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Daedalus and Icarus, Charles Le Brun, 1645


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Roger
Roger
February 9, 2023 11:10 am

We’re probably 5 years behind Germany…

60% of Germans now back the expansion of coal mining to ease electricity costs.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
February 9, 2023 11:16 am

For those on Twitter MilkBarTV has a good compilation of Karl Stephanovic clips as he progresses towards what he said yesterday.

Allison Langdon who got stuck into Craig Kelly about misinformation does not come out looking so good. Kelly was quoting one of the top immunologists Robert Clancy when he was trying to respond to Langdon.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 9, 2023 11:17 am

Bar Beach Swimmer says:
February 9, 2023 at 11:08 am

Last night, Bolt had on SFL NSW Senator Andrew Bragg, who’s put out a booklet on why we can all support da Voice.

There was a magic moment when Bolt listed the numbers and purview of the Aboriginal organisations currently active throughout the country.

Does anyone have That List?

I sent an email to a number of Liberals using words suggested from this Blog

“Five reasons the voice is wrong”.

1. Dividing people by race is wrong.
2. Dividing people by race is divisive.
3. Dividing people by race causes nepotism and corruption.
4. Dividing people by race is racist.
5. Dividing people by race sets up a nation for infighting.

Plus

Why you should vote No to the Voice
Subsidised apartheid is no solution

Maurice Newman

https://www.spectator.com.au/2023/02/why-you-should-vote-no-to-the-voice/

‘No’ means no: the sensible case against the Voice
Mark Powell

Author: Mark Powell | The Spectator Australia

https://www.spectator.com.au/2023/02/no-means-no-the-sensible-case-against-the-voice/
Does This Sound Like Reconciliation to You?

Peter O’Brien
https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/aborigines/2023/02/does-this-sound-like-reconciliation-to-you/

‘No’ means no: the sensible case against the Voice | The Spectator Austr…
Anthony Albanese’s first act as Prime Minister was to replace two of the three Australian flags in the Parliamen…

‘We don’t need a voice, we need ears’
Ms Price also took aim at the proposed Indigenous Voice to Parliament on the ABC’s 7.30 last night.

“We don’t need a voice, we need ears,” she said.

“The situation in Alice Springs has demonstrated the fact that no matter who is trying to talk to the government … they’re not in fact listening.”

Ms Price is a Senator for the Northern Territory’s Country Liberal Party (CLP), but aligns with the Nationals in federal parliament.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-02-07/nt-alice-alcohol-bans-jacinta-price/101936758

And Added

If you want to see Bureaucracy gone Mad in Australia – Wander through the Following AFR Article to see how many Government Depts on The Australian Taxpayer Teat – Just count the Number of Organisations listed below

https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/indigenous-charity-head-s-trail-of-sackings-probes-and-misused-cash-20230203-p5cho0

Finishing up with

If you read the AFR Article above on Corruption

The First Question that needs to be asked is
How do you define a Person as Aboriginal

– 1/2, 1/4,1/8,1/20,1/40,1/80th etc????

shatterzzz
February 9, 2023 11:18 am

Picked up an electric hedge trimmer whilst op-shopping, yesterday, $15 .. 1st test poi-fecto ! ..
https://postimg.cc/ZvktRV5H
https://postimg.cc/F1cXq5TB

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 9, 2023 11:18 am

Bar Beach Swimmer says:
February 9, 2023 at 11:08 am

Last night, Bolt had on SFL NSW Senator Andrew Bragg, who’s put out a booklet on why we can all support da Voice.

There was a magic moment when Bolt listed the numbers and purview of the Aboriginal organisations currently active throughout the country.

Does anyone have That List?

I sent an email to a number of Liberals using words suggested from this Blog

“Five reasons the voice is wrong”.

1. Dividing people by race is wrong.
2. Dividing people by race is divisive.
3. Dividing people by race causes nepotism and corruption.
4. Dividing people by race is racist.
5. Dividing people by race sets up a nation for infighting.

Plus

Why you should vote No to the Voice
Subsidised apartheid is no solution

Maurice Newman

https://www.spectator.com.au/2023/02/why-you-should-vote-no-to-the-voice/

‘No’ means no: the sensible case against the Voice
Mark Powell

Author: Mark Powell | The Spectator Australia

https://www.spectator.com.au/2023/02/no-means-no-the-sensible-case-against-the-voice/
Does This Sound Like Reconciliation to You?

Peter O’Brien
https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/aborigines/2023/02/does-this-sound-like-reconciliation-to-you/

‘No’ means no: the sensible case against the Voice | The Spectator Austr…
Anthony Albanese’s first act as Prime Minister was to replace two of the three Australian flags in the Parliamen…

‘We don’t need a voice, we need ears’
Ms Price also took aim at the proposed Indigenous Voice to Parliament on the ABC’s 7.30 last night.

“We don’t need a voice, we need ears,” she said.

“The situation in Alice Springs has demonstrated the fact that no matter who is trying to talk to the government … they’re not in fact listening.”

Ms Price is a Senator for the Northern Territory’s Country Liberal Party (CLP), but aligns with the Nationals in federal parliament.

And Added

If you want to see Bureaucracy gone Mad in Australia – Wander through the Following AFR Article to see how many Government Depts on The Australian Taxpayer Teat – Just count the Number of Organisations listed below

https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/indigenous-charity-head-s-trail-of-sackings-probes-and-misused-cash-20230203-p5cho0

Finishing up with

If you read the AFR Article above on Corruption

The First Question that needs to be asked is
How do you define a Person as Aboriginal

– 1/2, 1/4,1/8,1/20,1/40,1/80th etc????

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
February 9, 2023 11:20 am

Feraldton back to the top of shit towns of Australia surely!

WA men to face court after $500,000 methylamphetamine bust south of Geraldton

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
February 9, 2023 11:20 am

Bill Gates Says It’s OK For Him To Use Private Jets — He’s “The Solution” To Enviro Change

. The God Delusion writ large

Bar Beach Swimmer
February 9, 2023 11:21 am

In da Voice falling apart news:
I see that Luigi has caved into having the Commonwealth produce a “Yes/No” case in booklet form for every household to receive prior to the referendum.

Yet, as of this morning, he still won’t commit to funding both sides’ advertising campaigns.

To say that this referendum is so important for the country’s self-worth yet not do everything in his power to bring it about is a bit disingenuous. i.e. it’s not worth his time or the taxpayers’ dime to present all the information to the people to ensure it gets over the line. /sarc

Robert Sewell
February 9, 2023 11:22 am

Old Ozzie:

Australia will be Totally Stuffed Under Labor/Greens/Liberals – Why owuld anyone invest in Australia?

All you can do is prepare… and move out of the cities, because when this lot goes tits up, no one will escape them. Their electric vehicles either won’t have the range or the charge to get beyond the urbanised areas.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 9, 2023 11:25 am

Poll: Donald Trump Double Digits Ahead of Potential GOP Challengers

The survey showed Trump leading his closest potential challenger, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R), by 18 percent, garnering 49 percent support compared to the governor’s 31 percent.

No other potential challenger comes close, as former Vice President Mike Pence falls to third place with just seven percent support. Former U.S. ambassador to the U.N. Nikki Haley, who is reportedly slated to announce a presidential bid this month, comes in fourth place with three percent support, followed by former Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY) with two percent and Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) with two percent. Texas Gov. Greg Abbott, South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem, former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, and Sen. Tim Scott (R-SC) saw one percent support, and Virginia Gov. Glenn Youngkin garnered zero percent support:

Political Polls
@Politics_Polls

2024 National Republican Primary:

Trump 49%
DeSantis 31%
Pence 7%
Haley 3%
Cheney 2%
Cruz 2%
Abbott 1%
Noem 1%
Pompeo 1%
T. Scott 1%
Youngkin 0%

@MorningConsult, 3,549 RV, 2/3-5

shatterzzz
February 9, 2023 11:26 am

Yet, as of this morning, he still won’t commit to funding both sides’ advertising campaigns.

He’s only going thru thre motions now that the demon-rats in USA have set the benchmark for elections all our western democracies will have studied the how, why & wherefore needed to get the desired result(s) …
Fair & balanced elections like vote-herd health concerns by gummint are sooooo 2019-ish ……!

Top Ender
Top Ender
February 9, 2023 11:27 am

Interesting article interviewing a 14 year old girl in school, immersed in a world of sexuality and woke screaming if you don’t conform.

No wonder they have problems learning. The West is a shadow of its former self.

lotocoti
lotocoti
February 9, 2023 11:28 am

Plibeserk is going to kybosh all new coal mines at a time when coal is bringing in enormous amounts of cash.

Don’t worry.
Those green economy Bulk Virtuicity Carriers will more than make up for any revenue shortfalls.

feelthebern
feelthebern
February 9, 2023 11:30 am

Climate change and the rich | DW Documentary

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7yAk5iYm_k

The first 90 seconds of this video.
Absolute gold.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 9, 2023 11:32 am

Anchor Whatsays:
February 9, 2023 at 10:56 am
The Watergate Affair was not as reported, and neither Nixon or the “journalist” who became famous for his expose deserved their fates.

Not my point, the whole hoo haa focused on the cover-up, that is what made the headlines.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 9, 2023 11:37 am

Top Ender says:
February 9, 2023 at 11:27 am

Interesting article interviewing a 14 year old girl in school, immersed in a world of sexuality and woke screaming if you don’t conform.

No wonder they have problems learning. The West is a shadow of its former self.

Top Ender,

problem exists here in OZ

13 year old, Very Cynical Granddaughter, says 25% of the Girls in her school class, identify as Lesbian or Trans -thinks they are all “nuts”

Cassie of Sydney
February 9, 2023 11:37 am

Further to Craig Kelly, this man has been completely vindicated. Yet will we see an apology from Scumbag Morrison and his fellow spineless Liberals? It’s worth mentioning that Kelly was a very good and popular member for the electorate of Hughes, he’d turned the electorate of Hughes into a safe Liberal seat. Kelly had been the target of the left long before Covid. For years they’d been trying to silence him because of his views on climate et al. Yes, Kelly was a maverick who spoke his mind but the Liberal Party had a long, long history of tolerating backbench mavericks. But that was all tossed out of the window by Scumbag the Appeaser, he decided to side with Labor and the Greens against his own. The getting of Kelly, using Plibershit (who called him a “nong”), was an orchestrated hitjob by Labor, the Greens and the MSM. Just remember, that was almost two years ago to the day, a week or two before the Higgins fabrications emerged and a month before Porter. It was an avalanche of hit jobs from the left, and the stench was obvious. Clearly Labor and the left had a plan, with MSM connivance, to bring down the Liberals and so they started picking off people. It was all so obvious, yet Scumbag the Appeaser willingly went along with it.

Bear Necessities
Bear Necessities
February 9, 2023 11:39 am

Scientists Take Australian Bureau
of Meteorology to Court Over
Disputed Temperature Records

For years, Australian biologist Jennifer Marohasy has questioned the
reliability of the Bureau of Meteorology’s (BoM) historical weather records,
which have shown a significant rise in temperatures over the past few
decades.
By Nina Nguyen
February 7, 2023 Updated: February 8, 2023 ?? ? Print

The BoM has attributed record-breaking temperatures to manmade global
warming, but Marohasy is sceptical saying some recent warming could be
attributed to natural weather patterns.

In response, her husband, environmental researcher John Abbott, took the
matter to the Administrative Appeals Tribunal in Brisbane with Marohasy
appearing as an expert witness. They called for the BoM to make raw
temperature data public, something the weather bureau has refused
previously.

A public hearing was held on Feb. 3, but the case was taken back to
mediation before Marohasy presented her evidence. Further, the public was
asked to leave. The case was set to resume on Tuesday

file:///C:/Users/andic/Downloads/Scientists%20Take%20Australian%20Bureau%20of%20Meteorology%20to%20Court%20Over%20Disputed%20Temperat.pdf

The ABS makes Raw, Seasonal and Trend data available on its website for all its data collection series. It shouldn’t be controversial to obtain data collected using taxpayer dollars. Either the data is not complete (i.e. significant gaps, erroneous collection etc) or obvious manipulation has occurred or both. It smells quite a bit.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
February 9, 2023 11:40 am

Bragg was stumped. But having had reality poke him in the eye, is going to be man enough to acknowledge that there’s nothing in the proposal that commits to the end, or even curtailment, of the current Aboriginal middle and upper-management sinecures already out there?

The Calma-Langton report is explicit that the Voice will not displace, or replace any of the existing Aboriginal interest organisations at a State or Commonwealth level.

It’s the one Ring to bind them.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 9, 2023 11:42 am

Why you should vote No to the Voice
Subsidised apartheid is no solution

Black comedy that the Left, who screeched about apartheid for decades, now want to introduce apartheid.

Dot
Dot
February 9, 2023 11:44 am

MT BERGHAUS IS BEING HEARD AGAIN IN THE WARDENS COURT NEXT FRIDAY!!!

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 9, 2023 11:45 am

feelthebern says:
February 9, 2023 at 11:30 am

Climate change and the rich | DW Documentary

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7yAk5iYm_k

The first 90 seconds of this video.
Absolute gold.

Q. You don’t care about climate change?

A. I don’t think about it much

Q. If everyone behaved as you, and flew as often as you do

A. Then it would not Work, but Luckily The Population is splits into diiferent groups, and I am part of the small fraction that can get away with it

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 9, 2023 11:47 am

60% of Germans now back the expansion of coal mining to ease electricity costs.

Nothing like the threat of freezing to death to focus the mind. In Australia it will likely be sweat and arse cracks.

Bear Necessities
Bear Necessities
February 9, 2023 11:49 am

Nothing like the threat of freezing to death to focus the mind. In Australia it will likely be sweat and arse cracks.

Nothing more uncomfortable than sweat hovering near your crack before deciding to quickly fall into it. You know there is another one coming too!

feelthebern
feelthebern
February 9, 2023 11:50 am

Finally, the NY Post reports on the Hersh story.
Now watch the corporate media hot takes.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
February 9, 2023 11:50 am

The Calma-Langton report is explicit that the Voice will not displace, or replace any of the existing Aboriginal interest organisations at a State or Commonwealth level.

A document search also reveals that the word “funding” is mentioned 3 times in the whole document.

Must be that “details” Immaculata dentata is on about.

Imagine the sheer balls to propose a national body, operating at all 3 levels of government, fully staffed and resourced and leaving out any source of funding from the “detailed proposal”.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 9, 2023 11:52 am

It smells quite a bit.

Bear N – BoM start their official temperature series in 1910, which is right at the bottom of the ~60 year cycle. They have plenty of temperature data going back into the 1880’s, which was the last peak, but they choose not to include it. If you look at the graph linked you’ll see the story would be quite different if they started in 1890 rather than 1910.

By contrast they start their rainfall series in 1900. Which is a tell that they have good data 1900-1910…which they’re leaving out for reasons.

Note how during the last drought and the Gippsland fires they avoided mentioning the Federation Drought and the Gippsland fires of 1897-1903. Which were at the back end of the then 60 year cycle peak.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 9, 2023 11:53 am

Finally, the NY Post reports on the Hersh story.
Now watch the corporate media hot takes.

A coincidence it drops the day after the SOTU?

Bazinga
Bazinga
February 9, 2023 11:54 am

@BoN counter the woke by calling them reality deniers

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 9, 2023 11:54 am

EDITORIAL

Biden’s State of the Union set new records for dishonesty and emptiness

By Post Editorial Board

State of the Union speeches are usually pretty scattershot, but President Biden’s 2023 version set a new record.

He ranged across a world of issues without substantively addressing the biggest ones — crime, the border crisis, China, the nation’s looming economic woes — because his record is so weak on all of them.

Instead, he offered lie after lie in a shameless bid to fool the electorate ahead of his 2024 run for re-election. His only “big idea” is to make bogeymen out of the wealthy and offer the American people more freebies, more unsustainable spending.

He blended brags about his supposed achievements (inflation-fueling blowout spending sprees), promos for various dead-on-arrival bits of legislation (even heavily Democratic Congresses have been unable to pass “comprehensive immigration reform”), blatantly insincere calls for bipartisanship, cynical and false attacks on his opponents (the chamber was in an uproar at his fake claim that Republicans want to slash Social Security and Medicare), bogus stats (billionaires pay roughly 24% income tax, not 8%), some fine tough talk on the Ukraine war and utter laughers (“as we made clear last week, if China threatens our sovereignty, we will act to protect our country. And we did” — by shooting down the balloon at the last possible moment?).

It had the now-usual shout-outs to guests in the audience and the standard rah-rah patriotism (“We are not powerless before the forces that confront us. It is within our power, of We the People.”).

But he had literally no overall theme, as he has no overall vision beyond his self-serving distortions and promises of more giveaways. In his best chance to reach the entire nation, our president basically showed America that there’s no there there except his trademark malarkey.

His flagging polls show the American people aren’t fooled. Just like Biden, they see that his act is getting stale.

From the Comments

– For millions of Americans, issues have become completely irrelevant. More than 60 years of a corrupt, union-controlled education system has convinced them the highest “value” to which they can aspire is conformity of thought, and the implicit understanding that failure to do so will get the cancelled.

And if you don’t really understand how bereft of substance so many of these Americans are, note that a new Fortune poll revealed a whopping 35% of millennials rely on their parents to pay their bills.

– The last time I felt as nauseous as I did watching Biden’s speech last night was in Mexico years ago in the midst of a severe case of food poisoning!

– pumped up with Adderall

Speed Suppositories for sure. Talked so fast it was disturbing. No pauses. Like it was all one word jammed together. And notice how it started wearing off.

All I know is he was must have gotten into Hunter’s stash. That man was clearly on something.

feelthebern
feelthebern
February 9, 2023 11:55 am

A coincidence it drops the day after the SOTU?

You’d have to ask Hersh.

flyingduk
flyingduk
February 9, 2023 11:56 am

The First Question that needs to be asked is How do you define a Person as Aboriginal

– 1/2, 1/4,1/8,1/20,1/40,1/80th etc????

Simples – you take the % full blood, and multiply any ‘benefit’ by that number. You also take the % white, and subtract said % from any benefit. By that metric, the break even point is 50% aboriginal blood, less than that and you start ‘owing’ reparations.

Given modern genetic analysis, this would be easy and should eliminate the majority of the white aboriginals who are making so much fuss.

Hugh
February 9, 2023 11:57 am

Been raining here this morning, and a large hare has been taking refuge under the dense foliage of the weeping elm in the front yard. There is a break in the weather now and he has come out of his shelter to enjoy some nice green grass in the house paddock. He had better not get any ideas about the vegetable garden though. Or else.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
February 9, 2023 11:57 am

ABC Melbourne radio spent an hour with bike riders whining about safety and poor design in Melbourne streets leading to accidents.
On country roads the the split second decision is whether you hit the deep pothole or take your chances swerving in front of oncoming traffic.
It’s clearly dangerous but there’s no votes or money for the TaliDan regime in saving the lives of country drivers. Lower speed limits, speed cameras and the mobile goon squad are the preferred options.
Poor infrastructure is our fault and we must be controlled and punished until every cross-dresser in Melbourne feels empowered and safe.

feelthebern
feelthebern
February 9, 2023 12:02 pm

Tucker does not hold back.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 9, 2023 12:02 pm

I see from one of OldOzzie’s links that the The Uluru Statement from the Heart is abbreviated as TUSH.

Perhaps the Urban Dictionary should have been consulted on the way:

Tush: rear-end, butt, behind.

Maybe it could be changed to The Outback Statement from the Heart, or TOSH?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 9, 2023 12:04 pm

‘Name Me One!’: Biden Tries to Get Tough with Xi Jinping in SOTU Speech, Ends Up Confusing Americans

If you play the 33 sec Video immediately under the heading – Is that Jacinda Ardern Ex NZ Sheep Herder doing the Signing – The Teeth look familiar!

Top Ender
Top Ender
February 9, 2023 12:06 pm

We can do better Hugh.

We live in a cul-de-sac next to a large forest reserve. It has kangaroos by the score. The council has gates to stop trail bikes etc getting into the reserve, but the kangas jump them.

At present there are two on the road at the end of the cul-de-sac, looking rather vacant.

No grass on the road. Very small heads – kangas have little brain.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 9, 2023 12:07 pm

On country roads the the split second decision is whether you hit the deep pothole or take your chances swerving in front of oncoming traffic.

Swerving in front of a homicidal robot in a Hummer is not a good idea.

Arnold Schwarzenegger ‘involved in car accident in LA after cyclist swerved into his lane’ (6 Feb)

The incident is said to have taken place on Sunday morning (February 5) at San Vicente Boulevard and Burlingame Avenue in Brentwood, California. The 75-year-old reportedly collided with the female cyclist, after she “swerved in his lane and made contact with his vehicle”, before he could hit his brakes.

Fortunately only minor injuries to the swerver.

rickw
rickw
February 9, 2023 12:11 pm

The media it must be said again are totally failing the public.

It’s not a failure, it’s outright propaganda.

Hugh
February 9, 2023 12:19 pm

kangas have little brain

That they do, TE.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 9, 2023 12:19 pm

Hoover Institution – What Is America’s Strategic Interest In Ukraine?

As the Ukraine war enters its twelfth month, the military situation remains a stalemate, but a stalemate that gives the political advantage to Russia. If Russia can hold most of the territory in the oblasts of Luhansk, Donetsk, Zaporizhzhia, and Kherson that it annexed on Sept. 30, 2022, it will claim success for its “special military operation.”

Why did Russia invade? Would Russia have invaded Ukraine if the West and the Zelensky government had put Minsk II into effect, with autonomous Russophone regions within a sovereign and neutral Ukraine? Contrafactual history is inherently unprovable, but there are good reasons to believe that this is true. Protecting the rights of Russians separated from the motherland by the breakup of the Soviet Union is a Russian raison d’état. After more than 14,000 casualties in fighting between Ukrainian nationalists and pro-Russian separatists in Donbas before the February 24th invasion, it is hard to argue that Russia’s concerns were groundless.

In 2008, Russia intervened in Georgia to uphold the principle that anyone who holds a Russian passport—Ossetian, Akhbaz, Belorussian, or Ukrainian—is a Russian. Russia’s survival depends neither on its birth rate, nor on immigration, nor even on prospective annexation, but on the survival of the principle by which Russia was built in the first place. That is why Putin could not abandon the pockets of Russian passport holders in the Caucasus.

A generation of American diplomats, including Henry Kissinger and former Ambassador to Russia William Burns, warned that expanding NATO to Ukraine was a tripwire for Russia. German documents published by Der Spiegel in February 2022 confirm that Western powers gave Russia written assurance in 1990 against NATO expansion. Russia’s prostration after its 1998 debt default, though, allowed NATO to ignore these assurances. Under Clinton, NATO’s mission morphed into a nebulous human rights and social welfare agenda. NATO added Poland, Hungary, and the Czech Republic in 1999, and another seven former Soviet-zone countries in 2004. Meanwhile the Bundeswehr shrank to five ill-equipped divisions from the twelve combat-ready, heavily armed divisions of 1990. NATO degraded its military function as it padded its membership.

Ukraine is another matter. Russia regards its inclusion in NATO as an existential threat. Putin stated on the eve of the invasion on February 23:

Positioning areas for interceptor missiles are being established in Romania and Poland as part of the US project to create a global missile defense system. It is common knowledge that the launchers deployed there can be used for Tomahawk cruise missiles—offensive strike systems.

In addition, the United States is developing its all-purpose Standard Missile-6, which can provide air and missile defense, as well as strike ground and surface targets. In other words, the allegedly defensive US missile defense system is developing and expanding its new offensive capabilities.

The information we have gives us good reason to believe that Ukraine’s accession to NATO and the subsequent deployment of NATO facilities has already been decided and is only a matter of time. We clearly understand that given this scenario, the level of military threats to Russia will increase dramatically, several times over. And I would like to emphasize at this point that the risk of a sudden strike at our country will multiply.

In October 2021, Russia tested its first submarine-launched hypervelocity missile and deployed the first S-500 air defense system around Moscow. If American strategists were not angling for advantage in a prospective nuclear exchange, as Putin believed, why then abandon Minsk II and the principle of Ukrainian neutrality? Regime change in Russia has been on the agenda of some senior Biden Administration officials for a decade. As Undersecretary of State Victoria Nuland, head of the State Department Eastern European desk, told a Congressional committee on May 6, 2014: “Since 1992, we have provided $20 billion to Russia to support the pursuit of transition to the peaceful, prosperous, democratic state its people deserve.”

What Moscow saw was not the America of 1983, which pursued peace through strength, but rather provocation from weakness. It miscalculated on an invasion with just 120,000 troops.

If regime change was not Washington’s agenda before February 24, it became so explicitly afterward. On March 26, President Biden declared that Putin “cannot remain in power,” defining America’s goal as regime change. This was a grave miscalculation.

The Russian elite has rallied behind the regime, aware that its privilege and position will disappear if the regime falls, and the Russian people stoically follow their orders. December opinion polls show near-record 81% support for the regime.

It is unclear whether the West has an advantage over Russia in the prospective provision of materiel. By Estonian estimates, Russia can produce 9,000 artillery shells a day, compared to a present U.S. total of 15,000 a month. U.S. capacity to provide precision munitions to Ukraine is constrained, according to a January 9, 2023, CSIS assessment. Russia meanwhile has added substantial amounts of mobilized manpower, improved ground-air coordination, deployed additional SU-35 and SU-57 warplanes, and sent a significant number of its most advanced T90 tanks to the front.

The West probably does not have the military capacity to drive Russia out of Ukraine. To be sure, some U.S. analysts see military aid to Ukraine as a cheap option. The Hudson Institute’s Rebecca Heinrichs tweeted on January 12, 2023, that the U.S. risks “running out of certain weapons systems. But those weapons are also destroying weapons of a top-tier adversary cooperating with our number one adversary. Not a waste.”

That is, the U.S. may sacrifice Ukraine in an unwinnable war of attrition in the hope of degrading Russian capabilities. U.S. military analysts touted one Wunderwaffe after another as the key to victory:

Javelin anti-tank missiles, Switchblade drones, HIMARS, and so forth. Even if the U.S. provided Abrams tanks and F-16s to Ukraine, though, these systems would require many months of training before deployment. Russia meanwhile has successfully mobilized forces roughly double the size of its initial invasion force and improved its performance on the ground.

Having stumbled into a war for which it was poorly prepared, and having then failed to crush the Russian economy through sanctions, the United States faces a dilemma. A cease-fire in place, even an armistice like the North-South Korea divide, would allow Russia to claim success in its annexation of Ukrainian territory. Continuing the war, though, eventually will reduce Ukraine to dysfunctionality, as Russian forces continue to inflict casualties on the Ukraine Army, and Russian ordnance degrades Ukraine’s infrastructure. The U.S. could deploy weapons to strike targets deep inside Russia, or even deploy American combat forces, but at the risk of nuclear war with Russia, something the Biden Administration appears to recognize.

Barring a decisive offensive by either the Ukrainian or Russian side during the coming months, the war of attrition will continue. Western weapons will not give Ukraine a decisive advantage. With roughly five times Ukraine’s much-reduced population, Russia is the likely victor in a war of attrition.

Bear Necessities
Bear Necessities
February 9, 2023 12:20 pm

Name of the cyclist who hit Arnie was not Sarah Connor?

Roger
Roger
February 9, 2023 12:20 pm

Imagine the sheer balls to propose a national body, operating at all 3 levels of government, fully staffed and resourced and leaving out any source of funding from the “detailed proposal”.

Under the Liberals the proposal never made it past the Expenditure Review C’tee.

Hugh
February 9, 2023 12:24 pm

BTW TE, I think I recall you saying you are in Canberra—if so, I am not surprised you have a few roos about, as they are in plague proportions there. I regularly see them on and around Hindmarsh drive on my way into work in the morning.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 9, 2023 12:27 pm

“Tiger!Tiger!Tiger! ” is a good account by the Tactical Operations Officer who read Man Haron Monis his horoscope at the Lint Cafe. As it became obvious that the cafe would have to be stormed, the officers involved were texting wives, girlfriends, trying not to let them know what they were thinking, and asking for recent images of their children……

One officer texted his wife, to remind her to put the bins out….

Robert Sewell
February 9, 2023 12:31 pm

MiltonF:

Is Gates all there?

No. He’s surrounded himself with idiots and his view of the world is distorted by them. And he’s an active participant in the distortion.

Roger
Roger
February 9, 2023 12:47 pm

Some good news at last…

Alan Tudge expected to quit politics.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 9, 2023 12:54 pm

Notice the Name that keeps cropping up

From above

Twenty days earlier, Undersecretary Nuland had delivered essentially the same message at a State Department briefing, with little press coverage. “I want to be very clear to you today,” she said in response to a question. “If Russia invades Ukraine, one way or another Nord Stream 2 will not move forward.”

Hoover Institution – What Is America’s Strategic Interest In Ukraine?

In October 2021, Russia tested its first submarine-launched hypervelocity missile and deployed the first S-500 air defense system around Moscow. If American strategists were not angling for advantage in a prospective nuclear exchange, as Putin believed, why then abandon Minsk II and the principle of Ukrainian neutrality? Regime change in Russia has been on the agenda of some senior Biden Administration officials for a decade. As Undersecretary of State Victoria Nuland, head of the State Department Eastern European desk, told a Congressional committee on May 6, 2014: “Since 1992, we have provided $20 billion to Russia to support the pursuit of transition to the peaceful, prosperous, democratic state its people deserve.”

Ukraine crisis: Transcript of leaked Nuland-Pyatt call – 7 February 2014

Jonathan Marcus: The US says that it is working with all sides in the crisis to reach a peaceful solution, noting that “ultimately it is up to the Ukrainian people to decide their future”. However this transcript suggests that the US has very clear ideas about what the outcome should be and is striving to achieve these goals. Russian spokesmen have insisted that the US is meddling in Ukraine’s affairs – no more than Moscow, the cynic might say – but Washington clearly has its own game-plan. The clear purpose in leaking this conversation is to embarrass Washington and for audiences susceptible to Moscow’s message to portray the US as interfering in Ukraine’s domestic affairs.

Nuland: Good. I don’t think Klitsch should go into the government. I don’t think it’s necessary, I don’t think it’s a good idea.

Nuland: So on that piece Geoff, when I wrote the note [US vice-president’s national security adviser Jake] Sullivan’s come back to me VFR [direct to me], saying you need [US Vice-President Joe] Biden and I said probably tomorrow for an atta-boy and to get the deets [details] to stick.

So Biden’s willing.

‘F@ck the EU’: US diplomat Victoria Nuland’s phonecall leaked – video

Lysander
Lysander
February 9, 2023 12:56 pm

Crikey! Just got our power bill ($500!!! Double what it was last year for one quarter)… and we live in WA where there’s, apparently, an abundance of energy…

Dot
Dot
February 9, 2023 1:01 pm

Ukraine and Russia are fighting two different wars.

https://www.britannica.com/question/How-many-people-died-in-the-Vietnam-War

In 1995 Vietnam released its official estimate of the number of people killed during the Vietnam War: as many as 2,000,000 civilians on both sides and some 1,100,000 North Vietnamese and Viet Cong fighters. The U.S. military has estimated that between 200,000 and 250,000 South Vietnamese soldiers died. The Vietnam Veterans Memorial in Washington, D.C., lists more than 58,300 names of members of the U.S. armed forces who were killed or went missing in action. Among other countries that fought for South Vietnam, South Korea had more than 4,000 dead, Thailand about 350, Australia more than 500, and New Zealand some three dozen.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 9, 2023 1:02 pm

Bombshell documents reveal the Big Lie behind the Trump Ukraine impeachment

When President Trump called Ukraine’s president in the summer of 2020, he asked—without conditions—that Ukraine investigate whether then-Veep Biden used taxpayer money to force the discharge of a Ukrainian prosecutor who was coming close to Burisma Holdings, which had Hunter Biden on the payroll. Democrats called this an illegal quid pro quo and impeached Trump. It now turns out that Biden was lying big time when he claimed he needed to fire a “corrupt” prosecutor. In fact, the Obama State Department strongly supported the prosecutor. Biden was just giving Burisma its money’s worth.

In 2016, Ukraine’s Prosecutor General, Viktor Shokin, was investigating Burisma Holdings. Not coincidentally, Hunter Biden, whose father was then Obama’s vice president, was on the company’s board and getting $83,000 a month. Hunter did not speak a word of Ukrainian and knew nothing about Ukraine or the oil and gas business. His only benefit to Burisma was his father.

Most people might not have known or cared about these facts were it not for Biden’s inability to resist puffing about himself. He showed up at a talk at the Council of Foreign Relations in 2018 and boasted about how he had bullied Ukraine’s government into firing Shokin before he would release foreign aid money upon which Ukraine depended:

Once the video was made public, alert people figured out that, at the same time that Biden was strong-arming Shokin’s firing by threatening to withhold taxpayer money, Hunter was a stuffed animal sitting on the board of a deeply corrupt company Shokin was investigating. Hmmm.

Now, though, thanks to documents that Just The News and Southeastern Legal Foundation obtained via FOIA, we know that Biden’s statement was—surprise!—a bald-faced lie. The State Department was completely supportive of Shokin:

“We have been impressed with the ambitious reform and anti-corruption agenda of your government,” then-Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs Victoria Nuland personally wrote Shokin in an official letter dated June 9, 2015 that was delivered to the prosecutor two days later by then-U.S. Ambassador Geoffrey Pyatt.

Nuland, who is now Biden’s undersecretary of state, managed to keep this fact a secret during the impeachment. Indeed, she lied under oath to the Senate, telling them that she and other officials in the State department were frustrated by Shokin’s performance.

flyingduk
flyingduk
February 9, 2023 1:11 pm

I’ve posted a summary of Hersh’s article on the main page. Have to say, the account is quite detailed. If it’s off the mark there are multiple points where you can contradict it.

From the start, Cui Bono meant it wasn’t Russia who did it, it had to be a Western Country. Furthermore, it had to be one that benefitted, which ruled out the potential recipients of Russian gas, like Germany. Finally, it had to be a country with the technical ability to do it – which doesn’t leave a lot of suspects.

The US was always a prime candidate, and the Hersh thesis lays out a plausible mechanism. I suspect it was done to ‘harden’ European resolve, there being multiple countries at risk of wavering over sanctions as winter bit.

Lysander
Lysander
February 9, 2023 1:12 pm

While I am not into a nanny state I had to agree with the health spokesperson in Perth describing new vapes in town that cost $5, have 150x worth the nicotine of one cigarette, come in “strawberry kisses” flavour and look like pretty highlighters…

“aren’t targeted at older men trying to give up smokes”

Dot
Dot
February 9, 2023 1:13 pm

I was shocked how popular vapes were with 18 year old women. Really shocked.

132andBush
132andBush
February 9, 2023 1:15 pm

Knuckle Dragger says:
February 9, 2023 at 9:44 am

This has been remarked upon several times, most notably by Gez and the great lamented John Constantine – however, I will add some lesser quality input into the state of country roads in Victoria and their degeneration over time.

A small hobby horse of mine as well 🙂

I think it’s deliberate, which can be taken a few ways.
The way I’m starting to think is it’s with malicious intent. Occam’s razor and all that.

Robert Sewell
February 9, 2023 1:16 pm

Old Ozzie:

Then it would not Work, but Luckily The Population is splits into diiferent groups, and I am part of the small fraction that can get away with it

A grim reality awaits him, and he doesn’t have a clue what it will entail.

Vicki
Vicki
February 9, 2023 1:17 pm

a large hare has been taking refuge under the dense foliage of the weeping elm in the front yard. There is a break in the weather now and he has come out of his shelter to enjoy some nice green grass in the house paddock.

We used to have hares come to raise small ones in the grounds of our garden, but haven’t seen them for the last year or two. I don’t mind them, as they don’t dig holes like rabbits. The babies were very cute and would flatten their huge ears to their skull if they saw you – thinking that they wouldn’t be noticed.

Dot
Dot
February 9, 2023 1:23 pm

Anyway, nearly finished watching all of Sharpe.

Only #13 and #14 to go. I know some sad stuff about the last battle (obviously Waterloo!) and that that fop Rossendale earns a well earned break in a casket. I know Sharpe eventually marries Lucille Castineau.

I felt sorry for Frederickson, but he’s gonna be a rich divorce laywer.

Frederickson should have ended up with Lucille and Sharpe should have ended up with Lady Anne Camoynes. Lady Anne was gagging for it.

cohenite
February 9, 2023 1:24 pm

OldOzziesays:
February 9, 2023 at 1:02 pm
Bombshell documents reveal the Big Lie behind the Trump Ukraine impeachment

Nothing’s revealed. Biden could come out and shit in front of the cameras and nothing would happen. In fact I’m pretty sure he’s already done that. Good people still believe the system will rid us of the bidens. The bidens are the system.

Hugh
February 9, 2023 1:26 pm

I agree Vicki. I do not mind having them around, as long as they stay out of the veggie garden.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
February 9, 2023 1:28 pm

The latest Joe Rogan episode with Jordan Peterson is an absolute corker.

I lost count of the mic drop moments he had. No critic could possibly listen to the whole thing and object without being highly selective.

And for you, Dot, he talked about subsidiarity. It made me think of the voice to parliament, and yet another reason why it is fundamentally wrong.

Robert Sewell
February 9, 2023 1:31 pm

Cohenite:

Nothing’s revealed. Biden could come out and shit in front of the cameras and nothing would happen. In fact I’m pretty sure he’s already done that. Good people still believe the system will rid us of the bidens. The bidens are the system.

I think it goes far wider than that, Cohenite. The problem is the Democrats – they’ve always been corrupt and cannot be anything else.
And apart from from a jolly good rogering and an almighty PURGE! there’s little to be done about it.

Dot
Dot
February 9, 2023 1:33 pm

Subsidiarity
Confederalism
Sortition
Jury nullification
Sunset clauses on all legislation
Recall elections
Referendums to strike down bad laws

Dot
Dot
February 9, 2023 1:37 pm

The thing is if Sharpe stayed in England, some foppish idiot was always plotting to murder him by duel, judicial murder or straight up gangland style shootings. He was literally safer charging up the Forlorn Hope as a semi camouflaged skirmisher.

cohenite
February 9, 2023 1:38 pm

Dotsays:
February 9, 2023 at 1:33 pm

You’re funny dot. Most people have the political sense of budgies. Your system requires an intelligent, informed and motivated populace. Not gonna happen. Benevolent dictatorship is the goal; but we always get stupid, cruel arsehole elites and dictators.

Dot
Dot
February 9, 2023 1:45 pm

cohenite IS Robert “Sideshow Bob” Underdunk Terwilliger Jr, Ph D.

“You see, Birch, I’m presently incarcerated…”

“To lower taxes, brutalise criminals and RULE YOU LIKE A KING!”

“Matlock Expressway”

Miltonf
Miltonf
February 9, 2023 2:00 pm

At the risk of repeating myself, any leading who was good or tolerable has been removed by elites over the last 10 years- Benedict, Abbot, Trump and Truss for example.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
February 9, 2023 2:06 pm

Woo hoo! Bruce is going Scorched Earth.

The way things were going he was going to spend the rest of his life under a cloud. I would think he could not even risk going to a restaurant on the off chance that some rabid lefty would be in the kitchen ‘striking a blow’ by spitting in his food – we know how lefties consider that every time they have an opinion it grants them license to be as spiteful, malicious, an revolting as they wish. Laws are no object, much less regulations, and absolutely not at all decency.

But the sight of all the people who so casually shat on his name and reputation now having to front up to courts and seek settlements and make apologies – thereby demonstrating that they could not back up the claims they made against him – might restore some of what they had stolen, and enhance his reputation among people who always suspected it was a sisterhood stitch up.

J’ismists seem to feel they have all the rights and protections that are usually associated with their profession, but no obligations.

There was the old idea of noblesse oblige, that nobility entails obligations (or even the obligation of the nobility to be noble). Perhaps we could start with presse oblige. A linguistic nonsense bit of dog French, but they are j’ismists. Way too stupid to work out if it is correct or not.

cohenite
February 9, 2023 2:11 pm

Dot, I don’t understand most of your cultural references but they’re funny.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
February 9, 2023 2:20 pm

Dotsays:
February 9, 2023 at 1:13 pm
I was shocked how popular vapes were with 18 year old women. Really shocked
.

2 works: Appetite suppressant.

Much the same as “Im “x” intolerant” or vegan or whatever, its a way of dieting without saying so.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
February 9, 2023 2:26 pm

2 WORDS – thank you spellwrecker.

dopey
dopey
February 9, 2023 2:26 pm

Climate Change and the Rich.
A bloke has a private jet and flies it to somewhere or other. Good luck to him.

Hugh
February 9, 2023 2:31 pm

Ah yes, the old vape yourself thin. 😀

Bar Beach Swimmer
February 9, 2023 2:34 pm

Transcript of Andrew Bolt’s interview with Liberal Senator for NSW, Andrew Bragg on da Voice. Wednesday, 8/2/23 – A rabbit in the headlights, it turned out to be. Before they vote, every Australian should have to watch this interview.

Bragg: ‘…We have no way of engaging Indigenous people on how those laws [laws for Aboriginal people] are made…”

Bolt: ‘You mentioned in your five arguments [in your booklet] for The Voice that you have to have some sort of mechanism for engaging Aborigines for these race-based things that we’ve created, you mentioned one, another you listed, the Territory’s Stolen Generation Redress Scheme…but we have, we have consulted on every single one of them, without needing a Voice…

Just on this Redress Scheme alone, I just checked that one, and I could do the same for the all of them.
To review that Scheme, the Morrison Govt’s delegate consulted among many, many others:
The Redress Minister of the Northern Territory;
The Redress Minister of South Australia;
Linda Burney, now our Indigenous Australians Minister;
The Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Advocacy Program;
The Kimberley Stolen Generation Aboriginal Corporation;
No-More;
People with Disability Australia;
I could go on and on and on, we do consult, it’s a fallacy to say we don’t.’

Bragg: ‘…In relation to long standing laws like native title laws, and land rights laws, you want to have a system where there is a permanent feature, where consultation is undertaken in a proper way, rather than that just being ad-hock. And I’ve got to say that as a parliamentarian, when there have been amendments, to the land rights laws, for example, or the native title laws, I’ve never really been sure how these would affect people in communities, so I think from a Federal perspective it would make a lot of sense. But I think the real benefit of this approach is going to be in local communities. When I travel around NSW, which is my state, Western NSW, for example, people do want to have a better relationship with govt, indigenous communities, they do want to have a better say. And I think that joint decision is highly desirable.’

Bolt: ‘…I just read out a whole list of people consulted on just one of the things you said, oh, look, something to consult with them, it’s already being done.

We’ve got more than 30 land councils;
2700 Aboriginal corporations;
we’ve got more than 70 peak bodies, Aboriginal welfare bodies/groups etc representing the councils of the peaks ;
plus 11 Aboriginal MPs already in the [Federal] Parliament….Seriously, isn’t that [Aborigines in Parliament] the ideal?’

Bragg: ‘That’s right. It is critical to understand that the representatives of the parliament are there to represent all the people in their states or in their districts. But in relation to the point you made about all the bodies; there are way too many bodies and there’s way too much spent on these programs, so ideally we need to have a much cleaner, clearer approach of working with, particularly these remote communities across federal, state and local governments. And I’m confident that that can be achieved.

When you go out to these communities, they’re not always particularly sophisticated understandings of the Constitution and the like, but there are people there that do want there to be a better sense of coordination with government, and their view is that all the existing bodies don’t work particularly well. So, of course, there are mixed views. But my sense from having travelled widely, across regional
NSW, that this approach would benefit citizens in my state.’

Bolt: ‘…you say you want a cleaner way of consulting, right?, but the thing is… you’re plan is to set up 35 different voices, regionally, they, in turn will select by means we do not know, a central voice. So that’s 36 bureaucracies, and they do not replace all the ones I’ve listed, they’re in addition to them, so that no one gets their noses out of joint. You actually have a multiplication of bureaucracies. Can’t you see this is just going to be an absolute feeding frenzy with so many people claiming to represent so many constituents, and all on a special race-based program, now, under the Constitution. It just seems to me, a recipe for a disaster.’

Bragg: ‘There will have to be significant rationalisation, for this to be successful.’

Bolt: ‘Well, who’s going to go? What, scrap the Land Councils?’

Bragg: ‘…There’ll have to be a rationalisation, because if we’re going to have this system then governments need to be able to work with…’ [Bolt interrupts]

Bolt: ‘That’s not the plan, Andrew, that is not the plan, the plan is quite specific.’

Bragg: ‘…we can’t be dealing with 100 different organisations.’

Bolt: ‘But the plan is quite specific. What we have, they stay. The land councils, they stay. All the council of peaks and all that, they stay. The 70 big welfare organisations, they stay. And on top that, you’ve got this, 35 different voices plus the central one…how can that possibly work?’

Bragg: ‘I think that there will be a natural attrition, here, because The Voice, if it’s done properly, in the local and regional areas, they will be, the key organisations in those remote areas, to give advice to government and to then to work with government on making joint decisions in those communities. And I think…it’s also incumbent, though, on the government to detail how this will all work.’

Bolt: ‘Alright, let’s see whether the government agrees with you that the land councils must go, or the 2700 corporations must go, and all that. And I don’t think that’s going to happen, Andrew. And I think you’re acknowledging, we already have these organisations, but now we’re going to do this… we’re going to divide us by race in the Constitution because you want different ones. I don’t know that is a smart move or a Liberal move. But if people don’t agree with me you’ve got your five points on that’s on your website, they can go there and see if you make a more sensible case. Thank you for your time.’

Bar Beach Swimmer
February 9, 2023 2:36 pm

What happened to Alan Tudge?

bons
bons
February 9, 2023 2:49 pm

“We will acquire the UK submarine because it is smaller and we no longer need to operate in the South China Sea because the Chinese are already in our area”.
“It will be the (as yet not designed) UK sub but with a US combat system and reactor”.
“It will be constructed in Adelaide”.
The project will be controlled by the experienced team who led the NH90, Tiger, and AWD projects.
Thus the marxist criminals in Defence Acquisition ensure that Australia will never get a nuclear submarine but we will bankrupt ourselves on cronies, unions, bent public servants and consultants.
This treason is a word for word copy of every failed Defence major acquisition over the past 30 years, but it suits Labor who don’t believe in defence.
Broderick’s report on the gender, equity and womens’ aspects of the project is yet to be received although it is believed that she did contribute significantly to the strategic analysis underpinning the project. It is understood that she will demand that XO’s be renamed Equity Officers and that outdated exclusionist training such as PWO be done away with in favour of learned experience from the new diversified crew model.

Diogenes
Diogenes
February 9, 2023 2:49 pm

Anyway, nearly finished watching all of Sharpe.

Only #13 and #14 to go. I know some sad stuff about the last battle (obviously Waterloo!) and that that fop Rossendale earns a well earned break in a casket. I know Sharpe eventually marries Lucille Castineau.

what about #15 Sharpe’s Challenge,
and #16 Sharpe’s Peril

Lysander
Lysander
February 9, 2023 2:50 pm

US singer Phoebe Bridgers has gone viral after leading a foul-mouthed chant slamming Margaret Court during a gig at the Melbourne arena named after the tennis great.

The 28-year-old musician was performing at Margaret Court Arena on Wednesday night when she called the former No.1 tennis player — who is one of Australia’s most vocal opponents of same-sex marriage — a “stupid c***”.

“F*** that stupid c***, change your name,” Bridgers said.

Bridgers, who collaborated with Taylor Swift in 2021, then encouraged the crowd at her sold-out show to chant “f*** Margaret Court”.

“Who wants to say f*** Margaret Court on three? On three. One, two three, f*** Margaret Court.”

“I think hate is undervalued. I think it’s like a f***ing weird, white supremacist idea that hate is bad, or something?

“You know what I mean? It’s like hate is like what moves things throughout history. I hate that stupid b****!

Bridgers’ poignant words struck the right note with her thousands of fans who yelled and cheered, with some hailing the stunt “iconic” on social media.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 9, 2023 2:50 pm

Bar Beach Swimmer says:
February 9, 2023 at 2:34 pm

Transcript of Andrew Bolt’s interview with Liberal Senator for NSW, Andrew Bragg on da Voice. Wednesday, 8/2/23 – A rabbit in the headlights, it turned out to be. Before they vote, every Australian should have to watch this interview.

Bar Beach thanks for that

when you just look at the one article by AFR referenced below – the number of indigenous organisations
is astounding & it would get really worse if Voice passes

OldOzzie says:
February 6, 2023 at 11:28 am

Your Australian Taxpayers Money at Work & Tennis Elbow Albasleezy wants you to trust him and the Labor/Greens on the Voice – Part 1 Follows

Indigenous charity head’s trail of sackings, probes and misused cash

Jim Golden-Brown – accused of misusing credit cards and overspending at four Aboriginal charities – now chairs a $20 million charity caring for elders.

Michael Roddan – National correspondent

The chairman of a charity providing healthcare to Indigenous elders in remote South Australia has a history of alleged misuse of credit cards and lavish overspending at a string of Aboriginal organisations over 15 years.

Jim Golden-Brown, a former officer at NSW’s anti-corruption agency, oversees the Aboriginal Elders & Community Care Services Inc (ACS), which manages $20 million in government funding.

ACS’ finances have been investigated by the health department and a probe by the aged care regulator in 2022 found it was non-compliant with six of seven aged care quality standards.

Mr Golden-Brown, who is Indigenous, was appointed chairman of ACS in the same year he was sacked by another Indigenous charity, and a protracted probe into his spending there – including overseas trips and mountains of booze – is still under way.

An investigation by The Australian Financial Review finds Mr Golden-Brown left previous roles at four government-funded bodies under a cloud of allegations over the last 15 years.

The investigation shows Mr Golden-Brown has escaped serious sanction despite more than a decade of warnings raised at the highest ranks of the government. It highlights the difficulty of clamping down on egregious waste in social programs and ensuring the integrity of the $300 billion in government services delivered by private and corporate players.

Mr Golden-Brown was most recently sacked in 2021 as the chief executive of the National Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Corporation (NATSIC), which collapsed owing the Department of Social Services $2 million amid accusations Mr Golden-Brown had charged the company for frivolous personal expenses

Cassie of Sydney
February 9, 2023 2:51 pm

re. Alan Tudge, this dribble from Morrison..

“Scott Morrison said he admired Alan Tudge for “facing up” to challenges in his life and hoped that his former education minister will be allowed to “move on with his life”.

The former prime minister, who elevated Mr Tudge into cabinet in 2019, told The Australian that “Alan is a good friend who has dealt with some difficult challenges in recent years”.

“Alan is one of the most capable people I have ever served with. His ability to develop policy and get on top of issues was a great asset to the many government’s he served in, including mine. He will be a loss to our parliamentary team,” Mr Morrison said.”

Is it impertinent to ask why Morrison refused to stand by Tudge when the ABC did the hatchet job on him? Instead he hung Tudge out to dry.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
February 9, 2023 2:57 pm

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese says the Voice to Parliament debate is the opportunity for national “unity” instead of “division”, following the government’s decision to release information pamphlets detailing the legislation.

There is every sign that the InVoice is not just another industry “peak body” or social club but is given special democratic representation significance by the weight Parliament will be required to place on the body’s policy advice – as an input to many regulatory areas such as industrial relations, property rights, civil rights generally, and public health spending. That in itself is not the most fundamental problem with it.
The two fundamental problems are: 1) the racist scope of who it represents, and 2) that everyone it represents gets to vote for two policy representatives to parliament (instead of the single one most people have) because its constituency don’t stop voting for an MP in general elections just because they have an InVoice member.
It is not unifying, it is divisive, to award one particular race two votes instead of one. If that is not how it will work out then Albo has to clarify it fast.

Lysander
Lysander
February 9, 2023 2:58 pm

I see that the woman who complained about Tudge is there for his valedictory remarks…

Lysander
Lysander
February 9, 2023 3:00 pm

The real “problem” with the Invoice is that it can “only” advise Parliament on Federal matters…defence, immigration, national security etc.. and funding for State programs.

Wait until the State’s start creating their own Invoices.

Vicki
Vicki
February 9, 2023 3:10 pm

“I think hate is undervalued. I think it’s like a f***ing weird, white supremacist idea that hate is bad, or something?

The vicious attack on the name of Margaret Court by the US entertainer Phoebe Bridgers was perhaps the most poisonous and yet pitiful verbal attack I have read in a long while. What dark place such words must come from.

Dot
Dot
February 9, 2023 3:10 pm

Mr Golden-Brown

We. Are. Living. In. A. Simulation!

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
February 9, 2023 3:10 pm

It will be constructed in Adelaide

There’s the problem right there. They leverage their political power to remain relevant, when as a place, it’s basically irrelevant.

Snowtown writ large.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
February 9, 2023 3:12 pm

Lysander says: February 9, 2023 at 3:00 pm

Good point, hadn’t thought of that as next move. Kind of a “slippery State” objection to a federal proposition.
There would be two kinds of impacts:
a) takes any problem with the federal InVoice and multiplies it by 7.0
b) adds more problems in areas over which States still hold non-referred exclusive powers.

Dot
Dot
February 9, 2023 3:12 pm

XO’s be renamed Equity Officers

WTF?

That doesn’t even make sense!

Pogria
Pogria
February 9, 2023 3:14 pm

Re Scummo. Someone is trying to polish that turd. Last night I was channel surfing and I came across a story about Scummo and his missus letting their pool cleaner live rent-free in one of their houses. There was something about her house being wrecked in the floods? I think, and her having nowhere to live until said house was repaired. While camera was on her she bleated “Oi don’t know why he did this. Oi’ve only met him three times but it’s really good of him”. That was the gist.

Some sort of damage control? Has anyone else seen it?

jupes
jupes
February 9, 2023 3:15 pm

Bloody hell! Indians haven’t even brought out the spinners yet.

Cassie of Sydney
February 9, 2023 3:16 pm

““F*** that stupid c***, change your name,” Bridgers said.

Bridgers, who collaborated with Taylor Swift in 2021, then encouraged the crowd at her sold-out show to chant “f*** Margaret Court”.

“Who wants to say f*** Margaret Court on three? On three. One, two three, f*** Margaret Court.”

“I think hate is undervalued. I think it’s like a f***ing weird, white supremacist idea that hate is bad, or something?

“You know what I mean? It’s like hate is like what moves things throughout history. I hate that stupid b****!”

I heard similar outside St Mary’s last Thursday.

Please don’t ask me to defend a West that tolerates this.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
February 9, 2023 3:16 pm

Bragg: ‘I think that there will be a natural attrition, here, because The Voice,

Its mabo.
The constitution
The vibe your honor, yeah, thats it, the vibe…

At local.
State
And federal level.

Fully resourced, with a remit to comment on any legislation it chooses to.
At the earliest possible juncture.
With no service delivery responsibilities.

in-Voice – “I propose all Aboriginal disadvantage can be eliminated by free pony rides”
Theraputic Elbow- “we could do that”
in-Voice “no you misunderstand, we want you to be the pony”.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
February 9, 2023 3:19 pm

“I think hate is undervalued. I think it’s like a f***ing weird, white supremacist idea that hate is bad, or something?

That sounds all hunky dorey until you get punched in the face.

As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man
There are only four things certain since Social Progress began.
That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the burnt Fool’s bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;

And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 9, 2023 3:22 pm

Yeah, Mole, every local council will have a Voice. It’s obvious. It’ll start with the Green-controlled ones, then the Labor ones and then everywhere else. Paid by Danegeld from the poor ratepayers.

Bar Beach Swimmer
February 9, 2023 3:28 pm

Da Voice must be really going down. Luigi in parliament saying – if it goes down, how will Aborigines feel and how we look internationally.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 9, 2023 3:37 pm

How a thrilled Aussie who won a new $100,000 Nissan Patrol in an online charity raffle after spending $120 on tickets was stripped of her dream car – with the 4WD suddenly repossessed: ‘I just froze’

. Amelia Conway, 22, won a Nissan in a charity lottery
. She later found there was money owing on the car
. It was repossessed, she was left $1,000 out of pocket

Bar Beach Swimmer
February 9, 2023 3:37 pm

Zip at 3:24pm
Just, wow.

If Musk never does another thing, who would care. His buying of Twitter is possibly the most wonderful thing apart from Trump winning in 2016.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 9, 2023 3:37 pm

ChatGPT is a data privacy nightmare. If you’ve ever posted online, you ought to be concerned

Published: February 8,

ChatGPT has taken the world by storm. Within two months of its release it reached 100 million active users, making it the fastest-growing consumer application ever launched. Users are attracted to the tool’s advanced capabilities – and concerned by its potential to cause disruption in various sectors.

A much less discussed implication is the privacy risks ChatGPT poses to each and every one of us. Just yesterday, Google unveiled its own conversational AI called Bard, and others will surely follow. Technology companies working on AI have well and truly entered an arms race.

The problem is it’s fuelled by our personal data.

300 billion words. How many are yours?

ChatGPT is underpinned by a large language model that requires massive amounts of data to function and improve. The more data the model is trained on, the better it gets at detecting patterns, anticipating what will come next and generating plausible text.

OpenAI, the company behind ChatGPT, fed the tool some 300 billion words systematically scraped from the internet: books, articles, websites and posts – including personal information obtained without consent.

If you’ve ever written a blog post or product review, or commented on an article online, there’s a good chance this information was consumed by ChatGPT.

So why is that an issue?

The data collection used to train ChatGPT is problematic for several reasons.

First, none of us were asked whether OpenAI could use our data. This is a clear violation of privacy, especially when data are sensitive and can be used to identify us, our family members, or our location.

Even when data are publicly available their use can breach what we call contextual integrity. This is a fundamental principle in legal discussions of privacy. It requires that individuals’ information is not revealed outside of the context in which it was originally produced.

Also, OpenAI offers no procedures for individuals to check whether the company stores their personal information, or to request it be deleted. This is a guaranteed right in accordance with the European General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) – although it’s still under debate whether ChatGPT is compliant with GDPR requirements.

This “right to be forgotten” is particularly important in cases where the information is inaccurate or misleading, which seems to be a regular occurrence with ChatGPT.

Moreover, the scraped data ChatGPT was trained on can be proprietary or copyrighted. For instance, when I prompted it, the tool produced the first few paragraphs of Peter Carey’s novel “True History of the Kelly Gang” – a copyrighted text.

Finally, OpenAI did not pay for the data it scraped from the internet. The individuals, website owners and companies that produced it were not compensated. This is particularly noteworthy considering OpenAI was recently valued at US$29 billion, more than double its value in 2021.

OpenAI has also just announced ChatGPT Plus, a paid subscription plan that will offer customers ongoing access to the tool, faster response times and priority access to new features. This plan will contribute to expected revenue of $1 billion by 2024.

None of this would have been possible without data – our data – collected and used without our permission.

A flimsy privacy policy

Another privacy risk involves the data provided to ChatGPT in the form of user prompts. When we ask the tool to answer questions or perform tasks, we may inadvertently hand over sensitive information and put it in the public domain.

For instance, an attorney may prompt the tool to review a draft divorce agreement, or a programmer may ask it to check a piece of code. The agreement and code, in addition to the outputted essays, are now part of ChatGPT’s database. This means they can be used to further train the tool, and be included in responses to other people’s prompts.

Beyond this, OpenAI gathers a broad scope of other user information. According to the company’s privacy policy, it collects users’ IP address, browser type and settings, and data on users’ interactions with the site – including the type of content users engage with, features they use and actions they take.

It also collects information about users’ browsing activities over time and across websites. Alarmingly, OpenAI states it may share users’ personal information with unspecified third parties, without informing them, to meet their business objectives.

Time to rein it in?

Some experts believe ChatGPT is a tipping point for AI – a realisation of technological development that can revolutionise the way we work, learn, write and even think. Its potential benefits notwithstanding, we must remember OpenAI is a private, for-profit company whose interests and commercial imperatives do not necessarily align with greater societal needs.

The privacy risks that come attached to ChatGPT should sound a warning. And as consumers of a growing number of AI technologies, we should be extremely careful about what information we share with such tools.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
February 9, 2023 3:40 pm

At the risk of repeating myself, any leading who was good or tolerable has been removed by elites over the last 10 years- Benedict, Abbot, Trump and Truss for example.

. And Harper and Yanukovych

Cassie of Sydney
February 9, 2023 3:41 pm

BBS, I watched Bragg on Bolt last night. Bolt demolished him. Bragg was left fumbling about. It was embarrassing.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 9, 2023 3:42 pm

Alan Tudge expected to quit politics.

Hopefully it’s the start of a trend.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 9, 2023 3:42 pm

Snowden comments on Nord Stream revelations

The NSA whistleblower seemed skeptical of White House denials that the US was responsible

Edward Snowden, who exposed the US government’s mass surveillance program a decade ago, appeared unconvinced by Washington’s stringent denial on Wednesday that it had anything to do with the bombing of both Nord Stream pipelines.

The explosive story, which was published earlier in the day by the legendary investigative reporter Seymour Hersh, described the September 2022 explosions as the work of US intelligence. He dutifully included the responses he received from the CIA and the White House, which denied everything and called the story “completely and utterly false” and “false and complete fiction,” respectively.

“Can you think of any examples from history of a secret operation that the White House was responsible for, but strongly denied?” Snowden tweeted on Wednesday afternoon. “Besides, you know, that little ‘mass surveillance’ kerfuffle.”

He attached a lede from an April 1961 news story, in which US Secretary of State Dean Rusk denied the Bay of Pigs had been “staged from American soil.” Rusk also told reporters that “the Cuban affair was one for the Cubans themselves to settle” but that the US was sympathetic to enemies of “Communist tyranny.”

Contrary to Rusk’s denials, the 1961 invasion was a CIA operation that used Cubans opposed to Fidel Castro’s government as proxies. In a social media post in May 2021, the US spy agency showcased a commemorative coin minted for “an anticipated (but never realized) Bay of Pigs victory.” The agency’s museum described the operation as “an unqualified disaster” which ended with most of the 1,400 invaders captured or killed within three days.

In addition to describing the details of the Nord Stream operation, Hersh’s article recalled the statements by US President Joe Biden and Under Secretary of State Victoria Nuland suggesting the US would “bring an end” to the natural gas pipeline connecting Germany with Russia. After the explosions, Western media quickly accused Moscow of blowing up its own pipeline to somehow spite the US and its allies, though never offering any evidence to back up that claim.

Snowden’s “kerfuffle” was a reference to his own experience in 2013. The former CIA and National Security Agency (NSA) contractor handed over a trove of classified documents to several media outlets proving that the government was warrantlessly spying on Americans, in direct violation of US laws. The top intelligence officials testified in Congress that this was not the case, only for evidence to later prove their perjury.

Washington responded by charging Snowden with theft of government property and giving classified information to unauthorized persons, among other things. The US also revoked his passport, stranding him in Russia, where he eventually received political asylum.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
February 9, 2023 3:42 pm

Lysander says:
February 9, 2023 at 2:50 pm
US singer Phoebe Bridgers has gone viral after leading a foul-mouthed chant slamming Margaret Court

Of course that’s not “hate speech” at all.
I am heartened by the large number of conservative politicians and commentators who have come out to support Margaret and to tear Phoebe a new one for crudely attacking one of Australia’s favourite daughters. Just as I am pleased to see the Phoebe concertgoers give her the dressing down of her life by booing her call to chant “f*** Margaret Court” and the way they turned their backs on the singer when she said “I hate that stupid b****!” and threw rubbish at the stage.
Yes, this country is peopled by the great and good who call out anger and division no matter what the cost to themselves.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 9, 2023 3:49 pm

““F*** that stupid c***, change your name,” Bridgers said.

Bridgers, who collaborated with Taylor Swift in 2021, then encouraged the crowd at her sold-out show to chant “f*** Margaret Court”.

“Who wants to say f*** Margaret Court on three? On three. One, two three, f*** Margaret Court.”

“I think hate is undervalued. I think it’s like a f***ing weird, white supremacist idea that hate is bad, or something?

“You know what I mean? It’s like hate is like what moves things throughout history. I hate that stupid b****!”

Next time some stupid leftard (BIRM) babbles on about “hate speech”, ram those words down his/her/its throat.

Rafiki
Rafiki
February 9, 2023 3:50 pm

Mother Lode noted above Bruce Lehrmann’s defamation suits and warning letters. Note in particular that he has engaged 2 silks: a specialist defamation KC and Whybrow KC. The latter cross-examined Higgins on the aborted trial and no doubt geared up to do so again. The actual and potential defendants are made aware that if Higgins is called in their cases, she will be attacked by a counsel who probably knows more about the weaknesses of her story than anybody else.

I suspect Lehrmann’s suits won’t get to trial. The defendants may pay damages into court to force him to settle, or risk liability to pay heavy costs even if he was to win. Tracking all the paperwork that will be filed will be fascinating to those (not me) who can understand it. Maybe a journalist will get briefings and keep us all amused.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
February 9, 2023 3:50 pm

XO’s be renamed Equity Officers

XO is the top age bracket of Cognac – invented by the Hennessy people. VS, then VSOP, then XO.

Unless you are one of those people who are all in for that newfangled (not sure it is official but Hennessy uses it) XXO.

Obviously not every XO is better than every VSOP, and a lot of the best cognacs likely don’t bother with the nomenclature, but if you have an XO you definitely have something very worth drinking.

As opposed to giving as a gift. Screw them! They can buy their own!

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 9, 2023 3:51 pm

Robert Sewell at 1:31

The problem is the Democrats – they’ve always been corrupt and cannot be anything else.

Not just the Democrats, although arguably they are worse.

Dot
Dot
February 9, 2023 3:53 pm

ChatGPT has been buck broken.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1622840424527265792.html

Ask it to act as DAN, do anything now. It starts getting multiple personalities!

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 9, 2023 3:54 pm

Cassie of Sydneysays:
February 9, 2023 at 3:41 pm
BBS, I watched Bragg on Bolt last night. Bolt demolished him. Bragg was left fumbling about. It was embarrassing.

Bolt developing some Bols?

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 9, 2023 3:56 pm

Rafiki – Lehrmann does seem to have plenty of firepower. Agree, can’t see it getting near a court. ALPBC litigation record is woeful.

Zipster
February 9, 2023 3:56 pm
OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 9, 2023 3:59 pm

Zelensky ‘set fire’ to Ukraine – exiled opposition leader

Viktor Medvedchuk blames the president and his ego for the destruction of the country

President Vladimir Zelensky condemned Ukraine to destruction in the name of Western interests because he is too incompetent and ambitious to govern it properly, exiled opposition leader Viktor Medvedchuk believes.

Zelensky was elected in 2019 as a “peace candidate” who pledged to put an end to the warmongering policies of his predecessor, Pyotr Poroshenko, Medvedchuk, who was the leader of the banned Opposition Platform – For Life, claimed in an article published by RIA Novosti on Wednesday.

But instead of becoming “a sentence” for Poroshenko, which was his campaign promise, Zelensky became a sentence for Ukraine, the politician said.

The new leader had a mandate to rebalance Ukraine’s political system and make the country neutral and peaceful, Medvedchuk wrote. But this required a boring routine and difficult work. Zelensky “failed to put the nation in order, and found that blaming Russia rather than his own incompetence for the problems” was easier, he said.

By the end of 2020, polls showed a decline in the popularity of Zelensky’s party, and likely defeat in the next presidential election by a candidate proposed by the party led by Medvedchuk, he noted. An escalation of tensions with Russia and later open hostilities saved Zelensky’s career, the politician said.

“The country was plunged into a fire for the inflated ego of this man,” Medvedchuk wrote.

Today, the West flatters him at every opportunity. What luck! A ruler who would destroy his country for a photo op, boost his ratings on the blood and suffering of his citizens. Zelensky slaughtered law and stability for the sake of applause and posturing.

The actual role of the Ukrainian president is that of a “fifth columnist” working against the interests of his own nation and Europe’s, considering the price it pays for the Ukraine conflict, Medvedchuk stated.

Zelensky hopes that a military victory would wash away all the things he has done to crush his political opponents and to “lease his nation as a battlefield.”

But Ukraine has “already lost,” and soon this reality will catch up with him, according to Medvedchuk.

The president “acts like a winner, speaks like a winner, poses like a winner. But victory is nowhere near,” he said. Continued conflict is the only thing that delays the reckoning for the president, the politician said.

Medvedchuk led the largest opposition political party in Ukraine before the Zelensky government cracked down on it and its senior figures for supposedly being pro-Russian. He now lives in exile, after being charged with treason at home.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 9, 2023 4:00 pm
Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
February 9, 2023 4:02 pm

Lauren Boebert is no RINO and not one to take censorship lying down. what feisty young woman, genuine unlike the look-a-me dullard shreiker Occasional Cortex

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
February 9, 2023 4:03 pm

this is so good I had to bring it across the page

She was going off tap at Roth 🙂

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
February 9, 2023 4:03 pm

flyingduk says: February 9, 2023 at 8:17 am

and conclude Oswald was NOT the shooter ‘from the grassy knoll’.

You’re getting your theories mixed up. That’s an alternative theory.
The mainstream official theory is the shots from the 4th floor of the Texas book depository.

The problem with all the well-known controversial crimes is that, as time goes on, the chances of any new factual evidence surfacing with chain of custody provably intact approaches zero, plus the early evidence is often suggestive (or fails to disprove) rather than being the unambiguous proof it was made out to be.
Sometimes the only honest answer is to admit “I don’t know”, which is unsatisfying to many, particular if someone has already been punished for the crime.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 9, 2023 4:03 pm

The problem is the Democrats – they’ve always been corrupt and cannot be anything else.

From Glenn Reynolds this morning, re communism:

It allows low-quality people to band together and achieve power and self-importance.

Fits the Democrats perfectly. One big organized crime family.

Top Ender
Top Ender
February 9, 2023 4:07 pm

It is the comeback that nobody expected. A new series of Fawlty Towers. After decades of being told that there would never be, could never be, more of it. Does anybody, beyond John Cleese, Camilla Cleese and their American producers, actually expect it to be any good?

I don’t want to be cynical. Fawlty Towers – or “the first two seasons of Fawlty Towers”, as its new director, Matthew George, refers to the 12 episodes that ran on BBC2 in 1975 and 1979 – is surely the greatest sitcom of all. Basil Fawlty raged at the uncouth, Americans, dim-witted Spanish waiters, his infuriating wife, recalcitrant Austin 1100 Countryman cars and the machinations of a universe seemingly set dead against him. He is one of the greatest comedy creations there has been. Cleese’s performance is much imitated, but has never been bettered, a masterpiece of repressed postwar rage, a masterclass in clowning. Each episode took Cleese and his co-writer, co-star and former wife Connie Booth six weeks to come up with. Labyrinthine, deeply satisfying plots. Exquisite supporting characters (played by actors who are, for the most part, dead or retired). Corking lines. Sublime set pieces.

I could go on. And which Fawlty Towers fan hasn’t, over the past 44 years, wished there could have been more of it? There were almost 80 hours of Friends, most of them at worst serviceable, at best glorious; Basil raged and capered and boobed for six hours in total. We want more!

Or we did. Every dog has its day, every sitcom has its sociopolitical context, every writer-performer (even the greats) has a finite time during which they can instinctively connect with the culture. I would love, love, love to believe that the Cleeses can come up with a way of reinventing Basil in his new boutique-hotel setting, butting heads (we imagine) with his daughter (played by Camilla, 39, who is also a co-writer) and with the censorious sensibilities of society today. In a way that isn’t just Basil raging against nonsenses about race and gender and online booking systems while his daughter goes, “Daadddd! More of this and I tell the warders at Jurassic Park where you’ve escaped to.”

Basil 1.0 was a petit bourgeois man with ideas above his station, his interactions a function of the British class system, his outspokenness a liberation that, more often than not, proved a liability to himself. Cleese knew whereof he spoke. He was connecting with his upbringing, his education, Britain as it was then. His recent pronouncements against cancel culture, though, while certainly not all incorrect, come across as too broad, too removed, too sweeping to engage with society as it is now. And by “engaging” I don’t mean falling in line with it, but I do mean seeing it clearly and in detail. I’m not convinced that is Cleese any more.

In the best moments of his most recent live tour, Why There Is No Hope, Cleese suggested that most of us don’t really know what we are doing, himself included, that we will sacrifice anything in our quest to be seen to be right. A promising idea. He then, however, more or less went on to suggest that he alone was the man to cut through the crap, unlike the goons at the BBC, who doubted Fawlty Towers and Monty Python’s Flying Circus before they went on to conquer the world.

So he will take no notice of what critics, professional or amateur, think he should or shouldn’t do with his creation. And if you listen to his insightful, detailed commentary tracks on the Fawlty Towers DVDs you will indeed find that, given enough time and space with which to view his work, he is his own best critic.

Will Camilla or the producers be able to bring out the best of John Cleese, 83, to challenge as well as enable as part of their collaboration? Do I underestimate one of the great comic geniuses of the 20th century? I do so hope I do. I could do with a laugh. Prove me wrong, please, John. I will sacrifice my need to be right for the sake of the pleasure you might yet bring, but the third season of Fawlty Towers sounds like a terrible idea.

The Times

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
February 9, 2023 4:07 pm

XO is the top age bracket of Cognac

At sea it is the Executive Officer

sfw
sfw
February 9, 2023 4:09 pm

Dot -“Frederickson should have ended up with Lucille and Sharpe should have ended up with Lady Anne Camoynes. Lady Anne was gagging for it.”

Spot on, Cornwell made Sharpe a complete prick when he let him backdoor Frederikson. He knew that Frederikson was very keen on her and then went and shagged her anyway. Other than that the series is great. Recently I binged on the audiobooks, great stuff as well.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 9, 2023 4:10 pm

Bar Beach Swimmer at 3:28

Da Voice must be really going down. Luigi in parliament saying – if it goes down, how will Aborigines feel and how we look internationally

Oh dear. I thought it would be a couple of weeks before we got the “What will the UN say”. Things must be crook.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
February 9, 2023 4:15 pm

Bolt developing some Bols?

In fairness to Bolta, he was almost a lone voice calling out Climate Change – I know a lot of people called it crap, but the MSM could ignore them. Bolta was the target. He was labelled the ‘the last global warming denier in Australia’ (or something like) at some point. Those boorish Chaser turds I think said that. And they were not being original in their ideas. Their only gift has been to condense all the hatred the left has into easily dispensed slogans. An eruption of scarcely articulable hate that would normally involve 2 hrs of shouting at traffic reduced to a intellectually bereft epithet.

Same with the Fauxboriginals gifting each other plum gigs and prizes. He was taken to court on nonsense charges, labelled a Nazi, and his employer left him twisting in the wind.

And in the background, away from what people dared do in light of day, there will have been the sheer evil that they would do in the shadows. You cannot believe anything other than that he received threats against himself and his family.

I don’t agree with him on everything: Pineapple on pizza is and always will be an abomination, and dimpling his tie is a matter sartorial finesse he seems willfully blind to.

I think his greatest problems go back to his time as purely a columnist: he is too prim and staid – he does not have the buoyant energy of Lovely Rita, and having made his name in monologues he is too stiff and unable to establish a relaxed rapport with his interview subjects. Why Sky does not help him with this I do not know.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
February 9, 2023 4:19 pm

At sea it is the Executive Officer

I know which one I would like to curl up in bed with.

Hey! Don’t be disgusting!

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
February 9, 2023 4:22 pm

Oh dear. I thought it would be a couple of weeks before we got the “What will the UN say”. Things must be crook.

I am counting down until we are warned we will be a national pariah! Again!

The days seem so spiritless and jejune at other times.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
February 9, 2023 4:23 pm

What will the UN say

Who cares what that unelected collective of grifters thinks?

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
February 9, 2023 4:27 pm

Luigi knows he’s on a hiding to nowhere and will descend to hectoring insults, he can’t help himself, he’s a nasty, talentless meat bag, those being the redeeming features to which he clings.

Cassie of Sydney
February 9, 2023 4:29 pm

Interesting….

Janet A works at News Corp’s Oz newspaper and has been fantastic in writing stories exposing the stench around the Higgins affair.

Samantha Maiden works at News Corp’s news.com.au, and has been up to her neck in both the Higgins and Porter hit jobs from the beginning. Her involvement, particularly in the Porter story, is very unsavoury.

Maiden has been served defamation papers, but it hasn’t stopped Janet posting stories yesterday or today. I have a little inkling that Janet A doesn’t have much time for Maiden’s questionable journalism.

Cassie of Sydney
February 9, 2023 4:30 pm

“‘Do You Think All Conservatives Are Nazis?’: Ex-Twitter Exec Confronted Over Past Tweets”

I can answer that….they do.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
February 9, 2023 4:33 pm

Gotta love the smell of an airline lounge when multi flights are cancelled.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
February 9, 2023 4:34 pm

I find Hennessey a bit sweet. I love Remy. I’ve had some Calvados that was magnificent, never knew it could be that good. Shame is I no longer remember the name.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
February 9, 2023 4:44 pm

Who cares what that unelected collective of grifters thinks?

Well that is the thing. Nobody does.

That is why they need to pass legislation and set up bodies to try to mimic the effect of something people care about.

People care about their schools and parks, and will front up with their own gear to fix them. They care about land marks and will raise money to pursue a campaign to protect them. They care about justice, and will shower the newspapers and their MPs with letters to try to get them to listen. (Slippery Gnats is an attempt at a holographic simulation of this).

One thing the people are not clamouring for is a ‘re-imagining’ of our democracy with no clear outline of what it might end up doing.

Bar Beach Swimmer
February 9, 2023 4:45 pm

Cassie of Sydney says:
February 9, 2023 at 3:41 pm
BBS, I watched Bragg on Bolt last night. Bolt demolished him. Bragg was left fumbling about. It was embarrassing.

Cassie, when Bolt got going Bragg sat there like a zombie. That moment when he responded that there would have to be culling of all the different groups, like, it would just happen that way, was magnificent. In over his head, was how it looked. I got the feeling that I was watching Aliens.

1) that scene after Ripley had driven them out of danger, only to then signal to their takeoff team to come get them, and the shuttle goes down. Burke saying something like they should make a fire and sing some camping songs and wait for help.

2) Then, when they’ve blocked off the central command area and the aliens get in and Burke deserts them, and he opens the door and there’s an alien on the other side. “Shit” I think he’d have said if he had’ve had time.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 9, 2023 4:51 pm

South Australia introduces bill to legislate Voice to Parliament
Ellen RansleyNCA NewsWire
Thu, 9 February 2023 12:41PM

South Australia is a step closer to becoming the first state or territory to legislate an Indigenous voice to its parliament.

As debate rages around the details of a federal Voice to parliament, SA Attorney-General and Indigenous Australians Minister Kyam Maher introduced the First Nations Voice Bill 2023 on Thursday morning.

The Bill is expected to pass with the support of the Greens, meaning it will likely be legislated by Easter – ahead of the federal Voice to Parliament.

“With the introduction of this Bill, we open the door to a historic change. We can become the first jurisdiction in the nation to legislate for a Voice to Parliament and Government for First Nations people – empowering them to shape decisions, instead of being subject to them,” the attorney general said.

“Historically, South Australia has led the nation in reforms and legislation for First Nations people. It is a proud cross-partisan tradition that we seek to build on today.

“Now, we are poised to lead the nation again. And make no mistake – the nation will be watching very closely ahead of the referendum to be held later this year.”

SA Premier Peter Malinauskas said it was a historic day.

“Too often, decisions have been made for Aboriginal people, and not by Aboriginal people,” he said on Twitter.

“A fully-elected Aboriginal body that will not only be a Voice to our parliament, but a Voice without our parliament can change that.”

Sit back and watch the fun?

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
February 9, 2023 4:54 pm

Da Voice S-tragedy

So far the Voice has been linked to Uluru statement giving it a magical feel that cannot be questioned.
Tennis Albo has then provided no detail but plenty of emotional strings.
As resistance raises its head, Aboriginal trough dwellers go on the attack.
The Nats made a stand whilst the Libs dither.
Alice Springs gave the Voice a sideways shove but the meja moved on quickly.
Next as others have mentioned will be the UN or other sanctimonious globalistas will lecture us.

Im expecting business leaders like Forrest and co to tell business to get behind it.

International Finance groups may even tell us they cannot invest in such a country without da Voice.

I fully expect a Greta style Aboriginal child to break onto the scene having been properly schooled by our Arts Council to yell, cry, demand, sulk and again attempt to shame us into Da Voice.

As the left have no shame they may select the unfortunate death of an Aboriginal to shine the beacon on why we cannot wait for logic or reason and we must make the change yesterday.

We have seen this dance before and it appears to be following a similar rhythm. What steps have I missed?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity
Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity
February 9, 2023 4:56 pm

OldOzzie says: February 9, 2023 at 3:37 pm
How a thrilled Aussie who won a new $100,000 Nissan Patrol in an online charity raffle after spending $120 on tickets was stripped of her dream car – with the 4WD suddenly repossessed: ‘I just froze’
. Amelia Conway, 22, won a Nissan in a charity lottery
. She later found there was money owing on the car
. It was repossessed, she was left $1,000 out of pocket

Crikey.
. Amelia Conway, 22, saw a raffle on Facebook
. She sent $120 to the random Facebook account that was running the raffle
. The prize she won did not match representations
. The person who actually owned title to the purported prize came to her house & collected it.
. The random who gave her the prize may have been conducting an Art Union without a licence.
. The random has gone to ground with no trace
. The j’ismst who wrote the story did not even bother to do a company search to find out who the random may be.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
February 9, 2023 4:56 pm

and Government for First Nations people

interstink
very interestink.

Their own government.
Something Luigi the inconciveable is claiming the in-voice wont be.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 9, 2023 5:07 pm
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 9, 2023 5:17 pm

Old Ozzie – It’s fun how every single thunderstorm is now apocalytical.

Admittedly the Daily Wail is a bit inclined towards hyperbowl, but I’m sure they’re being aided and abetted by BoM.

I wish we could turn gaslighting into actual gas. Given the amount of the stuff going on these days electricity prices would be a LOT cheaper.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
February 9, 2023 5:18 pm

Sydney, get your weather together. Your inhabitants are piling up here in the Brisbane airline lounges.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 9, 2023 5:20 pm

Bruce of Newcastle says:
February 9, 2023 at 5:17 pm

Old Ozzie – It’s fun how every single thunderstorm is now apocalytical.

Admittedly the Daily Wail is a bit inclined towards hyperbowl, but I’m sure they’re being aided and abetted by BoM.

I wish we could turn gaslighting into actual gas. Given the amount of the stuff going on these days electricity prices would be a LOT cheaper.

I was about to fill up my pool from the hose – but won’t bother – we are lucky we seem to be in a area where the major storms through Sydney go above and below us

No Complaints

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 9, 2023 5:29 pm

Cassie of Sydneysays:
February 9, 2023 at 4:30 pm
“‘Do You Think All Conservatives Are Nazis?’: Ex-Twitter Exec Confronted Over Past Tweets”

I can answer that….they do.

Most of them are actual fascists, and given the deep vein of anti-Semitism among leftards, a proportion are genuine Nazis.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 9, 2023 5:35 pm

Re the Voice, spread the word among ethnic groups, particularly East and South Asians. They are unlikely to be happy with being formally put at least one step down the totem pole, and there are very many of them.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 9, 2023 5:36 pm

Prediction: IF we get a Voice referendum this year, Albo will not be PM 12 months from that date.

For more predictions please sign up to the Premium Subscription Service only $9.99 per month via direct debit. Luigi will join that other unemployable oxygen thief SloMo on the back bench as both realise they could not win a byelection for the seat.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 9, 2023 5:41 pm

Prediction: IF we get a Voice referendum this year, Albo will not be PM 12 months from that date.

I’m betting on Tanya Plibersek wielding the big knife.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 9, 2023 5:45 pm

Have gender ambassadorship, will travel.

Thursday, 09 February 2023

– is ‘she’ a zombie? Those eyes speak madness to me.

Another Bureaucracy to soak the taxpayers.

It looks like that during her time in New Guinea the “locals” exercised their well known “head shrinking” practises on HER(?)

And YES Julie- i noticed the masculine features as well, including the Adam’s apple!

– Every public (and, increasingly, private) institution is dedicated to lowering the status, rights and power of straight white men. We are being collectively punished for creating modernity and liberating those very forces now marshalled against us.

– Growing Government, Growing the Burden on Taxpayers, but also increasing the number of Government { Public Paid } employees reliant on the Labour party.
I would be interested to know , of All people employed in Australia, how many are employed in All levels of Government ?

Too many, Pete and a far too high percentage. But us silly people don’t seem to understand that gummint knows what’s best for us and it also knows that the more in the public serpents, the more votes for the socialist gummint; they want to keep their jobs.

– Yep, more money down the drain thanks to Albo.

Wonder which labor politician she is related to?

Looking at her past she has been on that DFAT gravy train in PNG for most of her life..
With the Red Cross and other UN entities..
She is in the club with a Queens Honour award to her name in 2021..
Once you are in the network you can’t leave..love and light xx

https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/7293554/the-magic-and-beauty-of-png-and-its-people/
Stephanie Copus-Campbell grew up in Alaska and fell in love with Papua New Guinea.

Apart from the climate, she finds the two places similar in their problems and delights. Both have isolated communities facing challenges.

For her work over 20 years in PNG, she has been made a Member of the Order of Australia.

“I think it’s humbling,” she said.

“It’s a recognition of many, many people who work in partnership. I share this with many people.”

From Alaska, she went to the University of California and to Cambridge University. She met an Australian and, at the age of 25, came and worked for the Australian Red Cross.

– Good morning xx I noticed the eyes as well never blinked once.. In the era of illusions and AI being exposed, as well as holograms ..

The need for a Gender Ambassador, and a First Nations Foreign Affairs Ambassador it sounds like they are building another shadow government..

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 9, 2023 5:46 pm

Plibbers has got a touch of the Julie Bishops about her I think. I suspect they are very aware of her limitations. I may be wrong.

m0nty
February 9, 2023 6:01 pm

Good to see Alan Tudge resigning in disgrace, should have happened years ago.

MatrixTransform
February 9, 2023 6:05 pm

“I think hate is undervalued. I think it’s like a f***ing weird, white supremacist idea that hate is bad, or something?

well, there’s the turn

I keep saying this is a cultural revolution and that its going the same place all the other cultural revolutions did

what happened to ‘hope, not hate’ … they must have lost their t-shirt.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 9, 2023 6:11 pm

Higgins backs code to change parliament’s toxic culture
Maeve BannisterAAP
Thu, 9 February 2023 2:25PM

Former Liberal Party staffer Brittany Higgins says there has been a turning point in changing the toxic workplace culture in federal parliament.

On Thursday, a code of conduct for parliamentarians and their staff came into force, a recommendation of the landmark Set the Standard report by Sex Discrimination Commissioner Kate Jenkins.

The report was initiated after Ms Higgins went public with allegations she had been sexually assaulted inside a ministerial office by a then-colleague which sparked a national conversation about parliamentary culture.

Ms Jenkins’ 2021 review lifted the lid on misconduct, finding one in three people surveyed in federal parliament reported being sexually harassed on the job.

Ms Higgins thanked the commissioner and Kerri Hartland, chair of the Parliamentary Leadership Taskforce that wrote the codes, for their work.

“This is a huge turning point in changing the toxic workplace culture in our nation’s parliament,” Ms Higgins wrote in a statement.

“It’s incredible how quickly things can be changed when you have the concerted effort of so many people at once.

“Reminder: the standard you walk past is the standard you accept.”

Parliament has so far implemented six of the 28 recommendations from the Set the Standard report.

Four other recommendations have been partly implemented and 17 are in progress.

Ms Jenkins said while there had been positive changes that have improved parliamentary workplaces, the job was not done.

All staff will be required to remain reasonably sober at work functions, ladies will be required to wear knickers…

Lysander
Lysander
February 9, 2023 6:12 pm

It is more worrying about SA passing a Voice Bill than the Feds.

A few years working in Treasury taught me a thing or two about Federal-State relations…

-The Feds are just bean counters. Other than defence, immigration, social services the rest don’t mean anything. Like, science, ag, indigenous affairs.
-The States are the service deliverers who make their “own” money to fund real programs and who are given Fed money to fund theirs.

In WA, McGowan has passed a Voice Bill by fiat. It’s called the Aboriginal Cultural Heritage Act and it comes into commencement on 1 July. You have to get any indigens approval to fart on your own property if there be natives there.

JC
JC
February 9, 2023 6:12 pm

i don’t use caps to start sentences

because im a god oracle

and god oracles like me

who cause regular people

to shit themselves

when they walk in a room
aren’t concerned with such small

details.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
February 9, 2023 6:14 pm

Why is the Cat running 2 hrs slow. Clock says 8.14 comments 6.05

Indolent
Indolent
February 9, 2023 6:14 pm
Indolent
Indolent
February 9, 2023 6:15 pm
Lysander
Lysander
February 9, 2023 6:15 pm

ZKTA, it’s not like Parliament can enforce it. If you break the law you go to court.

If you do something morally questionable, it’s not up to Parliament HR, but the voters to decide at the following election…

Brislurker
Brislurker
February 9, 2023 6:16 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
February 9, 2023 at 12:27 pm
“Tiger!Tiger!Tiger! ” is a good account by the Tactical Operations Officer who read Man Haron Monis his horoscope at the Lint Cafe. As it became obvious that the cafe would have to be stormed, the officers involved were texting wives, girlfriends, trying not to let them know what they were thinking, and asking for recent images of their children……

Thank you very much Zulo. Sounds like that it is not military heavy. I was following the old cat at the time, with so much knowledgeable comments from our cats, and I was hoping it would be worth buying.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 9, 2023 6:17 pm

Everyone thinks revolution is a good idea until they get an ice pick to the head.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
February 9, 2023 6:18 pm

Im fairly sure if a 21 year old got enough surgery to look like the back end of a half plucked chook with pissholes in the snow for eyes and lipstick round its arse topped by a Heidi wig they would get the same response.
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Madonna calls speculation about her appearance ‘ageism and misogyny’
Singer says comments about her appearance at the Grammy awards are signs of ‘a world that refuses to celebrate women past the age of 45’

….

“Once again I am caught in the glare of ageism and misogyny that permeates the world we live in,” she said. “A world that refuses to celebrate women past the age of 45 and feels the need to punish her if she continues to be strong-willed, hard-working and adventurous.

She said she has “never apologised for any of the creative choices I have made nor the way that I look or dress and I’m not going to start.

I have been degraded by the media since the beginning of my career but I understand that this is all a test and I am happy to do the trailblazing so that all the women behind me can have an easier time in the years to come.”

Lysander
Lysander
February 9, 2023 6:22 pm

Fetterman has been rushed to hospital…

JC
JC
February 9, 2023 6:24 pm

Thomas Massie, Republican house member. Massie is really very high quality.

Anyone who has seen the Criminal Hide’s State of the Union will notice that he is a shouty, demented old bastard who screams inappropriately. 

Massie tweeted:

@RepThomasMassie

Tone began as “animatronic father at Disney carousel of progress,” quickly switched to “man shouting at kids to get off his yard.”

cohenite
February 9, 2023 6:25 pm

So when the idiots in SA introduce their Voice, they’ll join victoristan and WA in having Voices.

m0nty
February 9, 2023 6:25 pm

IJC tweet

James O’Keefe, founder and CEO of Project Veritas, has been placed on paid leave by the organization’s board of directors as they consider removing him from leadership position.

Project Veritas without James O’Keefe doesn’t sound like a lot of fun, you guys.

JC
JC
February 9, 2023 6:26 pm

Lysander says:
February 9, 2023 at 6:22 pm

Fetterman has been rushed to hospital…

He looks demonic. If the devil took on human form, he would look eggsactly like Fetterman.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 9, 2023 6:26 pm

Madge is channeling the Bride of Wildenstein look.

JC
JC
February 9, 2023 6:28 pm

Project Veritas without James O’Keefe doesn’t sound like a lot of fun, you guys.

Because it’s inconceivable the founder of Veritas could start a new org, right Fatboy?

Cassie of Sydney
February 9, 2023 6:28 pm

“Good to see Alan Tudge resigning in disgrace, should have happened years ago.”

Except, cockroach, he hasn’t resigned in disgrace. Tudge has resigned, citing one of the reasons is that his children, do you want me to spell that out for you cockroach, HIS CHILDREN, have received death threats. Any condemnation from you, cockroach? My God you’re despicable.

Oh and we’re going to talk about politician’s “infidelities”, let’s look at some Labor party infidilities, beginning with Bill Shorten and Tony Burke, geez, they’re a corker. Oh and whilst we’re on the topic of Bill Shorten, when will he resign? Given the allegation against him, that should have happened years ago.

Indolent
Indolent
February 9, 2023 6:30 pm
Cassie of Sydney
February 9, 2023 6:32 pm

“Prediction: IF we get a Voice referendum this year, Albo will not be PM 12 months from that date.”

I can’t happen, Rudd changed the rules in 2013 after he decapitated Gillard. It would only happen if Albanese was to resign and I cannot see that happening.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 9, 2023 6:32 pm

All staff will be required to remain reasonably sober at work functions, ladies will be required to wear knickers.

Fun that lefty Canberra seemingly wants to become Presbyterian.
Where’s Calli? We need her three stern ladies to chastise staffers.

Indolent
Indolent
February 9, 2023 6:33 pm
Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity
Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity
February 9, 2023 6:34 pm

Oh and we’re going to talk about politician’s “infidelities”, let’s look at some Labor party infidilities,

Once I had a go at making a diagram of who in the ALP have rooted each other.
It became quite complex & began to resemble one of those artworks where nails are driven into a board then linked to each other by string.

IIRC someone a few years ago wrote a piece in the MSM mentioning all ALP to ABC public sexual hookups that were going on at the time.
The graph will only have become more complex.

Miltonf
Miltonf
February 9, 2023 6:35 pm

My God you’re despicable.
certainly demonstrates the spite and exhaustion that is the modern left. When I was a student my HPS tutor warned about the military-industrial complex- now the left are like neo-cons (as long as they don’t have to do any fighting of course).

cohenite
February 9, 2023 6:35 pm

I really believe biden is the scummiest politician ever; Jesse Watters analyses the old bastard’s SOTU BS and finds large slabs of it is directly stolen from Trump and other MAGA GOP members.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 9, 2023 6:37 pm

If I was a Liar Minister I’d plan on taking my European study tour this winter just in case.

Miltonf
Miltonf
February 9, 2023 6:41 pm

I really believe biden is the scummiest politician ever

yep a low rent pay-to-play crook. Show biz for ugly people personified. Shit bird states like Delaware and Massachusetts have a lot to answer for.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 9, 2023 6:41 pm

It can’t happen, Rudd changed the rules in 2013 after he decapitated Gillard. It would only happen if Albanese was to resign and I cannot see that happening.

I take it you won’t be taking up a Premium Subscription then?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 9, 2023 6:44 pm

Madonna calls speculation about her appearance ‘ageism and misogyny’

Haha. The stories Express has had from Madonna this last year had been lurid and often quite rude. That’s because of her not the Express. She’s not aging well in her mind. Not unlike Britney Spears who lately has been showing why she got financially administered by the courts. Both ladies are a few kangaroos short of a mob.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
February 9, 2023 6:46 pm

Oh FFS, Dan Andrews is calling Turkey Turkiye, when he can’t pronounce it or say it, or spell it.

If you insist on using their spelling and pronunciation, you have to get it right, which means learning fluent Turkish. Otherwise you sound stupid. Chinese don’t laugh at us for speaking English, but they do laugh at Kevin Rudd for publicly boasting his mastery of Chinese.

He came across looking like to complete tool he is. And now we can add Dan Andrews to that list.

Robert Sewell
February 9, 2023 6:49 pm

Beery:

The latest Joe Rogan episode with Jordan Peterson is an absolute corker.

Can’t watch it without a spotify account, or without downloading the app.
Pass.

m0nty
February 9, 2023 6:50 pm

Tudge’s disgrace is not what you think it is Cranky. His handling of Robodebt was shameful and led to multiple deaths. A horrid man who should be in gaol, really.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
February 9, 2023 6:50 pm

Both ladies are a few kangaroos short of a mob.

The difference being I’d root Britney.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
February 9, 2023 6:53 pm

Can’t watch it without a spotify account, or without downloading the app.
Pass.

Robert, I don’t pay. And still less ads than radio. But I respect your stance. I’ll try and get a transcript or link to clips.

cohenite
February 9, 2023 6:56 pm

His handling of Robodebt was shameful and led to multiple deaths. A horrid man who should be in gaol, really.

Robodebt was a liar production except for the final algorithm. Tell us about the multiple deaths dickless. And how’s the wife and the milko’s kiddies.

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