2,758 thoughts on “Open Thread – Tues 1 March 2022”

  1. I’ll be gone soon, looks like the weather is clearing for a bit.
    I’m here when I’m bored, that is all.

    Struth goes full Grigory again:

    I tell a lotta lies, pal…


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  2. So how fucking bored must choo choo man be !!!
    Fuck me swingin’.
    Do you do anything comrade?
    You’re here 24/7.

    Says the stooge who could not let his nuffery go yesterday, and kept coming back to try and defend his own vomit.

    Got that link that proves your DeAtH CaMpS were being built on Day One of the Covid Crisis yet?

    ‘Announcements’ don’t count, remember?

    #Struth-AllMouth,NoTrousers


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  3. Unionised employment, what a fucking joke.

    Is it why you stopped driving trucks?

    Socialism sat you on your arse before it was fashionably for you to cry about it?


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  4. Anchor What says:
    March 4, 2022 at 6:29 am

    Thanks are due again to Melanie Phillips and Powerline for drawing attention to a report by a former State Department guy who spills the beans on what’s going on.
    It isn’t pretty.

    That’s total capitulation, it looks like Obama and Valerie Jarrett are still running US foreign policy.


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  5. Do you find that Youtbe has cut out the visuals – only the sound is left in their videos?

    Johanna – Just had a quick check of a couple of Hu vids: I get the visuals and the audio.

    However I use a VPN and Brave. The former stuffs up geoblocking and the latter eliminates YT ads. The VPN also gets around cute ISP censorship, which is still in place for BlazingCatFur last I looked. Amazing how ISPs seem to want to save the world from incorrect thought.


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  6. Poop attack perp told cops ‘s–t happens’ before being released without bail

    The sicko who allegedly smashed his own feces in a Bronx straphanger’s face joked with cops that “s–t happens” before sneering to a Bronx judge, “F–k you, bitch.”

    Frank Abrokwa, 37, was busted Monday at his homeless shelter in connection to the revolting Feb. 21 attack, according to cops and police sources.

    Upon arrest, he made light of the attack, quipping to cops, “S–t happens. Haha. This is a s–tty situation. Haha,” Bronx Assistant District Attorney Grace Phillips said during Abrokwa’s arraignment late Tuesday.

    Ultimately, Abrokwa was freed without bail — because the charges against him were not bail-eligible under the state’s bail reform laws, despite prosecutors’ request for him to be held on $15,000 bond, or $5,000 cash.

    Abrokwa has 22 prior unsealed arrests dating back to 1999, and dozens of sealed arrests, according to authorities and police sources.


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  7. That’s total capitulation, it looks like Obama and Valerie Jarrett are still running US foreign policy.

    I think you’re missing the word ‘craven’ at least once in your assessment there, Old Bloke.

    But apart from that, 110% agree.

    Now, we watch for the IDF to carry out a re-run of the Osirak raid…


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  8. Having a look at the Twitter stuff on the sidebar, how long do you think funding will be available for vaxx v no vaxx studies for The Science?


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  9. H B Bearsays:
    March 4, 2022 at 12:17 pm
    I only wear a blue singlet so no one thinks I’m a poofta pansy. So far it’s working.

    I think they’ll notice the no pants first.


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  10. Bruce of Newcastlesays:
    March 4, 2022 at 12:32 pm
    Do you find that Youtbe has cut out the visuals – only the sound is left in their videos?

    Johanna – Just had a quick check of a couple of Hu vids: I get the visuals and the audio.

    However I use a VPN and Brave. The former stuffs up geoblocking and the latter eliminates YT ads. The VPN also gets around cute ISP censorship, which is still in place for BlazingCatFur last I looked. Amazing how ISPs seem to want to save the world from incorrect thought.

    Yeah, just like that Rex cunt, who keeps posting bullshit as if its opinion is relevant and saving us from incorrect thought. LOL


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  11. Amazing how ISPs seem to want to save the world from incorrect thought.

    I did not know the Chinese were so offended by Mongolians.

    Talk about the CCP exploiting long-held cultural memories to push an agenda.

    As the Hu (and the Mongolian folk saying) declares, How Strange, How Strange…


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  12. Yeah, just like that Rex cunt, who keeps posting bullshit as if its opinion is relevant and saving us from incorrect thought. LOL

    Poor Glowie.

    Caught out again, eh?

    Tell you masters to be more subtle with the scripting next time.

    Or move to Japan. 🙂


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  13. For St. Ruth. Robert Craddock:

    Rod Marsh’s mother wanted him to become a concert pianist but he felt those famous fingers would be better suited elsewhere.

    Never afraid to go his own sweet way, Marsh decided, according to his recent autobiography, that being a concert pianist “could hardly have been less compatible with my growing passion for wicket-keeping. I wasn’t very interested in schoolwork either so it was cricket or bust for me.’’

    And off he went, despite the early piano lessons, on a journey which made him one of the most decorated exponents of the wicket-keeping craft, a one-time world record holder for most Test dismissals, the first keeper to score a Test century for Australia.

    Marsh’s death this at morning at 6am in an Adelaide Hospital following a heart attack last week has shattered the cricket world.

    A tearful Adam Gilchrist lauded Marsh’s contribution to the game.

    “It’s unbelievable,’’ Gilchrist said. “You feel it can’t be real. He was the reason I took up keeping and I just feel so sorry for his family who have lost a father and a husband. He was a beautiful man.

    Only this week Gilchrist changed his Twitter handle to include the front cover of Marsh on his book Gloves, Sweat and Tears.

    “I saw that book and that photo when I was 12 and it really inspired me. You see Rod’s fingers are taped in that photo. I ended up taping my fingers all the way through my career just like he did.’’

    Every cricketer is ultimately defined by his numbers but numbers alone never did justice to the swagger and soul Marsh injected into Australian cricket when the sizzling 70s swept away the stagnation of Test cricket’s slow-fused 1960s.

    There was mention of the underarm delivery earlier this morning. Watch the tape again, and you’ll see Marsh going down the pitch shaking his head at skipper Greg Chappell, and telling him not to do it.


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  14. II.

    Marsh played 96 Tests but no legacy will linger longer than his introduction of Australia’s team song.

    After talking to Ian Chappell about a verse sung by one of Chappell’s old friends, Marsh felt Australia needed a team song and was inspired by Henry Lawson’s 1887 poem Flag of The Southern Cross.

    Under the Southern Cross I Stand

    A sprig of wattle in my hand,

    A native of my native land,

    Australia you f—— beauty.

    Marsh sung it with gusto after Test wins then handed on the choirmasters job to Allan Border before it passed through David Boon, Ian Healy, Ricky Ponting, Justin Langer, Michael Hussey to the current recipient, Nathan Lyon, which pleased Marsh because “he hasn’t missed a Test since he got it.’’

    The brief, cheeky, emotive ditty, first sung in the Australian dressing room at the Gabba in 1974, is as much the embodiment of Australia cricket as the man who first sang it.



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  15. III.

    Marsh’s long time captain Greg Chappell always said he knew plenty of cricketers who would die for the baggy green cap but only two – Marsh and Ian Redpath – who would kill for it as well.

    Marsh’s demeanor, in a Test career which stretched from 1970-84, was like a signature of the ‘70s … the unbuttoned shirt at the top and occasionally sagging at the back, the big shades to go with the big hair, groovy flairs and even bigger nights out.

    It wasn’t one thing. It was the whole package, complemented by the gun-slinger’s stare and his compact yet somehow combative walk, that made him a player you could never forget.

    Marsh was a brilliant wicket keeper, at his best when taking fully extended diving catches against the quicks, but it was his fibre as a team man and fearless warrior than counted just as much.

    When Jeff Thomson exploded into Test cricket Marsh’s hands became instantly bruised and battered.

    On one occasion one of the Chappell brothers asked him mid-over what he thought of a Thomson thunderbolt. “It hurt like hell … but I loved it,’’ said Marsh, with Australia’s gain outstripping personal pain.

    Marsh will always be linked with his great mate Dennis Lillee with whom he surged through the ranks, taking a staggering 95 catches off Lillee’s bowling in Tests.

    “Caught Marsh bowled Lillee – Test cricket never got any better than that,’’ said Test quick Rodney Hogg.

    Marsh wrote of Lillee: “DK came from a very humble background. His dad was a truck driver, just like mine and we were both brought up out of the city – DK in Jarradale and me in Armadale, two towns 20 kilometres apart. I think he has been the most influential cricketer of the past 50 years, the best player, coach and administrator.’’



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  16. IV and final:

    Marsh and Lillee adored each other but also took great delight in winding each other up. Lillee once noted to Marsh that in team photos Marsh was actually taller from the waist up than the lofty Max Walker but had much shorter legs.

    Once over a beer, Lillee said “if you could run on your arms and bowl with your legs no-one would bowl faster than you.’’

    Marsh knew Lillee so well that he claimed he know what he was going to bowl before even speaking to him. It was all in the speed and style of his run-up.

    The two of them landed in hot water for having a few quid on 500-1 on England to win a Test at Headingley in 1981 but it was done out of a sense of playfulness.

    Marsh set such a high standard that Australia tried six keepers in five years in the years after he retired searching for someone like him before settling on Ian Healy who held the post for a decade.

    Marsh was an early coach of the Australian Cricket Academy in Adelaide and guided the likes of Ricky Ponting, Glenn McGrath and Brett Lee.

    He once famously said of a 16-year-old Ponting “he will be a once in a generation player’’ and time proved him correct.

    He later look over England’s academy and became an England selector, playing a key role in bringing down Australia on the iconic 2005 Ashes tour following his personal push for the exceptional Kevin Pietersen who Marsh knew was much better than the cavalier white ball warrior he was being portrayed as.

    Some were surprised that such a patriotic Australia could join England but, as Marsh pointed out, “it’s never easy to switch allegiances but I have always thought that better cricket and more competition benefits the game overall and I feel that is the first loyalty of everyone who loves cricket.’’

    Marsh owns parts of this country’s psyche. The good parts.

    RIP, Iron Gloves.


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  17. Amazing how ISPs seem to want to save the world from incorrect thought.

    I did not know the Chinese were so offended by Mongolians.

    Rex – Actually Singaporeans are saving me from naughty Canadian thoughtcrime (BCF linked the Unzud mosque vid). I don’t know what is causing Johanna to not see Mongolian rock throat singers. As for YT ads I sort of think I should let them through, if that helps pay the artist, but on other hand I detest Goolag.


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  18. Teh Australian reports A Current Affair has been caught up in litigation over Oscar the cavoodle. The Beetrooter was unavailable for comment.


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  19. And the Chappels are raving lefties.
    I’m going to make this statement, or ask the question.
    No one wants to kow, and no one will ask.
    And I’ll be pilloried for it.
    Did he have previous heart issues, and had he taken the jab?


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  20. I don’t know what is causing Johanna to not see Mongolian rock throat singers

    Me either- DDG is quite happy to do the videos on my phone.

    Technology is strange.


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  21. Marsh wrote of Lillee: “DK came from a very humble background. His dad was a truck driver, just like mine and we were both brought up out of the city – DK in Jarradale and me in Armadale, two towns 20 kilometres apart. I think he has been the most influential cricketer of the past 50 years, the best player, coach and administrator.’’

    Ruh roh.


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  22. Did Palmer buy Hitler’s car or not?

    If not we know that the Liberals and Labor are both using their position in the government and their little mates in the meeeeedia, to completely fabricate fake news to destroy their political enemy in the lead up to the election.
    First the complete fabrication he had covid last week.
    Second that he’s “buying hitlers car from a Russian billionaire” – which is how it was put to me by a complete covid karen NPC retard today.


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  23. Getting back to those tyres on the stalled convoy of Russian military vehicles…did someone buy Chinese copies of the Michelins ordered and pocket the difference?

    It’s the way they roll in Russia. Putin is alleged to have made his first millions by stiffing the people of St. Petersburg out of much needed food supplies in the early ’90s. All they got was two tankers of cooking oil.


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  24. He was always a heavy set bloke and they liked to party.
    We’ll never know, and that’s how it goes.

    Why are folk finding this demise strange? .. he was 74 and obese .. lotza folk throw in the towel by 74 ..
    nothing unusual .. FFS!
    I’m 74, a sight fitter than Rod Marsh (going off pix) yet my 1st thought on waking of a morning is, “Still here” … LOL!


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  25. Getting back to those tyres on the stalled convoy of Russian military vehicles…did someone buy Chinese copies of the Michelins ordered and pocket the difference?

    Not inconceivable. The thought that the Russians might lack the capacity to make that sort of gear in-house is a surprise, but more likely in a recent era of tight budgets, limited general funding, efforts to modernise equipment and professionalise from a conscript to an all-volunteer military, any opportunity to save buck here and there by contracting out would have been welcomed.

    Military-Industrial Complexes gonna Military-Industrial Complex, after all.

    And lack of use does nasty things to any mechanical gear.

    Aa far as the impending rasputitsa goes, one hopes the Russians have a contingency plan available for 2-3 weeks’ time when the thaw is complete, and all their offroad movements and advances to contact on the eastern side of the Dneipr are conducted in seas of mud.

    Tyres, no tyres or tracks, that stuff is evil. As the last lot of folks to invade the place found out…


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  26. Speaking of the great DK…he’s responsible for one of the funnier scorecard entries:

    ‘Lillee caught Willey bowled Dilley.’

    1978-79 Ashes.


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  27. I did not know the Chinese were so offended by Mongolians.

    They have some… history.

    I cant find the link now, but there is on battle a larger Chinese army lost to the Mongols where after their surrender the Chinese blokes were raped before being sent back home.

    Now that would really, really not be great for national pride.


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  28. Getting back to those tyres on the stalled convoy of Russian military vehicles…did someone buy Chinese copies of the Michelins ordered and pocket the difference?

    Based on the job the Chinese did with the Perth Childrens Hospital I think the WA government might go back dealing with the ghost of Len Buckeridge and BCG.


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  29. Unsure if it true, but apparently one commentator at a cricket test between England and the West Indies made the following description:

    “The bowler’s Holding…
    The Batsman’s Willey..”


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  30. shatterzzz, just now:

    I’m 74, a sight fitter than Rod Marsh

    Of course you are. Marsh is dead.

    Clive Palmer is also currently fitter than Rod Marsh.


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  31. I’m old enough to remember when the Australian government didn’t care about the history of antiquities that were being imported, regardless of how dark & how muddy their chain of ownership was.


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  32. Be watching the enemies of Australia with the digital bill and the restricting cash bill.
    It’s the social credit scheme of the WEF, and Justin Trudeau is sneeking it in now in Canada under cover of Ukraine.


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  33. dopeysays:
    March 4, 2022 at 1:25 pm
    ABC. Apparently the fire has re-located to a training facility at the nuclear plant.

    Telegram channel using web cam near there reckons there was a bit of a shooting match in the carpark well away from the plant. Admin building on fire, and that’s about it. Russians supposedly trying to negotiate a similar deal to Chernobyl.

    Meanwhile western media claims we’re all going to die…


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  34. Biden Sending Secret Weapon, Kamala Harris, back to Europe to Solve Ukraine Crisis

    “A presidential visit is a heavier logistical lift,” the source said. “The vice president has a smaller footprint and is historically more nimble.”

    That’s one way of putting it.


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  35. It’s the social credit scheme of the WEF, and Justin Trudeau is sneeking it in now in Canada under cover of Ukraine.

    That’s going to be an impressive feat to sneak a Social Credit System for Canada under Ukraine.

    The two nations are separated by some 3,926 nautical miles of ocean and Continental European landmass, after all. And relatively few usable tunnels if you go by the most direct route (phrasing)…

    Be watching the enemies of Australia with the digital bill and the restricting cash bill.

    But you just said it was a Canadian system being snuck under Ukraine without its consent?

    I’m not sure now who has the bigger kink- Justin Trudeau or you?

    Not that I’m kink-shaming or anything…


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  36. “The vice president has a smaller footprint and is historically more nimble.”

    That’s one way of putting it.

    I went Visual, Roger.

    You’re paying for my brain bleach!


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  37. Two Victorian masters of the universe declared covid is over in a meeting today.

    They were so excited that they can go see each other in person and can even shake hands now.

    Outsiders are just happy they’re happy.


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  38. I was thinking more about what it tells us about old Joe, Rex.

    They daren’t risk him on any non-essential travel.

    Attending the G7 in Europe last year must have been a nightmare for his handlers.


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  39. It’s Remarkablesays:
    March 4, 2022 at 1:27 pm
    Unsure if it true, but apparently one commentator at a cricket test between England and the West Indies made the following description:

    “The bowler’s Holding…
    The Batsman’s Willey..”

    Yes it is. Ian Botham was commentating a Windies / England match with Michael Holding and after the lunch break said something along the lines of, “At the risk of repeating history.” “The commentators Holding, the Umpire’s Willey.” Peter Willey now being an umpire.


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  40. I was thinking more about what it tells us about old Joe, Rex.

    They daren’t risk him on any non-essential travel.

    Attending the G7 in Europe last year must have been a nightmare for his handlers.

    I am thinking of an entourage of hyper-padded packing cases, marked ‘FRAGILE’ and ‘THIS WAY UP.’

    I suspect that Joe would not be the easiest to bubble-wrap and tape for transit, either… 🙂


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  41. Biden Sending Secret Weapon, Kamala Harris, back to Europe to Solve Ukraine Crisis

    Are rhey freaking kidding? That the US government would send someone with no record of success in anything in politics to stop what could spiral into world war III tells you everything you need to know about the dangerous Biden clownshow. Tucker Carlson Tonight (starts at 2m45ss).


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  42. And look at Cricket these days.
    FMD it’s embarrassing when you think about the past and actual men playing sport.

    THE PAST IS A FOREIGN COUNTRY: THEY DO THINGS DIFFERENTLY THERE.


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  43. Usual preamble…Putin is a monster etc.

    Tap the brakes on this Ukraine adventure.
    Jimmy Dore & Max Blumenthal (from the GrayZone).
    I had no idea how intertwined the Nazi’s are with the Ukraine state/army.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfaAyiP8Wuc

    Tap the brakes.
    Please don’t use my taxpayer dollars to send 70mill worth of weapons to these guys.


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  44. News Flash.
    Lygon St.
    No-one who is anyone in Melbourne goes anywhere near it.
    It is used excusively for ripping off people who come down from Queensland looking for wog tucker kulcha.


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  45. Ukraine hottie.

    That’s a new pair of pants you owe me, Zycon.

    My insurance does not cover fire damage… 🙂

    #MoreBromideInTheTea,Please


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  46. H B Bearsays:
    March 4, 2022 at 1:00 pm
    Marsh wrote of Lillee: “DK came from a very humble background. His dad was a truck driver, just like mine and we were both brought up out of the city – DK in Jarradale and me in Armadale, two towns 20 kilometres apart. I think he has been the most influential cricketer of the past 50 years, the best player, coach and administrator.’’

    Ruh roh.

    And Captain of WA Sheffield Shield team winning many games that lesser mortals would have played for a draw.


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  47. Putin is a monster etc.

    Is he, though? I don’t love or hero-worship the guy, but I wish we had a leader who stands for Australian interests in the way Putin stands for Russian interests.


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  48. In what way is Russia going into Ukraine different from the US going into Iraq in 2003?
    Exactly! I knew the Ukes were up to no good that time they invaded neighbour Poland and looked like they might continue and sweep through to Hungary and then Austria. No knowing where that might have ended if it wasn’t for Russia stopping them with “Special Operation #1”.
    Then when their leader boasted about his progress towards getting tactical nuclear weapons, and later took a whole plan load of people hostage, we knew he was a bad egg.
    Sanctions didn’t seem to work, and there was a lot of street theatre involving supposed funerals of children down the main street of Kiev, with the leader blaming the west for depriving them of medicines, even though he was making a mint off sending oil out in trucks through Moldavia. So many palaces were built on vast allotments using that cash flow, and it was later suspected they might be hiding places, front for more nefarious activities.
    There were no proper elections, he was destined to be dictator for life, and always had a paid cheer-squad around for the cameras. Of course we were never sure it was him, as he had some body/face doubles. When war threatened he sent his entire air force to Bellarus.
    The internationally sanctified agents who were sent in to search for WMD were kept hopping around in a suspicious fashion. One of the inspectors (an Australian) complained bitterly about this, saying it indicated something very fishy or fissiony was going on. He later recanted completely, as did another one, an American.
    Yes, it’s all so similar.


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  49. Russian Oligarch Igor Sechin’s Yacht Is Seized in France as It Prepares to Depart
    Dow Jones
    9:07AM March 4, 2022

    Russia’s richest men are on the run amid a global dragnet Western governments have cast to ensnare their yachts, villas, jets and bank accounts.

    In recent days, French authorities have detained a handful of ships subject to new sanctions, including a 280-foot yacht, the Amore Vero, “True Love” in Italian.

    They say it is owned by Igor Sechin, the sanctioned chief executive of Russian oil producer Rosneft and close ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin. They swooped in during the middle of the night as the vessel was making what they described as preparations to leave port in a hurry.

    Mikhail Fridman, a former Russian banker who wound up on the European Union’s sanctions list, was locked out this week of the private-equity fund he co-founded. Luxembourg-based LetterOne Holdings SA has frozen his stake and is holding back dividends and prohibiting him from contacting anyone at the fund. Alexey Mordashov, the largest shareholder of German-based tourism group TUI AG, and one of Russia’s wealthiest people, resigned from its supervisory board after being put on the EU’s list of sanctioned individuals.

    The sanctions on individuals are just one part of a multifront effort to hit Moscow economically after Mr. Putin’s invasion of Ukraine. Western capitals have sanctioned banks and companies, and targeted Russia’s central bank.

    The US and UK on Thursday unveiled still more sanctions and travel restrictions on a range of Russian elites. As part of the American round, the U.S. will impose visa restrictions on 19 Russian oligarchs and 47 of their family members and close associates. The U.K. sanctioned two more oligarchs including the former Russian deputy prime minister.

    After years of lavish living in playgrounds for the rich across Europe, the U.S. and elsewhere, a rarefied group of Russian businesspeople, officials, Kremlin-friendly journalists and longtime friends of Mr. Putin are in the crosshairs of Western authorities like never before. The Justice Department this week joined other countries in standing up special task forces to hunt down assets.

    “We are joining with our European allies to find and seize your yachts, your luxury apartments, your private jets,” President Biden said during his State of the Union speech earlier this week, referring to the new entity, called Task Force KleptoCapture. “We are coming for your ill-begotten gains.” The detaining of assets of Russia’s ultra-wealthy and powerful is unlikely to deter Mr. Putin, whose military push in Ukraine is intensifying, experts in Russia’s economy and wealthy businessmen said. Some of the oligarchs targeted by sanctions are believed to have little influence over Mr. Putin’s thinking or actions.

    But hunting down their assets, and yachts in particular, has a major symbolic effect and deprives them of a highly valued lifestyle. “It is very effective — they get very annoyed by these things,” said Anders Aslund, a senior fellow at the Stockholm Free World Forum and an economist who has advised the governments of Russia and Ukraine. Yachts are symbols of power for Russian businessmen, he said.

    Vladimir Soloviev, a presenter on Russian state television, who appeared on the EU’s sanctions list over the weekend, railed at EU authorities for including him on the list and jeopardizing two villas he owns on Italy’s Lake Como, near actor George Clooney’s residence.



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  50. Oh come onsays:
    March 4, 2022 at 2:45 pm
    Putin is a monster etc.

    Is he, though? I don’t love or hero-worship the guy, but I wish we had a leader who stands for Australian interests in the way Putin stands for Russian interests.

    Putin stands for Putin’s interests.


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  51. I’d say Putin stands up for Russia’s interests more any of the rubbish WEF-UN-EU-Multinational agents that pose as western ‘leaders’.

    Still getting up to speed on the last ten years in Eastern Europe, but it sounds like the US has been goading Putin since 2014.


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  52. Zach Rolfe trial: Cop denies ‘making up’ testimony that Kumanjayi Walker went for his gun

    Jason Walls
    Chief court reporter
    11 minutes ago March 4, 2022

    ZACH Rolfe has denied having “made up” his testimony that Kumanjayi Walker went for his gun during a life and death struggle in Yuendumu in 2019.

    Rolfe took the stand in his Supreme Court murder trial for the third day on Friday after pleading not guilty to all charges stemming from the fatal shooting on November 9.

    In cross examining him, Crown prosecutor, Philip Strickland SC, said it was “one of the most serious things that can happen to a police officer in a combat situation” but Rolfe said that was not the case on the day in question.

    “Comparatively in this situation it was one of the least serious things that happened,” he said, noting his testimony that the officers were being attacked with an edged weapon at the time.

    Rolfe agreed that he had been trained to shout “he’s going for my gun” if that ever happened but only “if practical”.

    “You never even shouted the word gun, did you?” Mr Strickland asked.

    “And you didn’t shout the word gun because Walker’s hand was never on your gun, was it?”

    “Incorrect,” Rolfe replied.

    “It would take more time for me to say ‘he’s grabbing my Glock’ than to move my hips backwards and knock his hand off my Glock.”

    Rolfe admitted he had not told any of his fellow officers about Mr Walker trying to grab his gun and nor could it be seen on body worn camera footage of the incident.

    Rolfe was also grilled about the words he is heard saying on the footage in the moments after firing the fatal shots.

    “You said ‘It’s all good, he was stabbing me, he was stabbing you’ to justify what you had just done, didn’t you, because you knew you had gone too far?” Mr Strickland said.

    “You knew you had been too gung ho, and you knew, didn’t you, that the shooting had been captured on your own body worn video, and you felt you needed to justify what you had just done?”

    Rolfe replied “Incorrect”.

    When asked why he had used the words “It’s all good”, he said he was “referring to the situation”.

    “A violent offender had just been trying to murder two police officers and he no longer was,” he explained.

    Mr Strickland also asked Rolfe about his earlier testimony that he had responded to then constable Adam Eberl’s question, “Did you … ?”, to explain to him what had happened.

    “You say you had the presence of mind to consider whether Eberl was suffering from symptoms of tunnel vision and auditory exclusion,” he said.

    “You’re making that up too aren’t you?”

    “No, I’m not,” Rolfe replied.

    The trial continues on Tuesday when defence barrister, David Edwardson QC, told jurors he expects to call his final expert witness.



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  53. “Still here”

    That old line of getting the paper in the morning to read the obituaries, if you’re not in them it is worth getting dressed.


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  54. Since I came out of hospital, as my knees have improved, I’ve gone on small walks. Today, given that there’s been a break after weeks of non-stop rain, I decided to walk to Surry Hills. Along the way I couldn’t help but notice that all the retail shops have LGBTQI rainbow flags prominently displayed in their windows…even Woolworths was decorated in LGBTQI rainbow flags and the trite “Happy Mardi Gras” banners. God forbid if you didn’t do this or no doubt you would be targeted for censure, condemnation and cancellation and then I remembered that tomorrow night is Mardi Gras. Apparently there’s no parade (amen) but there’ll be a big party at the Sydney Cricket Ground. When I got to Surry Hills the place was full of clusters of gay men…more so than usual. I thought to myself, I really do live in Gayville!

    Anyway the walk exhausted me….my first long walk in months.


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  55. Local Oaf:

    It’s hard not to write and even think, in the same patterns that others have used so often for so long. As you say, the only guilty ones are whichever individuals chose to commit such crimes. Their race or nationality are irrelevant.

    Excellent summation, Local Oaf.
    Guilt belongs to the individual who commits the crime. Not their children or their parents, not their neighbours or their companions. Not even their countrymen or race.


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  56. Just before I left on my long walk, I looked at the Oz front page and the headlines screamed screeched “Ukrainian nuclear power plant was on fire”

    Now back after my walk, I look at the Oz front page and the headline is “Ukrainian authorities have said the safety of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant was now secured, after a fire broke out Friday when the station was shelled by Russian forces.”

    Apparently, after shelling, a fire started however the bad evil Russians allowed firefighters into the plant, and that the nuclear safety of the plant was now guaranteed.


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  57. Zach Rolfe trial: Cop denies ‘making up’ testimony that Kumanjayi Walker went for his gun

    In my (extensive) cctv files are a number of videos, from all angles, of people going for a police officer’s gun.
    It is more common than many may at first realise.

    It is more common than police officers realise.
    A number of times they’ve been totally unawares until I’ve told ’em the next day that cctv of one of last night’s arrests shows the arrestee groping for a constable’s sidearm.

    I believe Rolfe.

    Somewhat shocking to the individual coppers is that most of the video of people going for a cop’s gun are of someone the cops are merely talking to as they pass by.
    When confronted with the unimpeachable video evidence that in a non-adversarial conversation, someone was surreptitiously going for their gun, most Constables enter a state of obtuse denial.


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  58. Lygon St.
    No-one who is anyone in Melbourne goes anywhere near it.
    It is used excusively for ripping off people who come down from Queensland looking for wog tucker kulcha.

    You’re a Geelong “cats” bogan, Frank.
    The old stone washed stove pipe moccassin class from the land of the Blue and white scarves.
    Muscle shirts only for the two warm days a year and the packet of Winnie reds up the sleeve.
    You’re lucky a man of my breeding will stoop to correspond with you.
    “Th” is not promounced “F,” although like most from Geelong, if you haven’t got all your front teeth, we’ll let you off.
    On the other hand, myself having lived in Melbourne and guided many tours around Melbourne in my life note I know it better than most. Especially the ones living there recently.
    Lygon street was actually Jewish before da wogs moved in, interestingly enough.

    But there’s no one in Melbourne anyway, it seems, so even a bogan from Geelong can be right sometime…they’re all up here.


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  59. It’s the social credit scheme of the WEF, and Justin Trudeau is sneeking it in now in Canada under cover of Ukraine

    Comet pizza. No pineapple, no anchovies.


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  60. “Putin stands for Putin’s interests.”

    Fact check true…..but that also applies to politicians in the West…perhaps more so.


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  61. Putin stands for Putin’s interests.

    Even if you’re right, in my estimation he still seems to be doing a pretty decent job of standing for Russia’s interests. Again, it would be nice if an Australian leader would stand for Australia’s interests. Even if this comes in the form of a serendipitous by-product of them standing for their own interests.


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  62. Now we know covid is not serious but some diseases are.

    So I am letting you know what is out there people that you should be wary of.

    Japanese encephalitis.
    As you know, I rushed down to Adelaide recently because my father was the first to catch it as it turns out and we nearly lost him.
    Attacks the brain.
    Lucky his was barely used.
    4 weeks later he still isn’t good.
    The woman who got it next died.
    They are doing a story on it on the MSM in Adelaide tonight.
    You don’t want to get that.
    A bit of mozzie repellent guys.

    For those in SA area, they are catching it in the riverland, around Barmera and through Berri and Renmark.
    Now turning up in NSW and flood zones.


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  63. Apparently there’s no parade (amen) but there’ll be a big party at the Sydney Cricket Ground.

    Parade means lack of social distancing. If the idea is to avoid superspreader events, the after party was historically like something from the last days of the Roman empire. No social distancing plus fluids.


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  64. Super yacht charter on the Med this winter should be a bit cheaper with a few more oligarchs yachts seized. Don’t stuff this up SloMo.


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  65. Still getting up to speed on the last ten years in Eastern Europe, but it sounds like the US has been goading Putin since 2014.

    In fairness to the Little (‘Anonymous’) Green Men who suddenly appeared in the Crimea and annexed it with barely a shot being fired about the same time, Vlad Bae has been giving easily as good as he got.

    Up to and including 9K37 ‘Beech’ (SA-11 ‘Grizzly’) tracked SAM launchers from his own military’s 53rd Anti-Aircraft Missile Brigade for his Donbassian proxy militias in 2017. Now, this was fine with everybody so long as it shot down Ukrainian AF Sukhois, Tupolevs and Ilyushins. Not so much when you fail to correctly identify your target first, as as a wise Cat said yesterday, “The Sped Strela Does Not Return…”


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  66. Not to mention finding a berth and getting a table.

    What Ukraine has shown is how much dirty money is sloshing around London and Europe generally.


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  67. What Ukraine has shown is how much dirty money is sloshing around London and Europe generally.

    Yes. Which was perfectly OK until the little people got jack of it.

    Like right now… 🙂


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  68. Oh come onsays:
    March 4, 2022 at 3:22 pm
    Putin stands for Putin’s interests.

    Even if you’re right, in my estimation he still seems to be doing a pretty decent job of standing for Russia’s interests. Again, it would be nice if an Australian leader would stand for Australia’s interests. Even if this comes in the form of a serendipitous by-product of them standing for their own interests.

    Putin is leader for life which allows his narcissism free reign. Western leaders are in a completely different position. Australian leaders do stand for Australia’s interests. They may not stand for your interests but your interests are not necessarily the nation’s interests. Our leaders do not kill opponents, do not jail opponents, are not worth billions while their country crumbles.

    The attempts to equate Putin’s leadership with the leadership of Western leaders is a remarkable cynicism that reminds me of the way so many on the Left speak about the West.


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  69. feelthebern says: March 4, 2022 at 5:10 am

    I’m old enough to remember when the French were testing nukes in the Pacific 20 odd years ago, protesters harassed the owners & patrons of the Delifrance franchises.
    Not much has changed.

    Was totally unaware of the whole ‘outrage’ due to being overseas.
    Wish I’d been in Oz for the opportunity to lurk near a Delifrance in the hopes of some unwashed having a crack at me. (Not that in those days I even knew places like Delifrance existed)

    Interestingly, Canada – where I’d been didn’t even have the French tests on the radar, despite being the same distance from the test site (by my thumb on a desk globe)
    USA, where I’d spent some of the time, is even closer & there’d not been a public peep.

    Upon return to Oz, it was puzzling what the big deal was, & people seemed unable to process that despite the scale of public debate, 100deg celsius temperature of outrage at French testing was pretty much confined to Australia & Australia only.


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  70. You’re lucky a man of my breeding will stoop to correspond with you.

    Being suddenly met with racing air compressors, sudden failures of compression-braking discipline and a mad scramble for the truckstop exits whenever the young Struth pulled in for a meal and a fuel stop has never really left him.

    Instead of taking a good, hard look at himself and his actions, he decided it was everyone else’s fault he was an unlikable person.

    And he’s never really looked back since. Probably just as well…


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  71. Our leaders do not kill opponents, do not jail opponents, are not worth billions while their country crumbles.

    Bill Leak.
    Pauline Hanson.
    Let’s talk millions.
    Yeah, Australia is booming.


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  72. Please don’t use my taxpayer dollars to send 70mill worth of weapons to these guys.

    What…you think you get a say?

    They may be Nazis, but they’re our Nazis!


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  73. Bruce O’Newk:

    Maybe the majors should develop a few more coal mines, with expedited help from Scotty.

    Maybe we could pay down our debt, too.
    Or cut taxes to let the wukkas keep a bit more of their hard earned.
    Or get our gold reserves up a bit.
    Or buy a few subs from the US/GB.
    Or build a network of mini nuclear power stations to get the aluminium smelters going again.
    But it won’t happen.
    BECAUSE WE ARE RUN BY FUCKWITS WHO NEVER MISS AN OPPORTUNITY TO MISS AN OPPORTUNITY.


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  74. Roger says: March 4, 2022 at 9:57 am

    I think we’re past the point of no return here, but…
    If you wanted to make Russia even more anti-Western and pro-China you’d do exactly what Western governments and corporates are doing now.

    Putin would be feeling like Brer Rabbit getting thrown into the Briar patch, except without having to even ask.

    Useful dickheads in the west forcing Russians and their money to remain in Russia.
    They’re building his “Potato soup curtain” for him at their own expense.

    Putin must spend half of each day pinching himself over how stupid western leaders are.


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  75. BECAUSE WE ARE RUN BY FUCKWITS WHO NEVER MISS AN OPPORTUNITY TO MISS AN OPPORTUNITY.

    the end stage of civilisation is characterised by a exponential bloating of the bureaucracy as it devours what remains of the productive sector.


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  76. Our leaders do not kill opponents, do not jail opponents, are not worth billions while their country crumbles.

    absolute garbage- how many did antifa, the sharp of of the us establishment, kill? how many have the clintons had killed?

    have the jan6 people in dc received fair trial yet?

    worth billions while their country crumbles– the democatic party luminaries are- they can even inside trade


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  77. Struthsays:

    March 4, 2022 at 1:30 pm

    Be watching the enemies of Australia with the digital bill and the restricting cash bill.
    It’s the social credit scheme of the WEF, and Justin Trudeau is sneeking it in now in Canada under cover of Ukraine.

    Wait!
    What?
    Isn’t Dan Andrews the portal to introduce it to Australia.
    Not the Federal Faulty Cash Restrictions Any Day Now Bill.
    Now it’s coming from Canada?

    By the way, it is ‘sneaking’, not ‘sneeking’, you barely literate buffoon.


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  78. Putin is leader for life

    If you start off that wrong, I stop reading. Your basic premise is so flawed that nothing you have derived from this is worth considering.


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  79. What a prosaic age we live in:

    Sun Tzu’s “golden bridge” has become a freeway “off ramp”, as in “Macron is trying to provide Putin with an off ramp out of this conflict”.

    Anyway, it’s good to see Micron making himself useful for a change.


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  80. Upon return to Oz, it was puzzling what the big deal was, & people seemed unable to process that despite the scale of public debate, 100deg celsius temperature of outrage at French testing was pretty much confined to Australia & Australia only.

    That little country to the right might have something to say about that. Ever heard of the Rainbow Warrior, a boat not a qwerty activist.


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  81. Apparently, after shelling, a fire started however the bad evil Russians allowed firefighters into the plant, and that the nuclear safety of the plant was now guaranteed.

    The first casualty of war is truth. Etc, etc, etc.

    That reality hasn’t changed since newspapers were invented 400 years ago. The difference now is that information on the internet is controlled by the anti-civilisationists who invented social media who hate the human race, so the percentalge of bullshit being published in war time is nearer 100% than 50%.

    Because Putin is a corrupt, evil piece of shit, people are naturally inclined to fear the worst about why his army is attacking Europe’s biggest nuclear plant. But it’s safe to say none of those reasons are good.


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  82. Sancho Panzer would seem to believe there is no harm in a cash restrictions law.
    Free country, allowed to air his opinion, etc.


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  83. For the kind person who put up the link to ‘An Officer and a Spy’ – Merci.
    It is certainly one of the better retellings of the tragedy.


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  84. The attempts to equate Putin’s leadership with the leadership of Western leaders is a remarkable cynicism that reminds me of the way so many on the Left speak about the West.

    +1

    The whole side-picking thing is the manifestation of a vindictive desire to see the western oligarchs who screwed us, somehow be made to suffer because they were embarrassed and militarily defeated by a different set of oligarchs.

    And the Ukrainians (no matter which capital or ethnic group they cleave to) are okay sacrifices to achieve this.

    Like it or not, the West is all we Cats will ever have (certain Glowies’ declared intentions to move to Japan notwithstanding). Shitting on it like the Left does and wiehing its demise because the Left has made it shitty to be in over the last 20 years, won’t improve things.


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  85. What Ukraine has shown is how much dirty money is sloshing around London and Europe generally.

    We got a bit of a look during the Crown Royal Commission. Arrive with a few hundred thousand for a weekend of gambling, whoring and drinking. All good fun till your man loses his seat at the CCP table and a dozen of your employees are detained across China.


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  86. It would be worth giving every PM for the last 50 years if they left the country in better condition than they found it. Instead Australia, you’re standing in it.


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  87. EvilElvissays:
    March 4, 2022 at 3:42 pm
    Our leaders do not kill opponents, do not jail opponents, are not worth billions while their country crumbles.

    Bill Leak.
    Pauline Hanson.
    Let’s talk millions.
    Yeah, Australia is booming.

    Pauline Hanson. That’s all you’ve got and it doesn’t compare to polonium poisoning in foreign countries and killing journalists in the home country. Economically Australia is much better than Russia and most other countries. Land values at record levels, unemployment at very low levels(not that I believe those figures but still low given present conditions), making a motza selling resources and food, an enviable standard of living.

    Please don’t give me one of those predictions how everything will eventually go to hell. For many years every day on this forum someone has been proclaiming the sky is falling. So many pessimists here it is wonder the membership isn’t disappearing through suicide.

    You want equivalence and tell me which journalists have been poisoned. How does the GDP of Russia compare to Australia? Putin’s wealth remains a mystery as does how he got it but most analysts put in the billions. The man is corrupt beyond measure. Care to explain how Putin’s son in law became so wealthy after marriage? Just a coincidence I suppose.


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  88. Re the question (waaaay upthread) about Clive buying Adolf Hitler’s car:

    Clive stated on Twitter that he has not purchased the car.
    An absolute statement of fact, by the principal in the (non) deal.
    The reply thread is chockers with lefties explaining to him – like he’s a special needs child – that he has in fact bought Hitler’s car.
    Not a skerrick of supporting evidence, just dickhead lefties saying so.

    These people vote.


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  89. Thanks for the cricket ‘antidotes’ KD.
    The question is, did Rod Marsh die of a heart attack?
    Or did Bill Lawry declare on him early again?


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  90. bonssays:
    March 4, 2022 at 3:53 pm
    For the kind person who put up the link to ‘An Officer and a Spy’ – Merci.
    It is certainly one of the better retellings of the tragedy.

    Put it back. I only put it up for Cassie. But seriously it is very good. I particularly liked the Renoir style of picnic at the beginning to get the feely of the time that most people can identify with.


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  91. In this case, the corporate media does have some cover re the nuclear plant “being on fire”.
    It was Zelensky who was saying it.
    Seriously, he is Karzai 2.0


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  92. Nothing childish about Lindsay Graham, bern. He’s a self-enriching cockroach as corrupt as anything in the Washington swamp, including the Biden and Pelosi families.


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  93. To Mr Frank Thring.

    I find you may have a problem with the ability to work out who said what.
    You have had this problem for some time.
    We have told you that a notafan approach of twisting what is actually said, only serves to lower your standing amongst those that wish to give you a lift up, to help you unwrap the blue and white scarf of scoffing froo missing teef.
    So in wording you may understand, pullya fuckin’ head in.
    Tis no good correcting other’s spelling when you should be working on your own reading and comprehension skills.


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  94. GrayRanga. Yep, the whole belle epoch feel of the movie was completely absorbing. The wardrobe folks had fun.
    I promise that I only peeked at the dirty bits, and it is now back on the shelf.


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  95. Like it or not, the West is all we Cats will ever have (certain Glowies’ declared intentions to move to Japan notwithstanding). Shitting on it like the Left does and wiehing its demise because the Left has made it shitty to be in over the last 20 years, won’t improve things.

    I’d say the US is pretty much a lost cause now- it’s been so white anted. Hope I’m wrong but that’s how I see it. I’d say Australia is pretty much all we have and we should make it strong and independent.

    I certainly wouldn’t expend the US to defend us- as I said a few days ago, they won’t even defend Texas.


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  96. Well, RB, we don’t know where choo choo man is, because he can post 24/7 whether at work or not.
    It’s a union job and he only knows he’s at work if he’s wearing a safety shirt.


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  97. “You want equivalence and tell me which journalists have been poisoned. How does the GDP of Russia compare to Australia? Putin’s wealth remains a mystery as does how he got it but most analysts put in the billions. The man is corrupt beyond measure. Care to explain how Putin’s son in law became so wealthy after marriage? Just a coincidence I suppose.”

    The Clintons are corrupt beyond measure. Care to explain how the Bill, Hillary and Chelsea have all become so wealthy? The truth is that the Clinton family ooze sleaze and corruption. It is a fact that the “Clinton Foundation”, a “foundation” that our government disgracefully gave money to, helped pay for that ghastly Princess Chelsea’s wedding. Or was that just a “coincidence”?


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  98. The Fox commentators think the emptiness of the Rawalpindi stadium has something to do with Friday prayers — from the same religion that gave us the terrorism that made Pakistan unsafe for international cricket for two decades.


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  99. You want equivalence

    You want equivalence?

    Don’t compare an eastern bloc country to a western country. Get some perspective and compare Australia to Australia historically and Russia to Russia historically.

    That’s a handful of examples that just came to mind, there’d be a few more if you dig just a little.

    And don’t give me this JC level ‘the economy is fantastic because Josh has got the numbers’ bullshit. FMD. The economy can boom but locally things can be dire.


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  100. You’re a moron Milton.
    We are in a far worse situation than the USA.
    Always have been.

    They are still armed and their government power is decentralised. Throughout the pandemic and especially now, they have been so much more free than us, as to be laughable.
    The feds are throwing out mandate orders and the states ore telling him to F off.

    Pick that bottom lip up and stop with the 20 past eight stuff.
    We’re just getting to the start of the fight.

    See the USA is not the Putin government.
    When this shit happens people say “Australia is doing this” Germany is doing that, and the USA are doing something else.
    The governments of all western nations no longer have the people’s trust but the people’s hatred.
    It’s not over by a long shot.
    Of course if we keep complying it will be………


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  101. Struth, I think choo choo man is teaching weaponry school to the gang.
    I asked him about ammo for my nerf gun but he hasn’t replied so far.


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  102. Cassie of Sydneysays:
    March 4, 2022 at 4:11 pm
    “You want equivalence and tell me which journalists have been poisoned. How does the GDP of Russia compare to Australia? Putin’s wealth remains a mystery as does how he got it but most analysts put in the billions. The man is corrupt beyond measure. Care to explain how Putin’s son in law became so wealthy after marriage? Just a coincidence I suppose.”

    The Clintons are corrupt beyond measure. Care to explain how the Bill, Hillary and Chelsea have all become so wealthy? The truth is that the Clinton family ooze sleaze and corruption. It is a fact that the “Clinton Foundation”, a “foundation” that our government disgracefully gave money to, helped pay for that ghastly Princess Chelsea’s wedding. Or was that just a “coincidence”?

    All US politicians have the wonderful advantage of engaging in insider trading. Apart from that look at how much they charge for speaking engagements and photo ops. Corrupt beyond measure? Show me your metric. Are the Clintons worth billions? Are you making stuff up? Do you try to find out something by doing research or do you just choose the worst case possible for your enemies?

    Bill made most of the money, earning $189 million by writing books, giving speeches, consulting private companies and advising billionaire Ron Burkle. Days after his presidency ended, he earned $125,000 for a speech at Morgan Stanley Dean Witter & Co. in New York, according to a financial disclosure form Hillary filed as a senator in 2002. It was the first of hundreds of paid speeches that collectively made him an estimated $106 million over 15 years.



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  103. miltonfsays:
    March 4, 2022 at 4:17 pm
    American corporations that hate America and Americans- if that’s the modern ‘west’ count me out

    Emigrate to Russia. Let us know how that works out for you.


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  104. Oh come onsays:
    March 4, 2022 at 3:51 pm
    Putin is leader for life

    If you start off that wrong, I stop reading. Your basic premise is so flawed that nothing you have derived from this is worth considering.

    A pitiful excuse to run away. It is widely accepted that Putin leadership will only be challenged when he allows it and then it will be a puppet govt until he can shift himself, family and wealth out of harm’s way.


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  105. The USA isn’t it’s government.
    It’s an idea, as they say.
    And so it is.
    A fucking great idea that free people create wealth and governments are the servants of the people and the people must remain armed to ensure it stays that way.
    It might get worse before it gets better, but it will get better.
    The people still have the power there, ultimately, and a government is still fearful of it’s people.

    The left used jan 6 politically of course, but their overreaction was also because they fear the people.
    And so do our governments.
    As does the Chinese.
    All this is over when people stop doing what they are told, taking fucking boosters and giving in etc.


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  106. Emigrate to Russia. Let us know how that works out for you.

    yes but you haven’t addressed my contention that in the west we have an establishment that hates the countries they control


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  107. Miltonf, I have appreciated your posts for a while but you have gone over to the loony gang a bit.
    Maybe you should think for yourself as you used to instead of climbing on with the pile on gang, it doesn’t suit your intelligence.


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  108. Lindsay Graham is a cockhead.
    A child brain in an adult body.

    You can easily anagram this sentence into something that is even more true but I don’t want to get banned…


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  109. Struthsays:

    March 4, 2022 at 4:10 pm

    Well, RB, we don’t know where choo choo man is, because he can post 24/7 whether at work or not.

    Oops.
    That’s awkward.
    A count of posts today gives a narrow victory to St Ruth over Rex.
    But running the word-count ruler over it gives a decisive ‘victory’ to St Ruth.


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  110. EvilElvissays:
    March 4, 2022 at 4:12 pm
    You want equivalence

    You want equivalence?

    Don’t compare an eastern bloc country to a western country. Get some perspective and compare Australia to Australia historically and Russia to Russia historically.

    That’s a handful of examples that just came to mind, there’d be a few more if you dig just a little.

    And don’t give me this JC level ‘the economy is fantastic because Josh has got the numbers’ bullshit. FMD. The economy can boom but locally things can be dire.

    The fact remains Australians have a much better standard of living than Russians. Australians have longer life expectancy, higher standards of living, etc. Don’t erect straw men. Russia GDP is declining, our GDP is growing. That’s the comparison you want. Australia’s economy is remarkably resilient. I don’t care what Josh says and I don’t care about the opinions of people who think a local instance is representative of the whole country. How do you specifically measure the strength of a national economy? Are you just relying on intuition, a gut feeling, fast thinking, or can you point me to specific metrics?


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  111. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupiditysays:
    March 4, 2022 at 4:29 pm
    Putin is worse – ergo our system is perfect.

    Uh-huh.

    Straw man. I never stated Aus is perfect. If this forum is any guide there are clearly far too many pessimists in the country. There is plenty of room for improvement here but there is much more room for improvement in Russia.

    Try harder.


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  112. Struth, see what I mean with the silly gang, they even throw insults when you give them a compliment.
    The emails & texts will be flying asking for reinforcements as we speak…watch them turn up soon.


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  113. dover0beach says:
    March 4, 2022 at 2:23 pm
    Right. So if and when the Azov Battalion goes into action against the Russians, our government is literally supporting Nazis.
    Jupes, Avoz has been fighting since 2014 with Western support. Today’s Dore clip on C14/Azov is particularly enlightening.

    Very interesting, Dover. Throws quite a different light on what’s happening. You have to wonder if our esteemed leaders are aware of just who and what it is they’re backing, although why the heck we’re backing anyone in this shitfight is beyond me. It seems like Morrison is behaving like a little dog trotting at the heels of the US, EU and Britain, wagging his little tail and hoping for a pat on the head for being a good little boy. Seems way out of his depth – again.

    This whole thing is looking very precarious, almost like it’s being deliberately built up to a tipping point of some sort. There are physical, military, financial, territorial, energy “crises” being concurrently forced.

    Does anyone really think this is happening by accident?


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  114. I admit I haven’t paid a lot of attention to Russia over the last 10-15 years. I remember Yeltsin, the brain damaged drunk who was too drunk to get off the plane in Ireland once. Pitiful. But now the Americans have an imposter president who can’t even control his bodily functions.

    The coup of 2020, the physical attacks on Trump supporters by antifa, the application of rigid speech codes, critical race theory and a government which includes a man who dresses as a woman suggests to me the USA is fucked.


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  115. In what way is Russia going into Ukraine different from the US going into Iraq in 2003?
    Exactly! I knew the Ukes were up to no good that time they invaded neighbour Poland and looked like they might continue and sweep through to Hungary and then Austria.

    That was 1990. Saddam wasn’t going anywhere in 2003.


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  116. Stop talking sense John H.
    It’s not that sort of blog.
    But if anyone wants to argue Wussia ahead of Straya for anything apart from home-made vodka consumption and early death from highly preventable health conditions, fill your boots.
    But it is a losing argument.


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  117. How do you specifically measure the strength of a national economy? Are you just relying on intuition, a gut feeling, fast thinking, or can you point me to specific metrics?

    didn’t you just answer that question in the same post?
    Don’t erect straw men. Russia GDP is declining, our GDP is growing.


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  118. Oops.
    That’s awkward.
    A count of posts today gives a narrow victory to St Ruth over Rex.
    But running the word-count ruler over it gives a decisive ‘victory’ to St Ruth.

    You utter fuckwit.
    (I learned that saying in Geelong, there was this bloke with a muscle shirt, but I digress)
    I’m unemployed because I refused the jab.
    And comrade choo choo took the jab to keep going to work.

    I’ve got all day and all night.
    Apparently, so does comrade choo choo.
    But of course, he’s unionised. A Koala as it’s known.
    A protected species that does fuck all.

    It’s ironic isn’t it.
    Enough people empowering the government’s tyranny by taking the jab has put those who stood up against it , out of work, so they can now annoy the fuck out of the compliant fuckers who gave in 24/7!!!!!!
    Ironic, or poetic justice?
    Or both?


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  119. But running the word-count ruler over it gives a decisive ‘victory’ to St Ruth.

    Only because the Kenworth is parked up because of the taxes to pay for the trains and Mrs Struth resigned because she got AIDS or something.


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  120. Sancho Panzersays:
    March 4, 2022 at 4:33 pm
    Struthsays:

    March 4, 2022 at 4:10 pm

    Well, RB, we don’t know where choo choo man is, because he can post 24/7 whether at work or not.

    Oops.
    That’s awkward.
    A count of posts today gives a narrow victory to St Ruth over Rex.
    But running the word-count ruler over it gives a decisive ‘victory’ to St Ruth.

    Simply because dumb cunt can barely string two words together.

    Just sayin.


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  121. Not sure if it has been posted but the FDA released the first bunch of documents about Pfizer tests on the poison jab.
    There were hundreds of side effects from the vaccine listed.
    Good luck you jabbees.


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  122. Does anyone really think this is happening by accident?

    It’s happening by accident in the same way WWI happened by accident.

    And, as in the lead up to WWI, greedy and stupid Western elites have a lot to answer for.


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  123. Every bloody time nuclear power & uranium have a decent run out of no where the spectre of a nuclear disaster raises its head & then everyone loses their lunch.


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  124. Didn’t “we” make a deposit there?

    Ask Gillard.
    It’s not hyperbowl to suggest that we deposited $90M under her leadership.


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  125. Anyway, in view of the parlous state of America and the dangerous state of world affairs, it’s up to us to build self sufficiency- energy, food, defense and manufacturing.

    Where do you think the whole push to feminise the military is coming from? None other than the US of A.


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  126. Cassie of Sydneysays:

    March 4, 2022 at 4:44 pm

    Struth, do you ever forget which alias you are using?

    Bwah ha ha ha ha.
    Some of the posts do not match the blog name handle.
    I can imagine him running between two phones and his wife’s online shopping cumpuda, desparately trying to keep up.
    He’s no sock-meister.


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  127. H B Bearsays:

    March 4, 2022 at 4:47 pm

    Are you really unemployed if you are fighting tyranny?

    It’s a part-time casual job as a Tyranny Fighter level 2.2.
    Twenty four hours a week with a 28% loading on the EBA hourly rate for full-time Tyranny Fighters.


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  128. Biggles you haven’t been out from under your bed for 2 years & yet you still think it is funny having a dig at Razey.
    Repeating what you think is funny just isn’t you dumb bastard.


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  129. Let’s all stop hiding behind alias.

    It’ll be fun.
    The government know who we all are anyway, and thanks to the compliant, over the last two years, how long do you think we’ve really got left with these blogs?


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  130. I’ve thought about using a sock……but I’d give myself away!

    I don’t really see the need- this blog is a great source of information and robust debate is not a bad thing.


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  131. Don’t erect straw men. Russia GDP is declining, our GDP is growing.

    FMD, you went straw man didn’t you.
    If that’s your only metric for sleeping soundly at night then good for you. Like Ukraine though, don’t pretend Australia is angelic and pure just because it seems amazing compared to an communist country.


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  132. miltonfsays:
    March 4, 2022 at 4:37 pm
    I admit I haven’t paid a lot of attention to Russia over the last 10-15 years. I remember Yeltsin, the brain damaged drunk who was too drunk to get off the plane in Ireland once. Pitiful. But now the Americans have an imposter president who can’t even control his bodily functions.

    The coup of 2020, the physical attacks on Trump supporters by antifa, the application of rigid speech codes, critical race theory and a government which includes a man who dresses as a woman suggests to me the USA is fucked.

    Biden is appalling. Obviously has MCI. If a few men dressing as women spells doom for a culture then that culture is too weak to survive. A leader does not determine the fate of a country. Many countries have had bad leaders and survived. Don’t worry, be happy. Don’t Panic. The end is might be nigh but the future remains uncertain; as it always has. Everything could change tomorrow, everything could remain the same. Statistically the latter is far more probable. I don’t want to live in interesting times but I get the distinct feeling that many here would love for that to happen just so they could say forever and forever, “I told you so.”


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  133. Who is bringing in the grocery money, St Ruth?
    Is Mrs St Ruth out working while you sit on your arse?

    In doing what I am doing fucktard, I’m doing more for this country than you surrender monkeys.
    Show some respect, Frank.
    Things aren’t like they used to be, and submitting shit stains like you should think twice before opening your fat traps.
    You’re not worthy.
    Pathetic.
    Only about 4% of you were really forced to get it, one being KD.
    You have no excuse Frank.
    You knew it came with a segregatory Good Nazi pass.
    You all did.

    Scum.


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  134. As the info comes out more & more I think the ones who took the jab are getting more & more angry & realise they have been duped & so they get angry at the unjabbed.
    Stupid bastards….you idiots should turn your anger at the authorities not me.
    I am a pure blood & proud of it.


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  135. Struth

    Stop trying to issue orders to others and go fuck yourself. I will choose how I wish to be known and if I decide to change it’s my decision .

    This is like the Tought Leader’s crap back in early January suggesting that if he absconded I should too – like misery somehow shares company.

    Stick your stupid idea up your rear end. Frankly, I don’t give a shit what your real name is as it doesn’t interest me in the least, you fat mouthed idiot.


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  136. “Biden is appalling. Obviously has MCI. If a few men dressing as women spells doom for a culture then that culture is too weak to survive. A leader does not determine the fate of a country. Many countries have had bad leaders and survived. Don’t worry, be happy. Don’t Panic. The end is might be nigh but the future remains uncertain; as it always has. Everything could change tomorrow, everything could remain the same. Statistically the latter is far more probable. I don’t want to live in interesting times but I get the distinct feeling that many here would love for that to happen just so they could say forever and forever, “I told you so.””

    What planet are you on?


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  137. Russians may tend to want to kill each other in times of war, yet despite the absence of war, our own society is inclined to alternate forms of death-dealing.


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  138. As I’ve said, I hope I’m wrong about America but the strategy of the US establishment now is to systematically wreck it- hence the open border. Hey why did we even bother going thru immigration at LAX when you can just walk across from Mexico? It would be a joke if it wasn’t so evil.


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  139. HP, I was arranging to meet you in Ukraine with notabrain, choo choo man was going to be our armourer.
    Choo choo man was going to equip with us a noisy thing to wipe out that huge Russian convoy.


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  140. Don’t compare an eastern bloc country to a western country. Get some perspective and compare Australia to Australia historically and Russia to Russia historically.

    We can both walk and chew gum, you low iq rodent. We can look at Australia’s historical living standard and compare say Russia’s historical living standard. Any wouldn’t you? It makes zero sense to just look at this sort of data in isolation. You really are a an idiot.

    And don’t give me this JC level ‘the economy is fantastic because Josh has got the numbers’ bullshit. FMD. The economy can boom but locally things can be dire.

    Josh is looking at the aggregates as he should. He can also look at data on a regional basis. If the economy is booming it would mean there’s a lot going for it even if your shithole corner is doing terribly.

    You have no point to make. Shut up Evil.


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  141. It’s happening by accident in the same way WWI happened by accident.

    Yep Conrad von Hötzendorf , CoS of the KuK Armed Forces was determined to invade Serbia and was pulling old Franz-Josef’s strings. Sadly his grand plans failed to anticipate a 2 front war with both Russia & Serbia. The miscalculation by Kaiser Willie in giving Austria the ‘blank cheque’ played right in Conrad’s hands.
    New Thinking on the Origins of World War I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMKqPgWJYr8 US FPRI


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  142. And those that give up livelihoods so as not to surrender to what is virtually a fascist takeover, get told they are “sitting on their arse” by the same loud mouthed surrender Monkeys.

    There’s millions of Nurses and teachers and unjabbed suffering all over Australia because they have more principles in their little finger than Frank will ever have, that would lose their shit if he said that to their faces.
    I don’t think I’d have to worry about knocking some respect into him, that’s for sure.


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  143. Shitting on it like the Left does and wiehing its demise because the Left has made it shitty to be in over the last 20 years, won’t improve things.

    I don’t shit on the West or wish for its demise. I want it to be better. Things are bad in the West and they’re getting worse. I suspect we’re going to have to endure some kind of major setback – it’s hard to say how major but probably worse than anything we endured in the 20th century – to shake the West out of the self-absorbed, self-destructive, hopelessly conflicted stupor it has fallen into. I think we’re far beyond the point where recovery via incremental reform and improvement is possible.


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  144. Stop trying to issue orders to others and go fuck yourself.

    Issuing orders.
    It’s called suggesting something.
    It frightens the shit out of you so you see it as orders.
    You’re threatened by the very suggestion.
    But sniffles dear, it was only a suggestion.
    If you want an actual order.
    Get fucked……


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  145. It’s happening by accident in the same way WWI happened by accident.

    I’ve been reflecting on that during the past couple of days. All those crazy alliances and conflicting aims. No one wanting to back down and say, enough! Defending either completely fabricated positions or nothing at all. Public opinion going apesh*t.


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  146. St Ruth.
    You’ve over-compensated.
    Ted has been moved a bit too far along the raving looney spectrum.
    You need to bring him back from eleventy to about eight.


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  147. Wow Lindsay RINO Graham is even more of a PoS than I realised. Calling for Putin’s assassination. Maybe some justice for Ashli Babbit’s family would be more appropriate. I murder happened in his own effing building!


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  148. Issuing orders.
    It’s called suggesting something.
    It frightens the shit out of you so you see it as orders.
    You’re threatened by the very suggestion.
    But sniffles dear, it was only a suggestion.
    If you want an actual order.
    Get fucked……

    Orders, suggestions – pretty much everything coming from you is annoyingly stupid. Keep your suggestions for the furniture factory, you fatmouthed idiot. Go disclose your name etc at the factory. Go!


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  149. You all know me.
    My name is Mike Hunt-Hurts.
    I’m a fashion Model for the latest in Hijabs.
    NOT A LETTER BOX you arseholes!
    No wonder I’m pissed off all the time.
    Now you know.


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  150. There’s millions of Nurses and teachers and unjabbed suffering all over Australia …

    Millions you say?
    Oh well, at least they won’t die sometime between 13 months and 43 months from now.
    So I guess they feel pretty smug, eh?


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  151. You have no point to make. Shut up Evil.

    Thank god Kerry Spacker is finally here. What cask is on the menu today you little, little, piece of shit of a ‘man’?

    Oh, and the US is the greatest place on earth, because Cuba is shit. That’s the style of argument at hand here you fucking mong. Oh, and the big corporate bastards you can’t get enough of might be growing the economy and padding Joshy’s numbers but they’re also in lock step with the government fucking small business and pushing socialist nonsense that fucks us all.

    But hey, you’re a fuckheaded, smug Victorian with a typical fuck you I’m alright attitude. You are a fucking dreg, JC.


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  152. OCO

    I don’t think you experienced the Cold War. It was pretty worrying then too. We’re not at that extreme yet. Things ebb and flow.

    My concern is that after two years of this lockdown thing, a lot of people have gone a little nuts. Hopefully, we come to our senses and get back to some sort of normal. I think we will and we shouldn’t despair as shit works itself out.


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  153. Orders, suggestions – pretty much everything coming from you is annoyingly stupid. Keep your suggestions for the furniture factory, you fatmouthed idiot. Go disclose your name etc at the factory. Go!

    Talk about an incentive to hang around.
    A surrender monkey wants his quiet life back.
    You want everything JC.
    No civic responsibility, and no repercussions.
    Funny how life’s not like that.
    Fuck you.
    You’re the real terrorist.
    Go and hang your white flag out your window before you go off for your secret smoke so your wife won’t find out you sad fuck.


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  154. Shitting on it like the Left does and wiehing its demise because the Left has made it shitty to be in over the last 20 years, won’t improve things.

    a ‘civilisation’ that advocates puberty blockers for minors is seriously sick but hey Putin is evil


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  155. Cohenite:
    Putin and the energy situation.
    It’s amusing, in a very detached way, to see the Western Governments first interfering in the energy markets by promoting Green propaganda and then having to back down and reverse course because their initial attempts to pick winners and losers was wrong.
    They could have said to the frackers “Good work, just continue what you’re doing – it’s a free market. Subsidies? No way.”
    They could have said to the Solar Panel and Wind Industry “Interesting theory you have there about AGW. Just continue what you’re doing – it’s a free market. Subsidies? No way.”
    Instead of staying out of the market and letting it work, they interfered with subsidies and restrictive legislation.
    Oh dear.
    Not quite the smartest persons in the room now, Political Establishment?
    It’s a broken record that keeps on playing and playing and playing.


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  156. Struthsays:
    March 4, 2022 at 3:18 pm
    ….
    “Th” is not promounced “F,” although like most from Geelong, if you haven’t got all your front teeth, we’ll let you off.
    On the other hand, myself having lived in Melbourne…

    Tell me Struth, where did you meet people from Geelong who gave you that impression? Did you hobnob with Old Grammarians and Old Collegians in the garden at the Melbourne Club? Or are your impressions formed from having been at a somewhat lower strata of society yourself?


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  157. I see SA’s Emergency Czar (the Police Commissioner) has revoked the vaxx mandate for police officers.

    Im torn between ‘good – no one should be mandated to receive any health intervention – its a personal choice’

    and

    ‘You fucking hypocrit!!”


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  158. Not quite the smartest persons in the room now, Political Establishment?

    Locally, Queensland Resources Council CEO Ian Macfarlane says coal fired electricity could be phased out in a decade but there is no plan to keep electricity affordable. I guess he hasn’t heard how cheap renewables are.


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  159. The sad part is, I know this blog only too well.
    What Frank said, calling people who haven’t surrendered “sitting on their arse” is disgusting and many here know it.
    It’s the level of shit we’ve come to expect from scum like that, but not one timid little fucker will say hang on, that’s not right Frank….
    Not one.
    And that, when this is supposed to be a right wing blog as well, is why Australia is in the shit it is.
    Cowardice.


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  160. The odd thing in all this world turmoil is the fucking idiots in the west will vote for more of the same shit that has fucked us over for decades.
    Biggles I am looking at you & choo choo man.


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  161. Thank god Kerry Spacker is finally here. What cask is on the menu today you little, little, piece of shit of a ‘man’?

    You’re an idiot and you should stop talking too. Seriously, is it the ground water in Queersland? Not only are a lot of you just mouthy kunts, but you’re also stupid and I mean really dumb.

    Why wouldn’t you want to compare national living standards? Can you offer a single reason why that isn’t useful, you deranged cockroach?

    Oh, and the US is the greatest place on earth, because Cuba is shit.

    Well yes, you moron. It is the greatest nation on earth by stretches and Cuba is not just a shithole but in comparison is a lice ridden human kennel. The US is the ONLY nation on earth that has an extremely high living standard with population of over 2oo million people. There’s nothing else and it’s an incredible achievement.

    That’s the style of argument at hand here you fucking mong.

    This makes less sense than your usual stupidity and or incoherence.

    Oh, and the big corporate bastards you can’t get enough of might be growing the economy and padding Joshy’s numbers but they’re also in lock step with the government fucking small business and pushing socialist nonsense that fucks us all.

    Another Queersland loser blaming his plight on BHP. If only BHP wasn’t so efficient at mining and making money, Evil Elvis would be so much better off.

    But hey, you’re a fuckheaded, smug Victorian with a typical fuck you I’m alright attitude.

    Actually I’m very nice to non-retards.

    You are a fucking dreg, JC.

    You’re so hurtful at times, Evil.


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  162. Tell me Struth, where did you meet people from Geelong who gave you that impression? Did you hobnob with Old Grammarians and Old Collegians in the garden at the Melbourne Club? Or are your impressions formed from having been at a somewhat lower strata of society yourself?

    I’ll have fifty on Option B, please.


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  163. Struthsays:
    March 4, 2022 at 5:35 pm
    Tell me Struth, where did you meet people from Geelong who gave you that impression?

    On this blog.

    Impressive! Dental diagnosis through cyberspace.


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  164. Comment of the day so far, from John H at 3.57:

    For many years every day on this forum someone has been proclaiming the sky is falling. So many pessimists here it is wonder the membership isn’t disappearing through suicide.

    I missed the comment at the time it was made. Fighting tyranNyand coups d’etat don’t do themselves, y’know.


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  165. Let’s all stop hiding behind alias.

    I have a potentially lucrative TV empire to revive. If those fucking Wiggles would just fucking fuck the fuck off.


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  166. Hey, St Ruth, you claimed that less than 40% of Queenssslanders were jabbed and everyone in rural Queensssland was ignoring the rules.
    If that is so, why are you sitting on your arse?
    You can’t get a cash job among that vast network of Queenssslander Resistance?


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  167. 4.54 p.m.:

    The government know who we all are anyway, and thanks to the compliant, over the last two years, how long do you think we’ve really got left with these blogs?

    Faulty speaketh.


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  168. The USA is the best place on earth JC.
    It got that way because realists understood the institutions of freedom and what is needed.
    Not dot style open borders and you trading wif China coz their Cheaper libertarianism, but a solid understanding of conservative values.
    That’s where you always fall down JC.
    Understanding the foundations of the sharemarket you gamble on.
    We would agree that freedom creates wealth, but you wouldn’t have a clue how to get or keep that freedom.
    Libertarianism is wishful thinking.


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  169. He’s the messiah now.

    Sounds more like a Nuffy boy to me…

    Also, I like the fact that Struth starts a bombastic wordwall in praise of Red-Blooded America with “The USA is not its government,” but in the next few sentences and multiple follow-up posts, condemns every Australian in the most vile terms he can imagine because he hates the people in charge here.

    Only a little bit hypocritical, Struth baby…


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  170. “I don’t think you experienced the Cold War. It was pretty worrying then too. We’re not at that extreme yet. Things ebb and flow.

    My concern is that after two years of this lockdown thing, a lot of people have gone a little nuts. Hopefully, we come to our senses and get back to some sort of normal. I think we will and we shouldn’t despair as shit works itself out.”

    JC, I admire your optimism. Once upon a time I also had a lot of optimism. Now whilst Covid hasn’t sent me nuts, it has made me somewhat detached and depressed about the state of the world and particularly about the state of this country. I watched what ensued in Victoria and it made me depressed because this is not the country I grew up in, I don’t recognise it. I’ve watched this clown of a PM behave like Billy Bunter and spend his time bumbling around trying to be liked by everyone, including those who despise him….and I get depressed and I wonder where our leadership is. I watched what the left and MSM did to Trump and I got depressed…and now have no strong leadership in the West.

    We’ve had two years of unmitigated Covid fear and Covid porn hurled at us. Last night at the book launch here in Sydney’s CBD, we the guests were not wearing masks yet the catering staff were all masked. I found it stupid. When I was sitting down, a young masked girl asked if she could top up my glass of wine, I looked at her and I said “yes, and I said why are you wearing a mask?”….she replied “I have an immunity compromised family member”. I thought to myself….what a load of crap. Wearing masks is virtue signalling on steroids.

    I don’t feel much hope for the future, we’re going to have an Albanese Labor government. That won’t be fun. There’ll be no normality.


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  171. Talk about an incentive to hang around.

    Have it your way, as I really don’t give shit. In fact, I quite like mocking you and there’s zero chance I’ll ever visit the furniture factory.

    A surrender monkey wants his quiet life back.

    You’ve been whining like this for two years now and you still think your life isn’t back.

    You want everything JC.

    Read Von Mises. Human wants are limitless.

    No civic responsibility, and no repercussions.

    The bread delivery driver comes out as the fascist he is, demanding others demonstrate civic responsibility.

    Funny how life’s not like that.
    Fuck you.

    Okay, I can live with that.

    You’re the real terrorist.

    I am? Huh!

    Go and hang your white flag out your window before you go off for your secret smoke so your wife won’t find out you sad fuck.

    It’s called keeping the peace and I don’t really want to upset the gal as she really cares for me. Please promise you won’t tell her. 🙂

    Struth, get back to the furniture factory as this is now getting really dull.


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  172. Timothy Neilson says:
    March 4, 2022 at 5:39 pm

    Struthsays:
    March 4, 2022 at 5:35 pm
    Tell me Struth, where did you meet people from Geelong who gave you that impression?

    On this blog.

    Impressive! Dental diagnosis through cyberspace.

    LOl..


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  173. And, while we’re at it-

    Now, have you got your link to the building of Death Camps for the unvaxxxinated on Day One of ‘Two Weeks To Flatten The Curve,’yet?

    You know, the thing you’re still trying to deflect from by calling me whatever the latest string of hyperbolic gibberish is you’ve invented?

    Slander is not an effective tool of rhetorical persuasion, you know. It suggests you might have something to hide.

    Just like the fact that when we whistle up the Half-Yearly Report for Aurizon, the single largest rail freight operator in the country, partocularly the ‘Bulk Division,’ in which Struth’s assertions about ‘General Freight’ sit. It would seem that there is not a single section in the document that lists SuBsIdIEs paid by governments to this company to run on any State or Federal railway track in Australia that it does not own. And it is just one of many rail freight operators nationwide. None of whom own track or are paid by Struth’s taxes to exist.

    And before anyone gets excited about ‘Track Access Revenues,’ in the Coal Division, scroll down to the section of the report where Aurizon explains that it owns and maintains practically all the coal rail network in Queensland. And now also has much of the SA and NT networks after absorbing OneRail late last year.


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  174. Another cracker from the Quenthland CHO, earlier this afternoon:

    On the other hand, myself having lived in Melbourne and guided many tours around Melbourne in my life note I know it better than most. Especially the ones living there recently.

    Guided many tours around Melbourne. Tours of what? For who?

    ‘To your left you will see the MCG.’
    ‘On the right is the house where Gangitano was shot.’
    ‘Get your cameras ready, folks. Just over the hill is the Yarra, where depending on the time of day you can see bodies of people who jumped off the West Gate Bridge floating in it.’

    Unless this refers to bucks’ night tours down the King Street stripper strip, I’m calling this gigantic horseshit.


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  175. Evil

    I’m off to dinner soon. It’s a really nice expensive restaurant down the road. Everything is cooked in a wood fire. Should I think of you when gulping down a great steak?

    How about you struth, you nob head?


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