Open Thread – Mon 10 Jan 2022


The Black Brook, John Singer Sargent, 1908

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Pogria
Pogria
January 13, 2022 8:13 am
feelthebern
feelthebern
January 13, 2022 8:15 am

If we don’t get this COVID number way higher this wave, the public health nazis will be using this low natural immunity level as an excuse for trying these restrictions & lockdowns forever.

Dot
Dot
January 13, 2022 8:16 am

The medical profession has done itself a great mischief over this whole, sorry, sordid event.

I want nothing to do socially or otherwise with doctors or cops after this utter debacle.

Arresting people for buying and eating pizza in a car.
Just two weeks to flatten the curve.

Please self isolate…for the rest of your natural lives.

rickw
rickw
January 13, 2022 8:17 am

This is the problem.
The official data says only 536k people in NSW out of 8mill have had COVID.
Say the number is double or triple that.
We still are no where near where we need to be.

It may not be possible to go much higher than that. Let’s say the real number is triple. That gets you very close to the Ruby Princess’s maximum infection rate of 19%.

If the Ruby Princess is representative of NSW then you can only ever have about 1.6M infections.

bespoke
bespoke
January 13, 2022 8:17 am

To many disaster films with the plucky ‘experts’ saving the world. Odd though in those films the hero’s are out taking some risk not just doing press conferences.

Cosplay!

Gamers have more skin in the game then these people.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
January 13, 2022 8:18 am

“If you think about the way viruses behave, biologically, their reason for living is to replicate and spread, and there’s really no advantage for the virus to kill the host,” said Armitage.

I have been trying to subtly plant this thought in people’s heads as I speak to them. We think of a virus as something that makes you sick and can kill you, so people think that is the virus’ goal and its progress would be to become more and more deadly.

A virus that kills its host is actually a dead end. Success would be to be able to slip into a host and for it to continue along healthily with minimal impact. The trend would be to lower virulence – which will likely lead to higher contagiousness, but the asymptotic end to the trend is that everybody is infected with something that does not hurt them.

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 13, 2022 8:21 am

Fat Tony

I would really love to know all the financial ïncentives” received by government people & politicians.

Recall some discussion a few days back about the powers held by the ATO. Given that the pollies are extremely reluctant to take on the power over-reach by the ATO, I suspect that the ATO knows, and uses that knowledge as an implicit threat against any pollie who shows signs of becoming serious about ATO reform.

Cassie of Sydney
January 13, 2022 8:22 am

“2dogssays:
January 13, 2022 at 8:10 am
Boris is gonski.

Who are we picking as a replacement?

I’m hoping for Priti Patel.”

I don’t know……..Priti talks and talk but doesn’t walk the walk.

The underlying fetid problem in the UK…and here in Oz……and in the US……is the swamp by which I mean the bureaucracy…ninety-five percent of which is now run by far-left parasitical goons. Until there’s a bloody night, akin to GOT’s red wedding, where the bureaucratic goons are dealt with…ruthlessly….nothing will change.

But back to Boris, it says a lot about the elites that they actually thought they could have a soiree with lotsa drinkies on a nice evening in May 2021, on a night when ordinary Britons were being subjected to grotesque lockdown rules, and get away with it. Such is their hubris.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
January 13, 2022 8:23 am

333,235 Active cases

I wonder what proportion that is of the number of people exposed?

Makes that less than 1% even smaller.

bespoke
bespoke
January 13, 2022 8:24 am

Viruses are not sentient.

duncanm
duncanm
January 13, 2022 8:25 am

For all those lauding the low death rates — lets wait and see.

There was a 3-week offset between infection (detection/logging) and mortality peaks for delta.

I do believe it’ll still be a very low IFR.. but you can’t compare the numbers at the moment.

duncanm
duncanm
January 13, 2022 8:28 am

With a current infection rate of ~3.5k/million/day, we’re looking at 4 deaths/million/day (ie: ~80-100/day) assuming a CFR of 0.1%

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
January 13, 2022 8:28 am

feelthebernsays:
January 13, 2022 at 7:42 am
Boris isn’t sorry about the party.
He is sorry about getting caught.

Right about that, but not just limited to Scumbag politicians. There is almost zero personal responsibility these days. I’m thinking of a life of crime, won’t be my fault, there will be a line of leftists protecting me because I got a smacked bum when a kid or somebody looked at me the wrong way. All I know it doesn’t matter what I did I’m not responsible.

Eyrie
Eyrie
January 13, 2022 8:29 am

Has he got a name?
Of course, what a remarkably stupid question. I could find out what it is but I can’t be bothered.

Indolent
Indolent
January 13, 2022 8:29 am
Mater
January 13, 2022 8:29 am

Viruses are not sentient.

No, but those versions that kill, die with their host.
The less ‘capable’ ones continue to thrive, exactly because they are less competent.

Let’s call them the ‘Ranga’s’ of the Covid 19 community. They come to dominate purely because they survive.

The meek shall inherit the earth. Long live the Rangas!

Tom
Tom
January 13, 2022 8:31 am

Brexit is the only reason Boris Johnson is British PM and the only reason the Conservatives won in a landslide at the last general election.

Johnson is not a conservative and loathes the people who voted for Brexit. The only constituency Johnson listens to is his fruitcake missus, a doctor’s wife-style radical who wants to destroy the British economy with feelgood nonsense popular with teenage girls (and Scott Morrison).

The British Conservative Party id is as free of principles as the Stupid Fucking Liberals in Australia.
If he is forced to walk the plank, I fear he will be replaced with someone acceptable to the British Fucktard Media Industrial Complex who’ll never in a million years vote for the Conservative Party.

Eyrie
Eyrie
January 13, 2022 8:32 am

The less ‘capable’ ones continue to thrive, exactly because they are less competent.
I’d actually call them the more competent ones – they survive and spread.

Helen
Helen
January 13, 2022 8:32 am

A good overview of the different covid vaccines and how they work and a flag for the future in an overly vaccinated world.

Leon L.
Leon L.
January 13, 2022 8:33 am

PeterW was on target last night.

“too many people like you, with strong opinions but very little understanding of reality.”

Mass formation.
30% locked in to the narrative. Never going to change.
40% can be awakened from the hypnosis. We are now seeing this occur.
30% never affected by the narrative. Need to keep speaking out.

Most fascinating is the reverse onus of proof.
We have to prove what we have always done in previous pandemics.
The new never before used method has default approval and no critical thinking applied.
We live in the misinformation age.
Bullshit circulates the globe at the speed of light.

Helen
Helen
January 13, 2022 8:33 am

oops linky

A good overview of the different covid vaccines and how they work and a flag for the future in an overly vaccinated world.

calli
calli
January 13, 2022 8:34 am

If the Ruby Princess is representative of NSW then you can only ever have about 1.6M infections.

Hang on there.

If the “Original Sin” hypothesis is true, you’re going to have many, many more. Permanently.

Eyrie
Eyrie
January 13, 2022 8:35 am

PeterW, thanks for your excellent posts last night.

Eyrie
Eyrie
January 13, 2022 8:37 am

If the Ruby Princess is representative of NSW then you can only ever have about 1.6M infections.

Hang on there.

If the “Original Sin” hypothesis is true, you’re going to have many, many more. Permanently.

Quite possibly so and we’ll have done it to ourselves. It will be hard to tell as the control group of genuinely unvaccinated is allegedly so small and nobody will want to see those numbers vs the vaxxed re Omicron.

pete m
pete m
January 13, 2022 8:38 am

We have about 60% vax rate on Gold Coast. Lots now getting covid.

Sadly that includes close family.

So we did the right thing and went to get tested as daughter very likely had it. Qld Health in their collasal incompetence decided to close the vehicle testing option for 2 days, so we lined up, spaced apart, for 4 hours waiting. They put about 20 people in a small room just prior to getting swabbed. A small room where 50% had covid, and more than a few big blokes coughed up lungs – despite a nice sign on the whiteboard saying no coughing.

Seriously.

Now awaiting test results but we’re fairly sure our daughter already had it (due to her symptoms), and the other 3 in our family got it from the testing fiasco.

Getting this fever etc is no fun. Like a rollercoaster of symptoms. Hopefully we get better by end of week.

Then they’ll be after us to have the booster or we are not fully vaxed.

Subscription model.

I got the vax for personal reasons and was a strong advocate for choice, and am absolutely against mandates and creating a 2 class society. The media whores are a huge part of why we’re in this place and they are so dumb it beggars belief.

Indolent
Indolent
January 13, 2022 8:39 am
Boambee John
Boambee John
January 13, 2022 8:42 am

DrBeauGansays:
January 13, 2022 at 7:41 am
Or a toxic mixture of all three.

Definitely. Boris had it and recovered with no apparent damage. He knew it wasn’t a serious problem

And Boris is not exactly a fine physical specimen!

Dot
Dot
January 13, 2022 8:43 am

What’s the difference between the government and drug cartels?

Cartels don’t force you to take their drugs.

bespoke
bespoke
January 13, 2022 8:47 am

What’s the difference between the government and drug cartels?

Cartels don’t force you to take their drugs.

They both feed off the vulnerable.

Dot
Dot
January 13, 2022 8:47 am

Legendary goalscorer Sergio Aguero is on the verge of announcing his shock retirement from football because of the heart problem that forced him off during a Barcelona game earlier this month, according to a well-placed source.

Argentina icon Aguero, who only joined Barca from Manchester City in the summer, was forced off in the first half of the Spanish giants’ 1-1 draw at home to Alaves on November 2.

The veteran hitman was rushed to hospital with chest pains after struggling to breathe and had been expected to be out for around three months following evaluations.

Aguero will now retire from the game, according to Catalunya Radio, with Barcelona oracle Reshad Rahman claiming that the news will be officially confirmed within a week.

The five-time title winner with City is synonymous with the club’s rise to become the team to beat in England, not least because of his last-gasp goal at the City of Manchester Stadium with which they sealed league glory in 2012.

Clearly, he’s a 75 year old lardarse, amirite?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
January 13, 2022 8:48 am

Viruses are not sentient.

That is why I avoided referring to what ‘it wants’ or ‘intends’ or such.

But we do talk of species having ‘success’ when it is able to propagate, to dominate a biome or establish itself in a niche where it flourishes unchallenged.

In the case of viruses what we see them do is reproduce. They have no instinct for it as an animal does but it is what the virus does.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 13, 2022 8:49 am

Looks like that laughable buffoon Boris is about to disappear into well deserved obscurity to be hectored by his appalling wife before she strips him of his remaining assets and dignity. A fate I approve of.

Tom
Tom
January 13, 2022 8:49 am

The Bee:

To help you get ahead of the curve, keep in mind these ten upcoming fabricated media narratives in 2022.

1) The vaccine didn’t work. Here’s why that’s actually a good thing: They’ll explain it all in a very brilliant NYT op-ed.

2) Most greenhouse gasses are produced by people complaining about high gas prices: This is all your fault, you ingrate. Stop complaining!

3) Rand Paul only criticizes Fauci because he can’t date him: Just look at the way Rand Paul looks into those beady little eyes. He’s clearly in love.

4) Botched eyebrow lifts are really a sign of stunning bravery: Would you have the courage to walk out of the house like that? Didn’t think so.

5) Climate change is inflicting the equivalent of twelve January 6ths on our democracy every day: Actually, this one is probably true. Greenhouse gases do tend to wander around buildings aimlessly and be almost completely harmless.

6) Companies relocating from California to Texas are transphobic: Why else would people leave California?

7) Inflation actually reverses climate change: Great news! Bring on the inflation!

8) Gov. DeSantis is the cause of all hurricanes: He uses his secret weather machine. What a jerk!

9) The skyrocketing crime rate is the fault of the unvaccinated: To be fair, everything is the fault of the unvaccinated.

10) Afghanistan has become a beautiful, egalitarian utopia: Look! They’re letting women be suicide bombers too!

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
January 13, 2022 8:54 am

Omicron is endemic, that’s so obvious to all sensible people that only government could deny the fact.
Testing for endemic illness is pointless and draws resources away from managing those who become acutely ill.
Get back to work, stay home if you feel ill, call a doctor if you’re becoming debilitated and turn off the media.

MatrixTransform
January 13, 2022 8:56 am

pete_m
can I ask how you feel now, about the vax and looming boost

personally, I kinda took the vax on available data that it would be relatively low risk and possibly beneficial. also of course, there was a huge amount of social pressure to do so.

after my own vox-pop yesterday at work it appears that the vast majority of people testing +ve are indeed vaxxed.

seriously, the vaxxed out number the unvaxxed and in my mental spreadsheet the ratio would something like 50 to 4

vaxxed and un-vaxxed +ves all seemed to report about the same level of distress.
a fever and a fart and it was over

there’s only one person I know whose experience with the disease has been a rocky 10 days
she is un-vaxxed and the hospital turned her away and sent her home with an oxy monitor.

Barry
Barry
January 13, 2022 8:58 am

Can’t vouch for its veracity, but the following vid shows that Victorian Hospitals are far from overflowing.
Link

The Nurses union has ensured that their members have been able to cruise for the past 2 years, at great expense to the population. Lockdowns and restrictions to “flatten the curve” and “protect our hospitals” have just resulted in a fatter, more bloated, lazier health system.

Baba
Baba
January 13, 2022 8:58 am

rosie
January 13, 2022 at 5:21 am

we are not malone

Has anyone got an actual quote of Robert Malone claiming to be the inventor of mRNA vaccines as opposed to the technology or platform?

This appears to me to be another example of fact checkers stock in trade.

Fact checking a claim which either wasn’t made as asserted or fact checking a claim only made by the wacky fringe in order to discredit the broader position.

RMIT ABC Fact Check does this consistently.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 13, 2022 9:01 am

10) Afghanistan has become a beautiful, egalitarian utopia

Did take long for that one to come true.

23 Million Afghans On Brink Of Starvation As Media Has ‘Moved On’ (12 Jan)

It must be a beautiful egalitarian utopia since only in beautiful egalitarian utopias like Venezuela and North Korea does everyone starve except for the elites.

egg_
egg_
January 13, 2022 9:04 am

a fatter, more bloated, lazier health system.

Obese ‘Elf staff?

Seems the norm.

calli
calli
January 13, 2022 9:06 am

Baba, it’s on his Twitter profile.

Now, that profile itself could be a fake. I don’t know. But that’s the claim right there.

egg_
egg_
January 13, 2022 9:07 am

Omicron is endemic

Farr’s Law’s logical conclusion to Stairmaster Dan’s ‘COVID Zero’.

calli
calli
January 13, 2022 9:08 am

That ward may be empty because there’s no one to staff it. Cause and effect.

Mater
January 13, 2022 9:10 am

I’d actually call them the more competent ones – they survive and spread.

True, my statement was for analogous purposes only.

In simple terms, which version of the virus is likely to survive, thrive and dominate?

1. The one that makes it’s host sick and in doing so triggers death or isolation, or

2. The one that leaves it’s host asymptomatic so that they continue on with normal life and allow the spread to continue.

Clearly the asymptomatic one wins at the end of the day. A highly desirable outcome for both parties. Nature is wonderful.

Dot
Dot
January 13, 2022 9:14 am

Um…?

From Tim Pool

MSM says Psy Ops are crucial for fighting misinformation.

https://youtu.be/y8pv6Klya94

Pogria
Pogria
January 13, 2022 9:14 am

Substitute Australian for Irish, and you wouldn’t be able to tell the difference.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
January 13, 2022 9:16 am

Has anyone got an actual quote of Robert Malone claiming to be the inventor of mRNA vaccines as opposed to the technology or platform?

Why, yes.

twostix
twostix
January 13, 2022 9:19 am

“libertarian” boomer JC spent last night explaining that if you’re against this state medical tyranny and all that was done to young people for his benefit you’re pro euthanisia because killing grandma.

Old man who smoked all his life getting nervous again. Echos of feb 2020.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
January 13, 2022 9:20 am

NSW
En92,264demic.

Franx
Franx
January 13, 2022 9:22 am

Boris is clearly a hypocrite but then so am I if I want freedom but rail against Boris being free. Championing Boris the hypocrite but not the hypocrisy may be the way to go. Its a vicious vice we are in.

lotocoti
lotocoti
January 13, 2022 9:28 am

Have we reached A Grim Milestone yet?

twostix
twostix
January 13, 2022 9:29 am

Just last week I was mocking old LDP “libertarians” for their incessant habit of covering any personal support for state tyranny under the label of “public health”.

calli
calli
January 13, 2022 9:31 am

Boris wants to be free, while telling others they can’t be.

He can go jump. Along with the rest of them.

Boris’ “freedom” is not freedom at all if it’s selective. It’s dandified tyranny.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 13, 2022 9:34 am

Yep. Freedom for me but not for thee. Bring on the guillotine.

bespoke
bespoke
January 13, 2022 9:36 am

And just yesterday, twostix you were having ago at people for being obsessed with Struth.

You first or stop bitching.

Baba
Baba
January 13, 2022 9:37 am

Thank you, Calli and Dr Faustus.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
January 13, 2022 9:39 am

What’s next in Prince Andrew lawsuit?

Appeal Kaplan’s ruling;
Settlement.
New Mercedes’ all round.

His lawyers won’t allow him to be subject to deposition. He is such an intensely stupid man that the risk of perjury is off the scale.

Baba
Baba
January 13, 2022 9:39 am

Paul Joseph Watson on the outrage over Boris’ garden party.

https://youtu.be/x8uPbCZnp2U

Kneel
Kneel
January 13, 2022 9:40 am

“That gets you very close to the Ruby Princess’s maximum infection rate of 19%.”

Note: official US Gov website!

This could be why it only reached 19%:

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/immune-cells-common-cold-may-recognize-sars-cov-2

“At a Glance

A study of blood samples taken before the COVID-19 pandemic showed that some people already had certain immune cells that recognize SARS-CoV-2.
These immune cells also reacted with coronaviruses that cause common colds.
The findings suggest that existing immune cells may help account for the wide range of symptoms experienced by people with COVID-19.”

Franx
Franx
January 13, 2022 9:41 am

It’s not being a dandy that’s at issue. It’s that we are controlled.

twostix
twostix
January 13, 2022 9:43 am

I and many others argued vigourously everyday that if you gave them two weeks you’d never get it back. That they were telling us to our faces it was going to go on to 2022, and a new society was,
to be built a “new normal”, that the Chinese videos of people dropping dead were fake and the numbers coming out of italy were utterly corrupt.

So when JC says “nobody knew” he means him and the hysterical mob were wrong and they have to forever pretend the people who saw right through it all (who they took part in abusing and lynching and running out of public including all the prominent doctors merely saying put the brakes on) didn’t exist.

“How were we supposed to know?” is what participants in a mob say in the cold light of day the next morning.

calli
calli
January 13, 2022 9:48 am

Dandified = dressed up to excess to hide the hideous truth

I picture Boris as a bald gent in a periwig, making a leg. Bill Leak did it mercilessly with Rudd and Turnbull.

Free to wear the clothing of the elite but rotten to the core.

JC
JC
January 13, 2022 9:49 am

Stix

Back in Jan/ Feb 2020, I wish I was a mufti like you. A visionary mufti.

Oh hang on, I had my doubts at the time too. 🙂 look it up.

JC
JC
January 13, 2022 9:52 am

“libertarian” boomer JC spent last night explaining that if you’re against this state medical tyranny and all that was done to young people for his benefit you’re pro euthanisia because killing grandma.

Old man who smoked all his life getting nervous again. Echos of feb 2020.

You of all people here shouldn’t be talking about euthanasia, Greto. It’s a little too close for comfort with the way you speak about older gens.

calli
calli
January 13, 2022 9:58 am

PJW has an excellent point. It’s all about misdirection and focus.

But being wise after the fact doesn’t help with what to do now. “I told you so” is the empty boasting of the nagging shrew, not the positive direction of a leader.

The MSM is still just as renegade, still the mouthpiece of government (read bureaucracy, not those elected who seem to be disposable as a dirty mask). And leadership is what’s lacking.

cohenite
January 13, 2022 9:59 am

I have zero sympathy for Boris.

He is hazza in drag; fucked stupid by a green bitch. It’s unbelievable that a greenie bitch is effectively running England and after one of the biggest election wins ever boris under the influence of this ball tearer will enable commie labor to get back in.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
January 13, 2022 10:02 am

A major driver for Australia’s impending Hunger Games is that we’ve become a nation of supermarket shoppers.

It’s absolutely bizarre. Our local Coles is literally next door to an ‘artisan’ butcher. With another, family butcher across the street.

Coles: zero meat for sale, literally nothing except duck fat and dog bones.

Butchers: full displays, no apparent shortages. No queues of desperate shoppers either.

Similarly the supermarket shelves have been systematically pillaged of items flagged by Professor Kidd as necessities to survive the OmniStorm.

We’re facing starvation of the time-poor urban bugperson. Even the Poms are laughing at us.
An unimaginable tragedy.

Kneel
Kneel
January 13, 2022 10:02 am

“The less ‘capable’ ones continue to thrive, exactly because they are less competent.”

More successful again are those that confer a survival advantage to a successful host species, and become symbiotic with that species (eg, gut flora).

Even more successful still are those that are such a survival advantage that they are incorporated directly into the hosts DNA (yes, that does happen!)

Of course, corona virus’ are unlikely to do either of those…

Franx
Franx
January 13, 2022 10:05 am

Overlooking their distinctiveness – with someone like Boris and Djokovic the argument about unfairness can imperceptibly tighten the vice of tyranny by leaving it possible to imply that because we have been tyrannised, they should join us in the experience, for the sake of fairness.

Kneel
Kneel
January 13, 2022 10:08 am

“We live in the misinformation age.
Bullshit circulates the globe at the speed of light.”

Information –> knowledge –> wisdom
Can we please get past the information age and into the wisdom age?

“A lie gets half way around the world while the truth is still tying its shoe laces”

egg_
egg_
January 13, 2022 10:15 am

I have zero sympathy for Boris.

He is hazza in drag; fucked stupid by a green bitch.

+1

Boris is just a life support system for his penis, as the Green witch must know.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 13, 2022 10:15 am

Colesworths certainly does Australia no favours. Unfortunately our market size means we are destined to be served by oligopolies or worse. Better get used to it.

I went to a potential suppliers meeting with one of them once. The focus was not on the supplier or the customer.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
January 13, 2022 10:16 am

National cabinet will meet today. Here’s what’s on the agenda

What’s on the agenda should have been discussed, agreed and planned for a month ago. So, in government terms: Straight out of the blocks.

One exciting initiative:

…ministers have flagged the possibility JobSeeker recipients could be deployed into workforces that are facing staff shortages.

Personally I’d be less than enthusiastic about having random JobSeekers “deployed” into my business.

The risk element of managing a sudden influx of untrained, probably reluctant, potentially drug-fucked temporary employees seems to have escaped the flagging ministers.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 13, 2022 10:20 am

“It’s happening!”


Guilty.

MatrixTransform
January 13, 2022 10:23 am

ministers have flagged the possibility JobSeeker recipients could be deployed into workforces that are facing staff shortages

did that come from Beria, or straight from Stalin?

egg_
egg_
January 13, 2022 10:24 am

Old man who smoked all his life getting nervous again. Echos of feb 2020.

Oh noes!

A new strain of Rona emerges that savagely attacks smokers, calling for a new triple-nanowriggler Frankenvax, more deadly than smoking- choices, choices…

MatrixTransform
January 13, 2022 10:27 am

A new strain of Rona emerges that savagely attacks smokers

note to self: cut down on the bongs

egg_
egg_
January 13, 2022 10:27 am

a sudden influx of untrained, probably reluctant, potentially drug-fucked temporary employees

Probably no worse the imported Ponzi scheme swarthies delivering your Colesworths.

/Chicken-van-man

.

egg_
egg_
January 13, 2022 10:29 am

People who smoke are generally at higher risk of respiratory tract infections. People who currently smoke and who have previously smoked may be more likely to have severe COVID-19 disease compared to someone who has never smoked.

FAQs – Coronavirus (COVID-19) and Smoking – Quit Victoria

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 13, 2022 10:30 am

/Chicken-van-man

Dick Pusey – freedom fighter!

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 13, 2022 10:32 am

Quit Victoria

Excellent idea.

MatrixTransform
January 13, 2022 10:32 am

in Victoria we don’t even got no chickensys

2dogs
2dogs
January 13, 2022 10:39 am

Can we please get past the information age and into the wisdom age?

For that, we need to change how we select our public experts.

Baba
Baba
January 13, 2022 10:40 am

For that, we need to change how we select our public experts.

Sortition! Couldn’t do any worse.

calli
calli
January 13, 2022 10:42 am

Boris = Djokovic?

I don’t think so. Boris is the tyrant, Djokovic is the tyrannised.

I can criticise the tyrant’s hypocrisy. I don’t want to deprive the bugger of his freedom unless he has broken his own (bad) laws. Then he is hoist on his own petard, not mine.

Razey
Razey
January 13, 2022 10:42 am

Dr Faustussays:
January 13, 2022 at 10:16 am
National cabinet will meet today. Here’s what’s on the agenda

What’s on the agenda should have been discussed, agreed and planned for a month ago. So, in government terms: Straight out of the blocks.

One exciting initiative:

…ministers have flagged the possibility JobSeeker recipients could be deployed into workforces that are facing staff shortages.

How about getting rid of mandates?

No they wont. It is politically impossible to ever remove mandates. The sheep love them too much now.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 13, 2022 10:42 am

Urban bugthing doctor at the gruinaid…

My bile rises as I’m asked to move my dying cancer patient out of ICU to make room for an unvaccinated man with Covid
Ranjana Srivastava
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jan/13/my-bile-rises-as-im-asked-to-move-my-dying-cancer-patient-out-of-icu-to-make-room-for-an-unvaccinated-man-with-covid

While I was away, her disease progressed. She had begun aggressive chemotherapy and days later, she fell ill. Expecting a conversation about a temporary setback, I encounter a gravely ill woman who is intubated, with failing organs, on maximal life support.

A few hours later, the intensive care doctor calls.

She’s very unwell, he says before getting to the real point.

“I am asking you if we can make an early call to palliate and discharge her from ICU.”

“When?”

“Now.”

My disbelief must be open because it prompts the rueful explanation that a Covid patient needs an intensive care bed.

The pieces fall together instantly. With intensive care at capacity, I am being asked to move my patient to make room for another. “After all, your patient does have incurable cancer.”

My bile rises. And even as I know it’s a petty question, I can’t help asking: “Is the Covid patient vaccinated?”

“No,” he says wearily. “That’s why he is so sick.”

TL/DR: Dying patient taken off the machine that goes ‘ping”for patient with a chance of survival.

I note doctor did not choose to reveal if dying lady have contributed to her own disease since now we are going to start branding patients worthy or unworthy.
Did she ever smoke, drink, engage in risky behavior, get sunburnt, etc, etc…
In which case she must have deserved it
Or something.

Baba
Baba
January 13, 2022 10:44 am
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 13, 2022 10:46 am

Can we please get past the information age and into the wisdom age?

Over the dead bodies of the teachers’ unions.

Dems Want to Pivot Away From COVID, Teachers’ Unions Won’t Let Them (9 Jan)

Facing ruinous polls, Dems decided to pivot from pandemic to endemic messaging, imposing vaccine restrictions, but mostly trying to reopen. Virginia and New Jersey sent a pretty clear message about the anger simmering in the suburbs about the public school situation.

And, at least initially, the teachers’ unions seemed willing to go along. But that lasted about all of 5 minutes in the interim between the Randi Weingarten makeover as an advocate for reopening schools to unions pushing for mental health days and then outright returns to Zoom classes.

Seems that lefty teachers quite like Zoom classes. Presumably they can ignore the difficult kids and mute them and then just keep on going about the Latest lefty fad.

Standardized test scores in California fell during year in distance learning (7 Jan)

‘Above a Third’ of Students Fall Behind During Zoom School Year (15 Jun)

Without the tools to discern lefty bullshit they’ll vote for the green-progressives for life, like so many poor Venezuelans still do.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
January 13, 2022 10:48 am

Chicken-van-man

An example.
Brought to a bridge near you by “ministers”…

calli
calli
January 13, 2022 10:48 am

The “It’s Happening!” greeting was Tailgunner.

Always a good start to the day, although exactly what was happening remained to be seen. Another one who delved too deeply into the webby murk without asking, “Is it true?”.

egg_
egg_
January 13, 2022 10:48 am

That ward may be empty because there’s no one to staff it.

Staff too busy on TikTok?

H/t – PJW

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 13, 2022 10:51 am

I note doctor did not choose to reveal if dying lady have contributed to her own disease since now we are going to start branding patients worthy or unworthy.
Did she ever smoke, drink, engage in risky behavior, get sunburnt, etc, etc…
In which case she must have deserved it
Or something.

Maybe we are on the verge of a golden era of personal responsibility and consequences for your actions?

calli
calli
January 13, 2022 10:54 am

I note doctor did not choose to reveal if dying lady have contributed to her own disease since now we are going to start branding patients worthy or unworthy

Dr Srivastava may be Brahmin caste, in which case differentiation comes naturally. Just different parameters this time.

Cassie of Sydney
January 13, 2022 10:54 am

He is hazza in drag; fucked stupid by a green bitch. It’s unbelievable that a greenie bitch is effectively running England and after one of the biggest election wins ever boris under the influence of this ball tearer will enable commie labor to get back in.”

Yes and no. It isn’t just Queen Carrie who’s to blame. It’s also senior conservatives and their ongoing spinelessness and ineptness. The Tories in the UK are no different to the useless Coalition here in Oz…..they are handed electoral victories yet all they do is go on to squander them and try to appease their ideological enemies. The Tories, despite endless chatter, can’t even protect UK borders. Middle and working class England watch in dismay as Afghani and Syrian Muesli migrants arrive on English beaches and yet Boris and co. say nothing and do nothing. Middle and working class England watch in dismay as statues of Churchill are smashed and vandalised and yet Boris and co say nothing and do nothing. Middle and working class England watch in dismay as their culture is trashed by the far-left and yet Boris and co say nothing and do nothing. Middle and working class England watch as their freedoms are threatened and their speech is censored yet Boris and co. say nothing and do nothing.

If Boris was a true cultural and ideological warrior, his attendance at a party wouldn’t be such an issue with ordinary Brits. But then someone with their finger on the pulse and someone who respected ordinary Brits would never have attended such a party because they’d be aware of the travesty, of the hypocrisy and of the double standards. It’s clear that Boris has contempt for ordinary people.

He must go. But he should only be the first. It’s the same here.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 13, 2022 10:55 am

The appearance of Sally McManus in the public conversation is rarely a positive development.

egg_
egg_
January 13, 2022 10:58 am

Dick Pusey – freedom fighter!

Cleansing the breakdown lane of Keystone Cops?

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 13, 2022 11:02 am

Trying to negotiate the local Colesworths is now a pain because the aisles are full of minimum wage drones pushing giant trolleys trying to do 16 people’s online shopping.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 13, 2022 11:03 am

FAQs – Coronavirus (COVID-19) and Smoking – Quit Victoria

Bugmen gotta bug.

Initial reports were that smoking protects against covid infection. That was before anti-smoking health administration mafia went reeeeeee, we can’t have that, and started putting out the usual reactionary stuff.

I think smoking probably is protective to some extent, since the data is that disinfecting the nose and throat, eg with a povidone-iodine nasal spray, seems quite effective at preventing covid infection.

It would therefore be unsurprising if smokers, who are regularly treating their nose and throat with a mix of disinfecting chemical aerosols, might also get some of the same benefits.

But that idea would be so haram that the Cathedral would squelch it in seconds.

egg_
egg_
January 13, 2022 11:05 am

Middle and working class England watch in dismay as Afghani and Syrian Muesli migrants arrive on English beaches and yet Boris and co. say nothing and do nothing. Middle and working class England watch in dismay as statues of Churchill are smashed and vandalised and yet Boris and co say nothing and do nothing. Middle and working class England watch in dismay as their culture is trashed by the far-left and yet Boris and co say nothing and do nothing. Middle and working class England watch as their freedoms are threatened and their speech is censored yet Boris and co. say nothing and do nothing.

Note how every UK celebrity panel show now contains the obligatory M#zzo “Comedian”.

twostix
twostix
January 13, 2022 11:08 am

It’s expected the list of sectors classified as essential will also expand following the national cabinet meeting, in order to keep supply chains moving.

It comes after the country’s leading medical advisory group recommended earlier this week that food and grocery workers be able to return to work after being a close contact of a positive COVID case, provided they then return a negative rapid test.

A similar proposal could be laid out for other sectors classified as essential, which could include road, rail and air transport, mental health and education and energy supply.

It’s expected transport and logistics workers would be prioritised.

Meanwhile, ministers have flagged the possibility JobSeeker recipients could be deployed into workforces that are facing staff shortages.

A plan to also increase the hours international students are able to work to 40 hours a fortnight is also being considered as a way to alleviate pressure on sectors hardest hit by the virus.

This is all just another day in a newly minted command and control communist country.

egg_
egg_
January 13, 2022 11:09 am

Bugmen gotta bug.

‘Elf NAZIs compare obesity to smoking – self inflected harm.

M0ntifa still hiding under the bed from Rona?

Been on a dinner date with JC lately?

calli
calli
January 13, 2022 11:09 am

And in addition, Dr Srivastava, my gorge rose at the prospect of you even imagining denying care to a person whose life choices you disagree with.

A person whose taxes paid for your training in the first place, and also pay for the hospital bed you don’t want to give them.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
January 13, 2022 11:10 am

Maybe we are on the verge of a golden era of personal responsibility and consequences for your actions?

Personally I expect that an advanced civilisation from the Andromeda Galaxy will arrive with gifts that will effortlessly transform our lives.

Cassie of Sydney
January 13, 2022 11:13 am

“egg_says:
January 13, 2022 at 11:05 am
Middle and working class England watch in dismay as Afghani and Syrian Muesli migrants arrive on English beaches and yet Boris and co. say nothing and do nothing. Middle and working class England watch in dismay as statues of Churchill are smashed and vandalised and yet Boris and co say nothing and do nothing. Middle and working class England watch in dismay as their culture is trashed by the far-left and yet Boris and co say nothing and do nothing. Middle and working class England watch as their freedoms are threatened and their speech is censored yet Boris and co. say nothing and do nothing.

Note how every UK celebrity panel show now contains the obligatory M#zzo “Comedian”.”

Yep…same here on their ABC.

Oh and I should clarify what I wrote above…

“Middle and working class England watch in dismay as Muesli future rapists of white working class girls arrive on English beaches and yet Boris and co. say nothing and do nothing.”

egg_
egg_
January 13, 2022 11:14 am

the country’s leading medical advisory group recommended earlier this week that food and grocery workers be able to return to work after being a close contact of a positive COVID case, provided they then return a negative rapid test.

‘Elf NAZIs boxed themselves into a corner?

Quelle surprise!

Rabid testing R us!

egg_
egg_
January 13, 2022 11:16 am

every UK celebrity panel show now contains the obligatory M#zzo “Comedian”

And the host is usually amazed by their wit and engaging personality!

/No.tokenism.here

egg_
egg_
January 13, 2022 11:18 am

It’s expected transport and logistics workers would be prioritised.

Chicken-van-men to the fore!

Tom
Tom
January 13, 2022 11:18 am

Maybe we are on the verge of a golden era of personal responsibility and consequences for your actions?

Give us a spell, Humphrey.

In the past two years, the world and America especially have been horrified by the revelation of the fascist nanny state running Australia where the public service Deep State has been making up the Kung Flu rules as it goes along and politicians have realised that keeping the population terrified of Kung Flu helps them win elections.

In fact, beating up bad news stories has been part of the popular press’s business model for decades. It’s only in the past two years that hysteria has been repurposed as a control mechanism wielded by opportunistically fascist governments.

There is ZERO chance of media hysteria about Kung Flu being discontinued because it sells newspapers and attracts millions of eyeballs every night for the 6pm TV news.

Fascists like McClown in WA and Andrews in Victoria have little political opposition while “Liberal” governments in other states mimick Labor regimes while utilising media hysteria about Kung Flu to stay popular.

Far from any thought of proliferating personal responsibilty, Australia is entering a dark age of fear-driven demoagoguery.

Dot
Dot
January 13, 2022 11:19 am

Just last week I was mocking old LDP “libertarians” for their incessant habit of covering any personal support for state tyranny under the label of “public health”.

Like me?

Limerick?

Quilty?

Leyonhjelm had an injunction made against him for doling out Ivermectin.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 13, 2022 11:19 am

Greenhouse gases do tend to wander around buildings aimlessly and be almost completely harmless.

I dunno, Tom.

Some of my contributions nearly murdered me and my driver the other day…

#TheChokingHorror-DietaryFibreEdition

Dot
Dot
January 13, 2022 11:19 am

LOL

Limbrick

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 13, 2022 11:20 am

The appearance of Sally McManus in the public conversation is rarely a positive development.

Allow me to suggest the words “is usually a totally negative development.”

The class war is over, Comrade. Your side lost.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 13, 2022 11:22 am

Personally I expect that an advanced civilisation from the Andromeda Galaxy will arrive with gifts that will effortlessly transform our lives.

In exchange for eating a steadily increasing proportion of us?

JC
JC
January 13, 2022 11:22 am

Eggly, how’s the Cat harem going these days?

Lysander
Lysander
January 13, 2022 11:22 am

I have to get the vax tomorrow (no choice like those who can afford to “check out” from society) and my wife, a raging pro-vaxxer (who hasn’t actually read anything) is celebrating this event.

Anyone got a really solid article from an authoritative source about just how bad this shit is? Not going to stop me getting it (as I have to) but at least I can share some reverse fear porn…

Roger
Roger
January 13, 2022 11:23 am

Leader of the Scottish Conservatives has submitted a letter saying he has no confidence in Bozo.

53 more needed to trigger a leadership challenge.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 13, 2022 11:25 am

Zulu, I remain at my machine gun post deep in the jungle.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 13, 2022 11:28 am

It isn’t just Queen Carrie who’s to blame. It’s also senior conservatives and their ongoing spinelessness and ineptness. The Tories in the UK are no different to the useless Coalition here in Oz…..they are handed electoral victories yet all they do is go on to squander them and try to appease their ideological enemies.

Cassie – The Tory elite are just like the Photios wets here. They believe everything that Boris’s greenie wife believes: thermageddon, Gaia, stupid renewables – which is why there’s no real opposition to the net zero insanity in the Tory government.

It’s the base that doesn’t believe the climate rubbish. That’s why Farage was opining the other day that the Reform Party could well eat the Conservatives for breakfast as the disgusted base switches en mass. Being a FPP system they could easily take quite a large chunk of the seats. The Tories are well behind Labour in the polls, it’s that bad.

Until the Libs work out they’ve been fooled by the bugmen, and defy the climate crazies, they’re not going to succeed here either. Why vote for greenish Libs when you also could choose greenish Labor or greenish Greens? Or a plethora of greenish minor parties like the Animals mob, the Sex Party and the so-called Science Party (nonsense party more like). Meanwhile at 30% of the voters are fed up and have no one they can vote for because there’re no serious righty parties.

/rant

Top Ender
Top Ender
January 13, 2022 11:29 am

Middle and working class England watch in dismay as their culture is trashed by the far-left and yet Boris and co say nothing and do nothing.

Hardly unexpected, given his current squeeze, who’s a full on woke warrior.

Brings to mind Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette, and that ended badly.

Dot
Dot
January 13, 2022 11:30 am

In exchange for eating a steadily increasing proportion of us?

No, us men folk get new wives all like Kim Basinger or Princess Stephanie.

Dot
Dot
January 13, 2022 11:31 am

Is that DS Hathaway actor in Reform?

Him as Chancellor, Nige as PM.

Clarkson as the new monarch.

Good times. 8)

Lysander
Lysander
January 13, 2022 11:32 am

I demand the rights of Greeks be upheld and the Persians institute an Invasion Day Holiday.

bespoke
bespoke
January 13, 2022 11:32 am

Dr Faustussays:
January 13, 2022 at 11:10 am

Personally I expect that an advanced civilisation from the Andromeda Galaxy will arrive with gifts that will effortlessly transform our lives.

Wishful thinking, They turned around disgust and we are surrounded by worming beacons.

Dot
Dot
January 13, 2022 11:33 am

Anyone got a really solid article from an authoritative source about just how bad this shit is? Not going to stop me getting it (as I have to) but at least I can share some reverse fear porn…

Dr Frank Gilroy filling in for Dot here.

A. Your dick will fall off.
B. Pureblood sperm is the new BTC.

Top Ender
Top Ender
January 13, 2022 11:35 am

What do spoof western Blazing Saddles, cross-dressing comedy Tootsie, boxing drama Rocky and The Wizard of Oz have in common?

Apart from being hugely successful, much-loved films, no connection may spring to mind. But according to a new expose of the chilling effect that ‘wokeness’ has had on Hollywood, all are now ‘verboten’ in industry circles.

Blazing Saddles (co-written by black comedian Richard Pryor) sends up racism with its black sheriff protagonist; Tootsie’s Dustin Hoffman pretends to be a woman to get acting work; Rocky’s bad guy is black; and The Wizard of Oz hired people with dwarfism to play its Munchkins.

Which means none of these classic movies would stand any chance of getting commissioned today, according to prominent directors and writers.

Daily Mail

bespoke
bespoke
January 13, 2022 11:37 am

…warning

Miss Anthropist
Miss Anthropist
January 13, 2022 11:39 am

I am pleased that there are gentlemen on here that have had the character building experience of using the 84mm.
I have never seen a weapon so awkward to carry with bits designed to dig in to you. My heart went out to the poor souls tasked to carry the things.

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 13, 2022 11:41 am

The press and politics have a parasitic relationship with each other. They both need to be destroyed.”

Unfortunately, the relationship is symbiotic, nor parasitic. If it were parasitic, one would eventually weaken, if not kill, the other.

Dot
Dot
January 13, 2022 11:41 am

If a bloke is given a LSW to lug around is he being rewarded or punished?

Mate of mine was told it was either and for him to figure out. I assume he was being spanked.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 13, 2022 11:41 am

Brings to mind Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette, and that ended badly.

That really depends on your POV.

Roger
Roger
January 13, 2022 11:42 am

Mmm…sound familiar?

…for all the talk of human rights on the Left or “ancient British liberties” on the Right, the dirty little secret of British politics is that the typical British voter is an authoritarian, not a libertarian. We do need to be careful about terminology here. By authoritarian I don’t mean fascist. What I do mean is a “predisposition toward social conformity and security at the expense of individual autonomy and diversity”, as Erik Tillman defines it.

Who will rise from the Boris chaos?

Slim Cognito
Slim Cognito
January 13, 2022 11:43 am

Sorry to hear of your position Lysander.

my wife, a raging pro-vaxxer (who hasn’t actually read anything) is celebrating this event

I wonder how common this scenario is in Australia today. You are not alone.

egg_
egg_
January 13, 2022 11:46 am

how’s the Cat harem going these days?

GF wants me to move closer to her neighbourhood.

twostix
twostix
January 13, 2022 11:46 am

You of all people here shouldn’t be talking about euthanasia, Greto. It’s a little too close for comfort with the way you speak about older gens.

See what they’re doing?

Nice try boomer.

And here you go again. Nothing has changed under the hood.

We see now you’ll always reserve the right to support the government doing these things to us again. The half hearted post-event ‘oh I don’t support all that now but I did then and was completely correct to” is a dead giveaway. Because it’s in your maximum interest. Very australian “liberatarian”.

Also it was you people who dumped all the “old” people (beloved grandparents and great grandparents) into those disease ridden, african / Jobseeker forced staffed, euthanising-on-the-sly, abuse ridden ‘aged care homes’ hellholes to start with. You built that entire system for them.

We quietly protested that whole thing too, but then what could we do, as you’ll keep reminding us – they’re your parents, not ours.

Razey
Razey
January 13, 2022 11:46 am

Lysandersays:
January 13, 2022 at 11:22 am
I have to get the vax tomorrow (no choice like those who can afford to “check out” from society) and my wife, a raging pro-vaxxer (who hasn’t actually read anything) is celebrating this event.

Anyone got a really solid article from an authoritative source about just how bad this shit is? Not going to stop me getting it (as I have to) but at least I can share some reverse fear porn…

Have you confirmed your life insurance will cover you in the event of death or permanent disability from the clot shot?

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 13, 2022 11:47 am

Vaccination, like Trump, certainly opened a few new fissures.

dopey
dopey
January 13, 2022 11:47 am

Nearly lunchtime and no one seems to have ‘nailed it’ today.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 13, 2022 11:51 am

There’s a meme in ‘Succession’ used by the rich who have done evil deeds to people they wish to pay off to go away or who they believe they can simply ignore because these individuals are powerless.

NRPI

No Real Person Involved

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
January 13, 2022 11:52 am

My bile rises as I’m asked to move my dying cancer patient out of ICU to make room for an unvaccinated man with Covid

I wonder (not really) how he would take it if it was a vaccinated patient – we know they are dying too.

egg_
egg_
January 13, 2022 11:52 am

Brings to mind Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette

Macron take heed.

/Yellow vests

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 13, 2022 11:52 am

Calli

And leadership is what’s lacking.

As I commented a few days ago, when someone was slagging off at most of the Australian population, leadership is the current problem, but good leadership is the answer. Look at the contrast between Chamberlain in May 1940 and Churchill in June. Churchill promised “nothing but blood, toil, tears and sweat”, and the population stood behind him. Chamberlain would have negotiated with H1tler, and the population would have followed him.

Where, oh where, is our Churchill?

Lysander
Lysander
January 13, 2022 11:54 am

Have you confirmed your life insurance will cover you in the event of death or permanent disability from the clot shot?

Haha, like the Paki cricket player… Asif!

I wonder how common this scenario is in Australia today. You are not alone.

Indeed. A close family member has been hospitalised with vertigo, headaches and loss of feeling in legs since Vax. No other prior or underlying conditions and GP says “likely” because of Vax.

JC
JC
January 13, 2022 11:54 am

Greto

You’re in a parallel universe recreating your own reality.

No kidding, of late you’ve lost the plot as you’re starting to sound like a mix between Greta and the dude who did those radio bursts encouraging the Rwandan massacre.

If you’re parents are wading through the inheritance it’s not our fault.

Roger
Roger
January 13, 2022 11:54 am

Where, oh where, is our Churchill?

The problem is that Churchill was the product -so to speak -of a particular world.

And that world no longer exists.

harrys on the boat
harrys on the boat
January 13, 2022 11:56 am

Another one

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-10396275/James-Rodriguez-performs-life-saving-opponent-Ousmane-Coulibaly-suffers-cardiac-arrest.html

In all my years of following football, I have not seen anything like this. Every week there’s cardiac arrests on the field and in the crowds.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 13, 2022 11:56 am

Nearly lunchtime and no one seems to have ‘nailed it’ today.

Hold up.

Lemme go fetch my hammer…

#STOP!

#Hammertime

egg_
egg_
January 13, 2022 11:56 am

you people who dumped all the “old” people (beloved grandparents and great grandparents) into those disease ridden, african / Jobseeker forced staffed, euthanising-on-the-sly, abuse ridden ‘aged care homes’ hellholes to start with. You built that entire system for them.

Fitzy McChimp was said to be a yuge investor in Aged Care.

Dot
Dot
January 13, 2022 11:56 am

Bishop Giacomo Cirulli of the Italian Diocese of Teano-Calvi issued a decree banning unvaccinated priests, deacons, and lay Eucharistic ministers from distributing Holy Communion at Mass.

Bishop Cirulli released the statement to the public via the diocesan website in Italian.

“I invite you, henceforth, to respect and ensure the rigorous respect of the prophylactic and hygienic measures for the containment of the pandemic in our Churches … according to what is envisioned by Protocol between the Italian Government and the Italian Bishops Conference … ”

He added that he wanted particular attention paid to distancing between parishioners while at Mass.

“I prohibit the distribution of the Eucharist on behalf of Priests, Deacons, religious and laymen who are not vaccinated,” he wrote.

And that “during the Celebration [Mass] the hosts on the altar are to be rigorously kept under cover in the sacred vessels.”

In addition to the suspension of distributing Holy Communion by those who had not taken the abortion-tainted jab, all “pastoral, catechetical and in-person formative activities” are suspended from January 9 until further notice.

He ended the decree by citing Pope Francis, who last year called being vaccinated with the experimental and abortion-tainted shot an “act of love.” “Love for yourself, love for friends and family, love for all people.”

Pope Francis has doubled down on his push to have Catholics jabbed with the abortion-tainted substance, calling health care and vaccination “a moral obligation” in his annual address to the diplomatic corps.

—————–

What are we worshipping now? A living god who wants us to live up to his standards and be able to walk proudly with him or the fear of an endemic disease and statism?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
January 13, 2022 11:57 am

Personally I expect that an advanced civilisation from the Andromeda Galaxy will arrive with gifts that will effortlessly transform our lives.

In exchange for eating a steadily increasing proportion of us?

Some eating may be involved, yes, obviously.

But it’s important to remember that we are all in this together.

Chris
Chris
January 13, 2022 11:57 am

Brings to mind Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette, and that ended badly.

That really depends on your POV.

The atheists of the Revolution treated rural French people, who wanted to keep their religion, with extreme prejudice. Most of us could agree that genocide of the ordinary people including systematic mass rape is a bad ending.
The ‘woke’ reward system has no internal checks to prevent this outcome.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
January 13, 2022 11:57 am

Nearly lunchtime and no one seems to have ‘nailed it’ today.

Dopey nails it.

egg_
egg_
January 13, 2022 11:59 am

Nearly lunchtime and no one seems to have ‘nailed it’ today.

+1000

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 13, 2022 12:01 pm

If a bloke is given a LSW to lug around is he being rewarded or punished?

Mate of mine was told it was either and for him to figure out. I assume he was being spanked.

Depends.

The standing joke has always been that the smallest man gets the biggest gun in the section.

Some bosses prefer having the most competent weapon operator doing the fire support.

And some do it as you describe, Dot.

On many exercises I did, I ended up either carrying the radio (possibly cos I talk gud), was the ‘Arse-end Arnold’ or carried the gun.

Chris
Chris
January 13, 2022 12:02 pm

Mr Brettler, speaking on behalf of the Duke, added that Miss Roberts was solely seeking a ‘payday’ in making the claims.

One weekend with a cute 17-year-old hooker? I don’t hang with that kind of crowd, but it seems to me simple “Yeah, so what?” would be a proportionate response.

egg_
egg_
January 13, 2022 12:03 pm

In exchange for eating a steadily increasing proportion of us?

E.T.: Do humans taste like dinosaurs?

How has life evolved on you planet?

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 13, 2022 12:06 pm

Egg

Note how every UK celebrity panel show now contains the obligatory M#zzo “Comedian”.

Has Yassie Able Magpie got herself a gig there yet?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 13, 2022 12:06 pm

My bile rises as I’m asked to move my dying cancer patient out of ICU to make room for an unvaccinated man with Covid

He may well have been asked to do so anyway. It’s a fairly normal practice if someone is not going to get better – make them comfortable and move them to palliative care. Constant (and expensive) medical oversight is wasted at that stage.

Once my brother was declared soon-to-be terminal in a major Sydney public hospital and a decision was made to remove life-support, he was out of ICU into a side room with only morphine and left to die. Palliation was insufficient btw, he was never after removal from ICU seen by a doc or given further nursing care. At least, Covid madness didn’t prevail. All family members were allow in to visit and stay and say our last to him. We had to walk masked through the ICU to do that.

Roger
Roger
January 13, 2022 12:07 pm

He ended the decree by citing Pope Francis, who last year called being vaccinated with the experimental and abortion-tainted shot an “act of love.” “Love for yourself, love for friends and family, love for all people.”

The love of God is strangely absent from that formula.

I recall that Bishop Fulton Sheen – the Catholic Billy Graham, if you will – said that the antichrist will sit in God’s temple and promote a religion of the brotherhood of mankind from which the love of [the triune] God is absent.

Roger
Roger
January 13, 2022 12:09 pm

Has Yassie Able Magpie got herself a gig there yet?

She recently wrote a piece about her new life in Paris and how welcoming people there were.

I’d take that as an indicator that employment opportunities in the old dart weren’t thick on the ground.

Perhaps her reputation preceded her.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 13, 2022 12:11 pm

feelthebernsays:

January 13, 2022 at 7:59 am

This is the problem.
The official data says only 536k people in NSW out of 8mill have had COVID.
Say the number is double or triple that.
We still are no where near where we need to be.

Patience, ‘bern, patience.
That daily tally of 70,000 will be 150,000 – 200,000 in no time.
Say, 1,250,000 cases a week by end January.
The Ro number is your friend.
By end February, 93.1% of people will have had it.
And 93.1% of those will be scratching their heads about Omicron being a non event.
Yep.
Some will get sick and a few will die.
Like a lot of respiratory illnesses.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 13, 2022 12:12 pm

The standing joke has always been that the smallest man gets the biggest gun in the section.

There were two opposing schools of thought in the gang of functioning alcoholics and heavily armed sex deviates who made up the A.D.F. in the early 1970’s/1980/s. One was that the smallest man carried the machine gun – his centre of gravity was lower to the ground, and he wouldn’t have so far to fall – the other was the largest man in the section carried the gun – he could carry more ammunition.

Dot
Dot
January 13, 2022 12:13 pm

Okay, this one is verifable.

https://ifunny.co/picture/yes-the-vaccine-changes-your-dna-a-tiny-bit-that-fsPgJ1l79

Yes, The Vaccine Changes Your DNA. A Tiny Bit. That’s A Good Thing. – Steven Salzberg

Yes, The Vaccine Does Change Your DNA. So Does The Virus. The Vaccine Is Far Safer. – Steven Salzberg

Covid Vaccines Don’t Alter Your DNA They Help Choose Cells To Strengthen Your Immune Response
– Steven Salzberg

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
January 13, 2022 12:13 pm

Perhaps her reputation preceded her.

Or her personality accompanied her.

Baba
Baba
January 13, 2022 12:13 pm

What are we worshipping now? A living god who wants us to live up to his standards and be able to walk proudly with him or the fear of an endemic disease and statism?

Is it possible to believe in God while having no faith in the power of prayer?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
January 13, 2022 12:13 pm

Perhaps her reputation preceded her.

Completely saturated market.

France will only be worse.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 13, 2022 12:16 pm

Always fun when some academic proves true what we’ve been saying on the Cat for years and years.

‘We conclude’ or ‘I believe?’ Study finds rationality declined decades ago (12 Jan)

Scientists from Wageningen University and Research (WUR) and Indiana University have discovered that the increasing irrelevance of factual truth in public discourse is part of a groundswell trend that started decades ago.

While the current “post-truth era” has taken many by surprise, the study shows that over the past forty years, public interest has undergone an accelerating shift from the collective to the individual, and from rationality towards emotion.

Key graph. The trouble with this is if you base yourself on emotion not facts eventually rude reality is going to come along and mug you. That seems more and more likely re the crazy climate, Covid and socialism stuff.

Eyrie
Eyrie
January 13, 2022 12:20 pm

That seems more and more likely re the crazy climate, Covid and socialism stuff.

Not to forget macroeconomics, neo Keynesian economics, causes of much terrorism etc.

Lysander
Lysander
January 13, 2022 12:20 pm

BoN
interesting article! i had to do some “leadership training” recently and our expert trainer told us:

“It is now widely acknowledged that humans are not rational beings. We think we make decisions based on reason why, in fact, we make decisions and then make up the reasons afterwards.”

I was quite shocked that this is now being openly admitted (and, yes discussing this some ten years ago at the Cat!)…..

twostix
twostix
January 13, 2022 12:20 pm

Did anyone ever ask old people in aged care homes that we are ordered at the point of a gun to sacrifice our own lives and childrens lives for to ‘protect’ – now two years and counting, if they even wanted the last couple of months and years of their already overwhelmingly dismal prison-institution-like, neglected lives to be under strict and brutal solitary confinement?

Consider that we’re never actually hearing from them. We’re always hearing that it’s best for them from the people that built and dumped them into that system in the first place.

We all know what their answer is.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 13, 2022 12:21 pm

Original rat test.

Rat who detected land mines in Cambodia dies in retirement (12 Jan)

A land mine-detecting rat in Cambodia who received a prestigious award for his life-saving duty has died in retirement, the charity for which he had worked has announced.

Magawa, an African giant pouched rat, passed away last weekend, said an announcement on the website of APOPO, a Belgium-headquartered non-profit group. The organization trains rats and dogs to sniff out land mines and tuberculosis.

Died aged 8. Well done that animal.

egg_
egg_
January 13, 2022 12:21 pm

Has Yassie Able Magpie got herself a gig there yet?

With the Rich Old White Men hosts?

At least SBS has a starchy Chunk to host “Celebrity” Letters and Numbers

Lysander
Lysander
January 13, 2022 12:22 pm

Today is just one of those days where I want to do what Peter Hitchens says: “Go home, build a wall and check out of society”

Roger
Roger
January 13, 2022 12:23 pm

Is it possible to believe in God while having no faith in the power of prayer?

Intellectuals can reason themselves into a belief in the probability of God’s existence without ever conceiving of God as personal.

The crucial thing to note is that in the New Testament the key issue is not belief per se but faith, which in the Greek is a synonym of trust. Once you conceive of God – revealed to us by and in Jesus who is God incarnate – as a person in whom you trust, prayer follows naturally.

C.L.
C.L.
January 13, 2022 12:24 pm

As I was saying…

The Premier has revealed her “shock” as Queensland records 14,914 new cases and six deaths, marking its deadliest day of the pandemic so far…

Chief health officer Dr John Gerrard two of the deaths were people in their 70s, three were in their 80s and one in their 90s.

Five of the six were double vaccinated, one was unvaccinated and none had had their booster shot. Three died in residential aged care.

Courier Mail
—————–

See what he did there? The vaccines have failed – so booster.

Dot
Dot
January 13, 2022 12:25 pm

Kim Iversen: Spain & Israel Finally GIVE UP Containing Covid. Mom Locks Son In Trunk To Avoid Covid.

Jan 13, 2022

The Hill
1.47M subscribers
Kim Iversen asks “where do we go from here?” in regards to Covid.

A listener says:

The pandemic didn’t make us go nuts, it’s not something that humanity hasn’t gone through before. How this pandemic was treated by government and main stream media, is what made people go nuts.

Well I never saw The Hill as “right wing”.

The comments seem to indicate Americans, left and right, are over this nonsense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fRVt59EPsQ

duncanm
duncanm
January 13, 2022 12:26 pm

Blazing Saddles (co-written by black comedian Richard Pryor)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5haNshEhYc

Roger
Roger
January 13, 2022 12:27 pm

Today is just one of those days where I want to do what Peter Hitchens says: “Go home, build a wall and check out of society”

Even if you can’t do it now, Lysander, it’s something you can begin to work towards.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 13, 2022 12:31 pm

A living god who wants us to live up to his standards and be able to walk proudly with him or the fear of an endemic disease and statism?

Who is more Christian?
Pope Frankie of Twitter?
Or Monty Burns when he set up his own religion to get tax exempt status.

calli
calli
January 13, 2022 12:32 pm

I always nail it but no one ever notices.

*sob*

Dot
Dot
January 13, 2022 12:33 pm

What?

Outrageous! Ronald MacDonald House EVICTS 4 Year Old Cancer Patient Over Poke Status!

Jan 13, 2022

TheQuartering

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI5icqSCcwc

calli
calli
January 13, 2022 12:33 pm

Punched, filled and sanded back before you notice. Like a true artisan.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
January 13, 2022 12:34 pm

She recently wrote a piece about her new life in Paris and how welcoming people there were.

Ms Abdel-Magied might be welcome in Saint Denis, a popular North African banlieue where the cops patrol in hardened cars.

Elsewhere, less so.
Wherever you go, there’s a fairly limited market for minor celeb’s polishing their buttons and explaining how shite their host country is.

Pogria
Pogria
January 13, 2022 12:34 pm

Boambee John.

thanks for your reply to my “parasite” post.

I had thought of symbiotic, but then came to the conclusion that, although the pollies originally started feeding off their media lackeys to what they thought was their own advantage, the media has morphed into a huge worm, like the one in “Evolution”, and is devouring its former Bot Fly in residence.

Lampreys come to mind. Lampreys grab hold of a passing fish and suck the life out of it. Inside the Lamprey itself are nasty little flukes chewing away at its internal organs.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 13, 2022 12:36 pm

Ms Abdel-Magied might be welcome in Saint Denis, a popular North African banlieue where the cops patrol in hardened cars.

Is that where her coreligionists celebrate the New Year by setting fire to parked cars?

Roger
Roger
January 13, 2022 12:39 pm

Ms Abdel-Magied might be welcome in Saint Denis, a popular North African banlieue where the cops patrol in hardened cars.

Elsewhere, less so.
Wherever you go, there’s a fairly limited market for minor celeb’s polishing their buttons and explaining how shite their host country is.

I don’t recall her mentioning where she was staying, Dr. F, but she was riding the Metro frequently.

On the latter point, I don’t know… France might be ripe for a bit of Aussie bashing atm?

She could cash in!

bespoke
bespoke
January 13, 2022 12:39 pm

dopeysays:
January 13, 2022 at 11:47 am
Nearly lunchtime and no one seems to have ‘nailed it’ today.

But we will always have the reliable ‘correct’ to take up the slack.

egg_
egg_
January 13, 2022 12:40 pm

Dopey nailed it to the wrong mast.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
January 13, 2022 12:42 pm

On the latter point, I don’t know… France might be ripe for a bit of Aussie bashing atm?

She could cash in!

Good point.

C.L.
C.L.
January 13, 2022 12:43 pm

LOL:

Dr Gerrard said the state will change the way it reports Covid deaths.

“Because of the widespread vaccination in the community and the complex medical conditions it is difficult to work out if an individual patient has died from the virus,” he said.

“From now on we will simply report the deaths and individuals who have had a positive Covid test around the time of their death.”

Roger
Roger
January 13, 2022 12:46 pm

Dr Gerrard said the state will change the way it reports Covid deaths.

“Because of the widespread vaccination in the community and the complex medical conditions it is difficult to work out if an individual patient has died from the virus,” he said.

Well, at least he’s being honest.

Not much of that about in his cadre.

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  1. Just watched a movie called Ricky Stanicky. Who should pop up but Stan Grant playing himself as a TV journalist.…

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