Open Thread – Weekend 5 March 2022


Golden Autumn, Isaak Levitan, late 1800s

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Ed Case
Ed Case
March 6, 2022 6:19 pm

The Saker is back up:
http://thesaker.is/day-10-of-the-russian-special-operation-in-banderastan/
Thunderstorm just hit Brisbane.

Roger
Roger
March 6, 2022 6:22 pm

There are literally no good outcomes from this Ukraine misadventure.
Unless you are a military contractor servicing the Washington War Machine.

Joke doing the rounds:

Remember when liberals said Trump would ruin the economy & start WWIII?

They were off by one president.

bespoke
bespoke
March 6, 2022 6:23 pm

jupessays:
March 6, 2022 at 6:02 pm
What part, jupes?

Trade, travel or diplomatic cooperation.

Trade first then the others follow.

Cheers. While I think it all needs reset, it is not practical to do away with any.
Haven said that, even a reset will just start the cycle all over again. To many people think progress is linear.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 6, 2022 6:25 pm

There are literally no good outcomes from this Ukraine misadventure.
Unless you are a military contractor servicing the Washington War Machine.

Arabs with lots of oil are probably quite happy right now.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 6, 2022 6:30 pm

Watching Wind River again.
Great movie.

Reminded me of what Gavin McInnes said a few weeks ago.
His wife & kids are part of some Native American tribe.
As soon as you get any money, you move off the reservation.
The reason being that reservations are magnets for rapes & assaults and people go missing all the time.
The missing people are presumed murdered.
The reason being, that unless there’s murder or kidnapping, the crimes are investigated by the reservation police.
Which means that reservations attract people who know what crimes they can get away with.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 6, 2022 6:32 pm

Georgia is conventionally regarded as a transcontinental country.

And Turkey.

miltonf
miltonf
March 6, 2022 6:33 pm

Spot on Rex

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 6, 2022 6:34 pm

I’m old enough to remember when only people & organisations got cancelled & de-platformed.
Now it happens to whole countries.

miltonf
miltonf
March 6, 2022 6:35 pm

Rex- pretty exciting that the Adani project is happening despite the best efforts of assorted wreckers

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 6, 2022 6:36 pm

Andrei Martyanov’s blog:
http://smoothiex12.blogspot.com

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 6, 2022 6:36 pm

BTW, how is Georgia a part of Europe?

Georgia would be happy to be part of Ethiopia if that was what it took to keep the Russians out. Anyway there’s plenty of weird arrangements, like New Caledonia being part of France. Or Kaliningrad part of Russia.

There’re also a few useful geopolitical advantages. Like Georgia being a pipeline head on a decent Black Sea port. Which theoretically gets you oil and gas to the EU from the Azeris without having to go through either Turkey or Russia. Some say Georgia has golden fleeces too, although I suspect it’s more likely to have fleecers of gold.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 6, 2022 6:37 pm

The Arabs with oil are more concerned about Russia & the US colluding to remove all the Iran sanctions.
Meaning they’ll be on the hook for more US hardware.
In perpetuity.

Roger
Roger
March 6, 2022 6:38 pm

Like Russia.

Yes, like Russia.

Only they’re not pining for EU membership.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 6, 2022 6:40 pm

Rex- pretty exciting that the Adani project is happening despite the best efforts of assorted wreckers

It is.

And Adani, by paying for their own line have avoided the risk of getting screwed by Aurizon, the private owners of practically the entire Queensland coal basin network.

One suspects that after the incredible efforts they have undergone, they will be far better corporate neighbours to the region and its people than any of the incumbents.

JC
JC
March 6, 2022 6:44 pm

feelthebernsays:
March 6, 2022 at 6:34 pm
I’m old enough to remember when only people & organisations got cancelled & de-platformed.
Now it happens to whole countries.

The existence of the Euro Dollar market ( Dollars held in European/UK banks) was because the Soviets and its satellites at the time were concerned that the US would seize their holdings if they were held with US banks in the US. They had protection because it was then unthinkable that the Europeans would seize the Dollar holdings in case of a Cold War related dispute. Now, nothing is safe anywhere.
Mastercard and Visa have just suspended operations in Russia.

miltonf
miltonf
March 6, 2022 6:44 pm

yep- new standard gauge line too

JC
JC
March 6, 2022 6:46 pm

There are literally no good outcomes from this Ukraine misadventure.
Unless you are a military contractor servicing the Washington War Machine.

Texas based oil patch land holdings. There is going to be an absolute fucking scramble I think.

Rabz
March 6, 2022 6:46 pm

Greetings, cats.

Enjoying some Pizza after last night’s shenanigans. 🙂

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 6, 2022 6:50 pm

Thanks for hosting the party, Rabz, it was fun.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
March 6, 2022 6:52 pm

The thermomix et al, are a surrogate penis for the culinary barren

Oh thank heavens Carpe Jugulum that little bit of information has really brightened my day, at my age I was wondering recently if just one is enough.

Bluey
Bluey
March 6, 2022 6:55 pm

Just went for a stroll and found a residential construction project with a very prominent UAP sign facing a major road.
Talking to a tradie mate he reckons that is the sort of player who would formerly been a rusted on CFMEU/labor. Such a prominent support of UAP could be a very bad sign for Labor.

Rabz
March 6, 2022 6:58 pm

Such prominent support of UAP could be a very bad sign for Labor

Good.

JC
JC
March 6, 2022 6:59 pm

That autistic little Swedish young cow came out in support of Ukraine. Auty Greta has been the face of climate gerbling and therefore energy insecurity across the West. She basically had a hand in causing this war because if the West was energy secure the Russian dickhead wouldn’t have moved. What a nerve of the little tart.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
March 6, 2022 6:59 pm

FTB: Wind River is a good movie. Have watched a couple of times. Some good scenes.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 6, 2022 7:02 pm

yep- new standard gauge line too

Not quite- Just before the first rail was laid, Adani/Bowen changed their minds and went with Cape Gauge.

Having said that, they are running 22 or 23t axle loads and necked-down Standard Gauge locomotives, which is previously unknown for Cape Gauge rail in Australia. These EMD GT46CU-ACe Gen IIIs are almost completely mechanically identical to the existing Standard Gauge GT46C-ACe Gen I and IIs in Australian intermodal and coal service. Except for the track gauge, smaller cab and shorter hood. 23t is the sort of stuff you see in South Africa.

Trains on Cape Gauge in Queensland and WA are deemed ‘heavy’ at 19t per axle. And the vast majority of Queensland’s regional network is still governed at 15.75t.

JC
JC
March 6, 2022 7:03 pm

The Russians will only go in if they become client states of the US/NATO. That is more true now than before.

I don’t get your logic Dover. These states were under the Soviet jackboot for 70 odd years. The Soviets moved on satellite states progressively through the Cold Ward and they were treated like shit. Once the yoke was yanked how could you not expect them to try and receive cover from the West. Why wouldn’t they after what they’ve been through historically?

custard
custard
March 6, 2022 7:04 pm

Greta has caused the energy crisis across the world.

People in power should suffer a big sanction for allowing this.

calli
calli
March 6, 2022 7:06 pm

I forgot one, Rabz.

And it was Mardi Gras and all!

JC
JC
March 6, 2022 7:08 pm

And fuck agreements made 30 years ago. Agreements can’t be perpetual. Also if you’re looking for balance in the sense of we shouldn’t have double standards. That’s not how statecraft works. Putin has been talking about MRGA for 20 fucking years. Making Russia Great Again meant they/he would again attempt to move these states in to the Russian sphere.

Also, Russian Oil&Gas has been pushing propaganda and funding anti-fossil fuel green groups in the west in order to create choke points. That’s what they have been doing. Fuck the Russians. They are hostile, de-stabilizing kunts.

miltonf
miltonf
March 6, 2022 7:11 pm

@Rex – narrow gauge sorry with EMD locos

JC
JC
March 6, 2022 7:11 pm

According to a pal, who went to a dinner with Putin over a decade ago. Putin has very tiny hands and perfectly manicured finger nails. He’s a wanker.

Rabz
March 6, 2022 7:13 pm

Thanks, BoN – there were some serious omissions last night, which I’m actually very embarrassed about. The Cure, the Pretenders, Siouxsie and the Cocteau Twins, for example.

Next month’s radio show is on April 2 – polling for a theme here, Cats:
.1 Soul/Motown
.2 FIFA*
.3 Disco
.4 The Sixties
5. Rap**

The most votes takes it all, peoples. New Wave beat Soul/Motown by three votes to two last time, so I’m hoping for some more enthusiasm.

*Yes, I buy the disc every year – 40 free songs, most of them unavailable to the general public, what’s not to like? It has gifted us some absolute classics, such as this and this.

**A polarising one, for a change.

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 6, 2022 7:14 pm

Once the yoke was yanked how could you not expect them to try and receive cover from the West. Why wouldn’t they after what they’ve been through historically?

Those Asian States became independent, but the leadership didn’t change.
It’s still the same families in Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, all the rest, except they want to be vassal states of the US now.

JC
JC
March 6, 2022 7:16 pm

Bugger off , Mr. Ed. I don’t want a Queersland idiot ruining my train of thought. Go pick a banana.

Makka
Makka
March 6, 2022 7:17 pm

He’s down to about half a dozen close advisers.

If that. I’d say 3 who he really listens to and acts on; Patrushev,Naryshkin and Shoigu.

Their careers and survival has been based on telling Vlad what he wants to hear. Not good, not at all.

miltonf
miltonf
March 6, 2022 7:17 pm

According to a pal, who went to a dinner with Putin over a decade ago. Putin has very tiny hands and perfectly manicured finger nails. He’s a wanker.

maybe but I like him better than the old thief and I’m sure he doesn’t poo his pants and doesn’t try to impose gender fluidity on the population

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 6, 2022 7:17 pm

Expect it’s been a while since Poot has done his own dirty work. He’s management now.

srr
srr
March 6, 2022 7:17 pm

miltonf says:
March 6, 2022 at 4:51 pm
Oh, and reading books to kiddies in the public library all glammed up.

I wonder where that particular abomination was thought up? The US I suspect.

The UN has been Funding & Promoting that along with all other manner of early childhood sexualisation.

This of course means very many people around the world make a killing of a living selling it and more again in the spin off industries of Abortion & Big Baby Parts

Comprehensive Sexuality Education Materials –
[click through them and see just what K-12 kids are being taught to do as ‘good, healthy & normal’]
https://www.comprehensivesexualityeducation.org/cse-materials-index/

It’s All One
Supported by UNFPA and UNESCO

CLICK TO VIEW:
Harm Analysis
Harmful content examples:
https://www.comprehensivesexualityeducation.org/cse-materials-index/its-all-one/

Rabz
March 6, 2022 7:19 pm

It’s still the same families in Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, all the rest, except they want to be vassal states of the US now

Of course. I was wondering about the concept chewing at me this morning while preparing breakfast.

Bluddee hell, peoples – thank goodness for those li’l mythical red lines – a sentence above as originally scrawled: “wondering about the concept chweing at me this morning while preapring breajfats” 😕

JC
JC
March 6, 2022 7:20 pm

maybe but I like him better than the old thief and I’m sure he doesn’t poo his pants and doesn’t try to impose gender fluidity on the population

Why not simply dislike them for different reasons. Also, Putin is the biggest thief in the world. He’s the richest man in the world and didn’t achieve this by heading up a tech company in Silicon Valley. He’s worth over US$200 billion dollars by strong arming the oligarchs.

miltonf
miltonf
March 6, 2022 7:23 pm

Also, Putin is the biggest thief in the world.

if you say so but I find NOTHING admirable about the US establishment 2022.

bespoke
bespoke
March 6, 2022 7:23 pm

Why not simply dislike them for different reasons.

Exactly.

JC
JC
March 6, 2022 7:23 pm

Look, there’s huge risk here. If the Russian kunt thinks he’s going to lose his top spot at the Krem, it wouldn’t be a zero proposition that he’s try to nuke it out with Europe. The only saving grace would be if the Russian generals refuse his order.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 6, 2022 7:23 pm

“wondering about the concept chweing at me this morning while preapring breajfats”

MasterChef wanker.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Fair Shake says: March 6, 2022 at 6:59 pm

FTB: Wind River is a good movie. Have watched a couple of times. Some good scenes.

You get to see Kelly Chow with no pants on. Some really good footage of her naked ass.

Speedbox
March 6, 2022 7:23 pm

JC says:
March 6, 2022 at 7:11 pm
According to a pal, who went to a dinner with Putin over a decade ago. Putin has very tiny hands……

In part, that may be because he is only a relatively short man. About 5’6″ (168cm) although some say he is slightly shorter (5’5″). Not dwarf like but a few inches below the average.

JC
JC
March 6, 2022 7:24 pm

if you say so but I find NOTHING admirable about the US establishment 2022.

Okay.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 6, 2022 7:24 pm

Georgia would be happy to be part of Ethiopia if that was what it took to keep the Russians out.

The Russians will only go in if they become client states of the US/NATO. That is more true now than before.

Haha, good joke. The birthplace of the revered Josef V. Stalin? Of course Vladimir III Tsar of All Russians wants the place. If he successfully takes Ukraine what’s he going to do, stop and retire to his farm on the Tiber?

Rabz
March 6, 2022 7:24 pm

In defence of good ol (largely peaceful) Rap.

Fight the Power …

May have to resurrect this as an anthem about the last two years of fascist idiocy.

Massive clocks hung around the neck being optional.

Yo, G! 🙂

rickw
rickw
March 6, 2022 7:25 pm

Principles for Dealing with the Changing World Order by Ray Dalio

Very worthwhile.

Roger
Roger
March 6, 2022 7:25 pm

Thanks, BoN – there were some serious omissions last night, which I’m actually very embarrassed about. The Cure, the Pretenders, Siouxsie and the Cocteau Twins, for example.

I’ll bet Television didn’t get a look in either?

Marquee Moon is a brilliant album, especially if you’re a guitarist.

Anyway, Soul/Motown…and as it’s Australia my second preference would be The Sixties.

Makka
Makka
March 6, 2022 7:26 pm

Also, Putin is the biggest thief in the world.

He’s taken a vig off some reprehensible thieves. The c***s who have stolen our liberties and freedoms are by far the biggest thieves.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 6, 2022 7:26 pm

We know so little about what is now going on in Ukraine or Russia.
All we know is that Russian gas keeps flowing west.
And that Russia & the US are in the final stages of the Iranian agreement.
Everything else is pure guesswork.

JC
JC
March 6, 2022 7:27 pm

Brucie

Don’t ruin what looks like the beginning of a good discussion with your cognitive dissonance. It’s not appreciated. Move along or go to bed.

miltonf
miltonf
March 6, 2022 7:28 pm

As I said before, the US is no longer a source of good- wars and cultural marxism seem to be its forte now.

Rabz
March 6, 2022 7:29 pm

JC says: March 6, 2022 at 6:59 pm

Saying what needs to be said.

The West, such as it is, has lost its collective marbles.

miltonf
miltonf
March 6, 2022 7:30 pm

We know so little about what is now going on in Ukraine or Russia.
All we know is that Russian gas keeps flowing west.
And that Russia & the US are in the final stages of the Iranian agreement.
Everything else is pure guesswork.

true- I actually get my information here

JC
JC
March 6, 2022 7:30 pm

Makka..

That may be true – I don’t know if it’s as bad as you make out but I’m happy to accept your comment as reasonable. There are opportunities to get rid of these fuckers in the West. You can’t in Russia, and if you try the prick will try to poison you and if that doesn’t work, he’ll stick you in jail on a made up charge.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 6, 2022 7:32 pm

wouldn’t be a zero proposition that he’s try to nuke it out with Europe.

This is the biggest risk.
So people cheering on Russia “losing” and Ukraine “winning” are in fact supporting the clearest path to a nuclear conflict.
If Putin loses, he’s a dead man walking.
Meaning he’s going down swinging, ie nukes.

JC
JC
March 6, 2022 7:32 pm

Rabz says:
March 6, 2022 at 7:29 pm

JC says: March 6, 2022 at 6:59 pm

Saying what needs to be said.

The West, such as it is, has lost its collective marbles.

30% of the west’s population should be sectioned. That’s true. Another 20% are slaves to the MSM and brainwashed by leftwing bullshit. 50% though are fully awake and aware of the crap going on.

rickw
rickw
March 6, 2022 7:33 pm

Fuck the Russians. They are hostile, de-stabilizing kunts.

But how fucking stupid do the Eurotards need to be to fall into the Russian “trap”?!

Every the fucking Mongs running Australia have been mildly concerned about energy security for a while.

Rabz
March 6, 2022 7:34 pm

Marquee Moon

It’s one of my favourite songs, Rog, but it missed last night’s window. Just.

One of the most obvious things about it is the commercial appeal. “All singles should be at least eleven minutes long”, said no fat coked out A&R imbecile, evah. 😕

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 6, 2022 7:34 pm

Credits rolling.
I didn’t know Nick Cave composed the score to Wind River.

miltonf
miltonf
March 6, 2022 7:36 pm

There are opportunities to get rid of these fuckers in the West. You can’t in Russia, and if you try the prick will try to poison you and if that doesn’t work, There are opportunities to get rid of these fuckers in the West. You can’t in Russia, and if you try the prick will try to poison you and if that doesn’t work, he’ll stick you in jail on a made up charge.

They stole an election in the US in 2020
Antifa beat up and killed opponents of the US establishment- with NO penalty
People are in jail in DC for opposing the steal
People in the US actually recite their belief the Biden won legitimately to get the dogs of them

jupes
jupes
March 6, 2022 7:36 pm

Greta has caused the energy crisis across the world.

No. She has been used by the fuckers that did. That being said, the gall of the bint to now take sides in a war that was largely caused by energy policies that she championed.

The fact the world appears to give a fuck what a teenage bint reckons about such an important issue, proves we are living through the most embarrassing time in history.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 6, 2022 7:37 pm

I reckon your numbers are a tad wrong JC.
I reckon it’s 90% you wouldn’t feed.
9% are inquisitive.
1% enlightened.

jupes
jupes
March 6, 2022 7:38 pm

Every the fucking Mongs running Australia have been mildly concerned about energy security for a while.

Really? They don’t appear to have done anything about it.

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 6, 2022 7:38 pm

Makka..
That may be true – I don’t know if it’s as bad as you make out but I’m happy to accept your comment as reasonable.

I’m not.
Makka is an ever bigger shill for the US State Department lies than Bruce, Rex Franger and yourself put together.
Forget bunkers, Chinese Tyres and Molotov Cocktails vs Tanks, the Ukrainian Air Force is rubble, their Army can’t win and Zelenskyy hightailed it to Poland the day of the invasion.

miltonf
miltonf
March 6, 2022 7:38 pm

The fact that Putin is ex KGB suggests he would know a fair bit about Soviet dirty tricks eg Greenham common.

Frank
Frank
March 6, 2022 7:39 pm

The Cathedral of the Russian Armed Forces, just outside Moscow, consecrated in 2020.

That place is astonishing.

Rabz
March 6, 2022 7:39 pm

Grate – the torrential downpours have returned – again. Currently doing their best to drown out the remainder of good ol’ Marquee Moon.

bespoke
bespoke
March 6, 2022 7:40 pm

Need to factor in the % of people understandably sick of the circus.

miltonf
miltonf
March 6, 2022 7:41 pm

I am very fucking pissed off with what has happened in the US and now they’re ginning up for the war that the Washington War Machine wants.

Speedbox
March 6, 2022 7:42 pm

JC says:
March 6, 2022 at 7:23 pm
Look, there’s huge risk here……it wouldn’t be a zero proposition that he’s try to nuke it out with Europe. The only saving grace would be if the Russian generals refuse his order.

Prepared to bet your life, and everyone else’s, on that?

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 6, 2022 7:43 pm

JC

According to a pal, who went to a dinner with Putin over a decade ago. Putin has very tiny hands and perfectly manicured finger nails.

Wasn’t one of the DemonRat/MSM lines against the Orange Oaf that he had small hands? Maybe that helped the two of them to get on at least a bit?

Putin is the biggest thief in the world. He’s the richest man in the world and didn’t achieve this by heading up a tech company in Silicon Valley. He’s worth over US$200 billion dollars by strong arming the oligarchs.

At least he screwed over the oligarchs, not the peasants.

rickw
rickw
March 6, 2022 7:45 pm

Really? They don’t appear to have done anything about it.

They managed to keep Geelong refinery open. Severely fucked as compared to completely fucked.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 6, 2022 7:45 pm

JC

if that doesn’t work, he’ll stick you in jail on a made up charge.

Insurrection, a la January 6?

Roger
Roger
March 6, 2022 7:46 pm

It’s one of my favourite songs, Rog, but it missed last night’s window. Just.

I nutted out the guitar lines some time ago. D mixolydian. Very enjoyable to play. A looper comes in handy.

miltonf
miltonf
March 6, 2022 7:46 pm

Wasn’t one of the DemonRat/MSM lines against the Orange Oaf that he had small hands? Maybe that helped the two of them to get on at least a bit?
Yes- small hands. May be not a coincidence.
That’s also part of the Putin boogie man propaganda- Trump worked for him (yeah sure) and Trump and his supporters must be unpersoned.

JC
JC
March 6, 2022 7:46 pm

Prepared to bet your life, and everyone else’s, on that?

Explain Speedbox.

These sanctions are enraging him I suspect. It’s not a good thing with someone who has threatened nukes. He included economic sanctions! I believe him.

Cassie of Sydney
March 6, 2022 7:47 pm

“I don’t get your logic Dover. These states were under the Soviet jackboot for 70 odd years. The Soviets moved on satellite states progressively through the Cold Ward and they were treated like shit. Once the yoke was yanked how could you not expect them to try and receive cover from the West. Why wouldn’t they after what they’ve been through historically?”

No, Georgia and Armenia had long been vassal states of Russia, tied at the hip to the old Tsarist empire. Whilst they had some autonomy, they were client states to Imperial Russia. Georgia and Armenia long looked to Russia to protect them from the Muslim Ottomans (Georgia and Armenia are the sole Christian Caucasus countries) and Russia did protect them. Both states were treated reasonably well under communism, particularly Georgia when their native son was leader.

I know a little Russian history. Putin is paranoid because historically most invaders of Russia have came from the west, except the Mongols and Tartars who came from the east and yes, there were Russian/Ottoman skirmishes and the Russo/Turk war of 1877. But Poland is Russia’s historical enemy. The Poles and Swedes (when Sweden was a military force and aggressor) launched big invasions of Russia, from the Time of Troubles to post revolution, only a century ago. What finally entrenched Bolshevik rule was when Poland moved on Russia during the anarchy that followed the revolution. The Poles thought they would succeed because of the Russian civil war, when the Red army was distracted fighting the White army, and the Poles thought that this would given them the perfect opportunity to seize lands…and so Poland moved on Lithuania and Belarus. However the Polish offensive backfired because what united Red and White Russians more than anything was an invader from the west…..the Poles. Russia’s greatest World War I general, Brusilov and other White soldiers joined the Red army to defeat the Poles.

One of the big problems in the West nowadays is the absolute failure to learn and understand history, particularly how history effects events today. Not only do Eastern Europeans and Russians know their history, they don’t forget it either.

Makka
Makka
March 6, 2022 7:47 pm

You can’t in Russia, and if you try the prick will try to poison you and if that doesn’t work, he’ll stick you in jail on a made up charge.

That’s true. And he controls nukes. But the present strategy with those fkg prog morons leading the way from the LGBTQI WH with threatening Russia’s eastern borders and supporting ethnic Russian slaughter brigades is only going to make Vlad dig in all the more harder. And sending millions of Russians back into Soviet style poverty isn’t going to help win the hearts and minds they want. Best result right now is a negotiated stalemate in Ukraine because Vlad won’t fold, until he stops breathing.

Makka
Makka
March 6, 2022 7:50 pm

Makka is an ever bigger shill for the US State Department lies than Bruce, Rex Franger and yourself put together.

You’re delusional with zero comprehension skills.

Rabz
March 6, 2022 7:52 pm

I am very f#cking pissed off with what has happened in the US and now they’re ginning up for the war that the Washington War Machine wants.

Gradualism. Salami slices. A frog in a slowly boiling pot. Lots of lengthy ruin in various nations.

Enough – I want collectivism gone and in my lifetime, thanks, peoples.

The older I become*, the more this planet seems to be sliding into a very terminal irredeemable idiocy.

History’s cycles, rapidly gaining and they will overwhelm and apprehend us.

*Yeah, yeah, grumpy ol’ dinobores, etc 😕

Roger
Roger
March 6, 2022 7:52 pm

At least he screwed over the oligarchs, not the peasants.

He made his first millions as an operative of St. Petersburg city council in the immediate post-Soviet era doing what others were doing – ripping off assets from the Russian people for personal profit.
One deal he was responsible for was supposed to secure food supplies for the city. All they got was two tankers of cooking oil. After an investigation it was recommended that he be sacked, but presumably by bribery he was able to avoid that fate.

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 6, 2022 7:52 pm

Barack Obama and Richard Lugar were detained at an airport in Siberia for 3 hours in 2005 on suspicion of being U.K. spies.
Did Putin do a bit of interrogatin’ young Barry Soetoro?

bespoke
bespoke
March 6, 2022 7:53 pm

That’s a lot of history not seen in main stream Doco’s, Cassie.

Cheers

rickw
rickw
March 6, 2022 7:54 pm

The Cathedral of the Russian Armed Forces, just outside Moscow, consecrated in 2020.

Could The West even contemplate building a Cathedral?

miltonf
miltonf
March 6, 2022 7:55 pm

One deal he was responsible for was supposed to secure food supplies for the city. All they got was two tankers of cooking oil. After an investigation it was recommended that he be sacked, but presumably by bribery he was able to avoid that fate.

wow

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 6, 2022 7:57 pm

After an investigation it was recommended that he be sacked, but presumably by bribery he was able to avoid that fate.

I wonder what happened to the investigators later?

Roger
Roger
March 6, 2022 8:00 pm

And sending millions of Russians back into Soviet style poverty isn’t going to help win the hearts and minds they want.

Targetting the oligarchs is one thing, but measures that impact ordinary Russians are another.

As I said a couple of days ago, if you wanted to make Russia more paranoid, more anti-Western and more pro-China, you’d do exactly this. Stupidity on stilts.

rickw
rickw
March 6, 2022 8:01 pm

After an investigation it was recommended that he be sacked, but presumably by bribery he was able to avoid that fate.

Contemplate what a cunning and dangerous bastard he must be.

Zipster
Zipster
March 6, 2022 8:02 pm
Speedbox
March 6, 2022 8:02 pm

JC says:
March 6, 2022 at 7:46 pm
Prepared to bet your life, and everyone else’s, on that?

Explain Speedbox.

Well, if I understood your post correctly, you thought that Putin may try and nuke it out with Europe, supposedly as some last desperate act. Then, you said that the only saving grace would be if the Russian generals refused his order.

My underlying point was that there is no likelihood that the generals, most of them anyhow, would refuse the order. Therefore, a nuclear holocaust would ensue which would inevitably extend beyond Europe. So, betting on the Russian generals as the ‘last chance’ salvation effectively means we are all at very grave risk if that Putin nuke scenario happened.

2dogs
2dogs
March 6, 2022 8:02 pm

The Cathedral of the Russian Armed Forces, just outside Moscow, consecrated in 2020.

That place is astonishing.

Russia appears to be the last country on Earth still capable of beautiful architecture.

Crossie
Crossie
March 6, 2022 8:02 pm

Rabz, I vote for disco.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 6, 2022 8:03 pm

Makka is an ever bigger shill for the US State Department lies than Bruce, Rex Franger and yourself put together.
Forget bunkers, Chinese Tyres and Molotov Cocktails vs Tanks, the Ukrainian Air Force is rubble, their Army can’t win and Zelenskyy hightailed it to Poland the day of the invasion.

Russian Gypsum tastes the best, eh Grigory?

#InTheTank

#SpookConfirmed

#SmiertSpionem!

miltonf
miltonf
March 6, 2022 8:03 pm

As I said a couple of days ago, if you wanted to make Russia more paranoid, more anti-Western and more pro-China, you’d do exactly this. Stupidity on stilts.

correct- the actions of the neo cons are despicable.

What have they given us so far- Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan now the Ukraine. All funded by taxpayers. FMD.

miltonf
miltonf
March 6, 2022 8:05 pm

@Rabz- disco is good. 70s disco I presume.

Rabz
March 6, 2022 8:08 pm

Even the f*cking Mongs ruining Australia have been mildly concerned about energy security for a while

Humans. Proving themselves, yet again, incapable of governing themselves.

At the risk of incurring the ire of irredeemable imbeciles such as Iamashiteater and in my over five decades of existing on this planet, there is one inescapable conclusion I have arrived at.

You do not let “government” “legislate”.

A “national government” has basically one main task. To serve and protect the taxpayers within that nation. This includes defence, law and order and pretty much little else.

Yes, it’s basic. Yes, it’s not “about da feelz or da vibe”. Yes, it should do the job, if given even half a chance.

We’ve put up with enough “interpretation” of basic English (as she is spoke) by the Wynyard Toilets dwelling Humpty Dumpties of our beloved legal profession.

Hang’em high, followed shortly afterwards by HOP Time.

“Interpret that”, you fat waffling windbags. 🙂

miltonf
miltonf
March 6, 2022 8:08 pm

Speaking of thieves- they called the old thief The Senator from MBNA.

JC
JC
March 6, 2022 8:09 pm

Yea. Thanks speedbox.

Frank
Frank
March 6, 2022 8:09 pm

Russia appears to be the last country on Earth still capable of beautiful architecture.

There probably some pretty impressive mosques being built about the place.

miltonf
miltonf
March 6, 2022 8:09 pm

Leave Mr Justice Yeldham out of it!

Roger
Roger
March 6, 2022 8:10 pm

I wonder what happened to the investigators later?

After Putin’s election to the presidency the chief investigator went into internal exile and maintained her silence.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 6, 2022 8:12 pm

Georgia and Armenia long looked to Russia to protect them from the Muslim Ottomans

I suspect Armenia is very dirty with Putin right now, since they have a supposed defensive pact with Russia. But when Azerbaijan invaded Nagorno-Karabakh 18 mths ago the Russians refused to help.

It’s understandable why Putin chose that approach, but in abandoning one of his few actual allies I don’t think he won many friends.

Old bloke
Old bloke
March 6, 2022 8:14 pm

dover0beach says:
March 6, 2022 at 5:30 pm

Dear oh dear, it only took the possibility of war for Fox to remove its populist mask. Aside from Tucker, it’s terrible fare.

Stuart Varney on Fox Business had retired Col. Douglas MacGregor on his program to discuss the Ukraine situation. I don’t think Fox will invite him again.

Fox Business | Stuart Varney | Douglas Macgregor | Ukraine (H/T to MH on Adam’s blog).

cohenite
March 6, 2022 8:15 pm
jupes
jupes
March 6, 2022 8:15 pm

Khawaja out for 97 playing the reverse sweep. I won’t criticize him for that.

JC
JC
March 6, 2022 8:18 pm

How does that stop the Russians acting when energy dependence didn’t stop sanctions?

In the past, Putin has only acted when energy prices are favourable.

miltonf
miltonf
March 6, 2022 8:19 pm

They managed to keep Geelong refinery open. Severely fucked as compared to completely fucked.

Rick that was the one Shell walked away from? The Frogs bought it, is that correct?

Are they refining the Bass Straight crude? I know Altona is but I think Exxon fuckwits are closing that soon.

Bluey
Bluey
March 6, 2022 8:19 pm

I learned two things that bear on escalation to ww3 this weekend.

1. Russia does not have much capability to detect ballistic missile launches. Effectively, the first they know about it could very well be in the minutes as it crosses the boarder on the way to Moscow.

2. The command and control for nuclear weapons is, ironically, quite decentralized because of point 1. There just might not be time to call the head shed and ask, so the decision to jump to MAD could be much lower down the totem pole than the USA.

Good luck sleeping tonight.

jupes
jupes
March 6, 2022 8:24 pm

Stuart Varney on Fox Business had retired Col. Douglas MacGregor on his program to discuss the Ukraine situation. I don’t think Fox will invite him again.

That was gold. MacGregor wields a mean clue-bat.

Speedbox
March 6, 2022 8:24 pm

JC says:
March 6, 2022 at 8:09 pm

The problem lies in giving short answers sometimes, particularly in major events like this. There is always nuance and sub-text. Like the sanctions – unquestionably directed at Russia but the sub-text is directed at China and any thoughts it may have about Taiwan. Except, China is a completely different animal and the implications are vastly different…..

Rabz
March 6, 2022 8:25 pm

Good luck sleeping tonight

Bluey – it’s a complicated game … 😕

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
March 6, 2022 8:26 pm

Are they refining the Bass Straight crude? I know Altona is but I think Exxon fuckwits are closing that soon.

I was once told that it was feasible in engineering terms to turn Geelong and Altona into a unified facility where one would do the lighter fractions and the other the heavier fractions, and that economies of scale would make it viable.
If there re any regulatory barriers to that happening they ought to be repealed as a matter of urgency.

Razey
Razey
March 6, 2022 8:27 pm
bespoke
bespoke
March 6, 2022 8:28 pm

Rabz, I vote for disco.

Noooooooooo

miltonf
miltonf
March 6, 2022 8:28 pm

I was once told that it was feasible in engineering terms to turn Geelong and Altona into a unified facility where one would do the lighter fractions and the other the heavier fractions, and that economies of scale would make it viable.
If there re any regulatory barriers to that happening they ought to be repealed as a matter of urgency.

ok interesting- it has become seriously urgent

Bluey
Bluey
March 6, 2022 8:29 pm

Boris Yeltsin apparently raised it too.

Razey
Razey
March 6, 2022 8:29 pm

Timothy Neilsonsays:
March 6, 2022 at 8:26 pm
Are they refining the Bass Straight crude? I know Altona is but I think Exxon fuckwits are closing that soon.

I was once told that it was feasible in engineering terms to turn Geelong and Altona into a unified facility where one would do the lighter fractions and the other the heavier fractions, and that economies of scale would make it viable.
If there re any regulatory barriers to that happening they ought to be repealed as a matter of urgency.

The only way is to repeal the Hunchback Mong. But the Victorian retards won’t do it.

Roger
Roger
March 6, 2022 8:29 pm

Russia appears to be the last country on Earth still capable of beautiful architecture.

It’s certainly impressive. And also highly symbolic of how Russian nationalism and Orthodoxy are intertwined, to the point where many Russians cannot accept that a Catholic, whether Latin or Byzantine rite, can be a loyal Russian. Ukraine, particularly the western parts, is the heartland of Byzantine rite Catholicism.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 6, 2022 8:30 pm

Bruce of Newcastlesays:

March 6, 2022 at 6:50 pm

Thanks for hosting the party, Rabz, it was fun.

Sorry I missed it.
I was partying with Stuart Charles Gwendolyn MacGill.
Australia’s foremost living leg-spinner.

miltonf
miltonf
March 6, 2022 8:31 pm

the actual pipeline from Bass Strait goes to Altona but not Geelong if I’m not mistaken

Rabz
March 6, 2022 8:32 pm

Bluddee hell – Disco has collected two votes, it appears. Soul, at least one (Rog?).

bespoke
bespoke
March 6, 2022 8:33 pm

One more for Soul, Rabz.

Old bloke
Old bloke
March 6, 2022 8:37 pm

I just now saw the scariest news banner on Fox News,

Ukraine Crisis: Kamala Has It Under Control.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 6, 2022 8:39 pm

Serious question.

This was said earlier today by someone:

The Premier of Qld admits they will be used to not only hold the unjabbed but those who are a danger to the public, apparently disease spreaders… a bit like you know, Jews were 80 years ago.

I’ve looked for this, and cannot find it. I am also aware I am not a full-on computer searchy thingo bloke.

I am not interested in taking the piss out of the bloke that said it any more (today). I am interested in finding out whether this statement, and who it is attributed to has any provenance.

Because if Pallashay did say that – actually said it, not ‘something she might say’ – then it is significant. I am curious as to whether she said that, and would greatly appreciate being pointed in the right direction if she did.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 6, 2022 8:40 pm

I was partying with Stuart Charles Gwendolyn MacGill.

One of his traditional ‘wine and lines’ events?

Roger
Roger
March 6, 2022 8:41 pm

Soul, at least one (Rog?).

Yes.

Let’s get this party started!

Rabz
March 6, 2022 8:41 pm

70s disco I presume

Milt – is there any other type?

Oh, hang on – another theme – 2000s dance anthems. 🙂

srr
srr
March 6, 2022 8:43 pm

Frank says:
March 6, 2022 at 7:39 pm

The Cathedral of the Russian Armed Forces, just outside Moscow, consecrated in 2020.

That place is astonishing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_lDNvwTx6Q

Thanks for that.

No wonder the fallen West hates them.

Razey
Razey
March 6, 2022 8:44 pm

Old blokesays:
March 6, 2022 at 8:37 pm
I just now saw the scariest news banner on Fox News,

Ukraine Crisis: Kamala Has It Under Control.

Heh. Soon the US of A will be watering their crops with Brawndo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAqIJZeeXEc

miltonf
miltonf
March 6, 2022 8:45 pm

I was also thinking of 90s euro disco- Alex Party, Def Dames Dope etc Rabz. Apparently that’s eurodance not euro disco!

Speedbox
March 6, 2022 8:49 pm

Bluey says:
March 6, 2022 at 8:19 pm
I learned two things that bear on escalation to ww3 this weekend.

1. Russia does not have much capability to detect ballistic missile launches. Effectively, the first they know about it could very well be in the minutes as it crosses the boarder on the way to Moscow.

Sure? Because on November 25th last year the fifth Kupol satellite, which is specifically designed to provide the Russian military with global missile early warning, was launched and positioned. Moreover, the Tundra satellites were launched in the mid 2010’s and they all compliment the (more antiquated but still useful) 0ver-the-horizon radar systems.

Not saying you’re wrong but seems at odds with widely published articles over the last decade. The old Soviet stuff is waaaay past usefulness but there are quite a few new satellites, in particular. (Woody Woodpecker seems so long ago).

Roger
Roger
March 6, 2022 8:49 pm
custard
custard
March 6, 2022 8:49 pm

Putin doesn’t want to join NATO today, if he ever actually did.

Roger
Roger
March 6, 2022 8:50 pm

‘night all.

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 6, 2022 8:52 pm

The Premier of Qld admits they will be used to not only hold the unjabbed but those who are a danger to the public, apparently disease spreaders…

The disease spreaders part sounds like something she might be told to say.
What’s the big deal anyway?

Gab
Gab
March 6, 2022 8:53 pm

INCYMI from this morning (wow, feels like such a long time ago!)

In case anyone is is interested … petition to remove vax mandate.

Yes, yes, I know, just sign it anyway you never know what good it can do.

Official government authorised petition to stop vaccine mandates. Takes a minute to sign, consider doing so and then pass it around.

Make sure you tick the signature box and confirm the email (after you click submit)

https://www.aph.gov.au/e-petitions/petition/EN3886

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 6, 2022 8:55 pm

Just on Palaszczuk, she’s [teehee] of Ukrainian origin, even if her dad was born in Athens Greece to Polish parents.
So, has she made any statements in support of her Bros in Mariupol?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 6, 2022 8:57 pm

Knuckle Draggersays:

March 6, 2022 at 8:40 pm

I was partying with Stuart Charles Gwendolyn MacGill.

One of his traditional ‘wine and lines’ events?

Hard to tell.
We were tied up in the boot of a Valiant.

miltonf
miltonf
March 6, 2022 8:58 pm

Sounds very Adelaide Sancho

Razey
Razey
March 6, 2022 8:58 pm

Rogersays:
March 6, 2022 at 8:49 pm
I’ve looked for this, and cannot find it. I am also aware I am not a full-on computer searchy thingo bloke.

Here you go, KD.

The first guests were unvaccinated international travellers, an unvaccinated mariner and a few others in need of accomodation. It will also house international arrivals vaccinated with unapproved vaccines. Presumably for the regulation two weeks.

None of the clot shots work. I don’t see why they are even bothering with the rest of the world starting to drop all covid nonsense. Why are they continuing with discrimination and waging economic warfare on people exercising freedom of choice. Australian overlords are tyrants and don’t believe in human rights.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
March 6, 2022 8:59 pm

You’ve all missed a cracker episode of Mafs tonight.
John went right off at Carolina and poor old Al copped a flogging for being too happy.
I’d put Putin and Merkel in a TV relationship and watch results.
“Vlad is always pushing my boundaries”
“Angela has her borders open to others but not me”

Rabz
March 6, 2022 8:59 pm

Milt – another topic – the Nineties.

Some seriously awesome tunes were released in that decade.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 6, 2022 9:01 pm

KD at 8:39.
I have done a search.
No record that I can find.
I think your “it is the sort of thing they might say” theory is correct.

miltonf
miltonf
March 6, 2022 9:02 pm

for sure Rabz don’t get me started- Spiderbait for example!

Bluey
Bluey
March 6, 2022 9:03 pm

Speedboxsays:
March 6, 2022 at 8:49 pm
Bluey says:
March 6, 2022 at 8:19 pm
I learned two things that bear on escalation to ww3 this weekend.

1. Russia does not have much capability to detect ballistic missile launches. Effectively, the first they know about it could very well be in the minutes as it crosses the boarder on the way to Moscow.

Sure? Because on November 25th last year the fifth Kupol satellite, which is specifically designed to provide the Russian military with global missile early warning, was launched and positioned. Moreover, the Tundra satellites were launched in the mid 2010’s and they all compliment the (more antiquated but still useful) 0ver-the-horizon radar systems.

Not saying you’re wrong but seems at odds with widely published articles over the last decade. The old Soviet stuff is waaaay past usefulness but there are quite a few new satellites, in particular. (Woody Woodpecker seems so long ago).

That was from a expert I think is trustworthy. He was saying the US can detect a launch pretty much anywhere around the globe in real time, but the Russians only have good coverage over their immediate borders. I don’t know enough to judge though.
I do worry about if Putin feel like he’s backed into a corner though. The whole art of war thing of leaving your enemy a way out so they don’t fight to the death. If the Ukraine adventure fails and there’s not a effort to save face I could see things going sideways in a hurry.
The current clowns running things don’t feel me with hope face saving will happen.

srr
srr
March 6, 2022 9:08 pm

I do take great comfort in how little the ways of the super powerful are understood.

The people with good PR, need it.

Those getting on with getting things done against the will of the most ruthless, don’t.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 6, 2022 9:09 pm

Sounds very Adelaide Sancho

No,that would be a 380.

Zipster
Zipster
March 6, 2022 9:09 pm

Official russian briefing

Briefing by Russian Defence Ministry spokesperson

ukrainian forces are being systematically neutralised. a somewhat different narrative to the propaganda we are being bombarded with.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 6, 2022 9:09 pm

Here you go, KD.

Appreciated, Roger.

That piece is from 16 February, and indicates the camp will house unvaxxed arrival from overseas, mariners, fruit pickers, students and so on.

Pallashay says:

Speaking from the Wellcamp site this morning, Ms Palaszczuk said the “state-of-the-art” facility would have a “whole range of uses”.

I’m sure I read here that the think was already green-lit as a mining camp, post-pandemic. Like the one in the NT, where it was a mining camp first, then empty, then a (now very-nearly empty) quarantine arrangement, except in reverse.

If that’s the case, I’m not sure that:

The Premier of Qld admits they will be used to not only hold the unjabbed but those who are a danger to the public, apparently disease spreaders

Holds water. Not interested in point scoring*^, but if anyone has some clarity – that would be very cool.

*Unless provoked.
^Exhibit A – didn’t even mention the ‘just like the Jews’ bit.

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 6, 2022 9:10 pm

Why are they continuing with discrimination and waging economic warfare on people exercising freedom of choice.

Because they [the States] can.
In countries with land borders, there’s usually the option of crossing the border when things become unsettled and returning later.
The present situation has similarities with the old Soviet Union, except that in Australia the Federal Government isn’t allowed to compel the States to act like human beings.

Rabz
March 6, 2022 9:10 pm

Australia’s foremost living leg-spinner

When not arranging his “relevance deprivation syndrome” apprehension, by a bunch of (allegedly) shady personages.

miltonf
miltonf
March 6, 2022 9:12 pm

Same factory Bear!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 6, 2022 9:12 pm

West’s sanctions over Ukraine mean war: Vladimir Putin
Sarah Ison
Political Reporter
AFP
19 minutes ago March 6, 2022
6 Comments

Vladimir Putin has equated global sanctions imposed over his ­invasion of Ukraine with a ­“declaration of war”, and warned that any enforcement of a no-fly zone over his besieged neighbour would have “colossal and catastrophic consequences”.

The Russian President issued the double-pronged threat after Russian artillery pummelled the Ukrainian city of Mariupol in ­violation of a ceasefire to allow ­civilians to escape.

With fears growing of direct conflict between Western forces and Russia – both nuclear-armed – the US and Moscow set up a new direct phone line to reduce the risks of “miscalculation”. Russian forces attacked and seized ­Europe’s largest nuclear plant at ­Zaporizhzhia on Friday, pushing Kyiv to accuse Moscow of ­“nuclear terror”.

As the invasion entered its 11th day, Mr Putin warned on Sunday that a no-fly zone would have “colossal and catastrophic consequences not only for Europe but also the whole world”.

“Any movement in this direction will be considered by us as participation in an armed conflict by that country,” the Russian leader said during a meeting with employees of national airline Aeroflot, which announced it was halting all international flights from Tuesday as more foreign airlines suspended operations in and out of Russia following European and US sanctions.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 6, 2022 9:12 pm

Angela has her borders open to others but not me

PHRASING.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 6, 2022 9:14 pm

the think

*the thing*

Gawd.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 6, 2022 9:14 pm

Farmer Gezsays:

March 6, 2022 at 8:59 pm

You’ve all missed a cracker episode of Mafs tonight.
John went right off at Carolina …

Actually Gez, it is generally pretty lightweight but I gave it a big uptick tonight.
We are have been driving around a lot and haven’t been watching telly.
When that crazy tart started her bullshit I started mocking her … “Oooh. I am very hot-blooded Latinx and just have to let my feelings out and be a total bitch”.
I didn’t know but she must have pulled exactly that same schtick.
The reason for the uptick?
The Brazilian woman on the ‘expert panel’ called the bint out.
(Paraphrasing) “Stop using your cultural background as an excuse for shit behaviour”.
Well said, that woman.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 6, 2022 9:14 pm

Gez – the thing about dirty secrets is the secret bit.

Makka
Makka
March 6, 2022 9:17 pm

after Russian artillery pummelled the Ukrainian city of Mariupol in ­violation of a ceasefire to allow ­civilians to escape.

Plenty of reports to the contrary say that the Ukrainians blocked roads preventing civilians to leave. That I believe.

Rabz
March 6, 2022 9:18 pm

In countries with land borders, there’s usually the option of crossing the border when things become unsettled and returning later

Bluddee hell. I’d never realised that factlet, Eddles. Seems you are here to do more than state the bleeding obvious, while leavening everything you post with bizarre conspiracy hypotheses and flat out legendary wrongness.

That’s yet another reason one should love this perfesser free zone.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

feelthebern says: March 6, 2022 at 8:15 am

Fun fact, only 1.3% of the vodka the US imports is from Russia.
And nearly all of the big brands are non-Russian owned.

Not sure what the stats are for Australia.
It’s unlikely anyone in Oz has drunk Russian made or Russian owned vodka in the last decade.

…It’s unlikely anyone in Oz has drunk Russian made or Russian owned vodka in the last decade….

Russian Standard vodka is a strong brand from Coca-Cola, it’s been ticking over nicely for them. Quite some volume in sales. It is Russian.
A lot of Australians have been drinking it (or buying it, anyway)

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 6, 2022 9:19 pm

If the Ukraine adventure fails and there’s not a effort to save face I could see things going sideways in a hurry.

Get used to the propaganda emanating from the US Department of State.
Their only concern is keeping their loyal American subjects in a perpetual state of fear.
Putin has made it clear he’s securing the Donbass and bringing the Nazis to justice, and that’s it.

srr
srr
March 6, 2022 9:23 pm

rickw says:
March 6, 2022 at 8:01 pm

After an investigation it was recommended that he be sacked, but presumably by bribery he was able to avoid that fate.

Contemplate what a cunning and dangerous bastard he must be.

Yep, I’ve been given cause to contemplate such in real life.

So, you’re that talented little KGB guy, doing deals with the most ruthless in town, getting full dirt on those deal makers who you end up nutting by the experience.

Next thing you’re being groomed to be installed as a puppet for the even more ruthless, and again, you turn the tables on them.

Not all Russian Communists escaped to the Gold Coast and other playgrounds of the rich & ruthless, some of the worst stayed in Russia.

You don’t keep that sort under control with Constitutions no one heeds & High Courts that spit on Justice, as the US has discovered.

You play hardball against the hard men, with a man who makes them look soft.

How the world really works, 101.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 6, 2022 9:25 pm

Oh. A heretofore-unknown clique of MAFS watchers.

Fuck you. Get a clot and die, you fucking bottom feeders.

Stop being emotional. White Anglo Christian men would never watch this. It’s not even on in Quenthland, the Last Holdout. In those parts they truck MAFS watchers to gas camps, and gas them from lamp posts.

Not one single truck in that show. Not one. That tells you everything you need, deniers. But nobody can deny it with eyes. Society is dying thanks to Endemol Australia and their cabal of death-cult billionaires. Don’t make me flounce again.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 6, 2022 9:26 pm

Mariupol ceasefire begins
Chloe Whelan
CHLOE WHELAN

The council of Mariupol has confirmed a ceasefire has been organised in the city for a second day, allowing civilians to evacuate.

The ceasefire began at 10am (7pm AEST) and will be in place for 11 hours. Civilian evacuations will begin at midday.

Saturday’s agreement to a ceasefire was short-lived. Ukrainian officials said Russian forces were targeting Mariupol residents, preventing them from fleeing the city safely. Intelligence from the British Defence Ministry backed up the claims.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
March 6, 2022 9:29 pm

Knuckle Dragger says:
March 6, 2022 at 9:25 pm
Oh. A heretofore-unknown clique of MAFS watchers.

Fuck you. Get a clot and die, you fucking bottom feeders.

I’ve lost my Sleepless in Seattle DVD Knuckles, could I borrow yours?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

I’ve lost my Sleepless in Seattle DVD Knuckles, could I borrow yours?

You’ll find it between the “Melrose Place” boxed set & the “Friends” Director’s Cut blu-rays.

Rabz
March 6, 2022 9:32 pm

err, I have transgressed my own rule, peoples. Thou shalt not take the piss out of fellow commenters (again).

Oh, sod it – until one does and feels mighty good about it.

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 6, 2022 9:33 pm

Ukrainian officials said Russian forces were targeting Mariupol residents, preventing them from fleeing the city safely.

Why would Russian Forces do that, Zulu?

Intelligence from the British Defence Ministry backed up the claims.

Spooks said

It’s true!

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 6, 2022 9:33 pm

I’ve lost my Sleepless in Seattle DVD Knuckles, could I borrow yours?

Shit.

How did you know?

Zipster
Zipster
March 6, 2022 9:36 pm
Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 6, 2022 9:36 pm

I have all of those things. On videocassettes.

Disguised with labels in texta that say things like ‘1989 Grand Final’.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 6, 2022 9:39 pm

Knuckle Draggersays:

March 6, 2022 at 9:25 pm

Oh. A heretofore-unknown clique of MAFS watchers.

Fuck you. Get a clot and die, you fucking bottom feeders.

Steady on.
I am trapped in a motel room with Mrs Panzer in Upper Bumfuck West and I lost the toss on the telly channel.
But I did applaud the South American woman for calling out the “passionate bitchy Latinx” myth.

miltonf
miltonf
March 6, 2022 9:39 pm

don’t know why people go all gooey over NATO- it’s not 1975 anymore. It’s just another skin suit.

srr
srr
March 6, 2022 9:40 pm

The only way is to repeal the Hunchback Mong. But the Victorian retards won’t do it.

Once upon a time I explained a number of ways I saw our elections being rigged.

Cat’s went nuts, especially the, ‘I volunteer as a scrutineer’, etc. mob, who were incensed at having actual system failures brought to public attention, rather than being mightily pissed off at finding out that the votes they were suppose to secure, weren’t.

Victorians elected Andrews like Americans elected Biden and like Australian’s voted for SSM.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

…..Victorians elected Andrews like Americans elected Biden and like Australian’s voted for SSM…..

A non-compulsory postal survey, with no verification of who voted – what could possibly have gone wrong with that?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 6, 2022 9:43 pm

On Shane Warne.
Gentlepeople please.
It’s very sad for him and his inner circle.
But, fuck me, can we cease and desist with the Princess Diana outpouring of emotion?

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
March 6, 2022 9:45 pm

What Sportsbet odds should one be looking for on:
(a) a relatively quick resolution in the Ukraine to enable the “Biden administration’s” catamites in the MSM to portray heels-up Harris and the rest of the “Biden administration” as decisive foreign policy sages;
(b) a drawn out conflict in the Ukraine so that the “Biden administration’s” catamites in the MSM can keep claiming until the midterms that high energy prices in the US are the fault of Putin (Trump’s alleged puppet master ….).

I’d think the latter was a dangerous strategy, but they seem to be clearly intent on blocking anything that might bring US energy prices back down, so they may need whatever cover they can get.

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 6, 2022 9:47 pm

Yeah, if his admirers left full longnecks around that statue, then i can see a spot of desecration happ’nin’
after dark.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
March 6, 2022 9:48 pm

…..Victorians elected Andrews like Americans elected Biden and like Australian’s voted for SSM…..

Sorry but I really don’t know of any serious corruption in the Victorian state election.
Here in Victoria the Karen/doctors’ wives quotient is very high, and there’s not a statewide shortage of manbuns.
Add to that the utter hopeless ineptitude of the Coalition and there’s no need for conspiracy theories as to how we’ve ended up with Maximum Leader.

miltonf
miltonf
March 6, 2022 9:49 pm

I’d think the latter was a dangerous strategy, but they seem to be clearly intent on blocking anything that might bring US energy prices back down, so they may need whatever cover they can get.

I read in The Real Global Warming Disaster by Christopher Booker that the old Carter turd was doing something similar in the 70s. Still around too like a bad smell.

Des Deskperson
Des Deskperson
March 6, 2022 9:50 pm

I’ve just been watching a rerun on ABC I-view of the first episode of a an ‘acclaimed’ new drama called Troppo. I recommend it to Cats who are students of the ABC’s adolescent sub- mediocrity who it comes to drama.

Its a classic! Shameless cliches of plot, character and dialogue combined with the ABC drama’s usual self-conscious ‘edginess’. The highly original conceit involves two incompatible people teeming up to solve a disappearance: she’s a feisty Indigenous woman with a shaved head and a troubled background and he’s a burnt out American ex-cop accused, like the A Team, of a crime he did not commit. This guy is a walking stereotype, goes around say stuff like ‘the shit won’t wash off’.

It all occurs against a sort of Far North Queensland gothic background of a with arty shots of cane fields and rain forests.

The next episode promises to be a cracker: there’s a hint in the preview that the disappearance involves a wicked mining company.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 6, 2022 9:52 pm

I do take great comfort in how little the ways of the super powerful are understood.

I.E. Who really digs the tunnels and tomato sauces the pizzas?

Zipster
Zipster
March 6, 2022 9:52 pm
Makka
Makka
March 6, 2022 9:53 pm

I’d think the latter was a dangerous strategy, but they seem to be clearly intent on blocking anything that might bring US energy prices back down, so they may need whatever cover they can get.

I can see the headline now;

“Biden says we must speed up our energy transition to renewables to break the hold dangerous hydrocarbons have on our economy.”

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

I’ll say this much for that Cannon-Brookes, he makes Ernest Borgnine look handsome.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 6, 2022 10:06 pm

Sorry but I really don’t know of any serious corruption in the Victorian state election.

If I recall correctly, the Red Shirts Affair was an act of dodgy electioneering, rather than outright electoral fraud. The latter is far too hard to practically do under the Australian system, so your bastardry has to be done in secret beforehand. So, branch-stacking, infiltration and other acts of (not strictly illegal) political skulduggery.

Our resident RedShoe has bought into the Them Tunnel Lizards dun pervert our democrazee for their own ends meme, which takes as its basis the documented, centralised exploitation of several US States’ voting laws, legal confusion and manipulation provoked by the Covid mania of 2019-20 and how historical Democrat vote rigging and voter suppression machinery was sent into overdrive to ensure the defeat of Donald Trump at any cost.

This set of facts is then extrapolated and projected in toto into other electoral jurisdictions around the world (regardless of whether that sort of shit might fly there or not- In Australia, this is impractical to impossible as already stated. And you have the Court of Disputed Returns to deal with as well, so dismissals on laches or lack of standing won’t work), liberally plastered with Dominion and WEF and Soros etc. labels for extra revulsion, and given an extra sprinkling of piquant globalist murdergenocide-plan Nuffiness to give it its heady flavour.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 6, 2022 10:08 pm

Greens push for a treaty and ‘peace’ as they run all-Indigenous ticket
Ben Schneiders
By Ben Schneiders
March 6, 2022 — 4.49pm

The Greens will run an entirely Indigenous Senate ticket in Victoria and make a push for a national treaty between Indigenous nations and clans and the federal government a top priority.

Greens senator Lidia Thorpe said she thought it was the first time an entirely First Nations ticket had run as a major or third party in Victoria, or possibly nationwide. “Not sure this has happened anywhere else, haven’t heard of it, but it’s well overdue,” she said.

Senator Thorpe — who filled a vacancy in the Senate in 2020 when former party leader Richard Di Natale resigned — said a treaty would be a top priority with the Greens hopeful of holding the upper house balance of power.

“There was a war declared on us when the boats arrived. And we’ve been at war ever since,” said Senator Thorpe, a Gunnai, Gunditjmara and DjabWurrung woman. “You know the statistics, you hear them all the time, probably roll your eyes at them. Another death in custody, another child removed, another suicide, another desecration of country, water or sky.

“Well, that’s been going on for over 240 years. And we want peace. We want the same opportunity as everybody else has in this country. And we can protect the country together, we can protect water together, and we can protect each other. The only way we can do that is to make peace through a treaty.”

Senator Thorpe said Indigenous people did not want welfare, rather to be “economically empowered to self determine our own destiny”. That could include negotiating to claim a share of national gross domestic product which, she said, “will lift us out of that poverty that is killing us”.

Senator Thorpe was speaking at All Nations Park at Northcote along with fellow Greens Senate candidates union official Adam Frogley, kinship carer Sissy Austin and non-binary Wiradjuri person Zeb Payne. At the 2019 federal election, the Greens won a primary vote of 10.6 per cent for the upper house, a small swing against it. The Victorian vote was slightly above its national Senate vote-share.

The party has the chance to pick up several Senate seats at the federal election due in the coming months. They currently have nine senators but have only three up for re-election. If they had a similar result to 2019, they could end up with 12 senators.

Also in attendance at the Senate launch was lower house candidate for the federal seat of Cooper, Celeste Liddle, an Arrernte woman. Ms Liddle said of the Greens all Indigenous Senate ticket that “I didn’t think I’d see this in my lifetime”. She said she was inspired by the achievements of Senate Thorpe. “If it wasn’t for Lidia, people like me wouldn’t have put my hand up in the first place.”

Ms Liddle backed a national treaty process. “People have been making laws about us, not with us and then imposing them on us for generations, and we’ve seen the devastation that that’s brought our community.”

Ms Liddle faces an uphill battle in progressive Cooper, held by the popular Labor MP Ged Kearney who won a big swing at the last election and holds the seat on a 65 per cent to 35 per cent on a two-party-preferred basis.

Senator Thorpe said a national treaty would need to be a comprehensive process that would take many years of consultation and negotiation. It could run parallel to Victoria’s current treaty negotiations which she said left out many Indigenous nations and was not a good model to emulate.

“We need to talk to every clan and nation about what they want and every local government area and community about what they want,” she said.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 6, 2022 10:11 pm

Warne was renowned during his playing days for eating snacks like baked beans and toasted cheese sandwiches, while Hawaiian pizza was another of his favourites.

From now on Hawaiian pizza will be known as a Warney’s Fav.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
March 6, 2022 10:11 pm

If I recall correctly, the Red Shirts Affair

Yes of course there was that. But as you say, the fact that taxpayers’ money was stolen and spent persuading mongs to vote for totalitarianism doesn’t mean that the mongs didn’t vote for totalitarianism.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 6, 2022 10:15 pm

I lost the toss on the telly channel.

You’d never see that sort of cow-towing up here in Longreech, or Airley Beach or Bowin.

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