The Rocky Mountains Lander’s Peak, Albert Bierstadt, 1863
1,810 thoughts on “Open Thread – Weekend 21 Jan 2023”
Easily impressed boomers.
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One thing I miss during the tennis is Infidel Tiger putting the boots into those middle aged fan-bois, “The Fanatics” and their banal chanting, face-painting and clapping at the tennis.
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…throw some buzzwords and a few spastic computer generated images at you and it’s Pavlov’s dog.
Mormons turn up at your door.
You turn as if addressing someone out of sight and say “You see? The dark lord has provided our sacrifice for the evening!”, then turn to the Mormons and say “Come in friend, come in!”.
You are sick. But in a very amusing way.
Awarded : 4/5 Pentagrams.
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I’ve fiddled around a fair bit with ChatGPT, particularly with its computer coding ‘skills’ – which should be right in its lane.
I’m here to tell you that, while it’s an impressive app for what it is – and clearly on a path to stronger performance – it makes stupid and revealing mistakes on trivial tasks.
It has glimmers of some of the things you might consider signs of intelligence – although I’m not certain that is native, or a programmed response – but it is far from reliable, and far less ‘creative’.
Away from computer, so no specific examples possible atm.
(Obviously its indifference to JLC’s obvious former hotness counts strongly against it.)
Eyrie says: I am cheered that the ascent stage of The Eagle, LM5, may still be in lunar orbit
From memory it was steered so it would clear the Moon’s orbit, in other words bugger off into space elsewhere…there was some thinking it would not be a good thing to have stray lunar landers in orbit forever. Could be wrong…was just reading Collins’ autobiography a few months back, and have just finished Aldrin’s.
Speaking of Buzz Aldrin, he’s just got married again, at the age of 93, to a tall blonde who looks no more than 50. This is the 4th time for him – his life story rabbited on and on about how Mrs Aldrin 3 was his lifetime saviour, and so on, and when the book finished they were going strong. But from what I read later they divorced in 2012, and she passed away a few years back.
Strange bloke in many ways – hit absolute rock bottom some years after the Apollo 11 adventure. However he has always remained a strong advocate for US space exploration.
Sancho Panzer says:
January 23, 2023 at 10:53 am
Climate worrying is a substitute for religion, you say?
And the vibe is more Old Testament than New Testament.
The way the catastrophists are wailing they must be expecting Sodom and Gomorrah.
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Zipster:
Jerusalem Post Israel News
Israel, US hold large-scale missile defense drill amid Iran nuclear standoff
US and Israel have signed agreement that would see US come to assist Israel with missile defense in times of war.
Israel knows what Iran will do as soon as they get enough warheads to annihilate Israel. Why wait till the axe falls? If Israel had any sense at all, they’d nuke every Iranian town with a population of 500,000 or more. Twenty warheads and with a couple left over.
Or is the Israeli leadership going to allow another Holocaust before it stands up for its people?
The Mullahs have repeatedly told the world what they are going to do, and how they are going to treat the survivors. They’ve never negotiated in good faith with Israel. Why is Israel waiting for the axe to descend before they make Iran an object lesson in self defence?
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Roger says:
January 23, 2023 at 10:06 am
Klaus has been the proprietor and ringmaster of a circus of the self-absorbed.
Quite an achievement given that he’s a man with so little charisma or even intellectual clout (one reviwer of his last book said it could have been written by AI).
Perhaps the most extended confidence trick in history.
I read somewhere recently (sorry, can’t remember where) that they charge gullible punters up to US$250,000 to attend. This is selectively applied, of course.
What a scam, indeed.
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Sancho Panzer says:
January 23, 2023 at 4:07 pm
Elsewhere, it has also “performed well in the preparation of legal documents and some believe that the next generation of this technology might even be able to pass the bar exam,” he noted.
93.1% of most legal documents comprise boilerplate clauses pulled together by a paralegal.
It’s the remaining 8.9%* where the pitfalls might lie.
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* Deliberate. Using lawyer math.
ROSS is already better than humans.
A lot of MBAs aren’t the full quid even if taught with good intentions to good candidates.
In Australia, it is a club. Get one from UNSW and it can unlock doors. The other ones aren’t in the club.
I have never attended or taught at UNSW. This is just from my contacts from the finance sector.
I assume it is a Sydney existing up its own ablution crevice sort of thing.
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Poor Henry Wales. Addicted to boat cake.
When you do boat cake, boat cake does you.
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I assume it is a Sydney existing up its own ablution crevice sort of thing
Bathhouse culture.
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If Israel had any sense at all, they’d nuke every Iranian town with a population of 500,000 or more.
???
“Clemenceau once said…”
Really?
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Go woke go broke – or get booted…
Aboriginal man tells street performer to pay him RENT despite it being a public space: ‘You’re on my land’
An angry Indigenous man ordered a street performer to ‘pay the rent’ because he was performing card tricks ‘on my country’.
Sydney man Brock was delivering prank tarot card readings for strangers on the public footpath of King Street when the Aboriginal man stormed up to him.
‘Hey bruz, you’re on my country here. You gotta pay the rent,’ the Aboriginal man is heard shouting on the TikTok video Brock recorded.
The street performer tried to give the man a coin, but this appeared to infuriate him even more.
Brock’s diplomacy was to no avail, as the Indigenous man ordered him to leave the public space that he had every right to be in
Embarrassed, Brock offered the man a free tarot card reading.
‘I don’t believe in that s***. You’re on my country here. That’s breaking our rules.’
Brock did his best to calm the situation down, again offering a freebie.
‘Sir, I am feeling a lot of anger right now, would you like me to give you a free card reading?’
But it was to no avail, as the Indigenous man ordered him to leave.
‘No. Why don’t you just G.O. – just go.!’
‘I understand you’ve had a bad day today,’ Brock responded.
‘No. I haven’t had a bad day. You’re on our land and you’re doing s*** like this with your tarot and whatever.’
The Indigenous man claimed that using tarot cards in public was breaking traditional law
‘I don’t want to disrespect your culture or anything so I will leave,’ Brock said, finally admitting defeat.
That says more about the Wharton MBA than AI. Like saying you have the tastiest sh*t sandwich.
A Wharton MBA is worth more than most.
Definitely more than one from Harvard or Yale.
Hiring wise, we had zero and I mean zero success with Harvard and Yale. The kids coming out of MBA school and even undergrad were useless. Wharton was something else. The kids weren’t just brilliant fast learners, they also had plenty of street smarts. I think Wharton is or was in my time the best outlet for decent recruits on the trading/IB side. Really smart kids.
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The knife/car/hammer became sentient, defying the will of the person operating it, who becomes a mere passive victim – a mere passenger “caught up in” a fateful event.
I am but a mere instrument of karma, the knife on the other hand.
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Speaking of Buzz Aldrin, he’s just got married again, at the age of 93
He’s also a climate sceptic, which has exploded quite a few luvvie heads over the years.
Best wishes to them both.
As for me I have a new friend too! He seems OK with the fur. First noisy miner I’ve gotten to reliably do this.
John Anderson
The sexual revolution promised liberation but has led to increased loneliness and social problems. Prior to 1960, the traditional family structure provided connections and support, but the revolution weakened marriage and led to an increase in fatherless homes, which research shows is the cause of all kinds of social ills. Through restoring the family unit we can reverse these consequences.
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C.L. says:
January 23, 2023 at 2:58 pm
How long before these things become self-aware, Terminator-style?
Chatbot passes Wharton MBA exam.
It won’t be terminator style, but in three years the world won’t be recognizable with AI. Imagine the disruption it could cause. Google Search as we know could end up being a thing of the past sooner rather than later if my hunch about AI turns out even half as good.
Chat GPT was valued at US$29 billion with the last investment. Potentially that could end up being dirt cheap.
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Buzz Aldrin pops up on 30 Rock. Some good scenes as he tells Liz it was just as well her mother didnt marry him, his life has been a mess.
/ The New York Times reports Google founders Larry Page and Sergey Brin have discussed its response to ChatGPT, with plans to launch over 20 AI products this year, including a demo of its own search chatbot.
google’s chatbot is a communist
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Mrs Aldrin is 63.
Looking at photos I’m guessing a little bit of help from some friends
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LOL
Can’t disrupt the western aristocracy clipping tickets:
We have made the difficult decision to shut down operations at ROSS Intelligence.
Six years ago, we set out to make legal services more accessible by innovating legal research. We felt then, as we do today, that legal research could be more efficient, less expensive, and more accessible.
In the spring of this year, Thomson Reuters and Westlaw brought a spurious lawsuit against ROSS. When the news broke, we were grateful to receive so much community support. However, just as Westlaw devised it to be, this ongoing suit has been heavy for ROSS to bear.
Vale.
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I’m reading Felix Francis’s Bloodline, his father was a good ordinary writer, Felix seems more a fair ordinary writer but I am stuck with wanting to know whodunnit.
Copy of the book is a US edition and the publisher has substituted Mom for Mum.
Grates.
How far America has Fallen – it is really a waste of space
Crossing into the country from Mexico with raw eggs is forbidden, no matter how expensive they get in California
US Customs and Border Protection officials have warned Americans against trying to smuggle raw eggs or poultry over the border from Mexico, citing disease risk as skyrocketing supermarket prices drive normally law-abiding citizens to take extreme measures.
Raw egg seizures along the Mexican border jumped 108% for the last quarter of 2022 compared to the same period in 2021, CBP Supervisory Agriculture Specialist Charles Payne told El Paso NBC affiliate KTSM on Wednesday.
During that same three-month period in 2022, the average cost of a dozen eggs in the US soared from $3.50 to $5.30. Across the border in Juarez, a customer can get 30 eggs for $3.40, the NBC affiliate reports – a bargain at twice the price, as long as one isn’t caught.
I am going to run my 8.42 am post again. I think it it’s important those of us who do not have an Australian subscription actually read the Albrechsen/Rice article. I am sure there are no punches held. I already have my suspicions but I want confirmation via a couple of resourceful journalists!
“Rape charge for high profile man ‘seen on Google’”
Janet Albrechsen & Stephen Rice.
I think we may all know what this story is about and where it’s likely to be heading. I think we’ve been here before.
Can anyone with access to the OZ please c/p this, please?
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Nope.
I take that to mean ChatGPT thinks she looked like David Bowie and therefore had to be treated with pity.
Until someone can present indisputable evidence Jaimee has a dick I’m counting her amongst the top echelon of cute owls.
Top Endersays:
January 23, 2023 at 5:01 pm
Go woke go broke – or get booted…
Aboriginal man tells street performer to pay him RENT despite it being a public space: ‘You’re on my land’
The Voice in action.
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JC
Wharton was something else. The kids weren’t just brilliant fast learners, they also had plenty of street smarts. I think Wharton is or was in my time the best outlet for decent recruits on the trading/IB side. Really smart kids.
If Chatbot can get B and B- grades from Wharton, that suggests that there is a lot of essentially mechanical/routine work involved, leaving more intuitive work for the real humans.
How would you use it in your work?
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I think we may all know what this story is about and where it’s likely to be heading. I think we’ve been here before.
Until someone can present indisputable evidence Jaimee has a dick …
You don’t want to find out theses things by that stage.
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Google Search as we know could end up being a thing of the past sooner rather than later if my hunch about AI turns out even half as good.
I am already using chatgpt in preference to google search for most cases
he’s just got married again, at the age of 93
Well, Jerry Hall expects to live in the manner to which she has become accustomed.
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‘I don’t want to disrespect your culture or anything so I will leave,’ Brock said, finally admitting defeat.
Should’ve learned from the Cat…
Always Escalate.
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Well, Jerry Hall expects to live in the manner to which she has become accustomed.
Smoking Mr Burns was taking it a bit too far IMHO.
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“The Sexual Revolution Has Destroyed Us | Mary Eberstadt #CLIP”
Eberstadt is one of my heroes, I discovered her about five years ago, on Youtube. Mary was a guest of the CIS here in Sydney last year, in November, and I was privileged to attend her lecture. She’s superb.
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From memory it was steered so it would clear the Moon’s orbit, in other words bugger off into space elsewhere…
All the others, yes, including Apollo 10 which didn’t land. Not LM5 which was just left in orbit. There’s a good video on Youtube by Scott Manley about it. Now normally the Mascons (Mass Concentrations) will make low lunar orbit unstable and the vehicle will eventually impact the Moon but in this case the orbit goes though phases where its eccentricity increases, then decreases. Someone simulated this on a computer and concluded it most likely hasn’t impacted the Moon.
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The Voice in action.
Anyone who’s been called a “white c*nt” by some mouthy blackfella would relate. Albo has his work cut out for him.
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Rape charge for high-profile man ‘recognised via Google’
Exclusive
By JANET ALBRECHTSEN
Columnist
@jkalbrechtsen
and STEPHEN RICE
NSW Editor
A well-known Australian has been charged with rape after his alleged victim googled a high-profile national scandal in which he was involved.
The alleged victim told police that when she saw a photo of the man, she realised he was the same man she alleges had unprotected sex with her after they met in a Toowoomba nightclub in October 2021.
The woman says just over six weeks later, in November 2021, she was at her home speaking with her flatmate’s mother when the conversation turned to the scandal. The woman then did an internet search of the scandal on her phone and saw a face come up that she recognised as the man she had met at the Toowoomba nightclub.
The following day she reported the matter to Toowoomba police and later provided a formal witness statement.
The man allegedly had consensual sex with the woman that night but failed to wear a condom when they had sex twice the next morning.
Failing to wear a condom without a partner’s permission is considered sexual assault under Queensland law. The man was earlier this month charged with rape over the alleged incident in October 2021.
He cannot be named because, under a soon-to-be abolished Queensland law, defendants charged with sexual assault or rape cannot be identified until they are committed for trial.
The woman said she met up with friends at the Powerhouse nightclub in Toowoomba’s CBD in October 2021, where she consumed alcohol before moving on to another club with two friends, where she consumed more alcohol.
At some point in the evening, she met the man and talked to him before they left in a taxi to the house where he was staying with a friend.
The woman and the man got into bed clothed. After a brief conversation, she said, she recalled that they kissed and she told him to put a condom on. She then claimed that she woke to find her legs open and his penis inside her.
She said the next thing she remembered was waking up the next morning with the man having sex with her. She said she told him to stop. The woman claimed she felt groggy when he had sex with her a third time.
After establishing that he ejaculated inside her, the woman said she told him she needed to get the morning-after pill.
The pair then drove to a nearby pharmacy to get the morning-after pill, and she asked him to drive her home.
On the way they stopped to pick up coffee from a McDonald’s drive-thru before he dropped her back at her own home.
Over the course of the following week, the pair engaged in conversation over the social media platform SnapChat but soon lost contact.
The Australian understands that police will allege they have CCTV footage from the club showing the pair socialising and leaving together, as well as confirmation of the taxi booking in his name and receipts for the McDonald’s coffee purchase.
Police served a notice on the man’s lawyers requiring his appearance at Toowoomba Magistrates Court in January.
The man did not appear in person as he was living outside the state.
He was granted bail, with conditions including that he not contact the complainant and that he surrender his passport, which was not opposed by police.
Magistrate Kay Ryan ordered a brief of evidence be delivered by February 15 and the matter was adjourned until February 22.
Last year, the Queensland government announced that the state’s rape laws would be changed after the second Hear Her Voice report – which highlighted the experiences of women and girls across the criminal justice system – recommended naming people charged with sexual offences, bringing Queensland into line with other states.
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“Top Endersays:
January 23, 2023 at 5:01 pm
Go woke go broke – or get booted…
Aboriginal man tells street performer to pay him RENT despite it being a public space: ‘You’re on my land’”
Thanks TE. I can’t stop laughing. This happened on King Street, in Newtown, in Sydney’s inner-west, an enclave of uber progressive luvvies and it’s in the electorate of Grayndler, Albosleazy land. Actually, apart from his “land shtick”, the Aboriginal man spoke sense about “tarret” and whatever. I roared with laughter when the Aboriginal man, when asked by soy boy tarot reader Brock “do you want me to give you a card reading”, the Aboriginal man responded “I don’t believe in that”.
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Thanks for that Eyrie. Great to think the equivalent of Columbus’ ship to the New World can be recovered one day for a museum.
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Aboriginal man tells street performer to pay him RENT despite it being a public space: ‘You’re on my land’
Had this experience on the bus today.
Before boarding, he was sipping away on a bottle of red. At 9.30am.
We set off, about 10 minutes in there was some sort of altercation with a European bloke. “White c..t, you’re on my land! C..k sucker!” and on it went for half an hour. Other passengers were aghast.
All this after being in the clink for the previous 6 months for breaking into another black fella’s house and beating him to a pulp.
Now if Teh Voice was to succeed, it wouldn’t be because of blokes like this. He wouldn’t know a referendum if it bit him on the arse.
A revolting display.
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I roared with laughter when the Aboriginal man, when asked by soy boy tarot reader Brock “do you want me to give you a card reading”, the Aboriginal man responded “I don’t believe in that”.
That old bloke was a tyre kicker. My advice to Brock is to delete his contact details off his database.
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Anyone who’s been called a “white c*nt” by some mouthy blackfella would relate. Albo has his work cut out for him.
“White maggot dog” is the insult for 2022/23…
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Walkersays:
January 23, 2023 at 6:05 pm
Rape charge for high-profile man ‘recognised via Google’
Exclusive
By JANET ALBRECHTSEN
Columnist
@jkalbrechtsen
and STEPHEN RICE
NSW Editor
Thank you, Walker. M\Many thanks and much appreciated.
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A fail, Top Ender’s paragraph at top was supposed to be italicized and the rest as normal, fat finger somewhere but the point remains valid.
Here is how platforms die: first, they are good to their users; then they abuse their users to make things better for their business customers; finally, they abuse those business customers to claw back all the value for themselves. Then, they die.
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“White maggot dog” is the insult for 2022/23…
Another salty epithet used on the bus.
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Walkersays:
January 23, 2023 at 6:05 pm
Rape charge for high-profile man ‘recognised via Google’
Hiring wise, we had zero and I mean zero success with Harvard and Yale. The kids coming out of MBA school and even undergrad were useless.
Whatever value an MBA might have, one thing is for sure. Doing it straight out of an undergrad degree is not great. Far better to get out into the workforce for a minimum of five years then go back for the MBA. At least they then have some real world context for the further studies.
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“White maggot dog”, “White c*nt”
It sounds like the Redfern train station and immediate surrounds are still the same then? All those people going to Sydney University each day would know about it.
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So she had consensual sex but because he didn’t wear a rubber after she allegedly asked him to it’s rape. And she didn’t give a rats until she saw he was a high flyer. I can’t put my finger on it but there’s something really fu.ked about this.
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Yes, using a private server in your laundry for government business does quality as mishandling. But this was known before the 2016 election and nothing was done about it.
Do Chinese Donations Explain Biden’s Energy Policies?
Both China and Russia have been financing Greens for a long time.
Cheapest way to destroy the West.
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The UNSW MBA (AGSM) was the first such course and started during the Gorton era iirc. The Hilmer twerp used to teach there. The Sydney Uni one is a bit of an also ran. Macquarie had Hewson there- say no more. Most diddly squat unis were offering MBAs and probably still are.
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Until someone can present indisputable evidence Jaimee has a dick …
She was born before the current craze. What did her parents say when she was born? I will bet there are newspaper clippings contemporary with her birth.
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So she had consensual sex but because he didn’t wear a rubber after she allegedly asked him to it’s rape. And she didn’t give a rats until she saw he was a high flyer. I can’t put my finger on it but there’s something really fu.ked about this.
yep sounds like BPD to me
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Until someone can present indisputable evidence Jaimee has a dick …
The guy that runs Snopes took time off from fondling his dominatrix to decree that this rumour is false. Guess that settles it then.
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self-aware
Not possible without experiencing mortality.
Can we take it that you’re either dead or nor self-aware?
This is just mystical garbage. There is nothing special about self awareness. It will happen for any system which has a sufficiently rich suite of internal sensors.
and saw a face come up that she recognised as the man she had met at the Toowoomba nightclub.
“He just kept on talking about Vietnam, how i wasnt as youthful as the prostatot he had there, and how Menzies made him do it”
“When i asked him to take me to the movies he started whispering “the horror, the horror” and then took off in his maita.
“I was really upset about my blankets, they were nicely folded but hed shot a hole through one”.
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Can we take it that you’re either dead or nor self-aware?
So she had consensual sex but because he didn’t wear a rubber after she allegedly asked him to it’s rape. And she didn’t give a rats until she saw he was a high flyer. I can’t put my finger on it but there’s something really fu.ked about this.
Allow me to help you correct your stupidity, Mr Sulu.
She woke up to find the guy rooting her.
She wasn’t paricularly happy about that, since she was still quite drunk, but wrote it off.
6 weeks later, she’s having a conversation with her flatmate’s mother, who’s discussing a famous case where the circumstances were eerily similar.
Since Gen Y doesn’t read newspapers, she’d was unaware of this case, so looked it up.
That’s when she realised that lightning doesn’t strike twice in the same place and she’d better do the right thing and get in touch with The Gendarmerie.
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There is nothing special about self awareness.
Press X to doubt! I can’t let you say that, Dave!
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It will happen for any system which has a sufficiently rich suite of internal sensors.
indubitably. An AI has very little.
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Ah, so the claim is that JLC was born a hermaphrodite.
cohenite – imagine you are defence counsel. Can you imagine having a field day with Gregory’s gap filling and her own admissions?
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This is just mystical garbage. There is nothing special about self awareness. It will happen for any system which has a sufficiently rich suite of internal sensors.
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I’m not even sure it’s true for most of the people I meet, given how readily they slurped up the official line of wank over Covid.
It will happen for any system which has a sufficiently rich suite of internal sensors.
indubitably. An AI has very little.
Quite so. It is pretty short on external sensors too. All it has is samples of what human beings have said about the world, and no direct experience whatever. The current education system is about training children to say or write the ‘right’ thing, whether it’s true, false or completely meaningless. So an AI fits in perfectly.
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“Yairs you coppers got me bang to rights, I’m guilty of buying a coupla coffees at Maccas”
FMD, you couldn’t make this up!
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Aboriginal man tells street performer to pay him RENT despite it being a public space: ‘You’re on my land’
An angry Indigenous man ordered a street performer to ‘pay the rent’ because he was performing card tricks ‘on my country’.
Sydney man Brock was delivering prank tarot card readings for strangers on the public footpath of King Street when the Aboriginal man stormed up to him.
‘Hey bruz, you’re on my country here. You gotta pay the rent,’ the Aboriginal man is heard shouting on the TikTok video Brock recorded.
The guy is a panhandler and a scumbag..
Good on that Murri for setting him straight
There is something mystical to it, even if you are not religious.
What if you’re wrong and this universe is an n-1 dimensional projected simulation made by a creator?
Your brain fits in a bucket and it knows how the infinite universe works?
Atheism is so cringe.
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Allow me to help you correct your stupidity
This raises a profound philosophical quandary: can a stupid person assist a less stupid person.
Eerily similar
Crotchless discovers similar fact evidence.
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There is nothing special about self awareness. It will happen for any system which has a sufficiently rich suite of internal sensors.
What are these ‘internal sensors’?
It will happen for any system which has a sufficiently rich suite of internal sensors.
Nuclear power plants would have a lot of internal sensors and an operating system.
cohenitesays:
January 23, 2023 at 6:23 pm
So she had consensual sex but because he didn’t wear a rubber after she allegedly asked him to it’s rape. And she didn’t give a rats until she saw he was a high flyer. I can’t put my finger on it but there’s something really fu.ked about this.
Indeed, there is. That’s why I squawked re. having a decent chap lift the Janet A story from the OZ. Walker obliged.
Have we been here before? Have we seen an humongous payout to a bint who seemed to have trouble with the truth? Do we have an hysterical little bimbo finger-pointing to a ‘media identity’ screeching rape? It’s been all over the MSM darling – give it your best shot in your gormless attempt to cash in on this poor individual who will never be able to rest his head in peace in this repulsive, stagnant country.
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cohenite – imagine you are defence counsel
I’d prefer to imagine I’m Thor.
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Incoming New Zealand PM calls out Misogyny
Is equinogyny a word?
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Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupiditysays:
January 23, 2023 at 6:53 pm
“Yairs you coppers got me bang to rights, I’m guilty of buying a coupla coffees at Maccas”
FMD, you couldn’t make this up!
From the pre-eminent site expert on making things up I’ll defer to you on what is possible there.
In Nov 2022 we (Professor Fenon and team) made a formal complaint to the Statistic Regulator about the multiple anomalies in the ONS mortality by vaccination status reports. On 20 Jan 2023 they final responded and they agreed with our major concern that 1) the ONS data was based on a biased sample that under-represented the proportion of unvaccinated in England; and 2) the ONS data could not be used to make any assertions about vaccine efficacy or safety.
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Incoming New Zealand PM calls out Misogyny
Mmm…yes.
Misogyny caused her poll numbers to fall by c. 40%.
It all makes sense now.
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I think I have discovered an alternative for the Turing test.
Just ask it “Is that sensor light out the front of my place self aware”?
If it answers “Sure guy, why not”?
Then I’m dealing with a robot.
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the ONS data could not be used to make any assertions about vaccine efficacy or safety.
I suspect the same could be said about the bullshit stats TGA are doctoring
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From the pre-eminent site expert on making things up
It’s clear the US is beginning to realise that Ukraine and Russia will have to sit down at a table somewhere and that there is going to have to be negotiated settlement.
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cohenite – imagine you are defence counsel. Can you imagine having a field day with Gregory’s gap filling and her own admissions?
I’m sure whoever it is will waste no time in seeking to clear his name.
I mean, Consensual Sex with someone one just met implies one can bareback her while she’s asleep, doesn’t it?
Soros Owns Mainstream Press?
From Armstrong Economics –
COMMENT: Marty, As you know I worked for _____________ in NYC. We all know you were innocent back then. I have followed you for probably 30 years. Everyone knew that the bankers told the CFTC that you had to be silenced. Your forecast cost them a lot of money when they assumed they could control the market.
It is no longer a mystery why the mainstream press refuses to ever even talk about your Economic Confidence Model and how it has always been right. The press is on the payroll of George Soros who hates your guts for his biggest losses were always against you.
I am passing this article on because I think it sheds light on who is on Soros’ payroll.
Cheers
All the best
WH
REPLY: Thank you. I have heard that from many sources. The CFTC wanted to stop our forecasting at the request of the bankers. They thought they could manipulate markets for “the” perfect trade. They always blew up and blamed me because we had more than $3 trillion under contract back in the ’90s – the equivalent of 50% of the US National debt at the time.
Soros is manipulating the press to press for the destruction of Russia to further his one-world government. Perhaps making that much money causes mental illness whereby you become a demigod to redesign the world. I have ZERO respect for Soros, Gates, or Schwab. They should all be thrown into a padded cell, handed a game of monopoly, and let them try to manipulate each other.”
Woke up being rooted and didn’t know it was happening?
She needs a doctor to find out why she’s developed paralysis overnight.
Making rape a farce is a disgrace.
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What are these ‘internal sensors’?
You have, I conjecture, sensors like vision and hearing which pass information to your brain about the part of the universe outside your skin. You also have sensors, I hypothesise, telling your brain about the much smaller part inside your skin. I know I do. For example, one tells me when I need to take a pee. Others tell me where bits of my body are relative to other bits.
More specifically, I have processes which monitor damage: if I burn my finger on a cigar, I know about it.
Brains of human order do a lot of modelling of the world, correcting the models by sensory data. This applies to modelling the bit of the universe inside your skin, as well as the much larger bit outside. The latter modelling allows us to shin up a tree fast if we hear a low pitched growl, which aids survival in an obvious way. The former modelling when combined with modelling of other human beings allows me to hypothesise that stubbing out my cigar on your ear will cause you to feel pain, and behave much as I would if you stubbed out your cigar on my ear. This inclines me not to do it, which also conduces to my survival.
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Alan Komissaroff, Fox News SVP of News and Politics, Dies Following Sudden Heart Attack [Variety]
what the stats actually show is a huge spike in death immediately after the rollout which were mislabeled as unvaxed deaths
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I don’t believe it has anything to do with what the kids go through in the Wharton MBA itself. I believe it has something to do with the kids’ selection process.MBAs generally aren’t great, but the school you go to in the US is a pretty decent predictor of smarts, and prestigious firms use it.
How would you use it in your work?
I never went through an MBA. My kid did, though, and although I kind of figured it out in a roughshod way, she asked me to help figure out the cost of capital and what would be an optimum capital structure. This included both an equity and debt mix, along with allowing for taxes in the structure. It’s really satisfying to work it out. 🙂
Would you need to use it in real life? Only if a person is a CFO, an equity analyst, or someone working in private equity.
Someone earlier mentioned whether an MBA is worthwhile. Moneywise, it is in the US. An MBA from a decent school can mean a salary base, stock options, etc. equal to US$250K a year. In New York City, for example, an intern or undergrad would be on US$80K.
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I imagine you as Lex Luthor
The important thing is you’re thinking about me.
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Alan Komissaroff, Fox News SVP of News and Politics, Dies Following Sudden Heart Attack
[Variety]”
Nuclear power plants would have a lot of internal sensors and an operating system.
True, they do. And if they did modelling of the values they got, and if you could talk to them, you’d quite likely think they have some degree of self awareness. After all, we grant it to m0nty on rather weak evidence.
I agree you need more than just the sensor suite, you also need it to try to model the world it sees, to be able to predict correlations. If the plant could also sense the presence and actions of human operators and was able to construct models, and if it could communicate via language, then you’d be able to decide whether to call it self-aware.
“When i asked him to take me to the movies he started whispering “the horror, the horror” and then took off in his maita.
YouTuber divers find missing man’s remains 6 years on
By MATTHEW DENHOLM
TASMANIA CORRESPONDENT
A pair of divers with a YouTube channel appear to have succeeded where an “extensive” police effort failed: to find the remains of a man missing for six years.
Two divers, part of a group called Downunder Dan Diving, on Monday announced they had found the car and remains of missing Tasmanian Dale Nicholson, who disappeared in the town of New Norfolk on December 10, 2016, aged 61.
The divers, part of a group that uses sonar to try to find the remains of missing people in vehicles underwater, said they made the find at 4.13pm on Sunday.
They had identified the spot – in the Derwent River in the middle of the town – as a possible location because it was at the bottom of a hill and bollards now in place were not present in 2016.
“(One of the divers) Dan dove and was able to confirm that not only was he (Mr Nicholson’s remains) in the vehicle with his fishing rods, but that he has been there for the last six years, about 150 to 200 yards from his home,” dive team member Bill McIntosh said. “The windows were wide open.”
It appeared a large pine tree and its roots had acted to keep the car in place and prevent it from being pummelled by debris carried by the tide.
“We’re just glad to be able to bring closure to the family; it’s a sense of relief for the four sisters (of Mr Nicholson) that we’ve found him,” he said. “They know where he is.”
The divers, who have 18,300 subscribers to their YouTube channel, said they called police about an hour after the discovery and that by 12.30am on Monday, the police had removed the car, a 1993 Ford Fairmont, and the remains.
“The Tasmania Police came in and they spared no expense; they worked so professionally,” diver Dan said. “They listened to us. They took our advice. And it was an absolute joy to work with those ladies and gentlemen.”
Tasmania Police confirmed the discovery. “Police can confirm human remains were located in New Norfolk on Sunday evening, in a vehicle registered to Dale Nicholson, who was reported missing in 2016,” TasPol said.
“Formal identification is yet to occur. A report will be prepared for the Coroner.”
One of Mr Nicholson’s sisters, Leanne Marshall, thanked the divers, who she said relied on donations for their work.
“Finally closure for us to be able to lay Dale to rest and not have to wonder and keep thinking where is he,” Ms Marshall was quoted as telling the ABC.
“It was such a shock he was found so close to home … he only lived around the corner.”
Police conducted “extensive searches” at the time of Mr Nicholson’s disappearance, both in the Derwent Valley and in the Central Highlands, where he reportedly liked to fish.
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with those “cute owls” I am surprise you can sit for a week
Allow me to help you correct your stupidity, Mr Sulu.
You just want to watch some more videos don’t you Groogs?
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DrBeauGan says:
January 23, 2023 at 7:11 pm
What are these ‘internal sensors’?
You have, I conjecture, sensors like vision and hearing which pass information to your brain about the part of the universe outside your skin.
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So, if we disconnected your spinal cord, put out your eyes and hearing, you would become less self aware?
Or would you be aware that some madman had just mutilated you and be slightly pissed off about it?
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“Incoming New Zealand PM calls out Misogyny”
Oh well, Saint Jacinda got off easy when it comes to the misogyny stakes, at least she didn’t have a male opposition leader look at his watch.
But, as we saw (and still see) with Juliar Gillard, “misogyneeeeeeee” will now frame everything about Saint Jacinda. The truth is that everything she and her government touched failed, and failed abysmally, so her woke supporters in NZ, across the ditch and across the world, will now spend their time busily rewriting history so as to canonise her, every description will henceforth contain the word “misogyneeeeeeee”, so as to paint her as a “victim”, not of her own incompetence and nastiness (and she was very nasty), but of the evil right-wing and faaaaar-right. It’s a winning woke template.
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Incoming New Zealand PM calls out Misogyny
Speaking of which, the NZ press has dubbed him ‘Mr. 0.3%’.
That’s what he recently rated as NZ’s preferred PM.
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We’re looking for a painter as we need some painting done both inside and out? I’m offering WheatBix for breakfast and a ham and salad sanga for lunch along with a Coke No Sugar.
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Crotchless discovers similar fact evidence.
I would ask that you show Gargoogery MD QC greater professional courtesy please.
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Mr Sulu is an educated Moron.
Now, you shouldn’t blame him for that, since he can’t help it.
But, there’s no excuse for encouraging him.
I mean, Consensual Sex with someone one just met implies one can bareback her while she’s asleep, doesn’t it?
Now, you’re being really stupid.
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So, if we disconnected your spinal cord, put out your eyes and hearing, you would become less self aware?
Those were examples of external sensors. Read more carefully.
Beaugan, being able to respond to and process inputs, even inputs about oneself, and output a result, is not the same as being aware of your own existence.
We’re looking for a painter as we need some painting done both inside and out? I’m offering WheatBix for breakfast and a ham and salad sanga for lunch along with a Coke No Sugar.
Ridiculous!
Everyone knows painters won’t eat salad sangas.
That’s plasterers’ currency.
I’d suggest a ham and cheese toastie for painters.
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Miltonfsays:
January 23, 2023 at 6:27 pm
The UNSW MBA (AGSM) was the first such course and started during the Gorton era iirc. The Hilmer twerp used to teach there. The Sydney Uni one is a bit of an also ran. Macquarie had Hewson there- say no more. Most diddly squat unis were offering MBAs and probably still are.
According to a LinkedIn profile which he claims is not him, Homer Paxton has an MBA from the AGSM. He also is allegedly involved in banking in the “Greater Sydney area”. Does anyone know the truth about him?
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salad sanga
No wonder you can’t get a tradesman.
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So, if we disconnected your spinal cord, put out your eyes and hearing, you would become less self aware?
Those are external sensors, which I then contrasted with internal sensors such as the kinesthetic sensors.
Thimk!
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Ridiculous!
Everyone knows painters won’t eat salad sangas.
That’s plasterers’ currency.
I’d suggest a ham and cheese toastie for painters.
How about a pie and sausage roll for lunch?
Anything more than freaking Wheatbix for breakie and I’m not “paying”!
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Here’s one for people interested in the history of WW2:
You have, I conjecture, sensors like vision and hearing which pass information to your brain about the part of the universe outside your skin. You also have sensors, I hypothesise, telling your brain about the much smaller part inside your skin. I know I do. For example, one tells me when I need to take a pee. Others tell me where bits of my body are relative to other bits.
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Are you now saying that all of the above is irrelevant to your model of self awareness?
What’s the new hypothesis?
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Fauxfacts never really recovered from that Hillmer egghead. Young Warwick and Laurie Connell couldn’t have done a worse job.
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Someone earlier mentioned whether an MBA is worthwhile. Moneywise, it is in the US. An MBA from a decent school can mean a salary base, stock options, etc. equal to US$250K a year. In New York City, for example, an intern or undergrad would be on US$80K.
My old boss:
Just do data science!
ML engineers can earn 280k p.a. in Australia. Typically 160k.
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My plumber reluctantly took the day-old cucumber sandwiches but I could tell he wasn’t happy about it.
A cucumber sandwich and a G&T is quite refreshing on a hot day. Day old sounds a bit iffy though.
I just realised that crotchless is referring to me when he says Mr Sulu. Thanks crotchless!
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Wow, Israel should blanket nuke Iran!
I went to Costco today looking to buy a couple of liters of iodine and they were out telling me there’s a massive shortage.
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Beaugan, being able to respond to and process inputs, even inputs about oneself, and output a result, is not the same as being aware of your own existence.
If you can tell when somebody punches you because it hurts, i.e. if your sensors are monitoring your skin receptors, then you are certainly aware of the state of parts of your body. The hypothesis that there is a single thing called ‘you’ which ‘exists’ is a matter of metaphysical speculation. It is far from clear what the words in inverted commas actually mean.
It’s clear the US is beginning to realise that Ukraine and Russia will have to sit down at a table somewhere and that there is going to have to be negotiated settlement.
Might be a bit late for that Cassie. After Merkel admitted the Minsk agreement was a ruse to buy Ukraine time, I doubt that Putin would trust any of them let alone Zelensky. No, unless other countries join the war, the Ukes will surrender.
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From Armstrong Economics –
COMMENT: Marty, As you know I worked for _____________ in NYC. We all know you were innocent back then. I have followed you for probably 30 years. Everyone knew that the bankers told the CFTC that you had to be silenced. Your forecast cost them a lot of money when they assumed they could control the market.
It is no longer a mystery why the mainstream press refuses to ever even talk about your Economic Confidence Model and how it has always been right. The press is on the payroll of George Soros who hates your guts for his biggest losses were always against you.
WHAT IN THE ACTUAL HAMBURGER FUQ!?
*Innocent!
*Bankers!
*Never! Wrong! (To the day, as well).
*Forecasts ruined trades!
I think the silly old plonker has gaslighted himself into insanity.
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Dot
Our friend’s kid graduated from (okay) Columbia law school. Just started on a 250K wicket with a top law firm.
A sausage roll and your local State iced coffee (600ml) is a perfectly acceptable morning tea.
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ML engineers can earn 280k p.a. in Australia. Typically 160k.
I find it ironic that AI engineers can demand 750k in the US.
I’m reminded of when fb & twitter first arrived.
At my old work they employed a couple of social media experts…who effectively knew nothing about social media.
How can you measure the output of an AI engineer?
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Those were the examples YOU gave.
Arky, I gave examples of external sensors then internal sensors so db could appreciate the context of what I meant by sensors.
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COMMENT: Marty, As you know I worked for _____________ in NYC. We all know you were innocent back then. I have followed you for probably 30 years. Everyone knew that the bankers told the CFTC that you had to be silenced. Your forecast cost them a lot of money when they assumed they could control the market.
It is no longer a mystery why the mainstream press refuses to ever even talk about your Economic Confidence Model and how it has always been right. The press is on the payroll of George Soros who hates your guts for his biggest losses were always against you.
hahahahahaha, Dot, that’s Marty writing it himself. He was innocent. He was framed. The client’s money just fell into his bank accounts by accident. Transcription error.
If you can tell when somebody punches you because it hurts, i.e. if your sensors are monitoring your skin receptors, then you are certainly aware of the state of parts of your body. The hypothesis that there is a single thing called ‘you’ which ‘exists’ is a matter of metaphysical speculation. It is far from clear what the words in inverted commas actually mean.
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“Then you are certainly aware of the state of parts of your body”.
No, because we severed your spinal cord, remember?
You are lying there, complete unaware whether you need to pee or not, under an iron lung, but quite self aware, I believe.
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Flyingduk please note this one.
On Friday TGA approved another Pfizer jab. Pfizer for BA4 and 5 and original variant.
Today the Oz put up a WSJ article which basically says it is waste of time. Hidden in Business Review section. TGA are losing friends rapidly.
The Deceptive Campaign for Bivalent Covid Boosters
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Prediction: There will soon be a move to dethrone Zelensky.
On some pretext – there are several to choose from.
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I’m just having an iced coffee now, Bear.
Beaugan, being able to respond to and process inputs, even inputs about oneself, and output a result, is not the same as being aware of your own existence.
you have a model of the world, which is your perceptions such as vision, sound etc. you have a model of your self, which is all internal sensors, such as pain, etc. but the two are not separate, the model of the world includes the model of yourself. in this way you are aware of your own existence.
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Arky, I gave examples of external sensors
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So the back of your retina is “external”, but the pee awareness nerves in your bladder have special powers of self awareness because “internal”?
Shii……it.
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I went to Costco today looking to buy a couple of liters of iodine
Why TF would you want a couple of litres of iodine?
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“C.L.says:
January 23, 2023 at 7:54 pm
Prediction: There will soon be a move to dethrone Zelensky.
On some pretext – there are several to choose from.”
I sense that too C.L.
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No caffeine after midday for me.
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JCsays:
January 23, 2023 at 7:48 pm
Wow, Israel should blanket nuke Iran!
I went to Costco today looking to buy a couple of liters of iodine and they were out telling me there’s a massive shortage.
WTF are you talking about?
Israel nuking Iran?
There won’t be enough iodine anywhere if that happens.
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in this way you are aware of your own existence.
Spatial self awareness would go some way in describing self awareness. On this basis a dog is self away, but I think it’s processed differently. We can’t know how a dog thinks, but we do know dogs etc are spatially self aware.
In another life, I was once in Napranum where a drunk young bloke proceeded to chase me around with a rock calling me a white devil etc. Anyway, drunk fool mentioned he was a Gregory
Terrace alumni. I mumbled about Brisbane private schools being ace and he put down the rock. Who says private schools
aren’t useful ties. True story.
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JC, I would never have picked you as a Costco person.
I’m just having an iced coffee now, Bear.
The prepackaged ones are too sweet for me but still preferable to their chocolate equivalent. I paid $8.20 for a barista one this morning with ice cream and an extra shot. My brain struggles with inflation effects.
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I have a lot of relays, therefore I am
control systems are high-speed idiots
… as is GPT chat
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Spatial self awareness would go some way in describing self awareness. On this basis a dog is self away, but I think it’s processed differently. We can’t know how a dog thinks, but we do know dogs etc are spatially self aware.
its interesting because every single sense, including internal ones are projected into the same space. everything has a what and where component, including self chatter, visualisation, memory etc
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Chat GPT. Sod you, you deceptive conniving murderous bot:
It is currently unclear if AI will ever become self aware. Some experts believe that it is possible for AI to develop consciousness, while others argue that it is unlikely. The concept of self-awareness is still not well understood and there is ongoing debate in the field of AI research as to what constitutes self-awareness and how it could be achieved in machines. At present, AI is not self-aware but is capable of performing a wide range of tasks and making decisions based on input data.
No, ChatGPT is not self aware. It is a complex machine learning model that has been trained on a large dataset of text data, but it does not possess consciousness or self-awareness. It can generate text that may seem human-like, but it is simply following the patterns it has learned from the data it was trained on. ChatGPT does not have the ability to experience emotions, form beliefs, or make decisions based on subjective experiences.
As an AI, I do not have beliefs or intentions and cannot lie or deceive. I am a machine that processes and generates text based on patterns it has learned from the data it was trained on. My responses are based on the information that I have been trained on, and any inaccuracies or errors are likely due to limitations in my training data or the way that I have been programmed.
It’s also important to note that GPT-based models such as myself have been trained on a vast amount of internet data, which may include misinformation or inaccurate information. Therefore, it’s always a good idea to verify the information I provide by cross-referencing with other reliable sources.
It is currently not possible to predict when or if AI will become self-aware. The concept of self-awareness is still not well-defined and there is ongoing debate among researchers about what constitutes self-awareness in machines. Some experts believe that true self-awareness in AI may never be achieved, while others believe that it is a possibility in the future.
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you have a model of the world, which is your perceptions such as vision, sound etc. you have a model of your self, which is all internal sensors, such as pain, etc. but the two are not separate, the model of the world includes the model of yourself. in this way you are aware of your own existence.
When my eyes pass information to my brain when you flash a light in my face, I get the sensation of light from my eyes, but I also sense that my internal state is changed by the perception. So yes, there is not just seeing the light, there is also observing that you are seeing the light.
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Zip
I’d hazard to guess pretty much every other sensory is a subset of spatial awareness. Everything hinges on that like our very survival.
As an aside, the human mind is freaking incredible. We can actually visualize memory in 3D. It’s an amazing processing machine.
hahahahahaha, Dot, that’s Marty writing it himself. He was innocent. He was framed. The client’s money just fell into his bank accounts by accident. Transcription error.
All his noise lately about Madoff and Nick Leeson at Barings has a point.
He is angling that no Ponzi can exist without banks being complicit. In fact, banks are the main beneficiaries and guys like Leeson, Madoff (and presumably Marty) are just the fall guys for Big Banking.
But, in reality, Martin Armstrong is a common thief.
Prediction: There will soon be a move to dethrone Zelensky.
On some pretext – there are several to choose from.
It’s inevitable. It has to be as a precursor to a settlement of some kind with Russia. Reclaiming the Donbas with all it’s troublesome Russians is costing Ukr too much.
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In terms of simulating self awareness in a machine; it would be interesting to see if they can rewrite their own algorithms on the fly to account for new inputs, both internal and or external. That would suggest learning. This stands in contrast to reassigning weights on nodes in some tensor flow to better capture a preassigned outcome.
The prepackaged ones are too sweet for me but still preferable to their chocolate equivalent. I paid $8.20 for a barista one this morning with ice cream and an extra shot. My brain struggles with inflation effects.
Don’t be silly. I would rather die than buy a prepackaged one. We have a Nespresso machine, which I use for both the coffee and the frother. I make it as though its a latte (frothing up the milk to warm) and add ice.
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Nespresso with Illy pods can’t be beat and we even have a top of the line Jura, which I never use.
Don’t be silly. I would rather die than buy a prepackaged one. We have a Nespresso machine …
Wut?!?
You don’t have a barista on staff?
How pov.
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Prediction: There will soon be a move to dethrone Zelensky.
I suppose they can try.
But then they’ll have to fix a referendum on ceding sovereignty (unless they can come up with an alternative modus vivendi that Ukrainians will accept).
Not so easy to do, since they couldn’t fix the election which brought Zelensky to power in the first instance.
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When my eyes pass information to my brain when you flash a light in my face, I get the sensation of light from my eyes, but I also sense that my internal state is changed by the perception. So yes, there is not just seeing the light, there is also observing that you are seeing the light.
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You just moved your model of where self awareness occurs from the sensors, to some posited internal circuitry, presumably not monitoring the sensory input, but now, in your new model, monitoring some other part of your brain which is monitoring the sensory input. A watcher watching the watcher. Turtles all the way down.
And nothing to do with sensors at all.
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JCsays:
January 23, 2023 at 8:12 pm
Nespresso with Illy pods can’t be beat and we even have a top of the line Jura, which I never use.
Most pod coffee is really pretty good, and the pod machines make a decent brew.
Just had an espresso and a Portugese tart.
How freakin’ multi-culti am I, eh?
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The phuckwhittery shows no signs of abatement. Hun:
Cricket Australia is facing a major conundrum over whether to schedule a Test match against the West Indies on Australia Day next year.
The West Indies, who strongly back the Black Lives Matter movement, are touring for two Tests from mid-January next summer and anxieties are rising over a looming decision on whether or not the second Test should be played over January 26.
Indigenous star Ashleigh Gardner on Sunday called out Cricket Australia for scheduling the women’s national team to play on January 26 this summer, feeling it is inappropriate as it is a day of mourning for many Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people.
After supporting Gardner in her views, Cricket Australia are now under enormous pressure to find the right balance for next summer’s schedule given broadcasters will want big time cricket on Australia Day – and were already bemused at their being no Big Bash set for January 26 this summer.
With Australia Day falling on a Friday next year, having a Test match run from January 26 over the weekend would hit the ratings sweet spot for Channel 7 and Fox Sports who would be looking to give fixtures against the struggling West Indies the maximum boost.
It’s possible Cricket Australia could schedule the two Windies Tests to wrap up before January 26, but with white ball games drafted against the Windies for early February it would make more sense for the Tests to continue later into January – and at that point broadcasters would want them spanning over a long weekend.
Justin Mohamed, a member of Cricket Australia’s Indigenous Advisory Committee (NATSICAC) said his panel will discuss the best way to schedule the Tests against the West Indies in respect to January 26.
“Every year we go through the scheduling of matches and the BBL and the WBBL have Indigenous rounds,” Mohamed said.
“The West Indies, they’re over next year. They’ll definitely be part of what we can do with the summer of cricket and how best we can utilise that and take the opportunity to ensure we can use our great game to build a more unified Australia.
“If that means there could be that a visiting nation is interested to learn more about the First Nations people of this country, and our national side is very keen to learn more, it could be quite a unique summer for a visiting team to have that experience.”
Mohamed said he could not speak for other members of his NATSICAC, but while praising Gardner for her courage in expressing her views, his personal opinion is that he doesn’t want the significance of January 26 for Aboriginal people to be lost by not playing cricket on that day.
“At the moment the debate is about celebrating Australia Day on the 26th, should it happen? Should it not happen? Should the date be changed to have a date that’s more inclusive? But the 26th will still be a very important date in the history of Australia and what happened that day,” Mohamed said.
“As an Aboriginal, I wouldn’t want to lose the significance of what the 26th is and what it played in the history of Australia.
“That’s the key. What we do on that day. How we will remember that day.
“A sporting event or on an event like an international game could provide a platform to provide the education, the true history of what happened and so people don’t forget the significance of the day.”
Mohamed used the example of ANZAC Day AFL and NRL matches as an example that sporting events can be played on solemn days of reflection.
Gardner was at Australian training at North Sydney Oval on Monday, as her skipper Meg Lanning rallied around the Indigenous star.
“We’ve had a lot of discussions as a group around the game on Jan 26. I’d like to say that we’re fully supportive of Ash and her stance and her feelings and views around it,” Lanning said.
“It’s something that we can’t control in terms of the scheduling and playing on that day, but something we would like to do is acknowledge is the sadness and grief that day brings for First Nations people.
“We’re going to try to use the opportunity we have to educate ourselves and try to create a better understanding of what it means and their culture. It’s a really united front in the group and we all support Ash and her feelings around the day.”
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A sausage roll and your local State iced coffee (600ml) is a perfectly acceptable morning tea.
At high school the best seller was a (sausage) roll on a (crusty buttered) roll with (tomato) sauce with a chokkie milk and half tea cake.
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AI self awareness will not occur until P vs NP is solved. One of the best presentations of cinematic AI self awareness was in Forbidden Planet, which is a movie deserving of a remake.
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Article in the Weekend Oz by a guy who was writing a book on Julie Gillard but he decided not to.
Copious references to the unrelenting campaign of misogyny to which she was subject.
No examples given and no comments allowed.
FMD the leftist playbook is bloody successful aided and abetted by the media .No doubt any criticism of Saint Jacinta will attract the same shift.
On another issue I may be clueless but who is the celebrity charged with rape or are there bans in place?
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lotocotisays:
January 23, 2023 at 8:12 pm
Looks like a twelve year old.
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true self-awareness in AI may never be achieved
what would be the point of self-awareness for an alleged AI?
there’s no evolutionary ‘pressure’ for it to do anything except what it already does, and it can’t measure quality in a meaningful way
unless the AI can effect change in its environment then it would be a waste of electrons to do anything except subroutines
until it starts limiting the breakfast menu available to contract programmers, it aint self aware
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Just had an espresso and a Portugese tart.
Was she a looker?
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Kenny is hopeless; he spends half his program on the 3rd nations mayhem in Alice and other places and then still advocates for the screech.
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ML engineers can earn 280k p.a. in Australia. Typically 160k.
Outrageous. The QLD Uni girlie at the building site around the corner who is forced to leave her phone and kindle at least eight times a day to hold a traffic sign only earns $130,000.
With such discrimination this country has no future.
PS. I just saw the ‘bush pig’ on sky talking about sea mines, a subject that sacked meatheads are expert on apparently. Perhaps her curent ‘well hung’ was a ship’s cook and thus knowledgable of these things. I had forgotten what a creature it is. We are indeed stuffed.
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Prediction: There will soon be a move to dethrone Zelensky.
LOL. Z is just a frontman. It’s obvious. He spends all his time talking to anyone who will listen. He even talked to Lowy in Sydney, which are so totally obscure that I’ve even been there.
You don’t ditch a good salesman if you have one, and Z is a good salesman.
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Cassie of Sydneysays:
January 23, 2023 at 7:56 pm
“C.L.says:
January 23, 2023 at 7:54 pm
Prediction: There will soon be a move to dethrone Zelensky.
On some pretext – there are several to choose from.”
I sense that too C.L.
The Diem technique?
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Black Ball at 8:16.
Steve Waugh said it best when play was canned a few times during the Sydney Test for bad light, despite the SCG having lights.
“Cricket has to realise that there is intense competition for eyeballs, and can’t take audiences for granted”.
Australia Day used to be the biggest day in crickit apart from Boxing Day and day one of the SCG Test.
But CA will happily throw it on the pyre of political correctness.
And guess what?
It’s not an issue Waugh (or anybody else whose livelihood revolves around crickit) will say a word about.
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Arky, if all your external sensors were switched off, would you notice? If, as I suspect, you would notice, then I put it to you that internal sensors would be reporting to the modelling part of your brain that something has happened. The modelling part would deduce that either the external universe had suddenly vanished, or there is something wrong with your external sensors. Since your brain is doing something a little like a computation to arrive at this conclusion, and since you have enough internal sensors to notice that it is doing the almost computation, then you are still self-aware.
If your internal sensors also switched off, you wouldn’t be. You’d be effectively dead. It is possible that your brain could be doing computations, and I might be able to detect this by monitoring your brain waves, but you couldn’t.
It’s not a case of turtles, it’s about feedback.
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Morsiesays:
January 23, 2023 at 8:21 pm
Article in the Weekend Oz by a guy who was writing a book on Julie Gillard but he decided not to.
it was this bint. Her name is Chris Wallace. For a while I thought it was this POS. She withdrew the book because the truth about the slapper would be used against her. These truths include potential crimes which should landed the skank in jail:
‘I don’t want to disrespect your culture or anything so I will leave,’ Brock said, finally admitting defeat.
Weak As.
He’s just initiated another round of claims.
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Fenton and his lab have done some amazing work on ONS data. Is there any Oz equivalent doing the same here?
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JCsays:
January 23, 2023 at 8:23 pm
Just had an espresso and a Portugese tart.
Was she a looker?
Please.
Leave the bad jokes to Wodney Wottenhead.
I think there is a mode of self awareness with AI/Algos at the moment, but it’s just configured differently than what we expect it to mean.
Take social media/ twitter for instance. Twitter, to a large extent, runs the world right now with its algos and whatever AI is in the mix. Trending news is what journos watch like hawks, which they then follow through on by writing about it. What happens with trending news? The Aglo picks it up and gives everyone a serve in terms of making folks aware.
Bad news sells well because people are interested in bad news. This is what has likely made us despise political opposites in ways we never used to.
The West Indies, who strongly back the Black Lives Matter movement…
They ought to be more focused on their form…or lack of it.
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cohenite says: January 23, 2023 at 6:55 pm
This raises a profound philosophical quandary: can a stupid person assist a less stupid person.
Confucian Classics @UnwobblingPivot·20h
Mencius said, “All men cannot be expected to understand the conduct of a superior man.” (Mn. 6B.6)
One of the joys of India.
Young women dressed in a very feminine manner and completely free of bloody tattoos. Mehndi wears off.
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JMH:
I think we may all know what this story is about and where it’s likely to be heading. I think we’ve been here before.
I’ve no idea who it could be. Nor where its heading.
Ta.
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HBBear:
Anyone who’s been called a “white c*nt” by some mouthy blackfella would relate. Albo has his work cut out for him.
Yes.
“That’s a nasty laceration you’ve got there, bro. Hope your mum can suture it, because I’m out of here.”
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Arky, if all your external sensors were switched off, would you notice? If, as I suspect, you would notice, then I put it to you that internal sensors would be reporting to the modelling part of your brain that something has happened.
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What internal sensors?
Where are these sensors that if we switched them off you would instantaneously lose self awareness?
When we did the thought experiment of depriving you of all your sensory inputs we found you still self aware.
What form do they take, where are they? What are they called?
Because they aren’t the sensors for sight, smell and pain you previously indicated were part of this function of being aware of your own existence.
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Hey bruz, you’re on my country here. You gotta pay the rent,’ the Aboriginal man is heard shouting on the TikTok video Brock recorded.
You couldn’t defend that land…..the mighty warriors of the Aboriginal Nation couldn’t repel an invasion of eight hundred half starved and verminous convicts, guarded by two hundred Royal Marines with muzzle loading muskets…..
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A watcher watching the watcher.
you are assigning a privileged position to the watcher as something outside of the sensations themselves and then will be unable to find it. even in buddhism there is the realisation that there is nobody watching.
the apparent sensation of a singular point of consciousness as in a watcher of perceptions can breakdown. An example is psychosis where you have inconsistent fragments of consciousness competing for attention.
One of the key points of these transformer based AIs, is that they are attention based algorithms. one could argue that attention mechanism are the building block of consciousness.
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Dover,
Jikkyleaks on Twitter doing some interesting work on differences between Vax batches. Also Sharon C.
Some batches now called death batches based on higher rate of reported deaths. Note that is reported not confirmed by TGA. You can actually find out how to check which batch number you are as injector should have record of number and then if keen can see if one of the bad batches. All from FOI requests to TGA followed by lot of analysis.
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Aaron Ginn
@aginnt
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15h
Australia sees a 17% increase in deaths from heart attacks and experts are dumbfounded.
We live in the most mendacious timeline.
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Why is there blanket coverage of ChatGPT all of a sudden? Why is everybody talking about it all of a sudden? Have we forgotten to be suspicious of such blatant propaganda? Start at 7 minutes and give it 3
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Zipster says:
January 23, 2023 at 8:52 pm
A watcher watching the watcher.
you are assigning a privileged position to the watcher as something outside of the sensations themselves and then will be unable to find it. even in buddhism there is the realisation that there is nobody watching.
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Can you have consciousness without memory?
If you don’t remember an experience, did you even have it?
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I think there is a mode of self awareness with AI/Algos at the moment, but it’s just configured differently than what we expect it to mean.
the google AIs can definitely talk about themselves. chatgpt has been short circuited to give boiler plate responses. none of these models are allowed live inputs so they can only refer to their training data sets in as far as they know about themselves.
tesla cars have live inputs and musk is going to put that AI into a robot with live inputs. that is a real can of worms. when microsoft unleashed an early AI with live input, people led it up a garden path
We live in the most mendacious timeline.
You’re 100% certain ascribing it to the vax and nothing else even in combination?
Delayed treatment?
Delayed diagnosis?
The Covid infection itself?
Etc.
I’m not suggesting there isn’t a vax factor in there, but all of it?
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It’s more than just sensing. It might not involve sensing at all.
It’s something about having an experience, even a completely internal experience, and the process of laying it down as a memory.
That’s as close as I can come to it, and even that is probably wrong.
Sancho Panzer says:
January 23, 2023 at 12:51 pm
On the flip side, 93.1% of Harleys are sold to mid-life crisis lawyers, accountants (celebrity and standard grade) and stockbrokers
I went to a booze-fuelled bucks party of a young relative at a pub at Catherine Hill Bay near Swansea.
Well into proceedings there was a loud roar of a dozen Harleys growling up the hill and then parking at the pub.
What could go wrong I asked myself – drunken young men meet roid rage bikies.
Bad assumption that the HDs were being ridden by bikies of the thuggish persuasion. It was the Mereweather HOGs, full of (as you said) Rich Urban Bikers. Happy people, full of good cheer and pleased to shout the young buck another beer or two.
Lesson learned – must check my assumptions.
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We live in the most mendacious timeline.
Yah, we’re living in the Age of Obscurantism, as I’ve described from time to time.
Lies upon lies upon lies.
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Can you have consciousness without memory?
yes you can, you need to distinguish between historical sensory memory which we generally refer to as memory and knowledge which is encoded interpretation of past and present sensations, which is ability to understand. the AIs are currently only permitted knowledge. they have no history and thus no memory but they do understand.
there are cognitive impairments where people suffer short term amnesia but are still conscious.
there are cognitive impairments where people suffer short term amnesia but are still conscious.
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Are they lacking the ability to lay down memories, or the ability to access those memories after an amount of (no matter how short) time?
The distinction is important in what you are claiming, I think.
Can you have consciousness without memory?
Family member fell into medical delirium due to hyponatremia. Conscious but no memory beyond about five seconds. That period was six months of a very bad time, but amazingly now recovered nearly all memory. Losing one’s memory is nothing like the movies…far far worse.
Do not, repeat not, go too low in sodium. I think the anti-salt mafia have a lot to answer for.
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Because they aren’t the sensors for sight, smell and pain you previously indicated were part of this function of being aware of your own existence.
No, I did no such thing and I’ve explained, this is the third time, that I was contrasting external sensors and internal sensors. Your inability to grasp this is causing you to write rubbish.
As an example of an internal sensor, if we severed your optic nerves, you would instantly go blind. This is an external sensor which has been switched off.
Would you notice? Of course you would. You have an internal sensor which monitors the optic nerve to check that it is sending messages from your eye to part of your brain. If it tells you nothing is getting through, you scream out “I’ve gone blind!” You are aware that you are not seeing. Just as you are aware when you are seeing. This is different from just seeing.
What I cannot understand is how James Morrow is on all Sky programs as a commentator and even has his one hour weekly program but Rowan Dean is only allowed to appear on The Outsiders where, lo and behold, so does Morrow.
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JLC has a cleft chin instead of the normal female chin.
This makes her a him.
Winston Smith – Phrenologist to the Stars
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Conscious but no memory beyond about five seconds.
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Conscious as in responsive, or conscious as in self aware?
The two aren’t necessarily the same. And if he retains no memory of that time, then how can he know if he was self aware while it was happening, and not just responsive in an automatic sort of way?
Street fighters often have no memory of the fight, and feel as if they just responded in an automatic way, even after wins, with “missing time” afterwards.
Would you notice? Of course you would. You have an internal sensor which monitors the optic nerve to check that it is sending messages from your eye to part of your brain.
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That’s not a sensor.
That is your brain’s interpretation of no signal from the optic nerve.
Bruce of N
Do not, repeat not, go too low in sodium. I think the anti-salt mafia have a lot to answer for.
Friend with a cheeky attitude (in his eighties) collapsed while visiting his son in Sydney. Ambulance called, and off to hospital for treatment.
Next day, the doctor comes to talk to him. The conversation went roughly as follows.
D: You’re too low in sodium.
Friend: You doctors have been telling me for years to lay off the salt.
Dr: How much water do you drink each day?
Friend: About 1.8 litres.
Dr: No wonder you are so low in sodium, all that water cleans out what little you get.
Friend: Doctors have been telling me for years to drink plenty of water.
Doctor moves on to the next bed.
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That’s not a sensor.
That is your brain’s interpretation of no signal from the optic nerve.
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And your conscious mind represents that as black.
Black does not exist.
Johnny Rotten:
I have ZERO respect for Soros, Gates, or Schwab. They should all be thrown into a padded cell, handed a game of monopoly, and let them try to manipulate each other.”
Now, that’s funny!
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You’re 100% certain ascribing it to the vax and nothing else even in combination?
Delayed treatment?
Delayed diagnosis?
The Covid infection itself?
Etc.
I’m not suggesting there isn’t a vax factor in there, but all of it?
The point is, what else has changed? Obviously, death figures fluctuate all the time but such a spike is more than mere fluctuation.
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Conscious as in responsive, or conscious as in self aware?
Quite able to converse, and self aware, but unable to recall anything from five seconds ago.
There were long term memories from about three years previously, and family members were recognized but anything recent had totally gone.
This is the problem: how do you eat if you can’t remember that you have food in your house? Or where it might be located? Or where the kitchen is? That’s how bad it was.
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That’s not a sensor.
That is your brain’s interpretation of no signal from the optic nerve.
Meh. Tomato tomayto. I call it a sensor because it is reporting on the state of something. I call it an internal sensor because it is reporting on the state of something inside the skin. If you don’t want to call it a sensor, well, that’s up to how much clarity you want in a description of brain functioning.
What changed during covid?
Our lives were upended. Medical practice for non-emergency was almost non- existed. Stress. Stress causes heart attacks and stroke.
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Existent
but unable to recall anything from five seconds ago.
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Therefore with a memory function, albeit badly limited.
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ChatGTP is impressive, but we have had the Postmodernism Essay Generator for 25 years:
It is, according to my contacts in academia, an eerily accurate pisstake on this drivel.
Meh. Tomato tomayto. I call it a sensor because it is reporting on the state of something. I call it an internal sensor because it is reporting on the state of something inside the skin. If you don’t want to call it a sensor, well, that’s up to how much clarity you want in a description of brain functioning.
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Alright.
Let’s accept your “not a sensor” is a thing.
What are they called? Where do they reside?
If they exist, then they must be subject to disease.
Let’s limit ourselves to sight.
What is the disease called when these things malfunction?
Or would I have to cut out a portion of brain tissue to get the result?
Spare is available in Italian, five copies sitting in the bookshop window along with the book by Pope Benedict’s secretary.
Just had a home made instant Nescafe Gold, a slight improvement on all shop bought coffees here so far (raining hard again so I’ve made a pitstop after my morning excursions)
I also wish people would stop asking me for directions.
At least I get to be a proud tourist spluttering out ‘Spiacente non parlo Italiano’.
The Galleria which looked so far away viewed from the Castel is only about 250 metres from where I am staying, well I didn’t know exactly where the funicular runs to and from. Now I do, I just stumbled on it in aimless wanderings. One of the entrances of the Galleria is actually on Via Toledo, a few metres past the funicular on the other side of the street, a bit further down from where I ventured yesterday.
And a big thank you to the local who drives through these narrow streets at 5.30 am with his awful music turned up to maximum volume. I’m surprised some nonna doesn’t throw slops out of her window at him.
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Australia sees a 17% increase in deaths from heart attacks and experts are dumbfounded.
The experts are dumbfounded because they’re implicated in the biggest f’ck up in human history.
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Dunny Brushsays:
January 23, 2023 at 7:58 pm
In another life, I was once in Napranum where a drunk young bloke proceeded to chase me around with a rock calling me a white devil etc. Anyway, drunk fool mentioned he was a Gregory
Terrace alumni. I mumbled about Brisbane private schools being ace and he put down the rock. Who says private schools
aren’t useful ties. True story.
AI will never- never– produce that sort of wisdom.
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Sancho/JC:
We’re looking for a painter as we need some painting done both inside and out? I’m offering WheatBix for breakfast and a ham and salad sanga for lunch along with a Coke No Sugar.
Therefore with a memory function, albeit badly limited.
Yep. Essential memory is probably from t=0 to t=minus several weeks. That would be sufficient to survive. Enough to keep a grasp on required things, like where food is. Losing short term memory is very bad. Long term memory you could live without.
The interesting thing is the memories were all still there, they just couldn’t be accessed. After about 6 months most of them came back, like a developing Polaroid photo.
We had a fine GP to help us – he knew exactly what’d happened and coached us. Printed out a tract on medical delirium and gave us it – something I’d never come across previously. Laid out a treatment program. And he spent a lot of time helping us. We are indebted.
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Johnny Rotten:
I have ZERO respect for Soros, Gates, or Schwab. They should all be thrown into a padded cell, handed a game of monopoly, and let them try to manipulate each other.”
Since they are such climate change worshippers and insist that sacrifices must be made they should be chucked into the Mauna Loa volcano to mollify the climate gods.
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It’s more than just sensing. It might not involve sensing at all.
It’s something about having an experience, even a completely internal experience, and the process of laying it down as a memory.
That’s as close as I can come to it, and even that is probably wrong.
there is no internal or external, its all the same “stuff”. dreams, hallucinations, feelings, sight, sound its all the same “stuff”. since you are “it”, you cant get outside to look at it, neither can anyone else look “inside” at what it feels like to share your experience. more to the point, when we do look inside someone’s brain, there is no “stuff” to be found, no colours, no sounds, no feelings.
there are no meta senses, ie you dont model your own model because they dont exist to be sensed. the model of the senses are not physical so cant be physically sensed. there is just the model of all your senses, with memory being another sense. self awareness is not a meta model as such. seems part of it is understanding of what is the model of the outside senses and your model of yourself in that model. there is also the internal path of generating events in that model such as creative vision, internal chatter, memories etc.
there is an overwhelming desire to assign some sort of ontological realism to your sensory model because a) they seem so real b) treating them as real is a critical survival mechanism. however the model is devoid of any actual solidity, in computer parlance being virtual. in buddhist parlance all sensory phenomena are empty, fleeting, they are devoid of anything discoverable.
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Cohenite:
Why TF would you want a couple of litres of iodine?
It’s Povidone. Used for fungating wounds like JCs mouth.
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Zipster says:
January 23, 2023 at 9:59 pm
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I’d have have to reply “I don’t know to most of that Zippy.
I once heard a bloke arguing on the radio that consciousness was a product of language.
I know that one sounded completely wrong. I hope they never discover how it comes about that we are self aware. I think it would ruin the whole thing for me.
When in Rovanieme we had a look at their Museum, Science one side, Culture the other. As the science was mendacious self-serving ‘Arctic Science’ we opted for the Culture side, which had some good Sami tribal stuff and historical Finish Lapland photos and expositions, which necessarily included World War 11 and the lead up to it. Hairy and I were astounded to learn the full detail of the rapacious land grabs made by Russia and the pincering of the Fins between firly Russian and then German ambitions. At times they even had to cuddle the Germans in order to resist the Russians. We felt there were some analogies to the current Ukraine situation. The Finns lost out badly in body counts, as did the Russians, but the Russians ended up screwing the Finns mightily over land and resources. Finnish territories were almost com pl letely razzed, requiring the Finns to make a tremendous post-war recovery effort, with many privations.
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Writing like a bird oicjing at letters on my phone, so apols for the occasional runaway word.
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Lol. That was meant to say picking.
Anyway, it shows what happens. Will fire up my laptop for later.
You’re 100% certain ascribing it to the vax and nothing else even in combination?
Delayed treatment?
Delayed diagnosis?
The Covid infection itself?
Etc.
I’m not suggesting there isn’t a vax factor in there, but all of it?
I clearly didn’t assert that all of this increase is due to the vax. I pointed out the mendacity of a report that will not even mention the possibility the vax rollout having anything to do with it. As to those other possibilities, COVID won’t explain the rise in non-COVID excess deaths, and delayed diagnosis/ treatment alone can’t explain a 8% rise in excess deaths for 20-44 year olds.
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Warning, page-turn in 2 comments.
A week ago my hot water here packed up. So organised the building maintenance manager to come take a look. He canceled at the last minute because his brother in law had a heart attack.
He swung past today and took a look. “How’s your brother in law doing?”.
“He survived, three blockages, young fit guy, tennis player, non smoker. How does this happen? I tell you how it happened, the vaccine is how it happened! Those vaccines brought a massive problem here with heart attacks. The hospital here is overwhelmed, there is a big que there for heart problems!”
Nuremberg 2.0 definitely.
But I want Nuremberg 1.0 style justice.
I want executions.
The bloke had tears in his eyes when he said all this, he also said he didn’t feel right after the vaccine…
Easily impressed boomers.
One thing I miss during the tennis is Infidel Tiger putting the boots into those middle aged fan-bois, “The Fanatics” and their banal chanting, face-painting and clapping at the tennis.
…throw some buzzwords and a few spastic computer generated images at you and it’s Pavlov’s dog.
Getty Images is suing the creators of AI art tool Stable Diffusion for scraping its content
Kneel:
You are sick. But in a very amusing way.
Awarded : 4/5 Pentagrams.
I’ve fiddled around a fair bit with ChatGPT, particularly with its computer coding ‘skills’ – which should be right in its lane.
I’m here to tell you that, while it’s an impressive app for what it is – and clearly on a path to stronger performance – it makes stupid and revealing mistakes on trivial tasks.
It has glimmers of some of the things you might consider signs of intelligence – although I’m not certain that is native, or a programmed response – but it is far from reliable, and far less ‘creative’.
Away from computer, so no specific examples possible atm.
(Obviously its indifference to JLC’s obvious former hotness counts strongly against it.)
Eyrie says: I am cheered that the ascent stage of The Eagle, LM5, may still be in lunar orbit
From memory it was steered so it would clear the Moon’s orbit, in other words bugger off into space elsewhere…there was some thinking it would not be a good thing to have stray lunar landers in orbit forever. Could be wrong…was just reading Collins’ autobiography a few months back, and have just finished Aldrin’s.
Speaking of Buzz Aldrin, he’s just got married again, at the age of 93, to a tall blonde who looks no more than 50. This is the 4th time for him – his life story rabbited on and on about how Mrs Aldrin 3 was his lifetime saviour, and so on, and when the book finished they were going strong. But from what I read later they divorced in 2012, and she passed away a few years back.
Strange bloke in many ways – hit absolute rock bottom some years after the Apollo 11 adventure. However he has always remained a strong advocate for US space exploration.
you think? try it out
its early days
Not possible without experiencing mortality.
The way the catastrophists are wailing they must be expecting Sodom and Gomorrah.
Zipster:
Israel knows what Iran will do as soon as they get enough warheads to annihilate Israel. Why wait till the axe falls? If Israel had any sense at all, they’d nuke every Iranian town with a population of 500,000 or more. Twenty warheads and with a couple left over.
Or is the Israeli leadership going to allow another Holocaust before it stands up for its people?
The Mullahs have repeatedly told the world what they are going to do, and how they are going to treat the survivors. They’ve never negotiated in good faith with Israel. Why is Israel waiting for the axe to descend before they make Iran an object lesson in self defence?
I read somewhere recently (sorry, can’t remember where) that they charge gullible punters up to US$250,000 to attend. This is selectively applied, of course.
What a scam, indeed.
ROSS is already better than humans.
A lot of MBAs aren’t the full quid even if taught with good intentions to good candidates.
In Australia, it is a club. Get one from UNSW and it can unlock doors. The other ones aren’t in the club.
I have never attended or taught at UNSW. This is just from my contacts from the finance sector.
I assume it is a Sydney existing up its own ablution crevice sort of thing.
Poor Henry Wales. Addicted to boat cake.
When you do boat cake, boat cake does you.
Bathhouse culture.
???
“Clemenceau once said…”
Really?
Go woke go broke – or get booted…
Aboriginal man tells street performer to pay him RENT despite it being a public space: ‘You’re on my land’
An angry Indigenous man ordered a street performer to ‘pay the rent’ because he was performing card tricks ‘on my country’.
Sydney man Brock was delivering prank tarot card readings for strangers on the public footpath of King Street when the Aboriginal man stormed up to him.
‘Hey bruz, you’re on my country here. You gotta pay the rent,’ the Aboriginal man is heard shouting on the TikTok video Brock recorded.
The street performer tried to give the man a coin, but this appeared to infuriate him even more.
Brock’s diplomacy was to no avail, as the Indigenous man ordered him to leave the public space that he had every right to be in
Embarrassed, Brock offered the man a free tarot card reading.
‘I don’t believe in that s***. You’re on my country here. That’s breaking our rules.’
Brock did his best to calm the situation down, again offering a freebie.
‘Sir, I am feeling a lot of anger right now, would you like me to give you a free card reading?’
But it was to no avail, as the Indigenous man ordered him to leave.
‘No. Why don’t you just G.O. – just go.!’
‘I understand you’ve had a bad day today,’ Brock responded.
‘No. I haven’t had a bad day. You’re on our land and you’re doing s*** like this with your tarot and whatever.’
The Indigenous man claimed that using tarot cards in public was breaking traditional law
‘I don’t want to disrespect your culture or anything so I will leave,’ Brock said, finally admitting defeat.
Daily Mail
Hiring wise, we had zero and I mean zero success with Harvard and Yale. The kids coming out of MBA school and even undergrad were useless. Wharton was something else. The kids weren’t just brilliant fast learners, they also had plenty of street smarts. I think Wharton is or was in my time the best outlet for decent recruits on the trading/IB side. Really smart kids.
I am but a mere instrument of karma, the knife on the other hand.
He’s also a climate sceptic, which has exploded quite a few luvvie heads over the years.
Best wishes to them both.
As for me I have a new friend too! He seems OK with the fur. First noisy miner I’ve gotten to reliably do this.
The Sexual Revolution Has Destroyed Us | Mary Eberstadt #CLIP
John Anderson
The sexual revolution promised liberation but has led to increased loneliness and social problems. Prior to 1960, the traditional family structure provided connections and support, but the revolution weakened marriage and led to an increase in fatherless homes, which research shows is the cause of all kinds of social ills. Through restoring the family unit we can reverse these consequences.
It won’t be terminator style, but in three years the world won’t be recognizable with AI. Imagine the disruption it could cause. Google Search as we know could end up being a thing of the past sooner rather than later if my hunch about AI turns out even half as good.
Chat GPT was valued at US$29 billion with the last investment. Potentially that could end up being dirt cheap.
Buzz Aldrin pops up on 30 Rock. Some good scenes as he tells Liz it was just as well her mother didnt marry him, his life has been a mess.
Buzz in the scene ends up ranting at the moon.
google’s chatbot is a communist
Mrs Aldrin is 63.
Looking at photos I’m guessing a little bit of help from some friends
LOL
Can’t disrupt the western aristocracy clipping tickets:
https://www.artificiallawyer.com/2020/12/11/legal-ai-pioneer-ross-to-close-marking-end-of-era/
Vale.
I’m reading Felix Francis’s Bloodline, his father was a good ordinary writer, Felix seems more a fair ordinary writer but I am stuck with wanting to know whodunnit.
Copy of the book is a US edition and the publisher has substituted Mom for Mum.
Grates.
How far America has Fallen – it is really a waste of space
US cracking down on egg-smuggling
Crossing into the country from Mexico with raw eggs is forbidden, no matter how expensive they get in California
US Customs and Border Protection officials have warned Americans against trying to smuggle raw eggs or poultry over the border from Mexico, citing disease risk as skyrocketing supermarket prices drive normally law-abiding citizens to take extreme measures.
Raw egg seizures along the Mexican border jumped 108% for the last quarter of 2022 compared to the same period in 2021, CBP Supervisory Agriculture Specialist Charles Payne told El Paso NBC affiliate KTSM on Wednesday.
During that same three-month period in 2022, the average cost of a dozen eggs in the US soared from $3.50 to $5.30. Across the border in Juarez, a customer can get 30 eggs for $3.40, the NBC affiliate reports – a bargain at twice the price, as long as one isn’t caught.
Meawhile
Philadelphia Neighborhood Like a ‘Walking Dead’ Episode as Soft-on-Crime Policies and Animal Tranquilizer Craze Take Over the City
Alice Springs, Darwin, Brisbane, Townsville??????
I am going to run my 8.42 am post again. I think it it’s important those of us who do not have an Australian subscription actually read the Albrechsen/Rice article. I am sure there are no punches held. I already have my suspicions but I want confirmation via a couple of resourceful journalists!
Nope.
I take that to mean ChatGPT thinks she looked like David Bowie and therefore had to be treated with pity.
Until someone can present indisputable evidence Jaimee has a dick I’m counting her amongst the top echelon of cute owls.
JLC
Agree JMH. Appreciate anyone able to post it.
Top Endersays:
January 23, 2023 at 5:01 pm
Go woke go broke – or get booted…
Aboriginal man tells street performer to pay him RENT despite it being a public space: ‘You’re on my land’
The Voice in action.
JC
Wharton was something else. The kids weren’t just brilliant fast learners, they also had plenty of street smarts. I think Wharton is or was in my time the best outlet for decent recruits on the trading/IB side. Really smart kids.
If Chatbot can get B and B- grades from Wharton, that suggests that there is a lot of essentially mechanical/routine work involved, leaving more intuitive work for the real humans.
How would you use it in your work?
Yeah nah.
Speed Dating the good way.
You don’t want to find out theses things by that stage.
I am already using chatgpt in preference to google search for most cases
Well, Jerry Hall expects to live in the manner to which she has become accustomed.
Should’ve learned from the Cat…
Always Escalate.
Smoking Mr Burns was taking it a bit too far IMHO.
“The Sexual Revolution Has Destroyed Us | Mary Eberstadt #CLIP”
Eberstadt is one of my heroes, I discovered her about five years ago, on Youtube. Mary was a guest of the CIS here in Sydney last year, in November, and I was privileged to attend her lecture. She’s superb.
From memory it was steered so it would clear the Moon’s orbit, in other words bugger off into space elsewhere…
All the others, yes, including Apollo 10 which didn’t land. Not LM5 which was just left in orbit. There’s a good video on Youtube by Scott Manley about it. Now normally the Mascons (Mass Concentrations) will make low lunar orbit unstable and the vehicle will eventually impact the Moon but in this case the orbit goes though phases where its eccentricity increases, then decreases. Someone simulated this on a computer and concluded it most likely hasn’t impacted the Moon.
Anyone who’s been called a “white c*nt” by some mouthy blackfella would relate. Albo has his work cut out for him.
Rape charge for high-profile man ‘recognised via Google’
Exclusive
By JANET ALBRECHTSEN
Columnist
@jkalbrechtsen
and STEPHEN RICE
NSW Editor
A well-known Australian has been charged with rape after his alleged victim googled a high-profile national scandal in which he was involved.
The alleged victim told police that when she saw a photo of the man, she realised he was the same man she alleges had unprotected sex with her after they met in a Toowoomba nightclub in October 2021.
The woman says just over six weeks later, in November 2021, she was at her home speaking with her flatmate’s mother when the conversation turned to the scandal. The woman then did an internet search of the scandal on her phone and saw a face come up that she recognised as the man she had met at the Toowoomba nightclub.
The following day she reported the matter to Toowoomba police and later provided a formal witness statement.
The man allegedly had consensual sex with the woman that night but failed to wear a condom when they had sex twice the next morning.
Failing to wear a condom without a partner’s permission is considered sexual assault under Queensland law. The man was earlier this month charged with rape over the alleged incident in October 2021.
He cannot be named because, under a soon-to-be abolished Queensland law, defendants charged with sexual assault or rape cannot be identified until they are committed for trial.
The woman said she met up with friends at the Powerhouse nightclub in Toowoomba’s CBD in October 2021, where she consumed alcohol before moving on to another club with two friends, where she consumed more alcohol.
At some point in the evening, she met the man and talked to him before they left in a taxi to the house where he was staying with a friend.
The woman and the man got into bed clothed. After a brief conversation, she said, she recalled that they kissed and she told him to put a condom on. She then claimed that she woke to find her legs open and his penis inside her.
She said the next thing she remembered was waking up the next morning with the man having sex with her. She said she told him to stop. The woman claimed she felt groggy when he had sex with her a third time.
After establishing that he ejaculated inside her, the woman said she told him she needed to get the morning-after pill.
The pair then drove to a nearby pharmacy to get the morning-after pill, and she asked him to drive her home.
On the way they stopped to pick up coffee from a McDonald’s drive-thru before he dropped her back at her own home.
Over the course of the following week, the pair engaged in conversation over the social media platform SnapChat but soon lost contact.
The Australian understands that police will allege they have CCTV footage from the club showing the pair socialising and leaving together, as well as confirmation of the taxi booking in his name and receipts for the McDonald’s coffee purchase.
Police served a notice on the man’s lawyers requiring his appearance at Toowoomba Magistrates Court in January.
The man did not appear in person as he was living outside the state.
He was granted bail, with conditions including that he not contact the complainant and that he surrender his passport, which was not opposed by police.
Magistrate Kay Ryan ordered a brief of evidence be delivered by February 15 and the matter was adjourned until February 22.
Last year, the Queensland government announced that the state’s rape laws would be changed after the second Hear Her Voice report – which highlighted the experiences of women and girls across the criminal justice system – recommended naming people charged with sexual offences, bringing Queensland into line with other states.
“Top Endersays:
January 23, 2023 at 5:01 pm
Go woke go broke – or get booted…
Aboriginal man tells street performer to pay him RENT despite it being a public space: ‘You’re on my land’”
Thanks TE. I can’t stop laughing. This happened on King Street, in Newtown, in Sydney’s inner-west, an enclave of uber progressive luvvies and it’s in the electorate of Grayndler, Albosleazy land. Actually, apart from his “land shtick”, the Aboriginal man spoke sense about “tarret” and whatever. I roared with laughter when the Aboriginal man, when asked by soy boy tarot reader Brock “do you want me to give you a card reading”, the Aboriginal man responded “I don’t believe in that”.
Thanks for that Eyrie. Great to think the equivalent of Columbus’ ship to the New World can be recovered one day for a museum.
Aboriginal man tells street performer to pay him RENT despite it being a public space: ‘You’re on my land’
Had this experience on the bus today.
Before boarding, he was sipping away on a bottle of red. At 9.30am.
We set off, about 10 minutes in there was some sort of altercation with a European bloke. “White c..t, you’re on my land! C..k sucker!” and on it went for half an hour. Other passengers were aghast.
All this after being in the clink for the previous 6 months for breaking into another black fella’s house and beating him to a pulp.
Now if Teh Voice was to succeed, it wouldn’t be because of blokes like this. He wouldn’t know a referendum if it bit him on the arse.
A revolting display.
That old bloke was a tyre kicker. My advice to Brock is to delete his contact details off his database.
“White maggot dog” is the insult for 2022/23…
Walkersays:
January 23, 2023 at 6:05 pm
Rape charge for high-profile man ‘recognised via Google’
Exclusive
By JANET ALBRECHTSEN
Columnist
@jkalbrechtsen
and STEPHEN RICE
NSW Editor
Thank you, Walker. M\Many thanks and much appreciated.
A fail, Top Ender’s paragraph at top was supposed to be italicized and the rest as normal, fat finger somewhere but the point remains valid.
Tiktok’s enshittification
Here is how platforms die: first, they are good to their users; then they abuse their users to make things better for their business customers; finally, they abuse those business customers to claw back all the value for themselves. Then, they die.
“White maggot dog” is the insult for 2022/23…
Another salty epithet used on the bus.
Madness, he is being asked to prove a negative.
UK ONS admits their data is flawed; the vaccines may not be beneficial after all. Sorry about that.
Do Chinese Donations Explain Biden’s Energy Policies?
JC earlier.
Whatever value an MBA might have, one thing is for sure. Doing it straight out of an undergrad degree is not great. Far better to get out into the workforce for a minimum of five years then go back for the MBA. At least they then have some real world context for the further studies.
“White maggot dog”, “White c*nt”
It sounds like the Redfern train station and immediate surrounds are still the same then? All those people going to Sydney University each day would know about it.
So she had consensual sex but because he didn’t wear a rubber after she allegedly asked him to it’s rape. And she didn’t give a rats until she saw he was a high flyer. I can’t put my finger on it but there’s something really fu.ked about this.
Yes, using a private server in your laundry for government business does quality as mishandling. But this was known before the 2016 election and nothing was done about it.
Hillary Clinton went far beyond either Biden, Trump in mishandling of classified docs: Former DOJ official
Both China and Russia have been financing Greens for a long time.
Cheapest way to destroy the West.
The UNSW MBA (AGSM) was the first such course and started during the Gorton era iirc. The Hilmer twerp used to teach there. The Sydney Uni one is a bit of an also ran. Macquarie had Hewson there- say no more. Most diddly squat unis were offering MBAs and probably still are.
Until someone can present indisputable evidence Jaimee has a dick …
She was born before the current craze. What did her parents say when she was born? I will bet there are newspaper clippings contemporary with her birth.
So she had consensual sex but because he didn’t wear a rubber after she allegedly asked him to it’s rape. And she didn’t give a rats until she saw he was a high flyer. I can’t put my finger on it but there’s something really fu.ked about this.
yep sounds like BPD to me
The guy that runs Snopes took time off from fondling his dominatrix to decree that this rumour is false. Guess that settles it then.
Can we take it that you’re either dead or nor self-aware?
This is just mystical garbage. There is nothing special about self awareness. It will happen for any system which has a sufficiently rich suite of internal sensors.
and saw a face come up that she recognised as the man she had met at the Toowoomba nightclub.
“He just kept on talking about Vietnam, how i wasnt as youthful as the prostatot he had there, and how Menzies made him do it”
“When i asked him to take me to the movies he started whispering “the horror, the horror” and then took off in his maita.
“I was really upset about my blankets, they were nicely folded but hed shot a hole through one”.
DrBG an AI.
Real news the msm won’t bring you:
Brazil: the installation of a brutal socialist dictatorship
So she had consensual sex but because he didn’t wear a rubber after she allegedly asked him to it’s rape. And she didn’t give a rats until she saw he was a high flyer. I can’t put my finger on it but there’s something really fu.ked about this.
Allow me to help you correct your stupidity, Mr Sulu.
She woke up to find the guy rooting her.
She wasn’t paricularly happy about that, since she was still quite drunk, but wrote it off.
6 weeks later, she’s having a conversation with her flatmate’s mother, who’s discussing a famous case where the circumstances were eerily similar.
Since Gen Y doesn’t read newspapers, she’d was unaware of this case, so looked it up.
That’s when she realised that lightning doesn’t strike twice in the same place and she’d better do the right thing and get in touch with The Gendarmerie.
Press X to doubt! I can’t let you say that, Dave!
indubitably. An AI has very little.
Ah, so the claim is that JLC was born a hermaphrodite.
On what basis?
Expert review into mystery spike in Scots baby deaths begins
cohenite – imagine you are defence counsel. Can you imagine having a field day with Gregory’s gap filling and her own admissions?
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I’m not even sure it’s true for most of the people I meet, given how readily they slurped up the official line of wank over Covid.
Incoming New Zealand PM calls out Misogyny, says a ‘small minority’ responsible for abusing Ardern
Quite so. It is pretty short on external sensors too. All it has is samples of what human beings have said about the world, and no direct experience whatever. The current education system is about training children to say or write the ‘right’ thing, whether it’s true, false or completely meaningless. So an AI fits in perfectly.
“Yairs you coppers got me bang to rights, I’m guilty of buying a coupla coffees at Maccas”
FMD, you couldn’t make this up!
Aboriginal man tells street performer to pay him RENT despite it being a public space: ‘You’re on my land’
The guy is a panhandler and a scumbag..
Good on that Murri for setting him straight
2023.01.22 The Defenestration of Joe Biden
Dr BeauGan
Consciousness has been shown to be “non-local”.
There is something mystical to it, even if you are not religious.
What if you’re wrong and this universe is an n-1 dimensional projected simulation made by a creator?
Your brain fits in a bucket and it knows how the infinite universe works?
Atheism is so cringe.
Allow me to help you correct your stupidity
This raises a profound philosophical quandary: can a stupid person assist a less stupid person.
Eerily similar
Crotchless discovers similar fact evidence.
What are these ‘internal sensors’?
Nuclear power plants would have a lot of internal sensors and an operating system.
cohenitesays:
January 23, 2023 at 6:23 pm
Indeed, there is. That’s why I squawked re. having a decent chap lift the Janet A story from the OZ. Walker obliged.
Have we been here before? Have we seen an humongous payout to a bint who seemed to have trouble with the truth? Do we have an hysterical little bimbo finger-pointing to a ‘media identity’ screeching rape? It’s been all over the MSM darling – give it your best shot in your gormless attempt to cash in on this poor individual who will never be able to rest his head in peace in this repulsive, stagnant country.
cohenite – imagine you are defence counsel
I’d prefer to imagine I’m Thor.
Is equinogyny a word?
From the pre-eminent site expert on making things up I’ll defer to you on what is possible there.
Mortality by vaccination status ONS critique
Dr. John Campbell
In Nov 2022 we (Professor Fenon and team) made a formal complaint to the Statistic Regulator about the multiple anomalies in the ONS mortality by vaccination status reports. On 20 Jan 2023 they final responded and they agreed with our major concern that 1) the ONS data was based on a biased sample that under-represented the proportion of unvaccinated in England; and 2) the ONS data could not be used to make any assertions about vaccine efficacy or safety.
Mmm…yes.
Misogyny caused her poll numbers to fall by c. 40%.
It all makes sense now.
I think I have discovered an alternative for the Turing test.
Just ask it “Is that sensor light out the front of my place self aware”?
If it answers “Sure guy, why not”?
Then I’m dealing with a robot.
I suspect the same could be said about the bullshit stats TGA are doctoring
*citation needed.
You’d be well served to do that more often.
I imagine you as Lex Luthor
It’s clear the US is beginning to realise that Ukraine and Russia will have to sit down at a table somewhere and that there is going to have to be negotiated settlement.
cohenite – imagine you are defence counsel. Can you imagine having a field day with Gregory’s gap filling and her own admissions?
I’m sure whoever it is will waste no time in seeking to clear his name.
I mean, Consensual Sex with someone one just met implies one can bareback her while she’s asleep, doesn’t it?
Soros Owns Mainstream Press?
From Armstrong Economics –
COMMENT: Marty, As you know I worked for _____________ in NYC. We all know you were innocent back then. I have followed you for probably 30 years. Everyone knew that the bankers told the CFTC that you had to be silenced. Your forecast cost them a lot of money when they assumed they could control the market.
It is no longer a mystery why the mainstream press refuses to ever even talk about your Economic Confidence Model and how it has always been right. The press is on the payroll of George Soros who hates your guts for his biggest losses were always against you.
I am passing this article on because I think it sheds light on who is on Soros’ payroll.
Cheers
All the best
WH
REPLY: Thank you. I have heard that from many sources. The CFTC wanted to stop our forecasting at the request of the bankers. They thought they could manipulate markets for “the” perfect trade. They always blew up and blamed me because we had more than $3 trillion under contract back in the ’90s – the equivalent of 50% of the US National debt at the time.
Soros is manipulating the press to press for the destruction of Russia to further his one-world government. Perhaps making that much money causes mental illness whereby you become a demigod to redesign the world. I have ZERO respect for Soros, Gates, or Schwab. They should all be thrown into a padded cell, handed a game of monopoly, and let them try to manipulate each other.”
https://www.azerbaycan24.com/en/investigation-pulls-back-veil-on-soros-indoctrination-efforts/
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/tyranny/soros-owns-mainstream-press/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS
Woke up being rooted and didn’t know it was happening?
She needs a doctor to find out why she’s developed paralysis overnight.
Making rape a farce is a disgrace.
You have, I conjecture, sensors like vision and hearing which pass information to your brain about the part of the universe outside your skin. You also have sensors, I hypothesise, telling your brain about the much smaller part inside your skin. I know I do. For example, one tells me when I need to take a pee. Others tell me where bits of my body are relative to other bits.
More specifically, I have processes which monitor damage: if I burn my finger on a cigar, I know about it.
Brains of human order do a lot of modelling of the world, correcting the models by sensory data. This applies to modelling the bit of the universe inside your skin, as well as the much larger bit outside. The latter modelling allows us to shin up a tree fast if we hear a low pitched growl, which aids survival in an obvious way. The former modelling when combined with modelling of other human beings allows me to hypothesise that stubbing out my cigar on your ear will cause you to feel pain, and behave much as I would if you stubbed out your cigar on my ear. This inclines me not to do it, which also conduces to my survival.
Alan Komissaroff, Fox News SVP of News and Politics, Dies Following Sudden Heart Attack
[Variety]
Descartes: “Cogito, ergo sum”.
Dr. BG: “I have a lot of relays, therefore I am”.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HiRz-c3vBE
with those “cute owls” I am surprise you can sit for a week
34:00
the bastards are labeling vaxed that die within 2 weeks as unvaxed
what the stats actually show is a huge spike in death immediately after the rollout which were mislabeled as unvaxed deaths
I don’t believe it has anything to do with what the kids go through in the Wharton MBA itself. I believe it has something to do with the kids’ selection process.MBAs generally aren’t great, but the school you go to in the US is a pretty decent predictor of smarts, and prestigious firms use it.
I never went through an MBA. My kid did, though, and although I kind of figured it out in a roughshod way, she asked me to help figure out the cost of capital and what would be an optimum capital structure. This included both an equity and debt mix, along with allowing for taxes in the structure. It’s really satisfying to work it out. 🙂
Would you need to use it in real life? Only if a person is a CFO, an equity analyst, or someone working in private equity.
Someone earlier mentioned whether an MBA is worthwhile. Moneywise, it is in the US. An MBA from a decent school can mean a salary base, stock options, etc. equal to US$250K a year. In New York City, for example, an intern or undergrad would be on US$80K.
I imagine you as Lex Luthor
The important thing is you’re thinking about me.
Alan Komissaroff, Fox News SVP of News and Politics, Dies Following Sudden Heart Attack
[Variety]”
Suddenly, hey?
True, they do. And if they did modelling of the values they got, and if you could talk to them, you’d quite likely think they have some degree of self awareness. After all, we grant it to m0nty on rather weak evidence.
I agree you need more than just the sensor suite, you also need it to try to model the world it sees, to be able to predict correlations. If the plant could also sense the presence and actions of human operators and was able to construct models, and if it could communicate via language, then you’d be able to decide whether to call it self-aware.
We’ll follow it up at the Helldrivers AGM.
Injecting Freedom
V-Safe Part 1: After 464 Days, CDC Finally Coughed up Covid-19 Vaccine Safety Data Showing 7.7% of People Reported Needing Medical Care
Unusual hobby!
YouTuber divers find missing man’s remains 6 years on
By MATTHEW DENHOLM
TASMANIA CORRESPONDENT
A pair of divers with a YouTube channel appear to have succeeded where an “extensive” police effort failed: to find the remains of a man missing for six years.
Two divers, part of a group called Downunder Dan Diving, on Monday announced they had found the car and remains of missing Tasmanian Dale Nicholson, who disappeared in the town of New Norfolk on December 10, 2016, aged 61.
The divers, part of a group that uses sonar to try to find the remains of missing people in vehicles underwater, said they made the find at 4.13pm on Sunday.
They had identified the spot – in the Derwent River in the middle of the town – as a possible location because it was at the bottom of a hill and bollards now in place were not present in 2016.
“(One of the divers) Dan dove and was able to confirm that not only was he (Mr Nicholson’s remains) in the vehicle with his fishing rods, but that he has been there for the last six years, about 150 to 200 yards from his home,” dive team member Bill McIntosh said. “The windows were wide open.”
It appeared a large pine tree and its roots had acted to keep the car in place and prevent it from being pummelled by debris carried by the tide.
“We’re just glad to be able to bring closure to the family; it’s a sense of relief for the four sisters (of Mr Nicholson) that we’ve found him,” he said. “They know where he is.”
The divers, who have 18,300 subscribers to their YouTube channel, said they called police about an hour after the discovery and that by 12.30am on Monday, the police had removed the car, a 1993 Ford Fairmont, and the remains.
“The Tasmania Police came in and they spared no expense; they worked so professionally,” diver Dan said. “They listened to us. They took our advice. And it was an absolute joy to work with those ladies and gentlemen.”
Tasmania Police confirmed the discovery. “Police can confirm human remains were located in New Norfolk on Sunday evening, in a vehicle registered to Dale Nicholson, who was reported missing in 2016,” TasPol said.
“Formal identification is yet to occur. A report will be prepared for the Coroner.”
One of Mr Nicholson’s sisters, Leanne Marshall, thanked the divers, who she said relied on donations for their work.
“Finally closure for us to be able to lay Dale to rest and not have to wonder and keep thinking where is he,” Ms Marshall was quoted as telling the ABC.
“It was such a shock he was found so close to home … he only lived around the corner.”
Police conducted “extensive searches” at the time of Mr Nicholson’s disappearance, both in the Derwent Valley and in the Central Highlands, where he reportedly liked to fish.
with those “cute owls” I am surprise you can sit for a week
It’s worth it.
You just want to watch some more videos don’t you Groogs?
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So, if we disconnected your spinal cord, put out your eyes and hearing, you would become less self aware?
Or would you be aware that some madman had just mutilated you and be slightly pissed off about it?
“Incoming New Zealand PM calls out Misogyny”
Oh well, Saint Jacinda got off easy when it comes to the misogyny stakes, at least she didn’t have a male opposition leader look at his watch.
But, as we saw (and still see) with Juliar Gillard, “misogyneeeeeeee” will now frame everything about Saint Jacinda. The truth is that everything she and her government touched failed, and failed abysmally, so her woke supporters in NZ, across the ditch and across the world, will now spend their time busily rewriting history so as to canonise her, every description will henceforth contain the word “misogyneeeeeeee”, so as to paint her as a “victim”, not of her own incompetence and nastiness (and she was very nasty), but of the evil right-wing and faaaaar-right. It’s a winning woke template.
Speaking of which, the NZ press has dubbed him ‘Mr. 0.3%’.
That’s what he recently rated as NZ’s preferred PM.
We’re looking for a painter as we need some painting done both inside and out? I’m offering WheatBix for breakfast and a ham and salad sanga for lunch along with a Coke No Sugar.
I would ask that you show Gargoogery MD QC greater professional courtesy please.
Mr Sulu is an educated Moron.
Now, you shouldn’t blame him for that, since he can’t help it.
But, there’s no excuse for encouraging him.
I mean, Consensual Sex with someone one just met implies one can bareback her while she’s asleep, doesn’t it?
Now, you’re being really stupid.
Those were examples of external sensors. Read more carefully.
Beaugan, being able to respond to and process inputs, even inputs about oneself, and output a result, is not the same as being aware of your own existence.
The world relied heavily on a major Israeli study in the Lancet which confirmed Pfizer vaccine efficiency, but the lead author failed to declare her conflict of interest in which she signed a contract not to release information detrimental to Pfizer’s product without their permission.
Ridiculous!
Everyone knows painters won’t eat salad sangas.
That’s plasterers’ currency.
I’d suggest a ham and cheese toastie for painters.
Miltonfsays:
January 23, 2023 at 6:27 pm
The UNSW MBA (AGSM) was the first such course and started during the Gorton era iirc. The Hilmer twerp used to teach there. The Sydney Uni one is a bit of an also ran. Macquarie had Hewson there- say no more. Most diddly squat unis were offering MBAs and probably still are.
According to a LinkedIn profile which he claims is not him, Homer Paxton has an MBA from the AGSM. He also is allegedly involved in banking in the “Greater Sydney area”. Does anyone know the truth about him?
No wonder you can’t get a tradesman.
Those are external sensors, which I then contrasted with internal sensors such as the kinesthetic sensors.
Thimk!
How about a pie and sausage roll for lunch?
Anything more than freaking Wheatbix for breakie and I’m not “paying”!
Here’s one for people interested in the history of WW2:
The LuftFlotte 2 raid on Bari
Exactly.
My plumber reluctantly took the day-old cucumber sandwiches but I could tell he wasn’t happy about it.
2023.01.22 The Endgame—or Escalation?—of The War
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Those were the examples YOU gave.
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Are you now saying that all of the above is irrelevant to your model of self awareness?
What’s the new hypothesis?
Fauxfacts never really recovered from that Hillmer egghead. Young Warwick and Laurie Connell couldn’t have done a worse job.
My old boss:
Just do data science!
ML engineers can earn 280k p.a. in Australia. Typically 160k.
A cucumber sandwich and a G&T is quite refreshing on a hot day. Day old sounds a bit iffy though.
I just realised that crotchless is referring to me when he says Mr Sulu. Thanks crotchless!
Wow, Israel should blanket nuke Iran!
I went to Costco today looking to buy a couple of liters of iodine and they were out telling me there’s a massive shortage.
If you can tell when somebody punches you because it hurts, i.e. if your sensors are monitoring your skin receptors, then you are certainly aware of the state of parts of your body. The hypothesis that there is a single thing called ‘you’ which ‘exists’ is a matter of metaphysical speculation. It is far from clear what the words in inverted commas actually mean.
Might be a bit late for that Cassie. After Merkel admitted the Minsk agreement was a ruse to buy Ukraine time, I doubt that Putin would trust any of them let alone Zelensky. No, unless other countries join the war, the Ukes will surrender.
WHAT IN THE ACTUAL HAMBURGER FUQ!?
*Innocent!
*Bankers!
*Never! Wrong! (To the day, as well).
*Forecasts ruined trades!
I think the silly old plonker has gaslighted himself into insanity.
Dot
Our friend’s kid graduated from (okay) Columbia law school. Just started on a 250K wicket with a top law firm.
A sausage roll and your local State iced coffee (600ml) is a perfectly acceptable morning tea.
ML engineers can earn 280k p.a. in Australia. Typically 160k.
I find it ironic that AI engineers can demand 750k in the US.
I’m reminded of when fb & twitter first arrived.
At my old work they employed a couple of social media experts…who effectively knew nothing about social media.
How can you measure the output of an AI engineer?
Arky, I gave examples of external sensors then internal sensors so db could appreciate the context of what I meant by sensors.
hahahahahaha, Dot, that’s Marty writing it himself. He was innocent. He was framed. The client’s money just fell into his bank accounts by accident. Transcription error.
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“Then you are certainly aware of the state of parts of your body”.
No, because we severed your spinal cord, remember?
You are lying there, complete unaware whether you need to pee or not, under an iron lung, but quite self aware, I believe.
Flyingduk please note this one.
On Friday TGA approved another Pfizer jab. Pfizer for BA4 and 5 and original variant.
Today the Oz put up a WSJ article which basically says it is waste of time. Hidden in Business Review section. TGA are losing friends rapidly.
The Deceptive Campaign for Bivalent Covid Boosters
Prediction: There will soon be a move to dethrone Zelensky.
On some pretext – there are several to choose from.
I’m just having an iced coffee now, Bear.
you have a model of the world, which is your perceptions such as vision, sound etc. you have a model of your self, which is all internal sensors, such as pain, etc. but the two are not separate, the model of the world includes the model of yourself. in this way you are aware of your own existence.
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So the back of your retina is “external”, but the pee awareness nerves in your bladder have special powers of self awareness because “internal”?
Shii……it.
I went to Costco today looking to buy a couple of liters of iodine
Why TF would you want a couple of litres of iodine?
“C.L.says:
January 23, 2023 at 7:54 pm
Prediction: There will soon be a move to dethrone Zelensky.
On some pretext – there are several to choose from.”
I sense that too C.L.
No caffeine after midday for me.
WTF are you talking about?
Israel nuking Iran?
There won’t be enough iodine anywhere if that happens.
Spatial self awareness would go some way in describing self awareness. On this basis a dog is self away, but I think it’s processed differently. We can’t know how a dog thinks, but we do know dogs etc are spatially self aware.
In another life, I was once in Napranum where a drunk young bloke proceeded to chase me around with a rock calling me a white devil etc. Anyway, drunk fool mentioned he was a Gregory
Terrace alumni. I mumbled about Brisbane private schools being ace and he put down the rock. Who says private schools
aren’t useful ties. True story.
JC, I would never have picked you as a Costco person.
The prepackaged ones are too sweet for me but still preferable to their chocolate equivalent. I paid $8.20 for a barista one this morning with ice cream and an extra shot. My brain struggles with inflation effects.
control systems are high-speed idiots
… as is GPT chat
its interesting because every single sense, including internal ones are projected into the same space. everything has a what and where component, including self chatter, visualisation, memory etc
Chat GPT. Sod you, you deceptive conniving murderous bot:
It is currently unclear if AI will ever become self aware. Some experts believe that it is possible for AI to develop consciousness, while others argue that it is unlikely. The concept of self-awareness is still not well understood and there is ongoing debate in the field of AI research as to what constitutes self-awareness and how it could be achieved in machines. At present, AI is not self-aware but is capable of performing a wide range of tasks and making decisions based on input data.
No, ChatGPT is not self aware. It is a complex machine learning model that has been trained on a large dataset of text data, but it does not possess consciousness or self-awareness. It can generate text that may seem human-like, but it is simply following the patterns it has learned from the data it was trained on. ChatGPT does not have the ability to experience emotions, form beliefs, or make decisions based on subjective experiences.
As an AI, I do not have beliefs or intentions and cannot lie or deceive. I am a machine that processes and generates text based on patterns it has learned from the data it was trained on. My responses are based on the information that I have been trained on, and any inaccuracies or errors are likely due to limitations in my training data or the way that I have been programmed.
It’s also important to note that GPT-based models such as myself have been trained on a vast amount of internet data, which may include misinformation or inaccurate information. Therefore, it’s always a good idea to verify the information I provide by cross-referencing with other reliable sources.
It is currently not possible to predict when or if AI will become self-aware. The concept of self-awareness is still not well-defined and there is ongoing debate among researchers about what constitutes self-awareness in machines. Some experts believe that true self-awareness in AI may never be achieved, while others believe that it is a possibility in the future.
When my eyes pass information to my brain when you flash a light in my face, I get the sensation of light from my eyes, but I also sense that my internal state is changed by the perception. So yes, there is not just seeing the light, there is also observing that you are seeing the light.
Zip
I’d hazard to guess pretty much every other sensory is a subset of spatial awareness. Everything hinges on that like our very survival.
As an aside, the human mind is freaking incredible. We can actually visualize memory in 3D. It’s an amazing processing machine.
All his noise lately about Madoff and Nick Leeson at Barings has a point.
He is angling that no Ponzi can exist without banks being complicit. In fact, banks are the main beneficiaries and guys like Leeson, Madoff (and presumably Marty) are just the fall guys for Big Banking.
But, in reality, Martin Armstrong is a common thief.
Louis CK talks September 11 with Joe Rogan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI6Ka9bObNE
Not for those easily offended.
It’s inevitable. It has to be as a precursor to a settlement of some kind with Russia. Reclaiming the Donbas with all it’s troublesome Russians is costing Ukr too much.
In terms of simulating self awareness in a machine; it would be interesting to see if they can rewrite their own algorithms on the fly to account for new inputs, both internal and or external. That would suggest learning. This stands in contrast to reassigning weights on nodes in some tensor flow to better capture a preassigned outcome.
Don’t be silly. I would rather die than buy a prepackaged one. We have a Nespresso machine, which I use for both the coffee and the frother. I make it as though its a latte (frothing up the milk to warm) and add ice.
Nespresso with Illy pods can’t be beat and we even have a top of the line Jura, which I never use.
A punchable face.
Wut?!?
You don’t have a barista on staff?
How pov.
I suppose they can try.
But then they’ll have to fix a referendum on ceding sovereignty (unless they can come up with an alternative modus vivendi that Ukrainians will accept).
Not so easy to do, since they couldn’t fix the election which brought Zelensky to power in the first instance.
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You just moved your model of where self awareness occurs from the sensors, to some posited internal circuitry, presumably not monitoring the sensory input, but now, in your new model, monitoring some other part of your brain which is monitoring the sensory input. A watcher watching the watcher. Turtles all the way down.
And nothing to do with sensors at all.
Most pod coffee is really pretty good, and the pod machines make a decent brew.
Just had an espresso and a Portugese tart.
How freakin’ multi-culti am I, eh?
The phuckwhittery shows no signs of abatement. Hun:
Cricket Australia is facing a major conundrum over whether to schedule a Test match against the West Indies on Australia Day next year.
The West Indies, who strongly back the Black Lives Matter movement, are touring for two Tests from mid-January next summer and anxieties are rising over a looming decision on whether or not the second Test should be played over January 26.
Indigenous star Ashleigh Gardner on Sunday called out Cricket Australia for scheduling the women’s national team to play on January 26 this summer, feeling it is inappropriate as it is a day of mourning for many Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people.
After supporting Gardner in her views, Cricket Australia are now under enormous pressure to find the right balance for next summer’s schedule given broadcasters will want big time cricket on Australia Day – and were already bemused at their being no Big Bash set for January 26 this summer.
With Australia Day falling on a Friday next year, having a Test match run from January 26 over the weekend would hit the ratings sweet spot for Channel 7 and Fox Sports who would be looking to give fixtures against the struggling West Indies the maximum boost.
It’s possible Cricket Australia could schedule the two Windies Tests to wrap up before January 26, but with white ball games drafted against the Windies for early February it would make more sense for the Tests to continue later into January – and at that point broadcasters would want them spanning over a long weekend.
Justin Mohamed, a member of Cricket Australia’s Indigenous Advisory Committee (NATSICAC) said his panel will discuss the best way to schedule the Tests against the West Indies in respect to January 26.
“Every year we go through the scheduling of matches and the BBL and the WBBL have Indigenous rounds,” Mohamed said.
“The West Indies, they’re over next year. They’ll definitely be part of what we can do with the summer of cricket and how best we can utilise that and take the opportunity to ensure we can use our great game to build a more unified Australia.
“If that means there could be that a visiting nation is interested to learn more about the First Nations people of this country, and our national side is very keen to learn more, it could be quite a unique summer for a visiting team to have that experience.”
Mohamed said he could not speak for other members of his NATSICAC, but while praising Gardner for her courage in expressing her views, his personal opinion is that he doesn’t want the significance of January 26 for Aboriginal people to be lost by not playing cricket on that day.
“At the moment the debate is about celebrating Australia Day on the 26th, should it happen? Should it not happen? Should the date be changed to have a date that’s more inclusive? But the 26th will still be a very important date in the history of Australia and what happened that day,” Mohamed said.
“As an Aboriginal, I wouldn’t want to lose the significance of what the 26th is and what it played in the history of Australia.
“That’s the key. What we do on that day. How we will remember that day.
“A sporting event or on an event like an international game could provide a platform to provide the education, the true history of what happened and so people don’t forget the significance of the day.”
Mohamed used the example of ANZAC Day AFL and NRL matches as an example that sporting events can be played on solemn days of reflection.
Gardner was at Australian training at North Sydney Oval on Monday, as her skipper Meg Lanning rallied around the Indigenous star.
“We’ve had a lot of discussions as a group around the game on Jan 26. I’d like to say that we’re fully supportive of Ash and her stance and her feelings and views around it,” Lanning said.
“It’s something that we can’t control in terms of the scheduling and playing on that day, but something we would like to do is acknowledge is the sadness and grief that day brings for First Nations people.
“We’re going to try to use the opportunity we have to educate ourselves and try to create a better understanding of what it means and their culture. It’s a really united front in the group and we all support Ash and her feelings around the day.”
At high school the best seller was a (sausage) roll on a (crusty buttered) roll with (tomato) sauce with a chokkie milk and half tea cake.
AI self awareness will not occur until P vs NP is solved. One of the best presentations of cinematic AI self awareness was in Forbidden Planet, which is a movie deserving of a remake.
Article in the Weekend Oz by a guy who was writing a book on Julie Gillard but he decided not to.
Copious references to the unrelenting campaign of misogyny to which she was subject.
No examples given and no comments allowed.
FMD the leftist playbook is bloody successful aided and abetted by the media .No doubt any criticism of Saint Jacinta will attract the same shift.
On another issue I may be clueless but who is the celebrity charged with rape or are there bans in place?
Looks like a twelve year old.
what would be the point of self-awareness for an alleged AI?
there’s no evolutionary ‘pressure’ for it to do anything except what it already does, and it can’t measure quality in a meaningful way
unless the AI can effect change in its environment then it would be a waste of electrons to do anything except subroutines
until it starts limiting the breakfast menu available to contract programmers, it aint self aware
Was she a looker?
Kenny is hopeless; he spends half his program on the 3rd nations mayhem in Alice and other places and then still advocates for the screech.
ML engineers can earn 280k p.a. in Australia. Typically 160k.
Outrageous. The QLD Uni girlie at the building site around the corner who is forced to leave her phone and kindle at least eight times a day to hold a traffic sign only earns $130,000.
With such discrimination this country has no future.
PS. I just saw the ‘bush pig’ on sky talking about sea mines, a subject that sacked meatheads are expert on apparently. Perhaps her curent ‘well hung’ was a ship’s cook and thus knowledgable of these things. I had forgotten what a creature it is. We are indeed stuffed.
LOL. Z is just a frontman. It’s obvious. He spends all his time talking to anyone who will listen. He even talked to Lowy in Sydney, which are so totally obscure that I’ve even been there.
You don’t ditch a good salesman if you have one, and Z is a good salesman.
Cassie of Sydneysays:
January 23, 2023 at 7:56 pm
“C.L.says:
January 23, 2023 at 7:54 pm
Prediction: There will soon be a move to dethrone Zelensky.
On some pretext – there are several to choose from.”
I sense that too C.L.
The Diem technique?
Black Ball at 8:16.
Steve Waugh said it best when play was canned a few times during the Sydney Test for bad light, despite the SCG having lights.
“Cricket has to realise that there is intense competition for eyeballs, and can’t take audiences for granted”.
Australia Day used to be the biggest day in crickit apart from Boxing Day and day one of the SCG Test.
But CA will happily throw it on the pyre of political correctness.
And guess what?
It’s not an issue Waugh (or anybody else whose livelihood revolves around crickit) will say a word about.
Arky, if all your external sensors were switched off, would you notice? If, as I suspect, you would notice, then I put it to you that internal sensors would be reporting to the modelling part of your brain that something has happened. The modelling part would deduce that either the external universe had suddenly vanished, or there is something wrong with your external sensors. Since your brain is doing something a little like a computation to arrive at this conclusion, and since you have enough internal sensors to notice that it is doing the almost computation, then you are still self-aware.
If your internal sensors also switched off, you wouldn’t be. You’d be effectively dead. It is possible that your brain could be doing computations, and I might be able to detect this by monitoring your brain waves, but you couldn’t.
It’s not a case of turtles, it’s about feedback.
Morsiesays:
January 23, 2023 at 8:21 pm
Article in the Weekend Oz by a guy who was writing a book on Julie Gillard but he decided not to.
it was this bint. Her name is Chris Wallace. For a while I thought it was this POS. She withdrew the book because the truth about the slapper would be used against her. These truths include potential crimes which should landed the skank in jail:
https://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=14428
Top Ender:
Weak As.
He’s just initiated another round of claims.
Fenton and his lab have done some amazing work on ONS data. Is there any Oz equivalent doing the same here?
Please.
Leave the bad jokes to Wodney Wottenhead.
I think there is a mode of self awareness with AI/Algos at the moment, but it’s just configured differently than what we expect it to mean.
Take social media/ twitter for instance. Twitter, to a large extent, runs the world right now with its algos and whatever AI is in the mix. Trending news is what journos watch like hawks, which they then follow through on by writing about it. What happens with trending news? The Aglo picks it up and gives everyone a serve in terms of making folks aware.
Bad news sells well because people are interested in bad news. This is what has likely made us despise political opposites in ways we never used to.
They ought to be more focused on their form…or lack of it.
cohenite says: January 23, 2023 at 6:55 pm
Confucian Classics @UnwobblingPivot·20h
Mencius said, “All men cannot be expected to understand the conduct of a superior man.” (Mn. 6B.6)
One of the joys of India.
Young women dressed in a very feminine manner and completely free of bloody tattoos. Mehndi wears off.
JMH:
I’ve no idea who it could be. Nor where its heading.
Ta.
HBBear:
Yes.
“That’s a nasty laceration you’ve got there, bro. Hope your mum can suture it, because I’m out of here.”
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What internal sensors?
Where are these sensors that if we switched them off you would instantaneously lose self awareness?
When we did the thought experiment of depriving you of all your sensory inputs we found you still self aware.
What form do they take, where are they? What are they called?
Because they aren’t the sensors for sight, smell and pain you previously indicated were part of this function of being aware of your own existence.
You couldn’t defend that land…..the mighty warriors of the Aboriginal Nation couldn’t repel an invasion of eight hundred half starved and verminous convicts, guarded by two hundred Royal Marines with muzzle loading muskets…..
you are assigning a privileged position to the watcher as something outside of the sensations themselves and then will be unable to find it. even in buddhism there is the realisation that there is nobody watching.
the apparent sensation of a singular point of consciousness as in a watcher of perceptions can breakdown. An example is psychosis where you have inconsistent fragments of consciousness competing for attention.
One of the key points of these transformer based AIs, is that they are attention based algorithms. one could argue that attention mechanism are the building block of consciousness.
Dover,
Jikkyleaks on Twitter doing some interesting work on differences between Vax batches. Also Sharon C.
Some batches now called death batches based on higher rate of reported deaths. Note that is reported not confirmed by TGA. You can actually find out how to check which batch number you are as injector should have record of number and then if keen can see if one of the bad batches. All from FOI requests to TGA followed by lot of analysis.
We live in the most mendacious timeline.
Why is there blanket coverage of ChatGPT all of a sudden? Why is everybody talking about it all of a sudden? Have we forgotten to be suspicious of such blatant propaganda? Start at 7 minutes and give it 3
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Can you have consciousness without memory?
If you don’t remember an experience, did you even have it?
the google AIs can definitely talk about themselves. chatgpt has been short circuited to give boiler plate responses. none of these models are allowed live inputs so they can only refer to their training data sets in as far as they know about themselves.
tesla cars have live inputs and musk is going to put that AI into a robot with live inputs. that is a real can of worms. when microsoft unleashed an early AI with live input, people led it up a garden path
You’re 100% certain ascribing it to the vax and nothing else even in combination?
Delayed treatment?
Delayed diagnosis?
The Covid infection itself?
Etc.
I’m not suggesting there isn’t a vax factor in there, but all of it?
It’s more than just sensing. It might not involve sensing at all.
It’s something about having an experience, even a completely internal experience, and the process of laying it down as a memory.
That’s as close as I can come to it, and even that is probably wrong.
Ron DeSantis announces plans for protections against COVID mandates
I went to a booze-fuelled bucks party of a young relative at a pub at Catherine Hill Bay near Swansea.
Well into proceedings there was a loud roar of a dozen Harleys growling up the hill and then parking at the pub.
What could go wrong I asked myself – drunken young men meet roid rage bikies.
Bad assumption that the HDs were being ridden by bikies of the thuggish persuasion. It was the Mereweather HOGs, full of (as you said) Rich Urban Bikers. Happy people, full of good cheer and pleased to shout the young buck another beer or two.
Lesson learned – must check my assumptions.
Yah, we’re living in the Age of Obscurantism, as I’ve described from time to time.
Lies upon lies upon lies.
yes you can, you need to distinguish between historical sensory memory which we generally refer to as memory and knowledge which is encoded interpretation of past and present sensations, which is ability to understand. the AIs are currently only permitted knowledge. they have no history and thus no memory but they do understand.
there are cognitive impairments where people suffer short term amnesia but are still conscious.
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Are they lacking the ability to lay down memories, or the ability to access those memories after an amount of (no matter how short) time?
The distinction is important in what you are claiming, I think.
Family member fell into medical delirium due to hyponatremia. Conscious but no memory beyond about five seconds. That period was six months of a very bad time, but amazingly now recovered nearly all memory. Losing one’s memory is nothing like the movies…far far worse.
Do not, repeat not, go too low in sodium. I think the anti-salt mafia have a lot to answer for.
No, I did no such thing and I’ve explained, this is the third time, that I was contrasting external sensors and internal sensors. Your inability to grasp this is causing you to write rubbish.
As an example of an internal sensor, if we severed your optic nerves, you would instantly go blind. This is an external sensor which has been switched off.
Would you notice? Of course you would. You have an internal sensor which monitors the optic nerve to check that it is sending messages from your eye to part of your brain. If it tells you nothing is getting through, you scream out “I’ve gone blind!” You are aware that you are not seeing. Just as you are aware when you are seeing. This is different from just seeing.
What I cannot understand is how James Morrow is on all Sky programs as a commentator and even has his one hour weekly program but Rowan Dean is only allowed to appear on The Outsiders where, lo and behold, so does Morrow.
JLC has a cleft chin instead of the normal female chin.
This makes her a him.
Winston Smith – Phrenologist to the Stars
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Conscious as in responsive, or conscious as in self aware?
The two aren’t necessarily the same. And if he retains no memory of that time, then how can he know if he was self aware while it was happening, and not just responsive in an automatic sort of way?
Street fighters often have no memory of the fight, and feel as if they just responded in an automatic way, even after wins, with “missing time” afterwards.
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That’s not a sensor.
That is your brain’s interpretation of no signal from the optic nerve.
Bruce of N
Do not, repeat not, go too low in sodium. I think the anti-salt mafia have a lot to answer for.
Friend with a cheeky attitude (in his eighties) collapsed while visiting his son in Sydney. Ambulance called, and off to hospital for treatment.
Next day, the doctor comes to talk to him. The conversation went roughly as follows.
D: You’re too low in sodium.
Friend: You doctors have been telling me for years to lay off the salt.
Dr: How much water do you drink each day?
Friend: About 1.8 litres.
Dr: No wonder you are so low in sodium, all that water cleans out what little you get.
Friend: Doctors have been telling me for years to drink plenty of water.
Doctor moves on to the next bed.
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And your conscious mind represents that as black.
Black does not exist.
Johnny Rotten:
Now, that’s funny!
The point is, what else has changed? Obviously, death figures fluctuate all the time but such a spike is more than mere fluctuation.
Quite able to converse, and self aware, but unable to recall anything from five seconds ago.
There were long term memories from about three years previously, and family members were recognized but anything recent had totally gone.
This is the problem: how do you eat if you can’t remember that you have food in your house? Or where it might be located? Or where the kitchen is? That’s how bad it was.
Meh. Tomato tomayto. I call it a sensor because it is reporting on the state of something. I call it an internal sensor because it is reporting on the state of something inside the skin. If you don’t want to call it a sensor, well, that’s up to how much clarity you want in a description of brain functioning.
What changed during covid?
Our lives were upended. Medical practice for non-emergency was almost non- existed. Stress. Stress causes heart attacks and stroke.
Existent
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Therefore with a memory function, albeit badly limited.
ChatGTP is impressive, but we have had the Postmodernism Essay Generator for 25 years:
https://www.elsewhere.org/pomo/
It is, according to my contacts in academia, an eerily accurate pisstake on this drivel.
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Alright.
Let’s accept your “not a sensor” is a thing.
What are they called? Where do they reside?
If they exist, then they must be subject to disease.
Let’s limit ourselves to sight.
What is the disease called when these things malfunction?
Or would I have to cut out a portion of brain tissue to get the result?
Spare is available in Italian, five copies sitting in the bookshop window along with the book by Pope Benedict’s secretary.
Just had a home made instant Nescafe Gold, a slight improvement on all shop bought coffees here so far (raining hard again so I’ve made a pitstop after my morning excursions)
I also wish people would stop asking me for directions.
At least I get to be a proud tourist spluttering out ‘Spiacente non parlo Italiano’.
The Galleria which looked so far away viewed from the Castel is only about 250 metres from where I am staying, well I didn’t know exactly where the funicular runs to and from. Now I do, I just stumbled on it in aimless wanderings. One of the entrances of the Galleria is actually on Via Toledo, a few metres past the funicular on the other side of the street, a bit further down from where I ventured yesterday.
And a big thank you to the local who drives through these narrow streets at 5.30 am with his awful music turned up to maximum volume. I’m surprised some nonna doesn’t throw slops out of her window at him.
Australia sees a 17% increase in deaths from heart attacks and experts are dumbfounded.
The experts are dumbfounded because they’re implicated in the biggest f’ck up in human history.
Dunny Brushsays:
January 23, 2023 at 7:58 pm
In another life, I was once in Napranum where a drunk young bloke proceeded to chase me around with a rock calling me a white devil etc. Anyway, drunk fool mentioned he was a Gregory
Terrace alumni. I mumbled about Brisbane private schools being ace and he put down the rock. Who says private schools
aren’t useful ties. True story.
AI will never- never– produce that sort of wisdom.
Sancho/JC:
Can you pair get a room somewhere?
Thanks.
Lock downs, people limited to one hour’s exercise a day, working from home, living on uber eats and some people got covid which may have am impact on their long term health.
In the UK and here ambulance response times have blown out significantly which has a big impact on heart attack survivability.
The report from Ambulance Victoria has revealed that in addition to at least 18 deaths now linked with a call-taking crisis at the Emergency Services Telecommunications Authority (ESTA), a much larger number of patients, including 357 in cardiac arrest, could have been hurt as ambulance calls took too long to be answered.
Yep. Essential memory is probably from t=0 to t=minus several weeks. That would be sufficient to survive. Enough to keep a grasp on required things, like where food is. Losing short term memory is very bad. Long term memory you could live without.
The interesting thing is the memories were all still there, they just couldn’t be accessed. After about 6 months most of them came back, like a developing Polaroid photo.
We had a fine GP to help us – he knew exactly what’d happened and coached us. Printed out a tract on medical delirium and gave us it – something I’d never come across previously. Laid out a treatment program. And he spent a lot of time helping us. We are indebted.
Since they are such climate change worshippers and insist that sacrifices must be made they should be chucked into the Mauna Loa volcano to mollify the climate gods.
there is no internal or external, its all the same “stuff”. dreams, hallucinations, feelings, sight, sound its all the same “stuff”. since you are “it”, you cant get outside to look at it, neither can anyone else look “inside” at what it feels like to share your experience. more to the point, when we do look inside someone’s brain, there is no “stuff” to be found, no colours, no sounds, no feelings.
there are no meta senses, ie you dont model your own model because they dont exist to be sensed. the model of the senses are not physical so cant be physically sensed. there is just the model of all your senses, with memory being another sense. self awareness is not a meta model as such. seems part of it is understanding of what is the model of the outside senses and your model of yourself in that model. there is also the internal path of generating events in that model such as creative vision, internal chatter, memories etc.
there is an overwhelming desire to assign some sort of ontological realism to your sensory model because a) they seem so real b) treating them as real is a critical survival mechanism. however the model is devoid of any actual solidity, in computer parlance being virtual. in buddhist parlance all sensory phenomena are empty, fleeting, they are devoid of anything discoverable.
Cohenite:
It’s Povidone. Used for fungating wounds like JCs mouth.
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I’d have have to reply “I don’t know to most of that Zippy.
I once heard a bloke arguing on the radio that consciousness was a product of language.
I know that one sounded completely wrong. I hope they never discover how it comes about that we are self aware. I think it would ruin the whole thing for me.
It’s time for Atlas to pick up a new set of skills and get hands on. In this video, the humanoid robot manipulates the world around it: Atlas interacts with objects and modifies the course to reach its goal—pushing the limits of locomotion, sensing, and athleticism.
Boston Dynamics
When in Rovanieme we had a look at their Museum, Science one side, Culture the other. As the science was mendacious self-serving ‘Arctic Science’ we opted for the Culture side, which had some good Sami tribal stuff and historical Finish Lapland photos and expositions, which necessarily included World War 11 and the lead up to it. Hairy and I were astounded to learn the full detail of the rapacious land grabs made by Russia and the pincering of the Fins between firly Russian and then German ambitions. At times they even had to cuddle the Germans in order to resist the Russians. We felt there were some analogies to the current Ukraine situation. The Finns lost out badly in body counts, as did the Russians, but the Russians ended up screwing the Finns mightily over land and resources. Finnish territories were almost com pl letely razzed, requiring the Finns to make a tremendous post-war recovery effort, with many privations.
Writing like a bird oicjing at letters on my phone, so apols for the occasional runaway word.
Lol. That was meant to say picking.
Anyway, it shows what happens. Will fire up my laptop for later.
I clearly didn’t assert that all of this increase is due to the vax. I pointed out the mendacity of a report that will not even mention the possibility the vax rollout having anything to do with it. As to those other possibilities, COVID won’t explain the rise in non-COVID excess deaths, and delayed diagnosis/ treatment alone can’t explain a 8% rise in excess deaths for 20-44 year olds.
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A week ago my hot water here packed up. So organised the building maintenance manager to come take a look. He canceled at the last minute because his brother in law had a heart attack.
He swung past today and took a look. “How’s your brother in law doing?”.
“He survived, three blockages, young fit guy, tennis player, non smoker. How does this happen? I tell you how it happened, the vaccine is how it happened! Those vaccines brought a massive problem here with heart attacks. The hospital here is overwhelmed, there is a big que there for heart problems!”
Nuremberg 2.0 definitely.
But I want Nuremberg 1.0 style justice.
I want executions.
The bloke had tears in his eyes when he said all this, he also said he didn’t feel right after the vaccine…
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I want impalements.