Open Thread – Tues 1 March 2022


Cain and Abel, Jean-Charles-Joseph Rémond, mid-1800s

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Struth
March 4, 2022 12:49 am

And in comes choo choo man on his RDO dribbling shit.
JC, note how he does it.
Once he’s been demolished he just keeps on talking and truth and facts are irrelevent.
He just figures if he has the last say, no matter if it’s the biggest pile of embarrassing shit known to man, he’s won.

He’s a unionised rail “worker’ (I use the term loosely) so he’s got plenty of time on his hands.
You aren’t doing much either I take it.
Look to these guys.
Remember, what you don’t know about Queenslanders, or anything really, should never be a barrier to mouthing off.
Just make something up.
It’s called magical thinking.
It never stops these guys………

John H.
John H.
March 4, 2022 12:53 am
Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 4, 2022 12:56 am

Struth says:
March 4, 2022 at 12:49 am

Remarkable.

The man barely finishes huffing and puffing about being lied about and mUh ChArAcTeR AsSaSsInaTiOn!

And here he is, laying it on thick.

And all because I once checked his fact-free ranting about the railway systems in this country.

I’d make a comment along the lines of Hypocrisy, thy name is Struth, but then I realised that if the manlet did not have double standards, he’d have no standards at all.

Hey Struth, let me know if you want something reasonably strong to keep that Glass Jaw of yours intact. I think I know where I can find a spare knuckle pin or drawbar or something similar for you… 🙂

Struth
March 4, 2022 1:26 am

Choo choo man the fantasist……..it wasn’t me who caught you out lying about rail subsidies…….oops.

You never did get over that did you?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 4, 2022 2:23 am

Choo choo man the fantasist

Says the Manlet who, like the last time this happened, started the day with a bluster and s lie (first with a cartoonish refusal to understand about how rail companies pay their way, this time with the ambit that governments in Australia were buidling death camps for unvaccinated people on Day One of the covid crisis), moved his own goalposts multiple times to try and sustain it, called me every name under the sun as if discrediting all of his challengers might miraculously deflect from him and salvage his failure, then desperately seized on a third party’s misunderstanding of his own lie to claim victory.

And then spent all his spare time lamenting about character assassination and being lied about behind his back. While dishing out everything he kept saying he hated and could not bear to take.

Life must be hard being a Manlet. He just can’t let anything go…

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 4, 2022 2:29 am

That offer for something to reinforce you Glass Jaw still stands, Manlet.

Even if it’s just a lend of my roll of Gaffer Tape… 🙂

Oh come on
Oh come on
March 4, 2022 3:20 am

Our tax dollars at work:

Q+A host Stan Grant asks pro-Russian audience member to leave the studio after Ukraine claim

It really is as disgraceful as the headline suggests. The booted audience member made a verifiable claim* that was too anti-Narrative, and sTan got the vapours then kicked him out.

Expressing unauthorised views will not be tolerated at the national broadcaster.. And the ABC is proud to maintain this standard.

*that a bunch of people had been killed in the Donbas due to Ukrainian military action since 2014

JC
JC
March 4, 2022 3:43 am

JC.
Let me help you out regards your curiosity about the world outside Lygon street.
It’s scary for you out there.
You have often told us this.
You scratch your head about “Queenslanders”

Struth, the fact remains – left or Right – if a commenter continually makes stupid, ignorant and ridiculous comments, when challenged breaks into a psychological stupor and appears unable to cope, most often that person is from Queersland. We’re up at the 95% confidence level in making this prediction.

rosie
rosie
March 4, 2022 3:56 am

Postcard.
Walked to Notre Dame, repair work advancing, two years ago they were putting in the replacement oak timbers, now the stone work over those timbers is well advanced.
Plenty of tourists, me too, milling about.
I popped into St Paul et St Louis too, they have definitely moved an side altar on the left hand side, it used to be just chairs and ‘my spot’.
Was good to see much sterner written rules for tourists who I’ve seen interrupt Sunday mass in the rudest way.
Buses seem much less crowded, I think a lot of people still working from home.
Works for me.

Tom
Tom
March 4, 2022 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
March 4, 2022 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
March 4, 2022 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
March 4, 2022 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
March 4, 2022 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
March 4, 2022 4:10 am
Tom
Tom
March 4, 2022 4:11 am
Tom
Tom
March 4, 2022 4:12 am
Tom
Tom
March 4, 2022 4:13 am
Tom
Tom
March 4, 2022 4:14 am
Tom
Tom
March 4, 2022 4:16 am
Tom
Tom
March 4, 2022 4:17 am
Tom
Tom
March 4, 2022 4:18 am
Tom
Tom
March 4, 2022 4:19 am
Tom
Tom
March 4, 2022 4:20 am
2dogs
2dogs
March 4, 2022 4:44 am

Some excellent ones today, Tom.

Liked Bob Moran’s.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 4, 2022 5:06 am

Tszyu wins again.
new.com.au has it prominently displayed.
It appears that smh.com.au isn’t covering it.
Maybe they don’t like his heritage all of a sudden.
At least they didn’t try line “he isn’t really Russia, he’s Cossack don’t ya know”.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 4, 2022 5:10 am

I’m old enough to remember when the French were testing nukes in the Pacific 20 odd years ago, protesters harassed the owners & patrons of the Delifrance franchises.
Not much has changed.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 4, 2022 5:14 am

Head line at ProPublica:

What’s Holding Up the COVID Vaccines for Children Under 5?

PS, ProPublica’s biggest private donor?
Bill Gates.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 4, 2022 5:21 am

Walter Kirn
@walterkirn
I actually lost friends over what they felt was my inadequate esteem for Dr Fauci. They were very upset with me & made a big issue of the matter. Now the regime itself seems to have ditched him. He’s nowhere to be found. How strange that showing loyalty to him was once a test

Breaking news, old lefty hippy finds out his old lefty friends are actually fascists.

Gabor
Gabor
March 4, 2022 5:49 am

Shyte!
Stan the Grant spent too much time under the sunlamps.
Or had the Jackson treatment before?

Megan
Megan
March 4, 2022 6:10 am

What the hell is that Broelman contribution saying this morning? Weak and pathetic to the power of eleventy.

The social media warriors will love it.

Anchor What
Anchor What
March 4, 2022 6:29 am

Mainstream media isn’t bothering to look at negotiations with Iran in Vienna. This is about getting another stupidly naive agreement up and running – naive because, like last time, there’s no way Iran will stop doing what it has been doing all along. Naive because lifting sanctions will not result in any benefit to the free world, and certainly not to the long suffering people of Iran.
Thanks are due again to Melanie Phillips and Powerline for drawing attention to a report by a former State Department guy who spills the beans on what’s going on.
It isn’t pretty.

Anchor What
Anchor What
March 4, 2022 7:01 am

Europe is rediscovering the benefits of locally sourced coal power generation, and since Russia has been a major source of aluminium (also known as congealed electricity!), prices for coal and aluminium are way up.
Australia used to have a healthy aluminium smelting industry.
Why? Because we have the bauxite ore and used to have affordable and reliable power.

Gabor
Gabor
March 4, 2022 7:03 am

Anchor What says:
March 4, 2022 at 7:01 am

Australia used to have a healthy aluminium smelting industry.
Why? Because we have the bauxite ore and used to have affordable and reliable power.

Ah, sweet memories.

calli
calli
March 4, 2022 7:06 am

Liked Bob Moran’s.

Yes! When everyone is Hitler whom do you choose as the “good guy”?

calli
calli
March 4, 2022 7:18 am

Blue sky alert! Repeat…blue sky alert!

Looks like the deluge is over. I await a bird with a leaf in its beak just to make sure. The loudmouth kooka on the porch waiting for mince is insufficient evidence.

Cassie of Sydney
March 4, 2022 7:18 am

“Australia used to have a healthy aluminium smelting industry.
Why? Because we have the bauxite ore and used to have affordable and reliable power.”

Correct….and

Australia once had a manufacturing industry. Gone.
Australia once had cheap and reliable power. Gone.

Unless we go nuclear, there’s no hope for this country.

Successive governments, both Liberal and Labor, have participated in the destruction of these industries by promoting the use of unreliable renewables, by destroying our energy grid and by kowtowing to fringe green activists.

We are governed by clowns and cowards. Morrison is both.

calli
calli
March 4, 2022 7:21 am

We were to become a “clever” country, not a productive one.

Only the deluded imagine we can become wealthy by mind power alone. And even that was a nonsense. If anything, the place has become even dumber.

Cassie of Sydney
March 4, 2022 7:23 am

It was refreshing last night to see UK commentator Calvin Robinson, on Rita Panahi’s show, speak some truth about what’s happening in Ukraine. Whilst condemning the Russian invasion, he spoke of the deluge of fake news in the western MSM and he said, accurately, that the Ukrainian government isn’t lily white and innocent of any culpability.

Amen.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
March 4, 2022 7:28 am

Calli, you aren’t implying that it’s baddies v baddies are you?
Careful, you’ll get the full anti-Abbott treatment from the left.

Crossie
Crossie
March 4, 2022 7:30 am

It was during John Howard’s prime ministership that the Granville aluminium works, where my husband worked, closed. Liberals have a lot more to answer for seeing as they were supposed to have been rational about national security not just profits.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
March 4, 2022 7:31 am

Did anyone see the Stan Grant Q&A last night?
He appears to have booted an audience member out.
Curious minds are asking why.

Crossie
Crossie
March 4, 2022 7:32 am

Calvin Robinson is a divinity student yet is more knowledgeable and politically savvy than so many so-called foreign affairs specialists.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
March 4, 2022 7:37 am

Ah – caught up on the Grant explosion thru C.L.

Cassie of Sydney
March 4, 2022 7:38 am

“Crossiesays:
March 4, 2022 at 7:32 am
Calvin Robinson is a divinity student yet is more knowledgeable and politically savvy than so many so-called foreign affairs specialists.”

Especially some of our own “foreign affairs specialists”, I’m looking at The Oz’s resident Dribbler, Greg Sheridan.

johanna
johanna
March 4, 2022 7:40 am

This is just silly:

The Ukrainian government has announced that spoils of war, such as Russian tanks taken from the battlefield, will not be considered as taxable income.

Amid footage appearing on social media purporting to show Ukrainian farmers towing away Russian tanks with tractors, Ukraine’s National Agency for the Prevention of Corruption issued guidance saying that the “acquisition of objects seized from the racist [Russian] army” does not need to be declared on tax filings.

In a press release on Monday, the NAPC said: “Have you captured a Russian tank or armoured personnel carrier and are worried about how to declare it? Keep calm and continue to defend the Motherland! There is no need to declare the captured Russian tanks and other equipment.”

Apparently the integrity of the Ukraine’s tax system (ha ha) is an important consideration in the propaganda blizzard.

Not so silly, but very unpleasant, is this:

A verified Ukrainian military account warned that Russian artillerymen trying to surrender would be “slaughtered like pigs” in a now-edited Facebook post after reports of heavy shelling in some cities.

In a bombastic post initially uploaded to a verified social media account on Wednesday, the Ukrainian account sent sarcastic greetings to “Russian artillerymen” who they said had been targeting “our peaceful cities, our relatives, children, loved ones” with “severe shelling”.

The post suggested that the Russian “worms” might find it easy to strike their targets — “little children, old people, houses, kindergartens, schools, and hospitals” — because they could not see them at a distance, but vowed that there would be nothing easy about the gunners’ experience in the ongoing conflict.

“We already have information about you,” the post claimed, before issuing a stark warning that “From now on, there will be no more captured Russian artillerymen. No mercy, no ‘please do not kill, I surrender’ will not pass” and threatening that they would be “slaughtered like pigs.”

“Call your mother one last time. Say you’ll die soon, jackal,” the post added, concluding: “We are not death, we are worse!”

These are the people we are told by the Great and the Good that we should be supporting.

And no, I’m not supporting the other side either.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 4, 2022 7:43 am

Ed Casesays:
March 3, 2022 at 10:16 pm
Yeah, checked out National Vanguard.
It’s a Spook site.
Razey is a Glowie after all, but, so what?

Yeah, it’s a puzzler?
Razey posts some SpookShit, 2 minutes later, Dot flounces, 2 minutes after
that Rex Franger presses Report Comment, then larps as a statesman.
I’m sure it’s all totally legit …

Almost as legitimate as Dick Ed, who shows every sign of being a Glowie/Spook himself?

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 4, 2022 7:46 am

Overnight there have been a couple of analysts asking the question.
Why are we being told to dump Russian assets & boycott them at the same time the Russian gas is still pumping west though Ukraine uninterrupted.

At some point, Russia will put the squeeze on Europe.
Can they do without $US700mill a day in income?
What happens if Russian literally turns off the gas, what reaction from the US.
It’s not a pretty picture.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 4, 2022 7:47 am

Sad wet birdy.

Navy Recovers Stealth Fighter From Bottom of South China Sea (3 Mar)

The Navy announced that the stealth jet was raised Wednesday from a depth of 12,400 feet using a remotely operated diving vehicle and a crane from a diving support construction vessel known as Picasso, according to the 7th Fleet, which is based in Yokosuka, Japan.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 4, 2022 7:47 am

Good crop again this morning Tom.

Broelman perfectly encapsulates the ‘Pollyanna politics’ spoken of over the last day or so.

‘Put your weapons down. You are surrounded by love.’

Fuck off.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 4, 2022 7:53 am

I’m old enough to remember when it was illegal to go overseas as a private citizen to fight in a foreign war.
Now it’s celebrated.

caveman
caveman
March 4, 2022 7:54 am

Did anyone see the Stan Grant Q&A last night?
He appears to have booted an audience member out.

Snowcone would have taken that as a comment.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
March 4, 2022 7:54 am

Q&A – AfghaniStan for the believers.
‘I’ll tell you what questions you can ask and the answers I accept.’

struth
struth
March 4, 2022 8:05 am

Good Moaning.
Some of the jabbed, like JC are finding the world a harder place to cope with these days.
He can’t grasp the thinking of Queenslanders!
Yet by looking at the mass migration of Victorians up to here many of his fellow Mexicans can, and are indeed grateful we exist.
And both states have tyrannical Premiers.
Both states have cities full of Victorians and third world immigration.
That’s why since the coup started the Vics have been moving to Queenslands regional areas.
The country!
The Queensland country!

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 4, 2022 8:07 am

How will Big Tech censor independent media re Ukraine & Russia.
They did with Trump.
Then COVID.
They’ve started with the banning of RT.
What next?

Diogenes
Diogenes
March 4, 2022 8:07 am

Liked Bob Moran’s.

Yes! When everyone is Hitler whom do you choose as the “good guy”?

It was funny listening to TikHistory reading extracts from Orwell’s what is fascism https://youtu.be/05FFux4uPd8 .
Literally everybody is a fascist.

calli
calli
March 4, 2022 8:11 am

And no, I’m not supporting the other side either.

Quite.

Have we reached the point of idiocy when “thinking stuff” constitutes support? As if it mattered in a material way?

It’s the equivalent of “thoughts and prayers” for victims rather than physically helping them. But watch out! Just thinking wrongthoughts will have you cancelled.

Cassie of Sydney
March 4, 2022 8:13 am

“Did anyone see the Stan Grant Q&A last night?
He appears to have booted an audience member out.”

Hmm….all paid for by you and me.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
March 4, 2022 8:14 am

When you need a bulldozer, this is what government provides. Note the date.

https://lismore.nsw.gov.au/news/new-plan-to-minimise-flood-hazard

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 4, 2022 8:17 am

Oh good. It’s Quenthlander Day.

Again.

That’s why since the coup started the Vics have been moving to Queenslands regional areas.

Only white Anglo Christian blokes, though, because only they can save us. Right, Premier* St. Ruth?

*Outlandish claims. ‘Millions of deaths;. Parochialism. Can’t walk it back. Doubles down. Nowhere to go.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 4, 2022 8:18 am

People have been moving to Queensland for 30 years or more. Longest coup ever

Initially, the motivation was for cheap smokes.

calli
calli
March 4, 2022 8:19 am

Oi! I have rellies in Queensland! They’re not strange at all.

………

Well, just a little bit.

But we pretend not to notice. 😀

struth
struth
March 4, 2022 8:19 am

Not one Queenslander has moved to Victoriastan and one of the very first compliant to Dan, who took a jab from criminals that hate humanity, to save himself from a virus 99.99999% survived before the vaxxes etc etc can’t grasp why Cardimona , Pauline Hanson, Mat Cavanaugh, Clive Palmer, and even the bad names like Rudd come out of Qld.
From a once Victorian myself let me give you a hint.
There’s life outside the AFL.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 4, 2022 8:20 am

Ha.

Typing in the pre-dawn. Stupid typos.

calli
calli
March 4, 2022 8:21 am

Cheap smokes, then pop across to NSW to play the pokies.

Living the dream in border country.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
March 4, 2022 8:21 am

Note the date
26th Oct 2021

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 4, 2022 8:22 am

feelthebernsays:
March 4, 2022 at 7:53 am
I’m old enough to remember when it was illegal to go overseas as a private citizen to fight in a foreign war.
Now it’s celebrated.

As an example of how positions change to follow fashion, Homer P was waxing eloquent on a thread at CL’s blog a few days ago, about how the Australian government should change the law to allow Australians to travel to Ukraine to fight there!

See the “Prime Minister suggests” thread.

Beertruk
Beertruk
March 4, 2022 8:24 am

From Pauline Hanson’s Please Explain:
Episode 17 “Please Explain Political Campaigning”

calli
calli
March 4, 2022 8:25 am

Old men urging young men to go and die for a cause none of them understand.

Been happening since time immemorial.

Tenderly bury the fair young dead,
Place a wooden cross at his head,
All the words you can say
Have been said
It’s for you my tears are shed

struth
struth
March 4, 2022 8:28 am

Not walking one thing back KD.
By the way, you are a perfect example of the Victorian mind.
You are the example this morning.
Footy and cricket have consumed you to the point you haven’t been able to fully grasp the world outside.
Footy is the opium of the masses.
One of political corruption’s finest weapons.
And Victorians like yourself are terribly addicted.

johanna
johanna
March 4, 2022 8:32 am

Knuckle Dragger says:
March 4, 2022 at 8:18 am

People have been moving to Queensland for 30 years or more. Longest coup ever

Initially, the motivation was for cheap smokes.

No, initially, it was to escape State government imposed death duties. Bjelke-Petersen abolished them, and retirees with more than $50 to their name began to consider the advantages of mosquitoes and floods. In fact, it was the genesis of the Gold Coast, it being as close to NSW and as far away from mozzies and floods as you could reasonably get.

Over the years, State governments had to abolish them, but by then it was too late.

will
will
March 4, 2022 8:34 am
calli
calli
March 4, 2022 8:36 am

It was cheaper to live in Queensland too. Great climate if you enjoyed heat, swap your triple fronted texture brick for something a bit more up market, maybe live closer to the beach.

Trouble is when everyone does it. Now my rellies discover their Queensland idyll is increasingly resembling the Sydney suburbia they left behind, without the capital gain.

And they don’t like it.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 4, 2022 8:37 am

Black gold.

Aussie Coal Prices Surge Almost $100 As Countries Seek Alternatives To Russian Energy (4 Mar)

The price of Australian thermal coal has skyrocketed by US$99, or 33 percent, in one day as countries traditionally reliant on Russian coal scramble to secure alternative sources. Newcastle coal, the benchmark for thermal coal in the Asia-Pacific region, ended at US$400 (A$549) per tonne on March 2 after peaking at US$446 per tonne during the day.

Maybe the majors should develop a few more coal mines, with expedited help from Scotty.

Hugh
Hugh
March 4, 2022 8:37 am

Beertruk says:
March 4, 2022 at 8:24 am
From Pauline Hanson’s Please Explain:
Episode 17 “Please Explain Political Campaigning”

Your link did not work for me. See if this works better:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMBIUYiBItk

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 4, 2022 8:37 am

Footy and cricket have consumed you to the point you haven’t been able to fully grasp the world outside.

The world with death camps, pre-fitted with gas piping straight to the showers that not one tradie who installed them has leaked, even to the most retarded conspiracy sites on the net? Righto.

I might just post about cricket and footy all day now. It’s no wonder barrel-stuffers don’t mention them, as they are good at neither.

struth
struth
March 4, 2022 8:37 am

I stand by any comment regarding the enemy of the left’s cultural Marxism and declared evil doers…white men.
There is a reason they fear them and want them gone.
Unfortunately Victoria doesn’t have any left.

Indolent
Indolent
March 4, 2022 8:38 am
Indolent
Indolent
March 4, 2022 8:39 am

This is a letter to the Editor of the Wall Street Journal

The Class Rage Behind Trudeau’s Trucker Emergency

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 4, 2022 8:39 am

johanna:

No, initially, it was to escape State government imposed death duties. Bjelke-Petersen abolished them, and retirees with more than $50 to their name began to consider the advantages of mosquitoes and floods. In fact, it was the genesis of the Gold Coast, it being as close to NSW and as far away from mozzies and floods as you could reasonably get.

Appreciated.

So, you’re saying it wasn’t the Stonecutters coup?

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
March 4, 2022 8:39 am

Resident Evil: The Andrews Curse

Number 7 in the trilogy. The curse results in a state where only zombies remain.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 4, 2022 8:42 am

Only a matter of time before Tickets St. Ruth compares regional Queensland to the rebel Ukrainian provinces.

The Last Holdouts. A sub-tropical Alpine Redoubt.

You know he’ll do it.

calli
calli
March 4, 2022 8:45 am

I knew I shouldn’t trust that kookaburra.

It’s raining again.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
March 4, 2022 8:49 am

Regional Queensland is like the rebel Ukrainian provinces.

struth
struth
March 4, 2022 8:50 am

I suppose when I hit a raw nerve or maybe something you’ve never even thought about regarding yourself you might get all emotional and claim I spoke about gas lines into camps.
You do realise there are level heads that read this?
You guys are the worst but not far behind is WA and SA and as we see, in the midst of some over the top tyranny the forces of evil made sure minds were occupied by footy and cricket. Stadiums allowed to be packed in WA etc.
Why?
Some people follow the rugby up here but it’s not a religion.
That’s one of the best things about living here.
Being able to go somewhere and talk about other things.
The lack of footy zombies incapable of a conversation about anything else.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
March 4, 2022 8:52 am

It’s raining again.

Lucky bastards.

If we don’t get three inches, man,
Or four to break this drought,
We’ll all be rooned,” said Hanrahan,
“Before the year is out.”

Razey
Razey
March 4, 2022 8:57 am

BREAKING: US Senate votes to end COVID-19 national state of emergency

Beertruk
Beertruk
March 4, 2022 8:58 am

Hugh:
March 4, 2022 at 8:37 am

Bugger.
Sorry about that Girls and Lads.
Here.

struth
struth
March 4, 2022 8:59 am

KD.
My comments regards Queensland are only made because an insulated urban Victorian pondered the world beyond Lygon st. He was having difficulty understanding QLD.
I’m just here to help.

Hugh
Hugh
March 4, 2022 9:02 am

Beertruk:
March 4, 2022 at 8:58 am

Scummo’s attempt to weld without a mask was gold!

lotocoti
lotocoti
March 4, 2022 9:09 am

The Cassandra List.
Or at least a list which includes some surprising Cassandras.

Malcolm Fraser, 22nd prime minister of Australia, warned in 2014 that “the move east [by NATO is] provocative, unwise and a very clear signal to Russia”. He adds that this leads to a “difficult and extraordinarily dangerous problem”.

Paul Keating, former Australian PM, in 1997: expanding NATO is “an error which may rank in the end with the strategic miscalculations which prevented Germany from taking its full place in the international system [in early 20th]

Roger
Roger
March 4, 2022 9:11 am

BREAKING

Germany to boycott Russian gas in solidarity with Ukraine.

Roger
Roger
March 4, 2022 9:12 am

As if.

Virtue signalling isn’t supposed to actually cost you anything in terms of money or comfort.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 4, 2022 9:12 am

If we don’t get three inches, man,
Or four to break this drought,
We’ll all be rooned,” said Hanrahan,
“Before the year is out.”

My late father always said that Hanrahan was the patron Saint of marginal area farmers in the Eastern Wheatbelt.

johanna
johanna
March 4, 2022 9:14 am

Re Queensland – it is impossible to generalise because it is so vast and decentralised.

But when, for my sins, I had to read letters to the PM on topics including immigration, there was a disproportionate number of very hateful ones from the backblocks of Queensland. You know, ‘slopes’ and ‘gooks’ and pollution of the white race – that kind of thing. Fortunately, we had permission from the PM’s office to not reply. That was Keating.

When Howard came in, the rules changed. We had to either send a ‘thank you for your letter’ response or even sometimes to engage with these fuckwits. I ended up moving from that job because I couldn’t stand it.

It is one of the nasty secrets of the Howard administration.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
March 4, 2022 9:15 am

We’re going to freeze to death until you do what we say!

ok

Eyrie
Eyrie
March 4, 2022 9:16 am

In what way is Russia going into Ukraine different from the US going into Iraq in 2003?

struth
struth
March 4, 2022 9:18 am

A Canberra public servant grizzling about Queenslanders.
Oh dear……..

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 4, 2022 9:23 am

Did anyone see the Stan Grant Q&A last night?
He appears to have booted an audience member out.”

Is this the Q and A that gave Zaky Mallah a forum? H/T Michael Smith.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 4, 2022 9:26 am

Kyiv defender: ‘I never thought at my age I’d be carrying a gun’
A 67-year-old mathematician picks up his first Kalashnikov and joins the Territorial Defence Force
Catherine Philp, Kyiv
Thursday March 03 2022, 6.00pm GMT, The Times

Loud booms ring out every few minutes from the Ukrainian air defence trying to protect Kyiv. Underneath them, Dr Igor Nesteruk, considers his ill-fitting sheepskin coat.

“What do you think?” says Nesteruk, pivoting for a view. The professor of applied mathematics at Ukraine’s premier research science institute was donated the coat by neighbours when he joined the Territorial Defence Forces last week. “Too unisex?” he asks.

The coat is as new to Nesteruk, 67, as the Kalashnikov slung awkwardly across his body. “I lined up early and got it on the first day of the invasion,” he explains. “I was lucky to get it. They are in short supply now. They don’t give them any more to old men like me.”

Nesteruk may be the oldest volunteer defending the streets of his Kyiv neighbourhood, Tatarka, but far from the most elderly Ukrainian civilian taking up arms in defence of the city.

The Russian invasion saw Ukraine’s armouries opened up to the civilian population, men, women and teenagers, as the Territorial Defence Force, the country’s armed civilian defence against enemy penetration into its cities.

P
P
March 4, 2022 9:31 am

Good News, Casey DeSantis Now Considered ‘Cancer Free’

https://twitter.com/TheLastRefuge2/status/1499494665711767558?cxt=HHwWjMC-xYWdo88pAAAA

JC
JC
March 4, 2022 9:31 am

I had dinner with a former head honcho mining dude the other night. I wasn’t totally focused if it was an individual or a guy that leads a coal mining group he was talking about. He was saying this guy bought a ton of coal assets from the two big miners for a song as they were divesting over recent years.

He’s made a bomb.

P
P
March 4, 2022 9:35 am
johanna
johanna
March 4, 2022 9:35 am

Car fans and collectors news:

You might spend $108,000 on a luxury sports car — but what about an old Commodore?

That’s how much an extremely rare 1979, Holden VH SL/E Commodore went for at Lloyd’s auctions on Saturday.

“It shouldn’t exist but it does, and I’m happy it does, and it broke the record on Saturday,” national classic car manager for Lloyds Auctions Frank Cheney said.

The VH model was produced in Australia from 1981 to 1984. This prototype Commodore has a VB chassis, as that was what Holden had at the time.

The car was discovered in the Wimmera.

“It was in country Victoria under a dusty sheet, the story goes, and then it went on to the open market on Saturday for the first time and broke an auction record, and rightfully so,” Mr Cheney said.

“It was all made by Holden employees, it [had] all handcrafted panels, there was still putty in the boot from where they handcrafted the shape of the car.

and

Another Holden also sold for a record price on Saturday — a 1968 Holden HK Monaro, which fetched a price of $330,000.

Crikey!

Twostix
Twostix
March 4, 2022 9:39 am

Victorians.

Delusional doesn’t even begin to describe it.

Living in North Korea MKII and having the conceited arrogance to mock or pass judgment on anyone.

johanna
johanna
March 4, 2022 9:39 am

JC says:
March 4, 2022 at 9:31 am

I had dinner with a former head honcho mining dude the other night. I wasn’t totally focused if it was an individual or a guy that leads a coal mining group he was talking about. He was saying this guy bought a ton of coal assets from the two big miners for a song as they were divesting over recent years.

He’s made a bomb.

All those institutions and universities and so on who have heeded calls to ‘divest’ from debbil debbil fossil fuel investments have done their shareholders or whoever a great disservice.

Good! 🙂

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 4, 2022 9:41 am

JC, the guys with no debt on those assets are making major bank.
Unfortunately, I know a group that took on debt to do the same & he’s been getting squeezed at 8% in private markets.

Razey
Razey
March 4, 2022 9:41 am

Eyriesays:
March 4, 2022 at 9:16 am
In what way is Russia going into Ukraine different from the US going into Iraq in 2003?

Russian reasons are legitimate. The USA illegal invasion was based on lies.
That’s the difference.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 4, 2022 9:42 am

I knew I shouldn’t trust that kookaburra.

Never trust a creature that literally laughs at you.

Twostix
Twostix
March 4, 2022 9:43 am

You foist Dan Andrews onto this country, you prevent any right wing national parliament ever forming, you are the conduit through which CCP and globo homo influence openly flows into this place.

Fix your shit and be silent.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 4, 2022 9:43 am

Just gonna put on my Waylon Jennings cassette, my blue singlet and enjoy another day on the Cat.

“What? Why didn’t you put it on top of the wardrobe?”

Razey
Razey
March 4, 2022 9:43 am

Twostixsays:
March 4, 2022 at 9:39 am
Victorians.

Delusional doesn’t even begin to describe it.

Living in North Korea MKII and having the conceited arrogance to mock or pass judgment on anyone.

I stood for my and everyone else’s freedom. But no-one stood with me.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 4, 2022 9:44 am

Roger please don’t joke about Russian gas.

johanna
johanna
March 4, 2022 9:47 am

Reading back from last night, I just saw this:

Ikea suspends Russia, Belarus operations

First cat shows, now this. When will it end?

Although I’m not sure that relieving Russkie apartment dwellers of the Agonies of the Allen Key is much of a punishment. And, having tried to understand the instructions rendered from Swedish into English, I hate to think how they would translate into Russian.

P
P
March 4, 2022 9:50 am

Kassam Explains WEF Propaganda on GBNews
(with Mark Steyn – 9:40)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu-ZbKP7xYA

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 4, 2022 9:51 am

johanna at 9:39 – a guy from school made a fortune (literally) from a Bangladesh coal mine divested by one of the majors. No one knows how much he made but he has lived in Chelsea for the last 20 years and has a kid at Timbertop, so I assume he is going alright. Did a geology degree when he couldn’t get into Med.

Cassie of Sydney
March 4, 2022 9:53 am

you prevent any right wing national parliament ever forming,”

What on earth are you talking about here?

Twostix
Twostix
March 4, 2022 9:53 am

Also Johanna.

A Dutchwoman who spent her life leeching off the australian everyman then got driven out of Canberra by the Rudd mass immigration into Canberra and now lives in white outpost “struggle town” Queanbeyan (a normal regional town that Canberra’s make a national sport of sneering at). That she spent her life – up until that point – sneering at and mocking as all good Canberrans do.

Lol.

I remember why JC used to beat you up so much here.

Oh and you used to open mail.

A little bit of Lizzie style embellishing been going on in your posting career, Johanna the Mail Clerk?

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 4, 2022 9:54 am

The biggest buyer of BHP & Rio coal assets.
Glencore.
Making money really is in their DNA.
Forgot what they say publicly.
Watch what they do privately.

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
March 4, 2022 9:56 am

Courtesy of Westprint Maps Friday newsletter.

Friday Funnies

PARAPROSDOKIANS are figures of speech in which the latter part of a sentence or phrase is surprising or unexpected; frequently humorous.

Where there’s a will, I want to be in it.
The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it’s still on my list.
Since light travels faster than sound, some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
If I agreed with you, we’d both be wrong.
Women will never be equal to men until they can walk down the street with a bald head and a beer gut, and still think they are sexy.
You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice.
I’m supposed to respect my elders, but it’s getting harder and harder for me to find one now.

Beertruk
Beertruk
March 4, 2022 9:56 am

Initially, the motivation was for cheap smokes.

And the cheap car rego.
Now, not so much.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
March 4, 2022 9:56 am

The USNavy are going to say they have recovered the plane even if they haven’t to put the choggies and ruskies off the scent.

johanna
johanna
March 4, 2022 9:57 am

I knew I shouldn’t trust that kookaburra.

There was an article at The Conservative Woman (excellent site) recently about kingfishers, and somebody in the comments mentioned that Kookas are kingfishers, and that they eat insects and grubs.

The commenter must have missed the kookas I have seen beating snakes and lizards to death against a tree branch or trunk. I’m told they do it against rocks as well.

It’s amazing how people can get one fact right and the next one completely wrong. How does that happen?

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 4, 2022 9:57 am

There was a window where Glencore were buying so many quality assets from BHP & Rio that they had to sell some of their existing lower quality assets for competition reasons.

Roger
Roger
March 4, 2022 9:57 am

I think we’re past the point of no return here, but…

If you wanted to make Russia even more anti-Western and pro-China you’d do exactly what Western governments and corporates are doing now.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
March 4, 2022 9:58 am

Stix. Feel better now?

Twostix
Twostix
March 4, 2022 10:01 am

Struth’s funny in that he makes some people out their true selves.

It’s weird because he’s never said much that other people aren’t saying. So as I’ve said before it’s not what he’s saying it’s who he is that sends these people into a posting rage.

And if you look it’s always the same type of people that form themselves into little grey cardigan hen pecking posse whenever he arrives.

Cassie of Sydney
March 4, 2022 10:02 am

Rod Marsh has died.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 4, 2022 10:03 am

Rod Marsh has died.

COVID?
Or Russians?
Or Russians with COVID?

johanna
johanna
March 4, 2022 10:03 am

Piss off, twostix. Your description of me is wildly inaccurate, and I have dealt with that crap several times before.

For the record, I am not in receipt of any kind of pension whatsoever, never have been.

It is sad to see someone seething with hate like you are.

srr
srr
March 4, 2022 10:08 am

Nice to hear that Keating didn’t give a shit about the concerns of Australian citizens.

Way to let badly articulated problems fester.

But then he always was ‘above’ the working Aussies he made kick shit up hill against ‘the recession we had to have’.

Mind you, in my attempts to live in Qld (I like my four distinct seasons & that’s the beauty of this uniquely blessed land, we have climates & terrains to suit everyone who wants to make Australia their ‘homeland’), I also experienced a lot of genuinely hateful racists, in the older, heavily accented, German & Dutch communities who came here for our White Australia policy.

Sure, not all Dutch & Germans, just like not all Australians who took themselves North, away from larger populations because war experiences made coping with people in general and some specifically, harder than it is for most.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 4, 2022 10:08 am

If you really want to understand how the world works, this book on Marc Rich is the playbook.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_King_of_Oil

Right now with relation to Russia, there would be hundreds of parties trying to replicate what he did.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 4, 2022 10:08 am

ftb

Unfortunately, I know a group that took on debt to do the same & he’s been getting squeezed at 8% in private markets.

So somebody’s making money then? Can’t expect any help from the ASX, private equity, Mike Canon-Brookes or Holmes a Court types.

P
P
March 4, 2022 10:09 am

RIP Rod Marsh

It was ’81 and a holiday treat for the kids that took us to the SCG for a One Day match, Aus v NZ. From up in the newly completed Brewongle stand we witnessed to our delight Marsh’s bat break and fly through the air.
Memorable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnFNA654WsI&t=139s

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 4, 2022 10:09 am

Rich was one of Clinton’s final pardons.
His ex wife was a friend of Hillary & substantial donor (for the time).

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 4, 2022 10:13 am

Lot, a lot, of money to be made buying assets off governments and big miners. Helps to have some to start. I wasn’t great at taking on risk but happy to look on from the sidelines.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 4, 2022 10:14 am

To put that 8% private market debt into perspective, BHP issued bonds last year at margin of 30bps over the benchmark (the new LIBOR).
That is, BHP issues bonds at a lower margin than most non OECD countries.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 4, 2022 10:17 am

Watching Lillee, Marsh and the West Indies at the WACA in the late 70s as a kid was a great introduction to the game.

bons
bons
March 4, 2022 10:19 am

Regional Queensland is like the rebel Ukrainian provinces.
It is yes, but you have to travel through coastal and central QLD to understand the extraordinary lengths (and expense) that the South Brisbane Government is going to in order to undermine any spirit of regional
individuality.
Control over volunteers, schools of course, small business, arrogant police, regional ‘universities’, Dept of Environment, Waterways & Fisheries, are all tools to repress non-inner city thinking.
The great coup against rural industries and culture was the ‘rationalisation’ of Council boundaries that ensured that most rural council regions were dominated by a regional city populated by Numbers clones with professional council staff as the gestapo.

Bluey
Bluey
March 4, 2022 10:20 am

FMD. The Biden administration has announced they are looking at sanctions on India because they won’t sanction Russia. India now looking to trade directly with Russia in the Ruble, and move away from the dollar.
Stupid like that should hurt, and maybe people would learn something. Going to be interesting what the other BRICS nations do.

Cassie of Sydney
March 4, 2022 10:21 am

“It is sad to see someone seething with hate like you are.”

I can’t stop laughing.

srr
srr
March 4, 2022 10:21 am

What is the purpose of this post –

Cassie of Sydney says:
March 3, 2022 at 8:10 pm
It seems the old bully from Queanbeyan remains obsessed with Lizzie. Perhaps the old bully could get some medical help. What a sad sack.

Seriously.
Can’t people read for themselves and think for themselves?

They have to have a running commentary of who is & isn’t allowed to sit at the cool kids table?

Most complain that they don’t like the personal bitching, but only, it seems, when it’s the targets of some bothering to respond to the bitches.

But what’s really going on is good old fashioned, Social Pressure To Conform To The Mob, which is why they never let up their pressure against those who share views different to the Pressure Mob.

Speedbox
March 4, 2022 10:25 am

News.com.au has this headline this morning:

‘DELUSIONAL’: Putin’s astonishing statement about Ukraine invasion

A “delusional” Vladimir Putin intends to seize the “whole” of Ukraine, according to French President Emmanuel Macron who said he fears the “worst is to come” after a 90-minute phone call with the Russian leader.

For about a week, we at the Cat have been saying Russia must occupy the entire Ukraine but apparently this is fresh news to those at News.com.au.

I thought we should extend a broad ‘professional courtesy’ to News journalists.

Dear News Journalists,

Here are the Cat we have numerous experts in a range of subjects from domestic politics, international events, defence, science, business, law, mining, climate and environment to name just a few. Many of our contributors have significant professional experience in their chosen field and offer their advice and forecasts freely to the Cat.

We invite you to harness this knowledge base in order that your readership be accurately informed on a wide range of local and international events in a timely manner. We believe that our contributors will also balance the systematic partiality inherent in the current reporting format and, as an added bonus, some of our contributors are adept at biting satire which your readership may find thought provoking.

Our contributions are offered free of charge.

Sincerely

The Cat

Bear Necessities
Bear Necessities
March 4, 2022 10:27 am

RIP Bacchus Marsh.

Struth
March 4, 2022 10:27 am

Just gonna put on my Waylon Jennings cassette, my blue singlet and enjoy another day on the Cat.

Like this saying more about them than me, twostix?

Exactly.

It’s not that I’ve been right for most of this…..it’s that I’VE been right for most of this!
A Queenslander (even though I’m more of a Territorian than anything else) a diesel mechanic truckie WHO NEVER EVENT WENT TO UNIVEE…um, univur….um….higher education and mouths off as if I’m a normal member of society!.
The cheek!!!!
Self education by travel and experience through tour driving etc, is now paying off.
(For example, my education stopped me from jabbing myself to death).
Those educated in Australian institutions are at a distinct disadvantage.
It’s an insular experience as well.
It certainly doesn’t broaden your horizons or give you any clue regarding politics and the way the world works.
In fact, quite the reverse, in most cases.

But I also have the ungentlemanly behaviour of not letting the wrongologists off and just moving on, which sends them insane.

Their pigeon holing of people based on bigotry such as above is a display of ignorance and it’s a characteristic predominantly of the collectivist left, but as we can see, is also prevalent amongst those who think they’re right wing, but are actually as “individualist” as the collectivist left.
And as ignorant.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 4, 2022 10:27 am

Cassie of Sydneysays:

March 4, 2022 at 9:53 am

you prevent any right wing national parliament ever forming,”

What on earth are you talking about here?

I think it means, you did not touch the hem of Fat Cloive’s garment as he passed by.

Razey
Razey
March 4, 2022 10:27 am

Top Endersays:
March 4, 2022 at 10:08 am
Jetstar pilot says he is being treated unfairly for losing job while on two murder charges…

But if he had murdered some Russians, he would be a national hero.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 4, 2022 10:27 am

Rural people, especially those with an oxy set and a MIG set, are a problem. Once you live in an apartment even growing a pot of fresh parsley becomes a challenge.

132andBush
132andBush
March 4, 2022 10:31 am

I thought we should extend a broad ‘professional courtesy’ to News journalists.

On the proviso that they will not comment.

We don’t want the standards and tone of the blog lowered.

bons
bons
March 4, 2022 10:34 am

Speaking of QLD regions, I recently had to travel to Yeppoon. A not unpleasant, but nothing town supported by local beach tourism (popular with those who enjoy crocs and stingers), boaties, and regional retirees.
The little dump has the most extraordinary foreshore development of any town that I have seen in Australia.
Various pools, kids water gardens, activities centers, picnic & BBQ facilities, all built to the highest standard.
Fascinated, I started researching to understand how a humpy town can sport Dubai standard facilities.
It appears that the $59m was diverted from Federal cyclone relief funds all arranged by ‘a prominent racing identity with connections to a certain political party’.
Ya gotta love Oz.

johanna
johanna
March 4, 2022 10:35 am

Suck on this, greenies:

The federal Energy Information Administration (EIA) released its Annual Energy Outlook 2022 on Thursday that shows that despite the global war on fossil fuels in the name of climate change, oil and gas will be the most consumed energy source in the United States through 2050.

The report said energy consumption overall is growing:

Energy consumption will increase in the United States over the next 30 years across a variety of economic scenarios as population and economic growth outpace energy efficiency gains, according to our Annual Energy Outlook 2022.

Ahead of the release the agency summarized the key findings of the report, including the domination of oil and gas, with the transportation sector consuming the majority of the fuels, specifically motor gasoline and diesel.

Another key finding is that U.S. crude oil production will reach record highs, while natural gas production will be increasingly driven by natural gas exports around the world:

In the Reference case, we project that U.S. natural gas exports will rise through 2050, primarily driven by increases in liquefied natural gas capacity, global natural gas consumption, and pipeline exports to Mexico and Canada. From 2021 through 2050, we project that U.S. crude oil exports will remain near their projected peak and that they will remain mostly the same in both gross terms and as a percentage of total domestic crude oil production.

Those following the MSM would think that debbil debbil fossil fuels are fast receding as we move into the sunlit uplands of windmills and solar panels.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

I note that coal prices are skyrocketing. You know, those ‘stranded assets’ greenies keep talking about.

Keep talking, eejits, while the wise investor buys coal and oil and gas.

Razey
Razey
March 4, 2022 10:35 am

Struthsays:
March 4, 2022 at 10:27 am
Just gonna put on my Waylon Jennings cassette, my blue singlet and enjoy another day on the Cat.

Like this saying more about them than me, twostix?

Exactly.

It’s not that I’ve been right for most of this…..it’s that I’VE been right for most of this!
A Queenslander (even though I’m more of a Territorian than anything else) a diesel mechanic truckie WHO NEVER EVENT WENT TO UNIVEE…um, univur….um….higher education and mouths off as if I’m a normal member of society!.

Having worked in construction, doing both engineering design and also running men on the tools, I can say that in my experience having a ‘Uni degree’ is no indicator of intelligence.

Roger
Roger
March 4, 2022 10:36 am

A “delusional” Vladimir Putin intends to seize the “whole” of Ukraine, according to French President Emmanuel Macron who said he fears the “worst is to come” after a 90-minute phone call with the Russian leader.

Assuming the translator got it right – and wars have been started over mistranslations – and Macron is not lying, if I were a Russian oligarch I’d be thinking it’s time for Vlad to retire to his dacha in Sochi.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
March 4, 2022 10:36 am

Oh come onsays:
March 4, 2022 at 3:20 am
Our tax dollars at work:

Q+A host Stan Grant asks pro-Russian audience member to leave the studio after Ukraine claim

It really is as disgraceful as the headline suggests. The booted audience member made a verifiable claim* that was too anti-Narrative, and sTan got the vapours then kicked him out.

Heres the exchange.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/mar/04/qa-audience-member-booted-from-studio-after-asking-pro-russia-rogue-question

The young man, Sasha Gillies-Lekakis, had asked a “rogue” question, Grant said, although Gillies-Lekakis later said it had been vetted by the ABC except for a few added words. It prompted shouts of “lies” from the audience on Thursday night.

“As someone who comes from the Russian community here in Australia, I’ve been pretty outraged by the narrative created by our media depicting the Ukraine as ‘the good guy’ and Russia as ‘the bad guy’,” Gillies-Lekakis said.

“Believe it or not, there are a lot of Russians here and around the world that support what Putin is doing in the Ukraine, myself included. Since 2014, the Ukrainian government together with Nazi groups like the Azov Battalion have besieged the Russian populations in the Donbas killing an estimated 13,000 people according to the United Nations.

“My question is: where was your outpouring of grief and concern for those thousands of mostly Russians?”

An audience member interjected with “That’s a lie” and “Don’t do this, it’s propaganda” before Grant tried to clarify the figures involved.

“The United Nations has listed 13,000 total people killed since the conflict, but you’re trying to suggest that is Russians killed by Ukrainians,” Grant said. “The United Nations has pointed out there is 13,000 killed since the conflict began in 2014.”

After a brief discussion, the program moved on to other issues including the floods in New South Wales and Queensland but a visibly unnerved Grant returned to address the young man later in the show.

“Something has been bothering me, I have to admit, since we had Sasha’s question earlier about Russia, and it’s been playing on my mind,” Grant said.
“Sasha, people here have been talking about family who are suffering and people who are dying. You supported what’s happening, hearing that people are dying. Can I just say – I’m just not comfortable with you being here. Could you please leave?”

But Gillies-Lekakis did not want to leave and protested.

Grant said: “You can ask a question but we cannot advocate violence. I should have asked you to leave then. It’s been playing on my mind and, I’m sorry, but I have to ask you to leave.”

The audience applauded Grant’s stance and, while Gillies-Lekakis initially resisted, he did leave while the camera stayed on Grant.

Grant apologised for the disruption.

“It was not a vetted question,” he said. “It was a question that was, you know, a rogue question, if you like. It’s not good to exclude people, but we have to take those steps from time to time.”

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 4, 2022 10:39 am

We don’t want the standards and tone of the blog lowered.

That’s our job.

local oaf
March 4, 2022 10:40 am

When Howard came in, the rules changed. We had to either send a ‘thank you for your letter’ response or even sometimes to engage with these fuckwits. I ended up moving from that job because I couldn’t stand it.

Johnny clearly learnt from Maggie,

Mrs Thatcher has read your enquiry with interest but it will not be part of official Conservative Party policy, though we are sympathetic to your cause.

/D&C

Struth
March 4, 2022 10:40 am

Johanna.
If you’d had the sort of education I have had, a very superior education than most (in the important subjects) You’d never make stupid comments about the racists of Queensland.
You have learned history for your tour driving job and you’d know by having all nationalities aboard your tour coach/4wd truck etc, that we are the least racist people on earth.
Maybe those Queenslanders had a point.
In the real world, Asians detest other slightly different looking asians and think they are superior to whites and detest blacks.
Almost fear them, generally speaking.
The blacks hate whites, the blacks hate asians, the Germans have fucking great chips on their shoulders, the French think they are above everyone else, and then there’s the groups that keep business amongst themselves and only marry amongst themselves like Italians and in some cases Jews.
And I’m married to one.
Greeks, Turks, on it fucking goes. Sand monkeys and infidels.
The Mexicans and the blacks don’t see eye to eye.
You know, maybe, looking back, those Queenslanders may have had a point, and we are in the shit we are in precisely because of anti white public servants like yourself.
All cultures are not equal and I’m sick to fucking death of public servants dismissing those white people paying their wages as some back water freaks.
Fuck you.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 4, 2022 10:41 am

“It was not a vetted question,

Sshhhh…you said the quiet part out aloud !

Bluey
Bluey
March 4, 2022 10:41 am

thefrollickingmole

We only take approved opinions comrade. To the gulag with you.

Roger
Roger
March 4, 2022 10:42 am

“Something has been bothering me, I have to admit, since we had Sasha’s question earlier about Russia, and it’s been playing on my mind,” Grant said.

The producer was in his ear piece.

Speedbox
March 4, 2022 10:42 am

Roger says:
March 4, 2022 at 9:57 am
I think we’re past the point of no return here, but…
If you wanted to make Russia even more anti-Western and pro-China you’d do exactly what Western governments and corporates are doing now.

100%. Startling isn’t it.

CharlieP
CharlieP
March 4, 2022 10:43 am

Re Bons comment at 10.34am.
A similar amount spent on some rather hideous street landscaping down from the NGV towards the ABC headquarters off St Kilda Rd in Vicdanistan. Yeppoon might have got better value for money, for things that will actually be used. Corruption isn’t always bad…

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 4, 2022 10:43 am

Therefore, all questions on Q&A are vetted (which we already know).
But the ABC always tries to weasel out of this.
“We can’t help what people ask”.
Example, the David Hicks gotcha with Howard.
Or the ABC reverting to a wide shot just before the shoe throwing incident.

rickw
rickw
March 4, 2022 10:44 am

“It was not a vetted question,” he said. “It was a question that was, you know, a rogue question, if you like. It’s not good to exclude people, but we have to take those steps from time to time.”

A lesson in modern political discourse.

EvilElvis
EvilElvis
March 4, 2022 10:45 am

When Howard came in, the rules changed. We had to either send a ‘thank you for your letter’ response or even sometimes to engage with these fuckwits. I ended up moving from that job because I couldn’t stand it.

Good to know what public servants think of constituents, even the shit ones. Does any public servant ever wonder why they are like that when engaging with politicians or the PS in general?

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 4, 2022 10:45 am

Nothing worse than having a Punch & Judy show run off script.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
March 4, 2022 10:45 am

I thought this was a bit weird.

Grant said: “You can ask a question but we cannot advocate violence.

I didnt see any “violence’in that question unless it was to the narrative.
Isnt the whole idea of the show to air views and debate them?

My violence isnt violence, your words are!

Digger
Digger
March 4, 2022 10:47 am

Russian reasons are legitimate. The USA illegal invasion was based on lies.
That’s the difference.

If you believe Russia has not and is not lying, I have a bridge you may want to purchase…

Perhaps you can enlighten us then.
Can you point to the UN Security Council resolution that authorised the Russian invasion of Ukraine as was supposedly required for the US and coalition members to legally invade Iraq?

If it was required in Iraq, why is it not required in Ukraine?

“Therefore, in the absence of an armed attack against the US or the coalition members, any legal use of force, or any legal threat of the use of force, had to be supported by a UN security Council resolution authorizing member states to use force against Iraq.”

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 4, 2022 10:49 am

The producer was in his ear piece.

Don’t upset the hive.

rickw
rickw
March 4, 2022 10:51 am

If you wanted to make Russia even more anti-Western and pro-China you’d do exactly what Western governments and corporates are doing now.

Forever Wars.

Razey
Razey
March 4, 2022 10:51 am
Eyrie
Eyrie
March 4, 2022 10:51 am

If it was required in Iraq, why is it not required in Ukraine?

Because it was a mere fig leaf. Obviously. Just a pretext.

Cassie of Sydney
March 4, 2022 10:51 am

“You can ask a question but we cannot advocate violence.”

And of course the person asking the question wasn’t advocating violence. It was a revealing response from Grant and one that now represents the West to a tee now. If you dare to speak up against the prevailing narratives and dictates, then your language is deemed “hateful” and “violent” in order to silence you. It is akin to World War I and II censorship.

Roger
Roger
March 4, 2022 10:52 am

Grant said: “You can ask a question but we cannot advocate violence.”

Needless to say I don’t watch Q&A, but I’m curious if there was any discussion or approval of Australia sending $70m worth of missiles and ammunition to a foreign government that is reportedly handing weapons out to civilians?

Struth
March 4, 2022 10:52 am

All letters to ministers must be responded to.
Unless it’s a Labor minister?

Razey
Razey
March 4, 2022 10:52 am

Violence is required when reason fails.

cohenite
March 4, 2022 10:54 am

Good Tom’s toons most noting the connection between the biden cadaver’s energy policies and putin and iran.

In other news more evidence of the election fraud:

Zuckerbucks at Work: 91 Nursing Homes in 5 Wisconsin Cities Had 95% to 100% Voter Turnout Rates – They Abused Disabled Seniors and Stole Their Votes

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 4, 2022 10:55 am

It’s not that I’ve been right for most of this…..it’s that I’VE been right for most of this!

Still waiting for you to produce your evidence that DeATh CaMpS were being built on day one of ‘Two Weeks to Flatten the Curve,’ Manlet.

And repeatedly squealing that you said all along they were AnNoUnCeD! REeeeeeEE Communist Koala C9mrade Choo Choo Manz! doesn’t count.

A Queenslander (even though I’m more of a Territorian than anything else) a diesel mechanic truckie WHO NEVER EVENT WENT TO UNIVEE…um, univur….um….higher education and mouths off as if I’m a normal member of society!.

You don’t have to be educated to be a fool…
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Cats, hurry up and give this man your upticks. You’ve only given him about 25 or so this morning, and he needs at least 90 to feel validated. If you have to, refresh-spam the page so the man gets his quota of upticks and he can carry on with his day.* Otherwise you’re in for a repeat of yesterday, and our darling Glass-Jawed Manlet is more monomanic and mindlessly argumentative than old Numbers Bob…

* And that goes for all you lurkers out there who like watching me get kicked for disagreeing with the Nuffier elements of the zeitgeist here, too! Do your part!

132andBush
132andBush
March 4, 2022 10:56 am

I’m not racist.
I don’t care who shoots ’em.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 4, 2022 10:58 am

The commenter must have missed the kookas I have seen beating snakes and lizards to death against a tree branch or trunk. I’m told they do it against rocks as well.

Mine beat dead cows to death. Sometimes on the hand of a live human. Kookas are eccentric.

Bluey
Bluey
March 4, 2022 10:58 am

Diggersays:
March 4, 2022 at 10:47 am
Russian reasons are legitimate. The USA illegal invasion was based on lies.
That’s the difference.

If you believe Russia has not and is not lying, I have a bridge you may want to purchase…

Perhaps you can enlighten us then.
Can you point to the UN Security Council resolution that authorised the Russian invasion of Ukraine as was supposedly required for the US and coalition members to legally invade Iraq?

If it was required in Iraq, why is it not required in Ukraine?

“Therefore, in the absence of an armed attack against the US or the coalition members, any legal use of force, or any legal threat of the use of force, had to be supported by a UN security Council resolution authorizing member states to use force against Iraq.”

Echos of Iraq if the recent statement that Russian intelligence reckons Ukraine were developing nukes with the assistance of the US are remotely true. Only seen that only telegram chats though, so who knows.

Gab
Gab
March 4, 2022 10:59 am

Incase anyone is interested.

https://parliament.vic.gov.au/video-and-audio/live-broadcasting

Like watching a pit of vipers and snakes fighting each other for no reason other than ego.

Struth
March 4, 2022 10:59 am

Still doing fuck all, comrade?
How very railways of you.

Let us sing.

OOOOOOOOH, you can’t touch me I’m part of the Union….

No, with more of a Northern Pommie accent please…
Start again.

OOOOOOOOOOh, you can’t tooch me ‘ Im parrrt of the youneeeon…

much better.

jupes
jupes
March 4, 2022 10:59 am

Since 2014, the Ukrainian government together with Nazi groups like the Azov Battalion have besieged the Russian populations in the Donbas killing an estimated 13,000 people according to the United Nations.

Right. So if and when the Azov Battalion goes into action against the Russians, our government is literally supporting Nazis.

Where is the journalist to put that fact to SloMo and his government?

cohenite
March 4, 2022 11:01 am
Boambee John
Boambee John
March 4, 2022 11:05 am

Re STan, what did the Q & A advertising say some years ago (haven’t even channel surfed if for so long, I can’t remember when)? “Where you get to ask the questions”?

But only the ones that Their ABC approves.

jupes
jupes
March 4, 2022 11:05 am

Devastating news about Rod Marsh. Australia and Western Australia’s wicketkeeper during my youth, I watched him play many times at the WACA (and Gabba). Caught Marsh bowled Lillee was the most common mode of dismissal at the time. Just sad.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 4, 2022 11:05 am

Nobody mention Rod Marsh’s death.

It will upset St. Ruth of Wordwall, who is busy writing thank you letters to his new Governor, Jeannette Young, who closed Quenthland schools to teach people a lesson, and who was appointed by a Government Quenthlanders voted in.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 4, 2022 11:08 am

I said:

You don’t have to be educated to be a fool…

The Glass-Jawed Manlet said:

Still doing fuck all, comrade?
How very railways of you.

I am sorry that my presence on this blog, Struth, causes you to spontaneously shatter your veneer of Heroikly Speekin’ Troof Ter Powah and revert to being a toddler.

Would some more upticks soothe your psychic pain?

Also, you have a standing invite to come West when all this business is over. For as I said to JC yesterday, during the nearest thing to the total supply chain failure (that you wanted us to all experience) that happened in January this year, I tried to experiment with creating my own mayonnaise.

I had no problem finding eggs, but could not find any Vegetable Oil. I found a suitable press, though, and I think it would fit you perfectly… 🙂

jupes
jupes
March 4, 2022 11:09 am

Pilger defends wussia and putin.

It’s a very strange world indeed when one finds oneself in general agreement with John Pilger.

johanna
johanna
March 4, 2022 11:12 am

EvilElvis says:
March 4, 2022 at 10:45 am

When Howard came in, the rules changed. We had to either send a ‘thank you for your letter’ response or even sometimes to engage with these fuckwits. I ended up moving from that job because I couldn’t stand it.

Good to know what public servants think of constituents, even the shit ones. Does any public servant ever wonder why they are like that when engaging with politicians or the PS in general?

You have no idea how revolting those letters were. None.

We are not talking about discussion here. We are talking about suggestions about how ‘gooks’ and ‘chinks’ and other undesirables should be fed into woodchippers and used to fertilise the fields of ‘white Australians.’

‘Thank you for your letter?’

No.

132andBush
132andBush
March 4, 2022 11:13 am

A quote from Emerald Grains’ daily update.

“Export demand for Australian origin supply is immense as we are well positioned to fill open supply gaps, with wheat and canola being the most sought after commodities.”

The dollar is rising as a result which is taking some shine off but overall it’s happy days.

Not sure how Australia can fill supply gaps when our handling facilities and infrastructure are maxxed out already.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 4, 2022 11:13 am

I forgot to ask Struth,

How is it you know union culture so well?

Do you guiltily hide a TWU Member Card and T-shirt under your mattress in the same way a guilty schoolboy stashes his Maxims and Pictures?

That’s not very Road-Warriorish of you…

cohenite
March 4, 2022 11:15 am

Why people are siding with putin against a decadent US:

https://spectator.com.au/2022/03/what-happens-to-australia-if-pax-americana-fails/

This would not have happened if Trump had not had his election stolen, which is part of that decadence.

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