24 thoughts on “Marine Commander Stuart Scheller on- Afghanistan Fail”

  1. I have a couple of problems with this.
    Of course he is right about accountability at the top.
    But there is a worrying trend of these guys in the military blurring the lines between political and military.
    He’s right, but the way to do these things is to resign and then you go public.
    Otherwise, what’s to stop the complete politicalisation of the military?


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  2. what’s to stop the complete politicalisation of the military?

    At the top- where it matters as always for the grunts- it’s completely politicised and worse- woke. If the strategic levels are not 100% zeroed in on Military strategy for their only hot war right now, then how can the tactical issues be right? This commander in the vid makes the point- wtf were they thinking? Well we know. We saw the CJoS a few weeks back very deeply involved and obviously concentrating on race issues and leftard political ideology at the Senate Hearings.

    This is the debacle that happens when wokism and leftardedness become the dominant issues in any organisation. Get woke, go broke – or in the Military, Get woke, get killed.


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  3. Otherwise, what’s to stop the complete politicalisation of the military?

    He didn’t really politicise it, he publicised it.
    That’ll still get you sacked, mind, but it’s a different thing.


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  4. At the top- where it matters as always for the grunts- it’s completely politicised and worse- woke.

    ..
    This conundrum is coming for all of us.
    When it got to the point that I couldn’t in good conscience teach the way they wanted me to, I resigned.
    After a decade plus of fighting it.
    That’s the reality of woke. It doesn’t stop, it is remorseless. Now I visit the old school to volunteer, and the things the paid staff have to do and say are even crazier. Once you get to the position of saying “My superiors need to resign”. Well, your position is untenable. You fight it from within as long as you can, but ultimately you are done once the situation compels you to go public.


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  5. Arky.

    You are playing by the old rules.
    That stopped when the orangutang bard was in office.

    Compare and contrast.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Vindman

    Retirement and post-military career
    On 2 July 2020, Senator Tammy Duckworth announced her intention to block Senate confirmation of over one thousand military promotions unless defense secretary Mark Esper provided written confirmation that the Trump administration would not block Vindman’s promotion to colonel. Less than a week later, Vindman announced through his lawyer that he would be retiring from the U.S. military. Vindman’s lawyer, David Pressman, described “a campaign of bullying, intimidation, and retaliation” by the Trump administration as the reason for his client’s retirement.

    In November 2020, Vindman joined the staff of the national security blog Lawfare with a fellowship of the Pritzker Military Foundation. Additionally, he is pursuing a Ph.D. in international affairs at Johns Hopkins University’s Paul H. Nitze School of Advanced International Studies, with an expected completion date in 2022. On August 1, 2020, Vindman authored an opinion piece in a Washington newspaper addressing his retirement.


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  6. thefrollickingmolesays:
    August 28, 2021 at 1:57 pm Edit
    Arky.

    You are playing by the old rules.

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    No.
    I’ve been forced to think long and hard about these things in a very personal way.
    If you stay in a failing institution in a mid level seniority like this bloke is, you WILL be forced to do a bunch of stuff you may well at some time in the future be culpable and accountable for.
    If the institution is corrupted beyond repair you have a responsibility to yourself and your family to GTFO. Then you have a responsibility once you are out to speak out about why the institution is failing.


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  7. Otherwise, what’s to stop the complete politicalisation of the military?

    In the modern armed forces, if you are the rank of Major or its equivalent and above it is highly likely that you have already sold your soul to the senior politicians in uniform who sold theirs long ago to politicians both in uniform and elected/appointed seats. Otherwise you wouldn’t have been selected for and promoted to that rank.

    I’m absolutely certain that a phone call from Biden’s office went out immediately after that video was posted directing that LtCol Scheller be fired… because that’s what politicians in uniform and out do when their deficiencies are exposed. When a nail sticks up, when an honourable person says “wait, that’s not right”, when someone says the Emperor has no clothes.

    And that’s exactly how you get a military where the Generals don’t have the balls to do what they know is right and take care of their troops, electing instead to toady up to the boss as they have learned to do in the modern system.

    The Marine Battalion Commander in the video is doing exactly what honour demands he do. He is being responsible TO his Marines. He is calling out his superiors for the lying, spineless sacks of shit that they are for putting their troops in needless danger just to meet a disgusting politician’s dream of a publicity show planned for 11 Sept to tell the world he ended the war on the anniversary of 911. Lest there be any doubt, that is EXACTLY what drove this disaster.

    LtCol Scheller’s brave and honourable example is precisely what its needed to combat the politicization of the military.


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  8. Female recruits in infantry should have been the trigger for a bunch of resignations.
    With senior and mid level resignees subsequently being very outspoken in public as to why they resigned.
    Everyone with even a peripheral understanding of training infantry soldiers knows the chick thing is hopeless.
    They’re all going along with something very stupid that is going to wreck infantry regiments.


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  9. Zatara

    Otherwise you wouldn’t have been selected for and promoted to that rank.

    Unless things have changed, promotion to MAJ (E) in the ADF was automatic by time in rank.


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  10. The revolutionary Marxists running the White House stole the November 3 election when Democratic Party state officials ballot-rigged the result in swing states. Those election cheats aren’t going to suddenly start caring about disastrous opinion polls or what the public thinks about the Afghanistan fiasco.

    Their mission is to destroy America before it can be saved in the next three years by ramming the Marxist agenda down the public’s throat and flooding the country with new Democratic Party voters. By 2024, it won’t matter which of their puppets is the US “president”.

    The Democratic Party is the most corrupt institution in the history of the USA. It will take a second civil war to overthrow it.


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  11. Boambee John – Good point. But I suspect an ADF Lieutenant or Captain known to be a vocal opponent of wimmin in the infantry for instance would still have somewhat dim advancement opportunities these days. The woke always seem to find a way.

    Thanks Mater. I appreciate having a spot to land after the mother ship ran aground.


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  12. I think LtCol Scheller knew he would be fired for this video. If he had posted this video as a civilian and not a serving Marine Officer it would not have had the same impact.

    He was using social media the way the left do, where it had the most impact and further was using the corrupt system to prove his point.


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  13. Zatarasays:
    August 28, 2021 at 4:45 pm
    Boambee John – Good point. But I suspect an ADF Lieutenant or Captain known to be a vocal opponent of wimmin in the infantry for instance would still have somewhat dim advancement opportunities these days. The woke always seem to find a way.

    The promotions would almost certainly continue as scheduled, if only to prevent any Redress of Grievance. The system would simply make sure that the target got the least attractive and career enhancing postings. I’m sure you could nominate a few.

    And regular removals, to annoy the spouse.


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  14. There’s something quite sobering about watching a battalion commander turn in his pips & crown, especially one who comes across as the quintessential All-American squared-away steely-eyed buzz-cut who speaks like he’s reading aloud from The Soldier’s Handbook … yet has reached the point where what is happening cannot be reconciled with the ethos the Corps has spent seventeen years drilling into him.

    West Point includes a module on exactly this situation, it doesn’t provide an answer or a course of action, it teaches that it may transpire that you may be presented with a Hobson’s choice, & that honourable action may result in your career being abruptly terminated with cause.
    However, in the Marines that may not ever have cropped up, for if the Corps had wanted him to have an opinion, he would have been issued with one.

    It seems he had one anyway. He’s exhibited publicly more backbone than any other US military officer of late.


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  15. There’s something quite sobering about watching a battalion commander turn in his pips & crown,

    Do they still cut off his buttons, and break his sword in half?


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  16. rank of Major or its equivalent and above
    No. It happens after LtCol when you no longer have intimate contact with troops under command. You are then looking at star rank and that has political overtones.


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  17. The military brass may regret firing Lieutenant Colonel Stuart Scheller

    The military’s decision to jettison Scheller may have been a mistake because, now that he’s free of the military’s constraints, he’s on the warpath—against the aging, incompetent baby boomers currently in charge
    ……..
    I foresee a grand post-military career for Scheller because he’s absolutely right. We have a sclerotic upper echelon of military brass who have bought into Critical Race Theory and gender madness to such an extent that they really can’t be bothered with winning wars and protecting their troops.

    Nor do any of them have the courage or moral decency to do with what Scheller did—put their career on the line to publicly break with a commander-in-chief who is no longer in his right mind and who ordered a retreat so bass-ackwards that only despair and death could follow.



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