Open Thread – Weekend 22 Oct 2022


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Dot
Dot
October 24, 2022 9:34 am

Anyone preparing for a nuclear provocation is a suicidal moron.

rosie
rosie
October 24, 2022 9:35 am

Is Eblow chipping in for the Cheltenham to Box Hill train line?
Kooyong, that’s a teal electorate right?
I’m not sure how the removal of a level crossing is a rort or a waste but progressive always use words like they are Humpty Dumpty

“Projects on the chopping block include $475m for the Monash rail project in the electorate of Chisholm, a $50m Napoleon Road upgrade and an $110m Wellington Road upgrade in Alan Tudgeโ€™s electorate of Aston, a $260m commitment to remove the Glenferrie Road level crossing in the electorate of Kooyong, and a $7.5m commuter car park commitment in the Sydney seat of Banks.”

Laborโ€™s โ€˜rorts and wasteโ€™ audit to deliver $10bn in savings to federal budget

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 24, 2022 9:35 am

m0ntysays:
October 24, 2022 at 9:28 am
I donโ€™t recall anyone calling Ms Higgins a sl ut, or making any comment whatsoever about her sex life.

LOL.

An IT “genius” like m0nty-fa should have no difficulty on providing the links to justify his “LOL”.

But then he is also a j’ismist, which might counter the IT “genius”.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 24, 2022 9:36 am

Big win for the BCCI in the T20 World Cup. Countless Subcontinental bookies pay a heavy price.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 24, 2022 9:37 am

There is nothing to learn, Bear. Every single Cat saying something to the tune of โ€œthat slut is totally a slutโ€ until the cows come home. Boring.

Itโ€™s a little more learning-filled than that.

Itโ€™s an intriguing insight into Justice with Australian characteristics when a โ€˜he-said-she-saidโ€™ goes to trial after months of carefully curated public speculation against the accused, a Prime Ministerial guilty verdict delivered in Parliament, and the trial process apparently deliberately destabilised by a key witness with a political motive.

More Grand Guignol than gawking.

Morsie
Morsie
October 24, 2022 9:37 am

Techno idiocy – Google maps keeps telling me that my journey may be affected by floods in Central Victoria.Given that I am travelling in suburban Melbourne I am somewhat bemused.

Zipster
Zipster
October 24, 2022 9:37 am

we now what might happen when putin is desperate but what about the cocaine midget …

The Kyiv regime is preparing a provocation with a “dirty bomb” in Ukraine

rosie
rosie
October 24, 2022 9:38 am

How about instead of lol you give examples Monty?
You said everyone so something from everyone while you’re at it.

rosie
rosie
October 24, 2022 9:39 am

I got that driving to Springvale the other day Morsie, very helpful.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 24, 2022 9:40 am

BOM have not been a serious agency for some time now

All you need to know is they start their rainfall series in 1900 but only start their temperature series in 1910…right at the very bottom of the cool period after the Federation Drought. They totally leave out the hot 1880-1910 period at the peak of that 60 year cycle. In other words they know about the cycle and are hiding it, since as soon as it is taken into account the calculated effect of CO2 is halved, therefore harmless.

And all that’s even before you get into the “adjustments” they made to the temperature series. They should be privatized, stick to weather and be kept right away from climate change stuff.

Jorge
Jorge
October 24, 2022 9:40 am

Does Boris take anything seriously ?

Or has he mixed up real life and the Bullingdon Club ?

calli
calli
October 24, 2022 9:41 am

Iโ€™ll help m0nty out.

I remember making a comment about her choice of underwear to prevent the horrors of VPL. And perhaps the little white dress was a bit on the brief side for a business meeting albeit they were โ€œdrinkiesโ€.

And then saying that perhaps I was old-fashioned.

rosie
rosie
October 24, 2022 9:45 am

From Monique’s diary a couple of weeks ago, having meetings with the wrong government.
Last week I also had meetings with state government officials about level crossings

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 24, 2022 9:46 am

I donโ€™t think Iโ€™ve uttered a word about Higgins this year, and let me tell you, contrary to what some others have said, I find her quite comely.

Should of gone to Specsavers.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 24, 2022 9:47 am

A well known commenter thought the lack of panties had significant probative value. Sancho was just excited to be able to use the word panties.

Tom
Tom
October 24, 2022 9:48 am

…contrary to what some others have said, I find her quite comely.

Our Doverlord is a chip off the old CL block. I bet he even watches Nigella Lawson cooking shows.

JC
JC
October 24, 2022 9:48 am

Dot says:
October 24, 2022 at 9:34 am
Anyone preparing for a nuclear provocation is a suicidal moron.

Load up with iodized Saxa salt just in case.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 24, 2022 9:49 am

I have never had a problem with VPL.

JC
JC
October 24, 2022 9:50 am

A well known commenter thought the lack of panties had significant probative value. Sancho was just excited to be able to use the word panties.

Three words I despise the sound of in the English language.

Moist
Panties
Pregnant

They kinda go together, right?

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 24, 2022 9:50 am

The article said his burns were mostly superficial and he is expected to make a full recovery.

If you believe that after watching the video, I have a bridge to sell you…..

Barry
Barry
October 24, 2022 9:52 am

Crossie says:
October 24, 2022 at 9:33 am

calli says:
October 24, 2022 at 8:17 am
The net result of reporting inland river levels โ€œpeakingโ€ at 97+ metres is that manyโ€ฆmany people who donโ€™t understand how these things are measured will believe that the surrounding area is that much under water.

Itโ€™s fine for estuarine systems (eg. The Hawkesbury) where the tides affect flood levels, but the Goulburn and Murray? The BoM is using the measurement indiscriminately for scare value. They are no longer a serious agency.

BOM have not been a serious agency for some time now, at least since they started revising the historical records.

Pretty sure that the same rebranding consultant that they took on in November last year is also responsible for the new “Severe weather season” messaging regarding October.

BoM has never used the term “Severe Weather Season” until this year, and it is clearly a Melbourne driven thing, since the severe cyclones are November to April.

Again, getting “Engagement” by terrifying the punters.

Not at all what a professional outfit should be doing.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 24, 2022 9:53 am

Load up with iodized Saxa salt just in case.

Swapped out the chicken salt last week just in case. Should be OK.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 24, 2022 9:53 am

Three words I despise the sound of in the English language.

Moist
Panties
Pregnant

Now for some *favourites*:

Fiasco
Debacle…. especially Debacle ๐Ÿ™‚

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 24, 2022 9:54 am

H B Bearsays:

October 24, 2022 at 9:47 am

A well known commenter thought the lack of panties had significant probative value. Sancho was just excited to be able to use the word panties.

And the excitement is heightened considerably by the addition of the adjectives “frilly” and “lacy”.

rosie
rosie
October 24, 2022 9:54 am

“If you believe that after watching the video, I have a bridge to sell youโ€ฆ.”
Is there anything happening anywhere that you aren’t the world’s leading expert on?

Zipster
Zipster
October 24, 2022 9:55 am

know

wivenhoe
wivenhoe
October 24, 2022 9:55 am

Min, designated fire โ€˜wardensโ€™, people on each floor with hearing, might help for rousing a set number of non-hearers. Still not the best solution, I know. This must be a problem encountered elsewhere, and I am wondering if there might be some electronic fix for it.

There is a “fix” for it available. Costs about five hundred dollars and consists of a smoke detector, flashing strobe type lights and a vibrating pad under pillows that will also shake bed when activated.
Only solves the problem for one bedroom though, and still leaves the mobility problem unsolved.

m0nty
October 24, 2022 9:56 am

Monty,
Why donโ€™t you tell us again about the blue wave you predicted, some months back, for the US mid terms?

If anyone thinks they know for sure how the midterms are going to pan out at this point, they’re delusional. It’s two waves crashing into each other. Which is stronger, Dobbs or inflation? Your guess is as good as mine.

wivenhoe
wivenhoe
October 24, 2022 9:57 am

Should have also added that I have one and have had it installed at home before moving into aged care.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 24, 2022 9:57 am

Serious question.
How many radiation deaths occurred outside, say, a 50km radius of Chernobyl?
And how many packets of salt and vinegar chips did it take to keep them safe?

rosie
rosie
October 24, 2022 9:57 am

I forgot to ask, did you get to sign off on your diagnosis of Queen Elizabeth’s real cause of death apparently based solely on a photo taken two days prior or should we leave that in the forgettery?

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 24, 2022 9:57 am

I feel their pronouncement are now not meant to inform and warn but to panic the population into not venturing out into the environment, ever.

shades of Dalrymple on Political Correctness:

โ€œPolitical correctness is communist propaganda writ small. In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is in some small way to become evil oneself. One’s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.โ€

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 24, 2022 9:57 am

And the excitement is heightened considerably by the addition of the adjectives โ€œfrillyโ€ and โ€œlacyโ€.

And the favourites โ€œlack ofโ€or โ€œmissingโ€.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
October 24, 2022 9:59 am

rosie says:
October 24, 2022 at 8:27 am
If I recall various articles correctly one of the biggest problem for long term unemployed is getting out of bed in the morning. Forming the habit of going to work, following directions etc even putting in a full day are useful skills too.

Any IR legal eagles/bush lawyers/experienced employers out there in Cat land?
My unemployed grand-daughter is living with me while she looks for work.
She has had several interviews and has two “try-outs” organised. (hospitality industry and tourism)
Unpaid.
I’m in favour of her doing unpaid work in order to secure a position but her budding lawyer brother says she must be paid for a 4 hour try-out – It’s the law!! Urges her to turn down unpaid shifts.
Any definitive answers from Cat brethren?

Roger
Roger
October 24, 2022 10:00 am

Every single Cat saying something to the tune of โ€œthat slut is totally a slutโ€ until the cows come home. Boring.

It’s not even morning tea time & monty is mounting a “You lot” attack.

Not a promising start to the week, monts.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 24, 2022 10:01 am

Netty Nasties drive the Sofa Mazurka off the front pages.
Will no one think of Britnah?

Gabor
Gabor
October 24, 2022 10:02 am

wivenhoe says:
October 24, 2022 at 9:55 am

Yes wivenhoe, my comment was directed at the hearing problem too, not mobility.
I don’t know the answer to that, but I would think locating the vulnerable in the best accessible location would be a start. Multistory accommodation can be economic, but hardly the best for rescue.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 24, 2022 10:03 am

m0nty-fa

Which is stronger, Dobbs or inflation? Your guess is as good as mine.

Which affects the greater number of voters?

Gabor
Gabor
October 24, 2022 10:07 am

Itโ€™s the law!! Urges her to turn down unpaid shifts.
Any definitive answers from Cat brethren?

Tell him to stuff it up…
If she gets a job out of it, it is all worth it.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 24, 2022 10:11 am

Iโ€™m in favour of her doing unpaid work in order to secure a position but her budding lawyer brother says she must be paid for a 4 hour try-out โ€“ Itโ€™s the law!! Urges her to turn down unpaid shifts.
Any definitive answers from Cat brethren?

In the current climate the correct answer for unpaid trials for menial work is “Fuck off!”

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
October 24, 2022 10:11 am

I bet he even watches Nigella Lawson cooking shows

He’s not on his Pat.

John H.
John H.
October 24, 2022 10:15 am

shatterzzzsays:
October 24, 2022 at 8:46 am
Work for the dole is also an opportunity to not merely live off the labour of others.
Iโ€™ll hazard a guess that this comes from someone whoโ€™s never experienced WFTD .. FFS!
Slave labour is still slave labour know matter the intention or fancy title applied .. do you really think that most of those employers benefiting from โ€˜freeโ€ labour were/are gonna use it to improve the โ€œvolunteersโ€ chances of finding a full-time job ..
Have a look at the โ€œblackmailโ€ schemes CentreLink operate .. the ones where they subsidize wages for specific periods .. in 99% of the cases as soon as the subsidy cuts out .. so does the job! ..

The research states that wage subsidies benefit the employer not the employee. Financially it is a net negative. The typical result is the job is lost when the subsidy ends.

WFD does not lead to increased employment opportunities. It is an expense because the person has to pay to get to the relevant site and rarely does WFD provide employment opportunities. Forced free labour is a strange idea in the 21st century.

Of course I don’t expect people to look into these issues in any serious way. Typically they throw out the government line and trust what the government says about those two schemes. It would be nice if I lived in a world where people didn’t so willing accept the claims by politicians but I’m dreaming.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 24, 2022 10:19 am

The reason I say that about unpaid trials is “start how you mean to continue”.
After the unpaid trial the next thing will be “everyone stays back and works a bit of unpaid overtime” and “no-one does paid breaks here” etc etc.
Don’t demand the level of commitment you might expect from a $250,000 p.a. salaried job from a $20/hr diswashing job.

132andBush
132andBush
October 24, 2022 10:24 am

Dobbs or inflation?

You really do live in a bubble.

GOP to take both houses.

Winston Smith
October 24, 2022 10:25 am

JC:

Turtlehead, you fabulist moron. You donโ€™t direct me or anyone else where they should post, you dickhead.

Then perhaps you should stop telling other people where they can post?
Perhaps you might like to post to the very same standards you demand of others, yet refuse to do so yourself?

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
October 24, 2022 10:25 am


And all thatโ€™s even before you get into the โ€œadjustmentsโ€ they made to the temperature series. They should be privatized, stick to weather and be kept right away from climate change stuff.

Indeed.
The problem with the data remains. The unadulterated data in many places and time frames is no longer available.
The custodians of the raw data have thrown the raw data away.

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 24, 2022 10:27 am

Controlled flight departure.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
October 24, 2022 10:29 am

JoNova is promoting a WA climate debate.
As she says “Now for something very unusual: Tuesday night in Perth, Australia, there will be a climate debate. Bravo to the Philosophy and Reason group for organising it.

The legendary David Archibald and I take on Professor Peter Newman from Curtin University โ€“ Advisor to IPCC, 2018 Premierโ€™s (WA) Scientist of the Year, and Councillor Ian Johnson โ€“ Current City of Swan elected councillor responsible for CoS Climate Sustainability Policies.

You don’t see these public debates very often.

Winston Smith
October 24, 2022 10:31 am

Boambee John:

Quadrant is a good cause, but Gina could do far more for conservatism by taking over Womensโ€™ Weekly and New Idea, sacking most of the current writers, and installing some better ones.

Honestly, I think WW and NI are well past their salvageable value.
Better off buying one of the 7/9/10 networks and doing the Rabz Stomp on one of them.
I reckon one of them would do well with new Management and Programming.

Roger
Roger
October 24, 2022 10:32 am

The Conservative Party has been a paradoxical means by which a Court can impose itself on Country. Occasionally, it finds itself obliged to pay attention to Country. For instance, Brexit. Cameron, like everyone else of the Court, was opposed to Brexit. The Country wanted it. Johnson temporised. His instincts were actually more โ€˜conservativeโ€™ in this sense than Cameronโ€™s (in seeing the obligation to pay attention occasionally to Country). But any credit Johnson achieved by Brexit was lost by Covid. Covid was, in effect, the proof, to anyone capable of seeing it, that we are still in the early 18th Century, that there is a Court and a Country: with the difference that Court has spent the last three centuries since Walpole โ€˜diversifyingโ€™ and โ€˜engaging with outreachโ€™, so to speak, in such a way that it has dragooned half the population โ€“ the higher (sic) educated (sic) half โ€“ into Court politics: using various means: chief amongst them financial inducement and ideological capture via various politically correct convictions (Ian Robinson defined โ€˜political correctnessโ€™ unforgettably as โ€˜the official beliefs of the ruling classโ€™.)

There is No Coherent โ€˜Conservativeโ€™ Doctrine, so Arguing About how โ€˜Conservativeโ€™ the Leadership Candidates are is Pointless

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 24, 2022 10:38 am

Professor Peter Newman from Curtin University

One of ALPBC Perthโ€™s favourite panty bunchers. Rent-a-quote on all the usual subjects.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 24, 2022 10:40 am

Pant, panty, panties. Bit of a theme developing.

JC
JC
October 24, 2022 10:40 am

And the cheating, Dover.

Fetter man is likely to win in Penn because of the urban cheating. Thatโ€™s just one example.

cohenite
October 24, 2022 10:40 am

If anyone thinks they know for sure how the midterms are going to pan out at this point, theyโ€™re delusional. Itโ€™s two waves crashing into each other. Which is stronger, Dobbs or inflation? Your guess is as good as mine.

But you have no dick.

The mid-terms are gone; demorat cheating will be rampant; biden will concoct some issue to curtail, delay or abandon them; Ukraine holds promise. On biden there is no doubt he is demented; normally you would feel sorry for someone with his condition. But I believe he still has enough synapses to understand, in part, what his puppeteers are doing. But the vile old scumbag is incorrigibly corrupt; he has been selling out his country for so long he does not care. And he is so arrogant and entitled. In a just world he would be executed for his crimes but he will have a mindless, happy retirement.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 24, 2022 10:41 am

She has had several interviews and has two โ€œtry-outsโ€ organised. (hospitality industry and tourism)
Unpaid.

Not uncommon in a few situations, like say a chef in a premium restaurant.
I know someone who was going to be slotted in as chef de pass for the big shifts at a 3 hatted place.
He was expected to work for 2-3 days for nothing to see if he would fit in.

If it was making beds or anything like that, I’d tell them to jam it.

Winston Smith
October 24, 2022 10:42 am

Bespoke:

I think it odd that a โ€˜conservativeโ€™ magazine put its hand out for government cash.

You have a point.
It is far better to defund the leftist magazines – funding that is stolen from taxpayers with no right of reply.

duncanm
duncanm
October 24, 2022 10:42 am

Armadillosays:
October 24, 2022 at 2:57 am
The โ€œGina Stuffโ€ raises an interesting question.

Australia has a very different โ€œsporting modelโ€ to the US and the UK (and the rest of the world).

‘dillo.

You miss the gorilla in the room.

Look at the financials of any Olympic sport like Netball, Sailing, Athletics, etc.

They are completely captured by AIS funding. Grass-roots activities are a sideshow, and the general membership has almost zero control over the direction of the sport.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 24, 2022 10:43 am

Baris said he’d be back in the field once more in Pennsylvania pre the mid-terms.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 24, 2022 10:43 am

I is impossible to use (sic) without looking like a wanker. Take note.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 24, 2022 10:46 am

monty, I hazard a guess, gets the vibe of whatโ€™s going on in the US from ABCโ€™s Planet America.

Not forgetting โ€œtrusted bloggersโ€.

cohenite
October 24, 2022 10:46 am

Fetter man is likely to win in Penn because of the urban cheating. Thatโ€™s just one example.

And it is a central one too. Fetterman is a typical demorat: spoilt, puerile, lazy, an enormous child who is demented. It will be entirely symbolic that he beats a doctor with a long history of civic duty. The other one is Kari Lake; she is one of the best candidates I have seen; but she will be beaten by a useless skank. Already fraud is happening:

WATCH: LIBERAL HACK REPORTER Harasses Patriotic Americans Observing and Recording Potential Fraud at Arizona Drop Boxes

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 24, 2022 10:47 am

‘bern at 10:41.
Agree absolutely.
If it is a genuine career development position for an adult with some experience, fair enough.
But seriously?
A trial period for mopping floors, stacking a dishwasher or making beds?
Fuck off.

duncanm
duncanm
October 24, 2022 10:47 am

Victorian seems to be on a crusade to destroy volunteerism.

That’s the plan – like the CFA, if you remove the volunteers and make these positions part of state employ, then you have more captive voters sucking on the state teat.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 24, 2022 10:50 am

โ€œIf you believe that after watching the video, I have a bridge to sell youโ€ฆ.โ€

Is there anything happening anywhere that you arenโ€™t the worldโ€™s leading expert on?

Your question is a tad broad, lets re-write it to address the current issue: ‘”what are your qualifications for assessing the seriousness of burns?”

Oh I don’t know:

– Trauma Dr for 32 years, certified in ‘Early Management of Severe Burns’ and ‘ Early Management of Severe Trauma’.
– Aeromedical Retrieval Dr for SA Ambulance and RFDS for decades – did over 500 Retrieval flights before retirement.
– Volunteer firefighter for 20+ years, including multiple publications on the protection of bushfire fighters in burnover incidents. Consultant to ACT Fire Authorities on same.
– International Speaker on the protection of EMS workers from fire.
– First Class Honours Degree in Injury Protection.
– Military Dr with 3 ‘hot’ deployments to the MEAO, including working in US Military ICUs in Baghdad and Kandahar (severe burns are a common problem in war).

No further questions your honour…..

John H.
John H.
October 24, 2022 10:53 am
H B Bear
H B Bear
October 24, 2022 10:53 am

Thatโ€™s the plan โ€“ like the CFA, if you remove the volunteers and make these positions part of state employ, then you have more captive voters sucking on the state teat.

Donโ€™t forget a big thank you to the UFU.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 24, 2022 10:55 am

Pant, panty, panties. Bit of a theme developing.

Thatโ€™s deliberately leaving a tray of uncovered meat out, Bear. You might tone things down, before certain weaker posters lose control and become inappropriate.

Johnny Rotten
October 24, 2022 10:55 am

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

– Winston Churchill

m0nty
October 24, 2022 10:56 am

There is no Dobbs wave. Ds are going to get murdered. Itโ€™s not just that the better polls are indicating this, its that the shyster polls are doing everything in their power to try to pretend otherwise.

The “better polls” are from firms who are gun shy about under-sampling Republicans given recent results, and thus have their thumbs on the scale now to make sure they don’t make that mistake again. We shall see if they are making the opposite mistake this time. Either way, you can’t trust the polls at this point.

Recent elections – you know, not polls, actual voting – have shown about an 8-point swing to the Democrats, so the Dobbs wave is real. But it’s been a few months since those happened, and inflation is very much a factor the other way.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
October 24, 2022 10:57 am

I’ve lost control.

m0nty
October 24, 2022 10:58 am

monty, I hazard a guess, gets the vibe of whatโ€™s going on in the US from ABCโ€™s Planet America.

Nah. I don’t watch TV much. The only FTA show I watch is Have You Been Paying Attention.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 24, 2022 10:58 am

Get back to Muellerween preparations mUnty.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 24, 2022 10:58 am

Iโ€™ve lost control.

See what youโ€™ve done.

Wally Dalรญ
Wally Dalรญ
October 24, 2022 11:00 am

H B Bearsays:
October 24, 2022 at 10:43 am
I [sic] is impossible to use (sic) without looking like a wanker. Take note

I think you meant to type “It” at the start of that sentence.
See, there are multiple ways to make oneself a flog…

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 24, 2022 11:00 am

Why would they under-sample Republican voters Monty?
Do tell us.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 24, 2022 11:00 am

H B Bearsays:

October 24, 2022 at 10:53 am

Thatโ€™s the plan โ€“ like the CFA, if you remove the volunteers and make these positions part of state employ, then you have more captive voters sucking on the state teat.

Donโ€™t forget a big thank you to the UFU.

Yes, that was the end-game.
Expand the membership base of the UFU, and provide some juicy tree-change opportunities for the inner city cat-rescuers.
Standby for next fire season.
Lots of tut-tutting from “perfessional fire fighters” about the ineptitude of CFA volunteers.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 24, 2022 11:01 am

โ€˜Relaxโ€™: Judge tells Lehrmann jury thereโ€™s no rush to reach verdict
By Angus Thompson

The judge presiding over the Bruce Lehrmann trial has told the jury not to bow to any public pressure to deliver a quick verdict in the high-profile case, adding it should take all the time it needs.

The jury, comprising eight women and four men, sent a note to ACT Supreme Court Chief Justice Lucy McCallum this morning, asking for โ€œa little extra time to complete our deliberationโ€ over whether the former Coalition staffer sexually assaulted his colleague Brittany Higgins in Parliament House on March 23, 2019.

Reading out the note in the presence of the jury, McCallum told the jury โ€œyou can and should take all the time you needโ€, adding sheโ€™d had juries out for โ€œconsiderably longerโ€.

The jury has so far been deliberating for two days and one hour.

โ€œThereโ€™s no rush, thereโ€™s no time limit,โ€ McCallum said. โ€œIf youโ€™re feeling any pressure from the knowledge that people are waiting for the verdict, thereโ€™s no pressure from anyone on you … weโ€™ll hear from you when we hear from you.โ€

She then told them to return to the jury room and โ€œrelax, stay as calm as you can.โ€

Lehrmann has pleaded not guilty to a single charge of having sexual intercourse with Higgins without her consent, being reckless as to whether she was consenting.

Lehrmann denies ever having sex with Higgins. The trial is now entering its fourth week after beginning October 4.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 24, 2022 11:02 am

Dr Faustussays:

October 24, 2022 at 10:55 am

Pant, panty, panties. Bit of a theme developing.

Thatโ€™s deliberately leaving a tray of uncovered meat out,ย Bear. You might tone things down, before certain weaker posters lose control and become inappropriate.

You talkin’ to me?
Huh?

Wally Dalรญ
Wally Dalรญ
October 24, 2022 11:04 am

A “high pressure”- ie time sensitive and interpersonally dependent – workplace, I can see why a new “team member” would be taken on for trial only, no promises- think of a meulsing team or said restaurant. Kitchens in particular operate on banter with a sprinkling of hazing. But doing it for no pay whatsoever is a bit crap, especially so for larger businesses, esp when there’s an apprenticeship chain in line in the first place.

Winston Smith
October 24, 2022 11:05 am

Dot:

Anyone preparing for a nuclear provocation is a suicidal moron.

So you won’t be taking up your reservation at Winstons Kelp and Fine Wine Bunker?
That’s a pity. I was so looking forward to your exclamations of delight when we’d drunk all the wine and beer, and only had Fermented Goat Urine to drink.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 24, 2022 11:08 am

You talkinโ€™ to me?
Huh?

I was more thinking Rambler; but now you mention itโ€ฆ

Winston Smith
October 24, 2022 11:12 am

Calli:

I remember making a comment about her choice of underwear to prevent the horrors of VPL.

I’ve forgotten – VPL?
Is it some form of perineal fallout?

rosie
rosie
October 24, 2022 11:13 am

Is the party of the wukkas really going to let wages stagnant?
I see lots of ads at the Guardian urging Labor voters to shift left in Victoria.
Maybe there’ll be a new coalition government.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 24, 2022 11:14 am

being reckless as to whether she was consenting.

What does this mean? We were being reckless and she fell on my dick?

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 24, 2022 11:14 am

Standby for next fire season. Lots of tut-tutting from โ€œperfessional fire fightersโ€ about the ineptitude of CFA volunteers.

The typical ‘Metro’ fire truck carries less water than a ‘Country’ truck and cant ‘pump and roll’.

Good luck doing a running grass fire with that.

Zipster
Zipster
October 24, 2022 11:15 am

the jury, comprising eight women and four men

sounds fair and balanced

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 24, 2022 11:15 am

being reckless as to whether she was consenting.

Any of the bush lawyers on the Cat care to explain that one? Inquiring minds want to know.

Winston Smith
October 24, 2022 11:16 am

Flyingduk.

Now for some *favourites*:
Fiasco
Debacleโ€ฆ. especially Debacle

My favorite is ‘duplicitous’. It rolls off the tongue so elegantly…

Winston Smith
October 24, 2022 11:19 am

I will admit to monty being right on this one occasion.

If anyone thinks they know for sure how the midterms are going to pan out at this point, theyโ€™re delusional.

There is no logical way of predicting what happens.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
October 24, 2022 11:20 am

From Cory Bernardi. And no, I don’t give a fuck if you like him or not!

Yesterday I saw a Pfizer contract for the EU member state Slovenia. It was obtained under Freedom of Information (FOI) requests and makes for damning reading.

As an EU nation, it is reasonable to presume that this was a standardised agreement with terms and conditions applied righ across Europe.

The FOI request delivered four contracts, the most recent was dated 28 September 2021. All four contracts contained the following condition.

“The Participating Member State further acknowledges that the long-term effects and efficacy of the Vaccine are not currently known”

Cassie of Sydney
October 24, 2022 11:20 am

From The Oz…

Joyce, Plibersek split on netball sponsorship row
Chloe Whelan

Former Nationals Leader Barnaby Joyce has expressed support for Gina Rinehart’s decision to pull her $15 million sponsorship from Netball Australia, calling the team “crazy” for taking a stand against the mining magnate.

“You’ve got $15 million of somebody else’s money,” Mr Joyce told Seven News on Monday.

“How about saying thank you, rather than ‘oh yeah, we don’t want it’.

“We’ve already seen people coming out now, such as Australian Women’s Golf saying they’ll take the money. There are a lot of other causes. There are peopleโ€ฆ returned servicemen and returned servicewomen who are saying they’ll have the money.”

Environment Minister Tanya Plibersek, who was also on Seven’s panel, defended the players.

“I don’t mind hearing from the players,” Ms Plibersek said.

“I think they’ve got a right to express their opinionsโ€ฆ They’re a terrific, successful team, and I really hope there are other Australian businesses out there who are prepared to get in behind women’s netball and back it.””

I reckon Plibbers and her husband, a one time criminal, who’s now NSW’s most senior bureaucrat, can cough some dosh. Between the two of them, these two parasites are milking the NSW and Australian taxpayer close to a million bucks a year.

Wally Dalรญ
Wally Dalรญ
October 24, 2022 11:21 am

Aaaaand WA is Emergency Powered for two more years.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 24, 2022 11:21 am

the jury, comprising eight women and four men

sounds fair and balanced

I was wondering what would happen if they split 8/4.
The screeching would be audible on Venus.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 24, 2022 11:23 am

Zipstersays:

October 24, 2022 at 11:15 am

the jury, comprising eight women and four men

sounds fair and balanced

Not quite.
Prosecutors used to try to avoid older ladies in jury selection for rape trials.
They were more likely than any other demographic to go for the “asking for it” defence.

Johnny Rotten
October 24, 2022 11:24 am

So the Bureau of Meteorology don’t want to be called the BOM any longer.

Well, they should look at their website for a start which still states BOM and BOM Weather……………………….

http://www.bom.gov.au/?ref=hdr

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 24, 2022 11:25 am

Journalists shun inconvenient news stories on the environmentCHRIS MITCHELL

Newsroom rounds have changed so much during the digital age that many reporters now only write what their audience wants to hear. The change is profound in environment journalism.

Once a great environment writer such as the late Brian Woodley, from this paper, would have excellent contacts in the conservation movement, but would also have relationships of trust with industry. Such rounds-people could write stories critical of companies doing the wrong thing but also take account of jobs and development priorities. They could write favourably of some environmental campaigns but criticise misleading ones.

Today environment lobby groups own the opinions of too many environment writers. Itโ€™s the same in other areas such as education, where reporters are beholden to the teacher unions, or immigration and asylum seeker news, where immigration lawyers and asylum seeker advocates dominate coverage.

Partly this reflects the relative strength of the public relations business and the declining state of newsrooms as thousands of journalists have left the media.

Itโ€™s easier for a well funded advocacy group to get its message into coverage than it is for news editors to seek out difficult stories with scarce reporting resources.

Consider for example the likely impact on the natural environment of the expansion of wind and solar power generation, all the land that will be required and the resources, particularly rare earths, that will need to be mined.

Itโ€™s surely a fascinating subject, but itโ€™s difficult.

Much easier simply to report the self-serving statements of businesses that will profit from the energy transition and the positions of conservation lobbies that want an end to all fossil fuel use right now, whatever the damage to the economy or to people on low incomes.

Yet the online audience growth at the ABC and Guardian Australia suggests there is a hunger for climate catastrophist news. Perhaps less so for positive environment stories. Think, for example, of the early August report by the Australian Institute of Marine Science saying coral on the Great Barrier Reef had largely recovered and coral coverage was the best in the instituteโ€™s 36 years.

The Guardian had to report it with a negative message in the headline: Great Barrier Reefโ€™s record coral cover is good news but climate threat remains. The story was full of negatives about the health of the reef. The Conversation was similarly guarded: โ€œRecord coral cover doesnโ€™t necessarily mean the Great Barrier Reef is in good health (despite what you may have heard).โ€ The Australianโ€™s environment editor, Graham Lloyd, mentioned concerns about recent bleaching events but wrote his report straight without the negative slant applied by many others.

This kind of permanent focus on the negative allows activist journalists to ignore stories that mitigate their preferred disaster narrative.

Hence two recent studies have been largely ignored by the media, even though they confirm a message also ignored by many reporters โ€“ though not Lloyd โ€“ in IPCC6, the infamous Code Red for the Planet report used to hype the Glasgow COP 26 meeting last year. This was the IPCCโ€™s explicit warning that most climate models were running far too hot.

The journal Climate Dynamics in September published two studies โ€“ one by Nicola Scafetta and the other by Nic Lewis โ€“ examining equilibrium climate sensitivity that both narrow and reduce the range of warming effects of carbon dioxide on global temperatures.

Writing on Judith Curryโ€™s Climate Etc. blog, Scafetta outlines how retrofitting actual temperature changes recorded between 1980 and 2021 showed almost all climate models were much hotter than actual records.

This period was chosen because it had the most reliable data and was entirely covered by accurate satellite measurements. In short, Scafetta finds a likely ECS range from 1.6C to 2.7C while Lewis finds 1.7-2.7C. These compare with global circulation model figures used by the IPCC ranging from 1.8C to 5.7C.

Now you might imagine news sources as focused on climate as Guardian Australia, the ABC and The Conversation might like to report such apparently good news, that is indeed in line with what the IPCC said about climate models running too hot.

But no.

Scafetta has been criticised previously by the RealClimate website for his earlier study on models predicting more warming than noticed in the real world. My point is not whether Scafetta and Evans are right or RealClimate is right. Rather that if Scafetta had been pushing a more scary scenario most left-wing journalists would have reported his study.

Readers interested in how the media and government bureaucrats bend accurate science should call up a fascinating paper on the Global Warming Policy Foundation website โ€“ Chinese Whispers: How climate science gets lost in translation. Retired physics professor Ralph B. Alexanders traces the processes by which largely accurate science in the IPCC 6 assessment report was polluted by bureaucrats adding incorrect statements for political reasons and how these were then overheated as press releases that ran in the media.

Dr Alexander shows how false media reports that the earthโ€™s climate had not heated as quickly โ€œin hundreds of thousands of yearsโ€ as it did in the last 100 were not made in the original assessment report. He describes attempts to remove evidence of the Medieval Warming and the Little Ice Age (around 1650) from the summary for policymakers. The subsequent apparent uninterrupted warming was then amplified in press releases.

Yet things get even worse for accurate news judgments when environment writers start reporting about power generation and the global use of fossil fuels. As this column often observes, many journalists fail to acknowledge the need for backup and greatly expanded network infrastructure to firm unreliable power.

Or try getting anyone at the Guardian Australian or ABC to tell the truth about soaring global coal use and prices. Reflect on the words of Chinese leader Xi Jinping at the National Congress of the Communist Party of China last week.

Bloomberg reported his speech kicking off the Congress. Xi โ€œsaid that prudence would govern Chinaโ€™s efforts to peak and eventually zero out carbon emissionsโ€.

Bloomberg said Xiโ€™s speech โ€œmade Chinaโ€™s path to decarbonisation clear: it wonโ€™t stop burning fossil fuels until itโ€™s confident that clean energy can reliably replace themโ€. Sounds more sensible than our politicians.

โ€œWe will advance initiatives to reach peak carbon emissions in a well planned and phased way, in line with the principle of getting the new before discarding the old,โ€ Xi said. A report released after the speech said โ€œChina will also expand exploration and development of oil and gas resources, and increase reserves, as part of measures to ensure energy securityโ€.

China earlier this year announced it would expand annual coal production by 300 million tonnes.

So environment writers claiming the world is facing a โ€œclimate crisisโ€ in 2030 if it does not eliminate carbon dioxide emissions have to explain how growing emissions from the worldโ€™s largest emitter, China, and from the number three and four emitters, India and Russia, which account much of the worldโ€™s increased emissions, can be offset by anything done here.

Truth is emissions rose 6 per cent globally last year and will rise again this year.

CHRIS MITCHELL
COLUMNIST

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 24, 2022 11:26 am

That Russian ejection seat worked as advertised.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 24, 2022 11:27 am

Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:

October 24, 2022 at 11:15 am

being reckless as to whether she was consenting.

Any of the bush lawyers on the Cat care to explain that one?ย 

It means having a self-serve root with a chick who is semi-conscious or totally passed out.
See also, Cosby, William Henry Jnr.

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 24, 2022 11:28 am

Professor Peter Newman from Curtin University
One of ALPBC Perthโ€™s favourite panty bunchers. Rent-a-quote on all the usual subjects.

He’s been working the Green scam for at least 50 years. I used to know him.

Roger
Roger
October 24, 2022 11:28 am

โ€œI donโ€™t mind hearing from the players,โ€ Ms Plibersek said.

โ€œI think theyโ€™ve got a right to express their opinionsโ€ฆ

I don’t recall her speaking up for Israel Folau.

One suspects Tanya only wants to hear opinions she agrees with aired in the public square.

132andBush
132andBush
October 24, 2022 11:28 am

The โ€œbetter pollsโ€ are from firms who are gun shy about under-sampling Republicans given recent results, and thus have their thumbs on the scale now to make sure they donโ€™t make that mistake again. We shall see if they are making the opposite mistake this time. Either way, you canโ€™t trust the polls at this point.

Do you have proof of this or is it just something you’re “feeling in your waters”?
I’m guessing the latter.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
October 24, 2022 11:29 am

The biggest fraud and corrupt actions in the pandemic were allowing mRNA genetic materials to be legally defined as vaccines. “Defining COVID-19 mRNA vaccines as pharmaceutical drugs has straightforward implications for their pharmacodynamic, pharmacokinetic, clinical and post-marketing safety assessment. Only an accurate characterization of COVID-19
mRNA vaccines as pharmaceutical drugs will guarantee safe, rational, and individualized use of these products.โ€

So said a new brilliant and courageous analysis from Italian researchers at the Center for Research in Medical Pharmacology, University of Insubria that should be required reading by all in the medical and public health establishment. The title is โ€œUnderstanding the Pharmacology of COVID-19 mRNA Vaccines: Playing Dice with the Spike?โ€

https://www.trialsitenews.com/a/covid-vaccines-are-really-drugs-d479cd56

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 24, 2022 11:30 am

being reckless as to whether she was consenting.
Any of the bush lawyers on the Cat care to explain that one? Inquiring minds want to know.

Itโ€™s asking a chick, โ€œHow about a root?โ€ but not waiting till you get an answer.

132andBush
132andBush
October 24, 2022 11:31 am

The typical โ€˜Metroโ€™ fire truck carries less water than a โ€˜Countryโ€™ truck and cant โ€˜pump and rollโ€™.

Very expensive quickfills.

Real Deal
Real Deal
October 24, 2022 11:32 am

Lisa Wilkinson weighs in with a “truth bomb” showing all the moral authority that a failing The Project host can muster.

โ€˜Really naiveโ€™: Lisa Wilkinson drops netball truth bomb
Lisa Wilkinson has lashed a โ€œnaiveโ€ claim from mining magnate Gina Rinehart as the netball sponsorship furore took another twist.

Lisa Wilkinson has lashed suggestions from Gina Rinehart that sport and politics can be separated as netballโ€™s sponsorship crisis continues to swirl.

Wilkinson on Sunday night dropped a truth bomb on the mining magnate and her Hancock Prospecting company after the iron ore giant suddenly tore up its $15 million deal with Netball Australia on Saturday.

The popular TV host told The Project Rinehartโ€™s claims were clueless.

It comes as the scandal took another turn on Sunday night with revelations Indigenous netball star Donnell Wallam has been left distressed and devastated by Hancock Prospectingโ€™s bombshell exit from the sport.

Wallam was at the centre of player pushback to the proposed sponsorship with reports she was uncomfortable with wearing the Hancock Prospecting logo on her uniform for her Diamonds debut against England on Wednesday night.

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The 28-year-oldโ€™s concerns revolve around comments made by Rinehartโ€™s father Lang Hancock in the 1980s that sterilisation should be used to solve โ€˜the Aboriginal problemโ€™.

Gina Rinehart has never made any public comments on her late fatherโ€™s views.

However in the face of intense pressure, Wallam decided on Friday she would wear the logo on her uniform for her international debut.

In the end all Wallamโ€™s deliberations and soul-searching were in vain as Hancock Prospecting withdrew its funding a day after the goal shooter made it clear she would wear the logo.

The shock decision by Rinehartโ€™s company, which came along with a scathing statement from the mining magnate, left Wallam devastated according to reports.

It is the secondary statement issued by Rinehartโ€™s company that Wilkinson took aim at on Sunday night.

โ€œThe idea that sport and politics and issues of social justice can be completely separated is really naive,โ€ she said.

โ€œYou think back to the Australian teams that wouldnโ€™t tour South Africa during the Apartheid era. You even think about things like big tobacco used to sponsor the NRL. It was called the Winfield Cup.โ€

Co-host Hamish Macdonald compared it to recent sporting scandals where Sea Eagles players refused to wear a one-off rainbow Pride jersey on religious grounds, while Andrew Thorburn last month resigned as Essendon chief executive after one day as a result of links to a Christian church that previously published comments which equated abortion with concentration camps and claimed โ€œpractising homosexuality is a sinโ€.

Macdonald said he was โ€œsurprisedโ€ the organisations had failed to address the divide before it played out in public.

โ€œIn each of those circumstances it seems like the club or the code hasnโ€™t quite done enough thinking about the culture within the organisation or the sport and had the conversations that might be necessary to make those things possible,โ€ he said.

โ€œYou know, obviously the points made here, why didnโ€™t they have a conversation about discussing what had been said in the past?

โ€œAnd dealing with that up front. I mean, you can understand how for an Indigenous player it would be very difficult to wear a logo like that.โ€

The mining giant stuck the boot in further, saying โ€œHancock and its executive chairman Mrs Rinehart consider that it is unnecessary for sports organisations to be used as the vehicle for social or political causesโ€.

โ€œFirstly, because sport is at its best when it is focused on good and fair competition, with dedicated athletes striving for excellence to achieve their sporting dreams and to represent our country at their very best,โ€ the statement said.

โ€œSecondly, because there are more targeted and genuine ways to progress social or political causes without virtue signalling or for self-publicity. For example, the meaningful engagement with local Indigenous communities undertaken by Hancockโ€™s Roy Hill Community Foundation in West Australia to support their actual needs.

Lisa Wilkinson was not having it. Photo: Darrion Traynor, Getty Images.
Lisa Wilkinson was not having it. Photo: Darrion Traynor, Getty Images.
โ€œThirdly, because there are more impactful means to make a beneficial difference. For example, Hancockโ€™s holistic support for real programs including Hanrine Futures โ€” that are providing a true pathway for Indigenous students through education and into employment where they are guaranteed a job should they wish, at the end of their training.โ€

Rinehartโ€™s earlier statement said she only wanted to continue the partnership if players had pride in wearing the companyโ€™s logo.

โ€œThe reality is that sponsorship is integral to sports organisations — for full-time professionals right through to young children at the grassroots level โ€” who rely on corporations investing the funds that enable all sports to not only survive, but thrive.

โ€œSadly, recent media does not help encourage sporting sponsorships. What can be lacking is a sufficient connection between sponsorship funds and the athletes themselves, with money unnecessarily wasted on administration and related costs. Which is why Hancock has, and will continue to insist, that the funds it provides to any sports it sponsors are spent on and for the athletes.

โ€œNeither Hancock nor Mrs Rinehart have ever requested or insisted that athletes provide any thank you videos or messages โ€” although thank you videos and messages have certainly been received. Hancock and Mrs Rinehart would only ever want athletes to wear the Hancock logo if the athletes were proud to do so.

โ€œRecent media misreporting has been disappointing, particularly given at no stage did Hancock insist its logo be worn on the Australian Diamondsโ€˜ playing dress for the recent games in New Zealand, nor did the Australian Diamonds refuse to wear the Hancock logo.โ€

Netball Australia Players Association boss Kathryn Harby-Williams was scathing of the decision by netballโ€™s administrators not to give Wallam an exemption allowing her to not wear the logo.

โ€œIn the end Donnell sought an exemption for herself and that wasnโ€™t forthcoming because there was a meeting during the week, last week, where it was made very clear that no exemptions would be given to any of the players,โ€ Harby-Williams told ABC Grandstand.

โ€œAnd that was a disappointing moment because the players thought at the very least that Donnell would be granted an exemption at that point in time.

โ€œOne of our First Nations players had a conscientious objection to just three games to ask for an exemption in the end not to wear that logo โ€ฆ thereโ€™s a precedence in other sports where exemptions been given. I would have thought and hoped for Donnell that exemption would be provided.

โ€œIt got to the point where Donnell was then actually going to agree to wear the dress and that was simply because the pressure was too much for her to bear and as a sport I think that should be extremely disappointing for everybody.โ€

Harby-Williams said the unrelenting pressure ahead of Saturdayโ€™s bombshell announcement almost saw Wallam decide to stand down from her stance and wear the Hancock Prospecting logo.

โ€œIt got to the point where Donnell was going to agree to wear the dress because the pressure was too much to bear,โ€ Harby-Williams said.

โ€œAs a sport, I think that should be extremely disappointing for everybody because we need to do better and be inclusive, with no fear of reprisal.โ€

After a week of controversy, Hancock Prospecting finally pulled the plug, saying in a statement on Saturday that it had โ€œnot been made awareโ€ of the issues between Netball Australia and the Players Association and did โ€œnot wish to add to netballโ€™s disunity problemsโ€.

Netball Australia said on Saturday it was โ€œdisappointedโ€ by the decision.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 24, 2022 11:35 am

At last the MSM have DeSantis now.

Hit Piece on Ron DeSantis’ College Years Drops, and I Can’t Stop Laughing (23 Oct)

While Gov. Ron DeSantis cruises to re-election in Florida, the press is doing its best to make his race against Charlie Crist somewhat competitive. They tried their hardest after Hurricane Ian hit, but DeSantisโ€™ extreme competence quickly took that story off the front pages. But alas a fresh hit piece has dropped, and it may be the funniest thing Iโ€™ve ever seen printed by a supposed news outlet. According to the Financial Times, DeSantis once used the phrase โ€œthigh foodโ€ while in college in place of โ€œThai food.โ€ I know, itโ€™s horrific stuff.

Hot off the presses! Very hot. He’s so gone. Monty will be doing backflips of joy.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 24, 2022 11:37 am

The Missus steps into the Pirateโ€™s shoes (boots?).

Winston Smith
October 24, 2022 11:39 am

Snatcho Panzer:

How many radiation deaths occurred outside, say, a 50km radius of Chernobyl?
And how many packets of salt and vinegar chips did it take to keep them safe?

I’ve looked at several studies and the results from them are not consistent.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 24, 2022 11:40 am

Just thought people would like to know ABC kids channel, the ad for Play School story time has decided to put an obvious tranny as one of the features on the ad.

Because its current year, and kids need to see a tranny every 1/2 hr ad break or they might not seem normal.

duncanm
duncanm
October 24, 2022 11:41 am

unnecessary for sports organisations to be used as the vehicle for personal social or political causes

Added a bit, which I think is important.

These are not the political causes of the association or majority of players. They are singular, personal political causes.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 24, 2022 11:44 am

Air hellair!

m0nty
October 24, 2022 11:47 am

Do you have proof of this or is it just something youโ€™re โ€œfeeling in your watersโ€?

It’s a thing. Politico and Vox have covered it, among many others.

Don Levy, director of the Siena College Research Institute, said he is being โ€œas careful as careful can beโ€ to increase the share of Trump voters, both in their sampling (who gets called to participate) and weighting (making them count for more after the interviews are conducted in order to fix their underrepresentation). Itโ€™s not enough, Levy said, to just call more Republicans, since itโ€™s a specific kind of Republican whom they are struggling to reach.

โ€œItโ€™s not partisan nonresponse. Itโ€™s hardened Trump-backer nonresponse,โ€ said Levy. โ€œA small majority of those are self-identified Republicans, but a significant number of them are self-identified independents or Democrats. You canโ€™t correct that by saying, โ€˜Letโ€™s weight up the Republicans.โ€™ That doesnโ€™t work.โ€

They may get it right this time, but there’s always a danger they overcorrect.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 24, 2022 11:49 am

Politico and Vox eh.
ROFL.

Roger
Roger
October 24, 2022 11:50 am

Thank you, Roger. That is a very fine essay indeed.

Glad you appreciated it, dover.

As you will have picked up, it apples to ostensibly centre-right parties in the anglosphere generally.

Roger
Roger
October 24, 2022 11:53 am

Americans: We canโ€™t afford food

Many might also soon be freezing.

New England states hold only a third of their usual heating oil supply going into winter.

Lysander
Lysander
October 24, 2022 11:55 am

Good morning from WA!

I see (?) the Britnah jury is still enjoying doughnuts, coffee and free lunches?

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
October 24, 2022 11:56 am

sancho, feelthebern and gabor – thank you for your advice and opinions.
Grand-daughter got to her try-out shift at 6am today in the pouring rain, worked 4 hours, and got the job.
“80% of success is showing up” – Woody Allen (apparently).

win
win
October 24, 2022 11:57 am

There is an old adage that you don’t bight the hand that feeds you that really does apply to sportsmen and women who want the luxuries of life. It was a magnificent publicity stunt that back fired. It was nice of Ginas other Indigenous assisted programs to have come to her defence and nice publicity for them.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 24, 2022 12:01 pm

Rinehart says:

โ€œHancock and its executive chairman Mrs Rinehart consider that it is unnecessary for sports organisations to be used as the vehicle for social or political causesโ€.

Wilkinson hears:

โ€œThe idea that sport and politics and issues of social justice can be completely separated is really naive,โ€

Dimbo.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 24, 2022 12:02 pm

These are not the political causes of the association or majority of players. They areย singular, personalย political causes.

That is the risk facing sponsors now.
A tiny minority can blow up your sponsorship investment in five minutes. Cummins and Norder have turned a low risk/high leverage promotional spend into a potential cash bonfire for sponsors.
So what do sponsors now do?
Well they probably avoid providing funding to the sporting codes, and cherry-pick individual players to represent them on watertight contracts.
Surely the codes will stop that, right?
Well, no.
They won’t be able to. They’ve already cultivated a culture of “mah rights” among players which they will be unable to turn off.
Example – Toyota sponsor the AFL. What are they going to do if a star player signs a yuuge deal with Tesla because climate?
Nothing, that’s what.
And then Toyota says, “Fuck it, we’re out” (or whatever the equivalent is in Japanese).
They other alternative is to simply buy advertising slots within sports broadcasts.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 24, 2022 12:05 pm

OSC.
Good news.
My advice would now be on the lookout for any sign that “free effort” will become standard.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 24, 2022 12:07 pm

being reckless as to whether she was consenting.

Any of the bush lawyers on the Cat care to explain that one? Inquiring minds want to know.

Not pressing down hard enough on the triplicate paper for notarised consent?

The JP witnessing the carnal act is distracted by the cricket part way through?

Or the classic “dressing up like batman and jumping off the wardrobe onto your partner (sort of a reverse game of quoits)

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 24, 2022 12:10 pm

Politico and Vox eh.
ROFL.

We are waiting to see what Teh Atlantic have to say.

Real Deal
Real Deal
October 24, 2022 12:13 pm

The issue of sponsorship is handled much differently today. In the 90s the Manly Sea Eagles were sponsored by Pepsi. When they won a pre-season comp sponsored by Coke, their sponsor was allowed as well as there players celebrating by drinking Pepsi.

Back in the 80s I went to a motor sport race in NSW where the winner, Allan Moffat was sponsored by an oil company (BP) that was different to the race sponsor’s oil (Castrol). He acknowledged the competition and thanked them for their sponsorship of the race. That sort of graciousness wouldn’t happen in today’s professional sport.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 24, 2022 12:13 pm

A sporting administration body chock-full of women.
A players’ association chock full of women.
Players? Women.

Major sponsor? Woman.

‘And everyone lived happily ever after because everyone involved had all that empathy that men do not have, and all were gill-full of the compassion and peacefulness and the ability to bring disagreeing parties together and move forward that women are known for, and everyone went to Heaven – arm in arm, and in oestregen-fuelled harmony.’

Like fuck. This train wreck should have been visible a continent away.

Real Deal
Real Deal
October 24, 2022 12:13 pm

Their players, not there!

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 24, 2022 12:14 pm

Or the classic โ€œdressing up like batman and jumping off the wardrobe onto your partner (sort of a reverse game of quoits)

Dressing up as Batman?
Sometimes I feel so sheltered and inadequate.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 24, 2022 12:16 pm

Dr Who Now Dr Poo-Driller.

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2022/oct/23/jodie-whittaker-david-tennant-ncuti-gatwa-doctor-who-power-of-the-doctor-bbc-centenary-special

The actor is not only black (gasp!!!) but his acting credentials are as a cock sheath on one of those “this was cutting edge 30 years ago” pervert shows.

duncanm
duncanm
October 24, 2022 12:16 pm

Like fuck. This train wreck should have been visible a continent away.

You make a very good point KD.

It would have helped if they all agreed to settle it in a jelly wrestling comp. (Gina excepted).

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 24, 2022 12:16 pm

Wilkinson on Sunday night dropped a truth bomb on the mining magnate and her Hancock Prospecting company after the iron ore giant suddenly tore up its $15 million deal with Netball Australia on Saturday.

I rather think Gina was the one who dropped a truth bomb, what is the word for next level ‘fuck you’ money?

revelations Indigenous netball star Donnell Wallam has been left distressed and devastated by Hancock Prospectingโ€™s bombshell exit from the sport….Wallam was at the centre of player pushback to the proposed sponsorship

Clueless, meet cluebat..

Rinehartโ€™s earlier statement said she only wanted to continue the partnership if players had pride in wearing the companyโ€™s logo.

Indeed – you SJWs do support ‘pride jerseys’ and ‘pride rounds’ don’t you??

John H.
John H.
October 24, 2022 12:20 pm

Sancho Panzersays:
October 24, 2022 at 12:02 pm
These are not the political causes of the association or majority of players. They are singular, personal political causes.

That is the risk facing sponsors now.

Yep. I just read an article that made that point.

Sponsorship expert Paul Kind told the columnist that many corporations would think twice before sponsoring teams in future out of fear of a similar controversy arising.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 24, 2022 12:20 pm

The jury in the trial for the man accused of raping Brittany Higgins at Parliament House has sent a note to the judge as they enter a fresh day of deliberations.

Court reconvened at 10am on Monday, with ACT Supreme Court Chief Justice Lucy McCallum reading the note out before the court.

โ€œWe have not yet reached an agreement of beyond reasonable doubt,โ€ the note said.

Chief Justice McCallum said the jurors had asked the court for a โ€œlittle extra timeโ€ to complete their deliberations.

Slightly opaque note.

C.L.
C.L.
October 24, 2022 12:21 pm

The jury in the Kyle Daniels swim coach panic case has been discharged.

Presumably, this means he will now face a THIRD trial because he has ‘only’ been acquitted of 10 of the 21 charges so far.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 24, 2022 12:23 pm

โ€œThe idea that sport and politics and issues of social justice can be completely separated is really naive,โ€

The idea that sport and politics and issues of funding can be completely separated is really naive.
I fixes it for Lisa!

The Left tends not to donate towards sport since they expect the Government to pay for everything. The Right won’t watch or donate to woke sport. You burn a candle from both ends and you end up with not much candle.

C.L.
C.L.
October 24, 2022 12:23 pm

โ€œWe have not yet reached an agreement of beyond reasonable doubt,โ€ the note said.

Yet? I’m not sure they understand their duty.
If they haven’t “reached” it, there is reasonable doubt.
Acquit.

rickw
rickw
October 24, 2022 12:24 pm

Myford VMB mill for SA Cats.

(IIRC the Myford mills were made in Taiwan, a bit of badge engineering by Myford in their last gasps.)

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/mypolonga/other-tools-diy/myford-vm-b-milling-machine/1303030475

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 24, 2022 12:25 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2022/oct/23/salman-rushdie-has-lost-sight-in-one-eye-and-use-of-one-hand-says-agent

Geez he did cop a flogging.

Until now, the full extent of Rushdieโ€™s injuries had been unclear. But in an interview with Spainโ€™s El Paรญs, Andrew Wylie explained how serious and life-changing the attack had been.

โ€œ[His wounds] were profound, but heโ€™s [also] lost the sight of one eye,โ€ said Wylie. โ€œHe had three serious wounds in his neck. One hand is incapacitated because the nerves in his arm were cut. And he has about 15 more wounds in his chest and torso. So, it was a brutal attack.โ€

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 24, 2022 12:25 pm

It would have helped if they all agreed to settle it in a jelly wrestling comp. (Gina excepted).

You would have a bet on Gina and go to the pub or finding something else to do.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 24, 2022 12:28 pm

Further, the false flag angle and the lack of curiosity of the Western MSM only adds to this worry.

There is certainly some back channel message traffic setting up the possibility

duncanm
duncanm
October 24, 2022 12:29 pm

โ€œWe have not yet reached an agreement of beyond reasonable doubt,โ€ the note said.

That suggests that they are moving towards the goal of ‘guilty’.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 24, 2022 12:31 pm

If they havenโ€™t โ€œreachedโ€ it, there is reasonable doubt.
Acquit.

100%.

Of course, they could be working backwards from ‘guilty’ to ‘reasonable doubt’.

Lysander
Lysander
October 24, 2022 12:32 pm

A jury deliberating for what is now a 4th day tells me there’s reasonable doubt.

If there weren’t, they surely be done by now?

duncanm
duncanm
October 24, 2022 12:34 pm

I think the sticking point is ‘universal reasonable doubt’.

ie: convincing the #meetoo’ers on the panel.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 24, 2022 12:34 pm

incoherent ramblersays:
October 24, 2022 at 10:25 am
โ€ฆ
And all thatโ€™s even before you get into the โ€œadjustmentsโ€ they made to the temperature series. They should be privatized, stick to weather and be kept right away from climate change stuff.

Indeed.
The problem with the data remains. The unadulterated data in many places and time frames is no longer available.
The custodians of the raw data have thrown the raw data away.

I wonder did the Bureau of Mangling Data get the approval of the National Archives before destroying the raw data? Destruction of official Commonwealth records?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 24, 2022 12:34 pm

We are waiting to see what Teh Atlantic have to say.

They’ve managed to spawn their very own satire site.

The Pacific

I have no idea who’s behind it but they’re pretty good.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 24, 2022 12:36 pm

Winston Smithsays:
October 24, 2022 at 10:31 am
Boambee John:

Quadrant is a good cause, but Gina could do far more for conservatism by taking over Womensโ€™ Weekly and New Idea, sacking most of the current writers, and installing some better ones.

Honestly, I think WW and NI are well past their salvageable value.
Better off buying one of the 7/9/10 networks and doing the Rabz Stomp on one of them.
I reckon one of them would do well with new Management and Programming.

Women need to be targeted in the material they now read.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 24, 2022 12:39 pm

Better off buying one of the 7/9/10 networks and doing the Rabz Stomp on one of them.
I reckon one of them would do well with new Management and Programming.

I don’t think Gina is interested in buying into dying old-school media after the Fewfacts bunfight.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 24, 2022 12:40 pm

H B Bearsays:
October 24, 2022 at 10:46 am
monty, I hazard a guess, gets the vibe of whatโ€™s going on in the US from ABCโ€™s Planet America.

Not forgetting โ€œtrusted bloggersโ€.

He used “chatter on lefty blogs” as a source during Muellerween.

shatterzzz
October 24, 2022 12:40 pm

โ€œThe idea that sport and politics and issues of social justice can be completely separated is really naive,โ€
And now that we have the woke media falling over themselves to promote individual whinges into full team protests it’s gonna happen a lot more .. the solution is for several big donors to bail out until various sports prima donnas learn .. the game itself is bigger than the individual player ..

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 24, 2022 12:41 pm

He used โ€œchatter on lefty blogsโ€ as a source during Muellerween.

How did that work out?

m0nty
October 24, 2022 12:42 pm

One of the outcomes of this war is that Russia is going to end up closer to Turkey, Iran, and China then before and this will mutually benefit all of the countries involved.

It is curious that the Western right is now aligning itself with that axis. I mean, good for you for rejecting Bush-era warmongery after all those years of cheerleading, but do you have to go all the way to supporting the enemy? I guess you can’t let those pom-poms just sit there.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 24, 2022 12:45 pm

mUnty now reaching Special Ed levels of self beclownment.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 24, 2022 12:46 pm

Winston Smithsays:
October 24, 2022 at 11:19 am
I will admit to monty being right on this one occasion.

If anyone thinks they know for sure how the midterms are going to pan out at this point, theyโ€™re delusional.

There is no logical way of predicting what happens.

With great confidence, I predict much DemonRat cheating. I am, however, unable to predict whether it will be enough.

Lysander
Lysander
October 24, 2022 12:48 pm

Any forecasts/tips on Chumbers budget tomoz? We usually see Labor Labor Labor dishing out cash for stupid programs but not sure we’re going to see that this time around…

(except green “energy” tosh)…

Perhaps it’ll be Swan-esque with govt forecasting a surplus in 23/4? ๐Ÿ˜›

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 24, 2022 12:52 pm

Lysandersays:
October 24, 2022 at 12:48 pm
Any forecasts/tips on Chumbers budget tomoz?

This morning they were talking about “savings”.
Which in ALP-speak means taxes.
I think “da rich” are gonna cop it.

Lysander
Lysander
October 24, 2022 12:52 pm

The Peoples Pundit is predicting the Reds will pick up 40 House seats and between 3-5 Senate seats.

I admit I was skeptical until I saw the Gallup Poll over the weekend…single women, for example, have gone from +17% for the Kleptocrapts to +14% for the Reds…this is what happens when you make grocery shopping an exotic lifestyle option.

So, even with the ballot stuffing and “mail ins” I reckon the reds will take majority of both houses (Senate by 1 IMHO).

Lysander
Lysander
October 24, 2022 12:53 pm

“da rich?”

So… that’s anyone earning over $40K, right?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 24, 2022 12:54 pm

Brandis, no enemies to the left. As usual.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/taking-liberties-with-menzies-politics-betrays-his-life-and-legacy-20221023-p5bs2u.html

Recently, we have seen right-wing elements attempt to conscript Menziesโ€™ name and memory to justify positions which are actually antithetical to his beliefs, and to the purposes for which the Liberal Party was founded. Whether this was done through ignorance or deliberate falsehood โ€“ I suspect an unattractive combination of both โ€“ it was much in evidence at a conference of โ€œconservativeโ€ activists in Sydney recently, modelled on the Trump-influenced American Conservative Political Action Committee โ€“ or CPAC. The star turn at the conference was chief Brexit rabble-rouser Nigel Farage. A number of prominent National Party politicians, including Matt Canavan, also spoke, although the only sitting Liberal politician given a speaking slot was an obscure South Australian backbencher in the Cory Bernardi mould.

At the CPAC conference, one prominent participant โ€“ a federal vice-president of the Liberal Party, no less โ€“ said that โ€œwe should rejoiceโ€ that a number of Liberal seats had been lost to Labor and the teals. Those included MPs like Tim Wilson, Trent Zimmerman and Jason Falinski, classical liberals in the Menzies tradition, who were described as โ€œleftiesโ€, whose defeat was โ€œa good thingโ€.

It isnโ€™t just Paul Keating who wants to destroy Menziesโ€™ creation.

Kneel
Kneel
October 24, 2022 12:55 pm

“If anyone thinks they know for sure how the midterms are going to pan out at this point, theyโ€™re delusional.”

I won’t go as far as to say “for sure”, but the “generic” ballot poles (“would you be more likely to vote Dem or Repub…”) is leaning Republican. Given two things, this is VERY BAD for Dems:
1) when said polling is less than 5% in favour of Dems, they have previously always lost seats (eg 2020);
2) the polling people report they are finding it hard to get Repub voters to respond to the poll – in heavy red areas, they just hang up on them, for instance.

Furthermore, even heavily Dem ares like NY (eg, the mayoral race) is showing as a “close”.
If you look at the polling outfits, many districts have recently changed from “lean Dem” to “likely Repub” and even from “likely Dem” to “toss up”. Even California districts that were D+10 or more look at risk based on the polling – which has finally switched from “registered voters” to “likely voters” (they would normally have switched several weeks earlier than they have this year).

So, no – hardly “for sure”. But it looks really, really bad for Dems.
IMO, they will lose the house by 20+ seats and the senate by as many as 6. Alas, they seem highly unlikely to get a veto-proof majority, so the PINO (President In Name Only) can still sabotage any fixes the repubs can come up with.

Lysander
Lysander
October 24, 2022 12:55 pm

Oh, and if Cats haven’t seen Tucker on Fetterman, you NEED to check it out.

This dude has his brain connected to a computer that interprets words for him because, since his stroke, he can’t understand anything.

I’m not going full-on Manchurian Candidate but fuck me… really!!!???

See 4 minute mark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RX9DcHP4KRk

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 24, 2022 12:56 pm

Winston Smithsays:
October 24, 2022 at 11:19 am
I will admit to monty being right on this one occasion.

If anyone thinks they know for sure how the midterms are going to pan out at this point, theyโ€™re delusional.

There is no logical way of predicting what happens.

If munty got something right it was by accident. He’s a serial wrongoligist. He made a mistake like he does with everything else he says.

Arky
October 24, 2022 12:58 pm

m0nty says:
October 24, 2022 at 12:42 pm
It is curious that the Western right is now aligning itself with that axis. I mean, good for you for rejecting Bush-era warmongery after all those years of cheerleading, but do you have to go all the way to supporting the enemy? I guess you canโ€™t let those pom-poms just sit there.

..
In their addled brains itโ€™s fully justified because Dr Who is now a black homosexual or something.

duncanm
duncanm
October 24, 2022 12:59 pm

The unadulterated data in many places and time frames is no longer available.

not sure if this is true.

The individual station data is available online, and I think unadjusted. Go look at almost any remote station not subject to Urban Heat Island effects and you will see zero temperature trend.
eg: Menindee PO, Wilcannia (though there seems to have been a concrete pad placed close to the screen about 2013 which has up-ticked the temps).

What I like doing is looking at the things they can’t fiddle. Rainfall, evaporation, etc.

None of these show any trends. Pan evaporation is the real giveaway, no?

Lysander
Lysander
October 24, 2022 1:01 pm

Kneel,
the Reds could win more House seats than any other time, ever, in history (247).

The four key telltale signs (that many polls ignore of choose selectively of) are:

-Presidential approval record – this always impacts midterms. Always.
-Generic polling – are registered party members going to vote. Not Dems.
-Right track Vs Wrong track – how do Americans feel the country is going? Not good!
-Voter turnaround – who is going to vote? Dems aren’t motivated by Biden. Period.

So even with a bit of hanky panky with the ballot boxes, it looks like it’ll be a wipe out.

But, here’s hoping!

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 24, 2022 1:02 pm

ABC frothing that allowing the stage 3 tax cuts would add to inflation…
They hate people (other than themselves) having money dont they?

RABZ the lot.

Cassie of Sydney
October 24, 2022 1:07 pm

“At the CPAC conference, one prominent participant โ€“ a federal vice-president of the Liberal Party, no less โ€“ said that โ€œwe should rejoiceโ€ that a number of Liberal seats had been lost to Labor and the teals. Those included MPs like Tim Wilson, Trent Zimmerman and Jason Falinski, classical liberals in the Menzies tradition, who were described as โ€œleftiesโ€, whose defeat was โ€œa good thingโ€.”

Faaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrk.

As to Brandis’ assertion that Trent Zimmerman was a classical liberal in the Menzies tradition, this is the same Zimmerman who, along with Sharma, Archer, Martin and Allen, crossed the floor to vote against “religious freedom”.

You know something, Teena McQueen was right, it’s good, very good, that faux Liberals such as Karma Sharma and Zimmerboy are gone.

And now the Liberal Party of Australia needs to be gone.

Lysander
Lysander
October 24, 2022 1:12 pm

But didn’t Brandis try to get legislation written to allow full, unfettered free speech? (Something we don’t actually have in Australia)… something about “right to be a bigot” but then nothing happened???

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 24, 2022 1:13 pm

the Western right is now aligning itself with that axis

Name names you delusional fatberg.

Isolationism or wishing to not be involved in a war between a pair of assholes killing conscripts (Vlad being more to blame for having started it) is not “aligning’.

Kneel
Kneel
October 24, 2022 1:16 pm

“So even with a bit of hanky panky with the ballot boxes, it looks like itโ€™ll be a wipe out. “

Three key demographics look like they are moving away from Dems:

1) Hispanics are now at 50-50.
2) Blacks are now at 75-25
3) “angry moms” (inflation plus CRT in schools, gender re-assignment etc etc.)

If all three stay as they appear to be, or get even worse, then it won’t be a red wave, it’ll be a red tsunami!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 24, 2022 1:16 pm

Lysandersays:

October 24, 2022 at 12:53 pm

โ€œda rich?โ€

Soโ€ฆ thatโ€™s anyone earning over $40K, right?

I think it is $75k.
In the private sector.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 24, 2022 1:17 pm

Lysandersays:
October 24, 2022 at 1:12 pm

Brandis was instrumental in getting it torpedoed.

His carefully timed and calculated turd dropped into the punchbowl was him at his 2 timing duplicitous worst.
https://newsroom.unsw.edu.au/news/social-affairs/free-speech-often-not-so-free-mr-brandis

Anyone seeing his writings since he was freed from the shackles of having to pretend to be a LINO can only confirm he dropped the comment to cause maximum damage to “his side”.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 24, 2022 1:18 pm

Oh, and if Cats havenโ€™t seen Tucker on Fetterman, you NEED to check it out.

This dude has his brain connected to a computer that interprets words for him because, since his stroke, he canโ€™t understand anything.

Here you go Lysander.

Voters weigh in: PA Senate candidates Dr Oz, John Fetterman set to partake in first debate as Oz closes gap (23 Oct)

Pennsylvania Senate candidates Dr. Oz and John Fetterman are set to face off in their only debate yet on Tuesday as the race continues to narrow with just two weeks to go to the Midterm Elections.

The Dems had to agree to a debate as otherwise they were going to have disastrous headlines for several months. So they agreed to the last possible date, meanwhile hoping Fetterthing would improve. He hasn’t, so now what do they do? I suspect an amazingly convenient attack of heinous bat crud will strike him down terribly, really really terribly, and force his withdrawal.

The idea of him debating Oz is fun but. Alas it’s so not going to happen.

John H.
John H.
October 24, 2022 1:21 pm

thefrollickingmolesays:
October 24, 2022 at 1:17 pm
Lysandersays:
October 24, 2022 at 1:12 pm

Brandis was instrumental in getting it torpedoed.

His carefully timed and calculated turd dropped into the punchbowl was him at his 2 timing duplicitous worst.
https://newsroom.unsw.edu.au/news/social-affairs/free-speech-often-not-so-free-mr-brandis

Anyone seeing his writings since he was freed from the shackles of having to pretend to be a LINO can only confirm he dropped the comment to cause maximum damage to โ€œhis sideโ€.

He used bigot. That was so stupid because the anti-discrimination would have to be abolished and the wider public won’t accept that. Perhaps you are right that he deliberately sabotaged the position. More likely just another brain fart.

Lysander
Lysander
October 24, 2022 1:25 pm

If all three stay as they appear to be, or get even worse, then it wonโ€™t be a red wave, itโ€™ll be a red tsunami!

I find it “funny” the CNN and other fakenews outlets were quoting a 20% lead to the Dems over summer. Everyone knows that (1) The October polls are the most accurate and (2) Republicans don’t poll over summer (usually due to, like, enjoying life and being on holidays etc…)…

Turnip
Turnip
October 24, 2022 1:27 pm

Ladbrokes have reduced betting on US elections down to just NY and GA Governor races.
They had a full list of Senate and Gov races last week and it has been missing since Friday.
Either they have no idea and won’t risk their money, or they do …and have realised they’ve already lost enough.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 24, 2022 1:28 pm

Itโ€™s a thing. Politico and Vox have covered it, among many others.

m0nty-fa chooses two oh-so-unbiased sources for his response.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 24, 2022 1:28 pm

Eyriesays:
October 24, 2022 at 11:26 am
That Russian ejection seat worked as advertised.

As against the American One – Buy Russian

F-16 fighter pilot was killed when his ejection seat malfunctioned and parachute failed to deploy during crash landing

. First Lt. David Schmitz from the 77th Fighter Squadron was performing a routine training mission in a F-16CM Fighting Falcon when he misjudged his landing
. Jet came down too early striking antenna after misinterpreting approach lights
. The collision damaged the aircraft’s landing gear so Schmitz opted to go-around
. Upon discussions with the control tower it was decided he would use an arrest hook to slow the plane down using a steel cable at the end of the runway
. But the plane’s hydraulics systems had been damaged during first landing attempt making it difficult to control
. Upon touching down at 120 knots, Schmitz ejected from the aircraft
. The ejection seat’s parachute failed to deploy sending Schmitz plummeting to earth and killing him instantly
. An accident report revealed it was known the seat was malfunctioning but repairs were deferred for several years due to a lack of parts

bespoke
bespoke
October 24, 2022 1:29 pm

Isolationism or wishing to not be involved in a war between a pair of assholes killing conscripts (Vlad being more to blame for having started it) is not โ€œaligningโ€™.

Indeed!

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 24, 2022 1:33 pm

but do you have to go all the way to supporting the enemy?

I’m old enough to remember when leftards were almost unanimous that the Soviet Union was far, far, better than the west.

Now m0nty-fa has completely switched sides, while ignoring the “plague on both your houses by many conservatives and libertarians.

ROFLMAO, always the side, not the principle with the fascist left.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 24, 2022 1:35 pm

Those included MPs like Tim Wilson, Trent Zimmerman and Jason Falinski, classical liberals in the Menzies tradition, who were described as โ€œleftiesโ€, whose defeat was โ€œa good thingโ€.

Brandis shows his true colours.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 24, 2022 1:41 pm

In “Watch This Space” news.
Romanian tennis player has been banned for doping.
Halep beat Big Serena for the 2019 Wimbledon title.
How long before Bandana-Man type sports commentators start the “growing calls” for Big Serena to be awarded the 2019 Wimbledon title retrospectively?

Kneel
Kneel
October 24, 2022 1:51 pm

“Romanian tennis player has been banned for doping.”

Used to be, they had to hide their testicles.
Now, they just identify as trans.
All good!

Rafiki
Rafiki
October 24, 2022 1:56 pm

The ACT Chief Justice has , unwittingly I suppose, breached the principle that jury deliberations must remain secret. We now know that this jury’s approach to applying the “beyond reasonable doubt” is thoroughly muddled. They may also have a false impression that they must all agree before they can report a conclusion. They don’t of course.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 24, 2022 1:56 pm

Now, they just identify as trans.

Which is fine, as long as their transticles don’t pop out at inopportune moments.

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 24, 2022 1:56 pm

An accident report revealed it was known the seat was malfunctioning but repairs were deferred for several years due to a lack of parts

So you happily send a guy out flying in an aircraft that lands at 120 knots and has one engine where SOP is “if the engine fails – eject”. Wonderful.
Yes, buy Russian ejection seats. When the evil empire collapsed the folks building the Russian K36D seat needed work so they tried to sell it to the US. They were sasked about the success rate which was 93%. The American seat was 75%. The US guys were sceptical but verified that 93% was the right number so the next question was “how much?”. The Russians said we dunno. We just requisition the parts, put then together and deliver to the forces.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjRgCqutacs

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 24, 2022 2:04 pm

Vlad being more to blame for having started it
“Who started it”. Really kind of a silly assertion.
1939 Britain and France declare war on Germany over a guarantee to Poland that they had no means to deliver on.
1964 US attacks North Vietnam after false flag in Gulf of Tonkin.
1967. Israel attacks Arab nations.
etc etc etc.
Now ask “who started it”, again.
Most seem to be a long period of tensions and provocations leading to going kinetic. It may be perfectly sensible to be the first to go kinetic.

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 24, 2022 2:06 pm

Own Goal Department:

Greens senator Lidia Thorpe will refer herself to an inquiry by the parliamentary privileges’ committee over failing to disclose her relationship with a former bikie leader.

Senator Thorpe told Greens MPs in a partyroom meeting on Monday she would refer herself to be scrutinised by the Senate committee.

The Greens partyroom supported her decision.

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Lysander
Lysander
October 24, 2022 2:06 pm

Surely there’s a point in time where the judge calls the jury in and tells them they’ve had enough time, regardless of the vote? Right? Sancho???

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