Open Thread – Weekend 26 Feb 2022


Vicinity of Kiev. Over the Dnieper, Volodymyr Orlovsky, 1884

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2dogs
2dogs
February 27, 2022 7:47 am

Germany has said it is ready to accept a “targeted restriction” of Russia’s access to the Swift interbank platform, in retaliation for the Russian military operation in Ukraine, while wanting to “limit the collateral damage” of such a penalty.

And there you have why blocking Russia from SWIFT won’t happen.

SWIFT is f&^king expensive to use, and is feeling pressure from crypto alternatives. Sanctions just mean that SWIFT loses even more market share.

Vicki
Vicki
February 27, 2022 7:50 am

Agree with all of that Dot. I could get along alone in our city home at considerable monetary cost, but there is no way I could continue to live in our beloved farm on my own. I recognise that completely. Help is very difficult to get to start with, and the nature of much of the work is beyond my physical capabilities.

On the other hand, our current arrangement acknowledges our capabilities. I am “livestock & pasture” – acknowledging my childhood upbringing on the land, & husband is “machinery & maintenance” acknowledging his skills. Largely that means decision making for me on the the issues of my expertise & his execution of most of those decisions – although I manage the cattle in many cases on my own. So, although I make a lot of management decisions – I could not physically operate the farm without him.

However, there is another area of expertise in which I have contributed substantially over our lifetime – & that is business & financial decision making. I am a researcher & those skills have enabled us to make some pretty critical decisions at significant times. We avoided potential ruin in our then current business prior to two financial global crises by taking prior action.

So, contrary to the rubbish promulgated by the Feminist movement, men and women operate best in this world by being complementary &, contrary to current behaviour – complimentary!

miltonf
miltonf
February 27, 2022 7:59 am

Come 2011, when Libya became unstable, Hillary Clinton egged on the war, and then luxuriated in the slaughter that followed.

‘we came, we saw, he died’ cackle cackle- no such thing as witches. What a depraved lump of evil.

cohenite
February 27, 2022 8:00 am

Abiotic hydrocarbons exist; most of them are on Titan.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 27, 2022 8:14 am

Ukraine’s Deadly Gamble

By tying itself to a reckless and dangerous America, the Ukrainians made a blunder that client states will study for years to come

Excellent summary

srr
srr
February 27, 2022 8:22 am

France Revokes Nearly 4 Million Vaccine Passports
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/france/france-revokes-nearly-4-million-vaccine-passports/
France
Posted Feb 26, 2022 by Martin Armstrong

France has deactivated nearly four million vaccine passes as the definition of “fully vaccinated” continues to change. Authorities are now requiring everyone over the age of 16 to receive their third booster dose within four months of their second dosage, which has been dramatically shortened from the original seven-month period. The Ministry of Health secretly acknowledged that the vaccines are not effective as contracting the coronavirus could serve as a booster replacement, “one infection = one dose.”

France will grant amnesty to those holding fake vaccine passes, warning them that now is their last chance to get vaccinated without consequences. An estimated 192,000 people currently have fraudulent vaccine passes as it is not possible to participate in French society without a vaccine passport. This means an additional four million people will be banned from entering public places. Oh, but the unvaccinated may still attend political rallies.

Has Macron’s promise to “piss off” the unvaccinated worked? As I have said, even if you took the vaccines, you are always one shot away from being labeled “unvaccinated,” banished from society. Will four million people comply and take an additional dose of an unknown substance? “I really want to piss off the unvaccinated – and that’s what we’re going to do, right until the end,” Macron stated in December. However, the people will ultimately decide when “the end” of this pandemic will take place.

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
February 27, 2022 8:25 am

I suspect that once the Russians saw the new U.S. army ad, they knew the time was right…

For the comparison, see here

P
P
February 27, 2022 8:25 am

Jack Posobiec @JackPosobiec · 6h
“Military exercises”

Quote Tweet Disclose.tv@disclosetv · 6h
JUST IN – China announces “military exercises” in the #SouthChinaSea across a 6-nautical-mile-radius from Sunday to Tuesday.

calli
calli
February 27, 2022 8:28 am

Thanks, OldOzzie. Interesting historical perspective.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 27, 2022 8:33 am

Russian military attack on Ukraine: How we got there

Moscow says the current situation is the result of years of failed talks to end the bloodshed in eastern Ukraine after the 2014 coup in Kiev

Here are the key events of the past eight years that led to this conflict.

1. ‘Euromaidan’ protests in Kiev end with West-backed coup

2. Crimea votes to leave Ukraine for Russia

3. Conflict breaks out in Donbass

4. Minsk ceasefire puts an end to large-scale fighting

5. No reform, no peace for Donbass

6. Road to escalation in Donbass

7. Russia recognizes Donbass republics

8. Moscow launches ‘military operation’ in Ukraine

9. What comes next?

shatterzzz
February 27, 2022 8:33 am

How good is NSW gummint when it comes to building infrastructure? Parramatta stadium has cancelled tonight’s fitba match, Wanderers v Wellington! .. because of RAIN .. an enclosed stadium only opened 2 years ago and shut because .. the pitch won’t drain because of the amount of rain that has fallen into the Parramatta River! .. rendering the pitch drainage system almost useless! .. why wasn’t this covered in the original plans? .. it’s one thing for older venues to be rain affected but there is no excuse for an, almost, new stadium built with NSW tax payer funds to fail at it’s 1st attempt due to inclement weather … FFS!

calli
calli
February 27, 2022 8:38 am

A feature of the catchment. Water won’t drain uphill.

The only other method of drainage would have been to site the stadium on higher ground.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 27, 2022 8:41 am

Long-Enduring COBOL May Still Have a Shelf Life The aging programming language is giving way to younger, more flexible software environments

Sid Mohanram, senior vice president of software engineering at Verisk, a huge data-analytics and risk-assessment multinational, is overseeing his company’s migration away from COBOL. He’s part of a trend as companies and governments are exploring other options than the programming language that runs some of the world’s most critical applications.

“The goal is to get out of the mainframe,” Mohanram said.

The COVID-19 pandemic has been a wakeup call for organizations running critical computer systems written in the 60-year-old programming language, COBOL. In the United States, New Jersey, Wisconsin, Vermont, Iowa, Kansas, and even the federal government have faced shortages of COBOL programmers to keep unemployment benefit systems running amid a historic spike in claims.

But a perceived shortage of COBOL programmers isn’t the only problem. COBOL has also become an old (though still quite reliable) clunker in the high-speed world of programming languages and software development.

“The speed by which we can implement changes in COBOL is slow, and people start building workarounds,” Mohanram said, creating a buildup of what he calls “technical debt.” “Developers say, ‘I need to make a change, but I’m too busy to make the COBOL changes, so I’m not going to touch the existing COBOL program, but I’ll add three more steps outside of COBOL, with Excel spreadsheets or something else, to apply the changes.’ So now you have this COBOL program that’s very dated, and a bunch of other things that are workarounds to get the final result.”

Reuters estimated in 2015 that there were 220 billion lines of COBOL code still in production running 43 percent of the world’s banking systems and 95 percent of its automated teller machines. Traffic lights, airlines, pension funds, and payroll systems all regularly run on COBOL.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 27, 2022 8:47 am

9. What comes next?

RT finally becomes even less believable than the western MSM?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 27, 2022 8:50 am

ICE St Moritz – International Concours of Elegance

The ICE St. Moritz has been created to enjoy driving, showing and watching some of the world’s most exciting motor cars in the unlikely environment of the frozen lake. Polo matches and Horse-Racing have been held there for decades, and a high class motoring event seemed the natural choice to expand the winter lake activities.

The idea first came in mind in the mid-Eighties and it took many years to make it true.

Unique and magic

The ICE St.Moritz is a very different event, a refreshing concours. A completely magical environment where drivers, collectors, and just plain car enthusiasts enjoy a late winter day in the sunshine, surrounded by the landscape and atmosphere that only St.Moritz, at the top of the world, is able to offer.

shatterzzz
February 27, 2022 8:53 am

The only other method of drainage would have been to site the stadium on higher ground.

Why not a, once-in-a-100years , catchment dam a s a contingency plan? .. they had/have no shortage of, unused, land behind/side of the stadium but I’m guessing “it’ll never happen so why spend money” had some input .. LOL!
Then again, I might be being harsh .. I am talking fitba and, the powers that be, have shown time & time again with game cancellations during the BAT FLU fiasco how quick & easy it is to call games off for the slightest excuse .. LOL!

Cassie of Sydney
February 27, 2022 8:55 am

“OldOzziesays:
February 27, 2022 at 8:14 am
Ukraine’s Deadly Gamble

By tying itself to a reckless and dangerous America, the Ukrainians made a blunder that client states will study for years to come

Excellent summary”

Firstly OO, nice to see you. And thank you for that superb link from the always superb Tablet. It confirms my understanding of the whole imbroglio. The stinking role of Obama, Biden and the Demonrats in all of this cannot be questioned. Basically the Ukrainian government played with fire…..and they’re now burning.

Pity the Ukrainian people.
Pity Ukraine.

Gabor
Gabor
February 27, 2022 8:56 am

OldOzzie says:
February 27, 2022 at 8:41 am

Long-Enduring COBOL May Still Have a Shelf Life The aging programming language is giving way to younger, more flexible software environments

Cobol is not the problem, lack of people willing to learn it is.
All this hype about every new fangled programming language draws away from it, many young graduates out of uni only know about it by name only.

The fact that you can incorporate code written in other languages proves that it’s still flexible and I think it’s still the best way to handle the task it was developed for, that is finance.

lotocoti
lotocoti
February 27, 2022 8:56 am

… we should remember the values and hard-won freedoms that distinguish us from Putin, none more than LGBT+ rights.

The head of MI6, according to the Daily Mail.
Funny how Putin’s old firm was always on the look out for
Establishment chaps who preferred the company of other chaps.
Also: Not everything has to be linked to flair with scatter pillows.

srr
srr
February 27, 2022 8:57 am

Dotsays:
February 27, 2022 at 6:10 am

And the same people trying to wash Biden’s bloody hands out of this, also tell you that our enemies don’t use drugs as a weapon of war against us.

In the US, Fentanyl is The HIGHEST KILLER of 18 to 45 year olds by a long straw, and that’s not counting the greater number who are effectively the walking dead.
All the fighting force ages the enemy doesn’t have to spend a bullet on.
They pay the enemy to kill themselves for the enemy.

There is such a reckoning coming for those who know all this yet lie otherwise.

Is this a “God speaks to me, my children!” moment you rambling bloody fool?

Get this through your thick skull:

1. You are talking about foreign enemies undermining the USA.
2. Jansen Pharmaceuticals (Netherlands, a US/NATO ally) first made Fentanyl.
3. Jansen is now a subsidiary of Johnson & Johnson (USA), subject to a stock split.

Just stop.

War successfully makes people forget how many death J&J has already paid out for and that yesterday people were just waking up to Big Pharma Lies For Profits.

Nah, only joking, some have always shilled for the mob that had the world locked down ‘for Covid’ for profits and at the same time re-opened the US borders to step up the trafficking of drugs, slaves & children.

Watch for the explosive anger. It means …

Tom
Tom
February 27, 2022 8:59 am

Fox News coverage of Ukraine (via Foxtel channel 608) has been excellent. Fox has flown its own people into the capital Kiev and the western Ukraine university town Liviv on the Polish border.

Meanwhile, Sky New Australia is getting its Ukraine coverage from CNN, FFS! What a clown show!

My on complaint about the Fox News coverage is that none of their reporters know how to pronounce Kiev. It’s Ki-EV, you idiots, not KEEV.

Razey
Razey
February 27, 2022 9:03 am

lotocotisays:
February 27, 2022 at 8:56 am
… we should remember the values and hard-won freedoms that distinguish us from Putin, none more than LGBT+ rights.

Freedom to be disgusting perverts.

Cassie of Sydney
February 27, 2022 9:04 am

“Tomsays:
February 27, 2022 at 4:49 am”

I’ve seen the piece, I can’t access it because I’m not on my work computer…but my immediate reaction on seeing the drivel was WTF and why I’m glad I no longer subscribe to the Oz.

Jonathan Kay is the associate editor of Quillette, which perhaps explains why I gave up reading Quillette over two years ago. Most of the stuff is tedious. I’m not particularly enamoured of Claire Lehmann either, both Kay and Lehmann can’t think outside the box, particularly when it comes to Trump and Covid.

I remember seeing Kay interviewed about two years ago and he referred to Canada’s only real objective and unbiased news outlet, Rebel News, as “cartoonish”……which is rather laughable because, given his drivel on Trudeau and Trump, it isn’t Ezra Levant and Rebel that’s “cartoonish”, it’s the likes of Kay and Lehmann.

bons
bons
February 27, 2022 9:08 am

Seqwater is working closely with the Bureau of Meteorology to assess the evolving situation and need for flood releases, based on modelling and in accordance with its flood manuals…
We are lost!

srr
srr
February 27, 2022 9:11 am

Anchor What says:
February 27, 2022 at 7:43 am

The ABC while reporting that Orban of Hungary has sided with the EU regarding sanctions against Russia couldn’t resist the urge to add that Orban was usually a big supporter of Putin. Doesn’t sound correct to me.

Sometimes we just have to remember The Swamp Is Global and no one said they’ve given up on draining it.

Also, it pays to give the snakes somewhere to slither to before you flush them out, somewhere experienced at dealing with snakes.

Indolent
Indolent
February 27, 2022 9:14 am
Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
February 27, 2022 9:14 am

How good is NSW gummint when it comes to building infrastructure?

Parra Stadium – fail.
Trains too wide for tunnels – fail.
Ferries too high for Parra River bridges – fail.
“Ferry McFerryface” fiasco- fail.
CBD light rail 9 months late and double the budget – fail.
Inner-west light rail service paused by cracks in the new vehicles – fail.
New Manly ferries with cracks in the hull. And incapable of loading passengers at low tide. And unsafe when crossing the heads in big seas – fail.

Yet we continue to overpay the senseless bureaucrats and politicians who make the original purchase decisions.
More fools us.

custard
custard
February 27, 2022 9:18 am

https://twitter.com/MarketRebels/status/1497675529490767881?t=9rFjewIQIkpLU6_u7Cn0sg&s=09

The financial director of Gazprom (big gas company) has been found dead by suicide in St Petersburg

miltonf
miltonf
February 27, 2022 9:18 am

These new Spanish electro diesel regional trains in NSW will be interesting. The NSW government certainly doesn’t like have trains built here anymore

calli
calli
February 27, 2022 9:20 am

Shatterzzzz, there was a huge amount of work done on Toongabbie Creek years ago to try to mitigate some of the damage from 1 in 100 floods.

Apart from damming the river upstream, affecting millions of properties, there isn’t a lot they can do. Siting the stadium in the bend of the river wasn’t the best choice, but it was the only available land.

The catchment has always had this problem – a vast array of ephemeral creeks that have been piped and built over that deliver water far too quickly to the lowest point, in this case the Parramatta river. The other hotspot is West Ryde in the dip. The pressure from the system used to blow the manhole covers. Too much development on what is, essentially, a floodplain.

Gab
Gab
February 27, 2022 9:21 am

How to pronounce Kyiv and why it is Kyiv not Kiev (from 2018)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8kkbc2pK6M

Makka
Makka
February 27, 2022 9:22 am

Yet we continue to overpay the senseless bureaucrats and politicians who make the original purchase decisions.

Many of whom jump ship tp join those projects at very opportune times to clean up as consultants and contractors . Projects projects they have deliberately fkd up and filled with loopholes for “variances”.

Razey
Razey
February 27, 2022 9:22 am

WW3 kicking off and final piece of WEF great reset? What say you?

custard
custard
February 27, 2022 9:27 am

The forces behind the great big reset are losing bigly.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 27, 2022 9:27 am

Old School Conservativesays:
February 27, 2022 at 9:14 am
How good is NSW gummint when it comes to building infrastructure?

Parra Stadium – fail.
Trains too wide for tunnels – fail.
Ferries too high for Parra River bridges – fail.
“Ferry McFerryface” fiasco- fail.
CBD light rail 9 months late and double the budget – fail.
Inner-west light rail service paused by cracks in the new vehicles – fail.
New Manly ferries with cracks in the hull. And incapable of loading passengers at low tide. And unsafe when crossing the heads in big seas – fail.

Yet we continue to overpay the senseless bureaucrats and politicians who make the original purchase decisions.
More fools us.

OSC, as someone who worked for Federal Govt Dept (indirectly for NSW Govt and all other States and Territories), sold into State and Federal Govt Depts, the golden rule for both Public Service Bureaucrats and Ministers was to pick Companies from overseas so you could be feted, go on lots of overseas trips to assess, then after selecting overseas company, be continuously travelling overseas for support meetings.

If Premier Perrottet had any brains, he would employ for every Minister, an experienced Executive in the Minister’s Portfolio to be a permanent external adviser to counteract the Portfolio Bureaucrats

Premier Perrottet should make it mandatory for every Minister appointed to watch the Complete Series of Yes Minister and Yes Prime Minister with a test after each episode

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 27, 2022 9:29 am

ONE of the most chilling sights in Budapest’s “House of Terror” is a Soviet T-55 battle tank. Such killing machines were dispatched by the Soviet Union to crush Hungary’s 1956 uprising against the Communist regime. It is unnerving to set eyes on this hulking grey metal beast in a museum when Russian tanks are now rolling into neighbouring Ukraine.

One of the other chilling sights in said “House of Terror”, on the walls surrounding said tank, are the photographs of those Hungarians who were killed in the 1956 uprising.

Razey
Razey
February 27, 2022 9:31 am

custardsays:
February 27, 2022 at 9:27 am
The forces behind the great big reset are losing bigly.

Care to elaborate?

srr
srr
February 27, 2022 9:32 am

“Indolent says:
February 27, 2022 at 8:44 am

Ben Carson at CPAC: Saying No to COVID-19 Vaccines for Kids ‘Makes You a Very Good Parent’
https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theepochtimes.com%2Fben-carson-at-cpac-saying-no-to-covid-19-vaccines-for-kids-makes-you-a-very-good-parent_4302971.html%2F%3Futm_source%3Dpartner%26utm_campaign%3DTheLibertyDaily

Yep, years, decades, of war against parents right & duty to protect their children From State Mandated Abuses but few wanted to fight it.

So now when the assaults against children stepped up, parents freely sacrificed them for ‘freedom’ and social acceptance.

Masks, UK reports have children already losing 20 I.Q. points!

That’s a devastation for at least another generation in a country where the average was only 100.

Sometimes I think everyone should have to read The Screwtape Letters before they can vote on anything.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 27, 2022 9:33 am

Headphones change listeners’ perceptions, judgements, behaviors

Headphones have a much greater impact on listeners than external speakers because they put voices “inside your head,” a new study explains.

“Headphones produce a phenomenon called in-head localization, which makes the speaker sound as if they’re inside your head,” said study co-author On Amir, a professor of marketing at the University of California, San Diego.

“Consequently, listeners perceive the communicators as closer — both physically and socially. As a result, listeners perceive the communicator as warmer, they feel and behave more empathically toward them and they are more easily persuaded by them,” Amir explained in a university news release.

The findings could have significant implications for training programs, remote work and advertising, according to the researchers.

Makka
Makka
February 27, 2022 9:37 am

This is dated 2019.

https://readsludge.com/2019/09/05/joe-biden-has-multiple-ties-to-liquefied-natural-gas-pioneer-cheniere-energy/

Looking around further on the web, it’s pretty clear that a number of US majors are planning massive multi billion $ LNG expansion projects to serve the European market. One potential outcome of the Ukraine situation is that US LNG outfits will benefit immensely from increased market share of the Euro energy market.

Another headline NYT Feb 2022;

Natural Gas Shipments, Mostly From U.S., Ease Europe’s Energy Crunch
As Russia squeezes supplies, a parade of tankers carrying liquefied natural gas is coming to Europe’s rescue.

I doubt this will worry Vlad to much. Russia can divert any amount of gas production to nearby new bestie China.

“Russia, China agree 30-year gas deal via new pipeline, to settle in euros”

It would appear that Vlad can take over the Donetsk region without suffering any real lasting loss in gas revenues . And some big US energy outfits are going to make a killing on the Euro gas markets. Ukraine is a mere pawn.

Helen
Helen
February 27, 2022 9:39 am

Here is a war dunny.

Note the bloke with the durry. I guess they are all having a chat, but I’d get in get done and get out, especially when the fly numbers exploded, as the dunnies did from time to time with the help of said durry heading south to the noxious gasses below and sometimes by design, as an aid on fly control.

shatterzzz
February 27, 2022 9:41 am

The catchment has always had this problem – a vast array of ephemeral creeks that have been piped and built over that deliver water far too quickly to the lowest point, in this case the Parramatta river. The other hotspot is West Ryde in the dip. The pressure from the system used to blow the manhole covers. Too much development on what is, essentially, a floodplain.
I was thinking something like the Northmead Dam built, for no other purpose than, to contain an over-abundance of water from continual downpours .. not so much a dam, as the word implies, but a temporary storage facility to either evaporate or be released into the natural system when conditions are suitable …

Helen
Helen
February 27, 2022 9:41 am

And here is Jacinda. Oh it must hurt, to be a Princess and then a witch.

But check out that stratospheric net worth rise. I wonder how that happened.

Helen
Helen
February 27, 2022 9:42 am

Captain very worried they are not letting enough water out of Wivenho. (sp?)

Roger
Roger
February 27, 2022 9:51 am

How to pronounce Kyiv and why it is Kyiv not Kiev (from 2018)

Should we pronounce Moscow as Moskva? Paris as Paree? Berlin, Bearlin?

What’s wrong with using the standard English pronunciations?

We’ll end up sounding like SBS news readers, whose inconsistency in applying the rule of adopting the native pronunciation only highlights the absurdity of it.

Delta A
Delta A
February 27, 2022 9:52 am

Great WIP.

Thanks, Tom.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 27, 2022 9:54 am

Nine did ‘deal’ with SAS witness to try and ‘steer clear’ of war crime allegations: court
Perry Duffin
Senior Court Reporter
@perryduffin1
NCA NewsWire
5:52PM February 25, 2022

Nine’s lawyers told an emotionally fragile SAS soldier they should be able to “steer clear” of his involvement in an alleged double war crime killing if he testified against Ben Roberts-Smith, a court has heard.

Mr Roberts-Smith’s lawyers have claimed emails reveal the “deal” between Nine and the SAS soldier raises ”concerns” about the conduct of the defence in the high profile defamation trial – a claim denied by Nine‘s council.

Mr Roberts-Smith is suing Nine and its journalists over a series of articles that claim he either killed, or ordered the killing, of six unarmed Afghans while deployed with the SAS.

Nine maintains the articles are true and have called SAS soldiers to testify against the Victoria Cross recipient about the allegations.

In an extraordinary hearing on Friday morning, one of Nine’s lawyers took the stand to be questioned by Mr Roberts-Smith’s barrister, Arthur Moses SC.

The focus of Mr Moses’ questions were emails between Nine’s lawyers and the lawyers for an SAS soldier known as Person 56 in August 2021.

It‘s understood Nine hoped Person 56 would testify about a mission in Darwan, in 2012, in which Mr Roberts-Smith is accused of kicking an unarmed, bound Afghan farmer named Ali Jan off a “cliff”.

The injured farmer, on Nine’s version of events, was shot dead by another Coalition soldier as he lay in a dry creek bed below.

Mr Roberts-Smith has denied the allegations entirely and says the only person he killed that could have been Ali Jan was carrying a suspected Taliban radio in a cornfield near the dry creek.

The court had refused to hear from Person 56 because Nine could not provide an outline, or summary, of what his evidence would be before he was called to court.

That‘s because Person 56 did not want to speak with Nine, the court heard.

On Friday it was revealed Nine had again approached Person 56 in the middle of 2021 to try and get him to speak – and they offered up an “agreement”, the court heard.

Nine’s lawyer, Peter Bartlett, told the court on Friday that his colleague had approached Person 56, through his lawyers, telling him they were aware the SAS soldier was involved in a double killing.

Nine said they believed Person 56 and Mr Roberts-Smith had killed people in the town of Fasil on November 5, 2012 – according to a transcript of the conversation contained in an email.

“The 5 November incident is hotly contested. The two people killed were by BRS and a member of his patrol, which we now know to be your client,” Nine lawyer Dean Levitan said to Sean Richter – Person 56’s lawyer

“We think we can steer clear of all that stuff and limit it to Darwan.”

Mr Bartlett confirmed that Nine’s lawyers had offered not to press their questions about Fasil if Person 56 willingly spoke to them about Darwan and agreed to give evidence in court

Roger
Roger
February 27, 2022 9:55 am

Looks like Putin has rolled the dice and come up short.

A brief but useful summary of events on the ground thus far by Richard Fernandez.

miltonf
miltonf
February 27, 2022 9:57 am

there is no doubt that Trudeau overstepped his authority and was forced to beat a hasty retreat. But this is no consolation, for Trudeau and his allies will only regroup, strategize and prepare to launch another attack, or series of attacks, against the social contract and the body politic.Some liberal democracy

miltonf
miltonf
February 27, 2022 9:58 am

We’ll end up sounding like SBS news readers, whose inconsistency in applying the rule of adopting the native pronunciation only highlights the absurdity of it.

Reminds me of George Dunnycan

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
February 27, 2022 10:00 am

“The government loves its people, but its not consensual love”.

miltonf
miltonf
February 27, 2022 10:01 am

Must admit I always thought it was Key-eff but then why do we pronounce Goethe the German way and Luther like reading English?

Roger
Roger
February 27, 2022 10:06 am

Must admit I always thought it was Key-eff but then why do we pronounce Goethe the German way and Luther like reading English?

Because we’re trying to sound smarter than we are.

lotocoti
lotocoti
February 27, 2022 10:07 am

What’s wrong with using the standard English pronunciations?

Don’t you want to sound swave and de-boner?

custard
custard
February 27, 2022 10:09 am

I think there is evidence everywhere that the great big awakening is winning over the great big reset.

Censorship of the truth by big tech and MSM

Misinformation about the efficacy of therapeutics treatment of the ChinaVirus

Having to forcibly get people to take a vaccine for an overall very harmless virus

Freezing bank accounts

Closing state borders

These are not the actions of the side that’s winning.

They are panicking, bigly.

Razey
Razey
February 27, 2022 10:11 am

custardsays:
February 27, 2022 at 10:09 am
I think there is evidence everywhere that the great big awakening is winning over the great big reset.

Censorship of the truth by big tech and MSM

Misinformation about the efficacy of therapeutics treatment of the ChinaVirus

Having to forcibly get people to take a vaccine for an overall very harmless virus

Freezing bank accounts

Closing state borders

These are not the actions of the side that’s winning.

They are panicking, bigly.

They pushed it as far as they thought they could and got away with it.

I believe they are winning.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
February 27, 2022 10:12 am

This made a lot of sense to me when I read it.

“Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect is as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray’s case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward—reversing cause and effect. I call these the “wet streets cause rain” stories. Paper’s full of them.

In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story, and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about Palestine than the baloney you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know.”
– Michael Crichton (1942-2008)

shatterzzz
February 27, 2022 10:14 am

Must admit I always thought it was Key-eff but then why do we pronounce Goethe the German way and Luther like reading English?

I don’t really care how they pronounce it but it’d be a lot simpler just to spell it KIEV .. like it has been for yonks instead of this look-how-clever-we-is media adaptation to KYIV .. never , ever remember seeing it spelt this way (in English) until 3 days ago .. LOL!

Zatara
Zatara
February 27, 2022 10:15 am
miltonf
miltonf
February 27, 2022 10:19 am

pretentious piffle- did chicken kiev start there? maybe it’s chicken kyiv now

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
February 27, 2022 10:20 am

spell it KIEV .. like it has been for yonks

Just like the change from long term Mao Tse Tung to Mao Zedong.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
February 27, 2022 10:24 am

Fixing the family cars
Beating/killing home intruders before the cops come
Cleaning gutters
Fixing the roof
Being the family gravedigger for family pets
Doing most of the driving on long trips
Working when you are on maternity leave and paying the mortgage
Paying most of the bills
Unlicensed electrical work
Any gardening/clean up beyond planting petunias
Good old stinking tip runs to the waste management centre
The majority of handyman work
Unlicensed plumbing & electrical
Getting quotes from tradespeople

Doing house renovations after other people have been watching The Block
Painting feature walls
Removing feature walls and putting them in other rooms in other colours after the next episode of The Block
Pack-horsing bamboo screens and lattice and endless plants out of Bunnings for someone else’s project, then doing that project yourself because after 20 minutes it became apparent that it wasn’t like on the telly
Killing spiders
Explaining why it’s not my fault spiders are in the house (and the verandah and the garden)
Installing fake old-timey railway station clocks in lounge rooms
Conducting tutorials on why dynabolts won’t work in plaster
Doing dishes that aren’t yours because you were at work
Having any conversation with anyone outside the household that may involve disagreement
Changing tap washers
Walking unruly dogs because it’s too hard
Spending the first hour after your arrival home after a 14 hour day resolving petty arguments other people have had
Sundry other tasks so that other people can conduct a bit of one-upmanship during ‘girl time’ by saying ‘well I get him to do this, this and that, haha.’

10 hours a week. Surely Amnesty International would be interested in this.

‘He’d be happy eating beans on toast 5 days a week’. She’s not worried about his diet.

This is a shameless ploy for the bloke to stop doing his full-time work ‘because he’s at home’ and make HER some frightful bok choi-based stir fried arrangement with 40 ingredients every day, carefully plated up – as they do on the telly.

That poor sod’s only got to do this once, and it’s all over. Once the dam is breached, it’ll be a variety of three-lettuce lunches with oil from Moldova and chicken blancmange or whatever Andrew Daddo made on set that day.

Don’t tactically withdraw, son. Walk backwards quickly, and run a scorched earth policy as you go that would put Stalin to shame.

Zatara
Zatara
February 27, 2022 10:28 am

Ukrainian driver talks to the Russians who run out of fuel on their way to #Kyiv:
– Vehicle broke?
– No, waiting for diesel.
– I can tug you back to Russia!
– [Russians laugh]
– Do you know where are you going?
– No. What’s in the news?
– #Ukraine wins. Your guys surrender

Des Deskperson
Des Deskperson
February 27, 2022 10:30 am

Australia’s worst political cartoonist, David Pope, has joined the ranks of the likes of Jane Caro and Waleed Ali.

He has won a Walkley.

He’s awful, welded on sub cerebral ‘progressive’, plodding draftsmanship, works cluttered with so many bourgeois left ‘talking points’ that they are often unintelligent and, as COVID has revealed, an enthusiastic worshiper of state power, the last a very bad look indeed for any political cartoonist.

He makes Kathy Wilcox look brave and independent by comparison

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 27, 2022 10:31 am

The First Casualty of War is the Truth – The Current Western Propaganda for Ukraine is Epic in Scale

February 26, 2022 | Sundance | 516 Comments

When we shared yesterday that all interested observers should be very wary of the information from media sources around Ukraine, there was a reason for that. Question everything. Take nothing at face value.

If you have never experienced the propaganda push surrounding war, the totality of the inbound bullsh*t can be destabilizing, overwhelming and unnerving. It’s one of the reasons why CTH doesn’t share immediate information. Everyone has an agenda.

Everything in modern warfare is storytelling.

Question all of it.

The stories of the 13 guards on an island telling the Russian naval ship to fuck off, yeah it was a lie (turns out they surrendered). The “Ghost of Kyiv” pilot, the lady with the sunflower seeds etc., now all recognized as lies and propaganda. And do not expect it to stop, because it won’t. Thus, the nature of warfare for your mind.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 27, 2022 10:31 am

Killing spiders

Killing snakes on the verandah, and in the kitchen.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
February 27, 2022 10:32 am

Yet we continue to overpay the senseless bureaucrats and politicians who make the original purchase decisions.
More fools us.

This shits me to tears.

Underpaid, underrecognised, and seeing projects continually fucked up by people paid far more than me. I consistently get projects completed successfully, overcome obstacles and never fuck up like these people do. These things would never happen under my watch and yet I cant get any of these jobs because they value experience over performance, face value claims over real world results and friends over strangers.

There’s a commonality in those failures, and it’s Transport for NSW. Execs can totally screw up and leverage claims of success when the opposite is true to get bigger jobs on obscene pay.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
February 27, 2022 10:34 am

spell it KIEV .. like it has been for yonks

nah. change it.
And
Brizzy
Sidknee
Malbun

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 27, 2022 10:40 am

Byron York’s Daily Memo: A guide to Clinton dirty tricks

by Byron York, Chief Political Correspondent

A GUIDE TO CLINTON DIRTY TRICKS. Hillary Clinton, the former first lady, Secretary of State, and 2016 presidential candidate, is deflecting again. Recent revelations from a federal investigation have suggested that her campaign engaged in dirty tricks in the race against Donald Trump six years ago. Those revelations, of course, come on top of earlier disclosures that she engaged in what might be called the ultimate dirty trick, the Steele dossier, in the same campaign.

Now that there is some attention being paid to these matters, Clinton is lashing out against Trump and some media outlets.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
February 27, 2022 10:42 am

and Duhwin

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 27, 2022 10:42 am
Diogenes
Diogenes
February 27, 2022 10:44 am

Bearlin

Try Bearlean

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
February 27, 2022 10:45 am

Duhwin

‘Daaaarwn’.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
February 27, 2022 10:46 am

Paris -> Parry

srr
srr
February 27, 2022 10:47 am

Indolent says:
February 27, 2022 at 9:14 am
Involuntary shock treatment in Queensland?

Involuntary Mental Health Orders and the Use of ECT on Children in Qld

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_2zk0oyQQA

The more evil we accept because the medical experts tell us we should, the more evil is inflicted on by the medical experts.

Yes, they, not ‘the politicians’ they install to do their will.

We made doctors our gods, trusting our lives to them, and like all false gods, they have served us like the devil.

Sure, there are good and blessing men amongst them as in all fields of human endeavour but when we look around now at how many have had to fight to keep their licences for daring to work to keep people alive and make them well, against the establishments orders, we’ve obviously established the wrong ones on top and in our ‘faith’.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
February 27, 2022 10:47 am

LEE SMITH: Ukraine’s Deadly Gamble

Quite a good little argument as to why Putin might want to snot Ukraine.

Not 100% convincing but at least it sets out some possible “whys”?

Zatara
Zatara
February 27, 2022 10:52 am

Amazing: Kyiv Is Still Holding out, and Putin Is Reportedly Furious

Russia seems to be running out of steam, along with fuel, ammo, money, and time.

Ukraine Responds With an Attack in Russia, and More Weapons Are on Way to Ukraine

While Ukraine is under attack from the Russians in their own country, they struck back on Friday on an airfield from which some of the attacks on their country are believed to have been launched.

That doesn’t sound like a country on the verge of defeat.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 27, 2022 10:54 am

Seqwater is working closely with the Bureau of Meteorology to assess the evolving situation and need for flood releases, based on modelling and in accordance with its flood manuals…

lol
The time for releases was a fortnight ago.
On a brighter note, The Fire Danger Rating is:
Moderate.

Diogenes
Diogenes
February 27, 2022 10:58 am

Cobol is not the problem, lack of people willing to learn it is.

There is still a lot of spaghetti code around that is difficult to change and companies have built massive and very clunky change control processes. So that is why people don’t like touching it.

As part of y2k remediation I looked at a cobol program, that was still in use, written in 1965 and not touched in the intervening period. I suggested that it would be quicker and safer to rewrite than remediate, but was told to remediate. I know that it was still in use until at least 2015.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 27, 2022 11:02 am

How’s the basement Groogs? No wasting any skin I hope.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
February 27, 2022 11:03 am

Second and last post on this hilarious yet terrifying subject.

I was once hooked up with a tasty bit of kit (TBOK). Had some potential to be, y’know, serious. Her parents had a shed about the size of a carport on their block which was ramshackle and generally fucked.

I was given a tour of the shed (which I’d seen and been in countless times anyway), and the prospect of demolishing it and replacing it with a newer structure was raised – first in general terms, and then specifically that I do it, as her old man had broken his leg the year before and wasn’t yet 100%.

Hopeful-future-MIL then said that should this be accomplished, I would be considered to have crossed over from boyfriend to potential husband material. This was one thing, but as this message was being delivered TBOK was nodding in the background like TV reporters do on ACA. Clearly, this had been discussed at length and in my absence.

Having seen my future at that point, I became noncommittal yet genial. And then, the following week, I walked. Walked, like a man who could see colour and smell freshly-cut grass for the first time, and like someone who went across traffic to get out of a one-way street, and who then had his choice of roads to drive on.

And six months later I threw it all away by proposing to my new girlfriend of three months whilst drunk as ten men in Noosa. As the man said in Trainspotting, ‘It’s a fucking tightrope‘.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 27, 2022 11:05 am

How’s being a mocker worked out for you, HB?

Zatara
Zatara
February 27, 2022 11:05 am

2 more merchant ships hit by Russian attacks in Black Sea.

Japanese bulk carrier MV Namura Queen hit by a rocket at anchor off Yuzhne.

Moldovan chemical tanker MV Millennial Spirit hit and set on fire 12 miles to the south

Ouch. That’s not helpful Vlad.

Roger
Roger
February 27, 2022 11:06 am

Hamish MacDonald in the SMH:

‘A war correspondent’s nightmare: deciphering Putin’

I guess Hamish hasn’t bothered to watch or read the English transcript of Putin’s hour long speech to the Russian people explaining in plain language his objectives. And in fact hasn’t paid much attention to anything Putin has said over the last decade, like his similarly dumbfounded Australian journalistic colleagues (Stan Grant a notable exception).

The conceit of Western elitists on display: they believe everyone is at heart a rootless, nihilistic, hedonistic liberal made in their image, even when someone has told them to take their bankrupt ideology and shove it.

Makka
Makka
February 27, 2022 11:07 am

Myth: Ukrainians were killed to a man on Snake Island by Russians

A massive pro-Ukraine propaganda campaign is underway across all kinds of media. Russia has been blanked out from participating in the news so punters are predominantly hearing the very much hyped US/EU/Ukraine version of censored events unfolding.

From what I can gather, the Russian objective to keep everyone busy guessing around Kiev and other parts of Ukraine while securing the Donbass/Donetsk region with physical Russian occupancy is progressing.

P
P
February 27, 2022 11:07 am

Why I blame the arrogant, foolish West:
Our response to this crisis in Ukraine has been to react with mistrust and abuse, and with blatant attempts to worsen the situation,
writes PETER HITCHENS
23 February 2022

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
February 27, 2022 11:08 am

Russia seems to be running out of steam, along with fuel, ammo, money, and time.

Putin appears to require the services of a Zhukov and a Konev.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
February 27, 2022 11:12 am

Skah just showed some footage of what appears to be a series of shredded-up shade structures, complete with burn damage in an urban Ukrainian environment. Undamaged buildings, plenty of parked-up unexploded cars.

Half a dozen blokes in uniform standing around the damage. They’re all on phones. Not one is carrying a firearm.

This was mentioned yesterday. I am beginning to think this stinks.

JMH
JMH
February 27, 2022 11:12 am

Des Deskpersonsays:
February 27, 2022 at 10:30 am

Welcome home, Des. You’ve been missed.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
February 27, 2022 11:12 am

Gas pipeline just hit in Ukraine at Khakiv, fierce fighting going on apparently.

Oil refinery hit near Vasylkiv SW of Kiev, reports of fighting there too.

Russian machinery running out of fuel apparently on road to Kiev, if true not a good look or supply lines are being hit behind the front.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
February 27, 2022 11:13 am

Frydenburg just said ‘shirtfront’.

Lessons not learned.

Razey
Razey
February 27, 2022 11:13 am

Makkasays:
February 27, 2022 at 11:07 am
Myth: Ukrainians were killed to a man on Snake Island by Russians

A massive pro-Ukraine propaganda campaign is underway across all kinds of media. Russia has been blanked out from participating in the news so punters are predominantly hearing the very much hyped US/EU/Ukraine version of censored events unfolding.

From what I can gather, the Russian objective to keep everyone busy guessing around Kiev and other parts of Ukraine while securing the Donbass/Donetsk region with physical Russian occupancy is progressing.

And if the Covid psyop is anything to go by, the Sheep will just lap it up.

custard
custard
February 27, 2022 11:14 am

Trump live now at CPAC

Razey
Razey
February 27, 2022 11:14 am

dover0beachsays:
February 27, 2022 at 11:08 am
Russia seems to be running out of steam, along with fuel, ammo, money, and time.

People need to stop kidding themselves. We are only at day four. Russia has deployed no more than 60,000 soldiers in in at least five separate lines of advance. They have not used any artillery. None of the ‘shock and awe’ that the US used in Iraq. They are for now still treading very lightly. I hope this continues and quickly goes to the negotiating table.

The fact that the power and water is still on in Kiev means Vlad isn’t trying too hard.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
February 27, 2022 11:16 am

I was once hooked up with a tasty bit of kit (TBOK)

/walrus honking intensifies….

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 27, 2022 11:16 am

2 more merchant ships hit by Russian attacks in Black Sea.

2 more?
Yeah, sure.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 27, 2022 11:17 am

Frydenburg just said ‘shirtfront’.
Lessons not learned.

Getting ready for the handover.

bons
bons
February 27, 2022 11:17 am

Megan. The Cap’n is indeed a smart lad.
Bureaucrats in charge of flood mitigation? ?
Lots of work for the Wagners coming up.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 27, 2022 11:19 am

The fact that the power and water is still on in Kiev means Vlad isn’t trying too hard.

Either that or he’s in the tank for the baddies.

Dot
Dot
February 27, 2022 11:20 am

And if the Covid psyop is anything to go by, the Sheep will just lap it up.

Vladimir Putin is above such underhanded tactics. He’s the saviour of Christendom and the West after all. Pan Eurasian supremacy has benefits for us, too!

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 27, 2022 11:21 am

How’s being a troll worked out for you, Gargooglery?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 27, 2022 11:21 am

Having seen my future at that point,

Didn’t Tom T Hall write a song, with that theme? “Pretty Pamela Brown?” “Probably be driving kids to school?”

Razey
Razey
February 27, 2022 11:22 am

Dotsays:
February 27, 2022 at 11:20 am
And if the Covid psyop is anything to go by, the Sheep will just lap it up.

Vladimir Putin is above such underhanded tactics. He’s the saviour of Christendom and the West after all. Pan Eurasian supremacy has benefits for us, too!

Australia along with the West have been cast down with the sodomites. Nothing is coming to save us.

rickw
rickw
February 27, 2022 11:22 am

Frydenburg just said ‘shirtfront’.

Lessons not learned.

Deeply embedded Mong programming.

Bear Necessities
Bear Necessities
February 27, 2022 11:23 am

Cobol is not the problem, lack of people willing to learn it is.

There is still a lot of spaghetti code around that is difficult to change and companies have built massive and very clunky change control processes. So that is why people don’t like touching it.

As part of y2k remediation I looked at a cobol program, that was still in use, written in 1965 and not touched in the intervening period. I suggested that it would be quicker and safer to rewrite than remediate, but was told to remediate. I know that it was still in use until at least 2015.

Change Control in many large company’s is a nightmare. So many gates and so many egos. Eventually it leds to no changes being made. People give up. That’s why you see so many legacy systems from the 70’s and 80’s and earlier still carrying on.

custard
custard
February 27, 2022 11:23 am

Recently I was tested for being eligible for Laser eye surgery but was told my corneas were too thin.

On Thursday I had the first of two procedures with the replacement of the lens in my left eye.

Jeez I’ve been missing out on a lot. Truely amazing ?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
February 27, 2022 11:23 am

mole,

Christine was an experiment.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
February 27, 2022 11:24 am

From what I can gather, the Russian objective to keep everyone busy guessing around Kiev and other parts of Ukraine while securing the Donbass/Donetsk region with physical Russian occupancy is progressing.

Not sure.

The original masterstroke* appears to have been seizing and exploiting an air bridgehead right in the guts of Kiev and holding it while more troops/equipment were flown in.
Provided reports are genuine it appears that failed badly and a number of transports and troops were lost along with the initial dropped force.

Whats happening now might be an unplanned scramble to force a result on the fly.
So the apparent poor logistics & planning now might be a little deceiving.

*The enemy always gets a say in if its a masterstroke of a cockup.

Eyrie
Eyrie
February 27, 2022 11:25 am

And if the Covid psyop is anything to go by, the Sheep will just lap it up.

As shown by those disseminating propaganda here.
I’m not going to believe a damn thing about this until it is all over and someone puts together the whole story, maybe not even then.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
February 27, 2022 11:26 am

Hells bells!
Redcliffe just had 117mm in an hour.
540mm for the previous 48 hours.
That’s seriously wet.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
February 27, 2022 11:27 am

Now I remember what it reminds me of.
The battle for Crete.
https://www.historynet.com/hitlers-last-airdrop-crete-1941/

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 27, 2022 11:27 am

9 inches of rain in Brisbn on Friday, 9 inches on Saturday, 1 inch since 9 am [80 minutes] and it’s coming straight down.

Makka
Makka
February 27, 2022 11:28 am

Vladimir Putin is above such underhanded tactics. He’s the saviour of Christendom and the West after all. Pan Eurasian supremacy has benefits for us, too!

Take the blinkers off dotty.

The psyop is being perpetrated by the west. You can’t read a news page or twitter feed without it blaring in your face. The good people of Ukraine have backed the shelling of Russian populated towns for years with no thought for the hole they were digging for themselves- egged on by the Euroweenies and NATO with a wink to EU and NATO status – eventually.

The propaganda is a massive arse covering exercise designed to take attention far from the EU/NATO clowns who sucked in Ukraine’s gullible leadership.

rickw
rickw
February 27, 2022 11:29 am

As part of y2k remediation I looked at a cobol program, that was still in use, written in 1965 and not touched in the intervening period.

Big advantage being that it wasn’t programmed by generation Mong! Oh, oops, sorry, that wasn’t supposed to happen….

Roger
Roger
February 27, 2022 11:30 am

LEE SMITH: Ukraine’s Deadly Gamble

Quite a good little argument as to why Putin might want to snot Ukraine.

As Bernard Lewis said in regard to another debacle overseen by the US State Department, “the danger here is that America risks being seen as harmless as an enemy, and treacherous as a friend.”

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
February 27, 2022 11:32 am

Change Control in many large company’s is a nightmare. So many gates and so many egos. Eventually it leads to no changes being made. People give up.

Large mining companies are exactly like this especially in the safety realm. There was however a small windback on the more onerous/useless stuff during the downturn.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
February 27, 2022 11:32 am

Knuckle Draggersays:
February 27, 2022 at 11:23 am
mole,

Christine was an experiment.

Young and naive KD?
Or forging new frontiers in man-mammal relations?

…..
I’m not going to believe a damn thing about this until it is all over and someone puts together the whole story, maybe not even then.
Very good advice.
We can speculate away, but a lot of it is based on pure self serving bullshit from both sides.

Ivan Denisovich
Ivan Denisovich
February 27, 2022 11:33 am

Why I blame the arrogant, foolish West:
Our response to this crisis in Ukraine has been to react with mistrust and abuse, and with blatant attempts to worsen the situation,
writes PETER HITCHENS
23 February 2022

Thanks, P. A superb piece by Hitchens.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 27, 2022 11:33 am

Not being a Troll hasn’t done me any harm so far, put it that way?

Makka
Makka
February 27, 2022 11:34 am

Provided reports are genuine it appears that failed badly and a number of transports and troops were lost along with the initial dropped force.

I’ve failed to find any corroborative evidence. A location so close to heavily populated areas in this day and age where everyone has a recording device and no pics?

Pics of molotovs thrown at armour in city settings has already been debunked as prior events from years ago. Lots of propaganda about.

Eyrie
Eyrie
February 27, 2022 11:34 am

As Dover said maybe they are advancing too quickly.
The video doing the rounds is remarkable for a couple of things: The Ukranians aren’t a) shooting at the Russian tank and crew and b) aren’t throwing Molotov cocktails.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 27, 2022 11:35 am

We can speculate away, but a lot of it is based on pure self serving bullshit from both sides.

The a pox on both their houses hideyhole, eh?

cohenite
February 27, 2022 11:36 am

Guardian still pushing bullshit that the chunk virus came from the wet market and not the lab:

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/coronavirus-came-from-wuhan-market-and-not-chinese-lab-twin-studies-say/ar-AAUlOp4?ocid=entnewsntp

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
February 27, 2022 11:36 am

Wow, CL has a thread up that Ukraine’s President is appealing for foreign fighters to join the fray. Law of unintended consequences anyone?

pete m
pete m
February 27, 2022 11:37 am

Ed Casesays:
February 27, 2022 at 10:54 am
Seqwater is working closely with the Bureau of Meteorology to assess the evolving situation and need for flood releases, based on modelling and in accordance with its flood manuals…

lol
The time for releases was a fortnight ago.

Wivenhoe at 55% 2 weeks ago click historic link below wivenhoe entry.

Many thought water restrictions would be needed when it fell to below 40% near xmas 2021.

Honestly, does anyone for 1 moment belive a dam with 2mil ML of flood storage and at only 55% needed to be lowered at that time?

The moron ‘s writings are beyond unhinged and simply trolling, but noted for the record.

srr
srr
February 27, 2022 11:40 am

Stunning Discovery – Evidence Suggests U.S. Intel Baited Russia in December by Telling China Ukraine Was Coming Into NATO
February 26, 2022 | Sundance | 249 Comments

Major HatTip to [PTC on Twitter] for finding this article and quote. First, the context:

Yesterday, the New York Times reported on U.S. intelligence and diplomatic officials from the State Dept sharing intelligence with Chinese officials in the three months leading up to the Russian invasion. {Go Deep on Analysis} The narrative from the article tells the story of the U.S. trying to convince China in December, January and February to intervene and persuade Russia not to cross the border into Ukraine.

Many people have looked at this story from the perspective of incompetence, i.e. why would the Biden team think China would not share the intel, etc.

However, when it comes to these types of issues, never ascribe to incompetence that which can be explained by intent.

There’s every reason to believe what the Biden intelligence community and state department were sharing with China, was done with the intention of Beijing giving it to Moscow.

From that perspective, the question around intent becomes, what did they push and why did they push it?

Now we get to the story, quote and critical Reuters article from December of 2021. What was being said by Joe Biden to Ukraine President Vladimir Zelenskyy?

Reuters, December 9, 2021 – “U.S. President Joe Biden assured Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy that Kyiv’s bid to join the NATO military alliance was in its own hands, Zelenskiy’s chief of staff said after the two leaders spoke on Thursday.

Biden and Zelenskiy had a call two days after Biden held talks with Russian President Vladimir Putin to try to defuse a crisis over Russian troop movements near Ukraine’s borders. (read more)

In mid-December of 2021, Joe Biden was telling President Zelenskyy the entry of Ukraine into NATO was up to Ukraine. If they want in, they’re in.

This is a red line for Russia, Joe Biden knew it. Vladimir Putin had been very clear about his opposition, and everyone knew it. Russia would never concede allowing Ukraine to enter NATO.
(more…)
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/02/26/stunning-discovery-evidence-suggests-u-s-intel-baited-russia-in-december-by-telling-china-ukraine-was-coming-into-nato/

srr
srr
February 27, 2022 11:41 am

The First Casualty of War Is the Truth – The Current Western Propaganda for Ukraine Is Epic in Scale
February 26, 2022 | Sundance | 570 Comments
When we shared yesterday that all interested observers should be very wary of the information from media sources around Ukraine, there was a reason for that. Question everything. Take nothing at face value.

If you have never experienced the propaganda push surrounding war, the totality of the inbound bullsh*t can be destabilizing, overwhelming and unnerving. It’s one of the reasons why CTH doesn’t share immediate information. Everyone has an agenda.

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Everything we are seeing in U.S. media surrounding U.S. interests in Ukraine is a massive propaganda operation with the headquarters in the U.S. State Department and U.S. intelligence community. The sense of sympathy you are feeling is part of an intentionally manipulative operation from within this DC matrix.

The images, pictures, videos, speeches, soundbites and the cinematography broadcast by U.S. corporate media are all purposefully intended to create a very specific outlook within the American people toward the issues in Ukraine. The leftist United Nations, and the leftist U.S State Dept, will work together on this just like they have done in the prior examples (Ukraine 1.0, Libya, Egypt, etc.).

It is very easy to become a victim of psychological warfare intended to manipulate our opinions.
(more…)
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/02/26/the-first-casualty-of-war-is-the-truth-the-current-western-propaganda-for-ukraine-is-epic-in-scale/

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
February 27, 2022 11:41 am

Hopeful-future-MIL then said that should this be accomplished, I would be considered to have crossed over from boyfriend to potential husband material. This was one thing, but as this message was being delivered TBOK was nodding in the background like TV reporters do on ACA. Clearly, this had been discussed at length and in my absence.

Your premise being that women should love you regardless of your input into their grand life plan.
I think I have detected a significant flaw in your knowledge of the female species.

Dot
Dot
February 27, 2022 11:42 am

The psyop is being perpetrated by the west. You can’t read a news page or twitter feed without it blaring in your face

Yes I know. We should stay out of it.

The good people of Ukraine have backed the shelling of Russian populated towns for years

Have they?

Either the elections are rigged and things are run by Hillary & Hunter or they are not.

If they did so, why? What justification could they possibly bring up.

It is reasonable to say Crimea ought to be Russian. Not as if Ukraine has a choice about that.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
February 27, 2022 11:48 am

As Red Green would say
“If you can’t be handsome be handy”

Eyrie
Eyrie
February 27, 2022 11:51 am

I hope Zelensky and his ilk are actually giving the civilians he’s giving arms to uniforms also and some kind of command structure. Otherwise they will be unlawful combatants. Likewise anyone dumb enough to go to Ukraine and fight for it.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
February 27, 2022 11:52 am

Dot

Dear dot.
Please help me, a well known x-spert* is trying to ridicule me for not being on the right side of a war 1/2 the world away.
This war involves a rather shitty chap with nuclear weapons and a rather shitty nation which was used as part of a scheme to depose an elected US president.
Should I listen to the x-spert* and take a side or jus not give a shit either way?
Yours sincerely, I dont give a shit.

*Megamong

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
February 27, 2022 11:54 am

This is kind of cool/clever.

https://news.yahoo.com/elon-musk-says-spacex-starlink-231101051.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=tw&tsrc=twtr

Elon Musk says SpaceX’s Starlink satellites are now active over Ukraine after a request from the embattled country’s leadership to replace internet services destroyed by the Russian attack.

Vladimir Putin’s unprovoked invasion has left parts of the country without internet, while SpaceX has launched thousands of communications satellites to bring broadband to hard to reach areas of the world.

“Starlink service is now active in Ukraine. More terminals en route,” the entrepreneur tweeted on Saturday.

Makka
Makka
February 27, 2022 11:54 am

Either the elections are rigged and things are run by Hillary & Hunter or they are not.

Ukraine threw their lot in with the snakes in Brussels, DC and NATO. Fat slimey bureaucrats whose only purpose is to fatten themselves at anyone else’s expense. Ukraine’s leaders went after the Russian enclaves in the east for years- now it’s bit them in the arse. Thus is the destiny of geopolitical pawns, sadly. But, the Ukraine political elites have served their people very badly. The geographic reality should have them developing a democracy based on avoiding conflict with their big aggro neighbour, rather than the shit show they’ve been running with corrupt US and EU actors.

Dot
Dot
February 27, 2022 11:58 am

mole

You should flip a coin each day and uncritically regurgitate either what CNN or Russian Toady say.

Bluey
Bluey
February 27, 2022 11:59 am

Eyriesays:
February 27, 2022 at 11:51 am
I hope Zelensky and his ilk are actually giving the civilians he’s giving arms to uniforms also and some kind of command structure. Otherwise they will be unlawful combatants. Likewise anyone dumb enough to go to Ukraine and fight for it.

I don’t reckon it’s going to work out. Seen some other places they’re just as likely to try to sell the weapons on the black market. Also been a number of incidents reported of people taking them and try to rob places, and shootouts between civil defense groups. Just a mess, but we’re not going to know the truth of the matter for quite a while.

Roger
Roger
February 27, 2022 12:02 pm

I hope Zelensky and his ilk are actually giving the civilians he’s giving arms to uniforms also and some kind of command structure. Otherwise they will be unlawful combatants. Likewise anyone dumb enough to go to Ukraine and fight for it.

A Ukrainian journalist interviewed on ABC yesterday said they weren’t just handing out guns, as reported in the West, but enlisting all volunteers into the army.

Foreigners will apparently be channelled into an entity called the Ukrainian Territorial Defense Force, which appears to have just been set up for this purpose.

srr
srr
February 27, 2022 12:03 pm

Razey says:
February 27, 2022 at 9:22 am
WW3 kicking off and final piece of WEF great reset? What say you?

Why does this influential, unelected globalist entity really exist?
OP-ED
Much more light must be shed on the World Economic Forum’s agenda and its string-pullers
[…]
Just before the Covid pandemic, on October 15, 2019, the organization announced that it was holding a “live simulation exercise to prepare public and private leaders for pandemic response.” If that sounds oddly coincidental, buckle up, because it only gets weirder.
[…]
It would be easy to chalk it all up to creepy rhetorical coincidence if there wasn’t an actual link between Schwab, Davos, and elected officials like Rutte and Trudeau. It’s a link about which even Schwab himself has bragged. In 2017, he told an audience at Harvard University’s John F. Kennedy School of Government: “What we are very proud of is the young generation, like Prime Minister Trudeau… We penetrate the cabinets.”
[…]
No citizen in any country actually voted to adopt the Davos agenda. And it’s debatable whether a sufficient number actually would. According to its own website, the WEF agenda includes increased digital integration and digitization, “urgent” climate change response, and a vision of a “Fourth Industrial Revolution” that is “characterized by a range of new technologies that are fusing the physical, digital and biological worlds, impacting all disciplines, economies and industries, and even challenging ideas about what it means to be human.” The organization is also exploring the notion of “human enhancement”.
[…]
There is nothing more undemocratic than elected officials serving any other master than their people.

Much more light deserves to be shed on this supranational entity, its string-pullers, and the extent to which their agenda trickles down into our daily lives.

https://www.rt.com/news/550523-wef-davos-agenda-covid-schwab/

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
February 27, 2022 12:03 pm

Your premise being that women should love you regardless of your input into their grand life plan.

I don’t think women should love me for a skill set Gez – whether I have it, as I do with shed replacement, or not – because ‘love’ is an intangible, ephemeral thing that transcends the physical.

You go down that path and irrelevant stuff becomes a trigger for ‘love’, like the ability to dig perfect post holes every time, or that you are particularly good at selling biscuits or T shirts on the internet.

It’s a big thing. It’s not a competition. I’ll know it when I see it. I may be the greatest poorly-cooked smallgoods bloke in the country, but that shouldn’t necessarily mean people should fall in love with me for it.

Too often it’s a fake status contest for chicks, and I’m not playing that game.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 27, 2022 12:05 pm

Honestly, does anyone for 1 moment belive a dam with 2mil ML of flood storage and at only 55% needed to be lowered at that time?

2 weeks ago?
As it turns out now, yeah, 2 weeks ago was the correct time to release water from Wivenhoe.
But, since that didn’t happen, any releases will now feed into major flooding in the Bremer River and Warrill Creek and minor flooding [at the moment] in low lying areas of Brisbane.
Plus, it looks like a King Tide at Indooroopilly on Wednesday mid morning.

Dot
Dot
February 27, 2022 12:06 pm

Too often it’s a fake status contest for chicks, and I’m not playing that game.

I am genuinely shocked at this suggestion.

How dare you, you are a cad and a bounder sir.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 27, 2022 12:08 pm

You should flip a coin each day and uncritically regurgitate either what CNN or Russian Toady say.

Agree, though it’s all CNN today, since Fox has taken RT down in Australia.

C.L.
C.L.
February 27, 2022 12:10 pm

Sending troops – let alone civilians – into combat for a cause with absolutely no prospect of success in order to – what? – bring on a wider European war? could be considered a war crime.

Diogenes
Diogenes
February 27, 2022 12:10 pm

Big advantage being that it wasn’t programmed by generation Mong!

Big disadvantage it was written in the days before structured programming. Gotos galore.

cohenite
February 27, 2022 12:13 pm

Ukrainian man offers to tow enemy tank back to Russia after it runs out of fuel

This is getting a bit surreal. One thing though, the Ukrainians have balls.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
February 27, 2022 12:14 pm

How dare you, you are a cad and a bounder sir.

An impertinent oaf in a Morocco tavern once called me a rotter and a scoundrel.

I gave him a taste of the whip.

srr
srr
February 27, 2022 12:14 pm

They are panicking, bigly.

🙂
yep, as also indicated by their social media propaganda arms having explosive hissy fits all over the Net.

When you’re suddenly put under the gun to re-sell bullshit you were told you’d already made the world swallow, only this time it’s going to be harder, well, you get miffed & lose your cool.

Dang that human nature, they’ll just have to sack more human propagandists and install more bots, and every paid propagandist knows this.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
February 27, 2022 12:15 pm

Russia continues bombing critical infrastructure in Ukraine. A powerful explosion was heard in Kharkiv. A gas pipeline was hit. Also, the oil terminal in Vasylkiv is burning as the result of an explosion. An ecology disaster may emerge

The pipeline at Kharkiv is an inter-connector between two of the main gas pipelines running west.

The video shows a big bright Hollywood explosion – ordnance(?), or placed explosives – followed by a smoulder. Not at all what you would expect from a breached high pressure gas pipeline attached to a major supply.

A cynic might think it could be a demonstration to the West – a shut in section deliberately blown up – just to make a point.

The loose questions:
• Who dunnit?
• What point is being made?

Block SWIFT, would you, eh – because this might happen to a pipeline you actually care about; or

Let us into EU/NATO toot sweet – because this might happen to a pipeline you actually care about.

Add to the Snake Island file.

C.L.
C.L.
February 27, 2022 12:16 pm
cohenite
February 27, 2022 12:16 pm

Trump at CPAC throws some crumbs to the press chickens. The guy is masterful; his bowel movements have more brains then the entire biden cabinet:

https://generaldispatch.whatfinger.com/president-donald-j-trump-speaks-with-press-at-cpac-2022-in-orlando/

C.L.
C.L.
February 27, 2022 12:18 pm

The “Ghost of Kiev” – LOL.

https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/1497660762260754438

And the “FU” Snake Island defenders. All of them surrendered. They’re fine.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
February 27, 2022 12:18 pm

Just been watching a bit of Fox. I am starting to think Putin’s Generals are being cautious now, by the sounds recon elements are pathfinding ways into Kiev and the Russians have given up on the airmobile/airborne forays for the time being. Any general in that part of the world would be well aware of difficulties attacking a city and especially one that straddles a river after Stalingrad.

Dot
Dot
February 27, 2022 12:19 pm

Sam Hyde.

KEK

This is too good.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 27, 2022 12:20 pm

I hope Zelensky and his ilk are actually giving the civilians he’s giving arms to uniforms also and some kind of command structure. Otherwise they will be unlawful combatants.

Unlawful combatants, with no protection of the Geneva Convention if captured, and liable to summary execution.

From memory, to claim the protection of the Geneva Convention, you have to carry weapons openly, and carry out operations in keeping with the laws and customs of war, be commanded by someone who agrees to be held accountable for your actions, and, if you don’t have an actual uniform, a fixed, distinctive sign, visible at a distance.

Winston Smith
February 27, 2022 12:21 pm

Salvatore:

While unvaccinated are lepers & not allowed by law into pubs/cafes/restaurants, the venue (pub in this case) is required to make a reasonable effort to check the vaccination status of persons entering.

Pub I’ve been going to for 14 years. The owners knows me and my vaccination status. I’m just really pissed off that she’s been put in this awkward position by a government that refuses to do its own dirty work.
And I’m easily recognised as the bloke who wears that Jewish Star and BioHazard symbol on his shirt.
It’s not much of a sacrifice but hopefully it has caused a few rethinks.

srr
srr
February 27, 2022 12:22 pm

Big_Nambas says:
February 27, 2022 at 10:12 am
This made a lot of sense to me when I read it.

“Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect is as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray’s case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward—reversing cause and effect. I call these the “wet streets cause rain” stories. Paper’s full of them.

In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story, and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about Palestine than the baloney you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know.”
– Michael Crichton (1942-2008)

He was also one of the early “cancelled”, for this book –

State of Fear is a 2004 techno-thriller novel by Michael Crichton, his fourteenth under his own name and twenty-fourth overall, in which eco-terrorists plot mass murder to publicize the danger of global warming. Despite being a work of fiction, the book contains many graphs and footnotes, two appendices, and a 20-page bibliography in support of Crichton’s beliefs about global warming.”

“In Appendix I, Crichton warns both sides of the global warming debate against the politicization of science. Here he provides two examples of the disastrous combination of pseudoscience and politics: the early 20th-century ideas of eugenics (which he directly cites as one of the theories that allowed for the Holocaust) and Lysenkoism.

This appendix is followed by a bibliography of 172 books and journal articles that Crichton presents “…to assist those readers who would like to review my thinking and arrive at their own conclusions.”
/wiki

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 27, 2022 12:24 pm

Not being a Troll hasn’t done me any harm so far, put it that way?

You mean like this?

The moron ‘s writings are beyond unhinged and simply trolling, but noted for the record.

I guess that is why you are on your 4th sock and counting. Fuckwit.

Bluey
Bluey
February 27, 2022 12:25 pm

Rockdoctorsays:
February 27, 2022 at 12:18 pm
Just been watching a bit of Fox. I am starting to think Putin’s Generals are being cautious now, by the sounds recon elements are pathfinding ways into Kiev and the Russians have given up on the airmobile/airborne forays for the time being. Any general in that part of the world would be well aware of difficulties attacking a city and especially one that straddles a river after Stalingrad.

The soviet armies took over 1000 cities in the second world war, and have some fairly recent practical experience in Chechnya. I honestly don’t know what to think about the prospect of taking the cities, but so far the Russian forces appear to be taking care to minimize civilian casualties. For example I’ve not seen any reports of thermobaric weapons being used.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
February 27, 2022 12:25 pm

Trump not letting 2020 election go, wants clear answers about it.
Says President has to be able to fire public servants to keep the Deep State in check.
Wants reparations from China for WuFlu.

Dang, that’s some big talk. Easy for him to say when it is other candidates who would have to carry out all these proposals.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
February 27, 2022 12:26 pm

Thread on the faking – wow:

Gold.

Joe Rogan’s descriptions of a man-boobed, fat-gutted Bill Gates handing out health advice. 10/10 would recommend.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
February 27, 2022 12:28 pm

Troof. RIP

Died with the last generation that could spell.

Razey
Razey
February 27, 2022 12:29 pm

C.L.says:
February 27, 2022 at 12:18 pm
The “Ghost of Kiev” – LOL.

https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/1497660762260754438

And the “FU” Snake Island defenders. All of them surrendered. They’re fine.

Some people are just unlucky?

How about this guy : https://www.ripleys.com/weird-news/unluckiest-man/

C.L.
C.L.
February 27, 2022 12:29 pm

I hope Zelensky and his ilk are actually giving the civilians he’s giving arms to uniforms also and some kind of command structure. Otherwise they will be unlawful combatants.

Great point.
Something about Zelensky doesn’t seem right to me. He’s bouncing around like Tony Barber.

rickw
rickw
February 27, 2022 12:31 pm

Likewise anyone dumb enough to go to Ukraine and fight for it.

I’m just going for the free AK-47’s, as soon as I get a couple I’m outa there!

Dot
Dot
February 27, 2022 12:32 pm

No joke

I reckon one of the aims of the COVID and WEF loonies was to attack amatuer sport, martial arts, fitness and outdoorsmanship – we cannot have a masculine, skillful, physically and mentally strong population with personal gumption and an ability to organise and work in teams.

So now we all look little more like Bill Gates.

cohenite
February 27, 2022 12:33 pm

The spectator gives me the shits; they publish shit like this about Trump:

In its demented ego-driven way, Trump’s view of the way the world works is intriguingly coherent. And painful though it may be for the many experts who have spent years denouncing him as a disastrous monster to admit, he could well be right: if he were in the White House, Putin probably wouldn’t be doing what he is doing.

He was right but it was a fluke from a ratbag; fucking arseholes. The only people who criticise Trump are pathetic little lefties and air fuckers.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 27, 2022 12:33 pm

The account of the First Fleet, by Rob Mundle – anyone found guilty of sodomy or murder, was to be marooned on the coast of New Zealand, for the Maoris to eat….

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 27, 2022 12:34 pm

Old School Conservativesays:
February 27, 2022 at 10:20 am
spell it KIEV .. like it has been for yonks

Just like the change from long term Mao Tse Tung to Mao Zedong.

The former was the Wade-Giles transliteration. Non-Chinese, and therefore unacceptable, IIRC, the later is PinYin, Chinese based and therefore the only acceptable transliteration.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
February 27, 2022 12:36 pm

Dot Johnson is right!

Jorge
Jorge
February 27, 2022 12:38 pm

dover0beach says:
February 27, 2022 at 9:48 am
Rabz, thanks for the Hitchens piece. Pitch perfect

The inconvenient Matthew Arnold ignored though in that opening salvo, Dover. Thought you might have picked that up.

rickw
rickw
February 27, 2022 12:38 pm

Honestly, does anyone for 1 moment belive a dam with 2mil ML of flood storage and at only 55% needed to be lowered at that time?

Have they forgotten that Wivenhoe is a flood mitigation dam?……again…..

miltonf
miltonf
February 27, 2022 12:39 pm

The spectator gives me the shits

the voice of the pommy establishment- some of the Aus version articles are good but not worth a subscription

custard
custard
February 27, 2022 12:40 pm

Trump speech just ended.

1hr 26mins

Excellent

rickw
rickw
February 27, 2022 12:41 pm

Trump speech just ended.

1hr 26mins

Excellent

Imagine Biden talking for that long….

miltonf
miltonf
February 27, 2022 12:43 pm

The spectator gives me the shits

actually some of the stuff in the Aus version is just wet lieboral propaganda iirc

Winston Smith
February 27, 2022 12:46 pm

Zatara:
Thanks for that article on LNG and the current supply position in the US and Europe.
It looks a lot better than I’d felt about Europe having to turn off factories etc.

bons
bons
February 27, 2022 12:47 pm

A question for those knowledgeable in these matters.
Why has the WEF been so successful in anglosphere countries? Especially in the colonies.
The exception being Argentina, but there are similarities.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 27, 2022 12:48 pm

Have they forgotten that Wivenhoe is a flood mitigation dam?……again…..

yeah, Labor Governments in Qld tend to suffer from Tempoirary Amnesia when the Dams rise.
How many times since 2006?
Rocky, about 5 times, no previous flood since 1973, Townsville a couple, no one could even remember the last flood there, Bundaberg a Couple.

Just on the Brisbane Australia Day Flood of 1974, Somerset Dam Gates were opened and coincided with a King Tide in the Brisbane River.
At that time, The Brisbane City Council operated Somerset Dam.
It was a Labor Council, Clem Jones resigned a year later.
Not suggesting there was anything untoward there.
Not at all.

miltonf
miltonf
February 27, 2022 12:48 pm

How does the western legacy meja have any more credibility than Prava or Izvestia in say 1975? One thing’s for sure, those two papers would not have been promoting puberty blockers for minors.

Eyrie
Eyrie
February 27, 2022 12:48 pm

Have they forgotten that Wivenhoe is a flood mitigation dam?……again…..

Trouble is they didn’t build the Wolfdene Dam (Rudd when Goss’s Chief of Staff – is there anything he can’t stuff up?) so Wivenhoe does double duty.

Roger
Roger
February 27, 2022 12:48 pm

The former was the Wade-Giles transliteration. Non-Chinese, and therefore unacceptable, IIRC, the later is PinYin, Chinese based and therefore the only acceptable transliteration.

Peking Duck, anyone?

Cassie of Sydney
February 27, 2022 12:49 pm

“actually some of the stuff in the Aus version is just wet lieboral propaganda iirc”

I never see that that which is why I subscribe. The Spectator Oz has the following writers and as far as I can tell they don’t follow any lieboral propaganda..

James Allen
Kerry Wakefield
David Flint
Alexandra Marshall
David Cohen
David Adler
Lyle Shelton
Daniel Wild
Gideon Rozner
Sherri Sufi
Bill Muehlenberg

and there are others.

In fact, the aforementioned names are actively hostile to the Lieboral line.

Eyrie
Eyrie
February 27, 2022 12:51 pm

It looks a lot better than I’d felt about Europe having to turn off factories etc.
The Euroweenies NEED to have to turn off everything. They might just get a clue about the Green madness.

Winston Smith
February 27, 2022 12:52 pm
Ed Case
Ed Case
February 27, 2022 12:53 pm

Why has the WEF been so successful in anglosphere countries? Especially in the colonies.

Diversity, also known as Divide & Conquer.

The exception being Argentina, but there are similarities.

Argentina isn’t diverse, there was black slavery there under Spanish Rule,
but there are very few descendants there today.

local oaf
February 27, 2022 12:57 pm

They pushed it as far as they thought they could and got away with it.

I believe they are winning.

+100

We consider ourselves more thoughtful and perceptive than most of the “sheep” but look how easily we are distracted from what’s been done to us in the last two years.
In the space of a few days we’re totally focussed on an unrelated event being brought to us by? … the MSM.

Pandemic? That’s so early February!

miltonf
miltonf
February 27, 2022 12:57 pm

yes that probably was a bit unfair of me Cassie in view of the list of names

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