Open Thread – Tues 6 June 2023


Throne of Mercy, Albrecht Dürer, 1511

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Roger
Roger
June 8, 2023 10:16 am

There goes the Airfix WW2 market then. Decals are now illegal.

Bruce, I think Airfix stopped providing swastika decals with their models some time ago when several European countires they export to made the symbol illegal.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 8, 2023 10:18 am

These ideas are usually held by people whose idea of capitalism is the guy in the Monopoly set.

Roger
Roger
June 8, 2023 10:18 am

The chances of any company systematically underpaying workers is Nil.

Coles certainly appears to be doing its best.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
June 8, 2023 10:20 am

or are the Libs just fncking stupid.

Shirley you are joking? That’s been a given for 10 years or more.

lotocoti
lotocoti
June 8, 2023 10:21 am

The situation mirrors the pipeline explosions …

Fear not, Duk.
Top Men are working on it.

Real Deal
Real Deal
June 8, 2023 10:21 am

Why am I not surprised that a Cat has a Nazi memorabilia collection.

What a cheap shot that is, Monty. I previously thought better of you.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 8, 2023 10:22 am

Roger – I’m going to have to search my old dad’s house to check if he’s kept any of the Airfix models I built as a kid. I wouldn’t want him to be gaoled for Nazi sympathies.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
June 8, 2023 10:23 am

Dr Chalmers warned in March Australians will be 40 per cent poorer by 2063 if the federal government is unable to turnaround lacklustre rates of productivity growth.

Oh no! What if the government cannot repeat the feat that they…erm… never did in the first place.
It’s people understanding customers’ sense of value, eliminating wasteful steps from production, and going about their daily jobs who make productivity happen, not the Canbra Ivory Tower.

Roger
Roger
June 8, 2023 10:24 am

These ideas are usually held by people whose idea of capitalism is the guy in the Monopoly set.

I’ve no problem with capitalism, but I’m not so naive as to imagine that all people in business are upstanding citizens like ye philanthropic Quakers of old. That’s precisely why we have to have laws to protect workers.

Chris
Chris
June 8, 2023 10:27 am

The chances of any company systematically underpaying workers is Nil.

Coles certainly appears to be doing its best.

I remind you that BHP just announced a 13 years of underpayments.
And the Unions conspired with Colesworth to pay below the legal minimum rates to supermarket shelf stackers and the similar, using an enterprise agreement that failed the ‘better off overall’ test but paid the unions.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 8, 2023 10:28 am

It was a Chinese day yesterday, because I popped into one of those Nail Bars in a shopping centre to get a quick manicure. All run by Chinese and again, with only the proprietress speaking much English. These places offer manicures of variable quality, and a proper salon is still the better option, but when your nails are broken anyway and a mess from having one of those shellac colourings last time, then a quick job suffices. I showed my manicurist the little traditional Disney Cinderella and Snow White figurines, so colourful with added glitter, that I had brought for my grand-daughters. She fell about in admiration of them as I knew she would. Couldn’t help myself in the purchase, even though I am ‘politically’ off Disney. The memories of how much I loved these two images brooked no anti-Disney sentiment: it was Disney from my day and it was wonderful to hold and see and feel again that delighted intake of breath at Snow White’s high-standing white collar and Cinderella’s paniers on each side of her ball-gown skirt. I remember making models of them both in plasticine when I was about nine.

I’m telling you all this because MareeS said it is what I am known for, the daily grind stuff. 🙂

A little bit more than that too, Maree, I hope, but mindless entertainment and occasional self-disclosure also has its place here. It’s useful practice in writing as well or age will rust up any talent I may or may not have. Good to see you commenting here again.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 8, 2023 10:29 am

Roger – read a modern award or agreement, code the payroll system for tens of thousands of workers and get back to me.

Roger
Roger
June 8, 2023 10:29 am

Dr Chalmers warned in March Australians will be 40 per cent poorer by 2063 if the federal government is unable to turnaround lacklustre rates of productivity growth.

So why did the government back a pay rise that bears no connection with productivity growth? Why is it pushing retrograde industrial relations laws? And why aren’t they prioritising supply side reforms to stimulate business activity?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 8, 2023 10:29 am

… and that’s bought not brought.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 8, 2023 10:31 am

So why did the government back a pay rise that bears no connection with productivity growth? Why is it pushing retrograde industrial relations laws? And why aren’t they prioritising supply side reforms to stimulate business activity?

Because they can, Roger. No other reason needed for an unreconstructed Trotskyite like Albo.

Roger
Roger
June 8, 2023 10:33 am

Roger – read a modern award or agreement, code the payroll system for tens of thousands of workers and get back to me.

That sounds like hard work that I won’t be generously recompensed for, unlike the HR people at Coles and several other large Australian companies, who really should be able to get it right.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 8, 2023 10:33 am

Project management as a discipline is great with excellent tools but the fads and buzzwords drive me mad. 

Rowe’s cartoon this morning hit on the most banal of all … “work smarter, not harder”.

Real Deal
Real Deal
June 8, 2023 10:34 am

Zero upticks for my Monty comment. Hmm.

BTW I have a diecast model of a FW-190. It has the swastika on the tail back-to-front. That’ll teach them.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 8, 2023 10:35 am

Independent MP Dai Le does not believe Anthony Albanese is “in the clear” over his potential involvement with former political staffer Brittany Higgins and her partner David Sharaz.

Dai Le asking the questions that Beetrooter dare not speaketh.

Roger
Roger
June 8, 2023 10:36 am

No other reason needed for an unreconstructed Trotskyite like Albo.

Rhetorical questions, Lizzie.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 8, 2023 10:37 am

We had an underpayment issue arise for super paid to a bunch of labcoats who were being paid under some old SECV award. Mistakes happen, interpretations and decisions are required to be made. Errors, when they are found, are often longstanding and involve big amounts. That’s life.

Chris
Chris
June 8, 2023 10:38 am

Why am I not surprised that a Cat has a Nazi memorabilia collection.

What a cheap shot that is, Monty. I previously thought better of you.

LOL.
Anyone of farming, mining, church or military background, any gun owner, any person with an interest in boys toys like noisy cars or motorbikes or pocket knives, would find the cheap shot to be par for the course. Monty in his character as right-thinking person is in no way letting himself down with that one.
Of course if he deserved some of the names we usually call him, this little cheap shot would stand for high-minded, well reasoned argument.

Roger
Roger
June 8, 2023 10:38 am

And the Unions conspired with Colesworth to pay below the legal minimum rates to supermarket shelf stackers and the similar, using an enterprise agreement that failed the ‘better off overall’ test but paid the unions.

Up the workers!

Jorge
Jorge
June 8, 2023 10:39 am

Reading Jeremy Clark in the Spectator as he slowly died was both illuminating and beautiful.

Yes Lizzie, Clive James, too did his best work then.

Jorge
Jorge
June 8, 2023 10:40 am

Effin’ commas.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 8, 2023 10:42 am

Dai Le asking the questions that Beetrooter dare not speaketh.

The Beetrooter is a retail politician. Like Kochie but with a Commcar.

Bar Beach Swimmer
June 8, 2023 10:42 am

Currently we’re in the country visiting my Dad. As it’s been teeming all morning, we’ve been watching that Nein morning show – the one with David Campbell.

Well, a vomit-inducing segment had Jane holier-than-thou Caro saying:

“The quickest way to go from a first world country to a third world country is to reduce taxation”. (See the stage 3 tax cuts).

I found myself screaming at the teev: “no, you cretin, it’s from assaulting the energy grid with ruinables”.

Ps hi, MareeS!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 8, 2023 10:42 am

H B Bearsays:

June 8, 2023 at 10:29 am

Roger – read a modern award or agreement, code the payroll system for tens of thousands of workers and get back to me.

It’s the overlaps which kill you.
“But what if my call-in from RDO is on afternoon shift the day before a public holiday and I don’t clock off until after midnight? Isn’t that triple time?”
(These queries always end with the phrase “Isn’t that triple time?”)

lotocoti
lotocoti
June 8, 2023 10:42 am

What a cheap shot that is…

Probably just Frühlingserwachen jitters, Real.
Will his Waffen SS adjacent Right Sector Bros get thrown into the Great Offensive,
or will they be held back for the ethnic cleansing of Crimea?

Roger
Roger
June 8, 2023 10:42 am

Errors, when they are found, are often longstanding and involve big amounts. That’s life.

What’s been reported thus far in the Federal Court case is not award interpretation errors but at best poor recording & accounting practices and at worst wage theft.

Rabz
June 8, 2023 10:43 am

Visionary bureaucrats existing outside the box ,working smarter, not harder, while harnessing the power of AI and new regulatory frameworks to “unleash a tsunami of productivity”.

Welcome to Dim Chambersland, peons!

Roger
Roger
June 8, 2023 10:49 am

Visionary bureaucrats…

God help us.

Why does “Nugget” Coombs come to mind?

Dot
Dot
June 8, 2023 10:49 am

“The quickest way to go from a first world country to a third world country is to reduce taxation”. (See the stage 3 tax cuts).

If taxes make everything better, why not a 99% income tax for the visual, performing, written and recorded arts?

Come on, man!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 8, 2023 10:54 am

Thomas Lifson of American Thinker discovers Sky News Australia…

Stunning TV interview (in Australia!) on the Hunter Biden laptop evidence (5 Jun, via Instapundit)

Well done Ms Hale!

flyingduk
flyingduk
June 8, 2023 10:54 am

There goes the Airfix WW2 market then. Decals are now illegal.

Bruce, I think Airfix stopped providing swastika decals with their models some time ago when several European countires they export to made the symbol illegal.

So the weapon is ok, but not the label?

FFS, that would make about as much sense as them not letting us write hurtful phrases on the side of missiles and bombs in Afghanistan – oh wait ….

(YES, they really did do that)

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 8, 2023 10:57 am

Could be everywhere else, flourishing trade, a universe teeming with life and space time folding near instant interstellar and intergalactic travel. We know it’s theoretically possible and we only isolated individual elements within the last 300 years.

I always think of the quote by JBS Haldane:

My own suspicion is that the universe is not only queerer than we suppose, but queerer than we can suppose.

However strange might the universe be then as strange would be the life to be found in it. Indeed, even ‘life’ might be too parochial a term.

Whether there is alien life out there or not makes no difference to how I should conduct my life – it is not part of my equations (so to speak).

It did seem a little strange that Tucker Carlson was speaking of the whistleblower saying that America has alien technology (and bodies) as being so close to certainty. If he wanted to emphasise how the MSM was ignoring what would be such a profound revelation to stick to their little obsessions it would have been enough to insist that this guy can’t be just shrugged off as a crank so it ought at least to be looked at. But TC seemed very much more convinced.

If they do have an alien then they may have been an interstellar police officer serving a warrant on Zuckerberg. You would think they could make a more convincing human suit. Even Googlery could have stitched together something more convincing.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 8, 2023 10:57 am

Visionary bureaucrats…

God help us.

Why does “Nugget” Coombs come to mind?

Or the financial acumen of Rex Connor.

He’s effin’ Whitlam the Second, despairs Hairy about Albo’s Cabinet line-up.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 8, 2023 10:58 am

“But what if my call-in from RDO is on afternoon shift the day before a public holiday and I don’t clock off until after midnight? Isn’t that triple time?”

The sort of questions that tend to come up at morning smoko. In my previous (brief) life as a HI mine worker we all got a copy of the little red book to answer these questions.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 8, 2023 11:02 am

What a cheap shot that is, Monty. I previously thought better of you.

M0nty’s done his dash here ever since he stood up for Nazi-sympathisers physically bashing women.

He’s still at it, verbally bashing Cassie.

Taking cheap shots everywhere these days. Not even a semblance of reasoned debate.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 8, 2023 11:02 am

H B Bearsays:

June 8, 2023 at 10:42 am

Dai Le asking the questions that Beetrooter dare not speaketh.

The Beetrooter is a retail politician. Like Kochie but with a Commcar.

Retail politician?
Is that anything like a “shifty bullshitter”?

Roger
Roger
June 8, 2023 11:03 am

So the weapon is ok, but not the label?

Purely a cost saving measure on Airfix’s part I’d say, else they’d need two production runs on the decals and a sorting system for boxes going to different markets. I don’t imagine the profit margin on model airplanes is very fat!

lotocoti
lotocoti
June 8, 2023 11:03 am

One thing the dam has done has taken attention away from how poorly the UKR offensive has gone so far.

Haven’t seen any signs of Leos, Challengers or Bradleys,
so I’m not convinced it’s the offensive.
Except: Seventy-nine years ago, the Krauts believed the invasion
would be on for real if and where Patton and his First US Army Group showed up.
The current crop of game changers could be the equivalent of the wholly fictitious FUSAG,
confusion-wise.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 8, 2023 11:05 am

What’s been reported thus far in the Federal Court case is not award interpretation errors but at best poor recording & accounting practices and at worst wage theft.

Haven’t really been following it. I’m the last person to defend Colesworths. There is a tendency to think bigger companies have better systems but there is a point of diminishing returns beyond which complexity and IT kills you. I have no doubt where Coles is operating.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 8, 2023 11:06 am

When you believe in aliens you’ve lost the plot. Humans are an imaginative species.

Aliens tend to change their characteristics and technologies according to the time and place they appear.

That should tell you all you need to know about aliens.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 8, 2023 11:06 am

The sort of questions that tend to come up at morning smoko. In my previous (brief) life as a HI mine worker we all got a copy of the little red book to answer these questions.

Smart blokes on a complex award are better at finding loopholes than Swiss tax lawyers.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 8, 2023 11:11 am

Retail politician?
Is that anything like a “shifty bullshitter”?

They’re the ones you need at election time. So I guess that would be a yes. The ones who tell you about the $257 reduction in your electricity bill. Those ones.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 8, 2023 11:11 am

m0ntysays:
June 8, 2023 at 9:37 am
3. A friend texted me last night to say I was an oracle. She said “Cassie, you said from the beginning that this “La Higgins” spectacle was a political hit job”. I replied, without any pride (pardon the pun), yes I am, but I take no comfort from being an oracle, it’s just that I always have my eyes wide open and I think it’s high time others also opened their eyes.

LOL, that sounds like all those Trump stories where big strong soldiers come up to him with tears in their eyes to thank him for being awesome.

So up yourself you can’t see daylight.

Mirror, mirror, on the wall, which fat fascist fool lives with his head permanently inserted up his rectum?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 8, 2023 11:12 am

As an aside, I had cause years ago to examine the sick leave records of a company to establish whether a couple of chaps were where they claimed to be on particular days.
An interesting pattern emerged.
I asked the payroll manager about it.
“Oh, that’s the RDO swapping thing”.
Turns out employees would pair up and agree that each would call in sick on the other’s RDO. The second one then gets called in on yuuuge penalties for disrupting his RDO.
The favour gets returned next month.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 8, 2023 11:14 am

Smart blokes on a complex award are better at finding loopholes than Swiss tax lawyers.

Like why isn’t there a roast chicken in my esky in lieu of a meal allowance? Can’t remember whether the award actually covered that.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 8, 2023 11:15 am

m0ntysays:
June 8, 2023 at 9:46 am
Nazi symbols to be banned

Four of my edged weapons collection just doubled in value…

Why am I not surprised that a Cat has a Nazi memorabilia collection.

Tell us about your collection of communist memorabilia. Che T-shirt? Mao cap with Red Star? Mao’s Little Red Book?

Curious minds.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 8, 2023 11:17 am

Turns out employees would pair up and agree that each would call in sick on the other’s RDO. The second one then gets called in on yuuuge penalties for disrupting his RDO.
The favour gets returned next month.

How else would you cover green fees and beers?

Cassie of Sydney
June 8, 2023 11:19 am

“LOL, that sounds like all those Trump stories where big strong soldiers come up to him with tears in their eyes to thank him for being awesome.

So up yourself you can’t see daylight.”

Well at least I’m not a pervert apologist like you are.

Oh, and have you told your wife you’re a pervert apologist?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 8, 2023 11:19 am

No other reason needed for an unreconstructed Trotskyite like Albo.

Rhetorical questions, Lizzie.

Always worth reiterating Albo’s background though, Roger. Some aren’t as old as others, and those who were present at Whitlam’s Festival of Destruction need to reinforce the nature of the times. Hairy knew Albo back in the days of the 70’s Labor Branch stackings, even visited his mother’s Housing Commission flat once. He points it out to me if we drive by there.

The Voice reminds me a lot of the Regional Councils that Whitlam tried so unsuccessfully to introduce.
Another layer of bureaucratic governance inbetween the local Councils and the State Governments.

Old ideas never die, they just keep on resurfacing in new guises. Lest we forget that.

bons
bons
June 8, 2023 11:22 am

It is an interesting impass that we have reached regarding Knickerless.
Emerging evidence is leaning strongly towards not just a disgraceful political conspiracy, but with the addition of a $3m payoff, a criminal conspiracy. Most probably the greatest criminal conspiracy in our political history.
None of the hubris empowered arrogant Liars involved in this crime can claim parliamentary priveledge or protection.
I know the answer, but I’ll still ask this question “why has no SFL referred the matter to the AFP”?
This is not a matter for boy Stalin’s little ‘get the libs’ fake corruption outfit. This is a criminal matter of extraordinary breadth.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 8, 2023 11:25 am

Recall is selective. I was listening to a podcast on ‘Succession’ by three media trendies recently. They were discussing why the media magnate Logan had ‘medals’. He was too young for The War (WW2), one said, noting he was a refugee sent to Canada as a child. And he wasn’t in Vietnam, said another, while the third chimed in saying the medals were probably like awards given to bureaucrats, OA’s etc. Yeah, that must be it, they all agreed.

Logan was around the same age as my cousin in Louisiana who served with distinction in Korea in 1953. The Korean War just wasn’t part of the the recall or historical memory of these degree-toting Australians. It’s fallen off the radar. It didn’t happen. No-one went to it.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 8, 2023 11:28 am

Chris

And the Unions conspired with Colesworth to pay below the legal minimum rates to supermarket shelf stackers and the similar, using an enterprise agreement that failed the ‘better off overall’ test but paid the unions.

Hmmmm. Bill Shorten, CleanEvent, Chiquita Mushrooms, donations to Bill’s campaign fund. Pure coincidence.

Cassie of Sydney
June 8, 2023 11:28 am

“What a cheap shot that is, Monty. I previously thought better of you.”

I’ve never thought better of him. He’s an unashamed pervert apologist and Jew hater.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
June 8, 2023 11:29 am

Flyingduk recalled:

FFS, that would make about as much sense as them not letting us write hurtful phrases on the side of missiles and bombs in Afghanistan – oh wait ….

Echoes of Strangelove.
Gentlemen, gentlemen! You can’t politicise violence in here, this a war zone!

Bar Beach Swimmer
June 8, 2023 11:32 am

Lizzie, have been meaning to thank you for your recommendation of Lying for the Admiralty.

I’d always wondered why Hobart was an imperative to settle for the Admiralty. That right of any other to take possession of an island shows the need. And Cook’s deliberate cartographic imprecision with isthmus implied drawing as the instrument.

(I bought the second book as well but have not read.)

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 8, 2023 11:33 am

Chiquita Mushrooms

Just beautiful.

caveman
caveman
June 8, 2023 11:33 am

Nazi symbols to be banned

I hear it will be retrospective .

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
June 8, 2023 11:34 am

bons prescribed:

This is not a matter for boy Stalin’s little ‘get the libs’ fake corruption outfit. This is a criminal matter of extraordinary breadth.

A federal ICAC seemed like a good idea at first. But the question really had to be asked, if every action a corrupt public servant could do is already illegal and already within the purview of StatePlod and FedPlod, why exactly is a new enforcement body needed for corruption specifically – especially when the people calling for it are the politicians and not the average person on the street?
If one was being cynicalrealistic, one may begin to suspect the transfer of corruption investigation from plod to ICAC is to ensure non-prosecution of maaates when it really counts.

calli
calli
June 8, 2023 11:38 am

*dusts off hands*

Cheesecake (chuckle) cooked, and a banana yoghurt cake. Bedrooms aired, bathrooms scrubbed, floors vacuumed. About to make up a spag bol, a big one.

My beautiful boys, the light of my eyes, are up for the weekend. Oh, and they’re bringing their parents and the derg too. I love long weekends!

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 8, 2023 11:39 am

Rogersays:
June 8, 2023 at 10:29 am
Dr Chalmers warned in March Australians will be 40 per cent poorer by 2063 if the federal government is unable to turnaround lacklustre rates of productivity growth.

So why did the government back a pay rise that bears no connection with productivity growth? Why is it pushing retrograde industrial relations laws? And why aren’t they prioritising supply side reforms to stimulate business activity?

Has Genius Chalmers considered the possible effect of an unreliable energy supply system on productivity growth? No? Thought not.

Zatara
Zatara
June 8, 2023 11:40 am

Matt Walsh: I Called Up a “Trans Healthcare” Provider and Purposely Flunked the Criteria for a “Trans” Diagnosis But They Gave Me a Prescription to Get My Testicles Cut Off Anyway… in 22 Minutes

The cost of getting a fraudulent order for testicle removal surgery in 22 minutes: $150.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 8, 2023 11:40 am

Gays invented lurve.

Romantic love in humans may have evolved from same-sex friendship (Phys.org, 7 Jun)

Romantic heterosexual relationships in humans may have evolved from same-sex pairings in a common ancestor of humans and chimpanzees, according to a novel hypothesis by a researcher at The University of Texas at Austin.

The prevailing explanation of heterosexual pair bonding and romantic love in humans is that it evolved from the mother-infant bond present in many mammals. In a paper published in the journal Evolutionary Anthropology, anthropology professor Aaron Sandel cites primate research—including his own decade-long studies of chimpanzees in Kibale National Park, Uganda—to propose instead that this behavior evolved in humans from same-sex pair bonding already present in a common ancestor of humans and chimpanzees.

This is so ludicrous I looked Prof. Sandel up. He(?) has a Twitter account, and it’s just as fruity as you might expect. The tweet from 11 Feb was especially amusing.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 8, 2023 11:42 am

O.K., so I’m reading “First Nations Aviators.” They do mention the indigenous bloke I used to know, who served two tours in the fun factory, the second as a gunner in 9 Squadron ( he’s since gone to God) and there are those who recognise that “If it wasn’t for the Air Force, I’d be dead or incarcerated,like most of my mob, ” but then we have “Air Force Elder so and so” and “Air Force Elder Auntie so and so…”

cohenite
June 8, 2023 11:50 am

I’ve never thought better of him. He’s an unashamed pervert apologist and Jew hater.

And he has no dick.

Davey Boy
Davey Boy
June 8, 2023 11:52 am

Dear Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

Do you or Mr Hairy know whether Albo’s mother was, in the early to mid 1980s, ever a school teacher at certain inner west Sydney high schools?

It would be useful to confirm or otherwise given what documents I have seen.

With Thanks,
Davey Boy

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 8, 2023 11:52 am

Looking at the dam busting from either sides perspective for why they would do it.

Russia: Intel showed the Ukrainians had assembled enough of a force to be a serious threat in the area below the dam. possibly enough to snip off the Crimea region. Blowing the dam would make sense then.

Ukraine: You have assembled you force above the dam ready to go, to protect your Southern flank and ensure you have the maximum force for your northern push you blow the dam to ensure no opportunistic strike can take place while you are engaged in the North. Perhaps you have intel showing this was likely.

So though I do lean towards the Ukrainians doing the dambusting, there are still scenarios where it could have been in Russias interest to do so.

Lysander
Lysander
June 8, 2023 11:57 am

Isn’t Zelensky the Ukrainian Dyke?

Perhaps it’s all a metaphor lol 😛

Chris
Chris
June 8, 2023 11:59 am

Tell us about your collection of communist memorabilia. Che T-shirt? Mao cap with Red Star? Mao’s Little Red Book?

Curious minds.

LOL. There was a kerfuffle in the news about 1974 as Chicom sailors on the wharf gave out copies of the Thoughts of Chairman Mao (the little red book). I popped into the Communist Bookshop in William Street Northbridge, and got a couple of copies plus Five Essays in those bright red plastic covers. I read them through then donated to my high school library, gaining an amused smile from the librarian.
The one that stuck in my mind was the essay titled ‘On Contradiction’; basically, waffle around the idea that (1) the Party says whats true and (2) If reality contradicts the Party, see Rule 1.
Now I carry a little red book Think Safety in my top pocket that catalogues 12 classes of potential fatal dangers to guard against. Human Behavior is 12th.

Zatara
Zatara
June 8, 2023 12:00 pm

Sanctuary Cities Seethe as Illegal Immigrants Actually Arrive

The surest sign that public policies are simply virtue signals is when the messages don’t cost anything. The easiest way to tell when that signal starts to fail is to watch politicians flounder as the costs start to rise and voters demand relief.

… When they reach that turning point, pressure will mount within the Democratic Party for dramatically different policies. It won’t be easy to change the minds of party leaders, as their record shows. They wouldn’t do it when fentanyl deaths surged in Ohio, West Virginia, and New Hampshire. They wouldn’t do it when communities near the southern border were overwhelmed and begged Washington for help. But unload a few busloads of immigrants in the heart of Democratic cities, and politicians go into paroxysms.

“For they sow the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind.”

Bar Beach Swimmer
June 8, 2023 12:00 pm

From the Daily Mail:

On Thursday, the PM hit back at the suggestions and insisted: ‘I have absolute confidence in Senator Gallagher.

Kiss of death for one of the mean girls.

Cassie of Sydney
June 8, 2023 12:01 pm

“M0nty’s done his dash here ever since he stood up for Nazi-sympathisers physically bashing women.

He’s still at it, verbally bashing Cassie.

Taking cheap shots everywhere these days. Not even a semblance of reasoned debate.”

Correct, and that’s his shtick. Further to wanting to punching Nazis, which is simply code for punching ordinary men and women who have opinions and beliefs the progressive left dislike, there’s an interesting and revealing Youtube video of a recent Let Women Speak rally in Hyde Park, London where an interviewer asks one of the far-left protesters, who happens to be a well spoken, white, clearly middle class young woman, “do you think that the women attending the rally should be punched and bashed”? and the young woman replies, nodding eagerly and enthusiastically, “yes, yes, they’re all Fascists and Nazis, they need to be punched, we need to punch them”. I suppose this is laughable, except it isn’t funny, because most of the women at these rallies are, or were, of the left, Julia Long, Julie Bindel and Sheila Jeffreys are hardly “conservative”, hardly “right-wing”, hardly “far-right”, hardly “fascists,” and hardly “Nazis”, but worse, to tells that the modern left will tolerate no dissent and that they’re willing to use violence to deal with dissent.

And so, ladies and gentlemen, this is what our resident troll known as Monty wants to do, he wants to see people like you and me punched in the face. You see, I happen to think that whilst he’s misguided politically, I don’t want to punch him and I don’t want to see him punched. I don’t like political violence because it never ends well. However, Monty agrees with that woman, he’s said it on these pages, that he’d like to “punch a Nazi”, which means punching you and me. Well okay then, but here’s the thing, if someone throws a punch at me, I’ll punch back.

Buccaneer
Buccaneer
June 8, 2023 12:03 pm

If taxes make everything better, why not a 99% income tax for the visual, performing, written and recorded arts?

If taxes make everything better, why aren’t lefties volunteering on mass to pay more than the minimum? Surely, this would be the ultimate virtue signal, Ha, I’m better than you because i contribute more tax. But they never do, they always want someone else to pay for it.

If government truly makes everything better, donate all your income to the government lefties and let them make all your life decisions and leave the rest of us to get on with our lives. What could possibly go wrong? (just don’t look at Venezuela)

Lysander
Lysander
June 8, 2023 12:12 pm

BTW – great thread on HigginsGate over at CL’s blog… (although Groogs is being his usual moronic self)…

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 8, 2023 12:21 pm

I see Chris Dawson is not taking the stand or calling any witnesses in his carnal knowledge case.
I expect Ed Googlery to arrive anytime now screeching “What’s he got to hide? Anyone who doesn’t take the stand has to be guilty!”

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 8, 2023 12:23 pm

Daily Mail.

Peter Dutton demands Anthony Albanese ‘come clean’ on his dealings with Brittany Higgins and David Sharaz after damning texts suggested he was part of a plot to ‘weaponise’ rape allegations – as the PM is grilled over Labor’s role: ‘The PM needs to be honest’

Anthony Albanese caught up in secret Brittany Higgins’ texts
Trove of message between Ms Higgins and her partner revealed
Karl Stefanovic claims the messages ‘appear pretty damning’

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 8, 2023 12:30 pm

Karl Stefanovic claims the messages ‘appear pretty damning’

OMG!
Once you’ve lost the Oracle of Noosa it’s all over.

Bill P
Bill P
June 8, 2023 12:33 pm

JC way back talking about losing

a decent part of your body

Didn’t we resolve this limb thing in the recent discussion about the 4.00 am escape from a dingo ugly.

areff
areff
June 8, 2023 12:34 pm

When you believe in aliens you’ve lost the plot.

or encountered my ex-mother-in-law

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 8, 2023 12:37 pm

or encountered my ex-mother-in-law

I got on quite well with my ex -mother-in-law. Too bad she gave birth to the Creature from the Black Lagoon.

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 8, 2023 12:39 pm

m0nty says: Why am I not surprised that a Cat has a Nazi memorabilia collection.

You’re right Monster! I also have edged weapons from the evil empires of Britain, the USA, France, the USSR, and Japan.

What should I do? Sell them off and give the money to someone deserving? Guide me Monsts!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 8, 2023 12:41 pm

I expect Ed Googlery to arrive anytime now screeching “What’s he got to hide? Anyone who doesn’t take the stand has to be guilty!”

Grogarly’s good mate “Chrisso?”

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 8, 2023 12:44 pm

Looking at the dam busting from either sides perspective for why they would do it.

Looking at the dam busting from a TikTok influencer’s perspective, it looks like the demolition was carefully controlled and very effective. *

Reinforced concrete is a bugger of a material to blast – you either have to spend time drilling/placing charges to get a controlled cut, or use mass explosives that results in an unreliable outcome and makes an awful mess.

Big Serge would have a better idea than I about how come the Russians guarding the dam missed the Ukrainians spending a few weeks setting up the charges. (Or ferrying in tonnes of bang.)

* Yes, the Grauniad. But the before/after graphic downpage is very useful.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 8, 2023 12:48 pm

Big Serge would have a better idea than I about how come the Russians guarding the dam missed the Ukrainians spending a few weeks setting up the charges. (Or ferrying in tonnes of bang.)

Mossad.
Tunnel from Tel Aviv.
Used Indian truck-drivers to blend in with the locals and create a diversion.
So obvious.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 8, 2023 12:49 pm

Ukraine: You have assembled you force above the dam ready to go, to protect your Southern flank and ensure you have the maximum force for your northern push you blow the dam to ensure no opportunistic strike can take place while you are engaged in the North.

Mole – The problem with that analysis is that since the river is impassable below the dam the Russians are now free to relocate units in that zone north to reinforce any threatened sectors. That’s exactly opposite to the spread-em-out strategy the Ukies had been using lately, with that “independent” “Russian” “dissident” attack on Beogorod to draw reinforcements to be diverted there.

Pretty clear like the Ukies did north of Kiev, the Russians fired their emplaced demolition charges as a defensive measure in advance of the much hyped and vaunted Ukie offensive, which is pretty wimpy, but Russian general staffs tend to be a pessimistic bunch. Probably a useful political excuse to blow the thing anyway, which I suspect the Russians have wanted to do for some time now since it is a real hit to Ukie infrastructure.

I’m amused by the propaganda from Russian mil bloggers of “destroyed” Leopards. One was a combine harvester, the other I saw was a photoshopped repurposed vid from months ago. As usual trying to work out what is really occurring is very tough in the tsunami of rubbish coming from both sides.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
June 8, 2023 12:50 pm

I just want to say that if you have not been blocked on Twitter by Lisa Wilkinson then there is clearly something wrong with you.

Good to see the whole Higgins saga backfiring on certain people like Lisa and Katy Gallagher.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
June 8, 2023 12:57 pm

BoJo (the good version) hypothesised:

Has Genius Chalmers considered the possible effect of an unreliable energy supply system on productivity growth? No? Thought not.

I wouldn’t bet the bank on the Productivity Commission either. In March they recommended a climate tax on petrol/diesel by making Big Bowser responsible for transport emissions.
With a PC like that, who needs Dim?

Rabz
June 8, 2023 12:58 pm

Just watched Tucker on Twatter – some classic lines. On Lindsey Graham and sweaty rat faced olive drab tracksuit man:

“A couple of friends, just sitting down and talking about killing people …”

Highly recommended – and yes, Kenny did deliberately selectively edit the excerpts on the UFOs.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 8, 2023 1:01 pm

Peter Dutton demands Anthony Albanese ‘come clean’ on his dealings with Brittany Higgins and David Sharaz after damning texts suggested he was part of a plot to ‘weaponise’ rape allegations – as the PM is grilled over Labor’s role: ‘The PM needs to be honest’

To return the favour from last year they the Libs should shower Albo with questions during question time – just like they did to Morrison (who seems to have found his real role in life as an object lesson).

Perhaps they could formulate an updated version of ‘Carthage must be destroyed’.

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 8, 2023 1:02 pm

At the Blenheim air show in NZ a few months back. There was a lovely Focke Wulf 190 flying, complete with Maltese Crosses and swastika markings, as well as several Yak fighters in USSR insignia, and WWI fighters.

Here’s some footage.

There was also – curiously -a small detachment of German Army re-enactors. They had a machinegun post, an anti-aircraft detachment, a working camp kitchen, a medical post and so on. It was complete with signs in German, all sorts of equipment from WWII – boxes, camp chairs, tables, tents – everything very carefully sourced.

What happens to such events faced with legislation banning certain markings? I’d argue that their existence is actually beneficial to anyone who is interested in learning about the greatest disaster to ever befall mankind – WWII. I suppose they just carry on without the swastika and so on. But really – have governments nothing better to do?

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
June 8, 2023 1:11 pm

Oh, and have you told your wife you’re a pervert apologist?

He doesn’t have a wife (only a blow up doll). He doesn’t even have a life.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
June 8, 2023 1:11 pm

Dr Faustus supposed:

Big Serge would have a better idea than I about how come the Russians guarding the dam missed the Ukrainians spending a few weeks setting up the charges. (Or ferrying in tonnes of bang.)

That line is best delivered via a bullhorn from atop a pickup truck while adding “6/7 was an inside job!”
Except more plausible this time.

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 8, 2023 1:12 pm

AlboWorld seems to be starting to collapse:

Outrage as Anthony Albanese pledges $100million of taxpayers’ money for Vietnam to tackle climate change amid cost of living crisis: ‘We need help here’

Daily Mail

louis
louis
June 8, 2023 1:16 pm

@Colonel
That’s exactly how anti-corruption commissions work.
1. Smear tactics (shut down in some States). You make a baseless complaint against your opponent and then the commission confirm they are investigating a complaint against opponent, that you then cite as evidence of the complaint in election.
2. Shut-down comment. Oh I can’t answer questions about a matter that’s being investigated by the commission.
3. Get a pass from your mates running the commission which wave around as proof of your honesty and integrity – a tactic used for years by Mr Ipswich despite it later coming out that he was absolutely corrupt for all of those years (which really only came out because a disgruntled MP used Parliamentary privilege to spell out how the dodgy activities all worked).

Hugh
Hugh
June 8, 2023 1:16 pm

Monty agrees with that woman, he’s said it on these pages, that he’d like to “punch a Nazi”, which means punching you and me. Well okay then, but here’s the thing, if someone throws a punch at me, I’ll punch back.

$50 says Cassie will knock the fat prick out in the first round.

C.L.
C.L.
June 8, 2023 1:16 pm

Mel Gibson did not commit suicide.

Just thought I’d lock that in now.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 8, 2023 1:17 pm

Good to see the whole Higgins saga backfiring on certain people like Lisa and Katy Gallagher.

It is looking like a Marx Brothers exploding cigar.
I still think the righteous hubris surrounding the payout will eventually bring them undone.
I am picturing the fat fck Sharaz bowling into the “mediation” and loudly announcing, “Come on guys! Katy wants this done and we’ve already agreed on $3 mill.”
Whatever you think of Finance Dept staff, these people are used to putting mini-bar tabs, per diems and higher duties allowances under the microscope.
There would have been a bit of quiet seething when the instruction came to cut the $3 million cheque.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 8, 2023 1:20 pm

It is looking like a Marx Brothers exploding cigar.

Quite an apt comparison!

Tom
Tom
June 8, 2023 1:22 pm

AlboWorld seems to be starting to collapse

Gee, who could have seen that coming? I mean it’s not as though he was the Liars’ second choice after that other loser stuffed up the 2019 election.

Oh. He was.

Oh come on
Oh come on
June 8, 2023 1:22 pm

O.K., so I’m reading “First Nations Aviators.”

Surely the history of Indigenous flight predates the Wright brothers by unknown millennia.

Oh come on
Oh come on
June 8, 2023 1:27 pm

Come on guys! Katy wants this done and we’ve already agreed on $3 mill.

You can’t blame him – he’s already told us how much Brittany punishes her hems, and he has a lot of sewing to do.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 8, 2023 1:30 pm

Hughsays:
June 8, 2023 at 1:16 pm
Monty agrees with that woman, he’s said it on these pages, that he’d like to “punch a Nazi”, which means punching you and me. Well okay then, but here’s the thing, if someone throws a punch at me, I’ll punch back.

$50 says Cassie will knock the fat prick out in the first round.

More likely first punch.

Tom
Tom
June 8, 2023 1:32 pm

“First Nations Aviators.”

Hilarious.

Don’t tell me: it was part of the dreamtime — 40,000 years ago in Arnhem Land. Right?

Had they started their share-cropping by then?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 8, 2023 1:36 pm

Remember the slobbering of the media who doted and fawned on Brittnah and Sharaz after their big lotto win, when Sharaz hired out the lighthouse in Byron Bay, strewed the floors with rose petals, collapsed onto one knee, and asked Brittany to marry him?

A ridiculous gaudy display worthy of a reality TV show.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 8, 2023 1:39 pm

Read an article on aging populations and the depredations of the Boomers on the public purse.

Had a mischievous thought.
You know how the greens want voting lowered to 16 years old?
Agree to it, on the proviso over the age of 16 you get to vote for yourself AND any kids you have under 16.

It would not only nullify the “kids will vote for green policies” angle, it might see the skew towards wrinklies expenditure cool off a little.

Dot
Dot
June 8, 2023 1:42 pm

So you meet with your rapist the morning after and have a coffee with them (which we didn’t know until recently).

You then wait two years, then shop the story to sympathetic media and politicians you are sympatico with. (Which we knew most of the time).

So many ALP suckholes need to go to gaol over this.

This is the worst government I have lived under, even AFTER the absurdity of the COVID mania.

The stupid claims leftists made on Twitter about Morrison being corrupt were pure projection.

This is also the most corrupt government I have lived under – too young to remember Wran and not being a Queenslander.

jupes
jupes
June 8, 2023 1:47 pm

Probably a useful political excuse to blow the thing anyway, which I suspect the Russians have wanted to do for some time now since it is a real hit to Ukie infrastructure.

No. It’s a hit to Russian infrastructure.

Rabz
June 8, 2023 1:58 pm

There is no possible justification or excuse for Mz Hoggins receiving a $3 million payout from taxpayers.

The End.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
June 8, 2023 2:14 pm

Outrage as Anthony Albanese pledges $100million of taxpayers’ money for Vietnam to tackle climate change amid cost of living crisis: ‘We need help here’

Steady on.
There’s 11 million taxpayers here.
What difference would $9 per taxpayer have made?
It’s practically tokenistic.
Or is hollow virtue signalling okay as long as it is against *your* class enemies?
That figure again, one Lizzie note and two aboriginal coins (=$9) per Australian taxpayer foregone domestic expense. A cuppa and a cookie, basically.

m0nty
m0nty
June 8, 2023 2:20 pm

Pretty clear like the Ukies did north of Kiev, the Russians fired their emplaced demolition charges as a defensive measure in advance of the much hyped and vaunted Ukie offensive, which is pretty wimpy, but Russian general staffs tend to be a pessimistic bunch. Probably a useful political excuse to blow the thing anyway, which I suspect the Russians have wanted to do for some time now since it is a real hit to Ukie infrastructure.

Is it not also a massive hit to Crimean infrastructure? Or are those brave souls to be sacrificed for the glory of Mother Russia?

Dot
Dot
June 8, 2023 2:22 pm

…but there are likely hundreds of these little programs going on. Add it into ongoing debt servicing and increased energy costs. They’re inflicting misery on us, for our own good.

m0nty
m0nty
June 8, 2023 2:22 pm

Just watched Tucker on Twatter – some classic lines. On Lindsey Graham and sweaty rat faced olive drab tracksuit man

Mmyes, and Carlson also described Zelenskyy as “rat-like”. Now, what was that about anti-Semitism?

Vicki
Vicki
June 8, 2023 2:24 pm

I know that there are many plausible coincidences in life – but our energy bill problem makes one wonder.

We have two residences that we use to dwell – mostly on our country farm, where we have a 10kw solar system – and in the city where we have the standard meter for energy calculation. In a very strange coincidence, we have functional problems with the meters on both properties.

On the farm (where we are mostly in residence) it is apparent that our meter (for grid incoming electricity at night & in blackouts) is suddenly not functioning at all as it does not register increments.
In the city, the meter is clearly malfunctioning since it is showing inexplicable high usage when we are there only infrequently.

We have been hours on the phone to our service providers whose employees seem to have little belief that the meters at both properties could be at fault.

The end result is incredibly high usage on our bill in the city & no recompense for the electricity we export to the grid at the farm. Funny that.

We have been told to employ an electrician to investigate the city problem. We understand the provider will supply a new meter to the country solar setup – but it is yet to happen.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 8, 2023 2:35 pm

Gee wizz, Albo the inconceivable is morphing to Albo the impossible before your very eyes.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-06-08/albanese-questioned-on-involvement-with-brittany-higgins-claim/102453872

In text messages between the couple, published by The Australian, Mr Sharaz claims that Mr Albanese gave him his number and offered to fly to Canberra to meet Ms Higgins and that Senator Gallagher was “really invested”, with Ms Higgins suggesting they “feed everything” to the senator so that she could grill the government at senate estimates.

….
Asked at a press conference this morning whether he or other Labor MPs worked with the Higgins camp to further her case, Mr Albanese suggested he had not met with Ms Higgins privately.

“I don’t take advice from — I had not met Brittany Higgins until I met her publicly on the same day she met Scott Morrison*,” Mr Albanese said.

Mr Albanese flatly denied coordinating with Ms Higgins to The Australian, and told reporters he had full confidence Senator Gallagher had acted appropriately.

..
Do I detect a whiff of ” didnt MEET her morphing to “I did speak to her/her Svengali”..

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 8, 2023 2:52 pm

So you meet with your rapist the morning after and have a coffee with them (which we didn’t know until recently).

Ah, no.
It was the following Monday, 48 hours later.
What was discussed?
Whaddya think?
Higgins was blindsided by events the following morning, but had the presence of mind not to be bluffed out of her job.
It took guts for her to stick it out another 2 years while she was being managed out, it makes you think:
Why didn’t they just promote her, or give her a safe seat on the Goldie, then Reynolds coulda brought Lehrmann back and Higgins woulda hadda just cop it?
All roads lead back to Liberal Woman Problem.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 8, 2023 2:55 pm

Gee, who could have seen that coming? I mean it’s not as though he [Albo] was the Liars’ second choice after that other loser stuffed up the 2019 election.

Bruvvas knew the problem. Peanut Head wasn’t the answer. So we got Lord Waffleworth and SloMo.

Dot
Dot
June 8, 2023 2:55 pm

It was the following Monday, 48 hours later.
What was discussed?
Whaddya think?
Higgins was blindsided by events the following morning, but had the presence of mind not to be bluffed out of her job.

Fill us in on what happened on both mornings big boy.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 8, 2023 2:56 pm
Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
June 8, 2023 2:58 pm

How many times can you subtract 10 from 100?

Once. The next time you would be subtracting 10 from 90.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 8, 2023 3:00 pm

Dectective Gargooglery enters stage left. *muffled laughter*

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
June 8, 2023 3:05 pm

Will It All Explode by the Ides of May 2025?

“I know some people send emails alleging I am some sort of Putin supporter. Most of my sources come from inside Ukraine. There is NO government on this earth that EVER has 100% approval of its people. There are ALWAYS two sides just as we have in the polarization of the United States. Many have been forced to flee Ukraine. Zelensky has been forcing young boys to fight on the front line and they are inexperienced and dying by the thousands. Zelensky is wiping out a generation rather than simply honor the Minsk Agreement for the Donbas are Russians who they will NEVER accept anyhow. This is simply a land grab and he is destroying his country for the Neocons and will fly off to his estate in Miami to live like a king forever after.

I believe Zelensky is pure evil. He promised peace and is killing off an entire generation for his greatest European Investment of all time in rebuilding Ukraine with Blackrock – another evil private empire. His constant propaganda that Putin is evil will backfire. The Russian Presidential elections are scheduled to be held in Russia in March 2024. This will be the first round on Sunday, March 17th. If no candidate receives more than half the vote, then a second round will take place exactly three weeks later on April 7th, 2024. The winner of the election is scheduled to be inaugurated on May 7th, 2024. When we look at the computer, it has a Directional Change in 2024 and a Panic Cycle in 2025.

Absolutely NOTHING that comes out as news from Ukraine, NATO, or any mainstream media is EVER going to be the truth. NATO is really a terrorist organization. They exist only for war – not peace. Ask people who live in the former Yugoslavia how they were bombing civilians and the media covered that up as well. They have built this up all about how Putin is evil and Zelensky refused to allow even the Pope to mediate for peace saying you cannot negotiate with Putin. In truth, it is Zelensky who is the Judas and has sold out his own people for a handful of silver.

My fear is that Putin will step down and then we will see the hardliners take the helm. I do not see Putin there post-2024. The hardliners feel Putin has been too “soft” and had he simply invaded Ukraine instead of defending just the Donbas, then this war would have been over in 6 weeks using the same tactics the USA used on Iraq – shock and awe.

This does NOT look good for the future and these damn Neocons never consider what if they are wrong! They BS themselves into thinking Russia is weak and they can destroy it once and for all and divide it up into their EuroAsia and then turn on China. If the hardliners come in, they will do whatever is necessary to defend Russia against our insane Neocons like Lindsey Graham, Victoria Nuland, John Bolton, etc, etc. The United States will lose this war just as they did in Vietnam. People like Graham care nothing about the dead civilians who always outnumber the soldiers. He relishes the idea of washing his hands in Russian blood.”

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/ukraine/will-it-all-explode-by-the-ides-of-may-2025/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 8, 2023 3:08 pm

Grigglebot salivating over Hoggins’ skin again?

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 8, 2023 3:09 pm

Fill us in on what happened on both mornings …

Here’s a guess, irish:
Monday morning:
Generic female: WTF was that all about?
Some rando: I’m deeply sorry, I just thought I’d slip you a length while you were asleep.
Look, my girlfriend is moving to Sydney next week, how’d you like to take her spot on the mound?
GF: Well, okeydoke.
SR: That’s the spirit, see you at work tomorrow.
Whaddya reckon, pretty close to the Truth?

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 8, 2023 3:11 pm

When you find yourself being defended by Albo and Dreyfus you know the end can’t be far away. Dutton has played this like a Stradivarius.

Dot
Dot
June 8, 2023 3:14 pm

No ‘ead you donut.

Both mornings big boy.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 8, 2023 3:14 pm

Dear me, looks like Albo the Incontinent is hitting the big red button..

‘Entirely inappropriate’ for politicians to ask anti-corruption commission to look into Brittany Higgins payout, PM says

In December, Higgins settled a personal injury claim – which was commenced under the Morrison government – against the commonwealth for an undisclosed amount. The amount had been reported as high as $3m, but Higgins has said it was substantially lower.

Reynolds claimed the payment to Higgins was finalised in an “unusually swift” manner, “raising serious questions about how this significant sum of public money was determined and allocated”.

News Corp on Thursday published texts reportedly between Higgins and her partner, David Sharaz, before her allegations were made public, purportedly showing the pair talking about discussing the issue with the Labor frontbencher Katy Gallagher. The texts also show Sharaz talking about direct contact with the then opposition leader Albanese.

Gallagher has denied previous knowledge of the allegations before they became public.

At a Sydney press conference, Albanese said he had “absolute confidence in Senator Gallagher” and said he had not met Higgins until 30 April 2021 – noting it was the same day she met the then prime minister Scott Morrison. However, Albanese did not say whether he had spoken to her before that day.

Asked about Reynolds’ mention of the Nacc, Albanese said the body would be independent.

“One of the things about the anti-corruption commission, that people might not have noticed in the Coalition, is that it’s independent of parliamentarians,” he said.

“It in fact could be regarded as an entirely inappropriate action by the prime minister, or any other politician for that matter, to try to direct the anti-corruption commission into what to do.

“The anti-corruption commission is independent of politics, that’s the idea. If it’s in with politics, then that itself is a problem.”

Gallagher told Radio National on Wednesday she had “no role” in negotiations around the payout but declined to comment further on her interactions with Sharaz.

The attorney general, Mark Dreyfus, rebuffed concerns about the payment, saying the circumstances were not unusual.

“It’s very common for the commonwealth to settle claims on the basis of agreed confidentiality. It’s very often in the commonwealth’s interests that there be confidentiality and often in the case of sexual harassment claims there is a desire on the part of the claimant to keep the matter confidential,” he told Nine’s Today show.

Dreyfus is a highly intelligent turd, one who uses to law to get outcomes he prefers rather than any passing allowance for actual justice.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 8, 2023 3:15 pm

Groogs was better on greynurse sharks. Is this still a beta version?

Chris
Chris
June 8, 2023 3:18 pm

Rabz, I just checked Urban Dictionary to make sure my interpretation of the word ‘Hoggins’ was current. I had seen but one previous usage, in Spike Milligan’s war memoirs.
Laugh! I practically smirked.

Higgins: Literally the worst kind of person

hoggins: British Sexual pleasure. Did you get your hoggins last night?
Boss Hoggin: The act of hogging anything as if you were the boss of a company, store, ect. Also referring to the act of thievery.
Haze hoggin: A selfish person who is hogging all the haze for themselves and doesn’t want to share the wealth.

And it just gets worse from there.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 8, 2023 3:18 pm

Dear me, looks like Albo the Incontinent is hitting the big red button..

The kids-in-short-pants will need changing.

Dot
Dot
June 8, 2023 3:18 pm

Gallagher has denied previous knowledge of the allegations before they became public.

She’s toast. Whichever spook at the Deakin Telephony Switchboard is leaking the texts and chat logs, I suspect they are making this a slow burn. There is more to come and Gallagher has committed her narrative to being no more compromising information.

If they’re half as cynical as I and as equally devious as the Handbag Hit Squad, there is certainly more to come.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 8, 2023 3:20 pm

And it just gets worse from there.

That’s not unusual for Urban Dictionary. The OED it ain’t.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 8, 2023 3:22 pm
Vicki
Vicki
June 8, 2023 3:23 pm

‘Entirely inappropriate’ for politicians to ask anti-corruption commission to look into Brittany Higgins payout, PM says

One of the things that amazes me (and there are many) is how predictable Labor governments are. They resolutely protect their own, despite outrageous violations of responsibility to the public that elected them. Payouts, indiscriminate wage rises that will favour their union mates, support to every minority group – the weirder the better – and now even an alteration to our Constitution.

No doubt they will lose the next election. But the damage they do is virtually irrecoverable. What a crying shame that this mob was elected just as the world is about to plunge into a vicious recession, and as a major player (China) is sniffing the wind in preparation for a determined campaign to gain ascendancy in the Indo Pacific.

Vicki
Vicki
June 8, 2023 3:24 pm

She’s toast. Whichever spook at the Deakin Telephony Switchboard is leaking the texts and chat logs, I suspect they are making this a slow burn. There is more to come and Gallagher has committed her narrative to being no more compromising information.

Oh please…is this for real??? Gallagher is one of the nastier of the Labor women ….and there are some real nasties!!!

jupes
jupes
June 8, 2023 3:25 pm

“It’s very common for the commonwealth to settle claims on the basis of agreed confidentiality. It’s very often in the commonwealth’s interests that there be confidentiality and often in the case of sexual harassment claims there is a desire on the part of the claimant to keep the matter confidential,” he told Nine’s Today show.

Except the payout wasn’t for a sexual harassment claim. It was a claim for not getting support from her employers.

cohenite
June 8, 2023 3:29 pm

All roads lead back to Liberal Woman Problem.

Well of course crotchless because there are no women in the alp.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 8, 2023 3:38 pm

New outrageous outrage of the day.
Someone calling a gay pedo a gay pedo.
And the usual lefty turds wanting him placed in school textbooks being blocked by parents.
School board president faces backlash for calling Harvey Milk a ‘pedophile’
Joseph Komrosky of the Temecula, California, board objected to Milk being including in school materials when making claim


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvey_Milk
Their relationship was troubled. When McKinley first began his relationship with Milk in late 1964, McKinley was 16 years old.

Oh come on
Oh come on
June 8, 2023 3:39 pm

Guess who wrote this article? I’ll give you a few hints:

The French philosopher and Christian mystic

The German theologian Jurgen Moltmann says

Miguel De Unamuno the Spanish writer

As African American theologian James Cone said

Jewish writer Elie Wiesel

Final hint for those who haven’t figured it out yet:

First Nations theologian Anne Patel Gray recovers the Aboriginal Christ: the Christ, she says, “who is to be found among the oppressed here in Australia”.

It is, of course, sTan Grant – proud Yadda Yadda man, journalist, enthusiastic undergraduate essayist and victim of the viciously racist ABC audience.

Come again, sTan? Did you say Anne Patel recovered the Aboriginal Christ? So Annie’s kind of like Australia’s Joseph Smith? Jesus came to these shores as well? That’s quite a plot twist. Has anyone told the Mormons they have brethren in Australia?

You can’t deny that Indigenous and Indigenous-adjacent scholars have been incredibly inventive over these past couple of decades. They have devised Aboriginal astronomy, Aboriginal engineering, Aboriginal science, Aboriginal mathematics…and now Aboriginal Jesus.

Sigh. Look. There is no question that, upon landing in Australia, the colonising Europeans encountered peoples whose unique cultures were rich and complex and that the colonisers didn’t understand what they found. With that said, these cultures and spiritualities were those characteristic of hunter-gatherer peoples, and are easily identifiable as being so.

Additionally, hunter-gatherers don’t develop science or engineering or astronomy or mathematics. Nowhere, ever. They never have and never will. They may develop practices, rituals, customs or skills that have attributes of these disciplines, but to describe these as examples of science, engineering, mathematics or astronomy is a post facto superimposition of these disciplines onto said practices, rituals, customs, skills etc. None of these were developed due to an awareness and application of mathematics, engineering, science or astronomy.

Likewise, the purported “recovery” of an Aboriginal Christ is a post facto superimposition of hunter-gatherer spirituality onto a religion that could never have independently arisen amongst the pre-colonial inhabitants of this continent. It is a fabrication, an ersatz Christianity. 

Here’s the thing – our shared humanity means non-Indigenous and Indigenous Australians are enormously more similar than we are different. Every human has a hunter-gatherer background whose present is profoundly and inextricably linked to their hunter-gatherer background. Our ways of living are an ongoing, constantly evolving effort to reconcile human nature, which is almost entirely an adaptation to life as a hunter-gatherer, with the steps we’ve taken to remove from our lives the limitations of the hunter-gatherer existence.

Some societies have taken more steps than others, and the reasons for why this is so are complex and contested, but no advancement of humanity is made in isolation. Every enhancement of human flourishing owes a debt to those which came before it. To push the envelope of human progress, one’s ancestors do not have to have been responsible for any anteceding developments that enabled said pushing of envelope.

And yet, some people find it necessary to concoct elaborate depictions of Indigenous Australians as masters of technologies and sciences associated with human progress long before whitey got here – even Jesus stopped by, apparently. These are laughably false and cannot withstand cursory scrutiny. However, this isn’t some harmless pastime of fiction-minded scholars. Insisting that such obvious falsehoods be believed doesn’t do anyone any good, least of all Indigenous Australians. It’s just another effort to leverage white guilt.

Leveraging white guilt is a very profitable enterprise for a small number, but it only really works by maintaining large, dependent group in perpetual need of ‘help’. It’s very useful if the ‘helpers’ view these poor, wretched people as descendants of mathematicians, scientists and engineers. It aggravates the wrong done to them.
 
No, their ancestors were never these things. They and their children could be if they wanted to, or they could find their own ways to write humanity’s story. However, this will only be possible if people like sTan and his allies stop ‘helping’ them. 

caveman
caveman
June 8, 2023 3:40 pm

Outrage as Anthony Albanese pledges $100million of taxpayers’ money for Vietnam to tackle climate change amid cost of living crisis: ‘We need help here’

For a banh mi , a beer and a texta scroll on the back of a plastic chair. Vietnamese know the art of the deal.

Cassie of Sydney
June 8, 2023 3:41 pm

“Mmyes, and Carlson also described Zelenskyy as “rat-like”. Now, what was that about anti-Semitism?”

Geez pervert apologist, you’re stretching a long bow there. Tucker a Jew hater? I don’t think so. Of course, I never hear boo from you here when various adherents of the religion of peace call Jews “apes”, “dogs”, “rodents” and so on, but of course, silly me, I remember, you think those people have “legitimate grievances”.

Zelensky, he’s not kosher. And he’s not popular in Israel.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 8, 2023 3:44 pm

None of these were developed due to an awareness and application of mathematics, engineering, science or astronomy.
Aborigines navigated by the Moon and Stars.
That’s not in dispute, I believe?

Tom
Tom
June 8, 2023 3:44 pm

Dutton has played this like a Stradivarius.

Who’d have thought. There’s a chance the poor sod who inherited the leadership of the smoking wreckage of the party his predecessors left him may — MAY — have a shred of competence that Lord Trumble and Scott Morrison (who specialised in speaking out of both sides of his mouth) did not.

There are even signs that Peter Dutton understands the Keating-esque method of doing his opponents slowly, starting with the apartheid referendum.

But you can’t be too careful so keep it to yourselves.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 8, 2023 3:50 pm

Harking back to Fraser Island, the Protector of Aborigines exiled the remnant of the Fraser Island mob to Cape Flattery, about 1400 miles north, and sent the remnant of the Cape Flattery mob to Fraser Island.

Those blokes occasionally swam the strait to Pialba and traveled by the stars back to Cape Flattery.
The Protector eventually put a stop to this by moving the immediate family to Fraser Island.

Oh come on
Oh come on
June 8, 2023 3:52 pm

Outrage as Anthony Albanese pledges $100million of taxpayers’ money for Vietnam to tackle climate change

Yes, it was amusing how the ABC tried to sell this as an ‘agreement’ rather than a cash hand-out. I guess it helped get those two anonymous Australians off of death row in Vietnam. I wonder who they were and what they’d done.

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 8, 2023 3:55 pm

Pointing a water pistol at a forest fire: NZ crime rates out of control

OLIVER HARTWICH
The Australian

Businesses typically avoid taking a stance on contentious political matters, particularly during election campaigns. That makes this week’s media release from New Zealand’s Foodstuffs North Island quite remarkable.

But before we get to its release, we may need to explain Foodstuffs to Australian readers. The company is New Zealand’s largest retailer. It is a cooperative, operating under the brands New World, PAK’nSAVE, Four Square, Gilmours and Liquorland. Think of Coles, IGA and Dan Murphy’s combined.

In their media statement, Foodstuffs North Island did not mince their words on the state of retail crime in New Zealand. And their numbers are startling. They reported a 38 per cent increase in reported incidents of retail crime between February and April 2023 compared to the same period last year.

Incidents such as burglary, assault, robbery, and other aggressive, violent, and threatening behaviour are up 36 per cent for the same quarter, year on year. Shoplifting was up even higher – 57 per cent over the past 12 months.

“Our grocers have never seen retail crime at these levels. It’s an extremely concerning trend, and it’s unacceptable,” said Foodstuffs’ chief executive Chris Quin.

And it is not just Foodstuffs. Rising crime in New Zealand is an issue for society at large. And if the cost-of-living crisis were not dominating New Zealand politics as much as it is, crime would be the number one issue in this year’s election.

New Zealand used to be a peaceful country in which people had little reason to be concerned about crime. As recently as 2020, about one in eight New Zealand households did not lock their properties. Almost half of New Zealanders did not have locks on their windows, and about the same number did not lock their garages when their cars were parked inside.

New Zealanders felt safe back then. But things have changed dramatically, and not for the better.

New Zealanders believe that crime is a bigger issue now than five years ago, as per a recent poll for the New Zealand Herald. Two-thirds of Kiwis are more concerned that they may be a victim of crime today than they were five years ago. Only five per cent stated they were less worried about crime.

And no wonder: The data underlines that it is not just a matter of perception.

In the 2022 calendar year, police recorded 516 ram raids. That is when offenders drive stolen vehicles into stores to rob them – often not gaining more than petty cash and a few cigarettes.

Among the offenders identified, only 12 per cent were adults. The majority were teenagers, and ten per cent were even younger than 13 years.

Membership of gangs also seems to have increased. In 2016, there were 4,420 gang members on the police National Gang List, which now stands at 8,875. Every year, that list has grown by about 1,000 gang members. That said, nobody has an accurate figure on gang membership. It is essentially a list the police maintain and populate themselves, but at least it indicates that organised crime is not a marginal feature in New Zealand.

The organised nature of crime is also reflected in the Foodstuffs experience. “The trend we’re increasingly seeing is professional criminals who’re stealing brand-specific goods to order,” said Chris Quin. “That’s not something we’ve seen before at these levels.”

Crime Stoppers, an independent charity that reports anonymous information to police, has launched a campaign urging people to report any suspicious activity related to ram raids.

The government’s response to this crisis leaves much to be desired. Hiring an extra 1,800 police has not substantially increased the visibility of law enforcement in New Zealand cities. Apart from that, the government’s main policy for dealing with retail crime has been a program subsidising fog cannons* for shops and supermarkets.

While this may be a novel approach to deter retail crime, it remains a reactive measure that does little to address the root causes of the problem. It might make for good headlines, but it does little to quell the flames. It is akin to trying to put out a forest fire with a water pistol.

More seriously, it appears the government has taken its eyes off the ball regarding crime and law enforcement. Indeed, statistics paint a stark picture of the crime situation in New Zealand under its Labour-led government.

Between 2017 and 2022, reported victims of crime increased by 12 per cent. This is a significant rise that underscores the growing concern among New Zealanders about their safety and security.

However, while the number of reported victims has been on the rise, the number of offenders arrested and convicted has been on a downward trend.

Arrests have decreased by 25 per cent, and convictions have fallen by 26 per cent over the same period. This suggests a widening gap between the number of crimes committed and the number of criminals brought to justice.

The number of people imprisoned has also seen a significant decrease, down by 45 per cent. This startling figure raises questions about the criminal justice system’s effectiveness in deterring crime.

The situation becomes even more concerning when we look at the changes in reported crimes over the same period. Reported crime has surged by 33 per cent, yet police actions have decreased by 26 per cent. Convictions have also fallen by 25 per cent, and prison sentences have dropped by 38 per cent.

These figures indicate a troubling trend. As crime rates rise, the response from the criminal justice system appears to be flagging.

The implications of these trends for New Zealand society are profound. The rise in crime and decreased arrests, convictions, and imprisonments contribute to a growing sense of lawlessness.

This is not the New Zealand anyone knew, a country that has long prided itself on its safety and tranquillity.

The government’s reactive measures, such as the fog cannon program, are insufficient. They may provide temporary relief but do not address the root causes of the crime wave.

New Zealand would need a different, proactive approach to crime prevention. This includes addressing social issues contributing to crime, such as poor education attendance and attainment.

The government should also reassess its approach to law enforcement. The decrease in police actions, despite the increase in reported crime, is a worrying trend. Where criminals do not need to fear being brought to justice, they will continue their activities.

In its recent media release, Foodstuffs has expressed a plea for assistance. And perhaps the path from New Zealand to San Francisco-style crime levels is shorter than one might have thought.

That is a concern for New Zealanders. And it should be a massive headache for the government this election year.

Dr Oliver Hartwich is the Executive Director of The New Zealand Initiative

Note: a ‘’fog cannon” A Fog Cannon machine fills a room with dense security fog, preventing the intruder from seeing anything.

Oh come on
Oh come on
June 8, 2023 3:56 pm

are, not were. Presumably they haven’t died in the interim. If they have, we should ask for our $105 million back.

Imagine negotiating that ‘agreement’. I bet our diplomats drove a hard bargain. No way will we provide anything less than a 9 figure payment.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 8, 2023 4:00 pm

m0ntysays:
June 8, 2023 at 2:22 pm
Just watched Tucker on Twatter – some classic lines. On Lindsey Graham and sweaty rat faced olive drab tracksuit man

Mmyes, and Carlson also described Zelenskyy as “rat-like”. Now, what was that about anti-Semitism?

The fat fascist anti-Semitic fool decrees that “rat” means “Jew”, thus proving that he holds unsavoury images in his thick head.

cohenite
June 8, 2023 4:02 pm

Aborigines navigated by the Moon and Stars.
That’s not in dispute, I believe?

Except when it was cloudy you crotchless cretin. Then they just followed their piss tracks.

Real Deal
Real Deal
June 8, 2023 4:02 pm
Muddy
Muddy
June 8, 2023 4:03 pm

What cannot be redefined will be set aflame until all that remains is the ashes of equity…

How They Fought – Indigenous Tactics and Weaponry of Australia’s Frontier Wars

The history of Australia’s Frontier Wars is becoming a hot topic for debate and research. It is now part of our national educational syllabus. However, there are very few books available that explain, in detail, the modes of warfare First Australians applied during the Frontier Wars.

How they Fought is written as an introductory guidebook. It is broken into chapters covering organisation, strategies, weaponry, and defences. The book considers both traditional practices and technological and tactical adaptations. To make this complex topic more accessible, How they Fought includes numerous tables, figures and diagrams that illustrate and summarize the contents.
Industry Reviews

This is an outstanding book: the fruit of years of prodigious research. It will profoundly influence the way we think about Australia’s Frontier Wars and indeed about the whole history of relations between the First Nations and the European settlers … Destined to be an instant classic. – Professor Henry Reynolds, author of Other Side of the Frontier, Forgotten War and Why Weren’t We Told?

This is one of the first times that a historian has tried to look at how Aboriginal people resisted the white settler’s invasion … Kerkhove has been assiduous in citing wide-ranging examples … a thorough work that puts paid to the idea that Aboriginal Australians merely wilted in the face of modern firearms and logistics. – Dr Timothy Bottoms, author of Conspiracy of Silence.

How They Fought is at the forefront of a new military history of resistance warfare and will be an important resource for Australians to truly comprehend the most significant conflict of their history, the Australian Wars. – Dr Stephen Gapps, author of The Sydney Wars and Gudyarra: The First Wiradyuri War.

An important and much-needed study — the first of its kind and hopefully not the last. – Dr Nicholas Clements, author of The Black War and Tongerlongeter.

How They Fought reflects the high quality of research and interpretation that is present in Ray Kerkhove’s established works. There is no doubt that its unique depth will result in it becoming a seminal work. – Patrick Collins, author of Goodbye Bussamarai.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 8, 2023 4:03 pm

All roads lead back to Liberal Woman Problem.

All roads lead back to Grandpa Ed Cletus-Case being a devoted Labor Party shill. Do they pay you Grandpa, or do you do it for lurrrrrve?

Vicki
Vicki
June 8, 2023 4:05 pm

You won’t see this in any of the MSM, but the last bastion of evidence for any sort of efficacy of the mRNA vaccines has been demolished in an article in research gate.net “The Simpson Paradox in the correlation between excess mortality & Covid injections.”

Abstract
Background: Conflicting findings in correlation studies between COVID-19 injections and excess deaths have been published. Negative correlations with 2021 data appear to justify the official claim that COVID-19 injections reduce illness and death and therefore should be prioritized for vulnerable elderly (over-75s) Australians. This claim needs to be reviewed including 2022 data. Method: Simpson’s Paradox is illustrated to explain how the negative correlations, supporting injection effectiveness can come from 2021 data, while positive correlations, suggesting injection ineffectiveness, have come from inclusion of 2022 data. Excess deaths of Australian elderly in the COVID pandemic are analysed in detail for their statistical significance. Results: Negative correlations from 2021 data are refuted in this paper as false causality, because the results have insufficient temporal separation between cause and effect. Strong positive correlation (69 to 74 percent) in Australian data is confirmed when the effects of excess mortality are lagged optimally by 21 weeks after COVID-19 injections [1]. A strong statistical signal (2.5 standard deviations) is shown in this paper in the mortality of elderly Australians, who suffered the greatest relative harm from the injections, even when adjusted for age-dependent high expected mortality. Conclusions: Earlier epidemiological evidence that COVID injections reduce illness and death is now methodologically invalidated, and the claim that the injections are beneficial for the vulnerable is refuted. The injections explain the mystery of significant numbers of non-COVID excess deaths. The Australian pandemic is shown to be iatrogenic particularly for the elderly, who have suffered disproportionate harm. Deliberately ignoring this clear evidence is tantamount to iatrogenic geronticide.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 8, 2023 4:07 pm

Ed Casesays:
June 8, 2023 at 3:09 pm
Fill us in on what happened on both mornings …

Here’s a guess, irish:
Monday morning:
Generic female: WTF was that all about?
Some rando: I’m deeply sorry, I just thought I’d slip you a length while you were asleep.
Look, my girlfriend is moving to Sydney next week, how’d you like to take her spot on the mound?
GF: Well, okeydoke.
SR: That’s the spirit, see you at work tomorrow.
Whaddya reckon, pretty close to the Truth?

Nah, just standard Grandpa Ed Cletus-Case sexual fantasy,

shatterzzz
June 8, 2023 4:08 pm

No, their ancestors were never these things. They and their children could be if they wanted to, or they could find their own ways to write humanity’s story. However, this will only be possible if people like sTan and his allies stop ‘helping’ them.

Credit where credit is due .. p..leeze ..! .. any “nation” that had no, known, written language but was proficient in the use of apostrophes is capable of any.. bloody .. thing .. I tellz ya!

Rabz
June 8, 2023 4:10 pm

Carlson also described Zelenskyy as “rat-like”. Now, what was that about anti-Semitism?

mUttles, your prejudices are showin’. Again.

Your beloved Zelenskyy does look like a rodent, as does your beloved Blackout Bowen.

Deal with it, you dunce.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 8, 2023 4:13 pm

cohenitesays:
June 8, 2023 at 3:29 pm
All roads lead back to Liberal Woman Problem.

Well of course crotchless because there are no women in the alp.

Except for the ones subjected to harassment, mentioned by La Tingle and Plibbers on election night?

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 8, 2023 4:20 pm

Ed Casesays:
June 8, 2023 at 3:44 pm
None of these were developed due to an awareness and application of mathematics, engineering, science or astronomy.
Aborigines navigated by the Moon and Stars.
That’s not in dispute, I believe?

So did other hunter-gatherer societies. Knowledge of the seasons and weather were essential to survival as hunter-gatherers. That is not the same as astronomy or meteorology (as it used to be before the Gerbil Worming superstition took it over).

Stick to shilling for Labor, Grandpa, you have already made a complete fool of yourself there, so you can’t sink any lower.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 8, 2023 4:22 pm

Ed Casesays:
June 8, 2023 at 3:50 pm
Harking back to Fraser Island, the Protector of Aborigines exiled the remnant of the Fraser Island mob to Cape Flattery, about 1400 miles north, and sent the remnant of the Cape Flattery mob to Fraser Island.

Those blokes occasionally swam the strait to Pialba and traveled by the stars back to Cape Flattery.

“Traveled by the stars”: Keep the big wet to your right and the big hills to your left”.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 8, 2023 4:23 pm

Ed October, at 3.50:

the Protector of Aborigines exiled the remnant of the Fraser Island mob to Cape Flattery,

No.

about 1400 miles north,

Also no. It’s about 1900km, and 1400 miles is 2,240km.

and sent the remnant of the Cape Flattery mob to Fraser Island.

Aaaand no.

Those blokes occasionally swam the strait to Pialba and traveled by the stars back to Cape Flattery.

Yeah righto. No.

The Protector eventually put a stop to this by moving the immediate family to Fraser Island.

This is actually correct. Oh, hang on. No.

Dot
Dot
June 8, 2023 4:24 pm

Trump’s new ad is pretty lit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IOk4VyWC5U

TRUMP Campaign releases new ad, “Wolves”

Rabz
June 8, 2023 4:28 pm

moving the immediate family to Fraser Island

Which was like outrageously outrageous, man – what with the island being named after Malcolm Fraser, a bad dude who sacked St Gough as Governor General on the orders of the CIA, man.

calli
calli
June 8, 2023 4:29 pm

Cats may remember there was a “thing” in the ceiling here…supposedly a rat. *idea*. Put Ratsak in the roof space, I told the Beloved. It will eat it and leave. That’s what the advertising says.

It has not left. Well, it’s life has left…its miasma remains. And now I have the family about to arrive. 🙁

calli
calli
June 8, 2023 4:30 pm

This corpse is as stinky as the Brittney payout. Just so you get the drift.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 8, 2023 4:32 pm

Knuckle Dragger

Are you hinting that Ed-Mong, may, in actual fact, be serially incorrect on every assertion he made in his last bout of Vogon history?

….

“Traveled by the stars”: Keep the big wet to your right and the big hills to your left”.

But the authorities were evil, once the relocated them they blindfolded them and spun them around 3 times before letting them go.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 8, 2023 4:35 pm

“It’s very common for the commonwealth to settle claims on the basis of agreed confidentiality. It’s very often in the commonwealth’s interests that there be confidentiality and often in the case of sexual harassment claims there is a desire on the part of the claimant to keep the matter confidential“

Not sure that it’s that common to threaten the most relevant respondent witness in the mediation process to not farking attend.

bespoke
bespoke
June 8, 2023 4:36 pm

It has not left. Well, it’s life has left…its miasma remains. And now I have the family about to arrive

Chuckle!¡!!!

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
June 8, 2023 4:38 pm

It has not left. Well, it’s life has left…its miasma remains.

Simply push the rat remain across the ceiling with a broom, rolled up newspaper or the latest Federal budget and let it said ex-rat settle into a wall cavity of the guest bedroom.

Follow me for more Homemaker tips.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
June 8, 2023 4:39 pm

Apologies for the poor grammar. Will try to turnip better next thyme.

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 8, 2023 4:40 pm

Sure right yes.

The best way of navigating by the moon is don’t.

calli
calli
June 8, 2023 4:43 pm

The best way of navigating by the moon is don’t.

😀

cohenite
June 8, 2023 4:45 pm

What cannot be redefined will be set aflame until all that remains is the ashes of equity…

How They Fought – Indigenous Tactics and Weaponry of Australia’s Frontier Wars

Mighty warriors. Still, it’s surprising that about half a million of these supreme humans couldn’t deal with a few convicts and the rum corps.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
June 8, 2023 4:50 pm

Outrage as Anthony Albanese pledges $100million of taxpayers’ money for Vietnam to tackle climate change amid cost of living crisis: ‘We need help here’

Yes, and by coincidence, two Australian ‘druggies’ who were on death row in Vietnam have now avoided the death penalty. Tennis Elbow at work with your our tax dollars. Of course, the 100 million kangaroo dollars had nothing to do with it.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
June 8, 2023 4:51 pm

Really enjoying the Year of Living Knickerlessly.
Am up to the part where the PM and the Finance Minister enter the scene, flanked by the AG ‘nothing to see here, all bog standard’. Surely the ghost of Senator Kitching must make an appearance soon.

But How will Wilko respond to her journo reputation mauling?
Will the Wokleys demand their award back?
Can Baz Lehrmann get his hands on Missy Higgins Taxpayer monies?

Tune in tomorrow, same woke time, same woke channel!

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 8, 2023 4:52 pm

Mr Albanese flatly denied coordinating with Ms Higgins to The Australian, and told reporters he had full confidence Senator Gallagher had acted appropriately.

Mole:

Do I detect a whiff of ” didnt MEET her morphing to “I did speak to her/her Svengali”..

Why, yes.
Yes, I think you do.

The text messages exposed by The Australian showed Mr Sharaz telling Ms Higgins the Labor leader had inserted himself in the story a month after it became public.

“So Albo gave me his number – he just came in to do the breakfast show – and says if you meet with Scomo (Scott Morrison) to let him know and he’ll fly to Canberra to be there if you want to meet with him too,” Mr Sharaz wrote on April 16, 2021.

Six days later, Mr Sharaz confirmed a meeting with Mr Albanese.

“Friday 9am with Albo locked in at CPO. Details to come,” he said in a text, before writing a separate message confirming Ms Plibersek would also be there.

A whiff. A palpable whiff.

Looks like Uncle Luigi is going to have to fall back on the classic Never Happened Defence: “Mr Sharaz is a lying liar who was making stuff up just to impress Brinny”.

Or keep digging.

calli
calli
June 8, 2023 4:55 pm

Fair Shake – the bugger is unreachable (like a low intelligence Green).

It could have fled this mortal coil over the laundry…or the Beloved’s office. Noooooo! It carked it over my studio, the beast. Which, for ease of checking up on culinary extravaganzas (and potential disasters) I had built adjacent to the kitchen.

Memento mori.

Pogria
Pogria
June 8, 2023 4:55 pm

Calli,
I feel for you. Also, Sod’s Law says that maggots will drop from the ceiling after every family member has arrived. Then, the day they are all set to leave, monster blowies will ruin your farewell. 😀
I speak from experience.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 8, 2023 4:56 pm

Yes, and by coincidence, two Australian ‘druggies’ who were on death row in Vietnam have now avoided the death penalty. Tennis Elbow at work with your our tax dollars.

A precedent for an exciting new income stream for Don’t Care pseudo governments around the globe.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 8, 2023 4:58 pm

Rabzsays:

June 8, 2023 at 1:58 pm

There is no possible justification or excuse for Mz Hoggins receiving a $3 million payout from taxpayers.

The End.

I think there are many people who would be thinking, “Even if she was roped … which would be bad … but $3 million? Really?”

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
June 8, 2023 4:59 pm

Calli, Fair Shake – the bugger is unreachable (like a low intelligence Green).

The simple solution is to move into a hotel and invite your local arsonist in (get a quote first).

Cassie of Sydney
June 8, 2023 5:02 pm

“Even if she was roped “

She wasn’t roped.

The End.

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 8, 2023 5:06 pm

The strange imaginary world of Prince Hazza:

The big question about Prince Harry’s court case, the one that’s keeping me awake at night, is: where’s he staying? Frogmore has been repossessed. The Premier Inn on Fleet Street is full. There are a few rooms up the road in Smithfield, but Smithfield is a meat market where they used to burn people at the stake. Bad vibes.

Charles has left the country and if Camilla is roasting a fatted calf, it’s probably to drop on Harry from a great height. And while it would be really, properly funny if William and Kate were making up the “spare” room, somehow I doubt it. Which leaves Royal Lodge, where hopefully he and Prince Andrew are arguing about epaulettes and who walks into dinner first.

And so we embark on day two of Harry v the world. To recap so far, we’ve learnt that he expects to be called Your Royal Highness at first instance, and Prince Harry thereafter, so he’s definitely over the whole royal thing and living a life of quiet civilian contentment in California.

It’s not often that Call Me HRH makes me laugh, but then I read his witness statement. I didn’t have to read very much, which was a relief, because it’s 25,000 words and 49 pages. The best bit is right at the top, in the second sentence, which I will summarise as follows: everything in his statement is true, except for the bits that come from others, which he thinks are true but might not be. Take that, m’Lud.

Call Me is being cross-examined by Andrew Green KC, who has been a silk for 13 years. Green is described by the Legal 500 as a man with a superb mind, one of the most formidable cross-examiners at the Bar, a lawyer who you would definitely want on your side and – my personal favourite – “a beast in court”.

Oh Harry, Harry, with your D in geography and your California mumble-speak, all the healing crystals in the world can’t help you now. When recollections vary this time, it isn’t Oprah who decides, it’s a judge. What could possibly go wrong?

Does he have enough self-awareness to think, “What have I done?” or is it swamped by an overblown sense of paranoid entitlement? One article, Call Me insists, was based on private information that wasn’t publicly known and therefore must have been discovered by nefarious means. But maybe Mystic Meg was having a good day, Harry? Did you consider that? You didn’t? Why not? Or maybe, as it turns out, the information was contained in a press release issued by Clarence House. Oh.

His memoir contradicted one of his claims and, on another of his theories, he conceded that he had “little to go on”. Obviously in such circumstances you make it up, or, as Green put it: “Are we not, Prince Harry, in the realms of total speculation?”

That is, by the by, as elegant a summing up of everything the Sussexes have alleged for the past five years as I can imagine.

An early contender for best moment of the trial could be yet another story that Harry said could only have been obtained by illegal means. Alas, it turned out he had said it himself. Oh. A suspicious article about his 18th birthday, a mere two decades ago, came from an interview he gave to the Press Association. Oh.

Call Me informs us in his witness statement that he is fifth in line to the throne, which is interesting. He declares that “our country” – “our” country, Harry? Really? – “is judged globally by the state of our press and our government, both of which I believe are at rock bottom,” which is also interesting. I long to hear more of his insights on why democracies fail, and perhaps he’ll expand on them one day, when he’s finished feeding the chickens, if someone pays him enough.

He has such love and respect for “our country” and its institutions that he didn’t even bother to turn up for his first day in court. Too busy. Too important. The little people can wait and that includes you, Mr Justice Fancourt, who confined himself to expressing surprise at the turn of events.

Did no one explain to Call Me that in court, feelings don’t trump facts? He’s spent a fortune getting in touch with his own, so maybe he struggles to grasp that, in this arena, they don’t matter. Hunches are not proof. There is no “my truth”, just “the truth”.

Flying in from California and jumbling together an ex who dumped you 20 years ago with the state of the UK government is bonkers. His lawyer is David Sherborne KC, a lavishly tanned man with the air of one well pleased with his hairdresser. He leads the best legal team that money can buy, but he’s paid to offer advice and carry out Harry’s instructions, not to save him from himself. That’s what family and friends are for. Anyone could have predicted this. Anyone who loves him would surely have said: “Don’t do it.”

Is Charles sitting in his Romanian potting shed, or wherever he is, with his head in his hands? His second son is under oath at the High Court, talking about what happened in a Spearmint Rhino strip club in 2006.

It’s not a great look. And where’s Meghan? Childcare issues? Keeping her own brand clean? Or is it that the only royal who she calculated could enhance her image, Queen Elizabeth, is dead, so frankly why bother with the jet lag?

A million pounds says that if he wins we get a syrupy statement from them both. Maybe he’ll win, maybe he won’t, the world keeps turning. Was it worth all the millions of pounds and hours of Zoom calls with his lawyers when he could have been playing with his children? Does Charles accept any share of the blame for how his son turned out? And ye gods, what must William make of the gory showdown in EC4? It’s enough to bring even Prince Andrew out in a cold sweat.

Harry, Call Me HRH, the prince of privacy, is nursing grudges from his school days instead of living his best life in sunny California.

“I think he’d prefer to have a quiet family life,” Harry said of a former aide who will not be in the witness box giving evidence on his behalf. There’s a lesson for him there.

The Times

calli
calli
June 8, 2023 5:07 pm

The upshot of all these “revelations” is this:

All the players were more than comfortable having a young man ruined and imprisoned for political gain.

These things rule over us and lecture us. Let that sink in.

duncanm
duncanm
June 8, 2023 5:08 pm

Tomsays:
June 8, 2023 at 1:32 pm
“First Nations Aviators.”

Hilarious.

Don’t tell me: it was part of the dreamtime — 40,000 years ago in Arnhem Land. Right?

https://www.sbs.com.au/nitv/article/the-first-inventors-premieres-on-nitv/sdkjkq46n

The First Inventors: A ground-breaking documentary series that aims to rewrite Australian history

From ancient superhighways for trade, long distance communication systems using secret languages engraved into message sticks, and unique social systems built to maintain genetic diversity

..etc

So there was written language.. its just ‘secret’, mkay.

Vicki
Vicki
June 8, 2023 5:08 pm

None of these were developed due to an awareness and application of mathematics, engineering, science or astronomy.
Ed: Aborigines navigated by the Moon and Stars.
That’s not in dispute, I believe?

They were masters of their own country – by which I mean the area that a clan group had occupied for a very long time. Whilst such associations, and the skills developed, may have declined since pre-Settlement, they continued to have the ability to read the landscape and relate to the countryside in ways that Europeans could not.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 8, 2023 5:09 pm

“It’s very common for the commonwealth to settle claims on the basis of agreed confidentiality. It’s very often in the commonwealth’s interests that there be confidentiality and often in the case of sexual harassment claims there is a desire on the part of the claimant to keep the matter confidential,” he (Dreyfus) told Nine’s Today show.

Err, it wasn’t a sexual harrassment claim.
It was a claim for not making her report an alleged incident which she had said she didn’t want to report.
And not being … supportive.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 8, 2023 5:09 pm

Snap jupes at 3:25.

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
June 8, 2023 5:10 pm

Johnny Rotten says:
June 8, 2023 at 4:50 pm
Outrage as Anthony Albanese pledges $100million of taxpayers’ money for Vietnam to tackle climate change amid cost of living crisis: ‘We need help here’

Yes, and by coincidence, two Australian ‘druggies’ who were on death row in Vietnam have now avoided the death penalty. Tennis Elbow at work with your our tax dollars. Of course, the 100 million kangaroo dollars had nothing to do with it.

50 mil per (new) vote for Labor. Cheap as …. I despair.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 8, 2023 5:10 pm

Brittany has all the hallmarks of a classic scandal for the Liars. Just when you think it can’t get any worse for them – it does. Albo will have to offer up a head in a few days to get it off the front page.

Roger
Roger
June 8, 2023 5:12 pm

All the players were more than comfortable having a young man ruined and imprisoned for political gain.

Including Morrison.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 8, 2023 5:13 pm

cohenitesays:
June 8, 2023 at 4:45 pm
What cannot be redefined will be set aflame until all that remains is the ashes of equity…

How They Fought – Indigenous Tactics and Weaponry of Australia’s Frontier Wars

Mighty warriors. Still, it’s surprising that about half a million of these supreme humans couldn’t deal with a few convicts and the rum corps.

Neither could they destroy isolated farms and stations, even with numerical superiority. Sad, low energy.

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