dumbest thing I’ve heard since last Monday morning

and that’s saying something

Why’s that?

Because your Thought Leader is nuffing about spikes of everyone dying worldwide? In response to a pair of class enemies talking specifically about a small cohort of elderly and immunocompromised Australians?

So why has there been a policy of being extremely careful with the use of AstraZeneca on the particularly elderly, immunocompromised and people with clotting issues since the first adverse reactions were raised, Struth?

I very specifically talked about the elderly and immunocompromised with AZ, as was Rosie.

How do they know who’s who, and who is immunocompromised or could have clotting issues etc etc etc, without checking everyone including children.
You are an illogical liar.

You’re here to obfuscate and dribble shit.

So, just in one short morning here again, we see the absolutely insane illogical and twisted arguments of those who will not see what they don’t want to see and don’t care if you die either.

Take your pick, but do some fucking research.
You’ll note the ones who oppose me the most never do any and sit here 24/7 poo pooing everything presented like the evil ignoramuses they are.

It’s always been your choice.
How many jabs are you going to get?
Will you actually kill yourself by complying with tyrannical government?
And to the silent posters here who know decency, and understand what doing the right thing by your fellow man is, I hope one day you gain your voice.

Calli and dot, that is what a lot of people are suggesting as well. These people are engaging in hysteria porn and have lost their senses.

It’s conundrum, Dover.

With all the propaganda. Are people supposed to blindly accept it’s real or venture into the dark side.

Like the great follower of Sun-T Zoo, Tony Soprano said:

What got us here was psychiatry and cunnilingus.

How do they know who’s who, and who is immunocompromised or could have clotting issues etc etc etc, without checking everyone including children.
You are an illogical liar.

Because until 10 minutes ago, relatively speaking, children were not being recommended to take any vaccine for covid, let alone AstraZeneca.

You also are clearly stupid enough to assume that anyone who goes to their GP or a clinic and goes though even a cursory exercise of record-checking with their medico has everything about them ignored in the rush to put something in their arm.

That concept does, I agree, play into your personal prejudices. But Rosie and I have tried to explain things. You just don’t want to listen.

You’re here to obfuscate and dribble shit.

Sorry, champ. But that’s your pulpit. And you’ll suffer no-one to share it with you…

These people are engaging in hysteria porn and have lost their senses.

Not really dover. It worked very well in scaring the public shitless during covid, so they are just reverting to tried and true method. The general ignorance of the public makes the strategy very effective.

What is the story with Victoria?

I’ve only been asked to show my cert at the cinema. Nowhere else. Nobody cares.

Thanks for the answers guys.

That particular caravan has moved on then.

All that remains, as Indolent pointed out last night, is the disgusting behaviour of certain private enterprise both small and large to mandate vaccines for their staff. Thus violating an individual’s right to choose whether to undertake a medical procedure or not.

This is where both Morrison and Albanese fail at the first hurdle. Neither objected to this, rather both actively promoted it. Apart from members of parliament and federal employees, of course.

I understand the requirement for workers in certain areas. Not the checkout chick and Woolies or Spotlight.

All that remains, as Indolent pointed out last night, is the disgusting behaviour of certain private enterprise both small and large to mandate vaccines for their staff. Thus violating an individual’s right to choose whether to undertake a medical procedure or not.

And they won’t dare drop any of it until the pollies and wonks who invented and aggressively enforced threatened such policies relent.

Disagreement is a good thing. Arguments put up here have changed my mind or modified my ideas. Sometimes you simply need more information or a different viewpoint.

So, why then are some elderly folks treated more carefully due to clot risks etc., Matrix?

Could it be that the general assertion is not always the case? And that those of us who are younger and healthier and fitter than the identified at-risk very old and very young are the only ones just being blithely jabbed?

It’s pretty hard to overcome or ignore adverse reaction and surveillance policy for the sake of vaxxx ideology. Especially with the elderly. Younger and healthier folks with apparently ‘lower’ risks, not so much.

Hrm. Le Pen paying $6.60. I like those odds. Thoughts?

On the other hand if they speak insane meandering, disjointed, dark repetitive dribble they are in insane.

Try getting a medical exemption.

That doesn’t relate to what I am talking about.

The argument I am referring to, is that nobody at all has been screened or checked or their issues looked into by their medicos because jabs must go in arms, no matter the cost. My example of the immunocompromised and clot issue-affected family friend, amongst others out there, puts the lie to the claim.

The process of obtaining medical exemptions being made effectively impossible was a mean-spirited act to prevent canny and conscientious patients and providers alike from being able to exercise personal choice, and I furiously agree that this was and remains a dog act.

And I’ll say it again, in case someone reads the first sentence and shuts down-

The process of obtaining medical exemptions being made effectively impossible was a mean-spirited act to prevent canny and conscientious patients and providers alike from being able to exercise personal choice, and I furiously agree that this was and remains a dog act.

Nuland did say, Fuck the EU. Roger, I no longer buy the ‘stuff up most likely, conspiracy remote’ line anymore.

Yats is the guy!

What happened in 2014 at the macro level isn’t even in question anymore (unless you refuse to consider the smoking-gun evidence, which is a fairly big chunk of people). The Yanks and their surrogates engineered a regime change operation. There are certainly unresolved issues about what happened on the ground in Maidan, principally: who were those snipers and who gave them their orders?

The least likely suspect is Yanukovych and his people. He had the most to lose, he treated the Maidan protesters with kid gloves for the entire time – in hindsight, I’m sure he regrets not taking a harder line in clearing out the square – it just doesn’t make sense for him to suddenly decide to change tactics and send in terror snipers to pick off both protesters and riot police.

The system won’t let Le Pen win.

Yah. The Frog equivalent of the Libs is backing Macron.

At least they do have paper ballots, voter ID and in-person voting. I’d be watching the vote tally computers very closely though.

Matrix, all my jabbed and boosted family have had it. Some became very unwell, others shrugged it off. Completely idiosyncratic, nothing to do with underlying health conditions it appears. One of the “shruggers” is a chronic asthmatic.

It’s currently working its way through all the retirement villages here – just about everyone is jabbed to the eyeballs. I know a couple of holdouts- it will be interesting see if they get it and how they fare.

For myself and the Beloved, we’re still waiting. Maybe we’ve had the rotten thing and don’t know it. Tough old buggers.

Look at the above few comments.

Sancho, before 2020 knew vaccines only protected those that took them and not those around the recipient.
We all knew that.
We all knew that vaccinated people could carry and spread the naughty germs.
We all knew that.
Once minds are lost, even the most ridiculous comment by him has been accepted as middle of the road common sense.
IT’S BULLSHIT, and many of you have become insane.
There’s no need to vaccinate somebody else to protect the unvaccinated.
There’s no need to vaccinate somebody else to protect the vaccinated.

Insanity.
And most of you thought, oh yes, Sancho is being reasonable.
In 2019 if you asked Sancho (and he didn’t lie) whether taken a vaccine will protect other people around you he would have laughed in your face.
You all would have.

Dover, you must be jabbed yourself if you can’t see the level of insanity here.

With the government completely criminal, and the media paid off and well in bed with them, they are talking all sorts of bullshit we know to be insane.
One most disgusting lie is the vaccines are safe.
Between them and the scoffing retards here who want to believe the government line, who is giving you an alternatives to the lies?
Choo Choo?
Notafan?
Where else can you get the real news when the government has been gaslighting with 24/7 propaganda and lost inconsiderate arseholes even on so called centre right blogs do all they can to stop people hearing from non gov , non globalist experts, where are you going to get it from?

Due to the arrogance, ignorance and 24/7 presence of the little gang of sneerers and a few other denialists, this blog HAS become mentally sick.
That’s just a fact dover.
And not anly that, many of your good Nazis here now want to get on with things and find listening to the Jews point out what they are, tedious…………

It’s very sick here, Dover.

Rex, you’re own worst enemy.
calm down

Why are you assuming I am not?

To explain Rex.
Trucks and trains.
He got pulled up lying and went on with it for weeks.

He didn’t get pulled up by me.
But he had a tantrum about it for weeks.

Funny shit, yes, but very sad also.

Rex spews gibber for weeks
clumsily pivots around an issue today
and then bitches and moans about being Ms understood.

Wrong.

You and all your nuffy friends live on the assumption that everything is being done out of malign and wicked intent, jabs going in arms regardless of the cost.

And you get mightily annoyed any time anyone with a slightly better understanding of the medical system than you points out that there is still some form of logical process out there. Even if political imperatives and fads make everything rushed and haphazard.

Too many people on this blog spend waaaaaay too much effort cultivating their personal beefs with each other.

He got pulled up lying and went on with it for weeks.

He didn’t get pulled up by me.
But he had a tantrum about it for weeks

Wrong. But an impressive projection.

You never proved your ambit that rail freight companies are subsidised to exist. And the financial reports of the single biggest rail freight company in Australia prove your lie.

The railway they ride on, those companies competing for freight get to use solely for doing so are subsidised by the taxpayer.
A complete rort, and make work for unionists.

That was settled back then.
You stomping your feet changes nothing comrade Choo choo.

Re Macron v Le Pen, Zemmour has endorsed Le Pen. A few of the others are going to prefer status quo so it is going to depend on how Melenchon’s votes split. It’s interesting how ‘Conservative’ and ‘Socialist’ candidates are falling in behind the establishment candidate, Macron. Politics appears to be becoming less ideological and more pragmatic.

I think a pretty decent chunk of his support will be looking for a candidate offering genuine change and will be willing to go for Le Pen.

Whatis it with all the proof of WEF UN control, people will not have a bar of it?

Aside from controlling who the people are permitted to vote for, how do you fix a French election?

People are getting colds now.
I’m sitting in the barbers listening to women talk about who’s had it and who hasn’t and who’s had to isolate.
For a fucking regular cold at best….or completely “asymptomatic ” another name for well.
They love this shit.
Because Australians are the most boring people on earth.
It’s filled a void that’s never been truly explored.
The cultureless, overbearing nanny state void of nothingness that in times past made women create family dramas out to be national disasters worthy of 24/7 over emotion.
Now they have COVID.
And no men willing to kick their arses and tell them to stop it.

Rex … just stop the gibbering

and it all the issues that your petty one-up-manship has created will go away.

be a fucking grown-up

You first

Loopy stuff.

Go on….

dover0beachsays:
April 11, 2022 at 11:18 am
Politics appears to be becoming less ideological and more pragmatic.

I’d be delighted if pragmatic entailed a more evidence based approach to policy making but all too often it is developing rhetorical strategies to win elections.

Out at Warwick Farm they were busy chatting up all the local girls.

Or so my father tells me. 😀

I have no problem with the RNA platform – it strikes me as incredible technology – I was surprised to read several months back that it’s been used in experimental cancer treatments for years and has been successful (I wasn’t surprised about its success – more that I hadn’t heard about it before.)

In principle, I have no problem with it being used as a vaccine platform. However, any new medication needs to be tested thoroughly and its safety profile clearly established via a transparent and disinterested process before it can be brought to market (with the exception of right to try candidates who are cactus anyway). Unfortunately, no such regulatory system exists and hasn’t existed for decades.

Try a little experiment. I find it helpful.

Read the comments without referring to the commenter’s name. Explore the merits of the comment – is it true? Is it insightful? Is it funny? Does it give me the sh*ts?

Then read the name.

I occasionally get half a paragraph into a Struth post before scrolling back to confirm the name. 🙂

Someone ask him what a woman is.

Opposition Leader Anthony Albanese provides wrong answer on unemployment figure and fails to reply to cash rate (Sky News, 11 Apr)

Opposition Leader Anthony Albanese has stumbled heavily on the first day of the Federal Election campaign where he provided the wrong answer to Australia’s current national unemployment figure.

The Labor leader, who kicked off the drive for votes in Tasmania, has been spruiking and “fighting” for Australians who are unemployed but when he was quizzed by reporters at a press conference in Tasmania on Monday morning, he repeatedly tried to dodge a standard question.

Mr Albanese skipped over the question twice on the nation’s unemployment figure and then attempted to answer it when asked a third time by Sky News Political Editor Andrew Clennell.
…
“The national unemployment rate at the moment is … I think it’s 5.4,” he said, from the ultra-marginal seat of Bass on Monday.

“Sorry. I’m not sure what it is.”

A reporter then called for his Shadow Finance Minister, Senator Katy Gallagher, to see whether she knew the answer as she would be potentially in charge of the portfolio.

“The Reserve Bank current rate is 0.10. And the unemployment rate is at 4 per cent,” she correctly answered in response.

I can see who is wearing the trousers in that pair. Oops, am I allowed to say that?

Antony Green is overrated. A big fish in a small pond. The ABC has deified him and turned him into a ‘national treasure’. He isn’t all that, in my opinion.

Oh come onsays:
April 11, 2022 at 12:05 pm
There was nothing “transparent and disinterested”

Did you actually read my comment?

Did you read mine because I was supporting your argument? My reference to transparent and disinterested was to highlight while that is admirable there is typically some level of personal involvement in all such decisions. A “disinterested scientist” is almost an oxymoron because the best are often the most interested and personally committed to the goal.

Did you read mine because I was supporting your argument?

I did. It read as though you were schooling me on matters one could reasonably infer from my comment that I would already be aware of. In short, it sounded condescending. If this was not your intent, I apologise.

‘Le Pen paying $6.60’ That’s Kenny Callander odds!

Sorry that’s Sportsbet at $4.50 to win.

I have no problem with the RNA platform

OCO – The problem is that you are lining the surfaces of blood vessels with a molecular group which the immune system recognizes as an antigen.

Consequently you are setting yourself up for three things: inflammation of blood vessel linings (and related tissues, like the inside walls of your heart), you are flagging those cells for destruction by killer T-cells, because they present as being “infected”, and you are inviting autoimmune diseases by having other activated lymphocytes latching onto normal surface molecules as they’re trying to find and kill the “infection”.

That is the overall problem with mRNA treatments. For Covid there’s the additional problem that the vaccine causes death of the T-lymphocytes that recognize it, thereby stripping those out of your immune system defenses, which is why protection goes negative once the antibodies have disappeared. I don’t think that is an issue for other mRNA therapies, but the first three still represent serious problems.

It would be justifiable to use this technology if the issue was really life threatening, like a contagious version of ebola. Or otherwise untreatable cancer. But not for the common cold or flu.

The way forward is to combine the mRNA package into a micelle with receptors on its surface that selectively bind to target cells – like a tumor. That would overcome the three baddies, since you wouldn’t be “infecting” the blood vessel lining cells.

Unfortunately that’s difficult and the technology isn’t at that point. And if it was it would make more sense to keep the receptor-coated micelle and replace the mRNA with a non-coding anticancer molecule (or etc for other issues). That would be simpler and cheaper, and would be derived from the Novavax approach.

I am not vaccinated against Covid for these reasons, and I’m seriously reconsidering fluvax since Big Pharma have made it clear they intend to use mRNA for that too. I’m fine with the killed-virus fluvax grown in eggs, which I’ve had each year for nearly 20 years. But I’m not going to get a mRNA fluvax, I have enough allergies as it is.

I was, obviously, referring to astrazeneca,

No you weren’t.
You said it about all vaccines.
You’re a back peddling liar.

both in terms of the treatment of patients who developed clots and the encouragement to consider other vaccines for those at risk of clots, in fact it seems the use of astrazeneca is being phased out in Australia.

This is pure crap.
As if all people are doing is getting some slight pains and then seeing their doctors and all is fixed, tickety boo.

Warnie should have just got off the bed and said, gee, I feel a bit off today, I think I’ll see my quack.

Jabs are going in arms regardless, and in many places not in doctors surgeries.
See how they make it sound?

The denialists…it’s all done above board and the doctors are checking everyone out who might be prone to anything.
UTTER LYING BOLLOCKS…and dangerous lies.
DANGEROUS lies.

Kids are going in with their parent unable to be with them in great entertainment centres and venues by people who have only just learned to stick the pointy end of the needle in.
Pharmacies are going jabs….
The fucking dishonesty just keeps going and the bullshit builds upon itself if you don’t nipthis shit in the bud.

Shocking to think the Australian medical establishment don’t want people dying of vaccine side effects.

They are killing people instead of losing their jobs, that’s the shocking reality.
Death by the jab is being denied by doctors everywhere…whatchagonna do when you’re not a quack ?

And of course ordinary people are incapable of assessing their own health risks, they all need someone like struth to give them his expert medical advice.

Supplying many links here to help people with that decision giving an opposing reality to the bullshit narrative of criminal government that notafan shills for, is not giving medical advice, you dishonest w…re of a woman, it’s bringing news which is not propaganda.
If it was left up to the likes of you, we’d all be jabbing ourselves to death, as you offer nothing but support of the lying government narrative by lying yourself.
“A real piece of work”, as some might actually describe you as.

Sick of headless chooks running around hysterically calling others names (and their pathetic one eyed white knights).

I assure you, you cannot begin to know how many are sick of you.

UTTER LYING BOLLOCKS…and dangerous lies.
DANGEROUS lies.

Struth clearly does not like his GP…

Comic Sans font be damned.

Everyone knows what’s really needed is a medieval Old English font.

The one Magna Carta’s written in. And the Maritime Law 1619 booklet.

I have no idea why my personal belief, regardless of where it came from has not been accepted and embraced by all assembled, lurkers included.

I want. I want. A medieval font. Otherwise this will become the most boring country on Earth, full of boring people being boring.

I’m sitting in the barbers listening to women talk about who’s had it and who hasn’t and who’s had to isolate.

They’re probably making sandwiches and changing out pairs of slippers.

Sancho Panzersays:
April 11, 2022 at 12:49 pm
I’ve been trying to follow the “read the post before checking who posted it” rule.
However some reveal their identity very early in the first couple of paras.

It is that tiresome repetition which justifies the scrolling. I read enough already and am not compelled in any sense to give a fair reading to those who have consistently demonstrated repetitiveness or wrongology or just plain tediousness.

Mykhailo Podoliak, Adviser to the Head of the Presidential Office of Ukraine, stated that President Volodymyr Zelenskyy will meet with Russian President Vladimir Putin after Ukraine wins major battles, including the battle over Donbas.

Whether [we can] just say that in a week or two we will meet at presidential level … No. It will happen as follows. Ukraine is ready for major battles, Ukraine must win these battles, including the battle over Donbas. After that Ukraine will have a more substantial negotiating position to dictate certain terms. After that, the presidents will meet. It may take two weeks, it may take three.”

mariupol anybody?

Is Albanese ill?

Too much sugar water.