Open Thread – Weekend 11 Sept 2021
1,563 responses to “Open Thread – Weekend 11 Sept 2021”
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Bruce in WA says:
September 12, 2021 at 9:34 am
Wow. The Victoriastan government certainly doesn’t like some of its constituents, does it?Victorian shooters to face 10 year gun bans for stepping out of line
The Andrews Government is making more bad changes to Victoria’s gun laws.
One of the traitors in the Vic Upper House is a rep from the Shooters and Fishers Pardee, and this may well be a threat by Talidan to secure his vote for a permanent extension of the emergency powers.
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Yet some people no doubt do get the flu at the doctor’s. That’s the nature of real life probability and risk. If you take a 1% risk to reduce another 50% risk to 25%, the 1% risk may still materialise.
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I think you’re missing something else.
You are assuming that for everyone at all times it is better to not get the flu than to get it.
Which is not true.
Let’s say one year you get the strain of the flu going around and the next year you are hospitalised for open heart surgery. You now have some updated immunity from getting the flu while recovering from having your chest cut open.
And who knows what other functions irregular infections with colds and flus have. For one, they might cause fevers that burn off other infections you don’t even know you have which as you age might become more serious.
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Bush compares Trump supporters to the scum who did 9/11: Salty, 7 minutes:
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No doubt broken bones and all the other sporting related injuries are also way down.
Ha, I suspect the opposite!
Clear to me that gulagged Aussies have embraced this thing called “exercise” with a new religious fervor.
The wobbly kids and adults on skateboards, bikes and other mechanical contrivances that I see on the previously empty shared path and local reserve suggest a large submerged iceberg of injuries hitherto uninstantiated. Instead of strained fingers from Playstations now I suspect numerous strained ankles from falling off new-things-with-wheels.
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He’s seen by the sheep as “keeping Western Australians safe from the dreaded virus.”
An attitude that can perhaps be explained by Western Australians being one of the most isolated populations on the planet, a fact that affords them the luxury of imagining they can be “kept safe” from the dreaded virus forever or until 95% of the population is vaccinated, whichever comes first?
Geography has always been a profound shaper of cultures.
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Ain’t multiculturalism just grand. From Rotherham on the Yarra:
Three men who seriously sexually violated an 11-year-old girl have been jailed, with one of them claiming he thought she was an adult.
Noor Hasan, Rahamutullah Rahamutullah, and Mohammed Nuramin were found guilty by a jury earlier this year of attacks on the young girl.
All three were convicted of the same charges, including sexual assault and sexual penetration of a child under 12 over separate attacks on the girl.
They were acquitted of sexual offences against her 12-year-old friend, but found guilty of giving both girls cannabis.
(AAP wire)
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You’d think Coke would have learned their lesson.
And staff in front line medical facilities rarely catch what their patients have. Occasionally there might be an outbreak of norovirus or similar but it’s usually a small minority and that’s where people share toilets and other high risk areas. People coughing, sneezing, spitting, bleeding on surfaces and people, contaminated PPE stuffed lazily in bins – rarely a case despite proof of high transfer. Things really do exist without research being needed to prove it. -
“Instead of strained fingers from Playstations now I suspect numerous strained ankles from falling off new-things-with-wheels.”
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Quite likely. The parks near Studley Park Bridge used to be very sparsely used. Now there are hordes of mountain bikers all day every day riding off near vertical cliffs for thrills. -
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bearesays:
September 11, 2021 at 10:57 pm
Chief Minister of the ACT disses the idea of a vaxx passport. It won’t be operable as it is too open to manipulation and fraud and it won’t work anyway, because the vaxxed can also transmit Covid.It’s a dead in the water idea, as anyone with any sense can see, so all kudos to him
Lizzie, I must say that I was both pleased and surprised by this announcement. But being a bit of a sceptic, I wondered then if there’s too many politicians and public servants in the place who don’t want their connections and activities traced.
Of course, the by-product is that all the residents of the ACT get to maintain their anonymity because of that concern. Though, I would argue that almost all of the residents of the ACT see themselves as the beneficiaries of Big Government.
And as far as the higher echelons of the state governments, I bet there’s going to be exemptions. How could Gladys’ movements and meetings be treated in the same way as the local tradie?
“Yes” for the plebs but “No” for us.
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I do wonder if we are going to see a ‘sicker” in general population of younger people from the lockdowns.
Quite apart from the obesity/lack of exercise/mental health/stress/fear factors there is another very important physical bodily function which may be atrophying or not doing what it should.
https://www.endocrineweb.com/endocrinology/overview-thymusIf this organ isnt being “taught” what its supposed to react too by everyday doses of pathogens what are the long term effects?
I suppose we will find out in 20 years when there will be a mystery “why are 30 year olds immune systems so shit”??
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Something that never comes up at the BAT FLU daily waffle even tho there are multitudes of ace reporters to ask the pertinent questions .. CRIME STATISTICS .. Why hasn’t crime gone thru the roof since 90% of plod are now working as BAT FLU surveillance operatives?
Shirley, you’d expect crime to be skyrocketing with very few plod assigned to keeping it in check yet no mention of higher figures coming thru ……
Which, of course leads to the obvious question .. If crime isn’t on the increase due to plod being elsewhere … WHAT WERE ALL THESE PLOD DOING BEFORE BAT FLU? -
On the Outsiders this morning, Rowan referred to Mark Latham noting the form to complete to keep immunisation status private. If a completed form has been submitted, Latham said that even a doctor may not access the information.
https://www.servicesaustralia.gov.au/organisations/health-professionals/forms/im017
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Nobel Prizes in the sciences never seemed to come up trumps.
Odd that. Although they do have some ability in chemistry, making white powdery stuff.
Anyway this topic gives me an excuse to say that the Ig Nobels are out!
Ig Nobel Prizes awarded for chewing gum research, upside-down rhino (10 Sep)
Sept. 10 (UPI) — The recipients of the 2021 Ig Nobel Prizes include researchers who experimented with upside-down rhinos, analyzed the bacteria in discarded gum and studied the ways cats communicate with humans.
The prizes, awarded by science magazine Annals of Improbable Research, were announced Thursday at the 31st annual Ig Nobel Prize ceremony.
The Biology Prize went to Swedish researcher Susanne Schotz, who analyzed the variations in cat vocalizations while communicating with humans.
The Ecology Prize was awarded to a team of Spanish and Iranian researchers who used genetic analysis to compare the different species of bacteria found on discarded chewing gum recovered from paved surfaces in various countries.
The Chemistry Prize went to a team of researchers from Germany, Britain, New Zealand, Greece, Cyprus and Austria who used chemical analysis to test whether bodily odors created by a movie theater audience could be used to track incidents of violence, sexuality, drug use and profanity in films.
The Economics Prize was presented to Pavlo Blavatskyy, who led a study that suggests the obesity of a country’s politicians can be used to indicate the level of corruption in the country.
Not sure that last one is accurate, given those unforgettable videos of Bill Shorten jogging. But the nicest thing about the Ig Nobels is a complete absence of anything to do with climate change. Which is obviously too holy for any silly projects to be done in.
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Boris the pig goes mad.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/sep/11/covid-jabs-for-12–to-15-year-olds-set-to-start-in-weeks
Plans for Covid vaccinations for 12- to 15-year-olds across the UK are to be announced by the government this week, with a mass inoculation programme beginning in schools within two weeks, the Observer has been told.New proposals for a Covid booster programme are also expected to be set out on Tuesday, but it is thought ministers may be backing away from plans for Covid passports in confined settings such as nightclubs amid opposition from some Tory MPs.
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For health reasons???
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Nope because of damage caused to education by the governments lockdown policies…
Last week, the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) said children would receive only marginal health benefits from a mass vaccination campaign but did not consider the potential benefits to children’s education. -
Chief Minister of the ACT disses the idea of a vaxx passport. It won’t be operable as it is too open to manipulation and fraud and it won’t work anyway, because the vaxxed can also transmit Covid.
The shame of it. Who would have thought the ACT would exhibit more sense than every other state government.
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I’m surprised that number is so small.
There’s about 1 million temporary residents , many of whom are likely disillusioned and itching to get back home.In 2020, approx. 600,000 temporary visa holders went home from Australia.
About 50/50 split between students & temporary workers.
This is why unit prices in some Sydney suburbs cratered 30% last year. -
I would have given that longer odds than Sweden coming to the fore as a bastion of liberty.
It is a bastion of liberty!
Swedish No-Go Zone Local Says Area Like ‘Wild West’ as Shootings Continue (11 Sep)
Well, sort of.
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What could possibly go wrong?
NASA is going to slam a spacecraft into an asteroid. Things might get chaotic.
Later this year, NASA will launch a mission to practice how we might deflect a future Earthbound asteroid. The Double Asteroid Redirection Test (DART) is targeted to launch as soon as November 24 (or as late as February 2022) and will take a year to reach its target: Dimorphos, a stadium-size asteroid that is orbiting a much larger asteroid called Didymos. -
Went for a walk down the street.
Half people masked, walking around like zombies. One masked, clearly having lost his mind, raging at the sky.
Walk into a shop (mask free). See! He’s awake! Mask free woman points at me. What these bastards have done to this country! Then regales me and the guy behind the counter with a story of a guy who hung himself from a freeway overpass and of a teen suicide pact involving 4…….
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Good news, Bern, is the James Webb telescope is due to launch on 18 Dec.
Really hope it goes well, as if it does the results will be amazing. -
dover0beach says:
September 12, 2021 at 11:46 amChief Minister of the ACT disses the idea of a vaxx passport. It won’t be operable as it is too open to manipulation and fraud and it won’t work anyway, because the vaxxed can also transmit Covid.
The shame of it. Who would have thought the ACT would exhibit more sense than every other state government.
Depend on it, the real reasons are otherwise.
The ACT has been a surveillance state to the max for the last several months, with requirements to check in to the few places people are permitted to go, restrictions on movement, most businesses closed, yada yada.
You can be sure the real reason is buried in the privileged status of senior public servants, academics and politicians somehow. The proposals must impinge on them in ways they are not prepared to tolerate.
Watch this space. The real reason(s) will emerge in due course.
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johanna
You can be sure the real reason is buried in the privileged status of senior public servants, academics and politicians somehow. The proposals must impinge on them in ways they are not prepared to tolerate.
There is an essential need for research grants and private meetings with citizens in Fyshwick or Mitchell?
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last time I looked Bruce Willis is too old to save the world.
Clint Eastwood isn’t though. He’s made a new western…21 years after Space Cowboys.
Amazing guy.CRY MACHO Trailer (2021)
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The Chemistry Prize went to a team of researchers from Germany, Britain, New Zealand, Greece, Cyprus and Austria who used chemical analysis to test whether bodily odors created by a movie theater audience could be used to track incidents of violence, sexuality, drug use and profanity in films.
Um…that is beyond pointless.
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Nope because of damage caused to education by the governments lockdown policies…
Maybe not…. I just saw the NAPLAN averages for the little blokes school. A 15% improvement on last year. Basically home schooling works given that most teachers are shit.
I can’t wait for this Home Schooled / Red Pilled generation to come of age.
(If I can get a couple of years of data it might be worth a post that shows how shit our educators are.)
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Clear to me that gulagged Aussies have embraced this thing called “exercise” with a new religious fervor.
In that era ..long gone .. pre-BAT FLU lockdowns .. I ride the same bike tracks I do now the difference being that back then i could count on one hand how many folk I’d see/pass in a week now it’s every 20 metres ….. Tho that it is down on the 1st lockdown .. then 100s took to the tracks walking & biking but after 6 weeks or so it dropped right off .. methinx, it dawned on many folk that exercise takes effort as the novelty wears off .. this time it increased again but not by a great deal lot more walking than riding .. the worn out lesson learnt! LOL! -
The tardiest tard in tardtown polishes the turdiest turd in turdtown to a high sheen….
Click on the link for the full impact of the tardation.
Be prepared for the image of Michael Moore simutaniously gargling both Bidens wrinkled gey sack and the curiously Bovidae scented sacks of the Taliban.“I’m still flabbergasted that he pulled this off with such grace and precision and safety. Everything that we’ve been told by the media, the mainstream media, by pundits who did nothing but spend weeks criticizing his exit from Afghanistan. I don’t get it,” Moore said while appearing on Hill.TV’s “Rising.”
Moore argued that the U.S. was able to successfully negotiate the evacuation of thousands of people from Afghanistan with the Taliban, an enemy that the U.S. has been fighting for 20 years.
“We did have loss of life with a random, vicious terrorist attack by ISIS. But whatever Biden negotiated, everybody kept their word. We left on the day we said we were going to leave, in fact we left the minute before that day, and the Taliban stood by and helped us leave,” added Moore.
That quote is only a fraction of the fellating in the filmclip.
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Nope because of damage caused to education by the governments lockdown policies…
One of my grandkids starts High School next year so it will be interesting/worrying to see what effect nearly 2 years of non professional schooling has had .. a very, very bright kid right up until they shut them out!
Both Mum & Dad working full time and siblings home as well so most of his home schooling via computer … he did go to school for awhile under the essential workers ruling but very early on said .. enuf, it’s only kid-sitting they are doing not proper lessons ….. -
What a great man is Clint Eastwood.
I think his only mistake was hooking up with Sondra Locke. Her character in “Play Misty For Me” turned up to be a bit close to real life I suspect.
Who can forget him addressing the empty chair Obummer at a Republican convention.
From Rowdy Yates to Dirty Harry and beyond as an actor his movies as director are legend, Unforgiven being my favourite.
Looking forward to Cry Macho – thanks for the heads up BoN. -
“New South Wales
Vaccination will be compulsory for more than half of NSW’s public sector workers. But not for our parliament”“Why would the vaccinated, like me, worry”
_______________________Because those forcing the experimental Jabs (that are not vaccines) on others, are given & taking other choices, such not being drugged at all.
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I most respectfully disagree with the upskilling part*.
At the start of hostilities, one thing we need to preserve is the integrity of the infantry units and immediately hiving off parts for a different role (unless the responsibility is within the parent organisations area of ops.) doesn’t help.Winston, the historical pattern of Counter-Insurgency operations has been to use conventional military forces as both sword (to disrupt the belligerents) AND shield (local protection). SF were and are used only in limited instances, and even then their capabilities were not always available. The reason all RAR Battalions now have a Reconaissance Platoon, is because the SASR could only perform so many recce and surveillance patrols at a time, and in 1966 CO 5RAR J.A. Warr found their information so useful that he did not like going without. So he fought for and created his own capability. And what grunt CO will willingly give up the Recce Platoon, the best trained and motivated troops in his Battalion nowadays?
This was the pattern that we followed using a Brigade in Vietnam, and what every last one of our Allies effectively did for 20 years in Afghanistan. Albeit often with Infantry Battalions they deemed higher-tier. For example, the UK made a point of frequently using the Parachute Regiment and Royal Marine Commandos in Helmand Province in Afghanistan, in addition to their other line units. The Commandos and Paras alike had dedicated small groups of men who were more skilful and trained in raiding and other near-SF tasks (e.g. Pathfinder Platoon) who could be used locally where SAS/SBS etc. were unavailable or kept in reserve for more high-value tasks at theatre-level.
The use of SASR and 2CDO and SOER on conventional infantry operations to hunt insurgent leaders and distract groups of bad folk from trying to beat up the main effort (and/or help the US DEA teams burn opium crops, etc.) in lieu of sending out Infantry subunits to do it like our Allies did, is ahistorical and runs counter to SOCOMD’s actual doctrine. It was done purely and simply because AusGov and Defence alike were acutely scared of casualties, and the perceived tantrum-throwing from the populace that they felt would result from large numbers of Australian infantrymen coming home dead. This fact has been repeatedly admitted by all sides in the last few years.
So, to take into account that Army only really sent Battalion groups into Afghanistan for 8 months at a time between 2008 and 2012-14, having a Raider/Ranger/Pathfinder company equivalent in each RAR Battalion would have allowed for a certain degree of disruption operations to be sustained as required, allowed the other Companies to perform their security and stabilisation tasks, and kept the individual SASR Squadron and 2CDO Company sent on each SOTG rotation ‘free’ for targeting specific individuals and theatre-level special operations tasks.
After all, you don’t need to use a Raider Company for raiding. They can still do all their usual offensive and defensive infantry tasks. It just gives the Battalion CO and his Brigade and Divisional commanders in turn more useful assets and tactical/strategic flexibility.
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Former Professor of Ethics Dr. Julie Ponesse provides essential lesson on courage and integrity.
Full link here:
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Cafe Bruce local entertainment keeps me sane in lockdown. Southern male magpie was going off just now, so I went out to see what he was so unhappy about. A channel bill cuckoo! Orbited in next-door’s tree by several of the Cafe noisy miners as well as the magpie. So I decided to have some exercise and commenced throwing sticks and rolled-up junk mail catalogues at it. It decamped to next tree in slight confusion, why don’t they like me?
My aim was terrible, but at last got a bunch of catalogues near enough to register, whereupon the cuckoo scarpered…and landed on the branch where the southern magpies have their nest.
That was fun! But not for the cuckoo, who was last seen heading rapidly north in a cloud of noisies with a magpie actually attached onto each wing. Ouch!
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Thanks Toad. He looks better, his eyes lit up when he saw that cake! Also, now he has a diagnosis, he has something to work towards. Mum is a great nurse.
So I’ll keep a discreet eye on them and help out as and when. The Beloved sneaks peeks in their fridge and pantry to make sure they have everything they need – naturally both are bulging with good, healthy stuff. As my daughter says, they are the youngest old people she knows. 🙂
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United Flight 93. These last moments are breathtaking.
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feelthebernsays:
September 12, 2021 at 9:35 amTo the deep state, the last two decades have been anything but wasted.
Just like from FDR onwards, the Cathedral hasn’t wasted a minute.Yep, and one of their greatest investments has been the ‘gift’ (fittingly, German for “poison”), of The World Wide WEB of Deception and seeding it with countless professional propagandists.
Some, like David Icke, pushing 12 foot alien lizard BS, in order to suck others into tin foil hat conspiracy theories.
Others to then brand the sane people digging into & exposing actual, global conspiracies, as ‘nutters like Davie Icke’, and so, dramatically slow the spread of understanding of what ‘Global Bastards Incorporated’ have for so long been up to. -
Yep, and one of their greatest investments has been the ‘gift’ (fittingly, German for “poison”), of The World Wide WEB of Deception and seeding it with countless professional propagandists.
So knowing all this, srr, why did you fall for it? And why do you continue to fall for it on a daily basis?
Could it be that, just like the rest of us, you have a preferred ‘flavour’ of propaganda and misinformation?
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Apropos of nothing, Possums, which have a lifespan of 15 years, can carry deadly diseases easily transmitted to humans, including Lyme disease, leptospirosis, rickettsia and mycobacteriosis, which can cause abscesses, fistulas, headaches, vomiting and renal failure.
Their faeces can carry the gut parasite cryptosporidium and their urine can cause breathing problems for asthmatics.
Possums were known to spread superbugs such as methicillin-resistant staphylococcus aureus, said an infectious diseases expert at Canberra Hospital, Peter Collignon. ”Allowing a wild animal, which scavenges far and wide, to contaminate gloves and surgical equipment is obviously a real problem.”
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Victoria – tyrannical one day, and tyrannical the next.
New laws for gun owners.
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Went out with a hedge fund dude this morning for a coffee and a walk in the park. He gets a economic update from a firm of consulting economists. Their prediction for the Victorian deficit this is is that it will hit $40 billion. The accumulated state debt will be around $130 billion.
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Winston Smithsays:
September 12, 2021 at 1:39 pm
Victoria – tyrannical one day, and tyrannical the next.
New laws for gun owners.
No right of appeal for 5 years, warrantless searches of your house/car whenever they feel like it.This mob are challenging the laws; check out the cow minister bringing in the laws:
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Covid19Crusher
@Covid19Crusher
There are many possible interpretations of the non-closing Covid mortality gap between Israel and Mexico, despite the full vaccination gap.My favourite: once you have vaccinated the 30% most at risk, there is no additional marginal Covid mortality benefit.
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Israel is roughly twice as fully vaccinated as Mexico (ca. 60% vs 30%).Why hasn’t the gap of Covid deaths per capita between the 2 nations increased since the beginning of the year then?
Hmm.
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Balrogs.
Pure evil.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLBd1Z4ktL8
As a young fella, I had nightmare after reading about Moria.
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Gab,
While you are here.
From The Australia Safety and Compensation Council, and posted on the Safe Work Australia website.WORK-RELATED INFECTIOUS AND PARASITIC DISEASES AUSTRALIA
“Work-related infectious disease
Work-related infectious disease is infectious disease that is caused or exacerbated by occupational factors.
Organisms capable of causing an infection in humans are ubiquitous in the environment. This is true for both the occupational and the non- occupational environment. Infections that may arise from workplace exposures, but that could just as easily arise from non-workplace exposures, would not usually be considered work-related infections. An example is the common cold. The likelihood of catching a cold increases with a person’s proximity to others, and so would be higher in a busy workplace than it would be if the person stayed at home on their own. However, this increased risk arises from interaction with work colleagues, rather than from some specific exposure related to work, and would be similarly increased if the person travels to or from work on public transport, or walks around the local shopping center.”Extra ammunition when the issue of OH&S and Workers Compensation is raised. RTWT.
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“What if Google is Wrong”.
Applying values statements to a valueless, manipulable algorithm (Which- Without any further nudging by its programmers- Is only going to produce results as accurate and precise as the searcher’s chosen parameters and keywords) was only the first people have got wrong about Goolag…
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