Open Thread – Weekend 28 May 2022


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Boambee John
Boambee John
May 28, 2022 10:00 am

m0ntysays:
May 28, 2022 at 9:54 am
Older teachers get pay commensurate with the middle class, but young teachers – of which there are many, if. It a majority – still get paid poorly in comparison. Not sure what it’s like with full time nurses but many nurses are casual or part time and this don’t earn enough to be truly middle class.

The fact that credentialism has crept into teaching and nursing does not necessarily mean that they can be thought of as highly paid.

Backward double somersault with pike while peddling a bike backwards at 100 kph. Cést magnifique!

shatterzzz
May 28, 2022 10:02 am

Yeh, the Tradie pays for the Houso to sit on his arse and whinge about why he needs more money for smokes and bourbon.

Thank you umpire & ball boys! .. I neither smoke nor drink bourbon & at $112 a week rent this OAP “houso” doesn’t whinge about needing more money, either cos I very rarely spend all of what I get anyway .. LOL!

Top Ender
Top Ender
May 28, 2022 10:03 am

Ok, what is a “cultural stick”? From a series on the violence in Aboriginal communities in the Oz:

The Warlpiri man also threatened to hit the girls if they didn’t reveal where his daughter was.

He forced them into his car and drove erratically to their friend’s home where he punched Ruby in the face twice before pulling her into his car.

With SB and SW in the back seat, he took the three crying girls back to the house, punching his daughter’s head as he drove.

He then ordered Ruby inside but not before punching her back, striking her legs with a piece of iron, pushing her to the ground and smashing her phone.

Once inside, Dean took his daughter to the middle bedroom where he kept punching her before striking her back and ankles with a cultural stick.

Dot
Dot
May 28, 2022 10:05 am

Really monty

117k p.a. for an “unskilled” wukka class job eh? In NSW this isn’t enough, public or private and they want a 10% increase.

No management responsibilities outside the classroom. More holidays than most other workers.

These poor teachers are the same as those on the minimum wage or working casually for cash?

This is so dumb it is hilarious.

Roger
Roger
May 28, 2022 10:07 am

Ok, what is a “cultural stick”?

For anglos it’d be a cricket bat.

shatterzzz
May 28, 2022 10:09 am

Quote from Donald Trump regarding the shooting.

“The existence of evil in our world is not a reason to DISARM law-abiding citizens — the existence of evil is one of the very best reasons to ARM law-abiding citizens,”

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 28, 2022 10:09 am

From a series on the violence in Aboriginal communities in the Oz:

Recognition in the Constitution, a voice in Parliament and a “Treaty” ……….

m0nty
m0nty
May 28, 2022 10:09 am

My point is that under the old system, the median Liberal voter was a male office worker wearing a suit. Under the new regime, if you lot have your way, the median Liberal voter will be a part-time female nurse or teacher. What policies are the Libs going to change to appeal to this new voter, which is supposed to be the core of their new base? I don’t see much in the way of flexibility from you lot, it’s all classical liberal economics with a side order of climate change denialism. That mix is not appealing to Nurse Maddy or Miss Narayanan.

Top Ender
Top Ender
May 28, 2022 10:10 am

Ed Case says: That’s why America brought all the Nazi scientists to the United States. Ever heard of Werner von Braun, Sancho?

Actually Werner chose the USA. I have his biography. He and another 100 rocket scientists chose America to surrender to because they thought that country would push rocketry the most.

Roger
Roger
May 28, 2022 10:10 am

What policies are the Libs going to change to appeal to this new voter, which is supposed to be the core of their new base?

How about reliable and affordable electrickery?

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 28, 2022 10:11 am

“mUnty? There’s a Numbers Bob on the phone asking to speak to you.”

Dot
Dot
May 28, 2022 10:11 am

*I don’t see any flexibility at all other than to leave tens of millions of people alone and let them make their own choices…*

This is so dense it is a black hole of stupidity.

Struth
May 28, 2022 10:12 am

In an interview with a German newspaper published on the eve of this year’s Davos meeting, globalist nabob Klaus Schwab has conceded WEF memberships are down and the world is trending towards becoming multipolar rather than the globalist utopia/dystopia he’s spent 50 years promoting.

Someone break it gently to Struth.

You don’t have to tell me.

For the first time this year, the smug arrogance of Klaus Schwab has been replaced with a facade that is able to be seen through.
Look at his recent videos during this Meeting in Davos.
His welcome speech for instance.
Looking more like Hitler every day.
Banging his arms around and a hint of desperation in the voice.

The problem being for the meglomaniacs at Davos, is for the very first time some virtue signalling billionaire members are taking a hit, and the work of the on line independent journalists are getting their names out there, there is for the first time push back , some coming from within their own ranks.
We haven’t lost yet.
Don’t you think the dumbest person on earth right now would be a bloke subservient to global communism fighting to become PM of Australia?
To a politically Naive nation, he’ll be the bad guy.
It’s a poison challice.
Lefties aren’t smart.
They destroy everything because they believe that they are, and assume all are as thick as them.
Look at Monty.
Look at Klaus using the term “stakeholder capitalism” because he’s that dense that he thinks the world won’t interpret what he really means by that.

But he and the rest of them get angry next……..they only ever double down, they never admit to being wrong and they will never look at themselves. It will be our fault he had to kill us.
Classic leftism.

m0nty
m0nty
May 28, 2022 10:13 am

No management responsibilities outside the classroom. More holidays than most other workers.

Now now Dot, don’t poke the bear. Teachers do a lot of unpaid work, including marking and after-school activities. They earn their keep.

These poor teachers are the same as those on the minimum wage or working casually for cash?

Young teachers and those who are casual or part-time often don’t earn enough to be middle-class. Is it any wonder that there is a teacher shortage?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 28, 2022 10:13 am

Ex-Pies player Craig Kelly takes an unpopular stance, that of personal responsibility (the Hun):

Powerful player agent Craig Kelly has hit-out at Nick Riewoldt over his drug claims and said the current playing cohort needed to take more personal responsibility for any substance issues.

The drugs debate has flared after it was revealed former Saint Sam Fisher had been arrested and was facing the prospect of jail time over drug trafficking charges.

While Riewoldt said more had to be done for players transitioning out of AFL ranks, Kelly said players also had to take more ownership of their own substance issues given the amount of resources dedicated to the problem.

Nick Riewoldt would be the bloke who had nekkid, posed pictures taken of him by a 17 year old groupie, and who then scattered copies of them all over Flinders Street Station when he got bored with her.

Kelly, who is one of the most influential voices in the football industry as the boss of management giant TLA, said footballers at the top level had much more welfare support than others in the community.

“The players have got to realise they have got to get off their backside and they have got to actually look after themselves. “If they have got problems, the support is there.

“Stop blaming everyone else and let’s get them making sure they actually (take responsibility) and do something for themselves as well as the people around them.”

Geez. Not very hand-pattish.

Riewoldt was adamant players were slipping through the cracks but Kelly said the former Saint had over-stated the problem considering recent improvements in player welfare.

“He is out of line saying there are a lot more players out there (with serious drug problems). There is a lot less than when he was playing,” Kelly said.

“There was a generation and a group … and we were getting better and I would suggest that was probably the period when Nick was there and Sam and plenty others (who had problems), we know that,” he said.

If anyone ‘slipped through the cracks’ it was Riewoldt, who is (and has been for years) a multi-millionaire pub investor turned media faceache.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 28, 2022 10:14 am

In today’s cultural stereotypes mUnty takes us back to …

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 28, 2022 10:14 am

Until May 28, 2022 at 8:57 am, the term “working class” was used to describe people employed as labour in unskilled/semi-skilled work.

Wrong.
Working Class refers to people who’ve gotta go to work for a Wage or Salary to earn a living.
Middle Class used to refer to Medical Practitioners, Solicitors, Bank Managers, and, at a pinch, Dentists.
The Upper Classes were people who lived on the proceeds on Inherited Wealth.
The Middle Class has been hollowed out by Medicare turning Doctors into Mendicants, Family Law and Legal Aid doing the same to Solicitors and massive downsizing of Bank employees.
Dentists are all that’s left.
Some Sparky earning $10 grand a week working in a remote location thinks he’s Middle Class?
He’s dreamin’.
Some Tradie small businessman raking in the buck$$ thinks he’s Middle Class?
Lower Middle Class at best, more likely Upper Working Class.

Zipster
Zipster
May 28, 2022 10:15 am
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 28, 2022 10:18 am

More from those articles in the Weekend Oz. WTF is “Intergenerational trauma?”

In March, Constable Rolfe was found not guilty of murdering Walker at the remote outback community during that arrest in November 2019.

But the tragic case thrust the troubled town – and its social issues – into the light. Before his death at the age of 19, Walker was the living embodiment of the deep, intergenerational trauma and abuse that is the flip side of Australia’s egalitarian prosperity.

In remote towns like Yuendumu, the greatest tragedy of Walker’s story was how common it is: a baby born in circumstances of substance use and family instability, who himself developed addictions, destructive behaviours and a lengthy criminal history.

In death, Walker was eulogised as a happy person who loved animals and his family.

The revelations that relatives were fed up with his offending and that he had been inflicting horrific acts of violence on his girlfriend prompted some critics to suggest these parts of his story should not have been told.

Dot
Dot
May 28, 2022 10:18 am

Now now Dot, don’t poke the bear. Teachers do a lot of unpaid work, including marking and after-school activities

No, they are expected to mark the work. That is part of their salary and hours. They don’t have to do out of hours school activities at all.

Young teachers and those who are casual or part-time often don’t earn enough to be middle-class. Is it any wonder that there is a teacher shortage?

There is a teacher shortage of males and people with science degrees.

Graduate teachers get paid nearly $80k and have no work if they aren’t prepared to travel (which helps them get to choose where they get a permanent job for life anyway).

Quit your bullshit monty.

You don’t even know what point you are trying to make anymore.

m0nty
m0nty
May 28, 2022 10:20 am

The other thing about lauding aspirational tradies and FIFO miners as the new Liberal base is that they probably already vote Liberal. Appealing more to them isn’t going to help win seats in the Reps, the Libs can count on their votes and they still got their bums kicked last week. They must increase their vote among women and service workers. To do that, they will have to change in ways that you lot will not like.

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 28, 2022 10:20 am

Actually Werner chose the USA. I have his biography. He and another 100 rocket scientists chose America to surrender to because they thought that country would push rocketry the most.

He was a Nazi, so he was always going to say that.
The British also got their hands on all [?] the medical research
done unethically by the Nazis, the U.S. got all the Japanese stuff.
Ever heard of Unit 731?

Tom
Tom
May 28, 2022 10:21 am

Laughed out loud at today’s pronouncement from The Oz’s perennnial fossil Paul Kelly, who has been retailing grand cliches since his first love Gough Whitlam:

Dawning of the great national realignment
Anthony Albanese signals a new style of government that may fit the time.

Give us a spell, sport: the duopoly has just changed colours after last year’s model got tired and pissed off the Australian middle class with stunts like Net Zero, which the chattering classes have attached themselves to as this year’s fashion for parasites.

And with the lowest primary vote in history the Liars will now try to remodel Australia in Karl Marx’s image under an old Trokskyist who can’t believe his luck that Filth preferences have once again delivered power to the trade union party with a parliamentary majority of one.

It isn’t a “great national realignment” for those who’ve been paying attention; it’s what happens when the notionally pro-free market party becomes so like the trade union party socialists that the electorate has finally asked itself: why not vote for the real thing?

With the help of Malcolm Turnbull whose anointed successor finally achieved his dream of destroying the Liberal Party.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 28, 2022 10:22 am

No 2 in a series.

Groogs is right. Your ute might be worth $80,000 but if you get in a ute to drive to work you’re working class.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
May 28, 2022 10:28 am

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has signalled additional cost of living relief as the global energy crisis hits Australia, with some households in NSW warned that their power bills will rise by as much as 95 per cent.

Well it wont matter.

After all we are enjoying the “electricity too cheap to meter” so a doubling will still amount to SFA wont it?

Its weird, everywhere thats trying to decouple from reliable, large scale base load power is doing shit.
A veritable turducken of mystery.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 28, 2022 10:30 am

Tom – snoozer Kelly’s effort was particularly laughable this weekend. Bit of it on the ALPBC this week in the wake of “their” victory.

Struth
May 28, 2022 10:32 am

National SOCIALIST workers party Ed.
NAZIS.

Left wing through and through.
Once you see that fucking bleeding obvious there you can make the whole world out so much easier and you won’t be making such a goose of yourself.
You’ll find yourself saying things like, oh it’s not just the new left that hate the Jews when it used to be right wingers….you’ll know it’s always been the left.

You’ll understand why racism from the “you lot” collectivist left has always come from collectivists and not individualists.
You cannot be a racist without being a collectivist.
Stop your confusion and work it out .
The one great lie chanted by the left until covid was that Hitler was right wing.
They had to push that line….
It’s confused you.

Struth
May 28, 2022 10:33 am

A global electricity crisis.
Where were we involved in getting our electrickery from overseas?

Top Ender
Top Ender
May 28, 2022 10:35 am

Ever heard of Unit 731?

Yes Ed, I discussed it a little bit in my book Atomic Salvation.

If you’d like to point me to where you have written about it we can have a discussion.

Von Braun, if you read up on him, was obsessed by rocket science. He rightly estimated the Americans would be more into military grade missiles than anyone else – and that might lead to a moon shot.

Dot
Dot
May 28, 2022 10:37 am

The ALP has slightly less than 31% of the NSW Senate vote right now.

Informal may be 7%, turnout maybe at best, 90%. Not even counting non-enrolments.

Even with compulsory voting, only about 1/4 (and possibly less) of the people voted for them.

The idea that a nominally right wing party needs to be more like the ALP is simply absurd.

Oh come on
Oh come on
May 28, 2022 10:40 am

“They see the effects of climate on the coast.”

They think they do. It’s called confirmation bias.

Dot
Dot
May 28, 2022 10:42 am

They must increase their vote among women and service workers. To do that, they will have to change in ways that you lot will not like.

No.

If they weren’t wet squibs they would have most of the UAP, PHON and LDP votes plus many of the informal, non enrolments and those who chose not to vote this time.

Struth
May 28, 2022 10:43 am
local oaf
May 28, 2022 10:44 am

Yeah the Nazi’s were lefties indeed. That’s why so many prominent people around the western world were hugely embarrassed after the war by their admiration of and praise for Hitler in the 30s.

There was a lot of sympathy for the defeated Germans and the state of their country after WW1 and admiration for the brave socialist Mr Hitler who was doing such good things for the poor German people.
Providing them with new cars and holiday on cruise ships, etc.

m0nty
m0nty
May 28, 2022 10:48 am

The idea that a nominally right wing party needs to be more like the ALP is simply absurd.

Sure, fine. Keep losing. Abandon the Liberal Party and watch it fade into irrelevance. Good.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
May 28, 2022 10:53 am

shatterzzzsays:
May 28, 2022 at 10:02 am
Yeh, the Tradie pays for the Houso to sit on his arse and whinge about why he needs more money for smokes and bourbon.

Thank you umpire & ball boys! .. I neither smoke nor drink bourbon & at $112 a week rent this OAP “houso” doesn’t whinge about needing more money, either cos I very rarely spend all of what I get anyway .. LOL!

Yes exactly, you don’t whinge.

cohenite
May 28, 2022 10:53 am

How are you feeling montifa; any symptoms.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
May 28, 2022 10:54 am

Monty has claimed the premiership for Labor and utter defeat for the LNP but we’ve yet to see the new team on the park.
Biden’s Butt Pluggers did the same victory lap yet before half time they’re gone.

m0nty
m0nty
May 28, 2022 10:55 am

The base is not some abstract category of worker, it is whoever is struggling to afford buying a house, keep their family in modest comfort, maintain custody and care of their children against a state that is increasingly prepared to medically interfer with their children outside of their knowledge, and so on.

Uh, that is not the Liberal Party base. Historically, the Liberal Party base is a lapsed Protestant called Matt with two mortgages, two cars, two kids, two tennis rackets mouldering in the shed and too much time to think about how unfair everyone is to him.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
May 28, 2022 10:56 am

If they weren’t wet squibs they would have most of the UAP, PHON and LDP votes plus many of the informal, non enrolments and those who chose not to vote this time.

These parties wouldn’t exist if the SFL hadn’t followed the Liars and greens.

Indolent
Indolent
May 28, 2022 10:56 am
Dot
Dot
May 28, 2022 10:56 am

monty

On current turnout and valid votes, excluding non enrolments and even with compulsory voting, less than 20% of NSW electors actually voted for the ALP in the Senate.

“Keep losing”

Not my dog in this fight, but I believe the conservatives have held office with more regularity than the ALPs.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
May 28, 2022 10:57 am

What policies are the Libs going to change to appeal to this new voter, which is supposed to be the core of their new base? I don’t see much in the way of flexibility from you lot, it’s all classical liberal economics with a side order of climate change denialism. That mix is not appealing to Nurse Maddy or Miss Narayanan.

Actually this is a serious problem for the Liberals.

Like it or not, ‘climate change’ (and everything that goes with it) is a now the front and centre, mainstream political issue in Australia.

‘The Science’ says Australian politicians can’t actually do anything to materially change the trajectory of the climate – however they do need to manage the country’s response to obtain the best outcome for Australians.

At the moment the fashionable political response is to shut down reliable electricity generation and stop using fossil fuels toot sweet. Apparently it’s what enough Australians want to vote in a government committed to doing just that. It would be political stupidity to ignore that.

However the social and economic cost is still a little way down the track (although bits of the future reality are starting to pop up in power bills).

Being pragmatic the Liberal party has a choice of:

1. following the ALP/Green/Teal path of Net Zero Without Delay Whatever The Cost – and competing on who can destroy the social economy least painfully; or

2. developing an alternative – perhaps HELE coal, perhaps based around nuclear energy – and waiting for the reality bite to kick into the electorate.

Can’t really run both strategies under the one roof.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 28, 2022 10:58 am

Laughable. The Liars scrape into government after a decade and the electorate forgets how bad they were and mUnty is proclaiming the death of the Lieboral Party. Clown.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 28, 2022 11:01 am

Faustus- one decent hot summer of brown outs and you won’t be hearing much about climate change.

Makka
Makka
May 28, 2022 11:02 am

Like it or not, ‘climate change’ (and everything that goes with it) is a now the front and centre, mainstream political issue in Australia.

Until inflation really gets going and house price declines reach a serious down trajectory.

Most Australians will put pocket before the virtuous. And that is where Dutton needs to hammer in good and hard.

MatrixTransform
May 28, 2022 11:02 am

mUnty continues with fallacious constructions

before he can apply his idiot projections, first he has to sift people into categories

gibbering as usual

speaking of classification … the fool has a class of his own

Dot
Dot
May 28, 2022 11:03 am

N U C L E A R

P O W E R

Surely you’ve all seen this quick five minute video before? 🙂

The liquid fluoride thorium reactor.

Safe.
Effective.
Cheap.

https://youtu.be/uK367T7h6ZY

cohenite
May 28, 2022 11:03 am

No nose bleeds, sore throats, rectal itches, shrunken testes?

m0nty
m0nty
May 28, 2022 11:07 am

This sounds like you, yet you’ve voted Labor all your life.

Just goes to show that stereotypes don’t always apply.

On current turnout and valid votes, excluding non enrolments and even with compulsory voting, less than 20% of NSW electors actually voted for the ALP in the Senate.

Don’t get hung up on primary votes in a preferential system, Dot. Tactical voting is a real thing, especially now with legitimate three- and four-cornered contests. Voters aren’t stupid, they understand what they are doing.

Pulling a Principal Skinner and concluding “no, it’s the voters who are wrong” is a recipe for perpetual electoral failure. You can proclaim that you are in the right and you will wait it out without changing anything until reality changes to suit your strong priors, but that’s probably not a good idea if you are in a major party that wants to keep being a major party.

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 28, 2022 11:08 am

Went to the Swans game last night.
A lot of fun.
Apart from one of the guests in the box filming TikToks so had to ensure I was out of the shot.
Why would you go to the footy & film TikToks.

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 28, 2022 11:10 am

That stink over the penalty at the death happened in front of me.
I have no idea what that was all about.
I suppose AFL fans going to league matches would have a similar experience.

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 28, 2022 11:10 am

Bit of a headache this morning.
The half a dozen Furphies I drank would have nothing to do with that.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 28, 2022 11:12 am

Outdoor pursuits. 29 degrees, 43% humidity. Dry as the proverbial, comparatively.

Makka
Makka
May 28, 2022 11:17 am

From his basement domain, mOron lecturing all on the inner circle of Australian politics, how it all works. This from a fat airhead who lives in front of monitors and ventures out blinking once a fortnight to carry shopping bags for the spouse. This clown has never met a working class person because the fkwit never has been one of the working class. A fat bludger , like so many leftards , regurgitating leftard daily talking points.

The good news is the palpable hatred of Dutton confirms leftard fear that now the Libs have a leader that will fight back. The same loathing of Abbott when he set about demolishing the left.

Eyrie
Eyrie
May 28, 2022 11:18 am

Von Braun, if you read up on him, was obsessed by rocket science. He rightly estimated the Americans would be more into military grade missiles than anyone else – and that might lead to a moon shot.

More like, it’s all over boys who do we surrender to? A bunch of Americans many of whom have German surnames and a country with a significant German cultural background in many areas or a bunch of rabid Communist Russians with blood in their eye? Really hard decision.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 28, 2022 11:20 am

m0ntysays:

May 28, 2022 at 9:54 am

Older teachers get pay commensurate with the middle class, but young teachers – of which there are many, if. It a majority – still get paid poorly in comparison.

I agree.
Teaching is a job where unions ensure that mediocre time-servers are rewarded ahead of talent.

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 28, 2022 11:20 am

Australian politics is similar to airline patronage.
Every day a Qantas customer dies.
Every day a customer who wants the best fare for them is born.

Every day a rusted on Liberal or Labor voter dies.
Every day a voter who wants “other” is born.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
May 28, 2022 11:23 am

Pulling a Principal Skinner and concluding “no, it’s the voters who are wrong” is a recipe for perpetual electoral failure.

Yet one of the better electoral results for the Libs was Abbott against the Gerbil wormers.
Another of those turducken like mysteries.

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 28, 2022 11:23 am

Top Endersays:
May 28, 2022 at 10:03 am
Ok, what is a “cultural stick”?

The kinder, gentler, politically correct name for a waddy.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 28, 2022 11:24 am

Ok, what is a “cultural stick”?

A boomerang that doesn’t come back.

cohenite
May 28, 2022 11:26 am

Fever, abnormal growths, peculiar views or perspective, hemorrhoids?

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 28, 2022 11:26 am

m0ntysays:
May 28, 2022 at 10:09 am
My point is that under the old system, the median Liberal voter was a male office worker wearing a suit. Under the new regime, if you lot have your way, the median Liberal voter will be a part-time female nurse or teacher. What policies are the Libs going to change to appeal to this new voter, which is supposed to be the core of their new base?

Your political fantasies might not have much connection with reality. Discussion here has focused on tradies, FIFOs, and the actual workers who have been abandoned by the Liars.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
May 28, 2022 11:27 am

Am visiting me ma in NE Victoria. She has ABC , SBS running 24/7. I was in time to watch SBS celebrate the Sri Lankan illegals win over Labor. The glowing endorsement love in, coverage of the Ministers phone call etc. No matter what Scomo did he would never get coverage like that from da Subsidy Bloody Subsidy channel…Eva!
At first chance I politely requested a channel change.

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 28, 2022 11:27 am

Why isn’t more being made of the Greens victories?
And their primary vote.
Do the maths on their AEC funding.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 28, 2022 11:28 am

The kinder, gentler, politically correct name for a waddy.

Pay that one!

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 28, 2022 11:29 am

Young teachers and those who are casual or part-time often don’t earn enough to be middle-class. Is it any wonder that there is a teacher shortage?

munty

Are you claiming that the various state governments (most of them Labor) are exploiting their workers by employing them on a casual or part-time basis? Disgraceful!

PS, don’t you employ casuals? Exploiter of the workers! Kulak!

m0nty
m0nty
May 28, 2022 11:30 am

Yet one of the better electoral results for the Libs was Abbott against the Gerbil wormers.
Another of those turducken like mysteries.

Well shoot, you should appoint Abbott as your new leader and go harder. That will work, because things never change.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 28, 2022 11:32 am

Riewoldt was adamant players were slipping through the cracks but Kelly said the former Saint had over-stated the problem considering recent improvements in player welfare.

They don’t “slip through the cracks”.
They seek out the cracks and crawl through them. Time after time family and friends drag them out of the cracks and set them up for a normal life. But as soon as their backs are turned these losers are bolting back to the cracks and squeezing back through- crack pipe in hand.

cohenite
May 28, 2022 11:33 am

Am visiting me ma in NE Victoria. She has ABC , SBS running 24/7. I was in time to watch SBS celebrate the Sri Lankan illegals win over Labor. The glowing endorsement love in, coverage of the Ministers phone call etc. No matter what Scomo did he would never get coverage like that from da Subsidy Bloody Subsidy channel…Eva!
At first chance I politely requested a channel change.

Exactly. I visited some ex friends sometime ago who had the same thing: wall to wall abc; Trump was bad, insurrection, global warming, end of world. alphabet people, aboriginals, treaty. They were literally insane.

The first thing Lurch Dutton has to do if he ever becomes PM is to close that fucking cesspool of lefties down. It’s worth about 5% to the left because it infects and influences weak minded fucktards.

cohenite
May 28, 2022 11:34 am

Do you get chest pains montifa; assuming you have a chest; pattern balding; do you piss blood when sit and take a piss.

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 28, 2022 11:34 am

Jeremy Clarkson has his own beer.
How good is his life?
Punching that BBC chappy was the most financially beneficial act he ever committed.

Frank
Frank
May 28, 2022 11:36 am

Dot says:
May 28, 2022 at 9:20 am
By definition there are no left wing economists.

Peter Whish-Wilson, I thought he was a big fan of Marx.

rosie
rosie
May 28, 2022 11:36 am

Stop the nonsense Monty, credentialism is a progressive boondoggle, in nursing it started in the 80s, in teaching other than primary school cadetships which must have been done away with in the late 50s, teachers needed credentials. All my family of too many secondary teachers went to university, most, the university of Melbourne to do arts degrees with dip Ed, starting in the mid 1970s.
The fact that some nurses choose to work time, presumably because they have working husbands, is neither here nor there.
By the way starting off with comparatively low pay is true for all graduates, not just teachers.

Struth
May 28, 2022 11:37 am

Like it or not, ‘climate change’ (and everything that goes with it) is a now the front and centre, mainstream political issue in Australia.

Not with the general public, just with the chattering political class….the only ones who now have a voice that’s heard, but it’s not even believed by most Australians.

In communist countries like Australia, the silent majority have become the silenced majority.

The problem with Australia is that we had a silent majority when they should, and could have, been anything but.

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 28, 2022 11:40 am

Baris has been in the field polling.
Biggest supporters of third trimester abortion ?
White, college educated males.

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 28, 2022 11:40 am

Ed Casesays:
May 28, 2022 at 10:14 am
Until May 28, 2022 at 8:57 am, the term “working class” was used to describe people employed as labour in unskilled/semi-skilled work.

Wrong.
Working Class refers to people who’ve gotta go to work for a Wage or Salary to earn a living.
Middle Class used to refer to Medical Practitioners, Solicitors, Bank Managers, and, at a pinch, Dentists.
The Upper Classes were people who lived on the proceeds on Inherited Wealth.

You forgot to mention the serfs, since you seem to be looking back to feudalism.

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 28, 2022 11:41 am

local oafsays:
May 28, 2022 at 10:44 am
Yeah the Nazi’s were lefties indeed. That’s why so many prominent people around the western world were hugely embarrassed after the war by their admiration of and praise for Hitler in the 30s.

FDR was an admirer of both H1tler and Mussolini.

Frank
Frank
May 28, 2022 11:42 am

The first thing Lurch Dutton has to do…

More a Nosferatu or at a stretch Riff Riff from Rocky Horror.

Oh come on
Oh come on
May 28, 2022 11:44 am

m0nty, it’s pretty clear you don’t actually know these working people you claim to speak for. Your insistence that a political party must make a discrete appeal to attract the votes of working women is evidence of this. Here’s what you just don’t get: if a political party makes a sincere pitch to the working people of Australia – Labor’s traditional voting base – and it successfully resonates with “butch tradies holding sprocket wrenches, and FIFO mine workers with a shovel over the shoulder”, it will resonate with both men AND women from this demographic. You’re applying your BA-informed, chattering class intersectional rubric on people that have no truck with it.

Now, it is certainly true that when appealing to you lot – the institutional/managerial class that fills out the bulk of the bureaucracies and the lower/middle management white collar sector of the nation; reasonably well-educated, financially stable, obedient midwits; Outer Party types – it’s absolutely necessary to give women a special shout out and tell them how disadvantaged they are relative to men, what will be done to advance their cause and address all of their boutique issues and so forth. You Outer Party voters need to hear this from your political candidates so that voting for them makes you feel like you’re doing something good and virtuous (because you lot absolutely love and crave this feeling). So I understand why you think those outside of your social class would be similarly attracted to what attracts you.

However, you don’t know these people – the battlers, the working/aspirational classes, blue collar workers; we all know the demographic I’m referring to – because you have very little to do with them. Sure, they fix your car and your house, they work at your local supermarket, they take your call when you book an appointment with your GP and so forth. But that’s about it. And, truth be told, you don’t really like them. In any event, they mostly live a LONG way away from you in all sorts of ghastly places. But if you did know people like this, you would realise how silly your comment that I quoted above is.

Gotta say I love it, though – it is such a perfect demonstration of the insular, provincial mindset characteristic of you and your kind (even though you pride yourself on being the opposite).

Struth
May 28, 2022 11:45 am

A pro nation, true conservative politician would romp it in so much in Australia that even with the level of voter fraud and disappearing freedom votes we seem to have just witnessed, and apparently have been video’d being taken, they’d still have to close down voting and truck in the left wing votes, fuck with the voting machines , and he’d still be in with a chance.

Your party of Hitler, Stalin and Mao against a Reagan or a Trump would be blown off the face of the earth in a fair election Monty.
You are indeed, and all your ilk, human excrement, and as you are exposed, as you show your true selves, despised universally amongst men.

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 28, 2022 11:46 am

Uh, that is not the Liberal Party base. Historically, the Liberal Party base is a lapsed Protestant called Matt with two mortgages, two cars, two kids, two tennis rackets mouldering in the shed and too much time to think about how unfair everyone is to him.

munty displays his many prejudices. He is a walking, talking, hate crime in waiting. He doesn’t just want to punch a Nazi, he wants to punch everyone who even remotely matches this paragraph.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 28, 2022 11:47 am

If you go into teaching and don’t like waiting for your turn you haven’t been paying attention.

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 28, 2022 11:47 am

m0ntysays:
May 28, 2022 at 11:07 am
This sounds like you, yet you’ve voted Labor all your life.

Just goes to show that stereotypes don’t always apply.

Does that include stereotypes like “you lot”? Enquiring minds (something you lack).

Struth
May 28, 2022 11:56 am

And I offer you first swing at punching a Nazi Monty.

And what you’ll get back will be from somebody who wants freedom, small government that is accountable to the people, democracy, all people equal under the rule of law….you know a Nazi.

You are a twisted, evil, dumb fuck, because those things do not make a Nazi.
You are dishonest without a care.
You are, and your politics are what you claim to despise.
The real Fascist Nazi, totalitarian scum of the world.

Nazis like you that get too smug and uppity always end up kneeling to their betters.
Your time is coming.
Not all, unlike some here, believe you should go unpunished.
Your own side will punish you first, the useful idiots as they call you, that’s the reality of it.
Your not the elite Monty.
One way or the other, you’ll be going down hard.
And all your own fault.

Cassie of Sydney
May 28, 2022 11:59 am

“2. developing an alternative – perhaps HELE coal, perhaps based around nuclear energy – and waiting for the reality bite to kick into the electorate.”

Yes, nuclear, this is what the Liberals must do. Rising power prices are going to bite Australians, even those in Teal electorates, big time.

The Liberals must go to the next election with nuclear.

No ifs, no buts…….NUCLEAR.

areff
areff
May 28, 2022 12:03 pm

The first thing Lurch Dutton has to do if he ever becomes PM is to close that fucking cesspool [ABC] of lefties down. It’s worth about 5% to the left because it infects and influences weak minded

Re the ABC: I get a daily newsletter reporting moves and jobs in Oz media. One of yesterday’s ‘media blotter’ briefs was the appointment of a reporterette as ABC deputy chief of staff in Melbourne. Curious, I checked out her CV, as the deputy COS is a relative important position in any newsroom, filling in for the boss and having a direct influence on what gets covered, by whom and how it gets covered Eg:press release arrives from Carbon Council saying hopping, rather than walking, will conserve shoe leather, reduce bovine flatulence and the carbon output of tanneries. The choices are:

(a) file in rubbish bin;
(b) rewrite press release
(c) summon Scrotumface out of lavishly remunerated semi-retirement, deploy camera crew, call celebrity epidemiologist suffering relevance deprivation as COVID fades and whip up a segment on the health and environmental advantages of a monopedalism.

Turns out the newly promoted young lady is Sudanese (diversity tick), graduated in 2020 (!!!!!) from LaTrobe and produced a body of online student writing testifying that she views the world only through her left eye.

Reporters are always going to be left-canted. That’s why they need editors who, you know, actually edit. The ABC doesn’t have any of those — and if it did they wouldn’t last very long.

WolfmanOz
May 28, 2022 12:05 pm

I’m amazed at the amount of posters who respond to monty.

Whenever I see a post by him/her (or whatever) i just scroll past it and total ignore it – likewise with those who respond.

Why give oxygen.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
May 28, 2022 12:11 pm

Like it or not, ‘climate change’ (and everything that goes with it) is a now the front and centre, mainstream political issue in Australia.

Not with the general public, just with the chattering political class….the only ones who now have a voice that’s heard, but it’s not even believed by most Australians.

Maybe not believed; certainly not understood. But the simple fact is that competing climate change policies have elected an Australian government that will shove the rough end of a pineapple up the productive economy.

Democracy: good and hard.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 28, 2022 12:14 pm

H B Bearsays:

May 28, 2022 at 10:58 am

Laughable. The Liars scrape into government after a decade and the electorate forgets how bad they were and mUnty is proclaiming the death of the Lieboral Party. Clown.

Wut?
You can’t kill it twice.
Bawwie Cassidy and Faino* pronounced it deceased in 2007.
Within three years they came within a whisker of winning government, and would have if not for faux conservatives Oakeshott and Windsor. Then smashed RGR three years after that.
….
* In an epic Olympic standard display of lack of self-awareness, it was around the time of Obumbi’s ascension and/or Howard’s defeat that Faino and Bawwie declared that the era of the influence of old white men on society was over.

bespoke
bespoke
May 28, 2022 12:16 pm

rosiesays:
May 28, 2022 at 8:15 am
=====
Ms Liu said she understood the negative sentiments of the community when they heard their country of origin that they still felt affection for being constantly targeted by the Australian government

Leave your baggage behind or go back.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
May 28, 2022 12:18 pm

Like it or not, ‘climate change’ (and everything that goes with it) is a now the front and centre, mainstream political issue in Australia.

Dr F, on election night one of the channels showed some opinion polling which said less than 10% of those surveyed put climate change as their major concern. Over 35% nominated cost of living pressures, and there were a couple of others (which I can’t remember) which rated higher than climate. If that’s correct it would suggest that the ScoMo goat rodeo got punted more because of electricity bills than electricity generation methods.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 28, 2022 12:21 pm

There is a teacher shortage of males and people with science degrees.

No man with half a brain would go near teaching.
Forty years down the track and some grifter looking for an earn has a “recovered memory” that you touched them up at the back of the First Nations History class.
No thanks.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 28, 2022 12:22 pm

“a lapsed Protestant”

Tautology alert.
If you are a Protestant you are, by definition, already lapsed.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 28, 2022 12:28 pm

feelthebernsays:

May 28, 2022 at 11:08 am

Went to the Swans game last night.
A lot of fun

Including the didgeridoo after every goal and what sounded like blak-rappa shit at 140 decibels at half-time?

m0nty
m0nty
May 28, 2022 12:32 pm

OCO, that post of yours is hilarious. You think all women need is a token “shout out”, no policies which benefit them, and you can continue on with your von Mises wishlist of classical liberal policies for a cruise to victory.

If the Libs follow your advice, they will join the DLP and UKIP on the scrapheap of history.

m0nty
m0nty
May 28, 2022 12:33 pm

Your not the elite Monty.

Glad to hear, St Ruth. Or should that be “here”?

Makka
Makka
May 28, 2022 12:35 pm

If that’s correct it would suggest that the ScoMo goat rodeo got punted more because of electricity bills than electricity generation methods.

There were many reasons for Scummo getting booted but I suspect it boils down to a) he is weak, a windsock with no spine b) he comes across as a smug looking prick c) Hawaii d) the clown show National Cabinet made him look like a village idiot e) gutless- so many issues now are state owned clusterfks and he hasn’t the balls to go hard on them.

Wrapped up – Scummo was widely loathed and punters wanted to punish him. No conviction, no spine and no clue.

IF the Libs can win back the disaffected base which started walking away in droves while Turdball was still at the helm, the Libs can take Govt. But it will mean a real and unshakable return to policies that benefit families over virtue signalling. COL, housing affordability, lower taxes AND SPENDING, utility costs, keeping the freaks out of our schools and kids education, get Green out of our lives and pockets. Do that and the Libs have Govt. If they don’t they don’t deserve a run. Ever. Fk em.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
May 28, 2022 12:35 pm

Like it or not, ‘climate change’ (and everything that goes with it) is a now the front and centre, mainstream political issue in Australia.

Dr F, on election night one of the channels showed some opinion polling which said less than 10% of those surveyed put climate change as their major concern.

Timothy: I wrote those words quite carefully. You’ll note I claimed climate change as a major political issue – not a major concern to the average Australian punter.

The fact that Morrison has been given the arse by Performing Teals (big HT to whoever started that one) and the fucking Greens only emphasises that climate change is a front and centre issue for the political class.

Two terms of Albo/Bandit will break the back of coal-fired power and usher in European energy costs, with added unreliability because no nukes.

My hope for the future now relies on rebuilding efficiently from the energy wasteland.
Not a strong hope, I might add.

Oh come on
Oh come on
May 28, 2022 12:52 pm

You think all women need is a token “shout out”, no policies which benefit them, and you can continue on with your von Mises wishlist of classical liberal policies for a cruise to victory.

If the Libs follow your advice, they will join the DLP and UKIP on the scrapheap of history.

So you completely misunderstood what I wrote. Got it. No surprises there, I suppose.

Zipster
Zipster
May 28, 2022 12:55 pm

Why give oxygen.

some perverse pleasure in shooting fish in a barrel

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
May 28, 2022 12:57 pm

weak minded fucktards.

What % of a monty is that? How many weak minded fucktards to balance the scales of 1 monty. Will the monty take over from Giraffe as a unit of measurement?

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
May 28, 2022 1:00 pm

First Nations History class

Lasted all of 5 minutes.

Oh come on
Oh come on
May 28, 2022 1:01 pm

Oh, and the idea that teachers are a part of the ‘working class’ or whatever – now that is hilarious. Teachers are some of the most ostentatious members of m0nty’s Outer Party class.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
May 28, 2022 1:03 pm

You think all women need is a token “shout out”, no policies which benefit them, and you can continue on with your von Mises wishlist of classical liberal policies for a cruise to victory.

Poor old illiterate shiteater m0nty beclowns himself yet again, by getting OCO’s comment completely wrong.
OCO very clearly said that while token shoutouts work to get m0nty-class fucktards to slavishly vote leftist, they won’t work to appeal to the demographic that the Coalition need to chase.
So, exactly the opposite of what poor old mental dwarf m0nty is sneering about.
Poor old m0nty. It’s desperately sad.

Zipster
Zipster
May 28, 2022 1:05 pm

China in Focus – NTD
00:59 Escalating #StudentProtest trend in China
03:59 Beijing banks struggle to process withdrawals
05:46 Americans struggling to leave China: Viewer in China
09:40 Senators urge Biden to keep #ChinaTariffs
10:58 Top Gun sequel reverses Taiwan, Japan flag removal

Perth Trader
Perth Trader
May 28, 2022 1:07 pm

Woo Hoo. Great news chatters. I complained about my NBN speed and yesterday NBN Co. wrote back and advised that my claim of ‘piss poor’ service was valid. So, there crediting my acct for $340. Rise up people. Let ya voice be heard.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 28, 2022 1:08 pm

feelthebernsays:

May 28, 2022 at 11:34 am

Jeremy Clarkson has his own beer.
How good is his life?
Punching that BBC chappy was the most financially beneficial act he ever committed

His own beer, 1,000 acres in the Cotswolds which he can afford to run as a hobby farm and a solid 8.5/10 blonde Irish lady on his arm.
To quote Dudley Moore in the original “Arthur” fillem:-

“I play tennis. I race cars. I fondle women. But I do get weekends off, and I am my own boss.”

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 28, 2022 1:10 pm

Perth Tradersays:

May 28, 2022 at 1:07 pm

Woo Hoo. Great news chatters. I complained about my NBN speed and yesterday NBN Co. wrote back

WTF?
I thought NBN’s standard line was “Go talk to your retailer. Nafink to do wif us”.

MatrixTransform
MatrixTransform
May 28, 2022 1:10 pm

WTF is “Intergenerational trauma?”

Listening to mUnty talk gibberish

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

rosie says: May 28, 2022 at 8:15 am
< < < I feel very dissatisfied with Australian citizens who think we should kowtow to a communist bully
Many Chinese Australians have expressed their dissatisfaction towards the former Coalition government for taking a strong stance against China…

Ms Liu said she understood the negative sentiments of the community when they heard their country of origin that they still felt affection for being constantly targeted by the Australian government > > >

Spot on! Why are we allowing these people to become citizens?
If they feel so much affection for Communist China, they oughta renounce their Oz citizenship & return to their affectionately remembered homeland.

Tom
Tom
May 28, 2022 1:15 pm

How to destroy an economy: give a low IQ parasite like Elizabeth Warren regulatory control over the gasoline supply. Tucker Carlson Tonight.

bespoke
bespoke
May 28, 2022 1:17 pm

Was someone going for ‘Churchillian’?

Meh! I prefer the raw patina of the original rather then a jumbled collection varnished with jingoism myself.

Perth Trader
Perth Trader
May 28, 2022 1:18 pm

Sancho….I was 1 of 67000 people who complained to telstra and NBN.Telstra will face legal ramifications for delaying payments totalling $11 million dollars to 67,000 customers.The payments relate to compensation owed by the telco for exceeding agreed time frames for landline installation and repairs between July 2017 and June 2021. It pays to complain.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 28, 2022 1:23 pm

Perf Trader 1:18.
We have been running purely on mobile for ages.
It is sub-optimal for TV streaming at times, but I am seriously thinking about by-passing NBN and going 5G (or satellite if I can).
I think the predictions about the NBN being redundant before it is finished could be on the money.

Tom
Tom
May 28, 2022 1:25 pm

It pays to complain.

Spot on, Perth Trader.

Telstra still thinks it’s the Postmaster General’s department — and its staff behave like it. The only contact they have with the real world is through complaints from pissed off customers.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 28, 2022 1:25 pm

Speaking of nucalear power.
Just imagine if we had diverted the $20 billion (?) pissed away on desal plants in the Eastern states into nucalear power plants.

areff
areff
May 28, 2022 1:28 pm

Black like her:

From the Art Gallery of NSW’s profile of proud indigenous artist Judy Watson, who is about to proudly unveil Sydney City Council’s proud monument to proud indigenes:

Judy Watson has described her experiences of travelling to her great-grandmother’s country in north-west Queensland, as ‘learning from the ground up’. It is a philosophy she has transplanted on her several journeys and residencies abroad. In 1997 she represented Australia at the Venice Biennale, along with Emily Kam Ngwarray and Yvonne Koolmatrie.

Watson’s matrilineal link to the country of her ancestors has always been central to her printmaking and painting.

Notice they’ve chosen a shadowed b-&-w snap of Ms Watson. A more lifelike image here.

Actually, over-exposed self portraits appear to be her stock in trade.

Top Ender
Top Ender
May 28, 2022 1:30 pm

Nuclear power would be a nice issue for Dutton to wedge Labor on.

It’s not certain whether Albosleazy can govern in his own right in the House yet. If he needs a teal or Green vote to get his agenda over the line they’d likely dislike nuclear even more than Labor.

Either way it would be a good start for Dutton to build his platform on.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 28, 2022 1:30 pm

Telstra still thinks it’s the Postmaster General’s department

I walked into one of their stores the other day to enquire about NBN.
“Here’s our price list*”
“Anything off for existing customers”
“Nup”
“What about bundling with other services”
“Nup”
And these arseholes want legislated price hikes to protect them from competition.

* Glacial Plus – $80 per month.
Escargot Premium – $90 per month.
Cold Treacle Platinum Plan – $110 per month.
(These might not be the actual names they used).

Delta A
Delta A
May 28, 2022 1:31 pm

Makkasays:
May 28, 2022 at 12:35 pm

Excellent post, Makka.

…the Libs can take Govt. But it will mean a real and unshakable return to policies that benefit families over virtue signalling. COL, housing affordability, lower taxes AND SPENDING, utility costs, keeping the freaks out of our schools and kids education, get Green out of our lives and pockets.

Yes!

And ‘truth telling’: there are two genders, aborigines were hunter/gatherer nomads, (for now) nuclear is the only sensible way to go. And the biggie: full disclosure of politicians’ (and their families’) investment in big pharma and/or renewables.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Rogersays: May 28, 2022 at 9:00 am

At the risk of invoking Godwin’s Law…

Roger, I’m old enough to remember the actual Godwin’s Law.

It was never an automatic self-disqualification for mentioning anything to do with the “H” word, “N” word, or the “3rd R” word.
That came later.

miltonf
miltonf
May 28, 2022 1:38 pm

It should have been Dutton after Trumble was removed. Of course Trumble never really went away and it became pretty obvious that Scummo was Trumble’s bitch. That fact that Abbott was not invited back into the government left no doubt that the 2015 coup plotters were not going to reach out to former supporters. Last Saturday was inevitable after what happened in 2015.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Anyone wondering what is a ‘sprocket wrench’ should ask a member of the working class.
Y’know, a teacher or nurse.

Top Ender
Top Ender
May 28, 2022 1:40 pm

Managed to get two lots of dosh out of Telstra in the last six months.

When we moved south they said that we’d have internet at the next place. We didn’t and it took them four days to fix it. $260 compensation.

The other day they sent us to a store on a Saturday afternoon to get a mobile problem looked at. Store was shut. $130 compo.

I think the trick is to demand monetary compensation.

bespoke
bespoke
May 28, 2022 1:41 pm

The AFL ad stating “girls deserve mentors that look like them” is regressive.

miltonf
miltonf
May 28, 2022 1:43 pm

It should have been Dutton after Trumble was removed. Of course Trumble never really went away and it became pretty obvious that Scummo was Trumble’s bitch. That fact that Abbott was not invited back into the government left no doubt that the 2015 coup plotters were not going to reach out to former supporters. Last Saturday was inevitable after what happened in 2015. Report comment

Winston Smith
May 28, 2022 1:48 pm

Farma Gez:

The world is facing surging inflation as Ukraine is unable to ship wheat and cooking oils out of its main ports due to Russia’s blockade.

Yes, a bit of tongue in cheek, but I wonder how much of that wheat and oil is going to end up in a Chinese cooking pot?

bespoke
bespoke
May 28, 2022 1:57 pm
Struth
May 28, 2022 1:57 pm

Who knew that the Ukraine and Russia fed the world, supplied all the fossil fuels and all the electricity.

Australia is completely able to feed itself.
It’s has the ability to power itself cheaply.
It has ample oil supply gas supply, uranium etc.
Ample Iron ore, minerals, like bauxite etc.
Cotton, wool, beef, timber ….whatever.

We exist alone in an island in the Southern hemisphere without the need for a thing from overseas .
Nothing.

Anybody telling you that we need to pay more or go without is a globalist lying traitor.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
May 28, 2022 2:05 pm

Here you go.

https://www.indexmundi.com/agriculture/?commodity=wheat&graph=imports

Wheat isn’t just wheat. High protein for loaf breads, noodles, middle to low for flat breads, buns and low for biscuits. It’s all mix and match by origin and quality.
It’s not so much China buying but the demand from countries close to the Black Sea and where they go next for supply.
Oilseeds are easier as many crops produce oil. It’s substitutable, as they say in the trade and that can cap huge price jumps.
Wheat is wheat unless you want to eat corn bread.

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 28, 2022 2:10 pm

I’m amazed at the amount of posters who respond to monty.

No need.
Monty is the Organ Grinder putting out
fairly factual stuff [may contain traces of truthiness],
the monkeys dance to his tune.
Don’t feel sorry for those Monkeys either, they know who the boss is.

bespoke
bespoke
May 28, 2022 2:11 pm

“We exist alone in an island in the Southern hemisphere without the need for a thing from overseas .
Nothing.”- Alinta (1344 AD)

Frank
Frank
May 28, 2022 2:13 pm

areff says:
May 28, 2022 at 1:28 pm

They are the people we go to when we want to learn how to tell a story.

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 28, 2022 2:15 pm

The world is facing surging inflation as Ukraine is unable to ship wheat and cooking oils out of its main ports due to Russia’s blockade.

Rubbish.
There’s a war going on there, exporting wheat will lead to mass starvation in Ukraine.
India has also banned wheat exports.
Then there’s the fact that the Ukies have mined the Sea Lanes in the Black Sea, making Shipping there uninsurable.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
May 28, 2022 2:16 pm

Monty is the Organ Grinder* putting out….the monkeys dance to his tune.***
fairly factual stuff**

* Wanker
**Ed-facts, otherwise known as bullshit.
*** He gets corrected rather than his lies being allowed to exist unchallenged.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
May 28, 2022 2:16 pm

I attended dinner with work colleagues last week. My colleagues were pontificating on Labor’s win and how great it was. I chose to take the opposite view. It was interesting the interaction. They felt quite free to share their view of the world, gerbil warming, Thatcher was the wicked witch of the west, I know a blood who knows Scomo and he’s a xunt…. When I took issue they looked at me as though I was a right wing extremist. Anyway the temperature of the room escalated. I advised the main protagonist that regurgitating left wing twitter punchlines was not the basis for a rational discussion. …and so ended the evening.

When I say awkward, you say silence. Awkward! …

Perth Trader
Perth Trader
May 28, 2022 2:18 pm

Gez….I’m amazed by that chart. I never realized that Indonesia imported that much wheat.

Winston Smith
May 28, 2022 2:18 pm

Indolent:

We could see a million layoffs or more, as many goods sectors that benefited from the pandemic now realize they added too much capacity (as involuntary admissions make clear).

It looks like the vast majority of losses are coming from the service sector. In other words – the middle and upper middle classes.
They are not going to be happy with the O’Biden/Harris Administration who promised them the world in return for their votes.

bespoke
bespoke
May 28, 2022 2:20 pm

Monty is the Organ Grinder putting out
fairly factual stuff [may contain traces of truthiness],
the monkeys dance to his tune.

Jealous?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
May 28, 2022 2:20 pm

There’s a war going on there, exporting wheat will lead to mass starvation in Ukraine.
India has also banned wheat exports.

Today Ed-Mong will discover the Ukrainians have a land border other than the one with Russia.
Poland–Ukraine border is the state border between Poland and Ukraine. It has a total length of 535 km

cohenite
May 28, 2022 2:21 pm

Good girl with a gun.

Girls with guns; and tanks; and flame throwers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v37uKbnPpYQ

Dot
Dot
May 28, 2022 2:21 pm

monty gives advice about the primary vote and then tells me not to being it up.

It’s like arguing with Amber Heard on the virtues of not shitting on your bed.

He’ll agree with you, then give you reasons why it is wrong.

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 28, 2022 2:24 pm

Nuclear power would be a nice issue for Dutton to wedge Labor on.

For sure, if he’s planning to become like Alexander Downer and Brendan Nelson, the only Liberal Leaders never to make it to an Election.

Otherwise he won’t wanna touch the issue with a ten foot pole.

The Coalition stayed out of Industrial Relations [a very good idea],
apart from the ABCC, which did great work chasing down unpaid wages for Construction Workers.
The problem there is that chasing unpaid wages is the Unions job, so why is a Coalition Government doing the Unions hard work for them?

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
May 28, 2022 2:27 pm

regurgitating left wing twitter punchlines was not the basis for a rational discussion.

The start of the conversation may be more superficial than the basis of the conversation.

bespoke
bespoke
May 28, 2022 2:33 pm
Zipster
Zipster
May 28, 2022 2:38 pm

Today Ed-Mong will discover the Ukrainians have a land border other than the one with Russia.

bojo wants to ship weapons by sea to the shrimp

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 28, 2022 2:41 pm

Dickless

Are you still pushing a line on class structures that has more gradations in it than a Nazi manual on racial purity?

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 28, 2022 2:43 pm

Zipstersays:
May 28, 2022 at 2:38 pm
Today Ed-Mong will discover the Ukrainians have a land border other than the one with Russia.

bojo wants to ship weapons by sea to the shrimp

Is ha planning to send them via Kaliningrad/Konigsberg, or via Sebastopol?

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 28, 2022 2:43 pm

… an old Trokskyist who can’t believe his luck that Filth preferences have once again delivered power to the trade union party with a parliamentary majority of one.

He’s not there yet, still stuck on 75.
By the way, the NeoCons used to be Trotskyites, they rebadged in the 1950s, nothing else about them changed.

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 28, 2022 2:48 pm

Von Braun, if you read up on him,

You clearly haven’t, because if you had, you’d know that he declared going to the Moon impossible due to the Asteroid Belts.

was obsessed by rocket science. He rightly estimated the Americans would be more into military grade missiles than anyone else – and that might lead to a moon shot.

See my answer above.
He was a Nazi, he was always going to the United States.

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 28, 2022 2:49 pm

The Obama/Rhodes love affair with Iran just didn’t stop.

https://freebeacon.com/national-security/disclosed-how-obama-administration-officials-conducted-shadow-diplomacy-with-iran-to-undermine-trump/

I just don’t get it.
Of all the countries on the planet, why Iran?

Winston Smith
May 28, 2022 2:49 pm

Shatterzzz:

THE GUNS OF THE SOUTH by Harry Turtledove

Like his work – quite an imagination except he really screwed up the timeline of the Lizard invasion and made the series wildly disjointed.
Try Nuttall with his “Outside Context” series.

Oh come on
Oh come on
May 28, 2022 2:49 pm

Under the new regime, if you lot have your way, the median Liberal voter will be a part-time female nurse or teacher.

I don’t recall anyone here putting forward anything remotely like this.

m0nts, I get that you’re happy with the election outcome, but spending the following week so wasted that you’ve somehow arrived at such an epic miscomprehension is overdoing it.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 28, 2022 2:50 pm

miltonf at 1:43 – SloMo was at best a middle management place holder. Now he is not even that. Won’t even warrant a footnote to history.

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 28, 2022 2:50 pm

Ben Rhodes should be a dark cell somewhere.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
May 28, 2022 2:50 pm

Where is Anthony Albanese today ? Or An-Al for short.

Ed Case
Ed Case
May 28, 2022 2:53 pm

I’m amazed by that chart. I never realized that Indonesia imported that much wheat.

No choice in the matter.
Indonesia is a squalid dictatorship of Oligarchs squatting over 250 million people.
Once widespread food riots break out, they’re fucked.

Winston Smith
May 28, 2022 2:57 pm

Boambee John:

munty does another re-definition. Any teachers/nurses here care to comment?

Not really BJ.
By the time Monty runs facts through his ideology filter, there’s nothing left except the squeal of moving goalposts – and that’s unintelligible.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 28, 2022 2:59 pm

bespoke

Jealous?

Groogs can only aspire to being an organ grinder’s minkey.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WnlIWpZSPXU

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
May 28, 2022 3:06 pm

Australian Taxation Office website – website unavailable

Quick, buy lots of stuff GST-free!

😀

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 28, 2022 3:06 pm

I like the didgeridoo after every Swans goal.
I’ve been to enough league games to get sick of the thumping doof doof music after a try.
The Swans should make the didgeridoo a permanent fixture.

I missed the half time stuff.
I was inside hoovering the fantastic spread provided by Merivales.
Hemmes someone got himself the corporate catering contract for the SCG & new stadium next door when it’s finished.

Top Ender
Top Ender
May 28, 2022 3:07 pm

he declared going to the Moon impossible due to the Asteroid Belts

Um, mate, the “Asteroid Belts” are between Mars and Jupiter.

Makka
Makka
May 28, 2022 3:07 pm

The mulla walla rubbish of the indidge round gets on my works. The welcome to my own country, the preaching and abo magic smoke voodoo claptrap supposedly on display makes me dry retch. Sure, the talented indidge were and are masters, great athletes and league players. None better than the great man, Henry Arthur Beetson. Captained Australia and Qld. He was big enough not to need this paraphernalia to show his immense value to fans.

Makka
Makka
May 28, 2022 3:11 pm

Von Braun, if you read up on him,

Dulles made absolutely sure he went to the US. There was never any doubt.

Perth Trader
Perth Trader
May 28, 2022 3:11 pm

Ed Casesays:
May 28, 2022 at 2:53 pm……’No choice in the matter.
Indonesia is a squalid dictatorship of Oligarchs squatting over 250 million people.
Once widespread food riots break out, they’re fucked.’
Should I comment on this insane post?…nah…not worth it.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 28, 2022 3:15 pm

Um, mate, the “Asteroid Belts” are between Mars and Jupiter.

Wasn’t the “Van Allen” belts supposed to be the barrier to the moon landings?

Zipster
Zipster
May 28, 2022 3:15 pm
cohenite
May 28, 2022 3:16 pm

Pete Arredondo, chief of police for the Uvalde Consolidated Independent School District, had stopped at least 19 officers from breaking into the school as the gunman opened fire for at least an hour…

Big fat pete has to go.

Zipster
Zipster
May 28, 2022 3:19 pm

The Obama/Rhodes love affair with Iran just didn’t stop.

https://freebeacon.com/national-security/disclosed-how-obama-administration-officials-conducted-shadow-diplomacy-with-iran-to-undermine-trump/

I just don’t get it.
Of all the countries on the planet, why Iran?

obummer’s dad is a shiite muslim

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 28, 2022 3:20 pm

There has to be more than that Zipster.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 28, 2022 3:22 pm

The welcome to my own country

The knowledge that “Welcome to country” was only ever made up, by Ernie Dingo, and wasn’t part of any traditional Aboriginal culture…

cohenite
May 28, 2022 3:31 pm

obummer’s dad is a shiite muslim

Plus he hates the US; plus he’s an idiot who believes a stronger Iran will counter balance the other nations in the ME and lead to stability.

cohenite
May 28, 2022 3:38 pm

The cops at the Texas school disaster are claiming it was a barricaded shooter situation not an active shooter situation. This despite the continued shooting and calls from trapped kids. Also some idiot apparently went out to have a fag from the back of the school and left the door unlocked. The school resource officer whose duty was to protect the school and after hearing of a problem at the school contented himself with just driving by the school after the killer had gone in. Abbott claims the local cops and school staff lied to him. Arses being covered at a rapid rate.

shatterzzz
May 28, 2022 3:45 pm

Just back from my Saturday afternoon OAP “freebie” at the local leisure centre .. 20 laps (1 km) and only 2 other folk in the outdoor pool .. gotta admit being 74 and in excellent health , mind & body, makes retirement more enjoyable ..!

calli
calli
May 28, 2022 3:46 pm

Good stiff, Bespoke!

And not a single Spacely Sprocket in any of it.

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
May 28, 2022 3:46 pm

The Streetwise Prof’s critique of Davos. Worth the 5 minute read.

https://streetwiseprofessor.com/save-the-world-nuke-davos/#comments

An extract:

Save the World: Nuke Davos

One of the few compensations of COVID was that the World Economic Federation meeting in Davos was canceled for two years. But all good things come to an end, and Davos is back, more malign than ever.

Of course the opening address was given by Klaus Schwab. (Aside: how come poor Appalachian whites are blamed for the evils of slavery, and the son of a for real hardcore Nazi gets a pass?)

He was touting “trust-based and action-oriented cooperation.” Orwellian doesn’t even come close to doing that justice. And nota bene: “cooperation” can be a synonym for conspiracy.

This is also Orwellian:

And finally. When it comes to business and economic activities, Davos is not a place for narrow self-interest. It is instead a place for the implementation of the notion of stakeholder capitalism, a concept I’m fighting for since 50 years. (Emphasis in original.)

A Forum partner is asked to value the contributions not just of shareholders, but of all those other stakeholders who are essential for business to succeed. As I wrote in my book Stakeholder Capitalism, Davos stands for a global economy that works for prosperity, people, and the planet.

“Stakeholder capitalism” is an oxymoron, and it is a synonym for fascism.

It is an oxymoron, because capitalism means that the owners of capital make the decisions on how it is used. Marxists have never liked the way that capitalists used it, which is why they wanted to expropriate it. At least they were honest, and didn’t say they were advocating “socialized capitalism.” “Stakeholder capitalism” means that those who don’t own something can nonetheless dictate how to use it, because they have some self-asserted “stake” in it. Using the word “capitalism” is a clever trick to seduce non-Marxists into believing that what Schwab et al are advocating is just a kinder, gentler version of a free market economy, when in fact their agenda is profoundly anti-capitalism and anti-freedom.

calli
calli
May 28, 2022 3:47 pm

stuff

Horrid typo.

cohenite
May 28, 2022 3:50 pm

Great article on why these school shootings are happening more frequently today in a gun culture that basically hasn’t changed. The author blames the growth of the bureaucracy where responsibility and decision making are stymied while initiative, bravery and courage are also depressed. this bureaucratization of public life actually contributes to the growth of violence as proper values are undermined and the most violent realise there are a lack of consequences. All this happens under left regimes. So for the citizenry the threat is 2-fold: they are disarmed and discouraged from independence while those most likely to harm them are encouraged in an infrastructure where the usual safe-guards are eroded.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
May 28, 2022 3:52 pm

From CL
https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2022-05-28/racial-controversy-diversity-inclusion-science-plant-congress/101041288

Just when you think the stupid couldn’t get any more stupid, they top themselves.
Plant genetics needs racial diversity like a bucket needs air holes.

shatterzzz
May 28, 2022 3:53 pm

The knowledge that “Welcome to country” was only ever made up, by Ernie Dingo, and wasn’t part of any traditional Aboriginal culture…

The main problem for the 251s is so much of this “cultural” crap seems to be made up to fit the issue/situation that neither they nor the, toadying, gummints’, Fed & State, can grasp the reality that most folk don’t care/believe it anymore! .. Guess AnAl is gonna have to wait for the results of his “I luvs 251s” referendum to fully understand this …. LOL!

calli
calli
May 28, 2022 3:53 pm

Qantas Founders was worth every cent. Walked through the super Constellation – in today’s money $23K+ one way to London. One class – luxury.

Some other great aircraft in the hangar. No wing walk – ankle decided to go buggerup.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
May 28, 2022 3:55 pm

Nuclear power would be a nice issue for Dutton to wedge Labor on.

Unfortunately Labor got there first.

The report of the 2019 Parliamentary Committee Inquiry into the prerequisites for nuclear energy in Australia found that:

1) it was a good idea, worth considering, particularly if Australia wanted reliable, low emissions electricity at a reasonably affordable price;

2) but could only happen if there was bipartisan support at all levels of government.

Labor’s contribution was a dissenting report saying no fucking way, renewables only – because cheaper and because. And perhaps because nuclear bombs and treaties. And palluders.

Zali Steggle’s dissenting report said no Fukushima way because scary, plus:

…a group of nine conservation organisations submitted a Lazard levelised cost of electricity analysis from November 2018 which stated a nuclear cost of A$166-280/MWh as compared to $A43-83/MWh for wind and A$55-68/MWh for solar.

The daily average east coast wholesale electricity price in May has run between $230/MWh and $350/MWh – with a peak of over 1200MWh (SA, obviously).

The Australian polity is infested by maggots.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 28, 2022 3:57 pm

Third World problems…

Anxiety Aunt: Help! I passed wind in my yoga class and now I’m too embarrassed to go back
Jay Hanna
The West Australian
Sat, 28 May 2022 8:00AM

Dear Aunty,

I recently took up yoga for the physical and mental benefits and was having a great time getting stronger and more flexible. As an added bonus I was starting to get to know a handsome guy who was in the same class. We got to the stage where he asked me for a coffee after the last class I attended. However, during that class something very embarrassing happened — I passed gas while trying to manoeuvre myself into a particularly tricky pose. It was loud and confronting and I left the class and haven’t been back since. I really want to go back to the class and to see this guy again but any time I even think about what happened I cringe. Do I dare go back?

Winston Smith
May 28, 2022 4:01 pm

Wolfman Oz:

I’m amazed at the amount of posters who respond to monty.
Whenever I see a post by him/her (or whatever) i just scroll past it and total ignore it – likewise with those who respond.

They’re the ones who decry the open forum is becoming clogged with Montyshit.
This one has about half devoted to the scatological mutterings of the idiot. And it’s only just started.
I’m taking a break.

Frank
Frank
May 28, 2022 4:02 pm

Zali Steggle et al: trail mix requires no refrigeration or cooking so it has that going for it.

miltonf
miltonf
May 28, 2022 4:02 pm

Shouldn’t generalize but I always though Mosman-Cremorne Military Road was fuckwit central. Electing and re electing Steggles suggests I may have been onto something.

rosie
rosie
May 28, 2022 4:05 pm

I guess I won’t be staying in Hepburn any time soon.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
May 28, 2022 4:06 pm

Interesting the talk of von Braun coz a few days ago a feed I get had a picture of von Braun, Van Allen and Pickering in the 50’s.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
May 28, 2022 4:08 pm

bespoke says: May 28, 2022 at 1:57 pm

Good girl with a gun.

Meanwhile on Reddit Brisbane, Australia’s patron saint of disarmament continues to be worshipped. Therein you will discover that “The good guys with guns thing has been debunked like a thousand times” and “guns make everyone more in danger not safer.” and on the most recent massacre:

The republicans keep saying “send more people with guns then” but the good guys with guns are too afraid of dying too.

All of these points are refuted by USA FBI crime statistics, particularly in places that changed policy on concealed carry just a few years apart such as Chicago.

Australia isn’t safer because it banned guns, because 1) gun crime had been trending down even before the buyback, 2) guns in general were actually not banned but the conditions for a license were made more strict and some particular designs were recategorised, 3) Australia has tax-funded safety nets and a culture imparted onto kids different to Americans that make it less likely here that anyone needs to resort to crime to get what they need. (Note ‘need’, not ‘want’, as crimes of passion may still be a problem regardless of social programmes.)

Oddly enough, in that same Reddit thread they are happy to cite Howard describing guns as “evil” and that he “hated” guns as though that somehow convicts guns rather than convicting Howard of using democratic power to carry out a personal crusade.
And why is it that when the “good guys with guns” fail to use their powers in situations that clearly call for it, this is considered the fault of the *person* with the gun, but when people go on a murderous rampage to vent their frustrations with life in general, this is blamed on the mere presence of ‘guns’ themselves? Seems a bit of a double-standard. How about it’s always the people to blame, not the force multiplier of the gun.

The flip side is, there is no telling what tumultuous path a person may take through life, and someone who could be trusted with such powers last year may not be trustworthy today. The gun multiplies the will of the wielder for either bad or good. This is also a reason police check their guns in at the end of a shift and do not take them home, they were granted the weapon for a particular purpose and not for any other. You cannot guarantee that a ‘good person’ will ‘act good’ in the heat of the moment or that they will remain ‘good’ over time, so how much risk does the society take on to get the benefits of guns outweighing the costs?
This is partly factual, but it is also a risk tolerance question so it will always be disagreed upon by people with different sensitivities.

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