Open Thread – Weekend 10 Sept 2022


Road to Racquencourt, Camille Pissarro, 1871

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bespoke
bespoke
September 11, 2022 9:00 am

It’S all getting getting a bit over top Tom.

Indolent
Indolent
September 11, 2022 9:00 am

Take a look at the comments.

U.S. FDA
@US_FDA
Don’t be shocked! You can now #RechargeYourImmunity with an updated #COVID19 booster.
https://fda.gov/update

and in conjunction with this it’s pretty clear that it’s no well meaning mistake but deliberate malice.

lotocoti
lotocoti
September 11, 2022 9:01 am

Bundy and cola slabs must’ve been on special again.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 11, 2022 9:01 am

John Pilger: Silencing the Lambs. How Propaganda Works

In the 1970s, I met one of Hitler’s leading propagandists, Leni Riefenstahl, whose epic films glorified the N@zis. We happened to be staying at the same lodge in Kenya, where she was on a photography assignment, having escaped the fate of other friends of the F@hrer.

She told me that the ‘patriotic messages’ of her films were dependent not on ‘orders from above’ but on what she called the ‘submissive void’ of the German public.

Did that include the liberal, educated bourgeoisie? I asked. ‘Yes, especially them,’ she said.

I think of this as I look around at the propaganda now consuming Western societies.

Of course, we are very different from Germany in the 1930s. We live in information societies. We are globalists. We have never been more aware, more in touch, better connected.

Are we? Or do we live in a Media Society where brainwashing is insidious and relentless, and perception is filtered according to the needs and lies of state and corporate power?

The United States dominates the Western world’s media. All but one of the top ten media companies are based in North America. The internet and social media – Google, Twitter, Facebook – are mostly American owned and controlled.

In my lifetime, the United States has overthrown or attempted to overthrow more than 50 governments, mostly democracies. It has interfered in democratic elections in 30 countries. It has dropped bombs on the people of 30 countries, most of them poor and defenceless. It has attempted to murder the leaders of 50 countries. It has fought to suppress liberation movements in 20 countries.

The extent and scale of this carnage is largely unreported, unrecognized; and those responsible continue to dominate Anglo-American political life.

Last December, Russia proposed a far-reaching security plan for Europe. This was dismissed, derided or suppressed in the Western media. Who read its step-by-step proposals? On 24 February, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy threatened to develop nuclear weapons unless America armed and protected Ukraine. This was the final straw.

On the same day, Russia invaded – according to the Western media, an unprovoked act of congenital infamy. The history, the lies, the peace proposals, the solemn agreements on Donbass at Minsk counted for nothing.

On 25 April, the US Defence Secretary, General Lloyd Austin, flew into Kyiv and confirmed that America’s aim was to destroy the Russian Federation – the word he used was ‘weaken’. America had got the war it wanted, waged by an American bankrolled and armed proxy and expendable pawn.

Almost none of this was explained to Western audiences.

Russia’s invasion of Ukraine is wanton and inexcusable. It is a crime to invade a sovereign country. There are no ‘buts’ – except one.

When did the present war in Ukraine begin and who started it? According to the United Nations, between 2014 and this year, some 14,000 people have been killed in the Kyiv regime’s civil war on the Donbass. Many of the attacks were carried out by neo-N@zis.

Tom
Tom
September 11, 2022 9:02 am

I was wrong. Sky Outsiders is on now. Long live the king!

flyingduk
flyingduk
September 11, 2022 9:04 am

Struthsays: September 11, 2022 at 7:15 am

You were conned. You won’t admit that.

Quite … and that is going to be a significant barrier to moving forward – admitting that not only tears down a whole lot of other civilisational pillars, it also exposes you to the realisation that you yourself got something personally important irretrievably wrong. Most people will never be able to do that and will remain in denial.

https://serendipitygreece.com/comforting-lies-vs-unpleasant-truths/

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 11, 2022 9:05 am

Bosi of the Blue Singlet?
Banana Bosi?
Bosi with a Banjo?

Indolent
Indolent
September 11, 2022 9:05 am

Let’s see how amusing people find this.

Deaths are Soaring in Highly Vaccinated Victoria, Australia

Johnny Rotten
September 11, 2022 9:07 am

Long Live the Queen and Freddie Mercury……………………….

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 11, 2022 9:07 am

Only 20 more days left to save the grifters at the Daily Exposé.

m0nty
September 11, 2022 9:08 am

JC is no boy. I’ve seen more youthful visages on Galapagos turtles.

flyingduk
flyingduk
September 11, 2022 9:08 am

JCsays: September 11, 2022 at 7:35 am

I’m fine. All good except for terrible shoulder pain which the nurse reckons is caused by the op. The pain killer works though. Wow.

Assuming you had what my American friends call a ‘Lap-Appy’ (keyhole surgery), the shoulder pain is likely referred pain from either a bit of blood or remnants of CO2 under your diaphragm. Unfortunately, like all things in medicine, there are 2 remedies 1) sit up (if its blood – to help it drain) or 2) Lie down, turned to the bad side (if its residual CO2 from the laparoscopy).

🙂

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 11, 2022 9:10 am

Get rid of this TWAT. NOW!

Nah. He’s funny in a retarded sort of way, doubling down again and again in the face of repeated abject failure. Keep him, I reckon.

I have no idea what his social media fauxs pas must have been like for the UAP to knock him back (and considering the peanuts with actual criminal histories they accepted), but they would have been rippers if this is the toned-down version.

There will be yet another cause for him to latch onto shortly.

You just know he’s the sort of bloke that sits on the couch with a conveyor belt of Doritos, maxing out the card for every single infomercial that pops up.

bespoke
bespoke
September 11, 2022 9:11 am

Ban Sancho for besmirching Blue Singlets.

How dare you!

flyingduk
flyingduk
September 11, 2022 9:13 am

JC now sits in an understaffed hospital because dumb nurses and doctors who wouldn’t be jabbed aren’t allowed back in.

And the compliant ones are all

1) Off with the ‘rona
2) Off with side effects of the jab
3) Furloughed as ‘close contacts’
4) Skiving off due to poor morale due to resentment at the ‘authorities’ and self loathing once they realised what they had done to themselves

No matter – soon they will be replaced with cheap imports, just like the rest of the population.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 11, 2022 9:13 am

It’s (Almost) Always the Feds: How the FBI Fabricates Schemes To Entrap Would-Be Radicals

The FBI’s long history of using informants and manufactured plots to prosecute extremists

Here’s a tip: If you have some radical political views and an acquaintance reaches out, encourages you to act on your convictions, and maybe offers to introduce you to a guy who can sell you some bomb parts, don’t take him up on it. That guy’s almost definitely working for the feds.

For the past two decades, the FBI and federal prosecutors have brought case after case against would-be radicals who were ratted out by informants. They have been enormously successful in obtaining convictions in these cases, despite persistent criticisms that the FBI uses unscrupulous informants, conjures up the very plots it disrupts, and entraps defendants who have little to no ability to actually carry out a terror attack.

It looked like the case against the Michigan militia members who allegedly plotted to kidnap Democratic Gov. Gretchen Whitmer in October 2020 was going to be another data point in that trend: an extremist group riddled with FBI informants set up to take the fall for all their big talk. An unusual thing happened, though. The jury didn’t buy it. When the verdicts were read a year and a half later in March, two of the militia members were acquitted, and the jury deadlocked on the other two.

‘You Actually Had To Have Articulable Facts’

The sort of informant-led investigation that resulted in the arrests of the Wolverine Watchmen is largely due to the rollback of Watergate-era restrictions on the FBI following 9/11. The Whitmer case wasn’t just a poorly conceived investigation; it was the direct result of a strategic internal policy change that allowed the FBI to begin targeting people who had done nothing illegal in order to prosecute the war on terror.

‘There Are a Lot of People Who Are Understandably Very Concerned About Mr. Epps’

“Exactly how many of those present at the Capitol complex on January 6 were FBI confidential informants, agents, or otherwise, working directly or indirectly with an agency of the United States government?” Donald Trump asked at a January 15 rally in Arizona. “People want to hear this. How about the one guy, ‘Go in, go in, get in there, everybody,’ Epps. ‘Get in there, go, go, go.’ Nothing happens to him. What happened with him? Nothing happens.”

Zipster
Zipster
September 11, 2022 9:13 am

Unfortunately, they’re not cracking down on actual crime that affects the American people; they’re cracking down on Biden’s political enemies

they know they are toast if Trump wins in 24

lotocoti
lotocoti
September 11, 2022 9:14 am

Touch of tar*: Check.
Alphabet person: Check.
Perfesser: Check.
Imbecile: Confirmed.

Instead of handing back, making reparations from her enormous wealth …

*H/T Thomas Keneally

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 11, 2022 9:17 am

Ban Sancho for besmirching Blue Singlets.

Yeah bastard!
There was a woodcutter in town when I was a kid called Big Reg.
Reggie wore a blue shearers singlet in all weather. The singlet hardly touched his body because the hair that covered the big bugger was that thick and long.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 11, 2022 9:19 am

Johnny Rottensays:
September 11, 2022 at 9:07 am
Long Live the Queen and Freddie Mercury……………………….

The Queen with Paddington Bear and “We Will Rock You” by Queen with Adam Lambert

Louis Litt
Louis Litt
September 11, 2022 9:20 am

JC – your comment at 2.08 pm on 10/9/22
What’s you reasoning, fascism cops it communism gets off lightly.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 11, 2022 9:21 am

I have no idea what his social media fauxs pas must have been like for the UAP to knock him back …

And go with a furriner COW, what’s worser.

(and considering the peanuts with actual criminal histories they accepted), but they would have been rippers if this is the toned-down version.

You would of loved to be one of the many flies on his wall when the knock back call came threw.
I’ll bet they tried to neutralise the pre-election online bile with a gentle let-down.
“Yeah, sorry mate, but your not the right fit this time. To be honest, your a bit too smart and ahead of your time for this electorate. But Cloive is impressed. Very impressed. He’s got big things planned for you. Really big things. We’ll be in touch.
…..
What’s that? Yeah, nah, we’ll call you.”

(Spelling and grammar deliberate to assist the print handicapped).

Johnny Rotten
September 11, 2022 9:23 am

I don’t like Albo but he has just said some nice things about the Queen and the Monarchy. And then he went on with the usual BS left wing shite.

FARK OFF ALBO.

flyingduk
flyingduk
September 11, 2022 9:24 am

You did go private didn’t you?

I did, but it makes no huge difference I think Bear. You still wait. Waited 8 hours in ER. Waited for 3 days before getting on the slab…..

Pro tip – us insiders know that ‘the slab’ is the cold hard table they put you on after you cark it from your op. We refer to the softer, warmer table they use for the actual op as the ‘table’.

bespoke
bespoke
September 11, 2022 9:24 am

(Spelling and grammar deliberate to assist the print handicapped).

Cheers.

Cassie of Sydney
September 11, 2022 9:26 am

“I’m trying to think what the death of the Queen represents. People are saying it’s the end of an era, but what freaking era is that.

I think it marks the end of the post war era.”

Actually JC, I’ve been thinking about this for the last two days, ever since I heard the news on Friday morning. I believe Queen Elizabeth’s passing marks the official end of a moral world and in particular the end of a moral West. Maybe I’m being too maudlin but to me her death is a portent, akin to the sack of Rome.

We’ve seen the writing on the world over the last two decades, but her passing now confirms how much we live in a decadent and immoral West, a post-Christian West, a West that celebrates the obscene, the pagan, the promiscuous, the opposite of truth, the vulgar, the indecent, the tawdry, the obnoxious, the dissolute, the lewd and the self-indulgent. In contrast Queen Elizabeth (and her generation) stood for duty, sacrifice, service, fidelity, loyalty, patriotism, devotion, decency, stoicism, self-control, and discretion.

I was struck by all of this last night watching the broadcast from London of the proclamation of Charles as King Charles III. It was a dignified, historical and dutiful occasion, full of majestic pageantry that the Brits do so well yet, only two weeks ago, the same city played host to a festival called the Notting Hill festival, it is a festival of vulgarity, of lewdness, of promiscuity, of violence (particularly towards women…but that violence is okay, because it was largely perpetrated by men of Caribbean origin), of fetishes and of obscenity.

A question to my fellow Cats, what values are better for societies?

I think we all know the answer.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 11, 2022 9:27 am

bespokesays:

September 11, 2022 at 9:11 am

Ban Sancho for besmirching Blue Singlets.

How dare you!

No, no.
You misunderstand.
Blueys are fine.
I’m besmirching the low IQ fuckwit from Queensssland who arrives here every day with his “The End Is Nigh!” sandwich-board.
You know … the boatless one.

Cassie of Sydney
September 11, 2022 9:27 am

Tom, Outsiders is on.

Zipster
Zipster
September 11, 2022 9:27 am
bespoke
bespoke
September 11, 2022 9:28 am

I’m not a cat.

Cassie of Sydney
September 11, 2022 9:28 am

“Tomsays:
September 11, 2022 at 9:02 am”

Sorry Tom…missed that.

flyingduk
flyingduk
September 11, 2022 9:29 am

Re the shortage of Cannuck Drs (not just the dead ones)

https://theconversation.com/with-family-doctors-heading-for-the-exits-addressing-the-crisis-in-primary-care-is-key-to-easing-pressure-on-emergency-rooms-189199

We must look upstream to primary care where about 86 per cent of Canadians trust family doctors to assist them in staying healthy.

*theres* your problem: said Drs are paid to read big pharma and big foods ‘scripts’, NOT to keep *you* healthy!

JC
JC
September 11, 2022 9:29 am

Thanks Duk.

The surgeon came around, and wasn’t very specific with the cause but explained what you said. It’s referred pain. He said it should go in a few days tops.

m0nty
September 11, 2022 9:32 am

Queen Elizabeth’s death is symbolic and will be used by historians to refer to a certain age in hindsight, but it doesn’t mean anything real in the present.

If it upsets upper class twits who see it as a sign of their privilege dissolving in a new age where they don’t get respect just for being who they are… then some good will come if it.

bespoke
bespoke
September 11, 2022 9:32 am

Darn Sancho now I don’t have an excuse to bitch and nag for the next decade.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 11, 2022 9:32 am

You got a drain tube in JC?
They fuckin’ sting coming out.
Just thought I’d let you know.

You’re welcome.

m0nty
September 11, 2022 9:33 am

I am amused at the thought that JC is now literally a windbag.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 11, 2022 9:35 am

Why Did US Torpedo The April Ukraine War Negotiated Settlement?

Most Americans are unaware how close Russia and Ukraine came to ending the current war in April.

Last March 27, Ukraine president Zelensky told his people “Our goal is obvious – peace and the restoration of normal life in our native state as soon as possible.”

He was hinting at what went unsaid: Ukraine and Russia, brokered by NATO member Turkey, reached a tentative fifteen-point peace plan to end the month old war.

Key points were Russia withdraw from all Ukraine except for breakaway Donbas and Crimea. Ukraine would pass on future NATO membership, pledging neutrality between Russia and NATO. Donbas and Crimea would undergo political transition based on self-determination to be recognized by both combatants. Ukraine security would be guaranteed by neighboring countries but no foreign troops would enter Ukraine.

What’s not to like?

For the US weapons makers, the end to a weapons manufacturing boondoggle. That $60 billion in free weaponry to Ukraine fighters has depleted our ammo dumps.

For the US military, the end to a new perpetual war, albeit a proxy one, to relieve the boredom of peace.

For the political class, the end to the new Cold War with Russia to weaken, marginalize, and keep them from economic integration with Europe.

Meanwhile…

So on April 9, Uncle Sam sent Boris Johnson, the latest version of America’s British Prime Minister poodle, to Kiev, to school Zelensky on who’s running the war. The UK, Johnson advised “was in it for the long run,” would not be party to any Ukraine, Russian agreement since the “collective West” saw a chance to “press” Russia and make the most of it. Johnson cannot be accused of subtlety.

Two weeks later, the US sent Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin to Kyiv to reinforce Johnson’s warning and make clear the US and NATO were determined to use the war to “weaken” Russia. NATO ally Turkey has blamed the US and UK for sabotaging a promising chance to end the war early on.

When it comes to provoking, preventing and prolonging senseless war, America always fails the test of peace. Getting back to the question posed: Why did the US torpedo the April Ukraine war negotiated settlement?

Because we can.

flyingduk
flyingduk
September 11, 2022 9:35 am

We’ve seen the writing on the world over the last two decades, but her passing now confirms how much we live in a decadent and immoral West, a post-Christian West, a West that celebrates the obscene, the pagan, the promiscuous, the opposite of truth, the vulgar, the indecent, the tawdry, the obnoxious, the dissolute, the lewd and the self-indulgent. In contrast Queen Elizabeth (and her generation) stood for duty, sacrifice, service, fidelity, loyalty, patriotism, devotion, decency, stoicism, self-control, and discretion

And thus falleth all great empires – all we can do now is strap in and enjoy the ride.

JC
JC
September 11, 2022 9:36 am

I’ve always been a windbag, Fatboy. You’ve always been fat.

Crossie
Crossie
September 11, 2022 9:37 am

bespoke says:
September 11, 2022 at 8:48 am
You still wait. Waited 8 hours in ER. Waited for 3 days before getting on the slab
Only took twenty minutes in ER for mine. Did you go to a GP first, JC?

You are forgetting one important thing. This is present day Victoria.

JC
JC
September 11, 2022 9:39 am

And this is going back up Fatboy.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/91779052@N00/4459193302/in/photostream/lightbox/

Also, I been cooped for four days and I’m bored to hell, so excuse me if I’ve posted more comments than you like.

JC
JC
September 11, 2022 9:40 am

Sancho Panzer says:
September 11, 2022 at 9:32 am

You got a drain tube in JC?
They fuckin’ sting coming out.
Just thought I’d let you know.

You’re welcome.

No, but thanks for the kind thought, Sanchez.

flyingduk
flyingduk
September 11, 2022 9:41 am

m0ntysays: September 11, 2022 at 9:33 am
I am amused at the thought that JC is now literally a windbag.

(never quote me on this monty, but …) well played sir!

flyingduk
flyingduk
September 11, 2022 9:43 am

Also, I been cooped for four days and I’m bored to hell, so excuse me if I’ve posted more comments than you like.

enough time to binge watch all 5 seasons of ‘Yellowstone’ I would think.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 11, 2022 9:45 am

EXCLUSIVE: ‘The most extraordinary honor of my life’: Former president Donald J. Trump writes movingly for DailyMail.com of his time with the ‘iconic’ Queen – and her riposte when he asked: ‘Who WAS your favorite PM?’

. Former President lauds the late Queen’s ‘grace, charm, nobility… she was an icon to the world and her loss is felt by billions’
. She was beloved by the American People like few others – the Queen was truly special to us,’ he writes
.Gives a heartfelt account of ‘talking the whole evening’ and being with her ‘side-by-side’ during his state visit to the UK…memories he and Melania will ‘cherish for the rest of our lives’
. Says ‘she saw her country through the Blitz of London, the Cold War, the Falklands conflict, the coal miners’ strikes, Brexit, COVID, and so much more – she was always there for her people—resolute and unflappable’
. ‘Her Majesty missed nothing,’ he writes. ‘She always knew exactly what to say…’ revealing her answer to his intriguing question about Britain’s PMs
. As we grieve,’ he writes, ‘we are comforted that King Charles III will be a great and outstanding successor… Melania and I were blessed to get to know him well… he will be an inspiration to the British People’
. His generous tribute concludes: ‘She was Britain at its best. God bless the Queen. God bless her family. God bless the United Kingdom’

Johnny Rotten
September 11, 2022 9:45 am

Laurie Tingle is a Political Tart. NFI

How do you change the Australian Constitution to get a President? Good luck with that.

lotocoti
lotocoti
September 11, 2022 9:46 am

You got a drain tube in JC?
They fuckin’ sting coming out.
Just thought I’d let you know.

A chest drain coming out certainly smarts,
but yeeting pacing wires is weird beyond words.

JC
JC
September 11, 2022 9:46 am

I’ve watched all episodes, Duk. Great, great series.

m0nty
September 11, 2022 9:46 am

Key points were Russia withdraw from all Ukraine except for breakaway Donbas and Crimea. Ukraine would pass on future NATO membership, pledging neutrality between Russia and NATO. Donbas and Crimea would undergo political transition based on self-determination to be recognized by both combatants. Ukraine security would be guaranteed by neighboring countries but no foreign troops would enter Ukraine.

What’s not to like?

At the end of this it is looking more likely that Donbas and Crimea will return to Ukraine. So yeah, good move not to appease Putin’s invasion.

Cassie of Sydney
September 11, 2022 9:48 am

“At the end of this it is looking more likely that Donbas and Crimea will return to Ukraine. “

LOL…my God you’re a moron.

bespoke
bespoke
September 11, 2022 9:48 am

Yes mine was well before Crossie.
Cheers

Tom
Tom
September 11, 2022 9:50 am

We’ve seen the writing on the world over the last two decades, but her passing now confirms how much we live in a decadent and immoral West, a post-Christian West, a West that celebrates the obscene, the pagan, the promiscuous, the opposite of truth, the vulgar, the indecent, the tawdry, the obnoxious, the dissolute, the lewd and the self-indulgent. In contrast Queen Elizabeth (and her generation) stood for duty, sacrifice, service, fidelity, loyalty, patriotism, devotion, decency, stoicism, self-control, and discretion.

Brilliantly summed up, Cassie. But I would add that we still live in a world of fundamentally decent people. Our rulers are the primitive savages, worshipping the animist hippy religion of climate doom, which aims to abolish the free market and take our living standards back to the Middle Ages.

JC
JC
September 11, 2022 9:52 am

No, don’t just accept these kids are stupid as they aren’t. Blame the American teachers union – THE most toxic organization in the West other than the Demonrat party.

https://twitter.com/The_Real_Fly/status/1568732977277943813

cohenite
September 11, 2022 9:52 am

I’m fine. All good except for terrible shoulder pain which the nurse reckons is caused by the op. The pain killer works though. Wow.

Shoulder?! What has your shoulder got to do with your transitioning surgery. Fess up head prefect, what is really going on?

Johnny Rotten
September 11, 2022 9:52 am

m0ntysays:
September 11, 2022 at 9:32 am
Queen Elizabeth’s death is symbolic and will be used by historians to refer to a certain age in hindsight, but it doesn’t mean anything real in the present.

If it upsets upper class twits who see it as a sign of their privilege dissolving in a new age where they don’t get respect just for being who they are… then some good will come if it.

You Fat TWAT. The Royalty is another arm of our Institutions. So who would be a President here? And the ‘Pollies’ want to make the choice here? Get fucked. We the People need to make the choice.

m0nty
September 11, 2022 9:54 am

Cassie, have you not been keeping up with the news? Putin’s invasion forces are Russian away from the front line quick sticks. It’s a bit of a rout.

The US decided to teach Putin a lesson, and the Russkies are getting it good and hard.

cohenite
September 11, 2022 9:54 am
P
P
September 11, 2022 9:57 am
Boambee John
Boambee John
September 11, 2022 9:57 am

At the end of this it is looking more likely that Donbas and Crimea will return to Ukraine. So yeah, good move not to appease Putin’s invasion.

Stick to fantasy football, you have at least some chance of being correct there.

JC
JC
September 11, 2022 9:57 am

There was a recent poll from a couple of weeks back. 30% of those polled wanted the US to go fight Russia because of the Ukraine incident. Who are these people?

Cassie of Sydney
September 11, 2022 9:58 am

“Cassie, have you not been keeping up with the news? Putin’s invasion forces are Russian away from the front line quick sticks. It’s a bit of a rout.

The US decided to teach Putin a lesson, and the Russkies are getting it good and hard.”

As I wrote above, you’re a moron, and that’s insulting to other morons.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 11, 2022 9:58 am

Private hospitals are like private golf courses. Basically just the same – but nicer.

I gave up private health insurance a while ago. I’m not really too big on insurance generally. I’m pretty sure I didn’t have comprehensive car insurance for years. No accidents helped.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 11, 2022 10:01 am

mUnty opens up a rich, new seam of wrongology. Fuckwit.

Cassie of Sydney
September 11, 2022 10:01 am

Monty should volunteer to go help Ukraine fight Russia.

Cassie of Sydney
September 11, 2022 10:02 am

“I gave up private health insurance a while ago. “

I’m very grateful for my private health insurance. I consider it money well worth spent.

Tom
Tom
September 11, 2022 10:03 am

Thanks for that pic*, JC. Unfortunately, my copy had gone to God in an old laptop and I now have a new copy in my files. Much appreciated.

*The Cat’s fat troll trying to play golf.

bespoke
bespoke
September 11, 2022 10:04 am

Who are these people?

Chicken Hawk, keyboard warriors, front bar urges.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 11, 2022 10:04 am

J R

So who would be a President here? And the ‘Pollies’ want to make the choice here? Get fucked. We the People need to make the choice.

The pollie-muppets got their collective arses handed to them on a plate last time because they would not allow a vote for the president. It will happen again if they do not budge.

Of course m0nty-fa, running dog lackey of the fascist establishment will always support the establishment’s “right” to make a choice over the unenlightened masses, who cannot be relied on to do the “right”(ie, politically correct) thing.

m0nty
September 11, 2022 10:07 am

Putin’s poodles in the media and on socials are not having a good time of it today. They probably should flee like his soldiers.

P
P
September 11, 2022 10:08 am
H B Bear
H B Bear
September 11, 2022 10:08 am

I don’t like Albo but he has just said some nice things about the Queen and the Monarchy.

The Left has never had a problem with hypocrisy. I’m guessing those 18yo Trot Albo vids will take a while to surface being pre mobile phone days.

Mater
September 11, 2022 10:10 am

Monty should volunteer to go help Ukraine fight Russia.

As low as standards have now dropped, not even our peacetime ADF would want him.

Besides, I dare say a Ukrainian soldier has more than a 10% chance of dying in the front line.

m0nty
#3518263, posted on July 19, 2020 at 3:25 pm
That is not a serious assumption in the slightest. Take me for instance, I have 30-40 years left in me but if I get the virus I am roughly a 10% chance to die. There are plenty in my position.

Putting his money where his mouth is, is just not Monty’s cup of tea.

lotocoti
lotocoti
September 11, 2022 10:10 am

The stuff of faith based aviation nightmares.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 11, 2022 10:10 am

Even Waffleworth managed to appear generous. Something he manages quite well.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 11, 2022 10:11 am

cohenitesays:

September 11, 2022 at 9:52 am

I’m fine. All good except for terrible shoulder pain which the nurse reckons is caused by the op. The pain killer works though. Wow.

Shoulder?! What has your shoulder got to do with your transitioning surgery. Fess up head prefect, what is really going on?

I’m guessing bicep implants.

custard
custard
September 11, 2022 10:11 am

If Presidential EO 13848 was specifically constructed to thwart the current occupant of the WH, why did he just extend it?

And EO 13818

This executive order could easily take down the entire corrupt political establishment
if and when it is properly used,

Also just extended.

Who really is in control?

https://patelpatriot.substack.com/p/devolution-addendum-series-part-5

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 11, 2022 10:13 am

mUnty should be an expert in Swedish counter resistance but he squibbed it. #neverbeentomalmo

Johnny Rotten
September 11, 2022 10:14 am

OldOzziesays:
September 11, 2022 at 9:19 am
Johnny Rottensays:
September 11, 2022 at 9:07 am
Long Live the Queen and Freddie Mercury……………………….

The Queen with Paddington Bear and “We Will Rock You” by Queen with Adam Lambert

Thanks Old Ozzie you are a Gem. And i still love marmalade sandwiches and Paddington Bear and the QUEEN…………………….

rickw
rickw
September 11, 2022 10:14 am

The Queen’s death ‘unearths deep wounds from colonisation’

Australia’s deep wound of colonialism is that most Aboriginals were ardent advocates of it. Peace and food, what’s not to like?!

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 11, 2022 10:17 am

Thanks for that pic*, JC. Unfortunately, my copy had gone to God in an old laptop and I now have a new copy in my files. Much

Anyone with an appreciation of the beauty of golf is appalled by that photo on a number of levels (see above on private golf courses).

P
P
September 11, 2022 10:18 am

Albanese announces public holiday to mark Queen’s death
The Prime Minister has announced a public holiday on Thursday 22nd of September to allow Australians to pay their respects to Queen Elizabeth II.
ABC

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 11, 2022 10:18 am

Australia’s deep wound of colonialism is that most Aboriginals were ardent advocates of it. Peace and food, what’s not to like?!

White man’s beef, tea, flour and tobacco beat the lifestyle of a Stone Age hunter gatherer.

flyingduk
flyingduk
September 11, 2022 10:21 am

I’ve watched all episodes, Duk. Great, great series.

Horses, lever guns, scenery, big cars, horses, real women (one crazy), horses..

whats not to like?

Frank
Frank
September 11, 2022 10:22 am

If it upsets upper class twits who see it as a sign of their privilege dissolving in a new age where they don’t get respect just for being who they are… then some good will come if it.

But enough of the qwerty people demanding respect because of what they get up to with the contents of their underwear. Or the BIPOCs, or the the trannies.

Johnny Rotten
September 11, 2022 10:23 am

I clicked on the MonyPox web shite and I got this……………

https://loadeddogma.blogspot.com/

Is that him? What a fat fucker and all those donuts………………………lol

Cassie of Sydney
September 11, 2022 10:25 am

“Putting his money where his mouth is, is just not Monty’s cup of tea.”

No…I’m still waiting for his weekly postings from Malmo.

Mater
September 11, 2022 10:25 am

mUnty should be an expert in Swedish counter resistance but he squibbed it. #neverbeentomalmo

And he had the gall to blame his refusal on a family within the Bosi family.

m0nty
#3749031, posted on February 6, 2021 at 10:53 pm
Zulu, I was always keen to do it, Riccardo needed some time to set everything up, then his wife got sick and his priorities changed, as was only right. That is how it happened.

A blatant lie.

m0nty
#2306036, posted on February 23, 2017 at 6:45 pm
JFC, apparently it’s a minimum 30 hour trip to Malmo with two stops, trending up to 40+.
$4000 isn’t going to cut it Riccardo. I don’t work for free. I wouldn’t be able to do it until October in any case due to my own work commitments.

m0nty
#2306102, posted on February 23, 2017 at 7:39 pm
Zulu, I said he can pay for my holiday (which includes spending money). If he wants me to work, he will have to pay extra.

m0nty
#2306106, posted on February 23, 2017 at 7:40 pm

22 hours and cheap cheap

Copenhagen is not Malmo.

m0nty
#2306211, posted on February 23, 2017 at 9:09 pm

C’mon m0nty, where is your sense of commitment and adventure.

I have two kids under 3. I have enough commitment and adventure in my life.

m0nty
#2306304, posted on February 23, 2017 at 9:59 pm
If we are talking a holiday, $4000 is somewhat reasonable. If Riccardo wants me to work for him, then he has to pay up.
The fact that I couldn’t do it until October might cool everyone’s jets though.

m0nty
#2306320, posted on February 23, 2017 at 10:11 pm

Someone else paying for your holiday is being paid for a tiny amount of “work”, monster.

Did you see Ricky’s conditions, Dot? Not much time for holidaying, it would be constant video recording and editing. Plus he’s not giving me much time to get over jet lag, I know from previous experience that adjusting to a time zone 10 hours different to yours is very difficult in a short time.
If I am going to be away from my family for that long giving him material for a documentary or whatever, I’m a journalist, I would produce a professional product, but I don’t do that stuff for free.

m0nty
#2306324, posted on February 23, 2017 at 10:17 pm
The other aspect is that video uploading of clips of the length Ricky wants takes a long time even on good connections, so I’d have to pay an absolute motzer for big data allowances on temporary broadband from somewhere.

Mater
September 11, 2022 10:27 am

Family issue

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 11, 2022 10:27 am

The Prime Minister has announced a public holiday on Thursday 22nd of September to allow Australians to pay their respects to Queen Elizabeth II.

The Queen’s funeral is on Tuesday 19th.
So why the Thursday holiday two days later?
Oh.
The Victorian Grand Final holiday is on the Friday.
Nice four day weekend for the wukkas.

Cassie of Sydney
September 11, 2022 10:27 am

“They probably should flee like his soldiers.”

Hmm…whilst we’re on the topic of moral cowardice, we’re still waiting on Monty’s apology for calling Cardinal Pell a “rock spider”.

But such apologies need to come from a man…and that he isn’t.

flyingduk
flyingduk
September 11, 2022 10:28 am

“I gave up private health insurance a while ago. “

I’m very grateful for my private health insurance. I consider it money well worth spent.

As an insider, for a long time I would have agreed that private cover didnt really add a lot, unless you were ‘in the industry’ and had the ability to judge the qualities of the various specialists and self refer.

Now, having seen the terminal decline of the public system (which is a symptom of the terminal decline of the public themselves), I regard private cover as essential, whatever the cost. If you dont have it, enjoy your ‘all nighters’ at the local ER, surrounded by meth heads, morons and the morbidly obese – btw they WILL be sicker than you and you WILL have to wait for them.

PS …. the old Darwin adage ‘get a pain – get a plane’ is now true everywhere – if you need to get to hospital fast, take a taxi, do not wait for an ambulance that may take 40 minutes to come* and will then ramp you for 1 hours. As a walk up, at least you will be inside the doors when you collapse.

* I noticed this particularly in my last few years as a volunteer fireman (yes – man) in the Adelaide Hills – we went to quite a few serious crashes where no ambulance was seen for a half hour or more, and we were increasingly getting called to ‘first respond’ to collapses and cardiac cases due to no ambulance available.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 11, 2022 10:28 am

Who offered to buy m0nster’s ticket to Sweden?

m0nty
September 11, 2022 10:29 am

And he had the gall to blame his refusal on a family within the Bosi family.

Now post the one where Ricky withdraws his offer because his wife got sick.

None of the stuff you posted were refusals. It’s called negotiation, that’s what happens with contract work.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 11, 2022 10:31 am

The back channels tell me St Ruth is claiming (yet again) that he is banned from here.

cohenite
September 11, 2022 10:31 am

I’m guessing bicep implants.

Or a penis extension. Head prefect is just that sort of guy who’ll undergo whatever is necessary to present himself in the best possible way.

Johnny Rotten
September 11, 2022 10:33 am

m0ntysays:
September 11, 2022 at 9:33 am
I am amused at the thought that JC is now literally a windbag.

How dare you call JC a wind bag and I am not religious………………………….You crunt.

lotocoti
lotocoti
September 11, 2022 10:33 am

They probably should flee like his soldiers.

The Russian speaking civilian population too,
given the good guys’ predilection to massacre.

m0nty
September 11, 2022 10:33 am

Hmm…whilst we’re on the topic of moral cowardice, we’re still waiting on Monty’s apology for calling Cardinal Pell a “rock spider”.

At the time I said it, he was indeed a convicted and gaoled rock spider according to the law. But then his appeal won (on a technicality), and now he is not. Not hard to understand, Cassie.

P
P
September 11, 2022 10:33 am

The Queen’s funeral is on Tuesday 19th.
So why the Thursday holiday two days later?

The Prime Minister and Governor-General will travel to London for the Queen’s funeral, with the memorial to be held upon their return.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-11/national-day-of-mourning-queen-death-to-be-public-holiday/101427050

JC
JC
September 11, 2022 10:33 am

Anyone with an appreciation of the beauty of golf is appalled by that photo on a number of levels (see above on private golf courses).

Bear, just being hypothetical. Say one saw him on a golf course at the time the pic was taken and were so overcome with anger at the way he was attired and playing, you ran him over with a golf cart and killed him. Or you clubbed him to death out of sheer anger. As I lawyer, do you think you could reduce the sentence?

areff
areff
September 11, 2022 10:34 am

Who offered to buy m0nster’s ticket to Sweden?

Cheaper, simpler and easier to brick him up in an unused fireplace.

P
P
September 11, 2022 10:37 am

Now, having seen the terminal decline of the public system (which is a symptom of the terminal decline of the public themselves), I regard private cover as essential, whatever the cost.

Exactly.

Johnny Rotten
September 11, 2022 10:38 am

Look. The Russians under Putin have farked it up. Just like WW One. All done by Christmas What idiots we we have as so called World Leaders.

Tom
Tom
September 11, 2022 10:40 am

Putin’s poodles in the media and on socials are not having a good time of it today. They probably should flee like his soldiers.

Monty, I would be as happy as you if the corrupt, anti-democratic thug in Kiev managed to defeat the army of the corrupt old thug in Moscow, who’s trying to expand the Russian empire again.

But, as you know, there are two wars currently in progress – a battlefield hot war and a propaganda cold war.

If one of your Twitter parrots has tweeted that Putin is beating Zelenskyy, there’s a lag period of one to four weeks to elapse before claims on the battlefield are corroborated by political events in Moscow and Kiev.

If you are claiming that Putin has beaten Putin on the battlefield, it sounds to me you are setting yourself up make a fool of yourself, of which you have long track record here.

Mater
September 11, 2022 10:40 am

Now post the one where Ricky withdraws his offer because his wife got sick.

I can’t, because it isn’t wasn’t to be found. I wonder why?

BTW, that’s not negotiating, that’s back peddling.

rosie
rosie
September 11, 2022 10:41 am

Not having private health insurance is fine if your medical issue is life threatening but a different kettle of fish if you a trade apprentice being told you have to wait twelve months for a knee reconstruction.
Then private health insurance is a ten days golden ticket.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 11, 2022 10:41 am

The back channels tell me St Ruth is claiming (yet again) that he is banned from here.

The would be the ‘back channel’ consisting of four people, and of whom one is Bird.

Tom
Tom
September 11, 2022 10:45 am

… Putin has beaten Zelenskyy on the battlefield…

JC
JC
September 11, 2022 10:46 am

Johnny

Putin
I dunno, maybe I’m just a gullible softy, but anyone who writes a such a nice letter to Charles about his mother can’t be all bad.

P
P
September 11, 2022 10:48 am

U.K Energy Reaches Crisis Point, Britain Announces New Oil and Gas Leases and Lifts Moratorium on Fracking
September 10, 2022 | Sundance

From the comments:

Green energy…
dies this Winter.

Hopefully the World will give this Green Energy BS a proper burial and say Never Again to Soros and the WEF.

m0nty
September 11, 2022 10:52 am

I can’t, because it isn’t wasn’t to be found. I wonder why?

Look harder, it’s there.

BTW, that’s not negotiating, that’s back peddling.

I was making some quite reasonable requests before I accepted the job offer. Not my fault that Ricky can’t organise anything more complicated than a PA on the back of a truck. He didn’t even register his political party, LOL.

bespoke
bespoke
September 11, 2022 10:53 am

I thought Bird was banned at the store by the ‘free speech’ champion.

m0nty
September 11, 2022 10:54 am

If one of your Twitter parrots has tweeted that Putin is beating Zelenskyy, there’s a lag period of one to four weeks to elapse before claims on the battlefield are corroborated by political events in Moscow and Kiev.

The Russian Defence Ministry has confirmed it is puling troops out of areas in which Ukraine is conducting its counter-offensive. Can’t get more definitive than that.

No one is declaring total victory yet, but signs are certainly poor for Putin’s tankies.

Johnny Rotten
September 11, 2022 10:56 am

JCsays:
September 11, 2022 at 10:46 am
Johnny

Putin
I dunno, maybe I’m just a gullible softy, but anyone who writes a such a nice letter to Charles about his mother can’t be all bad.

JC I don’t know whether I am the Jonny that you refer too but I agree with you 100%. Long live King Charles the Turd as the Irish would say it after a Guinness or more………………..

Franx
Franx
September 11, 2022 10:58 am

Indolent and Old Ozzie
Worthwhile reminder of that frightening Riefenstahl practice in relation to which sections of the public become a ‘submissive void’. The very antithesis of the Passible.

Johnny Rotten
September 11, 2022 10:59 am

The Australian Guv.ment has been very respectful. I am impressed.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 11, 2022 11:05 am

The Russian Defence Ministry has confirmed it is puling troops out of areas in which Ukraine is conducting its counter-offensive.

Yes. Because the ‘Russian Defence Ministry’, in line with its values of openness and transparency, broadcasts its troop movements in the middle of a battle for the edification of lazy hypochondriac indoor rangas on the other side of the world.

JC
JC
September 11, 2022 11:08 am

The Australian Guv.ment has been very respectful. I am impressed.

Yes, I was referring to you.

I’m sure the Albanian told his backbench to STFU or they would have their throats slit. But yes, they’re being superficially respectful.

Superficially respectful is actually worse than saying how you really feel though. 🙂

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
September 11, 2022 11:09 am

Meme;

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JC
JC
September 11, 2022 11:09 am

bespoke says:
September 11, 2022 at 10:53 am

I thought Bird was banned at the store by the ‘free speech’ champion.

Good catch. The idiot has more intellectual leaks than an incontinent on the booze.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 11, 2022 11:17 am

duk – private health insurance is certainly good for getting to the front of the queue. Not sure how it stacks up on value against a lifetime of (genuine) self insuring allowing for a couple of knees and a hip. Both my hospitalisations have fallen into the catastrophic category so far. The degenerative stuff is yet to come.

Mater
September 11, 2022 11:19 am

Look harder, it’s there.

Let’s just assume for a minute that it does exist (and I don’t believe it does), does this look like anything except a ‘no jump’ at the door?

m0nty
#2306211, posted on February 23, 2017 at 9:09 pm

C’mon m0nty, where is your sense of commitment and adventure.

I have two kids under 3. I have enough commitment and adventure in my life.

Your refusal had nothing to do with Riccardo, his wife or his kids. What you did was what loud mouthed cowards allows do when called out. You reneged, and made excuses.

bespoke
bespoke
September 11, 2022 11:22 am

Who knows Riccardo’s offer was genuine?

Mater
September 11, 2022 11:23 am

Who knows Riccardo’s offer was genuine?

It was, but does it matter?

Oh come on
Oh come on
September 11, 2022 11:24 am

But of course:

The Queen leaves a complicated legacy for Indigenous Australians

As the world reflects on the legacy of the longest-reigning monarch in British history, Wiradjuri person Sandy O’Sullivan said some Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people felt the Queen had a responsibility to enact change to better the lives of First Australians.

Wiradjuri person? What’s that all about?

Professor O’Sullivan said a lot of First Nations people were frustrated the Queen did not do more.

“We’ve experienced over decades that work not being done,” they said.

“She had a voice that we didn’t have and that voice would have gone a long way to effecting change.

“Hopefully that’s what we see now.”

Oh, right. You’ve got to hand it to the good professor. It’s clear they’ve got at least three good grifts going simultaneously and is pitching a fourth.

rickw
rickw
September 11, 2022 11:25 am

Who knows Riccardo’s offer was genuine?

Regardless, I think it would have easily been crowd funded, if he wasn’t intent on bullshitting his way out of going.

bespoke
bespoke
September 11, 2022 11:26 am

Yes it does.
Glib online challenges happen all the time.

JC
JC
September 11, 2022 11:27 am

duk – private health insurance is certainly good for getting to the front of the queue.

I got rid of the incidentals part of health insurance several years ago as it’s just not worth it and pay my own freight for dental. I just have hospital coverage. The other crap like physio – I don’t care.

Roger
Roger
September 11, 2022 11:28 am

The Australian Guv.ment has been very respectful. I am impressed.

They are well practised in lying.

JC
JC
September 11, 2022 11:32 am

They are well practised in lying.

Lol Yes!

Mater
September 11, 2022 11:32 am

Yes it does.
Glib online challenges happen all the time.

People like Riccardo, and those of a similar background, don’t make glib online challenges. He would have paid up as offered.

Besides, if Monty thought it was glib, he could have called Riccardo out. Instead, he broke out in a cold sweat, started pissing his pants and vomiting lame excuses.

rickw
rickw
September 11, 2022 11:32 am

Glib online challenges happen all the time.

This was long running and a number put their hands up to fill any funding gap.

Unfortunately it seems the fat lying bullshit artist Ranga did some real research and decided that he didn’t want to die in Malmo.

Mater
September 11, 2022 11:35 am

Just as a reminder:

Riccardo Bosi
#2305631, posted on February 23, 2017 at 1:06 pm

m0nty #2304372, posted on February 22, 2017 at 10:24 am

M0nty, are you implying that whilst the Watson offer is less than he originally stated, the actual crimes against Swedes are real?

No. If he wants to pay for my holiday though, or if USSR also has the courage of his convictions, I would love a free trip to Malmo thanks.

Your offer is accepted.
I will fund your trip, the purpose of which is to discover the ‘Truth About Living in Malmo’
I will provide $4,000 to cover:
• Return airfare to Malmo Sweden,
• five days food and accommodation, and
• local travel.
Please note the following constraints and deliverables:
• You are required to reside in Malmo for the duration of your trip.
• You are to conduct a minimum of 15 video interviews with the residents of the suburb of
Rosengard, Malmo.
• The video interviews are to be:
* a minimum of five minutes duration each,
* conducted over three consecutive days, and
* uploaded to the Catallaxy Files.
• Each day’s interviews only, are to be uploaded at the end of the day, ie no carry overs
• No more than five video interviews are to be uploaded per day
Please note the following conditions:
• At no time are you considered an employee.
• All rights to material you produce remain my property.
• All medical costs including treatment, transport and hospitalisation remains your responsibility.
• In the event of death, repatriation of your body or parts thereof remains your responsibility.
• If you fail to meet your obligations as described:
* you will be required to reimburse the $4,000 in full,
* regardless of the reason for the failure to deliver,
* including serious injury and/or death.
• In the case of death your estate will be required to reimburse the $4, 000 in full.
If you accept the offer, the T&Cs can be tightened up, but I think you can see where I’m going with this.
I look forward to your call.

bespoke
bespoke
September 11, 2022 11:38 am

People like Riccardo, and those of a similar background, don’t make glib online challenges. He would have paid up as offered.

Your assuming allot based on minimal contact and comradeship, Mater.

miltonf
miltonf
September 11, 2022 11:39 am

Was the fat creep right about the UAP deregistering itself? Just wondering- haven’t seen anything else about it.

Mater
September 11, 2022 11:43 am

Your assuming allot based on minimal contact and comradeship, Mater.

You have no idea of my history with Riccardo.
Anyone with a modicum of deductive reasoning might assume that it could be significant.

miltonf
miltonf
September 11, 2022 11:45 am

a West that celebrates the obscene, the pagan, the promiscuous, the opposite of truth, the vulgar, the indecent, the tawdry, the obnoxious, the dissolute, the lewd and the self-indulgent.

which has been largely driven by the meja- just look at the way US TV changed in 60 years- it actually used to be quite nice and fun- Petticoat Junction, the Beverly Hillbillies, F troop, Lassie. For decades, to use Cassie’s words, it’s been indecent, tawdry, obnoxious, dissolute, lewd and self-indulgent.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 11, 2022 11:45 am

I have always thought the hospital system would work better with an element of user pays and a stronger role for the price mechanism. Need to stop short of a full US model of have and have nots.

miltonf
miltonf
September 11, 2022 11:46 am

The meja is evil- even more so than I thought possible just 5 years ago.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 11, 2022 11:48 am

Was the fat creep right about the UAP deregistering itself? Just wondering- haven’t seen anything else about it.

Wikipedia showed the UAP as being de registered a few days ago.

miltonf
miltonf
September 11, 2022 11:53 am

The nastiness of the left is very accurately captured in The History Man by Malcolm Bradbury with the destruction of Carmody. The other sociology students couldn’t believe Carmody was sincere when he wore a uni blazer and tie- with them everything was parody.

flyingduk
flyingduk
September 11, 2022 11:53 am

duk – private health insurance is certainly good for getting to the front of the queue. Not sure how it stacks up on value against a lifetime of (genuine) self insuring allowing for a couple of knees and a hip. Both my hospitalisations have fallen into the catastrophic category so far. The degenerative stuff is yet to come.

*provided* you can pay the cost of whatever is needed, ‘self insuring’ is always a cheaper option because you are just paying for the cost of the procedure, not the cost + their profit + their admin fee.

The problem however is that (in this country*) many providers wont accept ‘self insured’ – probably because they have been burned in the past.

* In contrast to, say Dubai, where we would deliver out own patients to either the American (1st choice), Canadian (2nd) or European hospital, and pass $15k USD across the counter to get the ball rolling.

Arky
September 11, 2022 11:53 am
miltonf
miltonf
September 11, 2022 11:55 am

Thanks ZK2A- that was an exercise in the absurd. Still the guy I voted for got up- I wonder if he’s an independent now.

shatterzzz
September 11, 2022 11:55 am

private health insurance is certainly good for getting to the front of the queue.

Isn’t that the main reason for paying it!

flyingduk
flyingduk
September 11, 2022 11:57 am

Not having private health insurance is fine if your medical issue is life threatening but a different kettle of fish if you a trade apprentice being told you have to wait twelve months for a knee reconstruction.

Again, until recently, I would have agreed that public hospitals are fine/better for acute life threats (trauma/MI) but increasingly they are not – more and more people are getting delayed at (or even outside – ramping) the ED when they need to be receiving definitive care. Many people have died in ramped ambulances.

I have not heard of anyone getting ramped at a private hospital, and many big city private EDs are good at managing Heart attacks and strokes.

bespoke
bespoke
September 11, 2022 11:58 am

You have no idea of my history with Riccardo.

Absolutely so my assumptions are based only what I’ve read. This not uncommon.

I’m not the enemy and I am familiar with consept of brother hood.

m0nty
September 11, 2022 11:59 am

Ricky’s entire political history has been glib online challenges, interspersed with glib public speeches. He has accomplished exactly nothing, got no one elected, had no effect.

He thought he’d score a few debating points by making a bulltish offer of underfunding some contract work with terrible conditions. I expressed keenness to do it and pointed out how rubbish his initial offer was, and we started working out the details in a slightly more professional manner. Then he withdrew because his wife got sick.

Of course you lot view that process as being “oh you just squibbed it” when it was Ricky who withdrew, not me.

shatterzzz
September 11, 2022 12:00 pm

Albanese announces public holiday to mark Queen’s death
The Prime Minister has announced a public holiday on Thursday 22nd of September to allow Australians to pay their respects to Queen Elizabeth II.

We is all equal! .. LOL! .. pollies get, at least, 2 weeks .. wukkas get 1 day and the 251s will find CentreLink closed .. if only we had a .. VOICE! .. LOL!

flyingduk
flyingduk
September 11, 2022 12:00 pm

I got rid of the incidentals part of health insurance several years ago as it’s just not worth it and pay my own freight for dental. I just have hospital coverage. The other crap like physio – I don’t care.

Of course, ‘insuring’ against relatively small, relatively predictable health costs like GP visits or physio makes about as much sense as insuring against your car needing fuel or servicing – you pay the cost of the service + their profit + their admin costs.

I only insure against catastrophes /.

Mater
September 11, 2022 12:04 pm

Of course you lot view that process as being “oh you just squibbed it” when it was Ricky who withdrew, not me.

That’s not what the replay shows.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 11, 2022 12:07 pm

m0ntysays:
September 11, 2022 at 10:07 am
Putin’s poodles in the media and on socials are not having a good time of it today. They probably should flee like his soldiers.

From an “impeccable” source, “Chatter on lefty blogs”.

Roger
Roger
September 11, 2022 12:08 pm

Still the guy I voted for got up- I wonder if he’s an independent now.

He insists the UAP is still functioning and the deregistration is a purely administrative matter designed to reduce costs between elections. Very strange all-round.

Mater
September 11, 2022 12:10 pm

Besides, Monty, I remember the discussions well.
There were people lining up to contribute money to pay for your passage to paradise (Malmo). Riccardo’s offer was just the initiating one.

The only thing that stopped you going was you.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 11, 2022 12:12 pm

The only time I’ll intervene in such an instance is if it becomes a near everyday jeremiad.

Not quite the best simile, Dover, since Jeremiah may’ve been incessant but was also correct.
Perhaps Krugmaniad or Goreiad would be better. 😀

miltonf
miltonf
September 11, 2022 12:13 pm

He insists the UAP is still functioning and the deregistration is a purely administrative matter designed to reduce costs between elections. Very strange all-round.

yes it sure is

cohenite
September 11, 2022 12:17 pm

At the time I said it, he was indeed a convicted and gaoled rock spider according to the law. But then his appeal won (on a technicality), and now he is not.

The technicality was, there was no evidence, something the Victorian SC had concocted a ridiculous legal fiction to avoid acknowledging.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 11, 2022 12:18 pm

m0ntysays:
September 11, 2022 at 10:33 am
Hmm…whilst we’re on the topic of moral cowardice, we’re still waiting on Monty’s apology for calling Cardinal Pell a “rock spider”.

At the time I said it, he was indeed a convicted and gaoled rock spider according to the law. But then his appeal won (on a technicality), and now he is not. Not hard to understand, Cassie.

The “technicality” being that it was physically impossible for the events to have occurred. Minor detail?

And still no apology for making the assertion, and never actually withdrawing it? Gutless worm (sorry to worms for the association).

JC
JC
September 11, 2022 12:23 pm

It’s an OT,

Naa, ya think?

and we’ve all been repetitious.

There’s repetition and monotonously boring repetition. Where do you think his is on a scale of one to ten? 38?

The only time I’ll intervene in such an instance is if it becomes a near everyday jeremiad.

That’s a nice cop-out on a technicality. 🙂 It’s “jeremiadathon” most of the freaking day. I think he’s “jeremiading” even in-between shifts at Bakers Delight.

m0nty
September 11, 2022 12:23 pm

That’s not what the replay shows.

Your selective editing is noted.

rickw
rickw
September 11, 2022 12:25 pm

FBI count is now 50 Trump allies:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ93Vv2BthU

m0nty
September 11, 2022 12:25 pm

How George Pell won in the High Court on a legal technicality

This High Court appeal did not ask whether Pell committed the offences. It asked whether the two majority judges in the Victorian Court of Appeal, in dismissing Pell’s earlier appeal, made an error about the nature of the correct legal principles, or their application.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 11, 2022 12:26 pm

JCsays:
September 11, 2022 at 11:27 am
duk – private health insurance is certainly good for getting to the front of the queue.

I got rid of the incidentals part of health insurance several years ago as it’s just not worth it and pay my own freight for dental. I just have hospital coverage. The other crap like physio – I don’t care.

Same – happy to pay extra for my Female GP’s and my Female Plastic Surgeon who recommended me to Radiation Specialist and ENT Specialist at RNSH – I am a testament to a Great Public Health System – at St Vincents and RNSH, but happy to have private as backup if required – Dentists – haven’t seen one in 30 years – we don’t get on

Mater
September 11, 2022 12:27 pm

Your selective editing is noted.

Riccardo’s offer was made on at “February 23, 2017 at 1:06 pm”

This is a quote of yours from 8 hours later:

m0nty
#2306211, posted on February 23, 2017 at 9:09 pm

C’mon m0nty, where is your sense of commitment and adventure.

I have two kids under 3. I have enough commitment and adventure in my life.

Did Riccardo have a family crisis in that 8 hours?

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 11, 2022 12:28 pm

m0ntysays:
September 11, 2022 at 10:52 am
I can’t, because it isn’t wasn’t to be found. I wonder why?

Look harder, it’s there.

Then an IT eggspurt like you can find it, and link to it.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 11, 2022 12:31 pm

Knuckle Draggersays:

September 11, 2022 at 10:41 am

The back channels tell me St Ruth is claiming (yet again) that he is banned from here.

The would be the ‘back channel’ consisting of four people, and of whom one is Bird.

Well, yes.
But second hand from someone who has a stronger stomach than me and actually reads the Furniture Store.

m0nty
September 11, 2022 12:32 pm

I have two kids under 3. I have enough commitment and adventure in my life.

That comment was made in response to Ricky’s offer, which was basically to cover expenses and not pay me for doing actual professional work for him. I was not going to do it for the pure adventure. I’m not a grifter living on donations and a military pension like Ricky. I have mouths to feed, if he thought he didn’t need to pay me for real-life work then he had to change his tune.

min
min
September 11, 2022 12:32 pm

How stupid is Elbow?! I see he is already talking about referendum on at republic .
I posted two weeks ago approximately, the story of my new relationship with a grieving widower and now writing a book about all of our the problems associated with it . So I am researching all I can on the subject .
It has been for Melburnians particularly, a year of losses loss of freedom, loss of businesses , loss of school and socialising, loss of work and probably loss of relationships and now a threat of loss of homes. ,
Loss and Grief have been suffered by many and Ithink the Queen’s death is going to have a greater impact on grievers . More Than we can ever imagine. especially those who lost family and friends during lockdown . Elbow has Buckleys .

.

pete m
pete m
September 11, 2022 12:32 pm

m0nty, that “legal technicality” (lol) is a bedrock principle of a fair trial.

The fact is the High Court said no jury could reasonably convict – that goes back to the trial itself, and meant the appeal court should have over-turned the verdict.

That is not a legal technicality.

That is justice finding that a grevious injustice had occurred.

7-0

No jury should have convicted him.

Innocent at law and that is all that matters here on Earth – what he cops (if anything) on judgment day is a matter for our betters.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 11, 2022 12:34 pm

m0ntysays:
September 11, 2022 at 12:23 pm
That’s not what the replay shows.

Your selective editing is noted.

hahahaha, Monty thought because the Sinc cat was gone he was free to rewrite his Blancmange like u-turn on the malmo slitherdown.

Own it fat boy, when offered a way to prove the evil wingnuts wrong you instead retreated further than Xenophon and the March of the 10,000…

Ahahahaha…
Matersays:
September 11, 2022 at 12:27 pm

Theres MORE!

Go on monty-Who, travel through time and space and change history some more.

Mater
September 11, 2022 12:35 pm

That comment was made in response to Ricky’s offer, which was basically to cover expenses and not pay me for doing actual professional work for him. I was not going to do it for the pure adventure.

It’s amazing that someone as sickly and fat as you can twist, turn, backflip and slither so effectively.

I’m genuinely impressed.
Tell us again how Covid is the biggest killer in Australia at the moment.

DaFisk
DaFisk
September 11, 2022 12:35 pm

Total collapse of RUS forces in Kharkiv oblast. All territorial gains over 4 months, since “Phase II” withdrawal from Kiev and redeployment, wiped out and then some in 4 days. Russians in total panic and disarray.

Putin: “I remain a master strategist.”

JC
JC
September 11, 2022 12:35 pm

pete m

Blast from the past. Nice to see you around.

m0nty
September 11, 2022 12:37 pm

No jury should have convicted him.

Why even have juries, obviously judges are the final word on these matters. Better to have begowned beaks in powdered wigs decide everything on our behalf, not leave it to the riff raff and unwashed masses.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 11, 2022 12:38 pm

m0ntysays:
September 11, 2022 at 12:25 pm
How George Pell won in the High Court on a legal technicality

This High Court appeal

ROFLMAO. To “prove” his point about a legal technicality, m0nty-fa links to The (one-sided) Conversation, part of the “Get Pell” gang that pursued an innocent man for years, and got him jailed on a legal fiction for 14 months. And has never admitted to error.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 11, 2022 12:38 pm

Matersays:

September 11, 2022 at 11:43 am

Your assuming allot based on minimal contact and comradeship, Mater.

You have no idea of my history with Riccardo.
Anyone with a modicum of deductive reasoning might assume that it could be significant.

Serious question Mater.
Did he show signs earlier of the potential to go off reservation?
Or is this just a sudden, recent thing?

Franx
Franx
September 11, 2022 12:39 pm

The exoneration occurred on the basis of what the HCA noted several times as the incontrovertible exculpatory evidence of ‘honest witnesses’ vis a vis the original allegations which the HCA noted as having been fabrications. Now it so happened that the exculpatory evidence was sufficient to indicate that there was every possibility that an innocent person had been convicted. As for the fabrications, they were and are left to speak for themselves.

JC
JC
September 11, 2022 12:39 pm

Dover

Forget Pell. You have much, much deeper problems. You have a Baker’s Delight deliver driver ruining your blog and doing so in-between shifts.

Focus on the most important priority. 🙂

Roger
Roger
September 11, 2022 12:40 pm

How George Pell won in the High Court on a legal technicality

Hard to believe one of the authors of that tendentious piece is a professor of law. I think his particular interest in child abuse has clouded his thinking on the matter under discussion.

JC
JC
September 11, 2022 12:42 pm

I have always thought the hospital system would work better with an element of user pays and a stronger role for the price mechanism. Need to stop short of a full US model of have and have nots.

Bear, don’t live under the misapprehension that the US model is based on some user pays capitalist model. It’s not as it’s a complete shitshow of complexity of state and federal government mandates and only recently was there liberalization across state lines. It’s basically a late birth abortion gone wrong.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 11, 2022 12:43 pm

m0ntysays:
September 11, 2022 at 12:37 pm
No jury should have convicted him.

Why even have juries, obviously judges are the final word on these matters. Better to have begowned beaks in powdered wigs decide everything on our behalf, not leave it to the riff raff and unwashed masses.

Meeeeoooowww, saucer of milk for the Phat Cat?

When Appeal Court judges decided to reject Pell’s appeal, they were (well, two of them were) providing justice. When a higher court said thy were wrong it became “begowned beaks in powdered wigs”.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 11, 2022 12:44 pm

A few things to know before stealing my 914

Dear Thief,

Welcome to my Porsche 914. I imagine that at this point (having found the door unlocked) your intention is to steal my car. Don’t be encouraged by this; the tumblers sheared off in 1978. I would have locked it up if I could, so don’t think you’re too clever or that I’m too lazy. However, now that you’re in the car, there are a few things you’re going to need to know. First, the battery is disconnected, so slide-hammering my ignition switch is not your first step. I leave the battery disconnected, not to foil hoodlums such as yourself, but because there is a mysterious current drain from the 40-year-old German wiring harness that I can’t locate and/or fix. So, connect the battery first. Good luck finding the engine cover release. Or the engine, for that matter.

Now, you can skip your slide hammer. The ignition switch’s tumblers are so worn that any flat-bladed screwdriver or pair of scissors will do. Don’t tell anyone.

Once you’ve figured that out and try to start the car, you’ll run into some trouble.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 11, 2022 12:44 pm

A lot of purple Freflogs floating around the city waiting on flights back to Sandland.
Engaged one bloke in conversation and played him along until I let it out that I was a Pies man.
Good times.

shatterzzz
September 11, 2022 12:44 pm

Gotta luv the way “our” ABC ignores the crux of the matter by failing to mention “Trevor” is a renter so has no say in “improvements” to the abode .. LOL!
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-11/solar-push-for-public-housing-residents/101410560

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
September 11, 2022 12:45 pm

m0ntysays:
September 11, 2022 at 12:25 pm
How George Pell won in the High Court on a legal technicality

Poor old m0nty. Once again he posts something without having read it, only to find that despite the dishonest headline it actually totally contradicts his assertion.
From m0nty’s link:

Jury decisions cannot be undermined without exceptional circumstances. Pell had to show more than the jury “might have” had a reasonable doubt. He had to show the evidence “precluded” a guilty verdict.

Correct. The evidence was found to “preclude” a guilty verdict.

Poor old m0nty. He’s a self-beclownment MACHINE!

cohenite
September 11, 2022 12:51 pm

How George Pell won in the High Court on a legal technicality

This High Court appeal did not ask whether Pell committed the offences. It asked whether the two majority judges in the Victorian Court of Appeal, in dismissing Pell’s earlier appeal, made an error about the nature of the correct legal principles, or their application.

Dickless resorts to The Conversation. In dickless’s mind Pell is still guilty. That’s the point. The left is never wrong. The HC concluded this:

“a significant possibility that an innocent person has been convicted because the evidence did not establish guilt to the requisite standard of proof”

The standard of criminal proof not being met is not a technicality.

Mater
September 11, 2022 12:52 pm

Serious question Mater.
Did he show signs earlier of the potential to go off reservation?
Or is this just a sudden, recent thing?

With all due respect Sancho, it’s not really a serious question. If you are wanting me to slag off Riccardo, I won’t, but I will give you a serious answer.

After recent events, the reservation got a whole lot smaller. Not hard to go off it. Most who don’t blindly bungle along compliantly, are generally considered “off reservation”.

A number of my acquaintances would tell you that the last 28 months have sent me “off reservation”, too. They are the types who think I should have been held down and forcibly injected.

Sticking to some fundamental principles is unusual nowadays, and is not particularly popular with those who have trivialised them to point of being bloody scary.

I wouldn’t have gone the same track as Riccardo, but we all dealt with it, and resisted it, in our own way.

Was there early signs of him doing something that wouldn’t be popular? Sure. He’s a man of belief and commitment, and not one to sit idly by. His appearances on the ABC well before Covid were clear clues.

m0nty
September 11, 2022 12:54 pm

In their full reasons, the High Court concluded an independent assessment of the evidence by the Court of Appeal should have concluded there ought to have been sufficient doubt in the jury’s minds to preclude the verdict from being open.

Why even run the case in the first place. Witness testimonies in rape cases are obviously worth nothing. That’s the real legacy of this decision.

Roger
Roger
September 11, 2022 12:55 pm

The left is never wrong.

Once the intellectual veneer of Marxist theory is stripped away, the leftist worldview is revealed as essentially a regression to tribalism.

JC
JC
September 11, 2022 12:56 pm

It’s hard to know because I don’t read them in full or at all.

Then rely on our word.

Dover, let’s not have Twitter rules which are basically capricious. Stuthid is miles worse than Bird if you take out the anti-Semitism. In fact, if you remove the anti-Semitic stuff, Bird can be (not is, but can be) miles more interesting than the van canary. Yet Bird gets the size 10 and Stuthid remains. Unfair I think.

Moreover, sure anti-Semitism has much more serious connotations than throwing around other racist comments like wog etc. But perhaps you could say moderate Birdian commentary and also moderate sthuthid when say, he gets to 48 comments in a day criticising Rosie’s decision to get the jab.

Again, it’s your blog and you can do what you like. I’m just making a suggestion unlike someone else, who thought s/he owned your blog. I’m just keeping it real.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 11, 2022 12:58 pm

m0ntysays:

September 11, 2022 at 12:25 pm

How George Pell won in the High Court on a legal technicality

This High Court appeal did not ask whether Pell committed the offences …

It effectively did.
Submissions were made that the timelines put forward by the prosecution regarding the alleged offending.
You might recall Mzzz Judd, DPP, asked if she could amend the original timeline which would make the offending “possible”.
The bench said “No”.
And, in doing so said “possible” falls a long way short of “beyond reasonable doubt”.
The Full Bench found (7-Zip) that “it was not open to a jury to reach a guilty verdict”.
They effectively said the alleged offending was not possible, based on the evidence.
I know the best narrative their ABC could come up with was “technicality”, but this was no mere failure to file by the due date on the correct form.
It was a slam-dunk, emphatic, Not Guilty!

x 7.

JC
JC
September 11, 2022 12:59 pm

Dover

Stuthid is more annoying than USSR and that world competition level.

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