Open Thread – New Year 2022


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Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 3, 2022 7:41 am

Leak’s Albanese as Monorail Guy from The Simpsons is brilliant.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 3, 2022 7:43 am

Hairy, I know you read here
apparently your station is so crucial and of national importance

Matrix, like Bespoke, you conflate issues, insulting both your own intelligence and mine. Perhaps you were drunk. I still object to Johanna’s intrusive doxxing attempts some seven or more years ago when Hairy was still working in a highly public position in a major restructuring role drawing leftist media attention at the time. A sensitive thing.

This had nothing to do with the time in 2020 when we had both returned to Australia paying our own way as required by the Australian government of all citizens overseas, at the start of the Covid hysteria. On our return, a commenter ‘Nick’ maliciously accused us both without any evidence of breaking quarantine, a criminal offense, especially in the context of the Ruby Princess fiasco. I was justifiably angry about this slur, which was typical of that man, especially after the pile-on we had received when we left these shores.

The slurs I have received here from some have become unfair and untrue memes and are reinforced, Matrix, by your comments about ‘what people really think’. I am not an entitled boaster, no-one who knows me thinks that. That is Johanna’s construction, ably assisted by others, which she makes from her own feelings of inadequacy. I am sorry for her but she needs to face her own demons and change.

Yes, Hairy does read here occasionally and as a decent man who dearly loves his wife who adores him back (ask our Cat friends re that) he is disgusted by the pile-ons I have received. He wants to encourage me in a writing career which I have only engaged in during the past five years, since I turned seventy-five. I will be eighty this year against Hairy’s turning seventy; a long life for us both in which much has happened. At one time Catallaxy gave me a start and the confidence to continue, but he believes it is deleterious to me now. That much is clear. My presence here on the OT always causes a focus of hate from the usual suspects, which derails better comments, especially if I feel the need to issue corrective comments myself (as in this one).

Areff once compared it to chooks in a chook-pen as the pecking order reaches its nadir. Not long after that Sinc temporarily closed down the blog. At times of significance I may still drop in here. I have concluded that allowing oneself to be railroaded out is to let malice win, and Arky if you are listening, think on that too. The site is still great, Dover, the pics are marvellous and so are many of the threads, including the OT at its best.

Cassie of Sydney
January 3, 2022 7:47 am

“I don’t think monty was disliked by the majority of posters here – he was regarded more as a wayward son who had some hope of redemption.”

I would agree with that description. Monty is not a bad person. But having Monty run a right of centre/libertarian blog….no.

Anyway, we could do with the likes of Monty making an occasional appearance here.

calli
calli
January 3, 2022 7:49 am

Involving a binomial solution, no less.

Faustus! How binary of you.

Athird solution presents itself – stay and complain loudly.

“There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about.” – Oscar Wilde

calli
calli
January 3, 2022 7:50 am

Monty reminded me of one of those weighted punching clowns. Bop! And up he pops again!

Remarkable fortitude. Also, I don’t think he took the knocks particularly to heart.

min
min
January 3, 2022 7:51 am

About to ring doctor son as mine on holidays as I have been getting symptoms since booster . I had booster on Monday 20/12/21 next day had a sore arm and that evening suddenly hit with aches all over and feeling extremely tired so went to bed with panadol’. OK next day but had an extremely busy day with a stressful dinner meeting 11 members of new partner’s family who had never heard of me . I am used to running groups , but more pressure on this occasion no problems at all in fact invited into family foto by them . Next day after a busy start I suddenly felt terrible , shivering so badly had to go to bed with wheat pad , blankets and Panadol . Looked very ill as I was at reception when it happened and neighbour rang me to see if I was OK. Again recovered next day but told son who advised me to rest Christmas Day only got to lunchtime when I fell asleep until 4.30 . All good then until yesterday when again in the early evening suddenly aching all over and hardly able to get myself to bed . OK this morning a bit lethargic .
So Cats what is happening?

Cassie of Sydney
January 3, 2022 7:54 am

“Top Endersays:
January 3, 2022 at 7:20 am”

Cater nails it……worth reminding people how mute Scumbag Morrison has been about it.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 3, 2022 7:54 am

Lizzie’s gone again.
What exactly was the point of all that?

Gez, I simply said I would not be around much. I am busy.
Others may have construed it as ‘a flounce’. A stupid word at the best of times.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 3, 2022 7:55 am

Look – if the rumours are true and Monty’s a ranga, we’re all better off without him.

There are enough people here without souls as it is.

bespoke
bespoke
January 3, 2022 7:57 am

Truly it’s my last word.

calli
calli
January 3, 2022 7:58 am

No new thread for the new week. Makes sense with the Epiphany painting – Thursday and all the decorations go back in their boxes for another year.

I will be sad to do it this year – as I am today with the littlest ones going home. We have had a full house for nearly a fortnight, and it will be strange going back to cooking for two.

But quieter…much, much quieter. 😀

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
January 3, 2022 7:59 am

I still miss John Constantine.
That magnificent mad bastard of the soil.

Pogria
Pogria
January 3, 2022 8:00 am

With Rome on a lot of peeps minds lately, I found this An ordinary Aussie’s Guide to Preparing to Travel to Rome.

I found it very educational. 😉

calli
calli
January 3, 2022 8:01 am

His takes on the medicorcs would be priceless, Gez.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 3, 2022 8:02 am

Min, I think you are having a reaction to the vaxx. It sounds fairly similar to what I had many years ago with the combined typoid/cholera jab they gave in those days. I had recurrent fevers over a week and was extremely tired – and this was as a young woman. The first AZ jab this year knocked me out for a day, but a friend was in bed for a week with it. I hope it passes quickly for you. Take the time to rest up with panadol and a good book. See a doc if it worsens or lasts into another week.

Lovely to hear how well-accepted you have been by your new partner’s family. They seem to understand that romance can blossom at any age. Good on you.

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 3, 2022 8:05 am

Yet Nick Cater lacked the nous (or the moral courage() to call out the obvious lie behind the OPH arson attack.

Today’s activist firebrands share little attachment to the Aboriginal culture and traditions Bonner wanted to uphold, judging by their cynical weaponisation of a sacred ceremony.

“sacred ceremony” is a strange way to spell “recently concocted theatre”.

miltonf
miltonf
January 3, 2022 8:08 am

Leak Jr got Elbowsleazey perfectly. What have Australians done to deserve such people apart from voting for them. Are we really that bad.

Politics is pretty much a closed shop and open only to those with the right connections in the unipardy. Sometimes it’s better not to vote at all.

shatterzzz
January 3, 2022 8:12 am

I will be sad to do it this year – as I am today with the littlest ones going home. We have had a full house for nearly a fortnight, and it will be strange going back to cooking for two.

I’m getting two of mine, 10 & 12 flying up from Danistan for a week on Friday .. mum (with youngest, 3) is coming up the following weekend to pick them up & take them home .. last saw them November2020

shatterzzz
January 3, 2022 8:14 am

Politics is pretty much a closed shop and open only to those with the right connections in the unipardy. Sometimes it’s better not to vote at all.

But NOT voting , virtually, guarantees the same old, same old …… a NO win situation, unfortunately!

Real Deal
Real Deal
January 3, 2022 8:23 am

Anyway, we could do with the likes of Monty making an occasional appearance here.

I think he is needed, Cassie. And if this occasional poster may be bold enough to say this; Dover’s Cat actually misses Toowoomba Bob. His pomposity and hubris seemed to bring out the best and wittiest responses from posters. There is a bit too much of people turning on each other. Good foils like Monty and Bob are needed. Monty especially could take a few brickbats. Bob could get narked but at least fronted up. Can’t believe I’m missing the pompous old git.

Real Deal
Real Deal
January 3, 2022 8:26 am

I still miss John Constantine.
That magnificent mad bastard of the soil

Agree Gez, he is dearly missed here.

Cassie of Sydney
January 3, 2022 8:27 am

Real Dealsays:
January 3, 2022 at 8:23 am”

Agree 100% RD.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
January 3, 2022 8:28 am

Mater’s Musings #48: YOUR risk of dying from Covid-19 – Part 2

The facts have always been there and I’ve pointed it out here a few times but we’re preaching to the converted and not the punters who’ve swallowed the medical mantra.
We live in a time of scientific and political absolutism. Centralised power and influence focussed on controlling the individual to achieve grand illusions of an ordered and orderable world.
The bible said god created man in his own image. We are currently trying create god in ours.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 3, 2022 8:33 am

Morrison on the teev, announcing that the majority of Covid cases in hospitals didn’t end up there because they had Covid but for broken bones, heart attacks etc, were subsequently tested as a matter of course and turned up positive.

Duh.

calli
calli
January 3, 2022 8:39 am

He’s decided to tell the truth now, has he?

The polls must be really bad.

calli
calli
January 3, 2022 8:41 am

There is a bit too much of people turning on each other.

The spectre of Lavatory Rodeo.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
January 3, 2022 8:43 am

Heh.
I just rang “The Oz” to cancel my subscription.
My call was important to them, but cancellations have a 52 minute wait time.
Perhaps I’m not the only one.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 3, 2022 8:44 am

Boambee John at 8:05

Yet Nick Cater lacked the nous (or the moral courage() to call out the obvious lie behind the OPH arson attack.

People like Carter should be cut some slack. Working in a public forum is a bit different from lobbing rocks on what is, let’s face it, a largely unread albeit public forum. On the whole he does a solid job.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 3, 2022 8:47 am

The polls must be really bad.

Nothing like private polling in the run up to an election to get a pollie’s attention.

calli
calli
January 3, 2022 8:50 am

Does Morrison honestly think that by telling us the truth about hospitalisations now that we will forget his silence over the past two years?

The guy’s deluded.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
January 3, 2022 8:51 am

rosie says:
January 2, 2022 at 11:21 pm
I brought Ancillary Justice by Ann Leckie to read while here, a couple of pages in, I’ve read it before.

Since you are in Italy, get a couple of Donna Leon’s Commissario Brunetti novels.

bespoke
bespoke
January 3, 2022 8:51 am

Diverse backgrounds dominated with high achievers and motivations ranging from a need to voice genuine frustrations to it being just an excuse for social interactions.

Clashes are unavoidable.

calli
calli
January 3, 2022 8:53 am

And that doesn’t excluded that thing, Albanese.

He knew too, but kept schtumm. No good coming clean now either. He could have run an effective opposition and called off his Premier attack dogs but decided not to for political gain. He still hasn’t tapped them on the shoulder, especially that creature over in WA.

Mongrel.

Indolent
Indolent
January 3, 2022 8:53 am
calli
calli
January 3, 2022 8:55 am

excluded = excuse

lotocoti
lotocoti
January 3, 2022 8:55 am

the majority of Covid cases …

A bit different to the sacred NHS.

More than 11,000 people who died from Covid probably caught the deadly virus while in hospital for other reasons, it has emerged.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 3, 2022 8:55 am

We live in a time of scientific and political absolutism. Centralised power and influence focussed on controlling the individual to achieve grand illusions of an ordered and orderable world.
The bible said god created man in his own image. We are currently trying create god in ours.

The irony is the scientific (eg. climate rubbish) and political (ie. socialism) stuff are both wrong. So they are using fake doctrines to erect a fake god. Truly God gives people who reject Him a powerful delusion.

rickw
rickw
January 3, 2022 8:57 am

Government and Police, everyone has had enough of your shit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYftHr5Y2k0

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 3, 2022 9:00 am

‘while in hospital for other reasons’

A hospital-borne infection? Nooooooo.

Hospitals are sparkly clean and pristine at all times with no infection sources in them whatsoever. You can tell because all the nurses and ICU doctors have time to choreograph, rehearse, produce, edit and distribute group dancing clips when they’re not screeching about not getting enough recognition for being frontline heroes.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 3, 2022 9:00 am

calli

Does Morrison honestly think that by telling us the truth about hospitalisations now that we will forget his silence over the past two years?

Treating voters like goldfish works. Nine times out of ten it would be right. Don’t underestimate breakfast television- it gave us KRuddy.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 3, 2022 9:03 am

Courtesy of Teh Webs:

Q: Why are the Chinese no good at cricket?
A: They ate all the bats.

Cassie of Sydney
January 3, 2022 9:05 am

“Does Morrison honestly think that by telling us the truth about hospitalisations now that we will forget his silence over the past two years?

The guy’s deluded.”

Agree. I don’t know what others think but when I see Scumbag on tv or I hear his voice I feel physically sick. This intellectual cretin has spent the last twenty months deliberately fomenting and stoking Covid porn, he refused to take on the states over border closures, he said NOTHING about what ensued in Victoria under that criminal Andrews….he sided with Labor and the Greens against his own….Craig Kelly and George Christensen, he jumped on the Brittaneeee sexual assault bandwagon and I can go on and on and on with other examples of his failures. And please note his silence, once again, on the cultural front….Scumbag has said NOTHING about the arson attack on old Parliament House. I don’t even think Malturd would have remained silent over the arson.

I loathe the man.

As for UAP/PHON/Lib Dems….I will park my vote with the Liberal Democrats in the forthcoming election. I’ve joined the party, to me the Lib Dems are now the only party that bears any resemblance to the party that Menzies set up in 1944. The Lib Dems actually believe in free speech, in individual liberty, in small and medium sized businesses, in FREEDOM. Even though I don’t reside in Victoria I admire Limbrick and Quilty…they have been and are the only opposition in that state.

calli
calli
January 3, 2022 9:08 am

That slug Krudd wasn’t known to most Australians. They could manufacture an image that was difficult to shatter, right up until he got to the Lodge.

We’ve had two solid years of Morrison’s bulldust and ghastly behaviour by state premiers. Yes, I still see people clinging to their masks and restrictions like life preservers, and it may well be that they will keep their delusion intact rather than face the terrible truth.

And the truth will out. And when it does, the anger needs to be directed at the liars, not the truth tellers. Because that’s still a real possibility.

rickw
rickw
January 3, 2022 9:09 am

So Cats what is happening?

There is something up with these vaccinations. All vaccinations I’ve had resulted in non existent to mild symptoms with short duration. The injuries and the illness post these vaccinations would seem to indicate that the science is not sorted.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 3, 2022 9:10 am

Never forget. SloMo gave us Lara Bingle.

Think about that.

calli
calli
January 3, 2022 9:12 am

For Knuckles.

H/t WIP

P
P
January 3, 2022 9:13 am

We live in a time of scientific and political absolutism. Centralised power and influence focussed on controlling the individual to achieve grand illusions of an ordered and orderable world.
The bible said god created man in his own image. We are currently trying create god in ours.

From First Things

Solzhenitsyn famously defined the principal trait of the twentieth century in four words: “Men have forgotten God.” So far, the twenty-first century might be summarized in six: Men are at war with God. Awakened from agnostic slumber by new forms of temptation, chiefly the sexual revolution, humanity is at war with God over a question that reaches back to the beginning of time: Who, exactly, should have power over creation?

Christianity and Judaism teach that the answer is “God.” The ­culture dominant in the West today teaches the opposite.

So let us witness as best we can to the truth that humanity’s problem today is not with creation. It’s rather with interference in that creation by an ongoing revolutionary experiment—one that sweat and prayer and grace may yet turn around.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 3, 2022 9:15 am

calli – don’t disagree but simply doubt it will happen. Can you name the last time a politician was held accountable for a decision or policy position? Would it be the teddy bear guy in the 80s?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 3, 2022 9:19 am

Bear.

I hold Lara Bingle responsible for the disappearance of the greatest Australian Test opener since Hayden. I speak, of course, of Simon Katich.

Tough. Technique perfectly suited to the new rock. Brilliant under the lid at short leg. A team man.

Should have been knighted for putting the chicken on that ponce Michael Clarke when the simpering git wanted to sing the team victory song super quick after a Test win because he wanted to piss off and buy hair product with the stupid mole, but was sacked instead.

A national disgrace.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
January 3, 2022 9:21 am

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:
January 3, 2022 at 7:43 am
I still object to Johanna’s intrusive doxxing attempts some seven or more years ago when Hairy was still working in a highly public position in a major restructuring role drawing leftist media attention at the time. A sensitive thing.

Lizzie, you write well and entertainingly. Your views resonate with many at The Cat. Lots of your content is interesting.
You did however open the door to value judgements about your personal life by being so explicit in your descriptions of your life and loves. As the kids say, you put yourself out there. Yes, you are just a keyboard troubadour who exists in pixel form and only for some who read here are you a In Real Life person.
The biggest issue to me is the multiple hints you gave about your life pre-retirement and your expectation those hints would not be of interest to anyone.
You could have been constructing a fake on-line persona or you could have been proudly describing your interesting life. Either way, you went public with a pretty fair summary of your early life and current situation. From memory, you gave a lot of detail about the First Husband, Hairy’s job and expertise and your own lifestyle.

Surely you realised the potential for that level of exposure to stimulate further interest?

TL:DR – keep posting here and scroll negative responses. This is only a blog so don’t take any feedback personally.

rickw
rickw
January 3, 2022 9:22 am

ffs, you’re not crook but yr armed with antibiotics from home
just in case

fucking loon

I travel with basic first aid, some antibiotics and had been thinking about some DIY dental gear. But travel was more typically to islands and PNG.

Baba
Baba
January 3, 2022 9:23 am

Old School Conservativesays:
January 3, 2022 at 8:43 am
Heh.
I just rang “The Oz” to cancel my subscription.
My call was important to them, but cancellations have a 52 minute wait time.
Perhaps I’m not the only one.

“Your call is important to us. Please stay on the line until your call is no longer important to you.”

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 3, 2022 9:24 am

The Lieborals election campaign should be interesting. Listening to some old Roy & HG. Roy (a Liar fan) was laughing about the $7.5bn Beazley Black Hole. He’s right though.

I expect Fraudenberg will run KRuddy’s “We saved you from the GFC” line.

calli
calli
January 3, 2022 9:24 am

Howard and WorkChoices?
Hewson and the Birthday Cake?
Whitlam and Everything?

Morrison and the National Cabinet sounds just about right.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 3, 2022 9:27 am

KD – that may have been the point where hair product became an essential part of your cricket kit. You’re not wrong.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
January 3, 2022 9:31 am

Nick Cater also missed writing about the pre-fire activity of the protestors in shepherding the police away from the front door and forcing them into a side room, away from the action.
However, the enemy of good is perfect and Cater did an otherwise great job.

Tom
Tom
January 3, 2022 9:32 am

Does Morrison honestly think that by telling us the truth about hospitalisations now that we will forget his silence over the past two years? The guy’s deluded.

Morrison’s retail politics formula is to do everything that those who’ll never vote for him want and treat your supporters like idiots (the leftard method). He’s daring them to vote for Albo. He may well get his wish as there’s little difference n the outcome.

Top Ender
Top Ender
January 3, 2022 9:32 am

Morrison will get back in because:

a. there are too many Karens around who in their state of panic won’t change horses mid-stream
b. Albo and Co have not much in policies
c. Albo comes across as a loud sleaze

lotocoti
lotocoti
January 3, 2022 9:34 am

when they’re not screeching about not getting enough recognition for being frontline heroes.

Not all frontline heroes wear scrubs in the NHS.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
January 3, 2022 9:36 am

Can’t believe I’m missing the pompous old git.

Real Deal, you could cure your sadness by visiting his (presumably still existing) own blog.
Two great outcomes – he stays away from here and you get over your “absence makes the heart grow fonder” illness.

Pogria
Pogria
January 3, 2022 9:39 am

HAPPY BIRTHDAY SHATTTERZ!!!!!

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 3, 2022 9:48 am

ScoMo needs to sideline the state premiers.
There’s a few options on how do to that.
But takes balls, which he doesn’t have.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 3, 2022 9:50 am

‘1966 REPORT LEAKED EVERYTHING’

Everything except the replicating metal nanobots able to picked up by airport scanning. Seriously.

Have a look at the commentary by those in furious agreement with it. They make Bird look like Simon Wiesenthal.

It all goes back to the Joos, who have been orchestrating this exact circumstance since Abraham. Apparently.

It is exactly this sort of shit that makes legitimate opposition dismissed and branded L for Lunatic.

JC
JC
January 3, 2022 9:50 am

rickw says:
January 3, 2022 at 9:09 am

So Cats what is happening?

There is something up with these vaccinations. All vaccinations I’ve had resulted in non existent to mild symptoms with short duration. The injuries and the illness post these vaccinations would seem to indicate that the science is not sorted.

The thing that’s really shocked me about medical science during the past two years is just how little we know about pandemics/viruses. It’s actually mind-boggling in a way. Pandemics have been the scourge of human civilization for all of recorded history. Possibly a third or much more of human population was wiped off the map with the black death several hundred years ago. This area of medical science ought to be the most developed if not from a perspective of immediate cures, but at least how to deal with them quickly. We know almost nothing. Our knowledge in this area is truly abysmal.

We’re just not as good as thought we were.

bespoke
bespoke
January 3, 2022 9:52 am

Numberwang was a classic example of projection.

Clamed to hate capitalism but exploited crony capitalism.
Thought he was sympathetic to the underdog but had contempt for them at the same time.
Self-absorbed about his experiences with no consideration to other with similar would rather put it behind them or give space to those that wish to share.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 3, 2022 9:53 am

We’re just not as good as thought we were.

If you read zero hedge more, you’d be well aware of this.

Cassie of Sydney
January 3, 2022 9:55 am

“Morrison’s retail politics formula is to do everything that those who’ll never vote for him want and treat your supporters like idiots (the leftard method). He’s daring them to vote for Albo. He may well get his wish as there’s little difference n the outcome.”

Yep…that’s been the Liberal way since Turdbull, fellate your enemies, trash your supporters.

Pogria
Pogria
January 3, 2022 9:55 am

oops! Shatterzzz, I forgot to sing HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

Rabz
January 3, 2022 9:56 am

Goose Morristeen is the worst Australian PM ever, with daylight second. No one even comes close to the inexcusable and utterly unnecessary destruction that imbecile has wreaked on this nation – and we truly are talking a rogues gallery of vile incompetent vainglorious quislings.

My list would be as follows (from 1972 onwards):

Morristeen

Daylight

Whitlam
Gillard
Rudd
Keating
Fraser
Howard
Hawke
Abbott
Turnbuckle

Yes, Turnbuckle is last, as he was too gutless to actually implement any significant policies. We were in a holding pattern the entire time he was PM, gripped by his paralysis. Yes, some of his ideas were ridiculous, but he was never one to adhere like a limpet to the latest policy brain fart.

Anyway, just trying to stimulate some discussion, Cats. Feel free to have at it.

Cassie of Sydney
January 3, 2022 9:59 am

“Anyway, just trying to stimulate some discussion, Cats. Feel free to have at it.”

I think your list is pretty accurate…although I’ll say this about Howard, he didn’t shy away from cultural battles.

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 3, 2022 10:01 am

OSC

However, the enemy of good is perfect and Cater did an otherwise great job.

AS the Soviet Admiral Gorshkov was said to advise his subordinates during his expansion of the Soviet Navy in the 1960s and 1970s, “Comrades, best is the enemy of good enough”.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 3, 2022 10:02 am

Yes, some of his ideas were ridiculous, but he was never one to adhere like a limpet to the latest policy brain fart.

Waffleworth’s commitment to tax reform almost lasted 24 hours. His laziness was a virtue.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 3, 2022 10:04 am

rosiesays:

January 2, 2022 at 10:49 pm

Also cacio e pepe is too rich and salty for me.

I should have mentioned the rich and salty bit.

JC
JC
January 3, 2022 10:05 am

Also cacio e pepe is too rich and salty for me.

I keep seeing this posted. What the hell is it?

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 3, 2022 10:05 am

Howard was a big spending Conservative in the old school. No small government for him.

Aaron
Aaron
January 3, 2022 10:10 am

Not nanobots, but still not a great thing.

Unless you are iron dificient.

That’s not a nanobots, it’s just some stainless steel particles.

Bons
January 3, 2022 10:10 am

When freedom arrives, turret heads may like to consider a couple of first class but not well known museums in France and UK.
Visit the French one first before they finally get the merds and lock us out.
Ecole de Cavalerie at Saumur, Loire. Brilliantly done as only French museums can be. Exotic kit going back centuries. Satisfy your metal fetishes garnished with outstanding food and Loire scenery/history.
Left of field (apalling term) is the ground forces museum as part of the Air Museum at Duxford Cambridgeshire. Jammed in, but full of developmental and super high tech kit. Usual terrible Pommy Cafe, but a great pub outside the main gate. Aeroplanes and tanks together – boys passion overload.

Rabz
January 3, 2022 10:11 am

Waffleworth’s commitment to tax reform almost lasted 24 hours. His laziness was a virtue.

See for example, his unstinting commitment to election campaigning, which very nearly resulted in his government being consigned to electoral oblivion in 2016.

JC
JC
January 3, 2022 10:11 am

Bern

It would be impossible to figure the trillions the West has spent on public health since the Spanish flu, which was when these bureaucracies were put together. The result has been a complete failure with lies and every bullshit thrown at the public. Rather than take stock, with the recognition these monstrosities have been a complete failure while moving towards the objective of remaking them in a different form, we’re giving them oven more power. They’ve been a complete disaster.

calli
calli
January 3, 2022 10:14 am

cacio e pepe

Fancy mac and cheese.

JC
JC
January 3, 2022 10:18 am

H B Bear says:
January 3, 2022 at 10:05 am

Howard was a big spending Conservative in the old school. No small government for him.

Towards the last years of his government he was, but in a relative sense… relative not, fucking absolute… he was a great PM. He repaid the debt accrued by the previous bunch of losers – Hawke and Keating. He instigated some very decent economic reforms such as scuttling the absurdities of our sales tax crap and repackaged the whole thing as the GST with the good intention of giving it back to the states. And of course there was Workchoices. Workchoices was the most fundamental reform we have seen of the labor market since the Harvester case. Throwing shit at Howard is bullshit. Bear, you take that all back and beg forgiveness.

Indolent
Indolent
January 3, 2022 10:27 am

Have a look at the commentary by those in furious agreement with it.

This 150 page report on the United Nations by Edward Griffin was linked in one of the comments.

The Fearful Master – A Second Look at the United Nations

Indolent
Indolent
January 3, 2022 10:27 am
H B Bear
H B Bear
January 3, 2022 10:30 am

Compared to what has come since, Howard was a giant. I got dragged along to a breakfast thing he did in Perth. He was more impressive in person. Needed to work on his succession planning.

JC
JC
January 3, 2022 10:32 am

Needed to work on his succession planning.

Yep, Costello would have been head and shoulders above any of the riff raff that’s showed up since.

Top Ender
Top Ender
January 3, 2022 10:32 am

Malcolm Fraser was one of the worst.

At one stage IIRR he had control of both the House of Reps AND the Senate. Could have done anything he wanted. The opportunity to reform the ABC – much better than it is now, but still pandering to causes – was there; as was the ability to stop the ridiculous duplication of services at federal and state level – and so much more. (Why do we have eight separate driver licence authorities, for example, in a country of 26 million?)

But instead he did nothing. Name one useful achievement of the Fraser government….

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
January 3, 2022 10:35 am

Knuckles, Monty is a Ranga, so young and naive. Where have I heard that before? Is Monty the Lying Slapper? I used to be a Ranga from a long line of Rangas. I doubt I have a soul, too busy being concerned about the here and now than the hereafter. I can never make up for the mistakes in the past but would I be here now if I hadn’t? I’ll be happy not repeating the same mistakes and besides repentance doesn’t cut it for me.

bespoke
bespoke
January 3, 2022 10:37 am

Yep, Costello would have been head and shoulders above any of the riff raff that’s showed up since.

Possibly but hasn’t shown much resistance to the wokeness since.

Cassie of Sydney
January 3, 2022 10:38 am

“Top Endersays:
January 3, 2022 at 10:32 am”

I agree….but remember how Howard won both houses in 2004….and he did nothing….particularly about their ABC. It was an opportunity lost and it won’t ever be repeated again.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 3, 2022 10:38 am

I’m not sure to what extent Hawke/Keating we’re responsible for the economic progress of the period v just being in office when it occurred. It was the era of Thatcher and Reagan. It could not be argued Maggie did more of the heavy lifting.

Cassie of Sydney
January 3, 2022 10:40 am

Look, given what we’ve lived under since 2007, I would do anything to resurrect a Liberal leader and Liberal government like Howard.

To me the biggest disappointment of recent years was Tony Abbott.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 3, 2022 10:40 am

The UN is now a bunch of actual Nazis headed by a guy who used to be head of Socialist International.

Caroline Glick: The escalating international war against Israel (2 Jan)

At the U.N. General Assembly last month, a large majority of member nations voted to lavishly fund a permanent inquisition against the Jewish state. The member states funded the operation of an “ongoing independent, international commission of inquiry” against Israel.

The commission, run by outspoken haters of Israel with long records of demonizing it and its people, was formed by the U.N. Human Rights Council in a special session in May. Its purpose is to deny and reject Israel’s right to exist, its right to self-defense, its right to enforce its laws and its citizens’ rights to their properties and to their very lives.

The Council’s decision to form its new permanent inquisition constitutes an unprecedented escalation of the political war the United Nations has been waging against Israel for the past 50 years.

Meanwhile the UN HRC never bothers to say anything about persecution of Jewish people and Christians.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 3, 2022 10:43 am

Areff once compared it to chooks in a chook-pen as the pecking order reaches its nadir. Not long after that Sinc temporarily closed down the blog.

For Christ’s sake, Lizzie, stop making yourself the centre of everything.
That little hiatus was driven by _eggly and your new bestie, Arky, going hammer and tongs for 48 hours straight, culminating in threats of physical violence.
It had zero to do with you.
Faulty pulled exactly the same stunt.
Blaming the “Great Shutdown” on the Gang of Four (which numbered ten but excluded the true culprits).
Don’t be a Faulty.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 3, 2022 10:46 am

Costello is destined to be one of the great “What Ifs” of Australian politics. Agreed, his chairmanship at Nine hasn’t been filled with promise and the Future Fund, like most fundies, has had a pretty easy time of it of late. His work on Dollar Sweets can’t be written off though but it is a long time ago now. That was clearly Howard’s greatest failing.

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 3, 2022 10:50 am

His work on Dollar Sweets can’t be written off though but it is a long time ago now.

Bullshit.
Dollar Sweets went broke anyway, it was a scam.

johanna
johanna
January 3, 2022 10:50 am

It’s possible that Costello would have been a good PM, but unlikely IMHO, having worked up close and personal with that government for several years.

He was an excellent Parliamentary performer, and generally talked a good talk. But he was lazy, and his staff and Treasury did all the hard graft. Since he was a pretty good people-picker, that covered up many of his shortcomings, but a PM needs more than that to succeed.

He didn’t have a lot of interest in big picture issues, although he talked about them sometimes. Other Ministers like Reith and Alston actually went into battle, as did Howard, while Costello floated above most of the hand to hand stuff needed to really engage the enemy.

His colleagues knew all this, and that’s why he never got the support required to topple Howard.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 3, 2022 10:52 am

To me the biggest disappointment of recent years was Tony Abbott.

I think the magnitude of the oppositional forces Abbott was facing are now apparent. Arguably one of the roles of a leader is to overcome them. I am not sure it is fair to hold Abbott to account for being unable to do so.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
January 3, 2022 10:53 am

[Peeks around the door] Is it SAFE to come in now?
Have all the bad people gone?

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 3, 2022 10:53 am

Bear attacks the Liberal Party from the Right, but he’s a Labor Party shill.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 3, 2022 10:54 am

Bullshit

Thanks for your endorsement Groogs. This is becoming a habit of yours little buddy.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
January 3, 2022 10:55 am

Better than an updick HB.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
January 3, 2022 10:58 am

Gang of Four (which numbered ten …

Do you have to get Tatts before you can join?

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 3, 2022 11:05 am

johanna at 10:50 – Costello was certainly unproven outside his role as Treasurer. No doubt Howard was happy to keep it that way.

Howard was careful to keep a number of potential successors in the mix – for obvious reasons. History will show when given the opportunity to lead (albeit in Opposition) Costello ducked it. The same cannot be said of Howard during the Howard/Peacock years.

Pogria
Pogria
January 3, 2022 11:07 am

[Peeks around the door] Is it SAFE to come in now?
Have all the bad people gone?

I’ve been waiting for you”.

mwah hah hah hah

Struth
January 3, 2022 11:09 am

So Cats what is happening?

It’s all worth it Min….
You may have caught asymptomatic covid.
FMD.
A few more boosters and you won’t feel a thing!
Literally.
How many boosters are the self declared doubled jabbed going to submit to?

“Consult your doctor when the time comes”, as one bright spark here tried to deflect with.
NB. Answering not forced or compulsory in any way.
No tears please.
Better get over and chuck three coins in a fountain before the good Nazi tick turns red, or prepare your will….

Either way, jabbing yourself to death to comply is probably not the most intelligent thing you can do. Maybe those that have put themselves in this situation might want to think twice about questioning the intellegence of others.
Will some claim they fear flurovid, omnisniffles or flucon mark 3 when it arrives?
Of course they will.
You don’t want to be fearing getting a slight headache……….or sneeze once.
Getting endless boosters are all worth it…you know safety and all that.

Bill P
Bill P
January 3, 2022 11:10 am

ricw
been thinking about some DIY dental gear.
Multigrips?

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 3, 2022 11:13 am

Let’s revisit Dollar Sweets:
it was a tiny business, going broke, when the Food Preservers Union put a picket on it’s entrance.
In rode Costello to save the day in the Courts, Dollar Sweets went broke a week later, on the strength of that Costello got preselection for the Liberals Safest Seat, even tho he had been an ALP Office Holder, and no one ever heard of the Food Preservers Union again.
Pretty neat, eh?
Plus, that Safe Seat is now a Marginal likely to fall to the Greens.

rickw
rickw
January 3, 2022 11:15 am

ricw
been thinking about some DIY dental gear.
Multigrips?

Yep, pretty much tools and heavy duty pain killers plus emergency filling compound.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 3, 2022 11:16 am

To me the biggest disappointment of recent years was Tony Abbott.

Costello is destined to be one of the great “What Ifs” of Australian politics.

Abbott and Costello were a laugh a minute.
Jokes and slapstick 24/7. That onion, and the one for the country!
Better than RGR though, who were awful.

bespoke
bespoke
January 3, 2022 11:18 am

Ill do it for ya rickw.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
January 3, 2022 11:18 am

Rabz’ List is an interesting kick off point – but spread over 50 years, you end up with historic problems of scope and scale that makes comparison difficult.

While I’d probably have Morrison at the top of the shit list for the past 15 years, it’s harder to compare any of the recent duds with monsters like Whitlam and Fraser – who got Big Government up and running.

Or with the Hawke/Keating and Howard governments who arguably managed to do some good while setting the scene for globalist corporatist Australia.

The recent crop – RGR, Abbott, Trumble, and Moron – have really only distinguished themselves by paddling in the shallows and extending BigGuv and CoproState into our everyday lives. With bravura political and administrative incompetence.

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 3, 2022 11:21 am

That Neilsen commentary at 1:33pm yesterday now has 39 upticks.

local oaf
January 3, 2022 11:22 am

Cassie of Sydney says:
January 3, 2022 at 10:40 am

Look, given what we’ve lived under since 2007, I would do anything to resurrect a Liberal leader and Liberal government like Howard.

Howard was good on culture and talking past the MSM directly to the real people.

He was lucky in that he never had to deal with the big tech enable and curated woke mobs of today.
Youtube, Twitter and the rest were in their infancy or yet to exist, Howard never even had to deal with same sex marriage let alone today’s screeching trans activists, extinction rebellion gluebois, year zero fanatics, burn down Australia fruitloops, etc.

I don’t think any of today’s “conservative” Australian politicians have any idea of how to deal with this sort attack on them and the rest of us.

Roger
Roger
January 3, 2022 11:26 am

Howard’s government was the worst we’ve been subjected to in recent decades and that’s precisely because they had a modicum of competence, unlike those since. Their one saving grace amidst an array of attacks on the property rights of Australian citizens and disastrous military misadventures abroad was budgetary reform, which now counts for nothing.

miltonf
miltonf
January 3, 2022 11:28 am

I don’t think any of today’s “conservative” Australian politicians have any idea of how to deal with this sort attack on them and the rest of us.

Yes and it is world wide, coordinated marxist attack on the west.

miltonf
miltonf
January 3, 2022 11:30 am

The recent crop – RGR, Abbott, Trumble, and Moron – have really only distinguished themselves by paddling in the shallows and extending BigGuv and CoproState into our everyday lives. With bravura political and administrative incompetence.

Yes Abbot put up taxes and started archiving people’s metadata.

bespoke
bespoke
January 3, 2022 11:32 am

disastrous military misadventures

I can’t get to critical of Howard for that since I was a supporter for it at the time, Roger.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 3, 2022 11:33 am

miltonf- yes the march through the institutions is beginning to feel like the siege of Leningrad.

miltonf
miltonf
January 3, 2022 11:34 am

Their one saving grace amidst an array of attacks on the property rights of Australian citizens and disastrous military misadventures abroad was budgetary reform, which now counts for nothing.

Absolutely spot on Roger. If you manage to achieve a budgetary surplus don’t leave a pile of cash for your successors to spend. Cut taxes.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 3, 2022 11:35 am

Winning wars became quite unfavourable after WWII.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
January 3, 2022 11:38 am

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bearesays:
January 3, 2022 at 7:43 am

Let’s re-roll the tape. It started with…
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bearesays:
January 2, 2022 at 8:56 pm
This was when she was doing her utmost to DOXX ME at a time when such a thing could have been very damaging to my husband Hairy, who was at that time a very public figure in a key role where my identity as his wife would draw unwanted leftist media attention to him and make his difficult job much harder.

Then we got…

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bearesays:
January 3, 2022 at 12:46 am
If I was doxxed by Johanna through her prying into my first husband’s name then as he was well-known as married to me and in some circles it is known that I then married Hairy, this WOULD doxx Hairy.

Now…

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bearesays:
January 3, 2022 at 7:43 am
I still object to Johanna’s intrusive doxxing attempts some seven or more years ago when Hairy was still working in a highly public position in a major restructuring role drawing leftist media attention at the time. A sensitive thing.

None of this makes any sense. If he was a “very public figure” how could he be “doxxed”? Was there some secret in normal life about your actual identity, or the fact you’d been married before to whoever it was? What was the “leftist media” supposed to say when the great revelation occurred:
“News flash: we can report exclusively that the wife of very public figure [Hairy] uses a pseudonym online.”
Why were they, or anyone else for that matter, supposed to care?

And why would Johanna need to doxx him anyway? You’ve told us, just going on pure memory alone, that he’s Irish, Cambridge resident, living in Vaucluse, close to turning 70, married to someone who had been married before, and was a “very public figure” in relation to some restructuring that “seven or more years ago” attracted “leftist media” attention. Do you really think that anyone who cared couldn’t track him down with that much info?

JC
JC
January 3, 2022 11:42 am

But instead he did nothing. Name one useful achievement of the Fraser government….

Losing the election to Hawke. The family are greens supporters and he was too before he croaked it. He was terrible.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
January 3, 2022 11:42 am

Understand because it is The Australian but Cater pulled punches. The rabble in the shanty said it wasn’t us, the police and museum said it was planned with the shanty town organisers. Big inconsistency that not even right of centre journalists are showing interest in. Second no arrests still? Why not, the footage is plain to see the faces of those stacking up kindling, spreading liquids around and covering up CCTV. Lastly, if police were corralled into a side door that is even more damning of the AFP hierarchy, no public order squad? Why is that question not being asked of the comissioner? Personally I reckon we are being sold down the river with negotiations behind the scenes.

Local oaf, Abbott started with laws against restrictive lawfare on anyone not directly affected by a project (such as a mine). I believe he also wanted to go further in opening up individuals and NGO’s to being sued for losses they cause. Turnbull rolled him and quickly knocked it on the head. The conservatives could quite easily resurrect these provisions to throw a spanner in Extinction Rebellions spokes. Might not help commuters in Flinders st but Newcastle Coal Terminal, don’t think they would be stopping trains with flow on effects of 10’s of thousands of dollars standby time in contracts, put it that way.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 3, 2022 11:42 am

local oaf

I don’t think any of today’s “conservative” Australian politicians have any idea of how to deal with this sort attack on them and the rest of us

That may be true. I would be happy just to see them try for once.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
January 3, 2022 11:43 am

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bearesays:
January 2, 2022 at 7:31 pm
Less than 15 minutes after having instantly assumed, totally wrongly, that a two word blog comment was ALL ABOUT HER!!!!

Arrant nonsense, Timothy Neilson.

Which bit?
Are you saying it wasn’t less than 15 minutes?
Are you saying you didn’t instantly assume?
Are you saying you weren’t totally wrong?
Are you saying it wasn’t a two word blog comment?
Are you saying you weren’t assuming it was all about you?

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
January 3, 2022 11:44 am

(Why do we have eight separate driver licence authorities, for example, in a country of 26 million?)

Because, this one time, the Constitution is being followed.
Not a Federal responsibility and no drive (heh) for co-ordinated action.

bespoke
bespoke
January 3, 2022 11:46 am

H B Bearsays:
January 3, 2022 at 11:35 am
Winning wars became quite unfavourable after WWII.

That required total devastation today all it takes is a ‘nice’ photo to prevent deportation of aliens.

miltonf
miltonf
January 3, 2022 11:46 am

I can’t get to critical of Howard for that since I was a supporter for it at the time, Roger.

It was like watching a slow motion car crash, the geeing up by the murdoch press, Colon Powell, bLAIR, dudya and hoWARd. Oh no NOT again. Oh yes.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
January 3, 2022 11:48 am

A bit different to the sacred NHS.

More than 11,000 people who died from Covid probably caught the deadly virus while in hospital for other reasons, it has emerged.

My Sister’s fil was one.
A tough, self-reliant 92, he woke up one morning feeling a bit shit with weakness down one arm, cooked himself breakfast, drove to the quack’s, was diagnosed with a possible stroke, and delivered into the jaws of the NHS.

A minor stroke, so clot busters and OT. Doing well, looking at discharge, until he contracted Covid from someone within the system.

He was instantly parcelled up like radioactive waste and isolated in a Covid ward. Where, because only slightly unwell, he was largely ignored by the medical staff who were in full ‘self-protection mode’, clustering around weepy overwrought colleagues.

With no access to his stroke team, he had no further follow up for his underlying medical problem, until his brain exploded one afternoon.
A bit late then.

And yes, Covid on the death certificate.

mc
mc
January 3, 2022 11:48 am

All this comparing of prime ministers is a bit pointless. I can guarantee that any one looking for a messiah in Australian (or any) politics will be bitterly disappointed.

I think disruption is the best we can hope for and maybe some Italian parliament type fiasco for a couple of decades while the rest of us get on with life.

JC
JC
January 3, 2022 11:49 am

Neilson

Stop getting involved in domestic squabbles. Talk about doing the Lord’s work as a tax attorney, which is your single attribute.. but a good one.

miltonf
miltonf
January 3, 2022 11:53 am

Truth is Simon Crean was right when he said to the troops I don’t think you should be going.

JC
JC
January 3, 2022 11:54 am

I can’t believe it. We have someone who is the equivalent of a cardinal in economic matters – a tax lawyer, and he’s insinuating himself in blog stoushes. Neilson, what the fuck are you thinking?

Miss Anthropist
Miss Anthropist
January 3, 2022 11:55 am

OMG.
Was off yesterday as I was room changed again and had my internet plugged into a bum socket.
First thing I see it more asinine squabbling about people being horrid to them on the net.
While I can’t deny some would find this amusing (me for one) it sort of makes this blog, a cornucopia of knowledge, seem rather lightweight..
I would deem it a personal favour if all of those involved would act their ages and give it a rest.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
January 3, 2022 12:01 pm

and give it a rest…

No way!
I want to see a foot on the throat, fight to the death!
Get it out of your system. To the victor the spoils.

Zatara
Zatara
January 3, 2022 12:02 pm

Bruce of Newcastle says:
January 3, 2022 at 10:40 am

Yep, the new and improved anti-Israel kangaroo court of no importance could run wild for about a year, and I hope that they do.

Because after the US mid-term elections reality sets in and the US taxpayer money that funds about 1/3 of the UN budget dries up.

So go ahead kiddies. Enjoy yourself. But keep your CVs updated and don’t sign any long-term leases in NYC.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
January 3, 2022 12:02 pm

my internet plugged into a bum socket

phrasing

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
January 3, 2022 12:03 pm

On Trumble:

Yes, some of his ideas were ridiculous, but he was never one to adhere like a limpet to the latest policy brain fart.

This is true.
Think Jobson Grothe and “unleash your inner revolutionary”. The slogans were hardly dry before he was onto the next amusing diversion.

JC
JC
January 3, 2022 12:04 pm

Great idea.

A male serial killer who targeted women, claiming to have killed nine, is now housed in a women’s prison after being transgender.
“Donna Perry,” born Douglas, has been transferred to the Washington Correctional Center for Women under new laws that allow gender self-identification.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
January 3, 2022 12:07 pm

I’m biased, but I still think Tony Abbott was good for Australia.
To quote an unbiased source (his autobiography)
In his time as PM, the carbon tax and mining tax were repealed, free trade agreements were finalised with China, Japan and Korea; the people smuggling trade from Indonesia to Australia was halted; Australia became the second largest military contributor to the US-led campaign against Islamic State in Iraq; the biggest federally-funded infrastructure program in Australian history commenced; and Australia hosted the G20 meeting of global leaders in Brisbane in November 2014.
In 2014, and again in 2015, he spent a week running the government from a remote indigenous community.
As opposition leader at the 2010 election, he reduced a first-term Labor government to minority status before comprehensively winning the 2013 election.
Since 1998, he has convened the Pollie Pedal annual charity bike ride which has raised nearly $7 million for organisations such as Soldier On, Carers Australia, and other charities. He still does surf patrols with the Queenscliff Surf Life Saving Club and serves as a Deputy Captain with the Davidson Rural Fire Brigade.

If only more LNP PMs had been as poor as Abbott.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
January 3, 2022 12:12 pm

OCO also note the enemies of Abbott.
Anyone so despised by the left, can’t be all bad.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
January 3, 2022 12:14 pm

It’s amusing to play with the hypothetical scenario of Abbott being funded by a huge war chest, stands against Zali and wins Warringah in a landslide, and goes on to lead the LNP with stronger right-wing policies that attract many…many voters.
His public utterances recently seem to indicate a return to his more conservative roots.

rosie
rosie
January 3, 2022 12:20 pm

True calli
I was thinking it would be better with a less overpowering cheese.
And white pepper.

MatrixTransform
January 3, 2022 12:22 pm

I am not an entitled boaster, no-one who knows me thinks that

I’m sure that in real life you’re absolutely charming and it’s true that people like you often appear that way.

for somebody that isnt a boaster, you sure do like to tell everybody how you’ve been blessed with all the brains and all the words

shame that, among people you want to claim as friends, that you struggle to use your endowments for good. indeed, even for your own good

while the dick-less are upticking, they arent typing. surely, that isn’t lost on somebody as smart as yourself

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 3, 2022 12:22 pm

White pepper is for poofs.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 3, 2022 12:24 pm

For some of us, dickless upticking is all that we’ve got.

lotocoti
lotocoti
January 3, 2022 12:28 pm

Great idea.

“Donna” hurt no one and shouldn’t be held responsible for something Douglas might have done.
Apparently that’s his story and he’s sticking to it.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
January 3, 2022 12:30 pm

For some of us, dickless upticking is all that we’ve got.

I upticked you without using my dick.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 3, 2022 12:31 pm

JCsays:

January 3, 2022 at 10:05 am

Also cacio e pepe is too rich and salty for me.

I keep seeing this posted. What the hell is it?

Is Roman dish.
Spaghetti, pecorino cheese, ground black pepper.
I like it.
Rosie doesn’t.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
January 3, 2022 12:31 pm

Call that a flounce?
THIS is a dramatic exit:
Late in the third quarter, Antonio Brown stripped off his jersey and pads on the sidelines of Sunday’s Tampa Bay Buccaneers-New York Jets game. He threw some gear into the crowd. He finished by running off the field shirtless, exhorting fans to cheer as he took a shortcut through the end zone to the tunnel.
Brown appeared to simply quit on his team midway through Sunday’s game

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 3, 2022 12:33 pm

Abbott’s Election Funding appeared to dry up after his father died in 2017.
Googlin’ Wiki tells us that Dick Abbott owned the largest Orthodontic practice in Australia and he worked in the practice until he was 78.
Once the money dried up Tony was history, whether from Steggall or someone else.

JC
JC
January 3, 2022 12:35 pm

I’m biased, but I still think Tony Abbott was good for Australia.

He was intellectually inconsistent and froze in front of a camera.

Let’s not forget that this was the guy who told us we had a budget emergency but simultaneously signed on two the two most ruinous spending proposals the Lying Slapper saddled us with. These were Gonski and the NDIS while Abbott was squealing we had a budget emergency. Who could believe him? Granted, he did some decent things like the ones you mentioned and he closed down the car industry subsidy bullshit. Having closed it down, he didn’t offer the hard done by consumers the true reward of being able to purchase cheaper motor vehicles. He kept the fucking tariffs in order to placate those those feather bedded workers who cost us 50K a year in subsidies.

And then there was the camera work. How does a guy who preforms excellently in Parliament become a fucking inarticulate pussy in front of a camera. I will never be able to figure that one out. He needed to explain his position to the punters and never did.

rosie
rosie
January 3, 2022 12:37 pm

Old School
Thanks for the suggestion, have already read some of those.

JC
JC
January 3, 2022 12:37 pm

Ed, stop annoying everyone with that ridiculous drivel.

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 3, 2022 12:38 pm

Neilsen commentary at 1:33pm yesterday now showing 42 [dickless] upticks.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 3, 2022 12:41 pm

l upticked you without using my dick.

Those of us still using a mouse are giving away our ages.

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 3, 2022 12:42 pm

I’m annoying people?
You wrote this Gobbledegook:

He kept the fucking tariffs in order to placate those those feather bedded workers who cost us 50K a year in subsidies.

You’ve been listening to Dot again, haven’t you?

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 3, 2022 12:46 pm

I’ve tried it with one of of those trackpad things but I just don’t have the same control. And God knows what it looks like to others.

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
January 3, 2022 12:47 pm

incoherent rambler says:
January 3, 2022 at 12:30 pm
For some of us, dickless upticking is all that we’ve got.

I upticked you without using my dick.

IR – please, a little sensitivity… HB Bear doesn’t even have a Ken bump.

miltonf
miltonf
January 3, 2022 12:49 pm

The thing about Abbott was his own party had become such a lefty cesspit that it was only happy to use him to win an election. Again it would be interesting to know what part the NSW LP in this demise. Was Steggles to real lieboral candidate?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 3, 2022 12:49 pm

Ecole de Cavalerie at Saumur, Loire

That’s exactly the place I was thinking of, Bons. Ditto the Pegasus Bridge Museum in Normandy.

Some of the stuff at Arnhem Nijmegen I wouldn’t mind seeing, too. And the Panzer museum at Munster.

I didn’t know about the experimental stuff museum at Duxford, though. That sounds like an interesting research subject.

JC
JC
January 3, 2022 12:50 pm

Yes Ed. Close down the domestic car industry, supported by tariffs and subsidies up the wazoo. When you’ve done that keep the tariffs. That makes perfect sense to you, right? You idiot. Stop talking!

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 3, 2022 12:51 pm

I’m annoying people?

Yes, Grigory. That kinda comes with the territory of being an incompetent anklebiter with a leftist slant and a penchant for gypsum…

#TheTruthHurts

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 3, 2022 12:51 pm

Snap, JC.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 3, 2022 12:52 pm

Very interesting video from central Queensland, see RickW’s link above, where an ordinary properly calm bloke in his shopping Centre rented cafe, is standing up against police Covid intimidation. Best part for me, in addition to the customers chanting ‘leave the shop’ to the police, was that some protesters then spread out into the Centre calling on shoppers to ‘remove the masks’, that there was no risk, and to not be taken in by government propaganda.

The masked ones looked like startled Helots, hearing what they suspected might be the truth for the first time.

A sort of “Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall” moment, in a minor populist key.

Top Ender
Top Ender
January 3, 2022 12:53 pm

Four arrests…will be interesting to see their backgrounds…

The Australian Federal Police has charged a Victorian man over a fire at Old Parliament House in Canberra that authorities will allege was deliberately lit.

The 30-year-old was arrested on Sunday and has been charged with arson and damaging commonwealth property. He will front ACT Magistrates Court on Tuesday.

The blaze engulfed the facade of Old Parliament House in the Canberra suburb of Parkes on Thursday, during a smoking ceremony that is believed to have been hijacked by anti-vaccination protesters.

Footage appears to show the fire was deliberately lit, but it remains unclear why and a number of unverified claims have emerged on social media.

An official statement made by the Aboriginal Test Embassy said that the actions of protesters in conducting a smoking ceremony was “done so without the knowledge, consent or mandate of the Embassy Council and Traditional Owners responsible for the regulation of the Aboriginal Tent Embassy”.

Another three people fronted court on Sunday, with two facing charges of assaulting a frontline service provider and the third was charged with hindering a Territory official.

The AFP led a joint task force with ACT Policing to identify the protesters from body cameras worn by officers on the ground, CCTV footage from Old Parliament House and clips circulating on social media.

Anyone with information that could assist police in relation to criminal activity in the Parkes area over the past two weeks is urged to contact Crime Stoppers.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
January 3, 2022 12:53 pm

Old School Conservativesays:
January 3, 2022 at 12:07 pm
I’m biased, but I still think Tony Abbott was good for Australia.

Having got rid of RGR he was, at that time, a candidate for statues in every city and major town in Australia. Six months later he was still doing great. Then he let Hockey deliver that budget, totally lost his mojo, was thus responsible for the Mick Trumble Election Winning Machine, and didn’t start contributing again till he started to at least talk the talk again.
Compared with what was likely to have happened otherwise I’m still glad he gave it a tilt, and wouldn’t mind him coming back into the fray, but I’d keep my expectations modest.

caveman
caveman
January 3, 2022 12:53 pm

Abbott went off the rails somewhere, I swear I could remember him saying he wanted to turn Australia into an international food bowl and that he wanted to be known as an infrastructure PM.
Whaa happened?

calli
calli
January 3, 2022 12:55 pm

Whaa happened?

They started attacking his family, for a start.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 3, 2022 12:56 pm

H B Bearsays:

January 3, 2022 at 12:22 pm

White pepper is for poofs.

Damn straight.
Use white pepper and you don’t got cacio e pepe.
You got cacio e fagio.

Roger
Roger
January 3, 2022 12:57 pm

…but I’d keep my expectations modest

Applies to all ostensibly conservative Australian politicians who serve in the outer faction of the Uniparty.

Saves a lot of disappointment in the long term.

rosie
rosie
January 3, 2022 1:01 pm

Having explained I carry antibiotics after being slugged usd$ 200 for what would have cost me au$25 here, that I’m prone to bronchitis and pleurisy, which I’ve had in France, the US and New Zealand there was me thinking I was capable of self diagnosis and treatment and that was non controversial.
Not much different to my telehealth appt last July when I told the doctor I has bronchitis and he left a script at the counter to be picked up.
But no, some actual loon on the internet though it worth making demands and name calling.

JC
JC
January 3, 2022 1:02 pm

Having got rid of RGR he was, at that time, a candidate for statues in every city and major town in Australia.

Dude, a transgender donkey could have got rid of the Lying Slapper.

rosie
rosie
January 3, 2022 1:03 pm

Cacio e fagio?
That’s actionable.

rosie
rosie
January 3, 2022 1:05 pm

Monty posts on discord.
I think he has some deep and abiding objection to posting here but if you want to stoush with him, nilk’s is the place.

miltonf
miltonf
January 3, 2022 1:06 pm

Whaa happened?

They started attacking his family, for a start.

Yes. WE are not dealing with normal people we are dealing with marxist wreckers

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 3, 2022 1:06 pm

people like you

lol. Wordy old me. Literacy is now banned here?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 3, 2022 1:07 pm

rosiesays:

January 3, 2022 at 1:01 pm

Having explained I carry antibiotics after being slugged usd$ 200 for what would have cost me au$25 here, that I’m prone to bronchitis and pleurisy, which I’ve had in France, the US and New Zealand there was me thinking I was capable of self diagnosis and treatment and that was non controversial.

Well, yes.
We carry a modest medical kit with us overseas.
Quite apart from the cost, when you are on the move you can’t afford the time to be mucking around with doctors and chemists unless it is red hot urgent.

calli
calli
January 3, 2022 1:07 pm

My o/s travel kit always has a course of antibiotics included, which I never need. Until the last time, when I left it at home. And then desperately needed them.

Typical.

MatrixTransform
January 3, 2022 1:08 pm

world wide, coordinated marxist attack on the west

did youse know that into 1917 that Stalin pretty much had control of Pravda?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 3, 2022 1:08 pm

rosiesays:

January 3, 2022 at 1:03 pm

Cacio e fagio?
That’s actionable.

It’s more actionable to put white pepper in it.

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
January 3, 2022 1:10 pm

calli says:
January 3, 2022 at 1:07 pm
My o/s travel kit always has a course of antibiotics included, which I never need. Until the last time, when I left it at home. And then desperately needed them.

Like I tell the grandkids when they look at my kit sometimes – it’s better to have it & not need it than need it and not have it.

bespoke
bespoke
January 3, 2022 1:10 pm

Only use discord for other interest under another name but may visit soon.

I expect the welcome I deserve.

Woolfe
Woolfe
January 3, 2022 1:11 pm

In post 1918 war families get attacked and killed. Did that stop our forefathers fighting?

Abbott was a massive disappointment from day 1. He didn’t fight back.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 3, 2022 1:11 pm

Some of the stuff at Arnhem Nijmegen I wouldn’t mind seeing, too

The “Airborne Museum” at the Hotel Hartenstein in Arnhem is well worth a visit, as is a day spent wandering around Nijmegen. It bears out the point of view that “What happened on the Groesbeck Height had no bearing whatever on what happened at the bridge.”

rosie
rosie
January 3, 2022 1:13 pm

Sancho and Calli.
Now added to the ‘funking loon’ column.
And good point add time and inconvenience to the reasons , especially when your local language skills are confined to
Two tickets, please
A coffee please
Hello, thank you, excuse me, goodbye, have a nice day, sisters and brothers, amen.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
January 3, 2022 1:14 pm

Scott Morrison says he won’t ‘undercut’ businesses by funding free rapid antigen COVID-19 tests

Scummo stalking his way through the pre-election killing fields, playing bagpipes.

“We’ve invested hundreds of billions of dollars getting Australia through this crisis,” he said.

“We’re now at a stage of the pandemic where you can’t just make everything free, because when someone tells you they want to make something free, someone’s always going to pay for it and it will be you.”

Always alert, Therapeutic Albo, notices an opportunity:

“With months and months to prepare, from a pandemic that has been going for two years, it is unbelievable the government has told people to not go and get tested, but to test themselves with a rapid antigen test that isn’t available, and isn’t affordable,” Opposition Leader Anthony Albanese said.

“This is a public policy failure the like of which we haven’t seen in this country before.”

Mr Albanese said the consequences would be “dire” if rapid tests were not freely available.

Dire, eh?
Very astute observers will detect an ALP policy and election promise forming up…

rosie
rosie
January 3, 2022 1:15 pm

There is white pepper in carbonate.
So there.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 3, 2022 1:17 pm

Dude, a transgender donkey could have got rid of the Lying Slapper.

So you are saying the Libs should have gone with Christopher Pyne in 2010?

rosie
rosie
January 3, 2022 1:18 pm

I’d have Tones back in a heartbeat.
I in 7 Italians now have covid, right now.
From today Rome is yellow zone which limits you to four unrelated people at the same table at a restaurant.
The fact that tables are 20cm apart is irrelevant.

calli
calli
January 3, 2022 1:18 pm

I don’t see why it’s loony to be prepared. Only a halfwit would traipse off half-packed.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 3, 2022 1:20 pm

Ha ha.
I packed padded bike shorts every trip for ten years after the memory of the calloused arse bone following a long ride along the canals in France.
Could barely walk for two days.
It was like my first week in boarding school all over again.

calli
calli
January 3, 2022 1:22 pm

I in 7 Italians now have covid, right now.

Dropping like flies, I presume? Hospitals overwhelmed? Morgues filling? Bosch-like scenes in the Piazza Navona? Bloated bodies floating down the Tiber?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 3, 2022 1:25 pm

“This is a public policy failure the like of which we haven’t seen in this country before.”

Mr Albanese said the consequences would be “dire” if rapid tests were not freely available.

This is a concerted stunt to wedge ScoMo.
Hunchback and PalaceChook were dismissing rapid tests as “inaccurate and inappropriate” as recently as three weeks ago.
Suddenly, on the same day they announce that rapid tests are the go and two days later Albo is screaming about a shortage.
Don’t worry. The Liars cronies will have warehouses full of them.
Same for the compressed schedule for boosters. Six, no five … wait four months interval. Which means there will be a bottleneck around March, when the Federal campaign will kick off in earnest.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 3, 2022 1:27 pm

Rosie, I now have a medical letter from an Australian Specialist (Consultant) saying give me antibiotics if I say I need them. In it she says I should also never be without a current supply for immediate self-treatment especially if travelling overseas and I now hold two repeat scripts always. During the recent period when I could only get a telephone consult and no antibiotics this doc reckons I could have died from an inflammatory peritonitis (legacy of childhood peritonitis and many abdominal operations causing diverticulitis). Hairy was assertive, telling the doc we eventually saw that I was fading away in front of his eyes. It is true I did feel very ill.

I was also raced by Hairy to Emergency at 4am a couple of weeks ago with a similar thing, presenting as a suspected heart attack with gastritis, plus left shoulder and back pain. Admitted under observation for 24 hours, during which time, because a diffuse abdominal presentation can be Covid, I had to undergo a Covid test by a spaceman and stay for 3 hours abandonned, quarantined in a separate room till a result came through, with no call button. Hairy was told to go home and self-isolate as he couldn’t stay with me in quarantine. But I’ve just been in bed next to her, he complained to no avail.

Good job it wasn’t CHD, or I could have died unattended. I had to unhook myself from all of the various leads at source, tracing them back to the machine and pulling the plugs out, in order to get up and have a pee. The machine went dead but luckily I didn’t. No-one came. lol. Modern medicine.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
January 3, 2022 1:27 pm

Dude, a transgender donkey could have got rid of the Lying Slapper.

Fair comment JC.
But, as Sancho alluded to above, the alternatives to Abbott weren’t necessarily as good as that.

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