Open Thread – Weekend 24 Sept 2022


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Roger
Roger
September 26, 2022 10:40 am

My joy at the landslide electoral win in September 2013 didn’t last long…

Along with most of us.

But the point is it was a vote against R-G-R’s subversive levels of stupidity.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 26, 2022 10:47 am

The American 13% Strike Yet again – The African Jungles are calling, but perhaps the African Jungles don’t want them back?

Old Ozzie,

Do you truly believe that their genetic heritage makes African Americans innately violent and anti-social? Or is it just a form of linguistic exuberance.

Just asking for clarity.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 26, 2022 10:52 am

He obviously doesn’t get out much, or is spouting the Fairfax party line in mortal fear of losing his well paid gig. (6PR is owned by Ch Nein/Fairfax).

I’d say toeing the company line. Good job Sooky Sattler is dead, although probably rolling in his grave. Who do taxi drivers listen to now?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 26, 2022 11:00 am

Mother Lode

Old Ozzie,

Do you truly believe that their genetic heritage makes African Americans innately violent and anti-social? Or is it just a form of linguistic exuberance.

Just asking for clarity.

Hard to tell – happy to pick one or the other – just seems to be a consistent thread in America – and here in OZ – Aboriginal Communities in Australia – Wadeye/Port Keats

or

The Cultural Roots of Aboriginal Violence

and

The long history of Aboriginal violence — Part II

Roger
Roger
September 26, 2022 11:03 am

Do you truly believe that their genetic heritage makes African Americans innately violent and anti-social?

The African-American family was doing quite well until the Great Society happened.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
September 26, 2022 11:04 am

“Social media is the supreme triumph of the commonplace, the undiluted voice of the commonplace. All excellence is tracked down and exterminated. The commonplace infects everything. It grows like weeds everywhere and strangles all beautiful, exceptional flowers. All tall poppies are all cut down.”

Joe Dixon

Roger
Roger
September 26, 2022 11:07 am

“In the ’60s we waged a war on poverty, and poverty won.”

Ronald Reagan

Roger
Roger
September 26, 2022 11:13 am

A telling statistic:

In 2015, 72% of all black American children were born to umarried mothers.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
September 26, 2022 11:18 am

H B Bear says:
September 26, 2022 at 10:09 am

There is no Right. Only Far Right.

How far right do you have to go before you are left again?

Cassie of Sydney
September 26, 2022 11:19 am

““Social media is the supreme triumph of the commonplace”

I would add that social media is a triumph of the vulgar, the mediocre, the barbarian, the primitive, the savage, the fraudulent and the dishonourable.

It’s why I avoid it like the plague.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 26, 2022 11:19 am

The NSW government has announced a special adviser for disruptive students, with Premier Dominic Perrottet claiming it will help children to make the most out of educational opportunities.

“This is all about driving educational success so our kids get the best start in life,” Mr Perrottet told a press conference on Monday.

“A key part of that is not just focusing on academics; it’s focusing on behaviour. We want to have our classroom environments be the best behavioural environments they can be.”

The special adviser will work with teachers, parents and carers in public and private schools, in an attempt to stamp out inappropriate behaviour.

The announcement comes after students from Sydney’s Knox Grammar were referred to police over a group chat in which they discussed pedophilia and used homophobic and racist slurs. A review into the chat was conducted, though no child abuse material was found.

Oz

P
P
September 26, 2022 11:22 am
hzhousewife
hzhousewife
September 26, 2022 11:24 am

This is a lesson to never allow auto withdrawals from your account.

Yes, I agree.

local oaf
September 26, 2022 11:24 am

There is no Right. Only Far Right.

Left is good, extreme left is extreme good!

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity
Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity
September 26, 2022 11:25 am

That the CEO reportedly does not turn her phone on until 8.30am each day

CEO of a corp the size of Optus is available shop hours only?
Sacking her is just the start. Whoever recommended her & whoever hired her, they need to be sacked, today.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 26, 2022 11:25 am

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Crossiesays:

September 26, 2022 at 10:15 am

That the CEO reportedly does not turn her phone on until 8.30am each day possibly goes some way to explaining the 24 hour delay in going public.

That’s sounds about right from how the Optus CEO behaved so far. She is not paid enormous amounts of money to have a favourable life/work balance.

What got my radar spinning was her statement during her tearful presser that she was “angwy that someone would do this”.
This speaks to a breathtaking level of naivety.
“Angry” implies a level of surprise.
It’s like being angry that it rains on your wedding day in July. That tells me you didn’t consider the possibility, you ignored the forecast, and you had no contingency plan.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 26, 2022 11:27 am

Whether you agree with their analysis or not, it’s always based on official data with a link to the source. I would suggest you actually read the one about children, which starts –

At the end of August, we exclusively revealed that official mortality figures for Europe showed a shocking 691% increase in excess deaths among children up to week 33 of 2022 since the European Medicines Agency extended the emergency use authorisation of the Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine for use in children aged 12 to 15 in May 2021.

You’re correct insofar as this analysis is based on official data, but this is still typical Exposé rubbish.
In the EU-27 countries 95% of child deaths in the 0 to 15 population occur in the under-5 cohort.

In Europe this age group was unjabbed in Week 33 of 2022.

So, if Exposé’s shite conclusion had any validity, the whole weight of excess death numbers would apply to the jabbed component of the 12 to 15 cohort – who normally contribute ~2% of deaths to the whole 0 to 15 population.

I’m not about to mess around estimating the extraordinary excess death rate that implies, but I’m pretty sure someone would have noticed the growing pile of 12 to 15 year olds dying shortly after being jabbed.

The Exposé also seems to have plagiarised someone else’s rubbish statistics.

At the end of August, we exclusively revealed that official mortality figures for Europe…

That was published 29 August.

Two days previously, on 27 August, someone called Peter Immanuel published the same story:

It get’s worse…

If we take a look at the excess deaths among children aged 0-14 across Europe, there has been a HORRIFYING 1101% increase in excess deaths so far this year compared with the same time period in 2021. Why?

So, not exclusive – and no attribution.

The Exposé: bullshitting about bullshitting.
Buy ‘em a coffee.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 26, 2022 11:30 am

And, right on cue, Dr F arrives with his pocket calculator* and his baseball bat.
Well batted, sir!
….
* Pulling the wings off the Daily Exposé doesn’t require a scientific calculator.

rickw
rickw
September 26, 2022 11:34 am

“angwy that someone would do this”

Stupid little girl.

This has been typical of industry for the last 30 years. Because gender. Fast tracked to a spectacularly destructive finale.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 26, 2022 11:39 am

Psays:
September 26, 2022 at 11:22 am
The Unvaccinated Have Won

Don’t tell Rosie.

local oaf
September 26, 2022 11:40 am

““Social media is the supreme triumph of the commonplace”

The classic definition of Fascism 1920s style was a mutually satisfactory alliance of ruling political party, union thugs and big Capital. The Pollies with the union thugs to terrify the people into submission, dominated the alliance.

Fascism today is the same thing, but big Capital now wields the thugs – carefully curated mobs of real or imaginary people on the social media sites that big Capital owns.

These mobs don’t just terrify the people, they control the media and terrify the Pollies into submission. Doesn’t matter which side of politics is in power, big Capital dominates the Fascism of today.

Roger
Roger
September 26, 2022 11:41 am

This has been typical of industry for the last 30 years. Because gender. Fast tracked to a spectacularly destructive finale.

Mmm…she was terminated by the CBA as part of their executive clean out after the banking RC.

Roger
Roger
September 26, 2022 11:45 am

Methinks this is the last time she’s going to fail upwards.

JC
JC
September 26, 2022 11:46 am

I can’t believe the bing turned on her phone at 8.30 am. Just unreal.

JC
JC
September 26, 2022 11:48 am

Kelly Bayer Rosmarin

No hyphens here.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 26, 2022 11:55 am

A selection of the comments in the Herald-Sun article New ad campaign asks Australians to be a part of history and support a Voice to Parliament:

B. Beaumont

Definite no – sadly the left and greenie do-gooders have probably never set foot into an aboriginal community or talked to locals in Darwin about the issues and how to solve them. Get some grass roots facts from the elders, not people like Lydia Thorpe.

Shizen Houser

I’ve only recently dug up my back yard and can see no signs of indigenous people ever living or ever staying here. I’m wondering if they are claiming the whole total land mass of the Australian continent as their land. If the indigenous people tried to do this in Europe then they would run into problems due to many countries on the same land mass. Does having a bush camp in Broome entitle a claim on land never used or ever walked on in say Ringwood or Essendon. Because ths us what’s happening to us. This is my Voice

Michael

no chance. lets divide the country into 2. The top half can be aboriginal and all those woke people can go with them and the bottom half of Australia for those proud to be Australian

B

Good luck…that’s all I have to say.

Cheers

Will this be the start on paying rent to live in Australia where l was born and my home. How much is the future reconciliation land tax for our private homes going to cost?

Firm NO.

Simon

That will be a No from me!

Ian Maxwell

I hope Albo and all of the other airhead pollies, read these comments. Dont bother with the Vote as the public sentiment is sticking out like a sore thumb here…No more divisive ideas..ONE NATION equal to all…

brad

No chance . Hell would have to freeze over

Nancy

What about our voice to call out the indigenous crime being committed against us and the lenient sentences, what about the preference given to them like cheap interest rate, special medicinal centres, dedicated phone lines and free health services we could only dream of?? They get a great deal of things for free we can’t yet it’s never enough?? What more do they want, I would be happy to change places. Yes they have had a raw deal but things have improved now just let the past go and all move on together.

Robert

No way

Cassandra

If the federal government have funding to waste on this, how about they scrap this idea and provide the States the funding for their health systems which are crumbling. Albo get your priorities right, this is not one of them.

Maureen

Tell them they’r dreaming, after the disgraceful act of burning the flag… not likely

357 comments so far and not one in favour – maybe Albo’s missed the bus.

JC
JC
September 26, 2022 11:56 am

Ender

No travelogue?

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 26, 2022 12:03 pm

Yeah JC, I posted quite a bit.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 26, 2022 12:04 pm

Doesn’t turn their phone on under 8:30am?
What a load of shit.
They have just become a meme.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 26, 2022 12:05 pm

rickw

Things like this make me wonder what’s wrong with Australia, when was the last time we did a U-turn away from stupidity?

We thought we did such U-turns in 1975, 1996 and 2013.We were misled.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 26, 2022 12:05 pm

The USD is king.
All hail the king.

rosie
rosie
September 26, 2022 12:06 pm

What makes you think I care what the unvaccinated have won Grey Ranga*?
I never supported mandates, for the zillionth time.
*didn’t read the article so just guessing what the win was.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 26, 2022 12:09 pm

Doesn’t turn their phone on under 8:30am?

Bern, she has to eat.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 26, 2022 12:11 pm

Big_Nambassays:
September 26, 2022 at 11:18 am
H B Bear says:
September 26, 2022 at 10:09 am

There is no Right. Only Far Right.

How far right do you have to go before you are left again?

Ask Hitler and Mussolini, they did it, quite successfully for a while.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 26, 2022 12:11 pm

Neither did I Rosie.

rosie
rosie
September 26, 2022 12:13 pm
rosie
rosie
September 26, 2022 12:13 pm

So why the smart arse remark in my direction Ranga?

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 26, 2022 12:14 pm

TE, Maybe Albo’s missed the bus. I doubt Albo knows what a bus is.

m0nty
September 26, 2022 12:15 pm

Doesn’t matter which side of politics is in power, big Capital dominates the Fascism of today.

Always has, always will.

And yet the Republican and Liberal parties are the parties of big Capital, but you lot don’t seem to ever make the connection. Curious.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 26, 2022 12:15 pm

No duelling allowed on this thread.

JC
JC
September 26, 2022 12:16 pm

feelthebern says:
September 26, 2022 at 12:05 pm
The USD is king.
All hail the king.

It’s pretty ugly, Bernmiester. It’s a late term abortion. The fed has gone in too slow. They should have raised last year when Nominal GDP hit 10%. Now the curve is inverting suggesting they went in too hard. Powell is a fucking moron.

rosie
rosie
September 26, 2022 12:17 pm

Then don’t do it.

Johnny Rotten
September 26, 2022 12:19 pm

A crusty old man walks into a bank and shouts to the woman at the teller window “I want to open a fucking checking account”. The astonished woman replies “I beg your pardon sir. I must have misunderstood you. What did you say?” “Listen up you fuck. I said I want to open a fucking checking account now!!” “I’m very sorry sir, but that kind of language is not tolerated in this bank”. The teller leaves the window and goes over to the bank manager to inform him of her situation. The manager agrees that the teller does not have to listen to that foul language. They both return to the window and the manager asks the old geezer “Sir, what seems to be the problem here?” “There is no fucking problem” the man says. “I just won 50 million bucks in the fucking lottery and I just want to open a fucking checking account in this fucking bank, okay?” “I see” says the manager “and is this fat bitch giving you a hard time?”

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 26, 2022 12:19 pm

Munty what was Dictator Dan doing at Lindsay Fox’s place then? Apart from falling down the stairs.

Johnny Rotten
September 26, 2022 12:20 pm

Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned.

– Buddha

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 26, 2022 12:21 pm

And yet the Republican and Liberal parties are the parties of big Capital

Nooo, Monty, those parties have historically been the parties of small capital.
The parties of Big Capital are the Democrats and Labor (and the Greens increasingly).
This alliance persecutes small to medium businesses because they represent a threat.

You are somewhat correct though because the Libs are turning into Labor in front of our eyes.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 26, 2022 12:22 pm

Powell is a fucking moron.

Aye.

rosie
rosie
September 26, 2022 12:22 pm
Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 26, 2022 12:23 pm

Indigenous Australians Minister Linda Burney said on Sunday that enshrining a Voice to Parliament in the constitution would have a tangible impact on the lives of Indigenous people.

But with some raising concerns around a two-tier system, she said the Voice would not be consulted on every piece of legislation before the federal parliament.

Ms Burney said it would only consult on issues that “affect directly the lives of First Nations people”.

“Things like land rights, legislation, things like native title, things like cultural water allocations, things like childcare,” she said.

“So why pick on things like taxation or defence and some of the other nonsense that’s been sprouted in the last few weeks.”

Why?
Well, because that’s exactly what Albanese’s form of words for the proposed amendment allows.

There is a vanishingly small chance that the GreenLeft-inspired activist wing of the Aboriginal industry would be satisfied with The Voice being limited to giving advice on cultural business.

m0nty
September 26, 2022 12:23 pm

Nooo, Monty, those parties have historically been the parties of small capital.
The parties of Big Capital are the Democrats and Labor (and the Greens increasingly).

Congratulations Bruce, that sets a new record for the dumbest thing you ever said.

rosie
rosie
September 26, 2022 12:25 pm
Boambee John
Boambee John
September 26, 2022 12:26 pm

And yet the Republican and Liberal parties are the parties of big Capital, but you lot don’t seem to ever make the connection. Curious.

Yerrsss, m0nty-fa, Big Capital supports the Republicans and Liberals. It is so clear, with Gates, Zuckerman, Bezos, the major Foundations (Ford, Rockefeller, et al). All regularly donating to conservative parties.

You fascist idiot.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 26, 2022 12:32 pm

I was trying to figure out what irked me about the Optus CEO’s teary presser.
I think it was the undercurrent of “I’m a victim too!”

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 26, 2022 12:35 pm

Haha, Monty lost again. He always goes ad hom when he loses, when he has no answer to the self-evidentially correct disproof of his contention.

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
September 26, 2022 12:38 pm

Dr F, the land rights, native title and water access which Burney cited is not “cultural business”, it’s the “you’ll own nothing and you’ll be happy” business of the WEF and CCP where our nation is conquered by regulation and the permit Raj and an appointed elite control what we currently call property, capital and the means of production.

bespoke
bespoke
September 26, 2022 12:43 pm

Rogersays:

September 26, 2022 at 11:13 am

A telling statistic:

In 2015, 72% of all black American children were born to umarried mothers

Had to bite my tongue the other day at the library with my granddaughter.
Posters saying it “takes a community to raise a child” and others about sharing. These aren’t benign statements of old. This is a full on campaign to reduce the family unit to mere caretakers of kids and diminish individuality.

Toxic maternalism.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 26, 2022 12:46 pm

Bowen calls Greens’ bluff on carbon rules, gas demands

Energy and Climate Change Minister Chris Bowen has effectively told the Greens he will not be held ransom by demands to turn a key emissions reduction mechanism into an anti-gas crusade, with the most material changes to be done by regulation.

In a move that challenges the minority party to take to the Senate a disallowance motion that would unwind measures aimed at cutting emissions, Mr Bowen said his reforms were “not designed as a mechanism to stop any new oil and gas”.

“It is designed as a mechanism to reduce emissions from our biggest companies. That’s what it will do,” he said in an exclusive interview with The Australian Financial Review.

Warning that he would be “very sensitive” to the needs of trade-exposed large emitters, Mr Bowen said there was no reason to legislate his planned changes to the so-called safeguard mechanism, a voluntary scheme that seeks to curb emissions from the country’s 215 largest industrial and resources emitters.

“Why would you? I guess technically you can legislate something you don’t need to legislate, but I’m not aware of any governments that have done that,” he said.

“This is a change which is done by regulation. By ‘legislative rule’, I’m told, is the more technically correct term. And that’s how I intend to do it.”

Mr Bowen said members of parliament were “more than welcome” to talk to him directly about their ideas.

“But I’ll be making calls about the regulation. I want real emissions reduction from the sector … but I’ll be very sensitive to the needs of emissions intensive trade-exposed industry.”

‘I want real emissions reduction’

Greens leader Adam Bandt three weeks ago drew the battle lines over the pending reforms, which are the centrepiece of Labor’s strategy to cut national emissions by 43 per cent, a 2030 target that passed into law this month with the support of the Greens.

Mr Bandt slammed the mechanism established under the previous Coalition government as a “rent-seeker’s paradise rife with opportunities for greased wheels and special deals”, and said he was willing to work with Mr Bowen but only if it resulted in “real cuts from coal and gas”.

Mr Bowen said he plans to work up a series of changes that would ensure the safeguard mechanism drives emissions reductions across the economy.

Asked whether the reforms create an “absolute carbon budget” that results, in effect, in a zero-sum game, Mr Bowen said he would not use such a term.

“But I want real emissions reduction. Don’t read more or less into that about what it means. It means I want emissions down from these big emitters.”

The government has started considering proposals from businesses and lobby groups to make the mechanism more assertive, with the new rules due to take effect from the middle of next year.

A discussion paper released last month by the energy and climate change department “makes clear that we need to reflect the different technological capabilities of different sectors”, Mr Bowen said in the interview.

“Gas has different technologies available to it at the moment than does coal, than do the airlines, than do aluminum smelters.”

“And in five years’ time, that will have changed, and they’ll have different technical capacities at different points.

“We’re cognisant of that, but I’m not doing it not to get real emissions reduction from the sector.”

Call to expand the carbon rules

In a submission to the government to be released on Monday, the Carbon Market Institute calls for the safeguard changes to be made in a way that ensures the mechanism can be expanded beyond the 215 biggest emitters.

Companies now fall under the safeguard mechanism when they emit more than 100,000 tonnes of carbon a year, but the institute says the threshold could be lowered to 25,000 tonnes.

That would potentially add thousands of companies to the scheme but spread the burden more widely across the economy. It might also become necessary in decades beyond 2030 as Australia lifts its United Nations climate target above 43 per cent.

“This will allow the government to scale Australia’s climate ambition beyond the 43 per cent 2030 [nationally determined contribution] when it sets the 2035 NDC, and subsequent NDCs thereafter,” the institute said in its submission.

While Labor is shaping up to ignore the Greens’ demands for an even more ambitious scheme, Mr Bowen confirmed he still needed to legislate below-the-baseline crediting for facilities under his safeguard reforms.

However, he said this was something the previous government had said it would do as well. “I would be hoping that that sailed through the parliament fairly uncontroversially given it’s meant to be bipartisan policy.”

Any move by the Greens to pass a disallowance motion against Mr Bowen’s future safeguard mechanism changes would need the support of the Coalition, which has yet to resolve its internal differences over climate policy.

Moderate Liberals, in particular, are leery of moves that would allow teal independents to portray the Coalition as out of touch on climate.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 26, 2022 12:47 pm

Bern, she has to eat.

Nice one BoN @ 12;09pm.

Referencing plod Christine.

Johnny Rotten
September 26, 2022 12:47 pm

Your/their BoM’s alpine page has, for NSW’s Thredbo and VIC’s Mt Hotham, 7 days and 7 nights of FREEZING SNOW (emphasising not shouting). From today, Monday 26, to Sunday 2 October – when your Daylight Robbery commences – snow showers and overnight sub-zero temps from a (rare?) southeast-quarter breeze.

Klimate Aktivism in action? Nah, La Niña.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 26, 2022 12:47 pm

and water access which Burney cited is not “cultural business”

I can see the taxpayer buying some of my water rights at a price that only the taxpayer would pay.
Carry on.

Roger
Roger
September 26, 2022 12:48 pm

I can’t believe the bing turned on her phone at 8.30 am. Just unreal.

I read it in the a Fin Rev puff piece a while back – how she manages stress, iirc.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 26, 2022 12:49 pm

In 2015, 72% of all black American children were born to umarried mothers

This is a function of the 90’s Crime bill.
I wonder who one of the key architects of that was?

Roger
Roger
September 26, 2022 12:49 pm

This is a full on campaign to reduce the family unit to mere caretakers of kids and diminish individuality.

It started with the push to get mums into the workforce, which the Liberal Party was fully on board with.

Roger
Roger
September 26, 2022 12:54 pm

This is a function of the 90’s Crime bill.
I wonder who one of the key architects of that was?

That certainly didn’t help…but it’s been trending upwards since the late ’60s.

So the young black men being incarcerated in the ’90s were likely raised by single mothers. Hello.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 26, 2022 12:55 pm

Franking credits change ‘very minor’: Chalmers
Chloe Whelan
CHLOE WHELAN

The federal government is attempting to introduce retrospective legislation that would stop fully franked dividends from Australian companies that have paid their full amount of tax, with Jim Chalmers insisting it is a “very minor change”.

The legislation would retrospectively stop companies paying shareholders fully franked dividends funded by capital raisings.

The change was first proposed by the Coalition in 2016 and the Treasurer claimed it was a simple loophole closure.

“This is a Liberal Party policy announced by treasurer Scott Morrison in the 2016 mid-year update,” Dr Chalmers told reporters in Canberra on Monday.

“This is a very minor change proposed by the Liberals who couldn’t get their act together on legislation, another mess that we’ve been asked to clean up, which wasn’t done by our predecessors. It’s a very minor measure.”

Why don’t I trust this rabble with anything to do with franking credits?

m0nty
September 26, 2022 12:57 pm

– Labour is the party of Capital
– Democrats are the party of fascism
– Russia is the champion of Western values

You lot believe in some pretty dumb talking points.

Roger
Roger
September 26, 2022 12:59 pm

It started with the push to get mums into the workforce, which the Liberal Party was fully on board with.

A policy pioneered by the Soviets, btw, as was government subsidised child care.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 26, 2022 1:02 pm

Can’t believe how Geelong have behaved today.
Hopefully the HRC will tout for ageist complaints against their behaviour similar to the way they touted for race related ones against Leak Sr.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 26, 2022 1:04 pm

Nobody believes what you say munty.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 26, 2022 1:05 pm

I read it in the a Fin Rev puff piece a while back – how she manages stress, iirc.

I possibly read the same thing, but in the SMH.
It read a bit like Obumbi’s Nobel Peace prize for being elected. It was touting her raging success 24 hours after she got the job.
If she was even in the pool of twenty being considered for the CBA top job, that is fucking scary.

mem
mem
September 26, 2022 1:05 pm

Can anyone explain what is a “future safeguard mechanism” as used by Minister Bowen?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 26, 2022 1:07 pm

The legislation would retrospectively stop companies paying shareholders fully franked dividends funded by capital raisings.

The change was first proposed by the Coalition in 2016 and the Treasurer claimed it was a simple loophole closure.

I actually agree with this.

JC
JC
September 26, 2022 1:09 pm

I read it in the a Fin Rev puff piece a while back – how she manages stress, iirc.

Have you seen the puff piece about Atlassian in the Oz. It’s pathetic but the comments are hysterical. People are saying they’re woke sacks of turd and no-one can figure out what they do or what the puff piece was exactly promoting.

Go looksee. They’re disliked.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 26, 2022 1:13 pm

– Democrats are the party of fascism

To take just one of m0nty-fa’s latest stupid “talking points”, FDR (remember him m0nty-fa – DemonRat president for over 12 years). He was a great admirer of Hitler and Mussolini. And also Stalin, another well -known lefty.

So, yes, historically the DemonRats are the party of fascism (and also its companion, racism).

How did Mussolini describe fascism: “The marriage of government and business”.

Roger
Roger
September 26, 2022 1:14 pm

Go looksee. They’re disliked.

The hyphenated one certainly gets on my nerves; at least I’m not alone!

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
September 26, 2022 1:23 pm

Ag, or other industry getting priced out of acquiring water licenses by a corporation which prints money… is not a situation i’d endorse. Taxpayers hardly figure.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 26, 2022 1:25 pm

Have you seen the puff piece about Atlassian in the Oz. It’s pathetic but the comments are hysterical. People are saying they’re woke sacks of turd and no-one can figure out what they do or what the puff piece was exactly promoting.

Go looksee. They’re disliked.

I know, right.
Some of the upticks against adverse comments about those two dicks have to be seen to be believed.

shatterzzz
September 26, 2022 1:30 pm

Your/their BoM’s alpine page has, for NSW’s Thredbo and VIC’s Mt Hotham, 7 days and 7 nights of FREEZING SNOW

What does that, actually, mean? .. as a Geordie who grew up in umpteen freezing winters and snowy ones, as well even I know that it doesn’t snow when it is freezing .. FFS!

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 26, 2022 1:33 pm

Pocock being one of the more sensible members of the Senate is a pleasant surprise.
Early days though.

Diogenes
Diogenes
September 26, 2022 1:36 pm

Your/their BoM’s alpine page has, for NSW’s Thredbo and VIC’s Mt Hotham, 7 days and 7 nights of FREEZING SNOW

Is this the snow our children would never see again?

Johnny Rotten
September 26, 2022 1:41 pm

m0ntysays:
September 26, 2022 at 12:57 pm
– Labour is the party of Capital
– Democrats are the party of fascism
– Russia is the champion of Western values

You lot believe in some pretty dumb talking points.</e

Us Lot are pretty much on the ball whereas you are playing with your balls……………………

shatterzzz
September 26, 2022 1:42 pm

TE, Maybe Albo’s missed the bus. I doubt Albo knows what a bus is.

‘course he does! .. when he was “houso” he’d catch the bus two stops towards “private” school then mum would pick him up & drive him the rest of the way so the “private” kids wouldn’t laff at’im gettin’ orf the bus ..
reverse it on the way back so the “houso” kids wouldn’t bully ‘im fer gettin’ a lift ..
life is tuff when yer growin’ up “houso” but yer ends up “fightin’ Tories” mean ..!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 26, 2022 1:46 pm

Rogersays:

September 26, 2022 at 1:14 pm

Go looksee. They’re disliked.

The hyphenated one certainly gets on my nerves; at least I’m not alone!

You clearly haven’t had enough exposure to the non-hyphenated one.
I can’t split them.

rosie
rosie
September 26, 2022 1:51 pm

Thanks again OO.

Bar Beach Swimmer
September 26, 2022 1:51 pm

First swim today – freezing! Only lasted 5 minutes.

In other news, 7 ships off the coast.

Bar Beach Swimmer
September 26, 2022 1:52 pm

Pocock being one of the more sensible members of the Senate is a pleasant surprise.
Early days though.

In what way, ftb?

Diogenes
Diogenes
September 26, 2022 1:56 pm

You clearly haven’t had enough exposure to the non-hyphenated one.

Did the puff piece mention the feud between the wives? As I understand it, they bought adjacent harbourside blocks, and one put in a development application to do a massive renno, the other spurred on by his missus was the only objector.
My info is 2nd hand through a relation who happens to be a friend of one of the mother’s. Relation did not say who was who in this story.

Cassie of Sydney
September 26, 2022 2:02 pm

Test.

Johnny Rotten
September 26, 2022 2:03 pm

“It is during our darkest moments that we must focus to see the light.”

-Aristotle

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 26, 2022 2:09 pm

Cassie of Sydneysays:

September 26, 2022 at 2:02 pm

Test.

Enough, already!
Take it to the Duelling Thread.

bespoke
bespoke
September 26, 2022 2:11 pm

last sentence is atrocious

Indeed, do better.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 26, 2022 2:11 pm

Diogenes, I did not know that.
The sickly veneer of bromance is another thing which I find weird about those two.

Cassie of Sydney
September 26, 2022 2:11 pm

Despite being Jewish New Year, I didn’t wake up this morning feeling particularly good. So, late this morning I decided to go for a walk. Walking down Oxford Street, near Paddington Barracks, I noticed two young people, a female and a male, plastering posters on electricity poles. So, I went up and read the posters, which said in big red lettering

‘Protest The Far Right CPAC Conference
1pm Saturday 1st October
Outside ICC, Darling Harbour
Protest CPAC attendees
Tony Abbott, Mark Latham, Nigel Farage’

I confronted the two shits and I said to them that what they’re doing is illegal and every time they put a poster, I’ll tear it down. They shrugged their shoulders and continued to plaster the posters, so I then walked up to the two and I said….’I’m the real Marxist here, and come the revolution, middle class scum like you will be dealt with.”

They blinked, their adolescent jaws dropped, they were speechless and I watched as the pair scuttled back to the School of Fine Arts where they had come from (located just off Oxford Street). And I then proceeded to tear down every poster the pair had put up. That’s how you deal with the left, you don’t turn the other cheek, you don’t say, “oh my, please don’t do that”. You throw it back at them and you render them speechless. I feel good now, really good. My day has improved.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 26, 2022 2:12 pm

Senator David Pocock has challenged the Greens to support his plans to overturn Labor’s decision to dismantle rules that force superannuation funds to detail their spending on political parties, marketing and fees to industrial groups.

The Greens joined Senator Pocock and other crossbenchers on Sunday in a joint letter calling on Labor to adopt a series of measures to bolster the potency of the government’s planned federal integrity commission.

“Anyone watching the men’s AFL grand final on the weekend would have seen prime-time super advertisements,” said David Pocock. “This is a massive industry with huge power.”

https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/pocock-pushes-greens-to-leverage-labor-on-super-transparency-20220925-p5bkup

The link to the paywalled column is there but I cut n paste the opening two paragraphs.

duncanm
duncanm
September 26, 2022 2:16 pm

But but.. Kelly says she loves being interrupted and “keeping her finger on the pulse”

Why was she out of touch till 8:30am?

JC
JC
September 26, 2022 2:16 pm

Diogenes, is that true. If it is it’s hilarious.

What mental asylum.

How terrible if true if the wives are squabbling and the two doofues don’t intervene to shut them up? FMD.

Johnny Rotten
September 26, 2022 2:22 pm

This priest decided to skip church one Sunday morning and go play golf. he told his assistant that he wasn’t feeling well. He drove to a golf course in another city, so nobody would know him. He teed off on the first hole. A huge gust of wind caught his ball, carried is an extra hundred yards and dropped it right in the hole, for a 450-yard hole in one. An angel looked at God and said “What’d you do that for?” God smiled and said “Who’s he going to tell?”

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
September 26, 2022 2:26 pm

Johnny Rotten says:
September 26, 2022 at 2:22 pm

Dave Allen joke.

Diogenes
Diogenes
September 26, 2022 2:27 pm

Diogenes, is that true. If it is it’s hilarious.

I believe Mrs Ds relative. They may have made up since.

Johnny Rotten
September 26, 2022 2:33 pm

A soldier ran up to a nun.

Out of breath he asked “Please, may I hide under your skirt, I’ll explain later”.

The nun agreed.

A moment later two military police ran up and asked “Sister, have you seen a soldier?” The nun replied “He went that way”.

After the military police ran off, the soldier crawled out from under her skirt and said “I can’t thank you enough Sister. You see, I don’t want to go to the Ukraine”. The nun said “I understand completely”.

The soldier added “I hope I’m not rude, but you have a great pair of legs!” The nun replied “If you had looked a little higher, you would’ve seen a great pair of balls. I don’t want to go to the Ukraine either!”

Cassie of Sydney
September 26, 2022 2:46 pm

“duncanmsays:
September 26, 2022 at 2:16 pm
But but.. Kelly says she loves being interrupted and “keeping her finger on the pulse”

Why was she out of touch till 8:30am?

Shades of Christine Nixon and Catherine Burn. But it’ll be okay, the sisterhood always gets a free pass.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 26, 2022 2:48 pm

Poocock is as green as they come. He tried to get going with the greens but they had their own scum further up the greasy pole so he went it alone.

Speedbox
September 26, 2022 3:11 pm

Dr Faustus says:
September 26, 2022 at 12:23 pm
Indigenous Australians Minister Linda Burney said on Sunday that enshrining a Voice to Parliament in the constitution would have a tangible impact on the lives of Indigenous people. But with some raising concerns around a two-tier system, she said the Voice would not be consulted on every piece of legislation before the federal parliament.

Why?
Well, because that’s exactly what Albanese’s form of words for the proposed amendment allows. There is a vanishingly small chance that the GreenLeft-inspired activist wing of the Aboriginal industry would be satisfied with The Voice being limited to giving advice on cultural business.

Indeed. I would have thought that every piece of legislation passed at a federal level would affect indigenous people, to a greater or lesser extent, just as every piece of legislation impacts every one of us, to a greater or lesser extent. And there is no way it will be confined to cultural aspects. Classic slippery slope trap.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 26, 2022 3:35 pm

JCsays:

September 26, 2022 at 2:16 pm

Diogenes, is that true. If it is it’s hilarious.

What mental asylum.

How terrible if true if the wives are squabbling and the two doofues don’t intervene to shut them up? FMD.

There was a gossip column piece a while back that there were rifts in the Awesome Foursome.
I thought it was hinting at someone digging a hole under the fence.
They are so gay.
They wouldn’t care if someone was doing the wife … just don’t poach my interior designer.

Razey
Razey
September 26, 2022 3:37 pm

dover0beachsays:
September 26, 2022 at 3:36 pm
New Catallaxy
@New_Catallaxy
Pitch perfect.
Quote Tweet
Greg Price
@greg_price11
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1h
This is Italy’s new Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni.

I’ve never heard any politician so perfectly explain what we’re up against and why we fight.

When you watch this video, you’ll quickly realize why the establishment is afraid of her.

Let’s hope the promise bears fruit.

If it’s anything like Scummo’s performance, Italy will move further to the left.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 26, 2022 3:37 pm

This has been typical of industry for the last 30 years. Because gender. Fast tracked to a spectacularly destructive finale.

Your not wrong. My mates … white in their 50s. Might as well not show up.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 26, 2022 3:40 pm

Diogenessays:

September 26, 2022 at 2:27 pm

Diogenes, is that true. If it is it’s hilarious.

I believe Mrs Ds relative. They may have made up since.

If one of them has poached the best piece of Calacatta marble to come out of the Carrara quarry from under the nose of the other, there is no coming back from that.
It is Duelling Thread stuff.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 26, 2022 3:42 pm

Powell is a fucking moron.

Join the queue. Look for Greenspan.

Zatara
Zatara
September 26, 2022 3:48 pm

Lead up to the US mid-term elections.

Operation Demoralize

“The media swarms and lies. Tells you it’s over, wants you to give up. Happens every single time.” Don’t fall for it.

Operation Demoralize Has Failed

The ABC/WaPo poll released today is particularly gruesome for Democrats. Biden’s “red” speech also was a wake up call and motivator. Maybe the only success of the speech was to awaken sleeping Republican voters.

The recent “likely voter” as opposed to “registered voter” generic ballot polling points to a strong Republican lead in a measure that has a history of predicting overall control of congress

You know what they say about polls. But the commentary rings true.

Speedbox
September 26, 2022 3:49 pm

H B Bear says:
September 26, 2022 at 3:37 pm
Your not wrong. My mates … white in their 50s. Might as well not show up.

I said to someone only a few days ago that I am discriminated against on almost a daily basis. I am routinely subjected to ageism, racism and sexism. Worse, the MSM created a virtual meme and assorted radio, TV and social media ‘personalities’ poke fun without any outcry at the blatancy of it.

What am I? An older fair skinned male aka ‘old white bloke’.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 26, 2022 3:52 pm

Your not wrong. My mates … white in their 50s. Might as well not show up.

I am semi-retired and just doing a bit of work here and there, so not directly impacted.
But, yes, I would hate to be needing to get a job to keep a roof over the head without being able to put Vag on the CV.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 26, 2022 3:52 pm

Very concerning how the big cheese at the EU opened their pie hole over the Italian elections.

Razey
Razey
September 26, 2022 3:53 pm

Speedboxsays:
September 26, 2022 at 3:49 pm
H B Bear says:
September 26, 2022 at 3:37 pm
Your not wrong. My mates … white in their 50s. Might as well not show up.

I said to someone only a few days ago that I am discriminated against on almost a daily basis. I am routinely subjected to ageism, racism and sexism. Worse, the MSM created a virtual meme and assorted radio, TV and social media ‘personalities’ poke fun without any outcry at the blatancy of it.

What am I? An older fair skinned male aka ‘old white bloke’.

Time to move to the Philippines. At least our pension is worth something to the young ladies there.

Johnny Rotten
September 26, 2022 3:56 pm

A Muslim immigrant kid asks his mother “Mama, what’s a Democracy and what is Racism?” “Well, son, Democracy is when Australian tax payers work every day so we can get all our benefits, you know like free housing, free healthcare, more welfare payments than pensioners get, and on and on, you know, that’s Democracy”. “But Mama, don’t the tax payers, and pensioners get pissed off about that?” “Sure they do, and that’s called Racism!”

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 26, 2022 3:57 pm

Can we have a report alleged joke button?

Johnny Rotten
September 26, 2022 3:57 pm

Do not go where the path may lead, go instead where there is no path and leave a trail.

-Ralph Waldo Emerson

JC
JC
September 26, 2022 3:59 pm

Let’s hope the promise bears fruit.

Dover, specifically on the economy, what promises have she/they made?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 26, 2022 3:59 pm

Time to move to the Philippines. At least our pension is worth something to the young ladies there.

Oh dear.
Oh deary, deary me.
…..
Hi, Prince Andrew!

Johnny Rotten
September 26, 2022 4:00 pm

Time to move to the Philippines. At least our pension is worth something to the young ladies there.

Very true and they respect their Elders too. And they are building lots of HELE Coal Fired Power Stations.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 26, 2022 4:07 pm

Be careful what you wish for. My old man used to tell the story how he pulled a metal skewer out of some miners’ chest. He married an Asian lady but obviously it wasn’t working out as planned.

Cassie of Sydney
September 26, 2022 4:09 pm

“Time to move to the Philippines. At least our pension is worth something to the young ladies there.”

I thought you were moving to Japan?

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 26, 2022 4:09 pm

He married an Asian lady but obviously it wasn’t working out as planned.

Worked out ok for Lang Hancock didn’t it?
….didn’t it?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 26, 2022 4:10 pm

Dr Faustus at 11.47:

Exceptional takedown of the Expothe.

An entirely appropriate analysis and destruction of the ‘but it has a link and numbers in it’ argument.

Razey
Razey
September 26, 2022 4:10 pm

Cassie of Sydneysays:
September 26, 2022 at 4:09 pm
“Time to move to the Philippines. At least our pension is worth something to the young ladies there.”

I thought you were moving to Japan?

If I was of pensionable age, the Philippines looks great.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 26, 2022 4:11 pm

Time to move to the Philippines

Someone’s just compared the yen to the peso.

Speedbox
September 26, 2022 4:11 pm

Razey says:
September 26, 2022 at 3:53 pm
At least our pension is worth something to the young ladies there.

I’m still working but even so, I suspect Mrs Speedbox may have a strongly held opinion on that subject.

calli
calli
September 26, 2022 4:14 pm

You throw it back at them and you render them speechless. I feel good now, really good. My day has improved.

Ha! I read that to the Beloved. He gives you many…many upticks.

COFA will be buzzing with tales of victimisation and lack of safe spaces off campus. Perhaps you’ll feature in an interactive artwork.

JC
JC
September 26, 2022 4:15 pm

I’ve read a little on the “Al Jizz- ira” site about the new Italian government’s policies.

The one policy they have relating to the debt is that the new government wants to access an EU lending program.

Economy and social

The programme says Italy should make full use of the almost 200 billion euros ($193 billion) it has been allotted under the EU’s recovery plan in the wake of the COVID-19 pandemic.

They share a currency within the EU and the nation’s debt is approaching 135% of GDP. They have one of the oldest populations in Europe and the economy along with per capita GDP hasn’t risen in 25 years. Debt has grown though and they want to borrow more by accessing the EU allotment.

Can I just make one single comment. They’re fucked and they actually take Europe and the rest of the world down – into a tailspin- due to their almost 3 trillion Euro debt position.

Rising yields increase the cost of servicing Italy’s debt. That debt pile rose to a record 2.759 trillion euros in April, according to the Bank of Italy. Italy remains a very wealthy country – household net financial wealth is an estimated 10 trillion euros – but the problem is refinancing risks as debt comes due.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 26, 2022 4:16 pm

Can I just make one single comment. They’re fucked and they actually take Europe and the rest of the world down – into a tailspin- due to their almost 3 trillion Euro debt position.

Yes, dear lord yes.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 26, 2022 4:17 pm

Hearing about the euro-weenies collapsing gives me a hard on.

calli
calli
September 26, 2022 4:19 pm

There is definitely a sense of a culture in decline here in York.

JC
JC
September 26, 2022 4:21 pm

Hearing about the euro-weenies collapsing gives me a hard on.

LOl..

There is an alternative, though Bern. The Germans could allow the Euro to fry and thereby allow Italy to get off the hook with a currency devaluation they will all share. In other words turn the entire EU into Italy. But I can’t see the Germans buying into this as it makes their own position worse with the energy issue regarding the cost.

I can’t see a way out of the quagmire. I think we’re just rooted.

calli
calli
September 26, 2022 4:22 pm

Reminds me of the sadness of a shop owner in Vernazza, circa 2016.

“Italy is finished. The smart ones moved out long ago.”

Speedbox
September 26, 2022 4:24 pm

What a bloody day on the ASX. Down 102.1 points (1.50%). Nasty follow-on from last week’s declines.

And today it was my turn. Had skimmed across the top of the other declines with winners and losers but was totally savaged today. Down 5.56%.

On the plus side, I did pick up some bargains. (Yes, I know about not trying to catch a falling knife).

Johnny Rotten
September 26, 2022 4:26 pm

Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better.

– Albert Einstein

Makka
Makka
September 26, 2022 4:29 pm

He married an Asian lady but obviously it wasn’t working out as planned.

In many cases(not all) of marrying Asian lasses, you marry her and you may also marry the village. Certainly the extended family. Not to say there aren’t many advantages, just be prepared.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 26, 2022 4:30 pm

“Italy is finished. The smart ones moved out long ago.”

Same with Scotland, but only 200 years sooner.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 26, 2022 4:32 pm

Does the average Italian care about what’s going on?
As long as they can drink their espresso & smoke a cigarillo for breakfast, they’re happy.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 26, 2022 4:33 pm

Indigenous Australians Minister Linda Burney said on Sunday that enshrining a Voice to Parliament in the constitution would have a tangible impact on the lives of Indigenous people.

I don’t suppose anyone thought to ask “What? And how?”

JC
JC
September 26, 2022 4:35 pm

feelthebern says:
September 26, 2022 at 4:32 pm

Does the average Italian care about what’s going on?
As long as they can drink their espresso & smoke a cigarillo for breakfast, they’re happy.

Soon, they not may be able to afford that even.

JC
JC
September 26, 2022 4:37 pm

No idea. That comment was related to that video and general direction it indicates the people want to travel.

Perhaps, but they’re just deer in headlights coming their way. I’m very pessimistic about this bint as I suspect she had no freaking idea what to do.

rickw
rickw
September 26, 2022 4:37 pm

It started with the push to get mums into the workforce, which the Liberal Party was fully on board with.

Little bloke cruised through 2 years of COVID crap thanks to mum, well ahead of where he needs to be. Some of his poor little classmates effectively had two years off, working mums, who knows if they will recover, not only two years missed, but many bad habits now entrenched.

To be fair to teachers, aside from the fact that most are communist Mongs, you’re pushing it up hill if 90% of the class turns up without basic discipline and etiquette.

We need to block the little blokes ears during parent teacher night. From his an elderly teacher, sounds like he’s a long missed blast from the 1950’s.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 26, 2022 4:39 pm

Sheer idiocy:

Acting Prime Minister Richard Marles has pointed to renewable energy as key to achieving reductions in electricity bills, after being grilled by the Coalition about when Labor will deliver on its promise to cut bills by $275.

Mr Marles said the number one priority for his government was reducing cost of living pressure.

“One of the real differences now, compared to when I first entered parliament in 2007, is that cheap energy in this country is renewable energy,” he said.

“The way in which we get energy prices down is improving our energy grid and having policy certainty, which allows people to invest in the renewable energy and have that renewable energy be able to be received by the grid.

“The problem is we have a lost decade when it comes to energy policy.”

Deputy Opposition Leader Sussan Ley sought to table a document detailing Labor’s Powering Australia policy, which detailed the $275 cut to electricity bills by 2025.

Labor did not grant leave for the tabling of the document, which is publicly available online.

Oz

Ed Case
Ed Case
September 26, 2022 4:39 pm

The Albanese Government is an even bigger joke than the Truss Government.
No way Voice can get up in a legit Vote, so either the Fix is in, or they’re planning on calling an early Election after the Referendum goes down, in hopes of getting a sympathy vote.
I’d say that’s not a bad plan, and you know what?
Murdoch will be right on board with it.

shatterzzz
September 26, 2022 4:40 pm

Indigenous Australians Minister Linda Burney said on Sunday that enshrining a Voice to Parliament in the constitution would have a tangible impact on the lives of Indigenous people.

Current poll @ mail online .. this’ll make Linda happy .. LOL

Will you vote for an Indigenous Voice to Parliament?
Yes
6%
9 votes
No
91%
126 votes
I don’t know yet
3%
4 votes

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 26, 2022 4:40 pm

The Italians are basically Greece, just 20 years later. Will end up a smoking ruin.

Makka
Makka
September 26, 2022 4:42 pm

Nasty follow-on from last week’s declines.

And it’s going down further. In this market , the correlation is 1.0 with the S&P. Until there is statistical evidence inflation, core CPE etc has topped AND very clear indications the Fed accepts that evidence AND subsequently communicates plausible intent to refrain from throwing hiking hand grenades I can’t see sentiment altering the index trajectory.

But gosh, when it does bottom out there will be some real pickings. Albeit in a different environment than we’ve see these last 2 decades I think.

Speedbox
September 26, 2022 4:43 pm

Elsewhere, Cats may have caught up on the news that Optus may be in for more hurt.

A class-action lawsuit could be filed against Optus on behalf of former and current customers by Slater and Gordon after a major hack caused the details of up to 9.8 million customers to be compromised.

The law firm was “assessing possible legal options for affected customers,” class actions senior associate Ben Zocco said despite Optus not yet confirming the circumstances that led to the breach.

“This is potentially the most serious privacy breach in Australian history, both in terms of the number of affected people and the nature of the information disclosed,” Mr Zocco said in a statement.

Those nice people at S&G can sniff out monster fee income potential at 1000 metres.

Ed Case
Ed Case
September 26, 2022 4:43 pm

It started with the push to get mums into the workforce, which the Liberal Party was fully on board with.

Yeah, because it’s a Liberal Party, the clue is in the name.
If you want a Conservative Party, start one up yourself.

calli
calli
September 26, 2022 4:45 pm

Off to the Dales today.

In other news, I picked up a headcold in the Zagreb laundromat. Idiotically sitting in a draught while watching the washing twirl around. Not Covid. It still eludes me.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 26, 2022 4:46 pm

Those nice people at S&G can sniff out monster fee income potential at 1000 metres.

Have their shares recovered? Got a fair bit of catching up to do. Most of their equity was transferred to the Poms who saw them coming. Beware solicitors WIP.

JC
JC
September 26, 2022 4:48 pm
H B Bear
H B Bear
September 26, 2022 4:50 pm

ASX:SGH Nope

Diogenes
Diogenes
September 26, 2022 4:57 pm

Some of his poor little classmates effectively had two years off, working mums, who knows if they will recover, not only two years missed, but many bad habits now entrenched.

I read in a union newsletter that some Mongistan schools got behavioural consultants in to assess their year 10 students. The first comment on many assessments was words to the effect of ” gosh your year 8s are big and immature”, referring to the year 10s.

Last year at my old school, when school came back after 2 terms in lockdown, no subject based teaching except for years 11&22 for 4 weeks while they had to teach “how to school”, ie attendance, uniforms, general behaviour, bringing the necessities etc. I would hate to what they would be like after 2 years.

Speedbox
September 26, 2022 5:02 pm

Makka says:
September 26, 2022 at 4:42 pm
But gosh, when it does bottom out there will be some real pickings. Albeit in a different environment than we’ve see these last 2 decades I think.

Oops. ASX down 121.2 (1.79%). But yes, you probably remember Feb/March 2020 when the covid thing initially scared the market witless – but weren’t there some bargains to be had. BHP @ $22; RIO @ $79; WES @ $30; ANZ @ $14, CBA @ $55!! just to name a few. I remember thinking “back up the truck, I’ll take as many as you’ve got”. Of course there were limits (I’m not Clive) but jeez it was a good opportunity.

Cassie of Sydney
September 26, 2022 5:15 pm

“Off to the Dales today.”

calli, don’t go to Leicester.

Johnny Rotten
September 26, 2022 5:38 pm

A kung fu student asks “Master, why does my ability not improve? I’m always defeated”. And the master, pensive and forever patient, answers “My dear pupil, have you seen the gulls flying by the setting sun, and their wings seeming like flames?” “Yes, my master, I have”. “And a waterfall, spilling mightily over the stones without taking anything out of its proper place?” “Yes, my master, I have witnessed it”. “And the moon, when it touches the calm water to reflect all its enormous beauty?” “Yes, my master, I have also seen this marvellous phenomenon”. “That is the problem. You keep watching all this shit instead of training”.

rickw
rickw
September 26, 2022 5:41 pm

Actor, activist and revered Aboriginal elder Uncle Jack Charles will be given a state funeral, the Victorian government has confirmed.

At the current rate of state funerals, munty is shoe in for one: Actor, activist, golfer, troll and doughnut connoisseur, Munty will be give a state funeral after choking on a jam doughnut….. no breathing hole.

Delta A
Delta A
September 26, 2022 5:46 pm

JCsays:
September 26, 2022 at 4:33 pm
Why are men happier than sheilas?

This is a great meme.

Young fellas hanging out with mates, being stupid, taking risks, having fun and acting like the larrikins that young fellas have always been. And best of all, they totally piss of the nannies and karens who would have them behave like debutantes.

Growing up with three older, adoring brothers, I was privy to much larrikinism: lighting farts, the weekly hike to The Bug-house for shenanigans, handing empty milkshake cartons to pedestrians during the Rundle Mall Cruise, the extras in the car boot at the drive in and our favourite… well, it’s hard to go past lighting farts.

No booze involved. No harm to anyone… oh, except for one guy who got a walloping from his mum for setting his pants on fire.

Just young men having fun with their mates. May it always continue.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 26, 2022 5:47 pm

Just young men having fun with their mates.

Toxic masculinity.

JC
JC
September 26, 2022 5:49 pm

I just figured out the last one – spin the bottle. The dwarf was always going to cop it. There was zero chance he wasn’t. 🙂

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
September 26, 2022 5:53 pm

The dwarf was always going to cop it

Probably already happened before but he had a short memory.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
September 26, 2022 5:54 pm

Hopefully she is the new PM. I haven’t heard a politician speak like this for 40 years or more. Bravo!

https://twitter.com/i/status/1574251105940377607

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
September 26, 2022 5:54 pm

My observations of village people-
Greeks: lazy and entitled, lots of effort into lobbying for subsidies and special representation
Italians: hedonistic- which is different from lazy- and loyal, saw all levels of government and regulation as being “on the take” and so worked to sidestep it and form interpersonal alliances.
Also big diff between wogs and dings, huge cash culture in Italy. V low levels of household debt, v large wads of cash in bikkie tins and under mattresses. I think it would help the average eyetie in thinking, austerity measures won’t really hurt this house, so let’s get Thatcherite after all

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 26, 2022 6:01 pm

My observations of village people-

…YMCA…

JC
JC
September 26, 2022 6:03 pm

Waly

Don’t over-egg the omelette with rotten eggs.

In this clip, Georgie reckons..

She’s a woman, a catholic, mother and an Italian woman. She reckons she not some anonymous identity at the mercy of financial speculators.

WTF?

Georgie isn’t Thatcher, Champ.

If you have difficulty with the language, read the subtitles as I can assure you they’re pretty accurate.

Johnny Rotten
September 26, 2022 6:05 pm

The preacher walked out to the church parking lot where he saw a group of boys surrounding a dog.

Concerned the boys were hurting the dog, he went over and asked “What are you doing with that dog?” One of the boys replied “This dog is just an old neighbourhood stray. We all want him, but only one of us can take him home. So we’ve decided that whichever one of us can tell the biggest lie will get to keep the dog”.

Of course, the preacher was taken aback. “You boys shouldn’t be having a contest telling lies!” he exclaimed.

He then launched into a ten-minute sermon against lying, beginning “Don’t you boys know it’s a sin to lie” and ending with “Why, when I was your age, I never told a lie”.

There was dead silence for about a minute.

Just as the preacher was beginning to think he’d gotten through to them, the smallest boy gave a deep sigh and said “All right, give him the dog”.

Ed Case
Ed Case
September 26, 2022 6:06 pm

Children are being killed: 8x increase in Excess Deaths among Children in Europe since COVID Vaccine roll-out according to Official EU Data …

JC
JC
September 26, 2022 6:09 pm

Head

Killed or dying? The two words don’t express the same thing. Killed, as in mass murdered?

Ed Case
Ed Case
September 26, 2022 6:10 pm

Dating site for the Unvaccinated.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 26, 2022 6:10 pm

Labor vows to clear veterans’ case backlog by end of next year

Ben Packham
FOREIGN AFFAIRS AND DEFENCE CORRESPONDENT
@bennpackham
2 hours ago September 26, 2022
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The Albanese government has agreed to sweeping changes to the veterans’ compensation system to tackle soaring suicide rates by former ADF personnel, vowing to simplify claims and rehabilitation processes and clear a 62,000 case backlog by the end of next year.

In its response to the interim report of the Defence and Veteran Suicide Royal Commission, the government has also granted new protections to ADF members and veterans to give evidence to the royal commission without breaching secrecy laws, and will force Defence and Veterans Affairs to provide more information to bereaved families.

Veterans’ Affairs Minister Matt Keogh apologised on behalf of the government to veterans and their families, saying there was no doubt the system had caused distress and led many veterans to commit suicide.

“It is devastating that Australia has lost more serving and former serving personnel to suicide over the last 20 years than through operations over the same period in Afghanistan and Iraq,” Mr Keogh told parliament.

“It is a great tragedy that the Australian government, successive Australian governments, have failed those who have served our nation.

“Governments have also failed the families of those people, families who have carried a heavy burden of their own through the pain and suffering they have experienced.”

He committed the government to the “simplification and harmonisation” of the veterans compensation and rehabilitation system, with extra funding to be considered “in the context of budget processes and fiscal constraints”.

Mr Keogh said too many veterans were waiting too long for their claims to be processed, and recruiting was already underway for 500 extra Department of Veterans Affairs’ staff promised by Labor before the election.

In its interim report, the royal commission called for urgent protections for serving and former ADF members who were being prevented from coming forward with information to the inquiry because of legal impediments to providing classified information, or sensitive personal details.

Mr Keogh said the government would legislate to provide broad protections for those providing information to royal commissions, and ensure those seeking to provide information to the veterans’ suicide inquiry could do so without breaching secrecy requirements in the Criminal Code.

He said communication by Defence and DVA with the families of those who suicided “left a lot to be desired”, vowing greater transparency.

“This has been raised by many families in their evidence to the royal commission,” Mr Keogh said.

“We must improve how Defence and DVA communicate with veterans and families, including in facilitating access to information about their loved ones.”

Mr Keogh said the government was committed to preventing veterans’ suiciding, but he emphasised not all veterans were “broken”.

“For the most part, veterans have equal or higher education than the general population, ex-serving personnel generally have higher weekly personal incomes, and are more likely to be employed,” he said.

“However, it is also the case that many veterans find the process of leaving the ADF and reintegrating into civilian society to be a significant and challenging life event, particularly for those who don’t make that transition by choice.

“While the transition process is improving, we must continue to work to improve understanding and knowledge of the process so people better understand what to expect and what is available for them when leaving the ADF.”

bespoke
bespoke
September 26, 2022 6:11 pm

Consumer slaves?

Ed Case
Ed Case
September 26, 2022 6:12 pm

They’re already Dead.
691% increase.
Draw your own conclusions, I can’t do your thinking for you.

m0nty
September 26, 2022 6:14 pm

The bit about consumerism from the Italian lass is interesting. Rather the sort of thing you would have read in Green Left Weekly not that long ago.

The conflation of anti-capitalism and herrenvolk populism is a bit of a con, though. Will this new government do anything through policy to attack consumerism? Or are they just empty words, and they will focus on upper class tax cuts like every other right wing party.

Razey
Razey
September 26, 2022 6:16 pm

Ed Casesays:
September 26, 2022 at 6:10 pm
Dating site for the Unvaccinated.

How do you prove you’re un-clot shotted?

Ed Case
Ed Case
September 26, 2022 6:16 pm

Labor won’t do anything except handwringing and blaming the Morrison Government.
No 1 reason?
There’s no votes in it, Diggers in general don’t vote Labor, never have, never will.
Officers, yeah, they vote Labor like their lives depended on it, but I suspect there’s no Claims backlog there.

m0nty
September 26, 2022 6:17 pm

She’s a woman, a catholic, mother and an Italian woman. She reckons she not some anonymous identity at the mercy of financial speculators.

WTF?

It always comes back to the Protocols.

JC
JC
September 26, 2022 6:19 pm

The bit about consumerism from the Italian lass is interesting. Rather the sort of thing you would have read in Green Left Weekly not that long ago.

Suit you, Fatboy. You vote greens afterall, so what’s not to like.

Ed Case
Ed Case
September 26, 2022 6:19 pm

That’s your problem, Razey, but here’s a guess:
If you don’t own a house, it wouldn’t matter if you could prove it.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 26, 2022 6:20 pm

Did Pauline Hanson reflect your opinion when she told Mehreen Faruqi to ‘piss off back to Pakistan’?
Monday, 26 September 2022

Michael Smith News. The Greens are moving a censure motion in the Senate. I want to know when the Senate will be censuring Lydia Thorpe.

JC
JC
September 26, 2022 6:21 pm

It always comes back to the Protocols.

How original. Left, right and centre, the MSM is pasting them as Far Right and Fascist, so you need to get to the Protocols, right? You big fat tub of lard.

Razey
Razey
September 26, 2022 6:23 pm

Ed Casesays:
September 26, 2022 at 6:19 pm
That’s your problem, Razey, but here’s a guess:
If you don’t own a house, it wouldn’t matter if you could prove it.

It’s a CIA honey pot.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 26, 2022 6:24 pm

m0ntysays:
September 26, 2022 at 6:17 pm
She’s a woman, a catholic, mother and an Italian woman. She reckons she not some anonymous identity at the mercy of financial speculators.

WTF?

It always comes back to the Protocols.

It’s time you dropped your obsession with the Jews. It might come as a shock to you, but not every financier is a Jew. Nor is every banker.

Your anti-Semitism is reaching grotesque levels.

m0nty
September 26, 2022 6:26 pm

When a politician attacks unnamed financial speculators for oppressing the white working man, it’s always a racist dog whistle.

cohenite
September 26, 2022 6:28 pm

Mark Dice using the recent events in canada with the freak teacher and the false tits to state the real cause of wokism and the left running rampant has been gutless, false conservatives who cave in every time a leftie freak does something certifiable and claims its normal:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGEfbwS2o5Q

rosie
rosie
September 26, 2022 6:28 pm

I always remember various small retailers I chatted to in Rome and Venice telling me how various government imposts took 75% of their income, hence cash was king.
Monty are you an expert on where the Italian tax burden falls as well as everything else in your expert portfolio?

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 26, 2022 6:28 pm

m0ntysays:
September 26, 2022 at 6:26 pm
When a politician attacks unnamed financial speculators for oppressing the white working man, it’s always a racist dog whistle.

If you can hear the “dog whistle”, m0nty-fa, then you are the dog.

Ed Case
Ed Case
September 26, 2022 6:29 pm

She’s on board with masks and Vaxing too.
Another fraud, the audience response was barely lukewarm

JC
JC
September 26, 2022 6:30 pm

m0nty says:
September 26, 2022 at 6:26 pm

When a politician attacks unnamed financial speculators for oppressing the white working man, it’s always a racist dog whistle.

Really? So demonrats attacking Wall Street means they’re really attacking Jews? Okay.

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