Open Thread – Tues 6 June 2023


Throne of Mercy, Albrecht Dürer, 1511

2,262 responses to “Open Thread – Tues 6 June 2023”

  1. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    The marketing of Rebel Moon begins.

    Zack Snyder Goes Galactic: Exclusive First Look at Rebel Moon

    https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2023/06/zack-snyder-exclusive-first-look-rebel-moon

  2. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    As I recall the Arctic was predicted to be ice free by 2008. Gore said 2014.
    Maybe all the white stuff we see today is imaginary?

    Ice-Free Arctic Forecasts (Tony Heller)

    Karoly is still screeching after all these years. Retire mate, nothing much is happening, and anyway the primary driver of Arctic sea ice is the ~60 year cyclic AMO.

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  3. lotocoti Avatar
    lotocoti

    Staged by some local AmDram troupe.
    It’s too perfect not to be.
    Surely.

  4. Crossie Avatar
    Crossie

    lotocoti says:
    June 7, 2023 at 7:20 am
    Staged by some local AmDram troupe.
    It’s too perfect not to be.
    Surely.

    I agree, it has to be a setup. The environmentalists would recognise their own status symbol in a T on a steering wheel.

  5. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Engineering is hard.

    Moment massive four lane bridge completely collapses into river while being built (5 Jun)

    The Indian government is facing accusations of corruption after an enormous bridge collapsed for the second time in the span of a year. No casualties were reported with no movement of people or vehicles on the bridge when nearly 250 meters (820 feet) of the concrete surface connecting pillars crashed into the Ganges River on Sunday.

    Maybe they need to talk to the Pythons about how to build things in wet places.

  6. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    feelthebernsays:

    June 7, 2023 at 5:51 am

    Watching the golfing establishment twist themselves into a knot over this is glorious.
    PGA monopoly, good.
    LIV breakaway, bad because “it will destroy the game” & “the evil Saudis”.
    Now a monopoly again, controlled by the Saudis, good.

    World Series Cricket all over again.
    I thought it would settle but not this quickly.
    Having a laugh at players who were slagging each other off on Twatter over it only two days ago.

  7. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Lotocoti
    That was hilarious.
    I hope it was real.

  8. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Could be a woman who is clueless about makes and models and just ‘all car evil’.

  9. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Comer has finally gotten the FBI to disgorge a document. Yay! Took a threat of jail for Wray for contempt of Congress. Even then the FBI would only show Comer the document not provide it for the committee.

    Rep. Comer to Newsmax: FBI Doc Alleges Biden as VP Profited From Ukraine Aid (6 Jun)

    House Oversight Committee Chair Rep. James Comer, R-Ky., on Newsmax, Tuesday, alleged there is evidence in an FBI document showing Joe Biden, in the last 18 months of his vice presidency, personally profited in his role of doling out foreign aid.

    In an interview on “Wake Up America,” Comer said the FBI document pertains to Ukraine.

    “This [FBI] 1023 form I got to view yesterday, the oligarch who allegedly bribed Joe Biden when he was vice president said that he would make it almost impossible for anyone to find because they were gonna launder it through a series of banks and a series of shell companies,” Comer said.

    Tiniest tippy tip of a very deep and very stinky iceberg, but it’s a start. Now do Bursima, son, and the blackmail job Biden did to get the Ukrainian special prosecutor fired. Then defund the FBI utterly.

  10. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Knuckle Draggersays:
    June 7, 2023 at 6:49 am
    David Mills, ‘National Environment Reporter’ for the Hun brings to the table something nobody’s ever seen or heard of before:

    The Arctic could have an ice free summer as soon as the 2030s – a decade earlier than previously thought –

    I can’t be bothered, but if someone else could list the multiple previous (failed) forecasts of an ice-free Arctic, it would provide some light amusement early in the morning.

  11. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    lotocotisays:

    June 7, 2023 at 7:20 am

    Staged by some local AmDram troupe.
    It’s too perfect not to be.
    Surely.

    Hundreds of these on Soshul Meeja.
    “Angry Karen gets put in place”
    “Disrespectful teen gets put in his place”
    “Returning soldier puts cheating girlfriend in her place”
    There’s a lot of “putting people in their place”.
    Boomer click-bait.

  12. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Bruce of Newcastlesays:
    June 7, 2023 at 7:09 am
    As I recall the Arctic was predicted to be ice free by 2008. Gore said 2014.
    Maybe all the white stuff we see today is imaginary?

    Thanks Bruce, I should have scrolled down.

  13. Real Deal Avatar
    Real Deal

    Johanna last night:

    Also, the Italian surname threw me. There was a Scottish F1 driver – maybe Fittipaldi?

    Fittipaldi was Brazilian.

    I think you’re thinking of Dario Franchitti the Indycar driver. He’s Scottish.

  14. Perplexed of Brisbane Avatar
    Perplexed of Brisbane

    Knuckle Draggersays:
    June 6, 2023 at 9:58 pm
    Sounds jolly well German to me, what?

    Filthy Boche.

    Flashheart:
    How disgusting. A Boche on the sole of my boot. I shall have to find a patch of grass to wipe it on.
    Probably get shunned in the officers’ mess! “Sorry about the pong, you fellows. Trod in a Boche and can’t get rid of the whiff!”

    Woof!

    Well, well, well. If it isn’t little Bobby Parkhurst. Saucier than a direct hit on a Heinz factory.

    Tenuous German link but Blackadder Goes Forth was great.

  15. lotocoti Avatar
    lotocoti

    The Yanks are expecting to find audio of someone shouting “This is Putin country!”
    moments before that dam collapsed, washing away all the forward
    Russian defensive positions.

  16. Crossie Avatar
    Crossie

    Indolent says:
    June 7, 2023 at 7:33 am
    I’d say he’s right.

    Musk says Canada doesn’t really have free speech

    Trudeau made that obvious to the world by his treatment of the truck convoy participants and anyone who helped them. But then again a population that thinks the sick, old and poor should be euthanised don’t deserve free speech.

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  17. Perplexed of Brisbane Avatar
    Perplexed of Brisbane

    Can you please explain, who, where and why would someone run a combined pizza, kebab joint?

    JC, Why would you doubt the validity of the concept of such a pinnacle of fine dining? If they added BBQ chickens, that would be awesome.

  18. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Woke pig.

    Peppa Pig Wishes Children a ‘Happy Pride Month,’ Backlash Ensues (6 Jun)

    As with most children’s characters that get co-opted into promoting adult sexual proclivities, parents were none too happy with the post.

    “Why do y’all want kids knowing about stuff like this let them be kids and let this page just be about kid things,” said one commenter.

    “On Christmas you posted Happy Holidays in fear of offending but you have no problem posting for pride. Do you think more of your audience celebrates Christmas or pride? Unfollow,” said another commenter.

    “I hope you do the same thing for our veterans and respect for unborn babies,” said another.

    People on Twitter were equally brutal.

    Getting this shoved down children’s throats like this is going to red-pill a lot of parents. Not exactly the result the pig people want, I suspect.

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  19. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Sounds like the venue reviewed the footage and there was a lot more drinkage than claimed.
    Someone sticks a needle in your thigh, it’s gonna hurt.
    hmmm

  20. calli Avatar
    calli

    destroyed – old and busted

    gets put in place – new hotness

    Must be the wars and rumours of wars bringing out the clickbait doves of peace.

  21. Vicki Avatar
    Vicki

    Scottish F1 driver – Jackie Stewart.

  22. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Afr, paywalled, a story not quite dead yet.
    Two US tech giants called ATO over PwC leaks probe

  23. Crossie Avatar
    Crossie

    Bruce of Newcastle says:
    June 7, 2023 at 7:50 am
    Comer has finally gotten the FBI to disgorge a document. Yay! Took a threat of jail for Wray for contempt of Congress. Even then the FBI would only show Comer the document not provide it for the committee.

    A copy of it should have been provided to every committee member or it didn’t happen.

    The other option is to have the whole committee go and view it at the archives. How hard could that be? But this is not about procedure, this is about power, the FBI has it and the Republicans don’t or they won’t use it.

  24. Vicki Avatar
    Vicki

    For anyone interested in the Folbigg case – & the general media is nauseating – the SMH (strangely) had an excellent article including detailed history of the circumstances of her early life (horrendous) & the specifics of each tragic death of the children. The article is available without paywall on the internet.

  25. Crossie Avatar
    Crossie

    With regard to Biden corruption documents, Comer does a lot of talking on Fox and if he got his way that would stop and he would actually have to do something about it. Can’t have that.

  26. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    Scotland has a substantial population of people with Italian heritage because, beginning in the 1890s, many migrated from Italy to Scotland. This increased between the wars. Why did they leave Italy? For a number of reasons, but the main one was crushing poverty.

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  27. Dot Avatar

    As for this mine controversy:

    Peak Downs and Moranbah North both probably exceed 20 km; but they’re made up of chains of smaller mines due to watercourses and the lack of paydirt in some sections . Some sections are many kilometres long.

    That’s about it. There are other long chains of smaller mines, but they’re nowhere near as contiguous as Peak Downs/Moranbah North.

    Two out of a couple of hundred and only technically one “mine” per site office is rare and an exception.

    There just isn’t a 20 km long open cut mine here. Show us the Google coordinates otherwise.

  28. Vicki Avatar
    Vicki

    I believe that the figure of $400,000 by Ch7 has been established as settled for Folbigg story & this is without the millions forecast for compensation from the public purse. Whatever you believe about the case, when are we going to stop handing out money to those ( eg Noknickers) who have a complaint of suffering ?

  29. calli Avatar
    calli

    Was “open cut” a requirement, or an add on? If you include underground, 20km is half of bugger all.

  30. Dot Avatar

    Russians are agitated about Putin’s War.

    Deputy of the State Duma from United Russia Zatulin: What were our goals officially declared at the beginning of the Special Military Operation? Denazification, demilitarization, the neutrality of Ukraine and the protection of the inhabitants of the Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics, who have suffered all this time. On which of these points did we achieve results? None. Moreover, some of them have ceased to have any meaning. For example, the neutrality of Ukraine. What is the meaning of this requirement? None at the moment. It will not be neutral if it continues to exist. And now the question is — will Ukraine under the leadership of Zelensky or his successors continue to exist following the results of all that is happening, or not? They will, I can tell you, because the strength to overcome this, with the support that they receive, is, in fact, not enough. Will remain. By the way, in my opinion, the leadership of our country does not speak out on this subject, and it does the right thing. But it, in the essence of what is happening, makes it clear that it understands this.

    State Duma deputies called on the Russian government to evacuate children from all regions bordering Ukraine as soon as possible. The head of the State Duma Committee on Family, Women and Children, Nina Ostanina, published a corresponding instruction, which was signed by other parliamentarians. In the document, the deputies explained that in the Belgorod region shelling from Ukraine has sharply intensified. Residents in the Bryansk, Kursk and Voronezh regions are at a similar risk. The deputies recalled that on May 31, the first 300 children were evacuated from the Belgorod region on behalf of the local authorities. Parliamentarians propose to place children from the border regions in the Orlyonok, Smena, Ocean, Scarlet Sails children’s centers, in the Artek international children’s center, as well as in sanatoriums, medical institutions and boarding houses throughout Russia.

    Putin was, is and will be open to any contacts in order to achieve the goals of the Russian Federation by means other than “SVO”, — Peskov
    And what is it, “SVO” is not going according to plan, or what?

    Putin is ready to “surrender” the border, the main thing is to protect Moscow: what is behind the creation of new military districts in the Russian Federation
    Against the background of the failures in Ukraine, the aggressor country suddenly decided to “reform” the army, among other things, by seriously increasing its numbers
    However, the implementation of these plans has already been questioned both by ordinary Russians and directly by the occupiers

    “At first there was no resistance at all.” Russia no longer controls border Shebekino, RDK claims
    The city of Shebekino, Belgorod Region, which was at the epicenter of hostilities, is in an abandoned state. Official Russian forces no longer control the town, but their resistance is growing, according to the Russian Volunteer Corps.
    “Our goals do not change, they remain. Our task is Shebekino and Belgorod. There was no resistance at all at first, but it is growing. And this is a plus, because our goal is to pull troops from the border regions and the front onto ourselves, ”said in the Air. News” chief of staff of the RDK Alexander with the call sign “Fortuna”.
    According to him, the volunteers have no casualties: “There are light wounded, but we don’t have 200ths.” The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation previously announced the elimination of at least 70 saboteurs who penetrated the territory of the Belgorod region during the raid on May 22–23.
    According to the representative of the RDK, the Belgorod authorities did not help the local residents in any way in the evacuation.
    “At the moment when the hostilities began, the local population began to randomly flee to Belgorod, they were not even provided with evacuation. By and large, the border villages and Shebekino are in an abandoned state,” he said.

    The Russian army does not control Shebekino, said Oleksandr “Fortuna”, chief of staff of the RDK.
    ? “People leave en masse, they are given a corridor, but they do not ensure the safety of these corridors. The city is controlled by marauders, chaos ensues. Settlements and villages located directly on the border are shelled with the help of aviation and artillery, armored vehicles of the army of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. They operate as usual, there are no surprises. They are absolutely pissed off at the population.”

  31. Bourne1879 Avatar
    Bourne1879

    Yesterday heard an ad on 2GB by National Servicemen Association in relation to the 2 year draft. Seems they are seeking compensation for their lost two years.

    I note somebody said new Governor of VIC acknowledged the ownership of the land etc. When you have official statements like that and it being mentioned at so many events you can see the reparations invoices coming.

    Regarding the Voice am getting feeling now a push to pursuade recent migrant arrivals voting Yes the right thing to do. Just don’t mention the cost to them.

  32. flyingduk Avatar
    flyingduk

    In todays Oz:

    Prepare for ‘tsunami’ of cancer cases. A surge of ‘millions’ of cases risks overwhelming health services unless urgent action is taken to prepare for patients with more complex needs.

    Another case of ‘preparing the battlefield’ to hide the longer term vax complications, along with normalising strokes in young people, and collapses on football pitches>?

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  33. shatterzzz Avatar
    shatterzzz

    Regarding the Voice am getting feeling now a push to pursuade recent migrant arrivals voting Yes the right thing to do. Just don’t mention the cost to them.

    How would recent arrivals be able to vote? .. shirley, only those on the electoral roll are eligible ..!

  34. flyingduk Avatar
    flyingduk

    Ukraine has opened the gates at the Dnieper dam upstream of Nova Kakhovka. Doing what they can to intensify the flooding.

    Pretty much confirming that the Ukes are behind the destruction of the dam.

    I dunno. the Ruskies have form in the self harm area – remember they blew up their own pipelines!

  35. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Yesterday heard an ad on 2GB by National Servicemen Association in relation to the 2 year draft. Seems they are seeking compensation for their lost two years.

    National Servicemen had an option to two years full time service, in the form of six years part time service in the Citizen’s Military Forces – now the Army Reserve.

  36. Big_Nambas Avatar
    Big_Nambas

    Cases were confirmed by the Expert Adjudication Committee of the Korea Disease Control and Prevention Agency, finding COVID-19 vaccine-related myocarditis confirmed in 480 cases (1.08 cases per 100,000 persons. When slicing and dicing the national data by gender, Kim and colleagues report a higher incidence of vaccine-related myocarditis in men than in women (1.35 vs 0.82 per 100,000 persons, P 0.001).

    https://www.trialsitenews.com/a/korea-national-cohort-study-validates-incidence-of-covid-19-vaccine-related-myocarditis-sudden-death-significant-cardiovascular-risk-for-young-males-2b4bfbdb

  37. thefrollickingmole Avatar
    thefrollickingmole

    On the Snyder show…

    That leads Kora to General Titus

    Snyder reads the cat??

  38. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Prepare for ‘tsunami’ of cancer cases.

    Yeah, Duk, I was wondering whether there was a bit of that in the following story too:

    Gonorrhoea and syphilis cases in England reach record highs – latest data (6 Jun)

    Figures from the UK’s Health Security Agency (UKHSA) found that gonorrhoea diagnoses increased by 50.3 percent to 82,592 in last year, compared to 2021.

    This represents the highest number of cases in any one year since records began in 1918, according to the UKHSA.

    The health body also found that infectious syphilis diagnoses rose to 8,692 in 2022, representing the largest annual number since 1948.

    It would make sense if immune system activity is declining that there could be a rise in other infections as a result. No mention of Covid nor vaxxes in the story, though, so you’ll just have to read the tea leaves however you want.

  39. P Avatar
    P

    Astrud Gilberto, famous for her hit ‘The Girl From Ipanema’,
    has died aged 83.

    Astrud Gilberto and Stan Getz – The Girl From Ipanema (1964) LIVE

  40. Dr Faustus Avatar
    Dr Faustus

    That’s about it. There are other long chains of smaller mines, but they’re nowhere near as contiguous as Peak Downs/Moranbah North.

    Blackwater Mine is much longer than Peak Downs/Moranbah North – it’s huge. The total strike length (ie the length of the coal presentation at the surface) is reported at 80km.

    As you say, that’s not a single pit; it’s mined in a chain of pits, from memory the longest connected part is ~30km.

  41. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    It would make sense if immune system activity is declining that there could be a rise in other infections as a result. No mention of Covid nor vaxxes in the story, though, so you’ll just have to read the tea leaves however you want.

    Western populations are getting older.

  42. flyingduk Avatar
    flyingduk

    Whatever you believe about the case, when are we going to stop handing out money to those ( eg Noknickers) who have a complaint of suffering ?

    The Voice will put an end to this ‘sorry money’ nonsense.

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  43. thefrollickingmole Avatar
    thefrollickingmole

    Government: Here sign up for this totally non compulsory levy scheme…

    Business: Lol, no

    Government: Sign up for this totally non compulsory levy scheme, or we will make it compulsory and punish you.

    Australia’s biggest fashion retailers are being threatened with a mandatory levy on garment sales, after many big names failed to sign up to a new scheme to tackle the 200,000 tonnes of old clothes going into landfill every year.

    In a speech delivered today at the launch of Seamless in Sydney, which had been sent exclusively to the ABC, Environment Minister Tanya Plibersek told tell the rest of the fashion industry it had 12 months to sign up or else face regulation directly.

    “That is a drop dead date. No excuses, no extensions,” Ms Plibersek said.

    “I will impose a system and I will set the levy.”

    Seamless is being implemented under the federal product stewardship act, which can see waste-stream management enforced on industries through voluntary, co-regulatory or mandatory schemes.

    Other mass-produced items being targeted include batteries, solar panels, baby car seats, mattresses, and e-waste.

    Programs so good they have to be legislated and have a levy imposed to fund them…

    Next up: The cost of living crisis, why its from forces outside our control!

  44. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    As to the dam, it sounds to me that the Russians took a leaf out of the Ukie book and blew the dam as a defensive tactic. Recall that the Ukes did exactly that with the water reservoir north of Kiev, and it literally bogged the Russian advance.

    Blowing it now would both secure the southern front for months and also allow units to be diverted to the north and east fronts, where the Ukies seem to have been probing in force.

    If the Ukies were going to do it for battlefield prep they would have done it in winter, so that the river banks and the swamps would have a chance to dry out in time for the Summer Offensive™. Which I don’t think is particularly real. But Mr Z will be under a lot of pressure from the US and EU neocons to carry out the vaunted offensive, so I think there will be some flagwaving advances before reality exerts itself and he goes back cap in hand saying “if only we had more tanks it’d’ve worked!” But that just may be cynical me.

  45. Top Ender Avatar
    Top Ender

    Don’t bring Blackadder into it:

    One example is the TV comedy show Blackadder Goes Forth, set in World War I in 1917. While funny, well-written and having reasonably accurate sets and uniforms, it also badly misrepresents reality in several ways.

    All senior officers are portrayed as incompetent, whereas any unsuccessful generals were actually quickly withdrawn by all sides. Junior officers such as Captain Blackadder, meanwhile, seem to have no responsibility for the 200 or so men who would have been under his command. And the stunning stupidity and uselessness of Private Baldrick is a far cry from the actual average Tommy, who was intelligent, capable and well-trained.

    The whole series, particularly the comi-tragic final episode, reinforces the concept of ‘lions led by donkeys’ – a very popular depiction of the Great War which arose in the 1920s, partly as dislike of supreme commander General Haig permeated the popular consciousness of Britain in post-war analysis of the enormous fatality count. The reality of the Great War was that it locked millions of soldiers into fixed defences where they struggled for supremacy. The Allies won the war, but afterwards an understandable revulsion set in at the scale of the casualties. Much of this manifested itself in (often unfair) condemnation of the military and political leaders. In the main, the commanders, junior officers and troops were brave, resourceful and committed soldiers.

  46. calli Avatar
    calli

    While funny, well-written and having reasonably accurate sets and uniforms, it also badly misrepresents reality in several ways.

    The writers will be heartbroken that their satire has been so effective.

  47. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Western populations are getting older.

    Roger – the STI data in that story is in young people. He’s the first sentence of the report.

    England saw a larger rise in gonorrhoea cases for 2022 than “ever before”, particularly in young people, according to an expert.

    I never know if Cats will get a paywall on Express stories – I don’t, so I just post an except.

  48. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    One example is the TV comedy show Blackadder Goes Forth, set in World War I in 1917.

    I’m reading Gordon Corrigan’s “Mud, Blood and Poppycock”, about Britain and the First World War.

    “Some years ago, the British Army’s small arms training manual was entitled “Shoot To Kill.” This led to protests from libertarians, who claimed that such a title instilled aggression. Quite. Should the pamphlet have been entitled “Shoot to Miss?” Page 11.

  49. Johnny Rotten Avatar

    Maybe this world is another Planet’s hell.

    – Aldous Huxley

  50. Crossie Avatar
    Crossie

    Bruce of Newcastle says:
    June 7, 2023 at 9:00 am
    Prepare for ‘tsunami’ of cancer cases.
    Yeah, Duk, I was wondering whether there was a bit of that in the following story too:
    Gonorrhoea and syphilis cases in England reach record highs – latest data (6 Jun)
    Figures from the UK’s Health Security Agency (UKHSA) found that gonorrhoea diagnoses increased by 50.3 percent to 82,592 in last year, compared to 2021.

    There has been a huge influx of migrants from Africa and other places where these diseases proliferate so I wouldn’t blame COVID as the main cause.

  51. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Western populations are getting older.

    Roger – the STI data in that story is in young people. He’s the first sentence of the report.

    Erm…I was referring to the uptick in cancer cases.

    Sorry if that wasn’t clear.

  52. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    The writers will be heartbroken that their satire has been so effective.

    Reality has always presented a problem for satirists.

  53. Dot Avatar

    They used “Shoot to Kill” in WWII as well IIRC.

    …and no Virginia, left of the Bolsheviks, communist Unicronian planet-eating supermassive black hole champagne socialist personages such as Phatty Adams are not libertarians; how can Ayn Rand, Murray Rothbard and Robert Nozick also be libertarians?

    “I’m a left-libertarian”
    “Mostly peaceful firey protests”
    “Communist liberation theory”
    “Gender-affirming care”

  54. thefrollickingmole Avatar
    thefrollickingmole

    One of the things a lot of critics of WW1 generals dont seem to touch on is how much politics & ‘prestige” deformed thinking.

    Eg: The boxheads had a very nice plan to keep attacking at Verdun but without really trying to take it.
    The idea being to bleed the french white thanks to massive superiority in artillery and the fact the french had too much ‘prestige” tied up in the fortress.
    It worked as planned for a start, an absolute meat grinder for the French army.
    They it all went horribly RIGHT for the boxheads.
    They took some of the forts.
    That meant they had too much “prestige” tied up in it, and the French got to dish out the same bleeding the Boxheads had been doing earlier.

    In effect they bled themselves for months because the “cost” of headlines saying they had lost the place was considered higher than losing whole divisions of men.

  55. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    The chocolate ration has been increased!

    ‘Only one sausage per month for everyone!’ German Nutrition Society recommends over 90% reduction in daily meat eating– to combat global warming (4 Jun)

    German daily newspaper Bild: Only one sausage per month for everyone! – “Less meat consumption = better climate? The Lower Saxony Chamber of Agriculture has calculated that even halving meat consumption would bring Germany one percentage point closer to its climate goals.” … “No one wants to ban people from their occasional currywurst. But overall meat consumption in the population is too high for health and sustainability reasons, it’s a scientific fact“, indicates the DGE to the German newspaper.

    The German Nutrition Society (DGE) now recommends reducing meat consumption to 10 grams per day per person to combat global warming. … A sudden and radical renunciation: The average meat consumption of Germans is 109 grams per day, or about 763 grams per week. The population will therefore have to drastically change its eating behavior if it agrees to comply with this new strategy.

    How about this: hell, no! Take your stupid weekly sausage and stick it where the sun don’t shine. Scientific fact these days seems more to do with religious belief than any actual science.

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  56. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Clothes are just another version of the plastic straws are killing the sea turtles conservation movement. Expect a few party invitations and then not so much.

  57. lotocoti Avatar
    lotocoti

    I dunno. the Ruskies have form in the self harm area – remember they blew up their own pipelines!

    The Popovs are devious like that, what with their historically warlike national character.

  58. Dr Faustus Avatar
    Dr Faustus

    Canberra Rape Crisis Centre calls out media conduct over reporting of sexual assault

    The claims were made in an open letter posted to CRCC website on Tuesday, written by its CEO Chrystina Stanford.

    “Recently CRCC have been contacted by media a number of times asking us to confirm different things that relate to Brittany Higgins,” Ms Stanford said in the statement.

    “The reason seems to be to publish yet another story aimed at shaming, blaming, and discrediting a young woman.

    “These are not positive experiences for us, as we were contacted in an attempt to pervasively criticise a young person publicly, to tear at her story, her life and her pain.

    “Ms Stanford said the treatment of potential sexual assault survivors in the media could deter other victims to come forward.

    “We pick at the story to put holes in it, act in disbelief, blame the victim, shame the impacted! By doing this we close the door on them, we make them feel like they can’t seek help and are taking the easy way out,” she said.

    Ms Stanford makes a valid point. Rape is a particularly horrid crime – and the issues for victims coming forward are certainly profound and terrible.

    But it’s not clear how she views taking rape allegations forward through the media; or Brinny and BFF Wilkinson spending hours workshopping how to maximise the political impact and media outfall of the allegations against Lehrmann.

    Whatever actually happened, it could be argued that Higgins hasn’t done the cause of rape victims any favours.

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  59. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    No surprise Plibbers and the Liars are all over it. It is bread and butter for the Greens.

  60. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    “No one wants to ban people from their occasional currywurst.”

    Although they considered it.

  61. calli Avatar
    calli

    Why go to the media in the first place? They are not your friends, unless you are a narcissist or an idiot.

    Go to the hospital immediately. They will then involve the police who will investigate. This is not difficult and it remains private until charges are laid.

    This is what mothers tell their daughters. Some mothers, but not all.

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  62. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    ““The reason seems to be to publish yet another story aimed at shaming, blaming, and discrediting a young woman.”

    The only person who has shamed, blamed and discredited Brittany Higgins is Brittany Higgins.

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  63. C.L. Avatar
    C.L.

    Folbigg in prison: Highly manipulative, violent, a liar and an “alpha” inmate who lorded it over the psychopaths around her.

    What a surprise.

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  64. Chris Avatar
    Chris

    Totally voluntary clothes levy?
    I have been infuriated by this 10cent deposit on containers bullshit.
    Government drones offer the innocent citizen a fine of two of their free hours every couple of months to poke containers one at a time through a stupid machine for no particular financial benefit.
    The wool bale of containers already kept for recycling at my sports club now needs a cash accounting system and one-fifth of a full-time employee to do the bullshit.
    More lamp-posts for politicians!

  65. thefrollickingmole Avatar
    thefrollickingmole

    Government – its only other peoples money…
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/jun/06/australian-first-affordable-rental-scheme-a-massive-relief-for-victorians-faced-with-housing-crisis

    Templeman is one of the first tenants of an Australian-first affordable rental scheme on offer by the Victorian government. Under the plan, about 2,400 homes from the government’s $5.3bn “big housing build” will become available to rent for low- to middle-income earners by July 2027.

    $5300000000 divided by 2,400 = $2,208,333 per unit….

    Someone is coining it.

  66. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Why go to the media in the first place? They are not your friends, unless you are a narcissist or an idiot.

    Think the jury is still out on that one (no pun intended). Beware of ectomorphs bearing dossiers.

  67. shatterzzz Avatar
    shatterzzz

    The Voice will put an end to this ‘sorry money’ nonsense.

    Bloody oath! .. far too many whities getting on the 251 gimme bandwagon

  68. Dot Avatar

    Niemand legt Innereien in die Ecke!

  69. C.L. Avatar
    C.L.

    Tucker on Twitter Ep. 1.

    Yes, Ukrainian terrorists blew up the dam. Duh.

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  70. shatterzzz Avatar
    shatterzzz

    All senior officers are portrayed as incompetent, whereas any unsuccessful generals were actually quickly withdrawn by all sides.

    I must have been reading the wrong books all these years ……!

  71. flyingduk Avatar
    flyingduk

    Western populations are getting older.

    Not since COVID they aren’t – LE has dropped in the west since the covid/covid vax experience, and given the average age of death ‘from’ covid was *higher* than the average age of death, it wasn’t covid that dunnit.

    Ponders – if it wasn’t covid during the covid/covid vax that reduced LE, what could it have been …. baffling….

  72. Dot Avatar

    Now that’s some sad shit.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiHL3TXNA-8

    Seattle, Aurora Avenue Love – Episode 1
    Big City Bev

    Its so nice to see so many elderly man giving these young girls a lift home

    Alexandria Ocasio-Smollett
    Alexandria Ocasio-Smollett
    2 months ago (edited)
    I drive this every day going to work. I saw a couple girls out there a few times that were 16 **at most**.

    A few weeks ago when I stopped to get coffee at Starbucks, there was a cop sitting there. So I asked him why they don’t do something at least about the minors that are doing it.

    He just shook his head, looked away, and didn’t say anything. Then he looked at me and said they are specifically instructed not to do so. I asked him who instructed them not to. His exact words were “those who give us our orders“. I then asked him if that order was originating from local(city/county) superiors; or from a larger entity(state/federal). He said it was coming from the latter.

    I could tell it was eating him up. I still can’t believe what our country is becoming.

    I think there is an unemployed one at 2:59 until about 3:13.

  73. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    But it’s not clear how she views taking rape allegations forward through the media…

    I wonder if that wouldn’t come under the rubric of “advocacy”?

  74. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Not since COVID they aren’t…

    Good point, but time will tell if that’s a blip or a trend.

  75. Roger Avatar
    Roger

    Niemand legt Innereien in die Ecke!

    Kichern.

  76. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity Avatar
    Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

    Chris says: June 7, 2023 at 9:47 am
    I have been infuriated by this 10cent deposit on containers bullshit.
    Government drones offer the innocent citizen a fine of two of their free hours every couple of months…. for no particular financial benefit.
    The wool bale of containers already kept for recycling at my sports club now needs a cash accounting system and one-fifth of a full-time employee to do the bullshit.

    Amen to that.
    All the cans/stubbies generated by the pub are taken to the recycling depot. In regressive Qld this is done by stuffing them into wool bales, labelling each bale with your “Recycling ID number” (or whatever it is called – you have to be registered & issued a several-digit number) & leaving them for the recycling depot staff to perform secret recycling business on, in a secure area.
    We take them along every so often, a ute load chockers with misshapen woolbales.

    Payment of a few hundred dollars comes through a week or two later, not as one payment, but for secret recycling reasons broken into dozens of simultaneous payments ranging from two dollars through to fourteen dollars.

    It is not worth it. It is a loss, particularly of time.

    The only place it could work is with unpaid labour – & it requires so much of that I wouldn’t recommend anybody bother.

  77. Dot Avatar

    The 10c refund on cans is a make-work programme for the unemployed by any other name.

  78. C.L. Avatar
    C.L.

    Washington Post reporting that Ukraine terror team bombed Nord Stream.
    New York Times acknowledges many Ukrainian soldiers are literal Nazis.

    It’s always amusing when the “media” catch up with reality.

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  79. mem Avatar
    mem

    Canberra Rape Crisis Centre calls out media conduct over reporting of sexual assault

    Isn’t this the same organisation Brittany and et al were discussing nominating to receive a percentage of book profits?

  80. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The 10c refund on cans is a make-work programme for the unemployed by any other name.

    Handy source of revenue for the local R.S.L.

  81. Dot Avatar

    I’m surprised the brewers, distillers and vintners don’t have some sort of bailment system (I’m sure they used to, but likely for other reasons); they’d want a rebate off the bottle manufacturers if they can supply the finished/raw material then there’s no guarantee it would be cheaper but you’d bypass mining and for aluminium, electrowinning? Surely making bauxite into aluminium is more expensive than cleaning and melting recycled aluminium? Of course, it goes down to scale and the costs of switching job tasks.

  82. C.L. Avatar
    C.L.

    Via Rita: Tucker’s Ep.1 watched by 6 million people in one hour.

  83. Chris Avatar
    Chris

    I’m surprised the brewers, distillers and vintners don’t have some sort of bailment system (I’m sure they used to, but likely for other reasons); they’d want a rebate off the bottle manufacturers if they can supply the finished/raw material then there’s no guarantee it would be cheaper but you’d bypass mining and for aluminium, electrowinning? Surely making bauxite into aluminium is more expensive than cleaning and melting recycled aluminium? Of course, it goes down to scale and the costs of switching job tasks.

    For Aluminium, yes; the recycled aluminium is (source: a 1976 uni lecture) 1/11th as costly in energy as making it from bauxite.
    But labor costs to collect and manage are high.

  84. Chris Avatar
    Chris

    Its just faster and cheaper in management attention to have one stream: buy bottles, fill, send out the door.
    Your attention spent on bullshit has a high opportunity cost.

  85. Crossie Avatar
    Crossie

    Whatever actually happened, it could be argued that Higgins hasn’t done the cause of rape victims any favours.

    That is exactly what Wilkinson and Higgins have done, they made it harder for anyone to make a rape accusation that will be believed without the biological evidence.

  86. Crossie Avatar
    Crossie

    C.L. says:
    June 7, 2023 at 10:13 am
    Via Rita: Tucker’s Ep.1 watched by 6 million people in one hour.

    He beats the whole day Fox line-up in ten minutes. Murdochs are really smart.

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  87. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Other mass-produced items being targeted include batteries, solar panels, baby car seats, mattresses, and e-waste.

    Tanya forgot to mention wind generators.

    And many local councils already charge to receive large items like mattresses.

  88. calli Avatar
    calli

    He beats the whole day Fox line-up in ten minutes. Murdochs are really smart.

    Reminds me of this.

    Give the people what they want.

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