Open Thread – Weekend 22 April 2023


Fireworks in the Park, Konstantin Somov, 1907

1,439 responses to “Open Thread – Weekend 22 April 2023”

  1. Miltonf Avatar
    Miltonf

    I saw that too indolent- Bush trash again proving that the US has been governed by the same clique since Reagan left. Apart from the 2017-2020 interlude of course.

  2. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare Avatar
    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    A member since 2007, Helen Lewers suddenly discovers the Greens weren’t about the environment after all.

    Slow learner.

    Nevertheless, it’s an encouraging sign. If she gets out more she may also start to discover that some of the other green shibboleths aren’t quite so rosy either. She might even read Dorothea Mackellar and find out that floods and fires and droughts have always been ferocious in Australia.

    I think she is the sort of learner who might discover this when she spends a week without electricity.

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  3. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    It was an engineer who suggested most homes will be prefabricated in the future requiring far less human input. He was obviously “wanking”

    was it xe/xir that told you about the robots, JC?

    dunno everybody else, but if found myself talking Catallaxy’s Chief Economist about robots and the building industry, I’d deffo refrain from tipping him full of shit out of respect for his high office

    unless I couldn’t help myself

  4. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    Tell us why you believe construction can’t be more automated than it is now.

    and look at you … you sound almost like you don’t like playing rhetorical games

  5. shatterzzz Avatar
    shatterzzz

    Sunday morning coming down! ..
    nothing guaranteed to shake away the joys of awakening than an early morning shop! ……
    Coles “homebrand” toast loaf (700g) Friday .. $2.20 …. this morning $2.70 .. 3 months ago $1.50 …….

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  6. calli Avatar
    calli

    I enjoyed the Builders’ “If”.

    My son got a framed version of the poem when he turned 21 (amongst many…many far more desirable things). I’m toying with the idea of modifying your version for his sector of the building industry for s and g’s.

  7. Tom Avatar
    Tom

    So, as JC says, the brewer that makes Bud Light has effectively sacked the frightbat it hired to do a brand makeover, who ended up almost destroying Bud Light.

    It’s just that woke managements are totally dishonest about the Machiavellian game-playing going on in the backroom:

    The senior Budweiser advertising executive behind the controversial Bud Light transgender campaign has reportedly taken a leave of absence and another executive has taken over her functions.

    Alissa Heinerscheid, who has been vice president of marketing for Bud Light for nearly a year, has taken a leave of absence, according to Beer Business Daily.

    Heinerscheid, who oversaw Bud Light’s controversial partnership with transgender activist Dylan Mulvaney, is being replaced by Budweiser vice president of global marketing Todd Allen, according to AdAge.

    RTWT

  8. JC Avatar
    JC

    Trans
    Still waiting to explain to us why construction can’t become more automated.

    You can’t because you’re a buffoon with no redeeming qualities.

  9. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    The senior Budweiser advertising executive behind the controversial Bud Light transgender campaign has reportedly taken a leave of absence

    Alissa Heinerscheid will be in stunned disbelief that the entire country does not share her opinion on something, despite having run her stupid, stupid idea past three of her similarly insulated mates by way of market research.

  10. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    Budweiser vice president of global marketing Todd Allen

    Has a lot on his plate right now.

    That said, and given the existing low bar he’s guaranteed to be comparatively successful no matter what he does.

  11. Black Ball Avatar
    Black Ball

    Barry Humphries brown bread

  12. Black Ball Avatar
    Black Ball

    despite having run her stupid, stupid idea past three of her similarly insulated mates by way of market research.

    Mmmyes were they ponytailed men Dragger? I will see myself out

  13. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Bruce of Ncl

    BJ – If the Japanese had a citadel in Darwin it would change the dynamics of the whole Solomons campaign. We would not’ve reinforced PNG because we’d be obsessed with the Japanese on Australian soil. So Port Moresby would fall pretty easily – no CMF guys on the Owen Stanleys to stop the overland attack, even if the Battle of the Coral Sea took place.

    But if the Japanese were in Darwin, with supply line from Timor and Ambon the political pressure on the USN to attempt a penetration into the Arafura Sea would be quite big. Who knows what would happen then? It’s pretty decent to fight a carrier battle in the Coral Sea and south of the Solomons, but another thing entirely to try it in the restricted sea room of the Torres Strait and points west.

    No. With the Japanese focussed on Darwin, Moresby becomes a dead end, as the USN starts the MacArthur/SW Pacific Area march along the northern coast of PNG two years earlier, takes Morotai and Biak, and isolates the Japanese garrison in Darwin, while meeting the Japanese carriers north of the Celebes.

  14. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “Alissa Heinerscheid “

    She’s the fall girl. She did nothing without senior management’s knowledge and approval. The woke virus permeates through ALL large corporations and organisations, most particularly through HR, advertising and marketing departments.

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  15. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    ponytailed men Dragger?

    Men?

    How dare you.

  16. OldOzzie Avatar
    OldOzzie

    Boambee John says:
    April 22, 2023 at 5:46 pm

    JC

    It’s been a looooong time since home builders assembled frames on site from raw timber.

    1985 in my case – 5 years when my youngest daughter was born from 1981-1986 working weekends and nights to do 2 storey full brick extension to rear of existing 3 bedroom, triple fronted brick house

    excavated, found roman style brick chamber septic tank . what looked like a coffin on top of ground, turned into multpile chambers the further the excavation went – coupled with flimsy 1 room brick veneer extension tacked on old house had no foundations, with enginner went with floating on ground slab tied back into right side sandstone with a lot of reo and had to double depth before no foundation coming up with reinforced concrete block wall under dodgy extension – Bondek external form and 30 Mpa concrete for bottom slab – Bondek for 1st floor slab and 30 Mpa again

    Subbed Hip & Gabling into existing roof to 2 old carpenters (a lot of timber carried down the drive from front street, along with loads of bricks, Big RSJ supporting 1st floor slab and roof tiles)

    The Hip & Gabling by the Old Carpenters is real timber, not the match sticks of today and a work of art

  17. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Wow, the climate crazies are getting even crazier.

    ANU Climate Scientists Wargame UN Martial Law and A Global Military Coup (22 Apr)

    Bodies lay rotting in the streets. People are getting sick.

    Amid the social uproar and suffering, the UN Security Council declares a planetary emergency.

    “The criminal groups moved in and became the security providers of choice,” Dr Boulton says of the war game’s outcome.

    Seeing that nothing much is happening in the real world climatewise this hyperbolic stuff is quite amazing. If they’re this off the planet bonkers the ANU would seem to be an excellent place to not study at.

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  18. Black Ball Avatar
    Black Ball

    Latest Voice noos, James Campbell Hun:

    The ‘Yes’ campaign has launched an online store where supporters can donate and buy merchandise to support the Indigenous Voice to Parliament.

    The online donation portal will go live on Sunday after the Yes23 campaign cleared the last hurdle to accept tax-deductible donations.

    In October the Albanese government granted Australians for Indigenous Constitutional Recognition deductible gift recipient (DGR) status in the mini-budget, which means donations of more than $2 can be written off against tax.

    However it took until March for the government to extend DGR status to any campaign vehicle for the No case.

    But even though the Yes case had a five-month head start, it has been unable to capitalise on it because it also needed to clear regulatory hurdles in each of the states and territories before it could accept donations. The last state to tick off was Queensland earlier this month.

    The push to raise money comes as the Yes campaign prepares to ramp up its on-the-ground campaigning.

    In the past two months it has registered or briefed more than 5000 volunteers.

    Last week, more than 500 volunteers attended training sessions in Sydney, Newcastle, Coffs Harbour and Nowra on how to push the Voice with the public.

    There have also been sessions in Victoria run by the Victorian Women’s Trust.

    At these events volunteers have been given instruction on how to run “kitchen table conversations” about the Voice with up to ten invitees in private homes.

    This is a campaign technique pioneered by former Victorian independent MP Cathy McGowan in her successful 2013 bid for the federal seat of Indi.

    Dean Parkin, campaign director for the Yes Campaign Alliance, said the campaign was moving to engage more with the general public.

    “People want this conversation out of the Canberra bubble and in their communities, which is where it belongs,” he said.

    “Through our volunteer network we are supporting the conversation where it should be, in the hands of the Australian people, on the ground at community events, and around barbecues.

    “The donation portal makes our campaign a nationwide effort to welcome every single Australian into the conversation on constitutional recognition.

    “Any contribution, big or small, will support our decades-long drive to have Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people recognised in our constitution.”

    The Yes23 online store will also offer T-shirts, stickers, corflutes, tote bags and badges with Yes branding.

    Mr Parkin said the campaign had been “inundated” with requests from people wanting to show their support.

    “With the launch of our merch so you’ll see a lot more Yes on the streets in the weeks and months ahead,” he said.

    Yes 23 is the umbrella organisation for groups campaigning for the Voice.

  19. johanna Avatar
    johanna

    calli, re the dying off of lilies – I suspect it depends where you live. We get hard frosts here and the foliage does die off completely in autumn/winter. Not hard to realise that that might not be the case in your area.

    So, for the benefit of our correspondent, the answer is probably – it’s safe to dig them up anytime after the cold weather sets in, whatever that means where you live.

    Speaking of which – the trees are turning around here, gorgeous spectacles everywhere. In Canberra, the view from the top of the Telstra Tower is magnificent – a must for visitors, and also locals who have not seen it before. It really is absolutely spectacular.

  20. bons Avatar
    bons

    It wasn’t until watching (briefly, before the red button was clicked) an episode of ‘Rogue Heroes’ that I discovered that GHQ Middle East employed black female 2LT staff officers during WWII.
    It is always such a joy when revelations explode into your life.

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  21. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    why construction can’t become more automated

    MT: Hey Siri, navigate me to Spencer St, Melbourne
    Siri: getting directions to Spenser Ct, Mentone
    MT: Hey Siri, have you got a hearing problem? I said M-e-l-b-o-u-r-n-e
    Siri: I dont know what you want me to do
    MT:Forget it
    Siri: Fine!

    look JC,
    yesterday you said it was gonna be robots all the way down
    and today it’s why can’t it be ‘more’ automated

    it’s your own (maybe) idiotic proposition … you defend it

    make a case for the ‘pro’
    and I’ll keep taking the piss outta you
    deal?

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  22. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    No. With the Japanese focussed on Darwin, Moresby becomes a dead end

    Yep. This topic has been raised and rejected a few times. It would have been wasteful and inconsequential to take it, logistically terrible to maintain it and very difficult to hold it.

    It was one thing for Curtin to stand up to Churchill when he wanted Australian troops to reinforce the arse end of Empire on the other side of the world from Blighty.

    It would be quite another for Curtin to demand that FDR and Macarthur spend everything they had retaking a joint 3000 km from Brisbane and separated by 50 degree desert, instead of focussing on the far more important island chains off the north eastern seaboard.

    The ‘political pressure’ wouldn’t have amounted to jack shit.

  23. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    This is a campaign technique pioneered by former Victorian independent MP Cathy McGowan in her successful 2013 bid for the federal seat of Indi.

    Ah yes, Indi. Plenty of unorthodox electoral techniques tried there from what I recall.

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  24. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    It would be quite another for Curtin to demand that FDR and Macarthur spend everything they had retaking a joint 3000 km from Brisbane and separated by 50 degree desert

    MacArthur’s orders are contained in the Official History of the United States Army in World War Two. His mission was the drive North – he was NOT to devote any resources to recapturing occupied Australian territory.

  25. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    I’m toying with the idea of modifying your version for his sector of the building industry for s and g’s

    go for it
    I did have fun with that

    this bit, was pretty much how my week went.

    If you can understand a Gantt chart and not make schemes your master;
    If you can think—and not make thoughts your aim;
    If you can meet with the builders and corporate investors
    And treat those two impostors just the same;
    If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken
    Twisted by consulting engineers to make a trap for fools,

  26. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    BJ – You still have it exactly backwards. The Japanese would not be “focusing on Darwin”, quite the opposite. Anyone understanding Australian political consciousness would know the result of putting a force into the then relatively poorly defended Darwin would be to have the Allies “focusing on Darwin” to the detriment of elsewhere.

    Yamamoto’s strategy was to establish an outer ring of defensive strong points as far east and south east as they could support. Darwin would be an excellent one of those with political value far in excess of its actual military value. Highly defensible due to remoteness and Jap control of the air, relatively easy to supply, yet would draw Australian forces like a magnet.

    Then once the Allies gained the necessary strength to threaten the place the garrisoning Jap division would just sail away back to Timor.

    You would have no 18th Brigade in Milne Bay, no 39th Bn in Kokoda, they’d be slogging up the dusty roads towards Darwin. 9th Division and the half of 6th Div that Curtin was persuaded to leave in Ceylon would also be forced back to Australia due to intense squawking from Labor. The results would be nearly as disruptive of Allied plans as Singapore was.

  27. JC Avatar
    JC

    look JC,
    yesterday you said it was gonna be robots all the way down
    and today it’s why can’t it be ‘more’ automated

    It’s the same thing, you stupid buffoon.

  28. bons Avatar
    bons

    Discussion of the USN torpedo scandal above brings to mind Australia’s equally egregious example of bureaucratic offensive arse covering costing the lives of our wonderful young people.
    That the Commonwealth Aircraft Corporation’s Beaufort attack bomber was a death trap was demonstrated over and over again.
    It wasn’t until senior RAAF officers threatened mutiny that anyone took notice. And the notice taken was the head of CAC convincing the very human but incompetent PM Curtin that very stern disciplinary action (treason was his demand) should be taken against RAAF officers who spoke out against the travesty.
    It took the death of RAAF hero Charles Learmonth for the aircraft to be finally grounded and rectification enacted.
    GAF Nomad anyone?
    And, now these Government clowns think that they are going to produce missiles. At least they won’t have crews, but stand well clear when they light the blue touch paper.

  29. Miltonf Avatar
    Miltonf

    UNSW Canberra alumna Dr Elizabeth Boulton has always enjoyed a challenge and continues to confront the security issues of today.

    Graduating with an Honours degree in Literature in 1994, and a Master of Business Management in 2001, Dr Boulton relished both the physical and intellectual challenges of her time at UNSW Canberra.

    The ‘Dr’ schtick hasn’t impressed me for decades. Most Unis, all I reckon, are, like the ABC, beyond reform. As for the ANU, another institution infested with marxists but, even worse, it’s based in Canbra and nothing good comes out of canbra.

  30. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    As for the ANU, another institution infested with marxists but, even worse, it’s based in Canbra and nothing good comes out of canbra.

    Biggles and the Human Skeleton . Sttttttrriiiiike three, your out!

  31. calli Avatar
    calli

    Lol. I once had a private client present me with a Gant chart. Hard to know how to respond. With commercial work you expect it, particularly qangos and departments. Box ticking and they wouldn’t know if their backsides were on fire.

    Looking back at the mad rush before the Oi-lympics and some of the shoddy work done in preparation…my stuff is still there and doing nicely.

    On site-cut frames…usually done if it’s a reno/extension, and the roof likewise depending on the design. The Beloved’s cousin had the entire frame cut on site for that reason – they demolished the house, left one wall standing and got a basically new project through on a CDC. Council Not Happy.

  32. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Still in that time of year when it is tricky to get your nightly bedding arrangements just right. Just realised most of mine left with me from Fiona Stanley Hospital. Those hospital cotton blankets are great for the shoulder seasons.

  33. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    The ‘political pressure’ wouldn’t have amounted to jack shit.

    KD – Curtin would order all Australian forces back to Australia if MacArthur and Churchill did not provide sufficient support. Than includes RAAF and RAN as well as the divisions. He went fairly close to that a few times, although that was more in context of arm twisting. Having Japanese on the Australian continent though would cause apocalyptic domestic pressure on Canberra to “do something”. Curtin would be forced by public and media pressure with danger of the government falling.

    Recall that the only reason Curtin allowed the 9th Div to remain in Egypt was that Roosevelt agreed to provide a US infantry division for the Australian east coast. That sort of horse trading was quite intense at the time. Churchill was likewise under very significant pressure for RN ships to be sent to Perth, which was a promise he’d made to Curtin if Singapore fell. The Poms managed to fob him off and no significant RN force ever got to Perth (nor was it needed), but that would be a very different political equation if the Japs had actually landed in Darwin.

  34. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    Council Not Happy

    they’re never happy

    I front-ran them once in the way-back

    knowing that a Heritage Overlay was coming I made damned sure the chimney adjoining the kitchen and lounge ‘disappeared’ before submitting a for a permit.

    as far as I know, council is still trying to find that chimney

  35. Miltonf Avatar
    Miltonf

    Too right Bear.

  36. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    With commercial work you expect it, particularly qangos and departments.

    5 storey apartment going up on an old Perth City Council site opposite me. About a dozen guys roll up each day unless it is a big concrete pour swarming with subbies. You can practically tell what everybody will be doing for the day weeks in advance.

  37. Miltonf Avatar
    Miltonf

    These people live on another planet- planet I despise regular working people who do real jobs
    “I am here, in good will, to challenge thinking and pioneer new thought.”

    UNSW Canberra alumna Dr Elizabeth Boulton has always enjoyed a challenge and continues to confront the security issues of today.

    Graduating with an Honours degree in Literature in 1994, and a Master of Business Management in 2001, Dr Boulton relished both the physical and intellectual challenges of her time at UNSW Canberra.

    “It was a privilege to receive military training, I have found it so applicable to other work environments and problems. The older I get, the more I see how much wisdom is in some of those fundamental teachings, such as the principles of leadership,” she said.

    Having completed her PhD at the Australian National University on the topic ‘Climate and Environmental Change: Time to reframe threat?’, and disillusioned with past approaches to security strategies, Dr Boulton is now leading the way with a plan to fight the primary threat to our planet, referred to as the ‘hyperthreat’.

    “I can’t believe we face the destruction of planetary life and yet there is no effective plan in place,” Dr Boulton said.

    Shocked that there was no security plan addressing the growing threat of climate and environmental change, Dr Boulton published An Introduction to Plan E, in partnership with the US Marine Corps University.

    “Plan E is a climate-eco centred security strategy where ‘E’ stands for Earth, Emergency, Everyone, Everything and Everywhere.

    “It is Phase one – the planning and preparatory period – of a longer six-phase mission, which will unfold over 80 years. It is a concept of operations, a grand strategy for how humanity can contain the hyperthreat of climate and environmental change,” Dr Boulton said.

    “What’s unique about Plan E is that it positions climate and environmental change – the hyperthreat – as the main threat, not a threat multiplier.”

    Dr Boulton believes the current threat posture is incoherent and that the security sector needs to think deeply about fundamental justification when approaching critical threat to the Earth.

    “What will we – the security sector – do as the hyperthreat vanguard arrives, and starts its preliminary attacks? Simply adopt a passive, reactive stance and help clean up the mess? Or will the security pivot and help humanity fight the most complex threat it has even known?” Dr Boulton questioned.

    “It is an uncomfortable intellectual journey to embark upon, but I think we owe it to the public to explore all options.”

    Dr Boulton will join the Conflict and Society Research Group in an upcoming seminar to delve further into the insights and ideas within Plan E.

  38. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Interesting to see how things change. Now no sign of precast tilt up that caused Kennett such consternation. All cast in situ with reusable cells for floor slabs and walls. A maze of reo around the lift wells.

  39. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    It’s the same thing, you stupid buffoon.

    oh … a bit like Momentum and Kinetic Energy ?

  40. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    KD

    The ‘political pressure’ wouldn’t have amounted to jack shit.

    Curtin was besotted with MacArthur, who would, with fine rhetoric, have convinced him that he had the Japanese trapped in Darwin, from where they could not go anywhere significant.

    With Rabaul then at the extreme end of the Japanese advance, and the need to support the two Japanese divisions in Darwin (probably from Surabaya, not Timor or Ambon, which lacked major port facilities), the leapfrog along the north coast of PNG would have advanced rapidly.

    And the US submarines based in Perth and Exmouth would have had fine pickings between Surabaya and Darwin. War ends mid-1944, the resources released enable the war in Europe to end in late 1944, with the Russians still well to the east.

    All fantasy of course, but each change in Japanese strategy would lead to further ripples outwards, with unpredictable results, that might be, in the words of Hirohito in August 1945, “Not necessarily in Japan’s favour”.

  41. Zatara Avatar
    Zatara

    The Japanese would never have made it to Darwin for the same reason they never made it to Port Moresby by sea.

    They lost the necessary air cover for either when Shoho was sunk, Shokaku put out of action, and Zuikaku had her air group heavily attrited.

  42. bons Avatar
    bons

    Matrix. If only I had had that thought.
    I sold out rather than attempt to cope with the Council Bolsheviks.
    I should have got one of Rivkin s ‘associates’ to drop a match while holding a can of ‘accellerant’ in the best Eastern Suburbs council defeating tradition.

  43. Wally Dalí Avatar
    Wally Dalí

    …what date for the Voice ref?

  44. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Global warming causes North Africans to riot in Germany…

    Loony Science: German Mainstream Media Blame Riots At Public Pools On Climate Change (22 Apr)

    The massive riots in Berlin’s open-air swimming pools last summer also have to do with climate change, according to a WDR report. The brawls were also ‘an effect of the hot summer’. The article asks whether ‘we have to prepare for more aggression in connection with climate change and rising temperatures.’”

    In the case of the riots in Düsseldorf, there was talk of perpetrators with a ‘North African migration background’.

    I have this weird recollection that North Africa might be somewhat hotter that Germany ever is at its anemic hottest. So this is a bit of a stretch even for the climate crazies. But if the ANU says there will be bodies rotting in the streets then a few riots at swimming pools would seem relatively sane by comparison I suppose.

  45. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Graduating with an Honours degree in Literature in 1994, and a Master of Business Management in 2001, Dr Boulton relished both the physical and intellectual challenges of her time at UNSW Canberra.

    The greatest physical challenge of academia is lifting the coffee cup at morning tea. The greatest mental challenge is working with other academics.
    DISCLOSURE: I did work experience at UWA soil science area. It was very valuable. I left uni at the earliest possible opportunity.

  46. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Good morning, Trans-Vector.

  47. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    Council Bolsheviks

    the funniest part was that I used the bricks to pave from the front gate to the back patio

    the Council’s chief planning nomenklatura was asking me about the chimney while he was standing on it

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  48. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    i larfed me tits off
    not literally
    obviously

  49. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Bruce of Newcastlesays:
    April 23, 2023 at 9:12 am
    BJ – You still have it exactly backwards. The Japanese would not be “focusing on Darwin”, quite the opposite. Anyone understanding Australian political consciousness would know the result of putting a force into the then relatively poorly defended Darwin would be to have the Allies “focusing on Darwin” to the detriment of elsewhere.

    Putting a significant proportion of the force used to capture the whole of south-east Asia into Darwin, with the logistics demands to supply the force, would have required a degree of focus.

    A single independent company in Timor tied up much of a Japanese division through most of 1942, with minimal support from Darwin. That would have continued, while the North Australia Observer Unit could have done much the same to the Darwin garrison. Chasing ground generally ends badly, with over-extension.

    And the most distant parts of the proposed Japanese defensive perimeter, Guadalcanal, New Hebrides and New Caledonia, would never have been threatened.

  50. Miltonf Avatar
    Miltonf

    One thing that made me realize many years ago what a despicable, degenerate place canbra is was that AIDEX protests in Canbra. One of the protestors was on a ‘scholarship’ from the Dept of Defense.-Back when the left disdn’t like the military-industrial complex

  51. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    … what date for the Voice ref?

    As late as Albo thinks he can get away with. I think he is starting to appreciate why Keating, Howard and Gillard, all of whom didn’t lack political nous, kicked this stuff down the road.

  52. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    Dr Boulton will join the Conflict and Society Research Group in an upcoming seminar to delve further into the insights and ideas within Plan E.

    You first, Dr Boulton.

    Here’s a candle.

  53. Mother Lode Avatar
    Mother Lode

    Nevertheless, it’s an encouraging sign. If she gets out more she may also start to discover that some of the other green shibboleths aren’t quite so rosy either.

    It could split the socialists and environmentalists, with both losing cred – the Greens would be left a radical socialist party, and wherever the greenies go they will no longer support the radical socialist causes.

    All greenies have a socialist bent, but real greenies are misanthropes who dream of an anarchistic idyllic condition with no governments, nations, police etc. The Greens want a massive state that displaces all individual initiative and all choices that they have not already made.

    In fact, they will spend a lot of time publicly denouncing and calling each other out. There was only one interesting thing about the different socialist groups at uni: the hostility, jealousy, and animated vituperation they direct to each other.

  54. The Beer whisperer Avatar
    The Beer whisperer

    as far as I know, council is still trying to find that chimney

    Play them for the fools they are.

  55. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Bruce, PS:

    yet would draw Australian forces like a magnet.

    Not really, by the time that any significant Australian force could have been supported in an advance on Darwin from the south, the magnet would have been isolated by US submarines operating from Perth and Exmouth, which would no longer have had to traverse the Indonesian archipelago to find their targets. Happy time!

  56. johanna Avatar
    johanna

    Those hospital cotton blankets are great for the shoulder seasons.

    They are good for all seasons, IMHO.

    They are really daggy looking, but I bought one anyway after my only adult stint in hospital. I don’t know what temperature range they encompass, but it is wider than any other bedcover I’ve ever had. Over a sheet in summer, as comfortable as is possible when there’s not a heatwave. Adds a lot of value in winter as well. But as you say, best of all when the temperature changes a lot during the night.

    A bit of styling and a marketing campaign might work wonders.

    I know that doonas are all the go these days, but I don’t like them much. In particular, if you get too hot it’s all or nothing – you can’t just peel off a layer.

    When I was a student living in a very cold group house in Canberra, I had a couple of grey Army blankets obtained who knows where. They were not very thick, but they were very dense and did a great job in winter.

    One of the best things about living in a cool climate is the simple joy of a warm bed when the ambient temperature is a bit chilly. 🙂

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  57. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    Curtin was besotted with MacArthur, who would, with fine rhetoric, have convinced him that he had the Japanese trapped in Darwin, from where they could not go anywhere significant.

    Exactly.

    Darwin today is separated from the rest of the country by the tyranny of distance, associated geography and climate. 80 years ago – orders of magnitude.

  58. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    bons – a box of matches is more useful than a room full of lawyers if you are seeking redevelopment approval.

  59. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    hi sancho … are you playing Laurel or Hardy today?

  60. Miltonf Avatar
    Miltonf

    A proclaimed peace protest became a wild confrontation outside the AIDEX ’91 arms exhibition yesterday when 200 protesters were arrested, a woman run over and truck windscreens broken.

    Police and protesters clash outside the entrance to the AIDEX arms shows.
    Police and protesters clash outside the entrance to the AIDEX arms shows. CREDIT:PETER MORRIS

    As Federal Police held a thin blue line, protesters shouted and waved placards before being carried off a picket line and placed in waiting buses and paddy wagons.

    Independent Senator Jo Vallentine and representatives of the green and peace lobbies were arrested, as were a doctor, many professionals, a woman said to have been a nun, a couple of punks and even a former Playboy Playmate of the Year.

    The protest over AIDEX (the Australian International Defence Equipment Exhibition) is expected to reach a peak this morning when police will try to allow it to open by clearing remaining protesters from entrances.

    The main clash yesterday occurred at one entrance, where a veteran of the Chaelundi forest campaign had set up poles in tripod formation above about 170 protesters huddling arm in arm in front of the gate.

    David Friend and Tim Hughes of British Aerospace at their stall at the show.
    David Friend and Tim Hughes of British Aerospace at their stall at the show.CREDIT:PETER MORRIS

    Until yesterday, the police had been far outnumbered. They were joined by the Tactical Response Group and plain clothed officers, swelling numbers to 150.

    About 1.30 pm, the order was given to remove the protesters. Many went quietly, but a few struggled violently as they were dragged away. The last to go was the man perched on the tripod. In a desperate act of defiance as the police pulled him down, he attached himself to a pole with a bicycle lock around his neck and threw the key away. The lock was removed with a service angle grinder, and he too was carted off.

    There were more arrests later when police dismantled three interlocking tripods, each with a protester on top, at the public entrance. Others were removed at a third entrance, after they blockaded it with an overturned car, burning tyres and 44-gallon drums.

    Another shot of the fighting on November 25, 1991.
    Another shot of the fighting on November 25, 1991.CREDIT:PETER MORRIS

    Police were wearing rubber gloves, ostensibly to protect against the transmission of the AIDS virus. They were of no use to one policewoman, who was bitten on the buttocks in Sunday night’s melee and is to be tested for the virus. She also had two ribs broken.

    Those arrested were charged with breaching the peace at special sittings of the ACT Magistrate’s Court last night. All were allowed to go free, but harsher penalties are likely if they are arrested again at AIDEX.

    Seconds before she was arrested, Senator Vallentine defended the protest. “This is evil, and we have made a peaceful protest against it,” she said.

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    A protest co-ordinator, Mr Jacob Grech, who was also arrested, said the arms sold at the exhibition would be used for massacres similar to those in Dili.

    However, an AIDEX spokesman said last night there would be no Indonesian exhibits or delegates at the exhibition. He said about 90 per cent of the exhibits were not rockets, missiles or military vehicles, but computer technology.The Sydney Morning Vomit from 1991- the peace protestors weren’t very peaceful.

  61. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    a box of matches is more useful than a room full of lawyers

    for creating ambiance, tea-candles are much underrated

  62. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Bruce of Newcastlesays:
    April 23, 2023 at 9:27 am
    The ‘political pressure’ wouldn’t have amounted to jack shit.

    KD – Curtin would order all Australian forces back to Australia if MacArthur and Churchill did not provide sufficient support. Than includes RAAF and RAN as well as the divisions.

    Hope they were good swimmers. The British and Americans effectively controlled sea transport.

    This whole saga is a mildly amusing fantasy, but Yamamoto was looking east not south. It never happened, and was never going to happen.

  63. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    The Japanese would never have made it to Darwin for the same reason they never made it to Port Moresby by sea.

    Zatara – the sea room around Darwin is a very different fish to fry than the Coral Sea. The USN would be unlikely to risk passage of the narrow Torres Strait bottleneck in the face of land-based Japanese aircraft.

    The advantage of Darwin is that the terrain is good for airbasing, and the Japs could return a damaged airstrip to service a lot more easily than we could put them out of action at that time. So there would be significant air assets in Darwin as well as Timor – and we know from Top Ender’s fine histories the effect of the Timor-based air forces. I doubt the USN carriers would be tasked with missions that far west, especially with the Japanese carriers in Guam or Yap. And of course the British had nothing substantial nearby, especially after the raid on Ceylon.

  64. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    There have also been sessions in Victoria run by the Victorian Women’s Trust.

    At these events volunteers have been given instruction on how to run “kitchen table conversations” about the Voice with up to ten invitees in private homes.

    In other words, they’re going door to door compiling a list of Voting Intentions and it’s being funded by the Commonwealth.

  65. sfw Avatar

    Wife tells me that as of Monday masks no longer required in Qld nursing homes. She’s delighted, everyone knows that they are useless, they have them off whenever they’re speaking with residents as the poor old souls can’t understand what people say when muffled. Just wondering what the rules are in the rest of Australia, I bet Vic will be the last to remove the mandates.

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  66. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    I know that doonas are all the go these days, but I don’t like them much. In particular, if you get too hot it’s all or nothing – you can’t just peel off a layer.

    If you get them just right they are magical- so light and warm. My 50% feather one got chucked (not by me) due to …. ahem … “advanced discolouration”. A cheap and nasty synthetic one is heading for the tip this winter now I’m back home.

  67. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    Sancho has been busy editing The Woke Times.

  68. The Beer whisperer Avatar
    The Beer whisperer

    It is Phase one – the planning and preparatory period – of a longer six-phase mission, which will unfold over 80 years.

    This is so hilarious in a face-palming way. In Beery project management, no plan survives 10 years, let alone 80. She may have well have been trained in fairy finding and unicorn hunting for all the good it did her.

  69. shatterzzz Avatar
    shatterzzz

    A day in the life of “renewables” chart ….
    https://postimg.cc/64RLNLRh

  70. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    and good morning to you too titsoff

  71. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Hope they were good swimmers. The British and Americans effectively controlled sea transport.

    BJ – They’d be ordered to withdraw from combat. That would focus hearts and minds wonderfully at supreme Allied command level I assure you. Curtin was pretty good at threatening such actions if the UK and US got too high handed, which they did quite regularly. Churchill in particular was tied in knots over this after Pearl Harbor. He was forced to provide sea transport for the 6th & 7th Divs, which he tried very hard not to do. I kind of liked Curtin’s style even though he was typical Labor.

  72. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Groogs, did you get that one with this months KKK e newsletter?

  73. Knuckle Dragger Avatar
    Knuckle Dragger

    To outdoor pursuits!

  74. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Most renovation jobs are completed as you prepare the house for sale.

  75. Zatara Avatar
    Zatara

    What happened in the Coral Sea battle and its aftermath made a Japanese invasion of Port Moresby or Darwin a non-starter.

    What the Japanese knew was that they had lost ALL their naval air cover during Coral Sea and the Allies still had Yorktown somewhere about.

    What they didn’t know at that moment was that TF-16 (Enterprise and Hornet) had done a quick turnaround after launching the Doolittle raid and were heading for the South Pacific. Not in time for Coral Sea, but in excellent time to conduct a feint around Nauru and Ocean Island, taking pains to make sure they were observed doing so before quietly slipping away back to Pearl Harbor to prepare for Midway.

    Upon hearing the spotting report Adm Inoue immediately cancelled the Moresby Operation and left forthwith to return to Rabaul/Truk, thus ending the last legitimate threat of Japanese invasion anywhere in the South Pacific.

  76. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    my brickie reckons automated brick laying could be a thing
    not for renovations and relatively small jobs but
    could be used by volume builders because they have relatively few floorplans that are replicated over and over

  77. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Forget Twitter, Australian Instagram (the Zuck) has dropped its gearbox in a major way.

  78. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Bruce of Newcastlesays:
    April 23, 2023 at 10:07 am
    Hope they were good swimmers. The British and Americans effectively controlled sea transport.

    BJ – They’d be ordered to withdraw from combat. That would focus hearts and minds wonderfully at supreme Allied command level I assure you.

    And they would have sat and watched as the Germans ran through Alamein to Cairo, Alexandria and the Suez Canal? The Bomber Offensive faltered? The Battle of the Atlantic suffered many more losses? Cut off their collective noses to spite their collective faces?

    Drop the political crap. In war, the lesser allies (Australia was one such) do what they can and suffer what they must. Australia would have suffered Japanese troops in Darwin because we had no alternative. And the efficient MacArthur censorship machine would have painted it as a stunning strategic success.

  79. Zatara Avatar
    Zatara

    the sea room around Darwin is a very different fish to fry than the Coral Sea. The USN would be unlikely to risk passage of the narrow Torres Strait bottleneck in the face of land-based Japanese aircraft.

    Nah Bon. The waters of the Arafura and Timor seas are much less congested than those of the Solomon for instance, or even the Bismark, where Enterpise and Hornet were operating at the time (and both of those were surrounded by Japanese air bases).

  80. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Pray to holy Gaia, peasants.

    Time Mag: ‘The Case For Making Earth Day a Religious Holiday’ – Urges ‘an earth-reverent belief system’ complete with ‘reverence’ & ‘hymns’ & ‘prophets’ (22 Apr)

    Earth Day was of course yesterday. They’re actually serious. The level of crazy is really hitting an amazing height of silliness lately.

  81. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    Nah, Cletus, I got it from a Sailer column @ Unz Review titled
    Photographic Addendum to [Ann] Coulter’s Law.
    Here’s a coupla pics of Trayvon Martin, the one the MSM went with, as a 12 year old and the one we weren’t shown.

  82. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Hilarious obituary for Humphries in the Paywallian. Worth a year’s subscription alone, before having a single Prof van Wrongselen comment rejected (again).

  83. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    … what date for the Voice ref?

    As late as Albo thinks he can get away with.

    If Mr. 32% had any nous he’d go early.

    The longer it rolls noislily down the road the more people will fall off the bandwagon.

  84. lotocoti Avatar
    lotocoti

    Extinction Rebellion doing their bit to hasten extinction.

  85. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Our 18yo Trot has wedged himself. He’s finished as soon as the referendum results come in. Lucky he has a new family to spend time with.

  86. Bourne1879 Avatar
    Bourne1879

    According to Courier Mail a Coles in My Gravatt on Brisbane Southside no longer has the manned check outs and now all self service.

    Seems there is also one in Melbourne.

    Since there will be considerable labour cost savings I wonder if their prices will be cheaper than other stores.

    Am all for efficiency but in this case I prefer they keep the jobs as if this spreads then going to affect tens of thousands of jobs.

    Hopefully the locals shop elsewhere.

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  87. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    If Mr. 32% had any nous he’d go early.

    The longer it rolls noislily down the road the more people will fall off the bandwagon.
    There’s no bandwagon.
    The only way it gets up [apart from AEC theft] is viewers get sick of the sight and sound of Jacinta Price and vote her off the island the first chance they get.
    I’d say after the Footy Season, but before it gets too hot.

  88. OldOzzie Avatar
    OldOzzie

    Wallabies are forced to wear a WHITE jersey in ‘woke’ World Rugby move that could see the famous All Blacks also made to abandon iconic brand for a white alternative

    . Alternative strips introduced for inclusivity
    . Colour blind rugby fans slam the policy

    What a Dumb Move! – As a badly colour blind persom I can tell the difference – Woke gone Mad

  89. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Time Mag: ‘The Case For Making Earth Day a Religious Holiday’ – Urges ‘an earth-reverent belief system’ complete with ‘reverence’ & ‘hymns’ & ‘prophets’ (22 Apr)

    And heretics.

    Fun fact:

    Time recently listed Evelyn Waugh as one of the 100 most read female authors.

  90. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Ed Casesays:
    April 23, 2023 at 10:23 am
    Nah, Cletus,

    Grandpa Ed Simpson

    I have told you before, there is only one Cletus the Illustrious, get your story lines straight.

  91. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Zatara – The USN high strategy was to go after Jap carriers. The Port Moresby invasion transports were a secondary target. (I’m basing this from the Aussie war history series 2 naval volumes, which have a detailed account of Coral Sea.) If there were no carriers in the Darwin area the US carrier would not be sent there – they’d remain in the east confronting the Japanese carriers. The Japanese didn’t need their carriers for the conquest of the Netherlands East Indies or Singapore. Transport and supply from Guam (for example) to Darwin would be entirely covered by land based air craft plus surface naval vessels in support. Recall from TE’s writing that Darwin harbour became a no go zone pretty much, and that’s just by air attacks out of Timor.

    The Japanese had an absolute lock on the Netherlands East Indies sea space and with interior lines. We got hammered off Java at the time by both land based aircraft and JN vessels. And the war ended before we even made an attempt to recapture Timor and Java.

  92. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    Time recently listed Evelyn Waugh as one of the 100 most read female authors.
    Heh.
    Joyce Kilmer one of the 100 most quoted female poets?

  93. OldOzzie Avatar
    OldOzzie

    Scientists may have finally figured out why hair turns gray — and how to stop it

    Not my problem, much to my Wife’s digust, as she went Grey at 30 and has to keep colouring her hair as does not want to be Grey alongside Dark Haired Husband

    Still – Dark Hair, no Grey at 78

  94. Wally Dalí Avatar
    Wally Dalí

    Anthony of the Underbite could either-
    go early (it’ll have to be before Melbourne Cup Day) to minimise the bleedout, and then claim a mandate to Voice by the back door for the 45%, 35%, 25%, 99% of traditional community booths, whatever voted for it
    or, go late- ie this time next year- to maximise the time freely spending taxpayer e-credits on the Yes case… and maximise the trotskyite targeting of his enemies, the beastly beastly conservatives.
    Lose the referendum, win the war.

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