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JC
JC
November 26, 2021 12:26 am

Scroll driller, scroll

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Scroll driller, scroll

You’re learning Krugman.
I’ve a very good teacher.
There’s quite a few lessons I could give you.

You’d be a good student. I’ve taught some incredibly stupid people to perform tasks far more complex than how to use a scroll wheel.

So given enough tuition you should be able to master the task.

JC
JC
November 26, 2021 12:27 am

I think NYC is stuffed.

De Blasio has left some massive problems but it’s coming back . I think and hope the black mayor will do okay.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
November 26, 2021 12:28 am

Test

JC
JC
November 26, 2021 12:29 am

Driller, you’re just sad.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Driller, you’re just sad.

Yes, broke, no money, no friends, no staff, no hope.
I’ve got tourettes, my family war cry sucks, my military history makes people laugh, etc.
You list my sadnesses several times each day.

Anything else I should be sad about?
Enquiring minds want to know.

JC
JC
November 26, 2021 12:33 am

Driller, you’re even sadder.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

I know! I’ll cheer myself up by….. moving to Melbourne, driving around in a pansymobile critiquing people’s guttering, I’ll wear clothing inspired by queer-eye-for-the-straight-guy, frequent coffee shops, go to restaurants.

My life will be wonderful, & I’ll be ever so happy.
Such a lifestyle would make one a very gay fellow.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
November 26, 2021 12:34 am

I think and hope the black mayor will do okay.

communist

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 26, 2021 12:37 am

I’ll wear clothing inspired by queer-eye-for-the-straight-guy,

White, ironed Dolche and Gabbana jeans, polished leather tasseled loafers, and a topee will do that for you every time.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
November 26, 2021 12:39 am

America is now a controlled fascist communist country.

Losing Confidence in the Pillars of Our Civilization
Conservatives now have lost their former traditional confidence in many of the pillars of our civilization. And with good reason.
By Victor Davis Hanson
November 24, 2021
https://amgreatness.com/category/great-america/

JC
JC
November 26, 2021 12:39 am

Yea Driller , we should all be blue singlet wearing tough guys running a leased pub in the middle of Malariaville . You clown.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

White, ironed Dolche and Gabbana jeans, polished leather tasseled loafers, and a topee will do that for you every time.

I don’t know what that word-salad even means, or even what language it is in.

First thing I’ll have to do upon reaching Melbournibad will be book myself in for some language lessons.
Y’know, get rid of the broad drawl, speak faster, flatten the dipthongs, drop the Australian idioms.

I’ll start the immersion now, by listening to recordings of Adam Bandt & Brett Sutton on endless loop.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Yea Driller , we should all be blue singlet wearing tough guys running a leased pub in the middle of Malariaville . You clown.

Why not? It’s manly.

Btw, you got a reference for the “leased” part?
Just concerned for you, wouldn’t want you to be caught lying (again). If you lose another bet to me I’ll be house hunting in Toorak instead of Dandenong.

JC
JC
November 26, 2021 12:45 am

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:
November 26, 2021 at 12:37 am

I’ll wear clothing inspired by queer-eye-for-the-straight-guy,

White, ironed Dolche and Gabbana jeans, polished leather tasseled loafers, and a topee will do that for you every time.

Oh look, the laughable wanker, the clown, who told us in all seriousness he’s wears RM Williams neck to toes and an Akubra hat… in London then makes up delusional nonsense about me while forming a posse with Driller.

Recall when you told us how you were that stupid uniform overseas, you ridiculous cringeworthy cuckold? We do.

JC
JC
November 26, 2021 12:48 am

Why not? It’s manly.

Depends. Rones is a cuckold.

Btw, you got a reference for the “leased” part?

Yea, your own blog. You don’t own it. You claimed you leased it.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

wears RM Williams neck to toes and an Akubra hat… in London

Er.. you realise RM has a retail shop in London.
People actually buy that stuff & wear it.

Much of RM’s stuff is of English origin (no surprise) & quite some Aussie apparel is merely a minor modification on the English original.

I’ve seen people wearing nothing but an orange bath towel in London, on the street.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Yea, your own blog. You don’t own it. You claimed you leased it.

How much is the bet on this?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Rones is a cuckold.

You seem obsessed with this talk of rooting the neighbour’s wife.

Anything you need to share?

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
November 26, 2021 12:51 am

I like RM gear.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
November 26, 2021 12:53 am

But prefer the black hats

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

How much is the bet on this?

Don’t hold breath anyone, this is yet another one that Krugman will squib on.

JC
JC
November 26, 2021 12:55 am

Er.. you realise RM has a retail shop in London.
People actually buy that stuff & wear it.

Head to toe and an akubra hat to go with the uniform. Just imagine the idiot.

Much of RM’s stuff is of English origin (no surprise) & quite some Aussie apparel is merely a minor modification on the English original.

Wow , who knew.

I’ve seen people wearing nothing but an orange bath towel in London, on the street.

Which does or doesn’t make them wankers, along with Akubra hatted , RM Williams wearing wankers walking around London. And how would you know , Driller? You claimed to hate visiting big cities and don’t spend time in them. How would you know as you live in Malariaville.

Also you ran that blog of yours from ~2005 to 2013. You said you went to some shithole in Asia. You’ve never been to the UK or Europe the past two decades.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

You’ve never been to the UK or Europe the past two decades.

How much is the bet on this one?

(I could make serious money here, if he doesn’t welch)

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

My blogs still run dickhead, your locked out of them, that’s all.

JC
JC
November 26, 2021 12:59 am

You seem obsessed with this talk of rooting the neighbour’s wife.

Anything you need to share?

The Rones certainly shared 🙂

How much is the bet on this?

That you don’t own the property? I don’t think you were lying on your own blog Driller. You claimed to own the leasehold – not the freehold. Do you own the Freehold? I know your name and place of business so I could check and come back to you here. Do you mind if I post the details I find here? 🙂

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Stop blathering & put up some money!

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

I know your name and place of business

Of course you do.

JC
JC
November 26, 2021 1:03 am

My blogs still run dickhead, your locked out of them, that’s all.

Run as in not having posted a thread since 2018 or so? And it’s blog, not blogs, you piss-weak dissembling turd.

This one is what we’re talking about about, which from 2005 to 2017, you have a total of 23 accumulated comments, you boring shithead.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

I know your name and place of business

Oh my Gaaard… it’s a doxxing thrett.
I’m so panicky, sweaty palms, goose bumps, tightening in the chest.
Don’t know how I’ll cope.

Oh yeah… whisky will do it…. * chug *…. after that…. okay, now where were we?
Oh yeah, you were about to lose a bet with me.

Not sure your cheque would be a good idea, you’ll require direct deposit details, right?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

And it’s blog, not blogs

No, I’ve always run 4 blogs.
They’re now locked. You cannot see fresh posts.

Deal with it.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
November 26, 2021 1:06 am

Who knew?

Navy Sailors Forced to Take Out Loans Due to Biden Pay Delays — As Democrats Pass Trillion Dollar Bills for Amnesty and Green New Deal

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/11/navy-sailors-forced-take-loans-due-biden-pay-delays-democrats-pass-trillion-dollar-bills-amnesty-green-new-deal/

JC
JC
November 26, 2021 1:14 am

No, I’ve always run 4 blogs.
They’re now locked. You cannot see fresh posts.

Deal with it.

Driller, you ran Public house from 2005 to 2018. It’s not locked and has a total of ~23 comments. If you’re running 4 blogs then why are you always here and at the other Cat? You bullshit artist. You sociopathic liar.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

If you’re running 4 blogs then why are you always here and at the other Cat?

My dog is likewise mystified by the working of internal combustion engines.

Something things, it would seem, are beyond your ken.
Deal with that.

JC
JC
November 26, 2021 1:18 am

I know your name and place of business

Oh my Gaaard… it’s a doxxing thrett.
I’m so panicky, sweaty palms, goose bumps, tightening in the chest.
Don’t know how I’ll cope.

You don’t have to worry. I’d never dox you like you pal is trying to do and what Arky did you me. Your secret is safe with me. I’ve known for years and I just said I know because of what the Ronery just did and also because I don’t believe you own the freehold. If you do, prove it because you said once you don’t. Also a fence repairer, you never make enough money to own the freehold even with a deposit. Driller , stop lying.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Leave a message in the “contact us” window on business webpage.
It’ll pop straight through to me.
We’re open for another couple of hours.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
November 26, 2021 1:20 am

Is it true that Premier Perottet’s father worked for The World Bank???

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Your secret is safe with me. I’ve known for years

Yeah, coz Andrew Bolt told you.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Also a fence repairer, you never make enough money to own the freehold even with a deposit

Explain why not?
Go into as much detail as you feel you need to.

(This is your way of squibbing out of the bet)

Btw how much is the bet that I’ve not been to Europe or UK for ages?
(I can see me clearing my mortgage in one night at this rate)

JC
JC
November 26, 2021 1:23 am

Yeah, coz Andrew Bolt told you.

Why would you say that as I don’t know Bolt.

I really don’t care who you are as you’re driller to me and always will be.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Why would you say that as I don’t know Bolt.

If he didn’t tell you, who did?
Shorto? Tony Burke? Penny Wong? Richard Colbeck? Michael Jeffrey?

JC
JC
November 26, 2021 1:31 am

Explain why not?
Go into as much detail as you feel you need to.

Because you wouldn’t have earned enough money . Thats why
Also, you claimed to own the leasehold.

(This is your way of squibbing out of the bet)

Nope as I never offered the bet so I can’t squib. Just like I offered you the bet on the Starbucks stuff you lied about.

Btw how much is the bet that I’ve not been to Europe or UK for ages?
(I can see me clearing my mortgage in one night at this rate)

As in the past 17 years? From 2005 to 2018 in particular ? I pretty sure you haven’t, otherwise, being a blowhard you would have mentioned it like you me mentioned you went to Asia on your blog.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
November 26, 2021 1:50 am

from AdamCat

mh says:
November 26, 2021 at 1:38 am

‘Is it true that Premier Perottet’s father worked for The World Bank???’

***

Still does.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Because you wouldn’t have earned enough money.

Why not?
Besides, how much can a deposit possibly be, for a pissant little pub like mine?
(pretty stupid answer, even for you)

Also, you claimed to own the leasehold.

Never.

I never offered the bet

You never will either, Mr. “big bet” man.
You haven’t the balls.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Btw how much is the bet that I’ve not been to Europe or UK for ages?

I pretty sure you haven’t

That… is the sound of you walking it back.

Your falsehoods are rather too easy to pick apart.
Your name sure ain’t gonna pop up at one of the secret chiefs of ASIS.

(Then again, consider the klutz reputation of ASIS, you may actually be one of the chiefs)

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Also, you claimed to own the leasehold.

Never happened.
“Data analysist” … my ass!

srr
srr
November 26, 2021 3:39 am

“FlyingPigs says:
November 26, 2021 at 12:59 am

America is now a controlled fascist communist country.

Losing Confidence in the Pillars of Our Civilization
Conservatives now have lost their former traditional confidence in many of the pillars of our civilization. And with good reason.
By Victor Davis Hanson
November 24, 2021

https://amgreatness.com/category/great-america/

Tom
Tom
November 26, 2021 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
November 26, 2021 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
November 26, 2021 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
November 26, 2021 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
November 26, 2021 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
November 26, 2021 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
November 26, 2021 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
November 26, 2021 4:10 am
Tom
Tom
November 26, 2021 4:11 am
Tom
Tom
November 26, 2021 4:12 am
Tom
Tom
November 26, 2021 4:13 am
bespoke
bespoke
November 26, 2021 5:28 am

C.L.says:
November 25, 2021 at 9:16 pm
Good Lord. Is Paul Murray being paid a retainer by Scott Morrison’s office?

Quislings are very good at exploiting confirmation.

JC
JC
November 26, 2021 6:15 am

Stop blathering & put up some money!

Driller, this was posted by you in January 2010 on your unread blog. Unless you can show us the title then you’re lying about owning the freehold. You’re such a wanker. You refer to yourself as Mine Wanker. After the Rones, you’re the second most dishonest bignoting blowhard here.

Marching Orders Part #6
Law firm Ding, Dong & Dell had acted for Mine Host for many years. They were privy to all his affairs.

Mine Host becomes embroiled in a dust-up with his landlord. The landlord, an arm of a merchant bank, is named (say) McBank.

Mine Host was being shafted by the landlord. In hindsight this was landlord’s original intention.

rickw
rickw
November 26, 2021 6:22 am

Navy Sailors Forced to Take Out Loans Due to Biden Pay Delays — As Democrats Pass Trillion Dollar Bills for Amnesty and Green New Deal

Not paying your military is a good way to get an insurrection going, but I note that it’s Navy, probably the least dangerous branch to government. Bet the army and marines got paid.

rosie
rosie
November 26, 2021 6:22 am
Dot
Dot
November 26, 2021 6:23 am

LDP Memes for Free Market Dreams on Telegram

https://t.me/s/ldpmemes?before=398

Some of the content is brilliant.

Dot
Dot
November 26, 2021 6:26 am

Mine Host becomes embroiled in a dust-up with his landlord. The landlord, an arm of a merchant bank, is named (say) McBank.

Very curious but what has this got to do with putting Dan Andrews in prison for covering up his wife’s DUI?

Dot
Dot
November 26, 2021 6:31 am

Australian theocracy:

Idiot Boy Bishop Morrison is appointed by a Sanhedrin of dangerous unelected idiots and puppets (some elected) whom impose random and arbitrary rules on the behest of fanatical prophets of East German authoritarianism, Kneel bin-Mitchell and Rei al-Hadley.

The Science (TM) changes whenever these two change their underwear.

Dot
Dot
November 26, 2021 6:34 am

Not paying your military is a good way to get an insurrection going, but I note that it’s Navy, probably the least dangerous branch to government. Bet the army and marines got paid.

The Army can have an Abrams MBT and salary cakewalk, but we’ve got the MIRVs.

That’s right, two words, nuclear fuckin’ weapons!

JC
JC
November 26, 2021 6:36 am

Dot , I have no idea, ask Mine Blowhard ( The Driller). Last evening Mine Bloward was denying he had a leasehold. Unless that’s changed, since 2010, then he needs to show proof to all of us. It’s not important but he made it so because Mine Blowahard was suggesting I was lying about it but of course, I wasn’t. There’s absolutely no reason to ever lie about The Rones and The Driller as their stories are a gold mine of bullshit. Rones gets caught lying about his net worth in order to aggrandize himself while the Driller lies about his ownership. It’s sad as they’re both very damaged imbeciles.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 26, 2021 6:46 am

Good Lord. Is Paul Murray being paid a retainer by Scott Morrison’s office?

Going on David Rowe’s cartoon there’s fear that Peter Dutton could replace Scotty.
That would be a positive change, so it’s unlikely to happen.

will
will
November 26, 2021 6:49 am
will
will
November 26, 2021 6:50 am
feelthebern
feelthebern
November 26, 2021 6:57 am

I was asked to do a favour for an old guy.
Turns out he doesn’t have a mobile phone or email.
I’m still going to do it, but I’m pissed at the guy who originally asked me.
He must have known dealing with hard copy everything & snail mail are two things I hate the most.

JC
JC
November 26, 2021 6:57 am

Going on David Rowe’s cartoon there’s fear that Peter Dutton could replace Scotty.
That would be a positive change, so it’s unlikely to happen.

Positive change as in possibly reducing the chances to zero of the libs attaining power again at the next election with unpopular Dutton as the next PM?

Mater
November 26, 2021 7:00 am
JC
JC
November 26, 2021 7:14 am

I wanted to post on this but haven’t much of late until yesterday.

The excerpt below is hilarious for a host of reasons.

It comes from here.

Comments will be curated based on the philosophy that the article above encapsulates. My philosophy. Not libertarianism.

It appears to suggest he has absolutely no idea what “libertarianism” means. But it means exactly what he’s implying – in that the owner of the piece has the right to determine what gets added as comments and what gets removed. It’s actually basic libertarian understanding.

Moreover, he appears to always be very critical of libertarians and he was and is often droning on about “stupid libertarians” this or “stupid libertarians” that, particularly at the old Catallaxy – ironically a libertarian blog. He’s allows himself the right to post comments at the old place criticizing libertarianism, but will remove any comments critical of his own stupid shit. Ooookkkkaaayy that works as a philosophy I guess, but I wouldn’t be advertising it and I’d be trying to cover for the glaring gap.

Mater
November 26, 2021 7:15 am

If approved, SPIKEVAX (commonly known by the name of its manufacturer, Moderna) could become the first vaccine in Australia available to children under 12.

“In making its decision to grant Moderna a provisional determination, the TGA considered evidence of a plan to submit comprehensive clinical data in relation to use in children,” the TGA said in a statement.

So Moderna have a plan to observe the effects of it’s vaccine on your children, and grandchildren, after it’s been mandated?

…and the TGA thinks this is a selling point!

It sounds remarkably like the recording methodology of a lab experiment.

Zatara
Zatara
November 26, 2021 7:22 am

De Blasio has left some massive problems but it’s coming back . I think and hope the black mayor will do okay.

I wouldn’t jump on that train too soon.

New York City Council Moving to Allow 800,000 Non-Citizens to Vote in Local Elections

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
November 26, 2021 7:29 am

They gotta keep the fear going on, and on, and on, and ….

Scientists have raised an urgent alarm about a new covid variant which was first spotted in Botswana which “spreads very quick’’ and has a “very unusual constellation of mutations’’.

The World Health Organisation working group on virus evolution has called an emergency meeting and Britain is looking at whether to impose a travel ban on arrivals from Africa and South Africa to try and slow the spread of the variant.

The WHO is meeting on Friday to decide whether to classify the new variant, B.1.1.529 as the next letter in the Greek alphabet, “Nu’’.

South Africa‘s Health Minister Joe Phaahla warned the variant was a major threat in his country, having sparked an ’exponential’ increase in covid cases in just days. “Initially it looked like the spike in cases were cluster outbreaks, but the indication is now there is a new variant’’ he said.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/coronavirus-australia-live-news-who-calls-crisis-meeting-over-new-s-african-variant/live-coverage/d13616f33c442ad8ce27dd371cadcbd8

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
November 26, 2021 7:32 am

Austrian doctors suggest a new low.

Vice President of the Lower Austrian Medical Association Gerrit Loibl has suggested that the government should levy a monthly fine of up to €100 to anyone unvaccinated.

Loibl has suggested that those who have not been vaccinated should pay between €90 and €100 (£78-£84/$90-$113) per month to the government, claiming that the amount is based on the current tax on tobacco products.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2021/11/25/unvax-tax-expert-proposes-monthly-fines-for-the-unvaccinated/

JC
JC
November 26, 2021 7:34 am

Zat, is the legislation coming before De Blasio or will it wait for the new guy? The new dude doesn’t appear to be a leftwing loon like De Blasio and even De Blasio doesn’t support it.

————-
Please note everyone. Sure,
Italian heritage has to carry the heavy burden of Nancy Peleso attempting to ruin America. It’s hard to live down.

Do not be under any misapprehension though that De Blasio is of Italian descent. The depraved loon, is I believe, of Dutch descent and the De Blasio name comes from his mother’s second marriage.

Ruining the country and also ruining the greatest city in that country is just too much and needed clarifying 🙂

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 26, 2021 7:37 am

So Moderna have a plan to observe the effects of it’s vaccine on your children, and grandchildren, after it’s been mandated?

It’s newspeak.

struth
struth
November 26, 2021 7:37 am

If I were to shout “Kill all traitors”
Would that upset anyone here?
I mean we don’t have any traitors in Australia do we?
And if we do, should they not be put up against a wall and shot?
Surely that’s not a threeat to anyone.
What if I said Kill Klaus……….would the Australian police come knocking at my door when he is in Germany, a German and I’m not saying anything Mullahs and many others call for daily toward Christians and others?

Zatara
Zatara
November 26, 2021 7:41 am

JC

Apparently de Blasio is against it, but the article mentions a “veto-proof” majority. If that’s true it doesn’t matter. The bill is ‘”expected to be approved on Dec 9″.

I strongly suspect it will be fought in court on constitutional grounds almost immediately.

JC
JC
November 26, 2021 7:41 am

My apologies. I can’t blame the Dutch. This time it’s Germany and Ireland with the other half you know who.

Bill de Blasio was born Warren Wilhelm Jr. on May 8, 1961. While he did not grow up in New York City, his parents drove from their home in Norwalk, Connecticut, to Manhattan’s Doctors Hospital for his birth.[1][2] He is the third son of Maria Angela (née de Blasio; 1917–2007) and Warren Wilhelm (1917–1979).[3] He changed his name to Warren de Blasio-Wilhelm in 1983 and to Bill de Blasio in 2001 to honor his maternal family and to reflect his alienation from his father.[1][4][5] De Blasio has two older brothers, Steven and Donald.[2] His mother was of Italian heritage, and his father was of German, English, French, and Scots-Irish ancestry.[6][7][8] His paternal grandparents were Donald Wilhelm, of Ohio, and Nina (née Warren), of Iowa.[9][10] His maternal grandfather, Giovanni, was from Sant’Agata de’ Goti, Benevento, and his grandmother, Anna (née Briganti), was from Grassano, Matera.[11][12] His paternal uncle, Donald George Wilhelm Jr., worked for the Central Intelligence Agency in Iran and ghostwrote the memoir of Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, the last shah of Iran.[13]

Okay, I can half understand someone wanting to change their family name, but what kind of lunatic changes their first name?

Aaron
Aaron
November 26, 2021 7:42 am

“C.L.says:
November 25, 2021 at 9:16 pm
Good Lord. Is Paul Murray being paid a retainer by Scott Morrison’s office?

Quislings are very good at exploiting confirmation”.

I know it is awful that Morrison is such a cuck, but the thought of Albo, Wong, Bowen, Burke, Marles etc.

It’s enough to make me take the Vax and booster.

Make that ten boosters.

struth
struth
November 26, 2021 7:45 am

People still talking about domestic political parties!

Mater
November 26, 2021 7:46 am

It’s newspeak.

Yes. I wish they’d be honest, but it might scare people.

From the TGA website:

“the person who made the application under subsection 22C(1) of the Act has provided sufficient evidence of the plan to submit comprehensive clinical data on the safety and efficacy of the medicine before the end of the 6 years (starting on the day that provisional registration of the medicine would commence if the Secretary were to provisionally register the medicine).”

It IS a lab experiment. A great big one. Most don’t even realise they are participating. Some are even offering up their children.

JC
JC
November 26, 2021 7:46 am

JC

Apparently de Blasio is against it, but the article mentions a “veto-proof” majority. If that’s true it doesn’t matter. The bill is ‘”expected to be approved on Dec 9?.

I strongly suspect it will be fought in court on constitutional grounds almost immediately.

Zat, these loons are beyond disgusting.

I can’t understand how blacks would support the demonrats any long when the entire demon effort is to make blacks redundant for election purposes by using the immigrant vote – legal or illegal. It’s just beyond me how they’re not 90% GOP.

Cassie of Sydney
November 26, 2021 7:47 am

We all know about the slippery slope argument, an argument that progressives always like to dismiss or mock….and yet time and time again this argument is proven right whether it’s about abortion, pornography, euthanasia, SSM and transgenderism. So we now live in a society where we have abortion at nine months, in the Netherlands and Belgian they’re euthanising children and teenagers and we are now saturated with the obscenity that is “transgenderism”…which at its core is a denial of biological reality. Note how since the legalisation of SSM in western countries the transgender movement has revved up and we are now witnessing the emergence of a very sinister movement, aimed at normalising adult attraction to children or as it is called in plain language…..pedophilia. When religions crash and religious leaders hide away, when societies trash their civilizational heritage, when social boundaries fall away, when social justice loses the plot and stops at legitimate battles, such as justice for homosexuals and moves onto “queer” theory, philosophy and acceptance, then we’re in big trouble.

So, back in 2017, one of the reasons why I voted NO to SSM back was because, as far I was concerned at the time (and my views haven’t changed), it was being used as a Trojan horse for the normalisation of much more sinister progressive theories and practices…..and once again I’ve been proven right. When, as a society, will we say NO?

Ayaan Hirsi Ali has written the following in the UK’s online magazine..”Unherd”….it’s very good…..

“Paedophilia is not progressive
Social justice campaigns have given up on morality

Now that safe spaces and universal acceptance have become the norm, it is fashionable to tolerate all kinds of proclivities and inclinations in the name of diversity. But until recently, we respected the nebulous line that faintly dissects the parameters of what we consider to be good and evil. Not so today, where there is a growing campaign to destigmatise everything, even if doing so requires us to unpick the moral fabric of our society.

How else are we to explain the two most disturbing causes trumpeted by modern progressives: of paedophilia and of polygamy? To some extent, they can’t be compared. Polygamy remains legal in a number of countries — from South Africa and Malaysia to Iran and Morocco. Paedophilia, on the other hand, has long been considered beyond the pale, and is effectively banned across the world. Most countries have an age of consent — and those that don’t, such as Sudan and Afghanistan, require a couple to be married before sex is legally allowed.

And yet, in America of all places, activists are now campaigning for the destigmatisation of paedophilic desires. To remain horrified is bigoted; we need to feel empathy for the “suffering” that paedophiles face. What makes this movement even more disturbing is that its advocates are not confined to some progressive fringe: even those whose jobs it is to end child sexual abuse now support it.

Only last week, Elizabeth Letourneau, Director of the Moore Center for the Prevention of Child Sexual Abuse at John Hopkins’s Bloomberg School of Public Health, tweeted: “Many adults with sexual attraction to children want help to control it, hate the feeling, don’t want to act on it. Helping them prevents #childsexualabuse. Stigmatizing the conversation puts kids at risk. #prevention.”

She was responding to the debate sparked at Old Dominion University earlier this month, after word spread around campus that one of its professors, Allyn Walker, had released a book over the summer titled A Long, Dark Shadow: Minor-Attracted People and Their Pursuit of Dignity. The book, according to its blurb, “offers a crucial account of the lived experiences of this hidden population”. In reality, all it offers is a disconcerting defence of paedophilia.

Walker, whose preferred pronouns are they/them, is concerned for the well-being of ‘minor-attracted people’ or MAPs, the new preferred term for individuals attracted to children. When asked about the use of MAPs in a recent interview, Walker responded: “I think it is important to use terminology for groups that members of that group want others to use for them. It is less stigmatising than other words like paedophile.” In other words: let’s not hurt the paedophiles’ feelings.

Throughout the interview, Walker deploys terms taken straight from the social justice playbook — as if paedophilia were just another sexual preference in need of its own Pride. Activists talk of “lowering stigma”; of a minority that is “at-risk” and “universally maligned”. As far back as 2017, in a PhD thesis titled Understanding Resilience Strategies among Minor-Attracted Individuals, Walker notes how “child pornography as a harm reduction technique has previously been theorised to be a potential strategy for MAPs to maintain abstinence from sexual contact with children”.

Although A Long, Dark Shadow was published in June, Old Dominion did not place Walker on leave until November 16th, after students began to protest. A petition was launched, making clear that paedophilia “should not be considered a sexual preference” and Walker should be fired. It has received more than 14,000 signatures.

Yet despite such overwhelming condemnation from the student body, the university’s statement regarding the situation was short, vague, and inadequately critical of Walker’s views. For Walker, however, the university’s action reflected the “gravity of the threats to me and other people on campus”. Walker’s critics’ disapproval was part of a “coordinated effort” against the LGBTQ community and academic freedom.

I am a firm defender of academic freedom. And I believe the problem of paedophilia needs to be studied. But that does not mean that we can ignore the danger destigmatising paedophilia poses to children. We should not be normalising the idea that it is tolerable to fantasise about sex with children. A university and a university press should not be pushing this kind of harmful material.

And yet this dangerous tendency to tolerate every and any proclivity, no matter how wicked, has become widespread: along with paedophilia, polygamy — a practice which should have ended centuries ago — is making a comeback as an acceptable form of relationship. Last year, Utah enacted Senate Bill 102, which lowers the penalty for polygamy from a felony to an offence on par with a traffic summons, as long as the new spouse consents to the marriage. Even pop culture is embracing the trend. Just this week, millennial influencer Lauryn Bosstick posted her thoughts on polygamy to her 1 million Instagram followers: “i am in to freedom of choice. i don’t waste my energy worried about what people’s relationship choices are – everyone’s different. if not hurting anyone & it works for you, go for it.”

But polygamy is harmful — to women, in particular, but also to society in general. Earlier this year, I interviewed Dr Dan Seligson on my podcast about its harms and dangers. He explained that polygamy actually breeds poverty in societies. It turns the human female into a commodity, destroys trust in society, and produces unhappiness in families. Growing up in Somalia, I have seen this all first-hand: my father had four wives. Not one of them was happy; not one of them thought their union was empowering.

And yet proponents of polygamy in the US today model their movement on the successful (and legitimate) campaign for same-sex marriage, pretending it is a similar form of liberation. Two practising polygamists summed up this tactic in a peculiarly supportive recent New Yorker profile: “I wish people would be as accepting with us as we try to be of everyone else.”

Here is where the slippery slope becomes a terrifying cliff face. Ingeniously, ‘minor-attracted people’ and polygamists are seeking the protection of the progressive umbrella. They want recognition as ‘maligned’ minorities who have been marginalised and overlooked by society. They want the freedom to love whomever they want, regardless of a person’s age or number of other partners. And it is working. The social justice movement is heeding their calls.

At the core of what we are seeing today is an assault on Western civilisation. In the West, we have a general moral framework. We share a broad understanding of right and wrong. But our norms and values are under attack. We have abdicated our responsibility to make moral judgements — and evil has started to seep in.

There will be some who claim that I am overreacting; that those arguing in favour of destigmatising paedophilia and polygamy are small groups who live in the dark corners of Twitter and will never have any real staying power. But the first steps have been taken. The path ahead is clear. As activists like Allyn Walker insinuate themselves into the social justice fold, the ranks of their warped campaigns will swell.

I have been a vocal advocate for women, children, homosexuals, apostates, and religious minorities for the past two decades. I believe in giving the voiceless a voice. I have also been a free-speech fundamentalist. But there must be a red line. No matter the context, there will never be anything progressive about paedophilia or polygamy.”

As always, Ayaan nails it. The progressive left loathe Ayaan because she’s a truth teller and the left doesn’t like truth.

JC
JC
November 26, 2021 7:48 am

struth says:
November 26, 2021 at 7:45 am
People still talking about domestic political parties!

No, we’re about to talk about you that CSPAN will soon carry a special called Road To The White House featuring you.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 26, 2021 7:49 am

If I were to shout “Kill all traitors”
Would that upset anyone here?

Not me. Although I would ask that a definition of ‘traitor’ be provided* as a baseline to determine who lives and who dies.

A reasonable question would also be – who sits in judgment on the traitor? Because if these things haven’t been worked out, it’s just yelling from the open back window of a Kia Sportage driving past a football ground.

*’Engaging in political or economic warfare’ is not a definition. It’s from the Australia One manifesto though, which for some reason has been yanked from the net.

Aaron
Aaron
November 26, 2021 7:53 am

Morrison now nagging for people to take boosters.

I’m starting to feel like Edward G Robinson in “Soylent Green”*.

* Interest fact: Made in 1973. Set in 2022 and a dystopian nightmare caused by “The Greenhouse Effect”.

They just missed the bit about compulsory needles.

Crossie
Crossie
November 26, 2021 7:59 am

I know it is awful that Morrison is such a cuck, but the thought of Albo, Wong, Bowen, Burke, Marles etc.

It’s enough to make me take the Vax and booster.

Make that ten boosters.

Like I said yesterday, if the outcome is the same why would anyone vote for either major party?

You never know, Labor may only insist on nine boosters.

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 26, 2021 8:05 am

who sits in judgment on the traitor?

Is there a carve out for train drivers if the truck drivers win control?

JC
JC
November 26, 2021 8:06 am

Crosstie please. The result is not the same.

Compare states – NSW and Victoria as an example. Please , let’s not get to how bad the libs are as we’re talking relativities.

feelthebern
feelthebern
November 26, 2021 8:07 am

Joe Rogan amplifying the FIFA registers deaths story that has been doing the rounds.
The numbers are pretty high.
108 players & coaches in the last six months.
The data looks pretty compelling.
I wonder how many other pro sports have similar numbers.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 26, 2021 8:08 am

I was amused by this one yesterday:

Renewables set to drive down power bills (Sky News Oz, 25 Nov)

Australian Energy Market Commission modelling shows bills will rise by about $20 between 2022 to 2023 – before dropping by $92.

That must be some really fun modelling since everything I’ve seen and read says that the correlation between rising electricity prices and increasing renewables per capita is nearly perfect everywhere on Earth.

Which brings me to this today:

German Power Prices Soar As Arctic Blast To Bring “Significant Snow” (25 Nov)

German day-ahead power prices jumped to the second-highest level ever, 273.89 euros per megawatt-hour. Day-ahead power prices are also higher in France and Netherlands.

Ouch. All those wind turbines you built don’t seem to be helping much, German peoples. Remember it was your pollies who did this, as you freeze in the dark this winter.

Barry
Barry
November 26, 2021 8:13 am
rosie
rosie
November 26, 2021 8:13 am

Child pornography isn’t a harm reduction technique for the children abused in the production of the child pornography.
Indeed addiction to child pornography seems to be a subset of child abuse.
Why doesn’t anyone talk about sin any more?
I guess that’s the problem when you look at Western Civilisation through an atheist lens.
And where is the movement to destigmatise being a white male?

JC
JC
November 26, 2021 8:20 am

And where is the movement to destigmatise being a white male?

Really? Like you want to legitimise this?

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P
P
November 26, 2021 8:27 am

Testing Perrottet
The NSW Premier must not betray those who have supported him the most
Paul Collits – Spectator Australia

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 26, 2021 8:27 am

BoN mentioned the Chermans freezing to death in the coming winter just before the page turn. This is, of course, great news.

But it also highlights a broader issue that a lot of people – Australians in particular, who live in a relatively warm country – don’t get.

Cheap, reliable power doesn’t just keep people out of poverty. It keeps them alive.

JC
JC
November 26, 2021 8:29 am
Aaron
Aaron
November 26, 2021 8:34 am

“Like I said yesterday, if the outcome is the same why would anyone vote for either major party”?

I suppose if you just deface the paper, it stops preferences.

I can see it now: Labor@14 percent, Liberal@16 percent and “Fuck you” @70 percent.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 26, 2021 8:42 am

Did I hear right? Dom is ‘modifying’ his roadmap?

If they are sensible changes then I can be the better man and allow myself to be mollified – to the extent that I will be content if him and his party be only humiliated in the next election and tossed out on their shiny ample behinds.

As opposed to what they have deserved until now – for dark smouldering chasms to open in the Earth’s crust and for them to be snatched down and within by the chthonic deities that filled the nightmares of our far off ancestors, huddled in in the caves, those dark spirits forgotten by man but who have not forgotten him, who will inflict torments upon them with a patience that is as impervious to pity as it is to time.

But one thinks one should be charitable.

Aaron
Aaron
November 26, 2021 8:42 am

Well done Rosie,

Nothing to see here.

It’s not like there has ever been any mention of these vaccines causing cardiac problems.

Aaron
Aaron
November 26, 2021 8:52 am

After Sheffield United player, now a Wigan player.

Bravo Rosie.

Meh. Two in one day. Been happening for years.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 26, 2021 8:54 am

I’m sure you read on JC and discovered how de Blasio dishonoured his WWII purple heart awarded father by dropping his name.
He did this after his dad committed suicide on the news of terminal lung cancer.
Mummy’s boy big time, which explains a lot.

JC
JC
November 26, 2021 8:56 am

Gez
No, I stopped reading before that.

What a horrible slimeball.

Aaron
Aaron
November 26, 2021 8:57 am
lotocoti
lotocoti
November 26, 2021 9:00 am

But it also highlights a broader issue that a lot of people – Australians in particular, who live in a relatively warm country – don’t get.

I suspect those living in their eaveless, zero boundary dog boxes will begin to get the point when they have to choose between the aircon and everything else.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 26, 2021 9:01 am

Soccer is soccer….
but, the dudes are going down clutching at their hearts.
Not their left arm, which is trad sign for good ol’ cardiac arrest. There is something distinctly new going on here.

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 26, 2021 9:03 am

Cruel but fair:

Shit Towns of Australia

The Gold Coast likes to fancy itself as Australia’s version of Las Vegas, which is true because it’s a tacky tourist trap adorned with fake tits, a shit casino and an unending parade of timeshare presentations.

The cluster of hotels masquerading as a city is where Australia keeps its unemployed Kiwi scaffolders while they wait for their shot at a third-rate reality show, and has-been strippers with multiple children to multiple men from multiple outlaw motorcycle gangs. If you are looking to get a shit neo-tribal tattoo or contract some novel form of super chlamydia, then the Gold Coast is probably your place!

Given that it’s Australia’s entertainment capital, the Gold Coast is filled with a plethora of such options, with the only downside being that they are all tacky and shit. On the Gold Coast, fine dining is ‘all-you-can-eat pancakes’ and a fun day out with the family features theme parks with worse safety standards than a Chinese coal mine.

Popular staples of Gold Coast nightlife include visiting a vampire-themed cabaret staffed entirely by people who look like they recently failed HIV tests, getting attacked by a lower grade league player with ‘roid rage’, or being thrown off a balcony after a Tinder date gone wrong. A popular event on the Gold Coast is ‘Schoolies Week’, which gives high school kids the chance to experiment with alcohol poisoning and tradies from Logan the chance to experiment with getting passed-out high school girls into the back of their van.

Gold Coast hosted the 2018 edition of the Commonwealth Games, an event that used to exist only so Britain’s former colonies could see who had the fastest slaves and now only exists to give white people who are too shit for the Olympics the chance to win medals, making it the Caucasian Special Olympics. The event celebrated the city’s rich sporting history, which includes multiple failed professional franchises across at least three sports.

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 26, 2021 9:04 am

Vice President of the Lower Austrian Medical Association Gerrit Loibl has suggested that the government should levy a monthly fine of up to €100 to anyone unvaccinated.

Of course they are, the vax cultists area a religion, and all the dhimmis must pay the jizya

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 26, 2021 9:07 am
JC
JC
November 26, 2021 9:07 am

Hilarious, Ender.

Aaron
Aaron
November 26, 2021 9:07 am

Indolent
Indolent
November 26, 2021 9:08 am
Aaron
Aaron
November 26, 2021 9:09 am
Tom
Tom
November 26, 2021 9:10 am

Top Ender, do you have a link for your post at 9.03am?

rickw
rickw
November 26, 2021 9:14 am

Woke up this morning, system check, hmmm, if I haven’t got Bat Flu I’ve got something!

Just went and got tested, process pretty smooth and efficient. Of course had the usual English as a second language communication problems compounded by the individual wearing a mask and face shield. Or maybe it’s just to much shooting and grinding without ear muffs?!

Missus getting pissed because she’s feeling really crook and me and the little bloke are joking around, saying “COVID-19” while pretending to choke to death and saying that we’ll do some wrestling as soon as I test positive.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 26, 2021 9:15 am

do you have a link for your post at 9.03am?
What, are you fact checking? Seems legit to me

Nelson_Kidd-Players
November 26, 2021 9:17 am

JC, upthread:

Okay, I can half understand someone wanting to change their family name, but what kind of lunatic changes their first name?

Can we exclude Clive James from this assessment? He had his reasons. 🙂

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 26, 2021 9:17 am

Mummy’s boy big time, which explains a lot.

He also had to change his name to William from Norman after that stupid expose years ago.

This is how he spends his evenings now – at least since his mother died.

rickw
rickw
November 26, 2021 9:18 am

and a fun day out with the family features theme parks with worse safety standards than a Chinese coal mine.

Laughing out loud!!

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 26, 2021 9:19 am

TaliDan rolls up 1362 cases and 7 dead.
We were promised last week by experts that the trend was going in the right direction.
Seems the Magic 8 Ball is on the blink.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 26, 2021 9:21 am

Rick W the strangest thing is, no-one seems to know the clinical symptoms of Batflu.
After millions of awareness-raising dollars spent by on govt announcements, and the co-option of heapsa private business effort for the last twenty months.
We’re a medical kinda family granted, but at a glance, I could nail-
stroke
cardiac arrest
anaphylaxsis
asthma
hypoglycaemia
epilepsy
meningitis
all the big non-force trauma presentations. The most deadly pandemic eva? Not a clue.

Indolent
Indolent
November 26, 2021 9:23 am
rickw
rickw
November 26, 2021 9:26 am

Cheap, reliable power doesn’t just keep people out of poverty. It keeps them alive.

I remember going out one night in Hamburg and it was -15’C or something ridiculous. Have a bit much sauce and lie down for a nap in that and you’re finished.

Davey Boy
Davey Boy
November 26, 2021 9:27 am

does this site support the strike through tags?
what about the del tags?

Davey Boy
Davey Boy
November 26, 2021 9:28 am

why yes, it does, both of them in fact

Aaron
Aaron
November 26, 2021 9:29 am
rickw
rickw
November 26, 2021 9:30 am

TaliDan rolls up 1362 cases and 7 dead.
We were promised last week by experts that the trend was going in the right direction.

Looks like this thing just runs its course no matter what you do. Could have done this 2 years ago you brainless traitors!

Aaron
Aaron
November 26, 2021 9:30 am

Keeping – keeling.

But you knew that.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 26, 2021 9:31 am

Cruel but fair:
Shit Towns of Australia

I keep in touch with a mate who moved to the Gold Coast by sending him this stuff. He inevitably sends me back worse stories.

Aaron
Aaron
November 26, 2021 9:33 am

How strange.

Remember last week that the experts are mystified by Africa’s lack of Covid?

Suddenly here comes Covid super Version.

From Africa.

Hmm.

P
P
November 26, 2021 9:38 am

Shit Towns of Australia
STOA Newsletter #44
Scroll down to ‘Throwback: Gold Coast’

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 26, 2021 9:39 am

…do you have a link for your post at 9.03am?

Nope, lifted off my Facebook feed.

If you go into FB and search you can find the page and sign up.

lotocoti
lotocoti
November 26, 2021 9:41 am

That main header should be attached to the main pic.
“These dramatic images …” **snork**

Cassie of Sydney
November 26, 2021 9:45 am

“Is it true that Premier Perottet’s father worked for The World Bank???”

So what?

lotocoti
lotocoti
November 26, 2021 9:49 am

Brace for bad news Bryan Adams fans.

Franx
Franx
November 26, 2021 9:52 am

Aaron
As with Africa, so it was with India, when Europe was getting a bit repetitive.

Bons
November 26, 2021 9:54 am

Bastard BOM.
They are going to dump on our demo tomorrow. Obviously deliberate.
Drive half way across Australia to sit in the car with the wipers on looking at a bunch of drowned rossers dressed like SS assault troops eyeing off granny struggling past past with her shopping trolly and umbrella.
This isn’t gonna stop the Ukranian.

Roger
Roger
November 26, 2021 9:57 am

Looks like this thing just runs its course no matter what you do. Could have done this 2 years ago you brainless traitors!

Given that he’s a panic merchant this is interesting:

Neil Ferguson (aka the bonking boffin) believes UK is almost at herd immunity.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 26, 2021 9:59 am

Was there anything of value posted last night between around 2200 and Tom’s Toons? I was scrolling past the stoush trolling so quickly, I might have missed it.

Perhaps there should be a separate thread for midnight stoushes?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 26, 2021 9:59 am

Their ABCcess spending one segment this morning downplaying numbers from last weekends ani mandate/vax rallys.
Its straight out of the demoralization playbook.

Apparently the biggest crowd might have been 20,000 according to the spokes-catamite for Victoria police who didnt count the numbers…

Psyops on a grand scale.
https://military-history.fandom.com/wiki/Demoralization_(warfare)
Sowing seeds of doubt and anxiety
Causing self-doubt or doubt in a cause is the simple definition most commonly ascribed to demoralization.[26] Though this is only one aspect of a successful strategic demoralization campaign, it is the most pronounced and essential part.[27] As noted by Harold D. Lasswell, “the keynote in the preliminary spade work is the unceasing refrain: Your cause is hopeless. Your blood is spilt in vain.”[28] Propaganda can be an indispensable tool in fostering an environment of doubt and anxiety.[29] Propaganda may be used to ensure the antagonist is the most feared party, give a feeling of non-worth to the target, exploit internal fissures inherent within the target group, or use the element of surprise to show a target population that their leadership and cause are unable to protect them from the impending enemy threat.

Tom
Tom
November 26, 2021 10:02 am

Breaking: Tim Paine has retired from all forms of cricket.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 26, 2021 10:03 am

ABCcess even have an article on it.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-26/coronacheck-melbourne-covid-protest-crowd-size/100650146

So who you going to believe, “experts” or your own lying eyes?

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 26, 2021 10:03 am

Land councils hit ICAC over Indigenous ‘rip-off’

Two land councils representing more than 40,000 Aboriginal people have lodged a formal complaint with the Independent Commission Against Corruption over the number of staff and students at the University of Sydney who self-identify as Indigenous.

The complaint, signed by Darkinjung Local Aboriginal Land Council chief executive Brendan Moyle and backed by Metropolitan Local Aboriginal Land Council chief executive Nathan Moran, says the university is failing to ensure that those who receive benefits for Aboriginal people are in fact Indigenous.

“Local Aboriginal people have tried talking to them and they have not listened, so now it’s time to see whether this is in fact corrupt conduct by the University of Sydney,” Mr Moyle said.

“These resources – jobs, scholarships for Indigenous people – are funded by the public. They are designed to help ­Aboriginal people lift themselves out of disadvantage. But how does the University of Sydney determine who is Indigenous? We believe it lets people self-identify. There is important legislation in this area, backed by common law. There is in fact a three-part test to determine Aboriginality, worked out by the ­giants whose shoulders we stand on, and the local land councils are a very important part of the ­process.

“The University of Sydney is not checking (the bona fides of those who claim to be Indigenous) and jobs, and scholarships and other benefits are flowing to ­people we call the box-tickers.

“This issue concerns local ­Aboriginal people, who want ­opportunities for their children, and their communities.”

Mr Moran said he met with the University of Sydney’s new vice-chancellor, Mark Scott, in October “and I personally told him: you have a problem. But he’s from the Department of Education so he knows the whole state government, every university … has the same ­problem.

“Organisations these days make money off how many Indigenous students they have, how many Indigenous staff they have. Benefits have been put in place to help Indigenous people get out of disadvantage but all I see is some people getting rich.”

In response. a university spokesman said: “Our vice-chancellor did recently meet a member of the Metropolitan Aboriginal Land Council. We haven’t received any formal complaint or any indication they would refer any concerns to ICAC.

“We operate under the standard definition used by the Australian government. We remain deeply committed to creating more higher education and leadership opportunities for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples.”

Darkinjung’s chair, BJ Duncan, said the “three-part” identity test came out of the land rights movement “and it’s important because it’s not only about land. It’s about identity, sovereignty, integrity. It’s about our community and the future.

Mr Moyle said “Cultural fraud is not victimless. Receiving a benefit to which you’re not entitled is fraud; and any public official who enables it should be investigated.”

The letter to ICAC specifically targets “the acceptance of self-identification of Aboriginal identity” by the University of Sydney but Mr Moyle said “we will be fighting on many fronts. This is the beginning of legitimate Aboriginal communities unpacking deeper systemic ­issues across the allocation of public resources.”

The letter argues that “the failure of the University of Sydney to operate within legislation … is likely to satisfy the definition of corrupt conduct under the Independent Commission Against Corruption Act 1988 (NSW).”

It says the Aboriginal Land Rights Act 1983 (NSW) “remains the primary legislative mechanism for defining Aboriginality in NSW” and “should be applied by all public officials and ­institutions”.

“We have been advised that the University of Sydney, as is the case with many government entities and other institutions, does not require a confirmation of Aboriginality from an Aboriginal community-controlled organisation with cultural authority to provide a proof of Aboriginality.

“This allows the university to be the determining entity for whether a person is accepted as an Aboriginal person. This significantly increases the opportunity for people who do not meet the legal definition of Aboriginality to falsely receive benefits that are provided at significant expense.”

It says benefits provided by the University of Sydney include “employment, scholarships, support targeted exclusively to Aboriginal people; the opportunity to apply for a Gadigal early conditional offer of enrolment; lower minimum ATAR requirements; access to an academic skills program before commencing university; ongoing academic and personal support while studying for a degree” and participation in “culturally significant events.”

The claim says there are ­about “90 staff employed by Sydney University who identify as Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander”.

“Issues with Aboriginal identity have continued to grow as people are self-identifying … to access significant benefits,” Mr Moyle said. “These are intended for legitimate Aboriginal people who have experienced dispossession and disadvantage due to racism, not for people who have not experienced these and who have generally lived a life of advantage and wealth.”

Oz with comments

Roger
Roger
November 26, 2021 10:05 am

German Power Prices Soar As Arctic Blast To Bring “Significant Snow” (25 Nov)

Ouch. All those wind turbines you built don’t seem to be helping much, German peoples. Remember it was your pollies who did this, as you freeze in the dark this winter.

Public support for renewables has always been high in Germany, Bruce.

They voted for this.

Personally I think it’s yet another facet of their national death wish.

The future of W. Europe, such as it is, will largely be determined by the French.

Horrible thought that. At least the UK is out of it.

Roger
Roger
November 26, 2021 10:07 am

Breaking: Tim Paine has retired from all forms of cricket.

Well played, Cricket Australia.

Bluey
Bluey
November 26, 2021 10:08 am

Top ender that’s absolute gold! Wish it’d happened earlier. Now the Aboriginals need to cotton on to there’s more Africans in Oz than them…..

Tom
Tom
November 26, 2021 10:08 am

Update: Tim Paine says he is taking an “indefinite” break from cricket, suggesting he’ll get back on the money train after the current shitstorm has blown over.

twostix
twostix
November 26, 2021 10:09 am

ahaha these one nation cartoons are getting better and better.

Roger
Roger
November 26, 2021 10:16 am

“Issues with Aboriginal identity have continued to grow as people are self-identifying … to access significant benefits,” Mr Moyle said. “These are intended for legitimate Aboriginal people who have experienced dispossession and disadvantage due to racism, not for people who have not experienced these and who have generally lived a life of advantage and wealth.”

Just a thought…how about we hand out welfare according to need not race?

Slim Cognito
Slim Cognito
November 26, 2021 10:16 am

if I haven’t got Bat Flu I’ve got something

Sorry to hear it Rickw. With the focus on Covid people forget about other forms of sickness.

I had a mild chest infection recently. Got a negative test and saw the GP. Didn’t even need antibiotics. It passed in about a week. But anyone who observed me coughing gave me a death stare like I had the plague.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 26, 2021 10:18 am

Is I t true that Premier Perottet’s father worked for The World Bank???”
So what?

Clearly you don’t get your takeaway at Comet Pizza.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 26, 2021 10:23 am

Update: Tim Paine says he is taking an “indefinite” break from cricket, suggesting he’ll get back on the money train after the current shitstorm has blown over.

I’ll assume that is not taken directly from the press release. Did he even bother to say he is depressed?

Bushkid
Bushkid
November 26, 2021 10:26 am

Mak Siccar says:
November 26, 2021 at 7:29 am
They gotta keep the fear going on, and on, and on, and ….

Scientists have raised an urgent alarm about a new covid variant which was first spotted in Botswana which “spreads very quick’’ and has a “very unusual constellation of mutations’’.

Yes, all well and good, the new scare right on schedule and all that.

But – what are the symptoms of this variant? Are they any different, or worse, or not? Is this like the “new variant” in the UK that is apparently “symptomless”? (If you believe that one either you’re nuts, or there is a new mutation and it’s basically harmless, as is the usual progression of viruses as time goes on.)

They can make up and tell us any shit they like now, and all too many people will believe them. The announcement of a new mutation right now very conveniently gives the government another panic prod to apply to the remaining cleanskins, even as the evidence mounts that these jabs are very harmful to many.

I wonder whatever happened to that precautionary principle they were all so keen on when talking about “saving the planet”? It used to apply to new medications and vaccines….

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 26, 2021 10:28 am

“Issues with Aboriginal identity have continued to grow as people are self-identifying … to access significant benefits,” Mr Moyle said. “These are intended for legitimate Aboriginal people who have experienced dispossession and disadvantage due to racism, not for people who have not experienced these and who have generally lived a life of advantage and wealth.”

Didn’t Andrew Bolt face the courts for suggesting something similar?

P
P
November 26, 2021 10:30 am
thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 26, 2021 10:30 am

“Organisations these days make money off how many Indigenous students they have, how many Indigenous staff they have. Benefits have been put in place to help Indigenous people get out of disadvantage but all I see is some people getting rich.”

So you mean the organizations that pushed for extra funding based on shonky race claims to disadvantage also ensured they were the beneficiaries of the change??

Say it isnt so!!!

rickw
rickw
November 26, 2021 10:34 am

Once you get more than a few hundred people, it just looks very big. All you can do is pull big numbers out of the air

Or if you’re not a fucking lying Mong, you can find the area of Flagstaff Garden, do a rough average of people per M2 from aerial footage and calculate a reasonable approximation which easily gets you to the 75k to 150k range at Flagstaff Gardens alone.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 26, 2021 10:34 am

Quick chat with my allergic reaction to the vax bloke.

You no longer have the right to request your own medical records in WA.
You MAY be able to access them via a FOI request.

He has a phone appointment mid January to be told whats going on.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 26, 2021 10:35 am

So you mean the organizations that pushed for extra funding based on shonky race claims to disadvantage also ensured they were the beneficiaries of the change??

That should help Close the Gap.

rickw
rickw
November 26, 2021 10:35 am

It begins.

Fucking dirty lying internationalist scum.

rickw
rickw
November 26, 2021 10:38 am

My sister just express posted me some Ivermectin horse paste.

Joe Rogans a pussy for not using real horse paste!

twostix
twostix
November 26, 2021 10:38 am

Australia will kick start a coronavirus booster shot campaign on Friday in a bid to prevent lockdowns and avoid crippling the nation’s hospitals next winter.

Sorry, I’m not a crazy anti-vaxxer, I believe the Science!(tm) that the vaccination makes you immune to the disease like they said.

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
November 26, 2021 10:42 am

flyingduk

How do they test for COVID?
Is it still the inappropriate & inaccurate PCR test?

What are testing for – the spike protein?
If yes, how do they tell a COVID spike protein from a “vaxxine” spike protein?

thanks,
tony

Cassie of Sydney
November 26, 2021 10:42 am

This morning I walked to my bus stop on Oxford Street, Paddington and I was shocked to see about five stickers plastered to the bus stop timetable sign (clear vandalism of state government property). These stickers contained anti-News Corporation bile. So, shocked and angry, I used my fingernails to tear them off. They contained blurbs like The Daily Terrorgraph, News Corpse etc, they are professionally made stickers, somebody has spent good money on these. Once I’d taken them off with my fingernails, I realised I should have taken a photo of them so I noticed a sticker a few metres up on an electrical pole so I took a photo.

I have sent the picture to Chris Kenny and James Morrow. I suspect this is GetUp at work.

Tom
Tom
November 26, 2021 10:45 am

It begins.

Nothing is surprising if you start from the premise that our politicians are venal nest-feathering idiots being led by incompetent government “experts” who are making it up as they go along.

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 26, 2021 10:46 am

My sister just express posted me some Ivermectin horse paste.

EBay will send you Eraquell direct

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
November 26, 2021 10:47 am

SO the booster is required now, beg Dec, which means another booster must be required next May/June to cover our next winter, is that how it works?

Roger
Roger
November 26, 2021 10:47 am

He warned that without a booster shot program, the nation’s hospitals would be under pressure.

Line up, children.

Now listen…it’s up to you to save the nation’s hospitals.

twostix
twostix
November 26, 2021 10:49 am

This really is beginning to look like they’re re-categorised what we broadly used to just call the grab bag of seasonal viruses: ‘the flu’, and they have a utopian plan to control and abolish seasonal respiratory outbreaks from society entirely via a new medical technocractic authoritarian social system.

Like someone who learns that we’re all covered in bacteria and becomes hyper-aware of bacteria which develops into a complex, the torrents of data coming out of the new advanced viral reporting / ‘surveillance’ and modeling health systems every country implemented in the 2010’s (at the WHO’s order) to track seasonal respiratory diseases in every country are clearly feeding this mania.

Same energy as climate change ‘science’ – lots of data showing what was always there, now being exploited by midwit ‘scientists’, activists and politicians.

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 26, 2021 10:49 am

How do they test for COVID? Is it still the inappropriate & inaccurate PCR test?
What are testing for – the spike protein? If yes, how do they tell a COVID spike protein from a “vaxxine” spike protein?

I believe the vast majority of testing is still the completely invalid PCR test – it should NOT be used to mass screen well people, and should be run at many fewer amplification cycles anyway.

The PCR looks for a section of the genetic code which is specific to the SARSC0V2 genome, not the spike protein itself.

I do not know if the mRNA they give you in the vaccines can produce a positive signal on a PCR, but who cares, they are lying about everything, they can report whatever numbers they want.

Indolent
Indolent
November 26, 2021 10:52 am

“Is it true that Premier Perottet’s father worked for The World Bank???”

So what?

So, the other part of that equation was the Perottet himself bought large quantities of PCR tests from the World Bank in 2018. If that can be verified, it’s slightly suspicious, wouldn’t you say? What did he know, and when did he know it.

twostix
twostix
November 26, 2021 10:53 am

A gerontocracy always sacrifices children to save itself.

Indolent
Indolent
November 26, 2021 10:53 am

Brace for bad news Bryan Adams fans.

A good laugh in the morning never hurts.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 26, 2021 10:54 am

Oh and my chap asked his GP if he could have a blood test to see if he had immunity/antibodies from the first shot.

Against the regs for a doctor to do that.

https://www.rcpa.edu.au/Library/COVID-19-Updates/COVID-19-Useful-Resources/Docs/GPs-face-$20k-fines-for-using-serology-tests-to-di.aspx

In WA, GPs who oer the tests can be fined up to $20,000, while companies face fines of up to
$100,000 under the state’s Public Health Act.
The WA Department of Health said they made the declaration because of concerns about the “serious
limitations” of the tests, which oered an “unacceptable risk” of community transmission due to false
negatives.
Health oicials stressed that the serological tests could be used as a screening tool for people aer they
have had the infection or for the purpose of public health research.
SA also announced a ban on Thursday, with oicials declaring that use of the tests “may adversely aect the
prevention, control and abatement of the serious public health risk presented by COVID-19”.
The State Government said the ban would apply to anyone outside SA Pathology employees or public
health services, with police able to issue fines of up to $1000 to GPs and $5000 to companies that oered the
test.
The TGA itself advised that serology testing could not determine if someone was infectious, adding that the
tests were generally used to provide historic information about viral exposure.

struth
struth
November 26, 2021 10:54 am

Nothing is surprising if you start from the premise that our politicians are venal nest-feathering idiots being led by incompetent government “experts” who are making it up as they go along.

I once would have given you more credit , but this is horseshit, and you know it.
And you know why.
What is it that makes you determined to not see the forest for the trees?
190 countries all with idiot governments making it up as they go along, yet somehow, surprisingly, doing exactly the same thing with exactly the same slogans…………

rickw
rickw
November 26, 2021 10:57 am
Bar Beach Swimmer
November 26, 2021 10:58 am

I haven’t read up thread so no idea what others think about Tim Paine “stepping away” from cricket because of things that happened some years ago off the field.

A few month ago there were a few stories in the papers about the possible return of Steve Smith to a leadership position – noises like “he’s come back well/he’s earned his place/perhaps the vice captaincy?” I just saw on Sky Michael Hussey supporting that possibility, saying “he’s learnt a lot about himself etc.”

Everyone has things happen in their lives, some of which is beyond their control and other things that they “did or failed to do.” No-one wants to have to go through those things and hopefully most of us learn from the experience.

Tim Paine did a stupid thing – but from what I understand it was between two “consenting” adults (I make the assumption that there was no crime committed by him). And though he wronged his wife by engaging in this stuff, ultimately it’s between the three people directly and has/should have nothing to do with his employer.

Steve Smith, from his own behaviour and lack of leadership, directly damaged Australian cricket, nationally and internationally, and directly brought the game into disrepute. From accounts (media derived), he’s learnt some lessons about leadership, responsibilities when holding any position, especially authority positions, and what personal weakness can do. But those lessons cannot wipe away what he let happen on the field in South Africa, though he has been punished for it. But to give him another chance in cricket leadership is not reasonable, for always there will be questions about his probity.

Tim Paine, otoh, seems to have become collateral damage for the “people” who want Smith back. Though Paine’s situation is different to another, earlier, captain, it still reminds me of Kim Hughes.

twostix
twostix
November 26, 2021 10:58 am

If you get the Booster in December you’ll be ‘unvaccinated’ (lol Science!) by next May / June.

Which means your friendly Pfizer pusher Scomo will be telling you in May to get ready to get your next allocated already paid for ‘dose’, or no passport for you and you’re killing old people by hypothetically taking up an imaginary hospital bed that doesn’t even exist – you selfish anti-vaxxer.

At that point many will wonder what was the point of getting the first one, or any, but by then seeing unvaccinated people sitting alone in ‘lockdown’ and the looming threat of moving them to quarantine camps, will decide it’s best to just get that one too.

And so it will go.

Forever.

Aaron
Aaron
November 26, 2021 10:59 am

1. Morrison says booster time.

2. Dirty old Fergie ( no not the royal ranga) suggests UK nearing herd immunity.

3. Deadly African version coming and it’s IMMUNE to the jabs.

Thank fuck the jabs give at least something immunity.

Well, besides the manufacturers.

Someday we’ll look back and laugh.

Or cry.

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
November 26, 2021 11:06 am

Nothing is surprising if you start from the premise that our politicians are venal nest-feathering idiots being led by incompetent government “experts” who are making it up as they go along.

Nothing is surprising if you start from the most obvious premise that our politicians / governments want most of us dead (95+%)

twostix
twostix
November 26, 2021 11:06 am

Speaking of ‘taking up hospital beds’ that are apparently, according to the state and media the sole property of 65+ year olds, I mentioned before, but looking at the Health NSW data not one single person over the age of 90 ever went to ICU with covid.

Weird right?

Cassie of Sydney
November 26, 2021 11:08 am

“Bar Beach Swimmersays:
November 26, 2021 at 10:58 am”

Great comment BBS and I agree wholeheartedly.

Roger
Roger
November 26, 2021 11:08 am

They don’t want to leave anyone unvaxxed. Their motto is: If it walks, we can vaxx it.

Prof. Tony Blakely’s entire career, from his PhD thesis onwards, is premised on the belief that vigorous government intervention is the answer to every public health problem, from colo-rectal cancer to cigarette smoking to obesity and now covid, and that the end justifies the means.

Yes, he’s an epidemiologist.

“If the only tool you have is a hammer, you tend to see every problem as a nail.”
Abraham Maslow

Bar Beach Swimmer
November 26, 2021 11:09 am

The TGA itself advised that serology testing could not determine if someone was infectious

mole, that reminds of that bloke in Canada who, because he was fined at anti-lockdown march and went to court. He asked the court to have the province’s health depart provide evidence that the virus has been isolated.

Fined $1200 for violating the Covid-19 Public Health Act, for his defence Patrick King requested the isolation of the SARS-COV2 virus. He wanted it isolated, and not in a lab setting or Covid PCR test. The judge allowed him to subpoena Deena Hinshaw, the Chief Medical Officer of Health for the province of Alberta. He won the case when Deena Hinshaw’s lawyers said, “Mr King is requesting evidence we cannot give.” They didn’t have any material evidence to fight the case and he won

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
November 26, 2021 11:09 am

flyingduk says:
November 26, 2021 at 10:49 am

Thanks for that – so it’s basically all bullshit

Dot
Dot
November 26, 2021 11:09 am

The TGA itself advised that serology testing could not determine if someone was infectious

That’s complete bullshit.

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