Open Thread – Weekend 9 April


Yarilin Valley, Viktor Vasnetsov, 1885

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Dot
Dot
April 11, 2022 2:17 pm

The dissident pro Russian tweets are cool until you run into the pro CCP tweets.

bespoke
bespoke
April 11, 2022 2:18 pm

11 deaths may sound alarming but is it above known risk.

calli
calli
April 11, 2022 2:19 pm

One thing for sure though. They’re walking the hysteria back.

Bennett is definitely more trustworthy than the rabid Raina MacIntyre.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
April 11, 2022 2:19 pm

Telenko has an interesting tweet today on the Orlan-10 UAV. The Ukrainians captured one nearly intact and pulled it apart. It’s made from bits you could buy in Bunnings, just about – including a plastic drink bottle for the petrol tank! Pundits are saying how shonky a design it is but I think it’s a very neat bit of kit, very cheap to make with readily available parts. Unfortunately some of those parts probably aren’t available in Russia now, but I’m sure Chinese-sourced bits and pieces could be gotten instead – since that’s where the stuff in Bunnings mainly comes from anyway.

ISIL was flying quadcopters carrying single 60mm mortar bombs back in 2012-14, and had the little bastards set up with remote releases, too.

Democratisation of technology, folks. You could roll into a hobby store for your motors, RC kit and fuel system bits, Bunnings for your fuselage bits and adhesives (Assuming you didn’t want to be lazy and just adapt an existing RC Almost Ready to Fly kitplane), an agri co-op for the makings for your explosive filling, and ultimately produce yourself something very similar. Of course, it (and you also) might not survive its assembly, and a switched opponent could jam it or shoot it down before it gets to hit its target, but it can be done by someone with a moderate skill level and a lot of 5-minute epoxy…

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 11, 2022 2:20 pm

JC, I was just thinking that Musk is no cold, hard, calculating Warren Buffet when it comes to this stuff.
Not to say he is an idiot by any stretch but, if there are no regulatory hurdles, I can see him being a mischievous bastard and yanking the chain every few weeks to frighten the horses.
Probably even posting teasers on Twatter itself.

JC
JC
April 11, 2022 2:21 pm

Wow

BREAKING: Elon Musk declines to join Twitter board of directors

WTF?

JC
JC
April 11, 2022 2:25 pm

Hahahahahahahahahahaha

In a more recent poll, Musk asked if the social media company should “Convert Twitter SF HQ to homeless shelter since no one shows up anyway.” That suggestion received 91.3% support.

Oh, this dude says, it may mean he could be going hostile.

Elon may be preparing a bid for a majority stake in the shares – in other words, a hostile takeover. As a member of the board his maximum stake could only be 14%. Stay tuned.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/elon-musk-declines-to-join-twitter-board-of-directors

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 11, 2022 2:25 pm

calli at 2:19.
A story which is wall-to-wall “No shit, Sherlock.”
Asymptomatic cases? Really?
People avoiding tying their whole family in knots for weeks with a series of daisy-chain cases in the same household? Inconceivable?
Of course, in the WFH with Full Pay world of the ABC and academia, these questions never arise.

bespoke
bespoke
April 11, 2022 2:28 pm

$30 for a drone FC and $20 GPS. that can do way ponts. Last time I cheked.

Mine cost consderably more but are out of date now.

Helen
Helen
April 11, 2022 2:29 pm

Eyrie says:
April 11, 2022 at 1:51 pm

Eyrie, dunno, he saw/heard it on wargoogle or something and said he’ d give anything to have a ride in one of them: What? Sez I? and I wrote it down.

Supposedly a Mustang, P38 with turbo power which was known as an Enforcer. His Dad flew Mustangs so he is a bit in love with them.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 11, 2022 2:29 pm

Ha ha, JC.
What did I say about Musk-Rat being a mischievous bastard?
Right on cue.
Playing with their heads already.
This is going to require a mega-box of popcorn.

JC
JC
April 11, 2022 2:32 pm

So Musk is in the tent and about to piss all over them. He made the CEO look like an idiot, which I’m sure was deliberate.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 11, 2022 2:33 pm

Albo could still blow this. He is a deeply unimpressive individual.

JC
JC
April 11, 2022 2:36 pm

Get a load of the Twitter website detailing the board of directors. They had added Musk’s name to the list and he’s declined. They just assumed he was going to take their offer. What a shit show. The CEO has been made to look like a total buffoon.

https://investor.twitterinc.com/corporate-governance/board-of-directors/default.aspx

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 11, 2022 2:36 pm

Here’s a question for Elf bureacrats.
Assume there is a family of six living in a house.
Day 1 – Dad gets crook and tests positive.
Everyone isolates for seven days.
Day 6 – Dad is due out of iso tomorrow and everyone else does a Day 6 RAT. Mum tests positive.
Theoretically the seven days starts again for everyone. And this could go on for weeks if they all catch it in series.
Dad has just had it and recovered. He has minimum three months natural immunity. Why does he have to isolate?
What happens in the real world?
Mum’s RAT test goes in the bin and dad heads off to work and the kids go back to school.

Makka
Makka
April 11, 2022 2:38 pm

Mariupol is now a clean-up operation.

And the nazi brigade there iss none too happy;

Tony
@Cyberspec1
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3h
#RussiaUkraine #AzovRegiment
Another video from the Azov commander “Kalina” in #Mariupol in which he says they’ve been betrayed

https://twitter.com/Cyberspec1/status/1513318693345787904

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 11, 2022 2:39 pm

JC has Musk got free cash to take another bite out of Twatter?

Bazinga
Bazinga
April 11, 2022 2:40 pm

I heard KFC were releasing an Albanese commemorative bucket of chicken. It’s full of left wings and bums.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 11, 2022 2:41 pm

JCsays:

April 11, 2022 at 2:36 pm

Get a load of the Twitter website detailing the board of directors. They had added Musk’s name to the list and he’s declined. 

That is just plain sloppy company secretarial work.

JC
JC
April 11, 2022 2:48 pm

I don’t get it, Sanchez. He also asked if Twitter is “dying”? But why spend $3 billion plus and then ask the question. Maybe he wants the stock to go down in order to buy more cheaper?

Dunno.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 11, 2022 2:52 pm

Elon may be preparing a bid for a majority stake in the shares – in other words, a hostile takeover. As a member of the board his maximum stake could only be 14%. 

JC.
I realise that is just a comment under the article, but a board member being restricted to 14%?
There must be heaps of examples of board members holding more than 14%.

JC
JC
April 11, 2022 2:55 pm

Yea, I didn’t think of that.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
April 11, 2022 2:55 pm

rosiesays:
April 11, 2022 at 1:48 pm

Professor Catherine Bennett, chair in epidemiology at Deakin University, told AAP FactCheck the public could be confident in the figures because of the stringent reporting and investigation processes used in cases of reported deaths.

“An expert clinical panel looks at each reported death,” she said, adding that these experts had access to doctors’ reports and medical records, and could request other tests.

It obviously needs repeating.
See here from Queensland Health’s website.
Where the doctor is comfortable the death is from a natural cause unrelated to the COVID-19 vaccine, the doctor is encouraged to issue a cause of death certificate. The death does not need to be discussed with or reported to the coroner.
But…
Doctors assessing if the death is from a natural cause unrelated to the COVID-19 vaccine should ask themselves these
questions:
Has the vaccine directly caused the death?
• Has the vaccine caused a side effect or complication that has caused or significantly hastened the person’s death?
• Is there a need to reference the COVID-vaccine and/or a vaccine-related complication on the cause of death certificate?
If the answer to any of these questions is yes/possibly/probably/likely or unclear the doctor should seek advice from
the Coronial Registrar, Coroners Court of Queensland during business hours on (07) 3738 7050 or after hours on (07)
3738 7166.

Just to spell it out even for the most obtuse, in Qld (and I don’t know whether it’s the same elsewhere):
(a) a doctor can freely issue death certificates saying the vaxx wasn’t a factor;
(b) but if the doctor asks “has the vaccine directly caused the death” and answers “yes”, the doctor is not supposed to issue a death certificate – they’re supposed to “seek advice” from a government agency.
In the circumstances, rigorous analysis of “reported” deaths may not mean much.


https://www.health.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0023/1094621/covid-vaccine-certifying-death.pdf

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity
Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity
April 11, 2022 2:58 pm

…a board member being restricted to 14%?
There must be heaps of examples of board members holding more than 14%.

The 14% was in the conditions Twitter offered to Musk: “We’ll let you have a seat on the board, on lotsa conditions, including you must not acquire more than 14% of the shares”
They were trying to control him.

The botty-pucker factor at Twitter HQ must really be at 11/10 right now.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
April 11, 2022 3:00 pm

Plenty of social media mines laid in the Ukraine.
The unwary could end up covered in bullshit.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
April 11, 2022 3:01 pm

Albo could still blow this. He is a deeply unimpressive individual.

Even the friendly media is paying out on him:

Grauniad:
Q: I don’t want to get melodramatic here. But is this a day you lost the election?

Their ABC
Anthony Albanese stumbles, can’t name cash or unemployment rate on day one of federal election campaign

FinRev
The only upside of Albanese’s day 2 shocker is it wasn’t day 40

Not quite “It’s Time”.

Probably not enough to save ScoMo, but the Indies can all sleep at night. Unlikely that there’s a popular Labor tsunami coming that will unsettle them.

rosie
rosie
April 11, 2022 3:02 pm

Yes Calli.
I can’t say I’m keeping close watch but back in supercomputer days Bennett was the voice of reason in relation to insane Victorian lockdowns.

JC
JC
April 11, 2022 3:03 pm

The 14% was in the conditions Twitter offered to Musk: “We’ll let you have a seat on the board, on lotsa conditions, including you must not acquire more than 14% of the shares”
They were trying to control him.

Oh Okay, so they actually tried to condition him? That wouldn’t work with Musk.

rosie
rosie
April 11, 2022 3:05 pm

Tim,
That seems to suggest that doctors, in general, have an interest in covering up covid deaths.
I’m not convinced.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 11, 2022 3:05 pm

Even the friendly media is paying out on him:

The mathematics are clearly on the Liars side. SloMo could clearly lose it in either Qld or WA alone.

JC
JC
April 11, 2022 3:05 pm

The Twitter CEO has posted extensively in the past hating on whites. The pudgy faced dick has to go.

John H.
John H.
April 11, 2022 3:08 pm

bespokesays:
April 11, 2022 at 2:02 pm
Cheers John

Do you think there is plenty of scope for human error?

Rhetorical question.

bespoke
bespoke
April 11, 2022 3:11 pm

Rhetorical question.

Sort of John I can think of some but rather more detailed list.

bespoke
bespoke
April 11, 2022 3:12 pm

but would rather a more detailed list.

flyingduk
flyingduk
April 11, 2022 3:13 pm

I am not vaccinated against Covid for these reasons, and I’m seriously reconsidering fluvax since Big Pharma have made it clear they intend to use mRNA for that too.

Indeed, the whole COVAX shit show has cast a light on the existing, similar fluvax business model:

1) Push annual shots for a virus that changes rapidly.
2) Said shots are likely already obsolete at the time of administration, being developed from last years strain.
3) They tell us we need to do it to protect grandma.
4) It doesn’t work and grandma dies anyway.
5) Rinse and repeat next year..

I too will be a LOT more choosy on what I let them jab me with in future, and thats even before considering the possibility that they might be outright lying about the contents of the shot itself.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
April 11, 2022 3:15 pm

On Musk rejecting a Board seat.

Smart move.
Avoiding lawfare re: breaching director’s fiduciary duties.

MatrixTransform
April 11, 2022 3:16 pm

Dad has just had it and recovered. He has minimum three months natural immunity. Why does he have to isolate?

because they say so.

What happens in the real world?

I have multiple acquaintances that have been caught up in that exact scenario

John H.
John H.
April 11, 2022 3:16 pm

rosiesays:
April 11, 2022 at 3:05 pm
Tim,
That seems to suggest that doctors, in general, have an interest in covering up covid deaths.
I’m not convinced.

(b) but if the doctor asks “has the vaccine directly caused the death” and answers “yes”, the doctor is not supposed to issue a death certificate – they’re supposed to “seek advice” from a government agency.

Rosie it is not a matter of covering up covid deaths, I don’t doctors are consciously doing that but paragraph b certainly encourages doctors to deny a covid related death because they are already fed up with bureaucracy and prefer to avoid it.

It is atrocious that such laws and regulations can be written. It clearly biases the doctors towards a specific decision. Whether or not intentional I don’t know but whoever drafted that protocol is probably so ignorant about the foibles of human cognition they should restrict their employment roles to coding or working on remote weather stations.

We can only guess at the true numbers but I don’t think it is going to be such a huge number. There are probably more people bleeding out from aspirin and other thinners than vaccine related deaths. There are certainly many times more dying from medical error.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 11, 2022 3:16 pm

The botty-pucker factor at Twitter HQ must really be at 11/10 right now.

The 9.2% cost something like $2.6 billion iirc. He paid eleven billion in tax last year alone, from the Tesla share sales. So he’s probably got a lazy twenty or twenty five billion sitting in the bank right now. Entire TWTR market cap is $37B. Yep, I’d say you’re right about the pucker factor.

shatterzzz
April 11, 2022 3:20 pm

What happens in the real world?

This is happening in one of my daughter’s households .. one tested positive .. rest in ISO .. 6 days on another tests pos and ISO, supposed to start again .. my advice .. STOP TAKING TESTS FFS! .. ignored ..
So now another tests pos … too WOKE to work it out but then again they do reside in Danistan where, apparently, RULZ is RULZ! .. LOL!

rickw
rickw
April 11, 2022 3:20 pm

Albo could still blow this. He is a deeply unimpressive individual.

The reason he’s in politics. He’d be flat out getting beyond shelf stacking at Godfrey’s in the real world.

rickw
rickw
April 11, 2022 3:23 pm

STOP TAKING TESTS FFS!

Mongistan…. Must follow rules….. Must take test…… All hail The Great Bat Eared Mong protector!

flyingduk
flyingduk
April 11, 2022 3:23 pm

Dad has just had it and recovered. He has minimum three months natural immunity

So say our wise health diktators, but the 3 month figure is ass-plucked. Its probably longer than that, but in reality, you are NEVER fully immune to a fast changing respiratory virus. You get a great foundation after natural infection, but you need repeated exposure to ‘update’ your antivirus software constantly as the virus changes. Most times, the variant you get exposed to next is quite similar to the previous one, so your immune system kills it with minimal or no symptoms. Every now and then, a significantly different variant arises and you get a symptomatic case.
The problem with ‘free immunity’ via vax is your immune system leans only ONE thing – what the spike protein in that vaccine looks like. Once that changes, your immune system goes blind to it. In contrast, natural infection gives your immune system lots of targets to build defences against, so you still retain a lot of protection even if the spike changes.

MatrixTransform
April 11, 2022 3:23 pm

That seems to suggest that doctors, in general, have an interest in covering up covid deaths.
I’m not convinced.

they have an interest in covering up covid cases
one doctor looked me straight in the eye and said, “if this clinic had a case, we’d be shut down”

have you forgotten the clinic they shut down in sunshine because the guy wouldn’t comply with Health/Justice edicts?

rosie, The State went to war on all of us. Doctors included.

there is no possible to sugar-coat it

Indolent
Indolent
April 11, 2022 3:26 pm

Having laws on the books ( masks,Covid vaccines) that aren’t either policed or followed is a very dangerous precedent. Once people get used to doing it for one law it is much easier for the practice to become widespread.

What laws? What books? Don’t you know we’re living under diktat? Whatever idiocy they dream up. Until people get so fed up that there is serious pushback, something perhaps we are starting to see now. Or is it just a mirage and they’re taking the foot off the accelerator because of the election? It’s hard to tell.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
April 11, 2022 3:27 pm

The economy is in weird territory.

We normally have supply problems from high growth, disasters or wars but now it’s a disease.

Businesses just can’t access ordered materials or machinery in a timely manner and the prices are rising by unprecedented percentages.

This has to cause a big drag on productivity into the future.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
April 11, 2022 3:28 pm

rosiesays:
April 11, 2022 at 3:05 pm
Tim,
That seems to suggest that doctors, in general, have an interest in covering up covid deaths.
I’m not convinced.

No, it suggests that the government might have an interest in persuading doctors not to report vaxx deaths.
They’re not even trying to hide the censorship. This is what AHPRA have said to every health professional in Australia.
‘There is no place for anti-vaccination messages in professional health practice, and any promotion of anti-vaccination claims including on social media, and advertising may be subject to regulatory action.’ [Link below]
So we know for certain that a government agency is threatening health professionals with “regulatory action” for critiquing the vaxxes.
Why is it so hard to accept that the “advice” being offered in relation to death certificates may be, shall we say, less than encouraging about recording what the doctor really thinks?
I don’t know that for certain of course, but if there is any other explanation for what QLD Health is telling doctors in the extract I’ve posted at 2.55pm no-one has been able to articulate what it might be.

https://www.ahpra.gov.au/News/2021-03-09-vaccination-statement.aspx

Indolent
Indolent
April 11, 2022 3:31 pm

callisays:

April 11, 2022 at 10:43 am

And another thing about arguments…

Calling people who have different, well argued opinions “insane” is classic gaslighting.

You’re nuts.

Now that’s what I call a well argued opinion.

JC
JC
April 11, 2022 3:34 pm

Gez

Supply chains are being re-routed. It will take 5 years or so to get things back to something approaching normal. We didn’t realize this was a weakness until Covid struck.

Zipster
Zipster
April 11, 2022 3:36 pm

No, it suggests that the government might have an interest in persuading doctors not to report vaxx deaths.

There where 600+ deaths in 1st few months of the roll out and since then not a lot has been added. very strange.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
April 11, 2022 3:37 pm

To add to my comment above, we currently have a hundred grand worth of smallish farm machinery on order for many months and still waiting.
Wait times are approaching two years on major machinery items.

bespoke
bespoke
April 11, 2022 3:37 pm

600+ deaths

In Australia or globaly?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 11, 2022 3:38 pm

So Musk has 9.2% of Twatter.
I assume this is voting stock.
He doesn’t need to be “invited” to join anything.
He just votes himself on.
Might have to wait for a vacancy, but.
Anyway, all hypothetical.
I don’t think sitting at the table once a month through endless “How Good Are We?” Powerpoints is his thing.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 11, 2022 3:39 pm

This is obviously not an unloseable election. No that was 2019. Which makes Peanut Head’s effort even more impressive. He should be an object of ridicule like Hewson but the Liar Right keep him on ice like Groogs and Mother.

JC
JC
April 11, 2022 3:39 pm

Tim

What you explained wouldn’t be hugely onerous on a doctor in reporting a death. If the doc can’t sign a death certificate because a person died suddenly then s/he should not be signing anything without further investigation. Furthermore doctors, at least regular doctors, wouldn’t know how a covid death looks without further investigation. I, frankly, don’t see the problem.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 11, 2022 3:39 pm

Gez.
Buy an electric Merc.
I hear they are very good.

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
April 11, 2022 3:40 pm

Just got a hand delivered flyer from

https://www.reignitedemocracyaustralia.com.au/myvc/

Excellent advice “ Put the majors and greens last”, and including the use of a blue pen on the ballot paper.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
April 11, 2022 3:41 pm

JC says:
April 11, 2022 at 3:34 pm
Gez

Supply chains are being re-routed.

The Chinese government are certainly re-routing shipping away from Australia. One of our orders has sat in Singapore for three months looking for a ride South.

Zipster
Zipster
April 11, 2022 3:43 pm

rosie, The State went to war on all of us. Doctors included.

industrial scale corruption

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 11, 2022 3:43 pm

The war is increasing a lot of regional angst.

China ‘secretly’ Delivers Lethal Weapons To Russia’s Ally Serbia Amid Ongoing War (11 Apr)

In a major development amid the ongoing war, China has “secretly” delivered a set of sophisticated Chinese anti-aircraft systems to Serbia this weekend. According to multiple media reports, at least six Chinese Air Force Y-20 transport planes landed at Belgrade’s civilian airport on Saturday. As per the military experts, these transport planes reportedly carry HQ-22 surface-to-air missile systems which will be inducted into the Serbian military. Notably, Serbia is an ally of Russia and the delivery of the lethal weapons at this crucial period raised eyebrows over the intention of the Serbian military.

Serbia is strongly supportive of Russia, as you might expect from history, and maybe feeling a bit antsy about their neighbours who mostly support Ukraine.

Ukraine War Sparks Suspicion over Russia’s Designs on Kazakhstan (7 Apr)

He [Nazarbayev ] also noted, “In Kazakhstan 35 percent of the population is Russian and 40 percent is Kazakh.” Nazarbayev did not mention that most of that Russian population lived in northern areas of the country and at that time represented the majority there.

On December 10, 2020, Vyacheslav Nikonov, Russian Duma deputy and head of its Education and Science Committee, said on a Russian television program that when the Soviet Union formed in 1917, “Kazakhstan simply did not exist as a country, its northern territories were basically uninhabited.” The following day, an activist from Russia’s Patriot movement hung a banner that read “Northern Kazakhstan is Russian Land” on the gate of the Kazakh embassy in Moscow.

On December 13, 2020, another Duma deputy, Yevgeny Fedorov, told the BELARUSINFO program that the Belavezha Accords that dissolved the Soviet Union were illegal and Kazakhstan was effectively “leasing” Russian land.

The Kazakhs have been supportive of Russia so far, but perhaps the Duma kiddies should keep a low profile for a while.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 11, 2022 3:45 pm

duk.
The “ever-changing virus” argument is not really the point.
We have tried the “zero risk” option and look where that got us.
I my example, the Dad (having just recovered) should be at very low risk of infection so should just go back to his normal routine, irrespective of whether other family members have the bug or not.

Indolent
Indolent
April 11, 2022 3:45 pm

You and all your nuffy friends live on the assumption that everything is being done out of malign and wicked intent, jabs going in arms regardless of the cost.

Whatever the intent, this is the actual situation. How else could they still be pushing and even mandating “vaccines” that simply, and demonstrably, don’t work?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 11, 2022 3:46 pm

The claim, earlier this afternoon:

Professor Catherine Bennett, chair in epidemiology at Deakin University, told AAP FactCheck the public could be confident in the figures because of the stringent reporting and investigation processes used in cases of reported deaths.

A response to said claim:

FMD.
Honestly.

Yep. I’m not buying that either. Not by a long shot.

But because I don’t buy that, it doesn’t automatically mean I have to invest in miniature self-replicating robots in vaccines, or mysterious chemicals that turn the blood of corpses into raspberry yoghurt.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 11, 2022 3:48 pm

rickwsays:

April 11, 2022 at 3:23 pm

STOP TAKING TESTS FFS!

Mongistan…. Must follow rules….. Must take test

Come on, man!
You don’t reckon people are either binning positive RATs and not reporting them because they need to go to work or reporting false positive RATs to get a weeks sick leave?

Struth
April 11, 2022 3:52 pm

Many of you were smarter than you have been for two years.
The reason you can’t put two and two together is your resolute pig headedness to not believe a coup took place in march 2020.
It might be scary petals, but that is what happened, and if you’d only stop shitting yourselves and admit the obvious you’d be able to work out what’s going on.
You’ve already jabbed yourself out of the ignorance caused by denial.
Not fear of a seasonal cold.
But because you would rather believe it was about covid than what it really is about.

Which I’ve been saying for two years now.

Supply chains are being re-routed. It will take 5 years or so to get things back to something approaching normal. We didn’t realize this was a weakness until Covid struck.

Nothing to do with covid you fucking moron.
It’s to do with a globalist takeover by force.
The sniffles don’t do that.

The economy is in weird territory.

We normally have supply problems from high growth, disasters or wars but now it’s a disease.

Businesses just can’t access ordered materials or machinery in a timely manner and the prices are rising by unprecedented percentages.

This has to cause a big drag on productivity into the future.

As people have been telling us would happen for years now.
The people that are doing this.
They aren’t making educated guesses.
They are the ones doing it.

That seems to suggest that doctors, in general, have an interest in covering up covid deaths.
I’m not convinced.

That’s notafan,………of course not.

Whether or not intentional I don’t know

Millions do know.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 11, 2022 3:57 pm

Well, my hot cross bun delivery was late today, so …

bespoke
bespoke
April 11, 2022 3:59 pm
calli
calli
April 11, 2022 4:06 pm

Now that’s what I call a well argued opinion.

😀

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
April 11, 2022 4:06 pm

Got a theory on lefty ladies.
Wanted a manly man but ended up with a neutered academic or a manicured public servant and the rage at their fate is directed at those they most need.

Vicki
Vicki
April 11, 2022 4:11 pm

Wait times are approaching two years on major machinery items.

It’s a major problem. We had a New Holland tractor on order for a good part of the year. Finally arrived, but after relatively small usage, developed major part failure. Since this particular tractor is a new model ( & part was not yet in stock !) we are now waiting for indefinite period for new part to arrive from OS. Fortunately, dealer’s mechanic was attended on site at farm & was able to weld the broken part to make the vehicle usable. We are relieved, but not not happy about the overall situation.

Kind of wish we still had the old tractor – it didn’t have all the new gadgets – but at least it was reliable. It was traded in, and some lucky person snapped it up straight away.

Zipster
Zipster
April 11, 2022 4:14 pm

Another video from the Azov commander “Kalina” in #Mariupol in which he says they’ve been betrayed

Doesn’t he know he is supposed to be fighting to the death

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 11, 2022 4:20 pm

You don’t reckon people are either binning positive RATs and not reporting them because they need to go to work or reporting false positive RATs to get a weeks sick leave?

Indeedy.

Son and heir, early last week: ‘I think I have covid’.
‘You don’t have covid.’

‘But I have a sore throat.’
‘It’s the end of the wet season. The weather’s changing. It’s not covid.’

‘How can you be sure? I might have covid.’
‘I am sure you are not getting a week off school that just happens to run into school holidays.’

‘What if I get a positive test?’
‘You don’t get tested, you don’t get covid. You’re going to school. It’s Year 12.’

‘Okay then.’

It’s not splitting the atom.

Vicki
Vicki
April 11, 2022 4:22 pm

The problem with ‘free immunity’ via vax is your immune system leans only ONE thing – what the spike protein in that vaccine looks like. Once that changes, your immune system goes blind to it. In contrast, natural infection gives your immune system lots of targets to build defences against, so you still retain a lot of protection even if the spike changes.

Thanks for that explanation, duk. We remain unvaccinated, but have regular community contact – both regional centres & in Sydney, and would think we have been exposed to past variants on a regular basis. We continue to maintain a healthy diet with lots of relevant vitamin supplements, and have relevant protocol handy in case of infection. Geert VanDen Bossche still reckons we have a better chance of not being adversely affected by all future variants, even in our age group, if we remain unvaccinated. Bloody hope he is right.

Bluey
Bluey
April 11, 2022 4:22 pm

Vickisays:
April 11, 2022 at 4:11 pm
Wait times are approaching two years on major machinery items.

It’s a major problem. We had a New Holland tractor on order for a good part of the year. Finally arrived, but after relatively small usage, developed major part failure. Since this particular tractor is a new model ( & part was not yet in stock !) we are now waiting for indefinite period for new part to arrive from OS. Fortunately, dealer’s mechanic was attended on site at farm & was able to weld the broken part to make the vehicle usable. We are relieved, but not not happy about the overall situation.

Kind of wish we still had the old tractor – it didn’t have all the new gadgets – but at least it was reliable. It was traded in, and some lucky person snapped it up straight away.

I was reading a few months ago eastern European farm machinery was growing in popularity precisely because it was easy to fix. American made stuff would be dead in the water until you spend hundreds to get a rep to come and look at it, and you could then be waiting for weeks to get the parts. Not very useful if you’re trying to get a harvest in for something else time limited.
Then again, I’m not up on what’s going on any more. Even when I was exposed to farming, much of the equipment was old.

John H.
John H.
April 11, 2022 4:23 pm
Struth
April 11, 2022 4:27 pm

Got a theory on lefty ladies.
Wanted a manly man but ended up with a neutered academic or a manicured public servant and the rage at their fate is directed at those they most need.

Deep……I’m with you, don’t stop there.

sfw
sfw
April 11, 2022 4:28 pm

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Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
April 11, 2022 4:29 pm

Azov brigade commander betrayed by the Ukrainian leadership.
Handy that.
I reckon he’s an out of work barista from Donbas who loves Vlad big time.
Prove me wrong.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
April 11, 2022 4:29 pm

JCsays:
April 11, 2022 at 3:39 pm
Tim

What you explained wouldn’t be hugely onerous on a doctor in reporting a death. If the doc can’t sign a death certificate because a person died suddenly then s/he should not be signing anything without further investigation.

That’s the whole point JC. A doctor who does all the necessary investigation and concludes “yes, the vaxx directly killed the patient” isn’t allowed to just issue a death certificate, whereas if the doctor concluded that the vaxx wasn’t to blame, they’re told to go ahead and sign off on that. It’s the double standard that sticks out, especially in the light of AHPRA’s threats against vaxx sceptics.

Furthermore doctors, at least regular doctors, wouldn’t know how a covid death looks without further investigation. I, frankly, don’t see the problem.

I presume you meant vaxx death.
But why do you assume that the certifying doctor hasn’t investigated? Why is a vaxx death different from anything like say an allergic reaction death or a snake bite death? There’s literature on what adverse reactions the vaxxes are known to cause, so it’s not as if a doctor can’t do the normal analysis of known signs same as for expected signs of any other cause of death.

Any time any doctor signs any death certificate they’re making a professional judgment on cause of death after having done whatever investigation they believe is necessary to confirm their opinion. And they’re always allowed to say they don’t know and suggest further tests if they’re not sure. But if they’re sure they issue the certificate.
Unless the government tells them that they’re not allowed to place the blame on the approved vaxxes.

Why is a professional opinion that the vaxx wasn’t a factor absolutely AOK, just sign away, all good, no further questions, while an opinion that the vaxx was a factor something which needs to be scrutinised by government even if the investigating doctor is certain?

Struth
April 11, 2022 4:32 pm

Even when I was exposed to farming, much of the equipment was old.

I remember the days of pto headers and open tractors pulling them.

When men were men and sheep were nervous.

Arky
April 11, 2022 4:34 pm

Supply chains are being re-routed. It will take 5 years or so to get things back to something approaching normal. We didn’t realize this was a weakness until Covid struck.

..
No, shit for brains.
YOU didn’t think it was a weakness.
A handful of people on here have been saying for ten years that an over reliance on a CCP run China was a problem.

Makka
Makka
April 11, 2022 4:40 pm

We are relieved, but not not happy about the overall situation.

As you know, it’s quite a competitive market but with such limited stock, the sellers have the upper hand. Except for social media. So if the tractor is financed and still has an outstanding, a request for quietly renegotiated tractor selling price – along with blunt hints dropped about the model’s quality that may get on social media – may find favorable ears. The dealer will have unfilled orders at the factory and bad mouthing his incoming stock could be considered a lot more costly than being sympathetic.

rosie
rosie
April 11, 2022 4:42 pm

Didn’t most adverse vaccine reactions end up in hospital with recognised symptoms?
What’s a likely scenario for unexplained vaccine death?

Struth
April 11, 2022 4:45 pm
Zipster
Zipster
April 11, 2022 4:45 pm

Professor Catherine Bennett, chair in epidemiology at Deakin University, told AAP FactCheck the public could be confident in the figures because of the stringent reporting and investigation processes used in cases of reported deaths.

Pfizer strongly supports this statement

Zipster
Zipster
April 11, 2022 4:48 pm

Didn’t most adverse vaccine reactions end up in hospital with recognised symptoms?

do you have even the slightest bit of evidence to support this? what are the specific “recognised symptoms” other than myocarditis and pericarditis?

I have not even been able to get a diagnosis for long covid after a year and 2 specialists.

Struth
April 11, 2022 4:48 pm
Dot
Dot
April 11, 2022 4:50 pm

That seems to suggest that doctors, in general, have an interest in covering up covid deaths.
I’m not convinced

What would convince you?

Eyrie
Eyrie
April 11, 2022 4:52 pm

Helen,
I couldn’t find any P-51 rides in Oz at present time but I can ask my warbird folks on Wednesday when I’ll see them. There is this:
https://warbird.co.nz/

I doubt the three remaining (after one crashed) Piper Enforcer prototypes are still flying. It was put up as a cheaper alternative to the A-10. here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piper_PA-48_Enforcer

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
April 11, 2022 4:53 pm

Zipster says:
April 11, 2022 at 4:45 pm
Thousands march in Imran Khan’s support, stage protest across Pakistan | World News | WION

Reported on by a particularly attractive Indian lass and not a sign of a woman at any of the pro Imran protests.
It’s Scott Morrison at work no doubt.

Zipster
Zipster
April 11, 2022 4:54 pm

A handful of people on here have been saying for ten years that an over reliance on a CCP run China was a problem.

yep. we even had an argument with sinc about it

Makka
Makka
April 11, 2022 4:56 pm

SBU (Ukraine Secret Service) thug proudly wearing his SS Galizian insignia.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FP99FmoXMAE7MHK?format=jpg&name=large

But, but, there are no nazis in Ukraine!

Eyrie
Eyrie
April 11, 2022 4:57 pm

A handful of people on here have been saying for ten years that an over reliance on a CCP run China was a problem.

Let alone the discussions on oil and refining capacity self sufficiency.

bespoke
bespoke
April 11, 2022 4:59 pm

Teachers Unions Protect Themselves, Not Children

It’s the unions job is to protect the teachers not the kids. . The problam is the claim thay protect Children.

Bazinga
Bazinga
April 11, 2022 5:03 pm

With all the sports stars being vax injured; I’d like to propose 2 categories for future consideration:
1. Unvaxed men
2. Everyone else (the alternates)

That seems fair and according to ability. /s in case you needed it

Frank
Frank
April 11, 2022 5:03 pm

Chris Bailey dead.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity
Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity
April 11, 2022 5:07 pm

Musk trolling on Twitter; my favourite is the tweet where he mentioned that “blue checks” may work better if they were subscription. Provided the monthly payments continue the blue tick cannot be removed.
If the payments stop, the blue tick disappears.

Platinum level trolling by the Muskinator.

Zipster
Zipster
April 11, 2022 5:10 pm
Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity
Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity
April 11, 2022 5:11 pm

Chris Bailey dead.

Don’t leave us guessing.
Who, pray tell, is Chris Bailey?
(is he/she a Christine or a Christopher)

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
April 11, 2022 5:14 pm

Chris Bailey dead.

Finally “Stranded.”

calli
calli
April 11, 2022 5:21 pm

How do you get two “upticks” for a dead link?

Are morons just upticking because they “like” the commenter?

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
April 11, 2022 5:21 pm

Chris Bailey dead.

Don’t leave us guessing.
Who, pray tell, is Chris Bailey?

“Journalism largely consists in saying “Lord Jones is dead” to people who never knew Lord Jones was alive.” ? G.K. Chesterton

Frank
Frank
April 11, 2022 5:22 pm

Who, pray tell, is Chris Bailey?

Singer from the Saints, an early punk band of some note from Brisbane in the 70s.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
April 11, 2022 5:23 pm

Chris Bailey was lead singer and writer for Aus punk rock group The Saints.
Just like fire wood…

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 11, 2022 5:25 pm

Are morons just upticking because they “like” the commenter?

Dickless freaks.

JC
JC
April 11, 2022 5:27 pm

Arky says:
April 11, 2022 at 4:34 pm

Supply chains are being re-routed. It will take 5 years or so to get things back to something approaching normal. We didn’t realize this was a weakness until Covid struck.

..
No, shit for brains.
YOU didn’t think it was a weakness.
A handful of people on here have been saying for ten years that an over reliance on a CCP run China was a problem.

Oh looksee the slob wants credit for something he never said.
The supply chain is now considered weak because of the impact of Covid – not because your inlaws live in Taiwan, you dickhead.
Every large firm in the world didn’t predict covid but but you did. Get the fuck out out of here.

Go look over all the new beautiful non-Chinese tools you bought with the insurance bonanza.

Frank
Frank
April 11, 2022 5:27 pm

Are morons just upticking because they “like” the commenter?

I commented on the utility of the thumbs up feature last night and was mocked mercilessly by the blog lord. Sniffle, still hurts to sit down.

bespoke
bespoke
April 11, 2022 5:27 pm

what dead link?

bespoke
bespoke
April 11, 2022 5:28 pm

Ok found it.

Hehe!

John H.
John H.
April 11, 2022 5:30 pm

I don’t know why so many people are saying that the vaccines don’t offer any protection against omicron because there is plenty of data to the contrary. It doesn’t matter if a protein has been mutated because antibodies bind to a specific site on a protein. Antibody efficacy is lost when that specific site has changed due to mutation. Then there is the fascinating story of MHC 1 presentation which still leaves me wondering as to the actual mechanics of protein\protein fragment presentation and whether or not specific cells do that in specific ways or if it just a generic intra-cellular process. Life is full of these beautiful little mysteries.

How well do vaccines protect against Omicron? What the data shows

bespoke
bespoke
April 11, 2022 5:31 pm

still hurts to sit down.

I suspected Dover was like that.

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 11, 2022 5:31 pm

What did Bailey die of?
Covid “Vaccine” casualty?
Sure looks like it.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 11, 2022 5:32 pm

But, but, there are no nazis in Ukraine!

Invisible Nazis fighting each other! (That link is to Speccie Australia btw.)
It’s also Chechens fighting Chechens, Syrians fighting Syrians and Georgians fighting Georgians.
Quite a mess. I could find the news stories for each of these if you want. I’d have to say neither Azov nor Wagner are very invisible, although some of the neo-nazi militia in Donbas seems moreso (again both sides).

Anchor What
Anchor What
April 11, 2022 5:34 pm

“A man who was kidnapped and held at ransom just three months ago has been the victim of two drive-by shootings in 72 hours, allegedly at the hands of a well-known crime family. ”

Yeah but you know, bushfires and stuff.

Indolent
Indolent
April 11, 2022 5:35 pm

Nigel tries to understand his motive. I have no trouble at all – he is evil.

‘Just like Lenin’: Farage sounds alarm on Soros’ true impact worldwide | Rob Schmitt Tonight

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 11, 2022 5:38 pm

I don’t know why so many people are saying that the vaccines don’t offer any protection against omicron because there is plenty of data to the contrary.

Briefly, yes.

Fourth dose booster honeymoon all over in just 8 weeks (9 Apr)

Israeli data. Seems consistent with the earlier Israeli data from last year that I’ve linked several times (also a big numbers study) which showed major reduction in protection in three months, and none remaining after six months. The latter was for the original 2 doses though, not the boosters.

Anchor What
Anchor What
April 11, 2022 5:38 pm

Jeff Bezos support Elon Musk’s idea for converting Twitter HQ to homeless shelter
Honour amongst multi-billionaires?

JC
JC
April 11, 2022 5:38 pm

Frank says:
April 11, 2022 at 5:27 pm

Are morons just upticking because they “like” the commenter?

I commented on the utility of the thumbs up feature last night and was mocked mercilessly by the blog lord. Sniffle, still hurts to sit down.

Someone the other day was suggesting they’re being manipulated and suspected one person’s doing it. Dunno. If true, I’d lay money one who it is. 🙂

Zipster
Zipster
April 11, 2022 5:45 pm

I don’t know why so many people are saying that the vaccines don’t offer any protection against omicron because there is plenty of data to the contrary.

has anyone explained why the vaccine efficacy wanes so quickly? nothing to do with mutations. There is something else going on here.

Arky
April 11, 2022 5:45 pm

I don’t know anything about engineering more upticks.
But I do know that no one except you is responsible for the fact that you don’t get fucking any.

Top Ender
Top Ender
April 11, 2022 5:46 pm

The Spearman cometh!

POLICE have issued a summons to appear to a 20-year-old man who was shot in Palmerston in March.

On March 8, two NT Police officers were called to Gray for an unrelated incident, when they were allegedly “confronted” by the man armed with a spear.

A statement from NT Police said the man allegedly raised the spear at one of the officers despite repeated warnings.

At the time Assistant Commissioner Michael White, who led the investigation, said one officer deployed a taser around the same time their partner fired their gun six times in succession.

The 20-year-old was taken to Royal Darwin Hospital in a critical condition and has since recovered.

The summons was issued to the man for: going armed in public, assaulting police and conduct endangering life.

“The Office of the NT Independent Commissioner Against Corruption and the NT Ombudsman were advised for independent oversight,” the NT Police statement read.

“As the matter is now before the court there will be no further comment.”

The man will appear in court on May 3.

JC
JC
April 11, 2022 5:53 pm

And just one other thing, Thought Leader, so that people are not mislead by your egotistical bullshit. You’re idea of re-routing supply chains was to drop a tariff and quota at the Australian border because we make nafink. At one stage, you were suggesting we ought to be making cars here again and decrying how we lost an wonderful industry. An industry that was costing the taxpayer $50,000 per job.

You have no fucking idea.
Let’s be under no illusions, if Australia went back to hiding behind a tariff and quota wall the nation’s living standards would be sawed in half. Sawed in half! We’d be buying imports at 30 cents to the US dollar. What a grand idea.

We have an outsized mining sector paying the highest fucking wages in the world for people with relatively low ed and skill levels. Mining is 15% of our GDP. Let’s ditch this extremely efficient sector that pays for our imports and force import displacement on the economy. Of course it makes sense. You nincompoop. And ditch it we would because we have to make room for import displacement in some way.

John H.
John H.
April 11, 2022 5:53 pm

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
April 11, 2022 at 5:38 pm
I don’t know why so many people are saying that the vaccines don’t offer any protection against omicron because there is plenty of data to the contrary.

Briefly, yes.

Fourth dose booster ho

CONCLUSIONS
Rates of confirmed SARS-CoV-2 infection and severe Covid-19 were lower after a fourth dose of BNT162b2 vaccine than after only three doses. Protection against confirmed infection appeared short-lived, whereas protection against severe illness did not wane during the study period.

With omicron infection isn’t that much of a risk, it is severe illness that might arise which is the risk. This study argues no waning of protection against severe illness.

For this analysis, we included persons who, on January 1, 2022, were 60 years of age or older and had received three doses of BNT162b2 at least 4 months before the end of the study period (March 2).

Note that they chose a sample most likely to have waning protection with 25%>80 and 42%>70. They positively selected for a worst case scenario. Good strategy.

JC
JC
April 11, 2022 5:55 pm

Arky says:
April 11, 2022 at 5:45 pm

I don’t know anything about engineering more upticks.
But I do know that no one except you is responsible for the fact that you don’t get fucking any.

I really couldn’t give a shit about down or upticks, your Thought Leadership. But you seem to, right?

calli
calli
April 11, 2022 5:55 pm

Grate. I’m in Patterson, a marginal seat held by Labor.

Libs are putting up a candidate called Brooke Vitnell. Lawyer, dad a local solicitor. So far, so good (sort of).

Told today hubbie, who’s name she does not appear to share, is an employee in ScoMo’s office. So much for pre-selection on merit.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 11, 2022 5:56 pm

NT justice system looks like it is heading down the Victoriastani road.

Long way back when it does.

John H.
John H.
April 11, 2022 5:57 pm

Zipstersays:
April 11, 2022 at 5:45 pm
I don’t know why so many people are saying that the vaccines don’t offer any protection against omicron because there is plenty of data to the contrary.

has anyone explained why the vaccine efficacy wanes so quickly? nothing to do with mutations. There is something else going on here.

That is a question that requires much more research. That probably exists but I haven’t gone looking for it. It could be T cell anergy or T cell elimination because the antigen is so much like a self protein the T cells undergo negative selection. Don’t know about B cells though. That’s where we need to be careful because antibody and T cell mediated immunity are very different processes.

So now I’ll go hunting. It’s out there, somewhere … .

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 11, 2022 5:57 pm

Looks like Labor is astroturfing already.

‘Doesn’t hold a hose’: Protesters heckle Prime Minister Scott Morrison over bushfires on the Federal Election campaign trail (11 Apr)

Who, might you ask, are these “protesters”?

Other protesters – some of whom were Labor Party members – sang ‘April Sun in Cuba’ by Dragon, mirroring Mr Morrison’s recent 60 Minutes appearance where he played the ukulele.

I couldn’t see what the black line at the bottom of their perfectly printed plackards said. Probably something along the lines of “Authorized by the Labor Party (etc etc)” in 2pt Arial. One must cover one’s arse. I wonder whether rest of the MSM will bother to mention this was a dishonest Labor stunt? Labor does so love being dishonest, it appears.

calli
calli
April 11, 2022 5:58 pm

The only reason I noticed the upticks was because I followed the link. Three times to make sure I hadn’t done something stupid.

It isn’t gaming. It’s mindless partisan b/s. To think poor Lizzie was so upset by it a couple of months ago. Moronic is being too kind.

John H.
John H.
April 11, 2022 5:58 pm

So now I’ll go hunting. It’s out there, somewhere … .

Already found 341 links to explore but time is pressing. Must eat, go gym, catch up laters.

miltonf
miltonf
April 11, 2022 6:00 pm

Fuck looks like a bunch of retired skool teachas. There who can do. Those who can’t teach.

miltonf
miltonf
April 11, 2022 6:01 pm

Teacha feature.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
April 11, 2022 6:02 pm

…whereas protection against severe illness did not wane during the study period.

Yes but the study period was only about 8 or 9 weeks. The proposition that Bruce referred to is that with two doses immunity against serious consequences waned after three months and vanished in six. This study didn’t test that for the fourth dose.

JC
JC
April 11, 2022 6:02 pm

It isn’t gaming. It’s mindless partisan b/s.

Naaa, according to Thought Leadership it means he’s the biggest intellect here.

calli
calli
April 11, 2022 6:03 pm

looks like a bunch of retired skool teachas.

Ahahaha! Yes indeedy!

The pedagoguery is strong in those ones.

Struth
April 11, 2022 6:06 pm

I don’t want any upticks.
I’ll feel like I’m in agreeance with people here.

I’ll try again…they won’t let that site upload.
This is GB news in Britain.
here.

Struth
April 11, 2022 6:08 pm
Arky
April 11, 2022 6:08 pm

You’re idea of re-routing supply chains was to drop a tariff and quota at the Australian border

..
We have discussed this for literally hours.
You can be under no misapprehension that that is NOT my position.
Unless you are deaf as well as stupid.

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
April 11, 2022 6:09 pm

Who, might you ask, are these “protesters”?

BoN, i think you will find this has been organised by the ACTU.

Sally McManus has been bragging about a stunt on social media for a few weeks

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 11, 2022 6:10 pm

“Rates of confirmed SARS-CoV-2 infection and severe Covid-19 were lower after a fourth dose of BNT162b2 vaccine than after only three doses. Protection against confirmed infection appeared short-lived, whereas protection against severe illness did not wane during the study period.”

If there were antibodies then infection would not take place. I’d have to go through the paper for the severe illness data, but the error bars are enormous, which suggests very few actual severe illnesses. Which is consistent with omicron being roughly as dangerous as the common cold, for which a vaccine is inane and silly. Especially one as prone to serious side effects as this is.

Indolent
Indolent
April 11, 2022 6:11 pm

BREAKING: Elon Musk declines to join Twitter board of directors

Might I suggest he doesn’t want to be outvoted all the time and forced to tow the majority line. Didn’t we read the other day that a proviso for joining the board was not increasing his holding for 2(?) years.

Why would he subject himself to board solidarity handcuffs?

rickw
rickw
April 11, 2022 6:13 pm

A handful of people on here have been saying for ten years that an over reliance on a CCP run China was a problem.

Let alone the discussions on oil and refining capacity self sufficiency.

No industry needs government support.

All industries need government to get the fuck out of the way.

miltonf
miltonf
April 11, 2022 6:14 pm

I don’t lie Scummo but those horrors like McMannus make you sympathetic towards him. McMannus- another uni unionist- hey why learn a trade when you can do a bludge course at the intellectual cesspit known as Macquarie uni?

calli
calli
April 11, 2022 6:14 pm

I don’t want any upticks.

Good man. I never thought for a second it was you, btw.

cohenite
April 11, 2022 6:15 pm

We have an outsized mining sector paying the highest fucking wages in the world for people with relatively low ed and skill levels. Mining is 15% of our GDP. Let’s ditch this extremely efficient sector that pays for our imports and force import displacement on the economy. Of course it makes sense.

Just one thing with your opposition to tariffs head prefect and your valid point about wages: in respect of everything which is essential, particularly energy, Australia should be self sufficient. By all means import Lindt chocolates, Ferraris and pole dancers without tariffs but everything must be made here. How you deal with the unions I’ll leave up to you.

miltonf
miltonf
April 11, 2022 6:18 pm

No industry needs government support.

All industries need government to get the fuck out of the way.

That’s my view too- manufacturing in Asia has cheap reliable electricity and isn’t harassed by various taxpayer funded ‘environmental agencies’.

Indolent
Indolent
April 11, 2022 6:18 pm

Tim,
That seems to suggest that doctors, in general, have an interest in covering up covid deaths.
I’m not convinced.

And you never will be, no matter how much proof is provided.

Harlequin Decline
April 11, 2022 6:20 pm

Talking with a few people it seems that Albo is not coming across that well. They tend to view him as trying to present himself as something he is not and failing to fake sincerity. This view seems to occur even amongst left leaning women.

Given most voters tend to vote on superficialities perhaps Scomo has a chance.

rickw
rickw
April 11, 2022 6:20 pm

Someone asked about P-51 flights?

You can get P-40 flights:

https://www.classicairwarbirdadventureflights.com.au/

miltonf
miltonf
April 11, 2022 6:22 pm

The anal ‘make over’ is so blatant. Especially the new glasses. I wonder how long it took them to settle on the colour of the rims?

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 11, 2022 6:23 pm

JC

And ditch it we would because we have to make room for import displacement in some way.

Make room for import replacement by reducing government administration and “investment” in things like green boondoggles.

JC
JC
April 11, 2022 6:23 pm

in respect of everything which is essential, particularly energy, Australia should be self sufficient.

No we shouldn’t. We should be a massive energy exporter. 🙂

rickw
rickw
April 11, 2022 6:23 pm

manufacturing in Asia has cheap reliable electricity and isn’t harassed by various taxpayer funded ‘environmental agencies’.

Australia predominantly has small size enterprises because as soon as you become a medium size enterprise, worksafe, EPA, ato and unions start to take an unhealthy interest. That’s on top of worlds highest electricity and rental prices.

JC
JC
April 11, 2022 6:24 pm

Make room for import replacement by reducing government administration and “investment” in things like green boondoggles.

Sure, B John. No problem with that.

miltonf
miltonf
April 11, 2022 6:26 pm

It seriously is amazing, it a good way, that the Carmichael mine is actually going ahead seeing there was big, big foreign meddling to try and stop it.

Top Ender
Top Ender
April 11, 2022 6:27 pm

You can get P-40 flights

Ah, the brave USAAF defenders of northern Australia in 1942.

Odd that Americans should be flying the air defence of our country by themselves for much of that year. Defence planning done with the same political pressures of today?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 11, 2022 6:28 pm

Uptick wars.
It is worth considering that one of the contributors to the shitty predicament we are in is because of “upticks” in a broader sense, particularly in Victoria.
Dan’s media unit minions busily gaslighting his opposition online, relentlessly hash-tagging “I Stand Wiv Dan” in every nook and cranny of the interwebs and canonising Perfesser Sutton, complete with branded merchandise.

rickw
rickw
April 11, 2022 6:29 pm

Had a call from my QF contact today complaining about how no one told him about his aircraft refuelling contact resigning.

Sir, I really understand your concern, but they fired me 3 months ago over vax, suggest you call my old boss….

I can imagine the follow up call!

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 11, 2022 6:29 pm

Harlequin Decline at 6:20 – interesting. There is an article on The Paywallian online from some Liar hack along the same lines “let Albo be Albo”. Doesn’t help that you’ve got a hard Left Trot trying not to scare the horses.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 11, 2022 6:30 pm

JCsays:
April 11, 2022 at 6:23 pm
in respect of everything which is essential, particularly energy, Australia should be self sufficient.

No we shouldn’t. We should be a massive energy exporter. ?

If we are an energy exporter, we are energy self-sufficient?

PS, re government “investment”, how much taxpayer money has gone down the gurgler on hot rocks, tidal energy, building or subsidising solar and wind generators, and interconnectors that would not be needed but for the obsession with ruinables? Can you think of some productive real investments that might have provided better value for money?

Struth
April 11, 2022 6:32 pm

The car industry would have been viable without subsidy if the government had got out of the road with the taxation of all the imput costs of the car manufacturers, their suppliers and their suppliers and their suppliers…….and fuel and power and everyfucking thing that moves and doesn’t…….and then strangled the lot of it with regulation and UN sabotage via eco terrorism or green tape.
And then basic wallies like a few here blame wages of the car factory workers……when there were actually fuck of them left as it was mostly robotic.

The government took more than it gave back in subsidy, and that’s why we don’t have a car industry.

JC
JC
April 11, 2022 6:33 pm

Arky says:
April 11, 2022 at 6:08 pm

You’re idea of re-routing supply chains was to drop a tariff and quota at the Australian border

..
We have discussed this for literally hours.
You can be under no misapprehension that that is NOT my position.
Unless you are deaf as well as stupid.

Oh okay. Then begin now explaining your position. Unfortunately every time you’ve been asked to explain your ideal economic model you’ve run a mile after. Also, just to be 100% clear. You’ve never decried in the past how terrible it was to lose the car industry and Abbott was a “wanker” for closing it down. I have that wrong, yeah?

Explain, in your model, just how you would introduce manufacturing back in Australian without tariff walls and quotas.
This time you either swim or you fucking drown.

Go!

miltonf
miltonf
April 11, 2022 6:33 pm

PS, re government “investment”, how much taxpayer money has gone down the gurgler on hot rocks, tidal energy, building or subsidising solar and wind generators, and interconnectors that would not be needed but for the obsession with ruinables? Can you think of some productive real investments that might have provided better value for money?

Yes at least our local manufacturers actually gave us automobiles and clothes.

miltonf
miltonf
April 11, 2022 6:35 pm

The subsidies to these solar and wind abominations must be mind blowing- so much for economic rationalism.

miltonf
miltonf
April 11, 2022 6:35 pm

What’s Hilmer’s stance on renewbulls?

Arky
April 11, 2022 6:35 pm

Can you think of some productive real investments that might have provided better value for money?

..
Sure.
The government could spend like seven billion on giving everyone endless fucking Covid booster shots.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 11, 2022 6:36 pm

This one’s for Northern Territory type Cats.

Just finished reading “King Brown Country” by Russell Skelton, about life in the Northern Territory community of Papunya. “It’s the (petrol) sniffing capital of Australia, it’s a Bermuda Triangle for taxpayer funds. Nobody in the NT Government gives a rats.”

The expression “Third World shithole” was coined with Papunya in mind……

rosie
rosie
April 11, 2022 6:37 pm

I was by implication referring to the blood clots associated with astrazeneca zippy.
Though I also thought people with myocarditis were presenting to cardiologists. I just can’t see where gps would be routinely signing off on vaccine deaths.
(As for Mark Hobart getting shut down I think that was a little more complicated.)
Btw did you get your dose of covid confirmed via testing? I seem to recall you got an antibody test that was negative.

Franx
Franx
April 11, 2022 6:37 pm

JC, the idea of ‘living standards’ needs explication before it can be too readily argued that only certain sets of set of economic practices can maintain ‘standards’.

Harlequin Decline
April 11, 2022 6:38 pm

Yep, H B Bear I wonder how long it’s going to take for the cracks to appear. You’d think it would only be a matter of time and 6 weeks is a long time.

bespoke
bespoke
April 11, 2022 6:39 pm

Squirreling every other explanation but the one that people may have like Johanna’s post What gives?

miltonf
miltonf
April 11, 2022 6:41 pm

Regarding the strength or otherwise of the Russian economy. It’s crossed my mind too if GDP is really a legitimate measure. So much economics is academic bullshit where their models are more important to them than what actually happens in the real world.

Frank
Frank
April 11, 2022 6:41 pm

Talking with a few people it seems that Albo is not coming across that well.

His problem is that people, in particular women, tend to find him repellant. The voice, the ratlike features and the slippery demeanour is not something he can cover up with a makeover and some diet pills. It seems a few out there cannot face the thought of having to listen to him for four years, trivial perhaps but not to be overlooked.

miltonf
miltonf
April 11, 2022 6:42 pm

The fuckwit pubes in the treasury in canbra exemplify this.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 11, 2022 6:46 pm

From “The Age.”

Ex-SAS soldier felt ‘threatened’ into giving evidence, court hears
Michaela Whitbourn
By Michaela Whitbourn
April 11, 2022 — 2.42pm

A former elite soldier has told the Federal Court he felt threatened into co-operating with three newspapers being sued for defamation by war veteran Ben Roberts-Smith because the media outlets’ lawyers had told him they believed he was involved himself in an unlawful killing in Afghanistan.

Person 56, a former Special Air Service soldier, told Roberts-Smith’s defamation case on Monday that he only agreed to speak to the newspapers’ lawyers last year because he believed they had a “deal” he would not be asked about some of his own alleged actions in Afghanistan if he gave evidence about his former comrade.

He agreed with Arthur Moses, SC, one of the barristers acting for Roberts-Smith, that he gave a statement in the proceedings to get the newspapers “off … [his] back”, and he “felt threatened” that he would be questioned in court about his own conduct if he did not co-operate.

Roberts-Smith is suing The Age, The Sydney Morning Herald and The Canberra Times for defamation over a series of reports in 2018 that he says portray him as a war criminal.

The newspapers are seeking to rely on a defence of truth and have alleged Roberts-Smith committed or was involved in six murders of Afghan prisoners under the control of Australian troops. Under the rules of engagement, killing an unarmed prisoner is unlawful.

Roberts-Smith denies all wrongdoing and maintains any killings were carried out lawfully in the heat of battle.

The court heard Person 56, whose identity cannot be revealed for national security reasons, was a trooper in a patrol led by Roberts-Smith in Afghanistan in 2012.

Person 56 objected to answering a question on Monday from the newspapers’ barrister, Nicholas Owens, SC, about whether he was involved in a mission in the village of Fasil in Afghanistan in November 2012. His barrister, Sean Richter, said his client’s evidence may incriminate him in an unlawful killing.

Justice Anthony Besanko did not compel him to give the evidence. Person 56 told the court that he had initially believed the newspapers would avoid asking about Fasil altogether if he gave evidence about a separate mission in Darwan in September 2012.

He was asked on Monday about the meaning of the term “throwdown”, which he described as an item or items, such as a weapon, “that can be used to make a situation look a certain way”.

Asked whether throwdown objects were carried by his patrol in 2012, Person 56 said he was “unwilling to answer that question given it may self-incriminate me”.

He told the court that another soldier in his patrol, whom he identified as either Person 4 or Person 11, had said after the Darwan mission with Roberts-Smith that “an individual had been kicked off a cliff and subsequently shot”.

The court has heard evidence that Roberts-Smith kicked an Afghan prisoner off a cliff in Darwan before the man was shot dead. Roberts-Smith has denied the allegation and said the man was spotted in a field and was showing hostile intent before Person 11 started firing shots, and he fired shots behind his comrade.

But Person 4 told the court earlier this year that he witnessed Roberts-Smith kick the handcuffed Afghan man off a cliff. He said he saw that a radio used by Taliban fighters known as an ICOM was positioned next to the man’s body after he was shot dead, and that to his knowledge the man had not had an ICOM.

The ICOM was “slightly wet” with a “fogged-up” screen, Person 4 said, and it “dawned on” him that he believed the radio came from another Afghan man Roberts-Smith had pursued across the Helmand River before the alleged incident.

The court heard in February that Person 56 was present with Roberts-Smith in Fasil in November 2012, and the newspapers had received information suggesting Person 56 was involved in one of two alleged unlawful killings at that time. He was not asked further questions on Monday about his alleged actions in Fasil.

Owens told the court in February he was not proposing to avoid asking Person 56 about alleged events in Fasil, but would not submit to the court that the former soldier should be compelled to answer the question over any objection by him.

“We accept that he has a reasonable basis for anticipating that that evidence would incriminate him,” Owens said at the time.

Owens said “we were willing to take what we could get” from Person 56 as a witness.

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 11, 2022 6:46 pm

Albanese beat PeanutHead 2:1 among the Party members in the Leadership vote after Rudd resigned, so he’s very popular with the Rank and File, compared to Shorten.
He looks like a bloke with a short fuse though, perhaps he shouldn’t be pushing the bushfires button so hard.

Runnybum
Runnybum
April 11, 2022 6:48 pm

Head Prefect we are already an energy exporting country, have you heard of coal?
We should use it more here to power our economy you dumb fk.

Anchor What
Anchor What
April 11, 2022 6:49 pm

There’s no point arguing the merits of each case of leftist idiocy. Trans, Gay Marriage, Equity, Open Borders, you name it.
Each one is aimed at the destruction of the successful civil society we have enjoyed before and after WW2.

JC
JC
April 11, 2022 6:49 pm

If we are an energy exporter, we are energy self-sufficient?

This would apply for every other country in the world except Australia. We’re a major gas exporter and almost ran out of gas for domestic consumption. Amazing but true.

To answer your question, not necessarily. You could have a ton of coal but no oil or gas.

John H.
John H.
April 11, 2022 6:50 pm

Timothy Neilsonsays:
April 11, 2022 at 6:02 pm
…whereas protection against severe illness did not wane during the study period.

Yes but the study period was only about 8 or 9 weeks. The proposition that Bruce referred to is that with two doses immunity against serious consequences waned after three months and vanished in six. This study didn’t test that for the fourth dose.

I quoted from the study which was the reference in the link Bruce provided. Why waste time with a website when the primary literature is available?

BTW, I have now one hypothesis on why the vaccines wane.

bespoke
bespoke
April 11, 2022 6:51 pm

Don’t expect to export cars with tariff walls.

Eyrie
Eyrie
April 11, 2022 6:51 pm

rickw, the Wangaratta warbird rides are currently unable to give rides according to their website.

JC
JC
April 11, 2022 6:55 pm

Arky says:
April 11, 2022 at 6:35 pm

Can you think of some productive real investments that might have provided better value for money?

..
Sure.
The government could spend like seven billion on giving everyone endless fucking Covid booster shots.

And that money could go towards supporting car industry. It makes so much sense.

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 11, 2022 6:57 pm

Albanese’s personal life raises a few questions.
He’s going on 59, his partner is a young looking 40.
Anyone can tell you that hooking up with a 40 year old when you’re 60 is asking for trouble.
No 60 year old bloke can keep the cock up to a 40 y.o. woman, so before too long she’ll be looking for help[ers].

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 11, 2022 6:58 pm

Don’t expect to export cars with tariff walls.
Are you kidding?
They couldn’t give Commodores away overseas.

Anchor What
Anchor What
April 11, 2022 7:00 pm

it was feminism which weaponised postmodernism and launched the irrationalism that underpins the crisis engulfing our institutions.
Quadrant online

calli
calli
April 11, 2022 7:00 pm

Point taken, Dover. I’d far rather err on the side of innocence.

Even though I’m a wicked, suspicious old bat. The thin one, mind.

Harlequin Decline
April 11, 2022 7:00 pm

Just saw this, Austria’s Chancellor is heading to Moscow for talks.

Ostensibly about war crimes but I wouldn’t be surprised if they are acting as a proxy for Germany.

Zipster
Zipster
April 11, 2022 7:03 pm
cohenite
April 11, 2022 7:04 pm

No we shouldn’t. We should be a massive energy exporter.

Of course, but self sufficiency should come first. Currently we are a massive energy exporter but are not self sufficient.

In other news that rich grub and flog holmes a kunt calls Warren Mundine a grub and a flog because Mundine stated the obvious, which is holmes a kunt’s skanks are really a party and have strong under-currents of antisemitism.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 11, 2022 7:05 pm

Groogs has a point. ??? Albo isn’t Peanut Head.

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