2,892 thoughts on “Open Thread-Mon 18 Oct 2021”

  1. excepted we can almost have our choice of holiday units for all of January and February.

    That doesn’t scream “chockers” to me.
    Either way, I am not touching Queensland in the current situation.
    Why live 50 weeks a year under one megalomaniac, and then swap the last two weeks for a state run by a sociopath.
    I’ll take Frank Bananarama’s Fiji thanks.


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  2. Fully vacinated people die of Covid.

    And some of them die because of the vax.

    Report to date of Oct 6 from TGA site:

    Number of reports (cases): 66016

    Number of cases with a single suspected medicine: 64994

    Number of cases where death was a reported outcome: 586


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  3. Faustus: Just watched Woodthorpe’s press club address. Dear Lord, send us some reporters who do more than take stenography. She’s the perfect trough-snouter, and with the obligatory record of dismal failure. Consider: she was head of the Bushfires CRC when it was taken over by ‘scientists’ who believe that, if you don’t do prophylactic burning, the forest debris will rot from the bottom at the same rate it accumulates on top, meaning fuel loads reach and maintain a state of moist, dynamic equilibrium. Presto, no more bushfires.

    Except, with academics of little hands-on forest experience imposing their non-burning regime on the bush, we ended up with the most recent megablazes. You’d think a PhD would understand that more fuel equals bigger fire.

    The rest of her address was more of the same: State science knows best always, whether it be climate change, COVID or nanowrigglers.

    Press Club will have her transcript up soonish. If you ever need an emetic, recommended reading.


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  4. If you aren’t Richie Benaud, ex-cricketers doing run of the mill “expert commentary” are like weather girls.
    Not many last into their forties.

    Not heard much from Richie over the past few years. Disappointing if he’s another one who’s buggered off for the Rupee.


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  5. They are hiding the bodies. All the Covid stats etc can and are being obfuscated but dead bodies is what counts. Obviously this data is embarrassing so they don’t release it.

    Oh yes, they’re hiding the bodies…in mass fucking graves in NYC.

    My kid lives in the vicinity of one the big hospitals and saw body bags being carted out daily.

    You clown, faulty2

    Let me know if this isn’t enough. I’ll get the one from Italy and the UK too.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52241221.amp

    You should not be posting deranged bullshit here, dickhead.


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  6. Michael Malice
    @michaelmalice
    Im watching Joe Rogan do stand-up and Alex Jones just leaned over to tell me that I am Jesus and some of you still doubt that we live in a simulation



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  7. Frequent flyers burn through 2 billion points ahead of border opening
    People who sold their birthright for the bowl of soup.

    Possibly. I might even be one of them. A trip a year away. If you don’t book the seats, you don’t get to go.

    I fully expect not to go, as we haven’t got to the plague of burning hailstones or the frogs yet. We’ll all be kept under lock and key for a while yet.

    To keep us safe.


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  8. JC:

    Oh yea. He often mentioned that. Ironically the worst complaint offenders were the most abusive with racist comments directed at individuals and the regular pile on offenders. The posse and pile on offenders there were the most diabolical scum the good lord ever conceived.

    JC, you really are blind to your own excesses, aren’t you?
    Tell you what – I’ll raise the bet to $2 just to help with your hurt feelings.
    Don’t thank me, I’d do it for nearly anyone.


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  9. The rest of her address was more of the same: State science knows best always, whether it be climate change, COVID or nanowrigglers.

    My current curse is water: a huge challenge when the nanowrigglers have set into the State scientists.

    But I’ll strap on my bondage gear, tighten my cilice, light a candle and read from Woodthorpe.


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  10. Cardimona
    Having weakened the immune systems of millions of people around the world with the dodgy covid vaxxes, the next step for the globalists is to release a genuinely deadly virus. I do believe it has already been released in India and it will hit our news cycle soon. Woz, Parramatta Park

    Funny how common Bell’s Palsy has become since the covid vax came out. But it’s not the vax – the vax is 100 percent safe and effective, right? Davos Dave, Cairns

    The covid epidemic is over in Japan. Their govt gave everyone the 1980s drug that cures covid that no Australian media outlet is allowed to name. Ivor MacTinn, Cairns

    Exactly right, Fisho (20/10). Seas have not risen after decades of global warming and annual death rates haven’t risen due to covid. Both are left wing agitprop and our political and public service types are either too stupid to realise that or they’re the enemies of our nation. Hannah, Mareeba

    I used to think only 10% of us were truly gullible, because that’s how many Greens voters there are. Now I’m shocked to realise the gullible number close to 60%, and that’s about as many vaxxed as AnaSStacia is going to get. Axel, Yorkeys Knob

    There’s two types of covid pushers – the grifters and the gullible. The grifters sense opportunity to gain money and/or power. The gullible do as they’re told and enjoy the thrill of the fear campaign. Those of us who have gotten poorer and less powerful and who can smell bull***t a mile off are getting very very angry. Grifters won’t like us when we’re really angry. Big Green Guy, Cairns

    Rick (CP, 20/10). The govt has no legal right to force me into the jab. The govt is who has closed borders and turned you against me. You, sir, are what Joseph Stalin would fondly have called a “useful idiot.” Chloe, Kuranda

    The links between Covid-19, Bill Gates, Tony Fauci, the Wuhan lab, and the vaccines are becoming increasingly public, with material from the US Patents Office providing evidence. Gates is on the record in a TED talk advocating for population reduction via vaccination. Evil is ascendant in this world and most of us are too comfortably numb to even notice. Ruth, Smithfield

    Tony Rocco (20/10). You wouldn’t have needed to be that sick or get all the expensive (and therefore profitable) treatments had our charming federal government allowed you to have the cure, as the governments of Argentina, Brazil, Bulgaria, Colombia, Czech Republic, Egypt, Germany, India, Indonesia, Japan, Lebanon, North Macedonia, Panama, Paraguay, Portugal, Slovakia, South Africa, Thailand, Florida-USA, and Ukraine have. Tourist, Cairns

    Yeah, “Freedom Day.” That’s the day we’re allowed out of our small cages into a bigger cage. Remove all covid restrictions now. Aussies are sick of “democratic” fascism. Trev, Edge Hill.

    OK, now that AIMS has announced the GBR has the most coral cover ever, can we please stop funding the serial spongers at all these reef research places who were all completely wrong about the imminent demise of the reef? Bucket, Westcourt

    Rick of Redlynch (CP, 20/10). I reckon if you’d lived in Germany in 1939 you’d have been one of those friendly types who dobbed in his Jewish neighbours so the Nazis would come and drag them off into the night. Efrayim, Earlville

    Look, just putting it out there, but once you know carbon dioxide doesn’t influence climate you understand that Barnaby Joyce is actually the smartest man in the Canberra political bubble. Jennifer, Edge Hill

    Another day another cringeworthy newspaper. God, I wish we had a newspaper for people who aren’t easily sucked in by government propaganda. Helen, Cooktown


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  11. The mailman’s camels have just delivered a parcel of books.

    I’ve opened one to discover that “(The publisher) acknowledges the traditional custodians of country throughout Australia and their connections to lands water and communities. We pay our respect to Elders past and present. We honor more than sixty thousand years of storytelling, art and culture…”

    F.M.S.


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  12. “The Bidens”: Is the First Family Corrupt, or Merely Crazy?

    You would have to go to china, russia or the 3rd world to find greater levels of corruption.


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  13. “(The publisher) acknowledges the traditional custodians of country throughout Australia and their connections to lands water and communities. We pay our respect to Elders past and present. We honor more than sixty thousand years of storytelling, art and culture…”

    the critical race theory version of public harakiri


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  14. You would have to go to china, russia or the 3rd world to find greater levels of corruption.

    Nah, joe takes the cake, along with the clintons and basically every other demorat and a large number of RINOs. They do so because the gap between the nominal freedom and standards of the West and what these traitors are doing is so large. In the other nations you have no expectation of honestly by leaders and there is no gap between expectations and reality.


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  15. We honor more than sixty thousand years of storytelling, art and culture…”

    47000 years of barbarism, environmental destruction and no achievements at all.


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  16. Jupes:

    Except if they’re fully vaccinated, we know that they’ll get much milder disease

    That is a lie. They know nothing of the sort. Fully vacinated people die of Covid.

    But they die more photogenically. It must count for something.
    🙂


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  17. From notafan’s own-goal:
    NSW Case Fatality Rate:

    0-9 0 0%
    10-19 1 <1%
    20-29 5 <1%
    30-39 8 <1%
    40-49 17 <1%
    50-59 39 1%
    60-69 62 2%
    70-79 84 6%
    80-89 116 15%
    90+ 40 22%

    Pandemic of the boomers.

    I think I’ll take my chances.


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  18. ‘Michael Slater arrested after alleged domestic violence incident:’

    Ms Spicer?

    Tray-ceeeeeeeeeeee? Trace? Babe?

    Wasn’t this sort of thing right up your alley?


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  19. It’s fair to say that the vaccine has a brief death reducing effect somewhere around 30-50% (relative risk) (< 1% absolute).

    It wears off rapidly (starting at three – six months) and doesn't prevent transmission or symptoms and won't last against mutations. A truly shitty over-sold, under-delivering product and technology with many as-yet unknown side effects. There's also the problem of it putting upwards pressure on the virus to mutate into more powerful strains.

    And as you see from the NSW stats above, you’re only going to die if you’re old or extremely sick already.

    If it wasn’t clown universe, it would have been limited to very old and sick people who would add it to their regime of dodgy drugs they take to stay alive another day, and normal people would all be free and this all forgotten about 12 months ago.

    But clearly there’s much something more going on than medicine and ‘health’, so now 1 year olds (0% CFR) have to have it too or they get cutoff from breastfeeding by order of the CHO of the NT, or something something.


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  20. Areff:

    Consider: she was head of the Bushfires CRC when it was taken over by ‘scientists’ who believe that, if you don’t do prophylactic burning, the forest debris will rot from the bottom at the same rate it accumulates on top, meaning fuel loads reach and maintain a state of moist, dynamic equilibrium. Presto, no more bushfires.

    Not capable of understanding that the heat generated by the fire is capable of boiling off the wet rotting debris underneath it and making it slow burn so the heat is able to continue into the soil.
    No wonder we’re losing the will to live…


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  21. Mandatory vaccination to be introduced for most WA workers, Mark McGowan says

    Workers in Group 1

    high transmission risk, a vulnerability risk or critical to the safety of the community — fully vaccinated by the end of the year.

    That’s transport, health, police etc.

    Workers in Group 2

    critical to the ongoing delivery of business and the function of the community – fully vaccinated by January 31, 2022.

    That’s retail, schools, public transport, construction etc .

    The final group – no date, but must be double jabbed if they want to work during lockdowns:

    bottle shop staff, pet stores, roadside assistance, critical forestry, critical primary industries, critical factories, manufacturing, fabrication and production, government or local government services, vehicle and mechanical repair service

    …and members and staff at the Parliament of Western Australia.

    A category insult to bottle shop staff.


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  22. Dover0Beach:

    I thought the TGA just rubberstamped FDA advice. We know the former are not privy to the data so on what grounds was this approval back in Sept made?

    That’s an awkward question to answer, DB.
    A smack on the wrist for you, young feller.


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  23. Increases in COVID-19 are unrelated to levels of vaccination across 68 countries and 2947 counties in the United States
    Vaccines currently are the primary mitigation strategy to combat COVID-19 around the world. For instance, the narrative related to the ongoing surge of new cases in the United States (US) is argued to be driven by areas with low vaccination rates [1]. A similar narrative also has been observed in countries, such as Germany and the United Kingdom [2]. At the same time, Israel that was hailed for its swift and high rates of vaccination has also seen a substantial resurgence in COVID-19 cases [3]. We investigate the relationship between the percentage of population fully vaccinated and new COVID-19 cases across 68 countries and across 2947 counties in the US.

    Interpretation
    The sole reliance on vaccination as a primary strategy to mitigate COVID-19 and its adverse consequences needs to be re-examined, especially considering the Delta (B.1.617.2) variant and the likelihood of future variants. Other pharmacological and non-pharmacological interventions may need to be put in place alongside increasing vaccination rates. Such course correction, especially with regards to the policy narrative, becomes paramount with emerging scientific evidence on real world effectiveness of the vaccines.

    For instance, in a report released from the Ministry of Health in Israel, the effectiveness of 2 doses of the BNT162b2 (Pfizer-BioNTech) vaccine against preventing COVID-19 infection was reported to be 39% [6], substantially lower than the trial efficacy of 96% [7]. It is also emerging that immunity derived from the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine may not be as strong as immunity acquired through recovery from the COVID-19 virus [8]. A substantial decline in immunity from mRNA vaccines 6-months post immunization has also been reported [9]. Even though vaccinations offers protection to individuals against severe hospitalization and death, the CDC reported an increase from 0.01 to 9% and 0 to 15.1% (between January to May 2021) in the rates of hospitalizations and deaths, respectively, amongst the fully vaccinated [10].

    In summary, even as efforts should be made to encourage populations to get vaccinated it should be done so with humility and respect. Stigmatizing populations can do more harm than good. Importantly, other non-pharmacological prevention efforts (e.g., the importance of basic public health hygiene with regards to maintaining safe distance or handwashing, promoting better frequent and cheaper forms of testing) needs to be renewed in order to strike the balance of learning to live with COVID-19 in the same manner we continue to live a 100 years later with various seasonal alterations of the 1918 Influenza virus.


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  24. Also check this little tidbit out:

    “The majority of deaths following recent locally acquired COVID-19 infection have occurred in hospital (327/372, 88%). Nine deaths in aged care facilities have been among people aged 70+, while 36 deaths occurring at home have been in a younger cohort aged 20-89, and 21 (58%) of the deaths at home were tested forensically for infection (following death).

    I presume this is the ‘with’ vs ‘from’ thumb on the scale.


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  25. So I think we can take it as a given that once a state reaches 60% vaccination, there’s some trigger in the action plan that says “60%: critical mass has been reached – floor it and smash the ‘hesitant’ with mandates for most sectors”.


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  26. The mailman’s camels have just delivered a parcel of books.
    Thru sleet & snow .. etc, etc …. I received an, A4 sized, envelope from Germany yesterday ..
    PRIORITY MAIL postmarked July 14 ……
    quite happy tho as I thought, after all this time, I’d dun me dough!


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  27. Zulu:

    I’ve opened one to discover that “(The publisher) acknowledges the traditional custodians of country throughout Australia and their connections to lands water and communities.

    Lotsa publishers now doing that Zulu, as a lot of education departments demand it to put the books into schools. The long slow march through the institutions is a reality….


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  28. ABC science show.
    Host and green loon talking about how solar and wind mean no nuclear should be built… ever.

    And solar and wind are only 3cents per kWh…

    Sounded like Bob “ burgle me bum down sport” Brown.
    Robyn “50 metres” Williams the interviewer.


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  29. So, reading between the lines gets you what:

    Two members of the notorious Hamze family have been killed in a shocking daylight shooting in Sydney’s west this morning.

    Police found 18-year-old Salim Hamze and his father Toufik Hamze, 64, slumped inside a ute at Osgood St near Woodville Rd at Guildford about 8.55am.


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  30. “(The publisher) acknowledges the traditional custodians of country throughout Australia and their connections to lands water and communities.”

    Would that be the traditional custodians who destroyed unique megafauna and bequethed us a fire prone landscape dominated by just three genera of trees?


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  31. Doc Faustus:

    A category insult to bottle shop staff.

    I think we need to designate a Texas Equivalent state in Australia and head there.
    Within a year we should be able to gain a critical mass to vote the government out and put in our own.
    Western Australia and Queensland look like being the best bet.
    Although Tasmania does have some strategic advantages – bringing in compulsory gun ownership and military service for the vote comes to mind as a means of getting rid of the Greens.
    🙂


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  32. Would that be the traditional custodians who destroyed unique megafauna and bequethed us a fire prone landscape dominated by just three genera of trees?

    Gold. That’s a keeper!


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  33. Pandemic of the boomers.
    […]
    According to the NSW stats Notafan posted, if you’re over 90 years old you have an 78% chance of surviving Covid19.

    I mean….come on.

    Well known in early 2020. And thoroughly discussed everywhere ever since.

    But better late than never.


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  34. Lord Dan Farquad has his ‘freedom day’ and the local Mainly Shit Media are lined up to report on the midnight openings. Except customer or staff on the way before midnight are liable for fines for breaking curfew. You could not make this shit up.


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  35. twostixsays:

    October 20, 2021 at 3:44 pm

    According to the NSW stats Notafan posted, if you’re over 90 years old you have an 78% chance of surviving Covid19.

    Yes.
    And if you could improve your chances from 60% to 78% by having the jab, what would you do?
    Trust me on this.
    When you’re sitting opposite a specialist who is giving you the “good news” that what you’ve got has a 90% survival rate at five years, that fleeting thought crosses your mind – “Well, some poor bugger has to be that one in ten. What if that’s me?”


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  36. We honor more than sixty thousand years of storytelling, art and culture…”

    I went out to Western Qld to have a look at some Aboriginal rock carvings. Hundreds of hand carved vaginas all over the rock walls. Must have been a busy 60k years out them ways. I wonder what they were thinking of when the carved these art works?


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  37. Well known in early 2020. And thoroughly discussed everywhere ever since.

    Quite so Doc.
    Generally accepted that this is a disease which carries off the old, chubby and/or infirm, with rare exceptions.
    I don’t think anyone here has suggested otherwise.


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  38. twostixsays:
    October 20, 2021 at 3:44 pm
    According to the NSW stats Notafan posted, if you’re over 90 years old you have an 78% chance of surviving Covid19.

    And what was the pre-Kung Flu chance of surviving to 100?


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  39. Interpretation
    The sole reliance on vaccination as a primary strategy to mitigate COVID-19 and its adverse consequences needs to be re-examined, especially considering the Delta (B.1.617.2) variant

    617? The Dam Busters variant?


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  40. Top Endersays:

    October 20, 2021 at 4:03 pm

    So, reading between the lines gets you what:

    Two members of the notorious Hamze family have been killed in a shocking daylight shooting in Sydney’s west this morning.

    Snort cackle.
    My ears pricked up listening to the news earlier.
    “Two men shot dead – yada, yada – one of the men was an innocent victim.”
    Helloooo.
    Only one?
    What can you tell us about the other one.
    (Quite apart from the implied statement about summary justice, Beirut style).


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  41. And solar and wind are only 3cents per kWh…

    Except when they’re not and gas/battery owners can gouge $15/kWh to keep the system up and the lights on.


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  42. And what was the pre-Kung Flu chance of surviving to 100?

    The average age at death pre Kung Flu was something like 83.
    The average age of death from Kung Flu is – ta-dah – hand me the envelope … 83!


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  43. Having some success with the Redwing Parrots Vs Flying Mice (Pigeons)
    I strongly suspect one of the brothers of the male/female pair have found out where their siblings are getting tucker from and have turned up today and joined forces against the flying rats.
    Plenty of squawking going on and a few feathers being lost.
    I was using a squirt gun against the doves with a stack of red food dye in it.
    The red speckled doves were being attacked by their mates for being different.


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  44. Petition opened only a few hours ago.

    Petition EN3411 – Condemn Public Policy Vaccination Program for ALL Australians

    Petition Reason
    Every Australian child, adult and the wider community are the Australian citizens who run this country. The politicians were elected to serve us to govern this country as a Free and United democracy.

    Petition Request
    We therefore ask the House to condemn the recent direction of public policy regarding vaccination and the public health officials scapegoating the unvaccinated as being responsible for disease outbreaks when vaccine failure provides a more plausible explanation. We want the vaccination program and the restrictions placed scrapped from Australia for all Australian Citizens, businesses and society. We are opposed to the human rights ‘dialogue’ model being promoted by the government and its official which amounts to coercion, bullying, fear, bribes and corruption. We want the COVID-19 pandemic state of emergency lifted now. We all say no to the restrictions placed upon us, the police brutality and brute force placed upon our human rights. We demand the resignation of all state premiers, the prime minister and our government. We ask for an immediate enquiry into the legislative overreach of force used by government officials as directives, and the definitions of such in Australian law that are placed on Police and our Constitutional Army to undertake. investigate immediately the ruling of governance on peaceful citizens to shoot them with rubber bullets and unlawful force as a crime against humanity. We need our rights of free speech to debate this topic as it’s time reference is unreasonable to the length of these restrictions have been placed. No more silence or harassment.

    Closing date for signatures: 17 November 2021 11:59 PM (AEST) (29 days left)

    https://www.aph.gov.au/e-petitions/petition/EN3411?fbclid=IwAR3JM2bpnH2wICJxiJUsmftuKmvKL4gd-3xfjD7783glbPDu_5p1bvHhvDg


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  45. The mongs who have allowed this disgrace to happen (assuming its reporting is right) are the same mongs who have spent the best part of the last decade having a case of the sads that some members of the special forces were killing the enemy.

    Shocking betrayal of brave Afghan interpreter who worked with Aussie troops as he’s EXECUTED and his family left in ‘extreme danger’ – as the extraordinary reason he was left stranded is revealed
    Afghan army officer who worked with Australian forces has been executed
    Interpreter and family had desperately been attempting to secure visa to Aus

    The father had been desperately trying to secure a humanitarian visa for himself and his family since the Taliban’s recapture of Afghanistan after the withdrawal of US troops in August. They had missed the first round of evacuations because they had not been told by Australian authorities they were eligible.

    But his sister, who lives in Australia, has revealed through the family’s lawyer on Wednesday her brother was recently executed.
    Family’s lawyer revealed to ABC on Wednesday that Taliban had executed him
    The family are still in hiding and in ‘extreme danger’ waiting for Australian visa



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  46. Winston:

    JC, you really are blind to your own excesses, aren’t you?

    He’s just a sad character who thinks his rabid attack posts are somehow amusing. You can tell when he knows he is losing as he ramps them up. It is a dead giveaway.


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  47. What day does the Greens culling start Winston? Wouldn’t want to miss that. Do we get a go at the liars and the sfl as well?

    I don’t want to cull the bastards.
    I want them and their mates cut off from taxpayer funds forever.


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  48. GreyRanga:

    What day does the Greens culling start Winston? Wouldn’t want to miss that. Do we get a go at the liars and the sfl as well?

    That’s the beauty of the Tasman Line. As soon as we get a a majority in Parliament and start enforcing the Gun Ownership diktats, Greens and Hippies will run, screaming in terror at even the thought of having one of those devil instruments in the house.
    Some will fly to Victoria, but the Pure-at-heart won’t even wait for seats on aircraft. They’ll swim Bass Strait. Unsuccessfully.
    Think of it as evolution in action.*
    *manages to slip in Larry Niven quote…


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  49. Lotsa publishers now doing that Zulu, as a lot of education departments demand it to put the books into schools. The long slow march through the institutions is a reality….

    On the front page of Keith Payne VC’s autobiography?


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  50. McClown is a humpknuckle.

    But lets not forget to thank Zac F*ckup and the GreenLeft liberals who gifted him to us.

    Even Baldrick would have blanched at a plan that started with ‘we will outflank them from the left” and then got progressively worse.


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  51. JC, you really are blind to your own excesses, aren’t you?

    He’s just a sad character who thinks his rabid attack posts are somehow amusing. You can tell when he knows he is losing as he ramps them up. It is a dead giveaway.

    Yea Faulty2, I’m the one with excesses.

    1. Turtle Head posted a comment the Chinese military was going to take over Australia by running China Airlines planes filled with troops landing at Melbourne airport, thereby foreshadowing the beginning of an invasion.

    2. Turtle head made the following comment last evening.

    Anyone care to bet on the growth in the Western World economy halving in the next 6 months and the inflation rate doubling?
    Measured by G7 & inclusion of Australia, India and South Korea.

    I did. I took him up on the bet and he offered a dollar to bet his side. Just earlier, Nurse Betty raised that to $2.

    Then there’s you earlier today, doubting the death numbers from Covid. You posted this diatribe:

    All the Covid stats etc can and are being obfuscated but dead bodies is what counts. Obviously this data is embarrassing so they don’t release it.

    I reminded you with a pic of the mass graves in NY and asked that if you wanted to see others, I’d be happy to post pics of the mass graves in Italy and the UK.

    And now, rather than directly talking to me directly, you’re attempting to posse up with the shrunken skull and you’re calling me sad.

    You’ve tied yourself in knots over this covid stuff disturbingly so, to the extent you’re hoping people die awful and untimely deaths if they disagree with your take.

    You’re just a useless sad figure who’s now become a figure of ridicule. A buffoon. Turtle head has always been that way so it’s nothing new to him and he’s comfortable with that characterization.

    Sanchez.

    See how they posse up. They’re trying here too.


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  52. Dotsays:

    October 20, 2021 at 4:57 pm

    Anyone got an idea when that cuck Perrotett is going to end all of this COVID nonsense?

    Victorianistan residents would gladly trade Hunchback for a little Dom Perrottet ’96 at the moment.


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  53. Sanchez.

    See how they posse up. They’re trying here too.

    Well, they’ve got my posse to contend with.
    Me, Cisco and Pancho.
    The Three Amigos.


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  54. I don’t want to cull the bastards.
    I want them and their mates cut off from taxpayer funds forever.

    But you just said you didn’t want to cull them?


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  55. The Frolicking Mole:
    Well that was a great idea – not!
    Make yourself dependent on a nation you’ve made enemies with for the last 500 years over an essential element of your society and industry.
    Almost as clever as Germany doing the same with Russia.


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  56. Winston.

    It almost like relying on an essential item which can be switched on and off at a moments notice is a bad idea.
    Especially just after you have wrecked 90% of your own power generation in an insane quest to run the UK on solar and wind power instead.

    Might be a lesson in that somewhere.


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  57. Think of it as evolution in action.*
    *manages to slip in Larry Niven quote…

    Heh.
    Mrs Eyrie’s words when working at a small hospital emergency department one Saturday afternoon after a corpse was brought in rather the worse for wear after said about to be corpse forgot to duck under a bridge while “train surfing”.


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  58. Would that be the traditional custodians who destroyed unique megafauna and bequethed us a fire prone landscape dominated by just three genera of trees?

    Serious question, Roger… or anyone else who knows: what other botanical species existed prior to this extinction? Considering how well they grow in Australia, there must have been deciduous varieties like oaks, elms, ashes etc – all species which don’t recover after being burnt.


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  59. Must have been a great old laugh between the two of you, right Eyrie? Did you or she piss on the dude’s grave (both?) being grave pissers from the early years? 🙂


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    Deadman used to say it was perfect for a free state project.

    – Bass Strait between freedom and the north island
    – Small population so easier to move the numbers
    – four proper seasons


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  61. JC:
    Another of your ‘tells’

    And now, rather than directly talking to me directly, you’re attempting to posse up with the shrunken skull and you’re calling me sad.

    Only people who write in support of the enemy de jour, are joining the pile on.
    All else are courageous supporters of Truth and Justice. That is until JC has another shit day and feels like attacking the first person who looks sideways at him.
    Then watch the venom flow!


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  62. We honor more than sixty thousand years of storytelling, art and culture…

    and thank you for tolerating our sucky obsequiousness.

    Because we are dedicated to your satisfaction,

    we are now offering a free blow job with every subsequent purchase


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  63. Gabsays:
    October 20, 2021 at 4:37 pm
    Petition opened only a few hours ago.

    Done.

    Gab, you are (and always have been) a Cat Treasure.

    Thanks for bringing these important issues to our attention.


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  64. oaks, elms, ashes etc – all species which don’t recover after being burnt.

    A wetter, cooler climate would have seen species like Nothofagus, Eucryphias and the like, now limited to Tassie. In warmer areas, much the same as on the Atherton, similar but cooler on the Illawarra escarpment. Understory of Macrozamia, ferns.

    Even with the proliferation of eucs, there is more biodiversity in urban Sydney bushland than in a similar area of Europe. We are blessed with wonderful plants. Shame they behave like grenades.


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  65. What own goal you yappy chihuahua?
    People claimed the statistics didn’t exist, they did, and never once has anyone here suggested its a grim reaper that could kill anyone!

    If you thought it relevatory that the vast majority of deaths are of people over 80 aka not boomers I’d be wondering what rock you’d been hiding under all this time .


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  66. Only people who write in support of the enemy de jour, are joining the pile on.

    Turtle head you WERE on of the worst instigators at the old site. Laughably, you threatened legal action against Sinclair or me, you big bawling scumbag. You often accuse others of bullying. Pile ons and posses are the epitome of bullying actions, you disgusting nancy.

    Recall the time someone came onto the site to defend your nursing job? Was that your wife and also, is she aware you told us she went to bed drunk every night? Does she know that?

    All else are courageous supporters of Truth and Justice. That is until JC has another shit day and feels like attacking the first person who looks sideways at him.

    I didn’t have a shit day at all. As you’re possibly aware, Turtle head, I believe you’re one of the biggest buffoons posting comments. You challenged people to bet with you yesterday and I took up the challenge. You then turned it into a dollar bet, you piking nurse betty.

    Then watch the venom flow!

    You know the rule. Don’t talk to me. Don’t grovel to me. You continually break the rule. I believe Sinclair put you on that rule as a condition, didn’t he? Perhaps the same should apply here. Now go crying the blog owner because I’ve been mean to you.


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  67. Covid is killing the Silent Generation and is picking off some fat/co-morbid Boomers plus a few highly compromised younger ones.

    We talked about this last year.


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  68. Even then, the Silent Generation and Boomers are proving remarkably difficult to kill.

    Crappy Made in China virus. Not fit for purpose. It needed help.


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  69. What own goal you yappy chihuahua?

    Eyrie, Faulty2… That’s you. I started it off as a barking “chihuahua”, but yapping sounds much better. Much funnier.

    It’s a real pisser.. get it.


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  70. NSW Kung Flu fatality rates:-

    0-9 0 0%
    10-19 1 <1%
    20-29 5 <1%
    30-39 8 <1%
    40-49 17 <1%
    50-59 39 1%
    60-69 62 2%
    70-79 84 6%
    80-89 116 15%
    90+ 40 22%

    You are aged in your 50’s.
    Whatever the vax fatality rate (1/1,000,000 or 1/100,000), when you see a fatality rate of 1/100 from the virus, would it be logical to get the vax or not?


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  71. From Gab’s link at 4.37.pm:

    We want the COVID-19 pandemic state of emergency lifted now.

    This is critical!

    Our pathetic premiers are now exploiting the SoE well beyond its brief. These jumped up little bureaucrats – state and federal – need to know that, as their employers, we demand that they cease their posturing, dump the Covid scare and get back to work.


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  72. We certainly did calli.
    Incidentally as you are here could I ask you to keep an (incidentally unvaxxed) family member in your prayers.
    Devastating news today that has nothing to do with covid.


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  73. Covid is killing the Silent Generation and is picking off some fat/co-morbid Boomers plus a few highly compromised younger ones.

    We talked about this last year.

    Fault2, the yapping chihuahua says it’s all lies. Until he sees the body bags.

    I posted this earlier.

    NY Mass graves

    I’ll add some more

    Italy mass graves

    UK mass graves.

    Faulty2, go piss on these, you ridiculous, worthless piece of shit. Nothing personal though.


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  74. We’re all going to catch it of course. Unless we’re locked forever in our playpens, it’s going to happen. The ideal is to get a mild form and develop some natural immunity.

    The fly in the ointment, as it’s been tweaked in a lab, is that natural immunity might not be so easy to get. This isn’t helped with all the background noise from propagandists of all persuasions yodelling their messages and seeing who can be the most ridiculous.

    And our own Australian brand of laconic acceptance of the most diabolically inane, untalented and preposterous excuses for politicians ever to walk the face of the earth.


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  75. You are aged in your 50’s.
    Whatever the vax fatality rate (1/1,000,000 or 1/100,000), when you see a fatality rate of 1/100 from the virus, would it be logical to get the vax or not?

    Probably not unless you are ill with another chronic issue.

    With vaccine efficacy being reported as low as 30%, herd immunity is impossible.


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  76. regarding the DAEN database of adverse reactions, I just wanna ask something of the very clever and witty punters of this august community …

    preface:
    given that in a any sort of blind trial where a placebo was given, some of the placebo group will ALSO report adverse reactions and symptoms.

    Q1:
    for the dead the people in this database are they —
    a. drama queens?
    b. faking it?
    c. confused?

    Q2:
    Who in this most dire of dire pandemicals, who exactly is getting the placebo?


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  77. callisays:

    October 20, 2021 at 5:52 pm

    Covid is killing the Silent Generation and is picking off some fat/co-morbid Boomers plus a few highly compromised younger ones.

    This occured to me the other day.
    All this emphasis on the vax, whilst ignoring the other contributing factors.
    Friends of ours (total StandWivDans) are proudly waving their vax certificates around but acknowledge that they have porked up in LockDan. And I mean really porked up.
    Almost everyone will get this bug at some stage. I have cut back on the turps and ramped up the exercise. Got rid of a couple of kgs with a couple more to go, and the heart rate monitor says my CV fitness is improved.
    That is just as important as the vax.
    But our ‘Elf Perfessionals haven’t said boo about that.


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  78. Plus, the pandemic has already wiped out most of the vulnerable.

    All of this crap should be over right now.

    Australia. You can lose your job without a vaccine, but you can come into the country as a foreign non-resident.


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  79. Plus, the pandemic has already wiped out most of the vulnerable.

    Front loading, buried under a shedload of stupid lockdowns and posturing and economic and social ruin.

    Just in case we might miss it. We haven’t.

    Reminds me of one of G.K. Chesterton’s stories, later reprised by Christie. They tried to hide the bleedin’ obvious under a mound of health orders and repression. Tells you all you need to know about the calibre of our politicians.


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  80. Latest Queensland Tourism data shows that International visitor numbers FY June 21 were 49,000.

    Knuckle Dragger says:
    October 20, 2021 at 11:51 am

    49,000 footballers, WAGs, reality TV show contestants and people from Hollywood got to go to Queensland in the FY ending June 2021.

    That’s 49,000 INTERNATIONAL visitors to Queensland last financial year, almost 1,000 per week. The footy players and their hangers on are an additional cohort. I wonder how they select the A-Listers who can come and go regardless of closed borders.


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  81. Nothofagus

    Cancelled for homophobia 40,000-odd years before cancelling was cool.

    Damned Ancient Hipsters. (Speaking of which, has Bruce Pascoe found any evidence of pre-settlement IPAs, man-buns and flannelette shirt materials yet?)…


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  82. As I’ve argued before, the reason governments are insisting on magical 80 and 90 percent vaccination coverage is – essentially – to cover up the fact that natural immunity is what will actuate the downslope of the bell curve. Can you imagine what would happen if an Australian jurisdiction had a vaxx rate of 25 percent and a death/hospitalisation rate no worse than the 90 percenter states and territories?

    In about 12 weeks (rough estimate), double-vaxxed booster sceptics will be losing their jobs and being pilloried by the media. In 2022, triplers who refuse a quad will be next. Watch.


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  83. Covid is killing the Silent Generation and is picking off some fat/co-morbid Boomers plus a few highly compromised younger ones.

    Really, the thing to do would be to make everyone fat, 84 and comorbid. That’s how the public are being treated anyway.

    Like that Quentin dwarf bloke on Mike Willesee who broke an arm and a rib every time he sneezed.


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  84. Ultimately, C.L., something’s going to give.

    I can’t see the endless prospect of useless “boosters” gaining traction, except for the most ridiculously risk averse. They’ve had to bully and bribe and propagandise for the initial round. Each time, it will get harder and harder to convince people, especially as they see the things lose potency.


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  85. I make the following prophesy: The wretch Daniel Andrews will die from a horrible flesh rotting disease well before a normal man’s full span and most everyone in this state will rejoice at his suffering.


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  86. A cunning tyrant like Dan will already have his escape plan. I don’t think flesh eating disease will be part of it.

    Possibly a private jet. And a safe haven.


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  87. Sorry.
    My estimate earlier today of Queensland’s normal inbound international tourist numbers were under-cooked.
    The number for the year to September 2018 was 2,800,000.
    Anyone buying the line from PalaceChook and Miles that a mere 5,200,000 Queenssslanders are going to pick up that slack in the tourist market is smoking serious hydroponic dope.
    Oh, and that “snapback” thing?
    Travel agents in China, Japan, USA and Europe will be warning customers off, big-time.
    Why would you tip clients into that shit-show?


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  88. Councillor scolded by Newcastle Mayor for shocking ‘unclothed’ Zoom appearance
    THEAUSTRALIAN.COM.AU4:25
    The best Zoom fails ever: ‘I’m not actually a cat Judge. Yes, I can see that’
    The Councillor’s initial appearance as seen by the lord mayor and other councillors was not visible to the public.
    The Councillor’s initial appearance as seen by the lord mayor and other councillors was not visible to the public.
    HELENA BURKE
    FEDERAL POLITICS REPORTER
    NCA NEWSWIRE
    2 HOURS AGO OCTOBER 20, 2021
    A Councillor has been slammed by a Lord Mayor after he appeared “unclothed” in a council Zoom meeting on Tuesday night.

    Around halfway through the meeting of the development applications committee, Newcastle Lord Mayor Nuatali Nelmes abruptly stopped speaking after she caught sight of a shirtless Allan Robinson on the video call.

    “Councillor Robinson, can I just call you to order, you cannot be unclothed on a council meeting,” she said.

    “It’s not OK. It brings council into disrepute and I just don’t want to deal with it.

    “Please don’t do it.”

    The Newcastle Mayor stopped speaking abruptly after she spotted the shirtless Mr Robinson on the Zoom call.
    Mr Robinson responded to Mayor Nelmes’ concerns, but his reply was inaudible.

    The Councillor’s initial appearance as seen by the Lord Mayor and other Councillors was not visible to the public, but he did appear shirtless on the public broadcast as he replied to Mayor Nelmes’ request.

    After Mr Robinson put on a shirt, Mayor Nelmes continued to the next agenda item and the meeting moved on.

    Newcastle council referred NCA NewsWire to the Office of Local Governments’ meetings rules and standards.

    “Councillors will be required to be appropriately dressed when attending meetings by audio-visual link,” the rules read.

    Newcastle Mayor Nuatali Nelmes said being ‘unclothed’ in a meeting brought Newcastle council into ‘disrepute’.
    This is not the first time Mr Robinson has stirred controversy within Newcastle’s local government.

    The former jockey, who became an independent Councillor in 2012, was recently dropped by his party after a scathing report found he had made a series of abusive comments about his colleagues.

    Mr Robinson was accused of “relentless sexism and homophobic bullying” after making remarks in meetings and via emails about the sexuality and appearance of Mayor Nelmes and other Councillors.

    In one email referred to in the report, Mr Robinson poked fun at his female colleagues for their weight.

    Mr Robinson was accused of “relentless sexism and homophobic bullying” after making remarks about the weight and sexuality of his colleagues.
    Mr Robinson was accused of “relentless sexism and homophobic bullying” after making remarks about the weight and sexuality of his colleagues.
    “I’ve spoken to Grahame about this something needs to be done. If it was in fleet street where fatsos parents live it would have already happened,” Mr Robinson said in one email.

    “She’s a big chunky woman, she has got legs like Blocker Roach, she is a big unit,” he wrote in another.

    The local Councillor was also caught openly referring to his homosexual colleagues as “poof(s)” and “custard(s).”

    The Newcastle independent party announced in July that Mr Robinson would not be included on their ticket at the next election.

    Mr Robinson said he intended to run as a “rogue independent” in light of this.

    Councillor Robinson was contacted for comment.

    HELENA BURKE. FEDERAL POLITICS REPORTER



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  89. I always use to feel disgust at those fundamentalist Christians who looked forward to a literal coming about of Revelations. I had a female colleague once who told me that she expected to be up there looking down on the torment of the unsaved.
    Since watching that last clip of Daniel Andrews on Sky, I can now see the attraction.
    I hope to watch him writhe in agony for the shit he has pulled.


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  90. Parliament House Petition EN2753 – No Mandatory Covid-19 vaccination which closed in the middle of July garnered around 310,000 signatures. It was basically summarily dismissed by Hunt, you would think that getting 310,000 voters cranky would be the last thing a politician facing re-election soon would want to face.

    Hunt says that the vaxxines aren’t experimental, even though he said in Parliament that they were experimental, and the jabees would be taking part in the world’s largest experiment.

    Link to the petition, the link to the Minister’s response (PDF) is at the bottom of the page.


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  91. There is an exodus of support workers in the disability sector. I know of a group home where three workers are on unpaid leave because they will not submit they would rather be without a job than submit, they are from countries formerly part of the USSR. And there are many more who have been in touch.


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  92. Patience, Tinta. There will be a reckoning. There always is.

    calli if there’s one thing I have cultivated over the last 30 years it has been patience. I only have to see the exactness which is coming to the morally and spiritually corrupt Gladys Berejiklian to know that there is always a reckoning. We may not always see it but I know there is a reckoning in ways that are unfathomable and just.


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  93. As I’ve argued before, the reason governments are insisting on magical 80 and 90 percent vaccination coverage is – essentially – to cover up the fact that…

    No; it’s to cover their arses.


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  94. It was basically summarily dismissed by Hunt,

    That was a flabbergastingly disingenuous response by Greggo.

    It could have been written as a staged text to be torn apart by sixth form students in the old “clear thinking” part of the syllabus.


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  95. Arky says:
    October 20, 2021 at 6:59 pm

    I make the following prophesy: The wretch Daniel Andrews will die from a horrible flesh rotting disease well before a normal man’s full span and most everyone in this state will rejoice at his suffering.

    Fournier’s gangrene would be appropriate, that’s what took King Herod away. Your body rots while you’re still living in it, imagine walking around in great pain smelling like a rotting corpse. Gangrene of the genitalia is part of the cycle, an account of Herod’s last days records that his testicle exploded and the floor was covered in worms.

    I think I’d prefer being thrown down the stairs again to that.


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  96. Arky:

    I just hope there’s beer while we watch the divine, painful writhing of the wicked.

    And Top Hats.
    (Per the statement by ?Whitlam after a commoner accused him of wearing a Top Hat at the Melbourne Cup)
    “Everyone will have Top Hats, Comrade.”


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  97. Possibility of some sunlight onto Chairman Dan’s “health advice”.

    Secret documents that informed the Andrews government’s controversial decision to plunge Victoria into lockdown must be released, a state privacy watchdog has ruled.

    In a bombshell decision, the Office of the Victorian Information Commissioner (OVIC) ordered the release of 176 Department of Health documents that guided the government’s decision to enforce stage 4 lockdown restrictions across the state on February 12.

    Although this tired old cynic believes the documents are lost or heavily curated.


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  98. JC:
    Just a few quick questions while I make some tea –
    1 Do you use an Excel Spreadsheet to make a list of everyone on the Cat who offends you in some way?
    2 How far back does it go?
    3 How many are on it?
    4 Or do you just use your photographic memory (TM) to list all the perceived insults over your long and illustrious life?
    I’ve met people who carry a grudge, but you’re something special. A decade or more for some of them – on an anonymous blog to boot.


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  99. a nice tribute to David Amess, Catholic Herald may be paywalled

    Much respect to the memory of that gentleman and condolences to his family.

    If only we had more than a few of his calibre, more than content to represent their constituents rather than climb the greasy pole of ministerial ambition.


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  100. tired old cynic believes the documents are lost or heavily curated.

    Like when Gillard became PM and public interest re-emerged about her role in the AWU swindle of the early ’90’s?
    And when enquiring minds started exploring:
    (a) A request for the old Victorian Supreme Court files was met with “sorry, they’ve gone missing – and there’s no record of who signed them out so they’re impossible to trace”:
    (b) 3000 miles away, a request for the old WA Corporate Affairs Commission files was met with “sorry, they’ve gone missing – and there’s no record of who signed them out so they’re impossible to trace”.
    Obviously a right wing conspiracy to get rid of evidence by which Julia could have triumphantly vindicated herself. Poor Julia!!


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  101. Arkysays:

    October 20, 2021 at 6:59 pm

    I make the following prophesy: The wretch Daniel Andrews will die from a horrible flesh rotting disease well before a normal man’s full span and most everyone in this state will rejoice at his suffering.

    I don’t care what it is.
    As long as the doctor says …

    “Let me be clear. And I don’t apologise for giving you these test results. It’s hard, I know. It’s just as hard on me. But the truth is, you’re fucked. No cure, no treatment, no pain relief. You will die writhing in pain in a pool of your own leaking bodily fluids. But remember. We’re both in this together.”



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  102. Turtle head

    I don’t quite understand this newly found manliness in you. Are you off the oestrogen meds these days? Also, do you consider, faulthy2 as having traded down from your previous team members? He’s the pits ,right?

    Truth is, I’ve never really liked you. I’ve said to you before that I think you’re trash, garbage , and there’s no reason we should interact. That’s just me though and I’m sure you’ll find pals who’ll think your inane comments are pretty good. Do fuck off and don’t talk to me anymore. My view of you won’t ever change.
    Lastly is she drunk again?


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  103. Patience, Tinta. There will be a reckoning. There always is.

    I wish you were right. Stalin died peacefully in bed; so did Mao, Pol Pot. Castro, all of the NK freaks; they got a few Nazis. I’ll believe it when the hunchback falls down another flight of stairs and this time doesn’t wake up.


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  104. Does anyone have an answer to this.

    Foreign language films, ie French, German , Italian … why is the filler music/ songs almost always sung in English? It’s like 99% British or American songs.


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  105. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/10/china-tests-new-hypersonic-nuclear-capable-missile-circled-entire-globe-low-orbit-us-military-officials-stunned/#insticator-commenting
    I was unaware the missile went around the globe before it went for its target.
    I wonder how fast it actually went?
    Does anyone have specs in non China measurements?

    (Like the Japanese motorcycle engines in the 70’s that measured HP at the crank instead of the rear wheel, or top speeds with a 55 lb bullet shaped jockey?)


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  106. Roger:

    I wish you were right. Stalin died peacefully in bed; so did Mao, Pol Pot. Castro, all of the NK freaks…

    You’re discounting what comes afterwards.

    You’re missing the point, Roger – those bastards are the ones now advising Lucifer who to torture next.


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  107. Just got a spam email from some financial advice mob, BetaShares.

    “China is ramping up its efforts to lower carbon emissions, pledging carbon neutrality and limiting steel production.”

    Sure, sure they are.


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  108. Why you would put shit on Jap bikes is beyond me.

    The Hayabusa is like a portable personal suicide booth.

    Might get a GSX-250R after this shit is over. Love that Shoei “Stimuli” helmet too. Pity there isn’t matching leathers.


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  109. This one’s for military type Cats – Keith Payne’s autobiography makes damn fine reading. Not even being awarded a Victoria Cross saves you from being fvcked around by the public servants at D.V.A……..


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  110. You’re missing the point, Roger – those bastards are the ones now advising Lucifer who to torture next.

    Lucifer is a fallen angel; he doesn’t take advice from mere humans.


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  111. What kind of all powerful being writes the laws of thermodynamics & relativity?

    Laws of physics are human attempts to think God’s thoughts after him.

    For a while there we all thought Newton had it figured out.


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  112. Stalin died peacefully in bed; so did Mao, Pol Pot. Castro, all of the NK freaks

    Cardinal George confirms that he said it, and also adds that the quote has most frequently been used without his important follow-up sentence.

    “I expect to die in bed, my successor will die in prison and his successor will die a martyr in the public square. His successor will pick up the shards of a ruined society and slowly help rebuild civilization, as the church has done so often in human history.”


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  113. Stalin died peacefully in bed;

    No, he didn’t.
    He spent 4 days writhing on the floor in a puddle of piss while his henchmen ran around in circles trying to save their own skins and find someone to blame.
    Almost certainly poisoned
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  114. JC
    If you ever hang out with the hoi polloi in Europe, you must know that a large percentage of the music they listen to is English language.
    I went to a soccer match in Paris once, all the music was in English, everyone sang along with gusto.
    I can remember we will we will rock you.
    Sitting amongst hundreds of French it was pretty hilarious.
    On long haul buses in Spain
    and Portugal the same, a little bit local but lots of English hits and memories.


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  115. You are aged in your 50’s.
    Whatever the vax fatality rate (1/1,000,000 or 1/100,000), when you see a fatality rate of 1/100 from the virus, would it be logical to get the vax or not?

    I’m just shy of 50, in the overweight cat. but without any actual comorbidities and it’s 1 in 10000 for me. Why would anyone take a experimental vac still in the trial stage with odds like that?


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  116. Outstanding.

    Back from shops. Turn on teev. Australia v India. T20.

    First ball I see. Warner. LBW for 1.
    Second ball. Mitch Marsh. Caught at slip. Golden duck.

    Time to break out the Turkey and unfiltered Marlboro Reds.


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  117. Deadman used to say it was perfect for a free state project.

    – Bass Strait between freedom and the north island
    – Small population so easier to move the numbers
    – four proper seasons

    I’ve been thinking of this lately. And three very good points. Energy independence also a + and it’s hydro.


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  118. It was Paris St Germain v Monte Carlo.
    Monte Carlo scored an own goal.
    It was actually thousands of fans tbh.
    I once rented an apartment in Lyon from a former French Rock Star. It hadn’t made him very rich.
    He had a great collection of back stage passes in his la toilette though.


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  119. Deadman used to say it was perfect for a free state project.

    – Bass Strait between freedom and the north island
    – Small population so easier to move the numbers
    – four proper seasons

    25000 years ago it was covered in glaciers.


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  120. For struth. The NT News:

    A 50-year-old man is recovering in hospital after he was chased by a cow and hit in the chest by the animal.

    You can only tow a cow for so long.


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  121. First ball I see. Warner. LBW for 1.
    Second ball. Mitch Marsh. Caught at slip. Golden duck.

    And Michael Slater emulating the Andrew O’Keefe implosion.
    All we need is for Steve Smith to be caught on tape snorting powder and the picture will be complete.


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  122. Dover
    Is it really experimental though? AZ lends towards the more traditional form of vax, which means after 3 months the risk of the drug is minimal . To all intents the risk is zero.

    One in 10,000 is .0001. I thought the risk was higher than that.


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  123. Senate stymies migrant character test proposal

    Olivia Caisley
    Reporter
    @livcaisley
    53 minutes ago October 20, 2021
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    The Morrison government’s attempt to strengthen the migrant character test and make it easier to cancel the visas of violent criminals has failed for a second time after its initial proposal was defeated two years ago.

    The government’s Migration and Citizenship Legislation Amendment (Strengthening Information Provisions) Bill was voted down on Wednesday by Labor, the Greens and independent senator Rex Patrick.

    The vote was tied 25-25, which meant it could not proceed to the next stage and will be sent back to the House of Representatives.

    Labor, the Greens and Rex Patrick…..


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  124. What’s the status of the notion that the vax can cause female infertility?

    I have seen some concerns raised; so called “debunking” articles simply say “no evidence”.

    But I haven’t seen where any such evidence has even been looked for. There does not seem to be any record of female infertility effects made during the clinical trials.


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  125. JCsays:

    October 20, 2021 at 9:27 pm

    Dover
    Is it really experimental though? AZ lends towards the more traditional form of vax, which means after 3 months the risk of the drug is minimal . To all intents the risk is zero.

    One in 10,000 is .0001. I thought the risk was higher than that.

    I think the table said 1% for 50-59s and <1% for younger age groups.
    Let's just say it is 0.5% for people in their desparately late 40's.
    That is 1 in 200.
    Even 0.1% is only 1 in a thousand.
    Death by vax isn't close to that.


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  126. When I first read about little Cleo disappearing from that campsite near Carnarvon, I was somewhat perplexed that her mother was asking Facebook for help that morning. It’s an isolated campsite. I’m not sure what Facebookers could do about it. Maybe it’s a generational thing; I dunno.

    Hope an pray they find the little lass.


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  127. Dogs

    There’s enough observational evidence now and no more kids than average are being born with a couple of heads and arms

    Sheilas were pregnant when the vaxes were introduced at the beginning of the year and they/some took the vax. No abnormal births have been reported out of the ordinary.


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  128. C.L.
    When I first heard about “kidnapping on camping trip”, sadly I thought it was probably just another parent from a broken marriage not bringing the kid back after an access visit.
    It does not look good.


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  129. Death by vax isn’t close to that.

    just because my mate says the VX gives some prophylaxis, it doesn’t mean that the VX is free from problems.

    maybe you’re minimizing yr risk to covid by VX,
    concurrently though, maybe you’re doubling yr risk considering all causes.

    but I’m sure you thought of that


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  130. There’s enough observational evidence now and no more kids than average are being born with a couple of heads and arms

    A couple of arms is standard issue, JC.
    More than one head is quite unusual this side of Bass Strait, though.


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  131. Joe hildebrand on PML is fucking idiot. And the other fools let the fucktard talk. But I must say Kenny rips the fucking fool while Bernardi couldn’t get a word in edgeways.


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  132. You can answer Dorothy Dixers put to you in pressers whilst standing next to fat Auslan chicks, or you can answer questions put to you in more formal surroundings by this bloke (the Hun):

    I Cook Foods has engaged one of Australia’s top lawyers, Robert Richter QC, to take on the Andrews government over the “Slug Gate’’ scandal.

    Mr Richter will fight the civil litigation against two tiers of government next year as I Cook Foods owner Ian Cook seeks damages over the shutting down of his business.

    This chap’s been on the top rung of the criminal barrister ladder for decades.

    Mr Richter has worked on some of the biggest cases in Australian legal history.

    Among clients he has successfully defended are the late businessman John Elliott, Melbourne identity Mick Gatto, Labor Party minister Theo Theophanous and Cliff Lockwood, a Victoria Police officer charged with the murder of Gary Abdallah in 1989.

    The Abdallah job was a belter. Lockwood shot Abdallah six times with his service revolver, then grabbed his offsider’s and finished him with a seventh. Richter defended him, and the jury acquitted him.

    Hot Button Sutton. Check your email.


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  133. Does anyone have an answer to this.

    The English speaking countries won the war.

    The Americans played a huge role. Hollywood played a huge roll. To the victors the spoils.

    #culturewars


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  134. Yep.
    It is an individual decision (or should be).
    I am not trying to convince anyone here one way or the other (and I think most personal decisions have been locked in anyway).
    Most of what I post is just “thinking aloud” about my own decision process.


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  135. Knuckle Draggersays:
    October 20, 2021 at 9:18 pm

    First ball I see. Warner. LBW for 1.
    Second ball. Mitch Marsh. Caught at slip. Golden duck.

    Time to break out the Turkey and unfiltered Marlboro Reds.

    As long as SuperMitch isn’t allowed within a trillion light years of the test team ever again, I wish him well in all other forms of cricket.

    But enjoy the spectacle KD.


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  136. Cleo Smith search: Up to 20 registered sex offenders living in Carnarvon
    Sarah Steger
    The West Australian
    Wed, 20 October 2021 10:40AM

    There are almost 20 registered sex offenders living in the Carnarvon area, police investigating the mysterious disappearance of Cleo Smith have revealed.

    Deputy police commissioner Darryl Gaunt made the alarming admission this morning, telling 6PR officers had followed up with the long list of local sex offenders throughout the five-day long investigation.

    “Part of the investigative strategies have included reaching them and making inquiries into their whereabouts and movements and at this point in time we’re very comfortable where we sit with those inquiries,” he said.

    Mr Gaunt said the search for little Cleo was growing more grim by the hour, conceding “the more time goes on the less chances we’ll find Cleo alive”.

    He also said no one was being ruled out by police, including Cleo’s mum and step-dad Ellie Smith and Jake Gliddon, or her biological father Daniel Staines — but said investigators were not currently “looking at the parents in that nature”.

    It comes after Mr Gaunt revealed earlier this morning that no members of the public who’d been staying at the Blowholes campsite in the hours before Cleo vanished without a trace from her family’s tent on Saturday morning had seen the little girl.

    “We do have other evidence that we don’t disclose publicly that reassures us that she was there. So there’s nothing to infer that she wasn’t there at this stage,” he said.



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  137. The Abdallah job was a belter. Lockwood shot Abdallah six times with his service revolver, then grabbed his offsider’s and finished him with a seventh. Richter defended him, and the jury acquitted him.

    A chap I am acquainted with worked on the Ty-Eyre (Walsh St murders) taskforce.
    His view was that Cliffy was not terribly sharp.
    His words to me were something like, “Fuck. Unloading six into him was one thing. But you’d think there might have been a moment of reflection before number seven.”


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  138. But, yes, Richter is rarely defeated* and will tear a goose like Sutton to bits.
    Sutton will be desparate to get it settled as a “gesture of goodwill” for a “series of misunderstandings”.

    * only when the ABC can run two years of defamation against his client.


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  139. Rogersays:
    October 20, 2021 at 8:41 pm
    I’ll bite; what did come afterwards?

    Why…God’s judgement.

    If there is a God, he left this planet long ago.

    We are circling the drain.


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  140. Is it really experimental though? AZ lends towards the more traditional form of vax, which means after 3 months the risk of the drug is minimal . To all intents the risk is zero.

    ‘Lends towards’ lacks clarity. Virus vector and mRNA vaccines are still experimental and have never had the mass take-up they’ve had this year. And I’ve posted a vid in the last week that suggests that the repeated use of these non-classical vaxxes represent which haven’t been clinically tested yet and which are reflected in the caution with boosters.

    One in 10,000 is .0001. I thought the risk was higher than that.

    JC and Sancho, I gave the odds for someone my age, weight and health, not everyone within my age group. If the choice is why anyone would take the vaxx why would you incl. those unlike me in terms of health status in the determination?


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  141. Happily, Stalin died a prolonged, badly managed, and fairly disgusting death.

    Sure, but it was a natural death and any and every poor bastard goes through the same. I’m talking about a Ceausescu type death or Il Duce.


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  142. Mr Richter will fight the civil litigation against two tiers of government next year as I Cook Foods owner Ian Cook seeks damages over the shutting down of his business.

    Two tiers of government?
    That would be the State Elf Department and Dandenong Council.
    Sutton may be shitting bricks, but the spiky-haired, flabby armed ‘elf lezzo from Dandy Council is about to become acquainted with the underside of the bus.
    Sutton will be terribly disappointed that he was so misled by Dandy Council.


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  143. Sancho Panzersays:
    October 20, 2021 at 9:48 pm

    Sancho, in about 18 months of pandemic there have been 281 deaths “with” covid of Australians under the age of 70.
    There are about 22.5 million Australians under the age of 70.
    Risk of dying with covid in an 18 month period aged under 70 in Australia? .00001249. [OK, as the spivs say “past performance is no guide to future performance”, but in an order of magnitude sense that’s what we’re talking about.]
    And that’s before even starting to check how many of the 281 actually died of covid as compared with dying of something else and just being covid-positive, and how many who did genuinely die of covid had serious comorbidities anyway.
    Whereas if you take the vaxx, there’s a 100% chance that you’ve taken the vaxx, so the raw vaxx figures are the correct ones to use. (And query whether it’s as low as the official figures say – at least in Qld doctors have been gently discouraged from putting “covid vaxx” as a cause of death on a death certificate.)
    As you say, it’s up to you, but always, and I mean ALWAYS, question government stats.


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  144. Whereas if you take the vaxx, there’s a 100% chance that you’ve taken the vaxx

    One of the fundamentals in my thought process is that there is something approaching 100% chance of virus exposure within tye next 2-3 years, so I treat that as a wash.


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  145. Yes, poor old Cliffy.

    Resigned in the 90s post-acquittal. Worked as a locksmith, of all things before heading to Darwin.

    Tried to join the NT jacks, who told him to fuck off. Became a taxi driver and a chemical enthusiast with a bent for commercial gain. When they raided his poxy one-bedder, they found a gigantic pile pf precursor amphet drugs, and a bucket next to his bed filled to the brim with his own shit because the dunny stopped working. Allegedly.

    He was (and probably still is) that kinda guy. I think he’s in Timor.


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  146. I’m just shy of 50, in the overweight cat. but without any actual comorbidities and it’s 1 in 10000 for me. Why would anyone take a experimental vac still in the trial stage with odds like that?

    Your 1 in 10,000 chance of death depends on your contracting the disease in the first place.

    Depending on your circumstances, short-term, the risk of that in Australia is tiny. So, estimating your current absolute risk, multiplying 1 in 10,000 by ‘tiny’ = minuscule – probably far less than your Jab risk.

    In the longer term, if we are all going to get infected, your absolute risk will move towards your age risk.
    Then you might reassess.


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  147. And I’ve posted a vid in the last week that suggests that the repeated use of these non-classical vaxxes represent which haven’t been clinically tested yet and which are reflected in the caution with boosters.

    (my estimate) What, 2 billion people have been given the vax since the start of the year and side effects have been reported back. That’s more than clinical testing. Far more.

    JC and Sancho, I gave the odds for someone my age, weight and health, not everyone within my age group. If the choice is why anyone would take the vaxx why would you incl. those unlike me in terms of health status in the determination?

    Okay, let’s assume the chances of one dying are that one in 10,000, but with that we should also include the risk of one getting it over one’s life is 100%. Everyone is going to end up getting it.

    The risk of dying with the shot is 0ne in a million and if you’re really that worried, testing for risk will raise that to one in 10 million or more.

    Is it worth the risk? Yep, it sounds like it.


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  148. More about this:

    …if you’re really that worried, testing for risk will raise that to one in 10 million or more.

    We have an off the boat Italian working for us at the family business. It sounds like the idiot is on Italian blog I wonder if there’s a NovaCatallaxia, where he’s been fed frightening stuff about the vax. He took a week off this week for a number of doc visits and tests he’s organized to hopefully, obtain an exemption. I don’t think he will, although he asked me not to give out negative vibes when I said this.

    They’ll test the fuck for all sorts of shit, I guess. His heart.. can they test for clotting or does that just show up?


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  149. Sutton will be desparate to get it settled as a “gesture of goodwill” for a “series of misunderstandings”.

    I’m keen to see Richter QC laying into Sutton & likewise into the council numpties.
    Were I in Ian Cook’s shoes (& I have been) I’d want Richter to rip their entrails out.

    IMO there’s at least 6 people involved who should serve a gaol term. One year minimum, preferably two.
    What was done at ICook foods was malicious, wicked, deliberate, and wilful.


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  150. Your 1 in 10,000 chance of death depends on your contracting the disease in the first place.

    Depending on your circumstances, short-term, the risk of that in Australia is tiny. So, estimating your current absolute risk, multiplying 1 in 10,000 by ‘tiny’ = minuscule – probably far less than your Jab risk.

    In the longer term, if we are all going to get infected, your absolute risk will move towards your age risk.
    Then you might reassess.

    Yes, completely understand the odds I gave above is the worst case. It’s why I’m sanguine about the virus; I’d actually like to contract it and gain the requisite natural immunity.


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  151. Mr Robinson was accused of “relentless sexism and homophobic bullying” after making remarks about the weight and sexuality of his colleagues.

    komrade the revolution must be front of mind at all time


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  152. Thanks Dover.
    I just did the Oxford Risk thingy.
    My risk is a little higher than yours due to one risk factor which I am aware of (and probably a few years in age).
    Not terribly surprising for me, but it would be an excellent tool for anyone screaming “we’re all gonna diiiieee!”, because even “high risk” people have an good survival chance.
    However, I still lean towards vax being less dastardly than the virus … for me.


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  153. One of the fundamentals in my thought process is that there is something approaching 100% chance of virus exposure within tye next 2-3 years, so I treat that as a wash.

    Fair comment, but remember that the covid cases reported for the last 18 months are almost certainly understated.
    Certainly here in Victoria we’re incessantly being told that the official turdologists have identified covid in the sewerage in LGA’s that have no reported cases. I’m not sure how to estimate what percentage of the population have already actually had the virus and just not noticed, so I guess it’s hard to factor that into a decision, but it’s a factor nevertheless. I’d start by looking at what percentage of those tested are found to be positive. The percentage for the whole population would presumably be less, but query how much so. (Or maybe not. Of course those tested are just tested at one time, whereas for others (and even those tested and shown negative) there’s an 18 month period where they might have got it without it showing up in stats.)

    Therefore, query whether the chances of being exposed to the virus over the next 2 or 3 years would be hugely greater than for the last 18 months (apart from the simple doubling of the time period, of course). Probably somewhat so if the promises about “opening up” are kept, but even then there’s data which suggests masks and lockdowns don’t achieve much, so even that’s not certain.

    Hard to say, but it doesn’t seem straightforward to calculate that covid risk is orders of magnitude greater than vaxx risk if you’re well under 70 and in good health.

    And of course in deciding whether to take the “provisionally approved” new jabs, other unquantifiables include whether and when Novavax will be available (and is, as it seems from the tests, safer), or treatments or other safer vaxxes will become readily available.


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  154. Anyone considered how long it will be before you are required to get a “Double Jab” to get Certification to work?

    For example, a “RSA” (Responsible Service of Alcohol Certificate)? Or a “Food Handling Certificate”? Or any other types of “Certificates” you care to think of.

    The state can smash your work options with the stroke of a pen.


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  155. Black Pigeon, Cultural War

    thanks rick, that was nice.
    I haven’t watched a BP video for a year or two.

    he was 100% right all the way up until the very end


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  156. Dover

    One of your posters, who shall remain nameless unless at some stage he wants to out himself, he caught it last year and told me he continues on steroids because of the after effects. It’s not the flu. I’m not suggesting not to go about life and enjoy yourself. I’m very far for that. This is a seriously nasty little illness that can leave you with long lasting problems.
    I had bronchitis when I was a kid of about 4 or so. I can still remember it. It left scar tissue in one of the lungs and that area doesn’t work, according to the docs. No biggie as I would never have known it was there without imaging. But this was bronchitis in me as a kid.


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  157. JCsays:

    October 20, 2021 at 10:17 pm

    Neilson

    Stop ruining the discussion but pretending you’re smart and sexy. (You’re not). Let’s stick with Dover’s given risk profile.

    Yeah, we were at cross purposes there.
    I was using generic age-bandings of risk and dover had run his own calc through the Oxford Risk thingy.
    Aaaaaand … cue the cries of “but Oxford is in the pocket of Big Pharma”.


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  158. JCsays:
    October 20, 2021 at 10:17 pm

    How tiresome. Josemite Çam is in one of his “hold the magnifying glass in front of my penis” moods.

    And has no actual critique of anything I said.


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  159. The state can smash your work options with the stroke of a pen.

    your work authorization is now dependent on health-care by subscription.

    overseen by the same authority that kept iFoods going strong


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  160. (my estimate) What, 2 billion people have been given the vax since the start of the year and side effects have been reported back. That’s more than clinical testing. Far more.

    I think its less than half that for AZ, Pfizer and Moderna and we have little clue of the side effects because the reporting system is trash.

    Okay, let’s assume the chances of one dying are that one in 10,000, but with that we should also include the risk of one getting it over one’s life is 100%. Everyone is going to end up getting it.

    The risk of dying with the shot is 0ne in a million and if you’re really that worried, testing for risk will raise that to one in 10 million or more.

    Is it worth the risk? Yep, it sounds like it.

    I’m not worried about the vaxx, I just don’t see the point of having it given the 1 in 10000 of dying from it. Moreover, I think, given these odds, that it would be better for me to contract COVID and develop natural immunity because it is likely to give me better protection over time compared with the vaxx. Alternatively, although these non-classical vaxxs may confer limited protection in the short term, we have no clinical data about their safety over time especially involving repeated ‘boosters’.


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  161. When I was running the old business an Aboriginal old duck actually went to Carnarvon to “ steal” her granddaughter from her mother.
    Apparently the daughter was a pisswreck and chemical enthusiast.
    But the big problem was a known kiddie fiddler keeping an “ open house” with booze and drugs for free/ cheap.
    Gave him access to kids while parents were drugged out.

    Lived outside town is about the only indication of where he was though.


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  162. Given that anecdotal “evidence” is the order of the day, here goes.
    We live near a small-ish town.
    Population of the LGA is about 15,000. I wouldn’t say everyone knows everyone else’s business, but if something untoward happens, news spreads quickly.
    Last time I looked the LGA was something close to 90% with one vax and nearly 70% with two.
    I haven’t heard of one serious adverse vax reaction.
    Sure, it is just anecdotal, and it is a small sample in the scheme of things.
    But it carries the same weight as “my sister-in-law’s best friend’s beauty therapist’s mother collapsed and died straight after the vax”.


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