Open Thread – Weekend 18 June 2022


Fishing Boats at Honfleur, Claude Monet, 1868

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Roger
Roger
June 20, 2022 12:42 pm

Interesting given the fight against Pushkin.

That was driven by the ultranationalists. Unfortunately recent events have only strengthened them.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 20, 2022 12:43 pm

The Russian parliament has for weeks been discussing whether to revoke Lithuania’s independence, granted in 1991.

Lithuania wants Smolensk back.

“Smolensk is Lithuania”: Lithuanian MP reminds Russia of long-standing border agreement (11 Jun)

MP Matas Maldeikis said on Twitter: “If Russia revokes her 1991 recognition of Lithuania’s independence, Lithuania will revoke the 1634 Treaty of Polyanovka and demand that Putin submits to the authority of W?adys?aw IV and returns all occupied territories to the Grand Duchy.

“Smolensk is Lithuania!”

Good luck with that. On the other hand Vlad does seem to be aligning everyone against him, and enough minnows standing together can become a problem.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
June 20, 2022 12:47 pm

Jab jab booster…………………………………..
People have been asking me what I think of the CDC approval of these vaccine for babies and young children, and I have to ask them, do you really not know what I think?

I mean, seriously?

Have you looked at the VAERS data lately? The CDC apparently has not. In the USA alone, there have been 831,801 adverse events, of which 12,776 are life threatening. There have been 63,978 hospitalizations. There have been 13,293 deaths and 14,232 permanent disabilities from these vaccines. True, these are “unverified – but previous research has shown that the VAERS system under-reported adverse events associated with vaccines, not over-reports. Physicians and health care professionals rarely report adverse events past the 30 day window, so the true number of adverse events are unknown. But we do know that they are higher than reported. Remember that the mRNA in these vaccines continues to produce spike protein for at least 60 days. Then there are the international post-vaccine adverse event summaries.

https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/rational-nosocomephobia

Roger
Roger
June 20, 2022 12:48 pm

NSW Premier Dominic Perrottet says he will review the $25 million quote to add the Aboriginal flag to the Sydney Harbour Bridge

Maybe he can knock 25% off – bargain!

I wonder how much of the cost is due to the various indigenous groups being “consulted” over the matter clipping their tickets?

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
June 20, 2022 12:50 pm

Re Fina decision to keep womens swimming for women. It will be interesting to see how this devolves from here. The trans community are v good at weaponising for this type of decision. I can almost hear the war machines being wheeled into position to assault FINA before commonsense has a chance to spread. Am expecting fina to be divided, attacked, government funding withdrawn, law suits, deplatformed, individuals cut from the herd and mown down. This is only the start. Trannies did not get this far by taking prisoners. Already the left have wheeled out athletes who do not support the decision. The dividing begins.

Winston Smith
June 20, 2022 12:50 pm

Bruce O’Newk:

Yep, it’s a religion which is destroying kids’ lives. Criticize any of it and you will be a heretic to be cancelled.

It’s not a religion, Bruce. It’s a cult. A bloody minded and evil one.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 20, 2022 12:51 pm

I just thought of something around “perennial free solar power”.
How resistant are solar panels to hail damage?

rickw
rickw
June 20, 2022 12:52 pm

NSW Premier Dominic Perrottet says he will review the $25 million quote to add the Aboriginal flag to the Sydney Harbour Bridge

Occasionally there is a minor embarrassment when The Punters find out exactly how much of their hard earned cash is wasted by The Parasite Class.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 20, 2022 12:54 pm

Correct Fair Shake.
This is just the beginning.
Look for “sleeping giants” attacks on FINA sponsors as a starter.
I almost want the Big Trannie to compete in the ‘Lympics and let people see it in all it’s grotesque ugliness.

John Sheldrick
June 20, 2022 12:57 pm

Your Government is trying to kill you & Depopulate the planet; Official Government Reports, Confidential Pfizer Documents & the Cost of Living Crisis prove it

What an absolutely shocking Report. Where is the DOJ and others to prosecute the FDA and “Fizzer” Company Directors/Chairperson and Executives?

rickw
rickw
June 20, 2022 12:58 pm

We did have at the Naval College a female trainee officer who refused to fire her rifle at the target because it was shaped like a human.

That’s what tampon advertisement style recruiting gets you…

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 20, 2022 12:59 pm

Jab jab booster

We’ve known this for a while, but I saw this article this morning.

New study: Six months after vaccination, protection is ‘zero’ (Israel National News, 19 Jun)

With Israeli authorities holding off on recommending a fifth vaccine dose against COVID based on their observations of its limited efficacy against the Omicron variant, a new study has confirmed their findings, showing that within half a year of vaccination, protection against symptomatic Omicron-variant coronavirus drops to zero.

As mentioned previously the Swedish data shows it goes negative from then on, so that previously vaccinated people are more infectible than if they never had had the vaccination in the first place. Fortunately Omicron is roughly equal to the common cold, so it doesn’t really matter much.

P
P
June 20, 2022 1:02 pm

NSW Premier Dominic Perrottet says he will review the $25 million quote to add the Aboriginal flag to the Sydney Harbour Bridge

Do we need it?

Next it will be the rainbow flag.

Winston Smith
June 20, 2022 1:03 pm

Vicki:
The pdf is downloading even as we speak.
Ta!

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
June 20, 2022 1:04 pm

It’s not a religion, Bruce. It’s a cult. A bloody minded and evil one.

A religion is a cult which has been successful.

Dot
Dot
June 20, 2022 1:05 pm

CNN is breaking news that Alith Anar is demanding sovereignty over and independence for the Shadowlands.

rickw
rickw
June 20, 2022 1:06 pm

Victoriastan vaccine mandate ends at midnight on this Friday.

The science behind this decision? The Bat Eared Mong needs to win the upcoming election.

Fuck these fucking arseholes.

John Sheldrick
June 20, 2022 1:06 pm

NSW Premier Dominic Perrottet says he will review the $25 million quote to add the Aboriginal flag to the Sydney Harbour Bridge

How on earth does it cost $25 million to put a flag pole and a flag onto the top of the Sydney Harbour Bridge? Did the Gov’ment get the required 3 quotes which is normal Business practice? Is the yellow in the Flag really gold thread? Is the work being done by some inefficient “Gov’ment Services” mob? Maybe the local “Mob” are going to do the work. The mind boggles.

Will the flag be lowered to half mast along with the two other flags for important events like the death of the Queen, etc.?

This whole thing is outrageous………………….

calli
calli
June 20, 2022 1:06 pm

If all the jabbing and boosting is supposed to cause people to get sick more easily and more often, it has failed dismally with the Beloved.

He’s had four jabs plus the flu one and can’t even manage a sniff.

And no, he doesn’t live in a germ free bubble. Quite the contrary.

Perth Trader
Perth Trader
June 20, 2022 1:09 pm

The easiest and simply way to shut down the Aboriginal Industry is , the next time a Aust. Census it issued tick that your indigenous . If the whole population is indigenous the constitution and a voice in parliament is null and void.

John Sheldrick
June 20, 2022 1:10 pm

I just thought of something around “perennial free solar power”.
How resistant are solar panels to hail damage?

They aren’t and the hail has a smashing time all round.

duncanm
duncanm
June 20, 2022 1:11 pm

Top Endersays:
June 20, 2022 at 12:33 pm
Keith Windshuttle in fine form over people identifying as Aboriginal over at Quadrant.

oh dear… digging into Bruce Pascoe is interesting.

Joanna Hackett mentions Bruce’s charity food operation “Black Duck Foods”.

From the charities register:
https://www.acnc.gov.au/charity/charities/808e578a-6257-ea11-a811-000d3ad1f497/profile

Someone is making a motza.. and it ain’t from food.

Income:
45% government grants – $420k
47% donations and bequests – $440k
2.4% revenue from goods and services – $22k

Expenses:
88% employee – $343k

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 20, 2022 1:11 pm

That idiot Perrottet has made a tactically bad decision: he’ll be criticised next for not installing two flagpoles. Won’t someone think of the Torres Strait islanders?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 20, 2022 1:11 pm

How on earth does it cost $25 million to put a flag pole and a flag onto the top of the Sydney Harbour Bridge?

They need four flagpoles.

One for the Oz flag.
One for the Aboriginal flag.
One for the Qwerty rainbow flag.
And, finally, one for the Chinese flag.

calli
calli
June 20, 2022 1:12 pm

One of my solar panel ponderings is how they are maintained for maximum efficiency.

Solved! The hailstorms clean them up.

pete of perth
pete of perth
June 20, 2022 1:14 pm

The chinese flag will dwarf the others.

Eyrie
Eyrie
June 20, 2022 1:16 pm

Regarding the Dyson Sphere story earlier, if you want to know how a real Dyson Sphere would look there’s a cute little SF story:
Eyes, Shining Back from the Dark by Mike Combs

Available from several outlets in various formats.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
June 20, 2022 1:30 pm

The easiest and simply way to shut down the Aboriginal Industry is , the next time a Aust. Census it issued tick that your indigenous . If the whole population is indigenous the constitution and a voice in parliament is null and void.

We could form the new Çatallaxy tribe and vouch for each other. I’m happy to be aboriginal.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
June 20, 2022 1:32 pm

Armchair Warlord
@ArmchairW
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5h
UK trying to set up a separate alliance with the Baltics has gigantic 1930s France vibes and will probably end about the same way.

Does the Armchair Copelord mean that he expects the Ukrainian flag to be raised over the ruins of Moscow in about 12-15 years’ time? And does he still honestly assume that Ukraine and the Baltic republics will meekly play the roles of Czechoslovakia, Poland and France to Russia’s latter-day Nazi Germany, in the face of 8 years and 4+ months of very clear demonstrations to the contrary?

Then again, the selfsame Copelord was telling us all a month ago of his absolute and utter conviction that Ukraine in the Donbass was ‘speedrunning’ the collapse of Germany’s defences in Pomerania and East Prussia in late 1944- early 1945.* Whatever that meant.

What a shame then, that his beloved Red Army 2.0 does not face a completely shattered Wehrmacht fighting two more numerically and technologically superior militaries on its western and southern borders, and has no Zhukovs, no Konevs and no crushing material or logistical superiorities on every front from Baltic to Adriatic to back his beliefs…

* I suspect that if the Germans had had 8 years to prepare Pomerania, Hungary and East Prussia the way the Ukrainians fortified everything east and north of Donetsk after Vlad Bae’s first adventures in 2014 and reprises in 2015-17, WW2 would have ended very differently.

#BadTakes

#ThisLikelyWon’tAgeWell

John Sheldrick
June 20, 2022 1:32 pm

Vickisays:
June 20, 2022 at 11:35 am
I don’t know if this link will readily work, as I had repeated problems when I first tried it. It is a link, through the doctors4covidethics.org website to the most extensive and extraordinary report on the falsities and negligence involved in the production of the Covid vaccines. This is “The Covid Lies” compiled by retired Pfizer vice President and immunologist of over 30 years, Dr. Mike Yeadon. It is some 31 pages long and totally dissects, from a professional perspective, the terrible deception that has taken place.

I hope that this link will enable the document to be read:

https://doctors4covidethics.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/The-Covid-Lies-updated.pdf

SUMMARY

I contend that all the main narrative points about the coronavirus named SARS-CoV-2
are lies. Furthermore, all the “measures” imposed on the population are also lies. In
what follows, I support these claims scientifically, mostly by reference to peer-reviewed
journal articles. In 2019, World Health Organization (WHO) scientists reviewed the
evidence for the utility of all non-pharmaceutical interventions, concluding that they
are all without effect.

Given the foregoing, it is no longer possible to view the last two years as well intentioned errors. Instead, the objectives of the perpetrators are most likely to be
totalitarian control over the population by means of mandatory digital IDs and cashless
central bank digital currencies (CBDCs).

$ere is no medical or public health emergency. We can and should take back our
freedoms with immediate effect. Testing healthy people stops. If you’re sick, please stay
home. Masks belong in the trash. $e Covid-19 gene-based injections are not
recommended and must not be coerced or mandated. Crucially, the vaccine passports
database must be destroyed. Economic rectitude is recommended.

Serious crimes have obviously been committed. It is not the purpose of this document
to accuse anyone or to assemble the evidence against them at this time. However, when
this is all resolved, We the People are strongly recommended to pay much more
attention to Washington than previously.

Serious stuff indeed.

Winston Smith
June 20, 2022 1:33 pm

Bruce O’Newk:

Good luck with that. On the other hand Vlad does seem to be aligning everyone against him, and enough minnows standing together can become a problem.

Piranhas come to mind.
“Just one tiny nibble, monsieur”

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
June 20, 2022 1:37 pm

Maybe the ‘provocations’ are occuring on both sides.

Nice chicken-and-egg.

Unfortunately, the ‘egg’ in your argument hatched a whole bunch of Little Green ‘anonymous’ Men (Just ignore the Spetsnaz, VDV and Russian Army uniforms and weapons they carried), who then took the Crimean Peninsula in a coup de main in 2014.

And who then kept pretending they were Donetski and Luhanski for some 7 years afterwards…

Dot
Dot
June 20, 2022 1:37 pm

The Russian parliament has for weeks been discussing whether to revoke Lithuania’s independence

Um

It doesn’t work like that.

Theoretically or practically.

This is an “und Steiner” – ism.

Winston Smith
June 20, 2022 1:38 pm

Sancho Panzer:
Solar panels are very ressitant to hail damage.
Not one hailstone survived the impact.

Lysander
Lysander
June 20, 2022 1:38 pm

Income:
45% government grants – $420k
47% donations and bequests – $440k
2.4% revenue from goods and services – $22k

Expenses:
88% employee – $343k

So where is Pascoe spending any money other than wages?

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 20, 2022 1:38 pm

Your Government is trying to kill you & Depopulate the planet; Official Government Reports, Confidential Pfizer Documents & the Cost of Living Crisis prove it

This reminds me, one of the key elements of the world takeover plan for the “secret royal families/oligarchs” in Reilly’s books was to reduce the population by multiple billions.

I suspect that Reilly opposes the WEF/New World Order, and used his books to draw attention to them.

Perth Trader
Perth Trader
June 20, 2022 1:42 pm

[The easiest and simply way to shut down the Aboriginal Industry ]…I’m not joking here people. Can you imagine if 26 million people identified as indigenous ? The federal parliament after that census would be tied up for years needing a new definition of ‘indigenous’ . It would create more havoc that trying to find a definition for ‘woman’. The human rights and indigenous legal system would collapse under its own weight.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 20, 2022 1:45 pm

Dr BG

We could form the new Çatallaxy tribe and vouch for each other. I’m happy to be aboriginal.

Apparently the word “aboriginal” is now deemed to be offensive. Best to use indigenous, it has the advantage of applying accurately to very, very, many people who might or might not have “aboriginal” ancestors.

It is an indicator of the decline in literacy that the more accurate word “aboriginal” (original inhabitant) is now superseded by the wider-meaning word “indigenous” (born here).

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 20, 2022 1:50 pm

Another pole for the white flag.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 20, 2022 1:51 pm

rickwsays:

June 20, 2022 at 1:06 pm

Victoriastan vaccine mandate ends at midnight on this Friday.

Is it all mandates rickw?
I heard hospitals are still in, along with other public servants “interfacing with vunerabull people” (whatever the fuck that means).
But very quietly dropped over the weekend with no fanfare. In fact, the MSM gave a lot of airplay to Covid-Karens insisting on more jabs and more masks.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 20, 2022 1:52 pm

Keith Windshuttle in fine form over people identifying as Aboriginal over at Quadrant.

Isn’t this what brought Andrew Bolt in front of the Courts?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 20, 2022 1:53 pm

whole bunch of Little Green ‘anonymous’ Men

Interestingly the LGM had a go at the Yanks in Syria overnight.
They didn’t get splatted like Trump did to them.

Russia Attacks US-Backed Fighters In Syria At American Outpost (20 Jun)

Funny how elections, stolen or otherwise, matter to little green men.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
June 20, 2022 1:57 pm

Re FINA

The trans activists will attack FINA sponsors first….

Just remembered Gina Rinehart , our IronOre Lady, stands behind Australian Swimmers. She won’t be turned easily. Bring it on.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
June 20, 2022 1:59 pm

Fortunately Omicron is roughly equal to the common cold, so it doesn’t really matter much.

Well that may be true for some but in my case I only just made it through Omicron. I was seriously ill and only saved by anti-virals.

wivenhoe
wivenhoe
June 20, 2022 2:01 pm

Get ready for gender-affirming lawfare…

Well, yeah, but do they have standing?

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
June 20, 2022 2:05 pm

Well, yeah, but do they have standing?

I don’t, but I have an enlargement.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
June 20, 2022 2:06 pm

I have been an Aboriginal nonbinary person on the last two census reports. Having found my heritage in one of Bruce Pasco’s books.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
June 20, 2022 2:06 pm

LOL, I love how you ignore Maiden as if the US/NATO were completely uninvolved in that. Nuland just appeared in the crowd to give moral support. Completely spontaneous and coincidental.

LOL right back at you. You in turn wilfully ignore the Orange Revolution of 2004-05 that put Ukraine’s political class on notice that to the average punter, the old ways of bowing to Moscow and stealing everything else was no longer an acceptable way to live or govern. Not when it was blindingly obvious to all that their post-Soviet neighbours to their west were flourishing while Ukraine stagnated.

I mean, How DARE Russian vassals revolt against their rightful masters and seek a different way for themselves?

You behave as if the Ukrainian people have never had, nor deserve their own agency. And are merely fleshpuppets on strings. And that Russian meddling is somehow more wholesome and holy than debbil-debbil American meddling. Because US Democrats…

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
June 20, 2022 2:07 pm

Armchair Warlord owns brOSINT and it’s not even close.

You should tell the Ukrainian armed forces that, vatnik…

Goanna
Goanna
June 20, 2022 2:07 pm

After less than twenty years some of the lichen growth on our Colorbond roof was ~ 75mm in diameter.
Remove the lichen and it takes part of the roof too!

I was curious about the effect of solar panels on lichen growth.

I asked Colorbond technical advice if solar panels encouraged lichen growth under the panels or not?
They didn’t know the answer.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
June 20, 2022 2:08 pm

Armchair Warlord owns brOSINT and it’s not even close.

Unless that was a tongue-in-cheek pisstake, in which case I applaud you…

Vicki
Vicki
June 20, 2022 2:09 pm

Well that may be true for some but in my case I only just made it through Omicron. I was seriously ill and only saved by anti-virals.

No matter how sceptical we are about the official Covid narrative, I think we need to appreciate that, as is the case for many other viral infections, individuals may suffer serious illness depending on their susceptibility.

Given that SARS 2 is a gain-of-function pathogen, I personally, have never taken it lightly. Husband and I have done everything possible not to contract it. In our case, husband reacted very mildly, and I (so far) have not contracted it at all. So, although it may have an overall mortality rate little different from a case of influenza, some people still are hospitalised with influenza.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 20, 2022 2:12 pm

Rex.
SBS Viceland is running a continuous NZ rail trip … hours on end.
Riveting stuff.

Diogenes
Diogenes
June 20, 2022 2:13 pm

Good luck with that. On the other hand Vlad does seem to be aligning everyone against him, and enough minnows standing together can become a problem

When you look at who is aligning against him, you would think “well they would wouldn’t they”. Pop quiz, how many of the G20 have imposed sanctions?

Kneel
Kneel
June 20, 2022 2:13 pm

“Where is the DOJ and others to prosecute the FDA and “Fizzer” Company Directors/Chairperson and Executives?”

You must be joking – there is evidence of people breaking the law all through 2020 (BLM “mostly peaceful” riots, with how many dead and how many billions of dollars damage?) as well as very recently an illegal demonstration outside the house of a supreme court judge who was the target of an assassin, and the DoJ does NOTHING – in fact, DC govco had to PAY COMPENSATION to BLM rioters!

Meanwhile, people on misdemeanor trespass charges for Jan 6 languish in solitary confinement with no access to legal representation for 18 months, even people who were invited in by Capitol Police!

The US DoJ is so highly partisan it’s disgusting, while the US left runs their farce of a show trial in an attempt to keep DJT from running for President again, with the blessing and encouragement of the MSM.

calli
calli
June 20, 2022 2:15 pm

A religion is a cult which has been successful.

A cult is an unsuccessful religion. So unsuccessful it forbids people from leaving.

Bluey
Bluey
June 20, 2022 2:20 pm

Rex Angersays:
June 20, 2022 at 2:06 pm
LOL, I love how you ignore Maiden as if the US/NATO were completely uninvolved in that. Nuland just appeared in the crowd to give moral support. Completely spontaneous and coincidental.

LOL right back at you. You in turn wilfully ignore the Orange Revolution of 2004-05 that put Ukraine’s political class on notice that to the average punter, the old ways of bowing to Moscow and stealing everything else was no longer an acceptable way to live or govern. Not when it was blindingly obvious to all that their post-Soviet neighbours to their west were flourishing while Ukraine stagnated.

I mean, How DARE Russian vassals revolt against their rightful masters and seek a different way for themselves?

You behave as if the Ukrainian people have never had, nor deserve their own agency. And are merely fleshpuppets on strings. And that Russian meddling is somehow more wholesome and holy than debbil-debbil American meddling. Because US Democrats…

Why do you constantly act like you assume Russia does not have it’s own interests and desires for security? Or that those can be completely ignored? I have no doubt Russia have taken casualties, have made mistakes, etc. End of the day though, they don’t have to do anything other than attrite the Ukrainian forces to win. It’s pretty clear with recent admissions they’re very much doing that.

The reality of relations between nations is small powers will always have to take into account their larger neighbors. As far as I can tell Ukraine’s leaders seem to think they can ignore Russia because the EU and the US have their back. It’s not remotely realistic.

Australia no different. The only thing we really have to our advantage is we are in the arse end of nowhere. We are a tiny population and really quite irrelevant for most of the world.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 20, 2022 2:25 pm

Dover – Over 300 Wagner guys were turned to goo by American artillery in the LGM try-on against the Syrian Kurds and their oil assets. Thereafter there was no such attempts until Biden’s usurpocracy. Now the LGM are active in Syria again.

If you are firm with chancers they don’t fart about. Israel learned this lesson a long time ago, and has applied it well.

dopey
dopey
June 20, 2022 2:26 pm

$25m for a flag pole. Indigenous engineers don’t come cheap.

John Sheldrick
June 20, 2022 2:28 pm

Vickisays:
June 20, 2022 at 2:09 pm

Well that may be true for some but in my case I only just made it through Omicron. I was seriously ill and only saved by anti-virals.

No matter how sceptical we are about the official Covid narrative, I think we need to appreciate that, as is the case for many other viral infections, individuals may suffer serious illness depending on their susceptibility.

Given that SARS 2 is a gain-of-function pathogen, I personally, have never taken it lightly. Husband and I have done everything possible not to contract it. In our case, husband reacted very mildly, and I (so far) have not contracted it at all. So, although it may have an overall mortality rate little different from a case of influenza, some people still are hospitalised with influenza.

Here is the final Conclusion from that “Covid Lies” Report

Conclusions

I think it’s worth developing the theme of turning away from evidence of sheer evil, and
I have to say more, because it is THE pressing issue today. $e evidence I set forth
makes it perfectly plain that the entire world is being lied to in ways that led—
predictably—to huge suffering and death. Given that none of the “measures” imposed
could have mitigated illness and death from a respiratory virus, the only outcome was
to be the fracturing of civil society and damage, potentially fatal, to the economy and
financial system. I emphasise again here that WHO scientists had conducted a detailed
review of control measures for respiratory virus epidemics and pandemics as recently
as 2019, and they concluded that no imposed NPI measures make any difference at
all.23 the claims made for control in Wuhan are not credible.

Page 28 of 31

The stakeholders who must have approved this action own or control the majority of
the world’s capital and assets. Their motivation cannot be for money, for they stand
astride the money-creating apparatus in the central and private banks. Equally, it
cannot be to obtain gross control over the population, since they already demonstrably
have that. This is what leads me inexorably to propose that the motives behind this are
terrible—at the very least, to secure totalitarian control through mandatory, digital IDs
(in the guise of useless “vaccine passports,” useless because none of these so-called
vaccines reduce transmission, the only possible justification for them). Add to this a
“financial great reset” with withdrawal of cash and introduction of central bank digital
currencies (CBDCs), and we have a wholly controlled population, controlled
automatically without human intervention on the ground. All that’s needed is to require
the population to show their health passport or else they will not be allowed to cross a
regulated threshold, like accessing a food store, or make a transaction using digital
money unless the AI algorithm permits it. If those operating this takeover of humanity
wished then to eliminate a portion of the population, with plausible deniability, I doubt
a more propitious starting point could be had.

I do not believe it’s a fault in those who fall for the narrative that they cannot see the
lies. People want to believe that governments and experts, for all their well-known flaws
and occasionally uncovered corruption, are trying to do the best they can. They cannot
accept the truth, that there is a group of powerful people who regard the ordinary
members of the public as surplus to requirements. $ey want to deny evil because it makes
them feel bad, sad, and uncomfortable to think about the world this way. $ey want to
deny reality; that’s their coping mechanism, which is being exploited by the perpetrators of
evil. It gives a cloak of invisibility to those who want to commit mass murder, quite
literally, since so many people are so willing to imagine that it is not happening.
It is not clear to me what to do with the information I’ve gathered here. I believe that a
calm review of the summary that I call “The Covid Lies” will result in any open-minded
person agreeing that we all have been subjected to a monstrous fraud with lethal
consequences, and that there is overwhelming evidence of long-term planning and
deliberately injurious acts. There is no easy way to say that, but it could be represented
objectively and taught, in the manner of a workshop, so that participants get to derive
their own conclusions (albeit being led by the evidence).

I doubt just talking to a group of people who hold the dominant narrative view as “true”
would respond at all well to this, delivered as a lecture. Nobody wants to accept that
they’ve been fooled, even if the blow is softened by telling them that this has been
brought about by highly experienced professionals in the covert services and has
required huge amounts of money to buy o# several groups. On the positive side, an
increasing number of people have detected that fraud is ongoing. A particularly good
example comes from the financial analyst community and refers to life insurance
claims among many other pieces of evidence of wrong-doing.

Ignoring this and hoping it will go away is naïve and very dangerous for us all. The
perpetrators have not gone away and will likely return in the fall. I expect this year or
the next will see them assume totalitarian tyranny, if we have not, before then,
“inoculated” important stakeholder groups to understand what has happened so far and
cautioned them to be alert to the many potential presentations of the next fear provoking episode.

Best wishes and thanks for reading.

Vicki
Vicki
June 20, 2022 2:31 pm

For those who think the theories about dark forces behind the Covid 19/vax events are fanciful (& I confess I still struggle with the possibility of evil behind the whole saga) we should be aware that Dr. Mike Yeadon, ex Pfizer immunologist & author of “The Covid Lies”, recently fled his home in the UK to Florida. He was convinced that his life was in danger as a result of his revelations about the violation of all safety standards in the emergency release of the vaccines. Likewise, Dr. Robert Malone disclosed last year that he had been advised by security experts that he needed to attend to personal security.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
June 20, 2022 2:33 pm

And then there is an LPR perspective that owns even the Armchair Warlord:

https://wartranslated.com/lpr-blogger-murz-reacts-to-the-fantasy-map-of-the-russian-offensive-shared-by-propagandists/

And Igor Girkin (The officially-sanctioned voice of the powers behind Vlad Bae’s throne, and certainly far more dedicated to Russian Success than the Copelord or the vatniks) is similarly uninclined to be excited:

https://wartranslated.com/igor-girkin-operational-situation-on-the-frontline-19-june-2022/

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
June 20, 2022 2:37 pm

Being eyeing off new watches

Super cool looking watch.
~$40k

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
June 20, 2022 2:38 pm

Why do you constantly act like you assume Russia does not have it’s own interests and desires for security? Or that those can be completely ignored?

And since when does Russia having interests or security concerns dictate being surrounded by subservient vassals, amd punishing them like an abhsive spouse if they don’t play along?

Those NATO-manipulated Ukrainians had every opportunity to try taking Russia’s western oblasts by fair means or foul since 1991, and never did once. Not even in the Maidan era.

Notice how most nations at least make noises of disapproval if China or anyone else in the world does the same thing?

What makes the Russians any extra special in that regard?

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
June 20, 2022 2:41 pm

Colorbond (yes, that’s the brand spelling) is engineered to need ongoing re-coating after 15 years.
Many- ie all- local governments have banned galvanized iron anywhere near a road or street.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 20, 2022 2:41 pm

Big Trannie

*shudder* No Big Banana though.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 20, 2022 2:41 pm

$25m for a flag pole. Indigenous engineers don’t come cheap.

Kamilaroi woman Cheree Toka raised just over $300,000 towards the cost of the flagpole, so there’s only a bit over $24,000,000 for the taxpayers to fund.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 20, 2022 2:43 pm

St Jacinda gave nz tv broadcasters NZD$50m at the start of the nightmare. Granted it’s only kiwibucks, but it was a rotten bit of propaganda pump priming for a population which were getting locked in their homes indefinitely.

At least 1/3 of the ads on the local commercial station are some sort of government or ‘charity” type.

Big brass bouncing ones if you want to challenge the narrative.

….
Im about to Judge Mordy myself…

$25m for a flag pole. Indigenous engineers don’t come cheap.

Look, for a crash program to advance from the stone age, zip past coppersmithing/bronze and iron ages and hit alloy steels all in less than a year $25 million is a steal.

duncanm
duncanm
June 20, 2022 2:44 pm

Fortunately Omicron is roughly equal to the common cold, so it doesn’t really matter much.

Having just gone through a bout of the latest variant.. it was more of the mild flu scale of severity for me. Worse than a cold but not bed ridden. Worst part of it was the coughing.

duncanm
duncanm
June 20, 2022 2:46 pm

Will the flag be lowered to half mast along with the two other flags for important events like the death of the Queen, etc.?

will be lowered upon the death of important aboriginals.. though you can’t mention them after death, so maybe not.

The Aboriginals using flags is cultural appropriation at it worst.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 20, 2022 2:47 pm

Igor Girkin in his comments that I’ve read seems fairly pissed off with everyone. I don’t blame him, even though I dislike all the ethnic causes floating around in Donbas like mid 20thC miasmas.

I don’t know what the idea about Kharkov is about since there’s nothing much to gain and the Ukrainians aren’t actually threatening to go over the border (thereby giving Vlad an excuse to nuke Kiev). In the Kherson area I can see a strategic need, since they so depleted the front in that area to get the odds in the SD sector that the Ukrainians have been infiltrating with some success lately.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
June 20, 2022 2:47 pm

Bluey, Indonesia has shared a not dissimilar brand of paranoid and militant nationalism to Russia’s since its independence from the Netherlands in 1947. Now this is historically understandable, since it did fight for its independence and most of its big neighbours were perceived as initially sympathetic towards the Dutch. Their early flirtations with communism and military authoritarianism didn’t help things much, either…

And yet, it hasn’t invaded and annexed PNG (as opposed to West Papua), reinvaded and razed East Timor or threatened to bomb Darwin (nor did it in 1999) every time something goes against it or one of its own island populations insists on going and doing something different to Jakarta’s wishes.

And nobody runs around treating them with kid gloves or demanding same because of 2 collapsed empires.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 20, 2022 2:48 pm

Person with no hope confirms there is no hope left to lose… while trying to sound hopeful.

Yellen says US recession not ‘inevitable’ but expects ‘economy to slow’

She has some magic beans??

Joe Biden’s treasury secretary Janet Yellen says she expects “the economy to slow” but continued insisting that a full-blown recession is not “at all inevitable”.

Yellen’s remarks on Sunday came days after the US central bank moved to sharply raise interest rates in an effort to contain soaring inflation.

She told ABC’s This Week host George Stephanopoulous that her financial outlook results from how the economy has “been growing at a very rapid rate, as the economy, as the labor market, has recovered and we have reached full employment”.

“It’s natural now that we expect a transition to steady and stable growth, but I don’t think a recession is at all inevitable,” Yellen added.
Pressed on the issue of inflation, which polls indicate is a top priority for US voters as the midterm elections in November approach, Yellen said inflation causes are global, not local, and those factors are unlikely to diminish immediately.

Yellen said some trade tariffs on China inherited from the administration of former President Donald Trump made “no strategic sense”. She added that Biden was reviewing them as a way to bring down inflation.

America STRONK!

Looking ahead to Biden’s scheduled – and highly controversial – visit to Saudi Arabia next month, Granholm said the president “has asked for all suppliers around the globe to increase production”.

The planned trip has become a lightning rod for criticism as it appears to be a reversal of the president’s stated intent to make the kingdom a “pariah” over its human-rights record, including the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi, which the CIA concluded was ordered by Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman.

Granholm said Biden is “very concerned” about human rights in Saudi Arabia and surely will raise the issue, “but he’s also very concerned about what people are experiencing at the pump and Saudi Arabia is head of OPEC”.

Trannys, trannys everywhere.

In a rare one-on-one interview last week, Biden set out his administration’s public line.

“First of all, it’s not inevitable,” he said to the Associated Press. “Secondly, we’re in a stronger position than any nation in the world to overcome this inflation.”

As clouds gathered over the US economic position during the past 18 months, administration economic officials and central bankers have reformed their inflation message from “transitory” to an economy, as Deese said, that is “in a transition.”

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
June 20, 2022 2:51 pm

I don’t know what the idea about Kharkov is about since there’s nothing much to gain and the Ukrainians aren’t actually threatening to go over the border

Ukrainian advances to the northwest put Vovchansk and the railway lines from Belgorod within artillery range. All the critical rail links between the occupied Luhansk oblast and supply dumps and transport links in Russia are one decent advance from being interdicted if the Ukes get past Staryi Saltiv and Vovchansk.

It also gets them over the Severskyi Donets river, presently protecting the Russian’s Western flank in Luhansk.

sfw
sfw
June 20, 2022 2:52 pm

Wally Dali, it’s difficult to get real galvanised iron nowdays, I think you mean zincalume. Where did you get the info that ‘Colorbond’ has to be recoated every 15 years?

Vicki
Vicki
June 20, 2022 2:55 pm

Two of the finest Covid frontline physicians in the US – Dr. Pierre Kory & cardiologist Dr. Peter Mc Cullough – are in danger of losing their medical licence to practice after they have vehemently opposed the imprimatur to vaccinate babies with the genetic vaccines. We have to ask the questions – not merely WHY the medical technocracy would want to vaccinate babies who historically are not catching the virus, but WHY are they SO determined to vaccinate them?

Pierre Kory, MD MPA
@PierreKory
I also got a letter from ABIM detailing multiple public statements I made as misinformation (from whoever they hired to investigate me). I have massive evidence to support each statement. Bring it on ABIM, err, I mean FBI. Didn’t know investigating docs was part of your mission.

Peter McCullough, MD MPH
@P_McCulloughMD

Calling out ABIM, AMA, medical societies and boards! Come out of the propaganda shadows and face me and my colleagues in the open; lets get it on with a fair review of pandemic data, therapies, and the mandated products . A call from the days of yore! http://youtu.be/DRVEh6vNsxA

Delta A
Delta A
June 20, 2022 2:55 pm

SBS Viceland is running a continuous NZ rail trip … hours on end.
Riveting stuff.

They run that show often, along with The Ghan trip from Alice Springs to Adelaide. There are others from OS lines.

Great viewing* for train addicts.

*The first time. Gets a tad monotonous after that.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 20, 2022 2:57 pm

The Russian parliament has for weeks been discussing whether to revoke Lithuania’s independence

Um
It doesn’t work like that.

It does when you’re using a disposable proxy to remind the West that you’re a crazy mad bastard with nuclear weapons – who just might take a swing at a NATO country.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 20, 2022 2:58 pm

Being eyeing off new watches

Not sure I could drop $40k on one. They are cool though. For something under the radar have a look at ochs and juniour.

Diogenes
Diogenes
June 20, 2022 3:02 pm

$25m for a flag pole. Indigenous engineers don’t come cheap.

Should insist that it is made using indigenous materials(ie bits of bark, sticks and twigs) only

Roger
Roger
June 20, 2022 3:02 pm

It doesn’t work like that.

That sounds just like Merkel when Putin annexed Crimea.

P
P
June 20, 2022 3:08 pm

Kamilaroi woman Cheree Toka raised just over $300,000 towards the cost of the flagpole, so there’s only a bit over $24,000,000 for the taxpayers to fund.

This is her twitter

calli
calli
June 20, 2022 3:09 pm

Colorbond (yes, that’s the brand spelling) is engineered to need ongoing re-coating after 15 years.

I did not know about the re-coat. The longevity of the surface would depend on environmental conditions.

I do know that the fixings need replacing every 20-25 years because the rubber gaskets perish. I would probably want to do the lot in one go. It has been done around here and looks great. Many people think it lasts forever. Wrong.

John Sheldrick
June 20, 2022 3:09 pm

The Aboriginals using flags is cultural appropriation at it worst.

Good observation. I don’t seem to recollect reading about any aboriginal flags that the tribes had in Captain Cooks journals or from writings of the early history of Sydney and the NSW Penal Colony. An obvious oversight perhaps………………………

Talking of cultural appropriation, so is the term “First Nations” people. Stolen from the Canadian indigenous people with no acknowledgement whatsoever. Copy cats and not very ab (original)…………….

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 20, 2022 3:10 pm

Twitter has the footage of the DC shooting from the Juneteeth celebrations.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 20, 2022 3:12 pm

Is Dot/John Sheldrick the same person?
I can’t keep up.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 20, 2022 3:15 pm

For those of modest means, a new motorbike you can get with your tax refund..

Let us help you push out of your comfort zone* this EOFY, and get you exploring the great outdoors** for the promotional price of $7,990 ride away (for a strictly limited time)! The Himalayan is one of Australia’s top-selling Adventure Bikes*** equipped with Tripper Navigation**** and switchable ABS. Get peace of mind knowing that the Himalayan is backed with a 3 year factory warranty and 3 year roadside assistance.*****

By the looks of the promo pic the exhaust runs directly up through the seat.

https://royalenfield.com.au/product-news/himalayan-eofy-offer/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwkruVBhCHARIsACVIiOyo4KM4bRNlj4ZmB6sLzO6bxS_RjNtJwfqz2G-c5sjmOjncWgi4zxgaAgOEEALw_wcB

*Is uncomfortable
** Walking alongside the road hoping for a lift?
*** There are others?
**** As in ‘I had some of the brown acid and ended up in Malaya”
***** If you can find someone you understand on the assistance line.

Bluey
Bluey
June 20, 2022 3:16 pm

Rex Angersays:
June 20, 2022 at 2:38 pm
Why do you constantly act like you assume Russia does not have it’s own interests and desires for security? Or that those can be completely ignored?

And since when does Russia having interests or security concerns dictate being surrounded by subservient vassals, amd punishing them like an abhsive spouse if they don’t play along?

Those NATO-manipulated Ukrainians had every opportunity to try taking Russia’s western oblasts by fair means or foul since 1991, and never did once. Not even in the Maidan era.

Notice how most nations at least make noises of disapproval if China or anyone else in the world does the same thing?

What makes the Russians any extra special in that regard?

Why is it unreasonable for Russia to insist the country directly on it’s boarder not join a hostile alliance? People claim NATO is defensive, but you can point to Libya, Serbia, Afghanistan etc.

Although it doesn’t really matter discussing any of this any more. Russia must win, because the west has made it clear if they don’t the end state is be destroyed. There is no off ramp with diplomacy or a limited annexation and letting a rump state go. Russia has to completely destroy Ukraine as it was.

The couple of articles you linked, where are the videos of the Russian refuseniks? Where is the evidence those T-62 tanks went anywhere other than DPR/LPR units? Pretty much every claim against the Russians have ended up being proved wrong. Remember they were going to run out of ammunition?
Even the British media releasing casualty figures for the Russian side implied their losses are far less than claimed. ~20,000 KIA total between the 3, with the bulk being LPR/DPR.

I expect it will be a conflict that drags on, slowly grinding western supplies and the Ukrainian forces to dust. That’s if NATO don’t escalate. Tragic, but nothing I can do about it but shake my head at the waste of it all.

rickw
rickw
June 20, 2022 3:21 pm

Why is it unreasonable for Russia to insist the country directly on it’s boarder not join a hostile alliance

Australia WRT to Solomons and PNG.

calli
calli
June 20, 2022 3:22 pm

Don’t be fooled by the “Royal” in Royal Enfield.

They are the Mahindra of motorbikes.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
June 20, 2022 3:24 pm

It actually arises from a deep and abiding suspicion and scepticism of US foreign policy generated by the history of the last two decades which isn’t going to go away simply by means of repeated incantations of ‘agency’, ‘independence’, and so on, as if they weren’t being made the previous two decades as well.

But it’s OK when Russia does it cos anti-Americanism.

OK…

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 20, 2022 3:24 pm

asiancrimereport on twitter @activeasian shows the real state of plan in US metro.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
June 20, 2022 3:26 pm

A cult is an unsuccessful religion. So unsuccessful it forbids people from leaving.

The woke cult also attacks heretics very forcefully, even when they’ve never subscribed to any of the cult’s mad ideas. They also seem to be making converts at an astonishing rate, including from the church of England, and they’ve got the pope halfway there.

John Sheldrick
June 20, 2022 3:31 pm

Is Dot/John Sheldrick the same person?
I can’t keep up.

LOL. Well, I am me and I don’t know any Dots. I just know how to join up the dots.

No need to keep up at all. Just go with the flow as they say…………………………………..

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 20, 2022 3:34 pm

Bluey says:
June 20, 2022 at 3:16 pm

Russia must win, because the west has made it clear if they don’t the end state is be destroyed. There is no off ramp with diplomacy or a limited annexation and letting a rump state go. Russia has to completely destroy Ukraine as it was.

You’d have to think this is the case – at least militarily.

Russia can go on suffering for as long as it needs while it sorts out its Ukraine military objectives to Poot’s satisfaction. At some point, however, the West will find a way to back away from supplying arms and ammunition to Zelenski – possibly at the end of a threat of escalation, for which it’s not ready.

However, on the diplomatic, trade, defence and economic front the long-term consequences for Putin’s Russia haven’t really started.

“Win” is a very subjective term.

Gab
Gab
June 20, 2022 3:36 pm

Francis’s revolution to wreck the Church.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PItShEtT2N0

John Sheldrick
June 20, 2022 3:37 pm

Why is it unreasonable for Russia to insist the country directly on it’s boarder not join a hostile alliance

Australia WRT to Solomons and PNG.

Turkey is rather close to the Russian Federation and Alaska isn’t far away either. Finland was never going to join NATO, however, after recent events may well do so. Good move Putin. What is your next chess move? Resign?

Bruce in WA
June 20, 2022 3:45 pm

We did have at the Naval College a female trainee officer who refused to fire her rifle at the target because it was shaped like a human.

You are not allowed to have a silhouette (or any humanoid) target on any SSAA range.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 20, 2022 3:46 pm

Listening to Offspring.

Whatever happened to Ricki lake, the trailer park version of Oprah?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
June 20, 2022 3:47 pm

The couple of articles you linked, where are the videos of the Russian refuseniks? Where is the evidence those T-62 tanks went anywhere other than DPR/LPR units?

Have a read of the rest of https://wartranslated.com/ to find more on which you seek. The Russian Channels entry will give you some more:
https://wartranslated.com/category/russian-accounts/

The cited guy was from the separatist LPR, using ukrainian and russian-language sources. A lot of which you won’t find on english language internet sites without someone crossposting and translating them.

Also, look here for Russian and Ukrainian telegram channels and translation:

https://osintukraine.com/

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
June 20, 2022 3:59 pm

I’m doing nothing of the sort. But there’s something instructive re the above, you think opposition to escalation from part of the Right, whether from postliberals, paleocons, and the like, is simply a function of partisanship, ‘Because US Democrats’. This couldn’t be further from the truth.

Dover, a person citing anyone on the Right opposing escalation of a war or diplomatic spat, should be doing it as a general principle of all men and nations being free to choose their own way, uncoerced.

Make excuses for one blatantly imperialist power over a small nation, because you decided you didn’t like another blatantly imperialist power doing it the way you have, is by definition partisan.

Either crushing those weaker than you underfoot because it makes you feel better is acceptable for everyone, or it is acceptable for no-one.

Kneel
Kneel
June 20, 2022 4:00 pm

“…This couldn’t be further from the truth. It actually arises from a deep and abiding suspicion and scepticism of US foreign policy generated by the history of the last two decades which isn’t going to go away simply by means of repeated incantations of ‘agency’, …”

Exactly. The US freaked out over nuclear missiles in Cuba, the Europeans freaked out whenever the USSR was having “war games” near their borders, etc etc.
Now, the USSR is no more, and Russia is arguably weaker because of that, yet they aren’t allowed to freak out when the US, with at least 3 times the military budget of Russia, decides to use it’s own “reserve currency” status to bribe the Uke’s into “poking the bear”? Even after years of them doing this and the Russians complaining about it diplomatically? Even when the Uke’s are talking about joining the EU and/or NATO against the terms of their own independence? When the US and EU are both saying “Come join us” to the Uke’s, while continuing with the “Russia bad, hmmmkay?” bullshit?
They MUST have known that at some point, Russia would say “Enough!” and “snap”. But they kept going anyway – against a country that changed from communism to capitalism, just like they said they wanted. Sure, VERY crony-capitalist, but that could have been changed with co-operation and time. Oh, that’s right – “We’ve always been at war with Eurasia!”. Or, perhaps more appropriately, “Two legs bad, four legs better” – they are, after all, just pigs with their snouts in the trough, looking out for themselves and wanting to “control” you by fear of something. Anything will do. If COVID won’t work, let’s just poke the bear and get it to react, that’s always worked before, right?

I feel sorry for the Uke’s – for most of them, they got plundered by the USSR, then they thought they were free but got plundered by the US and EU, now they have a war that, just like Vietnam, will destroy their country to absolutely no benefit and likely great detriment to them, while multinational companies make a profit selling the tools of war that do the damage, strip mining any and all assets those poor people have, and destroying what can’t be sold.

Lysander
Lysander
June 20, 2022 4:06 pm

I haven’t got the linky but Cruz made the FBI look pretty stupid in the Jan 6 “hearings.” One agent gives the game away by, for two solid minutes, answering “I cannot answer that.”

The DoJ and FBI who have raided Project Veritas CEO’s house and have done nothing on death threats and demonstrations at SCJs houses is the most worrying (and worse) thing since Obama used the IRS to target conservatives….

m0nty
m0nty
June 20, 2022 4:09 pm

It is funny how the right has come a complete 180 since Iraq, and are arguing exactly the same way as the most anti-HoWARd hippies from 20 and 30 years ago.

shatterzzz
June 20, 2022 4:11 pm

Why would FOODBANK end up with these products? .. they usually end up at auction(s) where the $2 shops & Reject shop operations get a lot of their stock ..
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-20/sa-foodbank-theft/101167610

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
June 20, 2022 4:12 pm

crushing those weaker than you underfoot

Yes. It is good to be the king.

Kneel
Kneel
June 20, 2022 4:13 pm

“It is funny how the right has come a complete 180 since …”

It’s funny how the left used to be “make love, not war”, but are now baying for more weapons, and more bloodshed – just so long as it’s not THEIR blood being spilled, and the weapons aren’t pointed at them.

I support the latest thing.

Vicki
Vicki
June 20, 2022 4:13 pm

Future generations (I hope) will find it curious how, in the century of Stalin and Hitler, we have been so eager to deny man’s capacity for evil.

— Theodore Dalrymple

Today’s Liberty quotation is very relevant to my struggle with determining whether evil is, indeed, having a field day in world events of late.

Kneel
Kneel
June 20, 2022 4:15 pm

“…my struggle with determining whether how much evil is, indeed, having a field day in world events of late.”

FIFY.

cohenite
June 20, 2022 4:16 pm

Why there are so many arseholes in the world: Mr Inbetween:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ACoKLYaIO0

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 20, 2022 4:25 pm

The Coalition will hold the most seats in the Senate with 32, Labor will hold 26 seats and the Greens have 12.

Rounding out the rest of the Senate, the Jacqui Lambie Network and One Nation have two seats, respectively, and the United Australia Party has one. The last seat will be held by independent David Pocock.

Labor will need all 12 Greens, plus at least 1 crossbencher, to get a 39-vote majority

From the AFR.

Roger
Roger
June 20, 2022 4:28 pm

Labor will need all 12 Greens, plus at least 1 crossbencher, to get a 39-vote majority

Good luck, Mr. Wong.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
June 20, 2022 4:30 pm

So you’ve slipped from anyone that opposes US interventionism presently must be ‘anti-Democrat’ to ‘anti-American’.

Funny how you have never said a word about Donald Trump agreeing to sending Javelins and other lethal aid and training assistance between 2016 and 2020 (where Barack Obama refused to do anything beyond promises in 2014-15), if it’s all really about opposing American foreign policy.

A problem with this is the conflation of liberal interventionism/ neo-conservatism with America.

But you just did this yourself by talking about how you’re operating out of skepticism towards 20-odd years of American foreign policy. You have talked incessantly about Victoria Nuland, Kimberley Kagan and so forth in alleging US/NATO manipulations regarding Maidan. But never seem to mention any non-Democrat folks in the process, despite 2002-2008 being Republican presidencies…

You can oppose the former without opposing the latter.

Funny how my saying exactly the same thing about opposition to the current US government but wanting to see Russian adventurism and attempts to occupy and destroy Ukraine checked, was subjected to all manner of opposition and denunciation from yourself and others.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
June 20, 2022 4:31 pm

Francis’s revolution to wreck the Church.

That was really good, Gab. It’s so good to see ppl fighting back against evil.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
June 20, 2022 4:31 pm

m0ntysays:
June 20, 2022 at 4:09 pm
It is funny how the right has come a complete 180 since Iraq, and are arguing exactly the same way as the most anti-HoWARd hippies from 20 and 30 years ago.

In what way? It was believed (rightly or wrongly) that Iraq under Saddam Hussein posed a threat to the west via WMD and sponsorship of terrorists, and therefore that getting rid of him was a good thing. What’s the correlative now about which “the right” are taking a contrary view?

shatterzzz
June 20, 2022 4:31 pm

The Aboriginals using flags is cultural appropriation at it worst.

Not quite as bad as wearing “whitey” style clothing (shirts, pants even footwear!) .. LOL!

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
June 20, 2022 4:31 pm

Why there are so many a******* in the world: Mr Inbetween:

Don’t mess with Mr In Between.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
June 20, 2022 4:33 pm

Dover, if you are not happy with having someone poke at the justifications you have chosen for yourself regarding Russia trying to do to another nation something you’d never accept if the USA or some other bigger power tried it on someone else, you do possess a final veto.

If you choose to use it, I thank you for allowing me the privilege of posting and interacting on this site for the time you have hosted it.

It’s been a good time, and I wish you and the Cats all the best.

Lysander
Lysander
June 20, 2022 4:33 pm

Labor will need all 12 Greens, plus at least 1 crossbencher, to get a 39-vote majority

“You admire this Wallace. He has courage, so does a dog. But it is man’s ability to compromise and negotiate that makes him noble.”

A line from Braveheart. I always think of the Greens.

MatrixTransform
June 20, 2022 4:35 pm

crushing those weaker than you underfoot

but I was told the Ukes were winning

shatterzzz
June 20, 2022 4:36 pm

Labor will need all 12 Greens, plus at least 1 crossbencher, to get a 39-vote majority
Your hoping the Liberals will be on the “nays” side, then? .. 12 Greens + Pocock getz 39 .. LOL!

bespoke
bespoke
June 20, 2022 4:38 pm

DrBeauGansays:
June 20, 2022 at 4:31 pm
Francis’s revolution to wreck the Church.

That was really good, Gab. It’s so good to see ppl fighting back against evil.

Stay out of it, it’s not our fight.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 20, 2022 4:41 pm

With reference to Origin, Freddy is making the same mistake for game II as he did in game I.
He’s naming a team a response to what he thinks QLD will do.
He’s coaching not to lose, not coaching to win.
Addo-Carr needed to be in that team.

But who knows if the team he’s announced today will be the same as the one that runs out in Perth on Sunday night.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
June 20, 2022 4:42 pm

Stay out of it, it’s not our fight.

It’s the duty of every decent man and woman to stand up for what’s right.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 20, 2022 4:42 pm

m0ntysays:
June 20, 2022 at 4:09 pm
It is funny how the right has come a complete 180 since Iraq, and are arguing exactly the same way as the most anti-HoWARd hippies from 20 and 30 years ago.

And even funnier how the anti-HoWARd hippies from 20 and 30 years ago have come a complete 180 since Iraq, and are arguing exactly the same way as the right from 20 and 30 years ago.

Strangely, you do not seem to be celebrating the move by the right, nor condemning that by the hippies. It seems that the right is capable of learning, the fascist left less so.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 20, 2022 4:43 pm

The Paywallian tiptoeing through eggshells with comments on FINA and trannies. Naturally I was on the wrong side of the fence and the article now closed to comments.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 20, 2022 4:43 pm

Why would FOODBANK end up with these products? .. they usually end up at auction(s) where the $2 shops & Reject shop operations get a lot of their stock

I do a weekly shop for a charity at a Foodbank in Brisbane. Its fairly common for non-food things to cycle through. Over the past few months I’ve seen perfumes, body lotions, hair dyes, artist paint, kids toys, coat hangers, and crockery.

Apparently it usually lands at Foodbank as a part of a load of past use-by-date goods donated by one of the supermarket chains – so presumably a storeman somewhere says “Fuckit, let that one go too…

It gets taken up eventually and presumably distributed, or sold off at charity opshops.

It can become a pain when you are shopping for food and limited pallet space is taken up by slow-moving non-food goods that sit there for weeks.

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 20, 2022 4:44 pm

Greens leader Adam Bandt has refused to stand next to the Australian flag, telling reporters it is a “hurtful” symbol to many Indigenous Australians.

A Greens staffer moved the flag out of view ahead of Mr Bandt’s press conference in Sydney on Monday.

“For many people, this flag represents dispossession and the lingering pains of colonisation,” Mr Bandt said.

“Through Treaty with First Nations’ People and by moving to a Republic, we can have a flag that represents all of us.”

Pretty good in a way. Will confirm to viewers that Bandt is a traitor, and wants to tear down everything.

John Sheldrick
June 20, 2022 4:45 pm

Why there are so many arseholes in the world: Mr Inbetween:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ACoKLYaIO0

That is such a great message. Thanks for that.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 20, 2022 4:45 pm

Naturally I was on the wrong side of the fence and the article now closed to comments.

Wrecker.
Demanding special races for bears with no visible genitalia?

MatrixTransform
June 20, 2022 4:45 pm

It’s been a good time, and I wish you and the Cats all the best.

bye Rex

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 20, 2022 4:47 pm

Wait till I get my times down and front up on the pooldeck.

John Sheldrick
June 20, 2022 4:52 pm

Greens leader Adam Bandt has refused to stand next to the Australian flag, telling reporters it is a “hurtful” symbol to many Indigenous Australians.

A Greens staffer moved the flag out of view ahead of Mr Bandt’s press conference in Sydney on Monday.

“For many people, this flag represents dispossession and the lingering pains of colonisation,” Mr Bandt said.

“Through Treaty with First Nations’ People and by moving to a Republic, we can have a flag that represents all of us.”

Pretty good in a way. Will confirm to viewers that Bandt is a traitor, and wants to tear down everything.

What is so funny is that the current Australian flag was introduced when Australia was federated in 1901. So no longer all those Colonies and no more colonisation. And doesn’t Adam Piss Ant have to swear in at a swearing in process for Parliament? What a piss ant hypocrite.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 20, 2022 4:53 pm

Greens leader Adam Bandt has refused to stand next to the Australian flag, telling reporters it is a “hurtful” symbol to many Indigenous Australians.

I, , do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second, Her heirs and successors according to law. SO HELP ME GOD!

bespoke
bespoke
June 20, 2022 4:53 pm

It’s the duty of every decent man and woman to stand up for what’s right.

The usual glib bombastic tripe.
Stop being lazy, DrBG.
They do not need outside shit stirrers.

calli
calli
June 20, 2022 4:55 pm

Rex, I’ve enjoyed your comments on Ukraine. It has been refreshing to have a different perspective on the issue.

I don’t see why you have to stop just because you and Dover disagree. It isn’t a hanging offence to think differently. The last thing we want here is everyone patting each other on the back and nodding wisely regardless of some glaring inconsistencies.

For myself, the whole thing is so complex that I’m forced to go back to a simple principle – Don’t invade your neighbour. It is wrong.

P
P
June 20, 2022 4:57 pm

A Greens staffer moved the flag out of view ahead of Mr Bandt’s press conference in Sydney on Monday.

Australians fought in two World Wars under the Union Jack with so many giving their lives for the freedom of those past, present and future.

Lysander
Lysander
June 20, 2022 4:59 pm

m0ntysays:
June 20, 2022 at 4:09 pm
It is funny how the right has come a complete 180 since Iraq, and are arguing exactly the same way as the most anti-HoWARd hippies from 20 and 30 years ago.

Says the one who is as consistent as diarrhea.

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 20, 2022 4:59 pm

…Indigenous leader Warren Mundine.

“It’s idiotic,” Mundine said.

“Are the Greens actually in the Australian Federal Parliament? Seriously? Do they actually hate Australians that much,” he asked.

“Aboriginals call themselves Australians all the time.

“The Greens are just a fringe university type group trying to run down the country.”

Cassie of Sydney
June 20, 2022 5:00 pm

“If you choose to use it, I thank you for allowing me the privilege of posting and interacting on this site for the time you have hosted it.

It’s been a good time, and I wish you and the Cats all the best.”

What on earth are you talking about Rex? Everyone here has had disagreements with each other. Don’t you dare go anywhere.

calli
calli
June 20, 2022 5:00 pm

Also, if you are going to push off, it has to be to this.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 20, 2022 5:00 pm

A Greens staffer moved the flag out of view ahead of Mr Bandt’s press conference in Sydney on Monday.

Oh he gives good politics.
Long & slow.
Just how his base likes it.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
June 20, 2022 5:01 pm

bye Rex

Don’t get too excited, Matrix.

It’s the owner’s choice to press the Big Red Button.

Not mine.

Cassie of Sydney
June 20, 2022 5:02 pm

“It is funny how the right has come a complete 180 since Iraq, and are arguing exactly the same way as the most anti-HoWARd hippies from 20 and 30 years ago.”

Yeah…it’s funny how the left has done a complete 180 since Iraq and now supports war, big pharma,
and big business.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
June 20, 2022 5:02 pm

Also, if you are going to push off, it has to be to this

I do confess to doing this at least once.

It is very hard to achieve with just a single note horn…

Vicki
Vicki
June 20, 2022 5:03 pm

The rationale that the FDA and CDC give for continuing to promote the emergency use of vaccines is truly bizarre. Last year a supervisor, Brook Jackson, was dismissed by her RCT (Randomised Clinical Trial) employer (Ventavia) when she disclosed that data provided to Pfizer was “unblinded”, in addition to other sloppy procedures. When Jackson brought a case of unfair dismissal before the court, her employer argued that “fraud” had not been committed because the client knew about the unblinding!!!!

This court proceeding SHOULD bring down the whole pack of cards – but, given the horrific deterioration of the standards of probity at the highest levels – it probably won’t. But this lady – Brook Jackson – deserves a medal. She has stood up when most others have fled the field.

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 20, 2022 5:03 pm

They breed ’em weird in Melbourne:

The identity of the alleged grave robber accused of stealing human remains from a Footscray cemetery has been unmasked for the first time.

The Herald Sun can also reveal Spotswood man Tristan Hearne, 40, previously posted images online showing an interest in graves, skulls, vampires, ghosts and zombies.

Mr Hearne was charged in March by detectives over the alleged disturbance of two grave sites in Footscray earlier this year, it can be revealed.

The Herald Sun understands one human skull was found inside his bedroom, while another was buried in a garden bed outside the Mary St home he was renting a room at.

It can also be revealed the man was working as an Uber driver at the time of the alleged grave thefts.

Disturbing social media content provides new insights into Mr Hearne’s interests and state of mind in the years leading up to the alleged thefts.

In September 2020 he posted an image online from Shakespeare’s Hamlet involving a skull with the caption: “This above all: to thine own self be true”.

The skull is used in the iconic play as a symbol to portray the futility of life and inevitability of death.

Mr Hearne also posted dozens of photos he had taken from a visit to Kew’s Boroondara General Cemetery in May 2020.

He left a review online following the excursion saying it was “beautiful, enchanting and very special”.

He has also posted online about his love for the 1980s movie Vampire Hunter D as well as books from his childhood including “Usborne Guide to the Supernatural World” which featured a skull on the cover and “The World of the Unknown Ghosts”.

Mr Hearne was charged with six offences including two counts of removing body parts from the corpse of a human being, exhuming or removing human remains from place of interment and criminal damage.

Maribyrnong Crime Investigation unit detectives allege human heads were stolen from mausoleums in two separate incidents at Footscray General Cemetery between January 27 and February 1.

Mr Hearne has not been linked to either of the victims, whose mausoleums were left badly damaged and coffins open in plain view of mourners.

His landlord declined to comment but it is understood she ordered Mr Hearne to vacate the rental following his arrest.

Mr Hearne declined to comment and is due to face the Melbourne Magistrates’ Court on August 17.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 20, 2022 5:03 pm

It’s been a good time, and I wish you and the Cats all the best.”

You motor boating sonofabitch.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 20, 2022 5:04 pm

… regarding Russia trying to do to another nation something you’d never accept if the USA or some other bigger power tried it on someone else, …

1.Ukraine isn’t a Nation, it’s bandit territory

2. Yeah, the United States slaughtered millions of Filipinos in the Spanish American War, untold numbers of Indios in the Banana Wars for United Fruit [now Chiquita], millions of Vietnamese, huge numbers of Iraqis and Afghans for no fucking reason at all.

3. There’s been a War in the Donbas for 8 years, 100,000+ people have been murdered by the Ukrainian Government, the Country is next door to Russia, and Russia intervened to stop the war.
The End

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 20, 2022 5:05 pm

Never go full flounce, Rex.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
June 20, 2022 5:06 pm

Is Iran ‘free’ to develop nuclear weapons?

Is Israel responding to Iran’s nuclear program with precision strikes ‘making excuses’?

Their actions in both cases prove my point. Iran has continued to pursue such things despite every effort to stop or slow them, and Israel could have been cowed by international pressure to be nice to all its Arab neighbours despite their provocations and attacks and not antagonise them by bombing the Osirak reactor in Iraq in 1981, but did so anyway.

Winston Smith
June 20, 2022 5:07 pm

Lysander:

The DoJ and FBI who have raided Project Veritas CEO’s house and have done nothing on death threats and demonstrations at SCJs houses is the most worrying (and worse) thing since Obama used the IRS to target conservatives….

And that’s the guts of it.
The enemy at the gates can be beaten.
The traitors inside the walls are the real menace.
Purge them now or die in the ruins.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
June 20, 2022 5:07 pm

There’s been a War in the Donbas for 8 years, 100,000+ people have been murdered by the Ukrainian Government, the Country is next door to Russia, and Russia intervened to stop the war.

The war they started, Grigory.

You are not a very good current events troll.

bespoke
bespoke
June 20, 2022 5:07 pm

callisays:
June 20, 2022 at 2:15 pm
A religion is a cult which has been successful.

A cult is an unsuccessful religion. So unsuccessful it forbids people from leaving.

Newcatallaxy

calli
calli
June 20, 2022 5:08 pm

Never go full flounce, Rex.

Lol! In keeping with the locomotive theme, that would be set to this!

😀

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 20, 2022 5:08 pm

Yeah…it’s funny how the left has done a complete 180 since Iraq and now supports war, big pharma,
and big business.

What you are calling The Left is actually The Right.
It took over the Tasmanian Greens and the Labor Party 40 years ago.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
June 20, 2022 5:08 pm

Never go full flounce, Rex

Steady on, I haven’t left yet.

Heck, I haven’t even got the card out… 🙁

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
June 20, 2022 5:10 pm

Just got an Error 500 message when I tried to ask Calli and/or Cassie where I find the Golden Flounce Card they once linked to the OldCat.

Does that qualify as a flounce? 🙂

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 20, 2022 5:11 pm

Franger!
fuck off
you’re a blow in

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 20, 2022 5:11 pm

Previous semi-flounces have generated some of the funniest response posts in New Cat history.

Cassie of Sydney
June 20, 2022 5:11 pm

“And that’s the guts of it.
The enemy at the gates can be beaten.
The traitors inside the walls are the real menace.
Purge them now or die in the ruins.”

I’m not usually into purges but there was a very good purge of the Liberal Party on 21 May 2022. It did miss a few though….Paul Fletcher, Andrew Bragg and Simon Birmingham.

Winston Smith
June 20, 2022 5:12 pm

Diesel $2.52/l at the Indian servo this morning.
“The cheapest fuel is the fuel you don’t use.” meme will be coming back with a vengeance.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
June 20, 2022 5:12 pm

What you are calling The Left is actually The Right.

IamGrigory says the Left is the Right, Jesus is the Devil and both get in the way of full and unconstrained capitalism…

(I miss Iampeter. This new sockmonster with his face stapled to it just isn’t the same. And it smells of Gypsum)

dopey
dopey
June 20, 2022 5:12 pm

David Pocock. Quick to the breakdown and won a lot of turnovers, or something. Just what we need in the Senate. Pocock would have lined up many times with his team mates, ‘singing’ the anthem with the Australian flag raised. How could the Greens accept his vote?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 20, 2022 5:14 pm

A Greens staffer moved the flag out of view ahead of Mr Bandt’s press conference in Sydney on Monday.

Bandt would have sworn allegiance to the British crown, in whose name Australia was claimed and colonized to sit in the Senate…stinking, sniveling, rotten, hypocritical little grub.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
June 20, 2022 5:14 pm

Franger!
fuck off
you’re a blow in

Nah.

I’m a blow up.

Look what I just made you do… 🙂 🙂 🙂

***Shit-eating Grin Intensifies***

calli
calli
June 20, 2022 5:16 pm

Here is the Golden Flounce.

Use it wisely, Grasshopper.

MatrixTransform
June 20, 2022 5:16 pm

Don’t get too excited, Matrix.

Rex, you argue like a school-girl and it’s fucking annoying

personally I couldn’t give tosca what you believe about the conflict

before you go … do your CrAzY CaSe trick for full effect

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 20, 2022 5:16 pm

Dickless

1.Ukraine isn’t a Nation, it’s bandit territory

Perfesser Richard Head, LLB, PhD (International Law), our leading politicaleggspurt, has spoken.

Did you clear this statement with Maocolm?

calli
calli
June 20, 2022 5:18 pm

Sometimes this is all you need.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
June 20, 2022 5:20 pm

Their actions in both cases prove my point

‘Free of coercion’ of course does not and can never mean ‘free of consequences,’ as both Iran and Israel’s cases (and our more pertinent examples of an invaded and partially occupied Ukraine and a strategically humiliated but undeterred Russia) demonstrate.

I’m not a progressive ‘liberal…’*

*Ick.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
June 20, 2022 5:21 pm

Sometimes this is all you need.

Nope.

I now need a Fire Extinguisher…

#Wow

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 20, 2022 5:21 pm

Dickless

What you are calling The Left is actually The Right.
It took over the Tasmanian Greens and the Labor Party 40 years ago.

Step away from the bong, and stop adding LSD to it.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
June 20, 2022 5:22 pm

Rex, you argue like a school-girl and it’s fucking annoying

Takes a little bitch to know another one… 😉

Bluey
Bluey
June 20, 2022 5:22 pm

John Sheldricksays:
June 20, 2022 at 3:37 pm
Why is it unreasonable for Russia to insist the country directly on it’s boarder not join a hostile alliance

Australia WRT to Solomons and PNG.

Turkey is rather close to the Russian Federation and Alaska isn’t far away either. Finland was never going to join NATO, however, after recent events may well do so. Good move Putin. What is your next chess move? Resign?

Not directed at you specifically here John, but you reminded me. Turkey and Poland often get cited as being on Russia’s border, but there is a sea and Belarus respectively. They don’t directly share a border, there is a buffer there.
Alaska, well, two sparsely populated areas buffering each other. No doubt heavily monitored, but again, realistically there’s a buffer of the sparsely populated territory.

Rex, I can’t find much beyond individual accounts on that wartranslated site, is there one you can point me to like the Ukrainian ones where whole companies are on video refusing to fight? I read a couple of the claims about not getting rotated, and casualties, but I’ve also seen evidence the Russian units are regularly rotated.

I’m not dismissing out of hand the claims about Russia having trouble, but I am very skeptical because we have been lied to so much over the last few years. Anything that fits the correct narrative gets promoted, that which doesn’t, well, you’ve see how the covid stuff went.

I’ll add one last thing, this article made interesting reading. Fundamentally, the western world cannot fight a full scale conventional conflict. There’s just not the manufacturing capability. The implication for Australia is pretty dire, anyone remember the scratching for ammo for East Timor?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
June 20, 2022 5:26 pm

After all, mighty Struth (whom you say is right, of course) argued with the ‘reason’ and ‘logic’ you like by calling everyone every name he could imagine, declaring truths by assertion alone and dancing around and deflecting from everything he got called out on.

I’m still waiting for him to prove that Wellcamp, Howard Springs and that miserable little abandoned site in Melbourne that never saw a single patient were actually WEF-mandated death camps for the coof-unvaccinated.

So, I’ll stick to the schoolgirl-like arguments in which I make my case, cite evidence, challenge points and so forth.

I much prefer things that way… 🙂

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 20, 2022 5:26 pm

What everyone needs to be concerned about is when the first wave of Thunder Warriors show up.

bespoke
bespoke
June 20, 2022 5:28 pm

I blame the lack of dad jokes.

cohenite
June 20, 2022 5:28 pm

Blast from the past: locals restrain muzzie terrorist after he stabbed 2 women to death in Sydney; from 2019:

https://twitter.com/Andrew_Denney/status/1161134805993439233

Lysander
Lysander
June 20, 2022 5:29 pm

O/t but…

Late last week Perth ABC Radio had three LBGTIXYZ’s on and their main topic of conversation (all in agreement of course) was the threat of conservatism to SSM and XYZ’s rights. They all seriously, including “Hutch” agreed in light of Roe V Wade the threat is real.

Winston Smith
June 20, 2022 5:31 pm

John Sheldrick:

What is so funny is that the current Australian flag was introduced when Australia was federated in 1901. So no longer all those Colonies and no more colonisation. And doesn’t Adam Piss Ant have to swear in at a swearing in process for Parliament? What a piss ant hypocrite.

Just another virtue signalling mong.

Winston Smith
June 20, 2022 5:34 pm

Rex/Calli:

I don’t see why you have to stop just because you and Dover disagree. It isn’t a hanging offence to think differently. The last thing we want here is everyone patting each other on the back and nodding wisely regardless of some glaring inconsistencies.
For myself, the whole thing is so complex that I’m forced to go back to a simple principle – Don’t invade your neighbour. It is wrong.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
June 20, 2022 5:35 pm

Vicki,
Thanks for the link to Mike Yeadons summary of Covid Vax and policy concerns. A good read and one I will keep. Will go back and look at a few of his links.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 20, 2022 5:36 pm

Adam Bandt is quite dangerous.
Anyone dismissing him as a “mong” is probably a Mong themselves.

Winston Smith
June 20, 2022 5:38 pm

P:

Australians fought in two World Wars under the Union Jack with so many giving their lives for the freedom of those past, present and future.

That’s one thing the Brandt Mong will never do.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
June 20, 2022 5:39 pm

Rex, I can’t find much beyond individual accounts on that wartranslated site, is there one you can point me to like the Ukrainian ones where whole companies are on video refusing to fight?

Here’s one of a DPR company (who, being under total Russian control, may as well be RU army themselves) refusing to fight:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix2cSrhcykk

And a demand from the wives of missing LPR soldiers to know where their husbands and sons have gone:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cjqfZuvpaKE

Granted that’s just the Ukrainian cannon fodder. Unfiltered Russian stuff is harder to come by in a single search on the english internet, though dedicated OSInt types are active on twitter elsewhere. I may not be able to find what you want to your complete satisfaction.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 20, 2022 5:39 pm

Rex Anger, I haven’t followed the ins and outs of your squabble with Dover over Ukraine. I’ve cross swords with Dover in the past but have agreed to disagree (and to read his recommended books). On Ukraine, most people on the right with whom I talk about it are a bit bob-each-way on the issue of causation and rights and wrongs of the war, with a tendency to lean towards supporting Ukraine, because invaders are not generally well-intentioned people. See, for eg, Calli’s comment above taking this line too.

Others whom I like and know personally, non-left people such as Hairy’s barrister friend in the UK, are busy taking Uke refugees into their houses and running battle equipment secretely into Ukraine. I’ve commented on Russian expansionism on Quadrant Online early on but now find myself completely confused over it all as more information comes out about East Ukraine’s Russian heritage. I’ve always supported Russia’s right to Crimea. This complex war is certainly not worth creating bad feelings with others here, especially the site owner.

Lots of people disagreed on issues with Sinc and I am sure the same pertains to Dover.
Disagreements are part of the deal of free speech.

It hurts when people, many of whom don’t know you, diss you here, I know that; I still haven’t fully got over 56 get-lost upticks. But your comments here are always worth reading, imo to add to the store of information and perspectives, as this was well as on other lighter matters.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 20, 2022 5:40 pm

Don’t invade your neighbours.
It is wrong.

What dope wrote this?
There’s been a War against Donbass since 2014.
Russia intervened to stop the War.
So far, they’ve been successful.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 20, 2022 5:40 pm

Greens leader Adam Bandt has refused to stand next to the Australian flag, telling reporters it is a “hurtful” symbol to many Indigenous Australians.

Should’ve offered him a Chinese flag to stand in front of.
Be fun to see what he’d say about that.

Sky News’s story about the hurty flag is here.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 20, 2022 5:40 pm

They all seriously, including “Hutch” agreed in light of Roe V Wade the threat is real.

Listening to Nanna Hutchison is hardcore. I can’t do it anymore.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 20, 2022 5:41 pm

Rex Anger, I haven’t followed the ins and outs of your squabble with Dover over Ukraine.

Franger is a troll.
That’s all you need to know.

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