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Joseph’s Dream, Rembrandt, 1645


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calli
calli
November 29, 2022 5:38 pm

I want to see the Animal Lib people out in force over the animals in the meat skyscraper. Forget the “sow stall” posturing.

If not, why not?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 29, 2022 5:40 pm

Snap Zippy. 😀

Sylvester the cat
Sylvester the cat
November 29, 2022 5:45 pm

Is long pork better if it is free range?

Bob Sewell
November 29, 2022 5:47 pm

The 2nd Amendment was described as a right for use in extremis.
How close to in extremis will we get before we feel the need to act?

How do you go broke?
Slowly at first, then all in a rush.
How do you lose your freedoms?
Slowly at first, then all in a rush.

Meh.

Sylvester the cat
Sylvester the cat
November 29, 2022 5:49 pm

There’re probably a lot of leftovers from the organ harvesting industry.

and sex conversion surgery?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 29, 2022 5:50 pm

Sylvester – The only people I know who could answer that question are in Syria. The Asiatic variety isn’t free range.

Lysander
Lysander
November 29, 2022 5:50 pm

Is long pork better if it is free range?

Don’t go around asking your colleagues if they like a long pork

Sylvester the cat
Sylvester the cat
November 29, 2022 5:53 pm

Thanks for the tip Lysander. Note also,
Commas are important.

Dot
Dot
November 29, 2022 5:57 pm

All of those young Chinese couples mass married on 8/8/88 were all secret Hitlerists, I tells yas!

Dot
Dot
November 29, 2022 5:58 pm

In fact, they were double happiness secret probation garage nasties.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 29, 2022 5:58 pm

Doverlord.

There is beginning to be a bit od a ferment among some of the traditional “allies” of the trans freak brigade.

Julie Blindel one of my favorite equal opportunity offenders of sacred cows has a very good piece today ill try and track down.
This one from another in the gruinids stable is beginning to have the scales fall from its eyes but is still at the “a few bad apples’ stage of denial.
And interestingly, points out the gruinid blocked her from running a story on the organisation.

https://unherd.com/2022/11/mermaids-useful-idiots/

It’s incredibly easy to criticise Susie Green, the influential and, as of Friday, ex-CEO of Mermaids. But I’d like to say this in her defence: she never lied about who she was.

From her early interviews in 2012, when her trans daughter, Jackie, then 19, became a Miss England finalist, Green, then an IT-manager, was utterly open about how she first knew her child was trans: “As a toddler, Jackie always headed for the dolls in toy shops.” And if a four-year-old looking at dolls weren’t evidence enough that this child should be committed to a lifetime of medicalisation, Green added, “[Jackie] loathed having her hair cut.” Green put Jack — as he was then known — on puberty-blockers and flew him to Thailand for a sex change operation when he was 16, making him the youngest person in the world to undergo that surgery.

She merrily recalls in a YouTube interview that because Jack’s penis hadn’t developed due to the blockers, “there wasn’t much for the surgeon to work with” when constructing their vagina. “Sorry, Jackie!” she laughs.
….
Since 2017, I regularly asked editors at the newspaper where I worked if I could write about Mermaids in general and Green specifically, because it was so obvious that something was very wrong here. The answer, always, was no, but the reasons given were fuzzy: it wouldn’t be right in that section, they couldn’t see the news peg, it felt too niche. A more likely reason was one articulated to me with some passion on social media any time I tweeted anything sceptical about Green or Mermaids: to question either was to wish trans children would die. Doubt the charity, hate the cause, in other words. Weirdly, this attitude seems to hold true only for charities connected to trans issues: no one, as far as I know, screamed that The Times hates starving people when they investigated Oxfam in 2018 about allegations that some of its workers paid for sex.

Whole article is worth a read.

Rorschach
Rorschach
November 29, 2022 5:59 pm

And if he drops CIA/FBI and other alphabet/foreign agency “requests” it might be epic

That may be why Musk got the warning shot across the bow from Tim Cook… i.e. a hint that that’s a line in the sand you don’t want to cross

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 29, 2022 6:07 pm

Ahyone got any funnelwebs?

Australian Reptile Park on the look out for Funnel Web Spiders | NBN News (27 Nov)

I’m impressed by a guy who does an interview with a whole wall of live poisonous spiders behind him.

Here at the Cafe there are very few spiders since the noisies have eaten them. I no longer get coastal greys or orb spiders. Still are a few small green ones around as the noisy miners arrive with them in their beaks, on the way to feed their kids. Which lets me add a tiny bit of bread and a shred of mince to go with the green spider. Italian food today!

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 29, 2022 6:10 pm

duncanmsays:
November 29, 2022 at 5:28 pm
Anyone here buy/eat Made in Chyna pork?

sure its pork?

Long pig?

m0nty
m0nty
November 29, 2022 6:10 pm

Leon should ask Zuck how it goes when you pick a fight with Apple. Hint: Meta pays Apple a lot of money these days.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
November 29, 2022 6:11 pm

He always struck me as a weather vane and a pretentious lightweight.

– Noel Pearson in a nutshell

Old bloke
Old bloke
November 29, 2022 6:12 pm

He (Joseph) died at a ripe old age, after telling them that they would eventually leave Egypt and that they must take his bones with them to the Promised Land.

And they did.

They did indeed, and he is buried in Shechem, near Nabulus.

His earlier burial site in Egypt has been discovered in Goshen, the Nile delta area. It’s interesting that he was a red-head, the Hebrew slaves shown in the ancient Egyptian murals have a range of hair colours, from blondes to red heads to dark brown which came no doubt from the varied women the Hebrew men took for wives, even King David from Judah was a red-head.

Joseph’s tomb in Shechem was vandalised some years ago by some ‘Palestinian’ people who like destroying things. Two men, a Jewish Rabbi and a Druze soldier in the IDF, died trying to protect Joseph’s tomb. Joseph’s sons are scattered throughout the English speaking world, none of his descendants stood to protect their father’s tomb, most probably wouldn’t know and wouldn’t care.

Palestinians attack biblical figure Joseph’s tomb in West Bank

Bob Sewell
November 29, 2022 6:15 pm

Bruce O’Newk:

The joys of owning an EV

So nobody makes hybrids any more?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 29, 2022 6:19 pm

Heres the Bindel piece on the trans promoters.

She of the old school penis dodgers, and is quite old testament in her calls for retribution.

https://spectator.com.au/2022/11/where-did-it-all-go-wrong-for-trans-charity-mermaids/

Mermaids has found itself under scrutiny after deciding to bring a case against the LGB Alliance, the only UK-based organisation that focuses exclusively on same-sex attracted people. Mermaids claims it was not, in fact, established to support lesbians, gay men and bisexuals — but rather to discredit and disband trans charities like itself. The outrageous claims and questions by Mermaids witnesses and counsel during the tribunal, such as asking if lesbians can have penises, and suggesting that the term ‘same sex attraction’ is ‘exclusionary’, has led to many individuals asking hard questions about the organisation.


That children who feel uncomfortable in their own bodies are trans and should be put forward for puberty blockers and sex change surgery will surely will go down as the biggest medical scandal since Thalidomide.

Whatever is happening within Mermaids, I hope every single person and organisation that offered it unconditional support, and ignored the red flags and warnings, are lying awake at night in dread. Their role in this will not go unnoticed when the truth comes out.

Recently, the Charity Commission opened a regulatory compliance case into Mermaids after a number of complaints that it fails to safeguard young people. I would call for a police investigation into its practices, as well as a public inquiry. Susie Green’s departure is only the beginning. Mermaids must fall.

Lysander
Lysander
November 29, 2022 6:19 pm

Thanks for the link Oldie… I’ll have a read for sure!

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 29, 2022 6:21 pm

Yeah, just clicked on Zycon’s link to Biden’s drag queen luggage stealer, and there it was again.
What is it with these new sorts of suitcases, all of them hard cased and difficult to push into a car boot?

Hairy and I went shopping yesterday for a new suitcase because the zip on our big old faithful blue Samsonite is looking like giving out on our next trip. It needed my careful ministrations to keep going in the US recently. We went to DJ’s – all of the suitcases were like plastic trunks. Then to Myer, the same. Then to a suitcase place, ditto. Very few suitcases with soft covers and zips, and only smaller ones.
All the main brands have moved to the hard stuff. I’ve never liked it when Samsonite were the first the make that move, and now there is nothing else.

Wot is going on? First world problem of course, and I did see quite a snazzy one for $785 but I’d prefer what used to be the ordinary soft but extendable zipper sort you could get about .. um … must be eight years ago now.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 29, 2022 6:24 pm

Oh, and they’ve all got four wheels now, not two.

I almost can’t count the number of people I’ve had to assist to tilt their four-wheelers to pull along two-wheels when their four wheels were becoming unmanageable.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 29, 2022 6:24 pm

It is very rare for a definition in Urban Dictionary to be anything other than prurient fantasies of pubescent boys counting down the days until they get laid

I have always found it a most helpful reference and window on the zeitgeist. Also trusted bloggers.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 29, 2022 6:24 pm

Christmas time!

WaPo Tells Americans To Eat Bugs As They Can No Longer Afford Traditional Seasonal Dinners (29 Nov)

“The Washington Post advised Americans Sunday that instead of a traditional season dinner, which now is unaffordable for a quarter of families, they should instead look to eating bugs. … In an article headlined “Salted ants. Ground crickets. Why you should try edible insects”, the Post stated “Consumers can already find foods like salted ants on Amazon and cricket powder protein bars in Swiss grocery stores.”

The piece quoted a six year old girl in Pennsylvania who was supposedly given a rousing ovation by onlookers for eating fried worms.

The piece states “It’s not that bad!” she exclaimed. “It kind of tastes like kettle corn!” “

Hopefully WaPo serves nothing but insects and vegetables to their staff in their canteen.
Democracy Dies in Darkness, after which you eat bugs and like it.

(The WaPo photo is surreal btw.)

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 29, 2022 6:25 pm

Suitcases have also become more pricey, and it’s not just inflation. It’s the type they make.

Roger
Roger
November 29, 2022 6:26 pm

Miriam Hechtman and Guy Shalvi wanted to do their bit for the environment so when the time came for a new car, an electric vehicle (EV) was their first choice.

Suckers.

Zipster
November 29, 2022 6:27 pm

get some porkcockroaches on your fork!

Roger
Roger
November 29, 2022 6:31 pm

Either that or they merely wanted to signal their environmental concern by driving an EV.

But if they really wanted to do their bit for the environment they’d ride a bicycle, walk or catch public transport or “offset” their Uber rides by buying trees soemwhere.

Eyrie
Eyrie
November 29, 2022 6:32 pm

In Adolf Gallands book on the fighter arm of the Luftwaffe, after the “Pilots Revolt” in 1944, they formed a squadron of experts flying the Me 262 and FW 190d.

There was a short strike by the Me 262 test pilots – probably the only strike that didn’t end in the sound of a firing squad in the Third Reich. One of their number got shot down by a Thunderbolt and as the test pilots were civilians the MK108 30 mm cannons weren’t allowed to be loaded. The strikers demanded that they were and so it was done.

Zipster
November 29, 2022 6:32 pm

Is long pork better if it is free range?

cage farmed in china

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
November 29, 2022 6:34 pm

“The time for complete and utter renewal of the Party has arrived. Make no mistake, the deadwood needs to go and if they don’t then will need to be removed,” one senior Liberal said.
“The Liberal Party (has) a clear choice. Either renew, rebuild and head towards the centre ground of politics or move further to the fringes of society.
“Elections are won in the middle by engaging with the mainstream and not pandering to the worst elements of our society …

Whoever uttered this is the problem. Firstly their statement may be true but they aren’t being generous, they want a purge that Guy tried especially with Limbrick.

Secondly a large section of the community won’t vote for Labor lite, they either fracture their vote among the right minor parties, vote informal or if inclined just vote for the real thing. Despite that inconvenient fact, where is the centre now? These goalposts have been shifted the full pitch now and very subjective to political view unlike when I was younger.

As for pandering to the worst elements of society, hate to say that river has well and truly been crossed.

I reckon I can write the review now, a bag full of woke recommendations and more of the failures that got them to where they are anyway.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 29, 2022 6:35 pm

Heh. All the hippies who bought up land at bargain prices around Nimbin and through to Mullumbimby and Byron will all be multimillionaires now.

Hippies and struggling arts types usually clean up on their property dealings. Ditto any that have sold up around Margaret River, picked up and gone to Denmark.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
November 29, 2022 6:36 pm

customer service is important to us

(from Zipster’s link)

The funniest line ever.
From Revenue NSW as they deal with the horror of returning fines already paid for Covid infringements.
Yet another Covid travesty that will be allowed to go through to the ‘keeper.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 29, 2022 6:36 pm

Green, then an IT-manager, was utterly open about how she first knew her child was trans: “As a toddler, Jackie always headed for the dolls in toy shops.” And if a four-year-old looking at dolls weren’t evidence enough that this child should be committed to a lifetime of medicalisation, Green added, “[Jackie] loathed having her hair cut.” Green put Jack — as he was then known — on puberty-blockers and flew him to Thailand for a sex change operation when he was 16, making him the youngest person in the world to undergo that surgery.

To use an old fashioned term, this woman is mental. And abused her son.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 29, 2022 6:37 pm

If the china protests start to gain traction could Winnie the Xi launch a distraction war or 2?
Not necessarily Taiwan, but maybe rough up India a little?

calli
calli
November 29, 2022 6:38 pm

There are plenty of soft shell suitcases. American Tourister (Samsonite) do some really good ones. We bought their Applite ones because they’re tough and very, very lightweight.

Our old Motherships have gone to landfill after circling the earth many…many times.

Roger
Roger
November 29, 2022 6:40 pm

I reckon I can write the review now, a bag full of woke recommendations and more of the failures that got them to where they are anyway.

Notable that commenters in the media are urging the Liberals to ditch the outer suburban Christian vote (are they the “worst elements of society” mentioned?) while making no comment on the buckets of money Guy was offering the Muslim community, including the Islamic museum (outbidding Andrews, I believe).

calli
calli
November 29, 2022 6:42 pm

I was sad to see them go…busted zips and all. The boat trip between islands in the Galapagos did them in. Their zips anyway – salt corrosion. After that there’s no return.

Now we have some smart new ones, and I’m going to buy trackers for them as well. Best to be mentally prepared for the bad news before the luggage carousel.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 29, 2022 6:43 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

Agreed, yet led the biggest advisory group/”charity” on the issue for years.

And the claims of 42% trying suicide came from about 30 people self selected sample of trannies.

From Wiki..

Whats the odds???

In October 2022, Dr Jacob Breslow resigned as a trustee of Mermaids after it was revealed that he spoke at a conference organised by B4U-ACT, a paedophile support group, as a PhD student in 2011. In a statement, Mermaids described the organisation as “completely at odds” with its values, and said that “Once notified we took swift and decisive action to investigate … Safeguarding is of the utmost importance to Mermaids and the safety of the young people we support is our highest priority.”[48] Belinda Bell, the chair of trustees, apologised for the distress caused by the news of Breslow’s links to the group, and said that he should never have been appointed to the board.

Razey
Razey
November 29, 2022 6:43 pm

You know. The best way to defeat ‘China’s’ zero covid and illegal imprisonment of people is to organise raids on the concentration camps, free the people, and distribute them all over the city as quickly as possible. The numbers of QR codes going red would be impossible to control.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 29, 2022 6:50 pm

With the mention of girls and dolls, there is currently a new sort of doll – of course – being marketed. We found out when we asked about the Christmas wish lists of our grandchildren in Queensland, for whom we also went shopping on our suitcase expedition yesterday. Kidstuff were, after all, having a 30% off sale and I am a sucker for a bargain. The new doll craze is the Our Generation doll: a nice normal looking big doll about 1.5 feet tall, dressed to convey a specific character – e.g. I am Lucy the Vet, I am Miranda the Gardener (not their real names, lol). The Vet had some appealing equipment, stethescopre etc, but the gardener didn’t look like much of thrill, in her green woolen cardie. Also available were non-specific Our Gen dolls, who were attired in very pretty dresses and diamonds. They were clearly happy enough to head for the marriage market. No bride dolls though, as in my day. Oh how I had longed for one with every fibre of my girish being, but these frothy delights were way above my childhood pay grade.

Our girls already have two each of these Our Generation dolls. Our job was to provide some more secondary apparel at sixty bucks a pop, special carry cases and of course each grandie would also like to have a cute little going-out bag with an even cuter little puppy in it, similarly priced.

Influencer material. You’ve come a long way, Barbie.

No problem with the little two year old boy, a late arrival and apple of his dad and grandpa’s eye.
Its trucks, trucks, and more trucks for him. As requested by the recipient himself.

Eyrie
Eyrie
November 29, 2022 6:51 pm

The best way to defeat ‘China’s’ zero covid and illegal imprisonment of people
I’d bet it is all legal, fair and square under Chinese Law.

Razey
Razey
November 29, 2022 6:53 pm

Eyriesays:
November 29, 2022 at 6:51 pm
The best way to defeat ‘China’s’ zero covid and illegal imprisonment of people
I’d bet it is all legal, fair and square under Chinese Law.

Pfff, fucking communists.

Razey
Razey
November 29, 2022 6:55 pm

Get this, Chinese have to pay for their own imprisonment. $700 USD/ 21 days or around $350 AUD/week.

Multiple that by 2 or 3 million people and you have a very profitable enterprise on your hands. I bet any money lots of CCP cronies a getting rich.

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 29, 2022 6:58 pm

Defence Minister Richard Marles has indicated the generals who commanded special forces soldiers accused of war crimes in Afghanistan will not be stripped of distinguished ­service medals, with the penalty ­to be reserved for those who directly led the troops.

Defence Force Chief Angus Campbell has written to officers who held senior command positions in Afghanistan when the war crimes identified in the Brereton Report were alleged to have occurred.

But Mr Marles told parliament on Monday that, in line with the recommendations of Justice Paul Brereton, Defence was not seeking to strip medals from personnel who held positions above the level of task group commander when the alleged crimes occurred.

The decision indicates Defence is limiting its assessment of command accountability for the alleged murders of Afghan civilians and prisoners to officers who were ranked from captain to lieutenant colonel at the time.

Oz with no comments allowed

miltonf
miltonf
November 29, 2022 6:59 pm

pandering to the worst elements of our society …

yes I’d like to know who said that and what he meant- church goers? anti abortion people? Sorry I voted for them in the LA now- probably should have voted informal. They really don’t get it.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 29, 2022 7:03 pm

There are plenty of soft shell suitcases.

We will look out for of the soft shell sort in the post Christmas sales of old stock (for clearly they are the going the way of the dinosaurs) and take the old blue one up to Queensland. Hairy’s smaller business-travel Samsonite is too small for Christmas gear for us both and we’ve already tossed any others. If old trusty irredemably pops its zip we can just sling it in the car and access it from there and send it into a lonesome final orbit when we get home. Hope it lasts the distance though to Qld, much less bother.

Cassie of Sydney
November 29, 2022 7:06 pm

“thefrollickingmolesays:
November 29, 2022 at 6:19 pm”

Thanks for that. It’s really good news about Susie Green stepping down from “Mermaids”. This woman took her son to Thailand when he was 16 to be castrated. I suspect Green was…ahem…gently pushed. The wheels have been slowly falling off Green and Mermaids over the last few months, particularly since the NHS decided to shut down the Tavistock Clinic, but I suspect what really precipitated the departure of Green has been the disclosure that one of its board of directors is a pedophile advocate, oops I’ll just rephrase that in the new parlance….a “minor attracted” advocate and another was busted for child porn. How unsurprising! Mermaids was originally set up over twenty years ago as a support group for parents who had children, mainly boys (in fact almost always boys), who suffered from gender dysphoria, it was Green and her comrades who radicalised the organisation and made it a mouthpiece for radical gender theory.

But the demise of Green, the closure of Tavistock, the discrediting of Stonewall and so on owes a lot to some strong and feisty UK women. Trans rights activists (mainly autogynephiliac men or perverts as they should be properly called) love to smear the UK as “TERF island” because many UK women, Kathleen Stock, Helen Joyce, Helen Staniland, Julie Bindel, J K Rowling, Kellie Jay Keen, Caroline Farrow, Jo Bartosch, Allison Bailey, Maya Forstater, Bev Jackson, Kate Harris, Sarah Phillimore, and some men like Harry Miller, Graham Linehan, Andrew Doyle and others have been fighting this sinister ideology and for their activism they have been cancelled, endured job losses, and the women have been threatened with rape and death.
Kathleen Stock lost her job at Sussex University (she was hounded out), Graham Linehan has been cancelled, he can’t get any gigs, Germaine Greer silenced, yet most remained unflinching against the abuse and the silencing. It’s also interesting that many of the aforementioned names have nothing in common politically but what has brought them together and what motivates them is fighting this dangerous ideology. All credit to them.

Roger
Roger
November 29, 2022 7:06 pm

yes I’d like to know who said that and what he meant- church goers? anti abortion people?

Those who take exception to the agenda of “inclusivity”?

Razey
Razey
November 29, 2022 7:06 pm

Under Xi Jinping’s rule…

*Not safe for dog lovers.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
November 29, 2022 7:09 pm

pandering to the worst elements of our society …

You mean they were greens voters…………………………..Oh no.

cohenite
November 29, 2022 7:10 pm

What a bastard pearson is. The Voice, detailed or otherwise, will be more than a lawyer’s picnic, it will make aboriginal activism inviolate. ATSIC was able to be abolished because it was only established by parliament not by the constitution and Geoff Clark’s corruption could end. The Voice will be untouchable and the Clarks, Thorpes, Bineys and Pearsons of the world will be untouchable.

Anyway, fuck him; he’s not fit to wipe Jacinta’s feet.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 29, 2022 7:10 pm

Great piece in this week’s Speccie on the unsung naval heroes of WW2, thanks Top Ender.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 29, 2022 7:15 pm

Defence Minister Richard Marles has indicated the generals who commanded special forces soldiers accused of war crimes in Afghanistan will not be stripped of distinguished ­service medals, with the penalty ­to be reserved for those who directly led the troops.

Somebody want to tell these clowns that there are some countries, where stripping soldiers of decorations earned in battle would probably lead to a mutiny?

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 29, 2022 7:16 pm

Easy with the Vet Doll talk, Lizzie, you’ll get Shantaram “all up in my sh*t” again…

Bob Sewell
November 29, 2022 7:17 pm

Slyvester the Cat:

Anyone here buy/eat Made in Chyna pork?

No way. Only bulk stuff I buy is local butcher and local pigs.
Any delicatessan stuff I buy is this Gillys.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 29, 2022 7:18 pm

This woman took her son to Thailand when he was 16 to be castrated. I suspect Green was…ahem…gently pushed.

If their children later reject this often encouraged or even enforced ‘transition’ I do wonder how the parents involved are going to cope with their regret and particularly their guilt. And how are the mangled children going to feel about the way in which their parents failed to protect them?

Cassie of Sydney
November 29, 2022 7:19 pm

” The Voice will be untouchable and the Clarks, Thorpes, Bineys and Pearsons of the world will be untouchable.”

The Voice is about enshrining an Indigenous aristocracy who will milk us, smear us, dictate to us and lord it over us and if we object, we’re racists and rednecks. I think Noel Pearson today has actually done the NO vote a great service. He’s spoken truthfully about how he views ordinary non-indigenous Australians. He hates us. Thanks for speaking the truth Noel.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 29, 2022 7:20 pm

ATSIC was able to be abolished because it was only established by parliament not by the constitution and Geoff Clark’s corruption could end. The Voice will be untouchable and the Clarks, Thorpes, Bineys and Pearsons of the world will be untouchable.

Linda Burney is already on record as saying that “Once the Voice is enshrined in the Constitution, they won’t be able to get rid of it, the way they did ATSIC.”

Bob Sewell
November 29, 2022 7:21 pm

So nobody makes hybrids any more?

The reason I asked is the rooftop solar is rumoured to be getting cut back in terms of the rebate.
Perhaps the point at which it’s cheaper to use all that power going back to the grid or even blocked on bright days perhaps going into a car.
Avoid the Powerwall thingy, just bung it into the car as it sits in the garage.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
November 29, 2022 7:22 pm

It is very rare for a definition in Urban Dictionary to be anything other than prurient fantasies of pubescent boys counting down the days until they get laid
Next you’ll be dissin’ the very useful Profanisaurus

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 29, 2022 7:23 pm

Yep, the UK is the front line of the war on trannies. Real take no prisoner stuff.

Indolent
Indolent
November 29, 2022 7:24 pm
calli
calli
November 29, 2022 7:25 pm

It is very rare for a definition in Urban Dictionary to be anything other than prurient fantasies of pubescent boys

Yes. That’s why I left the “7” in my reference. All the previous six were either rude or nazi.

calli
calli
November 29, 2022 7:31 pm

I like those My Generation dolls. Bought them for the two granddaughters a couple of years ago and they love them. Being a stitcher, I make them clothes from time to time, but you can pick up nice packs of theme clothes for them at KMart. I usually include a couple at Christmas.

One of the littlies wanted to do horse riding so I got the equestrienne outfit complete with hard hat. But not the matching horse – I don’t want to give her too many poverty-inducing ideas. 😀

Roger
Roger
November 29, 2022 7:31 pm

What a bastard pearson is.

You’ve met him?

Pearson was persona non grata with the media on account of his past behaviour towards them. They’ve absolved him of that to bring him back into the fold to discredit Jacinta.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 29, 2022 7:33 pm

The Voice is about enshrining an Indigenous aristocracy who will milk us, smear us, dictate to us and lord it over us and if we object, we’re racists and rednecks

I’ll bet good money that Noel Pearson sees himself as part of any Voice.

cohenite
November 29, 2022 7:33 pm

God, I’m in love with Jacinta Price; what a woman. Piss weak bolta gives her air time to respond to that piece of shit, pearson, which she does with bells on and then as fucking always, bolt reveals his inner pansy by suggesting that Jacinta’s speech in front of the Nats was let down when she said Birney was flying around in Gucci. Jacinta says yeah she meant to say Prada and bolt is speechless. Jacinta has more gonads then just about any other so called conservative in this shit hole.

calli
calli
November 29, 2022 7:34 pm

Jacinta is a bright star the the presence of reeking tallow.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 29, 2022 7:35 pm

“The time for complete and utter renewal of the Party has arrived. Make no mistake, the deadwood needs to go and if they don’t then will need to be removed,” one senior Liberal said.

100% correct.

“The Liberal Party (has) a clear choice. Either renew, rebuild and head towards the centre ground of politics or move further to the fringes of society.

Again, 100%.

“Elections are won in the middle by engaging with the mainstream and not pandering to the worst elements of our society …

It’s not Rocket Science.
That’s the guts of it.
These Church of Prosperity Fake Christians can always arrange an abortion for their daughter on the QT, when required, but won’t tolerate the Hoi Polloi having the same right.
They were the anchor that stopped Matthew Guy.
By the way, how did Bernie Finn go in the LC?
Elected again?

cohenite
November 29, 2022 7:35 pm

You’ve met him?

I haven’t met turtle bowen either and he’s a prick. What’s your point. With pearson, I don’t care if he has wings and a halo, he’s a bastard.

miltonf
miltonf
November 29, 2022 7:35 pm

Pearson was persona non grata with the media on account of his past behaviour towards them. They’ve absolved him of that to bring him back into the fold to discredit Jacinta.

shocking but easy to believe- I just wish the legacy meja would hurry up and die. I still see the Aged on sale in servos- who the hell buys it?

Bob Sewell
November 29, 2022 7:37 pm

Lizzie:

Wot is going on? First world problem of course, and I did see quite a snazzy one for $785 but I’d prefer what used to be the ordinary soft but extendable zipper sort you could get about .. um … must be eight years ago now.

Go to army disposals and get a couple of these.
Best part is that they can be worn like a backpack.
The Aussie ones are better – tougher material, more flexible.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
November 29, 2022 7:37 pm

re: the IVtP
Can someone tell the WA Nationals to pull their head in?

Cassie of Sydney
November 29, 2022 7:38 pm

“God, I’m in love with Jacinta Price; what a woman. Piss weak bolta gives her air time to respond to that piece of shit, pearson, which she does with bells on and then as fucking always, bolt reveals his inner pansy by suggesting that Jacinta’s speech in front of the Nats was let down when she said Birney was flying around in Gucci. Jacinta says yeah she meant to say Prada and bolt is speechless. Jacinta has more gonads then just about any other so called conservative in this shit hole.”

Jacinta is just fabulous.

Roger
Roger
November 29, 2022 7:39 pm

The reason I asked is the rooftop solar is rumoured to be getting cut back in terms of the rebate.

Not just that.

There are plans afoot to charge households which feed in to the grid in order to recoup some of the infrastructure costs.

calli
calli
November 29, 2022 7:40 pm

*disclaimer*

My endorsements are my own. They are not paid for by Big Luggage or Big Christmas Stocking.

calli
calli
November 29, 2022 7:41 pm

I was going to say “Big Doll” but wanted to avoid PHRASING. I’m looking at you, KD.

😀

Bob Sewell
November 29, 2022 7:41 pm

Eyrie:

There was a short strike by the Me 262 test pilots – probably the only strike that didn’t end in the sound of a firing squad in the Third Reich. One of their number got shot down by a Thunderbolt and as the test pilots were civilians the MK108 30 mm cannons weren’t allowed to be loaded. The strikers demanded that they were and so it was done.

I remember that – the civvie test pilots weren’t allowed because it was against the Geneva Convention to have them loaded.
In 1944/45, I don’t think there was much regard for the niceties of war any more.

Razey
Razey
November 29, 2022 7:42 pm

Yep, the UK is the front line of the war on trannies. Real take no prisoner stuff.

They don’t like fossil fuel cars hey.

Shy Ted
Shy Ted
November 29, 2022 7:42 pm

Jacinta is the product of a good Western education based on Christian beliefs, loving and sober parents, all the advantages the West has to offer and takes advantage of them. And, it has to be said, preferred Indigenous status . If she was Caucasian she’d be like you and I. Overlooked.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 29, 2022 7:42 pm

I’ll bet good money that Noel Pearson sees himself as part of any Voice.

Go for your life.
Once The Voice is legislated, Pearson will be flat out getting a job mopping the Office dunnies.
Pretty soon, Ukraine will collapse and we’ll be taking in the Azov Battalion and assorted Hohols.
The big money [for a while] will be in writing certificates of Aboriginality.
Just imagine:
Last week you’re shooting Russian civilians in Kiev, this week you’re an Aborigine with the Certificate to prove it.
Cop that, racists!

Cassie of Sydney
November 29, 2022 7:43 pm

“Can someone tell the WA Nationals to pull their head in?”

For decades the WA Liberals have long been a wayward, peculiar and separate entity to the federal Liberals.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 29, 2022 7:44 pm

Yes. That’s why I left the “7” in my reference. All the previous six were either rude or nazi.

Monty Python had a skit about a killer joke so lethal that when translating it in to German they assigned each translator only a single word. One translator accidentally saw two words and spent several weeks in hospital.

That is what Urban Dictionary is like. When you suspect there is is a legitimate definition buried in there to have to skim the definitions from the top so you may discount the garbage ones.

It always means grabbing a few words at a glance. A very sordid experience.

Roger
Roger
November 29, 2022 7:45 pm

What’s your point.

My point is that it is generally agreed upon by those who’ve had dealings with him that Pearson is as you say.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
November 29, 2022 7:46 pm

calli I need your assistance in identifying a flowering plant I saw — in fact at first glance it appeared to be a hedge of white butterflies, at a closer look what I thought were butterflies were in fact little tiny flowers that looked like butterflies resting on long slender reed-like stems. So beautiful gently swaying in the light breeze. I wanna get me some if you can help.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 29, 2022 7:47 pm

I still see the Aged on sale in servos- who the hell buys it?

No one. I expect the redundancies on the j’ismists is the only thing keeping it afloat. I would think it being managed with one eye on the exit door. Sport should ensure FTA TV is around for a while yet.

Bob Sewell
November 29, 2022 7:52 pm

Eyrie:

The best way to defeat ‘China’s’ zero covid and illegal imprisonment of people
I’d bet it is all legal, fair and square under Chinese Law.

It always is.
“Every Gypsy, Jew, Russian PoW, who went to the gas chambers, was legally sent by a Judge, escorted by a police officer or appointed person.
It’s always legal for the Left to murder people.

Cassie of Sydney
November 29, 2022 7:53 pm

Sorry, I mean to write….

For decades the WA Nationals have long been a wayward, peculiar and separate entity to the federal Nationals.

Roger
Roger
November 29, 2022 7:53 pm

Jacinta is the product of a good Western education based on Christian beliefs

Noel had all that too, and to a much greater extent than Jacinta, yet his favourite term for white people is both racist and misogynist, for which reason I won’t repeat it here.

MatrixTransform
November 29, 2022 7:53 pm

It’s always legal for the Left to murder people.

exactly
mUnty failed History too

Zipster
November 29, 2022 7:57 pm
cohenite
November 29, 2022 7:59 pm

My point is that it is generally agreed upon by those who’ve had dealings with him that Pearson is as you say.

The abc interview where the prick was given carte blanche to spew shit on the lovely Jacinta is just a taste of what is to come. I’m in 2 minds as to what its effect on the punters will be. If Jacinta and others lead a powerful fight against the fucking voice it may fail; but as the latest capitulation in victoristan showed the punters will run from a weak position which is all the lnp is capable of.

In other good news, Renee Heath, who was kicked out by the bug eyed little shit matthew guy, looks to be the goods as well.

Roger
Roger
November 29, 2022 8:01 pm

. Jacinta says yeah she meant to say Prada and bolt is speechless.

By her own admission Burney did not meet her indigenous family until she was well into adulthood.

I’ll take Jacinta’s “lived experience” over that any day.

P
P
November 29, 2022 8:02 pm

Joseph’s Dream, Rembrandt, 1645 – Matthew 2:13-15

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 29, 2022 8:02 pm

Meanwhile, Chris Kenny’s weird left-wing extremism continues…

Yeah, sounds like Chris has snagged himself the job of CIA Point Man for The Voice.
They’ll discard him like a used frenchie afterwards, but he’s not smart enough to work that out.

Roger
Roger
November 29, 2022 8:05 pm

In other good news, Renee Heath, who was kicked out by the bug eyed little shit matthew guy, looks to be the goods as well.

She also looks set to be admitted to the Vic Liberal party room.

From what I’ve heard from her she’ll be the only one with a coherent political philosophy.

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 29, 2022 8:06 pm

Outback Wrangler star Matt Wright has been charged with multiple offences by Northern Territory Police relating to the helicopter crash which killed his friend and co-star.

The 43-year-old has been charged with attempting to pervert the course of justice, destroying evidence, fabricating evidence, unlawful entry into a building, unlawful entry into a dwelling, making a false declaration, and interfering with witnesses in a criminal investigation.

Mr Wright was bailed and will appear in Darwin Local Court at 9:30am on Wednesday.

calli
calli
November 29, 2022 8:08 pm

The only one I can think of that grows on long, slender stems is Moraea aristata, the Peacock Iris.

How long were the stems? When you say “hedge”, was it dense or sparse and grass-like?

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
November 29, 2022 8:11 pm

The only one I can think of that grows on long, slender stems is Moraea aristata, the Peacock Iris.

If you want to know the name of a flower, google lets you point your phone camera at it and gives you matching pictures and names.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 29, 2022 8:11 pm

By her own admission Burney did not meet her indigenous family until she was well into adulthood.

Burney’s father did the merry deed and went his way, ignorant of her very existence – she was born in 1957, and met her father in 1984. Her mother handed her over to relatives as soon as she was born – after meeting her father, Burney discovered she had ten siblings.

calli
calli
November 29, 2022 8:12 pm

That’s no good, Dr Beau! I’ll be out of a jerb!

Cassie of Sydney
November 29, 2022 8:13 pm

If anyone out there thinks that women on the right of politics are not the subject of vile smears and ridicule, I give you the example last week of Liberal candidate Renee Heath, trashed by the left because she’s a Christian and because her father is a conservative pastor, and this week we have the example of Jacinta Price, trashed by the left as a racist because she dares to oppose the racist “Voice”. This comes on the heels of the left’s trashing of Gina Rinehart, Nicolle Flint, Rita Panahi, Peta Credlin, Pauline Hanson and so on.

Frank
Frank
November 29, 2022 8:15 pm

“after meeting her father, Burney discovered she had ten siblings”

Someone liked to spray it around, obviously.

MatrixTransform
November 29, 2022 8:17 pm

google lets you point your phone camera at it and gives you matching pictures and names

I got a 20yo lily sort of indoor plant here and I cant identify it
tried the google lense last year … didnt work.

It’ll flower again in autumn and I try again.
this time I’ll try Calli Online

Cassie of Sydney
November 29, 2022 8:24 pm

“I’ll take Jacinta’s “lived experience” over that any day.”

Ahh….yep. Price grew up in Alice. I’ve heard her talk about the dysfunction in her mother’s indigenous family and extended kin. That dysfunction comprises alcohol and other substance abuse, sexual and domestic violence, delinquency, truancy and so on. Price herself has experienced physical violence. Jacinta is proud of her heritage through her mother but she’s also fully aware of its negative side.

Jacinta’s a relative of Kumanjayi Walker. She’s knows about the toxic dysfunction endemic in remote communities like hers. Whereas Pearce, Burney, Thorpe and all the other leaches talk the talk, Jacinta Price walks the walk.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 29, 2022 8:24 pm

“after meeting her father, Burney discovered she had ten siblings”

Jeez, it sounds like Albo’s Carnival cruise.

Razey
Razey
November 29, 2022 8:26 pm

The ‘Voice’ will get up simply because they will cheat. The ‘votes’ have already been counted.

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 29, 2022 8:27 pm

Cheers Lizzie – yes, brave lads.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 29, 2022 8:31 pm

Matt Wright has been charged with multiple offences by Northern Territory Police relating to the helicopter crash

I note the awfully famous Outback Wrangler turned up here with his missus and kiddies in tow.

I reckon he’ll be using them as human shields against the enormous brothers of his former secretary, who he somehow accidentally got pregnant before he packed his family up and moved them interstate about three days after the chopper prang.

custard
custard
November 29, 2022 8:35 pm

It’s interesting to note that Elons Twitter post I linked to this morning regarding his bed side table contained a picture.

This picture is Washington crossing the Delaware river. This was the first picture ever, on the cue posts.

Here is the text of the remainder of that post.

SCI[F]
Military Intelligence.
What is ‘State Secrets’ and how upheld in the SC?
What must be completed to engage MI over other (3) letter agencies?
What must occur to allow for civilian trials?
Why is this relevant?
What was Flynn’s background?
Why is this relevant?
Why did Adm R (NSA) meet Trump privately w/o auth?
Does POTUS know where the bodies are buried?
Does POTUS have the goods on most bad actors?
Was TRUMP asked to run for President?
Why?
By Who?
Was HRC next in line?
Was the election suppose to be rigged?
Did good people prevent the rigging?
Why did POTUS form a panel to investigate?
Has POTUS *ever* made a statement that did not become proven as true/fact?
What is POTUS in control of?
What is the one organization left that isn’t corrupt?
Why does the military play such a vital role?
Why is POTUS surrounded by highly respected generals?
Who guards former Presidents?
Why is that relevant?
Who guards HRC?
Why is ANTIFA allowed to operate?
Why hasn’t the MB been classified as a terrorist org?
What happens if Soros funded operations get violent and engage in domestic terrorism?
What happens if mayors/ police comms/chiefs do not enforce the law?
What authority does POTUS have specifically over the Marines?
Why is this important?
What is Mueller’s background? Military?
Was Trump asked to run for President w/ assurances made to prevent tampering?
How is POTUS always 5-steps ahead?
Who is helping POTUS?

Post 14 October 31st 2017

It’s interesting

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 29, 2022 8:36 pm

The ‘Voice’ will get up simply because they will cheat. The ‘votes’ have already been counted.

The Voice will get up because of the “Vibe.”” Aboriginal Australia was invaded – 100,000 men, women and children were killed in the “Frontier Wars.” Their land was stolen from them. Their children were snatched from their mothers loving arms, and sold into slavery. Aborigines were not citizens, they didn’t have the vote, they were “Flora and Fauna” until 1967. Right all the past wrongs – Vote “Yes” to the Voice. Their souls will be crushed if a brutal, uncaring, racist Australia votes “No.”

Zipster
November 29, 2022 8:42 pm

It’s interesting

so is the horoscope

calli
calli
November 29, 2022 8:48 pm

No one wants to tell me what the firearm in the picture is. Not a ciggie lighter?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 29, 2022 8:51 pm

Matt Wright is Joe Exotic.
Lot of similarities. Creepy.

Wiki

Bear Necessities
Bear Necessities
November 29, 2022 9:00 pm

Defence Minister Richard Marles has indicated the generals who commanded special forces soldiers accused of war crimes in Afghanistan will not be stripped of distinguished ­service medals, with the penalty ­to be reserved for those who directly led the troops.

Defence Force Chief Angus Campbell has written to officers who held senior command positions in Afghanistan when the war crimes identified in the Brereton Report were alleged to have occurred.

But Mr Marles told parliament on Monday that, in line with the recommendations of Justice Paul Brereton, Defence was not seeking to strip medals from personnel who held positions above the level of task group commander when the alleged crimes occurred.

The decision indicates Defence is limiting its assessment of command accountability for the alleged murders of Afghan civilians and prisoners to officers who were ranked from captain to lieutenant colonel at the time.

It’s been a while since we’ve heard anything regarding the process of generating prosecutions from the alleged incidents in Afghanistan. Is that because of usual bureaucratic pace of doing things or it is due to evidence (or lack of) issues? Does any Cat know?

Black Ball
Black Ball
November 29, 2022 9:01 pm

Still get a larf

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 29, 2022 9:04 pm

So many questions. Who has the answers? Can I just turn the iPad upside down?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 29, 2022 9:09 pm

Defence Minister Richard Marles has indicated the generals who commanded special forces soldiers accused of war crimes in Afghanistan will not be stripped of distinguished ­service medals, with the penalty ­to be reserved for those who directly led the troops.

That is just pissweak.

Scapegoats, sorted by rank – and by ‘rank’, I mean the number of TED talks and corporate leadership focus groups they’ve been to.

Fucking awful.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 29, 2022 9:10 pm

Never seen that before, BB.

Hilarious.

Black Ball
Black Ball
November 29, 2022 9:12 pm

As for those who think Teh Voice will prevail at the referendum, I will put the agates on the chopping block and with confidence, say no it won’t.
Most black fellas are apathetic about voting under any circumstance. And most are repulsed by the antics of Thorpe, mark my words.
And after being left high and dry at the hands of Geoff Clark, they see too many bigwigs in Aboriginal politics like Clark, Thorpe and associated families and just can’t stomach it. Nepotism is almost a core tenet of any Aboriginal organisation.
My opinion only of course but I don’t see it succeeding. If it does, it will be by the hand of white academics who of course know what’s best for blacks.

cohenite
November 29, 2022 9:15 pm

My opinion only of course but I don’t see it succeeding. If it does, it will be by the hand of white academics who of course know what’s best for blacks.

Correct.

Bill P
Bill P
November 29, 2022 9:18 pm

Got me a date and I won’t be late,
Picked her up in my 88,
Shag on down by the union hall,
When the joint starts jumpin’ I’ll have a ball

cohenite
November 29, 2022 9:19 pm

FMD.

The Nationals have split over their opposition to the Voice to parliament less than 24 hours after party leader David Littleproud announced they would formally oppose constitutionally enshrining the body.

As Nationals frontbencher Andrew Gee and the Western Australian state branch broke ranks and publicly backed the Voice, former federal leader Michael McCormack suggested the party could revise its position next year depending on the details of the proposal.

Gee and McCormack should be horse-whipped.

Mater
November 29, 2022 9:27 pm

That is just pissweak.
Scapegoats, sorted by rank – and by ‘rank’, I mean the number of TED talks and corporate leadership focus groups they’ve been to.
Fucking awful.

Absolutely agree.

If this all goes through, regardless of rank, if their citation mentions Afghanistan, the medal criteria stipulates warlike conditions and the timelines coincide, it’s a complete abrogation of their responsibility as an Officer to do anything but do likewise hand it back.

If they weren’t responsible for anything bad that happened, they certainly weren’t responsible for anything good, and have accepted it under false pretences.

Very poor form. All or none.

Old bloke
Old bloke
November 29, 2022 9:27 pm

thefrollickingmole says:
November 29, 2022 at 6:37 pm

If the china protests start to gain traction could Winnie the Xi launch a distraction war or 2?
Not necessarily Taiwan, but maybe rough up India a little?

Highly unlikely Moley, Modi and Xi have become very kissy kissy lately. Chinese and Indian troops recently joined together for joint exercises in eastern Russia so things will cool on that front. Peace is breaking out everywhere, even Saudi Arabia and Iran are having joint talks, these nations are in the BRICS alliance or have applied to join.

Even Pakistan has asked Putin for a gas pipeline, will they also become kissy kissy with India?

Things are changing so fast these days.

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 29, 2022 9:30 pm

The hour meter in Outback Wrangler star Matt Wright’s chopper was allegedly disconnected the day it crashed, killing cast member Chris “Willow” Wilson, during a crocodile egg collection mission in a remote part of the Northern Territory.

The Australian also understands pilot Jock Purcell, who was on the February 28 egg collection mission and landed at the crash site, lifted the destroyed helicopter’s dash to check if the Hobbs meter was connected before screwing the dash back down by hand.

This comes after Northern Territory police on Tuesday night charged Mr Wright with attempting to pervert the course of justice, destroying evidence, fabricating evidence, unlawfully entering a building, unlawfully entering a dwelling, making a false declaration and interfering with witnesses in a criminal investigation or court process by making threats/reprisals.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
November 29, 2022 9:34 pm

But Mr Marles told parliament on Monday that, in line with the recommendations of Justice Paul Brereton, Defence was not seeking to strip medals from personnel who held positions above the level of task group commander when the alleged crimes occurred.

What a prick. In no just society are leaders exempt from accountability of their subordinates. Not knowing shit happened under their command is no excuse. In fact, it’s evidence of their culpability. It means they weren’t watching their subordinates or worse, were taking what they said at face value. An unsceptical leader is an incompetent leader.

And on top of all this, they’re just allegations, proving how much a farce the whole charade is.

Mater
November 29, 2022 9:37 pm

“The Distinguished Service Cross was introduced in 1991 and is awarded for distinguished command and leadership in warlike operations.”

“The Distinguished Service Medal was introduced in 1991 and is awarded for distinguished leadership in warlike operations.”

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 29, 2022 9:38 pm

So many questions. Who has the answers? Can I just turn the iPad upside down?

Haha, once I asked my mum, would you like an iPad?
Yes, she says, I’d love one!
So I buys it for her, then I spends 6 hours setting it up with all the passwords, and apps and credit card details to the Apple app store, all the Kindle books and everything.
In all of this at some stage I decided I wanted it to convert from portrait view to landscape.
So, as you do, I looked at the manual, and found nothing useful. Then, as you also do, I went online for an answer. Nope nothing. I was completely lost. Flummoxed. Bemused. I knew it could be done, but I couldn’t find out how to do it.
After an hour of stuffing around with it I accidentally physically rotated the iPad from vertical to horizontal.
Amazing! It went into landscape mode!

Moral to this tale is this: never ever assume a geek can do the obvious.
It was the first time I’d ever used anything Apple.

My mum hated the iPad. So it sat in a drawer for ages until I mentioned to my step-brother that it existed, and I think he’s found a use for the thing.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 29, 2022 9:41 pm

No.

No, no, no. This can’t be right – this man is a doctor (the Tele):

The ABC has been forced to admit that celebrity medico Dr Norman Swan made comments that “were clearly incorrect” when he erroneously linked the deaths of cricketing legend Shane Warne and Labor Senator Kimberley Kitching to Covid-19.

A doctor AND a celebrity. A celebrity doctor – how dare he be questioned?

ABC managing director David Anderson said managers spoke to Dr Swan and that he was “remorseful”. “Certainly Dr Swan was counselled over the matter, he was spoken to about it and he was very regretful he made those comments.”

Regretful that nobody believed his horseshit.

“Dr Swan realises that he did provide an opinion that was otherwise not substantiated, that was not in keeping with our editorial standards,” he said. “He realises that is not to be done and that that was not in keeping with the standards we expect.”

Mr Anderson was also questioned about numerous errors and “doomsday predictions” made by the health expert during the pandemic, but said Dr Swan would be kept on at the broadcaster.

Yes, yes, doomsday predictions. St. Ruth – your thoughts?

Black Ball
Black Ball
November 29, 2022 9:42 pm

As Nationals frontbencher Andrew Gee and the Western Australian state branch broke ranks and publicly backed the Voice, former federal leader Michael McCormack suggested the party could revise its position next year depending on the details of the proposal.

Cohenite, add voter fatigue as to why Aboriginal people won’t vote for this dingleberry. Time taken to get the fucking thing organised, be 30 years.
The old joke about black fella time, about being an hour late for anything, is very much rooted in basic fact.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
November 29, 2022 9:42 pm

If the china protests start to gain traction could Winnie the Xi launch a distraction war or 2?
Not necessarily Taiwan, but maybe rough up India a little?

Taiwan increases in probability due to the one inevitable failure of zero covid. But Taiwan would be a massive failure. 200kms of open ocean would be Russia invading Ukraine x1000 difficulty.

Worse, Taiwanese would literally be fighting to the death. They would almost certainly end up in concentration camps with all their shit being given to the party faithful. They’d never see daylight again and they know it. Millions of Chinese casualties. Unfortunately the will to save face far outweighs the will to be logical and perpetuate the long term benefit of Chinese.

It would be incredibly stupid of Xi, and there’s no certainty he’s not that stupid.

Rorschach
Rorschach
November 29, 2022 10:16 pm

No one wants to tell me what the firearm in the picture is. Not a ciggie lighter?

Maybe a stretch … but the one in the back may be a “MUSKet”? He does like puns…

MatrixTransform
November 29, 2022 10:17 pm

Havel saw how the totalitarian system determined to operate by laws in order to provide a legal basis for its operations—as if laws and not crude power were their operating principle

Vaclav Havel on Defying a System of Lies

Gary Furnell on Quadrant

noice … I like this bloke

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
November 29, 2022 10:34 pm

According to the New York Post, the revolver on Elon Musk’s bedside table is a model gun based on a video game and the flintlock is a non firing replica.

I have no idea why he keeps weird stuff next to his bed, but I suppose multi billionaires can do whatever they like.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

….lifted the destroyed helicopter’s dash to check if the Hobbs meter was connected before screwing the dash back down by hand.

While it doesn’t impact the substantive matter in the article, I thought the hour meter was under the seat, beside the circuit breakers.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 29, 2022 10:52 pm

My opinion only of course but I don’t see it succeeding. If it does, it will be by the hand of white academics who of course know what’s best for blacks.

That’s my opinion – happy to be proved wrong.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 29, 2022 11:00 pm

Larrikin Ernie Walker lost to Rats’ dwindling ranks

By JAMIE WALKER
Associate Editor
@JamieWalkerOz
9:13PM November 29, 2022
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He was unbowed, unafraid and incorrigible to the very end, going out like a Rat of Tobruk should. We’ll not see the likes of Ernie Walker again.

At 106, he was hailed as the last Rat standing in NSW and one of the oldest survivors of the great generation who pulled on a uniform to fight the Nazis and defend the homeland against Japanese invasion in World War II.

His death means only two remain of the 14,000 Australian soldiers who refused to yield when the dusty, flea-infested Libyan port of Tobruk became the fulcrum of the Allied position in North Africa in 1941, defying Rommel’s Afrika Corps and Italian allies in an epic 242 day siege.

Paying tribute to Mr Walker, Anthony Albanese told parliament on Monday: “We honour Ernie’s memory, we salute his service and we reflect on the bravery of all those Australians who risked and lost their lives to defend our nation’s freedom.” Mr Walker was remembered by friends and family as a true Australian larrikin, quick with a joke and to smile, a man who approached life with a twinkle in his one good eye.

But like many of his mates, he could not bring himself to speak of his wartime service until late in life, so traumatic were his experiences in the desert and on the Kokoda Track in New Guinea, holding out against a rampant Japanese army before the tide turned.

He killed because he had to, Mr Walker said, in an emotional 2018 interview recounting in unflinching terms how he had knifed a German sentry during a raid on enemy lines at Tobruk. “I got him … I was sick after it, sick for days,” he said.

Secretary of the Melbourne-based Rats of Tobruk Association, Lachlan Gaylard, said the army didn’t want to take Mr Walker when he went to join up “with just about every bone in his body broken”, a legacy of a boyhood passion for horseriding.

But he persevered and was sent to the Middle East with the 2/1st Pioneers Battalion. “He was always laughing, always cracking a joke,” Mr Gaylard remembered. “But despite his lightheartedness there were things that carried a lot of weight … he loved his family and he loved his country. He never let go of that.”

Mr Gaylard, who has sat down with dozens of WWII veterans to record their stories, said the fade out of the war generation was almost complete. Ten Rats had died in the past 12 months, leaving only two known survivors aged 101 and 104 respectively.

Mr Walker’s death on November 22 on his property at Penrose in NSW’s Southern Highlands came only days before the funeral of Geoff Pullman, 103, in Melbourne last Friday.

The Department of Veterans’ Affairs said fewer than 4600 of the nearly one million Australians who donned a uniform between 1939 and 1945 were left, and the number was projected to fall to 1300 within three years. The average age of WWII veterans was 98, of whom 660 were 100 or more.

Mr Walker’s daughter-in-law, Lisa Hines, who nursed him at home, said the old boy had died how he wanted to: in his sleep, his wife, Bev, holding his hand. “He fought to the end,” Ms Hines said.

Mr Gaylard said Mr Walker had been typically chipper when they last spoke after he suffered a ministroke. “He lived a very full and rich life and I think he recognised time was up. He had no regrets – he was ready to go

Black Ball
Black Ball
November 30, 2022 12:02 am

Test

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 30, 2022 12:03 am

BoN – the help search function usually helps. If you know what worlds geeks use to describe whatever you are trying or not trying to do. I still get mystery swipes after a year or so. Back to Microsoft Surface when this goes to God in a few years. Barely need anything more than a light web browser these days.

Black Ball
Black Ball
November 30, 2022 12:05 am

Wowee. First comment on this distinguished site for an hour. Until we meet again, good night.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 30, 2022 12:07 am

Well you stop complaining about the Perf cold and start complaining about the Perf heat. Till around May.

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 30, 2022 2:57 am

Aboriginal people are not all marginalised, we already have plenty of seats at the table

Saying no to the Voice is standing against division and farcical idea that all Aboriginal people think the same based on our race.

Jacinta Price
Jacinta Price

HERALDSUN.COM.AU02:59

This week the National Party stood for all Australians against racial division.

A core component of our free, liberal democracy is the fundamental principle that every Australian citizen is considered equal under the law.

It is deceitful to continue to peddle the racial stereotype that Aboriginal people are one homogenous group of Australians who all think the same, based on our race.

This farce denies us our right to be respected as individuals.

No other racial group of Australians is framed in this way and rightly so.

The mainstream media and the proponents of the Voice have been peddling this lie to the Australian people and it’s time to stand up to it, call it out and say no.

The basis for the Voice comes from the “Uluru Statement from the Heart” which has been sold to the Australian people on the abovementioned racial stereotype.

Further to this, the Statement – signed by 250 unelected individuals representing 0.03 per cent of Aboriginal Australia without consent of the other 99.97 per cent – does not represent ALL of Aboriginal Australia’s wishes.

The other lie the proponents of the Voice have peddled is the notion that all Australians who identify as Aboriginal or “First Nations” – as they’ve pigeonholed us – are somehow marginalised because of our heritage and currently have no voice or “seat at the table”.

We are not all marginalised as a race and we have plenty of seats at the table with many voices already.

In fact, within the Indigenous Advancement Strategy alone, we have 1100 Aboriginal organisations in this nation that are funded to advance us. We have more than 2000 programs and services nationwide through the Aboriginal Benefits Account that are funded to advance Aboriginal Australians.

We have 11 federally elected representatives with seats in parliament from across parties as the greatest representation of Aboriginal voices in our parliament in the history of our nation.

We have lived long enough under a woke divisive ideology that suggests that Australia is made up of two groups of people: “oppressors” and the “oppressed”. This ideology has also formed the basis for Labor’s Voice campaign and is the same ideology that supporters of the Voice subscribe to when they accuse those who disagree with it as racist.

Every voter in this nation has the right to vote or disagree on a proposal put by any government without being branded racist. Especially given the proposal has zero detail or is likely to be based on the former failed ATSIC model. And this time, Labor wants ATSIC 2.0 enshrined within our Constitution so that if it fails like the first ATSIC, it can never be dismantled. I don’t know about you but this is a recipe for absolute disaster and a slippery slope toward racial segregation. This is why the National Party has drawn a line in the sand and said “No” to the Voice.

Jacinta Nampijinpa Price is a Country Liberal Party Senator for the Northern Territory.

JC
JC
November 30, 2022 3:25 am

It’s just not about the trannies. It’s radical leftwing ideology. All of it!

Once again, we can look to schools to explain this trend. Social justice ideology espoused by schools has conditioned young people to view society as hostile and unredeemable. Boys and men are considered toxic. Climate change will inevitably destroy the Earth. Oppression is always and everywhere. How could any self-respecting human being bring kids into such a world?

Worse is the radical gender ideology that has become pervasive in schools. The incessant focus on gender issues has been misinterpreted. It is not about encouraging the acceptance of gay or trans people, as the left maintains. Nor is it significantly about sexual grooming as some on the right claim. Its true motives are to recruit children, especially girls, into a lifelong, non-heterosexual cult, to belittle the idea of traditional families, and to encourage children to stay single and childless. The goal is to galvanize children to keep a deep-rooted progressive inclination and remain loyal Democrats. Unsurprisingly, unmarried women are strikingly liberal, voting 37% points higher for Democrats according to CNN exit polls. Married women, in comparison, favored Republicans by a 14 point margin.

For Republicans to win elections in the coming years and decades, and to rescue America from the throws of wokeism, our nation’s schools must be ridded of the blatantly political and progressive ideology in which are children are being indoctrinated. Three things must happen.

First, Republicans have to stop playing whac-a-mole. Critical race theory, ethnic studies curricula and radical gender ideology are just some of the manifestations of progressive ideology in schools, but addressing them piecemeal with legislation will not move the needle. Nor will expanding school choice, which while important for the long-term, will have little short-term impact on the vast majority of America’s children.

As aggressively as possible, we must go after the root cause of politicized schools, which, as I have argued, are the teachers unions. The NEA, AFT and state education unions, should be considered political arms of the Democratic party. The ideologies they are promoting in the classroom must rightly be viewed as political speech, which is not protected in public schools by the first amendment.

Second, we need to reinvigorate the parent’s movement, which risks fizzling out as covid restrictions and school closures fade into memory. While we have been successful in mobilizing many parents in red states, and have won some school board races around the country, we have, so far, mostly failed at educating parents to the true dangers of woke schools to their children and to our country.

JC
JC
November 30, 2022 3:30 am

The CCP is totally evil.

Families in a hi-rise in China were locked into their apartments as their building caught fire. Urumqi, in Xinjiang Province

They burned alive as they couldn’t escape and no one could get to them in time

This is directly on the CCP and Xi’s Zero-Covid lockdown strategy

Tom
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rickw
rickw
November 30, 2022 5:07 am

The CCP is totally evil.

They need to be destroyed, and their fellow travellers in Australia.

rickw
rickw
November 30, 2022 5:13 am

It would be incredibly stupid of Xi, and there’s no certainty he’s not that stupid.

He’s doing COVID zero….. WhatsApp and other means of communication to my CCP brothers currently U/S…

min
min
November 30, 2022 5:36 am

The first thing Dan will do is set up the new SEC as a government body . Of course he will have to buy energy company back from Singapore company with super funds so he has announced . Will this end up like Hawke ‘s ventures with the unions trying to run businesses , Solo and the retail store in the corner of Market st ?

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 30, 2022 5:55 am

The Nationals have split over their opposition to the Voice to parliament less than 24 hours after party leader David Littleproud announced they would formally oppose constitutionally enshrining the body.

David Littleproud is a lightweight.
How can he oppose or support it when Albanese hasn’t released the detail?
Dutton has done the smart thing by waiting for the release and building a case for a Royal Commission into abuse of children in Aboriginal Communities.

Mater
November 30, 2022 5:56 am

How can he oppose or support it when Albanese hasn’t released the detail?

Because even in concept, it’s wrong.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 30, 2022 5:58 am

How silly would you hafta be to allow Jacinta Price to be a Spokesman for your position.
She looks like she’s never missed 6 square meals a day in her life and her support amongst Aborigines in the NT is so weak that she nearly lost the CLP Senate Seat.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
November 30, 2022 6:02 am

For Sydney Cats Roseville Branch of the Liberal party is hosting a dinner with the speakers Mark Latham and Jacinta Price – details here would love to go but can’t go due to prior commitment.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
November 30, 2022 6:04 am

Solo and the retail store in the corner of Market st ?

Ah yes Solo and Bourke’s – the great failed enterprises of the Labor/Union movement – that showed ’em

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 30, 2022 6:05 am

Because even in concept, it’s wrong.
Andrew Gee and Mick and the WA Branch don’t seem to think so, and they’re unlikely to be the only ones

Mater
November 30, 2022 6:09 am

The first thing Dan will do is set up the new SEC as a government body . Of course he will have to buy energy company back from Singapore company with super funds so he has announced .

This enterprise will end up being a State funded retailer which uses general revenue to subsidise electricity bills for select clientele, in exchange for which they’ll pledge their everlasting loyalty (and vote).

It won’t reduce the cost of energy one iota, but it will disguise it for some, using OPM.

Mater
November 30, 2022 6:10 am

Andrew Gee and Mick and the WA Branch don’t seem to think so, and they’re unlikely to be the only ones

Fuck, I’m convinced. What was I thinking?

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
November 30, 2022 6:14 am

Calli asked How long were the stems? When you say “hedge”, was it dense or sparse and grass-like?
The stems were about a 750mm and very sparse not a long hedge but like a border _ thought a friend gave me something similar in pink but of course I killed it — you calli have a green thumb whilst I have the five fingers of death — I am trying though now that I have a little more time.

E.g. for dinner last night we had spinach I grew in the garden, well it’s not quite a garden more like a higgly-piggly Italian grotto not much land for anything substantial.

Mater
November 30, 2022 6:16 am

Ed Case says:
November 13, 2022 at 12:23 pm
All Labor is left with are scare campaigns, and Matty has neutralised Abortion as an issue, so Andrews is fucked.
I’m calling Lib/Nat at 55 seats, Labor 25, the rest Green.
The future for Labor is vto patch over to Green and take that Party over, with the ALP as a rump preference directer.

Did Andrew Gee and Mick and the WA Branch share this sentiment, too?

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
November 30, 2022 6:16 am

calli here it is

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 30, 2022 6:17 am

Littleproud was unconvincing ion his interview with Chris Kenny.
He couldn’t articulate why he was opposing, something about his Traditional Owners saying they weren’t consulted.

So, okay, if Albanese goes to Dirranbandi and consults Littleproud’s Traditional Owners, The Voice is tickety boo, then?
Weak as piss, and it didn’t last a day.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
November 30, 2022 6:25 am

By her own admission Burney did not meet her indigenous family until she was well into adulthood.

Linda Burney is ‘convenient indigenous’ – when a member in the NSW parliament I recall seeing her regularly about the place – a tiny little lady and wearing heels high enough to cause a nose-bleed — well-dressed but didn’t appear oppressed though

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 30, 2022 6:34 am

Littleproud does’t argue that the concept is bad.
His argument is that the Traditional Owners he spoke to hadn’t been consulted.
So, all Albanese has to do is fly around the Country with the Press Pack in tow talking to Traditional Owners and one half of the Coalition doesn’t have a Policy on The Voice anymore.
By the way, that interview with Chris Kenny was a trainwreck.
He wasn’t prepared and wasn’t coherent in his opposition.
Talking about ATSIC doesn’t register with most people, it was so long ago.

Cassie of Sydney
November 30, 2022 6:38 am

“Because even in concept, it’s wrong.”

It’s iniquitous.

Bear Necessities
Bear Necessities
November 30, 2022 6:43 am

Ed Case says:
November 13, 2022 at 12:23 pm
All Labor is left with are scare campaigns, and Matty has neutralised Abortion as an issue, so Andrews is fucked.
I’m calling Lib/Nat at 55 seats, Labor 25, the rest Green.
The future for Labor is vto patch over to Green and take that Party over, with the ALP as a rump preference directer.

Did Andrew Gee and Mick and the WA Branch share this sentiment, too?

Is Head Injury and Monty the same person but with multiple personalities?

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 30, 2022 6:44 am

Tinta, the plant is Oenothera. White or pink Gaura.

Johnny Rotten
November 30, 2022 6:45 am

The Centre for Disease Control has issued a medical alert about a highly contagious, potentially dangerous virus that is transmitted orally, by hand, and even electronically. This virus is called Weekly Overload Recreational Killer (WORK). If you get WORK from your boss, any of your colleagues or anyone else via any means whatsoever – DO NOT TOUCH IT!!! This virus will wipe out your private life entirely. If you should come into contact with WORK you should immediately leave the premises.

Take two good friends to the nearest liquor store and purchase one or all of these three antidotes – Really Urgent Medicine (RUM), Work Isolating Neutralizer Extract (WINE) or Bothersome Employer Elimination Rebooter (BEER). Take the antidote repeatedly until WORK has been completely eliminated from your system.

You should immediately forward this medical alert to five friends. If you do not have five friends, you have already been infected and WORK is controlling your life.

calli
calli
November 30, 2022 6:46 am

a model gun based on a video game and the flintlock is a non firing replica.

Thanks Pedro! No wonder I didn’t know what it was.

The flintlock was easy. George used it to storm the Alamo.

Johnny Rotten
November 30, 2022 6:47 am

Give a man a free hand and he’ll run it all over you.

– Mae West

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 30, 2022 6:47 am

Areff – If your server is groaning with overwork it’s because Steven Hayward has a Powerline blog post about your esteemed publication!

Thought for the Day: Does Anyone Like Kamala? | Power Line (28 Nov)

“From Salvatore Babones writing in The Quadrant in Australia:

“Simply put: no one likes Kamala Harris. No one even feels bad for not liking her. Her boss doesn’t like her; her aides don’t like her; even her Irish terrier doesn’t like her.”

Read the whole thing; it’s delicious. And bookmark The Quadrant; it’s a great publication.”

Mater
November 30, 2022 6:51 am

It won’t reduce the cost of energy one iota, but it will disguise it for some, using OPM.

The ONLY way Dan can reduce the energy prices is to buy up all the coal generators in the Latrobe Valley, reverse the discriminatory rules changes which favour renewables, and start shovelling in the brown coal (which is still as cheap as chips because it doesn’t have an international market).

The optics of this is unacceptable (although history indicates that Teflon Dan might be able to get away with it in the (one) eye of Victorian voters). So, subsidies is his next best option. He does have the power to cap prices, but his power wanes as it goes up the supply chain, and pricing realities start to kick in. Such a move would be a short term sugar hit, followed by a serious crash.

One way or another, people are going to pay full measure for their energy, and that measure is increasing because of government policies. You can’t paper over a shortage of gas molecules, or the fine balance of properties required to run an electricity network.

Marxism 101 at Monash doesn’t prepare you for such scientific realities, only how to distract from them.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 30, 2022 6:52 am

Bear N, special ed very occasionally a while ago had some incisive observations. Munty is just not capable. Failed 101 Kindy. Ed is a disrupter, munster an imbecile.

Dot
Dot
November 30, 2022 6:52 am

Apple are evil.

They are complicit with the CCP restricting Air Drop before civil disobedience in China and they donate heavily (97%) to the Democrats and censor opposition to them.

We need a Musk phone.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 30, 2022 6:54 am

My apologies to imbeciles, he’s actually worse.

Mater
November 30, 2022 6:57 am

Ok rural Victorian Cats, gird your loins. The weather’s at least warming, if not improving, and I’m thinking of organising a Central Victorian Cat catchup.

Names to Dover, in anticipation. We can cry in each others beer!

Dot
Dot
November 30, 2022 6:59 am

Paul Joseph Watson on Apple can go and get pleasured roughly.

https://youtu.be/2uS8tUbdBNc

Cassie of Sydney
November 30, 2022 7:01 am

“JCsays:
November 30, 2022 at 3:25 am
It’s just not about the trannies. It’s radical leftwing ideology. All of it!”

Of course, all of it is related or, the better woke word is “intersected”. It all derives from the same shit filled sewer. Everything in this piece you’ve posted also applies here in Oz. But remember, we had a so called right of centre government for almost nine years, I don’t need to remind anyone here that the Liberal government did nothing to combat “radical leftwing ideology” in schools, universities and so on. In fact, when it came to the rather simple notion of free speech, a fundamental right in any free society, we once had a now jobless about to be censored former PM say, when asked about free speech laws, that “It doesn’t create one job“.

You can’t fight any left-wing ideology without free speech which is why those on the left are zealous in their commitment to silencing people, and by and large they’ve been successful.

Yesterday, here in Oz, we had a prime example of this left-wing ideology and its ideologues attempting to silence people. Noel Pearson’s very deliberate use of the word “redneck” was aimed at silencing anyone who speaks up against the Voice, because anyone who does speak up will be smeared as a waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaciiiiiiiiiiiist.

In my bleak moments I fear it is all too late, but then I’m inspired by women like Jacinta Price. She used truth to speak up against the progressive zeitgeist and for speaking truth she’s been smeared. She still stands resolute. We must all be like her.

Mater
November 30, 2022 7:01 am

Marxism 101 at Monash doesn’t prepare you for such scientific realities, only how to distract from them.

And that goes likewise for Journalism, Monty!

calli
calli
November 30, 2022 7:01 am

Tinta, the plant you saw was most likely Dietes grandiflora. There is also D. iridoides which is a little shorter. D. bicolour has pale golden flowers, a bit rarer but also tough and lovely in flower.

But rarest of all is D. robinsoniana, a magnificent species that has enormous white flowers opening along a stem in succession. Just done a stack of divisions of mine and replanted across the back. It’s called the Lord Howe Wedding Flower.

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