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Israel is not allowed to defeat its foes.If Israel could defeat its foes on its own it wouldn’t need a…
things have gone a bit quiet here. hello?
Me too Vicki, I hoped that he wasn’t in hospital
Emirates flights worldwide seriously disrupted due to flooding in Dubai Except the flights related to cloud seeding, and those carrying…
I served on a jury a few years back. Rape case, penile and digital. Once deliberations started, I had the chap down as guilty on both counts after 20mins. As did 3 others. Then it was a matter of giving the other jurors time and assistance to come to their own assessment. Two days later we advised the judge we were in agreement on one charge but were undecided on the other. The judge thanked us, then sent us back to refocus on the remaining charge. Two days later we delivered guilty verdicts on both.
Judge advised by giving additional time allows some jurors focus more on the remaining charge. It was an eye opener to see how people misinterpreted judges directions and missed evidence presented. Some people just were not equipped to readily process the amount of information presented and make a decision that would negatively impact another persons life. Not me, once I assessed the chap had planned and executed the rape I was happy to see the ahole go down and ultimately deported.
There might be a conflict of interest there …
https://www.courts.act.gov.au/supreme/coming-to-court/jurors
Public servants
Public servants should receive their normal salary whilst on jury duty. Your payment for jury service will include:
a travel and parking allowance for each day that you are required to attend Court; and
a travel and parking allowance for each day that you are required to attend Court;
a payment for attending Court; and/or
a daily payment for each day of service for those who serve on a jury.
Non-public servants
For private sector employees, other than casuals, your employer is required by the National Employment Standards to make up the difference between your jury payments and your normal basic pay for the first 10 days of jury service. It is wise to check with your Human Resources department to find out what arrangements are in place for people on jury service.
Ya left out Napoleonic wars, Eyrie.
Seriously how far back do you go to settle a grievance?
Most seem to be a long period of tensions and provocations leading to going kinetic. It may be perfectly sensible to be the first to go kinetic.
I think the very basic principle of “the one who shoots first is the asshole” is a reasonable observation.
Though of course economic meddling, sabotage etc as you point out can be factors as well.
It would appear Dutton’s handed her a bottle of scotch and the Webley, and invited her to adjourn to the library.
Ah yes. Ayatollah Brandis. His swansong was defending the hijab in the Senate by beating up on Pauline Hanson.
Classical liberal.
It’s Europe. Grievances are around since the dawn of time.
Seriously how far back do you go to settle a grievance?
Just pointing out that “who started it” is a facile and silly question in many cases.
Gruinaid going after the mad Katter.
This catches the eye though.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/oct/24/bob-katter-defends-claiming-more-comcar-expenses-than-any-other-minister-or-backbench-mp
That was more than any other politician besides Scott Morrison, prime minister until the May election, and Anthony Albanese, the opposition leader then prime minister.
Morrison claimed $115,340 in Comcar in that quarter, while Albanese claimed $111,807. Both leaders regularly claimed Comcar bills of several thousand dollars per day.
I think the very basic principle of “the one who shoots first is the asshole” is a reasonable observation.
So in 1967 the Israelis were the assholes?
No own goal.
The fix is in.
The majority Liars/Greens on the committee will find “young and naive, good intentions, no harm done”.
Any further enquiry will be met with “Been done. Old news.”
Fair Shake @2.08pm:
+1
Eventually, it was fully delivered. Nazi Germany was destroyed.
There were real concerns with the Commie menace.
Oh Lord, Israel short first because it was going to be attacked and this counts as the West starting that war? Fuck off.
No, we should ask if you’re sanity is question.
Oh, he’s using the word “kinetic”. It means he’s really., really smart.
I’ve lost count of how many thugs I’ve seen let off from near hospitalising someone for fun, coz Hizzonna accepted the “provocation” defence.
BOM wants permission to set its hair on fire and run round the room screaming…
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/oct/24/law-governing-bureau-of-meteorology-must-change-to-reflect-climate-crisis-says-former-chief
former chief executive of the Bureau of Meteorology says the 67-year-old law that underpins Australia’s weather agency needs to be updated to bring it in line with the modern-day climate crisis.
Dr Rob Vertessy, who left the bureau in 2016 after five years in charge, said the Meteorology Act 1955 should be revised to give the bureau “a broader environmental intelligence remit”.
“I do think [the act] is of an age that it isn’t really relevant to the challenges of a planetary crisis,” Vertessy said.
“The public interest would be better served if we mandated an agency to have a broader remit. Given what the country is facing, there should be more of an emphasis on that.”
….
The Meteorology Act established the role of the bureau and its director but it predates concerns about climate change.
“It’s uncontentious that weather and forecasts is core business,” Vertessy said. “But there’s less formal direction when it comes to climate. When it comes to climate change, a mandate for being the voice for it is not reflected in the 1955 act.”
Instead, Vertessy said, governments, ministers and the bureau’s director of meteorology (which is the title of the chief executive) “have had degrees of discretion about whether [the bureau] is in that game or not”.
Vertessy said there had “probably been a greater appetite for senior officials to hold forth on climate change with progressive governments than conservative ones”.
“My sense is that the current government is more welcoming of expert opinion on climate change matters as it seeks to build community support for policy action,” he said.
Another agency to be skin suited into a capering ‘progressive” clownshow.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/there-too-much-debt-world-so-they-must-inflate-it-away-which-they-will-thats-only-thing-you
Been in this rodeo before. Too much debt so effectively steal from the people by inflating it away. Anyone who thinks this is transient inflation is whistling past the graveyard.
No, because Israel was going to be attacked and the smart thing to do was to get in first.
Ukraine had no intention of attacking Russia, you clown.
The Senate Committee is eight persons: four ALP and one Green.
Her sins shall be washed whiter than snow…
Wow!
I did similar fact-check on Russian technology. On a job in eastern Iran, 1991, we were shown a deep diamond drilling program that had holes drilled at 60.0 degrees, to the bottom. What kind of surveys? Russian downhole loggers.
Hm. I never heard of an election with record numbers of votes for a candidate not worth spit, and I never heard of a surveyed hole turning out to be drilled at exactly 60.0 degrees.
On my next trip I took a box of test tubes, a capped brass holding pipe, and a bottle of hydrofluoric acid. In hand luggage.
Reaching the snowy heights
“Mister Chris, this method of downhole surveying, it is very… old?”
“Mr Mohammed J, I think the word you are looking for is ‘primitive’.
Carefully sighting the angle etched by the meniscus in the test tube, and reading the correction chart for surface tension, let’s see… sixty point zero degrees!
So the Russian loggers were right. How did the Iranian drillers drill holes through alternating magnetite and felsic intrusives, and get them straight to under a tenth of a degree EVERY TIME? In little brick huts to keep the snow off their necks and the wind off their ears?
The answer is, they poured little concrete footings and laid bricks on them for each location, then mounted the Deutz 3-cylinder motor and drill rig on those handbuilt footings, reassembled the rig piece by piece for each location.
Top quality result, that I have never seen from an Australian contractor.
Eventually, it was fully delivered. Nazi Germany was destroyed.
Poland wound up under the communist boot heel for 45 years. Great win.
50% power price increases on the way? In a formerly energy rich country?
Politicians have fucked it up badly. They should be rewarded with civil disobedience big time.
No, because Israel was going to be attacked and the smart thing to do was to get in first.
Precisely my point.
The Ukes were trying to join NATO and if you care to look at a map, Ukraine is a giant dagger aimed into Russia. The Ukes were also shelling ethnic Russians in the Donbass for 8 years, killing 14,000 of them.
Plenty of poking the Bear. The Ukes fucked around and found out. No sympathy.
Yes, Poland should never have been allowed to go to the Stalin. That has nothing to do with the benefit of Nazi Germany and the Axis being destroyed. One mistake at the end of the WW2 doesn’t mean the rest of the war was wrong and therefore the end result being for nought. Shut up for FFS as you’re a clown.
If all the ABC and their little pets in Parliament were laid by bikies end to end along the bottom of the Marianas trench it would be a darn good start.
Dunno.
I do think when the jury sent the note this morning the JURDGE should have taken the opportunity to reiterate what “reasonable doubt” means in a criminal law context.
Because Russia was sitting there, twiddling its thumbs. The borders were set for a reason in 1991. It wasn’t random. Putin gains power and wants it back.
Dr F at 2:22.
Correct.
The lettuce leaf has been soaking since Friday.
Be prepared for the lightest of slaps, possibly accompanied by a commendation for her “passionate* support of the brudders”.
…
* Deliberate
Are you sure about that? I’ve seen different people argue that things were building to ahead in Donbas and Crimea, for instance.
From what the judge said, it sounded like he was saying “find reasonable doubt” either way.
That’s not their job. Their job is to find reasonable doubt in Britnah’s claim. That’s it.
They’re not there to find reasonable doubt in Bruce’s claims.
How would Ukraine have won any war unaided by the West if it was known Ukraine attacked Russia.
H/T internet.
“Ukraine is a giant dagger” LOL. Their very existence is an affront! How dare they even live?
Things are coming to a head in Kherson thankfully, so this little period where tankies can pretend that they might not lose will come to an end soon.
lol, Gabor. I did think of suggesting an innovative vibrating instrument to put under one’s pillow, but I thought better of it. I might have been accused of making salacious suggestions while having in mind only wakening good vibrations. This whole field of vibrative endeavour is intrinsically open to misconstruction. In fact, the more you say, the worse it sounds! I’ll stop now. 🙂
Re the mid-terms. The Trafalgar Group Polling guy on Fox the other nite was asked who is going to win in Pensylvannia (which is known to have a very flexible electoral system) in the Senate race and his reply was I think Dr. Oz (repub) will .. um .. get the most votes.
Hairy cracked up at this and explained it to me.
This is an ironic a reference to the reality (repub will get the most votes) vs the reality (as seen in 2020) – the person getting the most votes may not necessarily win.
Btw, polling today has firmed: Dr. Oz looks like getting the most votes. But even so, will he win?
And so fucking what if they were joining NATO? China should attack Australia for joining AUKUS? China would be fully justified, would it, Hallward?
A young couple bought a parrot, but quickly discovered that he could cause them a lot of embarrassment.
Every time someone came to the house, he would tell them what the couple had been up to, particularly what went on in the evenings on the sofa.
“That’s it, I’ve had enough” said the man “from now on, you’ll be covered up early in the evening so you can’t see what’s going on. Otherwise, it’s the zoo for you”.
A few days later, the couple decided to go away for a week’s holiday so they spent the evening packing and of course filled the suitcase to overflowing.
“I’ve got an idea” said the man. “I’ll get on top, press down as much as I can and you can tell me what’s happening”. But the case wouldn’t close.
“This is no good” remarked the wife. “Here, let me have a go, I’ll get on top and we’ll see if it’s any better”.
Still, they couldn’t get the case to close, so the man said “Let’s both get on top, bounce up and down and maybe that’ll work”.
Suddenly the parrot pulled off the cage cover and squawked “I’ll take my chances at the zoo, but this I’ve just got to see?”
then no-one would be the least bit surprised.
Ukraine would have still been supported by the West if it launched a renewed offensive in the Donbas, as it had been for the eight years previous. Crimea, too, is still a part of Ukraine according to Ukraine and the West, so it isn’t clear whether the West would have moved to stop UKR had it successful recaptured the Donbas.
Study history, study history. In history lies all the secrets of statecraft.
– Winston Churchill
I struggle to see why/how the Ukies would kick a proper war off with Vlads mob before they were signed up to NATO or a similar agreement.
The “west” supporting them after Vlads invasion is no guarantee they would have had the same backing if they had shot first
Anyway its the definition of far away and not our problem.
So Rishi Sunak looks like being the new British PM, and Boris has decided he can’t risk his numbers in a head on. Apparently they spent an hour together first, discussing ‘Party issues’.
I still think Boris would have been a better choice, a return to what people voted for after a period of wobbles, not some smooth backroom manipulator who dislikes Brexit. Boris could revitalise Britain with a new set of polices geared to what voters want, which is less climate madness and more base-load energy bringing prices down, and fewer people crowding into Britain from elsewhere.
You know this how?
Dover
The borders that were set in 1991 – are they completely meaningless to you?
Tell me, monty, what do you think is happening in Kherson right now? Everything that I’m seeing indicates that UKR have made no headway since RUS gave a little ground and solidified its front three weeks ago. Since then, UKR have been unable to penetrate anywhere on that front and suffered considerable losses.
Here we go…
https://thefederalist.com/2022/10/21/the-doj-is-hiding-information-about-bidens-attempts-to-interfere-in-u-s-elections/
This fella needs to be the new british PM:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Rees-Mogg#Environment_and_climate_change
Love it! The Left call him “Honourable Member for the 18th century”
Being serious about fire in aged care homes – the matter is very serious.
The sort of small individual vibrating alarms they have for table service might work.
Also, quick release locks on all doors would be worth considering; cost wouldn’t be great.
Plus of course a good and working sprinkler system (becoming mandatory after the disaster when a lunatic nurse set one care home on fire and there were no sprinklers and many deaths).
And decent human organisation to ensure that everyone knows what to do to help others and to help themselves as well.
And the paying public are likely well to the centre of the SJWs – I for one gave up on AFL after their hypocrisy in promoting ‘inclusion’ by hosting divisive ‘special interest’ rounds.
And in other random news, a colleague at work (a climate alarmist, McClownan lover, but actually quite a nice guy) has had a rant about the dangerous practices of fracking.
I informed him fracking began around 1906 and in all that time there’s been no, or very little, evidence of it being a dangerous process and is actually widely supported by the geologists at the WA Govt’ Dept of Mines.
He went quiet.
The Russians have admitted openly that they are staging a withdrawal. First it was civilians, then civilians with some soldiers who changed clothes, and it will increasingly just be soldiers. Except for those 2000 new conscripts who drew the short straw to be the relief on the front line. Pity those poor buggers, they are going to have a rough time.
I’m tipping ‘free stuff’ all round, paid for by debt and the inflation tax…
Because US/NATO were training and arming UKR since 2014/5.
What has this got to do with anything I said just before? The borders in 2022 were already being contested by UKR and RUS (and the local militias) in the Donbas and Crimea. To get either back UKR has to attack the hostile forces in both regions.
Taxation is of course now completely un-necessary (if you can fund *part* of the budget with borrowing/printing, you can fund *all* of it that way). Its only done for punitive and behaviour nudge reasons now.
I’ve already emailed him to let him know my preferences in beer.
Dover:
Ukraine’s support was defensive. The borders were set in 1991. And so what if a sovereign nation is assisted to defend itself? You seem to think that’s like a bad thing?
Reports coming in now that there are outside chances on New York State and Washington State.
Polling there now showing a Dem win as marginal.
From various readings, and Fox intensives here, and talking around, Hairy predicts 53 Repub vs 47 Dems in the Senate and 50-60 Repub majority in the House.
Just in case anyone is running a book on this later, take this as my bid.
He thinks that’s a conservative prediction so it’ll do me.
Exciting times ahead when we land in Florida next Saturday.
Areff, keep adding perspectives from where you are too.
No, they have evacuated civilians but bolstered, if anything, their military forces on the north bank, evidenced by the fact that the front has been stable for three weeks even under attack.
Yep, but NOT because the mood of the electorate can’t be felt, rather because the extent of the fraud cannot be judged.
I was pretty sure Trump would win last time ( I remain convinced he did) but I didnt forecast the extent of the fraud, and the blatant nature of it. I will probably never bet on elections again now*, because of that.
* made $25k profit the first time, gave $10k back the second.
I think you may be wrong there. The ACT requires unanimity on jury verdicts.
https://www.courts.act.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0011/967646/Jury-Handbook-12-June-2019.pdf
JCsays:
October 24, 2022 at 2:18 pm
1939 Britain and France declare war on Germany over a guarantee to Poland that they had no means to deliver on.
Eventually, it was fully delivered. Nazi Germany was destroyed.
But Poland remained under foreign totalitarian domination until 1989.
Jesus Munt, what on Earth do you read? Wrongologist Weekly? I guess Records Weekly, a “riveting” read, doesn’t cover this stuff either.
The “new civilian conscripts” are going to Eastern Russia so that real soliders there can be freed up to move to the West.
It’s not hard keeping up Munt. But… I guess you still stupidly contend Trump appointed Reinhart (to which you’ve still never responded or apologised).
““Ukraine is a giant dagger” LOL. Their very existence is an affront! How dare they even live?”
The US had such a big dummy-spit about nukes in Cuba, we nearly had a nuclear war.
Ukraine has a land border with Russia, so it’s closer to Russia than Cuba is to the US.
Part of the deal that gave the Uke’s independence was that they wouldn’t join NATO.
With both the EU and the US suggesting the Ukraine should ask to join NATO, and people being killed by the thousands in the Donbas, how long should Vlad have waited? He complained for years about these things and was ignored. At some point, he has to show he’s serious about what a “red line” is, or be laughed at and lose everything. Vlad backed off while DJT was Prez because the deep state scaled back their efforts – but as soon as Creepy Joe got in and it was “back to normal”, he got pissed off. Funny that. Also funny that if everyone else had kept their beak out of it, it would have been over months ago.
None of this is to say that Vlad is the good guy, but with everyone seeming to ignore all his complaints for so many years, it doesn’t really surprise me that he finally reacted the way he did. We (the west) continued to treat Russia as a pariah, even after the dismantled communism – imagine how much different the world might be if we had courted Russia instead if China these last 20-30 years.
It seemed unlikely to me that a non carrier capable aircraft would wear the weight/complexity of a ‘just in case’ tailhook, so I did some searching on the topic and it turns out I was wrong – they do have one.
Tucker Carlson: This is shocking
Limousine liberal with hoody.
Of course, I felt this hopeful in 2020 too, only to see ballots trundled in at the last minute to snatch the day away. I am sure that there is a lot of ‘fortifying’ going on this time too.
One loudmouth at the bar was telling a group including women about the time he managed to shake hands with ‘Trump’ and give his hand a trick shock. He looked for appreciation along the bar and got mild appreciation of his self-awarding cleverness but ended his swoop looking at me for his final accolade.
I gave him my frostiest and most we are not amused stare.
Quite took the wind out of his mouthy sails. He had it coming.
Key points from cross examination of Brittany Higgins
news.com.au – October 19, 2022
One line of questioning over Brittany Higgins’ underwear on the night of her alleged rape prompted the judge to intervene.
Scroll down to second last pic in the above article for:
Brittany Higgins pictured with Scott Morrison wearing the white dress she also wore on the night of the alleged incident.
100% agree with what Kneel – well done.
I will add that the Biden Crime Syndicate also had something to do with what’s going on.
**with what Kneel said**
Things are coming to a head in Kherson thankfully, so this little period where tankies can pretend that they might not lose will come to an end soon.
ROFLMAO. Field Marshal m0nty-fa, VC and 10 Bars, Laureate of the Staff College, Leader of Leaders from thousands of kilometres away, has checked the maps, and decided on the outcome.
With vast relief, the Field Marshal has decided that there is no need for him to proceed to the battlefield to intervene personally. Instead, he will holiday in Malmo.
Enything but 4x
This Sanibel Causeway situation is pretty amazing.
Lizzie
Boris could revitalise Britain with a new set of polices geared to what voters want, which is less climate madness and more base-load energy bringing prices down, and fewer people crowding into Britain from elsewhere.
If only, both in Britain and here.
There are two different concepts at play here:-
.1 “Only a unanimous vote by jurors will be acceptable for a conclusive verdict either way.”; or
.2 “You must stay in the jury room until you reach a unanimous verdict”.
Air Farces use mobile braking gadgets for approach/departure end engagements.
Although honking great brake drums on trucks lack the engineering elegance of telegraph pole sized hydraulic rams and reaved snatch blocks.
Re the suggestion back thread that Gina R. could buy up No Idea and the Australian Women’s Weakly instead of assisting Quadrant- yes, finding ways to change Australian women’s woefully malleable and impressionistic leftist views of politics would be great, and more political diversity in the content of women’s mags would definitely help. However, this would cost many millions.
Throwing a spare $50K at Quadrant would make all the difference to keeping up their good work and would be peanuts in comparison. Spare change, but a welcome signal in tough magazine times.
Better get your skates on if you’re holidaying in Malmo. Winter not far away.
How obvious does it need to be?
WEF decides who is PM of Britain.
As they do the President of the USA.
As they will the next election unless people in the States make it a number one priority to stop the fraud as best they can.
Last Chance.
The old saying that you can vote yourselve into socialism but have to shoot your way out, still stands.
Even if in reality they didn’t vote for globalist tyranny.
I’ve been assuming it meant unanimity required to decide on guilty. Does it also mean they have to be unanimous on not guilty?
Is it possible the jury mistakenly believe it has to be 12-0 whichever way they decide?
Off you go then, champ.
You’ve talked about it a lot.
“Kneelsays:
October 24, 2022 at 3:35 pm”
A very good comment. Thanks Kneel.
Boris isn’t going after the job.
Get ready for the coming ‘dangerous storm,’ Xi Jinping: Chang
fox
test
It is of concern that a number of Cats are in thrall to Big Iodine.
Any forecasts/tips on Chumbers budget
Resources “windfall profit tax”
Dressed up as saving de carbins.
…..
I’m tipping ‘free stuff’ all round, paid for by debt and the inflation tax…
I’ve already emailed him to let him know my preferences in beer.
Good news: He accepted your proposal.
bad news: Its all XXXX lite beer.
And yes XXXX lite beer exists.
I thought the sole saving grace of XXXX was it numbed your taste buds quickly.
Lizzie.
I’d be interested to know why he didn’t do that last time around.
Boris is not and nor has ever been conservative.
“And so fucking what if they were joining NATO?”
Read Russian history – they’ve been invaded by people who said “we won’t attack you” many, many times. It cost them 00,000’s of lives to defend their own soil, and more than once. Are they a bit paranoid? Maybe. But they have good reason to be – they only peace they have known is when they are strong, militarily.
Meanwhile, NATO – which was created to defend against the USSR – continues, even decades after the “threat” of the USSR was well gone. Why?
Russia is “bad”. Again, why?
We didn’t offer trade deals with them, we didn’t tie them economically to us. Again, why? Such deals would have made much more sense than those same deals made with China!
Russia is worried about Ukraine joining NATO, and you say “So what?”, yet when small Pacific nations have a deal with China, you think it’s bad and we should so something about it. How would we react if those deals with China started spreading and Papua New Guinea signed one? Feeling worried then?
Again, I’m not excusing what Russia did, I’m just pointing out that we had plenty of warning about them being worried and we didn’t just ignore that, we made it worse. We did everything completely wrong when dealing with them, and then wonder why they finally said “enough”?
Grow the fuck up – the west caused this, like it or not. And for petty politics at that. We had plenty of chances to fix it, but our fearless leaders decided it was better to have an enemy than a friend. The result of backing someone into a corner like we did with Russia was completely predictable, but we did it anyway, and then acted all surprised. FMD. You want to play this game with the country that has the most nuclear weapons of any country in the world? A country that given it’s history is paranoid about being invaded? Are you fucking insane?
yes – that’s my understanding for guilty or aquital in some states in Aus, including the ACT.
https://www.parliament.act.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0007/379627/LA_Verdicts.pdf
See Sec 2.1
As per. Sancho’s comment above, they can disagree and reach ‘no verdict’, which leads to a retrial.
Kneel, that is a load of old cobblers. Yes, Ukraine agreed not to join NATO. Ah, but Russia agreed to respect Ukraine’s borders. How did the latter of those agreements go? Whose fault was it that thousands were dying in the Donbas? What does that imply for the status of the agreements?
Putin can not complain about Ukraine’s adherence to agreements when he has pissed on every one he has signed, from even before he signed it. He argues in bad faith, and doesn’t bother hiding it. Only the foolish and gullible would trust a word he says.
Increase in hung juries raises stress
First published October 27 2012 – Updated April 18 2018
Dover 12.32 pm
Russia moving closer to Turkey and Iran.
What about Groergia and Amenia – what happens to these countries.
What is the latest on the Armenia and Azjerbjan war?
Is Bird back yet?
Why not?
We have a coterie of thread despoilers, so why not Graham?
Bruce of Newcastlesays:
These creatures are evil.
Well, Monet was an antisemite.
We have a coterie of thread despoilers,
Names, please.
so why not Graham?
It’s Graeme, he was spoofing the site’s ninnies, Sinc’s likely still laughing.
Jury is done for the day. Back at 10am again tomorrow…
Just bought some Colesworths biscuits as a poor substitute for some (rather more expensive) Western Suburbs artisanal ANZACs. The styrofoam tray has disappeared in favour of a paper one but the transparent plastic lid doesn’t look like it is going anywhere. I suspect there would be some interesting meetings between the visual merchandising guys and the ESG crew.
Monty.
Pretend you are a Russian despot.
The chap you had installed next door (by hook or by crook) as a reliable little satrap has just been tipped out by a “colour revolution” which is widely suspected, rightly or wrongly (probably wrongly, because nearly everything the CIA does is a debacle) of being orcestrated by the “west”.
They also make moves to join Nato.
On a scale of “I dont care” to “declare war” how comfortable are you with assurances its not aimed at you/ your regime?
Even the gruinaid was calling it just that 17 years ago.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/nov/26/ukraine.usa
Russian election meddling….
But while the gains of the orange-bedecked “chestnut revolution” are Ukraine’s, the campaign is an American creation, a sophisticated and brilliantly conceived exercise in western branding and mass marketing that, in four countries in four years, has been used to try to salvage rigged elections and topple unsavoury regimes.
Funded and organised by the US government, deploying US consultancies, pollsters, diplomats, the two big American parties and US non-government organisations, the campaign was first used in Europe in Belgrade in 2000 to beat Slobodan Milosevic at the ballot box.
Richard Miles, the US ambassador in Belgrade, played a key role. And by last year, as US ambassador in Tbilisi, he repeated the trick in Georgia, coaching Mikhail Saakashvili in how to bring down Eduard Shevardnadze.
Ten months after the success in Belgrade, the US ambassador in Minsk, Michael Kozak, a veteran of similar operations in central America, notably in Nicaragua, organised a near identical campaign to try to defeat the Belarus hardman, Alexander Lukashenko.
…
Care to denounce the gruinaid for anti-Semitism??
The Democratic party’s National Democratic Institute, the Republican party’s International Republican Institute, the US state department and USAid are the main agencies involved in these grassroots campaigns as well as the Freedom House NGO and billionaire George Soros’s open society institute.
None of which justifies Vlads attack, but it does set the scene a little more fully.
A paranoid despot sees his allies stripped away one by one…
Jebus. That would have been a good one to miss.
With a jury that “works” from 10am to 4pm, they MUST BE PUBLIC SERVANTS!!!
So, another day without a verdict?
seems to me that the only answer can be ‘not guilty’ now – if it took them 3+ days to decide there is no ‘reasonable doubt’, then there is, no?
artisanal
Ahh…I do miss the Infidel Tiger King.
Bintang Zero is worse – ask me how I know…
It’s different. They have nukes.
The Iranians are weighing in.
Iran Is Conducting “Massive” Military Drills On The Azerbaijan Border (23 Oct)
The Azeris want a land route to their enclave west of Armenia, and the Iranians don’t want them to have that. I suspect a bit of Sunni-Shia dislike going on also. The Sunni Turks have been assisting the Azeris too. All very usual for the area, and clearly encouraged by the Z war: while the cat is busy the rats say “now’s our chance!”
Also it’s a useful squirrel for the Iranian regime, who have their own problems right now.
Is it possible the jury mistakenly believe it has to be 12-0 whichever way they decide?
Use your noggin.
If 11 people say Not Guilty and one is holding out for Guilty, then it’s obvious the guy is a nut, so the Foreman goes to see the Judge and the idiot is tipped out and it’s 11-0.
In this particular case, there’s no way in the world you’re going to get 11 people saying that.
If you are a despot, a little paranoia is excusable.
I remember a more peaceful time a couple of years back.
I wonder what changed.
I probably passed him in Subi. We’ll never know.
seems to me that the only answer can be ‘not guilty’ now – if it took them 3+ days to decide there is no ‘reasonable doubt’, then there is, no?
Wishful thinking.
There’s a ringer in there holding out for Not Guilty, it happened in the Bjelke-Petersen Case too, the holdout was Jury Foreman.
no – they have to unanimously agree there’s reasonable doubt.
(How anyone can think there isn’t is beyond me – but we’re talking Canberra bubble here).
Ted Cruz is the zodiac killer.
As predictable as the sun rising, their ABC running the line that mean Gina somehow decided who or when the company logo was worn and that she punished an indigenous player by her spiteful withdrawal of sponsorship.
Nasty petty little liars playing school girl games in the media. Shameful stuff.
I know predictions can go horribly wrong but I wouldn’t be surprised if Chumbers budget has a sneaky additional import tax on petrol and diesel vehicles… perhaps other imported goods too.
(For the sake of the planet)
You lot keep doing this.
[massive screed of Putin apologia] … now none of that gives Putin the right to do what he did, but…
It’s quite comical. At least you feel enough shame to say it, even if you blunder blithely by the statement that invalidates the rest of your argument.
Herman Munster was unavailable for comment.
This article discusses what my sources are suggesting – that the principle goal of the Russians so far is to destroy Ukrainian combat power, not occupy territory.
https://www.algora.com/Algora_blog/2022/10/23/osint-investigators-name-real-losses-of-ukraines-army
at 200-400,000 killed, it suggests they are well on the way to their goal, and that the coming Russian winter offensive will make real headway.
Who cares? Netball Australia now have $0 where last week they had $15,000,000.
Slagging off the one who has the $15,000,000 sure ain’t going to make it go to the one who has $0.
Reality is a bummer like that.
True BoN
Summed up – bitches get stitches.
given the ‘presumption of innocence’, if the jury cant find him guilty, he should be found not guilty – would they really try him again if this jury is hung?
ALPB showing why they only outrate Channel 10. They really should be thought of as a niche broadcaster for retired schoolteachers.
Netball is suffering from the delusion that many people want to watch and pay money for it.
As a comparison (stolen from reddit):
Suncorp super netball Total Broadcast Revenue from Fox is $7 million per annum
Total player payments are $6.5 million – 93% of revenue.
NRL total broadcast revenue for 2023 is $400 million per annum
team salary cap projected $10.5m x 17 (new Redcliffe team) = $178.50m in total player payments= 45 per cent of TBR.
Are you kidding me? China is a hostile and aggressively spoken power that wants to control the Pacific. You’re equating China with Australia in relation to these Pacific countries.
Are you fucking crazy or just behaving in the same old way the left used in equating the Soviet Union with the West.
Yeah, the girl with the short skirt and revealing top made him rape her. It’s her fault.
Putin wants to reestablish the old Soviet Union. It’s not going to happen.
So were the Romans, and what did they ever do for us?
(For disclaimatory purposes, I do observe some Hebrew practices daily)
Sounds like player capture is going to be an issue going forward. Time for a conversation.
“You lot keep doing this.
[massive screed of Putin apologia] … now none of that gives Putin the right to do what he did, but…
It’s quite comical. At least you feel enough shame to say it, even if you blunder blithely by the statement that invalidates the rest of your argument.”
Hey fat fascist fuckwit, maybe Putin has “legitimate grievances”?
None of which justifies Vlads attack
You lot keep doing this.
In your lard filled noggin only.
None of the above justifies starting a shooting war.
Its and attempt (beyond Vlad man bad) to see why Russia has decided to start shooting instead of attempting its own meddling to even up the score in Ukraine.
It could be as simple as “old man in a hurry” if Vlad is feeling old/sick.
Or it could be the worst case scenario, Vlad and Xi using a war to run down the “wests” military stocks and appetite for war before Xi decides its time to grab Taiwan.
In which case an enormous number of smaller ‘bush wars” erupt, not least Iran/Israel.
What’s happening is the same thing that happened when Labor won in 2007.
Gillard as Education Minister ceased funding any Institution with any connection to the Liberal Party whatsoever.
Something named for John Carrick lost all it’s funding overnight.
Rinehart is a National Party donor, so they’re giving her a taste of how nasty it can get for her.
The Aboriginal Netballer?
She’s been stooged up and used up.
Labor Politics 101.
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/the-covid-vaccines-adversely-effect
Steve Kirsch publishes evidence of massive infertility signal after covid vax.
‘Fuck off’ money is not the same as ‘you and your money can fuck off’
Discuss….
Alas, common to many womens sports. The men are bad enough. Live sport is the only thing keeping many “entertainment” channels afloat.
Kneel:
That’s my point.
The Democrats look like getting the Pinata Supreme – no anchovies, but there’s no sense of urgency about getting out of Dodge, or anything remotely like it.
That makes me quite uneasy.
H/T internet.
Why is Father Bob constantly complaining on twitter that he doesn’t have a home because he’s been kicked out of the Parish?
Was he excommunicated? Anyone know the story? (grifters need not apply)
Lang Hancock came out with some loony stuff.
Mining with Hydrogen Bombs is my all time favourite from The Langster.
Sprinkling Crocidolite on his Cornflakes and eating it [to prove that Asbestos was harmless] wasn’t so funny when he died of arse cancer.
Arse cancer has a bad dose of Ed-Mong.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lang_Hancock#:~:text=Death%20and%20inquest,-In%20March%201992&text=An%20autopsy%20showed%20that%20he,had%20unnaturally%20hastened%20his%20death.
Death and inquest
An autopsy showed that he had died of arteriosclerotic heart disease and police investigation revealed no evidence to contradict that.
I guess, if the Bombers can kick out a CEO based on incompatibility of beliefs, the RCC can kick Bob?
They’re entitled to reach a consensus on what Reasonable Doubt means to them..
Iranians Fighting with Russians – This is Not a Test
From Armstrong Economics –
“Reports first circulated that Iranian soldiers were training Russians to operate drones after numerous reports of technical failures. Both Tehran and Moscow denied the allegations, but the writing was on the wall. Now, there are reports of at least ten Iranians dying from Ukrainian air strikes.
Some ask whether it would be safer for Russian soldiers to train in Iran, but they’re missing the point. The “training” is no different than fighting alongside Russian troops. Over 20 Iranian instructors have been spotted in Crimea and Kherson Oblast.
“The Russians took Iranian instructors to the territory of the temporarily occupied Kherson Region and Crimea to launch Shahed-136 kamikaze drones,” the Ukrainian Nation Resistance Center claimed. “They teach the Russians how to use kamikaze drones, and directly monitor the launch of drones on Ukrainian civilian targets, including strikes on Mykolaiv and Odesa.”
This open door is an invitation for foreign troops to fight alongside Ukraine or Russia under the premise of training. It matters not who is holding the controls as the training is taking place in an active warzone. Ukraine is already asking foreign nations to begin “testing” their military defenses on their soil, pointed at the Russians. “Today hundreds of Iranian drones are undergoing ‘test runs’ on our land, killing civilians,” the Defense Ministry wrote on Twitter. “These drones were not intended for use against Ukraine. To have a strategic advantage over its enemy, Israel should conduct a ‘test run’ of its air defenses Ukraine is the best testing ground.”
Iran could turn around and declare this an act of war or use this as an excuse to fuel the flames. If someone from the West or an Asian ally were training Ukrainian forces in a warzone, their individual government would certainly escalate the situation if Russians killed their soldiers. Iranians are already on the ground fighting alongside Russians, paving the way for other nations to join the fighting on the frontlines.”
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/war/iranians-fighting-with-russians-this-is-not-a-test/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS
The Authorities Notified Me I Can’t Use My Woodstove While Off Grid Living In A Tiny House
Grigs, you’re funny. No man. Like reeeeal funny.
Hancock was such a loon that his family became the richest in Australia.
And you, a troll.
So, who is the bigger loon?
That means no doctor was prepared to sign the certificate
All that means is that he wasn’t poisoned.
Feel free to eat some Asbestos to prove me wrong, CornHolio.
Otherwise, it’s off to the Duelling Thread for us.
How surprising!
Portland mayor admits that squalor and crime have turned the city into a ‘vortex of misery’ – and announces new plan to BAN unsanctioned homeless encampments plaguing local streets
Daily Mail
You can’t come out of the closet fast enough.
That statement is an old observation based on history.
Based on fact.
No one has been talking about shooting our way out……yet.
But with fuckwits like you as citizens of this once fine nation, it will probably have to come to that.
But you are obviously paranoid and hysterical with fear everytime somebody states the bleeding obvious.
I’d be sure you are in transition except you have to be a man first.
You get the impression he would have enjoyed a struth gig. Would probably have to leave the Asian wife outside though.
I don’t know Lysander, a while back he said he had ptsd relating to losing his parish years ago because a team from Catholic Care for elderly religious coming around to assess whether he was still okay to live on his own.
The option then was to move him to a facility, there are a few options, Camberwell, Hawthorn, both very nice.
I’m seeing that, on top of the 35% increase in power bills this year, AEMO forecasting an additional 50% increase next year alone….
Popcorn.
An autopsy showed that he had died of arteriosclerotic heart disease and police investigation revealed no evidence to contradict that.
All that means is that he wasn’t poisoned.
It means he died of heart disease not arse cancer as you ejaculated into the thread like a meth fueled masturbating marmoset into the spreading puddle of inaccuracy that surrounds you.
Perfectly timed, Bear.
Hancock was such a loon that his family became the richest in Australia.
So what, even if that was true.
The truth was, he was a fool.
His old man owned a lot of Freehold in the Pilbara, when our masters decided to stop making things and become a Quarry, he was in the box seat.
All the money was from Royalties, in other words, he was Australia’s biggest Dole Recipient.
Many Indigenous academics and politicians have lined up to support Australian netballers after they protested having Gina Rinehart’s company name on their uniform.
However, outspoken Country Liberal Party senator Jacinta Price argues Mrs Rinehart is a ‘pioneer’ for Aboriginal Australians who should not be judged by the sins of her father.
Daily Mail
None of that speaks against the claim that there was talk of a renewed offensive in the offing by UKR in Donbas and possibly Crimea. Either there was or there wasn’t. If there was, RUS is going to move against it either preemptively or not.
Spooky, eh?
Gina can now wait a few months and have a $15,000 sponsorship get her Hancock Prospecting tattooed on each player.
so nutty that governments spent quite some time and money proposing similar schemes with Fission bombs.
more like -$7M where last week they had +$8M.
Hard to tell he retweets so much junk but it looks like he’s refusing to move.
He’s 88, probably time to get some help with various things.
In my (fortuitously short) stint in the Pilbara mines they reckoned every train that left the place was worth $300k to Hancock. Not sure how close this was/is to reality.
Silly old farts ignoring the poison they pumped into themselves and discussing the theatre provided for them.
Yet there is a thousand extra dying a fortnight in Australia, above the average (BoS) and yet below the average age,…..people constantly catching gastros and colds and shingles popping up everwhere, etc etc etc etc….. and yet you do nothing but ignore it all.
When the bleeding obvious and the thousands of reports and stories of deaths from the vaxxes, the OVERWHELMING evidence, you ignore it, or chose, like lefties to believe any shit bar the truth.
Tell me again how mean words killed Kimberley Kitchens.
How holidaying in Thailand if you played cricket for Australia is a deadly combination.
Choo choo, who like Sancho of the Soiled panties, lived for this blog has been afforded a million excuses for not showing up, but not once will any of you admit he MAY have died from being boosted.
It just can’t be a possibility.
It’s a sickness of the mind I am fascinated observing since many of you lost your shit to fear porn/propaganda.
We can expect this behaviour from sheeple like lefties, like Monty, but once you live in lies you also act like leftists.
Fascinating, yet, honestly terrifying.
FMD, where’s the iodine?
I do recall a very funny cartoon that Alston did when Lang died. He had a whole bunch of lawyers walking through the gates of his mansion singing “For old Lang’s iron” 🙂
On the contrary, I reckon it is great.
Yeah sure, they will be getting a few “you go grrrls” on Twitter, and no doubt Bandana-Man will come out swinging in support.
But any potential sponsor would be looking at this and asking, “Why would I put my money anywhere near that shit-show?”
Eyrie/JC:
Israel did precisely what she needed to do – safeguard her own interests.
Interestingly enough Sun Tzu states that if a small nation is about to be attacked, it must with all forces attack the larger enemy.
If – say – Indonesia were to begin loading up 6 of her 12 divisions and start them steaming toward Darwin, Australia is fully justified to attack that convoy as it starts to exit the harbours. To stand still and let the 800lb Gorilla punch your head in, is folly.
His old man owned a lot of Freehold in the Pilbara
If ed-mong means the stations….
Exclusive footage of what led up to that latest mind nugget.
https://www.wa.gov.au/organisation/department-of-planning-lands-and-heritage/pastoral-land-and-leases
The lib leaflet drop for the state election gives me many reasons not to vote for them.
Easy, Tiger.
I am totally relaxed and comfortable, dude.
I have a gallon of iodine and pretty happy with myself.
Look, I don’t deny I may have left the odd skidmark in the Y-fronts, but I have never thrown my trousers out the window.
Thank a truckie.
Turtlehead
Stop addressing me . Go drink some turpentine, you gross moron. Take it to the battered hubbies thread you pathetic lunatic, fuck off.
Hey CornHolio
Gina’s not giving you any dosh for running this pathetic line.
She’s dumb [claiming to be keeping Politics outta Sport gave Lisa a free kick at her head], but not that dumb.
If only you could say the same about your bra and panties.
Franger is full time commenting on the Unz Review these days-
29,000 comments since January 2021, all of them sucking dead dogs.
I remember seeing something on their ABC way back last century.
I think it was probably Lang Hancock sitting at a rail crossing in his car watching an ore train go past.
The voice-over went something like, “… but he doesn’t mind the delay, because every rail wagon which goes past earns him $x”.
I forget how much it was, but as a kid I was gob-smacked at the amount as we watched scores of wagons whizz past.
Or was that a train driver?
I love all truckies.
Particularly the Indian ones.
They help keep freight prices under control.
Given a typical train and an average ore price, each train holds about $3.8M worth of ore.
TITS
Transport Ignorant Townie Syndrome.
Dove Beach:
At the time, a lot of people who really should have known better were saying Ukraines offensive was going well.
What was happening was the Russians were building defensive positions behind a screening force, then settling back into them for winter while their screening forces were refreshed/refurbished, and resupplied. This was their operational reserve and they are now set to do whatever they need to do while the Ukrainians have their equipment and troops in substandard quarters for the early days of winter. And having to resupply them over broken up roads and railways.
And as a bonus, they kill losts of Vicpol cops.
An excellent read on the perversion of kids by the trans rabble.
Confirms that burning down of any institution which peddles this crap is essential.
We actually pay for the destroyers of society to sit in 6 figure comfort as they peddle perversity.
https://www.city-journal.org/the-real-story-behind-drag-queen-story-hour
Death and inquest
That means no doctor was prepared to sign the certificate
No, it means that Rose, the Filipino flower, was subject to an accusation of poisoning the old shovel and an inquest had to resolve that.
Nobody in the meeja complaining that cost of living, rate hikes, inflation all out of control and we’ve had to wait for seven fucking months for a Federal budget…
An excellent idea, but imagine the Lefty hysterics if Gina, having been maligned by the netty gurrls, dared to donate her money to a conservative publication.
One mistake at the end of the WW2 doesn’t mean the rest of the war was wrong
The Brits snd French should have minded their business and taken an isolationist stance.
Lizzie:
He’s bloody lucky the SS didn’t beat the shit out of him.
Even luckier the crowd didn’t get their hands on his stupid little trick.
He’d have been up for a Darwin award.
I spent a bit of the 80s in the Hancock Prospecting building in West Perth after my then employer was evicted by another prominent Perth (to be) billionaire. Curiously, our offices were the former penthouse of another expat millionaire who subsequently went bankrupt himself. Ah, Boomtown.
Boambee John:
ROFLMAO. Field Marshal m0nty-fa, VC and 10 Bars, Laureate of the Staff College, Leader of Leaders from thousands of kilometres away, has checked the maps, and decided on the outcome.
“GROeSSTE FELDHERN ALLE ZEIT = Greatest Field General of All Time”
I think this stuff is funny.
Russia Warns Of ‘Dirty Bomb’ False Flag Plot In Flurry Of Rare Calls To Western Leaders (24 Oct)
It’s hilarious because Ukraine has no chance whatsoever of pinning a dirty bomb on Russia, because Russia has actual nukes. Why would Russia let off a conventional explosive-powered nuclear waste dirty bomb if she could just use a nuclear weapon instead?
Consequently all that false flagging a dirty bomb false flag does is say that if one is let off it is the Russians what did it. Since the Ukrainians can do logic same as I can, as can every intelligence agency on the planet.
TheFrolickingMoll:
Harsh words TFM.
You vill regret them.
Albo will cut election boondoggles to rural Australia to fund TaliDan’s suburban rail election loop boondoggle.
Not all boondoggles are created equal.
Livermore went so far as a dummy test with 4000 tons of TNT on a copper deposit. Produced a Richter 5 earthquake in the nearest town. I used to have a photocopy of journal article on the test, but I’ve lost it and it doesn’t seem to be on line.
Literally invented.
The Man who invented Climate Change and influenced Schwab’s Great Reset Agenda
Mount Warning banned! Which park will be next?
NSW Liberals betray Australians over National Park lock-out based on race. We are looking at widespread racial discrimination enforced by the state government
Marc Hendrickx
In June this year, the New South Wales ‘Liberal’ government announced plans to hand over control of all our NSW National Parks to Aboriginal Groups that live nearby. Now, with the release to the Wollumbin Aboriginal Place Management Plan (Mount Warning National Park) by NSW ‘Liberal’ government Minister for Environment and Heritage, the Hon James Griffin MP, and the Minister for Aboriginal Affairs and Tourism, the Hon Benjamin Franklin MP, we see how future access to our collective natural heritage will be managed.
In short, it means ignoring dissenting Aboriginal voices, closure of the park, banning public access under the threat of $550,000 fines, and removing the summit lookouts, helipads, and presumably the important geodetic survey markers – all trace of Western culture. The plan even allows for copyrighting the image of Mt Warning.
What was once billed internationally as a magnificent walk to witness the first sunrise in Australia will soon be the exclusive property of a small group disgruntled activists who, like Tolkien’s Gollum, want to keep ‘the precious’ for themselves.
If this is a taste of things to come the public will no longer have any National Parks in NSW to enjoy.
Key points about the plan:
Public Access will be banned:
‘Access to Wollumbin AP must be restricted and managed […] Public access is not culturally appropriate or culturally safe, Wollumbin AP should not be a recreational space for the public to visit or use for tourism (including use of the image of Wollumbin AP for advertising purposes) or any other purpose. Closure of the Wollumbin AP is sought immediately by the WCG’s Wollumbin Aboriginal stakeholders.’
Once the plan is in place the act of respectfully walking to the summit on the 110-year-old track built by locals will constitute ‘harm’ and attract a fine of up to $550,000. Where on earth does this seem a reasonable and proportionate response to someone bushwalking on a long-established track? In comparison, damaging or desecrating a Western Cultural place attracts a maximum penalty of a mere $4,400.
Mt Warning is one of the best preserved eroded shield volcanoes on the planet and has been used for many decades as a showcase of volcanic landforms to teach upcoming geologists about volcanic processes. But soon, even access for scientific purposes will require a nod to myth and superstition as any requests for access will be ‘based on cultural guidance from the WCG and be done on a case-by-case basis’.
Removing lookouts and other signs of western civilisation:
All traces of Western Civilisation is to be removed!
‘All existing infrastructure should be removed with the minimal amount of impact.’
The entire park will be closed:
‘The WCG recommend further cultural assessment toward a declaration and re-gazettal of all the Wollumbin National Park (Mt Warning National Park) as an Aboriginal Place due to the multitude of Aboriginal sites and the high cultural significance of all of the area within the reserve.’
It was developed and implemented in secrecy:
It’s sacred, but you will not be allowed to know why.
‘Culturally sensitive stories and cultural knowledge will not be shared with the public through interpretive signage, community education/awareness activities or in this management plan.’
Did not consult with all custodians:
Dissenting views of Aboriginal elders like Ngaraakwal Elder Marlene Boyd and Ngaraakwal/Githabul elder Harry Boyd were not taken into account. Marlene famously stated before she died in 2007: ‘I do not oppose the public climbing of Mt Warning – how can the public experience the spiritual significance of this land if they do not climb the summit and witness creation!’ Her inspirational message is missing from the plan.
The plan is built on extremist interpretations of Australian colonial history:
No wonder the plan is flawed when the very foundation is built on a lie.
‘Wollumbin Mountain was observed by Captain James Cook on the 15 May 1770 during his survey of the east coast. This journey marked the beginning of the systematic invasion of Australia and all Aboriginal land by Europeans, leading to indescribable trauma and destruction. Violent clashes in the 1840s to 1850s between Aboriginal nations and cedar getters, and the defence of their lands by these nations resulted in massacres, killings, ambushes and poisonings and the movement of some Aboriginal people from the area.’
Embraces superstition and myths:
We can respectfully enter any church, mosque, or temple on the planet. In Australia, we now ban access to nature’s temple. The plan indicates this new signage will be placed at the base of the track:
‘You enter this Mountain breaking the traditional law and customs of the Bundjalung people and the sacred and significant Mountain, under the Bundjalung traditional laws and customs given to the 14 Bundjalung tribes by men. The past Elders of all the tribes agreed to shut this Mountain, and you walk this track without the consent of the Bundjalung people. As spoken by the Traditional Owners as to uphold our traditional laws and customs with the wishes of past Elders.’
Sexist:
Not only does the plan discriminate against non-Aboriginal people it discriminates against Aboriginal women, some of whom do not agree Mount Warning is a Men’s area:
Appendix B Baseline site condition report – Restricted to men.
Appendix F Plates from Baseline site condition report – Restricted to men.
The plan’s influence extends outside the park and provides for ‘removal of infrastructure’ on overlooking spurs and ridges that impacts the purported ‘cultural values’. How many local residents with views of Mount Warning will need to relocate? How many power lines and communication towers will need to be demolished so a few are not offended?
‘Development within the views and vistas of Wollumbin AP could affect intervisibility to important cultural sites. Impacts could include things like building on spurs and ridges. Further suburban development within the views and vistas of Wollumbin AP will impact on the aesthetics, connection to Country and the cultural landscape which are integral to the cultural values of Wollumbin AP. Removal of infrastructure will occur once the summit is closed in the future.’
Discrimination:
While the public will be banned from the summit and park, access for the select and privileged members of the Wollumbin Consultative Group (WCG) will continue. That is if they can complete the ‘dangerous and difficult’ walk to the summit. Perhaps a chair lift will be required.
‘Cultural access by the WCG for cultural renewal and activities should continue and continue after closure as culturally appropriate in consultation with NSW NPWS in relation to access safety/condition of path.’
Inconsistent:
Despite a desire by the WCG to continue to have access to the summit the track will be allowed to overgrow? Perhaps a chairlift is planned? Or maybe the state government will provide a helicopter for cultural access?
‘The WCG’s preferred method for erosion control of the Wollumbin Summit Track is not to bring in topsoil or erosion barriers, but to close the track and allow Wollumbin Mountain to heal itself, by allowing vegetation to grow over the track and stabilise sediments.’
No doubt the public will continue to bear the cost of maintaining access for a select few.
Existing infrastructure in good condition – but let’s rip it out:
‘Infrastructure included helipads, viewing platforms, bench seats, timber and other construction, steps, boardwalks, and ramps within Wollumbin AP and carparking and other amenities at the base of the walking track. This infrastructure was all in good condition, however, the management goal of the WCG is to close access to Wollumbin AP and remove the infrastructure.’
For over 20 years NSW NPWS have been on a mission to ban the public from the mountain. Sadly with the acquiescence of a weak-kneed morally bankrupt ‘Liberal’ government this has now come to fruition. One wonders how the bureaucrats will be able to sleep having destroyed public access to so much awe and wonder.
Which National Park will be next?
The Spectator
so simple and so straightforward that it’s jarring
now ask yourself what that means about the world.
CONFIRMED – COVID is Man-Made & Fauci, Bill Gates, Daszak & Moderna are responsible
I’m working up the courage to ask my (John Cleese lool-alike) brother if he is, in fact, Infidel Tiger. Both are scarily similar, using the same non-PC language, frothing with cringe-worthy similes, lampooning revered institutions and frightening old ladies and their Muffy dogs.
On second thought, I really don’t want to know.
Gonzalo Lira
2022.10.23 NATO Is Cocking Its Fist