1,925 thoughts on “Open Thread – Weekend 14 May 2022”

  1. Dot:

    The root causes of our absurd false economy is the property magic pudding. Government taxation is the strongest attractor for these anti civilizational policy set we live under.

    Exactly.
    The Government cancer just grows bigger every year and consumes more resources. It’s now at the stage of a terminal cancer where the host has been so depleted by its demands that the host is consuming itself while the cancer just keeps demanding more. It won’t stop until both are dead.


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  2. TimN don’t challenge Munty, he’s challenged enough. His choice of weapon. As many donuts you can throw at him, he’ll eat the lot.


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  3. Daytime Sky giving airhead Steggall a free kick to bag both Deves and Morro.
    I have to agree with Tom that the media is mostly green/Labor oriented.


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  4. Dover is free to do what he likes with his blog, of course.
    Yes, he’s free to allow the sort of dickheads who make it a waste of time to read through threads clogged with leftist rubbish.


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  5. m0ntysays:
    May 16, 2022 at 2:34 pm
    Name a time and place fatboy. I live in Melbourne.

    A threat of violence now. I think you’re the toxic one here, Tim.

    Who said anything about violence? Poor old m0nty the craven gutless fat sack of shit leaping to all sorts of wrong conclusions out of sheer craven gutless terror.


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  6. Don’t know if I have posted this before.

    Unitaid and Medincell are looking to develop Ivermectin in vaccine form. It seems that although patent has run out on Ivermectin in current form as animal drench and human tablet for parasites, it would resume currency for vaccine reincarnation.

    Money always triumphs. Is it the most disgusting aspect of the human species??

    https://philharper.substack.com/p/why-unitaid-keep-turning-up-for-ivermectin?utm_source=email


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  7. mumty

    LOL. So much for free speech.

    ROFLMAO> You had Steve from Brissy and Homer censoring your free speech on your own blog (to which you could readily return, and speak freely. But then you would have an audience of three (including yourself).


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  8. Unitaid and Medincell are looking to develop Ivermectin in vaccine form.

    I love Ivermectin: areff got me a course of it two weeks ago to get rid of Kung Flu — which it did in three days (in tablet form).

    The best thing about Ivermectin is that it’s totally yummy, which tells me it’s very good for me. The nearest taste I can compare it to is the vitamin supplement/hangover cure Berocca, a popular form of Vitamin B.


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  9. Franksays:
    May 16, 2022 at 2:30 pm
    Yeah it wasn’t the cops who killed those people, it was the actuarial tables.

    You are not that dumb Monty.

    Sorry to disagree Frank, but based on his comments, munty is that dumb.


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  10. m0ntysays:
    May 16, 2022 at 1:41 pm
    So the Cat’s pronouncements for the day are that Palestinians have apartheided themselves

    well, yes. They continue to do so.

    Tell us all about freedom of religion in Gaza, Monty.


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  11. Boambee Johnsays:

    May 16, 2022 at 3:01 pm

    mumty

    LOL. So much for free speech.

    ROFLMAO> You had Steve from Brissy and Homer censoring your free speech on your own blog (to which you could readily return, and speak freely. But then you would have an audience of three (including yourself).

    We get a bit of that here.


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  12. Thanks m0nty for your brilliant analysis.

    Every protest on the left is legitimate because you said so.

    Every protest on the right is illegitimate because you call them “cookers” a lot.

    But can you explain one thing for me?

    Why would people who *oppose* injecting themselves with experimental drugs be labelled “cookers” rather than people such as yourself who are already on your 75th booster and you couldn’t care less what you’ve been injecting?


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  13. m0ntysays:
    May 16, 2022 at 2:34 pm
    Name a time and place fatboy. I live in Melbourne.

    A threat of violence now. I think you’re the toxic one here, Tim.

    Let’s refer back:

    Punch a Nayzee.
    Far left anti-Semite Palis are okay.
    Even ones who were lockstep with moustache man.
    Violence is very bad.

    Failing in 4k.


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  14. so much for free speech

    I couldn’t care less about free speech in and of itself.

    I believe in reciprocity. The Golden Rule.

    No commie should be allowed any rights that they say they don’t believe in. Indeed, it’s completely bizarre to me that leftists are allowed to own property or are presumed innocent or have the freedom to speak on any issue.

    It’s extraordinary that so many people who believe in climate change own coastal property. The government should requisition it with zero (ie fair value (assuming climate change is real)) compensation.

    It’s even more extraordinary that the Liberal government doesn’t make every Labor and Greens politician (save perhaps Andrew Barr) take 1000 vaccines every single day in order to be allowed to continue to work.

    Hopefully the next time a country is formed the founders understand that anybody who calls for any cessation of rights should immediately lose those rights themselves.

    You see m0nty, this is how we know you’re a disgusting piece of shit. You call for the cessation of rights but would be horrified if your own beliefs were applied to you.


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  15. Fatboy
    Get in the freaking basement as you’re really beginning to annoy people here with your stupid shit. You’re not allowed above ground until the med authorities approve, which they believe will be sometime in the summer of 2033.. Get down there now! or I’ll refer you to Brett Sutton. Go on, shoo.


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  16. I have an athletic 19 year old, treasured grandson & a granddaughter who suffered short term upper gastrointestinal bleeding after her second Pfizer shot.

    Pfizer does everything except stop COVID.

    GP sending missus for a full body MRI, onset of issues coincided with second Pfizer shot.

    Buy MRI machine stocks! Seems to be the go to tool for post Pfizer issues.


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  17. m0ntysays:
    May 16, 2022 at 3:30 pm
    Who said anything about violence?

    Don’t come the raw prawn, Tim.

    More likely, don’t throw the cooked donut.

    Now that you seem to have become a Nazi supporter, are you cooling off on your previous enthusiasm for “Punch a Nazee”?


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  18. I saw a medical report the other day from a neurologist opining on an MRI for a woman who has suffered significant adverse effects after her first Pfizzzzzer shot — patches of white in multiple areas of the brain — I did not sound good at all.


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  19. I have discovered a new horror inflicted upon urban humanity.

    The E-Scooter.

    Nearly run down by a phalanx of the halfwits on a Darwin pavement this morning. Almost ran down another last night – idiot trying to overtake our 4wd on a darkened street, no lights on the scooter, natch.

    How soon before someone dies?


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  20. So the Liberal Party in Victoria doesn’t even pretend to believe in free speech anymore…

    “Bernie Finn faces Libs ousting over abortion stance
    Alexandra Middleton

    Outspoken Victorian MP Bernie Finn could be expelled from the Liberal Party over his controversial abortion views, just one week after resigning from his role in parliament as opposition whip.

    Sky News revealed on Monday there were talks of ousting Mr Finn from the party, with three sources confirming a vote could be held as early as next Tuesday to decide Mr Finn’s future.

    It comes just two weeks after Mr Finn posted controversial anti-abortion comments on social media.
    Mr Finn took to Facebook to voice his “excitement” over leaked draft anti-abortion legislation in the United States, adding he hoped similar laws would “come here soon” and “killing babies is criminal”.

    When approached for comment on the matter by Sky News, Mr Finn said: “I don’t know what grounds anybody would use to have me removed from the Liberal Party”.

    He added Victorians should instead be concentrating on Premier Daniel Andrews’ “crimes” against his state.

    Politicians on both sides in Victoria have previously voiced their opinions on Mr Finn’s abortion stance, with tourism minister Martin Pakula labelling his comments “appalling”.

    Victorian opposition leader Matthew Guy – who Mr Finn said he hasn’t spoken to “for some months” – has also made it clear he was “sick” of Mr Finn’s comments.

    Mr Finn has been part of the Liberal Party for nearly 42 years and a member of the Victorian Parliament for more than 20 years.”

    So being anti-abortion and wanting to preserve life is “appalling”.

    How long before Christians and Jews are imprisoned in Victoria?

    Words fail me…and that unusual for me.


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  21. You had Steve from Brissy and Homer censoring your free speech on your own blog (to which you could readily return, and speak freely. But then you would have an audience of three (including yourself).

    And:

    We get a bit of that here.

    Grass is greener syndrome, combined with delusions of adequacy.
    1. Start their own enterprise, or be centrally involved in it;
    2. Discover it’s shit;
    3. Be overtaken and swamped by even bigger nuffies than themselves;
    4. Park their own setup on the side of the road; and
    5. Walk back to the place where they started, and resume the same ‘repetitive gibber’ as though nothing had happened in the meantime.


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  22. Top Ender:

    The Ormiston raid, whose perpetrators were so cocky they posted their own video online, was emblematic of a crime wave sweeping New Zealand. Shootings and stabbings are also commonplace as gangs fight for dominance of the lucrative methamphetamine trade.

    How odd.
    The government made a law and now the criminals have taken over and are destroying their carefully planned and utterly impractical social nirvana.
    How many times does this happen?
    Alcohol – Italian Mafia
    Tobacco -Indonesian Tobacco growers
    Marijuana – Mexican Cartels
    Guns – Lebanese Crime gangs
    Heroin – Chinese Crime gangs
    Prostitution – Asian sex slave trade
    Methamphetamine – Chinese Crime gangs
    Fentanyl – Chinese and South American Crime Gangs
    We’ve seen this movie so bloody many times, and the bastards in Parliament keep doing the same thing – make it illegal and the trade in dodgy shit just keeps corrupting the legal system.
    OR IS THIS THE REASON FOR THE ILLEGALITY?


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  23. Monty.

    You started by presenting a figure as “proof” of a free form racism justifying BLM.
    The figure you chose was blacks killed in traffic stops.
    As the % of population didn’t match the % killed you assumed racism.
    When given another set of figures which go a long way to explaining that over representation you decide that it’s more important to look at individual cases.

    After misrepresenting my comments as racist.

    It’s just grubby, dishonest and bad faith


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  24. I would prefer not to be skittled by a brain dead scooterer, hurtling towards me at a great rate of knots, feeble bell tinkling menacingly.

    Is there some scooter collector who runs around at dead of night picking them up and recharging them? I know you have to use a QR code to get one going. Is there an abandoned scooter graveyard?


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  25. Is there some scooter collector who runs around at dead of night picking them up and recharging them? I know you have to use a QR code to get one going. Is there an abandoned scooter graveyard?

    I think they have basic on-board comms and GPS, which tells ScootaHQ when the battery is getting low.
    Whatever you might say about Melbournians, one thing they excelled at was finding innovative locations to place e-bikes, o-bikes, q-bikes and whatever other variations they have had.
    Up trees, on rooves, in the bay, in the river.
    I wonder if e-scooters will go the same way.


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  26. Kieran Gilbert on daytime Sky tried to draw a comparison between the Chinese spy ship transiting along west coats of Australia and ships transiting through South China Sea.
    James Patterson was very solid throughout the interview and in this case pointed out that (i) South China Sea is international waters and a much used cargo route, whereas the west coast where the spy ship was operating is not the same at all. It was clearly aimed at electronic surveillance of military installations. Exmouth is famous for relaying communications to submerged USA nuclear submarines.


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  27. Rural people mostly scared of lockdown imposition?
    That wasn’t my observation travelling in rural Victoria and through western New South Wales in May 2020.
    Not with threats to shoot people and various other imprecations against the disease ridden.
    And I agree farmers produce but rural towns have their fair share of intergenerational welfare types.


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  28. Scooters must be good for the batteries at least, if only some enterprising soul would set about repurposing them. It would piss the ninnies in council off so the benefit would not be trivial.


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  29. There are many official signs suggesting that China’s doors are indeed closing quietly.

    Great news, though it’s probably a case of shutting the door after the horse has bolted.


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  30. On a more positive note, went to the Darwin Museum today. Only a little place, but it is very good. Excellent exhibits, a perfect place to take children for snapshots of the earth’s timeline and local fauna.

    And the Cyclone Tracy exhibit – the Beloved and I had just started “going out” when that thing hit Darwin, so it will be forever meshed with the whirlwind of new romance.

    The Yr 12 art exhibit was a bit disturbing to me though – the majority of the work was depressing, dislocated, dark. You expect a level of teenage angst but this was different to the NSW Art Express I’ve see in previous years. The world is their oyster and they are miserable. It shouldn’t be like this.


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  31. Furthermore, after donning the tinfoil hat. Scooters are the first step in banning cars in the cities couched initially in terms of benevolence. The bug eating and pod living lifestyle.


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  32. The world is their oyster and they are miserable. It shouldn’t be like this.

    They have just finished twelve years of being told they are racist, sexist, homophobic imperialist swine by the education system and that the planet is going to fry because of their selfishness. Can’t really blame them for some level of despondency.


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  33. Roger says:
    May 16, 2022 at 1:29 pm

    There’s always been a significant rural/urban divide. I’ve found it hard to get through to people that rural areas just flat out don’t have the services available cities do…

    Yep.

    The biggest divide in Australia is between the regions where the wealth is mostly produced and the metropolitan areas where it mostly gets consumed.

    In fairness, that’s the history of civilisation. Rome did not produce its own wealth – it provided the intellectual and social and legal framework for the Empire, backed up by its military might.

    That’s how the world works.

    While these resentful sentiments will never go away, nor will reality.


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  34. Calli.

    In case you missed my earlier suggestion, make sure you enjoy the virtual reality bombing of Darwin at the RFDS on the harbour. Enjoy.


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  35. You started by presenting a figure as “proof” of a free form racism justifying BLM.
    The figure you chose was blacks killed in traffic stops.
    As the % of population didn’t match the % killed you assumed racism.
    When given another set of figures which go a long way to explaining that over representation you decide that it’s more important to look at individual cases.

    Your contention, mole, is that because blacks are over-represented in the murder statistics, cops should be more prepared to shoot black people at traffic stops.

    This is racial profiling, straight up. You are advocating racism.

    People like you are why BLM exists, and they have a valid point.


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  36. That would be the Grand Mufti who was chummy with H1tler, and blessed a Moooslim SS division?

    Indeed – the Grand Mufti who visited Berlin, was given a guided tour of an extermination camp, had an interview with H1tler, and received a grantee that, in the event of a Nazi victory, “The Jews of Palestine are yours.” He was also Yasser Arafat’s uncle.


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  37. rickw:

    If it was a false flag, it was the biggest fail ever, people took their semi auto shotgun money and brought scoped rifles in .223 and .308 etc. If I was Dictator Dan I would have much preferred they kept their shotguns….

    See my post above (May 16, 2022 at 4:18 pm)
    Have you seen any government program executed below cost/ below time and with no opportunity for graft for maaates?
    Of course it was a stuffup.


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  38. You are not that dumb Monty.

    M0nty loves trolling. It’s his perversion. Yes, he is stupid, but he doesn’t actually believe the garbage he spreads here, he doesn’t believe anything very much. He just loves to get a rise.
    Posting inane crap is his idea of time well spent, which is very sad. But it’s who he is. He makes me feel slightly guilty for laughing at him, but I console myself by reflecting that as a demonstration that it is a capital error to argue with lefties, he has value.


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  39. That’s how the world works.

    Not if we pursued a policy of population decentralisation.

    The USA, for example, is not NYC, LA & Chicago, and a few other major cities.

    To an extent we saw this with the Forgan-Smith govt in QLD, with the encouragement of the noted Anglo-Australian economist Colin Clark, which is largely why we are Australia’s most decentralised state. Even so, modern Labor governments here have tended to be metropolitan-centric when it comes to allocating public resources.


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  40. If it was a false flag, it was the biggest fail ever, people took their semi auto shotgun money and brought scoped rifles in .223 and .308 etc. If I was Dictator Dan I would have much preferred they kept their shotguns….

    I heard one bloke turned in some old Bren gun barrels he had lying around. Actually he allegedly turned in many more than he had lying around as the money was good. He owned a CNC metalworking shop. 🙂


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  41. Hey Knuckles, have you heard anything about Zac Rolfe?

    IIRR he is suspended on pay by NTPol.

    I thought he would be sueing the NT Government by now.


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  42. Boambee John:

    Socialist Unity? ROFLMAO. But they would purge kulaks like you come the revolution, so there is that.

    So they have some good points?
    Funny isn’t it, they NEVER see that one coming!
    “Oh! If only Comrade Stalin knew!”


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  43. And speaking of plod…

    FLAT WHITE

    Sergeant Bruno’s big mistake
    James Macpherson / The Spectator

    A Victorian policeman is under investigation for posting online that there are only two genders.

    And so he should be!

    Everyone knows there are actually three genders: Males (pronouns he/him), Females (pronouns she/her), and Narcissists (pronouns me!/me!/me!).

    The Age newspaper reported this week that 62-year-old Sergeant Bruno Staffieri was interviewed by officers from Professional Standards Command over an online comment he made to an officer working in the Gender Equality and Inclusion Command.

    Staffieri reportedly wrote:

    ‘So you are doing tertiary education studying genders. I’ll make it easy for you to pass … there are 2.’

    Someone call triple-zero!

    You have to hand it to Victoria Police; they know what constitutes inappropriate behaviour.

    Shoot peaceful protesters with rubber bullets? No consequences.

    Pepper spray law-abiding citizens? No consequences.

    Harass old ladies sitting in a park during Covid lockdown? No consequences.

    Slam people into the pavement for not wearing a mask? No consequences.

    But if you dare to state a biological fact, everyone – from the Deputy Commissioner down – wets their pants.

    Sergeant Staffieri should demand to know how many genders there are so that he can be more accurate in future.

    Google doesn’t know, so we’ll wait for the answer.

    Oh, and if you’re the victim of an actual offence, you’ll have to wait too. Police are busy attending to thought crimes.

    Staffieri, who has been an officer for more than 35 years and is close to retirement, could lose his job because of the online comments.

    This is not the first time Staffieri has upset police command with views that, until five minutes ago, were entirely unremarkable.

    Staffieri was also investigated over his public criticism of the government’s decision to cancel Australia Day and Anzac Day celebrations last year, but allow the Gay Pride March in St Kilda to proceed.

    ‘So the next time Australians are sent out to fight a war, maybe we can send out the 8,000 that marched today … and try to stop the enemy by waving feathers and brightly coloured boas at them,’ Staffieri reportedly posted on May 17, 2021.

    ‘Triple-zero. What’s your emergency?’

    ‘Sergent Staffieri objected to the Mardi Gras.’

    ‘Does anyone need help?’

    ‘Yes. We are all very hurty.’

    ‘Does Sergeant Staffieri have a weapon?’

    ‘It’s his words. His words! Words are violence.’

    ‘Stay in a safe space and practice socially distancing until a squad car full of thought police arrives.’

    In June last year, Victoria Police Deputy Commissioner Neil Paterson posted on Yammer, the force’s internal communication platform, that…

    ‘Victoria Police is proud to have been recognised as a silver employer at the 2021 Australian LGBTQ+ inclusion awards.’

    Staffieri reportedly responded by posting:

    ‘Yes, I agree. Great achievement. But if the public knew how much time, effort, and taxpayer dollars went into this, they would also be demanding why we didn’t get a gold.’

    That’s pretty funny.

    Paterson didn’t think so. According to The Age, he defended the campaign and denied it had received significant public funding.

    Staffieri responded:

    ‘Sir, I totally value and respect your opinion and your rank, I simply ask that you value and respect mine.’

    Paterson fired a broadside back at Staffieri…

    ‘I don’t respect or value your views as they are offensive and there is no place for those views in Victoria Police… Either limit your comments on Yammer to comments that are respectful of everyone or consider your employment options.’

    So in Daniel Andrews’ Victoria, it’s an honest police officer who tells the truth who is threatened with the sack for being in possession of what police hierarchy call ‘those views’

    Maybe, if Sergeant Staffieri flies the Chinese flag outside his station, all will be forgiven.


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  44. Ben Roberts-Smith loses ‘leaked email’ challenge against ex-wife

    Perry Duffin
    Senior Court Reporter
    @perryduffin1
    NCA NewsWire
    12:14PM May 16, 2022

    Ben Roberts-Smith has been denied an appeal that could have seen him grill his ex-wife about whether she leaked his private emails to his critics in the media.

    Mr Roberts-Smith is suing Nine newspapers for a series of articles that accused him of war crimes, bullying and domestic violence.

    The Victoria Cross recipient denies every allegation against him and has faced off against his accusers in court including SAS soldiers, his ex-wife Emma Roberts and his alleged former ‘mistress’ who is known as Person 17.

    The soldier‘s lover had appeared on the doorstep of the family home, in April 2018, and thrown Ms Roberts’ life “into chaos”, she would tell the court in evidence.

    Mr Roberts-Smith and Ms Roberts separated in 2020 as his legal action worked through the Federal Court.

    He launched a second lawsuit in mid-2021, against his former wife, accusing her of accessing his private emails to Nine either personally or through her best friend.

    Ms Roberts denied his claims.

    A Federal Court judge, in January this year, accepted Ms Roberts‘ denials and ruled Mr Roberts-Smith’s lawyers could not cross-examine her in the stand.

    Mr Roberts-Smith applied for a chance to appeal but Justice Michael Wigney, on Monday, refused the soldier‘s bid.

    “Mr Roberts- Smith’s real complaint appears to be that the primary judge did not weigh up the evidence in a way which favoured him,” Justice Wigney said in his judgment on Monday.

    “The decision of the primary judge is not attended with sufficient doubt to warrant reconsideration by the Full Court.”

    Justice Wigney also noted that Ms Roberts‘ evidence in the main trial, against Nine, touched on her access to the emails. If anything significant changed as a result of her evidence, the judge said, Mr Roberts-Smith could launch other legal appeals.

    It means the original judge‘s decision will stand and Ms Roberts will not have to step into the witness box to answer questions about the emails.

    Mr Roberts-Smith‘s lawyers, in the 2021 lawsuit, claimed Ms Roberts had access to an email connected with his public speaking company, RS Group, and suspected either she or her best friend Danielle Scott had leaked its contents.



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  45. m0ntysays:
    May 16, 2022 at 4:58 pm

    Stop lying fatboy.
    Two simple scenarios.
    A. The police are following a car because they clocked that car going 70 in a 60 zone. The driver pulls over, appears to get something out of the glovebox, and turns towards the approaching cop.
    B. The police are following a car because there’s been a report that the car has been stolen by a violent felon. The driver pulls over, appears to get something out of the glovebox, and turns towards the approaching cop.
    In which scenario is it more likely that the cop will shoot (rightly or wrongly)?
    Skin colour’s got nothing to do with the cop’s judgment in either case. It’s just a simple fact that violent felons are more likely to get shot. So if demographic group X is overrepresented among violent felons demographic group X is likely to be overrepresented in “shot by police” stats.


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  46. callisays:

    May 16, 2022 at 4:37 pm

    It’s known as Darwin Harbour.

    Reef and habitat creation.

    Environmentally sound.

    Err, batteries + fish.
    Not so sure about that.


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  47. DrBeauGansays:
    May 16, 2022 at 5:05 pm
    ….
    M0nty loves trolling. It’s his perversion.

    You say that like it’s proven that he has only the one.

    Anyway, up to a point Dr B. When the fat imbecile starts lying about what other people have said and accusing them falsely of supporting racist killings it’s no longer a joke. It’s a danger to the blog, and the mendacious turd needs to be punted.


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  48. Skin colour’s got nothing to do with the cop’s judgment in either case. It’s just a simple fact that violent felons are more likely to get shot.

    We’re talking about traffic stops here, not violent felonies. What a stupid post, Tim.


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  49. So if demographic group X is overrepresented among violent felons demographic group X is likely to be overrepresented in “shot by police”

    There is no point whatever in using logic, reason or anything citing numbers or calculation to m0nty. You should have noticed by now.

    Poor m0nty has his own method of arriving at truth, and it involves polling his social circle. The idea that one might use numerical evidence and reason is totally alien to him. If you point out that his argument is bullshit, he’ll either repeat it or throw out more bullshit.

    Your fundamental assumption that you can treat him as a rational adult is just wrong. He isn’t. But he loves getting a response, it validates his trolling.


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  50. So in Daniel Andrews’ Victoria, it’s an honest police officer who tells the truth who is threatened with the sack for being in possession of what police hierarchy call ‘those views’

    Is anyone surprised?

    I wonder what the attitude of the police union is?


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  51. Your contention, mole, is that because blacks are over-represented in the murder statistics, cops should be more prepared to shoot black people at traffic stops.

    No one is contending that but you, moron.


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  52. Reports coming that Bernie Finn will be facing a motion to kick him out of the Vic Liberal party. This is exactly why they are utterly worthless reason no. 239897234


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  53. Chris Kenny just had Craig Kelly on and rightly took him to task about the ads indicating that Kelly will be next PM. “Buckleys and None”. Kenny offered free lawn mowing at the lodge if he wins. After interview called Kelly and the teals “loons”.

    I saw a full page ad in Herald Sun with the heading Our Next PM with Kelly’s face full page. Simply delusional and shows Palmer is totally out of touch if he thinks his party can form Government.

    It is rare that I read paper edition of the Oz and the Courier Mail but saw both today. Full Pages 2-3 all Palmer ads with page 3 mainly attacking PM with quotes from Barnaby Joyce.

    If Kelly did not have to defend the ridiculous PM ads he could have spent the interview talking about vote for Palmer candidates who perhaps might have a chance to help with balance of power if got some seats.

    Dont get me wrong as I would like to see Kelly remain in Parliament. However Palmer has just been totally delusional in relation to their ads.


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  54. Western Australia’s COVID-19 cases in hospital surge past 300 amid calls for restrictions to be reintroduced

    300 people are in hospital with (note: not ‘due to’ – this data isn’t released) Covid and the medical Nazis want to mask us up again. Probably support another lockdown, too. Why not?

    Western Australia is still sitting far below the expected peak in daily case numbers, which Mr McGowan said could reach around 25,000 — more than double today’s figures — according to the Chief Health Officer.

    The expected peak was 10,000/day a few weeks ago and the media monomaniacally focussed on the fact that we didn’t *quite* get there. This is why the government doesn’t release its ‘modelling’. Doesn’t matter what happens, the state will always claim ‘well, this is in line with our modelling which we won’t show you – aren’t we doing a brilliant job?’. Absolute bullshit.


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  55. However Palmer has just been totally delusional in relation to their ads.

    Has he explained how he’ll enforce his mortgage interest rate cap yet?


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  56. Angie Skys 8
    @AngieSkys
    · May 15
    Oops
    According to the Wall Street Bank JP Morgan Russia’s economy is coping better than could be expected. Only a very mild recession is being predicted. Meanwhile Russia’s oil export revenue has jumped some 50%. Moscow has earned some 20 billion each month this year so far.

    I’m not quite sure these figures indicate that RUS is China’s bitch and they certainly indicate that sanctions are not working. Quite amazing really.


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  57. rosiesays:
    May 16, 2022 at 4:50 pm
    Is ‘cookers’ a reference to the one time topic de jour ‘spirit cooking?’.

    Perhaps, but if so, munty needs to do some research. Those I saw mentioned in relation to “spirit cooking” tended to be left wing DemonRat so-called “progressives”.

    OTOH, if munty is actually referring to the “spirit cookers”, he might have inadvertently hit the correct target – his political soulmates!


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  58. Let me edit that for you, Fatboy.

    Your contention, mole, is that because blacks are way over-represented in the murder statistics at about 8:1, and they appear to attack cops frequently, and there are a lot of guns in the US, cops are generally afraid of blacks.


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  59. I tend to only keep an eye on ABC News. Did other media sources report Albanese’s NDIS six point plan clusterfuck? The ABC didn’t mention it. You can guarantee it’d be top of their stack for days if Scummo made that kind of mistake. In all honesty, Albo’s NDIS ‘gaffe’ and his subsequent, blatant reading off of a cheat sheet looked to me to be a very serious screw-up. He just looked terrible. Figuratively and literally not ready for prime time.

    I’m quite surprised how bad Albo has been on the campaign trail. He wasn’t such a crappy media performer in the past. I wonder if he lost the knack because he made himself the invisible man throughout 2020 and much of 2021.


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  60. Rogersays:

    May 16, 2022 at 5:55 pm

    However Palmer has just been totally delusional in relation to their ads.

    Has he explained how he’ll enforce his mortgage interest rate cap yet?

    Bloody Liberal shill!!!
    🙂
    🙂


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  61. Your contention, mole, is that because blacks are over-represented in the murder statistics, cops should be more prepared to shoot black people at traffic stops.

    This is racial profiling, straight up. You are advocating racism.

    People like you are why BLM exists, and they have a valid point.

    No, munty, that is your interpretation, which seems to be based on some form of claimed white intellectual supremacy. Examine your privilege!


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  62. m0ntysays:
    May 16, 2022 at 5:39 pm
    Skin colour’s got nothing to do with the cop’s judgment in either case. It’s just a simple fact that violent felons are more likely to get shot.

    We’re talking about traffic stops here, not violent felonies. What a stupid post, Tim.

    munty

    Either you didn’t read the comment, or you are unable to comprehend plain English. Perhaps in future do not respond, and be thought to be stupid, rather than rushing to the keyboard and proving that you are.


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  63. This is why the government doesn’t release its ‘modelling’. Doesn’t matter what happens, the state will always claim ‘well, this is in line with our modelling which we won’t show you – aren’t we doing a brilliant job?’. Absolute bullshit.

    I never give McClown any credit; he’s a fucking moron. But on radio some weeks back he said they wouldn’t release the modelling data “because its just modelling data and doesn’t always reflect reality.”

    I tried to call in to ask him about climate modelling then…??

    Couldn’t get thru…


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  64. TE:

    Hey Knuckles, have you heard anything about Zac Rolfe?

    Not a single peep. Or gurgle.

    Last I heard he was still suspended – after vowing to continue in his role as a Constable, thus sending the top floor into conniptions.

    I also hear that the NT jack union has deliberately gone a bit quiet, in exchange for concessions at their upcoming EB later this year. Shameful either way, I reckon. In any event, he’ll be back in the spotlight come September when the inquest starts.


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  65. Who knew that Scott Morrison has taken the Liberal Party to the far-right? Well apparently he has….

    Example One, yesterday I waited outside my home for a friend to collect me. An elderly man, who I vaguely know, walked past and stopped for a chat. We started talking about the election and he told me he was supporting Princess Allegra because Morrison has taken the Liberal Party to the far-right. I kid you not.

    Example Two, speaking to another friend last night, she told me how she went to a party on Saturday night and whilst she was talking to a couple of people, she overheard a group of men saying how Scott Morrison has taken the Liberal Party to the far-right. I kid you not.

    Example Three, today at work some of my colleagues started talking about the election. I don’t join the conversation and listening to them I felt my hackles rising. They were talking about how Scott Morrison has taken the Liberal Party to the far-right. I kid you not.

    I’m speechless.


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  66. Is ‘cookers’ a reference to the one time topic de jour ‘spirit cooking?’.

    Cookers are conspiracy theory believers who attend regular protests. Bosi has been seen every week addressing the cookers in Canberra. Other prominent cookers include the aforementioned Mack, Graham Hood, and Monica Smits.


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  67. Voting ticket in Wentworth had a long list of unknown parties pretending to be real ones, and a few ‘obvious’ single issue ones, such as the Senior’s Party and Animal Justice Party. In the Senate you have to pick six above the line, not just one, as previously. It was a bit of a task finding six that were bearable to number when I felt not up to date with recent goings on in Australia.

    The whole country here is currently going beserko over the Platinum Jubilee, 70 years of Elizabeth the Second. We will be back in Australia on June 2, the day it really reaches its finale here. Last night was part of the intro on ITV, doing the Queen’s Horse Parade thingo, which she has attended now for 79 years straight, never missing one. It is rather like the Edinburgh Tattoo in style, full of Commonwealth colour, as it were. Her Maj was there last night, looking good, engaged and smiling, and clearly Queen of people’s hearts; she’d made it her one outing favoring it above the Westminster Parliamentary Reading, which was done by Prince Charles. Kathleen Jenkins sang like an angel, and Helen Mirren ended proceedings as a very impressive Elizabeth the First congratulating her successor.


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  68. Calli:

    Nearly run down by a phalanx of the halfwits on a Darwin pavement this morning. Almost ran down another last night – idiot trying to overtake our 4wd on a darkened street, no lights on the scooter, natch.
    How soon before someone dies?

    Think of it as evolution in action.


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  69. Chris Rock’s educational video on not getting your arse kicked by police

    Wonder what Munty makes of this? White supremacist? Uncle Tom?


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  70. “I hope Elbow, assisted into gov’t by Allegra, introduces a wealth tax and a death tax.

    Democracy…good and hard.”

    Yep, that’s how I feel.


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  71. Cassie of Sydneysays:
    May 16, 2022 at 6:26 pm
    Who knew that Scott Morrison has taken the Liberal Party to the far-right? Well apparently he has….

    Example One, yesterday I waited outside my home for a friend to collect me. An elderly man, who I vaguely know, walked past and stopped for a chat. We started talking about the election and he told me he was supporting Princess Allegra because Morrison has taken the Liberal Party to the far-right. I kid you not.

    Example Two, speaking to another friend last night, she told me how she went to a party on Saturday night and whilst she was talking to a couple of people, she overheard a group of men saying how Scott Morrison has taken the Liberal Party to the far-right. I kid you not.

    Example Three, today at work some of my colleagues started talking about the election. I don’t join the conversation and listening to them I felt my hackles rising. They were talking about how Scott Morrison has taken the Liberal Party to the far-right. I kid you not.

    I’m speechless.

    Can you imagine if Dutton had won the leadership? Far right, nazi, and a bunch of others have become meaningless because they’ve become a synonym for “someone I don’t agree with”.


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  72. Cookers are

    ‘What the fuck is that?’
    ‘That’s an early Kooka, mate.’

    – Conversation between one of NSW’s finest and grifting lawyer Brian Alexander, just before Brian went swimming (the timeless ABC miniseries Blue Murder).


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  73. I wonder if he lost the knack because he made himself the invisible man throughout 2020 and much of 2021.

    Knowing our luck, it’s early onset dementia.


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  74. Criminy.

    The adrenaline dumps must be volcanic.

    Purely platonic as I’m happily married.

    But she’s a globalist’s sweetheart, she really is.

    As I was saying to Klaus….


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  75. Armchair Warlord
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    Russian river-crossing operation over the Seversky Donets continues to be a complete disaster.

    /dry sarcasm

    Quote Tweet
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    Georgij Konstantinovi? žukov ??
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    ???The administration of SEVERSK [Sivers’k] is being evacuated today with the last bus to Dnepropetrovsk on May 16, 2022, by the way, civilians can also leave in this last bus … Soon the assault on the city …

    Interesting development indeed.


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  76. Cookers are conspiracy theory believers

    Who knew that Capt James Cook didn’t find a nuclear powered civilization in Australia? And that him coming here was the best thing ever to happen to the aboriginal people? At least until the Labor Party got their hooks into them.

    Amazing these conspiracy theories. Next you’ll be telling us that the British Empire was bad for civilization and that we should all return to the caves and eat tofu.


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  77. They were talking about how Scott Morrison has taken the Liberal Party to the far-right.

    Believing that free speech might be a good thing is enough to be a Nazi so by modern logic he probably has.


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  78. Such a great video, and reminds me of a couple of incidents in motor bike days.

    . Chris Rock’s don’t get your arse kicked and George Carlin’s “The Planet is fine …. the people are fucked” always gives me reason to smile. Oh and not forgetting Cathy Newman’s so you’re saying – with Jordan Peterson (almost 38million views when I watched it the other day)


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  79. We must stop Kimberley crime wave at its source, says worker
    Holly Thompson
    By Holly Thompson
    May 16, 2022 — 3.00am

    Millions in funding just promised for the beautiful but troubled West Australian Kimberley to address skyrocketing youth crime will not fix the problem at its core, say those on the front line.

    In an opinion piece on Monday, a Kimberley-based youth worker, who cannot be named to protect his job, called out a lack of screening for Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder despite a decade of pleas, as crimes linked to the disorder range from petty to spectacularly violent.

    The youth worker said children breaking the law and being sent to juvenile detention suffered from mental impairments such as FASD at “almost endemic rates and are far behind their peers, both emotionally and cognitively.”

    This is echoed by prior research which showed almost all children in youth detention at Banksia Hill had a cognitive impairment, mostly FASD.

    Last week, a $40.4 million package to tackle juvenile crime was handed down in the state budget, including a $15 million youth residential facility in the Kimberley; an on-country alternative to youth detention. In addition, a $6.1 million funding boost was given to WA’s Preventing FASD Project, which is focused on public education and prevention, not screening for children who already have FASD.

    It followed a leaked briefing note from a meeting involving WA government ministers and community leaders, citing information from WA Police that youth crime rates in the region had increased 54 per cent over the past two years.

    But the youth worker said funding needed to target the times “before these young people break the law” and that “prevention is cheaper (and more beneficial to the child in question) than cure.”

    Curtin University’s Dr Jocelyn Jones has expertise in how FASD is impacting the Kimberley community and said the biggest problem was the cost to improve screening services and provide the training required.

    “I think there’s a big investment that needs to happen. Maybe the way to do this is to not only focus on training for screening FASD, maybe it’s providing training on neurodevelopmental disorders as a collective,” she said.

    “It’s then about funding that training and resources, and being able to provide screening for FASD in the remote areas, rather than having people come down to the city or go into the more populated parts of the regions.

    “At the moment, FASD is commonly misdiagnosed as autism or ADHD.”
    Dr Jocelyn Jones is a Nyoongar woman from Curtin University’s National Drug Research Institute. She is program leader and senior research fellow in the Needs of Aboriginal Australians program.

    Dr Jocelyn Jones is a Nyoongar woman from Curtin University’s National Drug Research Institute. She is program leader and senior research fellow in the Needs of Aboriginal Australians program.

    Jones also said there needed to be better communication between the remote Aboriginal communities and state government agencies.

    “A lot of women don’t come forward, even if they suspect their child could have FASD because they are scared the Department of Child Protection will take their kids away,” she said.



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  80. Cookers are conspiracy theory believers

    It depends on the “conspiracy theory”.

    I believe the really big one. It has cosmic proportions and eternal implications.

    Perhaps all the others are simply distractions.


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  81. Monty, WTF are “cookers” (besides old cast iron stoves)?

    I obviously live on the wrong side of the rabbit proof fence to keep up with the cool kids and the new slanguage currently in vogue around the campus and vegan cafe.


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  82. “Cookers are conspiracy theory believers who attend regular protests. Bosi has been seen every week addressing the cookers in Canberra. Other prominent cookers include the aforementioned Mack, Graham Hood, and Monica Smits.”

    What about their “legitimate grievances” Monty? Or is that you’re rather selective when it comes to “legitimate grievances”, because the only ones you’ll tolerate are the ones that suit your favourite ideological narratives.

    Monty’s world view…..

    Conspiracy theorists = bad
    anti-Semites = good


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  83. munty

    Cookers are conspiracy theory believers who attend regular protests. Bosi has been seen every week addressing the cookers in Canberra.

    You mean like BLM, Ante-fa, the raving Greens? Riiight!


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  84. Who knew that Scott Morrison has taken the Liberal Party to the far-right? Well apparently he has….

    These ppl are like m0nty. They can mouth any proposition, no matter how ludicrous, because their social circle say it. None of their seeming assertions are connected via meaning to any actual state of the world.

    It’s a strange use of language, it signals group membership and nothing else. Once you come to terms with it, you realise the futility of argument.


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  85. As I was saying to Klaus….

    She’s destined for bigger things than The Voice, I said…much bigger things.

    He agreed, but averred gravely that he was preoccupied with the recalcitrance of Xi and Putin presently.

    I understand, I offered symapthetically.

    Thereupon he wandered off as if in a daze, repeating rythmically, “Multipolarity…multipolarity…”


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  86. I love the “Mean Girl” tag, Tinta.

    Where oh where are those horrid Mean Girls? Are they still running for Parliament? Why yes! Yes they are!


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  87. It depends on the “conspiracy theory”.
    I believe the really big one.

    I am with you there. 100%, all the way down the line. For you uninformed sheeple, this is The Big One:

    In the latter half of 1979, a chap called Brian James Dixon was Victoria’s Housing Minister. Dixon had previously played 252 VFL games for the Melbourne Football Club.

    Very shortly after he took over the Housing portfolio, Dixon paid the VFL Grand Final boundary umpires a hefty sling. The result was simple – Carlton’s Wayne Harmes brought a ball back into the field of play from about 10 metres (half a chain) beyond the boundary line to a teammate who kicked the winning goal against Collingwood in the game’s dying moments.

    Carlton won the flag. Collingwood’s real estate prices stayed in the cellar, poncy East Melbourne went through the roof and Dixon retired early, probably, on the proceeds of his investments in that patch.

    Believe. The truth will set you free.


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  88. BLM was a 100% Demonrat astroturf operation. It was meant to show the GOP and Trump in a bad light and persuade the punters they were hate filled racists.

    Marc Alias, Clinton’s despicable election lawyer was on the board.


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  89. The fact that BLM even existed was considered to be a wing nut conspiracy theory for a while back there. They were meant to be unorganised concerned citizens that just congregated organically to right injustices as opposed to being a coordinated group.


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  90. Rogersays:

    May 16, 2022 at 6:30 pm

    I’m speechless.

    I hope Elbow, assisted into gov’t by Allegra, introduces a wealth tax and a death tax

    There might be some buyer’s remorse next week among the leafy Greens if Jim Chalmers gets stuck into family trusts.


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  91. Where oh where are those horrid Mean Girls? Are they still running for Parliament? Why yes! Yes they are!

    I’ve doubled my prayer quota and top of the list is my prayer that Dai Le wins the seat of Fowler — however tempting it is to change KKK (Komrade Killing Keneally) for FFF the Foul Fowl of Fowler – I’d prefer KKK not win the seat at all — an unbroken record of failure would be just the icing on her grifitng political career.


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  92. Correct JC- the Demorats started a race war. They don’t want minorities being productive citizens. They want them rotting on welfare (good source of cannon fodder for their wars too).


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  93. The pseudonymous Walter Waverley has his latest on Allegra at Quadrant. His responses to her Bot texts are magnificent. It almost has a Professor Bunyip feel to it.

    For all of Spender’s canned riff about government accountability and failure to listen, it appears she has no appetite for listening to her potential electorate herself.

    The upside of all this is that if the Teals do have the balance of power and side with Albo, they will likely repeat the chaos and shambles of Windsor and Oakeshott. The lead up to a 2025 election would be a clown show that could make Rudd-Gillard-Rudd a model of stability.


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  94. In the latter half of 1979, a chap called Brian James Dixon was Victoria’s Housing Minister.

    From memory his not-so-official title was “Minister for Getting His Picture in the Paper”.


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  95. The good thing about Australian politics is that it makes Cuba look quite sane and reasonable by comparison. I don’t think Cuban cops would get the sack for pointing out that there are two sexes.

    And American politics makes Russia look sane and reasonable by comparison. I am pretty sure Putin could say what a woman is.


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  96. I am currently reading a book I picked up at Hairy’s brother’s place. It is a very British book about growing up, growing older and achieving self-realisation by sticking to a challenge, the challenge in this case being chalking up 200 birds in a one-year bird-watching marathon. Its author is Lev Parikian, a noted orchestral conductor, a Londoner who is gainfully employed by the grace of the many community orchestras in which London abounds, one of which has Hairy’s brother and his wife as participant musicians.

    A lapsed birdwatcher from childhood (as is Hairy), this unlikely top-selling book is a highly amusing and engaging account of Parikian’s quest for life’s meaning at a certain age, where honesty about sightings is the key rather than previous childhood aggrandizement about them. It rather reminds me of Alasdair Moffat’s similar search for meaning at Lindisfarne, in a book I reviewed a few years ago for Quadrant. Like Moffat, Parikian presents as another mad Britisher of a vague and not-too-dangerously leftie turn (par for the London elites) realising that life’s twig from which we must all fall is getting shorter.

    Australians similarly placed on the twig with an interest in music and birds would enjoy it, for he welds his themes in a bracingly honest self-revealing dialogue with himself about his trials, within his family and with other watchers in bird-hides, that keeps you page-turning. It might make a Quadrant review, with some choice excerpts to give the flavour. Lots of ifs though: I have time and if they might want it.


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  97. We’ve already had a couple of deaths on escooters here in Perth. One or two councils are looking at putting a ban on their use after dark. Why not? They ban every other bloody thing.


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  98. DrBeauGansays:
    May 16, 2022 at 7:11 pm
    The good thing about Australian politics is that it makes Cuba look quite sane and reasonable by comparison. I don’t think Cuban cops would get the sack for pointing out that there are two sexes.

    And American politics makes Russia look sane and reasonable by comparison. I am pretty sure Putin could say what a woman is.

    I recall Putin making a point of honoring mothers sometime in the last couple of years, for being the ones who create a future for Russia. Can you imagine a politician here doing that?
    Didn’t Viktor Orban do much the same for Hungary too? Despite his credentials standing up to the soviet union, he’s been castigated by pretty much all and sundry outside Hungary.


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  99. Bob’s take; “It was above the boundary line!”

    It was three rows back.
    It came back with tomato sauce on it.
    But it only upsets KD, so we probably shouldn’t talk about it.


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  100. The book is titled ‘Why do Birds Suddenly Disappear?’ and fear not, it is not a book about ‘climate change’ or an overwrought view of the loss of species in Britain. It is about how it is difficult to hunt out rarer birds in their habitat because they are pesky little hiders, the ones you really really want to spot, who set out deliberately the thwart you; or so it seems.


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  101. So according to m0nty there has never once in history been a conspiracy of any kind.

    No terrorists, no organized crime, no gangs, no state/military secrets, no security clearances. Nobody has ever engaged in secret nefarious activity before and anybody who says they have is a “cooker”.

    FMD leftists would be hilarious except they’re allowed to vote. They all started using the term “cooker” to describe people who objected to taking lots of drugs and they all think they’re really clever for having done so.


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  102. In NSW we have Matt Kean, aka Mr Green who, when he isn’t trying to disendorse Katherine Deves, is smearing conservatives as Trumpists and Putin sympathisers.

    In Victoria they have Groundhog Guy. I don’t know who’s worse….

    “Controversial Victorian Liberal Bernie Finn says he finds it “extraordinary” that his colleagues are moving to expel him from the party days before a federal election.

    Opposition Leader Matthew Guy confirmed on Monday afternoon that Victorian Liberal MPs will vote on Mr Finn’s future in the party when state parliament resumes next week.

    “It is imperative that Liberal Members of Parliament must be solely focused on recovering and rebuilding Victoria,” Mr Guy said.

    “A continued lack of discipline and repeated actions detrimental to the party’s ability to stand up for the interests of Victorians has left no other option but to consider Mr Finn’s eligibility to represent the Liberal Party.”

    Mr Finn resigned as opposition whip last week after Mr Guy publicly rebuked social media comments that he is “praying” for abortion to be banned in Australia, in response to the leaked US Supreme Court draft decision on the issue.

    He subsequently publicly declared that rape victims should not be given access to abortion.

    Responding to Mr Guy’s statement on Monday, Mr Finn told The Australian: “I find it extraordinary that this move would come the week of a federal election.”

    “The federal government is facing a huge challenge on Saturday to be re-elected. For somebody to deliberately and with malice start a factional hit job within the state parliamentary party right now, I find obscene.

    “This is insanity. The last thing the federal government needs now is a major show of disunity in the Victorian division.”

    Mr Finn said Mr Guy had not spoken to him directly “for some months” and he had learnt of the move to expel him through the media.

    “After 23 years in the parliamentary party, I would have thought the leader would at least be prepared to make a phone call,” he said.

    “I thought one of the basic tenets of the Liberal Party was freedom of speech. What I said last week is nothing new.

    “Matthew Guy sat next to me in a number of divisions through the abortion debate in 2008. We voted exactly the same on every single division. Now he tells me there’s no room for my views in the party.”



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  103. FMD.
    My dog Spot (not his real name) is an expensive klutz.
    His latest trick?
    Managed to hook a dew claw into his collar and then tore the claw trying to untangle it.
    Off to the vet and $120 later it is fixed.


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  104. Yes the ‘west’ in in the grip of a marxist death cult which is why I prefer Putin to any of the poisonous mediocrities from Justine to blojo. First it was killing the unborn, now it’s mutilating boys and girls. What kind of a society does that to its future citizens and workers?


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  105. Australians are generally imbeciles.

    I can only speak for the areas I know. Those in the well heeled suburbs often are. There are an incredible number of ex-Libs on north side who think Zali Steggall is fantastic – although they can’t say exactly what she has achieved for the electorate. Similarly, there are still Lib devotees who can’t see how Morrison has betrayed the Party’s ideals. On the other hand, it would seem that the “westies”don’t see advantage in any of the major Parties. Good for them. West of Sydney, on the other side of the mountains, in the Central Tablelands, I see a lot of placards for UAP on house fences in the small towns.


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  106. munty’s argument about “cookers” seems to be a bit circular.

    Those who describe others as “cookers” (Hello munty!) because the others supposedly see conspiracies everywhere themselves seem to be seeing conspiracies involving the alleged “cookers”.

    It seems that munty and his fellows are themselves “cookers”.


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  107. Wrong Conspiracy Theory, KD.

    “Cosmic” and “eternal” were the hints.

    Let’s just say humanity has been in a hidden conflict since a certain entity decided to tempt them and have them for his own. With mixed results.


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  108. Tom says:
    May 16, 2022 at 9:17 am
    Gez at 8.38am, don’t blame voters for the s**t politicians Australia has. It’s not their fault and they don’t have the attention span of gnats: people have lives and don’t want to waste their time thinking about politics except for a week or so once in every cycle — a luxury they’re currently forced to forgo as we don’t have politicians we can trust on any level.

    Tom, BC, (before covid), I would’ve agreed. PC, (post covid, and during the health and financial debacle of the last two years), there is a huge number of average Aussies who’ve woken up, been woken, by what’s been done to them and the country.

    Earlier tonight, I saw Craig Kelly on Kenny on Sky. He said that he’s noted a significant number of electors entering pre-polls not asking for HTV cards – they know what they’re doing this time ‘round. So they’re no longer busy and disengaged.


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  109. Most vets wouldn’t get out of bed for $120. Our last dog had to go to the vet because it ate a whole potato which got stuck and affected its heart beat. Always chew your food.


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  110. Eyriesays:
    May 16, 2022 at 7:04 pm
    if Jim Chalmers gets stuck into family trusts.
    Won’t happen. The Liars are all into them.

    Same with a wealth tax and death duties. These days, the liars (Parliamentary and party officials) are big holders of investment houses and share portfolios. Only idiots like munty still believe that they are poor but honest wukkas, doing their best for their former production line maaaates.


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  111. He said that he’s noted a significant number of electors entering pre-polls not asking for HTV cards – they know what they’re doing this time ‘round. So they’re no longer busy and disengaged

    That doesn’t sound good for SloMo.


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  112. I’m quite surprised how bad Albo has been on the campaign trail. He wasn’t such a crappy media performer in the past.

    He’s never been under any pressure before.


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  113. I’m coming to the view that there’s more wisdom in the tradie class than in the so called professional classes.

    Because they have most probably been educated beyond their intellectual capacity.


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  114. Significant Albo wasn’t given a major portfolio like Heath or Education. Either in Government or Opposition. Groogs could be right. *shakes head and goes away to check his workings*.


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  115. miltonfsays:
    May 16, 2022 at 7:34 pm
    I’m coming to the view that there’s more wisdom in the tradie class than in the so called professional classes.

    As a retired member of the so-called “professional class”, I have felt that for a considerable time.


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  116. Rosie,

    And I agree farmers produce but rural towns have their fair share of intergenerational welfare types.

    We certainly do, although even they have been shamed into some sort of occupation because of the labour shortage out here.


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  117. although they can’t say exactly what she (Steggles) has achieved for the electorate

    Precisely bugger all. Which is why in any sane world she’d be a very good chance to be punted on Saturday (or not even elected in the first place, but that’s another issue entirely).

    P.S. The Fat Cloive Party ads are on very high rotation this evening on Sky.


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  118. These days, the liars (Parliamentary and party officials) are big holders of investment houses and share portfolio

    That’s labor philosophy as espoused by Bob Hawke, Paul Keating, Julia Gilliard and Bill Shorten. “We live in waterfront mansions, have multi million dollar share portfolios and investment properties for the good of the wukkas. You who live in such a style are filthy Tories, from the top end of town.”

    Anyone know where I can buy a “T” shirt, ridiculing Albo’s pompous remark?


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  119. There are some “interesting” domestic situations in rural areas. The Old Man had some pigs on “agistment” at a neighbours place which seemed to take a very flexible approach to the requirement for school attendance.


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  120. And I agree farmers produce but rural towns have their fair share of intergenerational welfare types.

    We certainly do, although even they have been shamed into some sort of occupation because of the labour shortage out here.

    Homewest, here in the Wild West, brought houses in certain regional towns, and moved families out of certain Perth suburbs to live. The thinking was that they could spend their welfare cheques in the local town, their kids could boost the numbers at the local school, and there was plenty of work available. To be fair, there have been a few sucess stories, but by and large, it hasn’t been a successful experiment . Nobody understands their special needs, there are no support networks, and the work available is “demeaning.”


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  121. Monty.

    A felon or ex felon, regardless of race will be over represented in numbers shot by police.

    Anyway you are determined to argue in bad faith, and stupidly at that.

    There are cases to be made where local governments treat their population as a cash cow and traffic violations are rightly seen as victimising people.


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  122. You’re spot on about Albo, HB Bear. My contacts in the transport sector say he was a huge disappointment as Transport and Infrastructure minister. He and the hacks in his office showed no interest whatsoever in transport policy or portfolio administration: it was only ever about press releases, opinion polls and caucus numbers. The gotcha moments are no surprise: we have a mind unclouded by policy principles, let alone by policy detail.


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  123. Can this be true? I knew it was a thing in WW2 but expected that modern armour would have eliminated this threat.

    Looks like the tank in front destroyed it. Note the smoke and what looks like a compression wave.


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  124. A felon or ex felon, regardless of race will be over represented in numbers shot by police.
    Blacks are more likely to be felons or ex felons?
    That’s a pretty racist assumption, would you care to walk it back?


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  125. FMD, I never thought I’d see the day.
    52/39.

    Just wow!

    You can read the polls and see the trends. In 2012, Obama went 71% to Romney’s anemic 27% among Hispanic voters. Sure, Romney is a dog-tormenting sack of human Miracle Whip, yet wow – that sucked. But today, our doddering dust puppet of a president is scoring just 26% approval with Hispanics; there are more popular foot fungi. In a recent NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll, Latinos prefer Republicans in the mid-terms 52 to 39 percent. That’s a thermonuclear bomb detonating under the Dems’ hopes and dreams.

    Not just a bomb, but the tsar bomb.


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  126. When the fat imbecile starts lying about what other people have said …

    there’s a broad principle that could have some merit

    just sayin’


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  127. Dickless

    Blacks are more likely to be felons or ex felons?
    That’s a pretty racist assumption, would you care to walk it back?

    In the US, it is a fact supported by masses of data. If you regard facts as “waaaaysssisssst”, that is simply your disconnection from reality.


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  128. Ed Casesays:
    May 16, 2022 at 8:38 pm
    Do your own research.
    Don’t tell me how you went.

    Again, Dickless runs a mile from potential exposure to factual data.

    Sad, low energy.


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  129. H B Bear

    Our last dog had to go to the vet because it ate a whole potato which got stuck and affected its heart beat.

    What breed was it? How big was the spud?


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  130. I hadn’t realised it was so easy to make a conspiracy theory out of thin air. I only wanted to create a tarted-up reply to calli about Big Theories.

    The Harmes Fit-Up of ’79. Three seconds of thought – cui bono, ie who gains from that result? Property developers? Collingwood’s shit, certainly was at the time and was a three wood away from ponced-up East Melbourne, just hitting his straps.

    Who was the Housing Minister? Oh, Brian Dixon, the Melbourne bloke. Stroke of luck. A cheap unverifiable hypothesis attached to a single uninteresting standalone fact, and you get:

    In the latter half of 1979, a chap called Brian James Dixon was Victoria’s Housing Minister. Dixon had reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

    Less than a minute’s work. Give me (or anyone) half an hour and JFK will be next up, and sorted.


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  131. A cheap unverifiable hypothesis attached to a single uninteresting standalone fact, and you get:

    And now you too can go about your life, smug in the assurance that you know something no-one else does.


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  132. Ed Case says:
    May 16, 2022 at 8:38 pm

    Do your own research.
    Don’t tell me how you went.

    Bit testy tonight, Special.

    Constipation?
    Try drinking more water.


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  133. “And American politics makes Russia look sane and reasonable by comparison. I am pretty sure Putin could say what a woman is.”

    Careful DrBG, DaStiff might accuse you of being a Putin apologist.


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  134. It would appear John Wick’s hooked up again, has a child and is sending said child to primary school in Darwin (the NT News):

    A STUDENT at a Top End primary school has stabbed a staff member in the eye with a pencil, the NT News understands.

    The Department of Education confirmed they were aware of “a student incident at Jingili Primary School last week”. The incident occurred last Wednesday and an internal review is currently underway by the department.

    Presumably the report concluded that the staff member was part of the Russian Mafia, wasn’t quick enough and should have snapped the kid’s neck before he got within range.


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  135. Franksays:
    May 16, 2022 at 9:09 pm
    The airport in Melbourne seemed to sell coin purses made out of kangaroo testicles.

    National symbols get no respect in this country.

    More likely scrotums (scrota?) than testicles.


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  136. A STUDENT at a Top End primary school has stabbed a staff member in the eye with a f u c k i n g pencil, the NT News understands.

    Fixed.


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  137. I just want to highlight Vicki’s post below.
    Her link leads to one article and from there you can read several about the whole IVM saga. One has a link to a IVM timeline summary which is very detailed. Includes fact the Japanese inventor also suggested something going on in relation to conflicts of interest relating to Merck his original partner. Another mentions conflicts of interest.
    Some may have seen the Dr Tess Lawrie clip where she shows Zoom call with Dr Andrew Hill (Liverpool Uni) who basically trashed IVM when they were about to ask UK Health to recommend it urgently. The links below go into more detail and mentions another Dr (Owen) from Liverpool who stands to gain if IVM used in injectable form. Gates and his charity also.
    It weaves an incredible story with many links to his sources.
    This should be front page news worldwide but wont even get a mention in MSM. The articles explain the financial implications of why IVM was trashed.
    Perhaps not unrelated to fact Bill Gates gave hundreds of millions to newspapers in past few years.
    Not seen the author on any podcasts yet but would love to see Rogan have him on as heads would explode with that kind of exposure.
    Thanks Vicki as that was one of best links I have seen posted here.

    Vickisays:
    May 16, 2022 at 2:46 pm
    Don’t know if I have posted this before.

    Unitaid and Medincell are looking to develop Ivermectin in vaccine form. It seems that although patent has run out on Ivermectin in current form as animal drench and human tablet for parasites, it would resume currency for vaccine reincarnation.

    Money always triumphs. Is it the most disgusting aspect of the human species??

    https://philharper.substack.com/p/why-unitaid-keep-turning-up-for-ivermectin?utm_source=email


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  138. It was back quite a while ago
    Other places have tulip mania or other weird manias.
    Australia had a emu farm “ bubble”
    Emus were selling for hundreds of Dallas each.
    Then it cratered after someone asked “ what are you going to do with a shift on of emus”.


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  139. Watching a bit of Danger Close.

    How did any “technical adviser” have the Brig referring to the senior RAAFie as Captain, not Group Captain, and the Groupie referring to one of his pilots as Lieutenant rather than Flight Lieutenant?


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  140. Any of the bush lawyers on the Cat help out? What happens if West Australian coppers don’t prepare their brief of evidence in the ten weeks allowed by the Court?

    Wooroloo arson: Time running out for prosecutors in case against accused fire starter Daniel Gunter Preuss
    Tim Clarke
    The West Australian
    Mon, 16 May 2022 11:13AM

    Prosecutors have been warned that their time is running out to prepare the brief of evidence against the man accused of causing the Wooroloo bushfire which destroyed 86 homes and scorched more than 10,000ha.

    Daniel Gunter Preuss, 41, was back in Perth Magistrates Court on Monday, more than 15 months after the vicious blaze which tore through the rural area last February.

    The fire is regarded as one of the worst in WA history.

    It is not alleged that Mr Preuss deliberately lit the blaze.

    But he is facing allegations that failed to take reasonable precautions while using an angle grinder to remove a padlock from a sea container on his Wooroloo property on that day when a total fire ban was in place.
    The Wooroloo bushfires through 10,000ha and destroyed 86 homes in the Perth Hills.

    He has also been charged with carrying out an activity in the open air that caused or was likely to cause a fire. If convicted, he faces up to 15 years jail.

    On Monday, prosecutors told magistrate Cillian Stockdale that police were still conducting interviews as part of the case, and needed weeks more time.

    Magistrate Stockdale said he would give the prosecution ten more weeks.

    But by then the prosecution would have to be ready to send the case to the District Court, where a potential trial could be heard.

    Mr Preuss, who is on bail, will have to come to court in July.



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  141. Watching a bit of Danger Close.

    Only watched a bit of “Danger Close.”

    Dunno who the military advisor was.

    Vietnam a “civil war?” Only according to the North Vietnamese propaganda machine.

    Two section scouts, practically holding hands, walking into an open clearing, not around?

    Senior officers, shouting at each other, in the command post, in front of “Other Ranks?”


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  142. I’m coming to the view that there’s more wisdom in the tradie class than in the so called professional classes.

    The so called professional classes these days comprise mainly the obedient and conformist part of the population. They used to be selected for intelligence; now they are selected for neuroticism.


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  143. They used to be selected for intelligence; now they are selected for neuroticism.

    They are good at soaking up uncritically whatever ideas are floating around. Critical thought, not so much.


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  144. Chris Dawson ‘had no reason to kill or get rid of his wife’

    Chris Dawson’s defence has declared he is innocent of his missing wife Lynette’s murder, saying she had reason to want to dis­appear.

    His barrister, Pauline David, delivered her opening address at his murder trial on Monday, telling the court there was “not a scintilla of truth” in him approaching anyone to get rid of his wife.

    She said it was not in issue that there were problems in the marriage, with Mr Dawson forming a relationship with a teenage student, but while Mr Dawson had no reason whatsoever to be motivated to kill or get rid of his wife, there was much reason for Lynette Dawson to be motivated to rid herself of him and disappear, she said.

    “Christopher Dawson, the accused, did not kill Lynette Dawson,” Ms David said.

    Lynette Dawson’s neighbour and friend Julie Andrew on Monday became the first witness at the trial, testifying that she saw Mr Dawson “towering” over and screaming at his wife, with at least one hand on her shoulder”.

    The incident occurred near a trampoline on the Dawson family’s property at Bayview on Sydney’s northern beaches in December 1981, Ms Andrew said. Weeks later, Lyn, 33, vanished.

    Ms Andrew said she moved closer as the incident unfolded as she was “really frightened for her”. The Dawsons’ youngest daughter, Sherryn, had come into view.

    She heard Lyn say: “What’s Daddy doing to us?”

    A few hours later, Ms Andrew phoned to see whether Lyn was OK then went over to see her, the court was told.

    Lyn had already alluded to being aware of a relationship between her husband and JC, the family’s babysitter, she said.

    Mr Dawson was infatuated with JC and Lyn was worried about her moving in.

    Ms Andrew told the court she didn’t swear regularly but told Lyn: “You can’t have her move in here, he’s f..king the babysitter.”

    Mr Dawson, 73, sat with his arms crossed looking at Ms Andrew for parts of her evidence.

    Ms Andrew said JC was at the Dawsons’ swimming pool topless several times, once wearing only a G-string. Lyn’s self-­esteem had plummeted, she said. The trampoline incident was the last time she saw or spoke to Lyn.

    Ms Andrew was grilled by the defence on her interactions with The Australian’s Hedley Thomas for the podcast series The Teacher’s Pet, with snippets of their recorded conversations played in court.

    Interest in the podcast from Australian actor Hugh Jackman and other stars, and plans for a book and a TV series or movie, were discussed during the recordings.

    On the day of Mr Dawson’s arrest for Lynette’s alleged murder, Ms Andrew said in a recording they had to enjoy the moment but it was just the beginning. Winning the game would be seeing him convicted, held accountable and spending the rest of his life in prison, she said in the call.

    Ms David suggested to Ms Andrew she was in a “mutual admiration society”.

    She asked Ms Andrew if she wanted to make sure she had something pretty significant to say because of her importance to the podcast, adding that she was receiving a “significant amount of flattery”.

    Ms Andrew said she was not easily flattered, and denied repeated suggestions from the barrister that she had invented, altered or embellished her evidence.

    Lynette would not have left her children, she insisted. “She was wonderful. She was very caring. Very loving. She was an inspiration,” Ms Andrew said.

    “I do believe Chris Dawson murdered his wife. I’d be lying to you if I said otherwise.”

    The defence barrister suggested Ms Andrew had come to court “to portray Mr Dawson in the most monstrous manner you possibly can”.

    Ms Andrew replied: “I’ve come to tell the truth.”

    Her language in describing events may have changed over time but the incident in her mind had not changed, she said.

    Ms David outlined the former teacher and professional footballer’s version of events, saying he had driven his wife to a bus stop at Mona Vale to go shopping on January 9, 1982.

    Lynette was due to meet her husband, her mother, Helena Simms, and her children at the Northbridge Baths where Mr Dawson was working that day.

    At 3pm, a staff member at the baths’ kiosk notified Mr Dawson of an STD phone call.

    Mr Dawson took the call and spoke to Lynette, who said in effect she was not going to be at the pool or be returning home that day, Ms David said.

    Mr Dawson returned and spoke to Lyn’s mother and another witness, Phillip Day, who both observed he was shaken, she said.

    It was not in issue that there had been no personal contact between Lyn and her family since that time, but Mr Dawson denied she was dead.

    Subsequent phone calls to Mr Dawson and bank card transactions showed Lyn was alive after the last time she spoke to her family, Ms David said.

    The crown had opened by saying police were unable to find any evidence that Lyn survived after January 9.

    It was the very lack of police investigation that had “caused great prejudice” to Mr Dawson, his barrister said.

    Police investigations into Lyn’s disappearance were characterised by inexplicable delays, the loss of records and the failure to follow up leads that Lyn was alive, she said. Some leads were “just ignored”.

    Ms David then turned to the “so-called hit man allegation”.

    The prosecution alleges Mr Dawson approached a former Newtown Jets teammate, Robert Silkman, on a plane six years before she disappeared and asked him to help get rid of Lyn.

    Mr Dawson’s former teenage lover, JC, has separately told police that in 1981 he spoke of contemplating getting a hit man to kill Lyn.

    “It is a suggestion that is emphatically and utterly denied,” Ms David said.

    JC’s first account about Mr Dawson discussing a hit man was made in 1990 during a “bitter custody dispute” shortly after she and Mr Dawson had separated, the court was told.

    Lyn’s sister Pat Jenkins has begun giving evidence, telling the court Lyn was devoted to her children after initially struggling to fall pregnant.

    Lyn was “so affectionate to my children” and “just wanted children of her own”, Ms Jenkins said.

    She will continue giving evidence on Tuesday.

    Oz


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  145. It’s buried in the pay TV audience figures, but Piers Morgan’s arrival in Australia in a deal with Rupert Murdoch’s global TV empire via its local affiliate Sky News Australia is turning into a giant ratings turkey.

    Morgan has been parked in the difficult 9.30pm timeslot on Tuesday to Friday nights and is rating less than half the network’s daily ratings hit, Paul Murray Live.

    Murray attracts around 80,000 viewers per night nationally on Sky News, but Morgan is garnering less than half that on most nights.

    On his night off on Mondays, Morgan is even being out-rated by his fill-in, Rita Panahi, who is attracting more than 40,000 viewers.

    It didn’t help that Morgan’s first act in his new Murdoch deal was to dump a bucket on former US president Donald Trump, who is very popular on Sky News Australia’s top-rating Sunday show, Outsiders.

    I predict Murdoch will be facing a big payout in the next few weeks when Sky admits defeat and pulls the Piers Morgan show off the air.


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  146. Watching a bit of Danger Close.

    Interesting that the Cross at Long Tan, is one of two memorials to “imperialist” soldiers in Vietnam – the other is the memorial to the French paratroopers, on top of what was “Elaine 2” at Dien Bien Phu.

    Anything else was quietly bulldozed after “Reunification.”


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  147. From Gateway Pundit.

    “Bill Gates told Anderson Cooper’s audience that people over the age of 50 will probably have to get Covid boosters every 6 months until we get a better vaccine”.

    So basically if it is not effective you need to take it more often.

    Unfortunately I get the strong feeling our medical experts would be more than happy to go with that.


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  148. Mary Margaret Olohan
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    SCOTUS decisions coming today. We don’t know whether or not Roe will be one of them. Largely quiet this morning at the court except for some small groups.



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  149. Seeing him dump on Trump and his constant saying no issues with 2020 election made me have zero interest in Morgan’s show. I think a fair chunk of Sky Oz viewers might have similar thoughts.

    I don’t see how 9.30 pm is the prime slot either.

    Go Rita !

    “It didn’t help that Morgan’s first act in his new Murdoch deal was to dump a bucket on former US president Donald Trump, who is very popular on Sky News Au”.


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  150. Russians With Attitude
    @RWApodcast
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    RU MOD: “An agreement was reached with representatives of the Ukrainian military blocked at Azovstal in Mariupol to remove the wounded, a ceasefire was introduced & a humanitarian corridor was opened to transport the wounded Ukrainian soldiers to a hospital in Novoazovsk (DPR)”
    Tip
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    They are prisoners of war
    Quote Tweet
    Rakhmetov from the tropics ?? ?? ?? ??
    @AndresMajno
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    they will be arrested by DPR after medical treatment?
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    Reports coming in that not only wounded soldiers are surrendering. No visual confirmation or details yet.



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  151. DrBeauGansays:
    May 16, 2022 at 10:28 pm
    I’m coming to the view that there’s more wisdom in the tradie class than in the so called professional classes.

    The so called professional classes these days comprise mainly the obedient and conformist part of the population. They used to be selected for intelligence; now they are selected for neuroticism.

    I wonder if that is a function of the media choosing to present the professional classes to us. The issue isn’t neuroticism which has a specific meaning relating to anxiety, negativity, and depression. There are plenty of very good professional people but those aren’t presented to the general public. What I find so infuriating about modern discourse in the public realm is the narrow range of views provided by the media. The problem is modern journalists have opinions about subjects of which they are very ignorant and choose the professionals to provide them with confirmation of their opinions. The journalists I respect are the ones who specialise in specific fields but they are a minority in the profession and have little control over the discourse.


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  152. Frank:

    Emu leather sounds familiar too.

    Had a youngish fellow in the High Dependency Unit in Kalgoorlie. He was carving an emu egg and he’d done one for one of the girls, charged her $10 and a smile.
    I asked him who he was giving this one to, and he mentioned a famous bloke who was doing the rounds with his band.
    Intrigued, I asked him how mush he was charging him.
    “Fuck ‘im, that bloke rollin’ in cash. I charge the bugger full price 500 buck.”


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  153. I’m not a close follower of criquet, but it does seem that there is a difference between the sentiments being expressed about the sad departures of two prominent players.

    One set of reactions is like those after the demise of a rock star, while the other set is about the demise of someone who was held in high regard by people who actually knew him, with a dash of the rock star element.

    Takes all kinds, I guess.


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  154. Looks like Turkey has considered the implications of Finland’s and treacherous Sweden’s applications for membership in NATO after all and will veto it, for very valid reasons too.

    Still, remains to be seen what happens, there are a couple of other members with reservations.


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  155. Surprise, surprise:

    Would a first home buyer, then, be better off leaving their money in their super fund and allowing it to compound over time?

    Or would they be better off pulling it out and putting towards their first home, and then selling it at some stage later?

    The Australia Institute modelling for ABC News shows they are likely better off leaving their money in superannuation.

    Readers, if you or anyone you know is in a position to become a home owner via their super, assuming that the repayments are affordable and the property is sound – do it!

    TheirABC pays The ALP/Ponds Institute to deter people from owning their own homes – quelle surprise. They are also against owning your own car, private schools and a myriad of other sins against their Utopian vision of shared property/poverty.

    TheirABC runs stories every day demanding that the State purchase more property to redistribute via the taxes of the productive. What they never do is analyse (h/t dot) the component of property prices that is due to government regulation and taxation.


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  156. Gabor:

    Looks like Turkey has considered the implications of Finland’s and treacherous Sweden’s applications for membership in NATO after all and will veto it, for very valid reasons too.

    I’d be very interested in the rationale behind those statements, Gabor.
    Personally I’d like to see Turkey turfed out of NATO for their continued threats to let illegal refugees from the Middle East.


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  157. After Causing the US Baby Formula Crisis, FDA Head Now OK with Opening Plant FDA Shut Down Three Months Ago – in two weeks time.
    So why not let the plant open today?
    Because they want the baby food crisis to continue. It will be a month before product is available nationwide.
    This is just sheer bastardisation.


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  158. Winston Smith says:
    May 17, 2022 at 5:04 am

    I’d be very interested in the rationale behind those statements, Gabor.
    Personally I’d like to see Turkey turfed out of NATO for their continued threats to let illegal refugees from the Middle East.

    I didn’t post the link bc. it’s in a foreign lingo. Look for Kurdish influence in Sweden and Finland. Spec numbers in parliament in Sweden and the fact that Turkey regards them as a terrorist organization against Turkey and that Sweden especially has no problem with them operating there and extending their influence, wide and far.

    I don’t care if they get in or not, but I do not think it’s a good idea and conceived in a rush of adrenaline, without thinking through the implications.
    Seems to me it’s happening not only on inconsequential blogs but in seats of power as well


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  159. Both NATO and the EU are becoming more and more unmanageable because they keep trying to expand, even if it means incorporating countries which are clearly a bad fit. It’s the bureaucratic imperative writ large – grow or die.

    Turkey is an economic basket case approaching Venezuealan dimensions – runaway inflation, currency only worth washers etc. Whatever they do, be assured that it will come with a big financial bailout bill.


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  160. A nice little earner.
    Since 2000 the EU sent 852 Mil Euro to Palestine.

    Turkey is not in the EU, only in NATO and it’s highly unlikely that they are ever will be admitted.


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