3,116 thoughts on “Open Thread- Mon 11 Oct 2021”

  1. Dot says:
    October 14, 2021 at 12:56 pm
    Beef farmers will be forced to slash production before 2030 to meet climate targets even as demand increases, sending prices soaring

    Years ago a CSIRO lady professor was telling us unwashed farmers at a conference that rising sea levels were an imminent danger unless we cut our CO2 production.
    Naughty me suggested that if we go down that path we’ll starve long before we drown.
    She was very cross and huffed off.


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  2. I know someone in vic who is in isolation because of his kids in daycare.

    He was lamenting being locked at home with them. He works from home, and is a covid karen. So what he was whinging about is that while he’s comfy at home with his fat mrs who is also at home ‘working’, is they can’t boot their toddlers out the door to go to the local masked-prole staffed disease incubation centre during the Global Pandemic(tm).

    Two and four years old, a real trial for him he lamented to the team who showed sympathy for that dreadful plight.

    It’s not an exaggeration to say that much of the professional class loathe children, culturally. The old Victorian era upper middle class was the same. Palmed them off to nannies and au-pairs and school as fast as they could, just a real callous disregard for them which naturally begat the industrial child labor atrocities.

    So don’t expect to see any push back against the vaccine lunatics chasing little kids around with highly experimental DNA / mRNA concoctions for no benefit to them.


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  3. All the rest are ghastly mistakes.

    George Lazenby’s decision to turn down a 7-film contract was the biggest Bond mistake ever.
    Lazenby did a good job as Bond and was probably the only Bond actor who could carry off the film’s sombre ending.

    I’m coming around to the inescapable conclusion that the new No Time to Die will be my last Bond film. Just repeats from now on.


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  4. if you scroll though Victoria’s tier 1 exposure sites child care centres and primary schools continue to feature prominently, my family once again just dodged a 14 days in quarantine bullet.

    the UK figures show kids are the primary spreaders


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  5. struthsays:

    October 14, 2021 at 11:36 am

    And what do you estimate the percentage of vaxxed to be?

    About 50%
    Most lefties …not all by a long shot, and that might give you 35% vaxxed and add to that the Karens on the right, I would guess at about 50%.
    Immigration of low IQ millions from third world shit holes might take it to 60%.

    So, just a guess then?


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  6. So don’t expect to see any push back against the vaccine lunatics chasing little kids around with highly experimental DNA / mRNA concoctions for no benefit to them.

    For us this is the line in the sand. If they force it on our kids (6yo to 15yo), we are thinking of getting out of here. The problem is I’m not sure where to, since the whole world looks crazy at the moment. And it’s not that easy either when you don’t have much financial resources.


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  7. the UK figures show kids are the primary spreaders

    Long may it continue.

    1. Hopefully it will allow them to avoid becoming part of the medical trial.
    2. Kids aren’t getting really sick from it, they’re not really dying from it and they aren’t suffering ‘Long Covid’.
    3. If vaccinated individuals still get and give the virus, why stab them in a vain attempt to stop it happening?

    Shit happens.


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  8. TV show review..

    Watched 2 episodes so you dont have to.

    Lovecraft Country is basically a racist pile of shit.
    2 episodes and everyone bad is white, the negroes are all so peachy keen and wonderful and no mention of anything can be done without an obligatory “whites are evil reference”.

    The pacing is just shit, I thought the DVD had skipped a few times as things just happened because they could.
    Lots of foreboding, done about as convincing as a pantomime villain with kids yelling “hes behind you” at the hero.

    It got the obligatory good rating (please dont cancel me) for being so “brave” but wasnt renewed for a second season.
    When your business model revolves around insulting about 80% of your audience based on skin colour every episode, you might be a racist piece of shit.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viVRAE3_vaU


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  9. If they force it on our kids (6yo to 15yo), we are thinking of getting out of here.

    Australia is funny, the terror at the thought of kids not being in school means they won’t mandate it to go to school I don’t think.

    But what they’re gearing up to do – is sneak into the schools and ‘jab’ kids half on the sly before anyone can put up resistance or organise to pull their kids out.


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  10. The best thing to do, if you are worried about stuff happening at school in your absence, is to not return them until next year.

    Things may have changed by then. There are all sorts of reasons you can put ip for their absence – they’ve lost so much classroom time a couple more weeks won’t hurt them.


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  11. rosiesays:

    October 14, 2021 at 1:04 pm

    Just as well dan abandoned zero covid

    Bwah ha ha ha ha.
    More correctly I think Zero Covid has abandoned Hunchback.


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  12. Jeremy Paxman’s new book, on the history of coal mining in Britain makes the point that, at a time when the British Empire was sending ships around the world to redeem natives from sin, and to suppress slavery, Britain’s own people, including children as young as four and five years old, were being used as “beasts of burden” in the coal mines. P59.


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  13. Ah, did I hear right?
    Did I hear Weimar say (in relation to the availability of various vaxes):-
    “There is good supplies of all. Choose your poison.”


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  14. Given the average age of the deceased I think its fairly safe to assume, in light of deliberate non-reporting by either government or media, that they had received vaxes.

    Yes. Somewhere between fairly safe and very safe, one would think.

    The victims were apparently mostly over 70, the youngest 40. In Victoria 90%+ of the population over 40 is reported as double vaxxed, with 94% of the over 70’s.

    So, statistically, you would expect most victims to be vaxxed – and 100% vaxxed wouldn’t be a surprise outcome in a small sample.

    Silence on the matter is most likely due to The Science.


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  15. Judge blocks Baltimore from banning Catholic group’s rally
    AP NEWS – Yesterday

    FILE – Fr. Paul Kalchik, left, St. Michael’s Media founder and CEO Michael Voris, center, and Milo Yiannopoulos talk with a court officer before entering the federal courthouse, Sept. 30, 2021 in Baltimore. A federal judge has blocked Baltimore city officials from banning the conservative Roman Catholic media outlet from holding a prayer rally at a city-owned pavilion during a U.S. bishops’ meeting next month. U.S. District Judge Ellen Hollander ruled late Tuesday, Oct. 13, 2021 that St. Michael’s Media is likely to succeed on its claims that the city discriminated against it on the basis of its political views and violated its First Amendment free speech rights. (AP Photo/Gail Burton, file)

    h/t Jack Posobiec


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  16. Does that mean that it’s mostly the unvaxxed spreading covid?

    I said from the getgo our babies would be getting vaxxed over a line of dead bodies and nothing has changed there.
    And quite frankly at this stage getting covid spreading is a good thing.
    Why bunch it up to when international travel resumes?


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  17. But what they’re gearing up to do – is sneak into the schools and ‘jab’ kids half on the sly before anyone can put up resistance or organise to pull their kids out.

    That’s why they allowed kids as young as 12 to give consent for COVID jab without their parents’ knowledge.


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  18. Silence on the matter is most likely due to The Science.

    Having done a shitload of statistical analysis on the Covid data over the last 18 months, the finding with the highest certainty, and smallest error bars, is the fact that when a dataset gets inconvenient, it disappears.


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  19. How well the sheeples have become shawn ..!
    My, usual, Thursday break-out bike ride from Fairfield to Blacktown to see my youngest daughter and the subject turned to jabbing .. or, more specifically, me being what she calls an .. anti vaxxer!..
    “You really shouldn’t be here Dad (as she sez every week! .. duuh!) it’s still not allowed” ..
    News to me I thought the LGA bans were gone but she reckons they are still in place for the un-clean
    Then I asked, “When are we gonna go to Gosford to see the kids?” (I don’t drive) ..
    “Oh, we can’t do that, Dad, I can but your not allowed & besides David wouldn’t want you near the kids cos your not vaxxed” ..
    Well dun, GLADYS & now PARROT-head .. brain washing job dun & dusted ……!


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  20. twostixsays:
    October 14, 2021 at 12:45 pm

    Not sure how true it is – he is the one closely following this bs. He said “unfortunately kids are also affected by COVID”.

    Little lies people tell themselves.

    Goes alongside “I put the kids in daycare so they learn to socialise”.

    Myess, that’s why they’re imprisoned there eight hours a day five days a week since they were one.

    That culture is connected to this.

    Yep, a couple of generations of children being ‘raised’ in Godless Baby Gaols produced just what it was intended to …


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  21. Jeremy Paxman’s new book, on the history of coal mining in Britain makes the point that, at a time when the British Empire was sending ships around the world to redeem natives from sin, and to suppress slavery, Britain’s own people, including children as young as four and five years old, were being used as “beasts of burden” in the coal mines. P59.

    True enough, but only for nine years.

    Slavery was abolished in the British Empire in 1833.

    The Mines and Collieries Bill, which prohibited women and girls and boys under 10 from working underground, was passed in 1842 after a Royal Commission alerted parliamentarians to the poor conditions they laboured under.

    As with the slavery issue, evangelical members of the C of E took the lead in addressing the matter and pushing it through parliament in the face of vested interests.


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  22. What years were these, Zulu? Wilberforce was agitating for change in the late 1700’s and Shaftesbury in the mid 1800’s.

    Sometime in between, the great missionary movement began. It looks as if all these reforms and the desire to bring the Gospel to other lands fed upon each other. The industrial revolution, with all its abuses, enabled the establishment of a large middle class and a renewed sense of responsibility.

    Work houses were a feature of English society until well into the 20th century.

    Thanks for bringing up the topic. Makes a change from the Great EnJabbening.


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  23. I’m coming around to the inescapable conclusion that the new No Time to Die will be my last Bond film. Just repeats from now on.

    Afraid so.

    Likely the canon will be ‘rediscovered’ in 30/40 years – and it will be remakes from Dr No onwards.

    If they’re smart, they’ll cast Sir Roger; he’s got a few good ones left in him.


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  24. … tell me ‘they’ aren’t going around sticking a swab up snotty kids noses looking for corona-viruses ?
    Why yes, yes they are
    \maybe they’ll dislodge a few crayons and Lego soldiers too

    I’ve got a 3 years old grandaughter who stores food up her nose .. presumably for later .. don’t think she’ll be very happy if someone tries to steal her in-betweens .. LOL!


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  25. But what they’re gearing up to do – is sneak into the schools and ‘jab’ kids half on the sly before anyone can put up resistance or organise to pull their kids out.

    There there will be a line of dads (and mums) outside the school willing to die to prevent this. This is my hill.

    But them doing it surreptitiously … that is scary. Is there a way to prevent this? [My daughter is totally influencer influenced, and has said she wants it because her friends are getting it and and and. So – even with me feeding her info – she’ll consent.]


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  26. Mater says:
    October 14, 2021 at 1:31 pm
    …the finding with the highest certainty, and smallest error bars, is the fact that when a dataset gets inconvenient, it disappears.

    An Iron Law.
    We are living in Babel for a reason.


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  27. What years were these, Zulu? Wilberforce was agitating for change in the late 1700’s and Shaftesbury in the mid 1800’s.

    The 1840’s. The book is “Black Gold. The History of How Coal Made Britain.” Interesting reading.


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  28. Stunning admission about the c-vax.

    ValGlass2.0
    @AussieVal10
    Did she say “pushback”?

    Yes, they are watching our behaviour to see what they can get away with, just as
    @CraigKellyMP
    said yesterday.

    It’s about control…how much control will they get?
    12:08 PM · Oct 12, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

    https://xyz.net.au/2021/10/stunning-admission-well-scrap-vaccine-mandate-if-we-cant-enforce-it/

    ”We’ll scrap vax mandates if we can’t enforce it” – David Hiscox 12 Oct 2021

    Also at the link, explains how many of them are related. It’s like we’re been ruled by inbreds.


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  29. I can’t help but remember Eyrie or someone else once describing RAN Sea King autorotation exercise as having “All the grace of a grand piano flung out of a seventh-storey window…”

    3 autorotations in the SAR Huey at RAAF Pearce, long ago.
    3 seconds of weightlessness followed by a descent at 6000 fpm (60 knots) at 60 knots forward airspeed. Land anywhere you see through the chin windows.
    Exactly like “All the grace of a grand piano flung out of a seventh-storey window…”


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  30. One thing that I haven’t heard recently is the repetition of the claim that “we’re all in this together.”

    That lie isn’t repeated these days as the punters know it’s not true, they know that their lords and masters, the politicians, judges, and possibly others are exempt from the mandatory jabbing rules, only the plebs have to get jabbed or lose their jobs.


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  31. I’ve also watched the Robbie 22 ‘s doing practice autorotations at Caloundra. That is truly frightening as they plummet out of the sky like a shot duck only to recover at the last moment.
    One was doing practice autos on to RWY 06 at Toowoomba one day as the new owner was doing his factory familiarisation. Didn’t recover soon enough so rolled itself into a ball. The blokes got out and dusted themselves off as he was with the factory instructor, they had to give him a new R-22. The folks at Aerotec were watching as it all happened right outside their hangar.


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  32. The Mines and Collieries Bill, which prohibited women and girls and boys under 10 from working underground, was passed in 1842

    Until 1850, there was only one mines inspector….few mines inspectors ever bothered going underground as they feared for their lives…(Page 65.)


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  33. “Lovecraft Country is basically a racist pile of shit.
    2 episodes and everyone bad is white, the negroes are all so peachy keen and wonderful and no mention of anything can be done without an obligatory “whites are evil reference”.

    The pacing is just shit, I thought the DVD had skipped a few times as things just happened because they could.
    Lots of foreboding, done about as convincing as a pantomime villain with kids yelling “hes behind you” at the hero.

    It got the obligatory good rating (please dont cancel me) for being so “brave” but wasnt renewed for a second season.
    When your business model revolves around insulting about 80% of your audience based on skin colour every episode, you might be a racist piece of shit.”

    You managed more than me, I lasted through about three quarters of the first episode and thought it was a big load of boring contrived racist clap trap….racist towards white people that’s but that’s okay nowadays…of course. As an aside, the lead actress, who herself is half white…is Jurnee Diana Smollet.
    Hmm…does that surname ring a bell? Wonder who her brother is? He’s a perpetrator of a big racist hoax.


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  34. And quite frankly at this stage getting covid spreading is a good thing.

    Yep, I’m waiting until someone I know has it, so I can visit. Been waiting a long time.
    Just heard about local watering hole open only to the vaxxed last Monday night, had to turn away a LOT of patrons who were NOT happy. There are police on the roads but not patrolling the shopping centres for example. Hope everyone holds out and resists. Can’t undo a vax once you’ve had it.


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  35. On the death data.
    I tend to agree with HB, Mater & CL that, if a previously touted stat (deaths of vaxed vs unvaxed) is omitted, it is an indicator that it may contain traces of “inconvenient truths”.
    However, I also agree with Rosie that it is a leap of logic to assume that all eleven dead were vaxed in the absence of evidence.


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  36. Hmm…does that surname ring a bell? Wonder who her brother is? He’s a perpetrator of a big racist hoax.

    Siblings are Jussie Smollett, Jazz Smollett, Jake Smollett, Jojo Smollett, Jocqui Smollett…


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  37. Thanks P –

    P says:
    October 14, 2021 at 1:27 pm
    Judge blocks Baltimore from banning Catholic group’s rally
    AP NEWS – Yesterday

    FILE – Fr. Paul Kalchik, left, St. Michael’s Media founder and CEO Michael Voris, center, and Milo Yiannopoulos talk with a court officer before entering the federal courthouse, Sept. 30, 2021 in Baltimore. A federal judge has blocked Baltimore city officials from banning the conservative Roman Catholic media outlet from holding a prayer rally at a city-owned pavilion during a U.S. bishops’ meeting next month. U.S. District Judge Ellen Hollander ruled late Tuesday, Oct. 13, 2021 that St. Michael’s Media is likely to succeed on its claims that the city discriminated against it on the basis of its political views and violated its First Amendment free speech rights. (AP Photo/Gail Burton, file)

    h/t Jack Posobiec

    https://apnews.com/article/business-media-religion-beda9f28fa619f3e07882fcc1a5588eb
    ____________________________________________

    In Australia the they would be too busy arguing about the ‘bad optics’ of letting two Ex-gay men speak for Catholicism and decide it wasn’t worth it for the backlash they’d get from the Alphabet Mobs.

    Still, even in America it’s the Militant Lay Catholics and some good Priests (and so, persecuted by their Bishop’s), who are doing what the Church Leaders should but refuse to do.


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  38. The Mines and Collieries Bill, which prohibited women and girls and boys under 10 from working underground, was passed in 1842

    But not well enforced. It took about 10 years to come into full effect for small children, and another 10 before the last women mine workers left the pit.

    Children were employed in UK coal mines until the 1980’s.


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  39. Children were employed in UK coal mines until the 1980’s.
    One of my great grandad’s started down the mine at age 13 years in 1887 and retired from the same pit in 1938 at 64 .. he died 3 months later …….


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  40. Farmer Gezsays:
    October 14, 2021 at 2:17 pm
    Follow down to the “bizarre rant”
    Nanno wrigglers in teen reporters brain.

    Natalie wrote that column while lying in bed. The new normal working arrangements are amazing.


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  41. As an aside, the lead actress, who herself is half white…is Jurnee Diana Smollet.
    Hmm…does that surname ring a bell? Wonder who her brother is? He’s a perpetrator of a big racist hoax.

    I didnt realize that…

    Lol at having a racist hoaxer playing a victim of racists….


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  42. Farmer Gezsays:

    October 14, 2021 at 2:17 pm

    Follow down to the “bizarre rant”
    Nanno wrigglers in teen reporters brain.

    Summary.
    1. Lots of anxiety from retail wukkas about impending abuse;
    2. One example cited (which may or may not have been a promo stunt).


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  43. A girl named Mary Richards, who was thought remarkably pretty when she left the workhouse, and, who was not quite ten years of age, attended a drawing frame, below which, and about a foot from the floor, was a horizontal shaft, by which the frames above were turned. It happened one evening, when her apron was caught by the shaft. In an instant the poor girl was drawn by an irresistible force and dashed on the floor. She uttered the most heart-rending shrieks! The factory overseer ran towards her, an agonized and helpless beholder of a scene of horror. He saw her whirled round and round with the shaft – he heard the bones of her arms, legs, thighs, etc. successively snap asunder, crushed, seemingly, to atoms, as the machinery whirled her round, and drew tighter and tighter her body within the works, her blood was scattered over the frame and streamed upon the floor, her head appeared dashed to pieces – at last, her mangled body was jammed in so fast, between the shafts and the floor, that the water being low and the wheels off the gear, it stopped the main shaft. When she was extricated, every bone was found broken – her head dreadfully crushed. She was carried off quite lifeless.

    Charming society the wealthy beneficiaries of the top-down, forced, industrial revolution created.

    What is the society of this top-down, forced, technological revolution going to create? Children won’t be sacrificed to machinery and industry – the gods of 1800, naturally. Instead look to what the gods and idols of the current revolution are: science, ‘healthcare’ and technology.

    We’re starting to find out what the establishment class imagine their new society to look like right now. But whatever the age, post revolution, children are always shuttered away and violently mistreated by the first generation in the post revolution world.


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  44. One of my great grandad’s started down the mine at age 13 years in 1887 and retired from the same pit in 1938 at 64 .. he died 3 months later …

    I started down the pit in the 1970’s, shortly after turning 16. There were a few trade apprentices who would only just have turned 15.

    Dying shortly after retirement was sadly very common – for some reason particularly for Deputies and Overmen. Retirements were usually somber affairs.


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  45. Dover.
    Can we have a separate thread for those who prefer to run the vax debate on “memes and feelz”, and another thread for those who are trying to glean some facts through the smoke and mirrors.
    Thanks.


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  46. Wasn’t there a change some years ago to low sulphur diesel that likewise has poor lubricity?

    Yes, in conventional diesel the sulphur content provides the necessary lubricity, in ULSD it is achieved with an additive package.

    No free lunch!

    Fuel / Lubricant/ Engine interactions can be incredibly complex. Particularly as the starting point for most combinations was “because it works”. eg. Volatiles in Jet A1 are necessary for high altitude engine re-light, but this property is not directly tested, it just all works provided you take crude and run it through normal processes. Synthetic Jet into conventional Jet is limited to 50% because the synthetic processes don’t produce many, if any, volatiles.


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  47. Anon Q&A was sent out from the CEO. In one question a Concerned Karen openly stated that he/she knows that there are unvaccinated people in the their team, and does not want to be in the office with unvaccinated people and they should not be allowed on site, so what are you going to do about it.

    CEO gave a gentle rebuff about everyone going back to the office on Dec 1. But tellingly didn’t pull the Karen up on the rank bigotry and definite breach of the ‘workplace behaviour’ policies that everyone just endured 1.5 hours on which makes clear that any sort of judgmental attitude to anyone about anything at work or at home was a hanging offense.

    Remember bullying isn’t what you intend, it’s what the victim perceives, they drill into everyone in every globohomo corp in the world.

    Presumably that is, unless you’re a normal human being amongst the spike protein brigades. Then it’s game on.


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  48. If someone is too frightened to return to work, they can always have the option of staying home and working from there.

    I’m sure she’d get over her fear after a few weeks.


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  49. Americans are seeing what happens when a bunch of radicals, who’ve never run anything more sophisticated than a hate campaign on Twitter, are allowed to run the country – and it’s the left who are terrified by their own incompetence.

    Tucker Carlson Tonight on the collapsing black-is-white propaganda campaign by the faceless anti-American Marxists running the Biden White House.


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  50. Synthetic Jet into conventional Jet is limited to 50% because the synthetic processes don’t produce many, if any, volatiles

    Now that I didn’t know.

    However, if your 1 megalitre of JP4/JP5 can be successfully mixed into 1 megalitre of Fischer-Tropff ersatz kerosene (from your own coal reserves) to fly your wing of bombers halfway round the world and back and/or keep your armoured division rolling (or even just keep your civil aviation industry in the go-juice for a few months), then the economy is pretty good. And well worth the strategic impost.


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  51. “Americans are seeing what happens when a bunch of radicals, who’ve never run anything more sophisticated than a hate campaign on Twitter, are allowed to run the country – and it’s the left who are terrified by their own incompetence.”

    Perfect Tom.


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  52. Can we have a separate thread for those who prefer to run the vax debate on “memes and feelz”, and another thread for those who are trying to glean some facts through the smoke and mirrors.

    The mass debate is over with the announcement that getting the virus means that you won’t get the virus!
    Link


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  53. Knuckle Draggersays:
    October 14, 2021 at 2:16 pm
    letting two Ex-gay men speak for Catholicism

    Uh. What?

    Michael Voris & Milo Yiannopoulos.
    Both were, are no longer, gay.

    Milo cold never bring himself to reject God even when at his most debauched.

    Michael had a harder, longer time coming back to The Church.
    He also helped Milo when all the other ‘good Christians’ had washed their hands of Milo.


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  54. I’m sure she’d get over her fear after a few weeks.

    Meh. Karen was just having a good little virtue signal and public ego-stroke at everyone else’s expense (I just hope she cleaned up the result of her forelock-tugging afterwards).

    As such, a public ego-checking (no matter how richly deserved) would not have been politic. But everyone now knows (or is suitably reminded) to watch out for Karen in case she goes full Ham on them and lets her Neuroses take flight…


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  55. Bruce of Newk, did the climate models fail to predict global stilling or did the wind generation spivs ignore the science?

    The models predict nothing. Climate science is astrology rebadged. A while back there was a discussion about the warming of the oceans. The alarmists said is was due to CO2 infrared radiation warming them. Someone pointed out that IR CANNOT penetrate the ocean skin. So the alarmists then decided that increasing wind speeds were happening which disrupted the ocean skin allowing IR to enter the ocean and do its warming magic. But then new papers came out showing winds were not increasing but declining, stilling, so the mechanism of wind speeds could not do what the alarmists said it was doing:

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0022169411007487


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  56. Social reform in parliamentary democracies was always incremental.

    The Emancipation Proclamation freed not one slave at the time.

    The alternative is revolution, which has an even worse track record.


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  57. Some doors^ just have to be gone through.

    Michael had a harder, longer time coming back to The Church.

    Ahem. *clears throat*

    PHRASING.

    ^Back doors. Also PHRASING.


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  58. Great.

    After years of silence the IPA has suddenly sprung into action and wants me to something something Peter Ridd.

    Ok dickheads, how about you talk to your liberal party dickhead mates about it at the next cocktail party.


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  59. Our society was doomed a long time ago, it’s just taken this long to realise.

    “When you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing – When you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors – When you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don’t protect you against them, but protect them against you – When you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice – You may know that your society is doomed.” – Ayn Rand


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  60. I have no doubt that Viva & Barnes wanted to talk to her as she was in DC on Jan 6th doing live crosses for a range of internet based media.
    Viva definitely didn’t realise she swears like a stevedore.


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  61. “Great.

    After years of silence the IPA has suddenly sprung into action and wants me to something something Peter Ridd.

    Ok dickheads, how about you talk to your liberal party dickhead mates about it at the next cocktail party.”

    I’ve noticed that too. Roskam has been on Sky a lot lately bemoaning the Scumbag Morrison government and its refusal to speak up about free speech, religious liberty etc. Funny though, I remember early last year when Roskam and the IPA refused to speak up* and support Bettina Arndt when she was lynched by frenzied far-left progressive mobs and was the subject of a senate censure, supported by every fucking Liberal and National senator. Bettina received more help from the UK’s Free Speech Union (run by Toby Young) than the IPA. So Roskam and the IPA can be quite selective about free speech.

    * I know this for a fact.


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  62. There’s a lot of interesting detail at P’s link – St. Michael’s Media offered to pull Milo & Steve Bannon from the Prayer Rally but the Judge said they didn’t have to.

    https://apnews.com/article/business-media-religion-beda9f28fa619f3e07882fcc1a5588eb

    FILE – Fr. Paul Kalchik, left, St. Michael’s Media founder and CEO Michael Voris, center, and Milo Yiannopoulos talk with a court officer before entering the federal courthouse, Sept. 30, 2021 in Baltimore.

    A federal judge has blocked Baltimore city officials from banning the conservative Roman Catholic media outlet from holding a prayer rally at a city-owned pavilion during a U.S. bishops’ meeting next month.

    U.S. District Judge Ellen Hollander ruled late Tuesday, Oct. 13, 2021 that St. Michael’s Media is likely to succeed on its claims that the city discriminated against it on the basis of its political views and violated its First Amendment free speech rights. (AP Photo/Gail Burton, file)


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  63. The south pole just posted its coldest April-September since records began in 1957.

    The report assures me that this is just an example of how natural variability can mask long term climate change.


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  64. That was a broken piano …
    When I heard it on the wireless this morning, I was reminded of some bloke who had two older brothers who were Birdies on The Can Opener.
    In one exciting week, one had a cold shot in an A4 and caught a Sea King back to the boat.
    The other was flying a Sea King when it decided to do what SH-3s do best when they stop working over water.
    As the youngest was notoriously uncoordinated, nobody was the slightest bit surprised at the suggestion of luck being genetic.


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  65. Gab

    Also at the link, explains how many of them are related. It’s like we’re been ruled by inbreds.

    Inbreds? Australia’s so-called “political elite” makes the Royals look positively broad minded!


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  66. This from those who delight in telling cats what others say, mean & believe, isn’t what others say, mean & believe, because they know they’ll be praised for telling cats what other’s, ‘really say, mean & believe’ –

    feelthebernsays:
    October 14, 2021 at 3:22 pm
    The power of prayer can only do so much.
    Milo is gay.

    Knuckle Draggersays:
    October 14, 2021 at 3:24 pm

    Some doors^ just have to be gone through.

    Michael had a harder, longer time coming back to The Church.

    Ahem. *clears throat*

    PHRASING.

    ^Back doors. Also PHRASING.

    feelthebern says:
    October 14, 2021 at 3:25 pm
    That’s some quality work there KD.

    So many Christians here, so many Catholics, but rather than Thank God for His Grace, they stay silent when It’s mocked.


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  67. “We’re all in this together” has not been discarded, it was just a beta test as part of the world-wide gaslighting going on. For example,
    Scott Morrison has issued a rallying cry for the nation to address the challenge of climate change “together”, saying reducing emissions is now a question of “how, not if”.
    (pinched from C.L.’s site)


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  68. The power of prayer can only do so much.
    Milo is gay.

    Did he say he was no longer same-sex attracted? Or that he had renounced the lifestyle like Christopher Pearson.

    Besides if he is sincere in his Catholicism then the task of reconciling his inclinations with his faith is up to him and God. If at the same time he is encouraging Christian teaching and defending the Church then we might consider there is a place for him.

    But perhaps that is just my secular self trying to apply secular notions onto religious matters, and I prefer to avoid that sort of thing. When someone wishes to ‘demonstrate’ the inadequacy of faith to explain matters of logic they invariably set it logic tests and never really venture into whether logic can account for the experiences of faith.


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  69. The ABC has today referred to the president of the QLD AMA as the state’s “top doctor”.

    Jeanette Young will be miffed.

    Anyway, while he’s a covid worrier and a vaccine pusher he did have some sound advice for Palaszczuk:

    For the sake of the economy & the tourism sector in particular, she has to set an opening date for the state and soon.


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  70. So many Christians here, so many Catholics, but rather than Thank God for His Grace, they stay silent when It’s mocked.

    You might want to be mighty careful throwing such accusations and aspersions about…

    Keep your own nose clean, srr. That’s your responsibility between Him and you. Just as it is for each and every one of the rest of us in our turn.

    You leave Him sort out the rest. No matter how hard you want to strike out.


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  71. Bruce of Newk, did the climate models fail to predict global stilling

    Nice paradox. If globule worming causes great stilling why are they building all these windmills?


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  72. BoM has upgraded this brewing storm.
    First RED rating I’ve seen for NSW in a couple of years.

    They have a yellow/amber/red/black rating system.
    Could get narley.


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  73. “Did he say he was no longer same-sex attracted?

    No, he has never said that.

    Or that he had renounced the lifestyle like Christopher Pearson.

    Yes, that’s my understanding. And if that is what makes him happy and brings some stability to his life, then good on him. But Milo is gay.


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  74. Good luck rickw.
    Hopefully this bullshit will pass or be tipped over.

    Likewise. I suspect it will join all these teachers and public servants with carpal tunnel syndrome on long term sick leave in a couple of years. Hold on to your gel mouse pad.


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  75. So many Christians here, so many Catholics

    For those unaware, the RCC is currently doing a plenary council, which has been setup (get it?) to make changes to the faith in Australia. Primarily looking at teachings on married priests, female priests, environmental faith etc… it is a crock of shite that the RCC set it up in the first place because it is doomed to fail as there is no such thing as the Australian Catholic Church. I have no idea why they don’t take things more seriously like supporting Christian families, children, proper teaching etc… nope… crickets.

    *I remain a Roman Catholic and intend to do so.


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  76. stay silent when It’s mocked

    If this is going to be about the Stephen King novel, leave me out of it.

    Although there is an interesting question about Pennywise’s sexuality.


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  77. Zipster says:
    October 14, 2021 at 3:39 pm

    They Were Planning This All Along! | Aldous Huxley & The Fabian Society
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azDg7L-dFdw

    And there has always been counters to it.

    Eugenics and Other Evils:
    An Argument Against the Scientifically Organized State

    by G.K. Chesterton, Michael W. Perry (Editor)
    In the second decade of the twentieth century, an idea became all too fashionable among those who feel it is their right to set social trends.
    Wealthy families took it on as a pet cause, generously bankrolling its research.
    The New York Times praised it as a wonderful “new science.”
    Scientists, such as the brilliant plant biologist, Luther Burbank, praised it unashamedly.
    Educators as prominent as Charles Elliot, President of Harvard University, promoted it as a solution to social ills. America’s public schools did their part. In the 1920s, almost three-fourths of high school social science textbooks taught its principles.

    Not to be outdone, judges and physicians called for those principles to be enshrined into law.
    Congress agree, passing the 1924 immigration law to exclude from American shores the people of Eastern and Southern Europe that the idea branded as inferior.

    In 1927, the U. S. Supreme Court joined the chorus, ruling by a lopsided vote of 8 to 1 that the sterilization of unwilling men and women was constitutional.

    That idea was eugenics and in the English-speaking world it had virtually no critics among the “chattering classes.”

    When he wrote this book, Chesterton stood virtually alone against the intellectual world of his day. Yet to his eternal credit, he showed no sign of being intimidated by the prestige of his foes.
    On the contrary, he thunders against eugenics, ranking it one of the great evils of modern society. And, in perhaps one of the most chillingly accurate prophecies of the century, he warns that the ideas that eugenics had unleashed were likely to bear bitter fruit in another nation.
    That nation was Germany, the “very land of scientific culture from which the ideal of a Superman had come.”

    In fact, the very group that Nazism tried to exterminate, Eastern European Jews, and the group it targeted for later extermination, the Slavs, were two of those whose biological unfitness eugenists sought so eagerly to confirm.
    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/184421.Eugenics_and_Other_Evils

    Eugenics and Other Evils by G. K. Chesterton – FULL Audiobook | Free Audiobooks
    [timestamped to each Part & Chapter]
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0PnObznbDs

    Most Eugenists are Euphemists. I mean merely that short words startle them, while long words soothe them. And they are utterly incapable of translating the one into the other, however obviously they mean the same thing.
    Say to them “The persuasive and even coercive powers of the citizen should enable him to make sure that the burden of longevity in the previous generation does not become disproportionate and intolerable, especially to the females”; say this to them and they will sway slightly to and fro like babies sent to sleep in cradles.
    Say to them “Murder your mother,” and they sit up quite suddenly.
    Yet the two sentences, in cold logic, are exactly the same.”


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  78. First RED rating I’ve seen for NSW in a couple of years.

    Broke over Fairfield about 10 minutes ago .. very dark, cooled down a few degrees, lotza noise but only light rain ……….


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  79. srr, stop being an idiot.
    Apply some critical thinking.
    Milo has loved cock all his life.

    Yeah, but his road wasn’t longer and harder, like the other bloke’s. His road was definitely longer and harder.

    Probably dirt too, at least in part.


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  80. Watching the storm band on Windy.com. Big stuff going on over at Penrith, heading straight for the CBD and ES.

    Lots happening in the Illawarra and Newcastle, too. Missed me completely. The wind is turning here to ENE.


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  81. However, I also agree with Rosie that it is a leap of logic to assume that all eleven dead were vaxed in the absence of evidence.

    Not sure I would describe it as a leap of logic. More of a working assumption.


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  82. In line with the insurance companies not paying business continuity insurance caused by lockdowns, they have announced today they will not be paying out on hail damage caused by storms on the 14th of each month.
    Just because.


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  83. Primarily looking at teachings on married priests, female priests, environmental faith etc

    Sounds like they’re looking to bring in bells and smells Anglicans fleeing the rude uncouth bible teaching Sydney Diocese.


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  84. I have no idea why they don’t take things more seriously like supporting Christian families, children, proper teaching etc… nope… crickets.

    Taken over from within by the long marchers, Lysander.


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  85. Scott Morrison has issued a rallying cry for the nation to address the challenge of climate change “together”, saying reducing emissions is now a question of “how, not if”.
    BRADBURY has reached the point of being able to say anything .. he ain’t gonna be around to implement any of it .. it’s amazing how often the ball-less want to grow a pair when it doesn’t matter anymore..!


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  86. Yeah Roger.. it’s a shit-show and will only result in bad press…

    And Bruce, those reforms did no “wonders” for the Anglicans… beggars belief!


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  87. Scott Morrison has issued a rallying cry for the nation to address the challenge of climate change “together”, saying reducing emissions is now a question of “how, not if”

    Can we reduce politicians’ emissions instead? I know where to order some big rubber bungs.

    Nothing much is happening. Sea ice is increasing, the snow line hasn’t moved on average this century and extreme weather is less extreme than it used to be.


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  88. I have a feeling the ‘liberals’ have already conceded the next election and so are going to spend the next six months looting, burning, laying back and thinking of Britain (Washington?) and Malcolm Frasering their way into lifetime sinecures in teh new world order technocracy and zero emission ‘economy’ from here on out.

    Not that they couldn’t win it, I think they don’t want to win it.

    In line with my theory that both major parties – now empty of actual spiritual animation, don’t really get the point in being in government anymore other than dolling out favours to their patrons. Otherwise opposition is a fine life for both.


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  89. And Bruce, those reforms did no “wonders” for the Anglicans… beggars belief!

    Several sociological studies have demonstrated the connection between women’s ordination and accelerating mainstream church decline. It’s called the feminisation thesis. In the US there is now have five decades of data since one or two of the large Lutheran church synods ordained women in 1970.


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  90. feelthebernsays:
    October 14, 2021 at 4:23 pm
    Plenary council.
    FMD.
    You could only imagine the virtue signalling, holier than thou types participating in that shit show.

    Haven’t heard from Numbers for a while?


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  91. Roger I knew it was toxic back then, even as a young teenager.

    I like my Christianity muscular. Ladies can always supply the feminine side with tea and scandal if they so desire.


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  92. I have a feeling the ‘liberals’ have already conceded the next election

    Well one really exceptionally moronic way to guarantee that is to adopt stupid zero emissions and therefore see what’s left of your base head disgustedly out the door.

    The poll numbers in the US are clear as crystal: righties think climate change is absolute rubbish. I don’t know what the polling is here since I haven’t seen any detailed numbers since I used to look at Essential several years ago. They are lefties so I doubt they’ve been asking such questions. Certainly I can recall any significant media articles reporting poll numbers on this topic.


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  93. NT boasts of strictest vaccine mandate in the country:

    Chief Minister Michael Gunner has announced that nearly all Territorians will need to get vaccinated by November 12, or possibly lose their jobs and be fined $5000 as of November 13, under the strictest vaccine mandate rules in the country.

    The new health direction will require employers to request proof of vaccination and also requires employers to keep a register of all staff member’s vaccinations.

    Mr Gunner said there would be “circumstances where people won’t need to get vaccinated” but that “most people know we are a very small jurisdiction, most people in the Northern Territory are one degree away from a vulnerable person.”

    A full list of occupations – both private and public – was not released by the government until now:

    Workers who are likely to come into contact with a vulnerable person:
    Workers who work with children, such as teachers, child care workers, tutors, gym coaches and swimming instructors
    Workers who work with disabled persons, elderly persons or other persons vulnerable to infection with COVID-19, such as legal service providers, disability care workers and personal carers
    Workers who directly face customers or patients in health care and ancillary health care services
    Workers who work in a community consisting of mostly Aboriginal people (including family outstations and town camps)
    Workers who provide community services
    Workers who directly face customers in retail services, financial or hospitality industries and other service industries.
    People who work in the construction industry who could come into contact with vulnerable people.
    Workers who are at risk of infection with COVID-19 because they, during the course of work, are likely to come into contact with a person or thing that poses a risk of infection:
    Health care workers in hospitals and emergency departments
    Police and emergency service workers
    Workers in quarantine facilities or other quarantine places
    Border control workers;
    Workers at other places to which symptomatic people may go, such as medical clinics, respiratory clinics and pharmacies.
    Workplaces that pose a high risk of infection with COVID-19, including the following:
    Correction and detention facilities
    Shelters for persons experiencing homelessness or other forms of adversity
    Mining sites
    Food processing and distribution facilities
    Cold storage facilities and abattoirs
    Cruise vessels as defined in direction 5 of the COVID-19 Directions (No. 5) 2021.
    Workers who perform work that is necessary for the operation or maintenance of essential infrastructure or essential logistics in the Territory, including:
    Electricity generation facilities, electricity networks and electrical installations
    Liquid natural gas and other gas facilities
    Water supply and distribution infrastructure
    Sewerage treatment facilities
    Telecommunications systems
    Roads
    COVID-19 emergency operations centre.

    https://ntindependent.com.au/full-list-of-workers-mandated-to-be-vaccinated-by-next-month-released/?utm_source=News+NTIndependent&utm_campaign=07c21cc4d4-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2021_10_14_05_12&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_02f6a86071-07c21cc4d4-202986267


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  94. Ladies can always supply the feminine side with tea and scandal if they so desire.

    Don’t care about the tea and scandal. Where the bloody hell are my scones and jam and cream, and my bloody sammich, woman?


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  95. Chief Minister Michael Gunner has announced that nearly all Territorians will need to get vaccinated by November 12, or possibly lose their jobs an

    TE ,
    doesn’t the NT already struggle finding workers and backpackers were a large portion of the workforce?


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  96. I had a guy, an immigrant, ask if having the labor party in government in Canberra would have meant an easier time for Melbourne. He’s most upset that he arrived here and immediately got locked up in a police state nightmare worse than what he left.

    An interesting question. I think most definitely yes for various reasons: Federal Labor would have kicked Andrews backside because the Labor party hate federation and hate the states having any power at all – recall the Rudd / Keneally feud. Andrews probably wouldn’t have imprisoned Victoria so savagely to prove some point politically, and the liberals are infinitely better in as opposition than government, so are conservatives for that matter, sadly.


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  97. and the liberals are infinitely better in as opposition than government, so are conservatives for that matter, sadly.

    Stix, you’re hallucinating if you believe that, but I bet you don’t and just said it to illicit a response. Don’t come back and tell me the libs are horrible. In this context we’re evaluating in relative terms and not absolute.


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  98. Eyrie says:
    October 14, 2021 at 4:58 pm

    The NT and ACT should never have been given self government.

    The opposite is most certainly true for NT, you thoughtless imbecile.


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  99. Surely the NT, being merely a territory of the commonwealth government is much more exposed to the constitution in regards to legal challenges, etc.

    Also what of the much vaunted ‘medical conscription’ clause, Latham was going on about that, when will we see a challenge on those grounds? Similar to how schools probably won’t risk kicking off an exodus into home and correspondence schooling by mandating ‘jabs’, I get the feeling the Commonwealth doesn’t really want to risk losing a case on mandatory vaccinations as it will risk collapsing the entire ‘no jab no play’ dickhead system it has carefuly setup over the last 15 years.


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  100. Chief Minister Michael Gunner has announced that nearly all Territorians will need to get vaccinated by November 12, or possibly lose their jobs

    It will be interesting…

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-14/nt-education-union-vaccine-mandate/100537500

    Education unions are concerned the NT government’s COVID-19 vaccine mandate will lead to worker shortages in schools, after a survey revealed about one-sixth of teaching staff do not intend to get vaccinated.



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  101. Eyriesays:
    October 14, 2021 at 4:58 pm
    The NT and ACT should never have been given self government.

    Having lived in the ACT, all it needed was a mayor.


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  102. As such, a public ego-checking (no matter how richly deserved) would not have been politic. But everyone now knows (or is suitably reminded) to watch out for Karen in case she goes full Ham on them and lets her Neuroses take flight…

    Anything and everything which comes out of their mouths is prefaced with, “I have concerns …”
    Used to work with a bloke who was quite fond of “having concerns”.
    One day during a particularly long and tedious management meeting which everyone was desparately trying to wrap up, he launched it for the 658th time.
    “I have concerns …”
    The bloke next to me muttered in a stage whisper, “You always fucking do.”
    Even the fairly straight-laced boss had to bite his lip.


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  103. JC

    Stix, you’re hallucinating if you believe that, but I bet you don’t and just said it to illicit a response. Don’t come back and tell me the libs are horrible. In this context we’re evaluating in relative terms and not absolute.

    The Liberals are horrible, Nationals are ludicrous, Labor is appalling and the Slime would be catastrophic, if you want it in relative terms.


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  104. Getting workers into the NT in any area has always been a challenge.

    Also keeping them here once they have arrived.

    In the 1980s it was a case of “how long are you here for” at parties. The implication was no-one in their right mind would stay.

    The other day one of the swisher waterfront food and drink venues announced it would close two days a week for lack of staff. The police force is apparently going through a continuing spate of resignations. As for teachers and nurses, they are also rumoured to be going and going in greater numbers.


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  105. Scott Morrison has issued a rallying cry for the nation to address the challenge of climate change “together”, saying reducing emissions is now a question of “how, not if”.

    Big ScoMo is a complete retail politician; no foundational principles and shaped by the last thing that touched him.

    On Zero Emissions, he’s just had his fortune read by the Biden Administration and Bozza – plus a violent wedgie from the EU. The message: ‘We’re all betting our economies on this renewables stuff; any free-range crap from a G7+1 member will not be rewarded at all well. Capiche?

    For Morrison, conversion on the Road to Glasgow is politically convenient. And that’s all.

    It’s a fig leaf to avoid pre-election finger-wagging humiliation at COP-26, all the way from Mutti to the President of Rutabaga. Done sincerely enough it might even attract plaudits from Gropey Joe, or some EU grandee.

    Better still, it kicks the ground out from the ALP’s campaign – and leaves them having to provide detail of their ‘Zero By 2035’ strategy.

    The cost to Australia of all this desperate fluffing and ad hoccing doesn’t register. We’ve all got used to unbudgeted $100 billions flying out of the door.


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  106. Chinese military planners have put together a playbook with four military campaigns for a potential invasion of Taiwan.

    We’ll
    Meet again
    Don’t know where
    Don’t know when


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  107. Where the bloody hell are my scones and jam and cream, and my bloody sammich, woman?

    The Beloved once thought he had a call to go into the ministry and made enquiries about Moore College.

    Thank goodness it was a wrong number! 😀


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  108. Also what of the much vaunted ‘medical conscription’ clause

    twostix, the question of the ban on medical conscription in the Constitution has been included in the arguments in the cases currently before the NSW Supreme Court.

    I’ve just had a look at the Supreme Court website the judgment in two of the cases: Kassam; Henry vs Hazzard is set down for 4pm tomorrow, Friday, 15/10/21.


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  109. feelthebernsays:
    October 14, 2021 at 3:54 pm

    srr, stop being an idiot.
    Apply some critical thinking.
    Milo has loved cock all his life.
    He aint changing now.

    The ‘news’ was so new to you, but you know better than he does himself and has gone to quite some detail in explaining.

    You’re just like so many who invent things about others to excuse your damning them, while excusing others for damnable things they do actually, boastfully say & do.


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  110. Stix, you’re hallucinating if you believe that, but I bet you don’t and just said it to illicit a response. Don’t come back and tell me the libs are horrible. In this context we’re evaluating in relative terms and not absolute.

    Nah I’m talking about effectiveness, not what is preferable.

    Liberals can’t achieve anything when they’re in government. They can barely stop the advance of their enemies.

    But when in opposition they’re an effective machine and quite capable of dismantling Labor.


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  111. areffsays:
    October 14, 2021 at 5:11 pm
    the liberals are infinitely better in as opposition

    Not something six million Victorians have noticed.

    And never, ever likely to.


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  112. I want to rant but that will just upset me.
    The stupid fat bitch deploying marxist doctors into schools to subvert parenthood is the final nail. The sewer is mainstream and universal now.
    Decisions made by scum who in a just world would not be allowed near children.
    This evil cannot be exceeded.


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  113. Liberals can’t achieve anything when they’re in government.

    This is true.

    Remember when Gillard was PM and the presstitutes gushed because she had passed seventy gazillion pieces of legislation?

    Libs can get hardly a (worthwhile) thing through.


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  114. Anything and everything which comes out of their mouths is prefaced with, “I have concerns …”

    lol close in this case it’s “I am not comfortable…”


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  115. Found out something interesting today.

    The virus is altitude activated.

    The golf club is resuming drinkies and the raffle tomorrow. You can sit with your playing buddies and drink…maskless. Stand up and move to the bar for another round…mask.

    Horrid little beastie! And clever!


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  116. Americans are seeing what happens when a bunch of radicals, who’ve never run anything more sophisticated than a hate campaign on Twitter, are allowed to run the country – and it’s the left who are terrified by their own incompetence.

    The old thief polluting the Whitehouse-another fucking lawyer- is of course just a figurehead. Nevertheless he is a loathsome, evil excuse for a man. A grub of the first order with zero accomplishments except taking kickbacks for him and his. When the lesbian bitch was running in 2016, Sally Miller said she didn’t trash in the Whitehouse. Well we sure have it now.


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  117. Rex Angersays:
    October 14, 2021 at 3:58 pm

    So many Christians here, so many Catholics, but rather than Thank God for His Grace, they stay silent when It’s mocked.

    You might want to be mighty careful throwing such accusations and aspersions about…

    Keep your own nose clean, srr. That’s your responsibility between Him and you. Just as it is for each and every one of the rest of us in our turn.

    You leave Him sort out the rest. No matter how hard you want to strike out.

    It was a statement of fact.

    Yet when all those (acceptable to you) Christians put in their their 2 bob’s worth on the duties & failings of Christians (as many often do), your oh so serious, superior admonishments are MIA.

    Don’t worry, I’m not the only one who gets it; we’re still not supposed to admit to the existence of, let alone great damage done by enemies of Christ within The Church, let alone acknowledge those who’ve escaped their soul crushing influence.

    No, we’re all just supposed to shut up and keep playing nice with those enemies. Like that’s worked for the last 50+ years … oh that’s right, it didn’t.


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  118. Dot says:
    October 14, 2021 at 5:36 pm

    Actually JC…AND twostix are both wrong.

    Morrison and Berejiklian may as well have been from the Gillard-Brown “alliance” government.

    They are objectively worse!

    Dot, that’s not a fair comparison and in fact it’s objectionably dishonest.

    Morrison should be compared to Tits Shorten and the Armenian gal to the Hunchback. You can’t compare Scotty from Marketing to the Lying Slapper as that was so long ago.


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  119. The ‘news’ was so new to you, but you know better than he does himself and has gone to quite some detail in explaining.

    It wasn’t news to me.
    Several months ago, that rascal Anthony Cumia interviewed Milo as he was packing up to leave NY.
    You probably aren’t aware but Milo used to be on Compound Media with Gavin before they set up their own thing.
    Twas a delightful interview with Anthony saying “So Milo, do you miss the cock?”.
    Other highlights were Anthony asking Milo were his motives pure in regards to setting up a pray away the gay centre in Miami (Florida not Ohio).
    But you’d know all about that don’t you?


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  120. H B Bearsays:

    October 14, 2021 at 4:10 pm

    However, I also agree with Rosie that it is a leap of logic to assume that all eleven dead were vaxed in the absence of evidence.

    Not sure I would describe it as a leap of logic. More of a working assumption.

    That’s kind of what I said.
    When they omit a stat which they had been running in support of the “pandemic of the unvaxxed” slogan, you are entitled to speculate, that is true.
    What was the real breakdown of the eleven deaths?
    A majority vaxed?
    7-4?
    9-2?
    Who knows?
    But suddenly someone postulated here yesterday that it was 11-zip, and that became fact.
    The stuff Mater has been posting is invaluable, because it draws heavily on Government data.
    If your objective is to sway a “StandWifDan” type, that is a good place to start, because they can’t really argue with the baseline data.
    Starting the debate with “A guy on Catallaxy reckons …” really doesn’t get you far.


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  121. feelthebernsays:

    October 14, 2021 at 4:23 pm

    Plenary council.
    FMD.
    You could only imagine the virtue signalling, holier than thou types participating in that shit show.

    Private Spud claimed to be on a Plenary Council, so yeah, holier than thou.


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  122. Dot, that’s not a fair comparison and in fact it’s objectionably dishonest.

    Morrison should be compared to Tits Shorten and the Armenian gal to the Hunchback. You can’t compare Scotty from Marketing to the Lying Slapper as that was so long ago.

    No. It is not only correct, it oozes with honesty.

    Morrison and Berejiklian are much worse than Gillard and Brown.

    Gillard and Brown never locked up millions under house arrest over a virus that causes the on cold.

    Only a psychopath would even dream of that.


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  123. After the Milo interview ended (Milo Skyped in) Cumia says to the camera “Of all the places in the US to set up a pray away the gay centre, Milo had to pick Miami…..” followed by knowing looks to the camera & a big, exaggerated wink.


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  124. One thing I have looked for but have had no luck finding anything meaningful, is for each vaccine, how long post the second jab is the point in time the producer deems you vaccinated.
    It has to be measured in days, but why can no one agree?


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  125. Top Endersays:
    October 14, 2021 at 4:43 pm
    NT boasts of strictest vaccine mandate in the country:

    Chief Minister Michael Gunner has announced that nearly all Territorians will need to get vaccinated by November 12, or possibly lose their jobs and be fined $5000 as of November 13, under the strictest vaccine mandate rules in the country.

    I didn’t see parliamentarians, parliamentary staff or electorate office staff in that list. Or union industrial officers. Did I miss them?


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  126. For the sake of the economy & the tourism sector in particular, she [Palaszczuk] has to set an opening date for the state and soon.

    Too Late! After the global vids of Andrews’ and Berejiklian’s Storm Troopers beating up old ladies and hauling away in paddy wagons someone who dared to sit on the beach maskless … shooting and gassing protesters, and jailing journalists …

    WHO WOULD DARE TO COME TO AUSTRALIA?

    [Oh yeah … the HC proved that Ridd was wrong and the GBR is now a lost cause and will never recover – so there is no point in seeing that bleached out mess]


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  127. Well another nail in the job coffin.

    2nd doc seen today, wouldnt fill in the exemption but quite candid that any docs that did could expect a “please explain” for every single one.

    Good conversation, know him quite well, and he was ‘i cant give you advice, but if i were you”…
    He also informed me 2 docs in Feraldton had surrendered their registrations over the issue.

    I was quite forthright in why, that I consider compulsory medical treatments for this illness as morally repugnant and an awful abuse of power.

    Doesnt really help me though..

    And for anyone hoping Steiner is coming with the HRC fuggeddubouit…
    https://humanrights.gov.au/about/covid19-and-human-rights/covid-19-vaccinations-and-federal-discrimination-law

    Section 48 of the Disability Discrimination Act 1992 (Cth) (DDA) provides that it is not unlawful for a person to discriminate against another person on the basis of disability — either directly or indirectly — if the person’s disability is an infectious disease and the discrimination is reasonably necessary to protect public health.
    The exemption in section 48 of the DDA clearly applies to people who have a disability that is an infectious disease. ‘Infectious disease’ is not defined in the DDA but it appears likely that it would apply to COVID-19, as it has been accepted as applying to other transmissible viruses such as HIV.

    In considering the application of the section 48 exemption in relation to COVID-19, a court would need to consider whether the relevant conduct was ‘reasonably necessary’ to protect public health. The existence of the COVID-19 pandemic, and information and advice from public health bodies such as the Australian Health Protection Principal Committee, would likely be relevant to any consideration of what was ‘reasonably necessary’ conduct.

    The exemption in section 48 of the DDA may also extend to people who are not vaccinated against COVID-19 (see Beattie (on behalf of Kiro and Lewis Beattie) v Maroochy Shire Council [1996] HREOCA 40 (20 December 1996)).

    However, as judicial consideration has not been given to the application of section 48 of the DDA to unvaccinated people, it is strongly encouraged that anyone seeking to rely upon the exemption in relation to mandatory COVID-19 vaccinations seek legal advice.

    Apparently being potentially infected with covid is the same as ACTUALLY HAVING AIDs….

    Being “pre-infectious” with a generally short term, 99% survivable condition is the same as a long term condition requiring tens of thousands of dollars to treat each year.
    Thats from the best brains in the human rights field.

    Its a rationale which, in sane times, would have a truck driven through it.


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  128. twostixsays:

    October 14, 2021 at 5:43 pm

    Anything and everything which comes out of their mouths is prefaced with, “I have concerns …”

    lol close in this case it’s “I am not comfortable…”

    All variations on a theme:-
    “I have concerns …”
    “I am not comfortable …”
    “There are issues …”
    “I am wondering if …”
    “Just playing devil’s advocate …”


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  129. Gillard and Brown never locked up millions under house arrest over a virus that causes the on cold.

    C’mon, man. They would’ve if they could’ve.


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  130. Jobs.
    Who fucking needs them anyway.
    Once this all blows to smithereens the dickheads will be crawling to get productive workers.
    And by that time most of you guys will l have figured out your own gigs and can politely tell them to take a step back and go bum themselves.


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  131. Bruce O’Newk:

    Sure enough, the Democrat-dominated Fairfax Board of Supervisors has asked Gov. Ralph Northam to waive the witness signature requirement that Virginia law stipulates for all absentee ballots.

    With the level of corruption in the voting process, perhaps it’s time for a US Partition.
    The Democrats have made the nation ungovernable.


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  132. Heres how the HRC has spung into action over the lockdown and ordering of millions of Australians be subjected to a medical procedure (in defiance of all medical ethics) which, at best provides a 50% effectiveness against a 99% survivable virus.

    https://humanrights.gov.au/about/covid19-and-human-rights/what-commission-doing-during-covid-19
    COVID-19 reports
    The Commission has developed reports on COVID-19 human rights related issues, including:

    Management of COVID-19 risks in immigration detention (2021)
    Guidelines on the rights of people with disability in health and disability care during COVID-19
    Impacts of COVID-19 on children and young people who contact Kids Helpline.

    But dont worry, they have had other more important issues to deal with…

    Our usual work continues
    The Commission has also continued its usual work throughout COVID-19, with several major projects, including:

    an Independent Review into Commonwealth Parliamentary Workplaces
    an independent review of Gymnastics in Australia
    the Human Rights and Technology final report
    developing a National Anti-Racism Framework
    a nationwide elder abuse awareness campaign



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  133. A tweet just made by my local Federal Liberal member:

    Dr Fiona Martin
    @FionaMartinMP
    Climate change a key driver of youth suicidal behaviour new studies show. Increasing ambient temperature and humidity correlating with emergency presentations for self harm. Suicide is the leading cause of death in 15-24 olds in Australia. More to come. #climateformentalhealth

    And she claims to be a child psychologist

    The Liberals need to Rabz’ed, as a matter of urgency.


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  134. Makka:

    There’s a major economic shake-out in progress in China.

    So how’s that Centrally Planned Techno-aristocracy goin’ for ya, Xi?
    Ruling out the market and replacing it for your own, deliverin’ the goods?


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  135. feelthebernsays:

    October 14, 2021 at 5:58 pm

    Panzer…with regards to your post…I have concerns.

    OK, I hear your concerns and totally respect your position ‘bern.
    I am keen to address your concerns in the fullness of time, but to ensure we give them the focus they deserve, let’s just park them on the “parking lot” whiteboard* for now.
    .
    * Where all nuisance ideas go to die.
    .
    Another favourite tactic was to ask them to do a ten minute presentation on it at the next meeting.
    Then put it last on the agenda under “other business” and clog up the meeting with other shit to ensure time runs out. Being lazy pricks they very rarely do the prep anyway.


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  136. Milo* likes the spotlight. And what better way to be in the spotlight than as a gay man who has renounced his gayness.

    However…

    What he has done is probably one of the most difficult things anyone can do. A confirmed alcoholic renouncing drink is chickenfeed to this. It goes right down to who he is. The best he can hope for is celibacy.

    I hope he is successful and has a productive, happy life. His walk hereon will not be easy. He has my sincere admiration.

    * like Cher, there is only one


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  137. feelthebernsays:

    October 14, 2021 at 6:06 pm

    Pfft. I’ll see your “concerns” and raise you a “problematic”.

    Don’t make me say it…does this meet community standards?

    Yes, because that could adversely impact our … ta-dah … social license.


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  138. Why are all of these freaks in the private and public sector trying to cultivate support for mandatory vaccinations, when it isn’t law; it just baffles me.

    The RMS and some universities come to mind.


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  139. callisays:
    October 14, 2021 at 6:01 pm
    Panzer…with regards to your post…I have concerns.

    Pfft. I’ll see your “concerns” and raise you a “problematic”.

    Worse, I am “troubled” (h/t Ted Kennedy).


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  140. Winston

    With the level of corruption in the voting process, perhaps it’s time for a US Partition.

    The hysterical over-reaction to the election of DJT demonstrated that it has been time for a partition (preferably peaceful) since 2017.


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  141. Gillard and Brown never locked up millions under house arrest over a virus that causes the on cold.

    C’mon, man. They would’ve if they could’ve.

    they would’ve welded the doors shut


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  142. 104/(827-700)= .8189, to that many decimal places. Keep the change.

    *sigh*

    Just noticed this as I am not here all day. I’ve had my say, Timothy. I simply reiterate, I have never queried that number as suggesting an error. My mentioning seeing one linked commentary of unknown provenance trying to retro-fit similar data by confusing the study cohort with the contrast cohort, is not me querying that number. That number and its denominator is plainly abstractable by anyone from the study data.

    So please turn your attention to the fact that I know, and knew, that the denominator producing 81% derived from the detail in the study reporting. There had to be an internal error re this figure, suggesting as it did an unbelievable proportion of spontaneous abortions due to this vaxx in this limited cohort. This was noted in a letter to the NEJM, an error noted, and then corrected in the reporting. What I have stressed constantly, because pushed to it by you, is the irrelevance of this numerator and denominator to the later clarifying analysis. The question was always about sampling.

    I’ve already made perfectly plain that my main engagement here re this study was always in chasing down the real source of the error in the reportage, which turned out to be a differential between two separately extracted cohorts from the main date-timed sample of 3958 enrolled participants. I have offered all of the details about that revision in my analysis of what went wrong. Any sensible peer reviewer should have picked this up immediately. As I’ve said, the problem stemmed from a haste in racing to preliminary publication and a lot of missing data.

    My commentary at 9.53am today agreed with Gilas on the decline in reporting standards at the NEJM and at 10.02 I suggested that letting such reporting errors as in this study pass through pre-publication peer review would not have happened under the far more stringent standards used in the past.

    I intend to leave it at that, unless Timothy, you return once again to this, in which case I will simply refer readers back to this date and timeslot for my views. You and your followers can believe what you want, but I will always refer back in defense of my own integrity. I would have been most happy to leave it sometime early on yesterday, but you have been riding this one like a bronco.


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  143. Did anyone see the ICU stats that Credlin referred to at the start of her show?
    WTF has gone on in Victoria?
    There are less ICU beds in Victoria now, than there was pre COVID.


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  144. callisays:

    October 14, 2021 at 6:18 pm

    All variations on a theme:-

    Don’t forget the ever useful-

    “As a [insert interest group here]”

    Oh, boy, has that one been beaten to death lately, with the variant, “As a health care professional … “ usually as a pre-cursor to some grand epidemiological pronouncement.
    The best deflating response is, “So you’re a nurse, then?”


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  145. Once this all blows to smithereens the dickheads will be crawling to get productive workers.

    Oh my sweet summer child

    Once this all blows to smithereens the dickheads will be replacing obsolete & bankrupted Australian consumption units with “cert 4 steering wheel holding” hordes.


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  146. From Farmer Gez’s linky …

    Wonder why there’s data gaps?

    Hmm?


    DATE HOSP NONE PART FULL
    14 Oct 706 - - 10%
    13 Oct 705 - - 9%
    12 Oct 675 - - 7%
    11 Oct 677 - - -
    10 Oct 609 - - 7%
    09 Oct 578 65% 26% 8%
    08 Oct 620 66% 26% 8%



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  147. Makkasays:
    October 14, 2021 at 6:33 pm
    Having lived in the ACT, all it needed was a mayor.

    Another “CEO” on 400k pa.

    Compared to multiple “department heads” on rather more substantial remuneration?


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  148. Thanks bern.
    I don’t know because the government hasn’t said.

    As i mentioned the Victorian governments lack of transparency is in contrast to the NSW government.
    And you ignored my point, people jumped on this non information as proof the vaccine doesn’t work.
    Otherwise why make an issue of it?
    I do apologise for thinking it possible that perhaps a couple were unvaccinated, and it appears vic dhs have stopped providing this information for how long, weeks, should we now assume all covid deaths in Victoria are of the fully vaxxed?

    Meanwhile NSW’s four deaths yesterday were 50/50.


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  149. feelthebernsays:

    October 14, 2021 at 6:35 pm

    Panzer, I appreciate you acknowledging my truth.
    I look forward to you circling back to me.

    Be careful.
    Sometimes when circling back I have been known to back over people.


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  150. Once this all blows to smithereens the dickheads will be replacing obsolete & bankrupted Australian consumption units with “cert 4 steering wheel holding” hordes.

    In fact the the jobs will fall instantly into the quickly revised “skills shortage” basket , where they will be filled by mass produced our 457 visa sausage factory ( or equivalent) arriving by a convoy of Dreamliners operating 24/7 out of Bangalore,Chennai, Shanghai, Colkatta etc. Scummo will rescue Business, just like he is rescuing us from a global climate Armageddon.


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  151. Prince William slams Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk after William Shatner ‘space tourism’ saying ‘fix the planet first’

    Chip off the old block.
    I’m turning into a republican with serious rapidity.


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  152. Zipster says:
    October 14, 2021 at 6:45 pm

    Prince William slams Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk after William Shatner ‘space tourism’ saying ‘fix the planet first’

    How novel of the princess to make that very point we’ve been hearing since the moon landing. Like we’ve never heard it before. How about he tries to improve the world as he’s rich enough. Does he really need to live in such a big house? Does he need to use a private jet when careening around the world performing useless tasks?


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  153. Did anyone see the ICU stats that Credlin referred to at the start of her show?
    WTF has gone on in Victoria?
    There are less ICU beds in Victoria now, than there was pre COVID.

    I did see a report that Andrews promised $1.3b in mid-2020 for extra ICU beds but nothing has materialised since.

    Prior to that the Vic health system had been run down considerably by Labor.

    Regardless, it’s all Scott Morrison’s fault (much as I detest the man, he’s not responsible for state spending priorities).

    Incidentally, a similar situation prevails in NZ, where Ardern has been asleep at the wheel during covid, behind on both vaccinations and ICU beds and now conceding that Delta can’t be eliminated. A lot of obese people in NZ.


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  154. Prince William slams Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk after William Shatner ‘space tourism’ saying ‘fix the planet first’

    Prince William is paying for the terra-forming?

    that’s a lot of Cat D11’s


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  155. He also informed me 2 docs in Feraldton had surrendered their registrations over the issue.

    Mole – I think Perth ALPBC ran that as a Radio News item a couple of days ago. In a “Gee Whiz” sort of way.


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  156. A good article from one of the sidelinks.

    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/what-would-us-civil-war-look-like-malcom-kyeyune/

    One bit really resonated with me.
    The ABC as an occupying power…

    Today I was in the car driving back from Jimmy John’s, and I turned on NPR. There was a locally produced news show that had a feature about “pregnant people” and their “fetuses.” I finally got so angry I turned it off. Nothing new about that. But the thought that came into my head this time was that I had been listening to the radio of an occupying power, and I was sick of it. Again, I get that this is an ultra-bourgeois right-wing moment — middle-aged fat conservative rages at NPR in his Honda! — but something had flipped slightly in my usual rantiness. For what I think was the first time, I began to regard these people — the ruling class that runs NPR and all the institutions — as people who despise normal people so much that they are trying to colonize our culture.


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  157. Well I’m baffled why government depts and public institutions are kite flying for more restrictive mandates than the law demands.

    No one understands why?

    Very peculiar.


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  158. I have never queried that number as suggesting an error.

    In other words, I have always seen this number as indicating a problem with the study.

    As an additional note, I had hoped that taking the issue further, as initiated by Gilas, to a critique of the decline in epidemiological standards in the NEJM and The Lancet (two key medical serials), might has dispensed with this ongoing non-debate, done and dusted etc. by ten this morning.


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  159. Everyone adored Madge Von Romanov and hoped she would outlive Chuck Von Romanov.
    Then we hoped Madge would skip Chuck and handball to Will Von Romanov.
    Now we detest the whole crew and can start to understand why the dirty commies had no problem disposing the entire Russian branch of the crew.


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  160. Peter Ridd’s views on the Barrier Reef are ‘ unconventional.’

    Melbourne Law professors explain physics … gonna need another bag of anti-popcorn


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  161. feelthebernsays:

    October 14, 2021 at 6:41 pm

    Did anyone see the ICU stats that Credlin referred to at the start of her show?
    WTF has gone on in Victoria?
    There are less ICU beds in Victoria now, than there was pre COVID.

    Back last year they had 450.
    Mikakos promised $1.3 billion for 4,000 more, with Hunchback nodding by here side.
    He said they would take over the Exhibition Buildings or Jeff’s Shed if needed.
    Quick as a flash nothing happened.
    Hunchback denies ever having said and is now polishing his ScoMo begging bowl.


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  162. I’m turning into a republican with serious rapidity.

    Wills may be an idiot but he’s largely harmless and 17000km away most of the time.

    I prefer that to being regularly harangued by a president installed by the political caste.


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  163. H B Bear

    Thanks, i must have missed that one.

    Imagine crowing that people who spent upwards of 8 years getting the qualifications to do their highly skilled job are bending the knee when their livelihoods are threatened.
    AMA WA president Dr Mark Duncan-Smith said he was disappointed by the doctor’s decision.

    “It is disappointing that a healthcare professional looking at the evidence would come to the conclusion that they are not happy to be vaccinated but that is a personal choice,” Dr Duncan-Smith said.

    He said about 99.9 percent of Australian doctors had been vaccinated and it was better for vulnerable patients not to see a doctor who had not had the jab.
    The government has found a big button it can press to force compliance, who thinks they will ever let it go?
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-09/gp-aged-care-compulsory-vaccinations-midwest/100525982


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  164. But the thought that came into my head this time was that I had been listening to the radio of an occupying power, and I was sick of it.

    Had a similar discussion with Hairy today over lunch. TV was on. All the usual cultural propaganda and outright political messaging about learning to love them. Shall we turn it off? we asked each other simultaneously. Before we throw something at it?

    We have to learn to live separately from this or we will go under, we decided.


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