Open Thread – New Year 2022


Adoration of the Magi, Bartolomé Esteban Murillo, 1655

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Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
January 2, 2022 5:38 pm

OMG!
OMFG!!
Neilsen’s post at 1:33 p.m. now has 26 dickless upticks.

28 now.
My favourite Neilsen/Nilsson
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BFKDyVPkonc
Kind of apt.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 2, 2022 5:38 pm

Zepparella do a mean cover, Rabz.

But they got nothing on Heart’s rendition of Stairway to Heaven…

dopey
dopey
January 2, 2022 5:38 pm

Albo’s train will work. He’ll lubricate the track and there’ll be a happy ending no matter where you get off.

Rabz
January 2, 2022 5:38 pm

Labor pledges $500m in its first budget for fast rail, with Sydney to Newcastle the priority

FFS, no.

Oh grate, a certain personage’s guest post (on the ol’ Cat) on the irredeemable idiocy of light rail appears to have been memory holed. … 🙁

Entropy
Entropy
January 2, 2022 5:39 pm

Rockdoctor says:
January 2, 2022 at 2:37 pm
Heard first hand Albo is a nasty piece of work Dragnet. I once worked with a bloke who had a very diverse and interesting life before coming into mining, he was in Young Labor at the time Albo was back in the day. Exact words on Albo from this bloke: “He has allies not friends

Yes, I know a chap who used to work in his electorate doing charity work. Made the mistake of telling Albo he didn’t vote for him in some committee Albo as the local member was chairing. Went from a hail well met fellow to total freeze out. Never spoke to my acquaintance again. Let’s just say Albo is a hater.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
January 2, 2022 5:41 pm

Why are people so worried about upticks? I’ve even reported myself.

Think of the horror when you offer to flounce – and then receive a forrest of upticks.

Are they dickless ones, celebrating your departure?

Or fully dicked, and supporting you in your agony?

How to make important life choices?

Entropy
Entropy
January 2, 2022 5:41 pm

That said, I think Albo sticks by his mates. Witness his support for Craig Thompson.

JC
JC
January 2, 2022 5:41 pm

I’d be interested to see Carpe’s opinion too. Especially on attitudes, I reckon it will back up a gut feeling I have had for a few years now.

One may not need Carpe’s assessment. Apart from our two most efficient industry sectors (mining and agriculture) the economy is basically moribund. Thanks to sky high energy prices and a constipated labor market caused by undue regulation and sky high state directed wages, we’re basically fucked.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 2, 2022 5:41 pm

Apart from the range crossing the Via Recta actually makes sense

Yeah.

‘Cept the Wagners are already in with Pacific National to build a very big intermodal yard at Wellcamp, or somewhere very near to it. It’s gonna be interesting… 🙂

Rabz
January 2, 2022 5:42 pm

Rex – the lead guitarist – talk about superstructures … 😕

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 2, 2022 5:42 pm

Sorry.
I don’t know what came over me there.
Upticks suddenly seemed very important to me.
And, just like that, now they don’t.
It won’t happen again.

miltonf
miltonf
January 2, 2022 5:45 pm

To avoid be called dickless, I say I find Lizze Zee’s posts obnoxious and boastful

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 2, 2022 5:46 pm

Think of the horror when you offer to flounce – and then receive a forrest of upticks.

Are they dickless ones, celebrating your departure?

Or fully dicked, and supporting you in your agony?

Or you receive very little interest at all, and split roughly 50:50 stay/go.
Or 50:50 stay/I don’t care.
As Sir Humphrey says, “Never ask questions where you may not like the answers”.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
January 2, 2022 5:46 pm

That said, I think Albo sticks by his mates. Witness his support for Craig Thompson.

A possibly valid inference.
Or maybe the former Upright Member for Dobell knows some details about Rub and Tug Man that haven’t yet become public knowledge.

miltonf
miltonf
January 2, 2022 5:47 pm

One may not need Carpe’s assessment. Apart from our two most efficient industry sectors (mining and agriculture) the economy is basically moribund. Thanks to sky high energy prices and a constipated labor market caused by undue regulation and sky high state directed wages, we’re basically fucked.

We don’t need Carpe to lecture us about what most of us here already know.

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
January 2, 2022 5:48 pm

Miltonf says:
January 2, 2022 at 4:01 pm

You are basically screwed, the attitudes i’ve seen and the state of the country is shocking.

well fuck off then

Thank you for your missive and the information it provides, i could be churlish and tell you to eat a bag of dicks but i feel that would be your preferred dietary choice.

Given the brevity of your response i can conclude you interrupted fellatio on grandma and pulled uncle daddy’s penis out of your anus to type your twee missive.

just keep being you Bubba, keep it real

Old bloke
Old bloke
January 2, 2022 5:48 pm

Entropy says:
January 2, 2022 at 11:56 am

I would hope there is no moaning when we end up with an Each Way Albo Government and more of the likes of Jaqui Lambie in the Senate then. And rememberClive watered down Abbott’s end Carbon Tax bill for no clear reason other than he could.

Clive supported Abbott to get rid of the Carbon Tax, it wasn’t watered down. Clive however supported the ALP to retain the RET (introduced by JWH, thanks Johnny), and he got Big Al to come to Canberra for the announcement. I remember Big Al and Big Clive standing on the platform to make their announcement, it’s a wonder the platform didn’t collapse under their weight.

I’m voting UAP as they will be removing mandates for the vaxx, scrapping internal passports, and making anti-viral treatments available. The last point in particular is important, there are still people dying from SARS-COV2 when there are treatments denied to them, this is outrageous.

I hope that every sitting member in Parliament will be on the Centrelink queue next year, if it means that we have an Albo government and another screechy Lambie sitting on the red leather, I can put up with that.

Entropy
Entropy
January 2, 2022 5:49 pm

I was being subtle Mr Neilson.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 2, 2022 5:50 pm

Betty II really muffed it by giving bLIAR a knighthood

Hold your friends close but your enemies closer. The Left are the enemy of the monarchy and Liz wants to preserve the institution. She knows Chuck is a sort of royal version of herpes. To protect the monarchy when she shuffles off she needs the 3rd way wet weenies like Blair to be on side. The Corbynists won’t ever be, but they’re pretty discredited right now. So I think it’s an elegant and inexpensive bit of soft diplomacy, much as I dislike Blair and the Green Charlie.

Delta A
Delta A
January 2, 2022 5:50 pm

The present line through the Kuringai National Park is limited to slow speeds, has quite a few very old tunnels

That’s bliss to a train tragic.

miltonf
miltonf
January 2, 2022 5:50 pm

Thank you for your missive and the information it provides, i could be churlish and tell you to eat a bag of dicks but i feel that would be your preferred dietary choice.

Given the brevity of your response i can conclude you interrupted fellatio on grandma and pulled uncle daddy’s penis out of your anus to type your twee missive.

Very profound. Not.

JMH
JMH
January 2, 2022 5:50 pm

Sancho Panzersays:
January 2, 2022 at 5:37 pm
The Furniture Store is a hoot at the minute.
Basically ussr complaining that no-one here reads or responds to her posts (self important git) and talking about how people here are always talking about the Furniture Store (uh-huh) and laughing at the low post numbers (after bird cleansing). Apparently quantity doesn’t matter because the Furniture Store is all quality.
Also, Breadvan Man is concerned that NFA is MIA.
Which begs the question.
Who has been missing from here for the last couple of weeks?

And this latest pathetic attempt at shit-stirring is newsworthy on this forum? Why? Followed by ‘who fuckin’ cares? It seems only a couple of regulars here happen to be infatuated with what transpires on an independent forum.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 2, 2022 5:51 pm

Entropysays:

January 2, 2022 at 5:41 pm

That said, I think Albo sticks by his mates. Witness his support for Craig Thompson.

Hmmmm.
Support for mates, eh?
I seem to recall that one of Craig’s knock-shop bills ran to a number that suggested more than one client was involved.
Wink, nudge.
Speaking of Craig, isn’t he in strife over some immigration scam (allegedly)?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 2, 2022 5:52 pm

Feel free to scroll on by JMH.

Entropy
Entropy
January 2, 2022 5:53 pm

Abbott’s bill would have got rid of the RET, the cheap loan thingy etc etc, all retained by Clive Palmer. There is no getting around that for grandstanding reasons, everyone in this country is paying a lot more for their power because of Clive fucking Palmer. And as a consequence, provided a platform for Turnbull to white ant Abbott.

I hate that bastard, even if he does own a Ferrari.

JC
JC
January 2, 2022 5:53 pm

Actually none.

Stop lying, Nielson. You didn’t let up and calling yourself a victor over and over again with reams of verbose crap.

I asked you, in good faith, what your grounds were for your BIIIIG statement, and all you could do was hold the magnifying glass in front of your own dick and start blustering.

I have zero idea what you’re trying to say.

It was Arky and Dr Beaugan who skinned, filleted, fried, ate and shat you out.

Did they? I recall some of the numbers. The population total in the study was something like 43,651.

409 people testing positive by may have been positive well before being tested. We don’t know. 287 were verifiable positive.

When I said there was nothing really to glean from this for couple of reasons, you began to act like one of the dancers in Village people skit posting comment after comment demanding recognition of victory without explaining why. I basically ignored you. There was nothing to be gleaned because no one explained what were the results for the rest 43,651 (409+287) = 42,955

Now shut up, Neilson and luxuriate in the huge number of upticks you got for the previous mind reading skit you preformed.

Diogenes
Diogenes
January 2, 2022 5:53 pm

Why aren’t gonna go with Gosford as the logical, in-between with all the infrastructure/connections needed already in place?

Because it is in a bowl and the roads in from every direction are a clogged abortion also no room for any parking. A VFT station there does not help anyone living at the northern end of the CC.

The point I was making was that before even the glimmer of a proposed route was made, and mind you this was for the full SydBne VFT, people were proclaiming decisions that were not theirs to make as to where stations would be located.

Heck the route may not have come closer than the Duralong Valley, ie West of the Freeway, and the Newcastle ‘station’ may have been no closer than Maitland, or they may have laid the northern end following a 1960s proposal for the extension of the old Belmont Branch (Belmont to Catherine Hill Bay, then close to Lake Munmorah Power Station, to a point near where the current Bunnings at Lakehaven is, then across to the existing line near Wyong)

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
January 2, 2022 5:53 pm

miltonf says:
January 2, 2022 at 5:47 pm

We don’t need Carpe to lecture us about what most of us here already know.

Why thank you milton i didn’t realise i was lecturing anyone whilst being lectured by you, thank you for your petty statist attitude, it must go down a treat with the other Karens.

I’m interested what do you and the other Bansturbators do for fun ?, drown puppies, run over pedestrians, kick old people in the shins?

Curious minds and all.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
January 2, 2022 5:56 pm

I was being subtle Mr Neilson.

Apologies, Entropy. Too subtle for me!
There goes my burgeoning career as a mind reader…

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
January 2, 2022 5:56 pm

m

iltonf says:
January 2, 2022 at 5:45 pm

To avoid be called dickless, I say I find Lizze Zee’s posts obnoxious and boastful

It’s ok – you be dickless

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 2, 2022 5:56 pm

It was Arky and Dr Beaugan who skinned, filleted, fried, ate and shat you out.

Whoa up.
I recall the former simply declaring it wrong because “I am a maffs major”.
The latter said “Obviously wrong, but I am far to busy to show my workings”.
Hardly a smashing.

Cassie of Sydney
January 2, 2022 5:57 pm

“Let’s just say Albo is a hater.”

Albo’s raison d’etre is hunting down and hating “Tories”. He’s been doing it since the 1980s. The problem for Albo is that there aren’t any Tories in this country but it hasn’t stopped him. Tories are his boogeymen. Albo has never had a real job….he’s been a Labor Party parasite since university days.

He isn’t fit to be PM. Ghastly, ghastly individual.

JC
JC
January 2, 2022 5:57 pm

I dunno, I like reading what’s going on at the factory, JMH. It’s funny. If you don’t, well that’s great. But don’t talk for everyone by doing a Neilson and pretending you’re some sort of mind-reading mufti. There’s something really pathetic when someone ascribes untested opinions to others.

miltonf
miltonf
January 2, 2022 5:57 pm

I’m interested what do you and the other Bansturbators do for fun ?, drown puppies, run over pedestrians, kick old people in the shins?

Curious minds and all.

?

JMH
JMH
January 2, 2022 5:58 pm

I’m voting UAP as they will be removing mandates for the vaxx, scrapping internal passports, and making anti-viral treatments available. The last point in particular is important, there are still people dying from SARS-COV2 when there are treatments denied to them, this is outrageous.

I hope that every sitting member in Parliament will be on the Centrelink queue next year, if it means that we have an Albo government and another screechy Lambie sitting on the red leather, I can put up with that.

Yes.

miltonf
miltonf
January 2, 2022 5:59 pm

Albo has never had a real job….he’s been a Labor Party parasite since university days.

He isn’t fit to be PM. Ghastly, ghastly individual.

too right

Rabz
January 2, 2022 6:02 pm

Albansleazey and Thommo.

Good ol’ fashioned labore sleazebags.

If you wanted one single damning indictment of the gliberals’ staggering incompetence, it would be the fact that the latter have been on the back foot for at least the last 18 months over fabricated sex incidents.

You gormless idiots. When you stand for and believe in nothing, don’t be surprised when your many, many enemies have it all over you – while your parliamentary opponents keep unashamedly getting away with what they accuse you of, you useless spineless expedient quisling kn0bheads.

But yeah, better than labore and the greenfilth they allegedly are …

Except when they’re not, which would be 97% of the time. 😡

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
January 2, 2022 6:03 pm

miltonf says:
January 2, 2022 at 5:57 pm

Dear dear milton

Dont try a stoush you can’t win with the house of Jugulum

MatrixTransform
January 2, 2022 6:03 pm

We don’t need Carpe to lecture us about what most of us here already know

we’ve become pretty solipsistic and I reckon we’ve lost perspective

to be honest I welcome the lashing

Cassie of Sydney
January 2, 2022 6:03 pm

“and another screechy Lambie sitting on the red leather”

No thanks.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
January 2, 2022 6:04 pm

Or you receive very little interest at all, and split roughly 50:50 stay/go.
Or 50:50 stay/I don’t care.

Straying into Oscar Wilde territory there.

Numbers of Upticks would have been critically important to him, but Oscar would also have insisted on distinguishing between the dickless and fully dicked.

JMH
JMH
January 2, 2022 6:04 pm

Sancho Panzersays:
January 2, 2022 at 5:52 pm
Feel free to scroll on by JMH.

You own your childishness, Sancho.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
January 2, 2022 6:05 pm

I have zero idea what you’re trying to say.

Not surprising. Your reading comprehension skills are negligible.

409 people testing positive by may have been positive well before being tested. We don’t know.

You made this assertion by a hopeless misreading of part of something dover quoted. Poor old zero comprehension skills.

When I said there was nothing really to glean from this for couple of reasons,

I don’t think that word “reasons” means what you think it means. You just announced that the numbers were too small to be significant, Arky laid out the maths to show that they were plenty large enough, Dr Beaugan confirmed it, and all you could do was reach for a more powerful magnifying glass to hold over your dick, stamp your feet, and generally make yourself a spectacle for the jeering hooting amusement of discerning readers.

There was nothing to be gleaned because no one explained what were the results for the rest 43,651 (409+287) = 42,955.

Poor old reading comprehension fail. Sample size of 43,651, from which there were 409 and 287 positive tests in total (one number being from each of the test and control group) and you still can’t understand that the others didn’t test positive?
They really should bulldoze Melbourne High.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 2, 2022 6:07 pm

JCsays:

January 2, 2022 at 5:57 pm

I dunno, I like reading what’s going on at the factory, JMH. It’s funny

Quite so.
The funny bit was ussr bitching over there that all we do over here is talk about over there.
If you know what I mean.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 2, 2022 6:08 pm

You own your childishness, Sancho.

That’s it!
Enough is enough!
I am outta here!

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 2, 2022 6:08 pm

Rudd was P.M. twice, Albo’s got nothing on Rudd in the Ghastliness arena.
Just thought of something:
Remember how Albo found his long lost Pappy in Italy a few years ago?
The story was that Albo’s Mum went on a cruise in 1962, met this handsome waiter, romance ensued, then 280 days later a Labor Party Leader is born.
Well, guess what?
That’s the exact same scenario used to explain the birth of future Irish Taiosaich Eamonn De Valera!
Except that Pappy De Valera was never located.
What a coinkydents, eh?

JC
JC
January 2, 2022 6:08 pm

Carpe

When I said we may not need your assessment, it wasn’t meant in some negative way as words only sometimes come across that way. It was actually meant in support of what you would say.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 2, 2022 6:08 pm

Once I’m gone you won’t have Sancho to kick around any more.

miltonf
miltonf
January 2, 2022 6:09 pm

to be honest I welcome the lashing

thing is there are a lot of armchair bitches and bellyachers, fifo critics who don’t get up at 4am, make sue water comes out when you turn the tap on, that your toilet flushes and that your electric kettle works when you want a cup of tea.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 2, 2022 6:09 pm

Just need to get my desk calendar and my coffee cup and I’ll be gone.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
January 2, 2022 6:10 pm

Whoa up.
I recall the former simply declaring it wrong because “I am a maffs major”.
The latter said “Obviously wrong, but I am far to busy to show my workings”.
Hardly a smashing.

Sancho, Arky did spell out the actual mathematical basis for his view. Dr B had previously said he wasn’t going to do the workings in full, but Arky’s maths came close to Dr B’s previously announced back of the envelope calc and Dr B concurred with Arky’s exposition.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 2, 2022 6:11 pm

Haha, just checked Sky News. The top story is what you’ve been discussing:

Anthony Albanese reveals Labor’s plans for high-speed railway is their ‘first priority’ (2 Jan)

Plus about four or five more stories in the series just of Skynews. So Labor seems to’ve atched onto this as The Great 2022 Election Policy or something.

Now putting aside that it is about the dumbest idea imaginable, is horrendously expensive and completely irrelevant to about 95% of voters, the fun other story is this one from a couple days ago:

Sydney train services to be slashed from January 10 (Skynews, 31 Dec)

Sydney’s rail network is slashing services to avoid running ‘ghost trains’ as hundreds of staff are affected by COVID and passengers are staying away in droves.

From January 10, all weekday services will operate on a weekend timetable, with extra trips only during peak hours.

Train trips are down by 17 per cent compared to last year.

Yep, you guessed it. No one wants to ride on trains full of diseased coof sufferers, not even for Gaia. Albo’s timing is just amazing.

JC
JC
January 2, 2022 6:11 pm

Neilson

If you cannot explain what happened to the other 42,955 then STFU. I asked at the time and the other two remained silent while you were busy doing your tradie imitation in a Village People skit.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
January 2, 2022 6:11 pm

PS one way of knowing that Arky and Dr B were right is that Josemite Çam didn’t go within a trillion light years of commenting on what they’d actually said – he just reiterated his evidence free logic free assertion that the numbers were too small.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 2, 2022 6:13 pm

Riiight, Timothy.
I didn’t see either of those “analyses” getting a pass in Year 11 maths.
Especially “I’m too busy to show my workings right now”.
And yes, I know they backed each other up.
Have you followed the history of commenters here very closely?

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
January 2, 2022 6:13 pm

JC says:
January 2, 2022 at 6:08 pm

Carpe

When I said we may not need your assessment, it wasn’t meant in some negative way as words only sometimes come across that way. It was actually meant in support of what you would say.

Thank you JC, except you didn’t say it.

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 2, 2022 6:13 pm

They really should bulldoze Melbourne High.

For sure.
But didn’t he say he went to University High?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 2, 2022 6:16 pm

LOL, the Ponds Institute weighs in.

‘Smart announcement’: Labor pitches high-speed rail between Newcastle and Sydney’s CBD

The Australia Institute Ebony Bennett says it was a “smart announcement” by Opposition Leader Anthony Albanese on a proposed high-speed rail between Newcastle and Sydney’s CBD if he wins the next election.

Kiss of death…

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
January 2, 2022 6:17 pm

I said: Sample size of 43,651, from which there were 409 and 287 positive tests in total (one number being from each of the test and control group) and you still can’t understand that the others didn’t test positive?

Josemite Çam replied: If you cannot explain what happened to the other 42,955 then STFU.

Poor old zero comprehension skills. It’s really desperately sad.
Melbourne High should be bulldozed and the site ploughed with salt.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 2, 2022 6:18 pm

Bwah ha ha ha ha.
Breaking!
Lefty Think Tank Loves Expensive VFT Project.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
January 2, 2022 6:20 pm

Riiight, Timothy.
I didn’t see either of those “analyses” getting a pass in Year 11 maths.

Conversely, Sancho, I didn’t see anyone go within a trillion light years of trying to explain what was meant to be wrong with them.
Feel free to refer me to where the refutation occurred. And Josemite Çam just asserting, with no backing facts, evidence or analysis, that the numbers were too small, isn’t really a refutation.

Indolent
Indolent
January 2, 2022 6:21 pm

Vote for anyone but the establishment (LNP, ALP, GRN) parties. Put them last, in a random order.

If I had a dozen identities here, each one of them would give this a tick.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
January 2, 2022 6:21 pm

Rex if the Wagners are involved bet your money on them getting it especially with the pull they have in governments at all teirs in Queensland. They don’t take no for an answer as some quarry owners in the Central Highlands LGA found out to their detriment a few years back.

Thefrollickingmole
Thefrollickingmole
January 2, 2022 6:22 pm

Well apparently this sucked me in as a real thing…

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/01/01/yet-another-man-made-crisis/

Bluey
Bluey
January 2, 2022 6:23 pm

Rabzsays:
January 2, 2022 at 6:02 pm
Albansleazey and Thommo.

Good ol’ fashioned labore sleazebags.

If you wanted one single damning indictment of the gliberals’ staggering incompetence, it would be the fact that the latter have been on the back foot for at least the last 18 months over fabricated sex incidents.

You gormless idiots. When you stand for and believe in nothing, don’t be surprised when your many, many enemies have it all over you – while your parliamentary opponents keep unashamedly getting away with what they accuse you of, you useless spineless expedient quisling kn0bheads.

But yeah, better than labore and the greenfilth they allegedly are …

Except when they’re not, which would be 97% of the time. ?

And that right there is a great example why I came to the conclusion conservatives are absolutely useless.

miltonf
miltonf
January 2, 2022 6:24 pm

Maybe when they were building the Sydney Newcastle Freeway they could have made provision for a parallel railway but then again the Mooney Mooney descent/ascent may be too steep. Anyway a stupid idea and I wonder if they even have any intention of doing it should they (unfortunately for us) get into power.

PS the DMR films from the 60s about that project are superb.

MatrixTransform
January 2, 2022 6:24 pm

thing is there are a lot of armchair bitches and bellyachers, fifo critics who don’t get up at 4am

but, but … Jugs hasn’t even roasted us yet

can’t we have the stoning after the lecture?

MatrixTransform
January 2, 2022 6:25 pm

Remember how Albo found his long lost Pappy in Italy a few years ago

Fred Flintstone was Italian?

wait … was Fred even Barney Rubble’s dad?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 2, 2022 6:29 pm

If I had a dozen identities here, each one of them would give this a tick.

Indolent – I just upticked your comment ten times. Easy even with only one identity.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
January 2, 2022 6:30 pm

Ed Casesays:
January 2, 2022 at 6:13 pm
They really should bulldoze Melbourne High.

For sure.
But didn’t he say he went to University High?

He may have, but he has also boasted about how at high school he bullied Jon Faine, and Faine went to Melbourne High.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
January 2, 2022 6:30 pm

Feel free to refer me to where the refutation occurred.

Trying to explain binomial distributions to either JC or Sancho is a losing game, Timothy. Like trying to teach calculus to a horse. It merely annoys the horse.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 2, 2022 6:31 pm

but, but … Jugs hasn’t even roasted us yet

can’t we have the stoning after the lecture?

We don’t need no steenkeen lectures.

I think we have way too much fun with the stonings.

Much like cats and toddlers- Couldn’t give a shit about the toy or new object, but absolutely adore the cardboard box it came in…

Rabz
January 2, 2022 6:32 pm

Sydney’s rail network is slashing services to avoid running ‘ghost trains’ as hundreds of staff are affected by COVID and passengers are staying away in droves.

Finally – and taxpayers across that mighty state did rejoice, mate.

From January 10, all weekday services will operate on a weekend timetable, with extra trips only during peak hours.

So stinky unpleasant mediocrity as usual, then.

Train trips are down by 17 per cent compared to last year.

Yeah, LOL. If you believe that, I have a large grey metal bridge the trains occasionally traverse without incident for sale to you good suckers. Credit terms available on request.

Mark from Melbourne
Mark from Melbourne
January 2, 2022 6:34 pm

I’m guessing that not only are you not going back for jab number 2, but also that the Karens are not mentioning the subject.

Actually, no. I had the second AZ a few days ago. There IS logic here… though I’ll confess it is not entirely obvious.

All the research I’ve seen (confirmed with my docs) is that AZ sux the first time, but that the second shot (especially if at 6 weeks not 3 months) somehow falls under the umbrella of the first. Not risk free, but close enough. I just wasn’t up for having it 3 days before Xmas.

So the logic (if it can be called such) runs as follows :-

,,, if the jab is gonna kill me, then I’m already fried. It has, let me say, had a fair first crack to no actual effect. So it had better be a lot cannier over the long haul. It comes into the “deal with that when it happens”.
… I’d like to be able to at least do the shit I thought (didn’t, really, but family pressure etc) that having the AZ shots would “buy” me.
… I now have a piece of paper I can wave about if required. Which makes being a belligerent PITA about the whole thing a bit easier.
… I have four 90+YOs for whom I care in one way or another who are a lot less panic-stricken. The fact that they should be in any way panic-stricken is an absolute f’ing disgrace. But there you go.

It’s shit logic. I especially hate the bit where I get to “buy” freedoms I’d assumed since birth. But we deal with what is in front of us, each unto our own.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 2, 2022 6:38 pm

Rex if the Wagners are involved bet your money on them getting it especially with the pull they have in governments at all teirs in Queensland.

And I think they’ve formed a mutual arrangement with PN to do it, as well. PN own Acacia Ridge (sold to them when Aurizon had a fit of the dividend vapours in 2017 and decided to divest their entire interstate intermodal operation), and run all their Bris-Melbourne and Bris-Sydney services out of there.

This puts them ahead in the Inland Rail game, as they gain an exclusive double-stacking/destacking yard right before the Great Dividing Range.

SCT and Aurizon (if they decide to continue with the current activist coal-has-no-future fad currently sweeping Western investors, and get back into intermodal) don’t, and would need to develop sites of their own.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 2, 2022 6:38 pm

Fire at South African parliament in Cape Town

By Afp
AFP
47 minutes ago January 2, 2022
No Comments

A major fire has erupted in the South African parliament building in Cape Town.

Firefighters were at the building as large flames and a huge column of smoke were seen on Sunday.

“The roof has caught fire and the National Assembly building is also on fire,” a spokesman for the city’s emergency services, requesting reinforcements.

“The fire is not under control and cracks in the walls of the building have been reported.”

Images seen on social media showed a mass of flames licking through what appeared to be the roof of one of the parliament buildings.

There was no indication of what may have started the fire.

The Houses of Parliament in Cape Town consist of three sections, including the original and oldest building, which was completed in 1884.

The newer additions – constructed in the 1920s and 1980s – house the National Assembly.

In April last year, a fire ravaged part of The University of Cape Town’s library housing a unique collection of African archives.

Another “smoking ceremony” gone wrong?

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 2, 2022 6:38 pm

Thanks, Timothy, Melbourne High it is then.

MatrixTransform
January 2, 2022 6:38 pm

Actually, no. I had the second AZ a few days ago

hang on .. they told me 2 x AZ=0

are they still doling that stuff out?

ps: glad yr ok

Bill P
Bill P
January 2, 2022 6:39 pm

I’d just like to thank JC for his links to the Dutch masters. Excellent taste. Confirmed by the fact that he so admires the modern Dutch master musician also IIRC.

JMH
JMH
January 2, 2022 6:40 pm

Sancho Panzersays:
January 2, 2022 at 6:09 pm
Just need to get my desk calendar and my coffee cup and I’ll be gone.

Yoo-hoo Sanch. Before you do the ultimate of drama-queen flounces, (PMSL) answer my question? Where’s the relevance of what transpires on another forum fundamental to the knowledge of all things here. At Dover’s? Don’t you think the few who do care would bookmark the link? (Perhaps there may one or two too fucking stupid to do exactly that.)

calli
calli
January 2, 2022 6:40 pm

Think of the horror when you offer to flounce – and then receive a forrest of upticks.

Excellent point. The solution, of course, is to be really annoying and stay.

And then, there’s this important factor. You just never know…

MatrixTransform
January 2, 2022 6:41 pm

I’d just like to thank JC

don’t encourage him

miltonf
miltonf
January 2, 2022 6:42 pm

So Rex, I take it Aurizon has no interstate ops at all now? That’s a shame.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 2, 2022 6:43 pm

Yeah, LOL.

That would just be calculated from smartcard tag-on/offs and ticket sales from date X to date Y.

Doesn’t actually tell you whom and how long and the destinations used.

Bugmen and folks able to work from home will be milking that for all it is worth. But regular commuting folk are still at things.

I would also suggest that the reduction of services.has nothing to do with the C00f ravaging commuter numbers. It’s EBA time, and Sydney Trains (like all NSW Public Service organisations) is currently experiencing Union bullshittery on a scale not seen in a long time.

It’s probably the only way they have to maintain something approximating a reliable service while the RTBU throw their weight around for a bit…

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
January 2, 2022 6:45 pm

Ourimbah

Wiki

Ourimbah is a small township in the Central Coast region of New South Wales, Australia, located about 78 kilometres (48 mi) north of the Sydney CBD. The township today consists of small scattered local shops and businesses along the Pacific Highway, as well as the Central Coast campus of the University of Newcastle. Ourimbah had a population of 3,951 at the 2016 census.[1]

Apparently Ourimbah means, where they belt the manhood into (or out of) someone.

Sounds like the perfect location for a VFT station.

calli
calli
January 2, 2022 6:45 pm

Pffft. Fast rail.

I want Albo to promise a monorail between Ncl and Syd. A super fast, jet propelled one.

Dot
Dot
January 2, 2022 6:49 pm
miltonf
miltonf
January 2, 2022 6:50 pm

Their ‘promise’ (is it a core or non-core one?) to build a VFT should also been seen in the light of Garret’s ‘when we get in we’ll change everything’.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 2, 2022 6:51 pm

@ Miltonf-

So Rex, I take it Aurizon has no interstate ops at all now? That’s a shame.

They’re actually bringing some back right now.

Tronox (I think the company is named) has mineral sands operations in NSW and a final user in Kwinana, WA. The sands have previously been dug up at Ivanhoe, trucked to Broken Hill for processing, containerised and railed to Adelaide by Bowmans Rail, then put on a ship to Kwinana.

Aurizon has declared it can go one better and cut out all the extras. So from this month, it will be railed directly from the minesite at Ivanhoe to Broken Hill, then the processed product will be railed across to Kwinana directly. Relay-worked all the way.

Trojan Rail were the chosen contractors for staff, but seem to be having shenanigans finding them- First ads in early December were for folks living in Broken Hill. Then suddenly it shifted to Port Augusta.

We shall see. But as the video shows, the new crew van for the job looks pretty slick…

Dot
Dot
January 2, 2022 6:52 pm
Rabz
January 2, 2022 6:54 pm

Sancho Panzer says: 5:37 pm
The Furniture Store is a hoot at the minute.

Is it though? It’s all very easy to lay into some of the most preposterous indevegetables in human history, especially when they’re clad in their latest fancy red shoes, abusing magistrates and warning of dire future happenings, which may or may not include mighty EMPS, massive tsunami, extravesical* toddlers and the enslavement of the remainder of humanity by that master of hell who shall remain nameless.

It’s not good, I tells ya!

*Extraterresticle?

JC
JC
January 2, 2022 6:56 pm

No Ed, I didn’t say I “went to University High”. That’s because I went to Melbourne High. Melbourne high required an entrance exam then and presumably still does. That means you wouldn’t have had a hope of ever getting in, Ed.

miltonf
miltonf
January 2, 2022 6:56 pm

Thanks Rex- good to see some new stuff happening at Broken Hill too. Very interesting.

Must admit this Murray Basin gauge standardisation has caught my imagination- maybe project the Mildura line to Broken Hill. 80 class at St Arnaud, who would have thought it 🙂

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 2, 2022 6:57 pm

But as the video shows, the new crew van for the job looks pretty slick…

I think this is one of 3 or 4 ex-Bluebird railcars that were bought up by Rail First Asset Managment (formerly Chicago Freight Car Leasing Australia) from a private owner in South Oz for conversion into crew cars.

Rabz
January 2, 2022 7:01 pm

Woo-hoo! Look out personages, I’ve discovered a fourth emoticon!

😡

Dot
Dot
January 2, 2022 7:02 pm

Personage? Did you just dead name and mis-classify me you fucking bigot?

I identify as a sentient immaterial being of solid light.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 2, 2022 7:02 pm

Must admit this Murray Basin gauge standardisation has caught my imagination- maybe project the Mildura line to Broken Hill. 80 class at St Arnaud, who would have thought it. 🙂

The scuttlebutt I’ve heard is that much of that overall program was badly half-arsed- Neither Stairman Dan nor V/line had their hearts in it. Which is regrettable, given the overall dearth of investment in any regional Broad Gauge in Victoria outside of V/line’s regular passenger destinations (qnd safe Labor seats)…

Ah well- Alcos is all right, when you can get ’em…I’ve driven the rebuilt GLs (ex-442 class), and while they are a very comfy ride they came to us on hire in awful mechanical condition. And tearing out an Alco’s guts and putting in GE gear, despite the extra 1000 horsepower, feels like an act of heresy.

miltonf
miltonf
January 2, 2022 7:02 pm

yeah those old bluebird cars just keep on keeping on. I actually remember seeing a set at Peterborough in 1982 when they were self propelled forming the Adelaide connection off the Indian Pacific.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 2, 2022 7:04 pm

the processed product will be railed across to Kwinana directly

Probably better that MUA snailsailing. I think there’re a lot of mineral sands deposits undeveloped in the People’s Republic of WAistan, but as I recall Tronox needs rutile or synthetic rutile. The latter requires Collie coal which is anathema to Gaia. So they’re probably trying for natural rutile supplies from all over the place. Rutile is usually a smaller higher grade component of the mineral sands concentrate, so train transport makes a lot of sense. Also anything which doesn’t involve the MUA.

I haven’t read up on that project but I know of Tronox in Kwinana and what process they use.

miltonf
miltonf
January 2, 2022 7:05 pm

Ha ha saw those ex 442s at Goninan’s after their ‘rebirth’ as race horses!

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 2, 2022 7:05 pm

I identify as a sentient immaterial being of solid light.

Luminous beings, are we. Not this crude matter.

Time for a song!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U9t-slLl30E

miltonf
miltonf
January 2, 2022 7:06 pm

The scuttlebutt I’ve heard is that much of that overall program was badly half-arsed

I’ve heard something similar- ‘very political’

srr
srr
January 2, 2022 7:07 pm

Winston Smithsays:
January 2, 2022 at 1:48 pm
srr:

Police Still Shirking Grooming Gang Duty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppGR1es1z2k
The Rotherham rape of young girls and boys has been going on for over twenty years, and the Police still refuse to do their jobs.
This is now about collusion, not laziness.
There are policemen who were on the beat when it started and are now in senior positions and are quite aware of the reality they walked past. Their refusal to deal with the problem means they are complicit in the problem.
Purge.

The worst thing is that it isn’t only Rotherham & it isn’t only the UK.

No, that’s the second worst thing.

The worst is that they still have troops of people to bury their ongoing complicity in the forgetory with cries of, “Pizza! Red Shoes!”.

JC
JC
January 2, 2022 7:07 pm

Doc, you mean this, sourced from Investapedia.

What Is the Binomial Distribution?

The binomial distribution is a probability distribution that summarizes the likelihood that a value will take one of two independent values under a given set of parameters or assumptions.

The underlying assumptions of the binomial distribution are that there is only one outcome for each trial, that each trial has the same probability of success, and that each trial is mutually exclusive, or independent of one another.

Would you mind explaining how you had any confidence in those stats as per the second para, keeping in mind that neither you or the other two are unable explain what the fuck was the result for the 42,955 in rest of the population sample? I asked but both of you remained silent. Meanwhile, Neilson was busy dancing on the stage singing his 30 para missive that he’d won.

JMH
JMH
January 2, 2022 7:08 pm

Where’s Sancho scuttled off to?

Sancho, here – free of charge, I have your new business card:

Sanch Panzer:
Ace Scuttlebutt Reporter
I will deliver shit you really don’t need
Freelance for now but looking to pick up a really good scuttlebutting job with some cretinous MSM outlet in 2022.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 2, 2022 7:08 pm

Where’s the relevance of what transpires on another forum fundamental to the knowledge of all things here. At Dover’s?

Let’s ask two broader questions.
1. What is the raison d’être of this blog as you understand it?; and
2. Which links or commentary fit within that raison d’être and which fall outside? Show some examples.
Try to avoid “I just don’t like it im your answer”.

Baba
Baba
January 2, 2022 7:08 pm

I’m voting UAP as they will be removing mandates for the vaxx, scrapping internal passports, and making anti-viral treatments available.

This is superficially attractive, but what’s the UAP position on foreign aid to East Timor?

Indolent
Indolent
January 2, 2022 7:10 pm

A young pregnant woman has become the first person in the world to be infected with both Covid and the flu.

You mean they can tell the difference now?

John H.
John H.
January 2, 2022 7:10 pm

The Complicated Legacy of E. O. Wilson

His influential text Sociobiology: The New Synthesis contributed to the false dichotomy of nature versus nurture and spawned an entire field of behavioral psychology grounded in the notion that differences among humans could be explained by genetics, inheritance and other biological mechanisms

.

What is so complicated about that? We know people from different ethnic groups can require different medications. The division is not absolute but it most certainly needs to be taken into account when treating some patients. There is no standard reference in these matters. Sometimes genes matter more than environment and vice versa; and of course it is the gene-environment nexus where it all comes together but that doesn’t negate the causal power that either of those determinates can have independently of each other.

The problem is people on the right don’t tolerate concepts that challenge “freedom of choice” because they think it let’s some people off the hook for their behavior. Not in my frame of reference. People on the left don’t tolerate any concepts that challenge the idea genes may play a role in intelligence. People who allow moral concerns dominate the understanding of human behavior are mistaken. Genes, environment, and the interaction between the two influence all aspects of behavior and physiology.

If you’ve read this far, now you can back to arguing about the various blog personalities.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 2, 2022 7:11 pm

Ha ha saw those ex 442s at Goninan’s after their ‘rebirth’ as race horses!

Yeah. Ex-US Dash 7s (already some 20-25 years old and well-thrashed by the time their components were purchased and imported) into not much older Australian Alcos.

New-build motors and gennies may have been the better option. Maybe even a new and properly-engineered box-cab design (Not a lot of room in a GL cab. Certainly not relative to its direct equivalents the G/81/BL or even the 422 class). But that is just my opinion. And at the time, Morrison-Knudsen and Goninans were just looking for what could be done to get new power out on the road quickly.

Cassie of Sydney
January 2, 2022 7:13 pm

Why do some people come here and try and and assume a position of chief censor and try and lord it over others?

miltonf
miltonf
January 2, 2022 7:14 pm

The Jumbos were are fav of mine when I was a kid with their fancy Goodwin-Alco builder’s plate. Last five had Mitsu alternators.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
January 2, 2022 7:15 pm

I said (twice now): Sample size of 43,651, from which there were 409 and 287 positive tests in total (one number being from each of the test and control group) and you still can’t understand that the others didn’t test positive?

Josemite Çam says: neither you or the other two are unable explain what the fuck was the result for the 42,955 in rest of the population sample?

Poor old zero comprehension.
It’s desperately sad.
Also dreadful lack of writing skills. Or maybe “neither you or the other two are unable explain” is an intentional double negative, and he’s acknowledging the simple straightforward and obvious truth that the 42,955 didn’t test positive.

bespoke
bespoke
January 2, 2022 7:15 pm

What’s with all the angst, this place used to be a bastion of civil discussion.

bespoke
bespoke
January 2, 2022 7:16 pm

/sarc

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
January 2, 2022 7:18 pm

Meanwhile in Scotland

Replacing the heating in Nicola Sturgeon’s official residence so it meets her climate change standards is to cost taxpayers more than £800,000

Taxpayers to foot £800k bill to make Nicola Sturgeon’s official residence eco-friendly
Public will pick up cost of replacing gas heaters at Bute House with electric ones to meet First Minister’s climate change standards

JC
JC
January 2, 2022 7:18 pm

JMH

Stop trying to act like your some sort of connoisseur of blogs as such temerity is really fucking annoying. Do you recall our entanglement over the Adam blog. Recall how groveling you were to Adam by trying to sound aghast and outraged when I asked Adam to provide his bio because I, like most people, had zero idea who fuck he was. Recall that stupendous groveling incident showing outrage toward me for being so impertinent to ask those questions. How did work out for you and why aren’t you still at Adam’s blog? Ummmmmm? Don’t try and sound authoritative about blogs because it’s just not you.

local oaf
January 2, 2022 7:20 pm

miltonf says:
January 2, 2022 at 7:02 pm

yeah those old bluebird cars just keep on keeping on.

I remember traveling on a bluebird in 1960 when I was about 7 years old. I could see the speedometer in the unattended driver’s cab at the back of the railcar, we were moving at 70 mph!!!
An unimaginable speed to a kid whose family car might have managed 60 downhill with a strong following wind. 🙂

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 2, 2022 7:21 pm

Cassie of Sydneysays:

January 2, 2022 at 7:13 pm

Why do some people come here and try and and assume a position of chief censor and try and lord it over others?

I assume that is a rhetorical, but I will have a go anyway.
I suspect there is an element of what drives the overly officious parking inspector or pernickerty library monitor.
They have very little control over great swathes of things in their lives, so try to stake out one domain where they can try to exercise control over others. It inevitably falls in a heap because of the same factors which caused them being forced into a backseat in other spheres of their lives.

bespoke
bespoke
January 2, 2022 7:22 pm

People who allow moral concerns dominate the understanding of human behavior are mistaken. Genes, environment, and the interaction between the two influence all aspects of behavior and physiology.

Having identical twins this is proven beyond doubt.

JC
JC
January 2, 2022 7:23 pm

and he’s acknowledging the simple straightforward and obvious truth that the 42,955 didn’t test positive.

No, that’s a lie. No one ever had an answer for that and you’re just making it up now. Nice work worrying about gram check as that’s always a great sign of someone posing a strong argument.

To repeat. No one had an answer for the 42,955 and you’re just making it up now. Present the evidence from the source or just STFU, Neilson.

At least 30 fucking paras dancing around like a big freaking queen. Embarrassing.

miltonf
miltonf
January 2, 2022 7:23 pm

Pretty sad the decline of the old SAR but the convenience of the automobile is hard to beat

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 2, 2022 7:25 pm

The worst is that they still have troops of people to bury their ongoing complicity in the forgetory with cries of, “Pizza! Red Shoes!”.

Fuck off, srr.

This is a problem of police and governmental corruption and moral failure in the United Kingdom. I find it personally appalling.

If you want to be taken as seriously as your planet-sized ego dictates you should be, find yourself something closer to home and champion that.

You might even get an Australian of The Year out of it and even achieve some good work and actually save some folks from the bastardry.

Instead you waste your time and our abusing us for not signalling our virtue to the point of obnoxiousness, and long bow-drawing like yourself.

Take your red shoes back and go cry on the Furniture Store about how you are not being treated in the manner to which you would like to become accustomed.

Cassie of Sydney
January 2, 2022 7:26 pm

“Sancho Panzersays:
January 2, 2022 at 7:21 pm”

Yep.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 2, 2022 7:26 pm

Let’s take this to it’s logical (?) conclusion.
Say we introduce The Veto.
That is, every time someone objects to a link, or a reference or a particular subject being raised, it is immediately taboo und verboten.
Then come back in two weeks and see what a dull introspective inbred cesspit it would be.
Or, if you can’t visualise that, pop over to the Furniture Store for a look.

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 2, 2022 7:28 pm

Entropy

Let’s just say Albo is a hater.

He boasts openly that he is a hater.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 2, 2022 7:31 pm

Less than 15 minutes after having instantly assumed, totally wrongly, that a two word blog comment was ALL ABOUT HER!!!!

Arrant nonsense, Timothy Neilson. Rabz is my personal friend and his two-word comment followed almost immediately on someone else seemingly looking forward to me ‘fighting’ with Johanna. I wanted Rabz to be certain that I was not here to provide entertainment for that sort of crowd. I have no interest whatsoever in sparring here against a bitter and fixated woman and her encouragers in spite of Rabz’s personal encouragement for me to return here. And Rabz could tell you, Mr Nielson, I am a well-spoken and reasonably stylish lady who is generally sparing of rude expletives, but not condemnatory of others who use them well, and that I can offer them myself when they are due to certain acolytes of haters. With great personal restraint, I will abstain from offering you one here.

The ‘all about her’ meme re me or anyone else is well past its use-by date. It was always stupid as was the craziness about ‘flouncing’. Who wouldn’t leave when bullied to excess? Everyone writes their own stories and viewpoints. Sensible people stand up for themselves against bullies and depart in hope of better times when the bullying is constant unifocal confected character assassination.

Re the upticks, a major problem with them is that when a comment is long and multi-faceted with sometimes contradictory elements one is never sure what the upticks really support in such a case. For short comments, they may be indicative, or not. Much depends on whether they are technologically corrupted, as Sancho has noted. They are also easily weaponised.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 2, 2022 7:31 pm

Case in point.
I recall Arky going off on a rant at Sinc-Cat one day about all the peripheral stuff which “has no place here”.
A great long list, including all codes of football, Thermomixes, banal music videos, cricket, reality TV blah, blah, blah.
I told him that he forgot “A Model Ford car restoration videos” when compiling his list.
I think he got the point.
If it doesn’t interest you, move right along.

Indolent
Indolent
January 2, 2022 7:33 pm
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 2, 2022 7:36 pm

Fuck off, srr.

This is a problem of police and governmental corruption and moral failure in the United Kingdom. I find it personally appalling.

Quite so, Rex.
To paraphrase, “Because you don’t swallow whole every red-shoe pizza link I post, by definition you are enabler of the Rotherham rapists”.
Fuck off.

JC
JC
January 2, 2022 7:38 pm

Neilson, One last time about the study and I’ll putting this to bed and you back on stage.

The size of the sample was 43, 651.
287 tested positive
409, tested positive but the organizers weren’t sure if this group was positive before or after being vaxxed.

If they aren’t sure about the 409, then the fucking study is faulty because they are unable to demonstrate they possess any real confidence for the balance – 42,955. Do you know? Now, STFU and go see if you can drum up a client for tax advice instead of wasting my time and everyone else, you prancing queen. You’re a terrible freaking lawyer.

Cassie of Sydney
January 2, 2022 7:38 pm

“This is a problem of police and governmental corruption and moral failure in the United Kingdom. I find it personally appalling.”

Correct. The failures lie with the various UK regional police forces who preferred (and some still do) to kowtow to the cults of political correctness and the religion of pieces. And of course the victims were primarily white working class girls and nobody gives a shit about them…….there were some Sikh girls targeted although in Luton the Sikh community, after complaining to the police who then proceeded to do nothing, took matters into their own hands.

You’ll get a knock on the door in the UK for a “hateful” tweet but if you’re a Muesli man of Pakistani or Bengali background involved in the grooming and raping white working class girls, you’ll frequently get a free pass.

2dogs
2dogs
January 2, 2022 7:39 pm

The Rotherham rape of young girls and boys has been going on for over twenty years, and the Police still refuse to do their jobs.

Rotherham is in the South Yorkshire constabulary, whose commissioner is a Labour party member. You get the policing you vote for.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 2, 2022 7:39 pm

Also, Rex, can you lay off the train talk?
As you know not everyone loves trains.
Ta.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 2, 2022 7:41 pm

Taxpayers to foot £800k bill to make Nicola Sturgeon’s official residence eco-friendly
Public will pick up cost of replacing gas heaters at Bute House with electric ones to meet First Minister’s climate change standards

The wind isn’t blowing and the plebs are unhappy that the lairds are cutting down the forests to erect bird munchers. Only lefties can manage to FUBAR like this.

Wind Power Drops By A Third In Q3 (1 Dec)

It is quite shocking to see that wind generation has fallen by 38% for onshore and 24% for offshore year on year. This is despite new capacity being added.

We are familiar with short term drops in output, maybe for a few days or even weeks. But to lose effectively a third of generation for a whole quarter shows just how dangerous over reliance on wind power is.

The difference was made up largely from imports, which doubled

14m trees have been cut down in Scotland to make way for wind farms (Feb 2020)

NEARLY 14 million trees have been chopped down across Scotland to make way for wind turbines.

The Scottish Government expects to be generate 100 per cent of its electricity from renewable sources this year – but concerns have been raised about finding a balance between green energy and sustaining forests.

Now statistics, released by Forestry and Land Scotland, show that 13.9 million trees have been axed to make way for 21 wind farm projects since 2000.

Six of the wind farms have been built in Argyle and Bute and three apiece in both Dumfries and Galloway and East Ayrshire.

Not since the lairds evicted the peasants to run sheep has there been such a social mess. And as for importing energy France has had to shut down several nuclear reactors due to cracking and the Germans shut half their nuke fleet on Friday because of Green ideology. Add in the Russian gas go slow and I can’t see the UK importing electricity much longer.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 2, 2022 7:41 pm

Also, Rex, can you lay off the train talk?
As you know not everyone loves trains.
Ta.

Railroad me at your own peril, Sancho…

#Honk

Bluey
Bluey
January 2, 2022 7:42 pm

Sancho Panzersays:
January 2, 2022 at 7:21 pm
Cassie of Sydneysays:

January 2, 2022 at 7:13 pm

Why do some people come here and try and and assume a position of chief censor and try and lord it over others?

I assume that is a rhetorical, but I will have a go anyway.
I suspect there is an element of what drives the overly officious parking inspector or pernickerty library monitor.
They have very little control over great swathes of things in their lives, so try to stake out one domain where they can try to exercise control over others. It inevitably falls in a heap because of the same factors which caused them being forced into a backseat in other spheres of their lives.

Have a look at this and see it something rings a bell cassie
https://alphagameplan.blogspot.com/2011/03/socio-sexual-hierarchy.html

bespoke
bespoke
January 2, 2022 7:42 pm

Legal threats, threatening to send hic family members after people, accusations of wife beating, being told what to do with some sex toy and doxing.

All very classy.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 2, 2022 7:42 pm

Oops, first story is from 1 Jan 2022 not 1 Dec. I’m living in the past.

Rabz
January 2, 2022 7:42 pm

Let’s just say Albo is a hater.
He boasts openly that he is a hater.

Hence his propensity for “fighting torries* and unrepentantly posting pictures of NHS nurses”.

*This malapropism was published back when I still had a subscription to the Oz and they were getting increasingly bolshie about their refusal to post any of my comments.

Except for this one, which remains my last published comment – in reply to an imbecile**:

“Who or what, is a “torrie”?

** and yes, I have no idea what the “story” was about or named, except that it was (yet) another tongue bath of albanzleazey.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 2, 2022 7:43 pm

Besides, trains and plumbing are the only places where you can talk about flanges without people instantaneously assuming the worst of you…

#Heeheehee!HeSaidFlange

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 2, 2022 7:47 pm

Ourimbah is a small township in the Central Coast region of New South Wales

I went to a totally spaced-out rock concert there sometime around 1970.

Now I just party on at grandchildren’s birthday parties. Not long in from one.
tempus fugit so carpe diem. Party on.
I have a TV show to watch with Hairy, who needs me off here.
“Waste of time” he says, seeing me blogging again. Sometimes it is, I reply.

Dot
Dot
January 2, 2022 7:48 pm

The alpha is the tall, good-looking guy who is the center of both male and female attention. The classic star of the football team who is dating the prettiest cheerleader.

both male and female attention

That sounds fake and gay to me.

Indolent
Indolent
January 2, 2022 7:48 pm
JC
JC
January 2, 2022 7:48 pm

Go to the link and quickly read what’s written on the cup. Then read it slowly.

https://twitter.com/Jevaughn_Brown/status/1477455854660202510/photo/1

This is a good example of why we need to be careful about what to believe.

Cassie of Sydney
January 2, 2022 7:48 pm

“Have a look at this and see it something rings a bell cassie
https://alphagameplan.blogspot.com/2011/03/socio-sexual-hierarchy.html

No, it doesn’t.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
January 2, 2022 7:49 pm

I asked but both of you remained silent.

No, JC, I told you that it was irrelevant, and it is. Your research on the binomial distributions leaves out the important fact that we have an estimate of the standard deviation. I shall spare you the algebra.
Imagine you have a million ppl and one in a hundred thousand have dysentry and one in fifty thousand have taken colchicine for gout. That gives us thirty ppl with the runs. The remaining 999,970 haven’t. This doesn’t mean that of the thirty who do, there is no way of telling which have dysentry and which don’t. The much greater number who don’t have the runs is not relevant to the cause of the runs in the small number who do. Testing for dysentery would do it.

I pointed out also that because we can estimate the standard deviation in the small number who tested positive, we could estimate the probability that the difference in the two groups that did was just chance. It was over five sigma iirc. That makes it awfully unlikely.

Cassie of Sydney
January 2, 2022 7:50 pm

I should also add that rape is a tool of jihad. It’s been practiced since Mo’s time.

JC
JC
January 2, 2022 7:50 pm

Bespoke, explain.

bespoke says:
January 2, 2022 at 7:42 pm

Legal threats, threatening to send hic family members after people, accusations of wife beating, being told what to do with some sex toy and doxing.

All very classy.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 2, 2022 7:52 pm

“The size of the sample was 43, 651.
287 tested positive
409, tested positive but the organizers weren’t sure if this group was positive before or after being vaxxed.”

This is the nub of the whole problem, and takes it out of the realm of absolutely definitive, binary “coin-toss” analysis.
This is the difference between purely academic analysis and the real world, where input data is often incomplete, “fuzzy” or even contradictory.
Given vaccines have a ramp up effectivity period, that further complicates the analysis, in addition to the possible “contraction pre or post” question.
This isn’t as simple as punching a few buttons on the trusty old TI scientific calculator.

Dot
Dot
January 2, 2022 7:53 pm

Pretty sure this bloke is a doppelganger of mine more than Ben Shapiro is.

https://government-scam.com/

https://artofliberty.org/

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
January 2, 2022 7:55 pm

Sancho Panzer says:
January 2, 2022 at 7:39 pm
Also, Rex, can you lay off the train talk?
As you know not everyone loves trains.
Ta.

Fuck off Sancho – everyone loves trains, and if they don’t, they should.
(Disclaimer: I am a rolling stock engineer)

Cassie of Sydney
January 2, 2022 7:56 pm

“But then again, I do not think there is any clearway for a juvenile sniper to run riot either”

I can’t help but note that you’re quite selective as to which juvenile sniper running riot annoys you.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 2, 2022 7:57 pm

JMH.
You think I am a juvenile sniper*.
I think you are an overblown, pompous wannabe blog captain.
I suggest you give up aspirations of taking up that role. It looks like it got too much for the last one.
So let’s call it one-all, eh?
.
.
* I suspect because, like JC, I expressed a few doubts about AdamD.

2dogs
2dogs
January 2, 2022 7:58 pm

Remember how Albo found his long lost Pappy in Italy a few years ago

That, and how he subsequently, in a sworn statement, declared that he did not know his father.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 2, 2022 7:58 pm

I do not think there is any clearway for a juvenile sniper to run riot either.

*BANG!*

Heeheehee! 😀

[Runs away, cackling]

JC
JC
January 2, 2022 7:59 pm

Doc

Your explanation ignores the elephant in the china shop.

This is all from memory.
The study said 409 people may have gotten the vax while having covid. At least the study organizers couldn’t tell. This makes the entire study next to useless because if they are unable to tell for this group, what confidence should anyone have about the remaining – that is the 42,955? In fact, what did the 42,955 comprise of? Do you know, as I don’t because no one told us. Yet, you were happy to stamp the study as worthwhile and I was an idiot even though you had zero answer for this part of the sample.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
January 2, 2022 7:59 pm

Think of the horror when you offer to flounce – and then receive a forrest of upticks.

Calli:
Excellent point. The solution, of course, is to be really annoying and stay.

Correct and deeply philosophical; Oscar would be very proud of your ability to extract maximum value from a situation.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 2, 2022 8:00 pm

Fuck off Sancho – everyone loves trains, and if they don’t, they should.
(Disclaimer: I am a rolling stock engineer)

How should I fuck off, oh Fat One?
Walking?
Car?
Bicycle?
Because I sure as shit wouldn’t be seen dead on a train.

JMH
JMH
January 2, 2022 8:01 pm

I can’t help but note that you’re quite selective as to which juvenile sniper running riot annoys you.

Oh, do confess, Cassie. Name names.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 2, 2022 8:02 pm

The blockquote stuff in my comment at 7:52 are my words.

bespoke
bespoke
January 2, 2022 8:03 pm

Just small sample reminding the princes she isn’t a virgin, JC.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 2, 2022 8:03 pm

Fuck off Sancho – everyone loves trains, and if they don’t, they should.

Even the truck folk:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mQ-G8lTqAzE

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 2, 2022 8:04 pm

Juvenile sniper?
In the words of Alec Baldwin … “I didn’t know it was loaded.”

MatrixTransform
January 2, 2022 8:04 pm

weaponised upticks

LoL

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
January 2, 2022 8:05 pm

Sancho Panzer says:
January 2, 2022 at 8:00 pm
Fuck off Sancho – everyone loves trains, and if they don’t, they should.
(Disclaimer: I am a rolling stock engineer)

How should I fuck off, oh Fat One?
Walking?
Car?
Bicycle?
Because I sure as shit wouldn’t be seen dead on a train.

Your offer of dead on a train is acceptable…

JC
JC
January 2, 2022 8:05 pm

JMH

Why aren’t you at Adam D’s blog? You adored the guy so much and yet you’re here all warm, settled and toasty.

Dot
Dot
January 2, 2022 8:05 pm
JMH
JMH
January 2, 2022 8:06 pm

Sancho Panzersays:
January 2, 2022 at 7:57 pm
JMH.
You think I am a juvenile sniper*.
I think you are an overblown, pompous wannabe blog captain.
I suggest you give up aspirations of taking up that role. It looks like it got too much for the last one.
So let’s call it one-all, eh?

Good to know I am over the target.

ps: I do not comment on Adam’s blog. Nice try, but!

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
January 2, 2022 8:06 pm

I must have missed it, but amazing that the Cat appears to have had a 30 round stouche – and now ongoing -over what appears to be three discrete data points.

Involving a binomial solution, no less.

Impressive.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
January 2, 2022 8:07 pm

Gray Connolly has a good riposte to the ABC and its claque of faves such as Kerryn Phelps denouncing Perrotet and calling for more rigorous lockdowns: point out to them that by their own logic (if you could call it that) they would have to support shutting down the Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras. Imagine the howls of outrage.

JC
JC
January 2, 2022 8:07 pm

ps: I do not comment on Adam’s blog. Nice try, but!

Redundant as we all know. See my last comment with a question for you to answer.

Rabz
January 2, 2022 8:08 pm
Old Lefty
Old Lefty
January 2, 2022 8:08 pm

Yes Dot: they promote birth control and then panic when the most common birth name is Mohammed. I believe it’s called cognitive dissonance.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
January 2, 2022 8:11 pm

On matters LGBTQI+, surely it’s time that the memory of Gough Whitlam was cancelled. Think of all those speeches the heteronormative transphobic essentialist bigot began with ‘Men and women of Australia’!

Dot
Dot
January 2, 2022 8:12 pm

I double dog dare you rabz to take edibles and watch that and Alex Jones on rotation.

srr
srr
January 2, 2022 8:13 pm

What, why the hell aren’t you laughing about it like you usually do?

Rex Anger says:
January 2, 2022 at 7:25 pm

The worst is that they still have troops of people to bury their ongoing complicity in the forgetory with cries of, “Pizza! Red Shoes!”.

Fuck off, srr.

This is a problem of police and governmental corruption and moral failure in the United Kingdom. I find it personally appalling.

If you want to be taken as seriously as your planet-sized ego dictates you should be, find yourself something closer to home and champion that.

You might even get an Australian of The Year out of it and even achieve some good work and actually save some folks from the bastardry.

Instead you waste your time and our abusing us for not signalling our virtue to the point of obnoxiousness, and long bow-drawing like yourself.

Take your red shoes back and go cry on the Furniture Store about how you are not being treated in the manner to which you would like to become accustomed.

Or better yet, if you can’t bear an Open, Public Forum that doesn’t exclude discussions about ongoing International Child Sex Slave Traders (you know, like the Maxwell associates she’s refusing to give up or the whole Heiner Affair that’s still waiting for justice to be done), then maybe you should remove yourself from public discourse.

BTW, remember the “experts” Victoria imported from the UK that got State & Federal Funding to shove the whole TransKids & other evils onto us.
One was particularly expert at not doing a bloody thing to stop the Police backed Muslim Child Sex Slave Trade in the UK.

Meanwhile we also have those sorts of cases in Australia but people like you have trained others to avoid the topic like the plague lest they to get branded with infantile bullshit.

Oh but hang on, these are all current & local topics that you usually fob off by guffawing, “Pizzia! Red Shoes!”, that your like minded mates also enjoy having a chuckle over.
Why aren’t you laughing now?
Better yet, why don’t you just keep your mouth shut and let those who want to report or talk about such news, do so?
Rhetorical.

Oh and btw, I know what certain groups do to Australian’s of The Year who don’t Shut Up when arseholes like you tell them to … funny you should try that tack …

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 2, 2022 8:15 pm

Because I sure as shit wouldn’t be seen dead on a train.

It is diffocult to be seen dead on one these days- The line from Central to Rookwood Cemetery in Sydney is long gone, and most funeral cortegés have either been horsedrawn or motorised.

win
win
January 2, 2022 8:15 pm

I have had a video call from a young friend in Rome vaxed and boosted for the immigration department to grant a student viza. I spoke to her on day 3 of high fever and now on day six she has been officially diagnosed with Delta. So we have a young 24year old with all the Covid “vaccines” sicker than had she had no vaccine and let her own immune system create better and longer lasting anti bodies. She how ever is a smoker. ? ? How about adding smokers to the hospital admissions.
This is the only person I know or have heard of who has had Corona and she is in Italy. Take care Rosie.

Rabz
January 2, 2022 8:16 pm
JC
JC
January 2, 2022 8:21 pm

Australia really is a fucking shithole, you know. The other day, I was trying to buy some well priced polo shirts off a site that sells cheaply for a couple of birthdays. I had the address bar wrongly set as the US and the site was giving me a really good choice. of items for sale. I settled on what I wanted to buy and clicked on to the bag tab. I changed “country” designation and the shopping bag went empty. I tried to go to the brand site but was offered zero choice.

In other words, the brand is forced to ban anyone else selling here as the domestic retailers have exclusive rights. This would be Myers and David Jones.

Roger
Roger
January 2, 2022 8:21 pm

Old Lefty, it’ not cognitive dissonance, it’s a cultural death wish.

Rabz
January 2, 2022 8:21 pm

Gray Connolly has a good riposte:

“Conservatives who opposed gay marriage, light rail and the return and earn scheme are the same sort of dinosaurs who would oppose the Morristeen government’s courageous and groundbreaking year net zero initiative, I tells ya!”

Bluey
Bluey
January 2, 2022 8:22 pm

Cassie of Sydneysays:
January 2, 2022 at 7:48 pm
“Have a look at this and see it something rings a bell cassie
https://alphagameplan.blogspot.com/2011/03/socio-sexual-hierarchy.html”

No, it doesn’t.

Pity, I was thinking the “gamma” describes quite a few who have to be right, have a hissyfit when they’re proven wrong over and over, and perform just as Sancho described. Best thing to do is ignore them, they’ll always move the goalposts to pretend they’re the king.

Dot
Dot
January 2, 2022 8:25 pm

In other words, the brand is forced to ban anyone else selling here as the domestic retailers have exclusive rights. This would be Myers and David Jones.

Sure it’s not voluntary? But how could they stop resellers?

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 2, 2022 8:25 pm

Anyone thinking SloMo is going to fall over the line needs to be able to point to the 3 or 4 seats the Lieborals will have picked up before counting begins in WA. I suspect it won’t be one of those Federal elections when nobody bothers crossing the Nullarbor.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
January 2, 2022 8:28 pm

Well, you’ve absolutely got me cold JC.

Here’s the FDA report.

https://www.fda.gov/media/144245/download#page=42

Page 18 sets out the table that 100 of the 43,651 were excluded from the first dose trial. So the 42,955 becomes 42,855. It does seem also that there was some further dropoff, e.g. the table on p32 suggests that the population had fallen at some point to 43,355.

And here’s the extract where they refer to the 409 and 287.

Among 3410 total cases of suspected but unconfirmed COVID-19 in the overall study
population, 1594 occurred in the vaccine group vs. 1816 in the placebo group. Suspected
COVID-19 cases that occurred within 7 days after any vaccination were 409 in the vaccine
group vs. 287 in the placebo group.

And, yes, they don’t expressly state that the rest of the study groups weren’t suspected covid cases within the 7 days.

So very obviously they didn’t bother checking the 42,900 or thereabouts other members of the two groups and have absolutely no idea whether they were suspected covid cases or not.

It just makes such perfect sense now. I can’t think why I didn’t see it before.

JC
JC
January 2, 2022 8:30 pm

Dot

It’s the only conclusion I can reach as there’s no other, I think.

I see it all too often where Australians can’t buy stuff with an Australian address. You can get around that crap by sending the stuff to a re-shipper, which I have done, but that’s really expensive.

Dot
Dot
January 2, 2022 8:30 pm

All of this alpha, beta, coaching etc stuff was based on nonsense that was disavowed by the animal behaviour researchers.

It’s so lame.

It just isn’t applicable in any society bar a feudal state with constant warfare and no ban on formal or informal polygamy.

If you can just buy a course (LOL) and learn how to be “alpha” then it means nothing.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
January 2, 2022 8:34 pm

Sancho Panzersays:
January 2, 2022 at 7:52 pm
“The size of the sample was 43, 651.
287 tested positive
409, tested positive but the organizers weren’t sure if this group was positive before or after being vaxxed.”

Sancho, the bolded bit is JC’s semi-literate misinterpretation of something dover referenced in a comment. It’s utter bullshit.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
January 2, 2022 8:35 pm

I must have missed it, but amazing that the Cat appears to have had a 30 round stouche – and now ongoing -over what appears to be three discrete data points.

Involving a binomial solution, no less.

There were about forty thousand ppl in two equal sized groups, one produced about four hundred counts and the other less than three hundred. The question was, are those numbers significantly different.

On the credible hypothesis that the numbers were from a binomial distribution, the answer is yes. I’m getting tired of trying to explain elementary probability theory to the innumerate. So at this point I quit.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 2, 2022 8:35 pm

What, why the hell aren’t you laughing about it like you usually do?

Because, Mrs Faulty, I laugh at you. And your bullshit.

Remember that ego of yours, the size of a planet?

And how it once prompted you to proclaim on Discord (to the gushing- And I mean literally gushing- Excitement of Mr. Faulty) that the desertified inland of Australia is a myth promoted by the globalists to keep the population limited to the coastal belts of the country, discourage resource exploitation and keep land values depressed?

Remember how incensed you got when I pointed out your bullshit? Using examples of the failed soldier-settlers schemes, 200-odd recorded years of crippling droughts and so forth. Have you ever been to Quorn in South Australia, Mrs Faulty? A farming centre characterised by farmland so marginal and floodprone, that the only thing preventing its total abandonment was the Commonwealth Railways?

Remember how you screamed at me then for puncturing your narrative with historical facts and broader understanding than yours?

Here we go again…

bespoke
bespoke
January 2, 2022 8:35 pm

Could be something to do with GST compliance, JC.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 2, 2022 8:35 pm

Total posts for 2022 at The Furniture Shop – 15*

Total posts for 2022 at FlashCat – 1,435.

Which one is more interesting, covers a broader range of topics and incorporates SMEs from countless fields of endeavour to improve the knowledge and outlook for all?

I will now mention the Furniture Shop several more times because someone said not to.

The Furniture Shop. Grand Sale, Grand Sale, Grand Sale.
Free bedside tables with every protest song.

*Includes, as mentioned by some upthread, several complaints from ssrss about the lack of attention received – and that nobody reads, let alone is converted by, links about how the Knights Templar started the Freemasons at Antioch in 1098 which led to replicating metal nano-creatures under people’s toenails.

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 2, 2022 8:39 pm

Polo Shirt in David Jones the other day, $159.
No wonder people want to sneak in here by boat
The opportunities for legal banditry are best in the world.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 2, 2022 8:40 pm

What?

The desertified inland of Australia is a myth?

Geez. Nobody tell all the people that live there. My lying eyes have clearly deceived me for years.

Roger
Roger
January 2, 2022 8:41 pm

Imagine the howls of outrage.

Imagine the howls of outrage if he’d said that homosexuality is a perversion of nature and a civilisational dead end.

Connolly is a creature of the outer faction of the Uniparty, which exists to stymie but finally ratify the agenda of the inner faction.

And so the revolution advances.

Cassie of Sydney
January 2, 2022 8:42 pm

“Knuckle Draggersays:
January 2, 2022 at 8:35 pm
Total posts for 2022 at The Furniture Shop – 15*

Total posts for 2022 at FlashCat – 1,435.”

Careful, you’ll offend Chief Censor.

Muddy
Muddy
January 2, 2022 8:43 pm

Top Ender.
If the following link actually works, no doubt you are already familiar with it (re. Towton), but I thought I’d put it out there anyway: (Page 243):

https://archive.org/details/yorkshirearchae05socigoog/page/242/mode/2up?q=warfe+scotton

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