Open Thread – Mon 20 Dec 2021


The Annunciation, Henry Ossawa Tanner, 1898

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miltonf
miltonf
December 21, 2021 10:27 am

The Pentagon is evil and has been for a long time. The centre of the Washington War Machine.

EvilElvis
EvilElvis
December 21, 2021 10:27 am

Libertarians think they’re intellectual stoners with morals .

In reality they’re just stoned lefties.

miltonf
miltonf
December 21, 2021 10:30 am

Generals and majors seem so unhappy unless they’ve got a war.

calli
calli
December 21, 2021 10:34 am

In other news, my plant for the day is this beauty.

I will be planting three this afternoon to celebrate the Summer Solstice.

Roger
Roger
December 21, 2021 10:35 am

VIC appears to have 81 covid cases in ICU.

Other states 0.

The place to be.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 21, 2021 10:35 am

miltonfsays:
December 21, 2021 at 10:30 am
Generals and majors seem so unhappy unless they’ve got a war.

I think you mean talk of war. An actual war the Generals and Majors get found out very quickly if they can’t deliver.

Zipster
Zipster
December 21, 2021 10:38 am

I still can’t get my head around big American companies being anti American

Big corporates are trans-national, US is just another market

One has to keep in mind too, that communism was always globalist in nature. What differentiated the nazis was the nationalism and the co-opting of corporates for state aims.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 21, 2021 10:40 am

Those are beautiful Calli. Must get some as we have space after removing an excess of Cymbidiums at our beach house. Still have too many.

miltonf
miltonf
December 21, 2021 10:42 am

I think the conduct of the office class in regard to the SAS persecution amounts to class warfare.

Frank
Frank
December 21, 2021 10:46 am

There is a certain type of woman who loads the bullets for her menfolk to fire.

Wait until yer father gets home!

Girls prefer to be the good cop it seems.

calli
calli
December 21, 2021 10:47 am

Very easy to grow – anywhere the common beach lily grows. Watch for crinum moth – super ugly caterpillars that gnaw away at the leaves then burrow into the bulbs.

Try to get the purplest leaf form – they are the most attractive and make a good contrast with grey succulents like senecio beneath to hide the enormous bulbs.

Zipster
Zipster
December 21, 2021 10:48 am

What differentiated the nazis was the nationalism and the co-opting of corporates for state aims.

So the chinese have adopted nazism, learnt from the russian mistake of relying on propaganda to motivate the industrial base, kept low for decades and demolished and co-opted the wests industrial base and are now ramping up its military capabilities and alternate warfare such biological.

The davos crowd have seen this coming and are softening up the west for the rise of china hoping to make a quid in the process. What davos didn’t see coming was “common prosperity”, this won’t sit well with the west’s billionaire class, so in my opinion the probability to war keeps rising.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 21, 2021 10:48 am

Woops, Bromeliads instead.

Frank
Frank
December 21, 2021 10:50 am

H B Bear says:
December 21, 2021 at 10:06 am

Which group of individuals are in the running for it then?

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 21, 2021 10:50 am

The GOP won Virginia because Indian & Asian migrants voted GOP or stayed home.
Because of education.
Matt Taibbi has written 3 columns on it now.
Energy prices – touted as one reason – had no real impact on swing voters because they are all so wealthy.
Poor people in Virginia who energy prices were biting were going to vote GOP anyway.

Roger
Roger
December 21, 2021 10:52 am

One has to keep in mind too, that communism was always globalist in nature. What differentiated the nazis was the nationalism and the co-opting of corporates for state aims.

Not exactly; this was the dispute between Trotsky, who was an internationalist, and Lenin and later Stalin, who favoured ‘Socialism in One Country’ after the failure of the western European revolutions in the immediate post-WWI period..

As for China, its use of capitalism to develop its economy could have been taken directly from Lenin’s New Economic Policy of 1921.

P
P
December 21, 2021 10:53 am
johanna
johanna
December 21, 2021 10:53 am

Your taxes at work:

In its report, the Centre said the drop in arrivals into Victoria during Melbourne’s second lockdown in 2020, and then increase in departures after the lockdown ended was a pattern they expected to see again for states who had recent lockdowns.

“Net interstate migration is forecast to increase for all states except New South Wales and Victoria in 2020-21 and 2021-22,” it said.

“This increase is expected to be driven by migration from New South Wales and Victoria to other states.

“Queensland is forecast to continue to experience the largest net interstate migration gains as it has avoided extended lockdowns and has historically been a popular destination for interstate migrants.

“These assumptions have led to a forecast of the largest ever annual net outflow of residents for Sydney in 2021-22 of 38,900 people. Melbourne is forecast to record a net outflow of around 32,000 people.”

The Centre also said there was a higher than usual migration of people to South Australia and Western Australia that correlated with the end of Melbourne’s second lockdown.

People are moving to WA? How? Secret submarine landings or black helicopters putting down in the Kimberley?

But the Centre said the “shock” to interstate migration was expected to temporary and the usual patterns of movement, that see most people move to NSW and Victoria, should return in 2022-23.

So much so that by 2024-45 Victoria is once again expected to be the fastest-growing state, with Melbourne tipped to overtake Sydney as the biggest city before the end of the decade.

The Victorian economy will be a smoking ruin in 24/25, and the only way the population will overtake Sydney is if they direct all ‘refugees’ and immigration Ponzi people there.

So, what is the Centre for Population?

Here is its home page.

It is a murky outfit funded by us, whose public profile tells us absolutely nothing.

No prizes for guessing what the agenda is, though.

Rabz
December 21, 2021 10:55 am

Pogria – as someone has noted above, you might be thinking of an excerpt from Holst’s “The Planets”, specifically “Mars”. I vowed never to listen to it upon hearing it was that deadshit Keating’s (allegedly) favourite piece of music. If I’m not incorrect the insufferable wanker used to have it played over the PA when he shuffled on to bloviate (about his own greatness) at labore conferences.

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 21, 2021 10:56 am

On Malice Locals, someone posted a link to a poll of Biden 2020 voters under 30.
Student loan forgiveness was the number one reason two thirds voted for Biden.
This is great for the GOP long term.
Once you get fucked so hard like that, you join the cohort of people that will stay home.
Just like the people that voted Obama to get out of Iraq & Afghanistan.
That was the last time cohorts of people voted (or the last time they voted DNC).

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 21, 2021 10:57 am

This is why voluntary voting is acid in the ears of the Cathedral.
They hate the idea of people saying fuck it & not voting.

jupes
jupes
December 21, 2021 10:57 am

National Cabinet is also expected to discuss whether Australians may need to have had a third dose to be considered fully vaccinated – a move made in the US, Israel and Singapore.

No. National Cabinet is expected to mandate the third dose (no longer a booster) to be considered fully vaccinated.

SloMo will cave to the premiers just like he always has.

Roger
Roger
December 21, 2021 10:58 am

I wouldn’t bet on the US military coming to the party on the right side of history in the next few years.

One international commentator pointed to this as a possible and crucial weakness in Australia allying itself long term with the US as we’ve done, for e.g., in the subs deal.

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 21, 2021 10:59 am

2024 means nothing if the mid terms don’t yield results in the state houses.

Cassie of Sydney
December 21, 2021 11:01 am

“Because of education.”

Yep…..and Youngkin was able to use education and the indoctrination of CRT to reach out to those Indians and Asians.

P
P
December 21, 2021 11:02 am

REPORTER: Will Biden take questions tomorrow?
PSAKI: “It depends on what you ask!”

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1473079182980788226

duncanm
duncanm
December 21, 2021 11:02 am

It is a murky outfit funded by us, whose public profile tells us absolutely nothing.

but they does do good English

Annual population growth was positive in all states and territories except for Victoria, however, was lower compared to the previous year in all states except the Northern Territory

Cassie of Sydney
December 21, 2021 11:02 am

I think Manchin’s apostacy is interesting….he can feel the wind.

Walker
Walker
December 21, 2021 11:04 am

EU has approved Novavax.

Zipster
Zipster
December 21, 2021 11:05 am

The ABS has annually re-weighted the Consumer Price Index (CPI) and Selected Living Cost Indexes (SLCIs) since 2018, predominantly using Household Final Consumption Expenditure (HFCE) data. Annually re-weighting the CPI ensures that the CPI basket continues to be representative of spending by Australian households.

Last week they published the proposed changes to the index, The 2021 re-weight will apply from the December 2021 quarter. The CPI will be released on 25 January 2022 and the SLCIs will be released on 2 February 2022.

No surprise then that CPI is on average understated. The question is by how much. It is a complex task to try to recompute the true CPI, and it depends on both methodology and baseline assumptions. However my quick back of the envelope estimate is the true CPI in Australia is running closer to 7%. Which means the RBA have taken interest rates way to low, an inflated housing to the max. This is another pure case of Numberwanging…

Razey
Razey
December 21, 2021 11:05 am

Walkersays:
December 21, 2021 at 11:04 am
EU has approved Novavax.

We wont. Plus, I now dont any of thier clot shots. Fukem.

Tom
Tom
December 21, 2021 11:05 am

VIC appears to have 81 covid cases in ICU.
Other states 0.

Victoria appears to have cornered the market for incompetent doctors and hospitals. And the most incompetent of them, like Brett Sutton, become evangelical political activists with medical degrees in the public service, campaigning for weirdo religious causes like climate change.

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 21, 2021 11:07 am

The most important race in the US is whether Blake Masters wins his primary to run as the GOP candidate for Senate in the mid terms.
If he doesn’t win, the GOP runs the risk of Peter Thiel saying fuck it.
Thiel is backing dozens of candidates in state & federal campaigns at the mid terms.
If 2022 doesn’t work, it’s unlikely he’ll back up for 2024.
He knows that if you don’t over turn the ballot harvesting laws at a legislative level in Georgia, Arizona, Pennsylvania, there is no point contributing in 2024.

lotocoti
lotocoti
December 21, 2021 11:09 am

Don’t worry.
Ruinables will pick up the slack.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 21, 2021 11:14 am

Vickisays:
December 21, 2021 at 8:56 am
An interesting opinion of Eugyppius on the origins of Omicron:

https://eugyppius.substack.com/p/omicron-is-not-normal

Going out on a limb here. Moronic released deliberately first, then Alpha strain, then Delta strain. If looking at the graph why didn’t Moronic have any effect sooner. Not until the third jabs did it appear on mass. This whole episode appears to me to be a power grab instead of killing off a large group of people, ala Bill Gates style of population control. We all know Governments all over have lied about the number of actual deaths due to the coff. The number of cases is artificially high due to the tortured testing method. Another part of the control mechanism. The low numbers out of china, if believable seem extraordinarily low considering every other coof that comes out of china is devastating to the local population. These are just things that occurred to me.

Roger
Roger
December 21, 2021 11:14 am

Prof. Paul Kelly has written to all state and territory leaders avocating an indoor mask mandate.

Merry Christmas!

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 21, 2021 11:18 am

This is why voluntary voting is acid in the ears of the Cathedral.
They hate the idea of people saying fuck it & not voting

You’re not wrong ftb- suddenly clinging to the middle and trying to pick up the +1 vote would have to be thrown out the window.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
December 21, 2021 11:21 am

Libertarians think they’re intellectual stoners with morals .

Libertines that can’t spell.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 21, 2021 11:22 am

I think Manchin’s apostacy is interesting….he can feel the wind.

Which is true since he’s a weathervane. Classic Manchin photos taken 3 weeks apart. (article linky)

Trump got 68.62% in West Virginia. Joe rather likes being a senator and may even jump ship to the Republicans, although it will be interesting to see if they’d let him join.

calli
calli
December 21, 2021 11:28 am

Classic Manchin photos taken 3 weeks apart.

A man of conviction, I see.

johanna
johanna
December 21, 2021 11:31 am

miltonf says:
December 21, 2021 at 10:09 am

Reducing fatherhood to sperm donation.

Sorry milton, but part of the biological imperative is that some biological fathers are indeed just sperm donors. The Deserted Wives pension was introduced for precisely that reason. Or, if you look at the US, intact families are on the decline – sperm donors are like wombats.

I fully support the traditional family model, but the reality is that many men do not have the same attachment to their children that mothers have. Which is why the mothers almost always end up living with and supporting the kids.

Don’t get tangled up in the Family Court crap here. Just ask yourself – how many fathers are bringing up kids from three different mothers?

The answer would be so close to zero as not to matter.

local oaf
December 21, 2021 11:32 am

Tom says:
December 21, 2021 at 11:05 am

VIC appears to have 81 covid cases in ICU.
Other states 0.

Victoria appears to have cornered the market for incompetent doctors and hospitals.

Andrews will keep his ICU wards full of people right up to the federal election. Even if they’re in no danger. Always be plenty of cases, terrify a few of them into believing they’re gonna die and stick them in front of the cameras.

After the election with albo in charge, empty the wards and dial down the panic.

Let albo take the credit for getting the country back to “normal”.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
December 21, 2021 11:32 am

National Cabinet is expected to mandate the third dose (no longer a booster) to be considered fully vaccinated.

That’s a classical technique from the government nudge unit. Change the language.
Another technique – run the idea up the flagpole by selectively leaking it to the press so that when the new definition of “fully vaccinated” is announced, people will not be shocked.

Baba
Baba
December 21, 2021 11:34 am

Re Trump v DeSantis. The world can’t afford three consecutive terms of germophobic US Presidents.

Zipster
Zipster
December 21, 2021 11:34 am

Not exactly; this was the dispute between Trotsky, who was an internationalist, and Lenin and later Stalin, who favoured ‘Socialism in One Country’ after the failure of the western European revolutions in the immediate post-WWI period..

not quite. the bolsheviks where always internationalists, hence there anthem being the internationale. It’s not like russia had any choice about being inward focused after the war.

As for China, its use of capitalism to develop its economy could have been taken directly from Lenin’s New Economic Policy of 1921.

I think this policy was temporary in nature, so you could argue china did the same. China obviously learnt from the collapse of the USSR.

Did the west vastly misunderstand the “white cat, black cat” analogy, did they read into it, what they wanted to see? I would say so.

Roger
Roger
December 21, 2021 11:37 am

I think this policy was temporary in nature, so you could argue china did the same. China obviously learnt from the collapse of the USSR.

Yes indeed. Xi understands he must keep the wealth trickling down and food on the supermarket shelves.

johanna
johanna
December 21, 2021 11:37 am

Zipster says:
December 21, 2021 at 10:13 am

FWIIW, I absolutely agree that blaming everything on “feminism” is like blaming droughts on the Sun. Feminism has a long and complicated history, some of it good, some of it bad. I for one to not want to return to a world where women could not own property, or vote, or be raped if they were married, or get sacked from their jobs if they got married.

well of course you wouldn’t you’re a woman…. but…

the current course of civilisation is a dead end.

Why are you conflating women being treated as equal human beings with the end of civilisation?

Jorge
Jorge
December 21, 2021 11:39 am

This gets it right.

The Responsa ad dubia reveal the profound crisis of faith that the Church is undergoing. The good of the faithful is cast aside based on the specious claim that the immemorial form of worship of the Latin Church is being misused by unnamed people to promote unnamed ideologies, i.e., “creating division.” The truth is exactly the opposite: it’s the Holy See that is sowing the seeds of division by stigmatizing and penalizing faithful Catholics who find that their closeness to God is fostered by availing themselves of the form of worship that produced innumerable saints in the history of the Church.

The Holy See needs to hear that message loud and clear from those who have been grievously offended by the unjust provisions of TC and now the Responsa ad dubia.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
December 21, 2021 11:40 am

Hopefully this is a crack in the dam wall of health fascism, leading to a torrent of correct information:

Nick Coatsworth says worst Covid Omicron predictions are inaccurate
One of Australia’s former top Covid doctors says the emerging data on the Omicron variant is encouraging and believes the worst modelling will not be true.
(Daily Telegraph)

Roger
Roger
December 21, 2021 11:42 am

Nick Coatsworth says worst Covid Omicron predictions are inaccurate… the worst modelling will not be true.

I don’t think Nick is going out on a limb with that!

calli
calli
December 21, 2021 11:47 am

One of Australia’s former top Covid doctors

That sneaky insertion of “former” tells you all you need to know about the narrative.

How did he become a “former” top doctor? Have others supplanted him in knowledge about the disease or is it strictly an hierarchical term? They were hanging on his every word last year.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
December 21, 2021 11:47 am

Nick Coatsworth says worst Covid Omicron predictions are inaccurate… the worst modelling will not be true.

Nick will soon be scanning the supermarket employment ads.

rugbyskier
rugbyskier
December 21, 2021 11:49 am

miltonfsays:
December 21, 2021 at 10:30 am
Generals and majors seem so unhappy unless they’ve got a war.

I think you mean talk of war. An actual war the Generals and Majors get found out very quickly if they can’t deliver.

I think miltonf was making a sly reference to this 80s song which incidentally features a young Sir Richard Branson in the video clip.

Dot
Dot
December 21, 2021 11:50 am

Oh god.

When I was 19 I briefly dated a 52 year old hedge fund manager and felt desirable

https://medium.com/@LiaTripleL/no-you-arent-biologically-wired-to-fancy-18-year-olds-da08c06d9405

Too dumb to even finesse a divorce!

johanna
johanna
December 21, 2021 11:51 am

Matrix, thanks for the Holst/Sabbath connection.

Tony Iommi is one of the most under-rated guitarists ever, IMHO. Saw them live with Ted Nugent as support – what a blast.

Although, the then pudgy Ozzie in lemon coloured tights was a bit of a stretch, IYKWIM. 🙂

Pogria
Pogria
December 21, 2021 11:53 am

Arky, Matrix and Rabz, thank you very much for your help.
No, it isn’t any of the ones you linked. I forgot to add it also has a choir. It has been used in a lot of movies when there is a great battle, or something huge is happening. The choir is a big part of it. It builds to a huge crashing crescendo after it has built upon itself in waves of intensity. I don’t know a lot of musical descriptors, so that is the best I can use. It is the sort of piece you play as loudly as possible in your house and sing and conduct along wildly.

Although it has been used a lot, I still love it. Thank God it isn’t the piece you linked Rabz. I couldn’t bear the thought of this piece I love being the favourite of that old poof.

If only I could hum it for you.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
December 21, 2021 11:54 am

local oafsays:
December 21, 2021 at 11:32 am

Andrews will keep his ICU wards full of people right up to the federal election. Even if they’re in no danger. Always be plenty of cases, terrify a few of them into believing they’re gonna die and stick them in front of the cameras.

After the election with albo in charge, empty the wards and dial down the panic.

Let albo take the credit for getting the country back to “normal”.

I think Maximum Leader will have his eyes firmly fixed on the State election in November.
I suspect there’ll be some absolutely remarkable improvements in Covid numbers around September/October.

Helen Davidson (nmrn)
Helen Davidson (nmrn)
December 21, 2021 11:55 am

Let albo take the credit for getting the country back to “normal”.

Given that there’s bugger all difference between the Coalition and Labor these days, that might be enough to tempt me to vote for them, or at least preference them higher. Problem is, he is just as likely to double down on the covid-mania.

duncanm
duncanm
December 21, 2021 11:55 am

Dr Nick is one of the few public voices I actually like..

Dr Coastworth hit back in a lengthy reply, claiming by the AMA has ‘rarely been positive or hopeful’ throughout the pandemic.

Roger
Roger
December 21, 2021 11:57 am

Nick will soon be scanning the supermarket employment ads.

As I reported here a few weeks ago, Coatsworth has been the subject of professional complaints to his employer the ANU and the RACP on the basis of his public dissent from the covid narrative. I believe the latter dissmised the complaints and afaik he still has his job.

Where it gets murky is the involvement of OzSage members – self-appointed advisers to governments on emergencies modelled after the controversial UK Sage group. The VC of ANU, Brian Schmidt, is a newly minted member of the group.

Pogria
Pogria
December 21, 2021 12:01 pm

I value my sperm too highly to give it to someone who would ask for it.


HB. BEAR.

Hey Bear, that reminds me of my favourite Groucho Marx quote. “I wouldn’t join a club that would have me as a member”.

Roger
Roger
December 21, 2021 12:02 pm

Not that I’m suggesting any wrongdoing on Prof. Schmidt’s part.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 21, 2021 12:02 pm

I am not sure if Coatesworth is still employed by Federal Elf.
One thing is for sure.
He has been a voice of reason over the last couple of months.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 21, 2021 12:05 pm

Boosters anybody?

Maybe ScoMo reads the science news.

Oxford-AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine protection wanes after three months, study suggests (MedXpress, 20 Dec)

Which means all those people who got monstered into taking the AZ vaccine are now wide open again. Hence the current panicked boosterism.

Zipster
Zipster
December 21, 2021 12:08 pm

Why are you conflating women being treated as equal human beings with the end of civilisation?

equal to what? treating women as they were men is communism. treating women like women is what historically works. This what women actually select males for.

Women’s primary role in life is to be a mother. The notion they need a career a the expense of motherhood is the death of any civilisation.

Dot
Dot
December 21, 2021 12:08 pm

Look Dover if marriage is transactional for person A, then person A shouldn’t get married…

The existence of a legal system makes marriage transactional. You can say heterosexual relationships are transactional or complimentary. At their best, they can mean the same thing.

It is shared by right-liberals and Leftists because you have share a similar intellectual inheritance that manifests itself as socially liberal

Not as an English speaker with English heritage. Liberalism began to emerge (John Locke) under the enlightened despotism of Catholic in all but name (deathbed conversion back) Charles II following the puritans. (You could go back to the Levellers or John Ball if you like being a pedant).

So where do “real conservatives” claim their inheritance from? The Puritans? The Tudors? Richard III? Edward IV?

Zipster
Zipster
December 21, 2021 12:11 pm

No, you arent biologically wired to fancy 18 year olds

she’s right my dna seems to prefer 25yos.

Dot
Dot
December 21, 2021 12:11 pm

Just ask yourself – how many fathers are bringing up kids from three different mothers?

A lot less than women.

That does not reflect poorly on men.

Consider how often women initiate divorce.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 21, 2021 12:12 pm

Email is racist.

Racial discrimination may affect whether people respond to email (Phys.org, 20 Dec)

Time to go back to smoke signals and morse code.

Dot
Dot
December 21, 2021 12:12 pm

she’s right my dna seems to prefer 25yos.

Fake and gay.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
December 21, 2021 12:13 pm

Just got a letter from ScoMo, Greggo and some other cocksucker urging me to get vaccinated.
It’s full of more shit than I’ve ever read before on a single page document.

Zipster
Zipster
December 21, 2021 12:14 pm

Not exactly; this was the dispute between Trotsky, who was an internationalist, and Lenin and later Stalin, who favoured ‘Socialism in One Country’ after the failure of the western European revolutions in the immediate post-WWI period..

actually Lenin was still an internationalist, it was Stalin who was a totalitarian fascist.

Roger
Roger
December 21, 2021 12:15 pm

OzSage’s advice for a Merry Christmas:

Vaccines & boosters! Including for children

Wear a mask at indoor venues at all times but best avoid them altogether by shopping online.

If you must have people over entertain outside and inquire of each person’s vax status beforehand.

Ostracise the unvaccinated from your life (yes, seriously).

Yada, yada, yada.

No wonder they’ve got it in for Nick Coatsworth.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 21, 2021 12:17 pm

Re DeSantis v Trump

Meaningless discussion.

PollTracker@PollTrackerUSA
2024 National Republican Primary Poll:

Trump 60%
DeSantis 11%
Pence 9%
Haley 3%
Cruz 3%
Rubio 2%
Christie 1%
Hawley 1%
R. Scott 1%
T. Scott 1%
Pompeo 1%
Stefanik 0%
Abbott 0%
Noem 0%
Sasse 0%
Cotton 0%

3:00 AM · Dec 21, 2021

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 21, 2021 12:18 pm

The Dangerous Rise Of Men Who Won’t Date “Woke” Women

I can see the authoress howling and snotting fit to shame a 2 y.o., with Milo and Laurence Fox gleefully high-fiving each other.

And Jordan Peterson in the background bemusedly scribbling down notes on the wokette’s observed behaviour, one eyebrow arched Spock-style

#Fascinating

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
December 21, 2021 12:18 pm

So where do “real conservatives” claim their inheritance from? The Puritans? The Tudors? Richard III? Edward IV?

Alfred the Great?

calli
calli
December 21, 2021 12:21 pm

The Proverbs 31 woman was a wife, mother and a hard worker, both at home and outside the home. She buys real estate with money she has earned, and no one in her household goes without.

She’s probably the best role model for womanhood you can get. She definitely isn’t confined to some sort of domestic seraglio, lolling around on cushions eating sweetmeats. And it’s clear that her husband does his bit and loves and respects her – no abandoning a precious ruby like that.

Zipster
Zipster
December 21, 2021 12:23 pm

Consider how often women initiate divorce.

the system financially incentives hypergamy

calli
calli
December 21, 2021 12:23 pm

Ahahaha! Latest in coof hysteria. My Apple newsfeed just dropped down:

Will Christmas be abandoned? Find out here.

Morons.

Dot
Dot
December 21, 2021 12:26 pm

Further to answer Johanna, such a situation cannot be truly answered without considering the phenomenon of hybristophilia.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 21, 2021 12:27 pm

Welp Calli,

If Ollie Cromwell and his Roundheads and Puritans couldn’t stop Christmas back in the day, I don’t see what hope the Bugmen and the latest crop of Puritans have of achieving it now…

Zipster
Zipster
December 21, 2021 12:27 pm

The Proverbs 31 woman was a wife, mother and a hard worker, both at home and outside the home.

the #1 problem in the west is below replacement birth rates

Zipster
Zipster
December 21, 2021 12:29 pm

Further to answer Johanna, such a situation cannot be truly answered without considering the phenomenon of hybristophilia.

had to look that work up. each woman has her own template of what values she considers in an alpha

Zipster
Zipster
December 21, 2021 12:29 pm

^work^word

local oaf
December 21, 2021 12:30 pm

Pogria says:
December 21, 2021 at 11:53 am

If only I could hum it for you.

Has this been suggested yet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXFSK0ogeg4

Zipster
Zipster
December 21, 2021 12:31 pm

Re DeSantis v Trump

desantis ’28

Winston Smith
December 21, 2021 12:31 pm

Cassie:

I’ve been thinking about this for the last few days and I’m now going to commit heresy here and say that I have come to the conclusion that I don’t want Orange Man Bad to run in 2024. I want Ron DeSantis to run and win.

I think Trump back in the White House would be the best thing for the US.
Why?
Because the left don’t want him there. They will chuck tantrum after tantrum, and The Donald will be ruthless at purging them.
He’s been tested in the fire and he’s now after revenge.
De Santis can wait a bit.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 21, 2021 12:34 pm

the #1 problem in the west is below replacement birth rates

Because of coal of course.

Fall in fertility rates may be linked to fossil fuels (MedXpress, 20 Dec)

This may be the most laughable science article this year. The green left never stops, it’s scary and sort of hilarious too.

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
December 21, 2021 12:35 pm

SloMo will cave to the premiers just like he always has.

Bullshit – Scummo is the one driving this sell-out of Australia and its people.

calli
calli
December 21, 2021 12:36 pm

Oaf! Perfect!

duncanm
duncanm
December 21, 2021 12:39 pm

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
December 21, 2021 at 12:12 pm
Email is racist.

Racial discrimination may affect whether people respond to email (Phys.org, 20 Dec)

Time to go back to smoke signals

cultural appropriation!

Dot
Dot
December 21, 2021 12:40 pm

Hi, how are ya, Duncan?

johanna
johanna
December 21, 2021 12:40 pm

Just scanning the FTV channels and I note that taxpayer funded SBS is now showing NBC News. Along with Clinton employee Stephan – lotsa opoulapolisis.

We are paying for Dimmocrat propaganda. Has anyone raised this in Estimates?

calli
calli
December 21, 2021 12:42 pm

Chuckle. I post a beer commercial and the next to comment is duncan!

Freshen ya glass guv’?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 21, 2021 12:43 pm

Oaf! Perfect!

The ad is better that the beer, which isn’t so much purchased as hired for a while.

Roger
Roger
December 21, 2021 12:48 pm

OzSage’s chief economic adviser is a fellow of the Chinese think tank the Luohan Academy.

I’m not one for conspiracy theories but there’s no shortage of material to work with out there.

JC
JC
December 21, 2021 12:52 pm

Arky says:
December 21, 2021 at 8:51 am
You got to remember: the insane howling gets the worst when you are effective and over the target.
..
Something also to remember when reading the open thread.

Oh God.

Aaron
Aaron
December 21, 2021 1:00 pm

Come in AZ, your three months is up.

October is so long ago.

Dot
Dot
December 21, 2021 1:00 pm

13th century?

The evangelicals unleashed modern left “liberalism” on the west (“progressivism”).

In 19th century America.

Dot
Dot
December 21, 2021 1:01 pm

Locke is terrible at the level of philosophy

No he’s not. This is just gaslighting like the left did to Ayn Rand.

Bruce in WA
December 21, 2021 1:03 pm

Insanity.

This, verbatim (including spelling errors), was received this morning.

Good Morning,

The Tasmanian Government has just announced it will be madating mask wearing in all indoor settings from midnight tomorrow night (Monday 20th December).

So from Tuesday 21st December Mask wearing will be madatory when you arrive at our cruise terminal to pick up your boarding passes. Wearing of masks will also be madatory for your cruise on our vessel Spirit of the Wild.

We look forward to welcoming you on your Gordon River Cruise.

Masks. On a boat. On a river. In the middle of nowhere.

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
December 21, 2021 1:04 pm

So where do “real conservatives” claim their inheritance from? The Puritans? The Tudors? Richard III? Edward IV?

Jesus Christ

Winston Smith
December 21, 2021 1:06 pm

Frank:

There is a certain type of woman who loads the bullets for her menfolk to fire.

It’s not just women who employ this tactic – there are certain males who do it as well.
A tactic that comes from perceived weakness or refusal to take responsibility for their own actions.

Pogria
Pogria
December 21, 2021 1:08 pm

Oaf, you are a legend!
I was always told that piece was called The Black Sabbath. I have written the real name down so I don’t forget. I am going to purchase a copy and rage to it when I finally move into my new place. Thank you, mwah, mwah, mwah.

Calli, A huge thank you to you also. I had completely forgotten that ad. It is one of the best. As I said earlier though, it doesn’t matter where that music is used, it is just too huge and awesome to be made small. On another note, I used to gallop around on a huge draughty just like that!

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
December 21, 2021 1:08 pm

Come in AZ, your three months is up.

Meanwhile on Lake Mandate….
‘Come in ZA your 3 months is up! ‘
‘But we don’t have a ZA!?’
….
‘AZ are you in trouble?’

Dot
Dot
December 21, 2021 1:09 pm

Jesus actually said very little.

Pogria
Pogria
December 21, 2021 1:10 pm

Frank:

“There is a certain type of woman who loads the bullets for her menfolk to fire.”

It’s not just women who employ this tactic – there are certain males who do it as well.
A tactic that comes from perceived weakness or refusal to take responsibility for their own actions.

Winston, I can attest to this, which is why I am moving in the New Year.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 21, 2021 1:11 pm

The evangelicals unleashed modern left “liberalism” on the west (“progressivism”).

Dot – the Left steals terms and uses them as skin suits. So “evangelical” is like “liberal” and “green”, which are used by lefties in ways pretty much diametrically opposed to their original meaning. Indeed “progressive” is another such example.

Roger
Roger
December 21, 2021 1:11 pm

The evangelicals unleashed modern left “liberalism” on the west (“progressivism”).

The likes of Walter Rauschenbusch – the chief theorist of the social gospel – were theological liberals, not evangelicals.

Progressivism, like most wide movements, drew on many different streams in American life but conservative Protestants were not at its forefront as they tended to be “sectarian” rather than “ecumenical” in their outlook.

Roger
Roger
December 21, 2021 1:12 pm

And “quietists” rather than “activists” politically.

Zipster
Zipster
December 21, 2021 1:20 pm

OzSage’s chief economic adviser is a fellow of the Chinese think tank the Luohan Academy.

all roads lead to china

Dot
Dot
December 21, 2021 1:21 pm

Mask wearing will be madatory

It usually was, Ava Gardner was a picky woman.

Dot
Dot
December 21, 2021 1:22 pm

Turing test.

Are Baptist’s usually considered or regard themselves as evangelicals?

Dot
Dot
December 21, 2021 1:23 pm

Dot – the Left steals terms and uses them as skin suits.

!??

Do you think I used the scare quotes by accident?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 21, 2021 1:25 pm

Arky says:
December 21, 2021 at 8:51 am
You got to remember: the insane howling gets the worst when you are effective and over the target.

That reminds me.
Where is St Ruth.
Not another vaccine casualty I hope.

local oaf
December 21, 2021 1:30 pm

Pogria says:
December 21, 2021 at 1:08 pm

Oaf, you are a legend!

Calli, A huge thank you to you also. I had completely forgotten that ad.

Mr Orff was a talented man!

His two brothers Nick and Buzz, were more famous for annoying everyone they met.

johanna
johanna
December 21, 2021 1:30 pm

Pogria at 5.06pm:

Great clip, weird how remaining Floyd members are woke or silent.

I don’t think that the opinions of entertainers are worth any more than anyone else’s. But, entertainers like the Floyd thought about and included social issue in their work.

They are nevertheless one of the greatest bands in living memory. Set the controls

But, never forget the much less fashionable but very prescient Hawkwind – Spirit of the Age.

Spirit of the Age is about a love affair in the world of clones. Also, it rocks.

Funnily enough, I bought the Hawkwind album while I was sojourning in a motel in Sydney waiting for my rental to become vacant. Loved it then and love it now.

Hawkwind were a bunch of druggies, but also bright and perceptive. I suppose that some people would think that it was impossible, but there you go.

Frank
Frank
December 21, 2021 1:30 pm

she’s right my dna seems to prefer 25yos.

The Institute for Advanced Studies has proven that the age bracket defining peak female attractiveness is from 19 to 19 and 1/2. It is a slow glide into the grave on bingo wings from there.

I’ll see myself out now.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 21, 2021 1:35 pm

That reminds me.
Where is St Ruth.
Not another vaccine casualty I hope

One-upping himself at Bird’s expense over at the Furniture Store.

Calling all Cats who see Bird’s repetitive insanity for what it is and wanting to get rid of him before it wrecks all conversarion and drives folks away, as being censorious leftists.

And proclaiming how free and open and exposing-of-cranks-and-fools he is by letting Bird expose himself.

This is fine- Struth is not exerting his messiah-complex and frustrated antagonism on us in the meantime…

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 21, 2021 1:37 pm

The Institute for Advanced Studies has proven that the age bracket defining peak female attractiveness is from 19 to 19 and 1/2.

That’s got to be bullshit- Most 19 y.o. females are absolute and utter children. Damned if I am settling for the remainder of my natural life with someone I may well struggle to relate to because life is yet to temper them in the way it has tempered me…

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 21, 2021 1:38 pm

Are Baptist’s usually considered or regard themselves as evangelicals?

Depends on the Church…

Tom
Tom
December 21, 2021 1:40 pm

The best writing in American journalism: Tucker Carlson Tonight — Joe Biden’s political support is collapsing.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 21, 2021 1:45 pm

One-upping himself at Bird’s expense over at the Furniture Store.

Actually, it’s even funnier than that- Struth is now haranguing Bird over his irrational failure to move past the mere alleged race of the supposed oligarchy trying to exterminate us all, and challenging him to name names.

“You have the woke, and I see your Conspiracy is as big as mine. Now let’s see how well you handle it…”

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

H B Bearsays: December 21, 2021 at 10:15 am

Speaking of getting cancelled I got nonpersonned by Big Tech overnight. Must have reported for something or other and a nerd in the cube farm hit DEL on me. Am thinking whether I bother to rejoin or not. Unfortunately like most of these platforms they have become a defacto communication channel for people and businesses.

This is why the world needs Trump to be re-elected, so he can go postal on Big Tech, flattening them so low they need to look upward to see a cockroach’s belly.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 21, 2021 2:01 pm

Are Baptist’s usually considered or regard themselves as evangelicals?

The distance between the two ends of the Baptist spectrum is rather further than the diameter of the Universe. Not unlike Anglicans, thinking of Rod Bower’s mob just down the road in Gosford. He might not be on quite the same wavelength as Peter Jensen.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 21, 2021 2:02 pm

Moar glorious inversion of Cultural Classics!

This time, one that made Big Lucy famous…

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pRDcbPAe2g4

Dot
Dot
December 21, 2021 2:03 pm

Ah, no true Scotsman strikes again.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
December 21, 2021 2:04 pm

On third jabs.

Over the past few months Government messaging has changed to recognise what’s happening in the real world.

As it’s become clear that mass vaccination isn’t going to deliver herd immunity, or do much to prevent infection in the individual vaccinated, official messaging had moved from ‘get jabbed for Australia’ to vaccines are very effective at stopping people from becoming very sick if they catch COVID-19”.

At the moment the third jab is being presented as a one-off top-up, a protection against Omicron – but not as a booster replenishing waning protection.

The politics of managing the change to annual/6m/3m jabs for everyone for evermore will be challenging.
To say the least.

Particularly for retail politicians.

My P50 pick is continuous mass vaccination will be quietly abandoned in 2022 – and victory will be declared, on the basis that Wise and Caring Government has bought time to develop the means to protect the elderly and vulnerable and unload the health system.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 21, 2021 2:09 pm
Pogria
Pogria
December 21, 2021 2:09 pm

Rex,
that reminded me of an average weeknight at the Green Valley Hotel in the seventies.
What a trip!

rosie
rosie
December 21, 2021 2:12 pm

Peter McCallum has signs up around the place saying they are trialling a nasal spray to prevent/treat covid in cancer patients.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

johannasays: December 21, 2021 at 10:53 am

The Centre also said there was a higher than usual migration of people to South Australia and Western Australia that correlated with the end of Melbourne’s second lockdown.

People are moving to WA? How? Secret submarine landings or black helicopters putting down in the Kimberley?

An unintended consequence of the Berlin .. McGowan Wall. Fifo people stuck in the state, or moving into it with a caravan, to keep their Fifo job.

Pogria
Pogria
December 21, 2021 2:13 pm

Rex,
the first half of that ad reminds me of a scene from the Woody Allen movie “Everything you wanted to know about Sex, but were afraid to ask”.

Pick the scene. 😉

rosie
rosie
December 21, 2021 2:14 pm
Fat Tony
Fat Tony
December 21, 2021 2:16 pm

Dot says:
December 21, 2021 at 1:09 pm
Jesus actually said very little.

Just like you Dot??

Pogria
Pogria
December 21, 2021 2:16 pm

Great clip, weird how remaining Floyd members are woke or silent.

Johanna, Roger Waters is the greatest, steaming pile of dog shit to ever have been a muso.

What a waste.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 21, 2021 2:17 pm

Dot – John Knox was a true Scotsman, the current bunch in charge of the place are pagan greens.

The measure is whether they believe that Jesus Christ is their boss (ie 1 Cor 12:3). If they do they are Christians. If they do not they aren’t. Call yourself a Baptist or Anglican (or, gulp dare I say it, Catholic) by all means, but unless you believe Jesus you may as well give it away.

duncanm
duncanm
December 21, 2021 2:22 pm

Dotsays:
December 21, 2021 at 12:40 pm
Hi, how are ya, Duncan?

Good-n-you?

Cassie of Sydney
December 21, 2021 2:22 pm

“Roger Waters is the greatest, steaming pile of dog shit to ever have been a muso.”

Beautifully said Pogria.

MatrixTransform
December 21, 2021 2:23 pm

If only I could hum it for you

Beethoven’s Ninth ?

local oaf
December 21, 2021 2:26 pm

Johanna, Roger Waters is the greatest, steaming pile of dog shit to ever have been a muso.

Amen!

Barrett was the genius, Gilmour, Wright and Mason were great too

Old bloke
Old bloke
December 21, 2021 2:27 pm

Perth anti-mandate rally Saturday 18th. Not much respect for the corporate media over here.

JC
JC
December 21, 2021 2:31 pm

Tom says:
December 21, 2021 at 1:40 pm

The best writing in American journalism: Tucker Carlson Tonight — Joe Biden’s political support is collapsing.

Tom, that’s good news in the sense that the vast bulk of decent Americans have figured out President Brandon and the giggling idiot are incompetent imbeciles.

The other side has to overcome strategic cheating perpetrated by the demonrats. Don’t forget, Mark Fuckerberg spent $250 million of his own money to assist the fraud. He had ballot boxes placed around suburban neighborhoods that weren’t supervised to make easier to cheat. Nothing prevented such blatant fraud.

vr
vr
December 21, 2021 2:32 pm

I had not heard of Henry Ossawa Tanner before. I like his work.

MatrixTransform
December 21, 2021 2:35 pm

Jesus actually said very little

He was married wasn’t he?

Winston Smith
December 21, 2021 2:37 pm

Johanna:
A paper from the Centre for Population – “The lifetime fiscal impact of the Australian permanent migration program”.
Authored by Peter Varelas. et al

the 2018?19 permanent migrant cohort is fiscally positive at both the Commonwealth, and State and Territory levels

Peter used to be a car salesman.

Cassie of Sydney
December 21, 2021 2:41 pm

Funny story but true re. Judaism and divorce. A divorce in Judaism is called a “Gett”. Judaism permits divorce but the man has to “agree to it”. A woman whose husband refuses to grant the divorce will be permanently stuck in limbo land and such a woman is called an “agunot”….or “chained woman”. There are many such agunot in Israel…..mainly women from Mizrachi or Sephardi backgrounds, that is they originally hailed from North Africa, central Asia and the Middle East….although I know of one here in Sydney. In Israel men who refuse to grant their wives a divorce are jailed by the Rabbinate however some men actually prefer going to jail than granting their wives happiness and freedom.

Anyway, the last Jew in Kabul, who left in September of this year and who had to be dragged out of Kabul…..was a such a man. His family were Afghani Jews….there was a sizeable community in Kabul once…and he and his wife and children made aliyah after the Soviets invaded back in the early 1980s. In Israel his marriage fell apart and he refused to grant his wife a divorce. For his misogyny and recalcitrance he was sent to jail in Israel and then he left Israel back in the 1990s and returned to Afghanistan where he lived in the old Synagogue. He’s on record saying that he preferred living under the Taliban to granting his wife a divorce. Now that’s some misogyny!

twostix
twostix
December 21, 2021 2:43 pm

Oh man.

Weird neutred Chihuaua Deputy Premier tweets some standard vaccine propoganda.

This is the Delta wave in NSW over the past 6 months.
Number of cases of fully vaccinated people on the left and those who weren’t fully vaccinated on the right.
Vaccines work.
It’s the reason we can carefully open up and reunite families for Christmas.

So here’s me about to read the comments expecting him to be assaulted by pro-choice, unvaccinated type people.

And he’s getting a hammering….by Covid Karens:

Dec 20
Replying to @StevenJMiles and @southwin28
No and to tell ppl that without info that need to be booster 4 omicron 4 any kind of protection and even then need extra precautions as efficacy only 70% is criminal negligence

@TomBramble1960
Dec 20
Replying to @StevenJMiles
That was then. This is now. Double vaxxed but no protection against hospitalisation with Omicron until I can get my booster next month. Millions more like me. And then there’s the young kids with nothing! All that hard work we all did for two years, just thrown away ?

MFW
@MFWitches
Dec 20
Replying to @StevenJMiles
You kept your state safe for a long time but this is madness. You’re comparing apples with oranges. Why?

Nom de plume with a crap Prime Minister
@ecobard
Dec 20
Replying to @StevenJMiles
Did you miss the memo about #omicron and #VaccineEfficacy?

Replying to @StevenJMiles
Very nervous about my vaccination status with Omicron. Six weeks before I can get a booster. Qld unprotected even with double Vax. This changes everything.

Isambard Prince
@realDamienWood
Dec 20
Replying to @StevenJMiles
Thats great if we were still dealing with Delta, but we’re not. The #Domicron variant, I mean the Omicron variant is a real problem and we are sleepwalking into a disaster.

Never mind reuniting at Christmas, I am bunkering down because there is a storm coming!

And on, and on, and on.

They may be thinking they’ve create a covid karen monster and it’s turning on them just as they decide they want to pivot.

Delicious!

Zipster
Zipster
December 21, 2021 2:52 pm
jupes
jupes
December 21, 2021 2:52 pm

My question to the deputy premier would be to ask him to explain the drop in the unvaccinated graph.

Zipster
Zipster
December 21, 2021 2:54 pm

He’s on record saying that he preferred living under the Taliban to granting his wife a divorce. Now that’s some misogyny!

this word misogyny, I don’t think it means what you think it means

twostix
twostix
December 21, 2021 2:56 pm

My question to the deputy premier would be to ask him to explain the drop in the unvaccinated graph.

He’s got a habit of posting retarded facebook-tier images on his feed and passing it off as official.

Check out the post-it note.

Pogria
Pogria
December 21, 2021 3:03 pm

bwah ha ha ha!

Pirate Pete has received his latest reaming.

Didn’t see THAT coming!

Speedbox
December 21, 2021 3:05 pm

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closuresays:
December 21, 2021 at 2:13 pm

Salvatore – I asked you a few months ago about your staffing issues. Has anything changed? Can you get staff these days?

Zipster
Zipster
December 21, 2021 3:06 pm
Barry
Barry
December 21, 2021 3:10 pm

Bruce of Newcastle says:
December 21, 2021 at 12:05 pm

Boosters anybody?

Maybe ScoMo reads the science news.

Oxford-AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine protection wanes after three months, study suggests (MedXpress, 20 Dec)

Which means all those people who got monstered into taking the AZ vaccine are now wide open again. Hence the current panicked boosterism.

Sadly, 8 perfectly healthy people who didn’t even need to get AZ, died.
They died for a potential 3 months protection.
That’s very sad for their families.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 21, 2021 3:13 pm

Inquiry into Religious Discrimination Bill hears shocking story of woman fired for wearing a hijab

Helena Burke
Federal politics reporter
NCA NewsWire
14 minutes ago December 21, 2021

A young Muslim woman was fired from her job at a pharmacy in Sydney’s east after refusing to remove her traditional headdress while she was at work, a parliamentary inquiry heard today.

Speaking on behalf of the Australian National Imams Council, Bilal Rauf told the inquiry the young pharmacist was instructed not to wear her hijab at work because it would offend the residents of an eastern Sydney suburb where the pharmacy was located.

“A female who was a pharmacist, during the course of her employment, decided to wear the hijab,” Mr Rauf said.

“This was at a place in the eastern suburbs and she was told in very clear terms: ‘look, around here, people don’t like this thing, so if you want to wear the hijab that’s a matter for you, but I won’t be able to keep you on here’.”

Mr Rauf said the woman refused to stop wearing her hijab at work and was subsequently forced by the pharmacy boss to resign from her position.

“She ended up losing her employment because she had no choice or ability to do anything about that,” he said.

The shocking story comes amid hot debate in Australia about the need for a Religious Discrimination Bill.

While some argue that the bill will simply offer protection from discriminatory acts such as those suffered by the Muslim pharmacist, others hold grave concerns that the bill will provide a loophole for people and organisations of faith to discriminate against LGBTQ+ people.

Mr Rauf said the National Imams Council – Australia’s largest Muslim advocacy organisation – supported the proposed bill.

“So many other attributes relating to a person‘s identity are protected, acknowledged and recognised,” he said.

“With Australian Muslims, so often they are identifiable by what many women, for instance, choose to wear their hijab, men grow the beard, or they attend congregational prayers.

“It’s an extraordinary position that that part of their identity, not only is not protected, but not acknowledged at law.”

Australian Federation of Islamic Councils head Keysar Trad told the inquiry that discrimination and abuse of Muslim people was rife in Australia, citing 349 incidents of reported Islamophobia over the past 24 months.

“Cases are reported regularly of Muslim women and Muslim youths getting harassed or beaten,” Mr Trad said.

“There was one case of a (Muslim) lady who was beaten up in a cafe in Parramatta a couple of years ago.”

Mr Trad raised an incident where an unnamed “shock jock” Australian journalist referred to Islamic people as “vermin”, but faced no consequences due to the lack of legal protection against religious slander.

“We found after a very long process appeals going all the way to the Court of Appeal and going back and forth between the tribunal and the courts, that Muslims don’t have protection,” he said.

areff
areff
December 21, 2021 3:16 pm

Hawkwind were a bunch of druggies, but also bright and perceptive. I suppose that some people would think that it was impossible, but there you go.

Baudelaire, Coleridge, Cheever, Thomas, Behan, Dottie Parker, Burrows, Dickens (reportedly) …. dopers or piss pots all and often both

twostix
twostix
December 21, 2021 3:19 pm

As it’s become clear that mass vaccination isn’t going to deliver herd immunity, or do much to prevent infection in the individual vaccinated, official messaging had moved from ‘get jabbed for Australia’ to “vaccines are very effective at stopping people from becoming very sick if they catch COVID-19”.

At the moment the third jab is being presented as a one-off top-up, a protection against Omicron – but not as a booster replenishing waning protection.

These are a preventative treatment regime and not a vaccine. They’ve known that all along. Like drug dealers they’ve deliberately lured everyone into taking the first hit and now are slowly letting people know they’re addicted.

mRNA spruikers originally sold mRNA as a biotech ‘platform’ along the lines of turning your immune system into an analog of an operating system and the mRNA drugs being like software updates that could be loaded into immune systems at any time.

I bet they’ve sold this as the new 21st century equivalent of antibiotics to the ruling class and said “imagine if you were in on that at the ground floor!”.

Winston Smith
December 21, 2021 3:21 pm

Wodger:

Ostracise the unvaccinated from your life (yes, seriously).

Just went shopping – didn’t need anything really, but thought I’d wave the flag a bit.
Quite a few second takes at the yellow star, a few good smiles and eye contact. A couple of dirty looks because I wan’t wearing a mask.
Youngster at the checkout asks if I had a mask, “No.”
She passes me one.
“Thanks!” Winston folds up mask and puts it into his pocket.
Pays cash, gets another dirty look.
Walks out with bread rolls, whistling a tune.
Confrontational?
Not half as confrontational as the concentration camps the government is building.

calli
calli
December 21, 2021 3:25 pm

This is what you get from mass formation. The anxiety is off the charts. And the monster you created will only destroy you.

I’m seeing that here, too. So I’m making it my business to tell people not to be afraid of the new mutation…at the shops, anywhere. A kindly word and a confident smile does make a difference. Better than carrying on like a lunatic and berating people over this and that.

Fearlessness is as contagious as fear. Try it. You’ll like it.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Salvatore – I asked you a few months ago about your staffing issues. Has anything changed? Can you get staff these days?

No.
It is not difficult to get staff, it is impossible.
This has been the case all year, & similar with everybody I talk to, they plain cannot recruit staff.
Most seem to be running with about 30% of their usual staffing numbers.

This calendar year to date, most places in my town have reduced their trading by Forty to Fifty hours per week.
One pub is open only Four days each week.

I’ve got about half operations closed & mothballed, purely due to lack of staff.

calli
calli
December 21, 2021 3:28 pm

Aha! Winston tried it! No need to be mean…and that mask will come in handy if you’re making your own potting mix!

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

At the Post Office this afternoon, people still turning up without a dog muzzle to wear & going away.
Bloke exiting handed his mask to someone who didn’t have one, they donned it & went shopping, came out & gave it to his wife & then in turn an in-law, so they could all go in one by one & have a bit of a shop.

C.L.
C.L.
December 21, 2021 3:35 pm

I was in a shop yesterday sans mask and about four blokes came in for various things while I was there. None of them were masked. There was nothing the staff could do unless they wanted to forego about a hundred bucks. Great switcheroo: they had to comply.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

There was nothing the staff could do unless they wanted to forego about a hundred bucks. Great switcheroo: they had to comply.

It’s all fun until a cop turns up & starts writing out $1,000+ fines.

I hope the Premiers today bully Slomo into declaring the definition of fully vaxxed = 3 injections.
Then some pedantic type points out that the Qld Vaccine Mandate means only the triple-injected can enter pubs, restaurants, coffee shops, govt buildings.

It’ll be mayhem for about half an hour, then the compliance system will be overwhelmed, and the population will totally ignore the rules & get on with life.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
December 21, 2021 3:43 pm

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure says:
December 21, 2021 at 3:32 pm

Bloke exiting handed his mask to someone who didn’t have one, they donned it & went shopping, came out & gave it to his wife & then in turn an in-law, so they could all go in one by one & have a bit of a shop.

Ha! Just like the parking tickets getting passed on at Dandenong Market!

twostix
twostix
December 21, 2021 3:44 pm

“You know how Monsanto patented genes in seeds? Imagine doing the same to people’s immune systems…”

Ruling Class: ?

Zipster
Zipster
December 21, 2021 3:47 pm
Zipster
Zipster
December 21, 2021 3:53 pm

‘Going to get worse before it gets better’: industry welcomes urea deal but fears it won’t stop imminent AdBlue shortage
Trucking representatives say AdBlue taskforce still unsure of stocks in Australia as Coalition reaches agreement with Incitec Pivot to produce refined urea locally
Australian trucking representatives say a meeting this week between the industry and the federal government over a looming shortage of AdBlue revealed the government does not know how much of the diesel exhaust fluid remains in the country.

It came as the minister for industry, energy and emissions reduction, Angus Taylor, announced a deal with fertiliser manufacturer Incitec Pivot to secure local production of refined urea for the supply of AdBlue. Industry experts welcomed the agreement, but feared it had come too late to prevent disruption caused by supply problems, especially in regional and rural areas.

Under the new agreement, Incitec Pivot will “rapidly design, trial and, on completion of successful tests, scale up manufacturing of significant quantities of Technical Grade Granular Urea (TGU), a critical component of AdBlue”.

It comes on top of Australia’s acceptance of Indonesia’s offer to provide 5,000 tonnes of refined urea in January, enough to make a month’s worth of AdBlue.

twostix
twostix
December 21, 2021 3:54 pm

They’re letting it all hang out now, from QLD Health:

Many people who have had COVID-19, and recovered, will be able to have a PCR test and get a negative result, and apply for a border pass in the usual way.

Sometimes though, if you have recovered from COVID-19, you may continue to test positive for some months.

Sometimes though, if you have recovered from COVID-19, you may continue to test positive for some months.

Oh really! Well, that little bit of information might have been nice when they were imprisoning us over “cases”.

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 21, 2021 3:55 pm

Not at all. We don’t treat, and have no need of treating, the legal relationship between parent and child as transactional, and the attempt to do so often leads to absurd judgements.

Dover, not treating offspring as goods is a relatively new phenomenon.
Most of the Muslim world still does.
So if you’re saying “we” the west, you’re mostly right.

JC
JC
December 21, 2021 3:57 pm

dover0beach says:
December 21, 2021 at 3:17 pm

Oxford-AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine protection wanes after three months, study suggests (MedXpress, 20 Dec)

We were telling you this back in Oct. It was already being discussed elsewhere a month or two earlier than that.

What wanes after 3 months? Is it the estimated potential of outright contraction? Avoiding getting very ill?

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 21, 2021 3:58 pm

The decrepit Dianne Feinstein is concerned about omicron, she’s co signed a letter today saying on the “fully vaccinated” should be allowed on domestic flights.
And masks to be worn in doors.
But not so concerned to be photographed today in an airport without a mask.

Gab
Gab
December 21, 2021 4:01 pm

Avoiding getting very ill?

Would be interesting to read the research and studies done that prove being jabbed prevents one from getting really ill when one gets covid after being jabbed.

Dot
Dot
December 21, 2021 4:02 pm

That is simply a product of what was unleashed in the 13th C.

I would like to know more.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 21, 2021 4:03 pm

What wanes after 3 months? Is it the estimated potential of outright contraction? Avoiding getting very ill?

Serum antibody count, I’d wager.

You were no more and no less likely to catch the Nosferaflu when the antibody levels were at their peak, a few weeks after injection. You just were less likely to feel symptoms.

Allegedly.

In practice, it’s just more panic fuel and thinly-disguised nudging to CONSUME MOAR PRODUCT, PROLES!

If you imagine the current carry-on as an inverse extension of the usual paid Access Media hype-mongery most tech and entertainment companies engage in to advertise their wares, the entire shebang actually makes perfect sense…

Gab
Gab
December 21, 2021 4:04 pm

Anthony Keeshan, [21/12/2021 3:50 PM]
[Forwarded from National Education United]
IMPORTANT! Perhaps one of the most crucial petitions you’ll ever sign. We need to get to 100k signatures for it to be tabled in parliament.

Before you comment that petitions are useless we still need to try and at least have it heard in parliament. Then we can see which psychopath politicians voted against it.

Remember to check your email once you sign it so you can verify your signature.

Petition EN3625 – Against the motion of vaccinating children aged 5-12 years

https://www.aph.gov.au/e-petitions/petition/EN3625/

Pogria
Pogria
December 21, 2021 4:06 pm

Here is an excerpt from Robert Kennedy’s book on the evil ghoul Fauci,
(Fauci’s) sordid past goes back to the AIDS crisis and his diabolical experiments on children which killed at least 85 children at least. The experiments were barbaric and illegal, but he did it anyway. He gained control of foster homes in 7 states and then turned the pharmaceutical industry loose on these children. The children were powerless with no legal representation and no guardian. They were tortured literally to death. Many of them did not even have HIV but were simply human guinea pigs. Those children who refused the drugs or were noncompliant were taken to Columbia hospital and had feeding tubes installed to administer the drugs. At least 85 died during the experiments. This atrocity wasn’t enough for him though, so he took the experiments to Africa where he killed many pregnant mothers.”
This is all laid out in Democrat Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.’s remarkable book, “The Real Anthony Fauci: Bill Gates, Big Pharma, and the Global War on Democracy and Public Health.”

I had read the complete article on this yesterday. Can’t remember where, so can’t link. But I believe the above is enough to know. This vile midget needs to be put down, violently.

an addendum, all of these children were buried in a pile in an unmarked hole in New York City. Someone recently found this place and published photos of it.

calli
calli
December 21, 2021 4:08 pm

Done. With bells on.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 21, 2021 4:09 pm

If you imagine the current carry-on as an inverse extension of the usual paid Access Media hype-mongery most tech and entertainment companies engage in to advertise their wares, the entire shebang actually makes perfect sense…

That is:

*Wind people up with emotional energy (fear of no solution);

*Tease its coming;

*Shill its perfection and suitability relentlessly;

*Smother any and all dissent, disagreement or honest reviews of the product in what is assumed to be the mainstream zeitgeist;

*Push the sequelae and ‘upgrades’ even harder than the original product;

*Sit back and let the memes your own customer base have now generated make your balance sheets fatter.

We’ve only had Hollywood, Apple, Samsung, Intel etc. doing it to us for the last 30-40 years…

calli
calli
December 21, 2021 4:10 pm

I wonder if Fauci will take action against Kennedy. Has anything been filed yet?

Zipster
Zipster
December 21, 2021 4:14 pm

Serum antibody count, I’d wager.

the standard IgG test only works up to six months, beyond that you need the IgT test. using the igG test its very easy to say a vaccine doesnt work after 6 months.

IgT not available in oz.

Dot
Dot
December 21, 2021 4:14 pm

That is simply a product of what was unleashed in the 13th

???

The Angevins and Plantagenets?

Delta A
Delta A
December 21, 2021 4:15 pm

Thanks, Gab. Done.

Zipster
Zipster
December 21, 2021 4:16 pm

Apple autocorrect does not know the word fascist

too close to home?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 21, 2021 4:16 pm

the standard IgG test only works up to six months, beyond that you need the IgT test. using the igG test its very easy to say a vaccine doesnt work after 6 months.

Yep.

Consume moar product. The Science!(TM) says so…

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 21, 2021 4:21 pm

Albert Bourla with Lex Fridman : Pfizer does not engage in aggressive marketing.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 21, 2021 4:23 pm

That reminds me.
Where is St Ruth.

Dodgy word salad.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
December 21, 2021 4:24 pm

What wanes after 3 months? Is it the estimated potential of outright contraction? Avoiding getting very ill?

The serum concentration of antibodies that act to prevent infection wanes – so your probability of contracting Rona on exposure increases.

However, protection against severe disease remains for longer. Apparently still going strong at 6 months, with mRNA.

  1. No-one knew.Except those who did.Thats quite a long list it seems. Plenty of water carriers, not least among the 4th…

  2. Here’s the video of the 9 shots. Looks like Trump got hit the first one https://georgewebb.substack.com/p/new-evidence-points-to-multiple-shooters FWIW

  3. That’d be convenient – a heroic death and self sacrifice! Kamala can do more in sorrow than anger word salads.

  4. It appears that a new vector of infection has been discovered for Covid. Apparently, even a leader who’s “recovering well”…

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