Open Thread – Weekend 3 Sept 2021


The Course of Empire-Destruction, Thomas Cole, 1836

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Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 9, 2021 4:46 pm

It’s a very clever approach, using their tactics against them.
It’s an anti-discrimination social media site. How could you justify removing it?

Bwah ha ha ha ha.
I thought the same looking at the comments. How could anyone have a crack at them?
Openly stating their position and all customers enter in the full knowledge they may be rubbing shoulders with the great unwashed.
Watch the reaction though.
Sudden attention from licensing authorities and slug planting ‘elf officials.

Gab
Gab
September 9, 2021 4:48 pm

Thank you, Mater et al. xxx

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 9, 2021 4:48 pm

They consider risks and also believe they are legally liable if an unvaxed employee is allowed in the workplace and another employee is ”infected and dies”, however unlikely that may be.

The vax does not prevent transmission.
Next question.

rosie
rosie
September 9, 2021 4:49 pm

The AEC has just advised me I’ve moved back to my old electorate after just one federal election in my new one.
That explains letters from the other federal member which I haven’t bothered to open.
The AEC must be getting ready for something.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 9, 2021 4:49 pm

rosiesays:
September 9, 2021 at 4:31 pm

Im in 2 minds.

Every pollie should be followed 24/7 and any offence against laws they propagate should be punished with the maximum penalty automatically.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 9, 2021 4:49 pm

Gab, challenge their legal dept. on the grounds that it’s a clear violation of your human rights. If necessary, get a lawyer. I’m good for $50,000 for your legal costs. That’s 30 boxes of Romeo y Julietta Churchills, so I’m serious. I’d make it more, but I may be up for some legal costs of my own if things keep going in this direction.

a reader
a reader
September 9, 2021 4:49 pm

Fred Nile is onto the church religion debacle. I tacked on a question about that to my local member today. I think he’s pretty fecking terrible so I won’t be surprised if the Labor party loves it. I mean they love the full papers please scenario

Megan
Megan
September 9, 2021 4:50 pm

Screwed coming, and going. Perfect outcome for the Petit Hitlers throwing their weight around. Anti-discrimination legal action could be far more expensive in the long run.

Gab, take a look at the workplace laws around Constructive Dismissal. From my own, not very recent admittedly, you are a clear cut case.

Sorry you are having to face this, have courage and trust in what is right for you and your conscience.

Gab
Gab
September 9, 2021 4:50 pm

Yeah, Megan, I know but in that case the employer can demonstrate they have done everything possible to ensure the safety of their employees because they have a Covid. Safe. Plan.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 9, 2021 4:51 pm

WA state budget: Mark McGowan says $5.6bn surplus vindicates tough borders

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Western Australia’s record-breaking $5.6 billion operating surplus has reinforced the importance of the state’s tough border approach, WA premier Mark McGowan says, as he braces for a fresh fight with the rest of the country over WA’s burgeoning share of the GST.

Mr McGowan, who appointed himself treasurer after his government was emphatically re-elected earlier this year, unveiled on Thursday the biggest operating surplus in the state’s history after an $11.3 billion royalty windfall from the iron ore industry.

While the budget follows the Federal government’s lead in modelling a reopening of international borders by September next year – which Mr McGowan warned would have a “dramatic” negative impact on the Australian economy – there are no provisions for an easing in domestic restrictions.

The closure of WA’s border to the likes of infected states NSW and Victoria, he said, had a negligible impact on WA’s economy.

“The real impact is if we have an outbreak. The budget says throughout it that avoiding an outbreak is the most important thing we can do,” Mr McGowan said.

Prime Minister Scott Morrison says Western Australia Premier Mark McGowan is “underselling” the people of his state by estimating they won’t reach vaccination targets until next year. “I think he’s underselling Western Australians – what I mean by that is – I think they’ll get vaccinated sooner than More

He said the financial strength of WA was supporting the parts of the country grappling with the impact of Covid-19.

“Look at NSW and Victoria, it’s terrible in a health sense and it’s terrible in an economic sense. I want us to avoid that and so far we have,” he said.

“While they don’t understand that and they don’t appreciate it, everything that’s happening in our state – with no lockdowns and everything open – is driving the nation and supporting them all financially and economically.”

But WA’s strong financial position is also being bolstered by an ever-increasing share of GST revenues.

WA is guaranteed to keep at least 70c of every dollar of GST it raises under the deal struck in 2018 between the McGowan and Turnbull governments. The floor is worth billions a year to WA, and will add more than $4 billion in extra funding to the state in 2023-24 when its share of GST revenues would have fallen to just 10c in the dollar under the old system.

While Prime Minister Scott Morrison has already ruled out any changes to the GST formula, Mr McGowan said he was ready for other states to try to grab back some of WA’s share.

A review of the amended GST system is currently slated for 2025, but other states have begun agitating for the process to be brought forward.

Mater
September 9, 2021 4:52 pm

Ok Gab,
Time to pull out the big guns.
1. You have the Safe Work Australia Documents which put paid to their main issue.
2. Your contract was signed before these requirements existed.
3. Workplaces are required to make ‘reasonable adjustments’ to cater to changed individual circumstances (I’ve had to jump through many hoops because of this particular one). Surely they will consider your changed mental state brought on by lockdowns? 😉

Don’t get an attack of the guilts. They are being unreasonable, and pushing well in advance of official government policy.

Megan
Megan
September 9, 2021 4:53 pm

If they expressly insist you resign, it is Constructive Dismissal. Resist until they put in writing that you must resign. And look for a good legal group that will work on class actions on a no win, no fee basis.

They have to be out there. The legal fraternity will never ignore a potentially lucrative payday even if they have to wait a while to get it.

Gab
Gab
September 9, 2021 4:54 pm

Thanks, Mater. I’m keeping all suggestions on here to refer to in the near future. Even the one by Frollick 🙂

JC
JC
September 9, 2021 4:54 pm

This is great.

Kellyanne Conway was appointed to a military board by Trump and Dementia’s Gofer ( obviously not Dementia himself) as asked her to resign.

The answer is no, she not, but he should.

I’m not resigning, but you should.

miltonf
miltonf
September 9, 2021 4:54 pm

It’s pretty obvious that the political class and the pubes who pull the strings along with the meja have been fully on board with this sell out to foreign influences since the 70s. These political and canbra parasites must know a lot more than they let on.

Mater
September 9, 2021 4:55 pm

The vax does not prevent transmission.
Next question.

And the Safe Work Australia website actually states that. It couldn’t be clearer.

JC
JC
September 9, 2021 4:55 pm

she’s.

Gab
Gab
September 9, 2021 4:56 pm

Oh hell, I only started in June this year and I’m on 6 months probation during which time they can dismiss me without notice for any number of trumped-up reasons.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 9, 2021 4:57 pm

Kellyanne Conway is a gem.
She needs to get rid of her fat husband & cut off her daughter financially.

Mater
September 9, 2021 4:57 pm

Oh hell, I only started in June this year and I’m on 6 months probation during which time they can dismiss me without notice for any number of trumped-up reasons.

Yeah, that one’s harder to get around, but not impossible.
Make them work for their trumped-up reasons. Make sure they can justify them.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 9, 2021 4:59 pm

The police “respond” to a noise complaint concerning Richard Pusey.
In the middle of the day?
Look what happens when incompetent cops do a traffic stop in a stupid place.

miltonf
miltonf
September 9, 2021 5:00 pm

How to shut down our economy- economic ‘rationalism’, tariff cuts, make energy expensive and unreliable, berate the demos about the environment. If that still isn’t working, imprison the citizenry in their homes.

Gab
Gab
September 9, 2021 5:01 pm

The vax does not prevent transmission.
Next question.

And the Safe Work Australia website actually states that. It couldn’t be clearer.

True, however, it will be said that the risks of transmission are minimised by employing only vaxed and it has been said elsewhere and by my doctor too, that people who get covid from a vaxed person will only experience mild symptoms.

yeah, I know, I could blow that apart too but it comes down to a company minimising risks.

calli
calli
September 9, 2021 5:04 pm

people who get covid from a vaxed person will only experience mild symptoms.

That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

More Science Facts.

Mater
September 9, 2021 5:07 pm

and it has been said elsewhere and by my doctor too, that people who get covid from a vaxed person will only experience mild symptoms.

Not having a go at you, Gab, but I find this line of argument particularly egregious. It’s them trying to control your personal health, rather than your safety.

If this holds, when will employers be allowed to demand female employees have double mastectomies in order to eliminate the chance of breast cancer…for their own good.

It’s ridiculous and dangerous and not at all like demanding you wear a hard hat and goggles.

JMH
JMH
September 9, 2021 5:11 pm

Mater – or any Cats who know whether there is legal precedent establishing a declaration of a State of Emergency overrides Human Rights Charters active in various States.

Looking at the Victorian Charter of Human Rights & Responsibilities Act 2006, Section 10 states: Section 10 of the Charter of Human Rights and Responsibilities (the Charter) protects Victorians from torture and any treatment or punishment that is cruel, inhuman or degrading. The Charter applies to public authorities in Victoria, such as state and local government departments and agencies, and people delivering services on behalf of government.

Then we have: (under Section 10) this: Compulsory medical treatment – Kracke v Mental Health Review Board [2009] VCAT 646 (23 April 2009)
In this case, Mr Kracke was subject to compulsory medical treatment prescribed by his psychiatrist. The Medical Health Review Board was required to review the psychiatrist’s authorisation within a certain time period, but failed to do so. Mr Kracke argued that, without this review, the orders became invalid and his treatment was a breach of section 10 of the Charter, which specifically prohibits medical treatment without consent. VCAT found that because Mr Kracke was in medical need, the compulsory medical treatment was a reasonable limitation on Mr Kracke’s rights.

Here’s the link: https://www.humanrights.vic.gov.au/for-individuals/right-to-protection-from-torture-and-cruel-inhuman-or-degrading-treatment/

Legally, where are Victorians when it comes to “specifically” prohibiting medical treatment without consent ?

Rorschach
Rorschach
September 9, 2021 5:11 pm

it will be said that the risks of transmission are minimised by employing only vaxed

By whom? We all know that is crap! All the “science” says the viral loads are the same between Vaxxed and unVaxxed. And I have never heard that someone infected from a Vaxxed person will only experience mild symptoms. Also will be interesting to see where that comes from.

The most recent studies from US / UK and particularly Israel all contradict that.

And the only risk companies are interested in minimising are ones related to OH&S claims!

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 9, 2021 5:12 pm

Gab…

Tell them you cant have the jab because you are having a phantom pregnancy, which is your right as a man and a proud black Eskimo one as well.

By the time they have finished the venn diagram of what victim group trumps what you should be on your second year of maternity leave.

JC
JC
September 9, 2021 5:13 pm

Good for him.

My University Sacrificed Ideas for Ideology. So Today I Quit.
The more I spoke out against the illiberalism that has swallowed Portland State University, the more retaliation I faced.

Peter Boghossian

Peter Boghossian has taught philosophy at Portland State University for the past decade. In the letter below, sent this morning to the university’s provost, he explains why he is resigning.

And the letter;

Dear Provost Susan Jeffords,

??I’m writing to you today to resign as assistant professor of philosophy at Portland State University.

Over the last decade, it has been my privilege to teach at the university. My specialties are critical thinking, ethics and the Socratic method, and I teach classes like Science and Pseudoscience and The Philosophy of Education. But in addition to exploring classic philosophers and traditional texts, I’ve invited a wide range of guest lecturers to address my classes, from Flat-Earthers to Christian apologists to global climate skeptics to Occupy Wall Street advocates. I’m proud of my work.

I invited those speakers not because I agreed with their worldviews, but primarily because I didn’t. From those messy and difficult conversations, I’ve seen the best of what our students can achieve: questioning beliefs while respecting believers; staying even-tempered in challenging circumstances; and even changing their minds

https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/my-university-sacrificed-ideas-for

Mater
September 9, 2021 5:16 pm

Legally, where are Victorians when it comes to “specifically” prohibiting medical treatment without consent ?

I don’t know, JMH. Everything we used to take for granted appears to be overridden by this ‘proportional/reasonable response’.

It’s like waking up and finding you’re still in that bad dream.

Arky
September 9, 2021 5:21 pm

Boxing bag purchased!
45 second Arky vid on buying “Made in Australia”:
https://rumble.com/vm9mz5-made-in-australia.html

Baba
Baba
September 9, 2021 5:23 pm

When the vaxxed have to get a booster to keep their health passport operative it will be the fault of the unvaxxed. Sure as eggs.

Dot
Dot
September 9, 2021 5:23 pm

Triple H had a heart attack.
Who said steroids were good for you.

So he’s Quadruple Bypass H now?

Dot
Dot
September 9, 2021 5:24 pm

Over the last decade, it has been my privilege to teach at the university. My specialties are critical thinking, ethics and the Socratic method, and I teach classes like Science and Pseudoscience and The Philosophy of Education. But in addition to exploring classic philosophers and traditional texts, I’ve invited a wide range of guest lecturers to address my classes, from Flat-Earthers to Christian apologists to global climate skeptics to Occupy Wall Street advocates. I’m proud of my work.

I invited those speakers not because I agreed with their worldviews, but primarily because I didn’t. From those messy and difficult conversations, I’ve seen the best of what our students can achieve: questioning beliefs while respecting believers; staying even-tempered in challenging circumstances; and even changing their minds

Dissent is beautiful. (Free speech is sacred).

calli
calli
September 9, 2021 5:25 pm

Excellent, Arky! Is Dan neatly packed inside it?

I thought I heard a yelp.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 9, 2021 5:26 pm

Bari Weiss getting red pilled relentlessly. It’ll be interesting if she reaches the logical destination, that Trump has been right about everything.

Gab
Gab
September 9, 2021 5:26 pm

Frollick, you very funny man1 I like how your brain operates 😀

Delta A
Delta A
September 9, 2021 5:26 pm

Make them work for their trumped-up reasons. Make sure they can justify them.

Mater, your advice is, as always, very sound. However, even if Gab pushed her rights and ‘beat them’, her working environment could become quite unpleasant.

Sadly, this is something that is overlooked when people urge resistance: a workplace is more than the job. It’s a complex community of bosses and colleagues, all of whom have great bearing on one’s job satisfaction.

Having said that, there’s much to be said for beating the ba****ds into the ground 🙂

cohenite
September 9, 2021 5:27 pm

Good episode of The Five in which they discuss something I posted about, about 10 years ago; which is the left are incapable of understanding what a threat islam is because they hate the West so much any enemy of the West such as islam must be their friend. It explains why the zombie biden and his scum-bag admin cannot describe the talifucks as the enemy; they can’t because in their eyes the West and it’s supporters are the enemy and therefore the talifucks and islam generally cannot be the enemy.

Interesting that the new talifucks government (FMD) has 4 of the 5 shits obuma released in exchange for Bergdahl, the deserter, and no women or trans members. Which is what the biden shitheads are most concerned with.

JMH
JMH
September 9, 2021 5:28 pm

Mater:

I don’t know, JMH. Everything we used to take for granted appears to be overridden by this ‘proportional/reasonable response’.

It’s like waking up and finding you’re still in that bad dream.

I will have no compunction in quoting Section 10 of the Victorian Charter in my arsenal when the curs front me with a loaded needle!

Arky
September 9, 2021 5:29 pm

Is Dan neatly packed inside it?

We can only visualise it in order to make her punches harder.
“Imagine it’s Dan”.

Dot
Dot
September 9, 2021 5:30 pm

Gab’s situation touches on disability law and workplace injury law. Not to mention the obvious contract/employment law and human rights law.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 9, 2021 5:32 pm

Suggestion for the link bar.

https://www.city-journal.org/

nearly always has a good read.

and
https://www.takimag.com/

Because taki always writes beautifully.

Dot
Dot
September 9, 2021 5:33 pm

tariff cuts

How are you gonna get rich off making people pay $5k for a TV when they’re imprisoned in their homes?

Sure, the government will get rich, but will most householders?

Mater
September 9, 2021 5:33 pm

Mater, your advice is, as always, very sound. However, even if Gab pushed her rights and ‘beat them’, her working environment could become quite unpleasant.

You’re right, Delta.
I’ve left unreasonable workplaces, despite being in the right, for that very reason. That said, you should always leave on your terms, not theirs, especially if you are in the right. Making a stand can achieve that, if done correctly, and for the right reasons.
As one door closes, another always opens.

Slim Cognito
Slim Cognito
September 9, 2021 5:33 pm

We all know about the recent Jewish celebrations copping a rap over the knuckles in Victoria. It appears that an effort was made to get an injunction to keep the various states and the federal government from stopping “in person” worship on the basis of Covid. That application was rejected.

For those interested in how the courts failed to protect religious rights, you can read the full decision at: austlii.edu.au
Search for the case name: Athavle v State of New South Wales [2021] FCA 1075 (3 September 2021)

There is little doubt that the courts are not going to help get us out of this mess.

BTW I note that NSW has allowed an exemption for Rosh Hashanah.

Megan
Megan
September 9, 2021 5:33 pm

Yeah, that one’s harder to get around, but not impossible.

Not so, 3 months probation is all that is permitted under Federal Workplace Law. If they want to go for six months they have to have extraordinary reasons, clearly set out in your contract, as to why the three month extension is necessary.

And if they pull the ‘you signed it, you’re stuck with it’ defence simply point out to them that anything they put in a contract has to comply with Workplace legislation and 6 months clearly does not. 5ey cannot contract out of their legal obligations.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 9, 2021 5:34 pm

45 second Arky vid on buying “Made in Australia”:

Your daughter is so cute, Arky. I’m glad to see you teaching her to box. Although I feel sorry for her future boyfriends.

Megan
Megan
September 9, 2021 5:34 pm

5ey = they. Curses!

Dot
Dot
September 9, 2021 5:35 pm

5ey know, Megan.

miltonf
miltonf
September 9, 2021 5:36 pm

I’d rather have a slightly more expensive TV made in Aus than unaffordable housing. Funny when I was growing up, everyone we knew seemed to be able to afford to change from B&W to colour.

Dot
Dot
September 9, 2021 5:38 pm

There is no way at all that tariffs make houses cheaper. Reducing tariffs generally only makes houses marginally more affordable too.

calli
calli
September 9, 2021 5:40 pm

Although I feel sorry for her future boyfriends.

Not at all. She’ll be attractive to the physically brave.

The best sort. Believe me.

Dot
Dot
September 9, 2021 5:43 pm

Arky

Jim Bradley? They were always good.

Anyway, good hip rotation, work on the guard and don’t lead with your noggin…and have one foot behind the other! Bend both knees a little…

miltonf
miltonf
September 9, 2021 5:43 pm

I never said tariffs made houses cheaper. I was referring to the era when we made TVs in Australia. The same era when people of modest means could buy houses in Sydney and Melbourne. What would be interesting is to consider how much money has been wasted on welfare migration and unreliable, expensive electricity (doesn’t even have to make a profit except of course for the shysters) compared to maintaining local auto and electronics industries.

Dot
Dot
September 9, 2021 5:44 pm

They’re all a waste of money and make you poorer.

miltonf
miltonf
September 9, 2021 5:45 pm

Interesting too to consider the intrusiveness of government compared to 40 years ago when governments ran banks and airlines.

Dot
Dot
September 9, 2021 5:45 pm

Interesting too to consider the intrusiveness of government compared to 40 years ago when governments ran banks and airlines.

I agree, but if they had today’s technology?

Remember, “Hawkie!” tried on the Australia Card.

Rorschach
Rorschach
September 9, 2021 5:47 pm

And if a vaxxed employee infects another workplace colleague who dies? What then?

This will be an interesting one for the future!

If you aren’t vaxxed but have no covid / symptoms … you can’t infect anyone. Not an issue.
If you aren’t vaxxed but have had COVID you have natural immunity … you can’t can’t get reinfected and so can’t infect anyone. [There have been very few lab confirmed reinfections WORLD WIDE! **] Not an issue.
If you aren’t vaxxed but HAVE COVID and symptoms … you are at home getting better and you can’t infect anyone.

If you aren’t vaxxed but HAVE COVID and NO symptoms … possibly a problem. [If you don’t have a snotty / runny nose and aren/t sneezing all over the place you probably have a low viral load and probably aren’t passing it on]

If you ARE vaxxed AND have COVID and No symptoms … DEFINITELY a problem. You most likely have a high viral load [see various studies of breakthrough yada yada] and you most DEFINITELY are passing it on.

Which of these scenarios is most dangerous?

** Including the massive doubling of cases in the last month, the reinfection tracker only has <100K "Suspected" reinfection cases world wide!

miltonf
miltonf
September 9, 2021 5:47 pm

It’s actually punitive taxation, expensive housing and expensive energy that has made me poorer compared to when I could buy a corolla made in Altona.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 9, 2021 5:48 pm

Not at all. She’ll be attractive to the physically brave.

The best sort. Believe me.

I believe you, Calli, but there aren’t many such males around. Count the mask-free.

calli
calli
September 9, 2021 5:54 pm

And if a vaxxed employee infects another workplace colleague who dies? What then?

When we get to that point, it will be Clintonesque.

At this stage, does it really matter?

No one (with any clout) will care.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 9, 2021 5:56 pm

A punch starts at the big toe.

It’s all about the transfer of weight. Life a golf swing, smooth = power.

miltonf
miltonf
September 9, 2021 5:56 pm

Remember, “Hawkie!” tried on the Australia Card.
I remember little filth all too well. I actually heard Garrett speak at uni against it. Little filth, the toilers’ ‘friend’, also caused the most horrendous unemployment with his tariff cuts and the recession they and the Canbra pubes caused. I also remember Tony Cole who was only ever a tax leach who stated it wasn’t necessary for Australia to have an auto industry. What did we get from our taxes that keeps Tony Cole in gracious style? At least Toyota at Altona actually gave us very good cars.

In 1968, Cole graduated with a Bachelor of Economics degree from the University of Sydney and joined the Department of the Treasury.[2][3]

From 1979 Cole spent two years as a senior World Bank official, saying these years were crucial in developing his views on economic policy.[4] Shortly after in 1983 Cole was appointed principal private secretary to Treasurer Paul Keating, working in the role until October 1985.[3][5]

He was appointed the thirteenth Secretary of the Department of the Treasury in 1991, remaining in the role until 1993 when he transferred to another role as Secretary of the Department of Health, Housing, Local Government and Community Services (later Department of Human Services and Health).[3][6] There was speculation at the time that Cole was removed as Treasury Secretary due to evidence he gave to a Senate inquiry into Victoria’s debt blowout, the Treasurer, John Dawkins, denied the suggestion, stating that his move was just a normal part of the re-establishment of administration following an election.[7]

Cole left the public service in 1994, aged 47.[3] When he left, John Taylor, the Commonwealth Auditor-General at the time, told media “it’s a tragedy that somebody of the standing and even future potential of Tony Cole should be lost to public service”.[8]

After leaving the public sector, Cole was a Senior Investment Consultant and Executive in the Commonwealth Superannuation Corporation’s investment consulting business for 17 years, including heading the business in the Asia Pacific region for more than five years.[2]

In 2013 and 2014, he was a member of the Abbott Government’s National Commission of Audit, which was established to improve the Australian government’s budget.[9]

JC
JC
September 9, 2021 5:58 pm

And if a vaxxed employee infects another workplace colleague who dies? What then?

This will be an interesting one for the future!

I’m sure there’s been a history log of that sort of thing happening. The issue would also be, how would you know you caught it off a/that work colleague?

miltonf
miltonf
September 9, 2021 5:58 pm

Max Newton called little filth a ‘bumptious little bastard’.

miltonf
miltonf
September 9, 2021 6:00 pm

“it’s a tragedy that somebody of the standing and even future potential of Tony Cole should be lost to public service”

These dickheads really live an another plane.

miltonf
miltonf
September 9, 2021 6:00 pm

These dickheads really live an another planet.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 9, 2021 6:01 pm

Taliban to Allow 200 Americans, Other Foreigners to Fly Out of Kabul

Afghanistan’s Taliban authorities are allowing some 200 Americans and other foreign citizens to leave the country on a flight to Qatar scheduled for Thursday, the first such departure by air since U.S. forces withdrew last month, Qatari and American officials said.

The Taliban loving this.

calli
calli
September 9, 2021 6:01 pm

Plane worked for me.

Two dimensions. Shallower than a micron.

Indolent
Indolent
September 9, 2021 6:04 pm

Ex-Google employee – Counterfeit Journalism

Absolutely terrifying.

miltonf
miltonf
September 9, 2021 6:04 pm

I seriously wouldn’t their pubic service/canbra antics if they didn’t do so much harm.

miltonf
miltonf
September 9, 2021 6:05 pm

Well wouldn’t mind so much. I have nothing but contempt for their PSMs and AOs.

Rorschach
Rorschach
September 9, 2021 6:05 pm
Indolent
Indolent
September 9, 2021 6:08 pm

I am under enormous pressure and coercion to take the jab or I have no job. I have no other means of income.

Delay and obfuscate

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 9, 2021 6:09 pm

When we walk in the park ‘social distancing’ from our son and little grandson we often stop at the Rotunda where various dangerous-looking personal trainers put individual clients through a session of beat the boxing paddles with your boxing gloves on. It’s quite a show, probably breaking all sorts of rules, but people have fun commenting on how the latest novice is going. Something, anything, to gawp at and make life interesting in these troubled times. Good to see you’re onto the boxing meme too, Arky. Now we can all gawp at home too, specifically at you. You are as good as some of the Rotunda guys, and Dot offers expert advice. 🙂

P
P
September 9, 2021 6:09 pm

Get the jab for the common good: a lawyer explains
by Patrick Parkinson – Professor at the TC Beirne School of Law, University of Queensland, and a former Dean of the School.
Sep 9, 2021

Employers may impose requirements that are reasonable

What about no jab, no pay policies that impact upon employment? If an employer says that a person needs to be vaccinated in order to work in a particular place or profession, that is not coercion in itself. The unvaccinated person has the (admittedly difficult) choice of finding another job or complying with the vaccine mandate. The employer’s requirement is likely to be upheld by the courts, so long as it is reasonable.

What is reasonable, when we are dealing with such a severe public health crisis as the emergence of the delta variant of Covid?

Consider for example, a recent experience in a large London professional services firm. An employee who had chosen not to be vaccinated for a rather trivial reason became infected with Covid. Because he had gone to work while infected, 20 staff with whom he came into contact had to self-isolate for 10 days, disrupting important work. Another colleague became infected as well. So the one unvaccinated employee imposed significant disruption upon the firm and its staff, as well as others in the community who were indirectly affected by his refusal to accept immunisation.

An employer who decides that the cost of employing the voluntarily unvaccinated is too high might well be making a reasonable decision in these circumstances. Similar issues arise for a restaurant owner or the proprietor of a cinema who has to be concerned for all his or her patrons. In circumstances where people have had the opportunity to receive a double dose of a vaccine declared by the regulators to be safe and approved for their age group, and do not have medical reasons for non-vaccination, how much cost should employers and business owners have to bear to accommodate the unvaccinated? The answer to this might depend upon what moral principles are at stake.

Franx
Franx
September 9, 2021 6:09 pm

Gab
Is testing an option to replace the jab?
After all, it’s not the jab but the test which will keep the virus out of the workplace. Sort of.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 9, 2021 6:12 pm

Mater, your advice is, as always, very sound. However, even if Gab pushed her rights and ‘beat them’, her working environment could become quite unpleasant.

Look, cross that bridge when you get to it.
I’ve seen several workplace disputes over the journey and, whilst things can be a little tense immediately afterwards, it usually dissipates.
Only idiots double down and tear the bandaid off a settled dispute.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 9, 2021 6:14 pm

I’m sure there’s been a history log of that sort of thing happening. The issue would also be, how would you know you caught it off a/that work colleague?

You wouldn’t. Unless it was a highly specific new variant that could be traced back. And even then, others you had been casually in contact with could have infected you on the train etc.

The whole thing of ‘workplace safety’ is bullshit. If it’s in the community it’s in the workplace. Either get it and survive or get it and die. Your chances of surviving are better if you are vaxxed. That’s all.

rugbyskier
rugbyskier
September 9, 2021 6:15 pm

The company’s stance is to uphold the law wrt health and safety as they – and all other organisations – are obliged by law to ensure the reasonable h&s of all employees. They consider risks and also believe they are legally liable if an unvaxed employee is allowed in the workplace and another employee is ”infected and dies”, however unlikely that may be.

Gab, it’s interesting that the company hasn’t considered the possible higher risk that a coerced employee has an adverse reaction to the vaccine, which could result in permanent incapacitation or death.

miltonf
miltonf
September 9, 2021 6:15 pm

Latho
How much does the NSW Govt hate small business: Closed them down for months then said to reopen, they must sack their unvaccinated staff, running unfair dismissal cases; plus put a Govt sign in their window like Mussolini’s Rome; operate as compliance cops for the Health Department, then turn away certain paying customers and if they fail to do this, the Government will fine the pants off them and send them broke.
Liberal Party ‘free enterprise’ just a massive con job.

Dot
Dot
September 9, 2021 6:16 pm

when we are dealing with such a severe public health crisis

We’re not.

Dot
Dot
September 9, 2021 6:17 pm

Another colleague became infected as well. So the one unvaccinated employee imposed significant disruption upon the firm and its staff, as well as others in the community who were indirectly affected by his refusal to accept immunisation.

No dickhead.

That was the government.

Dot
Dot
September 9, 2021 6:18 pm

An employer who decides that the cost of employing the voluntarily unvaccinated is too high might well be making a reasonable decision in these circumstances. Similar issues arise for a restaurant owner or the proprietor of a cinema who has to be concerned for all his or her patrons. In circumstances where people have had the opportunity to receive a double dose of a vaccine declared by the regulators to be safe and approved for their age group, and do not have medical reasons for non-vaccination, how much cost should employers and business owners have to bear to accommodate the unvaccinated? The answer to this might depend upon what moral principles are at stake.

Public toilets need herpes and hepatitis passports, stat!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 9, 2021 6:18 pm

Get the jab for the common good: a lawyer explains

Join the Nazi party for the common good.
It’s very Aryan.
I know. I lose. Godwin.
Back to book.
Refuge in fantasy beats reality.

C.L.
C.L.
September 9, 2021 6:19 pm

Consider for example, a recent experience in a large London professional services firm. An employee who had chosen not to be vaccinated for a rather trivial reason became infected with Covid. Because he had gone to work while infected, 20 staff with whom he came into contact had to self-isolate for 10 days, disrupting important work. Another colleague became infected as well. So the one unvaccinated employee imposed significant disruption upon the firm and its staff, as well as others in the community who were indirectly affected by his refusal to accept immunisation.

LOL. Some “immunisation.”

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 9, 2021 6:19 pm

Jim Bradley? They were always good.

Jim Bradley?
I had some exposure to Jim when he was a running coach.
Gnarly Scotsman.
The last of the hard-arse coaches but a genuine bloke.
He died a few years ago I think.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 9, 2021 6:21 pm

Gab, it’s interesting that the company hasn’t considered the possible higher risk that a coerced employee has an adverse reaction to the vaccine, which could result in permanent incapacitation or death

Something worth putting to them, if HSE is the real concern.

miltonf
miltonf
September 9, 2021 6:22 pm

So so many of our problems are due to ‘universities’ turning out armies of egg heads that hold practical skills in absolute contempt and, at the same time, believe they have special insights that regular citizen do not possess.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 9, 2021 6:23 pm

Get the Abortion for the common good: a lawyer explains
Get the Vasectomy for the common good: a lawyer explains.
Live in the pod for the common good: a lawyer explains
eat the bugs for the common good: a lawyer explains
Own nothing and be happy for the common good: a lawyer explains
Ask no questions of your betters for the common good: a lawyer explains

Id invite this learned mong to take a running jump head first up a rhinos ringpiece.

miltonf
miltonf
September 9, 2021 6:24 pm

I liked Des D’s comments re Uni of Canbra (formerly Canbra College of Advanced Ejucashun)- for offspring of pubes too dumb to go to Uni and too lazy and snobbish to learn a trade.

Dot
Dot
September 9, 2021 6:25 pm

A punch starts at the big toe.

It’s all about the transfer of weight. Life a golf swing, smooth = power.

Almost true. Hands should still go first. You’re first or you’re last, Ricky Bobby.

Here’s a short, fun documentary of a man who rose then fell…and why you want to be faster than the other guy.

Tex Cobb Documentary – Boxing’s Outlaw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkBhdBovUpE

Dot
Dot
September 9, 2021 6:26 pm

Patrick Parkinson

SHILL ALERT!

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 9, 2021 6:27 pm

Hahaha
Thanks Calli @ 05:04 for the chortle.

Roger
Roger
September 9, 2021 6:29 pm

So so many of our problems are due to ‘universities’ turning out armies of egg heads that hold practical skills in absolute contempt…

Until their toilet backs up.

The circuit breaker keeps tripping.

And the car refuses to start.

You’d think it would instil a bit of humility, eh?

Bar Beach Swimmer
September 9, 2021 6:32 pm

Dr Faustussays:
September 8, 2021 at 10:46 pm

Dr F., further down the SafeWorkAustralia page on vaccinations is this note

Workers, customers and vaccinations
Can I require customers and visitors to prove they have been vaccinated before entering my workplace?
It is unlikely that WHS laws require you to ask customers and visitors for proof of vaccination.

If you want customers and visitors to be vaccinated as a condition of entry to your premises you should seek advice before you take any action as there may be privacy and discrimination issues that apply

miltonf
miltonf
September 9, 2021 6:32 pm

Speaking of bullshit bludge courses, I read that Brogden has a Master of Public Affairs from Sydney Uni.

miltonf
miltonf
September 9, 2021 6:33 pm

Yes it would Roger.

Delta A
Delta A
September 9, 2021 6:39 pm

Sorry, Mole!

In my eagerness to ‘like’ your post at 6.23 pm I accidentally reported you.

Hope you’re not already chucked into the gulags.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 9, 2021 6:42 pm

OK, Delta.
I have reported you for frivolous reporting.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 9, 2021 6:45 pm

Almost true. Hands should still go first. You’re first or you’re last, Ricky Bobby.

You can snap a jab out with a hand. This is true. But you’ll never put someone down so hard they won’t get up doing it.

Examples: Both the Tyson and Tim Tszyu left rips, and the Marciano overhand right.

Shake and Bake.

JMH
JMH
September 9, 2021 6:55 pm

Why must I accept the tag of ‘criminal’ in my country of birth simply because I refuse to have a spurious experimental concoction injected into my body against my will?

I will NOT accept an Apartheid regime taking over this country.

Scomo NO. Not under any circumstances will I vote for nazis.

Cassie of Sydney
September 9, 2021 6:56 pm

“BTW I note that NSW has allowed an exemption for Rosh Hashanah.”

No synagogues were allowed to open. The blowing of the shofar was only permitted outside in parks and the communal organisations had to get special dispensation from the government to blow the shofar in a park. It is a commandment for every Jew to hear the shofar blown on the High Holidays…which are Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur. Yom Kippur is next week. I went a park here on Tuesday to hear a Rabbi blow the shofar.

Cassie of Sydney
September 9, 2021 6:57 pm

“In my eagerness to ‘like’ your post at 6.23 pm I accidentally reported you.”

I’ve done that too!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 9, 2021 7:00 pm

That’s it!
Youse are all reported!
And I’d do an angry face emoji if I could!

Delta A
Delta A
September 9, 2021 7:02 pm

🙁

miltonf
miltonf
September 9, 2021 7:03 pm

Quite the thugocracy is the USA now-

Hours after a shocking video went viral showing Republican gubernatorial candidate Larry Elder dodging an egg thrown by a far-left activist in a gorilla mask, the GOP front-runner announced on Twitter that he will not be stopped.

I look of the dirty old mafia princess and her relation Newsome, with their fine clothes and cosmetic surgery and fancy restaurants knowing that they have street thugs doing their bidding to to destroy good people.

Arky
September 9, 2021 7:03 pm

You can snap a jab out with a hand. This is true. But you’ll never put someone down so hard they won’t get up doing it.

..
Only because of head rotation, not because it delivers less power.
Up and down or back and forth movement of the punched head doesn’t impart the internal rotation of the brain inside the skull required to knockout as effectively.

miltonf
miltonf
September 9, 2021 7:05 pm

CALIFORNIA DEMS BET ON IDENTITY POLITICS TO SAVE NEWSOM Daniel Greenfield understands them

srr
srr
September 9, 2021 7:06 pm

You know they still run ads for Codral – “SOLDIER ON” –

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-qQhi5xzUI

How many people have died from the common flu in the decades they’ve been sending sick people out to mix & mingle?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 9, 2021 7:07 pm

Hours after a shocking video went viral showing Republican gubernatorial candidate Larry Elder dodging an egg thrown by a far-left activist in a gorilla mask, the GOP front-runner announced on Twitter that he will not be stopped.

Orange County was where they first piloted the steal. In 2018 mid terms.
He has zero chance, sadly.

miltonf
miltonf
September 9, 2021 7:11 pm

I wish you were wrong Bruce- democracy is dead. Calling Biden, Newsome and Pelosi filth is being too kind.

srr
srr
September 9, 2021 7:14 pm

How many people were told they’d get the sack if they didn’t take Codral’s, get back to work & “Soldier On”?

miltonf
miltonf
September 9, 2021 7:15 pm

So was piloting this massive assault on liberty in Australia for the UN was a spontaneous action by our pollimuppets or were they told to?

Roger
Roger
September 9, 2021 7:19 pm

Orange County was where they first piloted the steal. In 2018 mid terms.
He has zero chance, sadly.

CA will soon be on life support.

It’s losing businesses and population to other states at an accelerating rate* due to high taxation and other prog-left policies.

* A recent Stanford University report detailed the business losses, which have increased 150% in 20021. Probably much higher since small businesses don’t have to file paperwork when they exit the state.

Indolent
Indolent
September 9, 2021 7:21 pm

There are still things that can lift your spirits.

Malcolm Roberts in parliament today

Less then 5 minutes and he covers the full spectrum of freedom and the right to demonstrate. Truly uplifting.

miltonf
miltonf
September 9, 2021 7:22 pm

Yep I read that too Roger. Very very sad as Cali used to be rather wonderful. My view is silicon valley turned to shit when it went from hardware to software.

JMH
JMH
September 9, 2021 7:24 pm

So was piloting this massive assault on liberty in Australia for the UN was a spontaneous action by our pollimuppets or were they told to?

Try The Great Reset.

Winston Smith
September 9, 2021 7:24 pm

Gab:

WHO have predicted a ”marburg” virus will be the next virus and they already have ”scientists” working on a vaccine.

I drove through a little place called Marburg today.
Wound up the windows really tight, put the aircon of recirculate and wind tunnel.
Drove at 210 km/hr – no one breathed on me so I think I’ll be OK.

Gab
Gab
September 9, 2021 7:26 pm

An employee who had chosen not to be vaccinated for a rather trivial reason became infected with Covid. Because he had gone to work while infected, 20 staff with whom he came into contact had to self-isolate for 10 days

Really? So what’s the point of being vaccinated if there is a high likelihood you will be infected anyway? That’s some pointless vaccine.

Indolent
Indolent
September 9, 2021 7:27 pm

WHO have predicted a ”marburg” virus will be the next virus and they already have ”scientists” working on a vaccine.

Interesting that “scientists” are working on a cure for a virus that doesn’t exist yet. Slightly back to front, if you ask me. Obviously, another present they already have lined up for us with the “vaccine” all ready to go, as before.

miltonf
miltonf
September 9, 2021 7:31 pm

Sturgeon slag at it again..
The separatist, left-wing Scottish National Party (SNP) is calling for a second referendum on seceding from the British Union by the end of 2023, despite a senior national government minister ruling out such a vote before the 2024 General Election.

Is this to stymie Brexit?

Old bloke
Old bloke
September 9, 2021 7:32 pm

Gab says:
September 9, 2021 at 4:12 pm

I’m pretty much snookered.

Gab, another approach….

Tell your HR manager that if you get the jab, it will be under duress and not in accord with your informed consent. Therefore, should you suffer an adverse reaction to the jab, they are liable for damages and compensation.

Attach a copy of the government’s vaccine adverse events / deaths report.

Gab
Gab
September 9, 2021 7:32 pm

Sancho

Something worth putting to them,

That’s why i’ve bookmarked this page and saved it to my ”COVID Crap” folder (that’s no reflection on the many helpful comments from Cats). Some things suggested today I know but as usual in stressful situations things can easily be forgotten. Other suggestions, I hadn’t considered at all. There’s going to be one very long statement from me if/when push comes to shove.

Grateful to you all.

duncanm
duncanm
September 9, 2021 7:35 pm

So I just sat in on the town hall call with the local member and Scotty.

I didn’t get a chance to ask my question. Left a voicemail at the end.

I have come to the conclusion that most of the population are sheep. They are not concerned with the larger issues like civil liberties and freedoms. They’re down in the weeds. Forest for the trees.

When do I get to travel, why is my NBN slow, when can I get my booster (yes! that was a question. The fact the vaccines wear off was openly discussed).

Does no-one think when this nightmare will end? It’ll be mandatory shots every year for your entire life. Covid, flu, whatever else the drug companies can think of.

Oh… but the feds aren’t implementing a ‘vaccine passport’, no no. Probably can’t under the constituton. Whet ahty’re doing instead is setting up the digital infrastructure to allow the states to do the dirty work.

Where do I get off this crazy world? Is there a libertarian state in Eastern Europe I can claim asylum in. Maybe Belarus? I hear the girls are pretty.

miltonf
miltonf
September 9, 2021 7:35 pm

Try The Great Reset.

Looks like it. The little Hunt deadshit seem to be a WEF minion. Who else I wonder?

Roger
Roger
September 9, 2021 7:36 pm

So was piloting this massive assault on liberty in Australia for the UN was a spontaneous action by our pollimuppets or were they told to?

The pollies are just that – muppets desperately looking for whatever will give them an electoral advantage.

It’s the epidemiologists, cloaked with the white coat of “science”, and advising the CHOs which is where the critical problem is.

Epidemiology is a “science” that espouses collectivism and compulsion as fundamental philosophical principles. It’s only answer to addressing public health issues is to exert control over populations enforced by punitive law. As such it is incompatible with traditional Western, democratic values which accord citizens rights as rational actors who, if fully informed, will generally voluntarily support the common good (i.e. the attitude Sweden took). without the need for coercion.

In short, this is yet another front in the war with cultural Marxism.

Indolent
Indolent
September 9, 2021 7:36 pm
duncanm
duncanm
September 9, 2021 7:36 pm

WHO have predicted a ”marburg” virus will be the next virus and they already have ”scientists” working on a vaccine.

just add it to the mandatory shot list with boosters every twelve months.

Time to invest in vaccine shares.

Roger
Roger
September 9, 2021 7:38 pm

The separatist, left-wing Scottish National Party (SNP) is calling for a second referendum on seceding from the British Union by the end of 2023, despite a senior national government minister ruling out such a vote before the 2024 General Election.

Is this to stymie Brexit?

No; it’s because they entertain the delusion that the EU wants them in.

However, the EU knows that Scotland is not the next Denmark; it’s the next Greece.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 9, 2021 7:41 pm

WHO have predicted a ”marburg” virus will be the next virus and they already have ”scientists” working on a vaccine.

They sound awfully defensive.
Like someone who needs to demonstrate their essentiality.
Mr Tedious must be getting calls from Mr Xi.

Indolent
Indolent
September 9, 2021 7:41 pm

Epidemiology is a “science” that espouses collectivism and compulsion as fundamental philosophical principles. It’s only answer to addressing public health issues is to exert control over populations enforced by punitive law. As such it is incompatible with traditional Western, democratic values which accord citizens rights as rational actors who, if fully informed, will generally voluntarily support the common good (i.e. the attitude Sweden took). without the need for coercion.

This is exactly the issue addressed by Malcolm Roberts above.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 9, 2021 7:45 pm

However, the EU knows that Scotland is not the next Denmark; it’s the next Greece.

Exactly.
Scotland would be a total basket case economically without North Sea oil and gas.
And the EU hates fossil fuels.
Game, set and match.
Seeya, Jock.

miltonf
miltonf
September 9, 2021 7:45 pm

No; it’s because they entertain the delusion that the EU wants them in.

However, the EU knows that Scotland is not the next Denmark; it’s the next Greece.

Maybe I’m being unfair, I my view is that all the people with drive and initiative got out of Scotland over 100 years ago.

Roger
Roger
September 9, 2021 7:46 pm

This is exactly the issue addressed by Malcolm Roberts above.

Great minds!

🙂

But seriously, this is an issue we need to pursue vigorously in the public domain.

Winston Smith
September 9, 2021 7:46 pm

Feelthebern:

Met coal @ $US289/t
Thermal @ $US177.20/t

There is going to be such a crash when it goes tits up.
And it will be China who pulls the plug. They are just biding their time and want to see if they can hive W.A. off from Australia.
That’s my guess.

Dot
Dot
September 9, 2021 7:48 pm

Where do I get off this crazy world? Is there a libertarian state in Eastern Europe I can claim asylum in. Maybe Belarus? I hear the girls are pretty.

https://liberland.org/en/

YES SEINFELD, IT’S REAL AND IT’S SPECTACULAR!

Old bloke
Old bloke
September 9, 2021 7:49 pm

The separatist, left-wing Scottish National Party (SNP) is calling for a second referendum on seceding from the British Union by the end of 2023, despite a senior national government minister ruling out such a vote before the 2024 General Election.

They should extend the referendum to England, I think the Poms would like to kick the Scotts out of the Union.

Dot
Dot
September 9, 2021 7:50 pm

Is it too far to link epidemiology and eugenics?

Roger
Roger
September 9, 2021 7:52 pm

Maybe I’m being unfair, I my view is that all the people with drive and initiative got out of Scotland over 100 years ago.

As someone whose DNA is 50% Scottish – much of it via the USA – there’s a lot to be said for that view.

But we also need to remember that Scottish independence has already lost one referendum.

The SNP – established and built up on anti-English sentiment since the 1970s – will keep trying until it succeeds, and then claim an indisputable mandate. Dissenters will head south to warmer climes.

C.L.
C.L.
September 9, 2021 7:54 pm

Bolt is tonight championing the dignities of the non-vaccinated.
I can’t follow where he’s at any more.

Cassie of Sydney
September 9, 2021 7:55 pm

Avi doing great work….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72CZ9z15bH4

A bunch of Jews want to go to Synagogue. The Victorian government and the Melbourne police whipping up anti-Semitism

Roger
Roger
September 9, 2021 7:56 pm

Is it too far to link epidemiology and eugenics?

Not at all, I think.

Both are examples of ideologically influenced pseudo-sciences with a core of truth that has been exploited for inhumane purposes.

Dot
Dot
September 9, 2021 7:58 pm

But you’ll never put someone down so hard they won’t get up doing it.

I need a frowning emoji. No telegraphing. More frowning!

srr
srr
September 9, 2021 7:58 pm

Dotsays:
September 9, 2021 at 7:50 pm

Is it too far to link epidemiology and eugenics?

No.

Indolent
Indolent
September 9, 2021 7:59 pm

Bolt is tonight championing the dignities of the non-vaccinated.

Maybe he’s finally woken up to the reality of what he was supporting. Either that, or he’s getting clobbered by correspondence. I don’t bother to watch him or write to him any more.

duncanm
duncanm
September 9, 2021 7:59 pm

“Welcome to Scotland!”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCrIuT-1AiA

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 9, 2021 7:59 pm

Maybe I’m being unfair, I my view is that all the people with drive and initiative got out of Scotland over 100 years ago.

About 74 years ago in our case.
My Scots grandad did well here.
He was given a choice of Kenya, India or Australia, and chose well.
At least I think so.

miltonf
miltonf
September 9, 2021 7:59 pm

I find that whole anti English thing in Scotland moronic and nasty. Especially when you remember that that lowland Scotland is Anglo-Saxon anyway.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 9, 2021 8:01 pm

Bolt is tonight championing the dignities of the non-vaccinated.

Maybe he’s finally woken up to the reality of what he was supporting.

I expect he reads posh Çat and is reconsidering his position.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
September 9, 2021 8:01 pm

Kenneally!

https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-09/cph-kristina-keneally-safe-seat-switch-sparks-anger/100448790

Gray Connolly asks the most pertinent question. How can NSW Labor, which used to be the most formidable political machine in the country, think Nobody’s Girl has any appeal outside an ABC green room?

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
September 9, 2021 8:05 pm

Notice how the MSM have shied away from seeking comment from Kenneally on the convictions of Eddie Obeid and Ian (Sir Lunchalot) Macdonald? I wonder why?

Her answer, if pressed, is, I gather, ‘Oh poor little me! If only I’d known!’ Does she think we came down in the last shower?

Dot
Dot
September 9, 2021 8:06 pm

cohenite says:
September 9, 2021 at 5:28 pm
Good episode of The Five

Low energy.

Indolent
Indolent
September 9, 2021 8:06 pm
JC
JC
September 9, 2021 8:06 pm

Careful brucie, you’re going to trigger a topper alert.

Dot
Dot
September 9, 2021 8:07 pm

AUSTRALIA’S NATIONAL ACTION PLAN FOR HEALTH SECURITY2019-2023

Hello, Hell World!

srr
srr
September 9, 2021 8:08 pm

MELBOURNE
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Dot
Dot
September 9, 2021 8:09 pm

66 years ago, my grandfather had a choice of Walvis Bay or Australia.

I think he did well, considering no Australian understands West Country accents that are so thick, they may as well consider themselves Welsh.

Where’s my fire truck?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 9, 2021 8:10 pm

Obeid jr’s excuse for not fronting up to court this week seemed rather like Kim’s excuse for why the DPRK is in famine again. Squirrelly!

Dot
Dot
September 9, 2021 8:11 pm

Good news but the ABC brings up the crackpot argument to run interference against the three probably correct arguments.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-09/supreme-court-hears-covid-order-challenges/100445878

C.L.
C.L.
September 9, 2021 8:13 pm

Rita Panahi regular ‘conservative’ – some lady – saying she wants everybody on a Qantas flight to be accredited as doubly vaccinated for her “peace of mind.”

So she doesn’t believe the vaccines work.

Nobody in the commentariat does, apparently.

miltonf
miltonf
September 9, 2021 8:14 pm

Health Hazzard has let it slip tooDeadshit lieboral

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 9, 2021 8:14 pm

JC – My grandad was fairly central in Tube Alloys (I think he met Oppenheimer on a trip across the ditch around 1941), and other quite interesting stuff. After the war HRM Government wanted him elsewhere in the nicest possible way. He went.

Cassie of Sydney
September 9, 2021 8:17 pm

“Rita Panahi regular ‘conservative’ – some lady – saying she wants everybody on a Qantas flight to be accredited as doubly vaccinated for her “peace of mind.””

Is it Prue MacScreech?

Cassie of Sydney
September 9, 2021 8:18 pm

Andrew Blot interviewed John Howard tonight. I turned the volume down. Have no desire to listen to him.

miltonf
miltonf
September 9, 2021 8:19 pm

The 1996 to 2007 era hasn’t aged well.

Ellen of Tasmania
Ellen of Tasmania
September 9, 2021 8:20 pm
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 9, 2021 8:20 pm

Cassie of Sydneysays:

September 9, 2021 at 8:18 pm

Andrew Blot interviewed John Howard tonight. I turned the volume down. Have no desire to listen to him.

Don’t you mean “them”, not “him”.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 9, 2021 8:21 pm

The 1996 to 2007 era hasn’t aged well.

Seems like a golden age compared to this last decade.

Cassie of Sydney
September 9, 2021 8:23 pm

“Don’t you mean “them”, not “him”.”

Yes indeed.

I’m about to watch Rita the pumpkin eater. I do like her…she doesn’t annoy me like Blot or Credlin.

Cassie of Sydney
September 9, 2021 8:24 pm

People need to hit the streets and start to burn effigies.

miltonf
miltonf
September 9, 2021 8:25 pm

True Bruce

MatrixTransform
September 9, 2021 8:27 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 9, 2021 8:27 pm

Newest addition to the Clan born late this afternoon – I am a Great – Uncle yet again!

“Sliante to all on the Cat.

Wha’s there like us?

Damn few, and they’re all dead!”

MatrixTransform
September 9, 2021 8:28 pm

and they’re all dead!

I’m not dead

duncanm
duncanm
September 9, 2021 8:29 pm

My scots granddad dragged his family (wife + 2 kids) over to WA about 80 years ago. Spent his life running small timber mills in the SW forests. None of those little villages exist any more.

..

and does anyone know what on earth Nobody’s Girl is exploiting for her power in the ALP?

It continues to baffle me – but she must know of some enormous skeletons.

Dot
Dot
September 9, 2021 8:29 pm

The Armenian Dwarf, Kevin Chant, Fat Bruzzard, Gone Babbin’arillo, David Yelliot VC & Bar, Victor “I Had a Stroke” Dominello, Dom “Highest Taxing Treasurer Ever” Perrotet, Gravy Warboats APM…

Dot
Dot
September 9, 2021 8:30 pm

Effigies? I just wanted to make a live action latex puppet show with outdoor pyrotechnics.

miltonf
miltonf
September 9, 2021 8:32 pm

Berijicklian revealed her true colours after her abortion ambush. I always knew she was a photios wet but that deception was in a class of its own.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
September 9, 2021 8:32 pm

Don’t know if anyone posted this — but my thought was — she would say that wouldn’t she?

AstraZeneca co-creator Sarah Gilbert delivers chilling warning for unvaccinatedROBERT GOTTLIEBSEN
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Professor Sarah Gilbert says the Delta variant is “going to reach everybody who is not vaccinated”. P
4:24PM SEPTEMBER 9, 2021
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The co-creator of the AstraZeneca vaccine, Professor Sarah Gilbert, was in June given a standing ovation at Wimbledon for her contribution to the global fight against Covid-19.

But this week, on ABC TV’s 7.30, she personally delivered a chilling warning to Australians who remain unvaccinated when we reach the “80 per cent” target.

The Gilbert warning will also impact all employers, those who have been vaccinated, the hospital system and indeed the entire Australian community and its economy.

If Professor Gilbert is right then prepare for a world that Australia has never experienced before.

The Gilbert warning came in two sentences: “With the Delta variant, which is spreading so rapidly, it’s going to reach everybody who is not vaccinated.” I invite my readers to re-read that sentence and think of the implications before reading the next Gilbert alert.

It will “also reach those people who are vaccinated and even if they then get infected, they tend to have a much milder disease. They are protected against hospitalisation”.

All of us will come to our own conclusions about the implications of those two Gilbert sentences but here are mine:

?? While all the unvaccinated will be “reached” by the virus not all will be infected, but given the power of the Delta variant a great many will. The percentage of the population that are vulnerable is higher than 20 per cent because the “80 per cent target” does not include children aged under 16.

? There is no way our hospital systems could cope with the national disaster that looks likely to result from the Gilbert scenario.

? It’s true that the vast majority of vaccinated people will avoid hospitalisation if they catch the virus but they will still be very anxious to avoid it because often it is not a pleasant experience. Those without a vaccination certificate will be seen as walking time­bombs to be avoided by the vaccinated.

? A big proportion of the vaccinated majority will not enter work sites where unvaccinated co-employees have been allowed to enter. Those with medical reasons for non-vaccination may need to find jobs where they can work from home.

? Similarly, whether it be a supermarket, cafe, pub, bank, aircraft, public transport or sporting contests, cinemas and theatres, the vaccinated will require an assurance from those operating the premises or means of travel that when the vaccinated enter there will be no unvaccinated people present. The unvaccinated may need to spend much of their time at home. There will be protests.

? When the horror facing the unvaccinated becomes known and if the hospitals fail to cope, it will, of course, cause vaccination rates to rise to very high levels among those who can be vaccinated.

? Although the 80 per cent figure does not include children aged under 16, we are extending vaccinations to those aged over 12 and will almost certainly vaccinate 10-year olds and above. As I understand it the problem with vaccinating children at low age levels is that there has not been enough testing done. That becomes a very urgent priority, although it seems children who are infected have a much lower hospitalisation rate than adults.

? In Australia we are checking the results of easily undertaken saliva testing placed in inexpensive, small apparatuses to determine results. These tests can be undertaken in homes and establishments by anyone with a minimum of training, including parents and officials at event entrances, who are also checking for “bombs”. If these saliva and similar tests that give results in under 20 seconds prove successful, then a new way of living will open.

? The hospitalisation horrors that are likely in NSW and Victoria following the lowering of business restrictions will cause those states with low infection rates to reconsider opening their borders. That will almost certainly apply to Western Australia and Tasmania and probably Queensland. Certainly only the vaccinated will be allowed to enter those states and they may also be required to undertake regular quick testing.

A dose of the AstraZeneca vaccine being prepared for a patient. Picture: Getty Images
A dose of the AstraZeneca vaccine being prepared for a patient. Picture: Getty Images
I fully recognise that many of my readers will say the above scenarios go too far and I certainly hope they are right. But Professor Gilbert is one of the world’s leading Covid-19 vaccination researchers and the vaccine she developed is proving to be as good as its rivals in most areas, and in terms of long life, looks to be superior.

I don’t believe her warnings were simply to boost AstraZeneca vaccination rates, but rather to help prepare the Australian community for what could be ahead.

Prime Minister Scott Morrison and Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews may have different views on most issues but both have been very clear in delivering warnings to the unvaccinated that are not inconsistent with the above scenarios.

The general view among economists and the sharemarket is that we will see a quick rebound of the economy in the first quarter of 2022.

But that’s when the implied horrors of the Gilbert warning are likely to become most apparent, so the rebound might be slower than markets are anticipating.

Some regional areas of Australia are now achieving vaccination rates well above 90 per cent and Australia is going to need that rate of vaccination to return to some form of normality.

Footnote: I am fully vaccinated with AstraZeneca

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
September 9, 2021 8:32 pm

“Rita Panahi regular ‘conservative’ – some lady – saying she wants everybody on a Qantas flight to be accredited as doubly vaccinated for her “peace of mind.””

Is it Prue MacScreech?

Yes. On the other hand, she considers it despicable that the inmates of the locked up apartment complex are having their deliveries and parcels inspected and alcohol consumption monitored – a Health Department prerogative apparently.

shatterzzz
September 9, 2021 8:32 pm

I find that whole anti English thing in Scotland moronic and nasty. Especially when you remember that that lowland Scotland is Anglo-Saxon anyway.
Born on the English side of the border I’ve lived in Oz for the last 55 years (1967) and still get bloody annoyed when people ask where in Scotland I’m from …… Geordie accent still going strong .. LOL!

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 9, 2021 8:32 pm

Congratulations Zulu.

However, your new grand nephew/niece will never be allowed to leave Sneakerstan.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 9, 2021 8:33 pm

Why burn effigies when you could set fire to the real thing?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 9, 2021 8:33 pm

NADT.

cohenite
September 9, 2021 8:34 pm

If you have travel at 80mph and you have to go 80 miles and you leave at 2 o’clock what time do you get there:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PqEZRD32s8

Dot
Dot
September 9, 2021 8:35 pm

? In Australia we are checking the results of easily undertaken saliva testing placed in inexpensive, small apparatuses to determine results. These tests can be undertaken in homes and establishments by anyone with a minimum of training, including parents and officials at event entrances, who are also checking for “bombs”. If these saliva and similar tests that give results in under 20 seconds prove successful, then a new way of living will open.

What a fuckin’ weirdo. Time to put her in the looney bin.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
September 9, 2021 8:36 pm

Is the Danish virus entirely different from the Australian one?

JC
JC
September 9, 2021 8:36 pm

Brucie

Did he meet M’s dad obviously after the war?

shatterzzz
September 9, 2021 8:37 pm

Don’t know if anyone posted this — but my thought was — she would say that wouldn’t she?
She isn’t gonna knock the product that’s making her very rich is she. …. LOL!
Statements from folk with a direct financial incentive tend to be a bit (Juliar-speak) HYPERBOWL

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 9, 2021 8:38 pm

However, your new grand nephew/niece will never be allowed to leave Sneakerstan.

Not even in disguise, with forged papers?

Dot
Dot
September 9, 2021 8:38 pm

I’m not sure if it is philosophically or morally wrong to disgorge the profits of corrupt politicians and their business partners.

When did the left suddenly become doe eyed and start fellating big pharma?

What a weird timeline.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 9, 2021 8:38 pm

AstraZeneca co-creator Sarah Gilbert delivers chilling warning for unvaccinated

The lady who “co-created” the AZ vaccine from a cell line derived from an aborted fetus?
She may be intelligent, but she surely isn’t wise.

Muddy
Muddy
September 9, 2021 8:39 pm

srr says:
September 9, 2021 at 8:08 pm

The Adventures of Danocchio – EP6 ‘Dannings Warehouse’

Hahaha! Very well done. Love it.
We need more of this. Much more.

Dot
Dot
September 9, 2021 8:42 pm

AstraZeneca co-creator Sarah Gilbert delivers chilling warning for unvaccinated

I want Roseanne Barr’s and John Goodman’s take on this.

miltonf
miltonf
September 9, 2021 8:44 pm

I thought AZ was to be avoided if you really have to have the frankenjab. That’s myocarditis one isn’t it? What a repulsive evil woman.

miltonf
miltonf
September 9, 2021 8:46 pm

Sorry clotting.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
September 9, 2021 8:47 pm

I thought AZ was to be avoided if you really have to have the frankenjab. That’s myocarditis one isn’t it? What a repulsive evil woman.

miltonf, I think that’s the Pfizer

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