3,373 thoughts on “Open Thread – Mon 17 Jan 2022”

  1. Pogriasays:

    January 19, 2022 at 12:01 pm

    Sancho,
    the latest update from Daily Mail.

    Ah, OK.
    So it looks like the “last seen Thursday evening” came from mummy and new daddy.
    I am betting grandma was keeping a close tab on things from afar and they couldn’t stall her any longer.


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  2. If politicians and the media refuse to accept this, you’ll know that it’s nothing to do with the science.

    Presumably the scientists are able to lay out a set of options and the likely outcome of each according to whatever theory is popular at the time. From there the administrative and political caste take control and make a choice according to whatever criteria they choose. Following this the scientists are coopted to implement it–some would say to provide cover for–according to the best of their technical ability. This seems fairly obvious distinction between scientific advice pre and post fact a course of action being chosen by non scientists acting under various levels of advice. A distinction we are all waiting for the press to latch onto in their coverage because it is getting a bit tedious by now, offensively so.


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  3. Andrews has suggested that the number of industries that will have third dose vaccine mandates imposed will likely grow, …

    All the peasants that were contemplating a second jab suddenly gave up on that idea.
    The enjabbenated tag is impossible to reach.


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  4. Working from home today.
    Tucker is on fire.
    “Manufactured Crisis”.
    He’s talking drugs & homelessness.
    Could be applied to so many other aspects of western democracies today.


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  5. “The usual trick is to bury the evidence.”

    The MSM (the ALPBC will of course lead the charge) will cover the evidence – with a pillow, until it stops breathing.
    If that fails, and/or they detect that the tide has turned, they will RedCon and pivot their way into being “heroes” that “uncovered” the mal/mis-feasance, with politicians and/or “scientists”/”experts” being thrown under the nearest bus. That the MSM themselves covered it up in the first place will be studiously ignored.
    Rinse and repeat until the plebs go back to sleep.

    Welcome to your Brave New Fahrenheit 1984 Vendetta – you’ll own nothing and we’ll you’ll be happy.


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  6. do you have a name for the Captain of the Deloraine?

    Lieutenant Commander Desmond Menlove.

    Unfortunate surname, but apparently an excellent commander of his men. He forged HMAS Deloraine, a new ship with an all Reserve crew, into a very effective fighting platform within a few months of taking command in July 1941, and arriving in Darwin in December.

    I knew a few of the chaps from Deloraine and interviewed them. If the bridge command team had not been so well trained and on the ball the I-124’s torpedo would have hit them. The immediate course change when the torpedo was sighted saved the ship. Frank Marsh, who was loading depth charges on the quarterdeck, said he thanked God every day of his life thereafter for Desmond Menlove.


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  7. Why is he saying anything? Scumbag always wants to inject himself into everything. From The Daily Telegraph……

    “Scott Morrison’s embarrassing blunder in tribute to girl found dead

    Scott Morrison awkwardly said he “hoped” a nine-year-old girl was okay before almost breaking down when told on live television that a body had been found.

    Scott Morrison has awkwardly sent “thoughts and prayers” to the family of a nine-year-old girl, not appearing to know her body had been found, before revising his comments.

    A 32-year-old man has been charged with the girl’s murder after human remains were found in a barrel in the NSW Blue Mountains on Tuesday. The gruesome discovery was made after a five-day search for the girl.

    The Prime Minister said on Wednesday he “couldn’t imagine” the difficulty the girl’s family were going through.

    He then followed up with a bizarre comment saying he “hoped” the nine year-old was okay.

    “I have been following this privately, this matter … I can’t imagine what the parents and their community have been going through,” Mr Morrison said.

    “I – look, you know, hope for the best and pray for it but it doesn’t always occur. My thoughts and prayers frankly are with the family today and that little girl.”

    He added: “I hope she’s alright. I really do. I’m sure we all do.”

    “Let’s hope that that has a good ending and if that’s someone who’s been brought to justice, then that is also very important.”

    Mr Morrison later appeared to be on the verge of tears when told a body had been found.

    He apologised when asked if he wanted to revise his comments.

    “I’m sorry. I hadn’t seen that before I came out today. That is devastating news. I’m very sorry that…, I’ve been engaged in other issues, as I’m sure you can imagine. Having heard that news, that’s… It’s just… devastating. Thank you.”


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  8. it is assumed that everyone has the memory of a goldfish.

    Most do… the common answer I get to “sorry to hear you are sick, so it doesn’t work then?”
    is “It was never meant to stop you catching it”

    oh but it was.


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  9. Could much of the dissatisfaction with politics really be because neither branch of the UniParty actually does what it says on the box? The Liars actually do a better job of delivering for their constituents.

    The Libs have been losing votes because of this for a decade.

    Coal miners might disagree about the last point, Bear.


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  10. Lysandersays:
    January 19, 2022 at 12:03 pm
    Some good questions that need answering

    Why is the phrase “Gain of Function” used instead of the more precise “Increased lethality” when referring to the Fauci directed and funded work at Wuhan.?


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  11. Why is he saying anything? Scumbag always wants to inject himself into everything.

    Morrison is trying to win an election by pretending to be a busybody who wants to fix everything while achieving nothing – the latest thought bubble being that foreigners who won’t get vaccines that don’t work must be banned.


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  12. Today we learn why the Sputnik vax had to be ok’d.
    Fees waived on temporary worker visa’s.
    175,000 of them.
    Good luck with that pay rise little people.


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  13. Had a quick shufti at Fightradar24.
    Either kevni is waging an aircraft noise campaign in the Ukraine
    or there aren’t too many willing to risk a Buk in the face.


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  14. Reading earlier in the news an article about the drop in consumer confidence and the resultant retail slump and what is causing it .. lotza economic theories .. blah .. blah blah .. and the, now familar, BAT FLU ect ..!
    None hinted that it may be as simple, across the board, as why others, like me, ain’t spending much .. After being locked down and banned from retail because of UNCLEAN, for lengthy periods, I’ve just got out of the habit of window shopping and impulse spending .. I buy groceries, fruit and, maybe once a week, wander around the local shopping centre for something to do but the urge to buy isn’t there anymore .. in fact the whole “going to the shops” routine doesn’t really have the appeal it once did ….


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  15. Fresh calls for a new Australian flag WITHOUT the Union Jack – as Peter Fitzsimons pushes for the country to ditch the Queen

    By KEVIN AIRS FOR DAILY MAIL AUSTRALIA

    High-profile columnist Peter FitzSimons wants to rip the Union Jack from the Australian flag if the nation becomes a republic.

    The former Wallaby and husband of TV host Lisa Wilkinson shared a proposed redesign of the nation’s flag featuring the Southern Cross with the Aboriginal flag in the space currently occupied by the Union Jack.

    FitzSimons retweeted the proposed change, included the caption: ‘This would at least be a step in the right direction.’

    The flag sparked debate on social media, with many wanting a new design – but not that one.

    The writer shared a redesign of the nation’s flag featuring the Southern Cross with the Aboriginal flag inset in the corner (pictured)

    ‘Honestly it would feel more than a bit disrespectful to fly the Aboriginal flag to represent our nation as a whole,’ said one, echoing previous arguments that the red-black-yellow flag belonged to the indigenous people and should not be taken away and repurposed.

    Another commented simply on the jarring aesthetics and added: ‘Unfortunately it’s hideously ugly. Steak and ice cream.’

    One sharp-eyed movie fan pointed out that Sam Neill had worn the same design on his arm in the 1997 movie Event Horizon.

    The flag design sparked debate on social media (pictured), with many wanting a new design – but not the one FitzSimons posted
    Other tweets mocked the rough and ready style of the design (pictured)

    FitzSimons, 60, leads the Australian Republican Movement, which wants to replace the Queen with an Aussie as head of state.

    He has now set up a company dedicated to finding a new design for the Australian national flag and also for state and territory emblems.

    He is one of the directors of Ausflag, alongside politicians, celebrities, writers and businessmen including Vince Sorrenti, Ray Martin, Philip Adams and Anne Keating.

    Daily Mail


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  16. Custard; I think it depends on State laws if you get coof and then need jab or not.

    From WA, I believe the answer is you need two shots, a booster or fuck off and die (McClown quote and not my sentiment)


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  17. He is one of the directors of Ausflag, alongside politicians, celebrities, writers and businessmen including Vince Sorrenti, Ray Martin, Philip Adams and Anne Keating.

    I don’t know who Vince Sorrenti but the others- tired old turds who won’t go away. Why don’t they ask Michelle Grattan to join ? Or Malcolm Fraser (sarc)?


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  18. Odd that the revenge strip-search assault of Renata Voracova by vaxxer Border Force didn’t take off as an issue in the media. If she was found in Customs pissed and in the company of a Liberal staffer, it would have been a different story.


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  19. feelthebern says:
    January 19, 2022 at 12:35 pm
    Today we learn why the Sputnik vax had to be ok’d.
    Fees waived on temporary worker visa’s.
    175,000 of them.
    Good luck with that pay rise little people.

    These would be the replacements for the sacked health workers, teachers, tradies, engineers etc who refused to get the death jab.


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  20. Hi Custard

    Based on wife researching it for Qld:

    – do not recommend any vax for 4 weeks post infection (nor testing as it will show positive due to past infection)
    – natural immunity is strong for 6 months
    – however they still recommend vax (or booster) after 4 weeks as your natural immunity is to that strain and not others etc etc.

    Yes it is strange how long Novavax is taking but apparently due to being shut out of US production they are using India and it is proving hard to get reliable production. All testitng has been great – just can’t make it safely.


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  21. however they still recommend vax (or booster) after 4 weeks as your natural immunity is to that strain and not others etc etc.

    Riiight, so getting a booster for the Alpha strain is somehow better?


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  22. Top Ender,

    thanks very much for Lieutenant Commanders’ name.

    I have heard of Lieutenant Commander Menlove. His name has appeared in a couple of books I have read. While I am particularly interested in learning about War, apart from watching docos, I have only recently started reading about it. My parents lived through WWII in Europe so it is close to home.


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  23. Barry says:
    January 19, 2022 at 12:30 pm
    Why is the phrase “Gain of Function” used instead of the more precise “Increased lethality” when referring to the Fauci directed and funded work at Wuhan.?

    “Gain of function” makes it sound like you’re making it better, a positive thing for Mankind.
    Otherwise known as lying.


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  24. it is assumed that everyone has the memory of a goldfish.

    The ‘recollection’ of most will be shaped by the MSM narrative. If called to account the politicians will duck for cover by saying they were acting on “the best health advice available” and the whole thing will be allowed to subside (at least in terms of accountability). The unspoken arrangement between the MSM and the politicians will be in return for the MSM not hammering the politicians too hard, the MSM will not be subject to official enquiries on their role in publishing data/comment that was ‘erroneous’ or not in the public interest.

    Thus, the public’s ‘recollection’ will be shaped and massaged.

    Bear in mind that there is a large percentage of people who actually support government actions to date so little, if any, shaping of their recollection will be necessary. They will sit back and nod their heads in agreement. There are only a few sites, such as the Cat, that will query, question and refute the official narrative but collectively those sites have very limited national input/coverage.


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  25. His lawyer also said he has been prescribed Seroquel and Risperidone, both antipsychotic medications, “for many years”.

    But his family is wealthy so there’s that.


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  26. Top Endersays:
    January 19, 2022 at 9:56 am
    Australian Lamb National Rollout annual advert….

    2:00 – Russian CNN on telly.

    Folder of “Hillary C” emails and a “Trump Kompromat” tape in the VCR.


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  27. Speaking of Morro needing to shut the fuck up about everything, this is absolutely priceless:

    Visa fee refund offered to entice students, backpackers to fill COVID worker shortage

    In an attempt to help prop up a number of industries facing worker shortages, the federal government will provide a fee rebate to any students or backpackers who come back to Australia in the next few months.

    (…)

    It is hoped the move will be enough to entice the roughly 150,000 students and 23,500 backpackers who currently hold a visa and are not in the country.

    Okay, let me get this straight. We’re still going to rob the visa holders who were prevented from coming to Australia (or were booted out) of the money they paid to obtain said visas if they decide not to accept this incredible offer? Morro makes his case:

    That is a thankyou to [students] for coming back and continuing to choose Australia, but we also want them to come here and be able to be filling some of these critical workforce shortages,” Prime Minister Scott Morrison said.

    “Particularly those who are working and being trained in healthcare, aged care, those types of sectors, that will be incredibly helpful.”

    We fucked you over before, but come back now, please! We need you! Look, I’m even dangling a few crumbs in front of you to sweeten the deal.

    Mr Morrison also encouraged backpackers to come and both work and holiday in Australia to help the country’s hard-hit tourism industry.

    “My message to them is — come on down,” he said.

    “Come on down now because you wanted to come to Australia, you got your visa, we want you to come to Australia and enjoy a holiday here in Australia.

    “Move all the way around the country, and at the same time join our workforce and help us in our agricultural sector, in our hospitality sector, and so many of the other parts of the economy that rely on that labour, on that workforce right now.”

    Students with visas have 8 weeks to enter the country to get the visa fee rebate. Backpackers/ working holiday types have 12 weeks. I can think of a few reasons why these people wanted to come on down but no longer want to:

    – who wants to visit prison island?
    – who wants to get the Novak Djokovic treatment?
    – who wants to spin the roulette wheel on whether they get caught up in the capricious, arbitrary fuckery that’s afoot in various forms in the various jurisdictions across Australia?
    – Covid camps. ’nuff said.
    – has the Prime Minister seen the price of airfares recently?

    It boggles the mind that the federal government believes the damage to Australia’s desirability as a travel destination incurred over the past two years is so minor that offering the above pathetic incentive will have them all flocking back. Who would want to come to this authoritarian shithole? I certainly wouldn’t recommend anyone visit unless they absolutely have to.


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  28. The Italian Constitutional Court has paved the way for migrant families with work permits of more than six months to receive the Italian government’s baby bonus and maternity allowance, ruling that the previous requirement of a long-term stay permit is unconstitutional.

    t was the Italian Cassation Court that raised doubts about the legitimacy of the condition for receiving the subsidy for newborns — which ranges between €80 and €160 per month for a year in the case of the first child, based on the family’s economic situation declared on the ISEE form — and the maternity allowance.

    Meanwhile…
    Birth rate in Italy hits new record low.

    The average number of children per woman living in Italy fell to 1.24 in 2020, with this rate even lower for Italian women – 1.17 – the lowest ever.

    The highest number of births was recorded in Bolzano in the north (1.62) and the lowest on the island of Sardinia (0.94).


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  29. Custard, my thoughts
    Mask exemptions should apply to anyone with susceptibility to throat, lung, skin, allergy or psychological conditions… but they don’t, because no GP is game to write one in defiance to the CHO / NWO.
    Same goes for hypothetical jab exemptions. They do no exist, or will not exist for long (three month jab anyone?) because the CHO / NWO want to have every prole and the whole of the medical sector under their yoke.


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  30. Union Pacific is considering changes to rail operations including avoiding Los Angeles County as a rise of cargo theft in the area hurts business.

    The problems have escalated for months as imports surge through the twin ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach, and freight sits idle for weeks before heading north or eastward on trucks and trains. Theft is adding to the multitude of logistical headaches that have slowed the movement of goods to American store shelves and factory warehouses to such a degree that the White House felt pressure to get involved.

    UP is calling on local law-enforcement officials to prosecute more aggressively.


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  31. ‘Honestly it would feel more than a bit disrespectful to fly the Aboriginal flag to represent our nation as a whole,’ said one, echoing previous arguments that the red-black-yellow flag belonged to the indigenous people and should not be taken away and repurposed.

    Whether it “belongs to” indigenous people is debatable. However what is not debatable is that the Aboriginal flag is devisive and should not be flown by Australian governments. Nor should that other silly one of the bloke bending over.


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  32. Pope Francis himself, who has spoken of the vaccine with respect to COVID-19 as ‘an act of love,’

    Despite what the pope and the media think, his words are not law, just his opinion and can be ignored.


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  33. Soon to be six months past the second jab and beginning to feel like an outlaw.
    No effort required in becoming a dangerous and hated citizen these days.
    I’ve begun wearing my Collingwood gear and cancelled the dentist appointment.
    The fridge is loaded with Woodstock and the pantry is packed with jerky.


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  34. My kid is about to turn 18.

    Not at all academic, but a good conscientious worker. Best job market I’ve seen in years for jobs that suit him.

    Now Morro wants to bring in a whole lot of cheap labour to undercut him. Fuck you Morro. Voted Liberal for the past 35 years. Never again.

    Labor supports immigration since it provides them voters.
    Libs/Nats support immigration since it provides big donors with cheap labour.

    WTFTD?


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  35. “Move all the way around the country, and at the same time join our workforce and help us in our agricultural sector, in our hospitality sector, and so many of the other parts of the economy that rely on that labour, on that workforce right now.”

    I, a citizen of this country, am not allowed to move freely “all the way around the country”, but they are encouraged to? That’s nice…


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  36. I’m old enough to remember when Vic CHO Brett Sutton said the vaccines would reduce transmission by as much as 60%.

    You’re a baby, Farmer Gez. In my days, I remember, they were saying – it’s 95% effective, just take your two jabs and get your freedoms back.


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  37. Andrews is not doing himself any favors. Awful lot of people feel coerced or outright forced into taking the two does, and the constant talk about how great it was to get to over 90% will reinforce that.

    Indeed, I know a few people who eventually yielded, spitting and foaming, having held out as long as they could – and they are absolutely seething – they feel like they have been raped. Our wise masters are making a big mistake if they think ‘92% jabbed’ = 92% support


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  38. Rockdoctor says:
    January 19, 2022 at 1:16 pm

    About 7-10 days ago, the polling for the LNP was disastrous. Even if half of those polled carried through with their stated voting intentions, the LNP will be swept from power and could look forward to 2 terms on the opposition benches.

    It remains to be seen of course but Scotty will need to pull off his best Lazarus impersonation if the LNP are not to sink into electoral oblivion.


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  39. For those sneering something like “I want to see the policy on sniffing dogs bums before I vote for them. ” Just F off.

    FFS look what we have now you morons. They are not going to get in anyway.


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  40. Could a kind Cat please advise that if you are tested positive to the ChinaVirus does that mean you are exempt from the jab? Asking for a friend.

    The messaging is a bit confusing – ATAGI certainly states the following as qualifying for a ‘temporary’ exemption – ‘PCR-confirmed SARS-CoV-2 infection, where vaccination can be deferred until 6 months after the infection’.

    However, to get said exemption requires your GP to fill out an ‘ Australian Immunisation Register (AIR) – immunisation medical exemption form (IM011)’ and said form lists several other illnesses as qualifying for natural immunity exemptions (mumps, measles etc) but NOT SARSCoV2. With the large number of people who are now sporting ‘PCR Positive’ text messages, no doubt this will be tested shortly.


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  41. “Gain of function” makes it sound like you’re making it better, a positive thing for Mankind.
    Otherwise known as lying.

    They are doing this in multiple ways, eg

    ‘Vaccines’ instead of ‘marginally effective pretreatment drugs’

    and

    ‘Boosters’ instead of ‘Remedial Shots’


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  42. It remains to be seen of course but Scotty will need to pull off his best Lazarus impersonation if the LNP are not to sink into electoral oblivion.

    The election is Albo’s to lose. And once they start rolling out their policies I’m sure a bit of shine will come off Labor’s lead… whether that’s enough is another thing.


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  43. Brisbane Lions AFLW coach Craig Starcevich has called for the sport’s elite male counterparts to “give up a piece of the pie” to help fast-track women becoming full-time professional footballers.

    Why don’t you make way for a woman, Craig?


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  44. Data as at 17/1/22 is that the current average (across all states and territories) of Australians who have received 2 jabs is 92.63%. Nationally, 95.12% have had a single dose. 16.61% of children (5-11) have had their first dose.


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  45. Woolfe Johnson is right!
    You can’t make Democracy in the Antipodes much worse.
    And then in Danistan we have police terrorizing Dan’s political opponents, but don’t worry its only other people.


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  46. Well, it was inevitable, I guess — our daughter in Sinney has just rung to say she has Covid.

    Positive side? Her symptoms: sore throat, which is managed nicely by Nurofen — and a headache if she forgets to take her Nurofen. That’s it. Zip all else.

    She’s had two AZ shots. She’s 36, very fit and healthy. She only needs to self-isolate for 7 days, so we have our fingers crossed for her. Fortunately, she can also work from home, so lesser chance of boredom from isolation. Even so … gave my stomach a nasty flip-flop when I heard the news.


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  47. Mask exemptions should apply to anyone with susceptibility to throat, lung, skin, allergy or psychological conditions… but they don’t, because no GP is game to write one in defiance to the CHO / NWO. Same goes for hypothetical jab exemptions. They do no exist, or will not exist for long (three month jab anyone?) because the CHO / NWO want to have every prole and the whole of the medical sector under their yoke.

    Correct, I wrote dozens of vaccine and mask exemptions last year. ALL the vax exemptions were binned by the CHO, but NONE of the mask exemptions have ever been questioned – I regularly walk around face naked and have never been challenged about it.


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  48. Albo just needs to stay in hiding, do a few Labor gigs for the ABC cameras and adoring rusted ons and keep the Labor women talking.

    The retardation of the city dwellers will take care of the rest. Hail our new king!


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  49. Labor supports immigration since it provides them voters.
    Libs/Nats support immigration since it provides big donors with cheap labour.

    Their policy won’t be out yet but Labor have opposed re-opening the immigration floodgates post-covid.


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  50. Wow internal polls must be precipitously bad for Scomo.

    I’m starting to notice the pre-campaign barrage of Commonwealth Government how-good-is-that TV ads.

    Moron from Marketing won’t get away with the joy of recycling PET bottles into park benches.


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  51. Barrysays:
    January 19, 2022 at 1:15 pm

    Now Morro wants to bring in a whole lot of cheap labour to undercut him. Fuck you Morro. Voted Liberal for the past 35 years. Never again.

    Labor supports immigration since it provides them voters.
    Libs/Nats support immigration since it provides big donors with cheap labour.

    WTFTD?

    Vote minor parties. Put LNP/ALP/GRN last.

    That is what I will be doing.


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  52. flyingduk says:
    January 19, 2022 at 1:24 pm

    Indeed, I know a few people who eventually yielded, spitting and foaming, having held out as long as they could – and they are absolutely seething – they feel like they have been raped.

    What? Feeling as if they have been violated by the Stairman? That’s never happened, surely!


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  53. Wow internal polls must be precipitously bad for Scomo. He’s looking desperate…

    Desperate?

    I want to see him crying “mea culpa” and on his knees begging for voters to return.


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  54. Data as at 17/1/22 is that the current average (across all states and territories) of Australians who have received 2 jabs is 92.63%. Nationally, 95.12% have had a single dose. 16.61% of children (5-11) have had their first dose.

    My favourite is the ACT, which claims 98.6% of those over 12 are ‘fully vaccinated’ – yet has still managed to chalk up over 15,000 ‘cases’ since new year – or over 3 per remaining dirty pureblood.


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  55. I, a citizen of this country, am not allowed to move freely “all the way around the country”, but they are encouraged to? That’s nice…

    This! I am beyond livid at the dumb idiots utter nerve in uttering this complete insult to the citizenry


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  56. I want to see him crying “mea culpa” and on his knees begging for voters to return.

    He needs to do more than that.
    I would tell you except it is not that sort of blog.


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  57. I want to see him crying “mea culpa” and on his knees begging for voters to return.

    I want to see him torn into 4 pieces by horses, his head ripped off and my dog shitting down his neck – as a prelude …


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  58. miltonf says:
    January 19, 2022 at 8:06 am

    I agree with all the comments re Palmer and there are a lot of contradictions on the UAP site eg we saved the RET! The Gore connection is a big worry too.

    Clive’s support for Howard’s RET was a disappointment, but he may have moved on from that? The UAP policy now is for nuclear energy in Australia which will make the RET redundant, there’s no need for windmills when you have all the energy you need from emission free nuclear.

    I’d prefer more coal fired generators as they are cheaper, but nuclear is cheaper than windmills and guarantees reliable supply.

    In any event, I’m not voting for Clive, I’m voting for Craig.


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  59. It’s all about Clive baby….


    “Billionaire Clive Palmer has announced he will run for the Australian senate at the upcoming federal election.

    The businessman and former federal MP will lead the Queensland ticket for his United Australia Party, putting himself in direct competition with Pauline Hanson and former Queensland Premier Campbell Newman.”

    No thanks. I hope either Campbell or Pauline get up.


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  60. flyingduksays:
    January 19, 2022 at 1:46 pm
    I want to see him crying “mea culpa” and on his knees begging for voters to return.

    I want to see him torn into 4 pieces by horses, his head ripped off and my dog shitting down his neck – as a prelude …

    Perhaps some of the more descriptive rants from recruit instructors could be applied….


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  61. flyingduk says:
    January 19, 2022 at 1:24 pm
    Indeed, I know a few people who eventually yielded, spitting and foaming, having held out as long as they could – and they are absolutely seething – they feel like they have been raped. Our wise masters are making a big mistake if they think ‘92% jabbed’ = 92% support

    Damn straight.


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  62. “In any event, I’m not voting for Clive, I’m voting for Craig.”

    You only vote for Craig if you’re in the seat of Hughes. And if Craig doesn’t win his seat (and there’s a high probability of that)…what next?


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  63. I’ll give that to the Libertarian candidate to help him defray some of his costs. He’s a local small businessman who in 2019 ran a good grass roots campaign on his own dime.


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  64. “I want to see him crying “mea culpa” and on his knees begging for voters to return.”

    It’s too late….he’s outed himself as a complete liar, fraud and phony.


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  65. I want to see him crying “mea culpa” and on his knees begging for voters to return.

    Whilst tied to a tree and covered in fire ants.

    With Golden Syrup poured on his empty scrote sac.


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  66. “I want to see him [Scomo] torn into 4 pieces by horses…”

    Read history – there are many, varied and extremely more painful ways to act with “extreme prejudice” against a traitor…


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  67. Felt a bit out of sorts yesterday, headache and an episodically runny nose, plus a yen to sleep for hours (which I did).

    Not much better today, although not much worse either.

    If this is as bad as it gets, I’ve had hangovers an order of magnitude worse.

    Back to bed!


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  68. Perhaps some of the more descriptive rants from recruit instructors could be applied….

    Blushes … as a direct entry RAAF Officer, I am embarrassed to say I avoided even basic training, being lucky enough to head to Timor almost the day my commission was granted. I do however remember a verbal communication sent my way by an army WO as I sauntered across his parade ground – he seemed to be having some sort of apoplectic fit


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  69. Woolfesays:

    January 19, 2022 at 1:29 pm

    For those sneering something like “I want to see the policy on sniffing dogs bums before I vote for them. ” Just F off.

    FFS look what we have now you morons. They are not going to get in anyway.

    By saying “look what we have now” are you suggesting the debate is about a choice between UAP or LNP?
    If so, that misrepresents what the discussion was about.
    It was generally about “which minor party” and was focusing in on LDP vs UAP.
    And many are saying yes to LDP and no to Fat Cloive on the basis of his proven selfishness in politics and his abject lack of policy.
    The big criticism of LNP voters is that they vote that way because “at least it’s not Labor”.
    What is the difference between that and “vote Fat Cloive. At least he’s not LNP/ALP/Green”.


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  70. Gabsays:
    January 19, 2022 at 10:59 am
    32 deaths WITH covid

    18 with 2 doses

    5 with 3 doses

    1 with 1 dose

    8 unvaccinated

    Now put it through the spin doctors and voila!

    NSW Health (@NSWHealth)
    Of the 32 people who died; 23 people had received at least two doses of a COVID-19 vaccine, one person had received one dose and eight were not vaccinated.



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  71. I didn’t say I’d believe him.

    Just that I want to see it.

    Does anybody here remember Malcolm Fraser’s trembling lower lip as he fought back tears?

    One of the high points of modern Australian politics.


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  72. There have been many accounts of omicron symptoms and to add one more, my local Australia Post contractor delivered a parcel to my place yesterday. He is a good bloke and we usually have a chat. I guess he is mid 60’s in age and revealed he had the coof a couple of weeks ago. (confirmed by test).

    His symptoms were sore throat, mild headache, mild congestion and profound tiredness. Claims he slept much more than usual over of the ~ three days he was ill. Overall, he compared it to a moderate grade cold or low grade ‘flu’.

    He has been back working for a few days with no lingering symptoms.


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  73. Some comments in the past, regards live cattle/sheep exports, by LDP luminaries may not be helpful to them garnering any votes beyond the goat cheese curtain.


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  74. Correct, I wrote dozens of vaccine and mask exemptions last year. ALL the vax exemptions were binned by the CHO, but NONE of the mask exemptions have ever been questioned

    where do I sign up?

    I’ve had three sinus infections since this mask bullshit came in. Only had one in my 50 years prior after (electric) planing a bunch of cedar without any protective gear.

    The stand-in for my usual GP refused to consider a temporary mask exemption while I was dripping toxic pus, let alone a permanent exemption. All she could say was ‘better get a test’. Useless, brain-dead lemming.


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  75. Faced with a funding freeze and the likely scrapping of the licence fee before 2027, the BBC has leapt into action to remind Britons of what great value they get for “just 43p a day.” Judging by the BBC’s declining viewership – I don’t think they have a single channel that leads in its market sector – most Britons might rather save that money for a pint at their local on the weekend.


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  76. Lysander says:
    January 19, 2022 at 12:40 pm

    Custard; I think it depends on State laws if you get coof and then need jab or not.

    From WA, I believe the answer is you need two shots, a booster or fuck off and die (McClown quote and not my sentiment)

    He doesn’t talk about boosters nowadays, he says you need the three shots. The term “boosters” will be reserved for the fourth jab.


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  77. This was commented upon upthread.

    A man has appeared in court charged with the murder of a missing schoolgirl who disappeared from the NSW Blue Mountains before her body was found in a barrel. Court documents reveal the girl was killed between 7pm on Tuesday January 11 and 10am January 12, but police were not made aware of her disappearance until days later.

    The girl was reported missing from a wedding estate in Mount Wilson about 8.20am Friday, sparking a major air and ground search. Police attended a Riley Street unit at Surry Hills about 8.30pm Tuesday and arrested a 32-year-old man, who was then charged with murder and refused bail. He briefly appeared at Central Local Court on Wednesday from the cells at Surry Hills police station where his lawyer requested he was protected in custody as he was worried about his safety.

    What?! The girl was killed on the Tuesday or the Wednesday but her ‘disappearance’ wasn’t reported until Friday. What kind of people are these? As for the accused’s safety, I have little concern for his welfare.


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  78. I, a citizen of this country, am not allowed to move freely “all the way around the country”, but they are encouraged to? That’s nice…

    On top of the insult to citizens unable to move freely around the country, it’s partly untrue – WA isn’t open to these people until Feb 5. It’s also a bullshit promise that’s as flimsy as Australia’s international reputation as a country governed by law. Any state premier could change the rules at any time and trash it. What are odds McGowan decides to preserve Fortress WA a little longer to please the Covid hysterics and keep the nervous normies on their toes? There’s a decent chance.


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  79. Vote minor parties. Put LNP/ALP/GRN last.

    Unfortunately they lurk greasily at the bottom of the preference list waiting and waiting for those yummy preferences to slip and slide and finally land in their gaping mouths like cane toads sucking up small innocent frogs.

    They don’t care they’re losing the $2.80 because one of them is still going to get your vote. There’re other ways to obtain money. Lots of nice sticky ways, once they’re in government.


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  80. I stopped taking the BBC seriously after a ridiculous ‘documentary’ about the y2k bug. The bLIAR effect was starting to kick in bigly. Sure it was always a bit leftie but it was pretty good once.


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  81. Sure it was always a bit leftie but it was pretty good once.

    It was a bit righty in my childhood. Compensating for lefty grandparents. May have contributed to my scepticism.


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  82. Sure it was always a bit leftie but it was pretty good once.

    The BBC has produced some great programs.

    Its zenith was probably Keneth Clark’s ‘Civilisation’ series.

    But that was produced in the late 60s (for the advent of colour TV; and it still stands out in many ways too).


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  83. The Ascent of Man too. Just brilliant.

    Interestingly, both series were commissioned by David Attenborough when he was at BBC2.

    Now that does show just how long ago the BBC’s zenith was!


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  84. Rogersays:
    January 19, 2022 at 2:45 pm
    The Ascent of Man too. Just brilliant.

    Interestingly, both series were commissioned by David Attenborough when he was at BBC2.

    Now that does show just how long ago the BBC’s zenith was!

    Given these days the sequel should be The Descent of a Species with Unspecified Gender Roles.


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  85. The highest number of births was recorded in Bolzano in the north (1.62)

    And the Bolzano (aka Bozen) region is also known as South Tyrol, with two-thirds of the population being German speakers. So the region with the highest birth rate are the ‘mountain Germans’.


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  86. he says you need the three shots

    One shot of 762 or 556 and that will sort the problem out, oh did that hurt McClown, so sad too bad and nobody will need anymore.


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  87. Interestingly, both series were commissioned by David Attenborough

    His docos were wonderful too. I’m very sad he caught climate disease. These days he goes on and on like a religious fanatic.

    David Attenborough warned ‘collapse of civilisations’ is ‘on the horizon’ (Express, 17 Jan)

    Nope, I’m not seeing anything in the real world data except a greening of the planet from the extra CO2. Yes there’s environmental degradation, but only where people are poor and governments are awful, especially due to socialism.


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  88. Whether it “belongs to” indigenous people is debatable. However what is not debatable is that the Aboriginal flag is devisive and should not be flown by Australian governments.

    I just see the Aboriginal flag as an attempt to represent a Nation/Nations that did not, and never did exist.


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  89. The Beeb produced a reboot of Civilisation. It was called “Civilisations”. It was crap. It was filled with all the usual religion bashing, re-telling of history to suit the narrative, blah blah blah.

    You could tell it was going to be crap because that dumb boot, Simon Schama had a big hand in it.

    It was so lame that nobody has even bothered to review it on its imdb page.

    Sunk without trace. Apropos.


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  90. Speaking of collapse of civilisations and birth rates.
    On a recent Babylon Bee podcast Elon Musk (channeling his inner Mark Steyn) warned that civilisation will collapse if birth rates are not increased. I didn’t expect this from him.


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  91. Speedbox says:
    January 19, 2022 at 1:33 pm
    Data as at 17/1/22 is that the current average (across all states and territories) of Australians who have received 2 jabs is 92.63%. Nationally, 95.12% have had a single dose. 16.61% of children (5-11) have had their first dose.

    If these numbers are correct & the “vaccines” actually work, then why the push to get that last 5 – 6 % injected with the toxin?? “Herd immunity” was supposed to happen around the 80%.

    Fucked if i know how anyone can look at what’s going on and attribute it to incompetence or not being able to stop digging that hole or saving face.

    Omicron will be used to bully & bluster and force repeated injections (monthly) and controls on everyone – even though they know it’s nothing more than a cold.

    As I’ve said before – it’s more than just corruption. If it was just corruption, those 280 million doses would be paid for & just sit in a warehouse somewhere. They intend to force that drug on everyone – from 6 month old babies up. They really want to inject everyone.

    So you gotta start asking yourself “WHY”


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  92. The Beeb produced a reboot of Civilisation.

    Yes; in light of the outstanding quality of the original I didn’t think it rated a mention, Pogria.

    I understand that they wanted to fill in some gaps but it was poorly done, no doubt with a loaded agenda to begin with. That’s why Clark’s series was so remarkable – Attenborough didn’t give him direction, he just let Clark unfold his ideas on civilisation as he went. A book accompanied the original series which I had but lost in my travels somewhere.


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  93. John of Melsays:
    January 19, 2022 at 3:02 pm
    Speaking of collapse of civilisations and birth rates.
    On a recent Babylon Bee podcast Elon Musk (channeling his inner Mark Steyn) warned that civilisation will collapse if birth rates are not increased. I didn’t expect this from him.

    Previous collapses may have arisen because previous generations built up the civilisation that required a large population to sustain the various institutions, infrastructure etc. The collapse of birth rates is a common feature in collapse so I can appreciate where they are coming from but I think it is dangerous to make the argument because I regard history as being discontinuous post WW2. We can automate so much now and our productivity can be enhanced without human labour being such a critical determinant. Just make sure we keep the robots happy.


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  94. Just make sure we keep the robots happy.

    Don’t the robots have plastic parts? Like made from the same stuff that is banned in supermarkets?


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  95. Speedbox

    It remains to be seen of course but Scotty will need to pull off his best Lazarus impersonation if the LNP are not to sink into electoral oblivion.

    SloMo literally fell over the line last time, sandbagging the marginals against the oleaginous Peanut Head. He’s finished. The Lieborals will be lucky not to be wiped out.


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  96. Fat Tony says:
    January 19, 2022 at 3:07 pm

    Yes, it’s bizarre.

    As at the 17th, NSW, VIC, TAS and CBR are all north of 90% double vax rate. The other states and territories are nearing 90% double vax with the NT at 86.3% through to SA at 89.9%.

    By the way, a national double vax rate of 92.6% is among the best in the world.

    Yesterday I posted this: Australia has one of the highest rates of adult vaccination (92.6% at 17/1/22) in the world. Yet, our daily infection rate (as a percentage of population) outstrips comparable 1st world nations who typically have much lower rates of vaccination (typically ~75%) among their populations. Further, about 21% of our population have already received the ‘booster’ shot and even 14% of our children (5-11) have received their 1st shot. On paper, this nation should be a global textbook for defence against covid with tiny infection rates. But we’re not.

    Why is that?

    So called ‘herd immunity’ should have kicked in long ago.


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  97. A remake of The Ascent of Man would be great. Episodes could include the impact of the Younger Dryas, our evolution in Africa, the populating of various land masses, the critical importance of beer in early civilisations and that alcohol may have been a major driver of agriculture, the role of religion in modifying human behavior. There is so much new material to work with. It will be probably be done but littered with PC crap with some show pony being the host. At least Bronowski was a brainiac but no hope of that happening again.


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  98. The man charged with the murder of a nine-year-old girl was caught on CCTV buying 100 kilograms of sand from a Bunnings store, before trying to dump her body in the Colo River, police will allege.

    They will further allege that the combination of her weight, the weight of the sand and the barrel concealing her, meant he was unable to get it into the water — with NSW Police left to make a grim discovery by the banks of the Colo River on Tuesday night.

    It is believed the young girl — who cannot legally be named — may have been dead for up to three days before her mother made a desperate call to Triple-zero to report her missing last Friday, January 14.

    Herald-Sun


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  99. Peanut not being elected showed that the electorate does have limits to its tolerance of idiots.

    He put so many feet wrong.
    Labor won’t be that stupid next time (?) plus this time Slomo isn’t a cleanskin & will have to campaign on his record, which may prove more difficult.

    Memorable moments:
    1. the bloke in Gladstone who pointed out Shorto’s tax policy of “hitting the rich” was going to hit half the people in the mining belts. The bloke lost his job, and the kerfuffle was such that the company he worked for lost their contract.

    Simply because he spoke the truth about what Shorto’s tax policy would do.
    (Wonder what happened to the journalists who reported it?)

    This backroom pressure on a working man sent a cold chill down the throats of everybody in Hi-Viz electorates.


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  100. On a recent Babylon Bee podcast Elon Musk (channeling his inner Mark Steyn) warned that civilisation will collapse if birth rates are not increased.

    Climate change won’t cause the collapse of civilization but irrational belief in “Climate Change™” just might. That and all the other stupid Marxist green-progressive religious doctrines, like the one about having children being bad for the planet. (The saga of climateer Eric Holthaus’s vasectomy was epic. Then he had two kids…)

    It was interesting that Hungary, when they renounced leftist cant and brought in decent encouragements for having children, the birth rate immediately rose.


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  101. Speedbox says:
    January 19, 2022 at 3:25 pm

    So called ‘herd immunity’ should have kicked in long ago.

    If the vaccine does not prevent transmission in some large percentage of recipients, herd immunity is impossible. This is the case here.


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  102. Bear – I believe (hope) you’re right but we can never discount the desperation of a politician who controls the Treasury.

    Having said that, the LNP margin cannot get any thinner with a one seat majority. On current polling and what appears to be the general ‘mood’ of the electorate in addition to the MSM who are salivating at the prospect of sticking it up Scotty and Friedburger (at least), I think two terms in opposition is probably the best the LNP can hope for. If they loose by HALF of the polling prediction, that equates to ~21 lost seats. If the full prediction came true, that would be some 39 seats (in which case at least 3 terms in opposition).

    Polls always have to be treated with caution but Scotty and Co are in deep trouble. Added to that, the possible rise of UAP and LDP (who, at a minimum will draw more disaffected voters away from the LNP) not to mention the Senate outcome (balance of power?), the next election will be a cracker. Frankly, I can’t wait!!

    All hail Albo!!! (cough, cough, spit)


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  103. TopEnder,
    this is not a criticism of you in any way, shape or form. I just believe the little Angel should not be forgotten because of legal mumbo jumbo.

    It is believed the young girl — who cannot legally be named

    Her name IS CHARLISE MUTTEN.

    If we keep saying it out loud, she won’t be forgotten and left to become a footnote to a junkie couples’ pretend punishment.


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  104. If the vaccine does not prevent transmission in some large percentage of recipients, herd immunity is impossible

    The whole concept of ‘herd immunity’ is tosh – there is no such thing with highly contagious, fast mutating respiratory viruses because in such case, immunity is a CONTINUOUS process and an individual one. These viruses are so ubiquitous and so contagious that EVERYONE will get exposed, repeatedly. Whether you get sick or not depends on how fit your immune system is. How fit your immune system is depends on how fit and healthy you are, and how much training your immune system has had.

    Each of us has regular encounters with such viruses constantly, and the degree of resultant illness we get depends on the above factors – none of which are ‘herd’ phenomena, all are unique to each individual.

    The very concept of ‘herd immunity’ here is just another extension of the creeping ‘someone else is responsible for my life’ socialist thinking that is well on the way to destroying the west.


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  105. vaccines and boosters associated with faster case growth in UK – especially among the oldest and highest risk. this is a worrying trend.:

    this seems like the most complete and parsimonious explanation i can find so far. it explains a great many things:

    it explains risk ratio for vaxxed exceeding unvaxxed and getting worse as omi spread

    it explains higher growth in cases among the vaxxed as omi spread

    but most of all, it explains the jarring fact that case rates in 70+ rose by about the same as 30-69 in the unvaxxed, but at 2-3X that rate in the vaccinated

    it also explains the saddle shape we’re seeing and why you can get such a good polynomial fit. we’re probably plotting the rate of immune system decline

    older people tend to rely more on antibodies and less on strong t cells. this is why flu is so dangerous to old people. they respond to the flus of their youth and new ones evade them. their antibodies miss the target, and the rest of their immune system cannot keep up. this is, in fact, the primary issue around which OAS has been studied.

    if this is indeed the case, and please do not skip over that word if, then these vaccine programs are going to be a disaster in terms of covid spread in vulnerable populations. this may well make them worse off EVEN if the vaccines show efficacy.

    if you get a 50% reduction in case hospitalization rate but a 300% rise in case rates, you are at 4X prevalence X 50% risk = twice the hospital counts as before.

    RTWT.


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  106. All hail Albo!!! (cough, cough, spit)

    All hail Albo as an impotent minority PM in coalition with UAP and other minors who will REQUIRE an end to mandates, vax passes etc as a condition for their support.

    Who would have thought, an election ago, that economic ruin at the hands of Labor would be a preferrably option to medical tyranny under the Liberals (sic)


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  107. iirc Bronowski thoughtt Civilisation was too arty so he came with something more sciencey

    I think that was hi sbrief – to produce a series that would complement Civilisation from a science viewpoint. Not sure how well the science stacks up after nearly 5 decades.


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  108. flyingduk says:
    January 19, 2022 at 3:48 pm
    The whole concept of ‘herd immunity’ is tosh…..

    What the hell flyingduk? I distinctly remember lots of talk about ‘herd immunity’ from various health experts and the assorted government leaders when the vaccines were first rolled out. They PROMISED IT.

    /sarc


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  109. Who would have thought, an election ago, that economic ruin at the hands of Labor would be a preferrably option to medical tyranny under the Liberals (sic)

    Frydenberg and Morriosn havem’t exactly been models of economic probity. Their very fortunate the Australian economy has proven as robust as it has, despite their best attempts to wreck it by underwriting state covid policies.


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  110. I just remembered something I wanted to share with you all. Many of you will remember a brilliant blogger from years back. He used to comment occasionally at Tim Blairs’ blog. He had produced one of the funniest clips of all time called “Shooty, no Shooty!”

    The Frogman is back!


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  111. Cassie of Sydney says:
    January 19, 2022 at 1:54 pm

    “In any event, I’m not voting for Clive, I’m voting for Craig.”

    You only vote for Craig if you’re in the seat of Hughes. And if Craig doesn’t win his seat (and there’s a high probability of that)…what next?

    Living way out in the west, I can’t personally vote for Craig, but I can support his stance. Last year before the Liberal Party kicked him out, I commented in this august journal that I’d vote for him if I lived in his electorate. He now leads the UAP so I’ll honour my pledge and vote for them.

    He may not get back in, but at least he’s trying, he’s doing something.

    “What next?” – who knows how the election pans out, but I’ve got my humble vote and it won’t be going to any faction of the Uniparty.


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  112. On paper, this nation should be a global textbook for defence against covid with tiny infection rates. But we’re not.

    We’re an interesting experiment.

    After two years of Zero Covid, allowing time to build up a substantial fully vaccinated population – and without much actual infection to muddy the population antibody mix – we’ve suddenly opened the gates because 80%=immunity.

    And Bazango: Covid everywhere.
    (Albeit arguably less harmfully to the elderly and infirm.)

    Yes, Omicron happens. But hopefully there is a public health lesson for someone in all this.


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  113. He now leads the UAP so I’ll honour my pledge and vote for them.
    He may not get back in, but at least he’s trying, he’s doing something.

    We, too, are voting UAP, with preferences going to One Nation. Hoping for a thrashing for the Liberal Party, a poor vote for the Labor Party – and the small parties holding the balance of power.

    It’s possible.


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  114. Rogersays:
    January 19, 2022 at 3:54 pm
    iirc Bronowski thoughtt Civilisation was too arty so he came with something more sciencey

    I think that was hi sbrief – to produce a series that would complement Civilisation from a science viewpoint. Not sure how well the science stacks up after nearly 5 decades.

    It may not stack up well but that was why I suggested a remake because now we know so much more. For example the idea that alcohol may have been a major driver of agriculture is not a joke, it has been seriously addressed. For example:

    https://www.businessinsider.com.au/the-history-of-beer-is-the-history-of-civilization-2016-9

    https://www.cbc.ca/radio/tapestry/alcohol-helped-shape-civilization-and-ferment-innovation-says-author-1.6171481

    Hmmm, so what of those peoples that did not have alcohol? For the record I’m doubtful about the claims that mind altering substances were that important but it is an interesting subject to explore. Artists certainly like their drugs more than the general population but scientists and nerds not so much.

    For people like myself it is exciting to read about the latest findings regarding our African evolution. Blombos Cave, Port Howieson, Border Cave, and many other sites are challenging our views of early humans beings and how they lived. At Blombos Cave there are remarkable artifacts from 70,000 years ago. Yeah that’s me but in a full series should be plenty for most people to find interesting.


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  115. Woolfe says:
    January 19, 2022 at 2:12 pm

    Ffs sancho it doesn’t matter, they are not going to win anyway. But no worries, carry on debating the pros and cons of each.

    They (LDP & UAP) are swapping preferences anyway so it doesn’t matter that much.


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  116. Peanut not being elected showed that the electorate does have limits to its tolerance of idiots.

    Don’t kid yourself. Country Queensland and WA won’t save the Libs this time. It’s about time the immigration Ponzi eastern cities started lifting their weight. Afterall that’s been the gateway for all the shit that’s dragging our country down.


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  117. What the hell flyingduk? I distinctly remember lots of talk about ‘herd immunity’ from various health experts and the assorted government leaders when the vaccines were first rolled out. They PROMISED IT

    It gets worse – they aimed at ELIMINATION by vaccination, not just herd immunity, and FWIW, we already knew the conditions that needed to be met to achieve that

    1) Slow mutation rate/rapid vaccination rate
    2) Sterilising Vaccine
    3) No animal reservoir

    How’s 0/3?


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  118. It’s about time the immigration Ponzi eastern cities started lifting their weight. Afterall that’s been the gateway for all the shit that’s dragging our country down.

    what a ridiculous statement- the immigration Ponzi is driven from Canbra which is artificial, parasitic city


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  119. I received an email from AEC (electoral commission) whether I want to work at the next federal election, since I worked at a polling place a few years back. They demand all who want to work this time to be injected, which is to be expected.
    I wonder if they’ll try to push the same bs for voters too – mail-in only for un-injected. There is close to a 100% guarantee that all these ballots won’t have majors in the top 5. It’s very convenient for a desperate political party.


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  120. His docos were wonderful too. I’m very sad he caught climate disease. These days he goes on and on like a religious fanatic.

    The decline of David Attenborough is not mentioned in our household. It is too distressing. I was madly in love with him more years ago than I care to remember – when he was a dashing young naturalist making groundbreaking films on animals and the natural world. God, he was handsome! Dad and I used to watch every doco he made on TV. Compulsive viewing.

    He still is a remarkable man in his longevity and passion for the natural world. But it is heartbreaking to listen to him waffle on about the Climate Religion.


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  121. what a ridiculous statement- the immigration Ponzi is driven from Canbra which is artificial, parasitic city

    Obviously we have different views of what east means.

    And yes! The eastern states city dwellers allowed the creep of immigration that has been growing steadily. Just because you’ve happily gone about your life blinkered to the obvious doesn’t mean it is not true.


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  122. John of Melsays:
    January 19, 2022 at 4:20 pm
    I received an email from AEC (electoral commission) whether I want to work at the next federal election, since I worked at a polling place a few years back. They demand all who want to work this time to be injected, which is to be expected.
    I wonder if they’ll try to push the same bs for voters too – mail-in only for un-injected. There is close to a 100% guarantee that all these ballots won’t have majors in the top 5. It’s very convenient for a desperate political party.

    No suggestion that mail in ballots might be lost….


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  123. flyingduk says:
    January 19, 2022 at 4:15 pm
    It gets worse – they aimed at ELIMINATION by vaccination….

    Hahahaha yes. You probably remember many Cat participants going off their nut at the early concept of “flatten the curve” – I thought some of the posters were going to have a heart attack. Then lockdowns, herd immunity, elimination etc. The bald face lies and government actions were serious – but many of the Cat comments were utterly priceless and directly over the target.

    Sadly, I seriously doubt there will ever be a ‘reckoning’ about all this.


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  124. His symptoms were sore throat, mild headache, mild congestion and profound tiredness. Claims he slept much more than usual over of the ~ three days he was ill. Overall, he compared it to a moderate grade cold or low grade ‘flu’

    Yesterday, I went to the dentist. The dental nurse told me that her entire family had it. It seems that her MiL was in hospital for an unrelated matter, came home just before Xmas with it and passed it on to them.

    Previously, the nurse was worried about getting it because she has asthma and diabetes but nothing but the symptoms listed above happened.

    Fingers crossed more and more people will, as a result of experiencing a minor flu-like illness, wake up.

    On Scummo, that presser was all about the backbench and with messaging gleaned from the focus groups, imo. I didn’t count how many times he uttered the word “frustrated” but it almost reminded me of Gillard’s “moving forward” spiel. Don’t forget, he said, we’ve saved 40k Australians because of our coof strategy. And then went on to remind everyone how much was still being spent.

    No-one’s listening.


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  125. These would be the replacements for the sacked health workers, teachers, tradies, engineers etc who refused to get the death jab.

    I’ve managed to jag a term’s work. Of the 6 going in on contract, 1 from NSW (me), 1 Vic, and 1 from SA, other 3 are new grads.

    Talked to ex-colleague, it seems that NSW DoE is heavily recruiting Afdanistanies to work in the Riverina and offering relocation costs.

    And finally happy birthday 2nd Reich, proclaimed 150 years ago. Missed yesterday’s 45th anniversary of the Granville Accident


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  126. i

    irc Bronowski thoughtt Civilisation was too arty so he came with something more sciencey

    I would like to do economic history – sadly neglected and explains so much on the rise and fall of empires and human progress


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  127. And the Bolzano (aka Bozen) region is also known as South Tyrol, with two-thirds of the population being German speakers. So the region with the highest birth rate are the ‘mountain Germans’.

    Sounds like something Dian Fossey might be involved with?


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  128. WTF is going on at the BOM, we are in the throws of heading back to NQ and I get on to see the weekly tropical update. Busiest time of the year in the coral sea and they are rationing them. The one over the Christmas break was nearly a month apart, now they are doing them fortnightly. Once upon a time I would have said the BOM was above reproach with stuff like this, now I find myself trawling through 2nd & 3rd world states around us like Fiji Met or even Thai Meteorological Dept to get more up to date info.

    That said a low off Fiji from where Cyclone Yasi originated, all conditions right except the lack of mid level moisture. Westward steering too. Noice.


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  129. We were graciously allowed out from quarantine to get our day 12 PCR today. 38 degrees here and we spent over an hour in a short queue of maybe a dozen people.

    Turns out that the ‘science’ in WA means that whenever a ‘close contact’ gets tested in the clinic, they have to sterilize the room, then wait half an hour before the next person is allowed in. The person doing the testing has to take a shower.

    So on one side of the country, a ‘close contact’ is treated as though they have leprosy or the plague, while on the other they would be allowed back to work. Fucking insanity. I pointed this out to the bloke giving us the details and he had no answer. Good that some other Western Australians heard the exchange.

    BTW our test results are due back tomorrow morning, however we will have to remain in quarantine until our full 14 days and three hours are up. Spiteful fucking arseholes.


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  130. Turns out that the ‘science’ in WA means that whenever a ‘close contact’ gets tested in the clinic, they have to sterilize the room, then wait half an hour before the next person is allowed in. The person doing the testing has to take a shower.

    Insanity.
    Who TF came up with that?


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  131. Roger thanks for the unherd interview with the Israeli doctor.
    Agreed with everything he said, and the last comment about those over 50/60 was something I’ve said and is absolutely spot on regarding who is at risk and where vaccination makes complete sense.
    But what would he know?


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  132. Roger thanks for the unherd interview with the Israeli doctor.

    You’re welcome, rosie.

    I hope you read what I took from it – the covid paradigm is collapsing.


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  133. Truckers Stage MASSIVE Protest Blocking U.S. Border Defying Vaccine Mandates, Shortages Get WORSE

    https://rumble.com/vsudga-truckers-stage-massive-protest-blocking-u.s.-border-defying-vaccine-mandate.html?mref=5f67r&mc=7xi0y

    Tim Pool Published January 18, 2022
    Rumble — Truckers Stage MASSIVE Protest Blocking U.S. Border Defying Vaccine Mandates, Shortages Get WORSE. Cananda’s new plan to require all truckers entering to be vaccinated is causing a major crisis.

    As food shortages hit maybe democrat state and cities the last thing needed is for Truckers to bow out. Without truckers food and goods will not reach cities.

    Yet politicians like Trudeau and many democrats seem oblivious to how the economy actually works


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  134. Award-winning books banned as culture wars enter the classroom

    By Alistair Dawber
    The Times
    10:11AM January 19, 2022
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    Books that tackle issues such as race and sexual abuse are being banned as Republican-led school districts target award-winning novels in a right-wing version of “cancel culture”.

    One of the authors affected is Margaret Atwood, whose dystopian novel The Handmaid’s Tale, depicting the violent oppression of women, has been turned into an acclaimed television series.

    The classroom has become one of the key battlegrounds in America’s culture wars, which pit traditionalists against those with a left-wing agenda. The conflict is often fought over the teaching of critical race theory – the idea that racism is deeply entrenched in society – but more recently the row has spread to the subject matter of some popular children’s novels.

    The death of George Floyd, a black man murdered by a white police officer in Minneapolis in May 2020, spurred greater calls for the teaching of the theory, but in many areas of the country parents objected.

    Deborah Caldwell-Stone, director of the office for intellectual freedom at the American Library Association (AMA), told the Axios news website that she had never witnessed such a “volume of challenges come in such a short time” in 20 years. The AMA tracked the targeting of 566 books in 2019 and 273 books during the pandemic in 2020.

    “I don’t want my daughter growing up feeling guilty because she’s white,” one Pennsylvanian parent told a school board meeting in York county last year. The generally affluent county, which voted overwhelmingly for Donald Trump in 2020, is dominated by Republican officials. The row led to an order to freeze the availability of books that included references to critical race theory.

    “Banning books on diversity is the direct result of this Republican-manufactured crisis on critical race theory,” Donna Bullock, chairwoman of the Pennsylvania legislative black caucus, said.

    In October the school district in Katy, Texas, banned two books by the graphic novelist Jerry Craft that describe the experiences of two black boys who fall victim to racist abuse at school after 400 local parents signed a petition.

    The ban has since been overturned, but critics argue that school districts are coming under pressure from politicians and that the action amounts to censorship. In some areas of the country proposed bans would lead to the removal of children’s novels that raise issues such as sexual abuse, teenage pregnancy and drug-taking.

    In November the Spotsylvania county school board in Virginia ordered staff to remove “sexually explicit” books from libraries after a parent raised concerns about their LGBTQ themes.

    The Handmaid’s Tale is one of the books that is most frequently challenged on account of its often violent and sexual content. “If you’re a writer and everybody likes you, a) you’re doing something wrong, or b) you don’t exist,” Atwood, 82, told the Associated Press.

    “I am happy to be in the company of the Bible, Shakespeare, John Bunyan, Lord Byron, Emily Bronte, Flaubert, James Joyce, Nawal el Saadawi, Angela Carter, Anonymous of A Woman in Berlin and so many others. Lucky me, I live in a democracy, so at least I’m not in jail or being tossed out of a plane.”



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  135. His docos were wonderful too. I’m very sad he caught climate disease. These days he goes on and on like a religious fanatic

    Like so many other celebrities it’s the only way to keep being invited to social occasions. They don’t want to be at risk of Gareth Evans’ relevance deprivation syndrome.


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  136. I know some were wondering , I forgot to mention, that unless the child is sick, the official word is no child will be turned away next week or the week after (Qld).


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  137. WTF is going on at the BOM

    A question I also posed after they failed to predict the post-Seth rainfall.

    That resulted in a critical lack of preparedness in the areas that flooded.


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  138. it seems that NSW DoE is heavily recruiting Afdanistanies to work in the Riverina and offering relocation costs.

    Hmm … noted

    the missus has degrees in Lit and Secondary Teaching


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  139. Speedbox says:
    January 19, 2022 at 4:30 pm
    ….Sadly, I seriously doubt there will ever be a ‘reckoning’ about all this.

    Depends on how many kids are killed by the “vaccines”…


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  140. A question I also posed after they failed to predict the post-Seth rainfall.

    That resulted in a critical lack of preparedness in the areas that flooded.

    Complacency will bite them on the rear end again, Roger. Seth looked very unremarkable and was pushing into the sub tropical jetstream but bombed anyway. Mind you the MJO was a driver in that one.

    At the moment SST from about Bowen north are at or above 30 deg, some coastal areas near Princess Charlotte Bay and Cleveland/Halifax Bay pushing 32deg. I’d say from memory prob about 2 deg above what I have normally seen in past. A lot of energy pent up there.


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  141. John of Mel says:
    January 19, 2022 at 4:20 pm
    I wonder if they’ll try to push the same bs for voters too – mail-in only for un-injected.

    I’m more worried the big COVID pron campaign is designed to get people to accept on-line voting.
    The recent Census was a trial run.

    That way, the incumbents will get back with 130% of the vote.


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  142. Nelson Mandela

    Nelson Mandela was on the Central Committee of the old South African Communist Party, and they don’t come more hard line then that.


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  143. Barry says:
    January 19, 2022 at 1:15 pm

    My kid is about to turn 18.

    Not at all academic, but a good conscientious worker. Best job market I’ve seen in years for jobs that suit him.

    Now Morro wants to bring in a whole lot of cheap labour to undercut him. Fuck you Morro. Voted Liberal for the past 35 years. Never again.

    Labor supports immigration since it provides them voters.
    Libs/Nats support immigration since it provides big donors with cheap labour.

    WTFTD?

    By all means, vote immediate self-interest Barry, but don’t pretend that an economic system constipated with a highly regulated labor market combined with a labor supply shock for the past two years is great for business. Your kid deserves the marginal product of his labor and not a cent more. The Libs are doing the right thing.


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  144. EvilElvis

    Don’t kid yourself. Country Queensland and WA won’t save the Libs this time

    The Lieborals could lose 3 or 4 seats in WA alone. Game over right there.


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  145. srr says:
    January 19, 2022 at 4:59 pm
    Truckers Stage MASSIVE Protest Blocking U.S. Border Defying Vaccine Mandates, Shortages Get WORSE
    Yet politicians like Trudeau and many democrats seem oblivious to how the economy actually works

    No – I’m pretty sure they know exactly how it works.
    Crises (esp manufactured ones) need strong responses – more controls…


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  146. The bloody back is giving me grief again.
    Helped load some garden sleepers onto a fork lift at a wood yard yesterday and tripped over the chocks on the ground. Thought nothing of it until today.
    I’m booked to see my physio, a big strong Kiwi lass who’ll give it a good work over.
    I don’t know the Covid rules but I doubt she’ll care. She’s to the right of Genghis Khan and hates St Jacinda with a passion.
    It’s almost worth getting an injury to hear her let loose on her old homeland.


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  147. Bear

    Anything can happen in the current climate. Last time it was an election the scumbag Liars couldn’t lose and they lost despite the polls. Shit is far more volatile as you know.


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  148. iirc Bronowski thoughtt Civilisation was too arty so he came with something more sciencey

    In his foreword to the book of the series Bronowski says that the BBC approached him with the idea and persuaded him to do it.


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  149. The People unifier?
    @ThePatriot46
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    This insanity must be shared:

    New Rasmussen poll highlights how far many Democrats have gone when it comes to embracing authoritarian/inhumane Covid measures towards the unvaccinated:

    -55% support FINES for anyone refusing the vaccine

    -59% support permanent house confinement for unvaxxed

    -48% support PRISON for anyone who questions vaccine efficacy on social media

    -45% support putting unvaxxed in quarantine (internment) camps

    -47% support surveillance and tracking of the unvaccinated

    -29% support the government TAKING KIDS from their parents

    These are my sworn enemies… the enemies of freedom and humanity. These people and this mindset MUST be confronted and called out EVERYWHERE we see it.

    HISTORY WILL NOT REPEAT ITSELF ON OUR WATCH!
    https://gettr.com/post/pp8mtg42b8
    Follow @Dschlopes


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  150. Roger says:
    January 19, 2022 at 5:01 pm
    WTF is going on at the BOM

    Too busy homogenising & bastardising historical temperature records.
    The past doesn’t get colder on its own, you know.


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  151. Any Dari, Pashto?

    nope …
    fluent in shoes and able to construct a dynamic 3d image in here head of most shopping centres,
    but barely manages English


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  152. Weekly fascist update on Sydney buses…..I hobbled into the CBD to pick up an online order, I caught the bus to and from the CBD. On the bus coming home I got on with my walking stick and sat in one of the single seats……..diagonally across from me, where there are three seats all together, a rather large woman was sitting with her mask on. A man got on, very Darlinghurst, very gay, very fit, and sat opposite her. He had his mask on but it was under his nose. Sacré bleu! She then yelled at him to cover his nose. In a loud voice he told her to mind her own business, that he was double jabbed and that, unlike her, he’s fit and slim and unlikely to suffer from Covid. Then a petite Asian girl got on and went to sit on the third seat near the large woman. The large woman tried to stop her from sitting down and I and the gay man yelled out to the little Asian woman to sit down and I said to the large woman that “you’re not boss lady on this bus”. That shut her up. She then remained silent.

    We’ve cultivated nasty selfish fascists. It’s obscene.


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  153. HB, Dawson and Herbert could be in the mix in Qld as well. 2 decent candidates for the ALP too and in Herbert they have hired a well known ALP head kicker who wants to settle a score with the sitting Phil Thompson.

    I think Katter will hang on as well as Entsch. The rest of the Queensland regional seats south seem very safe for the LNP too.


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    @Mardrie
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    What the media won’t show you!
    Canada’s medical community has stood up en masse against forced vaccination!
    There are 33,000 doctors and personnel in Canada who are refusing to receive the jab. They don’t have the resources of big media, so we have need to share!
    Share!!!
    https://gettr.com/post/poa4ghf413


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  155. H B Bear says:
    January 19, 2022 at 5:35 pm

    For sure. If Labor learnt anything from last time I presume it is they need to keep the lunatic left under control. Plenty of time to hand out largesse after the election and if everyone behaves themselves beforehand, they will have at least 6 years to do it.


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  156. where there are three seats all together, a rather large woman was sitting with her mask on……….
    ……..Then a petite Asian girl got on and went to sit on the third seat near the large woman.

    How many chickens does one need to eat for breakfast every day to occupy all three seats without lying down? *burp*


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  157. Cassie – your experience today, and related just now:

    Monstrous obese wildebeest have always hove around among us. They are (as mentioned) monstrous, obese and hideous, and they are aware they are monstrous, obese and hideous.

    Aside from winning prizes for slavering down kilograms of mozzarella cheese and Diet Coke, they are purposeless.

    Covid has given them an out. It won’t be self-inflicted heart attacks, or positional asphyxia caused by wedging themselves on the shitter or arteries like 105mm howitzer barrels that causes their death. In their tiny, beady-eyed fat-encrusted minds it will be Covid, which they will have been given to them by some random somewhere. That way it’s not their fault they are monstrous, obese and hideous, and close to death.

    In simpler times these specimens wouldn’t have had a reason to mouth off in public, and if they did they would have received ‘Fuck off, toothless Godzilla’ or ‘wind your chubby neck in, porky’, or ‘need another cheeseburger, Jabba?’.

    Now they see themselves as saviours. Look upon your works, Mr Hazzard, and despair.


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  158. I don’t wish to dwell on the tragedy of the dead little girl…murdered by scum….but yesterday I saw a picture, in the Daily Telegraph, of the man who’s now the alleged perpetrator . I got a shock……because I’ve seen this man quite a few times wondering around Oxford Street….in Paddington and Surry Hills. I remember last year seeing him sitting on a park bench opposite Paddington Town Hall, he was off his face. But I remember being struck as to how handsome he was and I remember thinking…..what a waste. The choices people make in life. Anyway, this man doesn’t come from struggle street, he’s the son of a very rich family. This arvo, as I hobbled through the QVB building, I noted that all the shops were open….except one…..Martin & Stein Jewellers, owned by the man’s father.


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  159. “A beefy Gay, a tiny Asian and a Cranky Hobbler get onto a bus…

    The rest writes itself.”

    Love it!

    I have to confess, I rather like walking around with a walking stick.


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  160. Tim Gill
    @Timinator88
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    They’re ALL crooks??

    ? Here is the sentencing memo for George Nader – who was quietly convicted of donating millions of foreign dollars to the Hillary Clinton campaign in 2016.
    https://gettr.com/post/pp8b1ade6d
    _________________________________

    Can’t wait ’til some of that justice falls on those closer to home.


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  161. At the moment SST from about Bowen north are at or above 30 deg, some coastal areas near Princess Charlotte Bay and Cleveland/Halifax Bay pushing 32deg. I’d say from memory prob about 2 deg above what I have normally seen in past. A lot of energy pent up there.

    Standby for some DA REEF IS DOOOOMED screeching then. Those temperatures will cause a bleaching event. The climateers will totally forget to mention the thing called La Nina which brings the warm water to the west side of the Pacific basin.


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  162. I’ve seen this too, Cassie. Children from wealth and privilege, self destructing. It’s a terrible thing and sometimes the parents are beside themselves, wondering where they went wrong.

    On “local colour”, the best place to see it here is outside the Terrace Court House handily located on a major intersection for viewing pleasure. It isn’t for nothing that the tatt parlour got “Business of the Year”.

    The “Respectable Court House Clothiers”… not so much.


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  163. I have to confess, I rather like walking around with a walking stick.

    Cassie,
    when I was doing my hobbling, the walking stick was a godsend. Push your full trolley for you? Oooh, thank you so much! Here, have my seat, oooh!, thank you so much! Load your groceries in your car? ooooh!, thank you so much!

    Seriously though, while I was on the stick, and then crutches after the operation, without question, people were so kind. Men, women, all age groups.

    Wearing shorts because it was summer was also good because of the two very long dressings on my legs. Had many great conversations with complete strangers.


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  164. Meghan and Harry set up 11 companies in US tax haven
    John Reynolds
    Wednesday January 19 2022, 12.01am GMT, The Times
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    The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have set up 11 companies in the US tax haven of Delaware despite living in California, state filings have shown.

    The companies, including one thought to be for Harry’s multimillion-dollar memoir book deal, have been incorporated by Richard Genow, the duchess’s lawyer, and Andrew Meyer, her business manager.

    The businesses have been set up since April 2020, according to records, and the names of the companies appear to include a reference in Spanish to the duchess’s freckles, and to a “babymoon” getaway the couple took in 2019.

    One of the companies incorporated is Peca Publishing LLC, which is being used by the duchess for the rights for her children’s book The Bench.

    Peca means freckles in Spanish, and may reference a book Meghan wrote in eighth grade called A Face without Freckles . . . Is a Night without Stars, according to the MailOnline.

    Another company is called Orinoco Publishing LLC, probably being used to hold the rights for the duke’s blockbuster deal with Penguin Random House for his memoir. Several of the Sussexes’ Delaware companies were set up to hold the trademarks for their charity, Archewell, and companies linked to it.

    There are also two entertainment companies, set up by Genow and Meyer last year, called Bridgemount LLC and Hampshire LLC, which may reference the babymoon.

    Another company, Nemawashi Holdings LLC, was set up in September 2020 and is described as a holding company. Nemawashi is a Japanese term meaning the informal process of quietly laying a project’s foundation.

    The US state of Delaware is known as a tax haven as it does not make company accounts public and allows owners of companies to hide their identities. Almost 65 per cent of Fortune 500 companies are incorporated in Delaware.

    Genow told the Hollywood Reporter in November that he had known Meyer for more than 15 years. Meyer, a certified public accountant and founder of the Beverly Hills entertainment wealth management firm Freemark Financial, lives with his wife in a $6 million six-bed property in the exclusive neighbourhood of Holmby Hills, Los Angeles.



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  165. I was wondering if our high infection rate, given that immunisation doesn’t prevent transmission, is because Australia pursued an elimination strategy for two years whereas most countries have had successive waves of infections, though look at any country’s graph and omicron is a tsunami in comparison to earlier waves.
    And isn’t it just awful those scientists couldn’t come up with a perfect one shot vaccine like we should all realistically be able to expect in this day and age.
    Come to think of it what about a cure for cancer.
    Not good enough! Where’s my thumbs down button!


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  166. he’s the son of a very rich family.

    Cassie,
    the serious problem with that is, the family will spend every last dollar to ensure he has a cushy room in a nuthouse, and never does time for his evil.

    I also believe that he targeted this woman as soon as he found out she had a little girl. He probably has form but, as often happens in these cases, family money was used to buy silence. This time, sadly for sweet Charlise, whatever MO he normally used, something went dreadfully wrong.


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  167. My adult son’s serious Pfizer reaction occurred after the period between injections was reduced to only three weeks. Now they are at it again for the boosters. Very bad medicine.
    —–

    It’s a long standing sports injury but the jokes have been around the nose candy & vanity as the real reasons.

    I hit the dentistry phones running the moment I broke my front tooth the other day thinking you never know when they are going to insist on giving you teledentristry and instead of treatment I would find myself stuck with a Hallowe’een hello and advice on how to cope with it.

    Urgent was an understatment. 🙂


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  168. I’m booked to see my physio, a big strong Kiwi lass who’ll give it a good work over.

    I used to have one of those.
    Half Kiwi bird that used to work wonders on my back.
    If she doesn’t look like she could bench press you, don’t let them near you.
    It goes without saying a man can never let another man work on his back.


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  169. “I also believe that he targeted this woman as soon as he found out she had a little girl. He probably has form but, as often happens in these cases, family money was used to buy silence. This time, sadly for sweet Charlise, whatever MO he normally used, something went dreadfully wrong.”

    Maybe but I think scum attracts scum. I’ve just watched the news…the police are remaining tight lipped but it’s clear that the mother knows more than she’s revealing….she’s in hospital and not talking.


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  170. Just as a matter of interest, Sportsbet are offering $1.70 for a Labor majority and $4.25 for the LNP at the next election.

    Dutton is $1.90 to be the next LNP leader after Morrison followed by Friedburger at $2.10


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  171. Well I just had the phone call with my work. The termination letter will be mailed this week as I cannot logistically be fully vaccinated by the end of the month.

    Joining the ranks of the unemployed will be novel. It’s only a couple of years ago I gave away working two jobs. No idea what I’ll do with the free time.


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