Open Thread – Weekend 25 June 2022


The request of the child (the old chest), Ferdinand Georg Waldmüller, 1860

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Dot
Dot
June 26, 2022 4:56 pm

Yeah

The original caselaw is ridiculous (Wickard v Filburn). Like the weed example you cite, but on farm grain production to be used as poultry feed.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 26, 2022 4:56 pm

the commerce clause

Insidious.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 26, 2022 5:02 pm

Vicki – I’ve been an Optus customer for a couple decades, unfortunately the email function has always been iffy. As a result I got a Gmail account, as gmail was much more reliable. Like that emails you sent through it would actually arrive, which wasn’t the case with Optus.

Then on 1 Jun three weeks back they, that is Gmail, went nuts and enforced two factor authentication for access to it. Which doesn’t work on the very widely used software that I also use. So now my Gmail doesn’t work at all.

The moral to this tale is you should have several email avenues, as any one of them could go feral at any time. I had four emails, now three after Gmail’s brainfart. Thinking of setting up another one.

Btw Optus is making noises about authentication too. So far hasn’t extended to email, but they sent an email out a couple weeks ago flagging a security tightening. Which is fun since when cold called by them they never bother to authenticate themselves to me. So I hang up.

Dot
Dot
June 26, 2022 5:02 pm

No rosie generally that is about 50k, about the same time for my friends.

I am talking about a fully self sufficient renewables system that is reliable that can feed back into the grid and can supply natural gas AND liquid fuels.

You must remember some politicians and activists want to shut down all coal & petroleum extraction.

rosie
rosie
June 26, 2022 5:05 pm

Inclined to agree OCO, the constitutional right to abortion was plucked out of thin air.
Congress ought to be the place to make federal law.

rosie
rosie
June 26, 2022 5:06 pm

Dot that is much closer to what was spent.
Iirc the cost of connecting to the grid was around 40k.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 26, 2022 5:19 pm

You can go off grid for a few thousand bucks. The cost in fuel will be substantial though. 😀

Project financial analysis is more than just the up front capital cost though, which is why we use tools like NPV for comparison of options. Excel has a simple NPV function that is easy to use for such things.

Rabz
June 26, 2022 5:29 pm

“Is that a full bottle in front of me or have I had a full frontal lobotomy?”

Sheldo – the quote is as follows:

“I’d rather a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy”

And no, I haven’t read back if somebody has already posted the quote above. 🙂

Rabz
June 26, 2022 5:31 pm

Has anyone been able to reach Kermit Gosnell on the recent SCOTUS decision?

Perhaps not, given he’s languishing in gaol. 🙂

Rabz
June 26, 2022 5:36 pm

JC – your ongoing argumentation with Bruce of Newcastle is not something that needs to continue.

The latter can look after himself, but really – you think he’s a fraud?

Why?

Rabz
June 26, 2022 5:37 pm
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 26, 2022 5:43 pm

I’d rather a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy

Rabz, you’ve reminded me of a band, so I stirred myself to check out their channel:

Los Lobos – Jamaica Say You Will (Dec 2021)

They’ve been going forty years and are still producing decent tracks like this Jackson Browne cover. Well done guys!

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 26, 2022 5:48 pm

Ed Casesays:
June 26, 2022 at 4:43 pm
Here y’ar Zulu, looks like it would kill you to give an abo any credit.
Yeah, it’s Wikipedia and the Black Armband version, but until someone writes the story without the spin, that’s all we got.

If you had bothered to check on the AWM website, you could have found the story. While you are there, look up Reg Saunders.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 26, 2022 5:50 pm

Dickless

No, you can take it that I’ve demolished your argument, SpongeBob.
For all anyone here knows, you support abortions up to and after birth.

If you seriously believe that the crap you wrote demolished anything, then your ignorance is off the scale.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 26, 2022 5:52 pm

While you are there, look up Reg Saunders.

Why don’t you look up Reg Saunders, dumbarse, and post the result, if it’s such a big issue for you?

Rabz
June 26, 2022 5:56 pm

BoN – have you been following the Wolf Alice tour of the States?

Miss Ellie has gone Full Provocative li’l Sexpot.

She’s obviously very over that monstrous extra-terrestrial lizard personage incident from several years ago. 🙂

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 26, 2022 5:59 pm

rosiesays:

June 26, 2022 at 5:05 pm

Inclined to agree OCO, the constitutional right to abortion was plucked out of thin air.
Congress ought to be the place to make federal law.

The odds of Federal Congress passing anything but pro-abortion bills are something approaching zero.
The Senate?
Any abortion bill which isn’t late term (say 15-16 weeks) would probably get up.

cohenite
June 26, 2022 6:00 pm

Timothy Neilsonsays:
June 26, 2022 at 1:43 pm

And the due process and equal protection provisions of the amendment expressly protect all persons — not just citizens.

Illegal immigrants are not citizens or persons under not only due process afforded to citizens/persons in the US but also Australia. One of the ironies of the Roe v Wade being over turned is the biden administration is affording more than due process to illegals while removing them from foetuses and ordinary persons/citizens.

Roe based it’s Judgment on a confected, unconstitutional privacy right to pregnant women. There is no such right afforded in the constitution so at it’s base this is Judge made law. That should have been the end of Roe but there are wider federalist issues and human definitions at stake. DB has already mentioned William Blackstone’s Commentaries on the Laws of England and it’s plain that a foetus was considered a person at quickening, usually occurring at 12-16 weeks. The 3 month rule was a compromise recognition of that. Roe ignored that long precedent and also medical advances in providing life outside the womb at earlier times while simultaneously creating an expansive privacy right for women which included being able to abort, increasingly, well after quickening.

The federalist issue is part of the decentralised structure of the American federal system where the states have much greater constitutional autonomy then Australian states. The 14th Amendment is really not relevant to abortion as a women’s rights issue because it was introduced to constitutionally enshrine the rights of black Americans after the civil war. This was not a deprivation of state rights because the civil war was about some persons, ie blacks, having secondary citizen status. The 14th codified the result of the civil war. To argue the 14th codifies the equal rights of one class of person while it can also be used to remove the rights of another, ie foetuses, has always been a distortion of its intent and purpose.

Rabz
June 26, 2022 6:04 pm

I’ve been an Optus customer for a couple decades, unfortunately the email function has always been iffy. As a result I got a Gmail account, as gmail was much more reliable

I’m a shloptus customer and if anyone wants to trawl through my gmail emails, then have at it. 🙂

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 26, 2022 6:06 pm

Ed Casesays:
June 26, 2022 at 5:52 pm
While you are there, look up Reg Saunders.

Why don’t you look up Reg Saunders, dumbarse, and post the result, if it’s such a big issue for you?

I don’t need to look up Reg Saunders, fuckwit, because I know his story, and have known it for very many years. You on the other hand, don’t even know how to find your own arse, as it is not to be found via Google.

Frank
Frank
June 26, 2022 6:07 pm

Best to avoid the Goop endorsed French Lentil + Leek Crumbles, your liver will thank you.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
June 26, 2022 6:08 pm

Bruce, ta for the reply. However precedent has been set, for 2/3rds that price BMD did similar near the stadium hence why us ratepayers are questioning this and noting the contract winner despite being self proclaimed so called a “God fearing” family has tried to rip off us ratepayers once before with the Adani Airport. Below is from someone else but amplifies my questions in light of years of massive rate rises hidden in waste charges or valuation increases:

Proof of the Townsville Bulletin’s cosy protection arrangement with Jenny Hill number 2376.
Last Monday I sent a text to the editor regarding the staggering $6.2 million being paid to the Wagners (of Wellcamp fame,) for the boardwalk that will go from nowhere to nowhere along Ross Creek.
I pointed out that the $6.2 million for 280 metres of boardwalk seemed a tad expensive compared to the more realistic $2.39 million paid to BMD for the 440 metre boardwalk in Central Park that links the Cowboys stadium to Victoria Bridge and the CBD, and asked why the difference. Pretty reasonable question, I thought, to which there may be a plausible answer (or not).
I also requested an explanation as to just who will use the new boardwalk, and why. Again, surely ratepayers are entitled to know the reason this new extravagance is so urgently needed at a time of record council debt.
Needless to say my text hasn’t seen the light of day.
Obviously Jenny didn’t approve it.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 26, 2022 6:12 pm

Rabz – Haven’t, but a band that a Cat used to like on the old Cat (you?) came to mind today so I’ve checked out their channel too. I suspect she and Ellie wouldn’t get on well. It’s a blonde thing.

Pomplamoose – Thinkin Bout You (20 May)

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 26, 2022 6:20 pm

I like this one. Usually they do covers, but this is an original. Elon features.

Pomplamoose – If you go to Mars (15 Oct)

2dogs
2dogs
June 26, 2022 6:24 pm
Diogenes
Diogenes
June 26, 2022 6:27 pm

Dover,
Looking at the twatter feed. My staffroom (Qld) are pissed off because the refusers got a term being paid for doing nothing and causing a massive amount of inconvenience. Nobody is worried about catching it from them.
.

Rabz
June 26, 2022 6:38 pm
Indolent
Indolent
June 26, 2022 6:38 pm
Rex Anger
Rex Anger
June 26, 2022 6:41 pm

I observe Grigory getting very excited about Len Waters upthread.

Are we about to see a rerun of the Whiiiiiite Suuuuub Affair? 🙂

Roger
Roger
June 26, 2022 6:42 pm

Neil Oliver – ‘we’re definitely moving towards a one world government’

Never since 1991 was such a proposition less likely.

We’re moving towards multipolarity.

Love your work, Neil, but stick to popular history.

Rabz
June 26, 2022 6:43 pm

‘we’re definitely moving towards a one world government’

Which is why we need a “Trusted 1984 Identity”, apparently.

You can take your “trusted digital identities” and insert them into your house sized backsides, you fascist fuckwits … 😡

John Sheldrick
June 26, 2022 6:45 pm

Boambee Johnsays:
June 26, 2022 at 4:37 pm
The Pill has been a proven disaster for women’s long term health,
Frenchies are a stupid idea, Controids contain Mercury, ever heard of the Dalkon Shield and the Copper 7 [?], the Rhythm Method doesn’t work, the Bates Method is rubbish, DepoProvera is a fucked idea, etc.

Thank you for that negativity, Perfesser Dickless. Can we take your comment as a ringing endorsement of unlimited access to abortion at all stages of pregnancy?

This is why the culture in some countries is for the woman to take it up the bum. They can’t get an unwanted pregnancy that way.

Rabz
June 26, 2022 6:58 pm

The Pill has been a proven disaster for women’s long term health

Well, duuuuhhhh …

One word – cellulite.

Non existent until the pill.

Thanks, collectivists, you monstrous morons. 😡

JMH
JMH
June 26, 2022 7:05 pm

Television Review: Channel-hopping tonight, I came across something on Sky called Inside The News. Caleb Bond plus Daisy Cousins as hosts. No problem listening to Caleb but I cannot stomach the roaring mouse voice of Daisy. I know she is intelligent and across her brief but squeaky renditions don’t cut it with me. Cant’s stand it. NITV’s Undiscovered Vistas won my eyeballs.

2dogs
2dogs
June 26, 2022 7:09 pm

Neil Oliver – ‘we’re definitely moving towards a one world government’

I think what needs to be brought home to those supporting such an idea, is who is likely to win government in world elections.

They are clearly projecting what is true for Western countries onto the rest of the world.

They would be quite shocked at the type of person who would be elected world president. Someone like Putin.

Franx
Franx
June 26, 2022 7:17 pm

Anal sex is not a cultural thing but a degeneracy within any culture.
As for contraception, I think it is underestimated that giving birth itself is a form of contraception since fertility does not return for some time after delivery and then usually some time after the end of breast feeding.

Dot
Dot
June 26, 2022 7:18 pm

They would be quite shocked at the type of person who would be elected world president. Someone like Putin.

No shit, Saddam Hussein.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 26, 2022 7:19 pm

I don’t need to look up Reg Saunders, fuckwit, because I know his story, and have known it for very many years.

One of a newly arrived reinforcement draft to Korea is supposed to have looked about him, and said
“Bloody Hell, this is no country for a white man.”
Reg Saunders is alleged to have relied
“It’s no country for a black man, either.”

Eyrie
Eyrie
June 26, 2022 7:20 pm

Pomplamoose – If you go to Mars
“If you go to Mars, pack your guitar”

Reminds me of an old Allen Steele story – Live from The Mars Hotel

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
June 26, 2022 7:24 pm

cellulite

Are you sure it was just the pill, Rabz?

Or could the sheer advances in food production and the corresponding calorific quality and density between 1945 and 1965 have made a contribution?

#FatBottomed…Errrrr…Persons

#NotABiologist

rickw
rickw
June 26, 2022 7:24 pm

Some poor dirt bags had a very stressful time last night.

They drove into the edge of the forest and got bogged to the axels just near the pile of logs I cut last weekend.

Pity they got it out. The burned out wreck of whatever heap of shit they were driving on top of the dam bank would have made a nice art installation.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
June 26, 2022 7:24 pm

(Cue Grigory going berko about carbohydrates…) 🙂

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
June 26, 2022 7:25 pm

dover0beachsays:
June 26, 2022 at 4:44 pm
Sounds like judicial activism.

Please. No backsliding.

Again, Bostock.

dover, what makes you think Bostock was a proper application of interpretation principles?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
June 26, 2022 7:26 pm

Pity they got it out. The burned out wreck of whatever heap of shit they were driving on top of the dam bank would have made a nice art installation

I agree that heads on pikes is a bit passé as an anti-trespass warning these days. 🙂

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 26, 2022 7:32 pm

Love your work, Neil, but stick to popular history.

Agree.
Are Neil’s online numbers dropping off?

Rabz
June 26, 2022 7:32 pm

Or could the sheer advances in food production and the corresponding calorific quality and density between 1945 and 1965 have made a contribution?

Nein.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
June 26, 2022 7:36 pm

Nein

But Rabz!

Nobody sang about Fat-bottomed Girls before Freddie did… 🙁

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
June 26, 2022 7:38 pm

Fat-bottomed….

Faaaaaark!

Persons!

The Black Helicopters will be coming for me now. And m0nty…. 🙁 🙁 🙁

132andBush
132andBush
June 26, 2022 7:39 pm

Ed Case says:
June 26, 2022 at 4:43 pm

Here y’ar Zulu, looks like it would kill you to give an abo any credit.
Yeah, it’s Wikipedia and the Black Armband version, but until someone writes the story without the spin, that’s all we got.

Still waiting for you to report about the African slaves who were sent east.
And who ended slavery?

Looks like it would kill you to give the West (U.S in particular) any credit.

Bluey
Bluey
June 26, 2022 7:39 pm

John Sheldricksays:
June 26, 2022 at 6:45 pm
Boambee Johnsays:
June 26, 2022 at 4:37 pm
This is why the culture in some countries is for the woman to take it up the bum. They can’t get an unwanted pregnancy that way.

I may have witnessed a POM leading a toast with “up the the bum”, followed by “NO BABIES!” at a wedding. With various red faces.

Although it might have been a heavily military wedding.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 26, 2022 7:41 pm

As for contraception, I think it is underestimated that giving birth itself is a form of contraception since fertility does not return for some time after delivery and then usually some time after the end of breast feeding.
Yeah, that’ll work.
She’s having a kid every 15-20 months, then?

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
June 26, 2022 7:43 pm

The BBC (cousin of our GayBC) has a ‘news’ item today celebrating Pride Scotland. Are the star performers Ben Doon and Phil MaCavity?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
June 26, 2022 7:48 pm

Are the star performers Ben Doon and Phil MaCavity?

Nah. They were sent to Re-Education last week for saying something deemed transphobic.

Cassie of Sydney
June 26, 2022 7:49 pm

I was not surprised with the SCOTUS decision on Roe v Wade (inevitable, it was always a bad ruling), it will be regarded, rightly, as President Trump’s greatest legacy. I believe the SCOTUS decision is the right one. However my personal feelings around this debate are somewhat more nuanced and I’m always reluctant to get into a debate because it is so emotive. However, I’ll dip my toe into the sea and set out some of my views….

1. The SCOTUS decision has nothing to do with whether abortion is right or wrong, it is simply saying that Roe v Wade is not constitutional and thus returning it to the individual states to enact laws about abortion.

2. I have a Jewish perspective on abortion, a perspective which does not entirely accord with the Christian perspective so, as I said above, I tend to avoid disputations about abortion. Judaism forbids abortion except in one circumstance…which is if the mother’s life is in danger then her life takes precedence over the life of the unborn child. I think this is the same view in Islam and Hinduism.

3. Late last night, after a wonderful Catallaxy catch up, I came home and watched a woman interviewed on Fox News. This woman had once run a Planned Parenthood centre, had two abortions and is now pro-life. She echoed what I think about the SCOTUS ruling, she said that the left have brought this on themselves. As she said, most Americans are willing to tolerate abortion in the first trimester but that was never good enough for the progressive left (and it’s the same here in Oz) and have pushed for abortion later and later in the pregnancy cycle so that now you can access abortion in some states right up to birth (something now also legal here in NSW since 2019, thanks to a Liberal government that shamefully capitulated to a putrid progressive inner city independent Green homosexual). There is now even talk about post-birth abortion and if that isn’t murder, I don’t know what isn’t.

4. The issues around abortion in the West, since the 1960s, aren’t just one of legality or illegality. If we’re going to talk about banning abortion, we also need to talk about the issues that go hand in hand with the dramatic surge in abortion since 1960s, and most of these issues are of course tied up with the sexual revolution and how catastrophic that “revolution” has been to sex, to relationships, to intimacy, to marriage, to family, to males and females taking responsibility.

5. Dover has posted a link on the side bar to a Twitter thread by a man named “Edward Feser”. I think Mr Feser nails the issues around abortion and they echo my own thoughts.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 26, 2022 7:49 pm

I don’t need to look up Reg Saunders, fuckwit, because I know his story, and have known it for very many years.

Using an Aboriginal Soldier to try and win a point on a Blog is a new low, even for the likes of you.

One of a newly arrived reinforcement draft to Korea is supposed to have looked about him, and said
“Bloody Hell, this is no country for a white man.”
Reg Saunders is alleged to have relied
“It’s no country for a black man, either.”

What’s the significance of this anecdote, Zulu?
Are you trying to prove something?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
June 26, 2022 7:50 pm

They were sent to Re-Education last week for saying something deemed transphobic.

It seems Wee Jimmie Krankie of the Holyrood doesn’t like being deadnamed…

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
June 26, 2022 7:52 pm

Using an Aboriginal Soldier to try and win a point on a Blog is a new low, even for the likes of you.

Grigs is clearly feeling his gypsum today, and the childlike attempts at projection are merely the tip of the iceberg…

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
June 26, 2022 7:53 pm

Judaism forbids abortion except in one circumstance…which is if the mother’s life is in danger then her life takes precedence over the life of the unborn child.

There’s more than a few Christian perspectives say the same, Cassie.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 26, 2022 8:01 pm

What’s the significance of this anecdote, Zulu?
Are you trying to prove something?

No. Merely passing on an anecdote which those Cats who had heard of Reg Saunders may not have heard.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 26, 2022 8:05 pm

Joe Ashton releases column saying Joshy is trying to get a job with the AFL.
And not just any job.
The top job.

Rabz
June 26, 2022 8:05 pm

I know she is intelligent and across her brief but squeaky renditions

Then turn the sound down, Squire.

She is pale, beautiful and brunette, leavened with those 50s hausfrau influences.

A diamond in the all pervasive dirt.

rosie
rosie
June 26, 2022 8:07 pm

Principle of double effect, discussed at Sinc’s several times over the years.

Rabz
June 26, 2022 8:14 pm

Ample bottomaged goils

Ample bottoms (she’s alleged to possess one) …

😕

Rabz
June 26, 2022 8:17 pm
cohenite
June 26, 2022 8:20 pm

Then turn the sound down, Squire.

She is pale, beautiful and brunette, leavened with those 50s hausfrau influences.

A diamond in the all pervasive dirt.

Yep, our Daisy is up there with our Jane.

Rabz
June 26, 2022 8:20 pm

But not as legendary as this … 😕

John Sheldrick
June 26, 2022 8:24 pm

Rex Angersays:
June 26, 2022 at 7:48 pm
Are the star performers Ben Doon and Phil MaCavity?

Nah. They were sent to Re-Education last week for saying something deemed transphobic.

LOL. Then there is always John Fitzpatrick and Patrick Fitzjohn.

BTW, I always thought that ‘transphobic’ was a fear of travelling on Public Transport.

Rabz
June 26, 2022 8:25 pm
Franx
Franx
June 26, 2022 8:29 pm

Very strange. Baby bumps are so in vogue. Pregnancies, not so.

Frank
Frank
June 26, 2022 8:30 pm

Nobody sang about Fat-bottomed Girls before Freddie did… ?

Rubens, but that was painting, not song.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 26, 2022 8:31 pm

As she said, most Americans are willing to tolerate abortion in the first trimester but that was never good enough for the progressive left (and it’s the same here in Oz) and have pushed for abortion later and later in the pregnancy cycle so that now you can access abortion in some states right up to birth …

Spot on.
Overreach is what done them in.
As I said upthread, a Federal law based on first trimester terminations plus incest and rape exceptions would probably get through.
And there is also a lesson in this for pro-lifers (as I am). If we believe that State laws which have been in a cryogenic chamber as long as Walt Disney will stand public scrutiny in 2022, that would be a yuuuge mistake.
I don’t believe a majority are going to accept laws which:-
– set cut-offs at six weeks;
– provide no exemptions for rape and incest;
– criminalise everyone involved including the mother and right down to hospital orderlies;
– apply penalties which far exceed those for almost any other crime.
To be clear, these are not necessarily my views, just what I believe will fly (or not) in the US in 2022.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 26, 2022 8:43 pm

Dickless

Yeah, that’ll work.
She’s having a kid every 15-20 months, then?

As well as not knowing how generations are described Post-WW II, it seems that you know less than nothing about demographic change in that period.

cohenite
June 26, 2022 8:45 pm

As I said Blackstone referred to the quickening. 12 weeks, that’s it. But like 3rd nations, climate change, every fucking virtue signalling issue there is no end to them. The left never stop. So you may as well ban abortion except for very limited exceptions: incest, rape, physical harm to the mother.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 26, 2022 8:47 pm

Dickless

Using an Aboriginal Soldier to try and win a point on a Blog is a new low, even for the likes of you.

Sez the fool who tried to use an aboriginal airman (pilot) to try to win a point on a blog, then tried to brush away the existence of an aboriginal soldier. But it isn’t a “new low even for the likes of you”, because you are so low you have to reach up to touch a snake’s belly.

JC
JC
June 26, 2022 8:55 pm

You know, the equivalent of the Teals in the US are the suburban mothers. I hope it doesn’t impact the election with this lot of freeloaders.

Rabz
June 26, 2022 8:56 pm

the suburban mothers

AKA “soccer moms” …

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
June 26, 2022 8:56 pm

Hahahaha, if you think the current SCOTUS is going to be constrained by logic or precedent, you’re a fool.

WTF would you know about logic, M0nty?

calli
calli
June 26, 2022 8:57 pm

Yes, Dover. Those 3D scans have destroyed the killers’ magical thinking.

Rabz
June 26, 2022 8:59 pm

Dear Prudence

Again, the sparseness.

132andBush
132andBush
June 26, 2022 8:59 pm

WTF would you know about logic, M0nty?

He certainly isn’t constrained by his precedents.

miltonf
miltonf
June 26, 2022 9:06 pm

Both the darkness with which the practice occurs, and why children now beyond the womb are left to die alone in the dark on a tray. No words.

also shows that many psychopaths are attracted to the medical ‘profession’. Seem to be incapable of remorse or shame. Wainer, Bayliss, Davis- anti heros of the late 20th century

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
June 26, 2022 9:09 pm

WTF would you know about logic, M0nty?

He certainly isn’t constrained by his precedents.

His lot had plenty of time to make a logical, precedent based case against the sc decision. Did they even try? No, they fell back on screaching, chanting, waving banners and threatening violence. It was exactly as a cynic would have predicted.

calli
calli
June 26, 2022 9:19 pm

No, they fell back on screaching, chanting, waving banners and threatening violence.

They can hardly wave photos of the children they so desperately want to kill. Even if they tried the argument that they are a different sort of creature to the little ones cruelly murdered in their classroom so recently.

The fall back position must, of necessity, distance itself as far from an actual child as it can. So far, the “clump of cells” garbage has worked. No longer.

The only option is sideshow distraction and deflection. “We demand you let us kill children” is a derg that won’t hunt.

cohenite
June 26, 2022 9:21 pm

Who can send this to rub and tug, the dickless NSW premier and big Pete:

It’s all over

Climate pledges abandoned as Putin sparks global coal crunch

JC
JC
June 26, 2022 9:24 pm

JC – your ongoing argumentation with Bruce of Newcastle is not something that needs to continue.

Yes boss.

It’s not really an argument as such. I’m just getting very sick of his fucking bullshit and frankly other people agree with me too who have contacted me privately. I’m not kidding. He makes shit up and is blindly biased to the point where he attempts to mislead people.

1/ The Titus stuff is just sanctimonious crap. He tried that on a couple of weeks ago to avoid answering some dodgy bullshit he posted or agreed with about chemicals in the vax miraculously turning into metal. When he was questioned about that again recently, he titused a response by making it appear as though I had first tackled him on this, but I didn’t and he’s well aware of that.

2/ The climate stuff he posts on is complete crap. There is no evidence we’re heading for a cooling period as he’s suggested. If Fester makes such an extraordinary assertion it requires heavy duty evidence.

3/ The battery stuff was supposed to be right up his ally as a metallurgist. He either has no fucking idea or is too biased or stupid to recognize there is serious innovation going on in that space.

4/ I posted an example of his other bullshit. One day he told us that he wasn’t talking to his neighbors because they’re left-wing. I’m not kidding, the very next day, the idiot posted a criticism of leftwingers for refusing to engage with the right. He’s a nutball.

The latter can look after himself, but really – you think he’s a fraud?

To some extent I believe he is a fraud. To some extent means exactly that, so don’t come back and suggest to some extent means 100%.

Why?

See above.

JC
JC
June 26, 2022 9:29 pm

It’s all over

Climate pledges abandoned as Putin sparks global coal crunch

There could be some really serious money to be made in the coal space. Demand is going up to some extent while supply is constrained.

I bought some Glencore on the UK market a few weeks ago. It’s trading at 446ish pounds a share. There’s a good possibility they actually pay a dividend for 70 pounds a share around the beginning of quarter 3. They’ve raked in the cash.

cohenite
June 26, 2022 9:35 pm

There is no evidence we’re heading for a cooling period as he’s suggested. If Fester makes such an extraordinary assertion it requires heavy duty evidence.

We’re heading for a cooling period. Is that heavy duty enough for you.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
June 26, 2022 9:36 pm

Secretary of Defense Lloyd J. Austin III
@SecDef

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JC
JC
June 26, 2022 9:38 pm

If the world isn’t careful we could end up being short of coal too as demand is going up.

It’s truly a unique situation we’re in – one I’ve never seen in my lifetime of trading. We’re seeing an elitist noose being around coal’s neck. Stupid governments, evil money managers like Blackrock etc who in turn are limiting banks to lend to coal producers and on it goes. Meanwhile demand is actually heading higher with very limited possibility of major new supplies coming on stream. It’s a pretty incredible pickle we’re in.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 26, 2022 9:41 pm

I bought some Glencore on the UK market a few weeks ago. 

Whenever Adam Bandit gets om the telly bitching about “evil corporations profiteering off power shortages”, I am on the phone to my broker with a “BUY” before he is halfway finished his rant.

JC
JC
June 26, 2022 9:42 pm

Cronkite

Okay, present the evidence and explain why someone like Judith Curry, Murray Butsten, Shellenberger and Lomborg are wrong.

I’ll wait.

JC
JC
June 26, 2022 9:50 pm

I’ll also add the Climate Audit dude, whose name I’ve forgotten and MIT’s Richard Lindzen to this group of luke warmers who think that the world is warming due to man , but benignly so.

Cronkite, don’t come back at me with bullshit the alarmists are predicting and make your case against them. Just explain why these luke warmers , who believe the world is better off with 2 degs of warming are wrong.
I’d also include David Friedman in the mix.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 26, 2022 9:50 pm

I am on the phone to my broker with a “BUY” before he is halfway finished his rant.

Pay that one.

MatrixTransform
June 26, 2022 9:57 pm

Meanwhile demand is actually heading higher with very limited possibility of major new supplies coming on stream.

who new, heh?

if only Putin hadn’t turned off the siberian solar

132andBush
132andBush
June 26, 2022 9:58 pm

His lot had plenty of time to make a logical, precedent based case against the sc decision. Did they even try? No, they fell back on screaching, chanting, waving banners and threatening violence. It was exactly as a cynic would have predicted.

Steven Crowder live streamed the decision the other day, he has an excellent “rant” about people accepting responsibility, feminism etc.
The left’s arguments are popped with the slightest touch.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
June 26, 2022 9:59 pm

Elisabeth Epps
@elisabethepps

Please let’s be attentive with our language. The fall of Roe v Wade is not just about a “woman’s right to choose.”

Women aren’t the only people who need abortions.

As women, we lose nothing when we speak of pregnant *people.* But in doing so we gain inclusivity

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
June 26, 2022 10:01 pm

JC, I don’t think you understood the Titus stuff. It was BoN’s polite way of telling you that he doesn’t want to talk to you because he thinks you’re an ignorant arsehole. I don’t say he’s right about that, but I can see why he’d think it.

JC
JC
June 26, 2022 10:02 pm

Get a load of this price chart. It’s amazing. Early 2021, the coal price was around US$50 bucks. It’s now ~US$395 a ton. All this happening while the anti-coal fuckheads were trashing it and choking supplies.

https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/coal

JC
JC
June 26, 2022 10:12 pm

Doc

I don’t think you’ve understood the Titus stuff, even though I was pretty clear with what I said before. A few weeks ago, Uncle Fester told Sanchez Titus prevented him from answering to Fester’s assertion where he suggested human bodies were acting as steel foundries. I never started that back and forth either at the beginning or recently. In other words, Fester is a lying kunt through inference. Is that clear now. Try to answer me in the affirmative and don’t slink away without saying you understand this now.

I don’t say he’s right about that, but I can see why he’d think it.

Doc, honestly, I really don’t give a shit what you think of me and hopefully you’re not concerned I really don’t give a shit about your views on these matters either. Let’s just try to co-exist.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 26, 2022 10:12 pm

Malcolm X knew it.
That’s why the blob had him killed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alrxnLK9AxA

cohenite
June 26, 2022 10:13 pm

Okay, present the evidence and explain why someone like Judith Curry, Murray Butsten, Shellenberger and Lomborg are wrong.

They’re not wrong; you just don’t understand them. Start with with a Sunspot graph.

Then read what Dr Evans, Jo’s hubbie, has to say.

JC
JC
June 26, 2022 10:15 pm

In any event Doc, you’re not exactly Mr Easy-Going yourself. Try to see it from my perspective, which should help you understand. Think of it this way. Uncle Fester’s bullshit triggers me approximately to the same extent that Fatboy does you. Both trigger me.

JC
JC
June 26, 2022 10:21 pm

Cronkite

look, I don’t really want to argue with you. We don’t have 400 years of accurate sunspotting. The chart is made up crap.

Then read what Dr Evans, Jo’s hubbie, has to say.

I have in the past and think it’s misguided crap.
I’m happy to send you to:
Judith Curry,
Murray Butsten,
Shellenberger
Lomborg
Rich Lindzen
Mr. Climate Audit
David Friedman

Tell us why these people (who are benign luke-warmers) are wrong.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 26, 2022 10:21 pm

Channel 9 gets the game three decider they demanded.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 26, 2022 10:22 pm

Newsom will be the DNC candidate in 2024.

JC
JC
June 26, 2022 10:23 pm

Newsom will be the DNC candidate in 2024.

Yep.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 26, 2022 10:30 pm

Lisa Wilkinson’s high-priced lawyer is being paid $11,000-a-day following her disastrous Logies speech.

Will he be defending her against a charge of “contempt of Court?”

cohenite
June 26, 2022 10:34 pm

They not wrong. You just don’t understand them. And stop belittling your betters. Even I defer to David Evans. And sunspots are the best way of predicting GAT.

Here’s a graph of temperatures from the beginning of the Holocene, the current interglacial; look carefully; they’re going down.

The Holocene is an interglacial. Here it is compared to previous ones. Look carefully because our interglacial, the Holocene, is smaller then the previous ones.

JC
JC
June 26, 2022 10:50 pm

They not wrong.

Great. We’re getting somewhere.

You just don’t understand them.

Now it’s two steps back. Why do you suggest I don’t understand them?

And stop belittling your betters.

Fatboy and Fester? 🙂

Even I defer to David Evans.

Dude, we can’t chart 400 years of sunspots for the simple reason no one was cataloging 400 years ago.

And sunspots are the best way of predicting GAT.

What do those luke-warmers think about sunspots?

Here’s a graph of temperatures from the beginning of the Holocene, the current interglacial; look carefully; they’re going down.

Tell me, were they using tree rings when working their way through the holocene? 🙂

The Holocene is an interglacial. Here it is compared to previous ones. Look carefully because our interglacial, the Holocene, is smaller then the previous ones.

Cronkite, we don’t have accurate information to go back that far in the same way NORAD doesn’t have accurate information to be telling us this is the “warmiest” for the past 2000 years.
Knock it off.

And by the way, you’re massively contradicting yourself.

You tell me the names I brought up aren’t wrong, then progress to suggesting the world is cooling. Both can’t be right. Luke warmers and coolers are not both right.

JC
JC
June 26, 2022 10:56 pm

A pal has a vacation home in Ct and there legally buys gummy bear-like jellies that have marijuana in them. I guess it’s the essence.

They’re only about a buck a gummy bear. I bought some back in an Altoids box stuffed deep in my case as apparently the stuff is still illegal here. I was worried sniffer dogs would get the scent but I suspected altoids would negate it. I get them through . I’ve had two, boy they’re fun and give you such an easy sleep.

cohenite
June 26, 2022 11:01 pm

Dude, we can’t chart 400 years of sunspots for the simple reason no one was cataloging 400 years ago.

FMD. 2 words: Galileo

Tell me, were they using tree rings when working their way through the holocene?

Ice-cores. This is getting embarrassing.

WTF has NORAD got to do with climate. They’re too busy Lgbtqing.

Luke-warming is a description of folk who think humans contribute a minute amount to the warming which occurred over the last 150 years. Even if you accept this the natural cycles I’m talking about, all well measured, completely overwhelm them.

Forget it; your mind is closed. I’ve done my best. A word of advice: don’t short proven energy sources or investments in animals with fur.

JC
JC
June 26, 2022 11:02 pm

You can get the gummy-bears here too – illegally of course.

I have to say, they’re great.

Cannabis edibles being popped among Sydneysiders as concerns grow over their use

THERE’S a new drug on the scene that’s posing a real concern for police and parents because it looks like a lolly or a vitamin.

A NEW drug is making its way into Australia’s drug scene and it’s even harder to detect.

Edible cannabis-derived gummies are reportedly being taken by anyone from Sydney’s elite social circles to the waiters who serve them because of their inconspicuous appearance.

The cannabis edibles, which can have both THC or CBD oil in them, look like gummy bear lollies or soft multivitamins.

With significant concerns in the United States the gummies are appealing to children, NSW Police is also echoing those fears.

While there are yet to be reports of children taking them in Australia, hospitality workers told news.com.au they are rampant among Sydney’s restaurant scene.

“A lot of the staff on the floor take them or know where to get them,” said one worker at one of Sydney’s most exclusive restaurants.

“You also see them being passed around by customers because it just looks like they’re having lollies if you don’t know what they are.

“We know but a lot of people wouldn’t, and I guess they do it because it’s less obvious than doing lines of cocaine.

“This is a different high too, one that can get you through the day without frying your brain.”

In the US, CBD has been described as “the drug you can do at work” where people have reported popping a gummy when they arrive at the office each morning because CBD is the mellowing component of a high.

THC is responsible for the psychoactive effects of marijuana such as lethargy and the munchies.
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Marijuana plants with their buds covered in white crystals, called trichomes, are nearly ready for harvest at a medical marijuana cultivation centre in the US. They can be turned into oils, creams, buds, chocolates and gummies. Picture: Seth Perlman/AP
Marijuana plants with their buds covered in white crystals, called trichomes, are nearly ready for harvest at a medical marijuana cultivation centre in the US. They can be turned into oils, creams, buds, chocolates and gummies. Picture: Seth Perlman/AP

Gummies in the US even come in chic packaging and range anywhere between $20-$45 for a small box.

Some contain 25mg of CBD which is not considered a small dose but is said to curb anxiety and stress, promote sleep and reduce muscular inflammation and pain, which is why they are also used among cancer patients.

In Australia, imported medicinal cannabis products can only be used if prescribed by a doctor.

Doctors need to be able to show the drug would be of benefit for a patient and states and territories can make access available to specific types of patients.

Australia’s budding medicinal cannabis sector has been given approval to begin exports, which patients hope will help the developing domestic market grow.

Last month, Greens leader Richard Di Natale said it was time for Australia to get serious about legalising cannabis and even suggested a national vote on the issue.

A NSW Police spokeswoman said it was aware of a variety of cannabis edibles, which were widely available in the US in locations where the sale and possession of marijuana was legal.

“These products — and any consumable made with cannabis — are illegal in NSW,” she said.

“While we have not seen much of these ‘edibles’ in NSW, we continue to monitor trends in this space.

“We will continue to work with our law enforcement partners to target illegal drugs on all fronts — trafficking, supply, and manufacture — but real and lasting cannot be achieved without change from within the community.

“As much as anything we need to reduce the demand. Whenever someone is willing to buy drugs, there will be criminals willing to supply it for profit.”

A NSW Health spokeswoman said the department had no reports of cannabis gummies being used in the state.

“Cannabis and cannabis products cannot be legally used or supplied in NSW unless they

are a medicine that has been approved for use as a medicine by the Commonwealth

and lawfully prescribed by a medical practitioner,” she said.
Gummies are disguised to look like lollies, multivitamins or chocolate.

JC
JC
June 26, 2022 11:11 pm

Dude, we can’t chart 400 years of sunspots for the simple reason no one was cataloging 400 years ago.

FMD. 2 words: Galileo

Oh yea, he was charting and accurately measuring the strength of these sunspots, was he?

WTF has NORAD got to do with climate. They’re too busy Lgbtqing.

What I said they said. That it’s the hottest its been in 2000 years.

Luke-warming is a description of folk who think humans contribute a minute amount to the warming which occurred over the last 150 years. Even if you accept this the natural cycles I’m talking about, all well measured, completely overwhelm them.

You’re as freaking bad as the alarmists. They say the arrow is point directly up whereas you’re saying it’s pointing directly down.

Forget it; your mind is closed. I’ve done my best.

Actually I really don’t give a shit one way or another because humanity’s existence is based on our ability to control our destiny through technology. It’s the prevention of using technology that would have me really concerned.

A word of advice: don’t short proven energy sources or investments in animals with fur.

Okay.

JC
JC
June 26, 2022 11:16 pm

I don’t know why we don’t have them but I think they’re popular in the States because of no-smoking laws in apartments.

Dunno, but they’re just great and you just great. I was a mule… LOL. I thought about it if the fuckers caught me. I’d just tell the truth and say I was given them legally and didn’t think it would be a problem here seeing they’re legal in CT and for my own personal use.

I watched the movie The Mule and I recalled he killed the dogs’ scent with peppermint.

JC
JC
June 26, 2022 11:16 pm

Dover

I don’t think they’re legal in NY though.

JC
JC
June 26, 2022 11:18 pm

Whoops

Dunno, but they’re just great and you just have a great sleep.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
June 26, 2022 11:42 pm

JC
Can you please just stop being such an awesome dude, I’m trying to get some sleep

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 26, 2022 11:46 pm

Lisa Wilkinson’s high-priced lawyer is being paid $11,000-a-day following her disastrous Logies speech.

Typical.
The Bandanas beat everybody to Net Zero 28 years early.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 26, 2022 11:52 pm

I don’t know why we don’t have them but I think they’re popular in the States because of no-smoking laws in apartments.

So you don’t smoke the gummy bears then?
That explains a lot.

MatrixTransform
June 27, 2022 12:02 am

you could ask a fat fucking mole at Bunnings how to sharpen a chisel
she’d tell ya to buy some old piece of shit from their range
there’d be maybe one piece of kit that possibly gets close to what you need
but it’d still be rubbish
and there’s no way that dumb mole would have the slightest clue what was needed, how to achieve it, or why a primary bevel of 25° and a secondary of 35° is the customary way.

it’s gone … lost … we dont do that anymore … just buy new chisels says the mole

and that, is a parallel for where we are in the climate debate

bunnings’ opinions
bunnings’ batteries
bunnings’ solar
bunnings’s wind
bunnings’ global warmening

be careful where you get your opinions

experts aren’t what they used to be

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 27, 2022 12:03 am

Can’t wait to see JC on “Border Security” as they rummage through the ironed jeans and tasseled loafers looking for contraband.

Oh come on
Oh come on
June 27, 2022 12:48 am

Michael Shellenberger is CIA*. I don’t know what his angle is exactly – I think he was sent out to join the pompously-titled ‘Intellectual Darkweb’ and try to influence its direction, but it imploded before he could really make his mark there.

Why do I say he’s CIA? Well, his old man Shelly Shellenberger, is confirmed CIA and these people like to keep it in their families. Michael spent much of his 20s in Central America (not at all a place of interest for the CIA, no, never) working on his anthropology Ph.D – the study of anthropology being a favourite cover for higher-end CIA operatives, as it allows them to get up close and personal with people all over the world. He didn’t complete the anthropology Ph.D as he made a somewhat inexplicable move from anthropology straight to the heights of the TED Talk scene (without genuine bona fides, you need connections to make that kind of shift) as an evangelical advocate for nuclear energy. He has subsequently branched out into numerous fields and seems to be posturing himself as a based liberal (‘I’m a classical liberal!’) intellectual. Dude’s CIA. Not to be trusted.

JC
JC
June 27, 2022 12:50 am

JC
Can you please just stop being such an awesome dude, I’m trying to get some sleep

Sure, because I want to be just like you, waly. I may be awesome but you’re awsomer. If you can’t sleep try a gummy bear.

Tom
Tom
June 27, 2022 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
June 27, 2022 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
June 27, 2022 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
June 27, 2022 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
June 27, 2022 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
June 27, 2022 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
June 27, 2022 4:07 am
Ed Case
Ed Case
June 27, 2022 4:08 am

Lisa Wilkinson’s high-priced lawyer is being paid $11,000-a-day following her disastrous Logies speech.

Since it’s ended her well paid Media career, what was in it for Lisa to make the speech?

Tom
Tom
June 27, 2022 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
June 27, 2022 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
June 27, 2022 4:10 am
Ed Case
Ed Case
June 27, 2022 4:10 am

Warren Brown is onto Lisa’s game.

Tom
Tom
June 27, 2022 4:11 am
John Sheldrick
June 27, 2022 5:02 am

and that, is a parallel for where we are in the climate debate

bunnings’ opinions
bunnings’ batteries
bunnings’ solar
bunnings’s wind
bunnings’ global warmening

be careful where you get your opinions

experts aren’t what they used to be

No need for all of this endless opinion’ stuff. Just do what Mother Nature does and adapt. No need to piss trillions and trillions of dollars of borrowed money up the wall either. Mother knows best. Just adapt. A heck of a lot easier and cheaper in the long run.

Then there will be more time and borrowed money to get on with the next World shattering objective. Which is, developing a ‘vaccine’ that eradicates all left wing nut job ‘opinions’ from Humanity forever…………………….

All IMHO and no ‘ex spurt’.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 27, 2022 5:17 am

Corbett Report:
Riley Waggaman on Myth vs Reality in Russia and the deaths of 1 million PutinJabbed pensioners.

will
will
June 27, 2022 6:22 am
will
will
June 27, 2022 6:23 am
will
will
June 27, 2022 6:23 am
Cassie of Sydney
June 27, 2022 6:26 am

Very good piece by Janet A in today’s Oz…

“Lisa Wilkinson puts media vigilantes in the dock
JANET ALBRECHTSEN

Understandably, many lawyers are quietly expecting charges to be laid against Lisa Wilkinson, star of Network 10’s The Project. Senior silks well versed in the finer detail of laws that prohibit a person from interfering with the administration of justice are asking this: If Wilkinson is not prosecuted, what more does a person need to do to attract the attention of the authorities entrusted to ensure the fair trial of a defendant?

Lawyers who have spoken to The Australian recall the 1987 case where the NSW Court of Appeal found then premier Neville Wran guilty of interfering with the administration of justice when he made a comment about the decision by the same court to grant a new trial of his close friend, Lionel Murphy.

Consider the facts in this case. Wran made this off-the-cuff remark: “I have a deep conviction that Mr Justice Murphy is innocent of any wrongdoing.” Wran’s unplanned remark was in response to a journalist’s question during a press conference in a corridor held to launch a trade fair. Giving oral evidence, Wran said he had no conscious intention to interfere with justice, only to defend his close friend. Wran told the court that had he remained silent it would have appeared as if he were distancing himself from his best friend. Giving evidence, Wran said he wasn’t thinking about whether a comment would interfere with a fair trial, “and when I think about it now, what I said … would have had as much impact upon … a fair trial as a snowflake in a furnace”.

The court disagreed. It didn’t matter that Wran made an off-the-cuff remark. It didn’t matter that Wran was speaking about his belief that Murphy was innocent: statements as to innocence can equally fall within the prohibition as statements about guilt. It didn’t matter that Wran had no intention to interfere with a fair trial.

Finding Wran guilty, the court said: “We have no doubt that Mr Wran’s making of the statement was reckless as to what its effect might be upon the due administration of justice in relation to (Murphy’s) new trial.” Fining him $25,000, the court said it would deter others. Nationwide News was found guilty of the same offence for publishing Wran’s comments in The Daily Telegraph, and was fined $200,000.

Fast-forward to 2022. Last week, ACT Supreme Court Justice Lucy McCallum said this about Lisa Wilkinson’s comments at the Logies a few days earlier: “The implicit premise of (Lisa Wilkinson’s speech) is to celebrate the truthfulness of the story she exposed.” The judge said “what concerns me the most … is that the distinction between an allegation and a finding of guilt has been completely obliterated”.

Following those damning comments by McCallum, the ACT DPP must be considering whether to lay charges against Wilkinson under section 714 of the ACT’s Criminal Code.

That section says it is a criminal offence if a person “publishes something that could cause a miscarriage of justice in a legal proceeding”. If done intentionally, the maximum penalty is imprisonment for 10 years or a fine of $160,000, or both. If the person does so recklessly, the maximum penalty is $112,000 and a seven-year jail term, or both.

Senior lawyers have told The Australian that what Wilkinson did is arguably much worse than what Wran did. Consider and contrast the evidence about Wilkinson and Wran. First, Wilkinson’s comments were planned. She read from a piece of paper. Second, prior to the Logies, she told ACT DPP Shane Drumgold that any speech she gave would be broadcast by Channel 9, the rival network that carried the Logies event. In other words, Wilkinson knew her comments would be published widely across the country. Third, Wilkinson knew the dangers of interfering with the administration of justice; she warned others by tweeting about the danger on August 6, 2021. Fourth, Wilkinson spoke with Drumgold in advance about her possible speech, with Drumgold warning her but refusing to act as a “speech editor”. Fifth, it is not unreasonable to surmise Wilkinson had an obvious interest in securing a conviction against Bruce Lehrmann, the man accused of rape by Brittany Higgins.

A guilty verdict would vindicate Wilkinson’s work. A not guilty verdict would raise questions as to why a man’s reputation and life has been wrecked, and whether Higgins’s version of the boozy night that ended in a minister’s office was false. Remember what McCallum said: “The implicit premise of (Wilkinson’s speech) was to celebrate the truthfulness of the story she exposed.”

Under section 714, the hurdle is whether something “could” cause a miscarriage of justice. Not whether it would. The section alludes to the possibility, not probability, of something causing a miscarriage of justice.

Undertakings given by Wilkinson and Network 10 late last week promising to refrain from further commentary of the case are a distraction. They are not the end of the matter. It would be an odd state of affairs, to say the least, if a person can avoid charges for alleged wrongdoing that has happened by promising to obey the law in future. Every citizen implicitly agrees to abide by the law every single day, without the need for undertakings being given to a DPP or a court.

Given that the DPP’s earlier conversation with Wilkinson about her Logies speech makes it possible that he would be a witness in any trial of Wilkinson, the appropriate course is for him to delegate his prosecutorial powers in this matter to a member of staff at his office. That way, there can be independent consideration of whether criminal proceedings should be instituted against Wilkinson. Of course, to avoid yet another media circus prejudicing Lehrmann’s trial, any prosecution of Wilkinson will have to follow the conclusion of that rape trial.

If Wilkinson is not charged, it begs the question of whether there is a separate standard for a woke princess? Would a conservative journalist receive the same treatment from the ACT DPP?

Trial by media of alleged sexual assault cases has become open slather in the past few years, pursued by those who think their cause is above the presumption of innocence. Media witch hunts, relying on the scantest of evidence, have ruined lives.

There is a sure-fire way to stop this damaging zealotry. Prosecute those who interfere with the administration of justice. That will force the media vigilantes to pull their heads in. The rule of law means those laws that protect a fair trial apply equally whether you are a celebrity, a politician or an ordinary citizen.”

Cassie of Sydney
June 27, 2022 6:28 am

I should add that I’m glad Scumbag Morrison is no longer PM, he would already weighed in saying ‘leave Lisa alone”.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 27, 2022 6:44 am

That’s some pretty good Dilbert.

Appreciated, Will.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 27, 2022 6:48 am

I have some problems with the accuracy of Albrechtsen’s piece. Serious problems.

Wilkinson could have been described, dependent on the eye of the beholder several decades ago as ‘a woke princess’.

In the interests of journalistic integrity, she should perhaps have used the more accurate descriptor of ‘woke sandblasted harridan’.

Foul, inside and out. You wouldn’t cross the road to throw rocks at it.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
June 27, 2022 6:57 am

Dear oh dear, Lotsa Work Lisa is in a whole world of bother. What about a letter writing campaign to the Attorney General of the ACT. It is unconscionable if the overwoked and overworked media veteran in her 60s is not prosecuted within an inch of her overstretched neck.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
June 27, 2022 7:01 am

That calumnies against Cardinal George Pell did not see Louse Milligan and all media outlets in the dock shows the failure and degeneracy of our legal system.

Dot
Dot
June 27, 2022 7:08 am

What the world needs is the WhatsApp etc chats of “Jay”, Wilkinson, Higgins, the Adelaide Literary chick, Wong, Milligan etc.

Not that I condone any form of illegal behaviour.

Dot
Dot
June 27, 2022 7:12 am

Perhaps John Cain III and Dan Andrews were privately horrified regarding the Pell prosecution.

“Gee Dan I’m going to look really bad given this accuser has potentially perjured himself at the committal and he has already changed his statement three times…and they’re not consistent with actual chronological events such as renovations of the building….”

If only they left their laptop or diary in a hotel etc.

Cassie of Sydney
June 27, 2022 7:13 am

“That calumnies against Cardinal George Pell did not see Louse Milligan and all media outlets in the dock shows the failure and degeneracy of our legal system.”

Quite so. I think we all need to understand that Ms Cane Toad Wilkinson’s speech last week didn’t come out of no where. It isn’t attributable to naivety or ignorance. The fact is that Wilkinson, her husband and their fellow scum that make up much of the MSM and social media sewers in this country think two things….

1. They’re better than you and me.

2. They’re above the law. In the case of Ms Cane Toad, she and her equally ghastly husband have already passed judgment. No trial needs to proceed. The accused is guilty, guilty, guilty.

The fact that these two parasitical pieces of excrement are given any airtime whatsoever is a sad indictment of this pathetic country.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 27, 2022 7:21 am

That shrill noise is still there. Faint, but there – certainly there in this reverse-engineered piece in the Hun:

Covid vaccines prevented an estimated 20 million deaths worldwide in the first year of their availability, a new study has found.

Researchers estimate that 19.8 million out of a total of 31.4 million potential deaths were prevented in the first year after vaccines were introduced (December 8, 2020 to December 8, 2021).

Yep. Sure. Research. By ‘researchers’. Peter FitzSimons has ‘researchers’ too. Based on modelling, right? Where was this published?

The study, published in The Lancet Infectious Diseases journal was based on data from 185 countries and territories and was the first to assess deaths averted directly and indirectly as a result of Covid vaccination, the authors wrote.

Heeere we go. Naturally this will be latched onto by troughers desperate to retain a profile, and perhaps some funding that goes with that:

The news was welcomed by University of Queensland School of Medicine Associate Professor Paul Griffin, also the director of infectious diseases at Mater Health Services in Brisbane.

“There will be people that are eligible for five vaccines now and a number of people don’t know about that. It’s also important for people to get tested when they have symptoms, practise good hand hygiene, socially distance where possible and use masks.”

Eleventy billion deaths prevented. One hundred and eighty vaccines per person. Righto. Later in the piece Perfessor Marx reveals what he really wants to achieve:

Professor Griffin said another important finding from The Lancet study was the inequities in vaccination rates – and death rates – between low and high-income countries. “It’s really important that we get equitable coverage globally with these vaccines,” he said.

Right at the end, the reader is advised who wrote this ambitious drivel:

Lead author Dr Oliver Watson, from the Imperial College London, said it was an important study.

Well he would say that, wouldn’t he?

“Our findings offer the most complete assessment to date of the remarkable global impact that vaccination has had on the Covid-19 pandemic,” he said.

Fuck off idiot.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 27, 2022 7:23 am

…the overwoked and overworked media veteran…

Overwoked.
An exciting and valuable new adjective.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 27, 2022 7:32 am

Ed Casesays:
June 27, 2022 at 4:08 am
Lisa Wilkinson’s high-priced lawyer is being paid $11,000-a-day following her disastrous Logies speech.

Since it’s ended her well paid Media career, what was in it for Lisa to make the speech?

She’s a Spook, Bandanna Man’s a Flamer?

Dot
Dot
June 27, 2022 7:34 am

“Our findings offer the most complete assessment to date of the remarkable global impact that vaccination has had on the Covid-19 pandemic,” he said

There is evidence that COVID was endemic in Western Europe as far back as March 2019 (Spanish wastewater samples).

The whole public health exercise, mandates, declared pandemic and two years of house arrest and destruction of lives and incomes was a tragic waste we will permanently be less well off from.

It is now almost 3.5 years since then and despite a massive infection rate AND mandatory vaccinations, we still are living under mandates, compulsory vaccines and states of emergency, even followed up by absurd bonuses for “overworked” public ‘elves.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 27, 2022 7:37 am

Local bike with falling Insta numbers reacts to the Supreme Court of The Other Side Of The World’s decision which will not impact her in the slightest (the Hun):

Former Miss Universe Australia Maria Thattil has revealed she had an abortion at age 21 as she described the US Supreme Court’s anti-abortion ruling as a “surreal, dystopian nightmare”.

I will give this statement some credit at the exact instant Thattil explains what she thinks ‘surreal’ and ‘dystopian’ means.

“I cannot imagine what I would’ve done had my right to healthcare been criminalised,’’ she wrote.

She didn’t write it. She typed it, in all likelihood with multiple eggplant emojis.

Hopefully THOT Maria has worked on her technique since getting filled in by that random inside that pub dunny that time.

Practice, Maria. Practice, practice, practice.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 27, 2022 7:39 am

She’s a Spook, Bandanna Man’s a Flamer?

Likely. I’d say.

He didn’t write that book on HMAS Sydney by accident.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 27, 2022 7:42 am

Haha.

‘Shocked’: The extortionate cost of charging EVs at motorway service stations laid bare (26 Jun)

New figures have revealed the alarming cost of charging an electric vehicle at a motorways service station, with many outlets charging as much as 8p more per mile than the equivalent filling up on petrol or diesel.

The research by Which? saw testers plugging two EVs into rapid and ultra-rapid public chargers to establish how much it costs per mile.
They looked at running costs of a family Hyundai Kona and a more powerful Mercedes-Benz EQC.

With a 55p per kwh ultra rapid charger, the EQC cost 24p per mile. It was 16.2p for the petrol equivalent and 19.5p for diesel.

The Kona cost 14.8p per mile using an ultra-rapid charger, compared to 13.6p for the petrol, reported The Mirror.

British data, but I suspect the same here since Tesla increased the supercharger price in Australia to 52c/kWh two years ago, which was then roughly double retail c/kWh. It’ll be a lot higher than that in the near future too, what with the current power price crisis.

calli
calli
June 27, 2022 7:42 am

You wouldn’t cross the road to throw rocks at it.

I would. I want to see what a bit of blue metal does to the brittle plastic.

Would it come off in flakes or sheets? Or maybe goes all powdery and blows away in the breeze? Consider it a scientific experiment.

Dot
Dot
June 27, 2022 7:44 am

Bruce

Price up my all in one off grid system. I didn’t ask for an NPV. I expect the initial outlay will be horrific, that’s what I’m asking for.

I actually expect 150k for it to work and 250k for it to be safe and reliable.

calli
calli
June 27, 2022 7:46 am

“I cannot imagine what I would’ve done had my right to healthcare been criminalised,’’ she wrote.

While she’s working on “surreal” and “dystopian”, she might want to have a go at “healthcare” as well.

“Right” might be a bridge too far.

Dot
Dot
June 27, 2022 7:46 am

Former Miss Universe Australia Maria Thattil has revealed she had an abortion at age 21 as she described the US Supreme Court’s anti-abortion ruling as a “surreal, dystopian nightmare”.

I will give you some fatherly, Aaron Clarey esque advice.

That revelation will not help you secure the man you actually want as a husbando.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 27, 2022 7:50 am

I will give you some fatherly, Aaron Clarey esque advice

If you give her some Julian Clary-esque advice, that will also prevent the need for any abortion.

132andBush
132andBush
June 27, 2022 8:01 am

Would it come off in flakes or sheets? Or maybe goes all powdery and blows away in the breeze? Consider it a scientific experiment.

I think shattered and bulged inwards without breaking completely.
A vision of my ute windscreen after the wedgie nearly made it through on Christmas Eve springs to mind.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
June 27, 2022 8:04 am

Great article by Janet A.

Leaves a few questions though…

Why would Fleeca contact the ACT DPP prior to the speech?

Is Fleeca Wilko taking a well earned break? Have a gap month? On hiatus? Stood down? Or god forbid working on a new work of fiction?

Are Ch 10 going to sue the Australian as per their gas lighting the media last week?

miltonf
miltonf
June 27, 2022 8:04 am

1. They’re better than you and me.

Yes they really do believe this even though playing sport and writing muck don’t actually create wealth like mining coal does.

2. They’re above the law. In the case of Ms Cane Toad, she and her equally ghastly husband have already passed judgment. No trial needs to proceed. The accused is guilty, guilty, guilty.
correct

The fact that these two parasitical pieces of excrement are given any airtime whatsoever is a sad indictment of this pathetic country.
They meja here slavishly follows the US meja and the Australian left in general takes all its cues from the American left. Yes they are parasitical pieces of excrement and there is something seriously wrong with an economy that makes such trash fantastically wealthy.

I think TV has been one of the worst inventions ever.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 27, 2022 8:05 am

Tesla increased the supercharger price in Australia to 52c/kWh two years ago, which was then roughly double retail c/kWh. It’ll be a lot higher than that in the near future too, what with the current power price crisis.

Are you some sort of socialist, Bruce?

All these renewables chaps have to make a windfall profit. Why should the humble chargers miss out on their taste of the rich cream when windfarmers are currently selling ‘too cheap to meter’ power at $450/MWh.

min
min
June 27, 2022 8:08 am

I see the Histrionic narcissists are at it again up in Sydney .

Crossie
Crossie
June 27, 2022 8:12 am

What I find incomprehensible is a situation like that of a friend’s daughter. Newly married, she found out she was pregnant and had an abortion. When I asked her why she said her husband thought it would be best so they can continue saving for a house.

They went on to buy the house and to have two children but the marriage has been on the point of dissolution several times.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 27, 2022 8:14 am

Liberty quote from Aaron Clarey:

“I cannot rejoice enough in your suffering because of your stupidity and cowardice”

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 27, 2022 8:15 am

I hope all the security cameras are working.

Ghislaine Maxwell Put on Suicide Watch Ahead of Sentencing: Lawyer (26 Jun)

Jailed former socialite Ghislaine Maxwell has been placed on suicide watch — despite not being suicidal — according to her lawyers, who said they would move to postpone her sentencing for sex trafficking if she remained in isolation.

On suicide watch without being suicidal? Whatever do they mean by that…?

lotocoti
lotocoti
June 27, 2022 8:16 am

Haha.
Part II.
Swampies paying 230 quid to cheer on millionaires telling them capitalism has failed them are outraged by the cost of charging their EVs.

min
min
June 27, 2022 8:18 am

Well they certainly did not discuss plans re babies and houses and then methods of contraception . Surely in this day and age she wasn’ t a virgin when she got married .

calli
calli
June 27, 2022 8:19 am

I see the Histrionic narcissists are at it again up in Sydney .

Which ones, min?

Sydney is rich with them.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 27, 2022 8:22 am

Why would Fleeca contact the ACT DPP prior to the speech?

She is a witness.
To what, nobody knows.

Is Fleeca Wilko taking a well earned break? Have a gap month? On hiatus? Stood down? Or god forbid working on a new work of fiction?

Off until mid-July.
Both viewers of The Project are said to be distraught.

Are Ch 10 going to sue the Australian as per their gas lighting the media last week?

No.
They are broke.
They can’t afford to back dead horses.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 27, 2022 8:26 am

Another Cartoon Tom – posted on Rafe’s Top Thread

You can add this cartoon

http://stevehunterillustrations.com.au/_Media/shut-them-down2_2290.jpeg

Outstanding Steve Hunter cartoon.

A reality check for EU, USA, Japan and Australia.

Thanks to their Slave Army of Useful Idiots of the Left embedded in Western countries the Chicomms can do as they please.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 27, 2022 8:33 am

Swampies paying 230 quid to cheer on millionaires telling them capitalism has failed them are outraged by the cost of charging their EVs.

They got the Doom Pixie treatment too.

Greta Thunberg Preaches ‘Climate Justice’ at ‘Middle Class’ Glastonbury Festival (26 Jun)

Hardline green agenda activist Greta Thunberg showed up at the Glastonbury music festival on Saturday to lecture middle-class concertgoers on climate change.

Long-time climate activist Greta Thunberg took to the stage at Glastonbury on Saturday to pontificate on the dangers of climate change, seemingly to the delight of many in the gathered crowd.

Having previously been hitting the headlines for attacking the EU over allegedly being too lenient towards nuclear energy, Thunberg announced earlier in the year that she has a book due to be published in autumn that she hopes will become the go-to source on climate change.

According to a report by broadcaster Sky News, the teenage climate activist took to the even stage to decry the current “climate and ecological emergency”.

“The biosphere is not just changing, it is destabilising, it is breaking down,” she claimed, before also reportedly saying that “this is not the new normal”.

Her bible book will be riveting and essential reading no doubt. From the photo it looks like it’s a very pleasant climate and ecological emergency. Normally at Glastonbury I expect great quantities of mud, not sunshine and punters in T-shirts.

Tom
Tom
June 27, 2022 8:37 am

There is a sure-fire way to stop this damaging zealotry. Prosecute those who interfere with the administration of justice. That will force the media vigilantes to pull their heads in.

Boom!

I normally don’t read the Paywallian’s commentary section, but Janet Albrechtsen has nailed it. If Lisa Wilkinson isn’t charged with contempt of court, it will be a green light for every media commentator in Australia to say what they like about criminal trials before they’re heard.

calli
calli
June 27, 2022 8:37 am

Long-time climate activist Greta Thunberg

Heh. The cute Pippi Longstocking image is done and dusted.

She is now a climate veteran.

John Sheldrick
June 27, 2022 8:42 am

The fact that these two parasitical pieces of excrement are given any airtime whatsoever is a sad indictment of this pathetic country.

More like the pathetic MSM ,although this country is unfortunately getting more and more pathetic as each day goes by. It should be extremely pathetic at the end of the next 3 years if not well before so.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 27, 2022 8:45 am

Nice shot at Lisa about Dolly magazine btw.
She illustrated her stupidity by expecting the DPP to “legal” her speech.
She imagined that they might sit together for a couple of hours carefully crafting a “close to the wind, barely legal” speech.
He, very wisely, declined the offer suggesting she bin it.
If he had so much as inserted a comma he would be wearing the backlash right now.

John Sheldrick
June 27, 2022 8:51 am

I think TV has been one of the worst inventions ever.

Next to the invention of the TV, the next greatest invention known to Humankind is the knob (now called a remote) that switches it of.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 27, 2022 8:55 am

If Lisa Wilkinson isn’t charged with contempt of court, it will be a green light for every media commentator in Australia to say what they like about criminal trials before they’re

heard.

True, obviously.

But also yet another brick taken out of the justice system. “Yeah, well, yer ‘onner, I never done the Court Order shit, ‘cos you don’t have to if you don’t want to, innit”.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 27, 2022 8:56 am

Knuckle Draggersays:
June 27, 2022 at 7:39 am
She’s a Spook, Bandanna Man’s a Flamer?

Likely. I’d say.

He didn’t write that book on HMAS Sydney by accident.

Usefool* Idiots more likely. The people I know that work or have worked for ASIO are far brighter on a bad day than them on their best. I was a referee for one, at the end of the interview I told them they’re not very good cause I’m not a citizen. Oh! Usefool*, one for the Catictionary, def. 1. paid up member of the Left. 2. legend in their own lunchtime.

miltonf
miltonf
June 27, 2022 9:00 am

Anal’s off to Spain for a NATO meeting.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 27, 2022 9:01 am

Smelly Germans.

German Vice-Chancellor “Drastically Reduces” Time In Shower To Cope With Energy Crisis (27 Jun)

German Vice-Chancellor and Economy Minister Robert Habeck spoke with Der Spiegel magazine about the need for German citizens to shower less to overcome the worst energy crisis in a generation.

When asked by Der Spiegel about “saving energy in our day-to-day lives,” Habeck responded by saying to shower less.

“I have drastically reduced the amount of time I spend in the shower, but I am a poor example. As a minister, I earn a salary that others can only dream of. Plus, I come home late, get up at 6 a.m., and am out of the house again by 7. With such a schedule, it’s not necessary to heat in winter. For people working from home, retirees with small pensions, and families, it is a different story.

“My counterpart from the Netherlands recently told me proudly that they had launched a campaign intended to cut the average showering time from 10 minutes to five. I had to laugh. I have never showered for five minutes in my life. I shower quickly,” he said.

I suppose not heating your house in winter also helps, as you have so many layers of clothing on the pong can’t get out.

John Sheldrick
June 27, 2022 9:01 am

Professor Griffin said another important finding from The Lancet study was the inequities in vaccination rates – and death rates – between low and high-income countries. “It’s really important that we get equitable coverage globally with these vaccines,” he said.

More Professor Bullshitstein BS. The difference in vaccination/death rates between low and high income countries is because those uneducated low income countries used plain old common sense. Rather than getting everyone jabbed by an experimental emergency approved drug, they went for proven existing preventative anti-viral medicines.

What temerity !!

Dot
Dot
June 27, 2022 9:01 am

I didn’t know Australia was part of NATO.

Cool! When do the Americans start giving us money?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 27, 2022 9:08 am

I spent Saturday evening with my sister and BIL.

He is a likeable enough fellow, but as with so many lefties he has that peculiar progressive Tourette’s where he suddenly erupts with political commentary for no reason.

And from there it is downhill in the information stakes. (He trusts the ABC and Fauxfacts with every ounce of his being…)

My sister and I were talking about someone or other and one of us (I don’t recall which – it was just chit-chat) commented that someone or other was a liar. At this my BIL blurted out that Trump always lied. How about when he told people to drink bleach for Covid. I chose not to rise to this because was enjoying my chat with my sister. But there it is. When some people drunk bleach because Trump had said there was research going into the use of antiseptic* and (laser?) light to fight Covid, that became Trump telling a lie.

This same BIL has a Monty-esque faith in the imminent arrest of Trump throughout Muller’s circus. He was equally surprised when it all came to nothing as I was not.

But back to Saturday evening. He was aghast (in that loaded way where it demands you echo the sentiment as if you are in a play and it is your line) that the SCOTUS had taken away the right to abortions. I pointed out that they had merely found that the right could not be construed from the Constitution and that it simply returned the decision to the states.

He then remarked on the absurdity that it was once decided that there was a right to abortion in the Constitution and now these judges are saying there isn’t and I gently clarified that at one point judges said there was a right and now judges are saying there isn’t. Then the clincher – I pointed out that even RBG had said Row v Wade was bad law. He must have heard this before because he did not outright deny it. But he wistfully opined that it was a pity she did not retire before Trump was President.

I held my tongue rather than point out that right up until the night of the election everyone on the left expected the Hildebeest to romp home. They had deluded themselves and fell for it. Anyway, it was funny how after so many years being a progressive icon and champion, RBG became on her death at best a regret and at worst a monster.

Progressives are so fickle. If a thousand black birds hopped through your door you would assume that the 1,001st would be black too. You would never trust a progressive to remain loyal to you like that. After a lifetime your 1,001st could easily be a knife in your back.

He pivoted next – again aghast, and a chance for me to redeem myself I suppose – to the all the more startling event where the SCOTUS had knocked down those gun laws in NY. Problem here, of course, is that the right to bear arms is explicitly set out in the Constitution. It even has its own section.

His response was that it says a ‘well regulated militia’, with the emphasis on ‘regulated’. How can SCOTUS knock down such a thing being regulated. I pointed out that at the time of the Constitution was written ‘well regulated’ meant to govern and conduct oneself properly, without succumbing to excesses or vice. People were well regulated when they regulated themselves, not when the government did it for them. (Funny thing is that I had only looked that up about a week before, precisely because it was clear ‘well regulated’ could not have the meaning I had ascribed to it.)

Well, that is quite a ramble. It is just way a lefty mind so often works. They get told what to think and then…stop. They can’t turn something in their hand (so to speak) and look at it from different angles. It is just there, immovable, undeniable, incontrovertible, there.

*I am quite certain this was merely a misspeaking of antibiotic. I have no doubt that, if my BIL was confronted with unassailable proof with no single ambiguity behind which to hide, that Trump did not say to drink bleach, there would be a few moments for cogs to grind and dials recalibrate before he declared with the same utter conviction that he had used with his previous utterance, that Trump meant antiseptic and that was another one of his lies. Obama – the worlds greatest orator – could misspeak (’57 states’, ‘asthmatic baby on a defibrillator’), but with Trump it is all malice and intent. And let’s not get started on the linguistic adventures of the current President.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 27, 2022 9:09 am

Wow. I had no idea that was going to be so long.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 27, 2022 9:11 am

The Lancet?

Didn’t they author a report on the number of civilian deaths in Iraq and come up with some astronomical number because of their comically flawed method?

lotocoti
lotocoti
June 27, 2022 9:12 am

I don’t know, but I’ve been told, TEN’s enterprise agreements contain some
fine fine print about individuals retaining intellectual property rights.
Apparently included so that if someone comes up short when it comes to
sprinkling alleged and/or allegedly throughout their scripts,
the network can pull the pin on legal support if their lawyers at
Scair, DeKatts and Soffcox think they’re on a loser.
Contracts signed by The Talent might be different.

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