Open Thread – Tue 24 Jan 2023


Andromache mourning Hector, Jacques Louis David, 1783


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cohenite
January 26, 2023 9:47 pm

Uh, it wasn’t one of your Gay Orgies, Mr Sulu.

I’ll defer to your expertise in used frenchies crotchless.

Miltonf
Miltonf
January 26, 2023 9:47 pm

One of her sisters likes having kids but doesn’t like looking after them.She has 4.Sis and her hubby have gone back to Ethiopia so they can have servants look after the kids.We are just a soft touch.

Canbra is very generous with our money and our country. That story reminds of that Kenyan lieboral mp who complained about not being able to get servants here. Grotesque and farcical.

What really makes me sick though is the existence of working poor who can barely makes ends meet- rent, groceries and they get taxed so Leigh Sales can tell us how awful we are. Talk about regression to feudalism.

Arky
January 26, 2023 9:49 pm

Arky says:
January 26, 2023 at 9:43 pm
Rabz says:
January 26, 2023 at 9:40 pm
Suggestions for next Saturday Night’s Radio Show, please Cats.
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Flamers.

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I’ll start:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOBFzb83Pl0

Ed Case
Ed Case
January 26, 2023 9:49 pm

Lyrics with hidden messages.
I’ll start the ball rolling here: 00:43-00:45

Pogria
Pogria
January 26, 2023 9:49 pm

Rabzsays:
January 26, 2023 at 9:40 pm
Suggestions for next Saturday Night’s Radio Show, please Cats.

The fourteenth concept.

Early Australian Settler music. Early Folk songs and such.

Miltonf
Miltonf
January 26, 2023 9:50 pm

Canbra is a disgusting abomination- a parasite poisoning the host.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 26, 2023 9:53 pm

Albo’s Australia day message on his youtube channel has 695 views in 14 hours.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
January 26, 2023 9:55 pm

My bad miltonf, mistook for NSK. Delete SKF & insert NSK.

Make sure it is the Jap manufactured stuff though.

Rabz
January 26, 2023 9:55 pm

On this January 26, various idiots can whinge all they like about being an Ozzie and that it supposedly entails.

I have mixed feelings about the concept, Cats. My ol’ man (with his Italian surname) served with distinction as an Australian Army Field Surgeon in New Guinea from ’43 saving lives, rather than taking them. He was born here, as was his mother. My grandfather was born in Torino. My poor ol’ mum, who I never felt I knew, died when I was 15. She was of convict stock, exported from Liverpool, way back when.

My parents produced three go getters (and an “economist” weirdo) who’ve done them proud. The latter’s kiddies have gone on to achieve even more.

This is meant to be the migrant story writ large.

Yet everything we do is now considered to be illegitimate.

You cannot ever satisfy collectivists.

Stop trying to, Australia.

Miltonf
Miltonf
January 26, 2023 10:00 pm

You cannot ever satisfy collectivists.

Stop trying to, Australia.

Is that the whole purpose of critical theory? It surprises me that this marxist sh*t has been embraced by academics. Maybe they’re not very bright or just evil and vicious.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 26, 2023 10:01 pm

On this AUSTRALIA Day, I propose the toast to the Scottish squatters along the Riverina, in the 1850’s, who made an invaluable contribution to the culture of this great land of ours – they introduced Scotch whisky into Australia.

Sliante, gentlemen, God rest ye merry!

Rabz
January 26, 2023 10:02 pm

albansleazy’s Australia day message on his youtube channel has 695 views in 14 hours

Otherwise known as “connecting with a more refined audience” and/or experiencing the joys of “selective appeal”.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
January 26, 2023 10:02 pm

Went to the Flag Raising in Townsville today. Premier, Gov in attendance. All speeches spent an inordinate amount of time on ATSI/we recognise diyabringyagrogalong tribe. Detracted majorly. Mayor of the city sounded pissed again.

The only speaker that was worth listening to was the TI elder who concentrated on our diverse ancestries but now common identity. I found it refreshing and actually listened intently.

3 RAR boys did us well as the honour guard. Well done boys.

Mrs is certain Penny Wong was lurking in the crowd, others apparently noticed as well. If so interesting that the FM would be in this neck of the woods.

cohenite
January 26, 2023 10:03 pm

This shithole is stuffed until skanks like lidia are jailed.

Louis Litt
January 26, 2023 10:04 pm

Fair taxation – tax constitutionally super funds, state public service super contributions are taxed same way as private funds, tax ipo, get Rid of the FBT exemption for hospital and charitable institutions – their wages exceed businesses (I view this as begging), tax unions, reduce ps super to 10.5% .
During Covid, businesses not having to pay “group tax “ saved them , enable to kick them on and enabled them to contribute to super and pay debt off.

Miltonf
Miltonf
January 26, 2023 10:04 pm

Yet everything we do is now considered to be illegitimate.

yet they still expect food on the table, roof over head, all mod cons- the mark of despicable, spoilt, entitled people.

Maybe also related to what Schumpeter wrote in the 40s about bored wealthy people destroying the economy that sustains them. Mention by someone here recently.

Rabz
January 26, 2023 10:11 pm

until skanks like lidia are jailed

Sod that – I’d rather see the stupid slag go through the shame, shame, shame walk while being gobbed on, pelted with rotten fruit, vegetables and slabs of excrement.

Unlike the Clarkson (that stupid unfunny uglee overrated pommie twat) I will never apologise.

F*ck them.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 26, 2023 10:12 pm

This shithole is stuffed until skanks like lidia are jailed.

Dunno – the longer she sits in the Senate, the more like a wimp Adam Bandt looks…

JC
JC
January 26, 2023 10:14 pm

It’s incredible that one of the most successful decent nations on the planet, with decent and generous people, has to suffer the humiliation of an attempted guilt trip over its national day.

Miltonf
Miltonf
January 26, 2023 10:17 pm

Which proves that you can’t tolerate the intolerant.

Rabz
January 26, 2023 10:17 pm

Yes JC.

That’s collectivism for you.

Stupid joyless vindictive twats.

Miltonf
Miltonf
January 26, 2023 10:19 pm

That’s collectivism for you.

which is a great cloak for BPD, narcissism, exhibitionism etc.

Dot
Dot
January 26, 2023 10:20 pm

After the Revolution went tits up, the official figure – after opening the files – was revised to aprox 90 million.

That wouldn’t surprise me and I would not equivocate or Putin to or rank him worse than Stalin in the gravity of their abuses of power.

My adjective worst meant incompetent.

Russia is very much worse off now. They are strategically much weaker now. The excuses for their failure is a mile long.

“Pro” Russia commenters here won’t even say if the war was worth it now or what happens to Ukraine now. Or a truce is impossible.

I am told that Russia is a great industrial power. So why can’t they build an air force to absolutely dominate the Ukraine? They couldn’t build more cruise missiles? Where are the hundreds if not thousands of tanks from the factory cities? Why can’t the latest tank being used operationally beat a simple missile with a small warhead that has been operationally in use since 1996 and one unit is 1/20th the cost of one of their best tank (T-90M).

They haven’t deployed the T-14 yet. 100 were meant to be produced last year. They MIGHT deliver 40 this year.

The Russian Army was meant to acquire 2,300 of them in 2015 – 2020.

Factory cities designed solely to make tanks my left foot. Operating at 2% of stated output capacity and three years later is utterly insipid. MULTIPLE entire CITIES just for tank & IFV production and after 8 years, they might have 40 new model tanks…within a few weeks or months from now?

Maybe even 800 T-14s would have reinforced early advances and ended the war quickly.

Putin is a very poor military leader.

Even more incompetent than the little corporal. Russians rightfully would want this fool court martialled, flogged then shot.

Miltonf
Miltonf
January 26, 2023 10:21 pm

Which proves that you can’t tolerate the intolerant.

exhibit A – the ABC brough to you by Canbra. Nothing good comes out of canbra.

Rabz
January 26, 2023 10:26 pm

Hey, Pol – from your Kampuchean Jungle fastness – do you still think the Pute is worse than Uncle Joe the Fish?

Louis Litt
January 26, 2023 10:27 pm

Dot 12:19 26/1
Re Putin – nukes at his border ( I can appreciate this),;Zolensky pushing homosexuality, divorce amongst heterosexual sexual couples, killing of Russians in Donbas and Odessa.
The last point, I think is justifiable.
That turd, Merkel, admitted she lied through the Minsk Agreement.
Looking at this how much can you push someone around before they hit back harder.
If I am Putin, and I am being lied to and threAtened by adolescents obsessed with sex drugs and rock n roll , I would have no hesitation in hitting back with “no mercy”.
These “people” are thilfy.

eric hinton
eric hinton
January 26, 2023 10:30 pm

Suggestions for next Saturday Night’s Radio Show, please Cats.

Girls. You promised a Sirens show many moons ago and I’ve had a track sitting on the turntable ready to blow the tablecloth off Ms Cupcake, albeit physiognomically not musically.

I wouldn’t mind a show on the Melbourne music scene of the early 80’s-ish if there are afficionados in the house. Maybe with a bit of Scientists thrown in. I’d never heard of Sacred Cowboys till about a year ago and don’t mind this track.

Rabz
January 26, 2023 10:32 pm

adolescents obsessed with sex and drugs and rock n roll

Sacré bleu! 😕

Rabz
January 26, 2023 10:34 pm

Eric – you want a “Sirens” thread?

Dot
Dot
January 26, 2023 10:37 pm

If I am Putin, and I am being lied to and threAtened by adolescents obsessed with sex drugs and rock n roll , I would have no hesitation in hitting back with “no mercy”.
These “people” are thilfy.

Putin has been destabilising Ukraine since 2008. You want to invade because they don’t have the same views on civil liberties as you? Now if “Ukraine doesn’t exist”, why sign the Minsk agreements anyway?

Just more delusional crap shilling for Russian Imperialism.

Cassie of Sydney
January 26, 2023 10:40 pm

“That wouldn’t surprise me and I would not equivocate or Putin to or rank him worse than Stalin in the gravity of their abuses of power.

But you did state/infer in an earlier comment today that Putin was worse than Stalin.

My adjective worst meant incompetent.”

Really? No, as far as I can see Putin is not nearly as incompetent as Stalin. In 1938 Stalin purged the Red Army of experienced officers and generals, many who’d fought in the civil war, so the result was that there was basically no one left alive with a modicum of military experience and tactics when the Germans invaded in 1941. Stalin thought that he’d bought time with the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact, he refused to countenance the notion that the Germans would break it, despite warnings. In fact on the day the Germans crossed the border in 1941, after finally being told of the invasion because his aides were too shit scared to tell him, Stalin locked himself away for days and this meant the Russians lost critical time to at least try and repel the invaders. Stalin’s impasse, his refusal to deal with the situation meant that tens of thousands of Red Army troops were trapped by the Germans. And what happened to those Russian troops? Almost all were murdered by the Germans, gassed in death camps along with Jews and the few that managed to survive and return home in 1945 were then either shot on Stalin’s orders or sent to gulags.

You’re entitled to your views on Russia and Ukraine, Putin and Zelensky. People here have different views, which is what the forum is for and why it makes for interesting reading and commenting. What I can’t ignore ignore is ludicrous hyperbole such as you this morning declaring that Putin was worse than Stalin.

Rabz
January 26, 2023 10:41 pm

Pol, seriously, give it a rest, Squire.

Think of those luscious jungles just crying out to be part of the “fastness” and/or the “languishing”.

You know you just to be there.

WolfmanOz
January 26, 2023 10:47 pm

Rabz says:
January 26, 2023 at 10:02 pm
albansleazy’s Australia day message on his youtube channel has 695 views in 14 hours
Otherwise known as “connecting with a more refined audience” and/or experiencing the joys of “selective appeal”.

Now up to 722 . . . WOW

Maybe he should contact me . . . my channel has had nearly 16K views in the last 24 hours !

Rabz
January 26, 2023 10:48 pm

We share the same sense of humour

Son: “Those inner city collectivist cockheads really are a bunch of annoying irredeemable imbeciles, I tells ya!”

Father: “Why yes, Son, yes indeed they are – time to consult the Georgian Joe the Fish handbook for dealing with annoying counter revolutionary reactionaries, which will result in all of them being very dead enemies of the state, Mate” 🙂

Arky
January 26, 2023 10:49 pm

Dot says:
January 26, 2023 at 10:37 pm
Just more delusional crap shilling for Russian Imperialism

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Shilling? Maybe more like falling for.
It’s been a disappointing last few years to see the utter garbage people fall for.

JC
JC
January 26, 2023 10:49 pm

Pol?

Cassie of Sydney
January 26, 2023 10:50 pm

“It’s incredible that one of the most successful decent nations on the planet, with decent and generous people, has to suffer the humiliation of an attempted guilt trip over its national day.”

Indeed JC but this is how the left operate. This guilting is working, it’s chipping away at people’s morale and beliefs. As I wrote on BBS’s thread, this morning I went to my local IGA and I said Happy Australia Day in a big loud voice. On hearing my happy and celebratory salutation, the young people said nothing and there were some embarrassed faces and snorts. It’s clear this undermining of Australia Day is impacting and affecting the young. It’s having the desired effect.

Rabz
January 26, 2023 10:52 pm

Pol

Pol Dot, JC.

Languishing in a Kampuchean jungle being his most favourite past time.

As opposed to mine, which is pursuing Sirens.

With predictable results. 😕

Dot
Dot
January 26, 2023 11:01 pm

My point is this: don’t end up like that poor stupid Armchair Warlord sucker.

Russia might overall be right (I disagree) and in the long run has the cannon fodder to win. I expected Ukraine to fall before May last year.

There is no need to explain away every Russian failure, Putin’s terrible military leadership and strategic vision or Ukrainian success.

It’s a feint.
That’s terrorism! Only we are allowed to use concealment.
We’ll nuke stuff in Ukie land.
Nah, we never said that.
No, brOSINT are fools.
HIMARS aren’t effective.
The US really shouldn’t be supplying HIMARS!
Russian tanks are the best in the world, ignore the real world combat losses in Ukraine, Iraq, Egypt and Syria.
Don’t worry about our population losses, Ukraine’s is worse.
Ukraine is of course, part of Russia.
We’re an industrial superpower.
2% of planned production is a nothing burger.

The amount of water carrying for a secret police weasel (a colonel, mind you) from the Cold War and his sheer military & strategic incompetence is staggering.

We’re still at a loss as to what his ultimate plans actually are. The. Kremlin cannot consistently say what their war aims really are.

Robert Sewell
January 26, 2023 11:02 pm

Dot:

Russia is very much worse off now. They are strategically much weaker now. The excuses for their failure is a mile long.

“Pro” Russia commenters here won’t even say if the war was worth it now or what happens to Ukraine now. Or a truce is impossible.

The issue is the same in far too many nations. Corruption. It isn’t just the provision of megayachts and private jets to the corruptables, it’s the disruption and selection of entire industries that keep on mounting up that deliver the second rate products that attend the corruption.
Corruption is like a reverse tax that takes value from each stage of production and replaces it with rubbish.
If you can eliminate the corruption and mates rates you end up with a production base that is able to make decisions on a price/quality basis.
The West was built on this concept to a greater degree, but is now so corrupt that Market pricing signal is failing.
(Maybe someone can put it much better, but I can’t.)

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 26, 2023 11:04 pm

GreyRangasays:

January 26, 2023 at 7:19 pm

Thancho what did you expect going to see the most wooden actress of our time. She plays each character exactly the same in every movie I’ve seen her in. Never again.

I expected bugger all.
I got less.
But they could have got it done in 80 minutes instead of 160.

MatrixTransform
January 26, 2023 11:06 pm

This is meant to be the migrant story writ large

this is a Cultural Revolution and my guess is that it will go the same way all the others did too.

three generations is all it takes to forget the reasons people abandoned their old country and started again with all the risks and uncertainty involved in that.

my business partner’s 65yo and on one side of the family, his grandparents were Spanish.
his parents grew up in Western Victoria

and my missus’ mate over from Bristol is 1/2 Chinese and half Danish.
she was born in Australia, her mother was full Chinese but was also born in Aust, and obviously her grand-parents were all Chinese … but they lived in Cairns

I have a Huguenot surname but there are many Irish names among the forebears as well as the odd German.
my lot got here somehow but nobody actually knows how
it’s lost in time … or hidden

…or maybe it was better to forget

Arky
January 26, 2023 11:07 pm

If you can eliminate the corruption

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Everything, always, everywhere is corrupt.
Systems have to be built robust enough to operate in spite of corruption.

eric hinton
eric hinton
January 26, 2023 11:07 pm

Yes

Robert Sewell
January 26, 2023 11:10 pm

Cassie of Sydney:

Indeed JC but this is how the left operate. This guilting is working, it’s chipping away at people’s morale and beliefs. As I wrote on BBS’s thread, this morning I went to my local IGA and I said Happy Australia Day in a big loud voice. On hearing my happy and celebratory salutation, the young people said nothing and there were some embarrassed faces and snorts. It’s clear this undermining of Australia Day is impacting and affecting the young. It’s having the desired effect.

Casssie, they will have the opportunity to live the rest of their lives in the shithole they are creating. We can’t stop this travesty, we’ll be dead long before they wake up to their errors, but wake up they will.
“Revolt in haste, regret in leisure”

Robert Sewell
January 26, 2023 11:16 pm

Indolent:
Gateway Pundit still has the story up.
Here.

Rabz
January 26, 2023 11:18 pm

water carrying for a secret police weasel

You do this why, Squire?

Robert Sewell
January 26, 2023 11:22 pm

North Carolina Police Shoot Unarmed, Disabled White Man Who Had His Hands Up
The Daily Mail reported Sunday that a North Carolina SWAT team stormed toward Kloepfer’s trailer in Cherokee County ostensibly in response to gunfire in the area on December 12 around 11 pm. They suspected he was the shooter and had a hostage.
Kloepfer opened the door with his wife behind him and both raised their hands. Seconds later, the cops shot Kloepfer several times.

All the decent cops left the forces, and left the lunatic trigger happy ones making decisions. Which was precisely what the Democrats wanted. Another group of people to terrorise the citizens.

Dot
Dot
January 26, 2023 11:26 pm

Of course Cassie is right about Stalin almost losing the war to Hitler.

However, if we are making that comparison, Hitler had arguably the best army ever trained and some 3.8 million soldiers at his disposal with the best weapons, armoured vehicles, artillery and attack aircraft available.

Putin attacked a much smaller country with a smaller population and was rolled on day 3.

Stalin ended the war and his life with a much stronger military. Putin has sabotaged his own efforts to lift their birth rate (mostly through emigration) and lost so much equipment they cannot fight conventionally against any power greater than Ukraine. His failure to increase military production last year and since 2014 has been staggeringly short sighted.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
January 26, 2023 11:30 pm

the odd German.
Is there any other kind?

Arky
January 26, 2023 11:31 pm

Stalin was basically the devil.
Putin is just a cockhead.

Dot
Dot
January 26, 2023 11:34 pm

The Russians will have a net population gain, for heaven’s sake.

The gain is 38 – 46 million people (if the emigres come back) who now strongly distrust their new President or hate him viscerally.

How on earth is that a strategic advantage?

Oh come on
Oh come on
January 26, 2023 11:38 pm

It is a historical fact that Russian armour has always been second rate, hence why Arab armies were routinely routed by America and Israel.

That sounds like a case of poor workmen blaming their tools. Or, to be more precise, attributing military failure to poor tools and not considering the role of poor workmen.

I’m not saying the modern Western tank is better or worse than the modern Russian tank. I don’t know. No one does. And hopefully we never get to find out.

Rabz
January 26, 2023 11:41 pm

Stalin* was basically the devil

One of the grate 23 (?) “fish” of human history.

e.g. Atilla the Fish
Adolf the Fish
Joe* the Fish

Not to be confused of course, with Country Joe and the Fish. 😕

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
January 26, 2023 11:45 pm

Although Daily Mail removed Veritas story their Daily Mail US handle still showed the Veritas clip.

Some journalists in mainstream media must be getting angry by the cover ups. MSM are actually showing their contempt for their readers who also happen to be their neighbours.

Oh come on
Oh come on
January 26, 2023 11:51 pm

So why can’t they build an air force to absolutely dominate the Ukraine?

Wrong question. The right question asks what losses they would be willing to endure in order to achieve the objective.

Arky
January 26, 2023 11:59 pm

We have a duty to counter all these shit progressive ideas infecting the West.
Otherwise Putin, Xi and some of those psychopaths in the mid east will win.
Our stupid, ridiculous internal wrangling over the climate fiction in particular will decide the fate of billions for decades to come.

MatrixTransform
January 27, 2023 12:00 am

Is there any other kind?

same on the missus’ side of the family

rickw
rickw
January 27, 2023 12:08 am

It is a historical fact that Russian armour has always been second rate, hence why Arab armies were routinely routed by America and Israel.

Any Israeli military man would temper their apparent supremacy with “yeah but we’ve only ever fought Arabs”

JC
JC
January 27, 2023 12:09 am

Dover

How do you know the Russian death toll?

Oh come on
Oh come on
January 27, 2023 12:15 am

Putting social in front of a word reverses its meaning

Hehe very droll.

Presumably social justice has been raised. Social worker. Social studies/science.* Social engineering. Social security.

What about social butterfly?

*half pay that one. Much of social science is totally not science at all. However, fields like psephology and polling are inherently data heavy and science-y. Good social science is scientific in nature. Pity there isn’t much good social science kicking about these days.

rickw
rickw
January 27, 2023 12:17 am

Are you really telling me the M4 was better than the T-34? Really?

The T-34 and Sherman are both good. But for different reasons. The Sherman is a conceptually poor tank built superbly. (High profile, narrow tracked, poorly sloped armour). The T-34 is a conceptually great tank built badly. (Low slung, wide tracks, well sloped armour, forward turret).

The T-34 initially looked like a dog but the Russians persisted and eventually ironed out most of the problems.

Arky
January 27, 2023 12:19 am

When the invasion of Taiwan begins, what will the propaganda campaign look like?
The Taiwanese are corrupt!
None of our business!
Not worth a possible nuclear showdown!
Was always a part of China!
We need trade with China! They are the main market for our goods!
Will some on “our” side lap up the Chinese propaganda like they have the Putinist crap?
I think so.
Will American conservatives do the same when it’s our turn under the gun?

Oh come on
Oh come on
January 27, 2023 12:21 am

How do you know the Russian death toll

Hasn’t the BBC provided a fairly authoritative number based upon observed funerals and whatnot?

I know one thing – take the number the MoD puts out, multiply it by 0.01 then divide that number by half…and it’s still way too high.

rickw
rickw
January 27, 2023 12:22 am

“It’s incredible that one of the most successful decent nations on the planet, with decent and generous people, has to suffer the humiliation of an attempted guilt trip over its national day.”

Here! Here!

But that’s Marxist filth for you.

Oh come on
Oh come on
January 27, 2023 12:24 am

Of course, Arky is immune to propaganda.

Arky
January 27, 2023 12:24 am

And if you think the Russians wouldn’t have put the same time and energy into seducing the Western left had Republicans been in office at this time…
Right now their arguments are tailored to a disgruntled centre right.
It’s not genuine. They don’t give a shit about YOUR values. They’re using it.

JC
JC
January 27, 2023 12:26 am

Why do you consider the kill ratio important when we’re seen it’s meaningless in WW2 with Germany vs the Soviet Union refuting that number as being predictive?

rickw
rickw
January 27, 2023 12:28 am

Languishing in a Kampuchean jungle being his most favourite past time.

It’s not all bad here!

Oh come on
Oh come on
January 27, 2023 12:29 am

Why do you assume my belief that Ukraine is none of our business must emanate from Russian influence peddlers?

Arky, you’re sounding like Adam Schmitt circa 2017.

Arky
January 27, 2023 12:31 am

Oh come on says:
January 27, 2023 at 12:24 am
Of course, Arky is immune to propaganda

..
Well, I’m not quoting Gonzo Lira every half hour at least.

Arky
January 27, 2023 12:32 am

Oh come on says:
January 27, 2023 at 12:29 am
Why do you assume my belief

..
I don’t recall mentioning you at all.

JC
JC
January 27, 2023 12:35 am

Interesting where this is heading. It’s not about the money, it’s about recognition of course!

Homeowners are urged to pay Indigenous Australians ‘weekly rent’ for ‘living on their land’ in new push on the eve of Australia Day led by Clementine Ford and high-profile Greens senator Lidia Thorpe

Oh come on
Oh come on
January 27, 2023 12:36 am

Well, I’m not quoting Gonzo Lira every half hour at least.

Who is? I think Lira is a blowhard and a charlatan. It seems you know more about his current opinions than I do.

I don’t recall mentioning you at all.

You can do better than that, Arks.

Oh come on
Oh come on
January 27, 2023 12:37 am

Homeowners are urged to pay Indigenous Australians ‘weekly rent’ for ‘living on their land’ in new push on the eve of Australia Day led by Clementine Ford and high-profile Greens senator Lidia Thorpe

This is a very important perspective that needs to be considered by every Australian.

Arky
January 27, 2023 12:41 am

It’s war OCO.
We’ll find out casualties ten years after it’s finished, if ever.
Your current best guess is going by documented equipment losses.
Both sides have carefully constructed and implemented deception plans.
They’ll lying about everything, all the time.

rosie
rosie
January 27, 2023 12:52 am

Since Calli asked.
I decided to do two cultural activities, the first to try cannoli, I got two minis, one ricotta, one pistachio, very rich, and I preferred the ricotta.
The other was a visit to the Duomo, I opted for the tour senza roof because I do not care for heights.
Was a bit overwhelming, starting in the bishop’s palace which was indeed a palace, mostly decorated in new classical style. The bishops were drawn from the nobility and were obviously very wealthy, the one I think did the most recent redecoration was an ancestor of Lampedusa.
Then it was off to see the treasure, the crypts, the crown of Constance of Aragon and finally the royal tombs.
The cathedral interior is also neoclassical, but you can see glimpses of the old cathedral in the crypts.
The complex of course had a long history, the earlier iteration of the cathedral was at one time a mosque.
Open carriage and tuk tuk tours are on somewhat aggressive offer, and there is abundance of beggars, including women with young children at the entrance to the cathedral.
Now I am going to have a nice cup of tea and read my book.

rosie
rosie
January 27, 2023 1:20 am
rosie
rosie
January 27, 2023 1:40 am

I think we should now have the suckling pig wars.
Various google sources tell me is the name ie a noun, given to an unweaned child or pig and is derived from middle English ie the term has been around a long time and unlikely to be the consequence of prudishness.

Arky
January 27, 2023 4:03 am

Arky says:
January 27, 2023 at 12:31 am
Oh come on says:
January 27, 2023 at 12:24 am
Of course, Arky is immune to propaganda
..
Well, I’m not quoting Gonzo Lira every half hour at least

..
I’m sure most are acting in good faith, problem is faith in our governments is deservedly at an all time low post covid.
Moscow would be stupid if they didn’t take advantage of that.
I just don’t get the urge to put more weight in Putin than in our own useless and deceptive lot. They’re all awful.

Tom
Tom
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Top Ender
Top Ender
January 27, 2023 5:01 am

Jacinta Price’s mum gets gong:

‘Hard, hard’ reality of life for camp kids in Alice Springs

Assistant principal at the independent Yipirinya School in Alice Springs, Bess Nungarrayi Price, with students Kalisha Charles, left, and Martina Rubuntja. Picture: Liam Mendes

In her life after politics, Bess Nungarrayi Price works with camp kids who have become central to the national debate over chaos in Alice Springs.

She is candid about their lives. The Walpiri grandmother says the camps where children live on the outskirts of town have become “dumps” despite 40 years of government funding. She believes that what many of the children contend with at home would astound most Australians.

“These students, they come from a hard, hard lifestyle situation. Some of them barely have a good night’s sleep and (there is) everything else that happens within those town camps,” she said.

She says alcohol – and the business of obtaining it – consumes the camps’ big drinkers. They will obtain it by legal or illegal means.

“People drink every day and they’re drunk by six o’clock in the morning,” she said.

“There’s fights, there’s fist fights that break out. There’s ­people who are drinking every day who are so noisy, belligerent.

“There’s all this sly grog being sold.”

Ms Price, a former minister in the Northern Territory government and now assistant principal at the independent Yipirinya School in Alice Springs, does not believe an Indigenous voice can fix any of this.

She wants the Aboriginal people of Alice Springs to take their rightful place and begin to sort out lawlessness that she says has been three or four years in the making.

“What I would really like to see is the traditional owners – the traditional owners who’s first language is Arrernte – speak up and take control of this town of Alice Springs,” she said.

“I want to see them stand up and take control. In Aboriginal culture, they have the authority.”

Ms Price spoke to The Australian as she prepared to receive an Australia Day honour for her service to the NT parliament and Indigenous people.

She was a schoolteacher in her home community of Yuendumu – 300km northwest of Alice Springs – when she met her husband, Dave, a non-Indigenous man, in 1979. The couple moved to Alice Springs in 1983.

Ms Price was the inaugural chair of the Indigenous Affairs Advisory Council for the NT government before she was elected to the NT’s legislative assembly in 2012. She was a minister in the NT government in 2014 when her sister Rosalie was murdered in Katherine. Breaking with Walpiri tradition, she asked media to use Rosa­lie’s name so she would be remembered as a person not a statistic.

She was a vocal advocate for community safety initiatives as a politician and since. “It was always my belief that I was elected by the constituents in my electorate and I was there as their member to fight for them to be able to deliver what was needed out in the communities,” she said.

Asked about the crisis engulfing Alice Springs, Ms Price described wretched and itinerant alcoholics in and around the town who devote their time to circumventing the NT’s bottleshop rules. Until last July, this included a requirement that anyone purchasing takeaway alcohol must have proof of an address. Drinkers would “go looking for someone who has an address, so they can hound that family member to buy them alcohol”.

Now the only requirement is photo identification to prove the purchaser is not on the NT government’s banned drinkers list, so banned drinkers look for an unbanned relative or friend who can buy for them.

“They think ‘OK, it’s going be two o’clock (the opening time for bottleshops before temporary restrictions announced on Tuesday delayed opening times until 3pm) so we need to get enough money, find someone with a car … and it’s just like open slather.

“They’re in there with their 30 packs, Jim Beam, Bundaberg rum, and it’s sad.”

In recent years Ms Price worked on a night patrol in Alice Springs: she and other Aboriginal people spoke to children roaming the town between 6pm and 2am and took them home before dayshift workers returned for frank discussions with the children’s parents or carers. She was dis­appointed when the program was discontinued.

“We could see the difference we made because the patrol was by Aboriginal people who spoke maybe six different languages, who could communicate to these kids in their own language, and help them understand that they should not be out,” Ms Price said.

“The parents and carers and grandmothers – and whoever was in charge of these kids – they were surprised when we knocked on their door and said ‘Do you know that this kid has been out until twelve o’clock or two o’clock?’

“They usually would’ve been told ‘I’m going to stay with my cousin and I’ll see you tomorrow’. Little did they know they were hanging out in the streets of Alice Springs until the wee hours.”

Ms Price does not trust that an Indigenous voice to parliament would reinstate the night patrol or result in effective policy in Alice Springs. Despite a commitment from the Albanese government’s referendum working group that the voice would be representative of communities across Australia, she believes it would ultimately be another Canberra body.

“I don’t trust these people to get it right,” she said.

Ms Price said her daughter, Country Liberal Party senator Jacinta Price, was an example of a voice that truly represented her community.

“She’s a voice. And we have 11 Aboriginal members of parliament down in Canberra who are the voice who’ve been elected,” she said.

“Why can’t we just work with the 11 that we have now? Build them, and build the trust around them, and allow them to work with their constituents, work with their Aboriginal people out in their states, and become the representatives who will then be a voice for their electorates.

“In the Northern Territory, we have our local councils, we have committees, women’s committees, childcare committees, education committees. They’re all voices for us.

“This voice is just going to be another body that’s just going to sit and do nothing in Canberra.”

At Yipirinya School, Ms Price feels protective of the most vulnerable students in her care.

“I want to make sure that none of this, none of the abuse, happens to these children. I want to make sure that we give them a safe environment at the school, where they can come and know that they have the love and the kindness that’s not there for them at home,” she said.

“The students that we deal with, they go through a lot and if I can just give them a hug and tell them ‘I love you, have a nice day’ and see them off to their town camps every afternoon after school and give them a smile on their faces, I will be happy.

“And for them to give me a hug when they see me next time, just tells me that I’ve done something small.”

Oz

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 27, 2023 5:10 am

So Turkey is going to get US hardware in return for not blocking the Scandi’s entry into NATO.
And then it’s open season on the Kurds.
The Kurds are the Poles of the middle east.
They really shouldn’t believe anything a western power tells them.

Gabor
Gabor
January 27, 2023 5:21 am

does not believe an Indigenous voice can fix any of this.

Even the most ardent, bigoted supporters of this referendum know, it will change nothing.

Same as the apology didn’t do any good, Rudd is a fool but not that big a fool, it was all for show.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 27, 2023 5:35 am

And here we are again at the end of an olde threade?

Tom is up, broight and arley. Thank you, Tarm.

Here it is 6pm and we have to decide for dinner where to dine?
I don’t want another Fish Pie experience.

Today we drove to Holy Island (Lindisfarne) and in the sudden and bright afternoon rays saw the castle ruins on Lindisfarne on a nearby cliff mound there, lit up through an archway of the old ruined priory. This redolant old ruin in weathered soft red stone was built on the site of the church founded by St. Aiden, who was sent on Royal request from St. Columba’s Iona to bring Christianity to the benighted Saxons (like Cornwell’s Uhtred) who had taken over Bebbanburgh, or Bamburgh Castle as it is also known, the fortress of control for the area.

There is also a more modern, i.e. thirteenth century, church next to the priory ruins, which we entered to escape the North Sea wind which chills to the bone. I put my hood up against this sudden weather change, coming quickly to realise why monks wore cowls, for the unprotected head (with only a beanie on it such as Hairy wore), soon became icy at the neck level, with unprotected ears likely, or so it seemed, to chip off with any sudden movement. Inside we read the stories of St. Aiden and then in the next century of St. Cuthbert, whose remains were carried around the local area by faithful monks during turbulent times, eventually, and permanently, landing in Durham Cathedral, who won’t send them back. The heroic story of St. Cuthbert’s prozeletizing zeal is what drew ITV and BBC doyen Alistair Moffat to seek some culturally ancestral solace for his secular soul feeling the fleetingness of things. He was only seventy, ffs, I recall now, and even in summer Lindisfarne tested his mettle. He thought St. Cuthbert might over the aeons offer a few hints and life recipes for him, but not surprisingly, lacking a religious context, he ended up rather disappointed. I wrote a review of his book on his Lindisfarne quest in Quadrant a couple of years ago. However, I still bow to Moffat’s desire to comprehend the place, for I was doing the same thing myself today.

Alone in our thoughts, with no-one else around, Hairy and I ate our packed sandwich lunch in the shelter of the church porch, sitting on the penitants’ stone bench, me with a stern eye on the tide times of the causway to the mainland, which floods at high tide, and he with his usual unconcern for trivial matters such as these. My horror was that if we left it till late, and The Brute (Audi A5) stalled in the middle of the causeway, and somehow I couldn’t get out of it (for The Brute has form in capturing its prey), then we would drown in the tide without me having yet found the meaning of life.

Well, that’s Lindisfarne for you. Brings on emotions of all sorts.

Bamburgh Castle, which we then visited, at least was on the mainland. Like everything on Holy Island this too was closed for the winter, but we could wander round the base of the ramparts watching circling ravens and I could imagine I was like Uhtred’s seventh century warrior-nun friend Hild (although I’m not really much of a nun), casing the joint in readiness for a steep assault to reclaim it. As we looked into the interior of the closed castle portcullis from the heights at the top entrance, the desolate long beach far below broke the rolling North Sea surf, and for a moment a deity of sorts filtered sunlight over the crenulated dunes, turning them sage against the suddenly white-crested waves on the shoreline. A moment of glorious promise, then gone again into grey dullness. A winter epiphany perhaps.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 27, 2023 5:48 am

Sorry, Cornwall places his Uhtred in the ninth century not the seventh as I mispoke above, a recalcitrant who rejected the Christianity of his Saxon family, having been captured and raised as a heathen by the Danes who stormed into Northumbria from the end of the eighth century on. They chopped up the monks of Lindisfarne on a June day in 793, sending the settled Christian world of Britain into a state of justified panic, grabbing their Cuthbert relic and perigrinating for some years with it.

Cornwall’s ‘The Last Kingdom’ a great historical but imaginative story of what life may have been like in those times.

2dogs
2dogs
January 27, 2023 6:26 am

Well, that’s Lindisfarne for you. Brings on emotions of all sorts.

Lindisfarne happened because Charlemagne took out the last remaining Friesians, who until then had been keeping the Vikings in check. Unintended consequences.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 27, 2023 6:57 am

Thanks 2dogs, I will check up on the Friesians as a buffer. Charlemagne’s killing of any recalcitrant Odin supporters, especially in Saxony, I suspect was also something of a prod to the heathen Danes to indulge in a little bit of retalliation on a favoured Christian site such as Lindisfarne. There was also the appeal of rich and undefended pickings, always an encouragement to the Viking spirit.

Indolent
Indolent
January 27, 2023 7:04 am
Indolent
Indolent
January 27, 2023 7:12 am

America’s Turnbull (or should I say turncoat?).

Mitch McConnell: Joe Biden’s Recent Aid to Ukraine Is ‘Overdue’

Indolent
Indolent
January 27, 2023 7:20 am

Looks like there’s still a bit of life left in the First Amendment.

Breaking: Federal Judge Blocks California Law Punishing Doctors for ‘COVID Misinformation’

Robert Sewell
January 27, 2023 7:22 am

Feelthebern:

So Turkey is going to get US hardware in return for not blocking the Scandi’s entry into NATO.
And then it’s open season on the Kurds.
The Kurds are the Poles of the middle east.
They really shouldn’t believe anything a western power tells them.

The Kurds are well known for stirring up crap among everyone they share space with. From creeping into UN zones and firing on both sides from the middle to get them trying to kill each other, to terrorism that can be blamed on someone else, they’ve been the fly in the ointment of every attempt to get peace in the ME.
Oh, forget it. Plucky Kurds. Set upon by every one they meet. Innocent as the day is long. Wonderful people. Never a bother with them living next door.
The Kurds, FTB, are masters of political manipulation and they have the MSM on their side. Even if they had their own fenced in homeland (which would be a bloody good idea, except they don’t want one because that would stop them stirring up trouble with their neighbours) they’d still be trouble. If there were two Kurds left alive in the world, they’d still fight over something.
Here’s the problem. The Middle East is a shithole and every time we stick our hands in their problems, we end up with shitty hands. How about we leave the stupid bastards alone and let them kill each other?

shatterzzz
January 27, 2023 7:23 am

Oh! .. the irony! .. according to the media 10s 0f 1 000s of folk took part in marches protesting Australia Day … they, apparently, took the day off to protest having a day off! .. ya couldn’t make this up! .. LOL!

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 27, 2023 7:25 am

Saladin was a Kurd.

Just sayin’.

will
will
January 27, 2023 7:26 am

Dilbert

Getting followers is the hard way. Buying them, Like Kevin Rudd (at how many million followers?) is far easier

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 27, 2023 7:29 am

Bess Price, as quoted in TE’s link above, is of course spot on.

Sly grogging and the eternal humbug of extended kin with an actual address, combined with the timetabling of their days around when the bottle shops are open are the cornerstones of these people’s existence.

The Thorpe and Burneys and Dodsons of this world would perhaps like it very much if troublesome people like Price (and her daughter) weren’t around any more to spoil their narrative.

Don’t believe for a single moment they haven’t thought about it.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 27, 2023 7:33 am

10 degrees 20 minutes ago in God’s country. It’s still shorts and singlet weather though. Try this on in Mongyang at 10 degrees and they’d find your frozen corpse in the street.

One of the enduring wonders of caaaaarntry existence. Back to the smoke later this morning though.

shatterzzz
January 27, 2023 7:35 am

Swan Lager .. 1988 .. Australia ad ..
https://youtu.be/fbvgBi0bafE

Indolent
Indolent
January 27, 2023 7:37 am

Force and mandates are all they know.

kitten corner: where’s the beef?

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 27, 2023 7:46 am

Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
January 26, 2023 at 10:12 pm
This shithole is stuffed until skanks like lidia are jailed.

Dunno – the longer she sits in the Senate, the more like a wimp Adam Bandt looks…

How much more of a wimp can he possibly look?

Zipster
Zipster
January 27, 2023 7:52 am

Canada will be sending four of its Leopard 2 main battle tanks to Ukraine, Defence Minister Anita Anand announced on Jan. 26. “These tanks will allow Ukraine to liberate even more of its territory and defend its people from Russia’s brutal invasion,” Anand said in a press conference. She defended the low number of tanks being sent, indicating the decision has been made in short order and that the contribution is based on a collective action.

brutal is the new talking point

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 27, 2023 7:59 am

The Kurds, FTB, are masters of political manipulation and they have the MSM on their side.

The Kurds played ball with the US during the invasion & occupation of Iraq.
The Kurds played ball with the US during it’s operations in Syria.
Now the Kurds are going to be screwed over by the US via Turkey.

How is that political manipulation?

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 27, 2023 8:01 am

Not that war pig Bill Kristol cares, but Taibbi is asking him & associates for answers publicly because they won’t comment on a story he is flagging will be dropped tomorrow.

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 27, 2023 8:06 am

Robert S

Casssie, they will have the opportunity to live the rest of their lives in the shithole they are creating. We can’t stop this travesty, we’ll be dead long before they wake up to their errors, but wake up they will.
“Revolt in haste, regret in leisure”

Ensure that, when cleaning out your possessions, they find some good books on the subject? At least leave them a basis to learn the error of their ways.

Robert Sewell
January 27, 2023 8:14 am

From Powerline:
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2023/01/how-dumb-can-a-politician-get.php

This gave Minneapolis’s City Council a great idea: a tax on vacancy! That will force whoever owns the buildings to put businesses in them whether they like it or not, and regardless of whether they make money. Brilliant.

A city Council is the only form of life with fifty bellies and no brain.

Cassie of Sydney
January 27, 2023 8:17 am

“war pig Bill Kristol”

Generous Bern, a cockroach has more moral and intellectual fibre than Kristol.

Dot
Dot
January 27, 2023 8:21 am

Homeowners are urged to pay Indigenous Australians ‘weekly rent’ for ‘living on their land’ in new push on the eve of Australia Day led by Clementine Ford and high-profile Greens senator Lidia Thorpe

Is Clammy Forward an Aboriginal or is she incredibly brain damaged?

Johnny Rotten
January 27, 2023 8:24 am

One day while walking down the street a highly successful Human Resources Director was tragically hit by a bus and she died. Her soul arrived up in heaven where she was met at the Pearly Gates by St. Peter himself.

“Welcome to Heaven” said St. Peter. “Before you get settled in though, it seems we have a problem. You see, strangely enough, we’ve never once had a Human Resources Director make it this far and we’re not really sure what to do with you”.

“No problem, just let me in” said the woman. “Well, I’d like to” replied St. Peter “but I have higher orders. What we’re going to do is let you have a day in Hell and a day in Heaven and then you can choose whichever one you want to spend an eternity in”.

“Actually, I think I’ve made up my mind, I prefer to stay in Heaven” said the woman. “Sorry, we have rules..”.

And with that St. Peter put the executive in an elevator and it went down-down-down to hell. The doors opened and she found herself stepping out onto the putting green of a beautiful golf course. In the distance was a country club and standing in front of her were all her friends – fellow executives that she had worked with and they were all dressed in evening gowns and cheering for her. They ran up and kissed her on both cheeks and they talked about old times. They played an excellent round of golf and at night went to the country club where she enjoyed an excellent steak and lobster dinner. She met the Devil who was actually a really nice guy and she had a great time telling jokes and dancing. She was having such a good time that before she knew it, it was time to leave. Everybody shook her hand and waved good-bye as she got on the elevator.

The elevator went up-up-up and opened back up at the Pearly Gates and she found St. Peter waiting for her.

“Now it’s time to spend a day in heaven” he said. So she spent the next 24 hours lounging around on clouds and playing the harp and singing.

She had a great time and before she knew it her 24 hours were up and St. Peter came and got her. “So, you’ve spent a day in hell and you’ve spent a day in heaven. Now you must choose your eternity” he said. The woman paused for a second and then replied “Well, I never thought I’d say this, I mean, Heaven has been really great and all, but I think I had a better time in Hell”. So St. Peter escorted her to the elevator and again she went down-down-down back to Hell.

When the doors of the elevator opened she found herself standing in a desolate wasteland covered in garbage and filth. She saw her friends were dressed in rags and were picking up the garbage and putting it in sacks.

The Devil came up to her and put his arm around her.

“I don’t understand” stammered the woman “yesterday I was here and there was a golf course and a country club and we ate lobster and we danced and had a great time. Now all there is, is a wasteland of garbage and all my friends look miserable”.

The Devil looked at her and smiled. “Yesterday we were recruiting you, but today you’re staff…”

Johnny Rotten
January 27, 2023 8:25 am

Happiness is not something ready made. It comes from your own actions.

– Dalai Lama

alwaysright
alwaysright
January 27, 2023 8:29 am

Salute the flag, that brought you (temporarily) education, roads, sanitation, water, communications, gas, electricity and transport (air land and sea) OR forgo the above.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 27, 2023 8:43 am

BBS, the one I read first is “Beating France to Botany Bay: The Race to Found Australia”, by Margaret Cameron-Ash, which summarises the way in which Cook hid his findings, then going on to detail the story of how the French got wind of something up and raced La Perouse to our eastern shores. Then Quadrant published a prequel, which I have not read yet but which Hairy says is also excellent – this has more of the detail about Cook and his various voyages, including the one mapping Australia’s eastern coastline where he fudged some vital info – it’s called, rather wonderfully, “Lying for the Admiralty”.

Both are around $50 from Quadrant Books, details from Quadrant Magazine. These well-bound volumes are both beautifully produced on good paper in hard cover with illustrations and an illustrated dust cover. They make a very fine addition to anyone’s library of books to treasure.
I gave them to Hairy as a Birthday and then a Christmas present. He was very pleased with them. We didn’t bring “Lying for the Admiralty” with us for me to read on this trip (though I’m keen) in order to preserve its pristine feel, for books in suitcases can get very messed up at times.

Top Ender
Top Ender
January 27, 2023 8:46 am

Some Scots still have a rebel in them:

Transgender double rapist Isla Bryson leaves women’s prison after 48 hours and is put behind bars in an all-male unit after Nicola Sturgeon was forced into screeching U-turn

Daily Mail

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 27, 2023 8:49 am

How much more of a wimp can he [Bandt] possibly look?

Bandt is the reasonable face of the Greens they need at election time. Thorpe, Rhiannon et al wouldn’t be there otherwise.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 27, 2023 8:58 am

Sorry, the message for BBS should be on the Flag Thread. I will move it over now.

Dot
Dot
January 27, 2023 8:59 am

Welp

https://paytherent.net.au/

Saying Sorry Isn’t Enough
Pay The Rent

Sounds like a demand.

Eyrie
Eyrie
January 27, 2023 9:00 am

The Kurds are well known for stirring up crap among everyone they share space with. From creeping into UN zones and firing on both sides from the middle to get them trying to kill each other, to terrorism that can be blamed on someone else, they’ve been the fly in the ointment of every attempt to get peace in the ME.
Oh, forget it. Plucky Kurds. Set upon by every one they meet. Innocent as the day is long. Wonderful people. Never a bother with them living next door.
The Kurds, FTB, are masters of political manipulation and they have the MSM on their side. Even if they had their own fenced in homeland (which would be a bloody good idea, except they don’t want one because that would stop them stirring up trouble with their neighbours) they’d still be trouble. If there were two Kurds left alive in the world, they’d still fight over something.

Somewhere on the web you’ll find Lt Col. Tom Kratman’s opinion of the Kurds “Another bunch of Arabs but with much better PR”. Kratman was an infantryman in GW1 an later became an officer. He’s a hardarse.
Also writes military SF. Read “Watch on the Rhine”. Lefties had conniptions about that one and reckon it shouldn’t have been published (The Waffen SS is re created to repel an alien invasion of Earth – but read on, things aren’t what they seem at first).

Roger
Roger
January 27, 2023 9:02 am

The Thorpe and Burneys and Dodsons of this world would perhaps like it very much if troublesome people like Price (and her daughter) weren’t around any more to spoil their narrative.

Seems Thorpe can be a bit of a spoiler herself.

She signed up to a parliamentary investigation into aboriginal corporations initiated by Jacinta Price, only to be chastened by the Greens party room into withdrawing her support.

Eyrie
Eyrie
January 27, 2023 9:04 am

Canada will be sending four of its Leopard 2 main battle tanks to Ukraine, Defence Minister Anita Anand announced on Jan. 26. “These tanks will allow Ukraine to liberate even more of its territory and defend its people from Russia’s brutal invasion,”

The Commander of the tank unit from which they will come ” Thank God, we’ll finally be rid of those dogs which are in the workshop all the time.”

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 27, 2023 9:04 am

Saying Sorry Isn’t Enough
Pay The Rent

Sounds like a demand.

Or a protection racket.

Wrack off, I say.

calli
calli
January 27, 2023 9:05 am

Homeowners are urged to pay Indigenous Australians ‘weekly rent’ for ‘living on their land’ in new push on the eve of Australia Day led by Clementine Ford and high-profile Greens senator Lidia Thorpe

Suuuuuure. After an adjustment is made for paying their rent, food, education, health care, utilities and other expenses via my tax contributions over fifty one years.

Then I’ll pay. Based on unimproved value circa 1788.

calli
calli
January 27, 2023 9:07 am

I’ve always had a very kindly attitude towards the indigenous. It’s beginning to fade.

Bar Beach Swimmer
January 27, 2023 9:09 am

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bearesays:
January 27, 2023 at 8:43 am

have ordered both.

2dogs
2dogs
January 27, 2023 9:10 am

I suspect was also something of a prod to the heathen Danes

No, the Danes would have been greatly relieved to see Charlemagne take out their centuries-old enemy. It gave them a lot of freedom to pursue other goals. They were able to settle Hedeby, in old Angelyn, which as Bede mentioned had been vacant after the Angles had left.

Jorge
Jorge
January 27, 2023 9:10 am

Bandt is the reasonable face of the Greens they need at election time.

Soon the Greens will have a right wing and a left wing. Then we can look forward to the day Bandt is denounced as a right wing extremist. Then the show trial.

Miltonf
Miltonf
January 27, 2023 9:11 am

Calli cultural Marxism is all about division. They’re trying to start a race war.

Dot
Dot
January 27, 2023 9:13 am

Russian losses

https://www.minusrus.com/en

Personnel
~496.440 +3120
killed ~123.860
wounded ~371.580
prisoner of war ~1.000

Plus 900,000+ emigres (more likely ~1,000,000)

Tanks
3175 +14

calli
calli
January 27, 2023 9:13 am

Looks that way milt. I have quite a few indigenous friends, all faithful and devout Christians.

Not playing.

Miltonf
Miltonf
January 27, 2023 9:13 am

Iirc that foreign citizenship imbroglio a few years back was started due to internal green feuding. Horrible people.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 27, 2023 9:16 am

“Beating France to Botany Bay: The Race to Found Australia”, by Margaret Cameron-Ash

It’s a shame that the Dutch didn’t colonize Tasmania in the 17thC, rather than the Cape Colony.
We’d be in vastly better shape as a nation, and the Boers would too.

Roger
Roger
January 27, 2023 9:16 am

Calli cultural Marxism is all about division.

Various putatively oppressed groups take over the role of the proletariat as the vanguard of the revolution.

Miltonf
Miltonf
January 27, 2023 9:23 am

Marxism – neo or cultural or whatever is social and economic poison. One of the most evil men to have lived.

Miltonf
Miltonf
January 27, 2023 9:24 am

Very good article in a 1984 Quadrant by Alan Barcan iirc about Marxism and unis.

lotocoti
lotocoti
January 27, 2023 9:26 am
Roger
Roger
January 27, 2023 9:28 am

One of the most evil men to have lived.

Marx was a Satanist as a youth.

Marxists generally belittle this fact..as they would.

Dot
Dot
January 27, 2023 9:31 am

He was a theistic satanist?

Cassie of Sydney
January 27, 2023 9:32 am

A morning rant.

Yesterday in Melbourne, Greens senator Thorpe brandished a stick around and screamed, screeched, slandered and shouted inflammatory smears and lies such as “this is war’”, “They are still killing us. They are still killing our babies. What do we have to celebrate in our country?”. It’s all online, she and the rally are hard to miss, Thorpe is an adept attention seeker and media whore. You can see the visceral hate dripping from her lips. She really believes her rhetoric. She is brimming with hate, it makes her somewhat attractive face very, very ugly.

Such unhinged rhetoric by Thorpe and her far-left ilk isn’t just inflammatory, it’s toxic and dangerous so I wonder how long it will it be before someone is inspired by this inflammatory language to go out and commit terrorist violence against non-indigenous Australians? It’s a serious question. I suspect it won’t be long. I believe we’ve crossed a Rubicon in this country, thanks to divisive progressive politics. However I have to ask “where is Albo the word Slusher condemning Thorpe’s unhinged and dangerous rhetoric”? Where are the Liberals demanding the Slusher distance himself from Thorpe and her party? After all, Labor is in an unofficial alliance with the Greens, that’s how Labor is getting its legislation through the senate (along with the dimwitted moronic ex-Rugby player from Canberra who is actually a Green pretending to be an independent). After all, Slusher and his cronies in Labor always seize every opportunity to associate the Liberals and Nationals with the “far-right” and “Nazis”. I remember how, after the January 6 riot, Slusher and his party had no problem trying to associate Morrison with Trump and the rioters. To digress briefly, I actually rang the Liberal Party that day and told them to send around a picture of Albanese cosying up to a Jew hater by the name of Jeremy Corbyn. Of course they did not heed my advice, because the Liberals are so utterly craven and useless at fighting any culture wars. But here’s the truth, Thorpe’s language is far more inciteful and is far more dangerous than any language emanating from a group of moronic far-right lunatics camping in the Grampians. I wonder how the MSM would report a rally in Melbourne’s CBD where thousands of far-right and neo-Nazis screamed, shouted and screeched “this is war”? I bet Slusher and his comrades in Labor wouldn’t hesitate trying to associate Dutton and co with them. I mean, we have governments across this country who’ve rushed to ban the Swastika, who see Nazis everywhere, who now smear right-wing Australians as “Nazis”, yet the language used by Thorpe is as serious and as toxic as any Nazi camping in the Grampians quoting from Mein Kampf. Or is it because we now live in a two-tiered society where some extremism and some extremist language is okay? Oh how silly of me, to quote an effwit who likes to vomit up here occasionally, I suppose Thorpe and her ilk have “legitimate grievances”.

Anyway, a small request to any Liberal or National politician or advisor reading this blog (and I suspect there is one or two), I ask the Liberals and Nationals to put up a motion in the Senate to censure Thorpe for her lies and her toxic language. After all, many of those same Liberals and Nationals had no problem, almost three years ago now, rushing to join in a motion to censure a woman for far less divisive and toxic language. C’mon Liberals and Nationals, show some spine, show some courage. Or am I asking too much from the Liberals and Nationals? Don’t worry, I already know the answer to that question.

flyingduk
flyingduk
January 27, 2023 9:34 am

Russian losses

Personnel
~496.440 +3120
killed ~123.860
wounded ~371.580
prisoner of war ~1.000

Plus 900,000+ emigres (more likely ~1,000,000)

Tanks
3175 +14

In war, ‘overclaiming’ of kills is the norm, typically by a factor of 5-10x. Given the increasing use of instantaneous reporting via social media as a weapon (ie the need to keep the home population onside), I suspect this number is increasing rather than decreasing. At that rate, 123k Russian KIA collapses nicely into the 12k number.

Bill From the Bush
Bill From the Bush
January 27, 2023 9:40 am

Dr Duk,
when you buy your trailer bearings make sure you buy them from a bearing supplier like skf, Timken etc.
Many of the places selling trailer supplies will have cheap chink bearings with reputable brands on them.
I helped build a small crusher for another gold prospector. He got quotes on the bearings from chink sellers. Two of them asked what he wanted the brand on them to be!

Misalignment is a common cause of bearing heating.
Timken have a howto for trailer bearings on their website. The other big names will as well.
We use heat guns on all our trailers and floats. A variation of up to 10 degrees is of no concern as that is what we have found over the years. Point the heat gun at the hub as that is what we want to measure, not the tyre, although an incorrectly inflated tyre will transmit some heat to the hub.
All of our heat gun readings at scheduled driver breaks are recorded as it gives an accurate diagnosis rather than “it feels hotter than the others”.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
January 27, 2023 9:41 am

I believe another Project Veritas Pfizer drop due later today.

Senator Ron Johnson already calling for an investigation.

Wonder if TGA and the pro jab experts have noticed it yet.

If we had any actual journalists in MSM they would be phoning the experts they have on speed dial to ask for comment on that and UK dropping boosters for under 50’s.

flyingduk
flyingduk
January 27, 2023 9:42 am

Exhibit A, propaganda in war and overclaiming

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HMS Invincible burning after an Exocet hit (says Argentina) in the Falklands
… the keen eyed would immediately note the discrepancy between the wake and the smoke trajectory.

The original photo, before ‘homogenising’ (to lift a phrase from our BOM friends)

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Dot
Dot
January 27, 2023 9:45 am

I don’t doubt that happens duk but you need to explain why Oryx/OSINT is wrong in the losses of Russian vehicles.

If they’re right regarding vehicles, then Ukraine isn’t over claiming by much.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 27, 2023 9:46 am

Looks like Dilbert man has been visited by our own special-Ed Mong as well.

https://12ft.io/proxy?ref=&q=https://dilbert.com/strip/2022-12-25

flyingduk
flyingduk
January 27, 2023 9:47 am

Bill From the Bushsays:
January 27, 2023 at 9:40 am

Thanks, off to the bearing shop shortly. I have an IR heat measuring gun (used to come in handy when I was rallying), but my initial sensor was my hand : could easily keep it on the cool side, but not on the hot hub – ie cool side was under 40C, hot side well over 50.

flyingduk
flyingduk
January 27, 2023 9:52 am

If they’re right regarding vehicles, then Ukraine isn’t over claiming by much.

If they are right regarding vehicles, the Russian tankers are now all dismounted infantry…

Dot
Dot
January 27, 2023 9:56 am

Damn it man that’s just sophistry. Look at and prove the evidence is flawed or not.

Johnny Rotten
January 27, 2023 9:56 am

dover0beachsays:
January 27, 2023 at 9:33 am
Russian losses

https://www.minusrus.com/en

Sounds like they’re recycling UKR Defence Ministry numbers.

If RUS initial deployment was sub-200K and they mobilised 350K from late Sept through to Nov, and they’ve suffered 500K losses, who is actually manning the line of contact and sitting in reserve in the north, east, and south?

Once that Pincer movement from the north and the south starts in the Northern Hemisphere Spring, then the UKR will suddenly realise that fake numbers are fake numbers. And the UKR doesn’t have the real numbers. The Clown’s number will be up and he will be on his way to a warmer place with tax free corrupt money. Vale UKR. You were never a country anyway.

Roger
Roger
January 27, 2023 9:59 am

He was a theistic satanist?

At the risk of imposing an anachronism on him, he fits the bill:

The Fiddler saws the strings,
His light brown hair he tosses and flings.
He carries a sabre at his side,
He wears a pleated habit wide.

“Fiddler, why that frantic sound?
Why do you gaze so wildly round?
Why leaps your blood, like the surging sea?
What drives your bow so desperately?”

“Why do I fiddle? Or the wild waves roar?
That they might pound the rocky shore,
That eye be blinded, that bosom swell,
That Soul’s cry carry down to Hell.”

“Fiddler, with scorn you rend your heart.
A radiant God lent you your art,
To dazzle with waves of melody,
To soar to the star-dance in the sky.”

“How so! I plunge, plunge wihout fail
My blood-black sabre into your soul.
That art God neither wants nor wists,
It leaps to the brain from Hell’s black mists.

“Till heart’s bewitched, till senses reel:
With Satan I have struck my deal.
He chalks the signs, beats time for me,
I play the death march fast and free.

“I must play dark, I must play light,
Till bowstrings break my heart outright.”

The Fiddler saws the strings,
His light brown hair he tosses and flings.
He carries a sabre at his side,
He wears a pleated habit wide.

Worlds I would destroy for ever, Since I can create no world…

I don’t suppose there were anything but theistic Satanists at the time.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 27, 2023 10:01 am
Bill From the Bush
Bill From the Bush
January 27, 2023 10:01 am

My initial guess is that the bearings were cheap knockoffs and thus the tolerances are fairly loose. No matter what you do with them they will not be consistent.
Many trailers (like a lot of other things) are now built to a price first and a standard second.
Somewhere I have a chart of bearing failure pictures with root causes. I must see where I have stashed it.

Dot
Dot
January 27, 2023 10:05 am

Once that Pincer movement from the north and the south starts in the Northern Hemisphere Spring, then the UKR will suddenly realise that fake numbers are fake numbers. And the UKR doesn’t have the real numbers. The Clown’s number will be up and he will be on his way to a warmer place with tax free corrupt money.

How many Russian boasts and promises have turned sour?

You need to show the OSINT figures are wrong. Why are they wrong?

Vale UKR. You were never a country anyway.

Why are you swallowing and repeating this Russian propaganda?

It is ahistorical and a lie. It is neo Imperialist (in 2023!). It tacitly supports ethnic violence. It appeals to anti semitic, ahistorical fantasy.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
January 27, 2023 10:05 am

Cassie of Sydneysays:
January 27, 2023 at 9:32 am

Sent an email a while back when Thorpe shot her mouth off another time about the string of unbecoming behaviour like being a bikies moll, old Parl House fire along with her distasteful comments on Holly Hughes. It basically said the same, she should be censured by the Senate or a motion bought even if it had no chance of passing.

Never did receive a reply and they never did move against Thorpe. I unfortunately wasn’t surprised though.

Top Ender
Top Ender
January 27, 2023 10:06 am

Quite close:

An asteroid the size of a delivery truck will skim past Earth later this morning in one of the closest encounters the planet has ever recorded.

It’s expected the asteroid will pass 3,500 kilometres above South America, which is about the distance between Perth and Sydney.

NASA has ruled out the asteroid hitting Earth.

Bar Beach Swimmer
January 27, 2023 10:06 am

MT:
three generations is all it takes to forget the reasons people abandoned their old country and started again with all the risks and uncertainty involved in that.

And why it is that Who Do You Think You Are? is such a great show. Whomever is on, each week the guest is overwhelmed by what one (or more) of their ancestors did and had to overcome. The story may go back generations, so that the genetic connection is extremely diluted, but that does not matter to the guest. Genuine sadness, remorse, elation and thankfulness are all displayed. One of the best ways – like learning a bit of your country’s history – to chasten the individual.

Dot
Dot
January 27, 2023 10:07 am

Sent an email a while back when Thorpe shot her mouth off another time about the string of unbecoming behaviour like being a bikies moll, old Parl House fire along with her distasteful comments on Holly Hughes. It basically said the same, she should be censured by the Senate or a motion bought even if it had no chance of passing.

Pay the rent? But I already pay protection money to a bikie with a gang moll!

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
January 27, 2023 10:11 am
Johnny Rotten
January 27, 2023 10:12 am

dover0beachsays:
January 27, 2023 at 9:58 am
Tanks
3175 +14

They’re saying also that they’ve destroyed over 96% of their tanks. OK.

Tell em’ that they are dreaming…………………….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dik_wnOE4dk

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 27, 2023 10:13 am

The Pfizer chap.
Bwahahahaha.
“I’m not feeling safe right now”.

Tom
Tom
January 27, 2023 10:18 am

LOL. On the way to Project Veritas’s latest brilliant work exposing Pfizer’s brazen decision to turn Kung Flu vaccines into an endless cash cow, I came across the global left’s disinformation classic on Project Veritas. The opening par at Wikipedia:

Project Veritas is an American far-right[14] activist group founded by James O’Keefe in 2010.[18] The group produces deceptively edited videos[13] of its undercover operations,[5] which use secret recordings[5] in an effort to discredit mainstream media organizations and progressive groups.[19][20] Project Veritas also uses entrapment[12] to generate bad publicity for its targets,[2] and has propagated disinformation[22] and conspiracy theories[30] in its videos and operations.

The key to understanding the left’s hubris and brain-dead mongolism: leftards think anyone who has a life and isn’t an activist consumed by politics 24/7 like they are is stupid.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
January 27, 2023 10:19 am

Ukraine got its tanks. Now it wants jet fighters too

Discussions are underway about supplying Kyiv with modern aircraft, despite Western fears of escalation.

Give Ukraine an Inch and they will take a Mile

Outrage after Novak Djokovic’s dad posed with fans wearing Putin’s ‘Z’ symbol and said ‘long live the Russians’ – as Ukraine calls for him to be BANNED from the Australian Open

. Ukraine ambassador has called for Srdjan Djokovic to be banned
. He joined flag-waving pro-Putin Russian fans at the Australia Open
. The tournament favourite’s father has been warned about his conduct

From the Comments

– Ukraine “Demands” more money and zelensky to win the Oscars, a nobel prize and the world cup!

– Who cares.

Ukraine demands….really…surprised Ukraine hasn’t demanded the prize money be sent to Zalensky

Robert Sewell
January 27, 2023 10:20 am

Eyrie:
I think this is the column about the Kurds you were thinking of?

Interestingly, before we even arrived in our area, there had been an incident – a firefight resulting in several Iraqi dead – between the British Marines and some Iraqi troops guarding one of Hussein’s palaces in that part of Iraq. I asked a British officer about it and his answer was to the effect that, “As near as we can figure, as one of our patrols was passing, two Kurds, from different positions but surely with coordination, took a shot each, close to simultaneously. One shot was at our patrol, the other at the Iraqi on the gate to the palace. Both shots missed, but the Iraqis and our men, thinking they were under attack, reacted as one would expect. We were just a lot better shots, better led, than they were. Poor bastards. One of the reasons we’re quite sure that the Iraqis didn’t shoot first was that, as our men passed, they waved at each other, as soldiers will who have no particular reasons for enmity.”

MatrixTransform
January 27, 2023 10:23 am

An asteroid the size of a delivery truck will skim past Earth later this morning

C/2022 E3 may possibly be visible to the naked eye for us in Aust in the night sky around the 7,8,9, 10th of Feb.

around 10pm, look up near Mars in the NNW
elevation about 20°

you can find it in Stellarium

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
January 27, 2023 10:24 am

Italian mother wears shocking T-shirt showing her 18-year-old daughter’s dismembered body as she attends court appeal for failed asylum seeker convicted of killing her and chopping her up

. Alessandra Verni wore a printed T-shirt to court of her daughter’s mutilated body
. Pamela Mastropietro’s killer is appealing against his sexual assault conviction

The Italian mother of a murdered 18-year-old has attended court wearing a printed T-shirt of her daughter’s dismembered body, after her killer appealed against part of his conviction.

Pamela Mastropietro was murdered and dismembered in January 2018 by Nigerian drug dealer Innocent Oseghale. He has appealed against part of the sentence where he was originally found to have sexually assaulted the teenager before killing her.

Mastropietro’s mother, Alessandra Verni, attended the appeal court in Perugia yesterday wearing a T-shirt that showed the horrific images of her daughter’s body.

At one point a clash broke out in the court room with Verni and Oseghale being dragged away from each other by police. The court hearing will resume next month.

Have you seen what they did to her?,’ Verni said of her murdered daughter.

‘That man, who raped and tortured her, should rot in jail.’

Her T-shirt showed her daughter’s dismembered head. The series of harrowing pictures were also formed so that the detached body parts made up the structure of a body.

Oseghale, 32, was found guilty and sentenced to jail in 2019 for murdering 18-year-old Mastropietro, and is appealing against part of his conviction for rape.

Oseghale arrived in Italy in 2014 as an asylum-seeker, but had dropped out of his refugee program in 2017, a year before he murdered Mastropietro.

lotocoti
lotocoti
January 27, 2023 10:26 am

Russian losses.

As of January 23, we were able to confirm information about 12,225 dead soldiers and officers. Most of the dead over the past three months are mobilized, volunteers and prisoners.
We rely only on confirmed death reports, so the data collected does not reflect the real level of casualties. We assume that our list may contain at least 40-60% fewer names of the dead than actually buried in Russia.
We came to this conclusion by studying the situation in cemeteries in more than 60 Russian settlements.

The BBC’s Russian Service is only allowed to publish Kremlin approved stories, right Dot?

Anchor What
Anchor What
January 27, 2023 10:29 am

Nudge, nudge, wink, wink!

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