3,121 thoughts on “Open Thread- Mon 11 Oct 2021”

  1. Interesting article on authoritarianism and Covid over at American Thinker.

    Those that have a predilection towards authoritarianism invariably have a deep-seated conviction of infallibility combined with attendant hubris and pathological lying. These traits are ever-present in those that can justify any devious or unethical means to achieve their goal.

    Another timeline of lies, but still worth reading as reinforcement.


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  2. To say that I am sad and depressed about it is an understatement. Feeling so powerless is a new thing for me. I WILL hold a grudge against the people who have made it this way.

    That’s why I am not fussed that Gladys was brought down by ICAC. Since she used whatever it takes against us I don’t have a problem when it’s done to her. Live by the sword die by the sword.

    I bet a lot of the flowers piled around her electorate office have been sent there by photios and Turnbull to make it look like she was so loved. Gladys is lucky that those she ruined financially are nicer people than she is.


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  3. Aha.

    Snap, rickw. Anyway – discussion point:

    All Germans should be shot on sight, particularly those related to the Kaiser. Germany itself should be turned into a car park and given to South Sudan so they can do burnouts on Frederick the Great’s grave.

    Also, anyone banned from both hospitals and railway stations is an out and out lunatic who should be tied down and whipped by the crippled.


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  4. Sinc always axed this angry person using the ‘c’ word because the end result would have been the death of his site. This angry person has considerable form. We can expect the ‘J’ word to appear soon enough.


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  5. My situation is that living in Victoria I must be vaccinated to keep working. I am calling it Coerced Consent. Trust me, I will NEVER forgive or forget.

    Living alone and renting I have very little genuine “choice “ in the matter.


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  6. Damn. Astra-Zenica on the way out in Oz. Best of all of the vaxxes so far.
    Longer lasting protection and once over the blood clot hurdle very few problems with it.
    It also has a more traditional vector mode than the other two available here.
    And the third world would happily take any spare supplies.


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  7. Living alone and renting I have very little genuine “choice “ in the matter.

    I get it. We are really getting to the pointing end of the stick in Victoria now.


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  8. And, speaking of the ‘J’ word, just popped over to Sultan Knish’s. An interesting article on China going “green”.

    China’s green strategy depended on hydropower and the droughts have left it powerless. And its hydropower is anything but environmentally friendly. Mao used dams to revive the water empire strategy of the ancient emperors allowing the Communist regime to starve entire regions of the country and to undermine neighbors like India. The massive number of dams in China, a totalitarian program to enable mass murder, were environmentally devastating before being revamped as “green energy” hydropower. Green energy, as usual, has its roots in genocide.

    He talks about China’s coal imports from the US, apparently lignite coal. Although he doesn’t make the connection, punishing Australia by dropping imports has probably made their massive emissions even higher.

    Worth a look.


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  9. Go on unemployment then. The rules will be changed and your holiday will be short. You won’t believe how long it takes unemployed to get your fitness back when you are older. You put a massive amount of work in but it takes a long time for the payoff. So just accept that you need a sabbatical.

    I had 19 months and it was about a year of effort before I got fit again. Treat it as a blessing in disguise. There is a lot of bluff and bluster going on at the moment.

    But for the love of God man don’t be an idiot like Lizzy. Find out what is in the shot.


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  10. Ludicrous.

    Josh Frydenberg: There are ‘costs of inaction’ on climate change, Australia must be part of ‘collective effort’ (13 Oct)

    No Mr Frydenberg there are no costs of inaction because global warming currently isn’t occurring and hasn’t been occurring all this century thus far. For example the trends in Arctic and Antarctic sea ice has been increasing for a decade, the snow line hasn’t moved north or south, and extreme weather has if anything been less extreme.

    Only in the climate models do we see an increase, and they have about 10 times too high sensitivity to CO2. We also see an increase in some terrestrial temperature records, but that is due to undefendable adjustments and interpolation of missing data using climate models…in a neat snake-eating-tail self justification.

    Please stop destroying Australia for this myth. If you are a lemming the correct decision is not to be part of ‘a collective effort’ jumping over a cliff.


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  11. Living alone and renting I have very little genuine “choice’ in the matter.

    This is how all those sailors in Blackbeard’s time voluntarily walked the plank.

    As the man said, Ranga – never forget.


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  12. Given our electoral system, I don’t hold out much hope that Craig Kelly can hold Hughes however I hope to see it fall to Labor (can’t believe I’m saying that…but I am)..

    Scott Morrison has supported Melanie Gibbons’ bid to move into federal politics, although her successful preselection would force the Perrottet government into a fourth by-election.

    Long-serving NSW MP Melanie Gibbons’ bid to move into federal politics has been backed by Prime Minister Scott Morrison.

    Ms Gibbons announced on Wednesday she would resign from her Holsworthy Legislative Assembly state seat in the hopes of running for the Liberal Party in the federal seat of Hughes.

    Hughes is currently held by Craig Kelly, who quit the Liberal Party earlier this year and later joined billionaire Clive Palmer’s United Australia Party (UAP).

    Mr Kelly, who has been appointed UAP leader, has confirmed he will recontest his Hughes seat at the next federal election.

    Mr Morrison, whose own electorate of Cook neighbours Hughes, welcomed Ms Gibbons’ intention to represent the seat for the Liberal Party.

    “I have known Melanie Gibbons for many years and welcome her decision to put herself forward for selection as the Liberal Party’s candidate for Hughes at the next federal election,” he said.

    Mr Morrison said Ms Gibbons was a “passionate” local state Liberal member who had served her community for nearly two decades.

    “Her experience and perspective would be a welcome addition to my federal team and working together in neighbouring electorates in Southern Sydney,” he said.

    In a statement, Ms Gibbons said she had informed Premier Dominic Perrottet that she would be running to be the Liberal candidate in the electorate currently held by Craig Kelly.

    “Given the recent speculation in the media and the community about the likelihood of me running, now is the right time for me to make this announcement,” Ms Gibbons said in her statement.

    “I will continue to serve in my role as the State Member for Holsworthy until I am required to resign for the federal election, whenever that is called,” the statement reads.

    The move means the Perrottet government could face a fourth by-election if Ms Gibbons is successful in gaining preselection.

    Ms Gibbons however plans to stay on in state parliament if she fails to secure preselection for the federal seat of Hughes, thereby avoiding a by-election.

    A senior Liberal source on Wednesday was sceptical that Ms Gibbons had the numbers to win a contested ballot.

    Liberal sources believed Ms Gibbons would not have to quit state parliament if she was unsuccessful in seeking preselection, but acknowledged it would be politically difficult for her to remain as the Holsworthy MP while trying to secure a new job in federal politics.

    After Gladys Berejiklian announced she would quit as premier, The Daily Telegraph revealed that Liberal MPs were bracing for Ms Gibbons to announce she would seek preselection for Hughes. The Holsworthy MP played down the suggestion at the time.

    “That’s not on my radar, I do not want to cause a by-election,” Ms Gibbons said last week.

    Ms Gibbons holds Holsworthy with a margin of just 3.3 per cent. However an electoral redistribution has notionally doubled that margin to six per cent.

    The Coalition was already facing three by-elections, in Willoughby (being vacated by Ms Berejiklian), Monaro (with the resignation of John Barilaro), and Bega (held by the departing Andrew Constance).”


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  13. Concealed within the grounds of a mammoth Chinese combat training camp lies a replica of a major city’s landmarks and infrastructure.

    From above, it looks like any other functioning central business district, with major buildings dotting gridded streets near a huge highway interchange, just down from an international airport’s runway.

    It took China just two years to construct the mock city, which bears undeniable similarities to Taipei, the capital of Taiwan.

    Shortly after works were completed, a snippet of vision emerged showing the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) conducting a significant invasion drill.

    As smoke from exploding bombs filled the fake city streets, troops dropped from choppers in a field run towards the presidential headquarters as tanks descend and anti-aircraft missiles aim at the sky.


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  14. Of course Chai-nerr’s practicing on a mockup of Taipei.

    They’ve been saying they were going to do it for years. They’d be stupid not to be doing it.


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  15. So true BoN.
    Only in the climate models do we see an increase, and they have about 10 times too high sensitivity to CO2. We also see an increase in some terrestrial temperature records, but that is due to undefendable adjustments and interpolation of missing data using climate models…in a neat snake-eating-tail self justification.

    Ice cores, tree rings, coral and other tea leaf science.


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  16. I see China is no longer going to build coal fired power stations in the third world under belt and road

    The story has been around for a while, but may be being repeated because of the timing. I think it’s partly to give a green headline before the climapalooza in Glasgow, so that the Chinese can say “look, we’re green too” without it being too obviously hypocritical. They rather like the West committing economic suicide, so need to keep the Davos elites on track.

    Also there’s a simmering problem with Belt and Road countries not coughing up for all that shiny new infrastructure. China is finding out that lending money to Africa and the MENA is a risky thing to do, since without a gun to their heads they tend not to repay.


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  17. Oct 14, 2021
    Bill Whittle
    NBC reporter Kelli Stavast, while interviewing NASCAR driver Brandon Brown, gives decent conservatives a way to curse President Joe Biden in public without dropping the F-bomb. The meme explodes, spawns a cottage industry in t-shirts and the like. Bill Whittle explains why “Let’s Go, Brandon!” resonates so deeply.

    I wonder how popular Nelli Kelli is now with her fellow DemonRat activists with by-lines now?


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  18. There’s a term that emerging countries need to learn.
    Bio-mass.

    In the green washing world, it’s methane from garbage tips.
    In the real world it’s burning everything that will burn to spin them turbines.
    In Pakistan, it’s a concoction of used tyres & a newspaper with a secret sauce emulsifier that makes it burn hotter.


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  19. Why would China create demand for thermal coal in other nations when there are enough issues with supply for themselves.

    They may never have thought about second order impacts like this. Also, there’s a lot of coal in Africa that remains unexploited.


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  20. Doing some good I hope. Twenty-five comments from me and a few from dear Hairy (both of us under another subscription name since dumping then renewing our sub) now up on The Australian in the past two weeks, and all but one of them ‘accepted’. We will dump the sub again of course should this rate of acceptance of free speech change.

    The Australian’s official line of course has now gone deep green, right inside the Washington dinner party beltway, but on the comments they are clearly scared of losing more subscribers. When reworked a little, the substance of that rejected comment too was accepted. Most getting upticks, some in the 40’s or higher. Almost all have been on climate change and the current economic madness running through our polity regarding this chimera, sometimes pointing out that even the latest IPPC Report can hardly sustain the rage with any science, in contrast to the hysterical Policy Report attached to it.

    Comments are running 90% against the recent ‘enlightenment’ of Morrison and this paper.


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  21. In Pakistan, it’s a concoction of used tyres & a newspaper with a secret sauce emulsifier that makes it burn hotter.

    Imagine the stench of burning rubber day in day out.


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  22. CrazyOldRangasays:
    October 14, 2021 at 7:39 am
    My situation is that living in Victoria I must be vaccinated to keep working. I am calling it Coerced Consent. Trust me, I will NEVER forgive or forget.

    Living alone and renting I have very little genuine “choice “ in the matter.

    I feel your pain. Have you got a spare room? We could share the rent.


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  23. They may never have thought about second order impacts like this. Also, there’s a lot of coal in Africa that remains unexploited.

    lol, JC. They haven’t really come to grips yet even with first order impacts, like that of spitting the dummy on purchasing our world’s best quality black coal, and now having to let at least some of it in from Aussie coal transports previously refused permission to dock.

    Winter is coming in China and coal supplies are low. Watch the padded jackets grow.


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  24. it was about a year of effort before I got fit again

    That’s the anti-psychotics making you lazy. Getting fat was just a by-product.

    They do, however, make your insights regarding fractional reserves much more insightful, clearer, coherent and focused.

    And there is nothing quite like coherency, focus and clarity for improving one’s life, ‘Victor…’


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  25. ‘Worst cold ever’ sweeping the UK as expert shares what is to blame for surging cases

    Gore Effect! Perfect timing. It’s too much to hope the heating fails at the COP meeting but.


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  26. She warned this weekend that people who catch flu and Covid at the same time are twice as likely to die as those who only have Covid.

    She told Sky’s Trevor Philips on Sunday: ‘I think the important thing about this winter is, we are likely to see flu, for the first time in any real numbers, co-circulating with Covid. So the risks of catching both together still remain.

    ‘And if you do that, then early evidence suggests that you are twice as likely to die from having the two together than just having Covid alone.’

    Currently ‘flu is like Covid, an older person’s disease.

    But ‘flu has already shown its propensity to mutate to strike at the young and healthy.
    A major ‘flu pandemic has always been on the cards. Hopefully controllable.


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  27. Also perfect timing, although the COP attendees may regard this as a feature not a bug.

    UK energy crisis erupts as Ofgem confirms TWO more firms collapse – fears of soaring bills (13 Oct)

    Regulator Ofgem confirmed Pure Planet, in which BP holds a stake of about 24 percent and which has around 235,000 customers, as well as Colorado Energy with 15,000 customers, have exited the market. This now takes the number of firms to go bust since the beginning of this year to 14, displacing almost 2.4million customers. Since the start of last month alone, a total of 11 energy firms have collapsed.

    BP-backed Pure Planet, a 100 percent renewable energy supplier, ceased trading citing “increasing risk and large potential losses”, according to a statement from the firm’s co-founders.

    Ironic that green-as-grass BP is now finding that renewable energy is a total lemon. Schadenfreude!


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  28. Gore Effect! Perfect timing. It’s too much to hope the heating fails at the COP meeting but.

    It should be turned off. Give them a taste of the future they’re organising for the rest of us.


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  29. Build back betterCommie

    1. Covid-19 is ten times deadlier for the entirety of the American population than seasonal influenza and millions could die. The reality is for 90+% of the population Covid-19 is only marginally more dangerous than seasonal flu. To further panic the public, the fatalities attributed to Covid-19 were deliberately exaggerated by a factor of 10 to 1.

    2. In order to get the American people to acquiesce to an unprecedented and unnecessary quarantining of the healthy, the citizenry was assured that a two-week shutdown would slow down the virus and defeat it. In numerous places in the country, they are in week 78.

    3. Joe Biden declared that if a person is vaccinated, he or she will not be infected or die with the virus. Currently, the majority of those being infected and dying of Covid-19 are vaccinated.

    4. Immunity generated by the vaccine is far better than natural immunity from having previously contracted the virus. In fact, natural immunity provides 13x more immunity to Covid-19 than the vaccines.



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  30. “Russell, You Missed A RED FLAG!” Facebook’s Censorship PLANT?
    Russell Brand

    Certainly didn’t miss it. Gave facebook a pretext to launch more censorship. The whole thing didn’t smell right.


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  31. The Battle of Hastings occurred today, in 1066.

    The absolute apex of French military endeavours, with a slight blip at Austerlitz almost 800 years later.


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  32. Mass Psychosis & You
    This video explains why people you know seem to have lost their ability to reason or even be reasonable.
    Mass Hysteria, or psychosis is a very routine and well-documented part of human history. It also describes well our current circumstances.


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  33. Knuckle Draggersays:

    October 14, 2021 at 8:40 am

    The Battle of Hastings occurred today, in 1066.

    Really?
    I must have missed that.
    I don’t remember reading about it in the papers.


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  34. The Battle of Hastings occurred today, in 1066.

    AKA the embroiders’ slog. Women’s work.

    The original tapisserie is well worth a look.


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  35. Really?
    I must have missed that.
    I don’t remember reading about it in the papers.

    Now don’t tell me you also forgot to turn on the wireless to listen to that nice Mr. Menzies.


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  36. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bearesays:
    October 14, 2021 at 8:35 am
    Gore Effect! Perfect timing. It’s too much to hope the heating fails at the COP meeting but.

    It should be turned off. Give them a taste of the future they’re organising for the rest of us.

    That would be a good counter point to Hanse turning off the air con in Congress the night before he babbled on about Gerbil Worming in the summer of 1988 (?). Summer in DC without air con can be unpleasant.


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  37. Battle of Tours was even apexier.

    Well yes Bruce. But you see, Charles Martel was part of a Frankish tribe, which meant they were Germanic. And the Germanic tribes were directly descended from the Yamnya, which meant they were unstoppable and fathers to us all and all they wanted to was live peacefully before the imperialists conspired to take their souls and the Black Prince showed the way 600 years later and DON’T YOU SEE?

    Hang on. Wait. The nanowrigglers are kicking in.


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  38. There’s a term that emerging countries need to learn.
    Bio-mass.

    In the green washing world, it’s methane from garbage tips.
    In the real world it’s burning everything that will burn to spin them turbines.

    The cement guys (while we still have them) are pretty flexible about what keeps the fires burning.


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  39. Bezos wants to buy the Washington Football Team (the team formally known as the Redskins).
    ESPN (Disney) are driving a campaign to have the owners forced into a position where they are forced to sell.
    Similar to where the LA Clippers owner was forced to sell…to Steve Ballmer.
    There’s a crazy clause in all NBA & NFL franchise agreements where the organisation can force you to sell if you’re “deemed” to be a person of not good character, whatever the fuck that means.


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  40. The leaked emails that got rid of the coach this week are the first shot.
    Disney & Bezos ganging up on the Snyder family (another billionaire).
    He doesn’t stand a chance.


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  41. mh says:
    October 14, 2021 at 7:56 am
    Are the COVID Shots Working?
    Analysis by Dr. Joseph Mercola ? Fact Checked
    STORY AT-A-GLANCE
    ? A recent report details a SARS-CoV-2 Delta outbreak in an Israeli hospital where 238 out of 248 (96%) of the exposed patients and staff had been fully vaccinated with Pzer’s mRNA vaccine
    ? Of the 238 fully vaccinated individuals, 39 (16%) were infected, as were three of the 10 unvaccinated individuals who got exposed
    ? While all of the sickened staff recovered, five infected patients died and nine turned into severe or critical cases. All of the dead and severe/critical cases were fully vaccinated. Two unvaccinated patients that got infected only had mild illness

    ? This outbreak tells us that the COVID shots cannot create herd immunity. It also suggests vaccinated people may be more prone to serious and lethal infection than the unvaccinated
    ? Of 41,552 hospitalized patients in the U.S., 73% of the unvaccinated, 71% of the partially vaccinated and 72% of the fully vaccinated received a diagnosis of COVID-like illness (CLI) between January 1, 2021, and June 22, 2021


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  42. Waste to Energy is one of the longest running boondoggles. Always a few people happy to waste (no pun intended) their time. Usually local government rates getting torched.


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  43. (the team formally known as the Redskins)

    He can rename them the Amazons. Then have all his guys identify as girls to placate the qwerty and feminist lobbies.


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  44. Not at all Bear, small scale plants have been running successfully in a lot of places.
    Not a patch on coal or gas.
    But there’s some merit in them.


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  45. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bearesays:
    October 13, 2021 at 10:54 pm

    You have spent an entire thread deriding “idiot commenters”, “loonies” and people that you claim can’t read a basic scientific paper.
    It transpires that every single thing you’ve sneered at is explicable as a straightforward, correct analysis of the data as included in and used in the scientific paper in question.
    Every. Singe. One.
    And when the criticism that started it off was pointed out to the authors of that paper they accepted that it was valid.
    We’re left with you insisting that some “loonies” (as you called them) had confused two sets of data and got into a terrible muddle, but it turns out that the percentage they came up with is exactly what you get by a straightforward, correct analysis of the data as included in and used in the scientific paper in question, an amazing coincidence which has been left unexplained. We’re just meant to take your word for it that your sneer at the “loonies” is justified, somehow, despite their answer being a demonstrably correct analysis of the actual data in question. 104/(827-700)= .8189, to that many decimal places. Keep the change.
    If you don’t realise by now how ludicrously you’ve beclowned yourself you are beyond reasoning with. You’re the one who’s demanding we “move on”, and “leave it”. Well, now’s your chance to show you mean what you say.


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  46. Biomass works well in closed, small scale plants like piggeries and on a larger scale with sugar cane mills and the like. A distraction squirrel of the highest order.


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  47. The billionaire class loves sporting teams in the US.
    The tax benefits are similar to negative gearing in Oz.
    But in the US, you can run so much through the sports teams.
    They are better than your own NFP.
    With less regulation.


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  48. Lest we forget:

    Scott Morrison says a coronavirus vaccine would be ‘as mandatory as you can possibly make it’

    “We need the most extensive and comprehensive response to this to get Australia back to normal,” he said.

    “I’m advised we’ll need about a 95 per cent vaccination rate across the country.

    “That is the normal target range for when you’re having a vaccination program and we’ll be seeking to ensure that that is widely implemented.”

    Everything happening now was predicted and discussed on the old Cat in August 2020.

    Nostradamii.


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  49. On the pregnant women and the inoculation – it seems very simple to me. If women are told to avoid soft cheese, alcohol and smoking during pregnancy, especially the first trimester, it seems good sense to me to avoid taking an experimental drug.

    I have no handle at all on complex studies and percentages and the like, but sometimes the simple approach is best.

    “People who pride themselves on their “complexity” and deride others for being “simplistic” should realize that the truth is often not very complicated. What gets complex is evading the truth.”
    ? Thomas Sowell



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  50. Not at all Bear …But there’s some merit in them

    They are tiny. At best, useful to lower costs at a plant level where you generate a flammable waste stream. And in the spirt of truck v trains may require subsidies to be economic.


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  51. Hang on. Wait. The nanowrigglers are kicking in.

    I told you not to smell the farts.

    Digested gaseous aether is worse than Arrakis mélange. The absolute clarity it induces is appalling.

    Let the wrigglers snort their own farts and giggle like the intoxicated little shits they are.

    This is all your fault, Bird. My Nano-wrigglers were perfectly behaved engines of universal dominion, before you went off your nut about aether and the wrongness of Newtonian and Einsteinic physics. Look what you made them do!


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  52. Thanks, Faustus.

    And the next day he was sent a letter from three Sydney archbishops warning him about objections to AZ specifically. And he then proceeded to withhold any alternatives from those with objections as a punishment.

    He disgusts me.


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  53. Gabsays:
    October 13, 2021 at 9:53 pm
    Guys, petition to government – freedom of choice

    Done.

    Gab, you have done very well bringing these important petitions to our notice. Thank you.


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  54. The big timber mill hereabouts runs on waste, which is a lot different to pulping Siberia and Canada so the Euroweenies can pretend they’re cabron neutral.


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  55. “He disgusts me.”

    Generous Calli…..I think he is the most repugnant and despicable individual ever to become PM. I look forward to seeing the smirk wiped off his face by about 7.30 p.m. on election night 2022. It won’t be pretty but I’ll enjoy every moment of it.


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  56. Timothy Neilson says:
    October 14, 2021 at 9:12 am
    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bearesays:
    October 13, 2021 at 10:54 pm

    One has to admire the persistence you two have.

    For my $0.02..
    The fact that such a poorly written article made it into the New England Journal was the highlight for me
    Yet more (redundant) evidence of the plummeting standards in today’s medical journals.

    All termited by the best destructive ideology ever created by humans.


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  57. On the pregnant women and the inoculation – it seems very simple to me. If women are told to avoid soft cheese, alcohol and smoking during pregnancy, especially the first trimester, it seems good sense to me to avoid taking an experimental drug.

    That’s what I thought at first too, Calli. But then I had a look at the number of pregnant women in the third world who were dying of Covid along with their child in utero without help from even basic medical facilities, for pregnancy greatly enhances susceptibility to Covid infection in all who are pregnant no matter where they live, and I had second thoughts. Reading reports from medical staff in under-resourced clinics who nursed pregnant women dying of Covid was fairly gruelling too.

    I was glad a cohort study was being done (mainly on Hispanic women) and that after some corrective revision indications were that nothing perceptibly deleterious was happening.

    In a relatively Covid-free environment such as Australia has had to date I would have advised any pregnant rellie to think twice re the vaxx, especially in the first trimester. In a saturated Covid environment, the issue is nothing like as clear cut, especially now more time has elapsed for testing. I still don’t personally like any vaxx in pregnancy, but that may be just my gut reaction rather than soundly medically based.


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  58. I expect changes electricity prices will increasingly make WTE (Waste to Energy) projects economic. And trumpeted by The Ponds Institute

    If Mohammed will not go to the mountain, make the mountain so artificially expensive it looms over Mohammed.

    Makes perfect sense… [Eye-rolling emoji]


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  59. I expect changes electricity prices will increasingly make WTE (Waste to Energy) projects economic. And trumpeted by The Ponds Institute

    The apparently insoluble problems of using WTE in the non-dried-dung world are:

    1) The energy loss in evaporating water from the waste (even air- dried);

    2) The energy loss in achieving sufficiently high temperatures to combust the dioxins in the exhaust gas.

    People have buggered around with these issues for 40+ years.


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  60. It won’t be pretty but I’ll enjoy every moment of it.

    Yes it will. Worth a commission to Leak Jnr for a serious portrait capturing the moment.

    Out flew the web and floated wide;
    The mirror crack’d from side to side;
    “The curse is come upon me,” cried
    The PM of Shalott.



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  61. The fact that such a poorly written article made it into the New England Journal was the highlight for me
    Yet more (redundant) evidence of the plummeting standards in today’s medical journals.

    I very much agree, Gilas. Putting up that lack of clarity in reporting during my days studying and then working in epidemiological modes would have seen me given short shrift.

    However, it is only a cohort study and it is not trying to do anything too fancy, so I think given the urgency of the matter it was worth a preliminary report. That said, on the <20 weeks data, a key point of interest, how they managed to do what they did at first and not get picked up on it is, as I said in my review of the study yesterday, beyond me.


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  62. “He disgusts me.”

    Generous Calli…..I think he is the most repugnant and despicable individual ever to become PM.

    SloMo never coerced his wife into an abortion so he could take up a Rhodes scholarship.


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  63. Daily Mail – Peak stupidity, anyone?

    Now moccasins are racist! Minnetonka APOLOGIZES for making the traditional shoes for 75 YEARS because it is NOT a Native American-owned business

    Minnetonka issued a statement Monday saying it had made money off the back of its ‘appropriation’ of Native American culture
    CEO David Miller admitted his firm is not a Native-owned business, and promised to do more to support Indigenous communities in the future
    The company has also hired Adrienne Benjamin – a member of the tribe Mille Lacs Band of Ojibwe – as a reconciliation advisor
    Minnetonka timed the apology to coincide with Indigenous Peoples’ Day
    The move is the latest to tackle brands’ use of Native American culture with NFL team the Washington Redskins rebranding as the Washington Football Team



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  64. rosie says:
    October 14, 2021 at 9:55 am

    We can only hope, rosie.

    My nannawrigglers tell me that we are looking down the barrel at a collection of supposed “states” that will require “papers” for entry for the foreseeable.

    The federation as we knew it is finished. They are their own little fiefdoms now, ruled with varying degrees of authoritarianism. That won’t change in a hurry.


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  65. Not get picked up on it in peer review, I should have said there. Obviously the error was glaring and did get picked up after publication and corrected. I note that the NEJM Editorial spoke about it as though chewing on alum, trying to minimise the reputational damage. They knew it was a cock up.

    NEJM and The Lancet have both done very badly as peer reviewers of late.

    This wretched study also ‘went inclusive’, speaking of ‘pregnant persons’, I guess so they didn’t exclude in sampling the occasional preggers female-to-male trannie as well as for their main aim, to show how ‘woke’ they were. My view on that is that excluding any pregnant female-to-male trannie should be done automatically as the hormones taken to sustain that fantasy would contaminate any result from that woman and her pregnancy. Some would disagree of course, and say in that case one should exclude many other women taking lord-knows-what during pregnancy. As in all epidemiology, sampling is a minefield, but imho ‘woke’ terminology is not required re pregnancy: only women get pregnant. I’d hold the line on that at least.


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  66. SloMo never coerced his wife into an abortion so he could take up a Rhodes scholarship.

    The same Prime Minister, who was partial to Havana cigars, but it wouldn’t suit his image as “the little Aussie battler” to be photographed smoking one, so he banned the Press from photographing him smoking one?


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  67. Also, on the pregnancy/inoculation question. What happens in the third world is poles apart from the first world.

    For a woman in her first trimester in Aus to submit to an experimental inoculation while eschewing Camembert and Champagne is a measure of how deep the conditioning on Covid has become.

    Pregnant and more susceptible to complications? I have no doubt of it given the physiological changes pregnancy entails to both cardiovascular and the simple mechanics of breathing (could possibly be similar to the fatties who are also affected).


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  68. Perrottet needs to keep setting the pace, others will be forced to follow.
    Open regional borders, state borders, international borders.
    Melbourne lockdown is a farce, look at the stupid meaning case numbers and clearly most people have ‘the 17 year old in icu’ story figured.
    Once more, Dan.
    Why can 10,000 go to the Melbourne cup but children can’t go to school, or play netball, go to the zoo or get a swimming lesson?


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  69. not surprisingly social media is ‘being flooded with negative comments’ about this story. I blame the prolonged lockdown. All those weeks when people were allowed outside for an hour a day. Dan has a lot to answer for.

    And you’re not blaming the parents for allowing this poor kid to turn into a landwhale, which is why she almost died?

    The kid is obese..


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  70. They are all disgusting. Each in their own way.

    Like Tolstoy’s families. 😀

    On the tapestry, all those stallions would have had an obvious symbolic meaning. The marginalia is full of biblical and antiquity tales – the man and woman are Adam and Eve. Zero pretensions of modesty – it was a time when open defecation was rife and everyone except the extremely wealthy slept in the same room.

    On marginalia in general – some of the funniest and rudest stuff is in illuminated manuscripts. Those naughty monks in the scriptorium! How dare they!


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  71. Covid has undoubtedly caused a few people to take more of an interest in Australia’s (flawed) federation. Like a tax review, I doubt anything will change. Continue doing whatever you are doing.


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  72. The apparently insoluble problems of using WTE in the non-dried-dung world are

    Faustus – And (3) Nimbies flock in from as far away as Mars screeching Dioxin! Mercury! CO2!

    The whole recycling scam started because every time councils tried to build a rubbish incinerator in the eighties the proto-Greens caused such ululating hysteria that they had to cancel. Meanwhile landfills were filling up and the Greens were totally opposed to opening more of them. So they forced ratepayers to separate out the plastic and cardboard and whatnot, then shipped bales of it to China, where it was carefully burnt out of sight of the Greens. Amazing what subsidies can do. That worked very well until the Chinese decided they didn’t like being the world’s rubbish tip and banned the practice.

    So it’s amusing that WTE is starting to be mentioned all over again.


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  73. rosie says:
    October 14, 2021 at 10:03 am

    not surprisingly social media is ‘being flooded with negative comments’ about this story. I blame the prolonged lockdown. All those weeks when people were allowed outside for an hour a day. Dan has a lot to answer for.

    So it was someone else’s fault she or her mother can’t exercise some restraint and discipline over what gets ingested ?
    This is after a stay in hospital and being “at deaths door”, what size was she before hospital?! FMD

    Like I said on another thread, the propagandists are taking the piss.


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  74. “I’m advised we’ll need about a 95 per cent vaccination rate across the country.

    “That is the normal target range for when you’re having a vaccination program and we’ll be seeking to ensure that that is widely implemented.”

    So there you are.

    Goal posts officially moved again, “old and vulnerable” became 50%, became 60%, became 70%, became 80% now becomes 95%.

    A total endorsment of Victoria and NT’s extremist ‘mandate’ lunacy from PM muddle headed wombat.

    There are two things driving this: rivers of gold and promises of lifetime sinecures flowing into liberal party faceless men’s pockets from Pfizer, etc, and hubristic public health ‘advisors’ in Australia. Who are infamously smug to the rest of the world that we’re the Gold Standard(tm) on Health initiatives, especially vaccines. They love waltzing around explaining that Australia ‘achieves’ what nobody else can. The simply want to get to 95% to preen in front of the world what a bunch of goody two shoes faggots modern Australians are.


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  75. So it’s amusing that WTE is starting to be mentioned all over again.

    Burning rubbish has nothing, or at least very little, to do with recovering its energy. It’s about reducing the volume and recovering resources from the ash. It also means that separation into components is redundant.


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  76. I noted something interesting and little commented upon in that tapestry – there was an occasional dragon biting its tail. This is an image of the mythical Scandinavian World Dragon, who if if he lets go of his tail will bring on Ragnorok, the final battle for the end of the world and the doom of the gods. The Normans at this stage were still Norsemen as well as Christians and the old beliefs often died hard, being maintained still in symbols and folklore. I noticed the same dragon carved over a lintel in the little church at Penmon, a sacred island off Anglesey. And don’t get me started on the shiela-na-gogs in churches throughout Britain and Ireland – stick figure women consisting almost entirely of a huge open vulva. Often explained as ‘fertility symbols’ they are far more than that. I suggest they reflect the Quim, the source of life as found in the mythic Volva goddesses of Scandinavia, where men would look to find the answer to the mysteries of the universe and human existence. Like the old father god The Green Man, in ancient churches still.

    I have a freize copy of the Tapisserie, purchased at Bayeux. I must get it out to peruse the penises in better detail. Some of them were rather hard to see in that link, areff, and further research clearly must go on in the name of history and of science itself. 😀


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  77. This was the top comment under Zipster’s Red Pill Moment link. I think it’s worth reading.

    Mis-tur Tay-bur
    Mis-tur Tay-bur
    2 days ago
    Greetings from the thin edge of the New World wedge, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Those of you who think Australians are doing nothing are mistaken. They are using every means possible to fight the terrible totalitarianism descending upon them, and the world, like a suffocating blanket. But Australia has been engineered to perfection. The means of repression in Australia on every level – political, social, psychological, spiritual – have been refined and practiced to levels you might be yet to experience, but you shall, and soon (though I find it astounding that the memories of Brits and Yanks are so short).

    Australian media is demonstrating mind-blowing expertise at deceiving, coercing, shaming, reframing, narratising and indoctrinating. It’s so clever that even if MOST Australians are opposed to what’s going on, we have no way of knowing, because the media can make it look as though NO-ONE is. Their selection of the details they want to highlight, edit, crop and present for “discussion” is breathtaking. Evil genius.

    Never mind the fact that the media “talent” themselves are notoriously unintelligent. They are script readers extraordinaire. They are pamphleteers for the ruling oligarchy – not of Australia, but the world. They are the blunt instruments of those who crave absolute world power. These power-fond unknowables demonstrate the skill of surgeons as they use all the instruments at their disposal: political, military, religious, economic, scientific, media, technological, artistic. None of these fields is working for you. It’s patent that they are now working toward the same end, and that there is really only one enemy: us.

    Don’t even believe their explanations for the next “war” when it comes. It’s important that you don’t. They will want your children to fight it. Their “good guy-bad guy” narratives should be the first thing you reject. You can proceed only according to this assumption: without God, no-one is good, though everyone claims to be.

    You can no longer un-see this. We have been living in a dream state. This world is built on so many lies and deceptions for the sake of a small number of people, it’s got to the stage where truth – sorry, Truth – has been utterly negated. As a believer in God these days, I can say that the lessons of Scripture have not been learned. People still turn to people, nations to nations, for comfort – when they’re not turning ON one-another. They think these alliances will help. They turn to the very world that got them here in the first place. But there’s nowhere to turn in this world. Be as smug and scientific, as pompous and political, as you like. There’s nowhere to turn.

    All this time people thought they were a mere audience. Some thought they were watching reality. Some knew they were watching theatre. It didn’t matter. They were written into the play all along, and now the fourth wall is down, the doors to the theatre have slammed shut, sentinels with guns guard them and the dramatis personae are menacing the audience. It’s easy for them now. After all, the audience willingly left their weapons (real and metaphorical) at the door before they entered.

    This is participatory theatre, but your participation is no longer voluntary. To those of you who love this world, you’ll adore the final act! It’ll bring the house down! The rest of us live in hope that the much-ridiculed deus ex machina will provide the means of escape.



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  78. There’s also a third smaller stream of pressure: the biden administration is using Australia as a battering ram to normalise their own activities. So urging scomegalomaniac to go all the way and like a rounded wombat that he is, he and his retard underlings love the idea of being the Biden administartive class’s special little mates.


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  79. There are always exemptions for any vaccine on medical grounds but that should be the only basis. I mean we’re talking about a pandemic that has destroyed you know, the global economy and taken the lives of hundreds of thousands all around the world and over 450 Australians here.”

    The global economy was destroyed by the stupid response, mot the virus.

    In August last year we knew little of just how many would become seriously ill or die over time. It was much clearer in May 2021, and then the oogga boogga Delta re-frightened everyone.

    He was lying then, but you could almost excuse it because of lack of information.

    That he’s still lying is inexcusable.


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  80. On biomass….

    https://www.renewableenergymagazine.com/biomass/wood-pellet-exports-from-us-topic-of-20201104

    Lets chop down and pelletise wood, which we will send across the ocean to be burnt to produce “green’ power!

    In 2009, the European Union’s Renewable Energy Directive (EU RED) established goals to produce more energy from renewable sources, triggering exponential growth in the solid biomass trade. By 2018, the EU was trading over 18 million tons of wood pellets, with a third imported from the southeastern United States.
    Wood Pellet Exports from US Topic of New Study
    Pixabay
    But what effect does this large, new industry have on southeastern US forests? Until now, European policymakers could only infer that the region’s wood pellet industry was compliant with EU RED rules through case studies, land use projections, and literature reviews. This first-of-its-kind study gives a more definite confirmation of compliance.

    From 2005 to 2017, an international team conducted a systemic assessment of 123 areas where wood pellet mills managed vast swaths of forest. Composed of researchers from the Swedish University of Agricultural Sciences, University of Missouri, and Resources for the Future, the team found the following trends:

    Overall, there was a net expansion in the amount of carbon stored in southeastern forests–which means that current production is compliant with EU trade requirements calling for the preservation of carbon stocks in biomass sourcing areas.
    The amount of carbon stored in the soil of southeastern forests decreased with each year of milling operations. There were no significant changes in the amount of carbon stored in live or standing-dead trees, but the carbon was concentrated in fewer but larger trees.
    There was a downward trend in the number of standing-dead trees.
    “All in all, our analysis suggests some positive areas but possible concerns if some trends were to continue. We examined 12 years of data, but that is only a small window of time to assess sustainable forestry,” lead author Francisco Aguilar said. “Monitoring using the best-available data shall continue. And it must be observant of other co-localized factors that can significantly alter forest conditions. For instance, systematic assessments must also take into consideration population changes, expansion in wood fiber demand from other competing sectors, and extreme weather.”

    The researchers also note that the US Department of Energy suggests a 21% increase in domestic electricity generation using wood by 2030 may also signal a further increase in demand–and that future monitoring is warranted.

    “This research provides the first comprehensive assessment of changes to US timberlands induced by demand in the EU for pelletized wood for energy production,” co-author and RFF Darius Gaskins Senior Fellow Dallas Burtraw said. “The findings provide cautious support for the sustainability of US forests, with ongoing monitoring, as demand for wood pellets is likely to increase.”

    I can save them a lot of time and money.
    There are vast reserves of wood available under the ground in the form of coal.
    Youre welcome.


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  81. Greenies get pretty excited about turning “Waste” into anything. Anyone who has anything to do with manufacturing ( ie not most Greenies ) knows that if there is value in something it gets used. WTE is always on the tipping point which is helpful when you are looking for a grant of OPM.


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  82. No reference in ABC, News Corp or Fairfax re how many of latest 11 ‘covid’ deaths in Victoria were not ‘vaccinated.’

    That used to be the norm but now it’s been dropped.

    I therefore assume most of the dead were ‘vaccinated.’


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  83. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:
    October 14, 2021 at 10:02 am

    “I had a look at the number of pregnant women in the third world who were dying of Covid along with their child in utero without help from even basic medical facilities…”

    Is that really a honest and balanced appraisal? Any Obstetrician/ Gynaecologist knows the origin of the cultural norm that it is perfectly acceptable in all cultures for an older man to have a younger wife. The original one died during childbirth.

    Historically without modern medicine and available interventions when complications to the mother and pregnancy arise, having babies is a pretty hazardous undertaking. I believe the general rule of thumb is in times past and in places third world, up to 3/4 of pregnancies spontaneously abort in the first trimester. Up to 1/3 of women used to, and in a lot of places, still do die the course of actually giving birth or not long after due to infection in the absence of professional medical supervision.


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  84. Word from the local supermarket is the frozen veg is really hard to get.
    All levels of the production and storage slowed or stopped because of labour shortage caused by enforced staffing numbers or quarantine.


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  85. China in Focus – NTD
    01:07 Evergrande misses bond payments again
    03:29 River overflows, drowns 12 Chinese villages
    05:11 Chinese farmers cope with flooded crops
    06:01 Chinese state media wants gaming loopholes closed
    08:16 Taiwan resident: war can happen at anytime
    10:42 More die after vax than from virus in Taiwan
    11:15 Harvard moves Chinese study program to Taiwan
    12:46 IMF backs its leader despite misconduct allegation
    16:19 UK backs baltic countries against #ChinaThreat
    17:55 India, U.S. navy chiefs meeting in N. Delhi
    18:48 Expert: China reaching out to Taliban
    21:32 U.S. navy engineer charged w/ selling secrets


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  86. 2,297 – the AFL Grand final party surge finally kicks in.
    Not to worry as TaliDan expected these numbers, it was built into their modelling.
    Had me worried there for a moment.


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  87. I can save them a lot of time and money.
    There are vast reserves of wood available under the ground in the form of coal.

    Yep.

    Less moisture to waste energy on liberating, more concentrated solid carbon, the combustion-aiding benefits of additional gaseous hydrocarbons in situ and any sulfites or nitrates exposed can be rendered harmless both through a sufficiently long flame/gas path and/or appropriate chemical ‘scrubbers’ at the exhaust end.

    It also has a far nicer and less acrid smell, is easier to transport and store for any given unit of mass and volume And can in fact be generated in surprisingly short order from any lignin or cellulose-based biomass with the appropriate quantities of heat and pressure. Check out the coal deposits left behind after Mt Saint Helens went BOOOOOM! in 1989, and buried the redwoods and other tall and dense alpine trees in a decent layer of lava…


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  88. I’ll put this here to keep Arky’s Pro-Jab Thread clear –

    Arky says:
    October 14, 2021 at 10:55 am

    Yeah. Thanks for doing what this thread was about: TO MAKE THE CASE FOR VACCINATIONS.
    I have tried to identify a problem: The arguments for which we’re exposed to are often crap. The mainstream media is propaganda.
    This was a place for those who vaccinated to make the case of why the did without having people jump down their throats.

    Yes but they’re too busy on the Open thread and other places the Jab Informed are chatting about why they won’t get Jabbed.

    They have to CONvert the Non-Jabbers.

    They do not want to preach to the Covid Cultists.


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  89. It is a photo finish in the Disgusting Stakes between Albo and ScoMo.
    The biggest decisions made by the Feds in the last two months have all been carried by ministers, not ScoMo.
    The submarines – that’s yours Pete.
    Cutting off Fed Kung-Flu cash – over to you Josh.
    ScoMo waiting to see which way the wind blows. Friedeggburger has told the states the Feds aren’t an ATM. Watch PalaceChook and Andrews now pickpocket ScoMo on “hospital funding” (ie cash for yet more paper shufflers in state Elf Departments).


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  90. Meanwhile landfills were filling up

    Really?
    Obtain largest dozer the big yellow dozer company makes.
    From SE Australia dig trench heading in the direction of Port Hedland. It is 4000 km away. Dump waste in trench. Cover with dirt. Sell surplus dirt as landfill.
    Problem? What problem?


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  91. Farmer Gezsays:

    October 14, 2021 at 11:02 am

    2,297 – the AFL Grand final party surge finally kicks in.
    Not to worry as TaliDan expected these numbers, it was built into their modelling.

    Mmmmyes.
    Yesterday when they had 1,500 cases, Slugger Sutton said it was starting to plateau.


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  92. HD, I’ve no argument with recognising that women in the third world may have perilous pregnancies and fatal childbirths for mother and/or child. Afghanistan is a case in point given that women in the countryside with no pregnancy care and midwifery at all were not the concern of the ‘feminist’ women in the cities. But there’s no point in denying that many third world women were also dying from Covid infection when Covid was running in epidemic proportions. Vaccinations of all sorts have saved so many lives in the third world, so these vaxxes should be considered too. As Calli has noted, the third world is a different place. The risk equation is different there.


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  93. If anyone could come up a government source that the 13 who were included in yesterday’s covid death tally were all fully vaccinated I’d like to see it.
    Otherwise it’s a mere speculation.


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  94. “P” says Sydney still looks dead even after the vaxxed have been allowed out of their homes.
    Instant analysis here is obviously correct with regards to reasons.
    Can I put forward another reason.
    The amount of actual vaccinated people are nowhere near what the government are telling you.


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  95. Notafan….Are you going to spend the few months you have left on this planet in denial that you only have a few months left?
    Get that bucket list out…….oh hang on a sec……..you’re in Victoria.
    As you were.


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  96. One of my first consulting jobs was in regulated waste. Went on a place in Kwinana where they burnt transformer oil under high temperature and pressure. The whole place looked like something out of the Dark Ages. That was some nasty shit.


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  97. H B Bearsays:

    October 14, 2021 at 11:14 am

    CSR and Boral are making new landfill sites for us every day. As with most things, then you start on regulatory approval.

    Not sure why “landfill” is such a big deal.
    There is a monster hole just outside Geelong where they dug up clay for the brickworks. And, non-porous being clay, it would be perfect for filling up with rubbish.
    And, when it’s done, we have the Yallourn open cut.


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  98. H B Bearsays:

    October 14, 2021 at 11:24 am

    One of my first consulting jobs was in regulated waste. Went on a place in Kwinana where they burnt transformer oil under high temperature and pressure. 

    PCBs?


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  99. rosie.

    Given the average age of the deceased I think its fairly safe to assume, in light of deliberate non-reporting by either government or media, that they had received vaxes.
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-11/victoria-covid-cases-melbourne-lockdown-vaccine-targets/100528404
    Five of the state’s eight deaths were from Melbourne’s north and west, with a woman in her 70s and a man in his 60s from Darebin, a man in his 80s from Maribyrnong, a man in his 80s from Brimbank and a woman in her 70s from Whittlesea passing away with the virus.

    The other three deaths were a man in his 70s from the City of Melbourne, a man in his 40s from Port Phillip and a man in his 70s from Glen Eira.

    Federal and state health pages dont give the breakdowns either.
    https://www.coronavirus.vic.gov.au/victorian-coronavirus-covid-19-data

    You can get postcodes of cases, but not vax status…


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  100. struthsays:

    October 14, 2021 at 11:19 am
    ……….
    Can I put forward another reason.
    The amount of actual vaccinated people are nowhere near what the government are telling you.

    And what do you estimate the percentage of vaxxed to be?


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  101. If anyone could come up a government source that the 13 who were included in yesterday’s covid death tally were all fully vaccinated I’d like to see it.

    They were being coy, which is a tell.

    More information on the cases and deaths will be provided at Thursday morning’s daily press conference.

    Press conference is underway. I doubt they’ll fess. It’s a plus to Chant that she usually does give a breakdown for NSW deaths.


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  102. In breaking news Queensland’s vaccinated percent has dropped a further five points, from Tuesday’s 20% to just 15%.
    Delighted antideathjabbers are expecting those numbers to go into negative territory in the middle of next week, at which time Queensland borders will be open to all.


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  103. PCBs?

    I think so. It all looked like black gunk to me. Plenty of money to be made in waste though. The safety briefing was a bit of an eye opener. They basically evacuated the whole suburb.


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  104. BoN
    As most of the deaths are in Melbourne’s west and north west where there has been far more resistance to the death jab it would be very surprising if all 24 who died over the last two days were fully vaccinated.


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  105. rosie says:
    October 14, 2021 at 11:33 am
    BoN
    As most of the deaths are in Melbourne’s west and north west where there has been far more resistance to the death jab it would be very surprising if all 24 who died over the last two days were fully vaccinated.

    There is no evidence for this assertion and I would like to see a “government” source to back it up.


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  106. And what do you estimate the percentage of vaxxed to be?

    About 50%
    Most lefties …not all by a long shot, and that might give you 35% vaxxed and add to that the Karens on the right, I would guess at about 50%.
    Immigration of low IQ millions from third world shit holes might take it to 60%.
    Young ones don’t watch the TV and they are split evenly ……………all assumptions on my part.
    Admitted.
    Of course Notafan and others will look to the OFFICIAL figures from government as if it’s the word of god and not to be questioned.


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  107. Rosie – That’s another reason for not being specific. “Diversity” details aren’t ever mentioned in the NSW press conferences, but the same “LGAs-of-concern” keep on appearing: Bankstown, Greenacre, Auburn.


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  108. rosiesays:
    October 14, 2021 at 11:25 am
    I don’t know why it is that NSW is transparent about whether covid victims are vaccinated and Victoria is not.

    That’s a real headscratcher. Hopefully it’s something innocent like a mere oversight. Daily.


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  109. If the vaccine caused covid you’d sorta be expecting tens of thousands of cases.

    lol
    you could even say the same if sars-cov2 caused covid

    covid is a politic not a disease


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  110. transformer oil

    …is indeed a prick to burn- Packed full of fire retardants and other chemicals to prevent bad things happening when transformers run hotter than their cooling oil can dissipate.

    Some fellows I know in the New Zealand and Welsh railway scenes have had experience of the terrible mistake it is when somebody buys a tankload of transformer oil, citing the cheap price, and tries to burn it in a locomotive.

    Conversely, the stuff they reckoned went the very best, was the washings out of aircraft fuel tanks. AVTUR is the good oil (Honk!)…


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  111. In breaking news Queensland’s vaccinated percent has dropped a further five points, from Tuesday’s 20% to just 15%.
    Delighted antideathjabbers are expecting those numbers to go into negative territory in the middle of next week, at which time Queensland borders will be open to all.

    So this can only mean the jab has killed that 5%.
    About right.
    Queensland hospitals have been treating jab victims and Queenslanders know it.


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  112. Breaking news, Bear is Tony Soprano.

    Actually one of our proposals did involve Perth’s informal pharmaceutical sector. We said we probably couldn’t help them.


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  113. That’s a real headscratcher. Hopefully it’s something innocent like a mere oversight. Daily.

    Yeah, just like the mere oversight of who gave $24M to an unqualified security contractor. That sort of oversight. Yep really innocent.


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  114. The whole place looked like something out of the Dark Ages

    This is Kwinana in general right?

    If the grain dust in CBH Kwinana ever ignites, the blast will flatten the Bunnings and its nearby Muzz Buzz.

    This would be very sad- I have had many a very satisfying post-shift brew and even brekky from the Kwinana Muzz Buzz.

    Their potato gems with chicken salt are to die for. Ditto the buzz ballz.*

    *Smiles in reheated donutty goodness…


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  115. Conversely, the stuff they reckoned went the very best, was the washings out of aircraft fuel tanks. AVTUR is the good oil (Honk!)…

    That’s Jet A1 or better, otherwise known as kerosene.


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  116. Rosie if any majority of 11 were ‘vaccinated,’ Victoria would have said so.
    Ergo: we know with 100 percent certainty that a majority of deaths in Victoria were ‘vaccinated.’

    The Andrews government is now deliberately killing people so that it can ride out the bell curve and claim ‘victory’ when “case” numbers go down.

    Opening up is what’s needed. Melbourne is basically a funky, germ-ridden rumpus room that needs its windows thrown open and a full bond clean-out done on the surfaces and floors and dunnies.

    Talk about Dirty Old Town.


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  117. So our ASIO protectors find that listening in to the Australia/Taliban cultural enrichment seminar would be in breach of the LNP imposed obligation to commit all resources to the war against the two old winos from the back bar of the Woolloomooloo pub.
    Fucked.


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  118. It would require heroic levels of koolaid guzzling to conjure up a complete fantasy that if all or even most of the people who had died were not vaccinated that Victoria, of all, governments would suddenly start hiding that detail right now.

    In the very moment that Victoria are threatening people with homelessness if they don’t get vaccinated, they stop reporting the vaccination status of people dying because they’re all unvaccinated.

    I mean how honest to god delusional would you have to be to think that.


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  119. H B Bearsays:
    October 14, 2021 at 11:24 am
    One of my first consulting jobs was in regulated waste. Went on a place in Kwinana where they burnt transformer oil under high temperature and pressure. The whole place looked like something out of the Dark Ages. That was some nasty shit.

    Was that the old Kwinana power station where they dumped P.F. capacitors in Cockburn Sound?


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  120. H B Bearsays:
    October 14, 2021 at 11:43 am

    The real information in press conferences is what you are not told.

    Until someone does tell you, then it becomes the ‘conspiracy theory’ of The Unpersoned.


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  121. While I’m reluctant to re-ignite a tedious “debate” about a now well-worn matter, I have to ask those who would argue the minutae of a single study as if it could destroy the entire controversy around the “safety” of these jab – I have to wonder just how many jab-induced miscarriages would be acceptable? After all, each one is a death.

    Similarly, perhaps we could be told just how many life-long jab-induced injuries would be acceptable; or how many children should be content to lose a parent to the jab because the parent has been pressured, coerced, blackmailed into taking it to keep their job and thus the ability to provide for their family? Seriously, the numbers are out there, even with so many adverse reactions not being reported or acknowledged, for there to be at least a sensible pause and honest re-evaluation of the entire debacle.

    If this was indeed about our health and safety, that would be the logical response. But no, it’s full steam ahead. If you’re not asking why by now…


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  122. Some fellows I know in the New Zealand and Welsh railway scenes have had experience of the terrible mistake it is when somebody buys a tankload of transformer oil, citing the cheap price, and tries to burn it in a locomotive.

    Ouch. Especially if it has sulfur hexafluoride in it.


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  123. Prediction: in 2026 we’ll casually be told that the 2020/2021 vaccines were as effective as chicken soup.

    Does this not sound eerily familiar?

    Serious adverse events were first reported during post-marketing surveillance from Japan, UK, and subsequently from other places although most of the published articles did not report them. A recent Cochrane review and a series of articles in British Medical Journal (BMJ) have revealed the truth behind oseltamivir[Tamiflu] success story, which incidentally is one of the highest revenue earners for Roche. It is inexplicable that despite the lack of scientifically robust data on efficacy and safety of Oseltamivir, reputed organizations like World Health Organization (WHO), Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), EMA, US FDA not only recommended the drug in question for treatment and prophylaxis of influenza but its stockpiling as well.

    This fiasco essentially provides us with an opportunity to articulate tangible lessons so as to guard against such scientific transgressions in the future. There is a need to consider changes in the process of introduction of a new drug in the public health care system and to bring greater accountability and transparency in the way we practice science.


    . It is inexplicable that despite the lack of scientifically robust data on efficacy and safety of Oseltamivir[Tamiflu], reputed organizations like World Health Organization (WHO), Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), EMA, US FDA not only recommended the drug in question for treatment and prophylaxis of influenza but its stockpiling as well.

    Add the TGA to that too, Australia stockpiled tens of millions of doses of it, we literally created a national stockpile for swine flu and all future pandemics.


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  124. I see two young blokes have been renditioned to jail wihout bail for going to the AFL grand final.
    Meanwhile, Andrews and Sutton have deliberately killed hundreds.

    Also meanwhile… Greg Hunt says today that he is “sure” approval will be forthcoming to syringe-rape 5 to 12 year-olds.

    Triple meanwhile… far left-wing The Australian is running a ‘well done’ story today about white vaxx cultists needling Aboriginal children by taking a Mr Whippie van along with them.

    That’s not made up.

    They are literally using the meme/cliche of child molesters – the friendly ice-cream van – to GET these intransigent Abos.


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  125. Some fellows I know in the New Zealand and Welsh railway scenes have had experience of the terrible mistake it is when somebody buys a tankload of transformer oil, citing the cheap price, and tries to burn it in a locomotive.

    I don’t know if they’re still doing it (they probably are) but about 10 years ago thieves in Zimbabwe were breaking into substations and draining the oil to sell to motorists. I don’t know what it did to vehicles but it certainly didn’t improve the performance of the electricity grid.


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  126. Strawman alert.
    I never claimed I thought all those who died were unvaccinated.
    I think, perfectly reasonably, as in NSW, is it will be a mix of probably mostly vaxxed, part vaxxed and unvaccinated.
    I also think they will all be people with other serious underlying health issues.
    If people are going to tout this latest round of deaths as proof of lookit the vaccines don’t work! knock yourselves out.
    My only concern is getting actual evidence.


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  127. Mmmmyes.
    Yesterday when they had 1,500 cases, Slugger Sutton said it was starting to plateau.

    My lordy yes Sancho.
    The wife pointed out to me this morning that TaliDan’s latest word salad is at odds with Slugger’s musings from yesterday.
    Reports from town this morning that a number of workers are laid off in intensive Ag industries around the district because they wouldn’t get jabbed.


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  128. They are literally using the meme/cliche of child molesters – the friendly ice-cream van – to GET these intransigent Abos.

    this is exactly why little kids are instinctively shit-scared of clowns


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  129. I see two young blokes have been renditioned to jail wihout bail for going to the AFL grand final.

    Those two were just taking the piss. Lucky being a wanker isn’t a criminal offence or they’d end up in the same place. I won’t even bother looking for my tiny violin for those two.


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  130. @ Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare,
    I can appreciate from whence your viewpoint arises, however I see the inference that corona makes any difference at all to mortality and morbidity relative to pregnancy as no more than another conceptual norm hijacked and used misinformatively. Obviously not intentionally or capriciously in your case.

    I don’t disagree at all that actual, genuine vaccination is a means for public good, particularly in third world places. However, it is beyond dispute that the mRNA medical interventions are by definition gene therapy that has departed little from the protocols developed in the early-mid 1990’s. That while at the time reproducibly demonstrated here in Australia to “cure” type I diabetes, required endless “boosters”. Ultimately the risk of continued interventions (increasing auto immunity to modified pancreatic and other tissues) outweighed dramatically the risk of standard insulin injections as per normal management. If it is possible to use the term “management” relevant to a progressive disease such as IDDM.

    Specifically in reference to these mRNA interventions and pregnancy. The design of the interventions, the general application thereof to pregnant women and the unborn is a stupid idea. For two observed reasons;

    i) Given the limited publically available post-mortem studies, the lipid nanoparticle/ complex vectors are transversing both the blood-brain and blood-gonad barriers. Evident from the multi-systemic localised histologically visible micro scarring and clotting. If you want an immune response, you want it anywhere but the brains and gonads. These are the two organ systems all of Medicine is designed to protect and perpetuate.

    While babies and children do have the capacity for the most part to overcome systemic nerve and brain damage, I can see so rationale to causing injury to the unborn en-masse, to an entire population before they have even “stepped” out of the womb.

    ii) The rational design of the epitope coded for in the medical interventions, against which specific immune responses are sought is not very rational. Criminally negligent in fact. That carries for the non- mRNA vaccines like AZ . Many will argue intentionally just plain intentionally criminal. There is no reason at all why the mRNA’s had to be designed to produce immunity to a functional spike protein. Why the damned modified spikes most of the time will remain attached to the modified cells. Antibody dependent enhancement could have been avoided entirely by targeting entirely different portions of SARS Cov2.

    —–

    The way I see it, these interventions were specifically designed with pregnant women in mind. “Foundations” like the Bill and Melinda Gates after all being so concerned with the plight of people in the third world deliberately steered the design of these medical interventions. They never have had much success with their previous third world birth control/ family management campaigns.

    By facilitating a level of care to women normally unavailable during pregnacy to ensure dramatic reductions in normal mortality and injury to both mother and child would create perhaps 1/3-3/4 more of a compounding “problem”. The problem being a larger population of people in the third world. More girls who’ll grow up without access to contraception, education and employment which by themselves lead to self regulation, flat lining and decrease of population growth.

    In my view it is beyond reasonable doubt that very sick people are responsible for what is being seen to play out. The calculated sociopathic idea that the best way to improve the lot of people in the third world and the planet in general is to reduce future numbers. There is no rational, compassionate nor altruistic rationale for deploying an intervention that has a propensity to localise in the gonadal tissues and cause injury and scarring. Other than the rationale that if the people never happen there will not be a future problem of their welfare.


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  131. Conversely, the stuff they reckoned went the very best, was the washings out of aircraft fuel tanks. AVTUR is the good oil (Honk!)…

    Bloke I knew worked at Brisbane airport turning aircraft. The entire crew working this bought diesel cars.


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  132. Last day on deck. Who knows what’s going to happen tomorrow. We have a huge number of null responses on vax status. So far we have a couple of guys who can service aircraft and one (1) who can run the plant who will be able to work tomorrow in The Bat Eared Mongs idiocracy. Last guy on shift tonight is unvaxxed so I guess he will be shutting things down and walking out the door.


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  133. Bloke I knew worked at Brisbane airport turning aircraft. The entire crew working this bought diesel cars.

    You need to add two stroke oil to it. Jet A1 has ver poor lubricity, stuffs injector pumps fast.


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  134. Muh “Wussian collusion”…

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10070093/Joe-Biden-Hunters-shared-bank-accounts-make-president-target-FBI-probe.html
    EXCLUSIVE: Joe Biden could become embroiled in the FBI’s probe into Hunter’s finances, experts say: Emails reveal they SHARED bank accounts, paid each other’s bills and the president may have even have funded his son’s 2018 drug and prostitution binge
    Emails from Hunter Biden’s abandoned laptop, obtained by DailyMail.com, reveal Joe and Hunter shared bank accounts and paid each other’s bills
    The president have may have inadvertently funded his son’s 2018 drug and prostitution binge
    Emails between Hunter and Eric Schwerin, his business partner at consultancy Rosemont Seneca, show Schwerin was working on Joe’s taxes
    The claim raises serious questions about whether funds from the joint accounts were used for Hunter’s May 2018 week-long bender with a prostitute
    Last December, Hunter admitted in a public statement that he was under federal investigation over his tax affairs
    A former federal prosecutor tells DailyMail.com that if money was flowing between Hunter and his father, that could make Joe a target of the probe
    The FBI and IRS probe is reportedly also looking into Hunter’s foreign business relationships and the potential for money laundering charges



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  135. Bloke I knew worked at Brisbane airport turning aircraft. The entire crew working this bought diesel cars.

    Zero cost to the company for subsequent fuel disposal and minimal-cost fuel for the employees.

    While the legal greyness of this arrangement might vary depending on whom you talk to, the mutual benefit to all parties is very easy to see…


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  136. Farmer Gez says:
    October 14, 2021 at 10:57 am
    Word from the local supermarket is the frozen veg is really hard to get.
    All levels of the production and storage slowed or stopped because of labour shortage caused by enforced staffing numbers or quarantine.

    Buy fresh or grow your own then blanch and freeze it in meal-sized packages. Alternatively, if you have a Vacola preserving kit you can do it that way in bottles. If you’re into pickled veg/preserved in vinegar that’s another option.


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  137. The whole place looked like something out of the Dark Ages.

    When they were doing the start up of the LNG plant in PNG, at night from the deck of the Yatchie it did a great Mordor impersonation.


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  138. Those two were just taking the piss. Lucky being a wanker isn’t a criminal offence or they’d end up in the same place. I won’t even bother looking for my tiny violin for those two.

    Que?


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  139. You need to add two stroke oil to it. Jet A1 has ver poor lubricity, stuffs injector pumps fast.

    Wasn’t there a change some years ago to low sulphur diesel that likewise has poor lubricity?


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  140. at night from the deck of the Yatchie it did a great Mordor impersonation.

    More flame flares and echoey deep-bass trumpeting than the outcome of consecutive Friday nights on the curry, kebabs and bad Mexican combined?

    (But hopefully with less Goblins. Nobody likes goblins…)


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  141. 2297 cases in Victoria but word is lockdown could ‘end’ next week.
    So much for all those doughnut days.

    In this morning’s call my manager mentioned that most of the exposure sites are childcare centres now.
    Not sure how true it is – he is the one closely following this bs. He said “unfortunately kids are also affected by COVID”.
    That got me thinking – is it a coincidence that they are approving jabs for kids now? Also this overweight girl on TV yesterday. Full on propaganda imho.


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  142. Best of luck to you Rick!

    I was advised today that only double jabbed can return to the office in December, and a couple months later those not in the office get fired.

    I’ll be laughing when those double jabbed are dropping from infecting each other, though they’ll blame the unwashed on public transport no doubt.
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  143. most of the exposure sites are childcare centres now.

    Hmm 2200-ish cases

    … tell me ‘they’ aren’t going around sticking a swab up snotty kids noses looking for corona-viruses ?

    Why yes, yes they are

    maybe they’ll dislodge a few crayons and Lego soldiers too


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  144. See this.
    This is how you get people deciding the current system isnt worth having a stake in (geddit) and it might be time to wreck whats currently going on and seeing where the remaining pieces fall.
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10088073/Beef-farmers-forced-slash-production-2030-meet-climate-targets.html
    How your steak is set become ‘as exclusive as champagne’: Beef farmers will be forced to slash production before 2030 to meet climate targets even as demand increases, sending prices soaring
    Jais Valeur, boss of Europe’s biggest slaughterhouse, has warned the only way for agriculture industry to hit climate targets will be to dramatically reduce the amount of beef it produces
    Beef is by-far the most polluting meat to produce, and Mr Valeur said there are not enough ways to reduce its environmental impact without getting rid of cows and cutting production
    At the same time, demand for beef is set to rise meaning that prices will inevitably rise as supplies dwindle
    Mr Valeur predicted that steaks will become ‘a luxury like champagne’ before the end of the decade

    They do really want you to live in the pod.
    They do really want you to eat the bugs
    They do really want you to own nothing, and be happy about it.

    Meanwhile “they” will cocoon themselves from the same happening to them, rejoicing that the have nots are segregated back where they belong.
    The ski slopes and exotic holiday destinations have never been more free of those middle class, embarrassing rabble they used to be crowded with.


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  145. Meanwhile “they” will cocoon themselves from the same happening to them, rejoicing that the have nots are segregated back where they belong.

    Clearly identifying themselves.


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  146. most of the exposure sites are childcare centres now

    Germariums.

    I don’t know whether sharing germs in kindergartens is good for the human race or bad, but they’re quite efficient at it.


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  147. Not sure how true it is – he is the one closely following this bs. He said “unfortunately kids are also affected by COVID”.

    Little lies people tell themselves.

    Goes alongside “I put the kids in daycare so they learn to socialise”.

    Myess, that’s why they’re imprisoned there eight hours a day five days a week since they were one.

    That culture is connected to this.


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