Open Thread- Weekend 30 Oct 2021


Hunting Birds at Night, Jean-François Millet, 1874

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Indolent
Indolent
October 30, 2021 10:43 pm

It only takes a couple of “brave souls” to end the Victorian madness.

My feeling is that someone in the Premiers office will “spill their guts”. Dan is a deadman walking, surrounded by vultures.

Dan won’t be Premier at Christmas time. It’s over.

Before or after he gets his permanent dictatorship legislation through?

MatrixTransform
October 30, 2021 10:45 pm

someone in the Premiers office will “spill their guts”. Dan is a deadman walking, surrounded by vultures.

dunno if that’s better or not.
the cultural marxists need a dead eyed-leader
pray his replacement isn’t worserer

rickw
rickw
October 30, 2021 10:45 pm

Bunnings is great. Squadrons of clueless nubile chicks in boots and shorts. What’s not to love?

Did you accidentally use the nubile instead of chunky?

Baba
Baba
October 30, 2021 10:47 pm

Bluddee hell, that’s dying and going to heaven stuff. Are most of them brunettes?

I’m not sure Rabz. The young fellas say it’s hard to tell these days since landing strips went out of fashion

Baba
Baba
October 30, 2021 10:49 pm

Easy. “The Odd Angry Shot.”

Oh please.

Jorge
Jorge
October 30, 2021 10:50 pm

Wonder if Bert reconciled with his son. Kid had some issues.

Rabz
October 30, 2021 10:51 pm

MatrixTransform – the Overload

Squire, the song and the film clip are a veritable treasure trove.

“Hold your horses …”

“You’d best kick that dickhead singer out of the band …”

I love it because it’s not only a magnificent piece of pop, it’s a sly tribute to Mark E Smith.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 30, 2021 10:53 pm

You’ve become quite nasty since you got the clot shot, Rosie.

Yes, Rosie is snarky. But unlike the Queen Bees who do nothing other than throw shade on patriotic triers and jape with each other, Rosie does bless the Cat with pertinent links and a determined scepticism which invites further investigation.

I upticked this in support of Rosie, agreeing with the sentiment that she provides a useful scepticism here, some which I certainly share. I suppose I might be included as some Kitteh (Queen Bee of any sort is a bit of a stretch for any individual Kitteh) trying to ‘throw shade on patriotic triers’ when I critique the far-right efforts of those with haywire Q-Anon beliefs they wish to impose on the world via military fantasies. As long as they stay as fantasies and keep out of my hair, fine by me. And I am all in favour of protesting mandatory vaxx and other curtailments on liberty and the work of the anti-democratic state.

Armadillo
Armadillo
October 30, 2021 10:53 pm

Before or after he gets his permanent dictatorship legislation through?

Before. He’s gunna get knifed. Dan is finished. Done.

Baba
Baba
October 30, 2021 10:53 pm

Did you accidentally use the nubile instead of chunky?

Noooo. Not accidentally.

Indolent
Indolent
October 30, 2021 10:55 pm
Baba
Baba
October 30, 2021 10:56 pm

(Queen Bee of any sort is a bit of a stretch for any individual Kitteh)

Lizzie, you lovable old duck, here you go again, assuming genders.

local oaf
October 30, 2021 10:57 pm

Kelly’s Heroes irritated me to bits. What was a 70’s era peacenik/hippie doing in the middle of WWII?

I wonder if they were trying to cash in on a bit of Catch 22 style insertion of 60s hippie into 40s setting. Maybe for a young audience who weren’t there in the 40s and wouldn’t care about ridiculous anachronisms.

rickw
rickw
October 30, 2021 10:58 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 30, 2021 10:58 pm

Easy. “The Odd Angry Shot.”

Oh please.

“Hey Harry, what could you set your watch by?”

“This fvcking rain”

rickw
rickw
October 30, 2021 10:59 pm

Noooo. Not accidentally.

I need to find a different Bunnings then…..

Baba
Baba
October 30, 2021 11:01 pm

I wonder if they were trying to cash in on a bit of Catch 22 style insertion of 60s hippie into 40s setting.

Maybe you’re right. I have heard that the 60s didn’t arrive in Australia until the 70s. And if you remember the 70s you weren’t there.

rickw
rickw
October 30, 2021 11:02 pm

Before. He’s gunna get knifed. Dan is finished. Done.

Christmas without Dickhead Dan would be the ultimate Christmas.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 30, 2021 11:02 pm

Son is selling his house in Sackville St Kew .

It’s stages of life stuff when it comes to your kids, Min. Time to just let them get on with it.
We’ve found they tend to not want parental real-estate advice. They like to make their own mistakes.

Fair enough, too.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 30, 2021 11:10 pm

Lizzie, you lovable old duck, here you go again, assuming genders.

lol. Mea culpa. I should have known better as Screaming Queens have been around forever.
Especially for those who actually did float through partytime in the 70’s.

But it’s so hard to keep up these days.
It’s not so much the genders that get me muddled, it’s the pronouns. 🙂

Rabz
October 30, 2021 11:11 pm

Glittering … 🙂

Armadillo
Armadillo
October 30, 2021 11:17 pm

To quote and old saying “Dan has gotten too big for his boots”.

I’m fully expecting him to fall down a staircase. Agin.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
October 30, 2021 11:19 pm

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
October 30, 2021 at 10:23 pm
The best war movie ever was the Dirty Dozen. Prove me wrong.

Can’t beat Patton.
Not in a million years.
Dirty Dozen is good but.

The Battle of Britain.
The Dam Busters.

Whoever mentioned The Odd Angry Shot, yes, that was good too.

Patton was ruined by the fantaslyland denigration of Montgomery and Admiral Cunningham to make Patton look like more than he actually was, but as a piece of fiction it was very great viewing.

Rabz
October 30, 2021 11:20 pm
Megan
Megan
October 30, 2021 11:25 pm

Just not patchwork.

Thanks, calli. Already spent three years of my life and half my retirement savings on that particular work of the crafty devil. Gave it away after the Prince asked me why I spent a small fortune on various large pieces of fabric only to cut them up into little pieces and put them all back together to make a large piece of fabric, all the while accompanied by many tears and much swearing, screaming and foot stamping. And that’s before I got to the Olfa cutter.

I have three almost but not quite finished quilt tops and two completed quilts. Maybe I should return to quilt purgatory and complete them for my unvaxxed sins.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 30, 2021 11:26 pm

From when movies were movies.

Last nite I was feeling a bit poorly (as they say in Britain) and not up to much, so I clicked on a piece of free-to-air movie called ‘Marley and Me’ made in the early 90’s. One of my dog-loving female friends adores it and it seemed like some mindless watching. It tells the story of a pennyless journo in Florida getting an impossibly obstreperous Labrador and idly writing a few columns about its antics. The columns went viral in the days before viral internet stuff and the journo’s fortunes went on the national high rise, for dog columns rather than the ‘serious’ work he aspired to. The theme is then the dog in family life and family life itself as he marries, has kids, gets richer, has more kids, the kids grow as they do, the family moves to Philadelphia to a bigger house and lifestyle, as families can do. And that is the story. Love, life, family, a wacky dog, and learning to not want to achieve the big-noting dreams of youth but to be happy with what you have. Hairy, scornful at first, kept glancing at it for the Florida scenes, muttering about De Santo and we should move etc. and then got drawn in. His word for the movie was so appropriate: quaint. It had the charm of a time we have now lost. No message except living life well, no lecturing about social concerns, no diversity characters, and the expected heart-rending scene at the end when they bury the dog. It could never be made like that today.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 30, 2021 11:28 pm

It was of course a soggy piece of romantic mulch, but you knew that.

Armadillo
Armadillo
October 30, 2021 11:29 pm

Auto correct also needs to fall down a staircase.

It’s as if the people who designed the software purposely wanted to fuck up sentences intentionally.

They should have named it “auto fuckup”.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 30, 2021 11:33 pm

The Battle of Britain.
The Dam Busters.

“Sink the Bismark.”

“The Longest Day.”

Armadillo
Armadillo
October 30, 2021 11:33 pm

One of my dog-loving female friends adores it

mOnster?

Rabz
October 30, 2021 11:33 pm

Got disinvited from a craft group meet

Err, Megs – this is life when you’re a personage who isn’t hoovering bullshit en masse.

You are not like them. This is school children contrariness. Revel in it, we should – we’ve earned it.

Baba
Baba
October 30, 2021 11:37 pm

I bet Men’s Sheds are interesting places these days.

Baba
Baba
October 30, 2021 11:38 pm

And Rotary clubs.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 30, 2021 11:39 pm

Patton was ruined by the fantaslyland denigration of Montgomery and Admiral Cunningham to make Patton look like more than he actually was, but as a piece of fiction it was very great viewing.

I don’t have an exact reference, but, from memory, it was the British author, Robin Neillands, who pointed out that, by the time of D-Day, the much despised Bernard Montgomery had as much combat experience as the American high command – combined.

Digger
Digger
October 30, 2021 11:40 pm

What about a mix of the Virginia and Astute Classes?

I wouldn’t go for that. It means more training; more spares, more tactical procedures etc etc.

We probably need action now, 2040 before the first nuke is delivered and the game could already be over.

I can see some value in the mix and match option in these unusual times though. The Collins cannot last forever so if the Japanese Taigei-class submarines are available, we could try to negotiate 6 of them immediately and order 6 Virginia’s or Astutes immediately as well. The Taigei is relatively cheap, uses lithium ion batteries, is arguably the most advanced non nuke boat in the world and the Japanese only decided to build their fleet from 16 to 22 in 2010 and the last one, the Taigei is already being fitted out.

The six Taigei’s would fill the closer local indian/Pacific/SE Asia requirements for subs and the Virginias or Astutes, when we get them, would cover the more extended strategic requirements. 12 boats, same crew numbers, better coverage, more availability.

The Japanese have built their last 6 submarines from the laying of the keel to commissioning in 4 years average each with the first of the last 6 laid down in 2013 and the 6th in 2019. They have been laying down one per year and building 4 to 5 at a time. We could have 6 fully operational, off the shelf ‘starter’ boats delivered before 2030 for little more than the upgrade price of the Collins.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 30, 2021 11:40 pm

That movie naturally got us to reminiscing about our little bitzer Maltese Dachshund, the long-term family dog during our two children’s childhoods, along with the very special Burmese cat. Dog lived to 14, cat to 18. Both sent off by the vet in their final days to great heartache and tears and an expensive eternal resting place in pet cemetaries. You never forget an animal with whom you share your life. The sad place, that’s what Hairy still calls the park near the vets where our dog walked his last shaky legs that fateful day. Good boy, we said, good boy, knowing of the great deceit to come, even though it was truly his time.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 30, 2021 11:43 pm

We could have 6 fully operational, off the shelf ‘starter’ boats delivered before 2030 for little more than the upgrade price of the Collins.

Why not do both? Stop spending ridiculous amounts of money on boondoggles like hydrogen as fuel and other insane flights of climatic fancy and get serious spending some money on defense.

Armadillo
Armadillo
October 30, 2021 11:54 pm

I bet Men’s Sheds are interesting places these days.

They serve a purpose in society. If you are down on your luck and are feeling suicidal, you only need to walk in the door. Talk to those sad fucks for about 5 minutes and you realise how lucky you are.

MatrixTransform
October 31, 2021 12:01 am

Men’s sheds are for men without sheds
er … can I borrow the communal shovel?

Armadillo
Armadillo
October 31, 2021 12:03 am

The Vietnamese and Afghans didn’t have submarines.

I suspect the greatest deterrence to an invasion may lay elsewhere.

Megan
Megan
October 31, 2021 12:03 am

Th is is life when you’re a personage who isn’t hoovering bullshit en masse.

You are not like them. This is school children contrariness. Revel in it, we should – we’ve earned it.

Correct, Rabz. For some extraordinary reason, over the last few days I have found everything going on a source of hilarity. I think I’ve laughed outright at the absurdities, the predictability, the stupidity, the outright insanity I have observed both up close and at a distance as the sheep try to figure out how to (a) enjoy their new found ‘freedom’ while (b) suppressing the cognitive dissonance as they desperately pretend everything is totally fine and life is back to normal.

I’m most definitely revelling in it.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 31, 2021 12:04 am

Entirely predictable (the Hun):

The Saturday Herald Sun can reveal lawyers for the Department of Health on Friday night lodged an appeal to overturn an order by Victoria’s privacy watchdog for the release of more than 100 pages of departmental briefings.

Andrews government lawyers have argued releasing the material would reveal “high-level deliberative processes of government”, risk jeopardising the trust between public officials and a minister, the preparation of future briefings and ability of key decision-makers to implement appropriate health directions.

Don’t worry about the jeopardised trust between public health officials and the Minister. Worry about the jeopardised trust from the public, who happen to pay for both the Minister and his flunkies.

But one explosive document released last night has revealed for the first time, department concerns about the impact of lockdown on schools saying “the benefits may not be proportionate to the social and economic costs.’’

Oh geez. You think?

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 31, 2021 12:06 am

Dan won’t be Premier at Christmas time. It’s over.

Which Christmas do you reckon its over.
December 2022?

Digger
Digger
October 31, 2021 12:08 am

The Vietnamese and Afghans didn’t have submarines.

They didn’t bring war to us either…

Rabz
October 31, 2021 12:09 am

Entirely predictable

And beautifully unconventional … 🙂

Armadillo
Armadillo
October 31, 2021 12:12 am

Pigsy, the Victorian Government won’t fall from the outside, it will fall from the inside.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 31, 2021 12:13 am

This is so called Victorian Premier Andrews

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itmNiTwHOsM

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 31, 2021 12:16 am

Burnt bridges are a bitch to rebuild.

Indeed. Especially when it comes to family. I just agree to disagree with some on some things.

I’ve had many fights of the years with my Big Sis. We always make up, but cautiously, and she tends to keep the upper hand in it; that’s just her, I think to myself. No doubt she also thinks that’s just me.

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
October 31, 2021 12:22 am

Best war movies of all time.
“Zulu”
“Dambusters”

Both show real incredible courage in the face of insurmountable odds, albeit dramatised.

Who today would have the guts to climb aboard a lumbering heavily laden bomber knowing your odds of survival were minimal, but you go anyway, or to stand firm in a thin line of redcoats as thousands of savages advance on you?

There is a reason that Victoria Crosses awarded are rare.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 31, 2021 12:24 am

Arma…

check who is The Law…

certainly not The People, as in Common Law.

It is entirely ‘feelz’ law as we are now subjected to.

The only reason that the Fabian High Court of Australia overturned a Victorian Communist Court in the Cardinal George Pell matter is because they would have been ridiculed on the World Stage.

Law… who is it good for????

Rabz
October 31, 2021 12:29 am

Sunday morning in the Cross, yeah, tired of paying my taxes

My mind isn’t here yeah, but I’m found a chair I can relax in
(for the bright lights)

My ex just walked in through the front door
I really don’t wanna care anymore (for the bright lights)
What the f*ck did he bring that girl for?

I really don’t wanna care anymore
Care anymore
Care anymore

I only care about one thing

Won’t somebody get me a drink?

Gab
Gab
October 31, 2021 12:34 am

ickwsays:
October 30, 2021 at 10:42 pm
Jim Caviezel, one heck of a speech:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1CiCur4QVw

Damn awesome!

Armadillo
Armadillo
October 31, 2021 12:37 am

They didn’t bring war to us either…

Ideology such as Communism and Islamist extremism aren’t confined by physical borders, but they are protected by them.

Nuclear weapons are becoming increasingly redundant in the modern world. Glassing an entire country is pretty much pointless.

The battlefield has shifted.

Whalehunt Fun
Whalehunt Fun
October 31, 2021 12:42 am

Disagree. Glass a couple dozen countries and the rest will fall into civil behaviour quick smart. People are polite when they know you are desperate for the slightest reason to kill their families.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 31, 2021 12:44 am

I’m watching “Sharpe.”

“There Are Ladies Present, I Would Have Thought There Were Gentlemen Present”

Whatever happened to those days? Gentlemen could settle their differences with “Pistols for two,at dawn, and breakfast for one? “

Oh come on
Oh come on
October 31, 2021 12:49 am

Is the Australian men’s market ready for skirts yet?

Yeah, it seems we’ve been ready for the last several years at least.

Gab
Gab
October 31, 2021 12:50 am

RickW, what Jim Caviezel said about trusting in Jesus is so true. A good friend of mine, father of five, sole breadwinner, wife homeschools (and the kids are just amazing!) was out of a job for a few weeks, he went about applying for many jobs and simply trusted in Jesus. Last week landed an awesome job with a large organisation. When they asked for reference checks he declared he was not jabbed. No problem, they said. He got the job.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 31, 2021 12:50 am

or to stand firm in a thin line of redcoats as thousands of savages advance on you?

“Zulu Dawn.” I’ve walked over that battlefield, and you can trace the course of the battle from where Durnford’s men fired the first shots, in the donga, to where the main firing line was, through to where the “last stands” took place…

“Fix bayonets, and die like Englishmen.”

Digger
Digger
October 31, 2021 12:59 am

Ideology such as Communism and Islamist extremism aren’t confined by physical borders, but they are protected by them.

The type of war we need submarines for has not shifted at all. The weapons may have but the delivery of armies, supplies, fuel etc hasn’t.

Decent submarines and ideal choke points are significant deterrents when a potential enemy can’t drive train or truck loads of the most necessary commodity in a non nuke war… people. Backed up by fuel, ammunition, supplies medical services all of which need ships.

The projected next major shooting war for us is in support of major allies against China and China will need all those things if they want to bring the war to us and come here. Our best possible deterrent is submarines, with or without nuclear propulsion or weapons… and capable of firing next generation long range hypersonic anti ship missiles when they are developed in the short term…

Armadillo
Armadillo
October 31, 2021 1:00 am

Disagree. Glass a couple dozen countries and the rest will fall into civil behaviour quick smart

As much as I’d like to see New Zealand nuked as an example to everyone else, it’s probably not a good idea. Most of those fuckers are living in Bondi.

The pricks are still whinging about an “underarm ball” from 40 years ago. Glassing their homeland might be problematic. Ditto the Lebanese in Western Sydney.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 31, 2021 1:08 am

Whalehunt Fun says:
October 31, 2021 at 12:42 am

Disagree. Glass a couple dozen countries and the rest will fall into civil behaviour quick smart.

send in the APS will completely destroy them.

Gab
Gab
October 31, 2021 1:10 am

Beautiful heartfelt message from Monica Smit for all those who felt forced to take the jab. (4 mins)

https://rumble.com/voe48n-a-message-to-those-who-have-taken-the-jab-against-their-will.html?mref=6zof&mc=dgip3&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=reignitedemocracyaustralia&ep=2

”They’ve spent billions and billions of dollars preparing for this over the last decade … it was designed to make us feel like we had no choice. And now we’re being faced with permanent pandemic legislation in Victoria … and it’s a really tough time …”

Armadillo
Armadillo
October 31, 2021 1:10 am

Decent submarines and ideal choke points are significant deterrents

You could alternatively legalise gun ownership with the stroke of a pen. The ink involved would be a fraction of a cent, compared to the billions of dollars the military would require to buy submarines, high heels and lipstick.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 31, 2021 1:13 am

Righto. My night’s done, and I will now retire to the boudoir.

Australia v England in the T20 World Cup. Straya batting.

Warner. Gorn. 1
Smith. Gorn. 1.

I don’t need to see anything more. Outstanding.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 31, 2021 1:17 am

https://freedomaustralia.freeforums.net/thread/1580/cat-sites-freedom-australia

Despite explaining the difference between WordPress sites like the Cats’ and this Bulletin Board, see the Administration Section below, most people keep trying to find equivalence.

There is no comparison.

This site has never tried to be anything but a reference point for Australian Freedom.

AdamCat found himself in an existential Australian Covid nightmare and got condemned for not doing enough.

DoverCat has now found he needs to become an Amazon affiliate and ask for contributions to keep his site going.

So much for the smarmy cult accusing this site of harvesting email addresses and appealing for money… hi Frank.

And I’m glad that DoverCat has bitten the bullet, so to speak, to source the money he needs to keep his Cat going.

It is not easy.

I have curated an Australian and International Blog sections that I consider worthy of supporting.

Go and do your thing while you still can!

Oh come on
Oh come on
October 31, 2021 1:23 am

I bet Men’s Sheds are interesting places these days.

Remember the ‘long term unemployed’ cohort that resulted from the deindustrialisation that occurred during the late 1980s-early 1990s? 50% of those people (predominantly men) never worked again. Goodness knows how many lost their families, lost everything. Many drank themselves into an early grave, or found faster routes to that same destination. A good part of whatever remained washed up in Men’s Sheds.

I don’t mock Men’s Sheds. A lot of what made this country decent can be found in such places.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 31, 2021 1:31 am
FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 31, 2021 1:42 am

All Australian PS are fkn dangerous.

Armadillo
Armadillo
October 31, 2021 1:52 am

Remember the ‘long term unemployed’ cohort that resulted from the deindustrialisation that occurred during the late 1980s-early 1990s?

Cue the violin music. No one is guaranteed a job for life. Get over it.

50% of those people (predominantly men) never worked again. Goodness knows how many lost their families, lost everything. Many drank themselves into an early grave, or found faster routes to that same destination. A good part of whatever remained washed up in Men’s Sheds.

Show us the links and statistics to support that statement. I very much doubt you can, because it’s emotive rubbish.

Men’s Sheds were a politically motivated wankfest. Much like school halls, laptops for all and whatever other waste of taxpayers funds they could come up with at the time.

Armadillo
Armadillo
October 31, 2021 1:54 am

50% of those people (predominantly men) never worked again.

You can start here. Links and supporting documents please.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 31, 2021 1:57 am

And some fkwits get on here and put down those that have signed Australian Secrecy Agreements!?

Commercially you, Frank, can think of them as Non Disclosure Agreements.

But I appreciate that the Northern Territory Government had to lie about the sale of Darwin Port to China.

Armadillo
Armadillo
October 31, 2021 1:58 am

Once you dredge up a few facts on the above, you can continue on “fact finding” with this pearler. Links please.

Many drank themselves into an early grave, or found faster routes to that same destination. A good part of whatever remained washed up in Men’s Sheds.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 31, 2021 2:03 am

Frank

Did you notice who drove Andrews China deal and who was shafted???

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 31, 2021 2:05 am

Armadillo says:
October 31, 2021 at 1:58 am

the good one’s would lay a bet.

JC
JC
October 31, 2021 2:11 am

Oh god.

Military Tourette’s always leads to all the other manifestations.

Armadillo
Armadillo
October 31, 2021 2:16 am

Pigsy. I’ve read all your comments over the last month or so.

I have no idea what you are talking about. Nobody does. It’s all jibberish.

You probably need to call JC’s hotline (1300 181 181).

Armadillo
Armadillo
October 31, 2021 2:19 am

JC. Incoming. Man the phone.

JC
JC
October 31, 2021 2:26 am

There’s no incoming it’s outgoing/

The only solution is shock therapy at 350
Volts for a hour on each temple.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 31, 2021 2:27 am

Armadillo says:
October 31, 2021 at 2:19 am

JC. Incoming. Man the phone.

he’s waiting to put an order in with his broker.

Armadillo
Armadillo
October 31, 2021 2:30 am

Keelhauling seems to be all the rage at the moment. See if you can talk him/her/it into it.

A necktie in the unisex toilet is so “yesterday”.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 31, 2021 2:31 am

Armadillo says:
October 31, 2021 at 2:16 am

Pigsy. I’ve read all your comments over the last month or so.

I have no idea what you are talking about. Nobody does. It’s all jibberish.

slow learners are catered for at Pigsy school.

It’s okay.

You won’t be laughed at.

Armadillo
Armadillo
October 31, 2021 2:36 am

he’s waiting to put an order in with his broker.

Probably wants to buy into into the “Devils Lettuce” market.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 31, 2021 2:37 am

much laughing ensued.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 31, 2021 2:45 am

When communism is fully in place in Australia cities I wonder where the city hordes will find the food to steal?

Armadillo
Armadillo
October 31, 2021 3:05 am

Parliament House has nice buffet. As does Kirribilli.

We might have to step over a few corpses to form an orderly queue, but everyone will get fed.

Armadillo
Armadillo
October 31, 2021 3:50 am

You don’t bite the hand that feeds you.

It’s a pretty common and well understood saying. Another is that “a bird doesn’t shit in its own nest”.

Dan Andrew’s and the CFMEU are the epitome of that. It’s not by accident that Dan went “full on NAZI” with the riots. Setka demanded it.

You only need to see how Setka was prepared to throw his thugs into the fight against his own members. Plenty of video footage to prove that.

Staircase Dan had/has plenty of reason to worry. You now have a situation whereby pressure is mounting for Dan to resign. He won’t, because he’s stuck.

I sense a man that is absolutely desperate. He has to “follow through”.

Having said that, I still think Dan will be gone by Christmas. Why? Because there will be “whistle blowers” coming forth.

Tom
Tom
October 31, 2021 4:01 am
feelthebern
feelthebern
October 31, 2021 6:20 am

Chelsea top of the table.
Not a bad way for it all to end.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 31, 2021 6:21 am

Munich top of the kraut league so both my fav teams on top.

Winston Smith
October 31, 2021 6:36 am

Two stix:

Remember last year? I knew people with hands that were red from all that shit they were so manic about using it. Holy shit people are mental.

People are panicked.
This is the intention.
A panicked citizenry can be herded.
Unfortunately for the ones who start the herd running, the mob cares not who started the panic.
Nor does it care who gets underfoot.

Rabz
October 31, 2021 6:42 am

Chelski top of the table

Those mighty Reds are barely hitting their stride, bern.

Just ask poor li’l Ole Gunner …

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 31, 2021 6:53 am

Doesn’t matter Rabz.
Today’s D-Day.
Or should I say B-Day.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 31, 2021 6:56 am

I chopper buzzy around out east.
Surely the beginning of big things.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 31, 2021 6:57 am

Twitter is saying Biden had toilet accident in Rome.
Either piss or shit.

calli
calli
October 31, 2021 7:05 am

Thanks, Tom.

My pick.

calli
calli
October 31, 2021 7:12 am

There’s a story in today’s Courier Mail about Ronald McDonald House. It’s paywalled, so I can’t see the details.

Apparently they have banned unvaxxed children and their families from staying. If this is so, that’s another institution that will be receiving exactly zero of my creative efforts.

rickw
rickw
October 31, 2021 7:14 am

A city strangled to death by a psychopathic bat eared mong:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OwaM8exIko

rickw
rickw
October 31, 2021 7:15 am

Either piss or shit.

Alex Jones reckons it’s mainly shit….

Winston Smith
October 31, 2021 7:15 am

srr:
Daily Mail.
I don’t think we are getting out of this so easily this time.

SPER said enforcement for people who failed to pay their fines ‘may include garnishing bank accounts or wages, registering charges over property, or suspending driver licences’, according to the Brisbane Times.

Any government that is taking steps to throw people out of their homes for non payment of dubious fines has an agenda far beyond that stated.
These actions are not the actions of a representative government – they are the actions of a panicked tyrant.

Rabz
October 31, 2021 7:16 am

München top of the kraut league

Those other mighty Reds. I just wish they had some decent competition outside of the Champs’ League.

Maman
Maman
October 31, 2021 7:17 am

Not sure if it has been linked before, but just in case, WIP, Comment Section, Cybernetic: “FaceBook has changed its name to ‘META’ 🙂 ‘Make Everything Trump Again!’ 🙂

Maman
Maman
October 31, 2021 7:18 am

Woops, “Meta”.

min
min
October 31, 2021 7:21 am

Lizzie what made you think I was having problems with son selling house . I put address in so Cats could see on internet 64 squares I think with only 3 people living there . He has already bought another Victorian house in East Melbourne. That I don’t like it is too far from me ?

calli
calli
October 31, 2021 7:23 am

And on the vexed vaxxed vs. unvaxxed question and friendship groups…mine will be meeting up twice before the end of the year. Both in venues that require vaxx status before entering. I’ll be sending my apologies.

It isn’t so much the group themselves requiring the information as the meeting place. One is a public facility (library, community centre) the other a sporting club. Like Megan, I don’t want 30+ year friendships to go down the drain because of this lunacy.

A quick reading of the “Covid Safe” rules of the venue reveals a tacit admission that the vaxxes do jack sh*t. The first item is, “if you feel sick or have any symptoms, stay home”. Well, derrrrr. But, hey, I’m fully vaxxed so I can’t possibly have Covid…can I?

Rabz
October 31, 2021 7:30 am

A city strangled to death by a psychopathic bat eared mong

Why is that insufferable idiotic personage still in existence?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 31, 2021 7:32 am

Lizzie what made you think I was having problems with son selling house .

Nothing, because I didn’t think that. Sorry if my comment came over that way.
I was just musing in general on real estate and one’s kids. Also, the address issue didn’t strike me at all, as your comment on my screen didn’t include any address although you implied one (I thought maybe Dover had removed something identifying). I’m not very familiar with Melbourne so it wouldn’t have meant much anyway.

I’m up early again with usual pain and misery, seeing docs all next week and further ultrasounds. I have used the time up to distract myself again with reading, the Weekend Oz this time. Double page spread in Inquirer on the politics of ScoMo and Glasgow, and the only thing worth reading was Chris Kenny’s excellent piece about how unexamined all of the climate nonsense was:

We now have fantasy results to deliver us into nirvana. .. We must not question this because the alternative is face even higher costs and/or destroy the planet. We have bipartisan agreement on the most costly and radical economic and social policy agenda ever envisaged, with no guarantee of beneficial outcomes and based on the flimsiest of public debates. We might well have passed our evolutionary peak.

Amen to that, Chris, amen.

Dot
Dot
October 31, 2021 7:33 am

The projected next major shooting war for us is in support of major allies against China

I would like a decent military to thwart China, but if it comes to shooting:

1. I reckon it might go nuclear, so we’d probably all be dead. Which is why it most likely never will happen. Pray to god it never happens.
2. If there is a massive conventional land war which results in conscription, I refuse to fight (I doubt they’d want me anyway). Why would I sacrifice myself for our government? The west is dead. If we win, do we get to set up safe schools, trans surgery for 3 year olds and virtually allow perjury in family law hearings? There’s only an incentive to fight if China literally wants to invade HERE. Radical 4th wave feminism and critical queer theory have seeped so far into our institutions it is a miracle that more men don’t “drop out” or “lay flat”.*

I have no damned interest in keeping Taiwan, Taiwanese. Despite how repulsive communist China is, there are many points on which the West is not morally superior or we are following them down the primrose path of safety over liberty anyway.

Taiwan is better off acquiring their own nukes and keeping Western countries at arm’s length.

Our long term liberty and security, and those of our allies and under the aegis of our alliance is much better off if the Cathedral and uniparties die after they are poisoned by a flood of the worst kinds of black propaganda.

Even China would be better off if we won a conventional land war with total victory objectives 20 years after that and reorganised her government.

*Mmmyes, maybe that is what China wants. An individual can’t overturn policy in a place run by mob rule & Parliamentary aristocracy. It increasingly looks like the only way to win is not play – or go the Arky/Epictetus route if you are fortunate enough.

Mater
October 31, 2021 7:33 am

It isn’t so much the group themselves requiring the information as the meeting place. One is a public facility (library, community centre) the other a sporting club.

I’ve just been told that I’m persona non grata at my son’s graduation.
He’s not vaxxed, but occurring to the school, I must be.

Dot
Dot
October 31, 2021 7:35 am

And I’m glad that DoverCat has bitten the bullet, so to speak, to source the money he needs to keep his Cat going.

Really? What a load of wank. I read that and the first thing I see is a pop up ad disable request.

Dover runs and funds the site AFAIK, and has set up a source of revenue and donations.

That’s not called going bust. That’s called “not going bust”.

Dot
Dot
October 31, 2021 7:36 am

JCsays:
October 31, 2021 at 2:26 am
There’s no incoming it’s outgoing/

The only solution is shock therapy at 350
Volts for a hour on each temple.

Pussy.

Try 415 V at @ 65 A.
P = IV.

Dot
Dot
October 31, 2021 7:37 am

feelthebernsays:
October 31, 2021 at 6:20 am
Chelsea top of the table.
Not a bad way for it all to end.

Appalling news.

Arsenal probably playing conference next year.

Dot
Dot
October 31, 2021 7:38 am

feelthebernsays:
October 31, 2021 at 6:57 am
Twitter is saying Biden had toilet accident in Rome.
Either piss or shit.

Report comment

There is merit to this being fake to cover up the child sniffing and child breast groping.

Rabz
October 31, 2021 7:39 am

B-Day.

Bugger. Seems to be much like yesterday. Where are the scores of nubiles in shorts and workboots, I asks ya?

rickw
rickw
October 31, 2021 7:39 am

I bet Men’s Sheds are interesting places these days.

Tractor club seems to be far better according to the stories from my dad, latest news:

They got given an old crane that had a stuffed steering box. They hammered in a replacement one that more or less fitted. Unfortunately new box had different gear arrangement so steering works opposite. One brave member volunteers to learn how to drive it, successfully reprograms brain to handle opposite steering. Then crashes his car into gate post leaving club (normal steering!). ?

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 31, 2021 7:40 am

Really? What a load of wank.

He really is a pathetic creature.
He never owned up to his Big Things happening bull shit.
Pure snake oil.

calli
calli
October 31, 2021 7:42 am

Mater, this is foul stuff. It’s hard to find words to process it.

A hypothetical – if these “fully vaxxed” events proceed, and the event becomes a Covid cluster, will that information be released? My gut feeling is suppression.

Dot
Dot
October 31, 2021 7:43 am

Swivel eyed loon watch:

“Why I am a slut…and I learned to stop worrying and love chad….justifying my time as a cum rag for players”

10 Reasons Nice People Don’t Make Good Partners
Secrets from the therapy couch

https://medium.com/on-the-couch/10-reasons-nice-people-dont-make-good-partners-e293fd9d7fc0
_______________________________________________________

“All men are terrible, terrible pigs but I always choose the bad ones…but it is the fault of all men”

What Happens When Men Ruin Your Life
Failed relationships can lead to life-long traumas.

https://medium.com/heart-affairs/what-happens-when-men-ruin-your-life-2c4a9eff890

Winston Smith
October 31, 2021 7:47 am

Doc Faustus:

Health, Law, Computing and Information Scientist, Infrastructure and Software Architect, and PhD in Health Informatics.

He’s quoting a midwife.
This should be enough for further investigation, and no, I wouldn’t trust Reuters Fact Checkers as far as I could spit a dead rat.

Dot
Dot
October 31, 2021 7:49 am

Reuters Fact Checkers

Please.

Rabz
October 31, 2021 7:49 am

There is merit to this being fake to cover up the child sniffing and child breast groping.

Pol, when you’ve got hairy legs, nothing else is of any import.

Rabz
October 31, 2021 7:50 am
Dot
Dot
October 31, 2021 7:51 am

Um hello.

Is. This. Real.

???? !!!!

https://mobile.twitter.com/beingrealmac/status/1454074889514717193

Joe Biden after 75 mins of meeting with Pope “You’re the famous African-American base ball player in America.”

????

Maybe its a strategy to scare China? He’ll probably nuke Corn Pop and half of D.C./Maryland, though.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 31, 2021 7:54 am

1. I reckon it might go nuclear, so we’d probably all be dead.

not a chance.
No other war has gone nuclear, why would this one be any different?
Here’s how the war will play out:
1. Gulf of Tonkin Style casus belli.
2. American Troops occupy Taiwan
3. American Troops devastate Taiwan.
5. American Troops evacuate Taiwan, PLA enters, bloodbath ensues.

Rabz
October 31, 2021 7:55 am

He’ll probably nuke Corn Pop and half of D.C./Maryland, though

The semi-sensible thing he’ll have done in the entirety of his syphilis addled existence.

Rabz
October 31, 2021 7:55 am

blah – the only …

Mater
October 31, 2021 8:00 am

When are they going to start allowing me a deduction on my taxes and rates for all these services that I am no longer allowed to utilise?

The system is there to allow it. For example, if you have a DVA Gold Card, you can get an exemption for the Medicare levy.

I mean, if I’m forced to receive Emergency Medical Treatment on the footpath outside the hospital (à la sfw’s treatment yesterday) surely a refund for not using the infrastructure is in order.

Fair’s fair.

P.S. This recent trend of conflating non-vaccination with the actual carrying the virus, is a worrying trend.

Cassie of Sydney
October 31, 2021 8:00 am

Gunk from The Daily Telegraph…..reach for the bucket. I thought surrogacy was illegal here in Oz.

“Modern family: Surrogacy rates in Australia are on the rise

Surrogacy rates in Australia are increasing due to marriage equality, the pandemic closing borders and overseas countries banning surrogacy arrangements — leading to more women like Sam Essex carrying babies for others out of love.

The rates are climbing due to marriage equality, the pandemic closing borders and overseas countries banning surrogacy arrangements.

Surrogacy lawyer and surrogate mother Sarah Jefford said her business had tripled.

“In 2018 (the year after marriage equality) there were 86 surrogacy babies born through IVF and I estimate there are probably another 12 or so outside of a clinic, using home insemination, so about 100 a year,” Ms Jefford said.

“Stats a few years ago were 60 babies a year.

“This year alone I have had 109 surrogacy arrangements so far — and I am only one lawyer.

“I’d estimate there are around 250 to 300 a year in Australia and about a third will end up with a baby because not all IVF is successful.”

Paid surrogacy is banned in Australia so women have to offer their wombs for altruistic reasons but more and more are opting to share the love of a child with another couple.

In 2016, there were 46 babies born via surrogate, according to statistics from the National Perinatal Epidemiology and Statistics Unit at the University of NSW.

In 2019, 73 babies were born to surrogate mothers.

Ms Jefford, a mother of two, carried a baby for a gay couple in 2018.

“It is on the up because of Covid and they are not going overseas and, partly since marriage equality, the dads are thinking we can do that too and it is less stigmatised and more popular,” Ms Jefford said.

When Bondi couple Jon Paul Daly and Kayne Muller married, they both knew they wanted a family but they needed a surrogate.

Enter the remarkable Sam Essex, a 33-year-old mother of three who heard about the couple’s dilemma as her friend is Kayne’s sister.

“Without a second thought I offered to carry their baby,” Ms Essex said.

“I knew I was done having my own, as I was blessed with three amazing children. From a young age, watching family members struggle to conceive, I knew I always wanted to carry a baby for someone.”

In February 2020 she met the couple and started the long and arduous journey of counselling and preparations.

“Every obstacle came up and we thought we would have to do it in America as it just became increasingly hard,” Mr Daly said.

“And then Sam came into our lives and that is it, she is our wingless angel. She has been amazing the whole way through. She’s incredible.”

With a donor egg and Kayne’s sperm, IVF was used to transfer the embryo into Sam’s womb. The first round did not work but in February 2021 another transfer resulted in a pregnancy.

Baby Luca was born via caesarean on October 9.

“When he was born it was so amazing and I watched these two men become fathers and my job was done,” Ms Essex said.

New dad Kayne Muller, 37, is besotted with baby Luca.

“We were in floods of tears and could not believe he was ours, it was very emotional. She was so selfless/ She is a beautiful person,” Mr Muller said.”

The plain truth is that Luca is just a toy for them.

Poor Luca.

Dot
Dot
October 31, 2021 8:01 am

Ed Casesays:
October 31, 2021 at 7:54 am
1. I reckon it might go nuclear, so we’d probably all be dead.

not a chance.

Yes fuckhead, I also said almost straight away that it almost has any chance of happening, but a shooting war will go nuke SO THERE LIKELY WON’T BE A WAR AT ALL.

The point is Grigory, you actually believe in cultural Marxism, we do not.

I will not willingly fight to inflict it on other nations and Taiwan is better off getting nukes and de-westernising in all but the classical sense.

Cassie of Sydney
October 31, 2021 8:02 am

“The only reason that the Fabian High Court of Australia overturned a Victorian Communist Court in the Cardinal George Pell matter is because they would have been ridiculed on the World Stage.”

Absolute garbage.

calli
calli
October 31, 2021 8:08 am

conflating non-vaccination with the actual carrying the virus

It was predictable from the start.

The failure of the you beaut get out of jail free vaxxes has to be blamed on something. How convenient to have a ready made, self selected cohort of scapegoats.

This has been done before. Race, religion, gender, caste have all had a workout.

Now for a new angle. We have reached peak juju science, where superstition will trump data. The historical constant – unreasoning fear of the marginalised.

Winston Smith
October 31, 2021 8:10 am

Megan:

Reuters Fact Check
Viral social media posts claim some newborn babies in Britain died of pulmonary haemorrhage shortly after birth due to mothers being vaccinated against COVID-19 during pregnancy. However, the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) and Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists (RCOG) told Reuters there is no available data showing that.

Clever use of the word available in that little missive.

The use of adjectives to distort a message is an art form among Leftists. I always regard the the excessive use of them as an indicator of subterfuge.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 31, 2021 8:10 am

Tom, the hilarious anti-Biden toons in this week’s parade were an absolute tonic.

I was laughing my way through them. Thank you so much for doing the toon service for us all.

Rabz
October 31, 2021 8:10 am
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 31, 2021 8:14 am

Now for a new angle. We have reached peak juju science, where superstition will trump data. The historical constant – unreasoning fear of the marginalised.

Last night we watched a not-too-bad History Channel show on British witchfinding in the seventeenth century. All the same psychological and obstructive techniques as now used on the latest group of marginalised – those not vaxxed – and for the same crowd-pleasing and power-seeking reasons.

Winston Smith
October 31, 2021 8:15 am

Megan:

Got disinvited from a craft group meet-up in person today because of vax status. 20 years of friendship shot down in one simple email.

Is it worth your while to turn up and make them excommunicate you? Confront them with their hypocrisy. They get away with this because we don’t rub their noses in it.
Make them uncomfortable.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 31, 2021 8:17 am

When are they going to start allowing me a deduction on my taxes and rates for all these services that I am no longer allowed to utilise?

Totally agree.
I too would like to opt out of paying anything towards the public health system.
I’m happy to be banned from the public health system, as long as I don’t have to pay anything towards it.

Rabz
October 31, 2021 8:17 am

This recent trend of conflating non-vaccination with the actual carrying the virus, is worrying

Worrying isn’t the term I’d use, Mater.

Infuriating
Evil
Staggeringly stupid
Illogical
Hysterical
etc, etc, etc …

Winston Smith
October 31, 2021 8:18 am

Top Ender:

I wouldn’t go for that. It means more training; more spares, more tactical procedures etc etc.

Fair enough, but we mix different types of aircraft according to the mission – like EW aircraft with air superiority or ground attack.

Cassie of Sydney
October 31, 2021 8:18 am

“Henry
3 weeks ago
And who pays for those idiots to be hospitalised? We do, the unselfish vaccinated.

???

I have PHI & pay tax. Fuck your vaccinations, you suckhole.”

This “pandemic” has exposed the worst in people…..almost always progressives who pretend to care about others but in reality they don’t. Covid has given them license to flaunt their toxic selfishness, narcissism and nastiness.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 31, 2021 8:19 am

Got disinvited from a craft group meet-up in person today because of vax status.

Your friends are retards & you’re better off without them.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 31, 2021 8:20 am

Found this at Dr. Scott McLachlam’s Twitter feed:

Suburban Black Man Flag of United States
@goodblackdude
· Oct 14
The Northern Territory of Australia has imposed the strictest COVID-19 “vaccine” mandate yet — anyone who does not get at least their “first dose” by November 13 will be fined $5,000 and will not be allowed to enter their workplace until they receive it.

I find that a tad hard to believe.
Is Dr. Scott a hoaxer?

shatterzzz
October 31, 2021 8:20 am

SPER said enforcement for people who failed to pay their fines ‘may include garnishing bank accounts or wages, registering charges over property, or suspending driver licences’, according to the Brisbane Times.

Garnishing bank accounts .. shirley not!

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 31, 2021 8:21 am

‘Sunday morning with Macca.’
I’ve got the distinct feeling that Macca strongly disagrees with vaccine mandates and people losing jobs as a result.
Unfortunately for Victorians he is followed up by the Danbot, Libby Gore, who delivers the state approved propaganda with conviction.
Gore spends her time looking for the bright side of tyranny and pushing progressive obsessions.
No Sunday morning is complete without a conversation about transgender menstruation.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 31, 2021 8:22 am

These statist, fascists have opened the door to medical apartheid.
They think it’s a threat to a group of people they currently don’t like.
It’s actually an opportunity.
Not in Australia, but other places which have a population that can support it.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 31, 2021 8:22 am

He’s quoting a midwife.
This should be enough for further investigation, and no, I wouldn’t trust Reuters Fact Checkers as far as I could spit a dead rat.

Enough further investigation.

When a computer scientist, presenting as a medical doctor, quoting a distressed midwife, about a cluster of 4 (possibly 8) cases of a 1-in-20 to 1-in-1000 condition, in a 8,000 pa delivery maternity hospital = rolled gold proof that Covid vaccination is slaughtering neonates.

And the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists can get fucked for suggesting otherwise. Because Reuters.

Yup. That’s where we are.

Rabz
October 31, 2021 8:22 am

Confront them with their hypocrisy

They’re incapable of comprehending the concept. Which is all very convenient when you think about it.

Sort of like selective deafness.

Winston Smith
October 31, 2021 8:23 am

Rex Anger:

Besides, both are designed and work as hunter-killers, with a subsidiary cruise-missile and minelaying role.
If you want to mix, you should be looking at Astute SSNs and Dreadnought boomers, or Virginias and Ohios.

Excellent – that’s what I was thinking, but mixed the capabilities.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 31, 2021 8:30 am

When a computer scientist, presenting as a medical doctor,

He’s not presenting as a medical doctor at all, but his area of expertise is record keeping in the NHS.
So, he might have something worthwhile to say.

calli
calli
October 31, 2021 8:32 am

This cancelling of long term friends who disagree with you sounds very…woke.

If the “friends” have dumped you first, fine. Walk away.

But if they are constrained by someone else’s rules, bear with them. Circumstances change.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 31, 2021 8:33 am

Armadillosays:
October 30, 2021 at 11:54 pm
I bet Men’s Sheds are interesting places these days.

They serve a purpose in society. If you are down on your luck and are feeling suicidal, you only need to walk in the door. Talk to those sad fucks for about 5 minutes and you realise how lucky you are.

Not the one I attended pre-lockdowns. Generally a happy, well balanced group, with only a small number who were needing company.

Then the Kung Flu lockdowns stopped them operating. It might be different now. Another act of pointless bastardry.

Dot
Dot
October 31, 2021 8:43 am

Carriers, boomers, hunter killers.

How much money do you think that would cost?

RAAF fighter pilots were limited flight hours be because we couldn’t afford fuel & maintenance on F/A-18s.

It is actually incredible though, what small proportion of GDP & government spending, or perhaps financed by increased revenue over a few years collected after microeconomic reform, we could allocate to defence and rival Russia, and only be second to the US overall and China by cannon fodder numbers.

Producing our own equivalents of the B61, B83 & W88 and having them deployable on all supersonic aircraft & surface & submarine vessels would blunt Chinese expansion.

The regime isn’t going to risk being deep fried to “influence” Tonga.

Rabz
October 31, 2021 8:46 am

This cancelling of long term friends who disagree with you sounds very…woke.

To err is to be human, calli. This idiocy we’re existing through was inevitable, when you think about it. How is one meant to accept suddenly being a second class citizen with equanimity?

It was something that only ever happened to other people.

Dot
Dot
October 31, 2021 8:46 am

When a computer scientist, presenting as a medical doctor

Did he do that though?

We should refer to “doctors” as “physicians”.

That would clear this mess up.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 31, 2021 8:46 am

I see David Limbrick is returning to parliament to fight the Dandates.
The Troll Master will see it as a victory but you can’t get your message across without a podium and it’s too important a matter to let principle keep you away from confronting the enemy on their ground.

Cassie of Sydney
October 31, 2021 8:51 am

“But if they are constrained by someone else’s rules, bear with them. Circumstances change.”

I agree.

Mater
October 31, 2021 8:53 am

I see David Limbrick is returning to parliament to fight the Dandates.
The Troll Master will see it as a victory but you can’t get your message across without a podium and it’s too important a matter to let principle keep you away from confronting the enemy on their ground.

I saw that a lot of his supporters were begging him to do so.
It’s not a victory for the other side, it’s a politician listening to his constituents. It should be sold in that light.

Winston Smith
October 31, 2021 8:53 am

Armadillo:

They should have named it “auto fuckup”.

They did.
It keeps getting it wrong.

Rabz
October 31, 2021 8:54 am

his area of expertise is record keeping in the NHS

What sort of flatulence sniffing brown cardigan wearing tin eared imbecile would admit to being such a creature?

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 31, 2021 8:58 am

Did he do that though?

According to Dr Faustus on the previous page, he did..
Dr. Scott’s area of expertise appears to be documenting ways the NHS fudge figures, create multiple records for a single person.
For instance, when a doctor instructs a nurse not to record a patients CovidVax on the chart, unless the nurse remembers to enter it on the patients record, that person will die as “unvaccinated”.

Mater
October 31, 2021 8:59 am

Mater’s Mini Musing #1: 31 Oct 21

Whilst I hesitate to be the first to invoke Godwin’s law today, it is interesting that Hitler is WELL recognised (by historians) for almost exclusively using a Bacterial simile to describe a group of people he didn’t like, and wanted removed.

It’s an interesting thought exercise.

Perplexed of Brisbane
Perplexed of Brisbane
October 31, 2021 8:59 am

Dot says:
October 31, 2021 at 8:43 am

Producing our own equivalents of the B61, B83 & W88 and having them deployable on all supersonic aircraft & surface & submarine vessels would blunt Chinese expansion.

I like the idea of our own nukes for several reasons:

We have the raw materials – Uranium.

We don’t have to rely on fickle allies with nukes to ‘protect’ us when their initial aim was to prevent nuclear proliferation – which failed miserably. Would it be better for us to have nukes or NK, Iran etc?

We would probably be annihilated in a nuclear exchange with China but if we were able to retaliate (if we get the Virginia subs with nuclear tipped Tomahawks and have them placed for quick retaliation) and destroy a number of their major cities and infrastructure, they would be given more than a moment of pause. If we could take out the central party apparatus, that would throw them into complete chaos with no one to tell them what to do.

Seems vindictive and spiteful, I know but if we are attacked, all bets are off.

Probably won’t need to happen, our pollies have just about sold us out to China anyway.

Maybe when the next in-person national cabinet meeting goes ahead in Canberra, just one would be needed?

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 31, 2021 9:02 am

True Mater and that’s the spin.
Limbrick should use his return to highlight that Andrew’s commitment to democratic process and loyalty lasts just as long as you abide by all his rules.
Then mention Jenny Mikakos and Jane Garrett as examples of strong Labor women who chose principle over Andrew’s power obsession.
Skewer the prick.

Winston Smith
October 31, 2021 9:04 am

Digger:

We probably need action now, 2040 before the first nuke is delivered and the game could already be over.
I can see some value in the mix and match option in these unusual times though. The Collins cannot last forever so if the Japanese Taigei-class submarines are available, we could try to negotiate 6 of them immediately and order 6 Virginia’s or Astutes immediately as well. The Taigei is relatively cheap, uses lithium ion batteries, is arguably the most advanced non nuke boat in the world and the Japanese only decided to build their fleet from 16 to 22 in 2010 and the last one, the Taigei is already being fitted out.

Yes. We’re now playing catchup while our competitors have made big gains ahead of us.
Perhaps 3 of the Taigei now from Japan with and order for three more to get our hands on at least two from their fleet. (Probably too late for that.) Three of the Ohio Class refitted with sub launched cruise missiles. Lease three more to come.
I dunno. We’ve pissed away 20 years of peace and are now sitting here – a big fat duck waiting to be plucked.

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 31, 2021 9:05 am
calli
calli
October 31, 2021 9:05 am

Mater, “Godwin’s Law” is useful for those who want to shut down discussion on the historical perspective of marginalisation. It becomes a tool of the oppressor, not the reasoned debater.

We must never fall into the trap of refusing to learn from, or compare to, the lessons of the past because of some stupid construct.

It’s like refusing to use a contemporary similarity, like the Indian caste system and the “untouchables”, because racist. We must see these things and discuss them for what they are.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 31, 2021 9:06 am

bern

I’m happy to be banned from the public health system, as long as I don’t have to pay anything towards it.

The ATO conveniently provides a breakdown of the proportion of your taxes which goes to each major Commonwealth function. Health is above the Medicare Levy percentage.

Then there are the state costs, …

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 31, 2021 9:07 am

http://www.news.com.au/breaking news/ex taxi driver and dapto dog caller discovers ex wife has taken his nuts with her when she left the matrimonial home after being serviced regularly by ex footy player. Ddc when queried on the disappearance of said nuts said he only noticed after he wondered why he stopped chasing cars and is going to change his name to Karen.

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 31, 2021 9:08 am

First thing to be done to defend this country is restart oil exploration on shore. Store our reserve on shore here and make it 90 days worth. keep at least a handful of refineries going.
At present if a country with a credible submarine force simply declares a maritime exclusion zone around Australia and/or sinks a tanker enroute from Singapore, we’ll be begging them to send their troops in in 3 weeks. We are that fucked with a clownshow of a federal government.

calli
calli
October 31, 2021 9:12 am

I had to smile at this from the News.com feed:

NSW records 236 new Covid cases
With just days to go before NSW residents are able to set off overseas again, the state has recorded 236 new Covid-19 cases.

LOL.

Love the way that’s framed. Tens of thousands of “new” cases in destination countries daily and News is trying to be scary.

Just DAYS you mindless numpties! It’s an Escapageddon!

Mater
October 31, 2021 9:12 am

Have a listen to this Psychotherapist opining on Vaccine mandates…“to protect the NHS”.

https://twitter.com/LozzaFox/status/1451818329723781123?s=20

I know this is the UK, but the attitude is equally apparent here. Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t a universal healthcare system designed to “protect the population”? It was designed to provide for the ‘human right’ to reasonable healthcare, but now our right to choose without coercion is being subordinated to it.

This is some seriously fucked up thinking, and borders on cultish behaviour. Another example of how Socialist policies (universal healthcare, etc) beget/require further social/totalitarian policies.

“Everything in the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State.”
– Mussolini

Dot
Dot
October 31, 2021 9:13 am

Karen Hadley.

I should have called my dog that, but my ankle would have gotten too sore from all of the kicking.

calli
calli
October 31, 2021 9:16 am

A Christian (or a Jew) would call health system worship rank idolatry.

And, as it’s Sunday, a little Bible lesson.

Idolatry, in all its forms, brings death and destruction. It’s a given.

Dot
Dot
October 31, 2021 9:17 am

Eyriesays:
October 31, 2021 at 9:08 am
First thing to be done to defend this country is restart oil exploration on shore. Store our reserve on shore here and make it 90 days worth. keep at least a handful of refineries going.
At present if a country with a credible submarine force simply declares a maritime exclusion zone around Australia and/or sinks a tanker enroute from Singapore, we’ll be begging them to send their troops in in 3 weeks. We are that fucked with a clownshow of a federal government.

Yes.

Allowing onshore exploration & refining should be ring fenced by defence priorities, BUT you assume a limited to general war would be fought conventionally. In that instance supply lines don’t mean much ( I assume).

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 31, 2021 9:18 am

1. I reckon it might go nuclear, so we’d probably all be dead.
not a chance.
No other war has gone nuclear, why would this one be any different?

Oh God. We are all going to die!

Tom
Tom
October 31, 2021 9:21 am

Ahead of the 2022 federal election, the politics are fascinating – and the Paywallian’s Old Labor blowhard Paul Kelly has been sucked in.

Just now on Skah, Kelly, in his weekly Sermon on the Mount, notes that Brand A and B now have virtually identical climate policies – untenable for the Liars to be competitive.

So Kelly is tipping that Albo’s Liars will adopt an even more aggressive climate target than the Stupid Fucking Liberals. But Kelly says Albo will have to do it in a “politically safe” way, without specifying what that would be.

Hahaha. That’s how the Liars have lost every climate change election this century – and Albo, being an idealogue first, is stupid enough to try it again.

Of course, for the election strategy to work for the Stupid Fucking Liberals, it would require voters to hold their noses and vote for their own economic destruction.

The only thing I am 100% sure of is that in 2022 the primary vote for major parties will be a record low and the vote for splinter parties on the right will be a record high – probably surpassing the loony left vote parked with the Greenfilth.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 31, 2021 9:27 am

With just days to go before NSW residents are able to set off overseas again, the state has recorded 236 new Covid-19 cases.

This one will be fun:

Travel ban axed, global ‘do not travel’ advisory scrapped and quarantine ended: Australia takes first steps to reopening (30 Oct)

New South Wales and Victoria are less than 48 hours away from welcoming back vaccinated Australians without requiring them to spend two weeks in hotel quarantine on arrival.

From Monday, Australian citizens and permanent residents who have received two doses of a TGA approved COVID-19 vaccine and return a negative test within 72 hours of departure will be able to walk straight from the airport in those two states.

NSW and Victoria are the first two jurisdictions in the nation to scrap quarantine requirements for inoculated arrivals, with the federal government this week announcing the international travel ban will no longer apply from November 1.

How many of those negative test results will be real? Many Australians being actually dual nationals for certain countries with let’s say a less than exacting approach to the rule of law.

rosie
rosie
October 31, 2021 9:28 am

Went to a great unwashed mass this morning, fortunately arrived early as the maximum number allowed was reached.
Old biddy fussing around making sure everyone was signed in and more hand sanitiser bottles than candles.
I guess this is it for the foreseeable future.

rosie
rosie
October 31, 2021 9:30 am

I dare say that, like in the good old days, passengers arriving from certain destinations will receive more attention from customs officials than others.

Franx
Franx
October 31, 2021 9:31 am

Not sure about ‘disinviting’ occurring only because the people doing the disinviting (informal ‘friendship’ groups?) are bound by somebody else’s rules.
I mean, they are willing enough, sometimes eager, to go along with the somebody else’s rules, preferring to see these as iron clad. Best to stay nice.

Ed Case
Ed Case
October 31, 2021 9:35 am

Greens vote will crater this time.
Their Policy on Covid is Vax Everything that Moves and Imprison the refusers.
No one’s buying that, and they’ve dealt themselves out of the Emissions debate thru stupidity.

Most of them will return to Labor once Kevin Rudd is installed as leader, so Labor, with the help of Murdoch, are going to be hard to beat.

Winston Smith
October 31, 2021 9:37 am

Calli:

Like Megan, I don’t want 30+ year friendships to go down the drain because of this lunacy.

Calli, they’ve sent it down the drain.
You’re just waving goodbye.

Tom
Tom
October 31, 2021 9:45 am

Greens vote will crater this time.

No it won’t. The Greens are the new Australian Communist Party who represent all of society’s non-achievers — public servants, students and political activists. They’re our rusted-on party of unhappiness. They’ll always get about 10% of the primary vote.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 31, 2021 9:45 am

178 cases for NSW today.
Phew!
Another day when the tsunami of cases caused by reopening fails to hit the “overrun” hospital system.
How can this be?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 31, 2021 9:52 am

Eyriesays:
October 31, 2021 at 9:08 am
First thing to be done to defend this country is restart oil exploration on shore. Store our reserve on shore here and make it 90 days worth. keep at least a handful of refineries going.

You’ll be impressed to know that (essentially) none of the production from Australia’s only major onshore oil development goes into an Australian oil refinery. Almost all of the Moomba crude is exported to refineries in Singapore, Malaysia, and Indonesia.

Zipster
Zipster
October 31, 2021 9:52 am

1. I reckon it might go nuclear, so we’d probably all be dead.

not at all. china has 5mgt warheads. Most likely, MIRVs would be lower yield. You can plot the explosions on various nuke scenario site such as https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/
targets would like be airfields, military bases, possibly CBD. Many people would survive the blast.

From there it’s a matter of avoiding fallout, critically in the 1st 24hrs and then for at least 2 weeks. Radiation levels fall exponentially and after 2 weeks would be fairly low level. CBRN gear would make surviving this period relatively easy. A good geiger counter is essential.

Having a plan is key to survival. Water, food, shelter, self-defence, communications etc.

Winston Smith
October 31, 2021 9:55 am

HBBear:

Oh God. We are all going to die!

Yes, but most of us are going to die with our boots and pants on, mister Bear.

Dot
Dot
October 31, 2021 9:58 am

CBRN gear would make surviving this period relatively easy.

I bet less than 10,000 civilians in NSW, let alone the whole country have this.

The military may not even have enough for their rank & file.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 31, 2021 9:59 am

The only thing I am 100% sure of is that in 2022 the primary vote for major parties will be a record low and the vote for splinter parties on the right will be a record high – probably surpassing the loony left vote parked with the Greenfilth.

Most likely case, one would think.

Also likely that the splinter party vote will recycle to the Liberals/LNP. Raising the prospect of a minority government: either Scummo, propped up by a couple of UAP/indies – or Albanese propped up by a couple of urban Greens.

Not sure which would be worse. Either would make emigration to Sudan look appealing.

Dot
Dot
October 31, 2021 10:02 am

Speaking of bets – struth, the bet is still on, if you are man enough.

By Jan 1, 2026, Australia’s population will not fall by 10% or more, by any cause; this is the bet, but it is an argument over people who have been “jabbed” dying in 18 – 48 months (you predicted 40-60%).

Payable in 500 1938 – 1943 Ram head design sterling silver Australian shillings of any quality by 1 Feb, 2026.

Since you reckon people who have been “jabbed” are “very likely to die” the next cold they get, are you still willing to take the bet?

Dot
Dot
October 31, 2021 10:03 am

Not sure which would be worse. Either would make emigration to Sudan look appealing.

Insh’allah, my brother.

Zipster
Zipster
October 31, 2021 10:05 am

people travelling from Australia to China will be required to undergo 21 days quarantine because, naturally, they are following Dan’s lead and have a zero covid policy.

Dan is actually following the chinese gameplan via WHO

rosie
rosie
October 31, 2021 10:06 am

There will be no making jokes!

Dot
Dot
October 31, 2021 10:08 am

Got this weird email from Booktopia.

The bundle all Kitty Flanagan fans need in their life

Is it a gift basket of clonazepam, cat litter and box wine?

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 31, 2021 10:09 am

Ahead of the 2022 federal election, the politics are fascinating – and the Paywallian’s Old Labor blowhard Paul Kelly has been sucked in.

Rip van Kelly, never knowingly right since … well, whenever. Lay down misere for the first visiting Professor position at The Peter van Wrongselen School of Wrongology.

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