Open Thread- Mon 11 Oct 2021


Antigone with Polynices’ Body, Sebastien Norblin, 1825

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Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 13, 2021 7:40 pm

Lord TaliDan looked shifty and under pressure when questioned over this IBAC inquiry. Couldn’t quite get the turned eye lined up.

Let the Reaming of the Minions begin!
Patton, you’re up.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
October 13, 2021 7:40 pm

Indeed Roger especially Queensland and Victoria.

MatrixTransform
October 13, 2021 7:42 pm

Silver?

Every silver lining has a cloud

Roger
Roger
October 13, 2021 7:42 pm

Indeed Roger especially Queensland and Victoria.

Not to mention WA, as Bear reminded us (we east coasters tend to ignore the west).

cohenite
October 13, 2021 7:49 pm

They’re after Tommy Robinson again:

So you probably guessed correctly, I’m back in court today (shocking I know).

I’m in court because a certain left wing ‘journalist’ who writes for the not so ‘Independent’ Saudi owned national newspaper believes she can and should be treated differently to everyone else. You know, there’s not too much that surprises me any more, especially when it comes to our judicial system. The amount of times I have spoken to briefs who tell me ‘Tommy we have justice, we have the law, and we have decisions based on the fact you are Tommy Robinson’. It’s this kind of running joke now, I never expect to win anything. I had a glimmer of hope with the Jamal case but as usual, the system decided to rule that child witnesses were liars, and I lost my case, so go figure!!!

The ginger journalist ‘who should not be named’ actually said in court she believes I am responsible for what other people post online. For example, when I called her out for saying I ‘directly messaged’ Darren Osbourne, the man responsible for carrying out a terror attack on Muslims in Finsbury, THAT WAS A LIE. Some people on Twitter posted ‘hurty words’ in response to me calling out her LIES, and somehow she believes I am responsible for those people posting ‘hurty words’.

You couldn’t make it up could you? 

Maybe if she hadn’t LIED about me ‘directly messaging’ Darren Osbourne then she wouldn’t have received the responses she got???

But of course, the same rules shouldn’t apply to the ginger journalist. She actually said in court she doesn’t believe she is responsible for what other people post when they reply to her online drivel.

Like I said, you couldn’t make it up.

These type of soppy, soft, left wing journalists think they are a special breed deserving of special treatment. Rules for thee but not for me comes to mind.

Anyway, when I last tried to raise some funds for the legal team I had (who did a brilliant job by the way), lefties decided to kick off and the donorbox was taken down before I could raise enough to pay the full amount. Lefties love their lawfare and mass reporting. So, if you can, please donate to my fighting fund.

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Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 13, 2021 7:51 pm

Every Commissioner of VicPlod leaves under a cloud.

Well, duh!

Melbourne (and general Viktoristani) weather is infamously changeable.

4 seasons in a day, and 40+ with 98% humidity to single digits and 90-degree driving rain in the space of less than 30 minutes, and then back again (one of my more remarkable Puckapunyal-in-summer moments).

But remember that for each VikHydra head lopped, 5 more rise up to bite each other in its place…

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 13, 2021 7:53 pm

I suppose it is too much to hope that the whole IBAC thing might have inadvertently broken Sir Humphrey’s first rule… that you don’t have one unless you know the outcome?

Mark – The problem is that Labor thought it was safe under the Sir Humphrey rule. But as is usually the case with the ALP they have more skeletons than they have closets to hide them in. Which I think they’re now finding.

If somehow the Biden and Clinton families face the music the fireworks will light up the entire Solar System.

It won’t matter. The faceless Minister who resigned yesterday, whose name I can’t recall, and who I didn’t know existed until yesterday, is just the first of the sacrificial animals of no consequence.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 13, 2021 7:55 pm

Knuckle Draggersays:

October 13, 2021 at 7:22 pm

Any opposition worth their salt should be asking Patton to justify that in light of known facts.

Damn straight.

And adding a little rider, “Think carefully before you answer”, then get one of their off-reservation guys (Smith, Finn?) to drop hints about going to the election with a policy of superannuation forfeiture for misconduct in high office (covering the top three levels in the public service).

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 13, 2021 7:57 pm

H B Bearsays:

October 13, 2021 at 7:30 pm

Every Commissioner of VicPlod leaves under a cloud. 

Not entirely true.
They couldn’t find a cloud big enough for Christine.

Dot
Dot
October 13, 2021 7:57 pm

I can’t even…

*”Aliens” is rayyycist to real aliens ..*

https://youtu.be/70d5J8Sexv0

srr
srr
October 13, 2021 7:58 pm
Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 13, 2021 8:00 pm

(Really? You’d get fired for not following procedure – even if it wasn’t best practice?)

Welcome to the Public Service Dot.

Come for the steady pay and job security.

Stay because the shackles are damned heavy…

Dot
Dot
October 13, 2021 8:00 pm

Man beats off woman, walking her own dog, oppressing his right to have a wholesome wank in public.

https://youtu.be/uqbJnwvtqV8

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 13, 2021 8:00 pm

They couldn’t find a cloud big enough for Christine.

“I’m going to lunch. I may be some time.”

srr
srr
October 13, 2021 8:02 pm

Phil Collins, “In the air tonight” (First Farewell Tour)
45,988,836 views

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcvNpwS8hu8&list=RD1IBdZ645S-o&index=13

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 13, 2021 8:02 pm

Victoriastan presents as a classic Fitzgerald situation. Whatever thread you start pulling the whole thing unravels.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 13, 2021 8:03 pm

Welcome to the Public Service Dot.

Come for the steady pay and job security.

Stay because the shackles are damned heavy…

Okay, that was unnecessarily hyperbolic. But there are good reasons why the best and brightest who should be there and at the critical middle, upper and specialist positions burn out, punch out or (smartest of all) never seek such employment in the first place.

And mindlessly dogmatic insistence on unquestioning adherence to established or imposed procedure is but one of them…

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 13, 2021 8:04 pm

Man beats off woman

Did she consent?

More importantly, did he?

#Phrasing

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 13, 2021 8:12 pm

https://youtu.be/uqbJnwvtqV8

I rescind my levity- That’s actually pretty damned awful.

Incongruously and morbidly amusing, but awful.

srr
srr
October 13, 2021 8:15 pm

Project Veritas FIGHTS BACK And Trends On Twitter Despite Big Tech Censorship

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-80cXWE-pcE

Oct 12, 2021
Timcast IRL
1.09M subscribers
Tim, Luke, and Lydia join potential libertarian Georgian gubernatorial candidate Shane Hazel and investigative journalist James O’Keefe to break down how Project Veritas has managed to defeat Big Tech overlords.

Indolent
Indolent
October 13, 2021 8:18 pm

Real Rukshan – “Incitement” Politically motivated arrest.

Documentary Filmmaker Topher Field Arrested by Victoria Police

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
October 13, 2021 8:31 pm

H B Bearsays:
October 13, 2021 at 8:02 pm

Exactly HB and that’s how Beattie has been like teflon. Hell they even gave a state funeral to one of his head kickers who himself slid his way out of corruption allegations. Loose lips sink ships and apart from the problem of Mary Rose which dealt with ruthlessly he has been lucky. Maybe being a smiling assassin part helped though if Ken Talbot hadn’t been killed in a plane crash I wonder…

As for Victoria we are seeing a lot of loose lips. Dan has no redeeming features or charisma. Personally I’d say it appears the workplace was and still is toxic and a lot of staffers were burnt so are now extracting their pound of flesh. Wow on some of the names that have floated up, Somyurek, Merlino, Richardson and the likes of Kitching, Byrne to even Shorten’s office.

I’d be more excited if was going to go somewhere but mmm cynical I am…

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 13, 2021 8:36 pm

Silly Cafe Bruce news.

Much galumphing on tin roof this half hour, so I go outside armed with Coles bread.

Sure enough elderly brushtail lady appears over the roof guttering. She gets the big piece. Then, with great caution and apprehension, son brushtail emerges a couple metres away. Out of slash-range from mum. He carefully sidles to within my reach and gets the smaller piece.

He’s gotten his eviction notice.

Then interestingly I watched mum for a while, she took her slice of bread and ate the crust off. All the way around. She’s a crusty! Then once the crust was gone she started on the rest of it.

I get this with the various Cafe denizens. Some cockies for example love bread crust and don’t like soft middle, but other cockies eat middle and discard the crust. Noisy miners too. They’re terribly spoiled, like small children.

Anyway, mum brushtail has eaten most of her bread slice when, very cautiously, son sticks his nose over the guttering again, well separated from mum. I wave a small carrot. He stretches as near to mum as he dares and ropes in carrot with his claws, then retreats to the roof far away from terribly terrible mother. Mum finishes her bread serenely, and gently collects a carrot too.

Poor kid. Life for male brushtail possums is arduous, hungry and miserable. He’s just about to embark upon it, propelled by his frightful mum. I wish him well.

Baba
Baba
October 13, 2021 8:41 pm

H B Bearsays:
October 13, 2021 at 8:02 pm
Victoriastan presents as a classic Fitzgerald situation. Whatever thread you start pulling the whole thing unravels.

Fitzgerald Inquiry was mostly a beat up.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 13, 2021 8:42 pm

Completely inappropriate’: Taliban to address Australian Muslims

Ben Packham
FOREIGN AFFAIRS AND DEFENCE CORRESPONDENT
@bennpackham
57 minutes ago October 13, 2021
66 Comments

Australia’s peak Islamic body has invited two members of the Taliban to appear in a live webinar on Saturday, in a move that has been condemned by Afghan refugees and Australian veterans.

The invitees include longtime Taliban spokesman Suhail Shaheen, who failed to rule out a return to stonings and public executions under Afghanistan’s new leadership, and senior Taliban figure Sayed Abdul Basir Sabiri.

The Australian Federation of Islamic Councils said it had brought together a “stellar panel of speakers” for the event to discuss “the future of Afghanistan and our role, regardless of whether we are in favour or against ­recent ­developments”.

Refugee advocate Sitarah Mohammadi, a member of Afghanistan’s long-persecuted Hazara minority, said she found it “horrifying” the Taliban figures would be given a platform by Australia’s Islamic community to spread the regime’s propaganda.

“It is completely inappropriate,” she said.

“As part of the Hazara community, my family and I fled the rule of the Taliban in the late 1990s. To see faces like these on a prominent event like this is really traumatising.

“Our people have suffered so horrifically at their hands, and continue to do so to this day.”

Ms Mohammadi said the event would allow the Taliban to advance its push for global legitimacy so it could unlock inter­national funds to strengthen its oppressive rule over the country.

Liberal Member for Herbert Phil Thompson, who was seriously wounded by an improvised explosive device while serving in Afghanistan as an army private, said the decision was a “misstep” by the council that would outrage veterans.

“These two people from the Taliban should not be given a platform. The Taliban is an illegitimate government,” he said.

“We have seen young girls unable to attend school. We see girls and women treated as property.

“They are vile and barbaric. They rule with an iron fist and murder, and this organisation should not be given a platform in Australia.”

The chair of the federal parliament’s intelligence and security committee, James Paterson, also warned against giving the Taliban an opportunity “to sup­port their claims of legitimacy”.

“We should instead be doing everything we can to advance the cause of freedom for millions of Afghan girls and women who are now living under the control of a regime with a proven history of violence and brutality,” he said.

AFIC president Rateb Jneid and National Grand Mufti of Australia Imam Abdul Quddoos Al Azhari will also be among the speakers, along with Islamic legal scholar Mohammad Naqib Jan.

cohenite
October 13, 2021 8:47 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
October 13, 2021 at 8:42 pm
‘Completely inappropriate’: Taliban to address Australian Muslims

Ben Packham
FOREIGN AFFAIRS AND DEFENCE CORRESPONDENT
@bennpackham
57 minutes ago October 13, 2021
66 Comments

These fuckers should be deported to afshitistan

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 13, 2021 8:56 pm

Mark from Melbournesays:

October 13, 2021 at 7:29 pm

I suppose it is too much to hope that the whole IBAC thing might have inadvertently broken Sir Humphrey’s first rule… that you don’t have one unless you know the outcome?

I think they did apply the Sir Humphrey principle (but through the prism of ALP factional politics).
I’ll bet there was lots of high-fiving in Hunchback’s office when Somyurek had his gotcha moment on video.
They thought this was a stitch-up of a hated factional opponent.
But this is where this sorry tale departs from the normal Liars script. The Federal party was going to run through the motions of “branch reform”. Somyurek was supposed to swallow his lumps, sit tight for twelve months and then accept a $300k job as Chairman of the Recreational Bike Paths Commission or somesuch.
Either Hunchback was too stubborn to throw Somyurek a bone, or Somyurek’s price was too high (he is Turkish, after all).
So this neat little melodrama which was supposed to be a little factional victory for the ALP Left faction has got out of hand.
The public don’t give a fat rat’s clacker about factions. All they will see is Liars taking cash out of the public purse to pay memberships for people who are now very tightly packed in formation at Springvale Crematorium.
The main thing is, Somyurek is not playing ball, and seems determined to take a few with him.
Popcorn. Large family bucket please.

Rorschach
Rorschach
October 13, 2021 9:00 pm

Topher has been released with bail conditions and is back at home.

https://twitter.com/therealrukshan/status/1448224673947275267?s=21

Be interesting so see what they are – but probably keeping them secret is a part of the conditions or back to the klink you go…

MatrixTransform
October 13, 2021 9:04 pm

FMD!

two in a row on the ABCess

advertisements full of Joe Rogan an Alex Jones and how stupid everybody is
who listens to those two shit-talkers anyway?

how catchy is …. The science has got yr back … get the vax.

conquering Mt Stupid on prime time

Rorschach
Rorschach
October 13, 2021 9:11 pm
DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
October 13, 2021 9:11 pm

Heinlein has a lot of insights into slavery, and observes that it’s bad for the slavers as well as the slaves.

Unlikely. Slavery had clear economic and wealth-producing benefits.

It paid in cash terms, but the effect on the psyche is very bad.

Dot
Dot
October 13, 2021 9:12 pm

Joe Rogan took Ivermectin (and other stuff) and got better in two days.

One data point cannot prove a trend, but it is noteworthy.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 13, 2021 9:13 pm

Rockdoctor at 8:31 – the fact that no-one thought there position was rendered untenable after Pell should have been the start.

local oaf
October 13, 2021 9:15 pm

MatrixTransform says:
October 13, 2021 at 9:04 pm

FMD!

two in a row on the ABCess

advertisements full of Joe Rogan an Alex Jones and how stupid everybody is
who listens to those two shit-talkers anyway?

One possible positive is that there may be a few in the ABC audience who’ve never heard of Rogan or Jones and decide to check them out.

I well remember many years ago Media Watch attacking Quadrant. It made me curious as to what Quadrant was, so I checked it out. Now I’m here.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 13, 2021 9:16 pm

There-their. *facepalm*. I hope my English teacher isn’t reading this. I suspect they are long dead now fortunately (for me at least).

Old bloke
Old bloke
October 13, 2021 9:22 pm

Gilas says:
October 13, 2021 at 4:57 pm

Our Cossack should be a comedian!

Thanks Gilas, that was clever. “I’m 87 year old Bill from Hunters Hill” – a very funny bloke, and he got past the censors on 2GB, that’s an achievement.

Winston Smith
October 13, 2021 9:23 pm

rickw/old bloke:

I salute you rickw, and others in your predicament.

I’ve only ever had to resign over a moral issue once, so I know it isn’t easy for you.
But you do keep your self respect and that can’t be bought for any amount of money.

Winston Smith
October 13, 2021 9:29 pm

Dragnet:

I am very disappointed in the outcome of Peter Ridd’s HC appeal too, but it might be helpful to read the entire judgment before expressing broad criticisms of their Honours.

Nah.
Why don’t we just go for the hangmans noose for the Judges, just to be sure.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 13, 2021 9:30 pm

S ancho at 8:56 – it does rather reek of the kids-in-short-pants being too clever by half. I suspect you are probably pretty close to the truth. A career limiting moment for some rising star soon to be dispatched back to a crib room near you.

cohenite
October 13, 2021 9:38 pm

The HC endorsed a right while simultaneously confirming an inherent process which defeats that right. Tudge and his fellow spittle licking turds in the government have to make a mandatory EA template for academics and their arsehole uni employers which makes that right unfettered.

P
P
October 13, 2021 9:42 pm

But you do keep your self respect and that can’t be bought for any amount of money.

Once again Winston your wisdom comes shining through.

Rorschach
Rorschach
October 13, 2021 9:43 pm
Gab
Gab
October 13, 2021 9:53 pm

Guys, petition to government – freedom of choice

I haven’t posted this one before. It takes 2 seconds.

https://www.aph.gov.au/e-petitions/petition/EN3233 Deadline Oct 27
Petition Reason
The Covid Vaccines are in their relative medical infancy as compared to long standing vaccines for more well established diseases. Many Australians have legitimate concern as to the efficacy and particularly any harmful side effects of the Covid Vaccines. We say that every Australian has the right to choose in regards to Covid vaccination. Government has begun the implementation of measures offering favouritism to vaccinated persons, and limiting the everyday freedoms of those who are not currently vaccinated. We say this is discriminatory and should cease immediately.

132andBush
132andBush
October 13, 2021 9:59 pm

Interesting.
Just had that 17yr olds propaganda interview pop up on my YouTube home page.
SBS and channel 10.

Comments turned off and ratio of likes/dislikes running at 1:9

LMFAO

Gab
Gab
October 13, 2021 10:04 pm

The Bio-security amendment bill, which I posted here, needed 100,000 signatures.

It now has over 107,000.

Well done, guys!

Indolent
Indolent
October 13, 2021 10:12 pm

Are you eligible for a vaccine exemption?

If you have ‘Acute major anxiety caused by the threat of a mandatory medical procedure’…you ARE eligible for a vaccine exemption.

This is from Monica at Reignite Democracy Australia and relates to seeking temporary exemption on the basis of Acute Major Medical Illness. They are working on a database of doctors who can help.

P
P
October 13, 2021 10:13 pm

We will have to be patient and wait till the weekend, when the weather will hopefully warm, to see if things are picking up here in Sydney.
The CBD is awfully quiet. Restaurant businesses in Sydney Metropolitan and CBD are not yet picking up.
Have people gotten used to being at home?
Lifting severe lockdown restrictions does not seem to have enticed them out and about.
We wait.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 13, 2021 10:15 pm

Check out the North Koreans.
Look out China!

https://twitter.com/martyn_williams/status/1447982723176484871?s=20

MatrixTransform
October 13, 2021 10:15 pm

The CBD is awfully quiet. Restaurant businesses in Sydney Metropolitan and CBD are not yet picking up.

no rebound?

who coulda known?

Baba
Baba
October 13, 2021 10:16 pm

Gold Coast woman charged over allegedly issuing hundreds of fake COVID-19 medical exemptions

I hope she didn’t save copies.

Make a fake exemption and they throw you in jail.
Make a fake vaccine and they make you king.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 13, 2021 10:19 pm

The CBD is awfully quiet.

P, until they get rid of masks in the office, it’s going to remain quiet.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
October 13, 2021 10:24 pm

feelthebernsays:
October 13, 2021 at 10:15 pm
Check out the North Koreans.
Look out China!

Wouldn’t that kind of activity chip the nail polish?
It will never catch on in the new modern ADF.

P
P
October 13, 2021 10:24 pm

no rebound?
who coulda known?

Prepared as they were it just hasn’t yet happened.
People are creatures of habit. Break that habit for almost four months and it seems rebound is maybe going to be slower than anticipated.

Arky
October 13, 2021 10:25 pm

Crunching some numbers off Worldometer:
Survival rate for covid, dividing deaths by case numbers (bear in mind the thing isn’t over so rates will move a little)
Survived (so far)
Italy 97.21%
USA 98.36%
Luxembourg 98.94%
Norway 99.53%
Singapore 99.86%
One of the big factors seems to be the shape of the age pyramid in the country. If your pyramid is shaped like a mushroom, all oldies, you’re gonna have a 97, 98% survival. If your pyramid is shaped like an ace of spades, everyone is 25 to 55 years old, your gonna have 99+% survival. If you have a population pyramid shaped like a dog turd, everyone is 14 years old, then fuck knows what’s going on because you’re currently run by the Taliban.

Indolent
Indolent
October 13, 2021 10:25 pm

This was linked under Matt Canavan’s excellent speech.

BioTech Whistleblower, Kieran Morrissey, Warns of Marburg Virus Vaccine Being Fast-Tracked For New Pandemic

The Marburg virus is a rare hemorrhagic fever with Ireland only have 16 cases since 2005. Yet a warning about the Marburg virus was published by Bill & Melinda Gates’ Gavi website. Morrissey also discovered that a PCR test has already been developed to detect the Marburg virus, with the same manipulative cycling qualities that the Covid-19 PCR tests have. The test can be directed to show that anyone has the Marburg virus, but why when Marburg is currently such a rare virus?

Surprisingly, a vaccine for the Marburg virus is already being fast-tracked in development by a company called Soligenix. It is a ricin toxin-based vaccine. Yes, the same ricin used in bio-terrorism.

Nothing is enough for these lunatics. As Dr. McCullough said, it’s like a runaway freight train with no one to stop it.

Davey_Boyee
Davey_Boyee
October 13, 2021 10:28 pm

Saturday night entertainment, this weekend, with the Taliban.

In Australia.

https://twitter.com/BernardGaynor/status/1448183272626810882

don’t forget to forward the invite to the families of the 41 Australian soldiers killed and 261 wounded, for a merry time with the gang online, this Saturday.

Be there or be ! I wonder what the lucky door prize will be?

P
P
October 13, 2021 10:31 pm
Baba
Baba
October 13, 2021 10:35 pm

heraldsun.com.au

Dan was in deal to end stacking wars, rouge MP claims

Who is the poofter rat?

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 13, 2021 10:35 pm

I told my staff that as soon as the masks in the office go, I want them all back in.
That’s likely to be sometime next week.

Baba
Baba
October 13, 2021 10:38 pm

Take them out to lunch, Bern.

MatrixTransform
October 13, 2021 10:40 pm

Break that habit for almost four months and it seems rebound is maybe going to be slower than anticipated.

I hear what yr saying.
There’s that, and of course, that the middle class has be rent to pieces.
so capital investment, small and large, is gone.
so too is liquidity(unless it’s bullshit liquidity from shares or alt-coin)
velocity of money is done for. In Vik it’s even legislated

so basically, it’s game over

Pyrrhic victory for the left

govern this you fuckwits

go on … have Pony Party

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 13, 2021 10:42 pm

Take them out to lunch, Bern.

fucking oath.
blowing up.

MatrixTransform
October 13, 2021 10:42 pm

next, they move to compulsion

do as yr told Kulak

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 13, 2021 10:46 pm

Rolling Stones drop Brown Sugar and its slave lyrics from setlist
I don’t understand the controversy, says Keith Richards
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The Rolling Stones have stopped performing one of their most famous songs, Brown Sugar, amid unease about its reference to slavery.

The band last played the 1969 song live at Hard Rock Stadium, Miami, in August 2019 and it has been absent from the band’s current US tour. The song had been a regular in the band’s live sets and is their second most played behind Jumpin’ Jack Flash with 1,136 performances, according to Rolling Stone magazine.

The lyrics, a pastiche of taboo subjects including slavery and rape, have long been a subject of controversy. The critic Tom Taylor said last month that “the atrocity of the slave trade, rape and the unimaginable suffering therein should not be adorned with gyrating, glib lyrics, guitar solos”.

Asked by the Los Angeles Times about the song’s absence, Mick Jagger said that they had decided to leave it out because they had played it so much. “We’ve played Brown Sugar every night since 1970, so sometimes you think, ‘We’ll take that one out for now and see how it goes’,” he said. “We might put it back in.”

Keith Richards, who wrote the song with Jagger, gave a different explanation, saying that he could not understand the controversy about its lyrics.

Richards, 77, said: “I’m trying to figure out with the sisters quite where the beef is. Didn’t they understand this was a song about the horrors of slavery? But they’re trying to bury it. At the moment I don’t want to get into conflicts with all of this shit. But I’m hoping that we’ll be able to resurrect the babe in her glory somewhere along the track.”

Jagger said in an interview in 1995 that he was uncomfortable with the lyrics. “God knows what I’m on about in that song,” he said. “It’s such a mishmash. All the nasty subjects in one go.”

The song was written in 45 minutes and Jagger described it as “a very instant thing”. It is said that it was about his former lover, the actress, novelist and singer Marsha Hunt.

In 1995 Jagger said: “I never would write that song now. I would probably censor myself. I’d think, ‘Oh God, I can’t. I’ve got to stop. I can’t just write raw like that.”

Brown Sugar’s lyrics
Gold Coast slave ship bound for cotton fields
Sold in the market down in New Orleans
Skydog slaver knows he’s doin’ all right
Hear him whip the women just around midnight

Brown Sugar, how come you taste so good
Brown Sugar, just like a young girl should

Drums beatin’ cold, English blood runs hot
Lady of the house wonderin’ when it’s gonna stop
House boy knows that he’s doin’ all right
You should have heard him just around midnight

Brown Sugar, how come you taste so good?
Brown Sugar, just like a young girl should
Brown Sugar, how come you dance so good?
Brown Sugar, just like a black girl should

I bet your mama was a tent show queen
And all her boyfriends were sweet 16
I’m no school boy but I know what I like
You should have heard them just around midnight

Brown Sugar, how come you taste so good
Brown Sugar, just like a young girl should

I said, yeah, yeah, yeah, wooo!
How come you, how come you dance so good
Yeah, yeah, yeah, wooo!
Just like a, just like a black girl should
Yeah, yeah, yeah, wooo!

JC
JC
October 13, 2021 10:48 pm

Amanda, a very thin girl who almost died from covid, but she made it with by grace of God.

https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/biden-rolls-out-new-fear-campaign/

MatrixTransform
October 13, 2021 10:54 pm

While Im having a rant let me tell youse this too.

My company deals with maybe 100 different companies.

Wholesalers, clients, off-shore suppliers, managing agents, direct to asset managers, and direct to developers.
Direct to Owner’s Corps.
We sub-contract to, and sub-contract from.
All the way to Hong fucking Kong

Do you youse know how many VX matdates I’ve got?

guess…?

no?

… well lemme tell you … ZERO

yes nothing

this is all stage managed bullshit.

fuck em

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 13, 2021 10:54 pm

a straightforward application of the author’s own sample data without any reference to any other number whatsoever.

Yes. There was obviously an error; there would have to be to have produced such an unrealistic figure as 82% spontaneous abortion, which delighted many who would wish to see the vaxxes totally discredited and some of whom I noted on one early linked occasion went haywire with interpreting the error. I was more interested in how that error had happened, an error which those using the ‘author’s own sample’ legitimately used in critique. But their critique still did not explain the actual error. I chased through the data in the study (see my detailed comment on it today) to determine what had happened. The error lay, as the researchers admitted, in the cohort denominator which was contaminated by the introduction, on the single indice of sponataneous abortion, of a separate sub-cohort of those vaxxed at gestation of <20 weeks, a sub-cohort which was mostly uncounted, where I also suspect the ‘counted’ proportion contained many self-reports of the end of a pregnancy.

This happens in cohort studies where data is urgently required. Cohort integrity can get broken in the reportage. The flaw was admitted, the sub-cohort counted and the data put up separately to the first study, which was still valid on other indices than spontaneous abortion.

Apart from wanting to say that I am wrong, which I am not, I cannot see why this continues to be of interest here.

Leave it be, Timothy.

Arky
October 13, 2021 10:55 pm
MatrixTransform
October 13, 2021 10:58 pm

Leave it be, Timothy.

shut.the.fuck.up.woman

JC
JC
October 13, 2021 10:58 pm

Link doesn’t work, Arky. Or is it supposed to be like that?

Arky
October 13, 2021 11:01 pm
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 13, 2021 11:07 pm

If you have ‘Acute major anxiety caused by the threat of a mandatory medical procedure’…you ARE eligible for a vaccine exemption.

Now that is very good news. Everyone is due one really good ‘acute major anxiety’ in their lifetime.

Make this yours if you don’t want the vaxxx.

Lazlo
Lazlo
October 13, 2021 11:08 pm

The band last played the 1969 song ..

Nitpick. Brown Sugar first aired as the lead song on Sticky Fingers, northern summer of 1971. 1969 was Let it Bleed…

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 13, 2021 11:09 pm

shut.the.fuck.up.woman

Fuck off, Matrix.

Only decent response to your sort.

MatrixTransform
October 13, 2021 11:13 pm

Only decent response to your sort.

use the squirt-bottle you silly old bint

rickw
rickw
October 13, 2021 11:14 pm
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 13, 2021 11:18 pm

use the squirt-bottle you silly old bint

Drunk again, I see.

MatrixTransform
October 13, 2021 11:19 pm

somebody has to say no

vlad redux
vlad redux
October 13, 2021 11:19 pm

Getting a vax exemption is useless if what you object to is having to live in an internal-passport society/open-air prison.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 13, 2021 11:21 pm

use the squirt-bottle you silly old bint

And it’s going to be a big, brave, drunken, woman-hating keyboard warrior like you, isnt it?

MatrixTransform
October 13, 2021 11:22 pm

Drunk again, I see.

omg you’re pathetic.
If I was drunk should I be ashamed?

your shame you silly mole, is that you’ll bargain (stone cold sober) everybody’s rights to have the last word.

thing is … you’re wrong

people like like you are very very wrong

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 13, 2021 11:22 pm

Saying no, that is.

Matrix claims the right to boss around any woman on this site.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 13, 2021 11:23 pm

And to abuse them with unusual insults, as well as his usual ageist stuff.

Go on Matrix, with your ‘one foot in the grave’ charmer that you used the other night.

Lazlo
Lazlo
October 13, 2021 11:26 pm

On further investigation, I stand (self) corrected. According to wiki, Brown Sugar was first performed by the Stones at Altomont in December 1969. I don’t remember this from Gimme Shelter, but there were some other events that night that overshadowed the end of the decade of swinging and loving 60s.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
October 13, 2021 11:28 pm

That brilliant wordsmith Mark Steyn strikes agin.

Superman is now homosexual and fighting for truth, justice and the American gay

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 13, 2021 11:29 pm

your shame you silly mole, is that you’ll bargain (stone cold sober) everybody’s rights to have the last word.

Old again, dear me, but know this: I stand up for myself.

I’ve had to put more time into replying to Timothy than I’ve ever wanted to, because he simply will not let up. It’s just gone on and on and on. As I said about it, he’s getting fixated and I do not enjoy being around fixated people.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
October 13, 2021 11:30 pm

Getting a vax exemption is useless if what you object to is having to live in an internal-passport society/open-air prison.
You’re half right, Vlad. It’s more accurately calledcollaboration.

MatrixTransform
October 13, 2021 11:32 pm

misogynist
ageist

nothing what-so-ever to do with Lizzie’s stupidity?

MatrixTransform
October 13, 2021 11:35 pm

Go on Matrix, with your ‘one foot in the grave’ charmer that you used the other night

well, you do you silly old mole.
you’re on borrowed time like the rest of us

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 13, 2021 11:56 pm

nothing what-so-ever to do with Lizzie’s stupidity?

Woo Hoo, come on down, boys.

The Matrix cabal of dickless upticks.

If I’m on borrowed time, then it’s time I went to read my book.

Speaking of books, where’s Herodotus? One of the good ones.
Men do comes in all varieties, sizes and with many points of interest.
Some of them can even read. And add up too. Wow. 🙂

MatrixTransform
October 13, 2021 11:59 pm

Hey Lizzie ,
If you’re so smart, how come your stand-point feminism sound the same as a sixteen year-old’s?

MatrixTransform
October 14, 2021 12:01 am

dickless upticks.

dickless upticks R us

MatrixTransform
October 14, 2021 12:02 am

and who could have known that the school-girl would pivot from shame to incredulity?

shut.the.fuck.up

srr
srr
October 14, 2021 12:22 am

The Vigano Tapes #10: “Decades of Systematic Cancellation”

https://rumble.com/vmsuj7-the-vigan-tapes-10-decades-of-systematic-cancellation.html

Urbi et Orbi Communications
Published September 21, 2021
Rumble — The Viganò Tapes consist of 18 tapes each one containing a question that we asked Archbishop Viganò at the end of August 2021. This exclusive interview covers the current situation in the Church and in the world.

This video is #10 of these 18 tapes, in which Archbishop Viganò speaks of the “absurdity of what we have seen for the last year and a half.” And of how the Catholic Church in recent decades has grown increasingly reluctant to engage in a direct combat with the world, the flesh, and the devil.

The remaining tapes will be released in the coming days.

srr
srr
October 14, 2021 12:24 am

The Vigano Tapes #8: “Protect the Children”

https://rumble.com/vmsvrf-the-vigan-tapes-8-protect-the-children.html

Urbi et Orbi Communications
Published September 21, 2021

This video is #8 of these 18 tapes, in which Archbishop Viganò explains “a need to reject any cooperation with the current pandemic narrative.”

Tom
Tom
October 14, 2021 4:02 am

Johannes Leak. Spot on.

Tom
Tom
October 14, 2021 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
October 14, 2021 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
October 14, 2021 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
October 14, 2021 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
October 14, 2021 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
October 14, 2021 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
October 14, 2021 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
October 14, 2021 4:10 am
Tom
Tom
October 14, 2021 4:11 am
Tom
Tom
October 14, 2021 4:12 am
Tom
Tom
October 14, 2021 4:13 am
Tom
Tom
October 14, 2021 4:14 am
Tom
Tom
October 14, 2021 4:15 am
Tom
Tom
October 14, 2021 4:15 am
Tom
Tom
October 14, 2021 4:16 am
Tom
Tom
October 14, 2021 4:19 am
Tom
Tom
October 14, 2021 4:20 am
feelthebern
feelthebern
October 14, 2021 4:53 am

A fine batch today Tom.

CrazyOldRanga
CrazyOldRanga
October 14, 2021 5:08 am

Unless a bunch of mostly retired old folk want to pay me $1000 a week to not work I will be getting a shot of AZ this afternoon so that I can survive in the apocalyptic wasteland of Viktoria. Not a choice I wanted to make but reality is reality.

To say that I am sad and depressed about it is an understatement. Feeling so powerless is a new thing for me. I WILL hold a grudge against the people who have made it this way.

I will be on the “other” thread from this evening 🙁

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 14, 2021 5:23 am
feelthebern
feelthebern
October 14, 2021 5:24 am

Never forget who did this to you Ranga.

srr
srr
October 14, 2021 5:26 am

PREVIEW: The Worst of Critical Race Theory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nae_D23-BgE

Oct 14, 2021
Lotuseaters Dot Com

Carl discusses the contribution of professor Dorothy E. Roberts and her contribution to the canon of Critical Race Theory and how it should be acceptable for a black woman to give birth to a crack baby.

srr
srr
October 14, 2021 5:32 am

CRT “ABUSE OF CHILDREN”: NEW Secret Critical Race Theory Doc Exposed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZX6j5Muz6I

Oct 14, 2021
Judicial Watch

Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton appeared on Newxmax TV to discuss a CRT (“critical race theory”) training course sent to Judicial Watch by a whitstleblower detailing how teachers are pushing critical race theory in classrooms.

srr
srr
October 14, 2021 5:36 am

The Southwest Airlines Anti-Mandate Strike

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjyKtXdrrs0

Oct 14, 2021
The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters

srr
srr
October 14, 2021 5:49 am

Let’s Go, Brandon! Decent Conservatives Now Curse Joe Biden in Public without Dropping F-Bomb

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNY2nqTeJaM

Oct 14, 2021
Bill Whittle

NBC reporter Kelli Stavast, while interviewing NASCAR driver Brandon Brown, gives decent conservatives a way to curse President Joe Biden in public without dropping the F-bomb. The meme explodes, spawns a cottage industry in t-shirts and the like. Bill Whittle explains why “Let’s Go, Brandon!” resonates so deeply.

srr
srr
October 14, 2021 5:52 am

Joe Biden CLEARLY Implemented In Hunter Biden’s Coruption, Bank Records PROVE His Involvement

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZFQCVhL5t4

Oct 14, 2021
Timcast IRL

1.1M subscribers
Tim, Ian, Luke, and Lydia join critical theory critic and commentator Wokal Distance to express lack of surprise over Joe Biden’s clear implication in his son’s rank corruption.

srr
srr
October 14, 2021 6:02 am

Fascism Is the Inevitable Conclusion of Socialism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3FiBPxGxyk

Oct 13, 2021
Lotuseaters Dot Com

94.2K subscribers
Why all forms of socialism are doomed to converge into fascism.

rosie
rosie
October 14, 2021 6:42 am

Despicable Dan Andrews is responsible.
It astounded me that Dover, who provides this forum out of the goodness of his heart, is yet again being imposed upon by someone who, because he abuses the privilege, is not welcome.
Have you no conscience?

rosie
rosie
October 14, 2021 6:47 am
rickw
rickw
October 14, 2021 6:51 am
rosie
rosie
October 14, 2021 6:55 am

My friend told me years ago how all the corner stores in her old neighbourhood in a different town closed due to persistent robberies, then the local community claim they are being discriminates against because they have no shops in walking distance.
Smart move in San Francisco.

after san Francisco downgrades shoplifting under $950 to misdemeanour Walgrens close five pharmacies

calli
calli
October 14, 2021 6:56 am

CrazyOldRanga, even if you have the AZ, you will still be in the twilight world of the unvaxxed, for all intents and purposes, for as long as the government chooses.

Do not get it if participation is your goal. Nothing will change for you.

rickw
rickw
October 14, 2021 6:58 am

To say that I am sad and depressed about it is an understatement. Feeling so powerless is a new thing for me. I WILL hold a grudge against the people who have made it this way.

Why do it then? When I dug in it was very difficult, but now I’m relaxed and they’re the ones under pressure.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 14, 2021 7:00 am

Johannes Leak. Spot on.

The BCA has been a Big Government champion for years. Always part of the problem.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 14, 2021 7:03 am

Clearly you have no idea what is in the shots right? Other people got curious so they pulled out the electron microscopes. You didn’t find it necessary to discover what it is they found right?

Ruh roh. You know what.

rosie
rosie
October 14, 2021 7:05 am

Seems to me quite a few extremely ambitious young Labor types might have done ‘whatever it takes’.

shared for the ‘stacked branches like a beaver’

calli
calli
October 14, 2021 7:06 am

Forget spidey sense. My Nanna Wrigglers are on high alert.

rosie
rosie
October 14, 2021 7:08 am

I think you are on to something, fun loving one.

rickw
rickw
October 14, 2021 7:09 am

My Nanna Wrigglers are on high alert.

Indeed!

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 14, 2021 7:10 am

They do love the beaver those Young Labor types.

rosie
rosie
October 14, 2021 7:11 am

In Victoria it’s one shot to stay in work for now.
The only ‘privilege’ vaccination brings is the right to have a picnic with one other fully vaccinated family within 15 km of home.

rosie
rosie
October 14, 2021 7:13 am

We really are that pathetic here in Melbourne.
The damage the man ‘sent’* to save us is doing.
*yes he actually said that.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 14, 2021 7:14 am

CSL is using this as a tactic to get more from the federal government to keep producing the AZ vaccine.
If they get more per shot, they’ll keep doing it.
If not, they’ll stop with the cover of other vaccines filling the gap.

rosie
rosie
October 14, 2021 7:16 am

It’s always about money then.

calli
calli
October 14, 2021 7:16 am

Interesting article on authoritarianism and Covid over at American Thinker.

Those that have a predilection towards authoritarianism invariably have a deep-seated conviction of infallibility combined with attendant hubris and pathological lying. These traits are ever-present in those that can justify any devious or unethical means to achieve their goal.

Another timeline of lies, but still worth reading as reinforcement.

Crossie
Crossie
October 14, 2021 7:16 am

To say that I am sad and depressed about it is an understatement. Feeling so powerless is a new thing for me. I WILL hold a grudge against the people who have made it this way.

That’s why I am not fussed that Gladys was brought down by ICAC. Since she used whatever it takes against us I don’t have a problem when it’s done to her. Live by the sword die by the sword.

I bet a lot of the flowers piled around her electorate office have been sent there by photios and Turnbull to make it look like she was so loved. Gladys is lucky that those she ruined financially are nicer people than she is.

rosie
rosie
October 14, 2021 7:23 am

I ran into someone at the supermarket yesterday, who confided in me her family was , for the first time going to have a sneaky dinner together. All vaxxed, had enough.
Naturally as soon as I walked away I called the covid dobline
Melbourne. Claiming success from world leading failures.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 14, 2021 7:24 am

My Nanna Wrigglers are on high alert.

Indeed.

rosie
rosie
October 14, 2021 7:27 am

If you thinking of buying a new car get in now while you can.

PoliBard on the abc dumping ground

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 14, 2021 7:29 am

Aha.

Snap, rickw. Anyway – discussion point:

All Germans should be shot on sight, particularly those related to the Kaiser. Germany itself should be turned into a car park and given to South Sudan so they can do burnouts on Frederick the Great’s grave.

Also, anyone banned from both hospitals and railway stations is an out and out lunatic who should be tied down and whipped by the crippled.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 14, 2021 7:32 am

Sinc always axed this angry person using the ‘c’ word because the end result would have been the death of his site. This angry person has considerable form. We can expect the ‘J’ word to appear soon enough.

rosie
rosie
October 14, 2021 7:35 am

You have a report button and you know how to use it.

CrazyOldRanga
CrazyOldRanga
October 14, 2021 7:39 am

My situation is that living in Victoria I must be vaccinated to keep working. I am calling it Coerced Consent. Trust me, I will NEVER forgive or forget.

Living alone and renting I have very little genuine “choice “ in the matter.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 14, 2021 7:41 am

Damn. Astra-Zenica on the way out in Oz. Best of all of the vaxxes so far.
Longer lasting protection and once over the blood clot hurdle very few problems with it.
It also has a more traditional vector mode than the other two available here.
And the third world would happily take any spare supplies.

Mater
October 14, 2021 7:41 am

Living alone and renting I have very little genuine “choice “ in the matter.

I get it. We are really getting to the pointing end of the stick in Victoria now.

Baba
Baba
October 14, 2021 7:42 am

rosiesays:
October 14, 2021 at 7:16 am
It’s always about money then.

That’s an excellent argument for getting vaxxed. Can I steal it?

calli
calli
October 14, 2021 7:44 am

And, speaking of the ‘J’ word, just popped over to Sultan Knish’s. An interesting article on China going “green”.

China’s green strategy depended on hydropower and the droughts have left it powerless. And its hydropower is anything but environmentally friendly. Mao used dams to revive the water empire strategy of the ancient emperors allowing the Communist regime to starve entire regions of the country and to undermine neighbors like India. The massive number of dams in China, a totalitarian program to enable mass murder, were environmentally devastating before being revamped as “green energy” hydropower. Green energy, as usual, has its roots in genocide.

He talks about China’s coal imports from the US, apparently lignite coal. Although he doesn’t make the connection, punishing Australia by dropping imports has probably made their massive emissions even higher.

Worth a look.

calli
calli
October 14, 2021 7:46 am

Sorry, Ranga. I thought you were in NSW.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 14, 2021 7:46 am

Ludicrous.

Josh Frydenberg: There are ‘costs of inaction’ on climate change, Australia must be part of ‘collective effort’ (13 Oct)

No Mr Frydenberg there are no costs of inaction because global warming currently isn’t occurring and hasn’t been occurring all this century thus far. For example the trends in Arctic and Antarctic sea ice has been increasing for a decade, the snow line hasn’t moved north or south, and extreme weather has if anything been less extreme.

Only in the climate models do we see an increase, and they have about 10 times too high sensitivity to CO2. We also see an increase in some terrestrial temperature records, but that is due to undefendable adjustments and interpolation of missing data using climate models…in a neat snake-eating-tail self justification.

Please stop destroying Australia for this myth. If you are a lemming the correct decision is not to be part of ‘a collective effort’ jumping over a cliff.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 14, 2021 7:49 am

it was about a year of effort before I got fit again

That’s the anti-psychotics making you lazy. Getting fat was just a by-product.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 14, 2021 7:52 am

Living alone and renting I have very little genuine “choice’ in the matter.

This is how all those sailors in Blackbeard’s time voluntarily walked the plank.

As the man said, Ranga – never forget.

Cassie of Sydney
October 14, 2021 7:54 am

Given our electoral system, I don’t hold out much hope that Craig Kelly can hold Hughes however I hope to see it fall to Labor (can’t believe I’m saying that…but I am)..

Scott Morrison has supported Melanie Gibbons’ bid to move into federal politics, although her successful preselection would force the Perrottet government into a fourth by-election.

Long-serving NSW MP Melanie Gibbons’ bid to move into federal politics has been backed by Prime Minister Scott Morrison.

Ms Gibbons announced on Wednesday she would resign from her Holsworthy Legislative Assembly state seat in the hopes of running for the Liberal Party in the federal seat of Hughes.

Hughes is currently held by Craig Kelly, who quit the Liberal Party earlier this year and later joined billionaire Clive Palmer’s United Australia Party (UAP).

Mr Kelly, who has been appointed UAP leader, has confirmed he will recontest his Hughes seat at the next federal election.

Mr Morrison, whose own electorate of Cook neighbours Hughes, welcomed Ms Gibbons’ intention to represent the seat for the Liberal Party.

“I have known Melanie Gibbons for many years and welcome her decision to put herself forward for selection as the Liberal Party’s candidate for Hughes at the next federal election,” he said.

Mr Morrison said Ms Gibbons was a “passionate” local state Liberal member who had served her community for nearly two decades.

“Her experience and perspective would be a welcome addition to my federal team and working together in neighbouring electorates in Southern Sydney,” he said.

In a statement, Ms Gibbons said she had informed Premier Dominic Perrottet that she would be running to be the Liberal candidate in the electorate currently held by Craig Kelly.

“Given the recent speculation in the media and the community about the likelihood of me running, now is the right time for me to make this announcement,” Ms Gibbons said in her statement.

“I will continue to serve in my role as the State Member for Holsworthy until I am required to resign for the federal election, whenever that is called,” the statement reads.

The move means the Perrottet government could face a fourth by-election if Ms Gibbons is successful in gaining preselection.

Ms Gibbons however plans to stay on in state parliament if she fails to secure preselection for the federal seat of Hughes, thereby avoiding a by-election.

A senior Liberal source on Wednesday was sceptical that Ms Gibbons had the numbers to win a contested ballot.

Liberal sources believed Ms Gibbons would not have to quit state parliament if she was unsuccessful in seeking preselection, but acknowledged it would be politically difficult for her to remain as the Holsworthy MP while trying to secure a new job in federal politics.

After Gladys Berejiklian announced she would quit as premier, The Daily Telegraph revealed that Liberal MPs were bracing for Ms Gibbons to announce she would seek preselection for Hughes. The Holsworthy MP played down the suggestion at the time.

“That’s not on my radar, I do not want to cause a by-election,” Ms Gibbons said last week.

Ms Gibbons holds Holsworthy with a margin of just 3.3 per cent. However an electoral redistribution has notionally doubled that margin to six per cent.

The Coalition was already facing three by-elections, in Willoughby (being vacated by Ms Berejiklian), Monaro (with the resignation of John Barilaro), and Bega (held by the departing Andrew Constance).”

rosie
rosie
October 14, 2021 7:55 am
Zipster
October 14, 2021 7:59 am

Concealed within the grounds of a mammoth Chinese combat training camp lies a replica of a major city’s landmarks and infrastructure.

From above, it looks like any other functioning central business district, with major buildings dotting gridded streets near a huge highway interchange, just down from an international airport’s runway.

It took China just two years to construct the mock city, which bears undeniable similarities to Taipei, the capital of Taiwan.

Shortly after works were completed, a snippet of vision emerged showing the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) conducting a significant invasion drill.

As smoke from exploding bombs filled the fake city streets, troops dropped from choppers in a field run towards the presidential headquarters as tanks descend and anti-aircraft missiles aim at the sky.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 14, 2021 8:02 am

Of course Chai-nerr’s practicing on a mockup of Taipei.

They’ve been saying they were going to do it for years. They’d be stupid not to be doing it.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 14, 2021 8:02 am

So true BoN.
Only in the climate models do we see an increase, and they have about 10 times too high sensitivity to CO2. We also see an increase in some terrestrial temperature records, but that is due to undefendable adjustments and interpolation of missing data using climate models…in a neat snake-eating-tail self justification.

Ice cores, tree rings, coral and other tea leaf science.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 14, 2021 8:04 am

I see China is no longer going to build coal fired power stations in the third world under belt and road

The story has been around for a while, but may be being repeated because of the timing. I think it’s partly to give a green headline before the climapalooza in Glasgow, so that the Chinese can say “look, we’re green too” without it being too obviously hypocritical. They rather like the West committing economic suicide, so need to keep the Davos elites on track.

Also there’s a simmering problem with Belt and Road countries not coughing up for all that shiny new infrastructure. China is finding out that lending money to Africa and the MENA is a risky thing to do, since without a gun to their heads they tend not to repay.

Indolent
Indolent
October 14, 2021 8:04 am

RECEIPTS! Patent PROVES Vaxx is Obedience Training Platform – THE FINAL VARIANT!

Stew Peters interview with Karen Kingston. This is the stuff of nightmares.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 14, 2021 8:05 am

I rather enjoyed the statistical ‘last word’ discussions of yesterday, with a brief encore late in the evening.

Ah. Took me back.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 14, 2021 8:06 am

Why would China create demand for thermal coal in other nations when there are enough issues with supply for themselves.

Mater
October 14, 2021 8:06 am

Ah. Took me back.

All that was missing was a reference to 91.3%.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 14, 2021 8:07 am

Oct 14, 2021
Bill Whittle
NBC reporter Kelli Stavast, while interviewing NASCAR driver Brandon Brown, gives decent conservatives a way to curse President Joe Biden in public without dropping the F-bomb. The meme explodes, spawns a cottage industry in t-shirts and the like. Bill Whittle explains why “Let’s Go, Brandon!” resonates so deeply.

I wonder how popular Nelli Kelli is now with her fellow DemonRat activists with by-lines now?

P
P
October 14, 2021 8:08 am

Reactions to Perrottet: some critics are more equal than others
By Dr Kevin Donnelly – October 13, 2021 – The Catholic Weekly

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 14, 2021 8:10 am

There’s a term that emerging countries need to learn.
Bio-mass.

In the green washing world, it’s methane from garbage tips.
In the real world it’s burning everything that will burn to spin them turbines.
In Pakistan, it’s a concoction of used tyres & a newspaper with a secret sauce emulsifier that makes it burn hotter.

JC
JC
October 14, 2021 8:12 am

Why would China create demand for thermal coal in other nations when there are enough issues with supply for themselves.

They may never have thought about second order impacts like this. Also, there’s a lot of coal in Africa that remains unexploited.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 14, 2021 8:14 am

Doing some good I hope. Twenty-five comments from me and a few from dear Hairy (both of us under another subscription name since dumping then renewing our sub) now up on The Australian in the past two weeks, and all but one of them ‘accepted’. We will dump the sub again of course should this rate of acceptance of free speech change.

The Australian’s official line of course has now gone deep green, right inside the Washington dinner party beltway, but on the comments they are clearly scared of losing more subscribers. When reworked a little, the substance of that rejected comment too was accepted. Most getting upticks, some in the 40’s or higher. Almost all have been on climate change and the current economic madness running through our polity regarding this chimera, sometimes pointing out that even the latest IPPC Report can hardly sustain the rage with any science, in contrast to the hysterical Policy Report attached to it.

Comments are running 90% against the recent ‘enlightenment’ of Morrison and this paper.

JC
JC
October 14, 2021 8:14 am

In Pakistan, it’s a concoction of used tyres & a newspaper with a secret sauce emulsifier that makes it burn hotter.

Imagine the stench of burning rubber day in day out.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 14, 2021 8:14 am

Is Victor Toth the Bird?

Should he be given the Bird?

Gab
Gab
October 14, 2021 8:15 am

CrazyOldRangasays:
October 14, 2021 at 7:39 am
My situation is that living in Victoria I must be vaccinated to keep working. I am calling it Coerced Consent. Trust me, I will NEVER forgive or forget.

Living alone and renting I have very little genuine “choice “ in the matter.

I feel your pain. Have you got a spare room? We could share the rent.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 14, 2021 8:16 am

Imagine the stench of burning rubber day in day out.

It’s crazy shit isn’t it.
They reckon you get used to it.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 14, 2021 8:20 am

RBG gunna get cancelled.
Was anti kneeling for the national anthem.
Just as the Kaepernick documentary is about to drop.

This is GOLD.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 14, 2021 8:22 am

They may never have thought about second order impacts like this. Also, there’s a lot of coal in Africa that remains unexploited.

lol, JC. They haven’t really come to grips yet even with first order impacts, like that of spitting the dummy on purchasing our world’s best quality black coal, and now having to let at least some of it in from Aussie coal transports previously refused permission to dock.

Winter is coming in China and coal supplies are low. Watch the padded jackets grow.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 14, 2021 8:23 am

it was about a year of effort before I got fit again

That’s the anti-psychotics making you lazy. Getting fat was just a by-product.

They do, however, make your insights regarding fractional reserves much more insightful, clearer, coherent and focused.

And there is nothing quite like coherency, focus and clarity for improving one’s life, ‘Victor…’

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 14, 2021 8:24 am

Met coal holding 400.
Thermal coal at 243/t & has spent a month at 200+.
The cash-flow generated by these numbers are mind boggling.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 14, 2021 8:26 am

‘Worst cold ever’ sweeping the UK as expert shares what is to blame for surging cases

Gore Effect! Perfect timing. It’s too much to hope the heating fails at the COP meeting but.

Zipster
October 14, 2021 8:33 am
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 14, 2021 8:34 am

She warned this weekend that people who catch flu and Covid at the same time are twice as likely to die as those who only have Covid.

She told Sky’s Trevor Philips on Sunday: ‘I think the important thing about this winter is, we are likely to see flu, for the first time in any real numbers, co-circulating with Covid. So the risks of catching both together still remain.

‘And if you do that, then early evidence suggests that you are twice as likely to die from having the two together than just having Covid alone.’

Currently ‘flu is like Covid, an older person’s disease.

But ‘flu has already shown its propensity to mutate to strike at the young and healthy.
A major ‘flu pandemic has always been on the cards. Hopefully controllable.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 14, 2021 8:35 am

Also perfect timing, although the COP attendees may regard this as a feature not a bug.

UK energy crisis erupts as Ofgem confirms TWO more firms collapse – fears of soaring bills (13 Oct)

Regulator Ofgem confirmed Pure Planet, in which BP holds a stake of about 24 percent and which has around 235,000 customers, as well as Colorado Energy with 15,000 customers, have exited the market. This now takes the number of firms to go bust since the beginning of this year to 14, displacing almost 2.4million customers. Since the start of last month alone, a total of 11 energy firms have collapsed.

BP-backed Pure Planet, a 100 percent renewable energy supplier, ceased trading citing “increasing risk and large potential losses”, according to a statement from the firm’s co-founders.

Ironic that green-as-grass BP is now finding that renewable energy is a total lemon. Schadenfreude!

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 14, 2021 8:35 am

Gore Effect! Perfect timing. It’s too much to hope the heating fails at the COP meeting but.

It should be turned off. Give them a taste of the future they’re organising for the rest of us.

Zipster
October 14, 2021 8:37 am

Build back betterCommie

1. Covid-19 is ten times deadlier for the entirety of the American population than seasonal influenza and millions could die. The reality is for 90+% of the population Covid-19 is only marginally more dangerous than seasonal flu. To further panic the public, the fatalities attributed to Covid-19 were deliberately exaggerated by a factor of 10 to 1.

2. In order to get the American people to acquiesce to an unprecedented and unnecessary quarantining of the healthy, the citizenry was assured that a two-week shutdown would slow down the virus and defeat it. In numerous places in the country, they are in week 78.

3. Joe Biden declared that if a person is vaccinated, he or she will not be infected or die with the virus. Currently, the majority of those being infected and dying of Covid-19 are vaccinated.

4. Immunity generated by the vaccine is far better than natural immunity from having previously contracted the virus. In fact, natural immunity provides 13x more immunity to Covid-19 than the vaccines.

Zipster
October 14, 2021 8:39 am

“Russell, You Missed A RED FLAG!” Facebook’s Censorship PLANT?
Russell Brand

Certainly didn’t miss it. Gave facebook a pretext to launch more censorship. The whole thing didn’t smell right.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 14, 2021 8:40 am

The Battle of Hastings occurred today, in 1066.

The absolute apex of French military endeavours, with a slight blip at Austerlitz almost 800 years later.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 14, 2021 8:42 am

The absolute apex of French military endeavours, with a slight blip at Austerlitz almost 800 years later.

The utter Gaul of it…

Zipster
October 14, 2021 8:43 am

Mass Psychosis & You
This video explains why people you know seem to have lost their ability to reason or even be reasonable.
Mass Hysteria, or psychosis is a very routine and well-documented part of human history. It also describes well our current circumstances.

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