Open Thread – Weekend 19 Mar 2022


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JC
JC
March 21, 2022 7:51 pm

I reckon American whistleblowing, where the government splits the money with the blower, is terrible. It’s actually creepily unethical cloaked in an perversely ethical sort of way. Don’t take the money.

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 21, 2022 7:51 pm

It bears keeping in mind the opponent may just have a hair trigger response to any NATO incursion – as Putin has been warning for years.

Disagree.
Putin is a weak leader.
What he shoulda done was a Blitzkrieg, the war woulda been over inside the week and the Police Operation would follow.
While he appears to be winning, it’s been way too slow and he’s given NATO time to regroup and wreak havoc.

JC
JC
March 21, 2022 7:52 pm

Putin is a weak leader.

Mr Ed is sundowning again.

Cassie of Sydney
March 21, 2022 7:52 pm

Carter and his wife, Rosalind, were both naive. During the 1976 presidential campaign, Rosalind Carter lent credibility to Jim Jones. Whilst campaigning for her husband during a visit to San Francisco, Mrs Carter spoke from the pulpit in Jones’ church and she dined with Jones. Apparently Mrs Carter and Jones later corresponded. To be fair, Mrs Carter wasn’t the only Democrat to hobnob with Jones and laud his “efforts”, numerous Democrats did…such as Walter Mondale, Governor Jerry Brown and Willie Brown (the mentor of Kamala and the recipient of Kamala’s numerous…ahem…favours).

Naivety can be foolish and dangerous

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
March 21, 2022 7:53 pm

I had a trader who claimed he had an IQ of 155. I believed him because he was actually lightening smart and was an incredibly good trader….
I liked him, but he was also a complete fucking arsehole and very difficult to manage about the crappiest things. Jealousy was his biggest curse.

I don’t think IQ correlates much with any personality types. I’ve mixed with mathematicians who were very smart, some were arseholes most weren’t. Like the general population.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
March 21, 2022 7:53 pm

JCsays:
March 21, 2022 at 7:13 pm
It possible I guess.

Let’s say Putin has salary sacrificed US$10,000 a year for 20 years. I cut a few corners but in order to attain US$200 billion over that period Putin would be earning ~312% compounded annually over the period.

He’s better than Buffet or any hedge fund manager. Wow!

Maybe at the start of 2016 he had a multi at Sportsbet for Leicester City for the Premier League, Chicago Cubs for the World Series, the Bulldogs for the AFL and the Sharks for the NRL.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
March 21, 2022 7:53 pm

The Mata Hari!

Multiple upticks!!!

cohenite
March 21, 2022 7:54 pm

Just last week another American trader pal told me he had turned into a whistle-blower and earned several million dollars by ratting on a desk he wasn’t part of as revenge because he believed the bank diddled him on part of his bonus. The desk in question was accused of gouging customers.

Sounds like the plot from $Billions, which is very good.

Roger
Roger
March 21, 2022 7:54 pm

What would be a hoot is if the Saudis told President Corn Pop to deal with the Iranians or he’d cut back oil by 50%. Could you imagine?

Biden would be forced to open up US production again.

Not a bad thing.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 21, 2022 7:55 pm

Back when the Beetrooter was a rising star and the Lieborals had Potential Greatness. Seems a long time ago.

JC
JC
March 21, 2022 7:55 pm

I don’t think IQ correlates much with any personality types. I’ve mixed with mathematicians who were very smart, some were arseholes most weren’t. Like the general population.

LOl. I wasn’t suggesting that – just telling the story of what he was like.

JC
JC
March 21, 2022 7:58 pm

Sounds like the plot from $Billions, which is very good.

Except his whistleblowing was about an amount below 50 million (the fine). Chicken feed these days 🙂

Chapter 6 is so fucking boring. The show was done when Ax landed in Switzerland and the bald fuck took over.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 21, 2022 8:00 pm

Mother Lodesays:

March 21, 2022 at 7:53 pm

The Mata Hari!

Multiple upticks!!!

That was a funny image.
Lots of colour and movement.
Without any actual eventual movement.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Had a girlfriend whose IQ was 160. She was vivacious, extremely attractive, & a lot of fun.
Daughter of academics & possibly the most lefty person I’ve ever known. Everything was a theory to her and pragmatic solutions were beyond her ken.
She learned at least four languages to quite some proficiency (Chinese, Japanese, German & French, as you do) & ended up marrying some pipe-smoking academic type straight outta central casting (complete with cocked head & enquiring manner of conversation) & living in Oxford or Cambridge or the like (perhaps Yale, I forget now) where she’d be as happy as a pig in dung.

Wonderful person. Would try to sabotage every common-sense political policy that came along.
Contribution to society: Complete Zero.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 21, 2022 8:01 pm

Why did armies maintain large forces of horsed cavalry after WW I?

Probably couldn’t afford armour. Still cavalry make infantry very mobile so are still useful outside of direct combat.

Because the use of the armoured vehicle as substitute for horse cavalry was not really explored and then codified as doctrine until the late 1920s, and general military mechanisation (perhaps not helped by the Great Depression) was not pursued until the early-mid Thirties.

Steadily increasing automotive reliability, economic prosperity and production quality certainly contributed to this.

Had the world remained relatively depressed for a very long time postwar, and technological progress followed different directions, it is not inconceivable that 1939 might have still seen WW1-esque designs trundling awkwardly towards barbed wire.

Tom
Tom
March 21, 2022 8:01 pm

Woops, Sancho. You’re right. I meant Tom Morris, who, as you point out, should have been more careful. The reason he still has a job at Seven is that he’s very good at it. He didn’t deserve to lose his job at Fox Footy to appease homosexual scum.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 21, 2022 8:02 pm

From The Empire Strikes South (Avonmore Books)

Just about reached the top of the “To read” stack.

JC
JC
March 21, 2022 8:03 pm

Cronkite

At least the trading room pretended to be busy when Axe was running the show. They don’t appear to do anything under Mike Prince. Also, I can’t stand Maggie Siff. The character really annoys me – even more now.

I’m shocked Axe never bonked Siff in earlier shows. What a pusy.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 21, 2022 8:04 pm

So Tom Morris has moved to Seven?
Not that I really give a shit.
They are all bottom feeders as far as I am concerned.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 21, 2022 8:04 pm

Putin is a weak leader.
What he shoulda done was a Blitzkrieg, the war woulda been over inside the week and the Police Operation would follow.

Field Marshall Groogarly, VD and scar, has spoken!

Frank
Frank
March 21, 2022 8:07 pm

Nancy Pelosi was quite fond of Jim Jones too. He was useful to the Dems in that he could be relied upon to turn out a crowd of followers to intimidate when required, sort of like KKK, occupy and BLM really.

Frank
Frank
March 21, 2022 8:09 pm

Michael Jordan’s Chicago mansion. Would not recommend.

Cassie of Sydney
March 21, 2022 8:09 pm

“Nancy Pelosi was quite fond of Jim Jones too. He was useful to the Dems in that he could be relied upon to turn out a crowd of followers to intimidate when required, sort of like KKK, occupy and BLM really.”

Yep.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 21, 2022 8:09 pm

I don’t know who Frank Charater is, but boy, he better stay well away from the Furniture Store.
Not happy with Frank Charater.
In 2,500 words or less.
But not much less.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
March 21, 2022 8:10 pm

Wonderful person. Would try to sabotage every common-sense political policy that came along.
Contribution to society: Complete Zero.

Some ppl use a good brain for thinking up esoteric reasons for doing stupid things.

Tom
Tom
March 21, 2022 8:10 pm

Tom Morris was previously chief AFL football reporter for the Seven Network and Fox Footy. The latter sacked him last Friday. I’m glad he still has a job as he’s very good at it. He’s not a rocket scientist. He’s just good at breaking football stories.

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 21, 2022 8:10 pm

There’s also a photo of Carter’s wife with John Wayne Gacy.
Probably a fundraiser …

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 21, 2022 8:13 pm

Helen at 6.36:

He has been remanded until March 31 and hearings moved to Darwin, so not even bail

Please understand that I am not backing this state of affairs up. If you are charged with murder, the default position is no on bail* because a murder charge must have a level of premeditation behind the actions of the accused that will stand up in court.

Bail applications for moida are rare, they are held in the Supreme Court (which only sits in Darwin or Alice, which is why K-Town doesn’t get a look in) and you only get one shot at it.

31 March is ten days away, which is a very short timeframe for these things. Potentially this is for a bail application, but more likely a directions hearing where timeframes for future hearing dates are set.

I’ve heard two stories about this so far, both from different people on different days telling me they’re in the know. One is that it was a ‘warning shot’ that missed, and turned out to be a warning to other people in future. The other is that the bloke got shot in the back while running away across a paddock. I don’t know but will, as they say, make enquiries into the matter.

*Which makes the Rolfe gig even stranger. The point of bail is that it’s supposed to ensure your appearance at court. This generally means staying as close to home as possible. Rolfe got charged with murder, and 1) was immediately given bail, and 2) bailed to stay OUT of the NT until the trial date.

Also, the NT Police media people issued a statement that he’d been charged and bailed. The problem with that was at the time the press release was released, he was still in the cells and hadn’t even seen or spoken to a judge. Weird, huh?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 21, 2022 8:14 pm

Cassie at 7:52.
Yep.
Jones was in thick with the Dems establishment in San Francisco.
I think some may have facilitated his move to set up Jonestown.
Not spoken about then or since.
But, as they say, if they found just one photo of him with Trump, it would be a six part Netflix series.

JC
JC
March 21, 2022 8:16 pm

Does anyone have a view as to why the New York Times ran the story about the 50 intel liars where Times essentially called them liars and bullshitters.
Why now?

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 21, 2022 8:19 pm

Jonestown was OK apart from the catering. It was the 70s, man.

srr
srr
March 21, 2022 8:19 pm

I strongly agree with Gonzalo Lira.

Those who insist on constantly giving Ukrainians the absurd false hope that they can win, are only ensuring unnecessarily prolonged fighting and the slaughter of young, untrained, Ukrainians and those horribly deceived into coming to fight with them from other countries.

Western Social Media is as guilty as Western MSMedia.

Ed Case
Ed Case
March 21, 2022 8:20 pm

There’s a few photos of Trump and Ghislaine Maxwell, no six part series though.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 21, 2022 8:21 pm

H B Bearsays:

March 21, 2022 at 8:19 pm

Jonestown was OK apart from the catering. It was the 70s, man.

Jonestown is the main reason I always take sealed bottled water to the commune.

Frank
Frank
March 21, 2022 8:25 pm

Not many Mensa members in the Jonestown congregation down in Guyana.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 21, 2022 8:26 pm

The Shop’s devolved further. Again.

Handbags and/or colostomy bags at ten paces between Faulty and his prophet.

‘I’m really sick and almost dead’ vs ‘Well I’m fat and ugly but I stood on stage with Alan Jones once’ which sprouted from the topic of running for Parliament.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
March 21, 2022 8:27 pm

The Mata Hari!

Are you sure it is not the matted hairy?

Dot
Dot
March 21, 2022 8:28 pm

Which makes the Rolfe gig even stranger. The point of bail is that it’s supposed to ensure your appearance at court. This generally means staying as close to home as possible. Rolfe got charged with murder, and 1) was immediately given bail, and 2) bailed to stay OUT of the NT until the trial date.

LOL

Just absurd.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 21, 2022 8:29 pm

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupiditysays:

March 21, 2022 at 8:01 pm

Had a girlfriend whose IQ was 160

What was the aggregate score for the two of you?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

What was the aggregate score for the two of you?

No idea.
Perhaps 160, perhaps as low as 150.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 21, 2022 8:31 pm

incoherent ramblersays:

March 21, 2022 at 8:27 pm

The Mata Hari!

Are you sure it is not the matted hairy?

Don’t say that.
I cleaned the shower grate today.
Trying to forget.

Dot
Dot
March 21, 2022 8:31 pm

Being the only one in your neighbourhood who enjoys thinking and discussing things other than sport can be distressing.

I am a tipping comp now just for shit stirring.

By gum, FIGJAM.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 21, 2022 8:31 pm

Rolfe got charged with murder, and 1) was immediately given bail, and 2) bailed to stay OUT of the NT until the trial date.

Makes perfect sense if your objective was to keep it off p1 of the papers.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 21, 2022 8:32 pm

Sal.
If you were a kelpie the aggregate should be around 180.

jupes
jupes
March 21, 2022 8:35 pm

The most interesting thing about the Tom Morris sacking, is that the incriminating audios (two of them) were only released after Luke Beveridge had an unfair crack at him. Someone had obviously decided that Morris shouldn’t remain a victim for too long.

I don’t believe Morris is now working for 7. He is unemployable at the minute.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

If you were a kelpie the aggregate should be around 180.

You got the answer you deserved.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 21, 2022 8:35 pm

Being the only one in your neighbourhood who enjoys thinking and discussing things other than sport can be distressing.

Makes you sound like Bob Carr. What a terrible thing to say about anyone.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 21, 2022 8:36 pm

Here we go.
Another footy player charged in a he said/she said case.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 21, 2022 8:37 pm

H B Bearsays:

March 21, 2022 at 8:31 pm

Rolfe got charged with murder, and 1) was immediately given bail, and 2) bailed to stay OUT of the NT until the trial date.

Makes perfect sense if your objective was to keep it off p1 of the papers.

I think they hoped that, as Jesus said, “take this cup away from me”.
I think they were secretly hoping the High Court might scotch the whole thing before it launched.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 21, 2022 8:37 pm

Aha! Kim Kellett is the chap’s name from Cutta Cutta (south of Katherine). The NT News:

The matter was adjourned for a bail application on March 31 in the Darwin Local Court.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 21, 2022 8:38 pm

“He was charged with sexually touching another person without consent and granted conditional bail to appear at Downing Centre Local Court on Wednesday April 13.”

Considering his handling errors, he probably went to shake her hand & missed.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 21, 2022 8:41 pm

Seven News

“Police located the body of a male person who was deceased from an apparent gunshot wound.”

Det Snr Sgt Evans said officers were called to the house after receiving a report about a male intruder inside the home.

He said the man in custody and a woman and two children were in the home at the time.

The house is located about 30km south of Katherine near the Cutta Cutta Caves Nature Park.

Det Snr Sgt Evans said detectives are also examining whether the incident was linked to an absconder who fled the Venndale Rehabilitation Centre, about 10km south of the caves.

The Venndale facility is a residential drug rehabilitation centre for Indigenous people.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 21, 2022 8:41 pm

I think they were secretly hoping the High Court might scotch the whole thing before it launched.

You wouldn’t put your own money on that as a strategy. Taxpayers- possibly?

Frank
Frank
March 21, 2022 8:42 pm

Can’t imagine IQ scores would be much use if you are measuring things like 40 and below. What would that look like in meatspace.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 21, 2022 8:43 pm

What are Lark up to?
From the Oz.

In late January, some 480,000 litres of whisky sat in barrels owned by Shene Estate, a Tasmanian distillery linked to an 1819 grant of 800 acres by Lachlan Macquarie to a relative of King George III.

That whisky was expected to have a value of $24m once it matured.

On February 2, Shene’s larger Tasmanian rival – ASX-listed Lark Distilling – completed its acquisition of the company, naming it Pontville Distillery and Estate.

The same 483,000 litres sat in the same barrels. Only now, according to Lark, it will have a value at maturation of more than $104.3m. This figure featured prominently in investor presentations the company rolled out as it raised $53m to fund the purchase.

srr
srr
March 21, 2022 8:43 pm

twostix says:
March 21, 2022 at 5:15 pm

There’s a retard retired geriatric group of effeminate midwits here: Rex, Leigh low , etc. […] in a place like this realestate is a thing and a page can only contain so many comments and the good ones disappear three pages back before anyone reads them. So quantity, tactily organised by an effeminate clutch of domesticated henpecking hens, can indeed beat quality any time.

And boy do they go for quantity over quality.
[…]

This is particularly noticeable as the Pro-‘ukraine’ Mob keep working to bury real news of how the Russians are winning this war, while they keep repeating the insane, “Ukraine Is Winning!” propaganda that is doing nothing other than getting more young people senselessly killed.

Notice how they dare not try to argue any of the Live From The Spot news of what’s happening and why it’s the Russians who are being humane while the ‘Ukrainians’ have just turned into torturers & murderers of fellow Ukrainians and fools they suckered into going there to fight, sorry, die for them.

So, here’s just one for those who missed it under all the squawking from the Pro-Slaughter By & Of Ukraine, mob –

What’s Happening on the Ground In Ukraine w/ Gonzalo Lira
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qtzkaqdlci0&t=191s

local oaf
March 21, 2022 8:44 pm

DrBeauGan says:
March 21, 2022 at 7:30 pm

I joined when I was 17 to see what it was like and dropped out shortly after.

Ditto, although I was about 30 at the time. They never told me my test scores, might have been a clerical error!

Dot
Dot
March 21, 2022 8:44 pm

Brisbane Girls Grammar School group call themselves ‘furries’ and act like cats

Are they taking the piss?
Actual anime cat girls?
Josie and the Pussycats?

There could be a good anime made out of this.

Maybe they watched The Cat Returns too many times.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

They never told me my test scores

I think that’s some sort of secret, in the interests of avoiding a ‘hierarchy’ (seriously).

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
March 21, 2022 8:48 pm

I don’t usually get cranky about things over which I have no control, but the ongoing Rolfe saga is starting to really get up my nose. A brave young copper doing his duty is pilloried by desk bound chiefs with the collusion of government ministers.

A ridiculous charge brought in record time, political interference and now NT police hierarchy attempting to get rid of Rolfe on dubious “disciplinary” offences.

Now sounding like the media was kept informed and used to gee up public sentiment against Rolfe as well.

A distubing and disgraceful affair from the time Rolfe was arrested onwards,

Cassie of Sydney
March 21, 2022 8:50 pm

“Here we go.
Another footy player charged in a he said/she said case.”

Just watch the DPP press ahead with it.

JC
JC
March 21, 2022 8:51 pm

Can’t imagine IQ scores would be much use if you are measuring things like 40 and below.

The Black Swan Leb dude argues very close to that point. He reckons the only thing IQ tests are good for is to measure extreme thickness.

Tom
Tom
March 21, 2022 8:53 pm

Does anyone have a view as to why the New York Times ran the story about the 50 intel liars where Times essentially called them liars and bullshitters.
Why now?

JC, in order to save the Biden presidency, the New York Times had to admit that Hunter Biden is totally corrupt and that the story the American left concocted in 2021 that the stuff in his laptop was “Russian disinformation” is bullshit.

The NYT is now concocting a new story that, for example, postulates that Hunter Biden is not corrupt, but simply doing what needs to be done to save the USA – just like the left’s story in Time magazine in 2019 about how it “saved” the 2020 election.

The NYT now simply has to create a new framework for its lies about the family of the bloke the leftist cabal running the White House installed as the fake American president in 2020.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 21, 2022 8:53 pm

A brave young copper doing his duty is pilloried by desk bound chiefs with the collusion of government ministers.

Rolfe was supposed to have been found “Guilty” to placate the “Blak Lives Matter” mob.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 21, 2022 8:54 pm

A ridiculous charge brought in record time, political interference and now NT police hierarchy attempting to get rid of Rolfe on dubious “disciplinary” offences.

The acquittal wasn’t the end, Pedro. It’s just the end of the beginning. Two bits from different NT News articles today are keeping the flames burning. One:

A SUPREME Court judge referenced comments made by Chief Minister Michael Gunner and former ICAC Commissioner Ken Fleming when he moved Constable Zach Rolfe’s murder trial from Alice Springs to Darwin.

Mr Gunner travelled to Yuendumu three days after Constable Rolfe shot dead Kumanjayi Walker during an arrest attempt in the remote community in November 2019.

He told community members “consequences will flow” from a coronial inquest into the shooting. A day later Constable Rolfe was charged with murder.

Mr Gunner has dismissed criticism of his comments, accusing the Northern Territory Police Association of running a deliberate campaign to misconstrue his words.

After a suppression order was lifted last Friday, it can be revealed Justice Dean Mildren referred to Mr Gunner’s comments when he made the decision to move Constable Rolfe’s trial from Alice Springs to Darwin.

Justice Mildren said by the end of November 2019 there had been 1029 publications about the Rolfe case on television and radio, 200 press reports and 135 publications on the internet.

He said “some of the publications on the internet could be described as irresponsible and inflammatory”.

He then listed several examples including “claims that a leading politician told a public meeting in Yuendumu that ‘consequences will flow’ as a result of the investigation into the matter”.

Another example cited was “reports of the ICAC Commissioner at a rally in Alice Springs addressing the crowd and stating that ‘black lives matter’ and that ‘anyone who says contrary to that is guilty of corrupt behaviour’.”

The other:

HEALTH Minister Natasha Fyles held no formal meetings with Chief Minister Michael Gunner in the four days after Kumanjayi Walker was shot dead by police at Yuendumu.

During an interview on Mix FM last week, Mr Gunner said he had travelled to Yuendumu three days after the shooting to address concerns that health staff had been evacuated from the community on the day Walker was shot dead by Constable Zachary Rolfe during a failed arrest attempt.

The Opposition has since questioned why Mr Gunner travelled to Yuendumu with Police Minister Nicole Manison, rather than Ms Fyles.

Dunno about Gunner, but Chalker the Commish is a dead man walking. Gorn by year’s end if not before, I reckon.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 21, 2022 8:55 pm

Blockquote fail. Apologies Pedro.

JC
JC
March 21, 2022 8:57 pm

I don’t need IQ testing. I went to Melbourne High, which basically makes me a genius.

Just kidding. I dunno how the fuck I scraped in there and it wasn’t a footy scholarship e. I had to sit for a test. I can’t forget the verbal test had the Cronkite’s favorite word as a multiple choice. Concupiscence.

132andBush
132andBush
March 21, 2022 8:58 pm

MatrixTransform says:
March 21, 2022 at 3:40 pm

joint’s lost the plot

it has become absurd
the misrepresentation is infantile

AKA a circle jerk.

Dot
Dot
March 21, 2022 8:59 pm

Draft an Australian Bill of Rights that doesn’t suck ass and which isn’t subject to “reasonableness”

Some ideas.

Sorry, this will read like a stream of consciousness, these are my ideas or ideas picked up here over the last two or more years. About 1/5 cut out for clarity and concision.

———————————————————

TCRF. US BOR at a minimum and absolute.

Sortition/demarchy

5/10 year term House (sortition) and Senate (appointed by House with half rotations).

Double supermajorities to alter

Confederation with rotating Presidency

More states

autonomous shires

Voluntary voting and tax

Chair/board — CEO analogy to Governor/Premier President/Chancellor?

In super national state, get rid of national vice chancellors appointed by Chancellor/Premier?

Executive board supervising President supervising Chancellor like Vermont and NH/Maine.

Negative CIR – recall, negative initiative

All laws subject to initiative at regular elections (before sunset clauses take effect).

All laws sunset

Grand juries for comittal, only form of indictment unless waived.

Waiveable right to grand jury or jury trial in civil/criminal cases.

Individual sovereignty

National non defence or external affairs matters to be handled by internal treaty and state courts

House confirmation: by local and state auths. plus Hare clark voting. Senate: same?

Executive? Preferential after the same.

Judicial appointment: legislative confirmation plus approval voting.

Strict separation of powers: also strict separation of judicial, regulatory and police powers.

All delegated instruments must be approved by Parliament without exception.

NO privative clauses.

Enshrined statute of civil and criminal limitations of 5 & 30 years save for equitable tolling and exclusions for murder, treason, terrorism and piracy.

NO retrospective legislation.

Pardon on repeal of laws breached.

Absolute bar on double jeopardy without strict judicially reviewed reasons satisfying strict criteria.

Absolute bar on CP save for murder, terrorism, treason, piracy and subject to roman law, two direct corroborating pieces of evidence and compulsory judicial review, unanimous verdicts by juries and judges and automatic and strict age and mental health requirements etc, request pre trial and standard of evidence to be above ANY doubt.

Unanimity of juries not to be diminished in any way at all, nor burden of proof beyond reasonable doubt diminished.

Absolute bar on hearsay and illegal evidence, probity not considered.

All branch and level of government subject to same restrictions.

All matters of law to have same rules – i.e. property law consistent with tax law. To avoid tax and regulators acting above law.

Ambiguous powers are void.

No deeming legislation.

Restrictions on stupid and verbose judgments. Judgments to adjudicate or announce law as settled.

Legislation, regulation, orders and judgements to be plain language AND concise.

No Federal judiciary bar high court.

Equity equal to and enshrined in and as law. Applicable to all areas of law.

Constructive murder only strictly construed and no CP.

CP for murder ONLY aggravated murder.

Jury nullification
Judgment notwithstanding verdict (not guilty verdicts only)

Federal system –> con federal. No sitting national government. States rotating presidency.

No appeal against not guilty verdicts
Mistrials count in double jeopardy counts
All indictment by grand jury
All jury decisions unanimous
Burden of proof – beyond any doubt in civil and criminal trials
All government decisions must be unanimous (judiciary, cabinet, exec board, chambers of parliament)

Decision notwithstanding verdict also applies to civil trials (all cases, entire judicial panel must agree).

Any loss of property or liberty must be before jury unless waived.

Ban on entrapment and stings.

Cannot offer to be party to a crime or enter into a void contract that facilitates a crime, or fund or organise such a transaction, nor can it incite or intimate incitement of a new offence.

Cannot ask questions that would breach evidence act, that is, ask questions which risk possible false admissions. Information must be freely given and not initiated by police.

Cannot operate an illegal, plain clothes, undercover or intercepted operation of any kind unless approved by commissioner and supreme court judge – must conform with the above and also be approved by the attorney general and with the purpose of collecting information and not soliciting a confession not freely given or initiated by police questioning.

Interception includes the clandestine observation or recording or interception of any communication.

Any direct evidence that contradicts any evidence submitted by the prosecution is grounds for acquittal.

5 years + equitable tolling limitations on all claims bar murder.

Murder: 50 years.

Nominal bar is absolute bar.

Juries are triers of fact in family law matters (all civil and criminal matters?).

Cannot change indictment from committal to trial.

Local courts: no trials? Or must use juries. No one can be incarcerated except for contempt or before a bail hearing without a unanimous jury conviction beyond any doubt.

Laws (incl. regulation) must be made available to be read by the public for at least 30 days before they are enacted into law.

Indictment: GJ.

Committal: judge.

Bail & minor fines: magistrate. Try to use community judges where points of law are not needed.

Voting rights tied to taxes paid?

Responsibilitism?

Repeal of law automatically grants pardon and release/refund of fines

Charges and even civil cases ought not to be tried “in the alternative”.

Sunset clauses on caselaw as well
Codification
Participatory democracy
Jury nullification
Citizen’s referenda

All matters of law to have same rules – i.e. property law consistent with tax law. To avoid tax and regulators acting above law.

Thus administrative law can be used in criminal defence, unlike in DPP v Barton (drunk sent to bail/comittal magistrate against his will).

Some of the best things we could have done constitutionally to avoid the last 18 months of dystopia:

Break the Federation and reform as a Confederation.
Create more states out of the existing ones.
Give the electorate recall & initiative power.
Have term limits on all officeholders.
Have automatic sunset clauses on all legislation.
Remove the plenary legislative power of State Parliaments.
Collate and reinforce the rights we have under privacy, medical, general human rights, evidence, criminal, constitutional and anti-discrimination law.

Punish malicious or incompetent prosecutions (caluminators) as well as false accusers – job losses, fines on top of gaol times.

Abolish delegated legislation entirely.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 21, 2022 8:59 pm

I joined when I was 17 to see what it was like and dropped out shortly after.

Phew. That puts my attendance of the Dalkeith Young Liberals at Steve’s into perspective.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 21, 2022 9:01 pm

Dot, you want to trust the state with capital punishment?
The same state that has effectively rigged trials against defendants?
And that has overseen the last two year?
No fucking way mate.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 21, 2022 9:02 pm

Voluntary tax? Good luck with that one. It didn’t work too well for the Greeks.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 21, 2022 9:02 pm

feelthebernsays:

March 21, 2022 at 8:43 pm

What are Lark up to?

Spooky.
I was just reading that and thinking the same.
Revaluing inventory in a business like that is absolutely fraught.
They were saying the product sells for $270 per 500 ml which looks like a good margin above valuation.
Several points:-
.1 How much of that is GST and Duty?
.2 What are marketing and delivery costs?
.3 What is estimated evaporation and other losses?
.4 That is their top of the range product. What is the spread of product prices in their inferior lines?
Remember, this is the company which lost it’s (alleged) meth-smoking CEO a month ago, but only after he tried to bury the Oz story by planting a bullshit defence story in Fewfacts.
A story which accused the Oz of being part of an extortion racket.
I don’t know what the current Lark management and board had to do with that, but I predicted at the time that the Oz were going to ride that moron and anyone associated with him good and hard.

JC
JC
March 21, 2022 9:02 pm

Tom

Lol… leftie readers would believe that. I’ve mentioned it before if where where we are now because of terrible lies the demonrats told with the Russian angle.

I have a theory about the Wussiagate crap. I have a inkling limey intel started it (using Steele) in order to crucify Trump as they didn’t want the US making nice with Russia. The UK’s best position as seen then by UK intel was for the US to dislike Russia and visa versa.

Frank
Frank
March 21, 2022 9:03 pm

HB Bear, did you go to Hollywood High School by any chance?

Dot
Dot
March 21, 2022 9:03 pm

Lark Distillery make fantastic liquor.

I don’t care if the CEO was caught listening to Enya and wearing a corset & blow up Tijuana donkey.

Dot
Dot
March 21, 2022 9:07 pm

No bern

Put those restrictions in place because they are very rigid.

Think of game theory.

If those rules got put in place – they could be removed under what circumstances? The government gets backlash.

If the argument is they won’t follow the rules at all, than it is arguably no different to now.

We also have a very immoral form of capital punishment, where we allow (some of the worst) prisoners to do it somewhat indiscriminately.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 21, 2022 9:08 pm

Lark Distillery make fantastic liquor.

Unless your name is De Beers, best to value your inventory at cost.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 21, 2022 9:10 pm

HB Bear, did you go to Hollywood High School by any chance?

No but I’ve driven past it plenty of times until Emperor Barney flattened it.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 21, 2022 9:10 pm

Don’t care Dot.
The state can not be trusted.
Plus it’s a waste of money.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 21, 2022 9:11 pm

Ed Casesays:
March 21, 2022 at 7:51 pm
It bears keeping in mind the opponent may just have a hair trigger response to any NATO incursion – as Putin has been warning for years.

Disagree.
Putin is a weak leader.
What he shoulda done was a Blitzkrieg, the war woulda been over inside the week and the Police Operation would follow.
While he appears to be winning, it’s been way too slow and he’s given NATO time to regroup and wreak havoc.

Field Marshal Sir Richard Head, VC, DSO, MG, jssc, psc, C-in-C has spoken. Heed his words Tsar Vladimir I.

JC
JC
March 21, 2022 9:11 pm

Bear

You’re Californian?

C.L.
C.L.
March 21, 2022 9:11 pm

1940’s California, digitally remastered. Looks like the peak to me!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMFRJqddlqc

Yep. Peak. California was one of the greatest El Dorados in history.
Now wrecked. By Democrats.

Look at how calm and at ease everyone is.

And I like how that lady at the start walks (right screen). 🙂

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 21, 2022 9:12 pm

Anyone seen those patches advertised that you stick on your feet overnight & it sucks the bad shit out of you?
Where’s the TGA on that scam?

Franx
Franx
March 21, 2022 9:13 pm

Ah, concupiscence. Whatever does it mean.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 21, 2022 9:13 pm

Abolish delegated legislation entirely.

Yep.

Those cash-fed swine can earn their truffles.

JC
JC
March 21, 2022 9:14 pm

Great list, dot.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 21, 2022 9:14 pm

Dotsays:

March 21, 2022 at 9:03 pm

Lark Distillery make fantastic liquor.

I don’t care if the CEO was caught listening to Enya and wearing a corset & blow up Tijuana donkey.

You are talking as a consumer Dot, which is fine.
But most shareholders don’t like throwing shitloads of cash into an outfit run by a glass barbie aficionado.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 21, 2022 9:15 pm

Field Marshal Sir Richard Head, VC, DSO

DSO. Dairy Service Order.

Eyrie
Eyrie
March 21, 2022 9:15 pm

Every citizen has a right to open a bank account. Said account is a matter between the citizen and the bank unless convicted of a crime.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 21, 2022 9:16 pm

Hollywood is for people who can’t bring themselves to acknowledge they are living in Nedlands.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 21, 2022 9:16 pm

Abolish delegated legislation entirely.

What are the limits on delegated legislation?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 21, 2022 9:16 pm

feelthebernsays:

March 21, 2022 at 9:12 pm

Anyone seen those patches advertised that you stick on your feet overnight & it sucks the bad shit out of you?

My Philipino maid does that.

jupes
jupes
March 21, 2022 9:16 pm

Does anyone have a view as to why the New York Times ran the story about the 50 intel liars where Times essentially called them liars and bullshitters.

No, but what shits me about it, is that we have known since the NYP published the story that it was true. Why does it take the NYT – with absolutely no credibility – to admit it for the story to now be seen as factual?

Frank
Frank
March 21, 2022 9:16 pm

Hollywood High School is in Nedlands in Perth. Greta Scatchi went there. It had a bad rep for drugs in the 70s and a good rep for turning out good students. They bulldozed it for the real estate i the nineties. Fucking hated the place.

Eyrie
Eyrie
March 21, 2022 9:17 pm

Abolish delegated legislation entirely
Yes.

jupes
jupes
March 21, 2022 9:17 pm

Australia batting for a draw again. Yawn.

Dot
Dot
March 21, 2022 9:19 pm

1. Not under those circumstances.
2. It’s not banned now save for international treaties which were ignored with COVID lockdowns.
3. The rules are strict, but it doesn’t mean you HAVE to have it. Many States abolished CP before we “banned” it.
4. What do you do with a Himmler or Hans Frank?
5. Isn’t it better to have due process instead of what happened in France after the war?

Repealing a prohibition on CP might be easier than altering an almost unworkable version of it where people may have an emotional connection to some of the rights it entails.

If you don’t like it, just ban it altogether but consider the game theoretic argument for the rules and that you likely believe we should have an army.

srr
srr
March 21, 2022 9:19 pm

This is just evil –

JC says:
March 21, 2022 at 6:12 pm
[…]
To call a win to the Russians is a huge call unless they go absolutely Nazi and start a 10 for 1 scheme of arrangement where 1 Russian killed will mean 10 randomly chosen Ukrainians for execution.
[…]

JC is saying that when the Russians win it will only because they were evil when he knows it’s the Ukraine/Western Mobsters who are actually using savage, torturing, murdering Nazi’s now, to keep getting Ukrainians slaughtered for nothing.

Again, a short & longer interview of Gonzalo Lira –

Gonzalo Lira
on
The Mother of All Talkshows with George Galloway – Episode 147

https://youtu.be/QiK7rUH9nws?t=1718

What’s Happening on the Ground In Ukraine w/ Gonzalo Lira
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qtzkaqdlci0&t=191s

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
March 21, 2022 9:19 pm

Absolute bar on CP save for murder, terrorism, treason, piracy and subject to roman law,

… and people who drive below the speed limit in the right hand lane on a crowded freeway.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 21, 2022 9:20 pm

feelthebernsays:

March 21, 2022 at 9:08 pm

Lark Distillery make fantastic liquor.

Unless your name is De Beers, best to value your inventory at cost.

Correct.
Particularly in something which might have years to go before retail sale.
Very … courageous.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 21, 2022 9:20 pm

Field Marshal Sir Richard Head, VC, DSO

DSO. Dick Shot Off.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 21, 2022 9:21 pm

What are the limits on delegated legislation?

Based on the last two years – whatever you think you can get away with.

Cassie of Sydney
March 21, 2022 9:22 pm

“Hollywood High School is in Nedlands in Perth. Greta Scatchi went there. It had a bad rep for drugs in the 70s and a good rep for turning out good students. They bulldozed it for the real estate i the nineties. Fucking hated the place.”

I went to a private girl’s school on Stirling Highway in the late 1970s. Hated it, desperately wanted to go to Hollywood High. My parents refused to grant my wish.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 21, 2022 9:23 pm

piracy and subject to roman law

Careful. Getting close to maritime law.

Cassie of Sydney
March 21, 2022 9:23 pm

“Neocons are, frankly, shameless morons.”

Add “dangerous” to that mix too. The likes of scum like Frum love war.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 21, 2022 9:23 pm

I went to a private girl’s school on Stirling Highway in the late 1970s. Hated it, desperately wanted to go to Hollywood High. My parents refused to grant my wish.

Sliding doors.
You could have been Mrs H. B. Bear.

OK.
I’ll just leave it at that.

jupes
jupes
March 21, 2022 9:24 pm

What are Lark up to?

Selling inferior spirits with their label on it.

Profit.

Dot
Dot
March 21, 2022 9:24 pm

What are the limits on delegated legislation?

What the parent legislation says.

Now considering how crazy the GST legislation is for example; s 165.55 of the GST “A New Tax System” Act,

The Commissioner may:

(a) treat a particular event that actually happened as not having happened; and

(b) treat a particular event that did not actually happen as having happened and, if appropriate, treat the event as:

(i) having happened at a particular time; and

(ii) having involved particular action by a particular entity; and

(c) treat a particular event that actually happened as:

(i) having happened at a time different from the time it actually happened; or

(ii) having involved particular action by a particular entity (whether or not the event actually involved any action by that entity).

you can see this is pretty absurd stuff given that if a business did the same, it would be fraud; if you gave evidence like that in court, it would be at least perjury.

feelthebern
feelthebern
March 21, 2022 9:24 pm

David Frum should be in Gitmo.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 21, 2022 9:38 pm

feelthebernsays:

March 21, 2022 at 9:24 pm

David Frum should be in Gitmo.

As should bloody Frank Charater.

Cassie of Sydney
March 21, 2022 9:41 pm

“Sliding doors.
You could have been Mrs H. B. Bear.”

I could have been Mrs Forrest too.

Eyrie
Eyrie
March 21, 2022 9:45 pm

I went to Hale. Could’ve gone to Perth Modern. Probably should have.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 21, 2022 9:47 pm

Cassie of Sydneysays:

March 21, 2022 at 9:41 pm

“Sliding doors.
You could have been Mrs H. B. Bear.”

I could have been Mrs Forrest too.

Come on!
Surely your standards are above that.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 21, 2022 9:47 pm

From the Oz.

Edmond
11 minutes ago
Drinking Lark is a bit like wearing a fake Rolex. Shame.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 21, 2022 9:51 pm

Edmond
11 minutes ago
Drinking Lark is a bit like wearing a fake Rolex. Shame.

That is sort of what I meant by “long time to market”.
Yep.
Every hipster (and Dot) might be throwing it down at $70 a shot right now.
But in 2025?
Who knows?
They could be all into pet-nat sparkling or Japanese plum wine or Guatemalan pink gin.

Dot
Dot
March 21, 2022 9:51 pm

From the Oz.

Edmond

Please stop.

rickw
rickw
March 21, 2022 9:52 pm

All laws sunset

Great list Dot.

But this one’s really important. If something shit gets through, at least it expires and they then need to take the heat of pushing it through again.

Also might stop Australia from sinking under the sheer physical weight of paper with legislation on it.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Unless your name is De Beers, best to value your inventory at cost.

What’s the reason for this?
It’s cropped up in two circumstances in my life.
Magistrates are always insisting my stock is valued at what it cost me, not the opportunity cost of replacing it.

Yet in cattle duffing cases, the value is the sale price of the stock, not the cost.

So confusing.

Helen
Helen
March 21, 2022 9:53 pm

Top Ender, I recognise a lot of the names who are donating. This young couple are respected and well liked in the Katherine area. Dani who is the mother of two, one a newborn is a lovely girl and a ranger herself. My son works with her in an associated capacity and thinks highly of her.

Her husband Kim is a terrific fellow, he would have to be for Dani to marry him.

It happened at 4.00 am in the morning when these types of things are best for robbery or rape or both. I can imagine all Kim could think about was to protect his wife and children and good on him.

I am chilled that there is no bail, that Dani and her kids dont have their husband and father with them, I hope she is ok and this will end well, but my thoughts are that Gunner wants a scalp. How come the coppers who killed that 19 year old in Darwin are not on remand?

Kim and Dani dont have the resources to fight this, I doubt there is a union to help, so they need all the help others can provide.

cohenite
March 21, 2022 9:54 pm

I’m shocked Axe never bonked Siff in earlier shows. What a pusy.

They swam together in the nude. But they mainly didn’t because he’s a better person then her fatr bastard of a hubbie.

Does anyone have a view as to why the New York Times ran the story about the 50 intel liars where Times essentially called them liars and bullshitters.
Why now?

Long enough after Trump was cheated so nothing can be done, and long enough before the mid-terms so they can appear to have done their duty to report and it won’t colour their future lies.

rickw
rickw
March 21, 2022 9:56 pm

The Commissioner may:

Why so verbose?

“Make shit up as they see fit.”

Tom
Tom
March 21, 2022 9:56 pm

From today’s AAP “Media Movements” newsletter (published twice weekly):

Sky News Australia has hired Megyn Kelly, Nigel Farage and Douglas Murray as on-air and online contributors.

Arky
March 21, 2022 9:59 pm

srr says:
March 21, 2022 at 8:19 pm

Those who insist on constantly giving Ukrainians the absurd false hope that they can win….

..
Explain how that would work, SRR?
How would anyone external to Ukraine be in a better position than the actual Ukrainians to know the situation in Ukraine?
And if it’s the Ukrainians overrating their battlefield performance, then how is anyone else responsible?
Why don’t we leave them to decide for themselves if and how they want to defend themselves? From an actual invasion.
If the answer is “Yes” then propaganda goes along with that. Always has, always will. No country goes to war and doesn’t from the very first plan an information war to go along with the other hostilities.
You’ll know how the war went after it’s all over. Maybe.
Meanwhile, the inter webs are a mess of competing lies, and debate is broken after two years of Covid stupidity.
I’ll take any outcome that dissuades or delays Xi from going at Taiwan.
And as much as I love Taiwan, I could see how if Xi does go, many of the same arguments about Ukraine could be used on Taiwan to justify leaving her to her fate as the enemy propaganda ramps up over that one. No place on Earth is an absolute paragon of virtue.
We might not like this current version of the globalised world order, but it’s still our world order.
Under a Chinese co- prosperity sphere, our lives would be very cheap. And the same type of people we don’t like in charge now will still rule over us as collaborators.
Maybe this will be the act that begins a great reversal.
Maybe now they’ll see that you need energy security. That you need certain essential production within your own borders. That you need a degree of social cohesion. That they need the ordinary working man after all, and he has to be given meaning and freedom, family and outlet for the productive urges that all good men have.
I’m seeing much more “Made in USA”, “Made in France”, “Made in Sweden” and “Made in Taiwan” in our tool shops.
I even just bought a bathroom fan that was “Made in Ukraine”.
What we want is our own little dictators to back off, wise up and ease down. Not for the foreign even worserer dictators to take over the world.
No one story explains the last two years. Nothing fits completely. Anyone thinking they have a simple explanation for how the world went mad for two years straight hasn’t thought it all through.
If Xi goes at Taiwan, and the US intervenes, and we fall in, then those shipping lanes we rely on close.
If we don’t oppose it, then Xi has his first stepping off point down the Pacific wrapped up, and an even bigger proportion of the world’s industrial capacity, including silicon chip production.
Ukraine matter. It matters to the Ukrainians, and it matters to us as a guide to how the coming war in our region will unfold.
War is coming.
Quicker than I have predicted.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 21, 2022 9:59 pm

Helen,

See upthread at 8.13 for bail-ey things, as well as Rolfe somehow getting bail on a murder charge.

flyingduk
flyingduk
March 21, 2022 10:01 pm

I don’t care if the CEO was caught listening to Enya and wearing a corset & blow up Tijuana donkey

https://toys4sex.com.au/shop/sexdoll/inflatable-donkey/

No further questions, your honour

Delta A
Delta A
March 21, 2022 10:01 pm

I don’t understand how they are exploiting the system. Can you mansplain it for me please?

Winnie, these students don’t for one minute truly believe that they’re cats. But they’ve been taught that a man identifying as a woman is a woman and don’t dare question that. So why not identify as a cat and make the woke mob toe the line?

Can’t be challenged, unlimited attention and endless perks. Their teachers are fools and the kids are exploiting that.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 21, 2022 10:07 pm

Exactly Delta.
It is A-Grade trolling of their teachers.

Helen
Helen
March 21, 2022 10:10 pm

KD he was shot in the house, which is not in the back running across the paddock in the dead of night. Kim would have to be a brilliant shot to pull that off, OR just unlucky .

Thanks for your notes re bail etc and murder.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 21, 2022 10:13 pm

KD he was shot in the house, which is not in the back running across the paddock in the dead of night.

Fair enough Helen. I hope the bloke gets bail on 31 March, for a start.

Indolent
Indolent
March 21, 2022 10:16 pm

It’s a messy clip but he does say that he’s finding it hard to breath. Hardly what you would expect from a champion sportsman.

The Great Awakening
@Robert55
46m
·
Rafa says it’s hard to breathe. The look on his face is heartbreaking. It’s like he knows.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 21, 2022 10:24 pm

Arkybsays:
March 21, 2022 at 9:59 pm

Arky Johnson is right. Raging against your chosen enemy’s propaganda on behalf of your side really does achieve nothing except a bit of a flag wave on your part. It’s like watching Cats and Pies fans swearing and flapping their scarves at each other on Match Day.

But I agree that any outcome that forestalls the brewing Second Asia-Pacific War between China and all-comers is not a bad thing. Especially if it also leads to Sniffy and his handlers being tipped out and realists (even if they are still Deep Democrat State bastards) who actually believe in America and the West they grew up in reasserting control.

In the meantime, watching the Nuffy brigade rally and then get nastier and more belt-fed this evening because their Thought Leader pulled a Johnny Farnham* has been, errr….interesting.

* I swear this is gonna be the last time, peoples! Honest!

Indolent
Indolent
March 21, 2022 10:24 pm

American Thinker. Not a happy read.

A Great Reset Is Already Underway in Utah

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
March 21, 2022 10:29 pm

Exactly Delta.
It is A-Grade trolling of their teachers.

There is trolling, and then there is Heresy.

Some lines should never be crossed.

+++Suffer Not The Furry To Live+++

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
March 21, 2022 10:29 pm

All three are good value.

“Australia has hired Megyn Kelly, Nigel Farage and Douglas Murray as on-air and online contributors”

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
March 21, 2022 10:39 pm

Yet in cattle duffing cases, the value is the sale price of the stock, not the cost.

Maybe because natural increase doesn’t have a “cost” in an accounting sense, so you could argue that “at cost” you didn’t steal nuffink.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Maybe because natural increase doesn’t have a “cost” in an accounting sense, so you could argue that “at cost” you didn’t steal nuffink.

It’s a funny one, coz livestock always has a book value.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 21, 2022 10:48 pm

Yet in cattle duffing cases, the value is the sale price of the stock, not the cost.

Maybe because natural increase doesn’t have a “cost” in an accounting sense, so you could argue that “at cost” you didn’t steal nuffink.

I’ve had the job of explaining to two high school students, dressed in their elder siblings police uniforms, as a joke, that, yes cattle and sheep stealing still goes on in rural Australia, and yes, I do want the thieving barstewards caught, give a fair trial and hanged in public.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
March 21, 2022 10:54 pm

Does anyone have a view as to why the New York Times ran the story about the 50 intel liars where Times essentially called them liars and bullshitters.
Why now?

Don’t know.
But in a few months’ time they’ll be claiming that they courageously broke the story, and the rest of the MSM will join in the acclamation.
Thus they’ll portray themselves during the midterm campaign as the “impartial” voice of truth.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 21, 2022 11:00 pm

Maybe because natural increase doesn’t have a “cost” in an accounting sense, so you could argue that “at cost” you didn’t steal nuffink.

I think ‘bern and I were talking normal inventories of goods.
Valuation of natural increase of livestock is a whole different thing.
One thing is for sure.
A day old calf is by no means ‘free’.
And a yearling steer certainly isn’t.

JC
JC
March 21, 2022 11:00 pm

Tim, Cronkers

I don’t quite get it . How do they think they can away wit it because omission is also a lie. They can’t turn around easily and say oh, oh we reported on it almost 2 years later. The truth and bullshit gap is too wide.

Top Ender
Top Ender
March 21, 2022 11:05 pm

How come the coppers who killed that 19 year old in Darwin are not on remand?

I didn’t think the bloke was dead.

This is the wannabe spearman, right?

Six shots fired, dunno how many hit. The media have gone all quiet on it.

Spearman’s name not mentioned, and is he charged?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 21, 2022 11:05 pm

Ben Roberts-Smith‘s alleged ’mistress’ prepares to face court
Perry DuffinNCA NewsWire
Mon, 21 March 2022 2:47P

Ben Roberts-Smith‘s alleged mistress is expected to appear before the defamation trial of the century this week, where lawyers will quiz her on a turbulent relationship with the famed former soldier.

Meanwhile, an SAS officer has told the court he knew it was wrong to speak to journalists to discredit Mr Roberts-Smith’s Victoria Cross award for bravery – but he did it anyway.

Mr Roberts-Smith is suing Nine newspapers and journalists over a series of articles claiming he committed war crimes in Afghanistan, bullied other SAS soldiers and abused a woman they described as his “mistress”.

The retired soldier denies every allegation.

Nine claims Person 17, a lawyer who cannot be identified, dated Mr Roberts-Smith in late 2017 and 2018 while both were still married.

Mr Roberts-Smith has told the court he was separated from his now ex-wife during his relationship with Person 17.

The relationship was marred by mutual distrust and confrontations, the court has heard.

Nine’s most damaging claim is that Mr Roberts-Smith struck Person 17 in the face after she drunkenly fell down some stairs at a ritzy party in Canberra.

Mr Roberts-Smith told the court the fall is what injured the woman and he had stayed up all night caring for her.

On another occasion, the court has heard, Person 17 told Mr Roberts-Smith she was pregnant with his child and they organised for her to have an abortion in Brisbane.

Mr Roberts-Smith told the court he distrusted Person 17 and sent a private investigator to tail her to the clinic – and she emerged looking well.

However, Person 17 met with him at a hotel minutes later, Mr Roberts-Smith said, and appeared frail and sick.

Mr Roberts-Smith said he confronted Person 17 and she revealed she lied about the abortion – she had the procedure elsewhere.

The relationship self-destructed in early 2018, he told the court, when Person 17 showed up at his marital home and revealed herself to Mr Roberts-Smith’s then wife and family.

Person 17’s identity will not be revealed after she told the court, in an affidavit, that she feared people would harass her believing she was a “lying woman trying to bring down a war hero”.

Her evidence will mark a significant change in the trial which has seen Mr Roberts-Smith face his accusers within the SAS for weeks.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 21, 2022 11:09 pm

In ‘Trooble at Mill’ breaking news here is the latest in Furniture Store shenanigans:-
The Great Predictionator Faulty says …

Fair enough.

When this forum disappears in ten weeks time, along with all other such sites of dissent, be sure to write and thank Roberts, Hanson and Kelly for their unswerving defence of democracy.

Time to watch some TV.

NoFixedAddress (who set the place up) replies …

So, you just enjoy hanging shit on people and can’t be bothered giving solutions!
Come 12:am May 31, 2022 you will not have access to this site, according to you, so just to make sure I’ll ask the script monkeys to ban you on that USA date and time.
Enjoy.

Now NFA might be a cranky old nufty but credit where it is due.
That is the best calling of a bluff I have seen in a while.
Golf clap.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 21, 2022 11:13 pm

JCsays:

March 21, 2022 at 11:00 pm

Tim, Cronkers

I don’t quite get it

It smacks of internal Dems manouvering.
It just remains to be seen who gets to carry the can.
Is it to nobble Hillary for good?
To push President HairSniffer under the bus?
Kill someone off before the mid-terms?
Who knows?

Gab
Gab
March 21, 2022 11:22 pm

Helen, would you mind linking to the gofundme account please? For Kim and Dani.

Gab
Gab
March 21, 2022 11:25 pm

Dover, the current petition can be removed as it is closed. Thank you

JC
JC
March 21, 2022 11:26 pm

Sanchez

Back in 2020, a white robed Faultyverse was handing out exact dates for a stockmarket crash, which he suggested was going to be of historic proportions. It’s funny, because almost from the day he began to call an exactly dated crash, the bullmarket began (again) and took on a new life.

What is it with him and these exactly dated predictions? Even the worst palm readers would tell you to stay away from (exact) “carbon dating” always go ambiguous with dates and shit. Another thing I don’t get this evening. 🙂

I don’t the NYTimes pretending they carry the news and Faultyverse handing out exact dates.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 21, 2022 11:27 pm

Amid a storm of damaging headlines in mid-2018, Mr Roberts-Smith hit back at those soldiers calling them “cowards” who were tearing him down from the shadows.

One of his most vehement critics within the SAS is a Warrant Officer Class Two known only as Person 7 who turned secret source for Nine.

Person 7 told the court he shared multiple allegations against Mr Roberts-Smith, including claims of war crimes he did not witness and rumours about the elite soldier’s personal life and family.

Some of the claims were just “petty, childish gossip”, he told Mr Roberts-Smith’s barrister, Arthur Moses SC.

But, Person 7 told the court, he felt it was “a bit rich” for Mr Roberts-Smith to accuse him of cowardice and that motivated him to speak out.

“Wasn’t it a bit rich for you to speak to a journalist anonymously to accuse your colleague of a war crime?” Mr Moses asked.

“You could say it was a bit rich, I did the wrong thing and I knew I was doing the wrong thing… But I still did it,” the soldier responded.

Person 7 had also cast doubt on Mr Roberts-Smith’s many commendations, including the prized Victoria Cross, the top military honour that thrust Mr Roberts-Smith into the national spotlight.

The Victoria Cross was awarded to Mr Roberts-Smith after the legendary battle of Tizak, in 2010, in which he stormed a Taliban machine gun nest to save his mates.

But Person 7 on Monday went line-by-line through Mr Roberts-Smith’s official commendation pointing out what he claims are “lies and embellishments”.

According to the citation, and the official record, Mr Roberts-Smith’s SAS patrol was pinned down by heavy machine gun fire.

Mr Roberts-Smith and a handful of other soldiers advanced on the machine guns, exposing themselves to near certain death to kill the Taliban militants.

Person 7 told the court he wasn’t “brave enough” to be at the front of the assault on the gunners but he concluded Mr Roberts-Smith and another senior soldier had effectively stolen the glory of another SAS operator.

“Are you suggesting Mr Roberts-Smith stole the credit that belonged to others in relation to the Victoria Cross citation?” Mr Moses asked.

“I believe Mr Roberts-Smith and Person 5 may have done that, yes,” Person 7 said.

“It’s a very serious allegation, yes, it’s a very serious thing to do.”

Person 7 disputed multiple parts of the citation – everything from the size of the compound‘s walls to the distance Mr Roberts-Smith ran to the gunners.

He told the court he heard Mr Roberts-Smith had thrown a grenade without removing its pin and one of the insurgents was unarmed.
SAS Corporal Ben Roberts-Smith VC., MG., with the Australian Special Operations Task Group prepares to deploy to the Shah Wali Kot Offensive, Afghanistan, in June 2010. DEPT. OF DEFENCE IMAGE.
Mr Roberts-Smith shortly before the 2010 battle of Tizak, where he would earn his Victoria Cross. Credit: News Corp Australia

The soldier who had his glory allegedly stolen was an SAS operator known as Person 4, the court heard.

Person 4, in his own evidence, told the court he became “bitter” that he did not get a Victoria Cross and claimed he had killed one of the machine gunners.

He also told the court he witnessed Mr Roberts-Smith kick an unarmed Afghan down a cliff before the man was executed by another SAS soldier.

Person 4 told the court he felt Person 7 and other anti-Roberts-Smith soldiers “manipulated” him to speak out against the Victoria Cross recipient using his bitterness about Tizak.

If Ben Roberts Smith is successful in this action, what sort of future do some of these “witnesses” have in the military?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 21, 2022 11:31 pm

Six shots fired, dunno how many hit. The media have gone all quiet on it.

Three hit him. The rest went into a concrete/render wall. Not great, but into a moving target with a handgun across a road, not terrible.

Spearman’s name not mentioned, and is he charged?

No names as he’s not charged yet (but apparently will be). Still in hospital, in ICU. Not guarded, and highly unlikely to be spearing anyone in future.

JC
JC
March 21, 2022 11:32 pm

It smacks of internal Dems manouvering.
It just remains to be seen who gets to carry the can.
Is it to nobble Hillary for good?
To push President HairSniffer under the bus?
Kill someone off before the mid-terms?
Who knows?

Here’s another point though. The NYTimes fingered 50 fuckhead so called intel experts and essentially called them liars and cheats. In the future, who is ever going to lie again to cover demonrat corruption when the NYTimes will out their own allies? You’re not going to get another 50 dirtbags signing a bullshit letter for a long time after this.

custard
custard
March 21, 2022 11:32 pm
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 21, 2022 11:34 pm

JC.
It also isn’t wise to predict blog Armageddon to a grumpy old blog owner who can pull the plug on you.
Prepare for some Torvill and Dean standard backwards skating.

JC
JC
March 21, 2022 11:38 pm

Ummmm , isn’t this a drone?

In only three years, the Royal Australian Air Force’s revolutionary pilotless combat aircraft went from an idea to take to the sky.

Now it has a name: the MQ-28A Ghost Bat, the first warplane in half a century to be designed and built in this country.

As the prototype was wheeled out at Amberley air base west of Brisbane on Monday, Defence Minister Peter Dutton said fast-tracked development was what he wanted – and an increasingly perilous strategic outlook demanded – of defence acquisition … not decades to bring on new weapon systems but a time­frame whittled down to a handful of years.

Instead of developing a drone from scratch, why not buy a few off the shelf?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

I think ‘bern and I were talking normal inventories of goods.

I see the valuation you were talking about.

In the circumstances “Normal” valuation may not be the appropriate term. (If everything was “normal” nobody would be talking about it.)
The actual value is a really grey area & depends which angle the valuation is coming from.
Curiouser & curiouser.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
March 21, 2022 11:44 pm

This is extract from CBC Canada web page article from 18 March. Note the bit about saying Omicron is an escape variant and first two doses do little against it. Then goes on to say take the booster which is exactly the same.

It is yet another example of how the medical experts are letting us down with their BS. Meanwhile our media simply does not seriously challenge the fact people are losing their jobs because don’t want to take a vaccine that clearly does not work against Omicron and for a virus that mainly affects the elderly with comorbidities.

Had 2 not having a third.

“Tam (CHO Canada) said all federal vaccine mandates are under review now because the science tells us the primary series of the COVID-19 vaccine — the first two doses — offers very little protection against the Omicron variant.

While scientists and vaccine developers initially thought those first two shots would reduce transmission of the COVID-19 virus, the emergence of new variants with different characteristics has upended that thinking, Tam said.

Vaccine mandates were first pitched as a way to make some spaces safer by limiting entry to the vaccinated. But given what is now known about the primary series’ effectiveness against transmission, those policies are being reviewed, Tam said.

“The game changer has been an Omicron variant, which is a vaccine-escape variant,” Tam said.

“What we know is that, with the Omicron variant, having two doses — the protection against infection and further transmission goes really low. You really need a third dose to provide augmentation against transmission. All that should be taken into account as the federal government looks at the policies going forward.”

While the first two doses do very little to stop someone from contracting COVID-19, Tam said they still offer some protection against severe outcomes like hospitalization and death.

Boosters are critically important now, Tam says

While Canada’s high vaccination rate has helped protect the country’s hospitals from being overwhelmed to the point of collapse during the Omicron wave, Tam said it’s critically important that more people get a booster dose — a third shot that is even more effective at keeping people out of hospital”.

She said more people over the age of 50 need to get the booster to make Canada’s public health system more resilient as governments begin to lift COVID-19-related measures, such as limits on social gatherings and mask mandates”.

Meanwhile CHO Qld not been heard from for a couple of weeks as more lose their jobs or can’t find new jobs.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 21, 2022 11:47 pm

Like a bat out of hell: pilotless combat aircraft takes flight

Jamie Walker
ASSOCIATE EDITOR
@JamieWalkerOz
2 hours ago March 21, 2022
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In only three years, the Royal Australian Air Force’s revolutionary pilotless combat aircraft went from an idea to take to the sky.

Now it has a name: the MQ-28A Ghost Bat, the first warplane in half a century to be designed and built in this country.

I’m a bit out of touch with these matters – what was the last “warplane” designed and built in this country?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
March 21, 2022 11:50 pm

Instead of developing a drone from scratch, why not buy a few off the shelf?

Fer Strayan conditions.
And jerbs.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

… what was the last “warplane” designed and built in this country?

We’ll be on the same page here.
The Boomerang. Though “half a century” is a bit wide of the mark.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Instead of developing a drone from scratch, why not buy a few off the shelf?

It’ll mean we’ve the skillset here to manufacture them & alter design if circumstances call for it.
If it all hits the fan, we (hopefully) will be able to churn out more, working from chookyards & back sheds if need be.

MatrixTransform
March 21, 2022 11:57 pm

What a day for the dickless, heh?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 21, 2022 11:57 pm

The Boomerang. Though “half a century” is a bit wide of the mark.

CAC Sabre?

John H.
John H.
March 21, 2022 11:57 pm

JCsays:
March 21, 2022 at 11:38 pm
Ummmm , isn’t this a drone?

In only three years, the Royal Australian Air Force’s revolutionary pilotless combat aircraft went from an idea to take to the sky.

Now it has a name: the MQ-28A Ghost Bat, the first warplane in half a century to be designed and built in this country.

As the prototype was wheeled out at Amberley air base west of Brisbane on Monday, Defence Minister Peter Dutton said fast-tracked development was what he wanted – and an increasingly perilous strategic outlook demanded – of defence acquisition … not decades to bring on new weapon systems but a time­frame whittled down to a handful of years.

Instead of developing a drone from scratch, why not buy a few off the shelf?

Designed here by people working for a US contractor. It is just Uncle Sam spreading some money around. The drone is probably the final product of many prior prototypes.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

CAC Sabre?

We’ve built a few, design is another matter.
AFAIK the Boomerang is the only one totally designed here. (Though the Wirraway may have been used as a starting point)

John H.
John H.
March 21, 2022 11:59 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
March 21, 2022 at 11:57 pm
The Boomerang. Though “half a century” is a bit wide of the mark.

CAC Sabre?

The failed Nomad?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 22, 2022 12:08 am

The failed Nomad?

Umm, yeah, sounds about right.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Nomad, lol. When you said “warplane”, I was thinking of an actual….. warplane.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 22, 2022 12:17 am

WA gun laws: McGowan Government to rewrite State’s legislation as shocking data reveals extent of ownership
Peter Law
The West Australian
Mon, 21 March 2022 8:30PM

WA’s outdated firearms laws will be completely rewritten by the McGowan Government, as shocking new maps reveal the true scale of gun ownership in suburban Perth.

The maps — provided to The West Australian from the WA Police Force database — show how prolific the potentially lethal weapons have become in every corner of the city.

Each green dot represents a house where a handgun – such as a revolver or pistol – is being stored, while the thousands of blue dots are for longarm guns like rifles and shotguns.

The number of licenced guns in WA has soared from 218,765 in 2009 to 349,492 in January this year — an increase of 60 per cent in 13 years.

Over the same time period, the number of WA residents who hold a gun licence has remained static at just over 89,000. This means, on average, each licence holder now has four guns.

Police Minister Paul Papalia admitted to being “quite taken aback” by the sheer prevalence of guns in Perth when he first viewed the police maps, saying there was “barely a street in the State without a firearms licence holder”.

No chance of overthrowing the McGowan regime by force of arms, then?

John H.
John H.
March 22, 2022 12:19 am

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupiditysays:
March 22, 2022 at 12:12 am
Nomad, lol. When you said “warplane”, I was thinking of an actual….. warplane.

I think it was marketed as a military utility aircraft. What you are thinking of is something Pakistan(with China), India, Israel, China, Sweden, France, Japan, South Korea(with Indonesia an uncooperative partner), have built.

We’re complete crap when it comes to original design. This stupid bloody country. Lose the manufacturing base and a whole lot of intellectual capital goes with it. We have been and remain so bloody stupid. A politician could never made those statements but it is high time someone in politics pointed out to Australians that we while do great on the sporting field in the intellectual field we are F for Fail.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 22, 2022 12:24 am

Lose the manufacturing base and a whole lot of intellectual capital goes with it

Thanks very much, Goof Whitlam and the Lima accord.

Went on a river cruise, down the Murray River a few years ago. Went past the closed down Horwood Bagshaw factory on the way. Just about summed it all up.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

WA’s outdated firearms laws will be completely rewritten by the McGowan Government, as shocking new maps reveal the true scale of gun ownership in suburban Perth.

Question for this j’ismist Peter Law, who in my opinion is a flog, what is (a) shocking about the map, & (b) wtf is wrong with lotsa lotsa gun ownership?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

What you are thinking of is something Pakistan(with China), India, Israel, China, Sweden, France, Japan, South Korea(with Indonesia an uncooperative partner), have built.

I was thinking of the actual Nomad, which is about as much a warplane as a Dixie & KFS set is a “weapon of war”.
(Though I see lotsa ppl to the north of us are using the Nomad, or something like it, in military use, perhaps to carry rations to patrols who got lost on exercise or something.)

You’re not wrong though, for a start I was, Hahahaha, actually thinking of the Neptune.
“Nomad” just didn’t register in the context of warplane.

(Given the choice of a Nomad or a Nepture, I’m not sure which I’d least like to go to war in.)

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 22, 2022 12:38 am

Question for this j’ismist Peter Law, who in my opinion is a flog, what is (a) shocking about the map, & (b) wtf is wrong with lotsa lotsa gun ownership?

Salvatore, don’t ask me how I know, but Perth coppers have been piZZing themselves for some time now, that lots of guns in the community, might (shock, horror) tempt the population into ( more shock, horror) taking the law into their own hands (end of the shock, horror, let the concentrated knicker wetting begin.

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“The monitoring was from her own side, which didn’t trust her. Kitching, a Victorian Labor MP who died on March 10, complained that Labor colleague Tim Ayres had been placed on two parliamentary committees with her, one that monitored government administration and another on foreign affairs and defence policy. Ayers was also assigned to sit next to her in the second row of the Senate chamber.”
Kitching believed Labor senator was ordered to monitor her afr paywalled

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