Open Thread – Tues 27 June 2023


The Gleaners, Jean-François Millet,1857

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Crossie
Crossie
June 27, 2023 12:34 am

Where is everybody?

Bruce in WA
June 27, 2023 12:38 am

I’m right here … behind you, but still claiming first, ‘cos I feel like it!

Bruce in WA
June 27, 2023 12:44 am

It’s sorta creepy here. Just me … and the shadows. They pulse, slowly, like someone breathing … heavily. There seems to be something moving — in the shadows I mean. It’s just out of sight. Tantalising. So frustrating, I can almost see it. Wait. It’s redefining, clearing.

OMG!! … it’s ———

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
June 27, 2023 1:08 am

I’m here, Bruce.
Drop into my place sometime.

Bruce in WA
June 27, 2023 1:09 am

Just going through some photos from our last holiday, earlier this year.

Some things just stand out in your memory.

Bruce in WA
June 27, 2023 1:10 am

Good stuff, Wally. Will do. Should I bring a bottle?

Bruce in WA
June 27, 2023 1:19 am

Oh well, no one around. Have to drink the bottle myself. Nice Cabernet Sauvignon/Cabernet Franc. Just suits the cold weather.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
June 27, 2023 1:21 am

Yeah, go on then. Any lively red. And I’ll send you off with a few cartons….. my brother’s Cab and Chardonnay from the late 20-teens, made with no marketing plan, stacked up and gathering dust. I’ve just gladwrapped a few pallets for export, plenty left over.
One thing I need to get done is putting another chimney on the pizza oven, and getting the damp out of it. Standing tradition (before the septic truck knocked the chimney off) was open house, pizza for all comers, every saturday closest to the full moon.

Bruce in WA
June 27, 2023 1:26 am

Are you a Sandgroper, Wally?

Bruce in WA
June 27, 2023 1:31 am

PS: Make my pizza a thin crust Margherita, please, but with LOTS of furry fish and chilli flakes. Ta.

Bruce in WA
June 27, 2023 1:50 am

‘Night. all.

JC
JC
June 27, 2023 2:32 am

Question .

Does every European and American woman 25 years plus have a tattoo? Perhaps born with tats

JC
JC
June 27, 2023 2:58 am

OMG!! … it’s ———

Martie Tittsoff, haunting the place drunk as a skunk every night.

win
win
June 27, 2023 3:41 am

Way back in the cross roads of life my father decided to buy himself a block of land out in Pokolbin grow a few grapes donate to to the locals and get some of the wine back and have himself nice little wine collection. So using high school maths he mapped out his curved rows and thefamily forgathed at a local plot during pruning to get cuttings. Very quckly a SOS was sent and rooted cuttings appeared forthwith and were professionally planted apart from the Muscats which were a blot on the ordered landscape to this day. Needless to say the word got out due to some dedicated marketing by a Mr T and farm land and old vineyards became a sea of new vines and it was “‘make your own sport ” but plenty of advise and yeast provided. And believe it or not some gold medals were produced from our tin shed winery. Only the memories and some over sulphated bottles of white remain.

Tom
Tom
June 27, 2023 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
June 27, 2023 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
June 27, 2023 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
June 27, 2023 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
June 27, 2023 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
June 27, 2023 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
June 27, 2023 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
June 27, 2023 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
June 27, 2023 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
June 27, 2023 4:10 am
Tom
Tom
June 27, 2023 4:11 am
Tom
Tom
June 27, 2023 4:12 am
Tom
Tom
June 27, 2023 4:13 am
Mark from Melbourne
Mark from Melbourne
June 27, 2023 4:19 am

Thanks Tom

Gabor
Gabor
June 27, 2023 4:44 am

Most of today’s cartoons had the same theme.
Is this obsession with Putin falling because the cartoonists had to draw their work before events actually enfolded, or was it just wishful thinking on their part, like that of Monty?

And, will they apologise for getting it so wrong?

Gabor
Gabor
June 27, 2023 4:47 am

enfoldedfully Evolved it should be, sorry.
Not blaming autocorrect, don’t have one.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
June 27, 2023 5:03 am

Thanks again Tom,

miltonf
miltonf
June 27, 2023 5:13 am

Most of today’s cartoons had the same theme.
Is this obsession with Putin falling because the cartoonists had to draw their work before events actually enfolded, or was it just wishful thinking on their part, like that of Monty?

just flunkies of the Washington war machine

calli
calli
June 27, 2023 5:28 am

Greetings from Padstow.

We left Bath this morning and zoomed down to Glastonbury. All packed up, thankfully, though the old town is like Nimbin on steroids. Very, very fragrant. I wanted to view the Abbey ruins, and was met by an elderly “Merlin” at the entrance.

The Abbey is lovely in its decrepitude, soaring arches to an empty sky amid soft, green turf. Of all the ruins I have viewed around the world, this one is replete with memory. Perhaps it’s the strong mix of stone and ever-renewing green that does the trick. The place swirls with legends…Joseph of Aremethia, the Grail, Arthur and Guinevere. And then there’s the Tor and St Michael’s Tower, overlooking the “Summer Country”, the Isle of Avalon.

And so on, across northern Devonshire to the coast and down the Atlantic Highway, an “A” road that often shrinks to a single lane through the little villages. A motorist’s delight, and fortunately I’m married to one. 😀

calli
calli
June 27, 2023 5:35 am

Another observation about the ruined abbey…an overwhelming sadness about the wickedness of kings and their servants.

And in the middle of all of it the conviction that nothing, no work in the service of the Almighty is ever lost. It will return, when all things are made new once more.

Damon
Damon
June 27, 2023 5:49 am

For Dover, and anyone else interested. I have an artwork entitled ‘Poppies’. It was purchased in Perth (WA) in early 1980s, and is clearly reminiscent of Flanders. It is signed Z. Gryfita. Does anyone have any information about the artist? Thanks

rosie
rosie
June 27, 2023 6:00 am

Today’s big question is, do the Inuit feed their children breakfast?

calli
calli
June 27, 2023 6:05 am

Sugar Frosties, rosie.

rosie
rosie
June 27, 2023 6:16 am

I think I bought a packet of Sugar Frosties the first time I visited the UK.
We never had them as children but I’d seen the ads and l obviously, they worked.

bespoke
bespoke
June 27, 2023 6:24 am
calli
calli
June 27, 2023 6:24 am

Shoog was the “Eskimo Derg”, the cute trademark for the product (I’m talking the 70’s).

I do breakfast, no lunch and then dinner. Tonight it was moulles marinère at a restaurant at the Padstow harbour.

Cute place, but like most Cornish coastal towns, you need to be prepared to walk up hill and down dale. Or be lazy and pay for parking down by the quay. Laziness won tonight. Tomorrow it’s off to Land’s End and the Lizard and a mooch around Penzance.

I will report any pirate sightings.

rosie
rosie
June 27, 2023 6:27 am

I’ve never really ventured out of London in the UK, just day trips to Bath and Oxford, or was it Cambridge?
You are encouraging me Calli though perhaps 2025. I’m going to make a trip to Ireland mid 2024, I’ve a hankering to visit Leitrim, where my mother’s mother’s mother came from, she made the trip to Tasmania as a twenty year old with her seventeen year old sister who died shortly after they reached Sydney, they weren’t famine refugees as it was in the 1880s.
There are bits of Ireland of family interest too. A work house in County Cavan for one.
I’ve got English ancestors from Cheshire and the Channel Islands so that can be my excuse.

rosie
rosie
June 27, 2023 6:32 am

Must be a different product, I bought the ones with the tiger.
I looked them up
‘Sugar Frosted Flakes’ with Tony the Tiger

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 27, 2023 6:47 am

Garrison’s another one to link the Wagner bloke and Colonel Kurtz.

Black Ball
Black Ball
June 27, 2023 6:58 am

Hun with Shannon Deery reporting:

Victorian Opposition Leader John Pesutto will be forced to personally fund his legal ­defence against a defamation action by expelled MP Moira Deeming.

The Victorian Liberal Party has ruled out funding the case, which sources estimate could cost up to $1m to defend.

While defamation proceedings have not yet been lodged, Mr Pesutto has already engaged lawyers to respond to two concerns notices sent by Mrs Deeming’s legal team. A third is also expected to be sent.

Senior Liberal sources said the party’s powerful administrative committee had determined it would not fund the case. Some rank-and-file members had raised concerns about party funds being used to pay for Mr Pesutto’s defence.

“Among the rank and file, Moira actually has more support than John,” one Liberal said.

Ms Deeming flagged defamation proceedings ahead of her expulsion from the parliamentary party.

It followed a campaign by Mr Pesutto to expel her, which began after she attended a Let Women Speak rally on the steps of Parliament House in March. Soon after, he compiled a 15-page dossier of evidence, accusing her of having Nazi links and “conducting activities in a manner likely to bring discredit on the parliament or the parliamentary party”.

Ms Deeming beat the initial expulsion move, negotiating a nine-month suspension instead. She was ultimately expelled when she issued an initial defamation concerns notice against Mr Pesutto.

There have been no moves to expel her from the wider Liberal Party, with sources saying any such motion would fail.

Lawyers for Mr Pesutto have indicated they will rely on a truth defence. “In the event that your client commences proceedings, Mr Pesutto ­intends to vigorously defend the claim, including on the basis that the meanings in fact conveyed by the motion are substantially true,” they wrote to Ms Deeming’s lawyers this week.

“We are instructed to make clear that our client makes no apologies for taking a strong stance against your client’s failure to dissociate herself unequivocally from and to condemn individuals with known links to neo-Nazis.”

Liberal figures are understood to be concerned about Mr Pesutto’s “doubling down” and the prospect of a long and public court battle.

Senior lawyers say the actions could take up to two years to move their way through the courts, and could force the leader and his staff to disclose correspondence including text messages and emails.

rosie
rosie
June 27, 2023 7:06 am

Prosecutto is a fool.

Beertruk
June 27, 2023 7:07 am
rosie
rosie
June 27, 2023 7:07 am
132andBush
132andBush
June 27, 2023 7:08 am

You gotta be shittin me

For a slightly lighthearted look at some serious issues.
Interesting end stay assembly @9:40 ish and some good advice right at the end.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 27, 2023 7:10 am

Prosecutto is a fool.

He certainly appears to be one of the ‘respeck mah authoritah’ types, swanning about like a minor satrap in the little dogs’ yard and refusing to countenance any suggestion he might be wrong.

A peacetime general.

rosie
rosie
June 27, 2023 7:10 am
bons
bons
June 27, 2023 7:13 am

Pesutto must be shattered that his mentor Andrews hasn’t stepped up with the defence money. After all the fight against Nazis crosses party lines.
This thing is smelly. He has proven himself to be an insanely obdurate obsessive, but would he risk the house on this idiocy? There has got to be yet to be revealed dimensions to this absurdity.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 27, 2023 7:16 am

Remarkably little content coming from the ‘Aussie Cossack’ – or his groupies, who were previously quite vocal on various European matters.

JC
JC
June 27, 2023 7:17 am

As we’re heading the Portugal shortly I did a quick read on Portugal’s Salazar dictatorship years

I always thought he was a bad guy, only because that’s what I was told over the years. That’s no the case at all .

Hugh
Hugh
June 27, 2023 7:18 am

The moral here is do not stand between a woman and her food.

Hugh
Hugh
June 27, 2023 7:19 am

Blog is loading faster this morning.

JC
JC
June 27, 2023 7:21 am

Salazar wasn’t a theatrical bonehead like Mussolini, nor a murderous thug like Hitler. Salazar couldn’t stand these two mongrels.

Crossie
Crossie
June 27, 2023 7:25 am

Victorian Opposition Leader John Pesutto will be forced to personally fund his legal ­defence against a defamation action by expelled MP Moira Deeming.

Good. He can ask for contributions from all those in the party room who voted to expel Moira.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
June 27, 2023 7:28 am

I wonder what the Portuguese think about their politician Guterres, JC?

Cassie of Sydney
June 27, 2023 7:34 am

And then there’s the Tor and St Michael’s Tower, overlooking the “Summer Country”, the Isle of Avalon.

calli, I’ve climbed the Tor about four times. The view is spectacular.

rosie
rosie
June 27, 2023 7:35 am

The moral of what, Hugh?

Cassie of Sydney
June 27, 2023 7:39 am

“Salazar wasn’t a theatrical bonehead like Mussolini, nor a murderous thug like Hitler. Salazar couldn’t stand these two mongrels.”

Indeed. In some respects he was a role model to Pinochet (a man who saved Chile).

JC
JC
June 27, 2023 7:40 am

hzhousewife says:
June 27, 2023 at 7:28 am

Antonio (let’s call him that.. Salazar) would have fired the idiot. 🙂

chrisl
chrisl
June 27, 2023 7:40 am

Calli Try and get to the Eden Project while in Cornwall . Very futuristic compared to all the old stuff you see in Britain .
Did you know there is a proposal for an Eden Project along the great ocean rd
In an old coal mine
Opposed by the locals of course

2dogs
2dogs
June 27, 2023 7:43 am

And, will they apologise for getting it so wrong?

Two questions for those thinking Putin might be toppled/assassinated:

(a) Do you imagine that the United Russia Party might nominate someone for president who isn’t a supporter of the same kind of policies that Putin pursues?
(b) Do you imagine that the United Russia Party might lose a Russian presidential election?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 27, 2023 7:44 am

The real casualties of Russia’s ‘civil war’? The Beltway “expert” class

Numerous serious casualties were incurred during Wagner chief Yevgeny Prigozhin’s supposed “coup.” The Grayzone offers an in-depth look at the massacre carried out by some of America’s top Russia experts against their own credibility.

When Wagner Group leader Yevgeny Prigozhin launched a supposed revolt against Russian President Vladimir Putin on June 23, sending his forces on a march toward Moscow following a series of tirades against the country’s defense establishment, Washington’s expert class overflowed with an orgy of regime change fantasies.

For just over 12 hours, everyone from former US ambassador to Russia and noted Hitler apologist Michael McFaul to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to neocon pundit Anne Applebaum exploded with seemingly libidinal excitement about a supposed “civil war” that was certain to feature “Russians…killing Russians,” along with “lots of casualties” and Putin “probably hiding somewhere.”

It was as though the Soviet Union was collapsing all over again, and Prigozhin, a character named on the FBI’s most wanted list whom the US government has sanctioned for leading what it described as a “transnational criminal organization,” was suddenly a white knight storming into Moscow to liberate Russia from “the Putin regime” on the back of a tank. Move over, Juan Guaido.

Expecting a bloodbath and seismic political upheaval, corporate networks like CNN had budgeted wall-to-wall coverage of the coup that wasn’t, filling cable news green rooms with rent-a-generals, K Street think tankers, and war-hungry former diplomatic corps hacks.

On the afternoon of June 24, however, news broke across the US that Prigozhin had struck a deal with Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko to end his protest and go into exile.

Thus ended a largely bloodless affair that ultimately saw fewer documented deaths than the January 6 Capitol Riot.

Though the supposed revolt in Russia burned out faster than a Leopard tank on the way to Zaporizhzhia, we now know that a number of serious casualties were incurred inside the DC Beltway.

The Grayzone obtained an exclusive look at the massacre some of America’s top Russia experts carried out against their own credibility.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 27, 2023 7:54 am

A revolt has begun in the USA!

NYC Tells Coal, Wood Oven Pizzerias to Cut Carbon Emissions by 75% (25 Jun)

‘Extraordinary’: New York cracks down on wood-fired pizzas to cut carbon emissions (Sky, 26 Jun)

NYC Man Protests: ‘Give Us Pizza, or Give Us Death’ (Newsmax, 26 Jun)

The guy could’ve waited a couple weeks since Bastille Day is July 14th.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 27, 2023 7:58 am

Volodymyr Zelensky told the BBC he will cancel elections next year in Ukraine if the country is still at war with Ukraine.

DC Draino reported:

. Zelensky has banned opposition political parties

. He arrested political opponents

. He banned all unfriendly media

. He shut down Orthodox churches

. And now there will be no Presidential election next year

At what point we call him what he is?

A dictator

pic.twitter.com/jFSathORbT

— DC_Draino (@DC_Draino) June 25, 2023

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 27, 2023 8:04 am

I actually think this is an interesting Idea!

Can We Move on From the Trump/Kennedy Unity Ticket Delusion?

As the current frontrunner for the GOP nomination, there has long been speculation as to whom Donald Trump might pick as his running mate. Early on, it was widely predicted that Trump would pick a woman, though obviously no decision has been made yet — and frankly, I wasn’t particularly impressed by the rumored shortlist.

Recently, I’ve noticed chatter on social media about a unity ticket between Trump and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. In fact, even a former Trump strategist has said he thought it would be a good idea.

“Somebody asked about Robert F. Kennedy and the great speech at Hillsdale, his opening speech and what did I think about his prospects. And I said, ‘Look, I’m a Kari Lake person, but if Kari Lake becomes governor, as she should if this court case, or if not, she runs for the Senate. If she’s not available to be Trump’s VP that Bobby Kennedy would be, I think, an excellent choice for President Trump to consider.’ There was a standing ovation and this was a very hardcore MAGA war room posse crowd,” Bannon said on his podcast in April. “I think that that is a signal to the political elites in this country that something very different is going on. And I thought it was quite extraordinary. Robert Kennedy Jr. has huge support for the American populist movement.”

It’s a bonkers theory, and Bannon should know more than anyone that it will never happen.

Consider the names of those who are reportedly on Trump’s shortlist: Rep. Elise Stefanik (R-N.Y.), Kari Lake (R-Ariz.), Gov. Kristi Noem (R-S.D.), Gov. Sarah Huckabee Sanders (R-Ark.), and Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.). Aside from them all being women, they’re all loyal Trump supporters.

Considering how often Trump was betrayed during his first term, loyalty is actually quite important. While a vice president’s role in government is often scoffed at for being trivial, in the event of a closely divided Senate, a vice president actually can play a critical role in ensuring the president’s agenda passes Congress. What loyalty would Robert F. Kennedy Jr., a Democrat, have towards Trump and his agenda? Zero.

One issue in particular that clearly puts Trump and Kennedy at odds is the COVID-19 vaccines. Trump takes credit for the vaccines getting done in record time, and Kennedy has been a staunch opponent of the COVID vaccines, and vaccines in general, as he believes vaccines are linked to autism. Kennedy has even said that the COVID vaccines are the deadliest vaccines ever made, putting him strongly at odds with Trump on this issue.

While it has become clear that the COVID vaccines were grossly oversold and have been linked to increases in myocarditis and other side effects, Trump has repeatedly doubled down on the vaccines. Running mates may not agree on all issues, but that’s a big matzo ball to have coming between two candidates on the same ticket.

And frankly, why would any Republican want a Democrat as the vice president?

Even Kennedy has addressed the rumors of a potential unity ticket, dismissing it outright, saying that

while he “agrees a lot with Trump” on various issues, “it would take a week” to list all the reasons he wouldn’t join a ticket with him.

So let’s put this silly fantasy to bed.

flyingduk
flyingduk
June 27, 2023 8:05 am

Today’s big question is, do the Inuit feed their children breakfast?

Think local Rosie, do our first peoples have a strong record of doing same, or are all the school breakfast/lunch programs un necessary?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 27, 2023 8:06 am

rosiesays:

June 27, 2023 at 7:06 am

Prosecutto is a fool.

Prosecutto!
I see what you did there.

cohenite
June 27, 2023 8:07 am

rosiesays:
June 27, 2023 at 7:06 am
Prosecutto is a fool.

Or a leftie who has infiltrated the libs and is intent on destroying them.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 27, 2023 8:11 am

Today’s big question is, do the Inuit feed their children breakfast?

Seal and whale.
Whale and seal.
Same old, same old.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 27, 2023 8:12 am

Pesutto
It’s perverse how small target politicians end up making themselves the biggest target in town.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 27, 2023 8:13 am

And a big “Hi!” to Paleo Pete Evans if you’re watching!

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 27, 2023 8:16 am

“We are instructed to make clear that our client makes no apologies for taking a strong stance against your client’s failure to dissociate herself unequivocally from and to condemn individuals with known links to neo-Nazis.”

Why should it not be enough to say “I had no idea that they were there and they had nothing to do with us.” The supposed ‘crime’ was that they allowed neo-Nastis to join their rally so it should be enough to assert that that was not true.

No one ever demands such a thing when lefties have Socialist Alliance and other socialist and marxist groups actually intermingled in their bully parades and their track record for carnage and oppression (think USSR, China, North Korea and Cuba) is certainly comparable to the Nastis.

It is also ‘surprising’ that out of all the places the rallies were held, Nasti-theatre only popped up in DPRV (Dan’s People’s Republik of Viktoria).

rosie
rosie
June 27, 2023 8:17 am

Thought they were so smart and would never be rumbled.
these guys were just thieves, plain and simple.

Gabor
Gabor
June 27, 2023 8:20 am

“do the Inuit feed their children breakfast”

Not being even a well versed amateur let alone an expect on either culture, I’d say the Eskimos had a far better chance of feeding their children at any time of the day due to preserving food in the icy condition was a lot easier.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 27, 2023 8:21 am

Farmer Gezsays:

June 27, 2023 at 8:12 am

Pesutto
It’s perverse how small target politicians end up making themselves the biggest target in town.

Lion in the party room.
Lamb on the floor of the House.

rosie
rosie
June 27, 2023 8:21 am

You know what I reckon, the littlies got breast milk, probably in public, and the rest had whatever the adults ate for breakfast.
Unless you think Inuit ate the whole whale the night before.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 27, 2023 8:21 am

OldOzzie you’re forgetting the biggest casualty, Mutley!

Crossie
Crossie
June 27, 2023 8:21 am

Recently, I’ve noticed chatter on social media about a unity ticket between Trump and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. In fact, even a former Trump strategist has said he thought it would be a good idea.

RFKJ would probably be better VP than any of the names currently being put forward. What is even more extraordinary is that a Kennedy is seen as more moral and honest than most of the leaders of both parties.

shatterzzz
June 27, 2023 8:21 am

Think local Rosie, do our first peoples have a strong record of doing same, or are all the school breakfast/lunch programs un necessary?

Regardless of whether they are a good idea or not all these “out of home” freebie packages do is provide couldn’t-care-less parenting with another excuse to fob the kids off on do-gooder bleeding hearts and shirk their own responsibilities ..
I’ve lived in “houso’ long enuf to see the end results .. kids growing up to be copies of parents .. a never ending cycle ……. FFS!

Tom
Tom
June 27, 2023 8:22 am

“Among the rank and file, Moira (Deeming) actually has more support than John (Pesutto),” one Liberal said.

And there, dear reader, is the sad tale of the death of Victorian democracy as the opposition party expels dissidents and apes the wannabe-dictator premier after being decimated at the 2022 state because it was advocating the ALP policy platform.

Stupid Frigging Liberals doesn’t begin to describe their cowardice and bone-headed idiocy.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 27, 2023 8:23 am

The biggest problem the Eskimos had feeding their children was remembering to put the whale in the fridge to thaw it out.

Cassie of Sydney
June 27, 2023 8:23 am

“Pesutto must be shattered that his mentor Andrews hasn’t stepped up with the defence money. After all the fight against Nazis crosses party lines.
This thing is smelly. He has proven himself to be an insanely obdurate obsessive, but would he risk the house on this idiocy? There has got to be yet to be revealed dimensions to this absurdity.”

I honestly have no idea what motivates Prosciutto and the skid marks that are the Victorian Liberals. Two days after the Melbourne Let Women Speak rally, after those paid Nazi operatives turned up, in a stunt very clearly and deliberately designed to embarrass the attendees at the rally, after which Dan led the howls of “Nazis”, “Nazis”, “Nazis”, and Prosciutto and his fellow morons dutifully followed Dan’s shrieks, I recall watching a shrivelled up Prosciutto on Credlin desperately try to justify his accusations of Keen being a “Nazi” or “Nazi adjacent” and then tarring Deeming with the same brush. I remember watching the exchange and being so appalled that such a feeble nonentity could be the leader of the Victorian Liberals. I still shake my head that he was deemed to be best person to lead the party, but then I remember its recent history, with a leader like Groundhog Guy. But that night, watching Sky, I recall Prosciutto’s body language, he was hunched over, his spine bouncing like trifle jelly, and it was obvious he was in a pickle of his own making but instead of standing up for Moira and women such as myself, he doubled down, and he could not or would not crawl out of. Yet, watching him that night, the worst aspect about him was his revolting simpering voice, a voice trying to justify using Wikipedia as a reliable source (that mad me laugh out loud), trying to say that Keen was a Nazi sympathiser and thus women like myself, who care about women’s right and women only safe spaces, were “Nazi adjacent”.

I now think that what remains of the Victorian Liberals, with Prosciutto leading the charge, should all volunteer to go down in a submersive to the bottom of the Mariana Trench, and then all lines of communication should be cut off and they should be left there to rot. Mr Prosciutto won’t have to worry about any Nazis there. Maybe such a scenario might give the Victorian Liberal Party an opportunity to refresh and rebuild, with new blood. But that’s probably wishful thinking on my part.

Crossie
Crossie
June 27, 2023 8:25 am

It is also ‘surprising’ that out of all the places the rallies were held, Nasti-theatre only popped up in DPRV (Dan’s People’s Republik of Viktoria).

The FBI picked up that trick from them.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 27, 2023 8:25 am

rosiesays:

June 27, 2023 at 8:17 am

Thought they were so smart and would never be rumbled.
these guys were just thieves, plain and simple.

It was pretty crude really.
Just deduct but don’t remit tax.
Other evidence of lack of smarts:-
1. Conspicuous spending;
2. Involving a Commanchero in the plan.
I think they were confident daddy would bail them out and run interference inside the ATO.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 27, 2023 8:26 am

And you can guarantee the the irresponsible parents will whinge if the kids didn’t get any food at school.

Crossie
Crossie
June 27, 2023 8:27 am

rosie says:
June 27, 2023 at 8:21 am
You know what I reckon, the littlies got breast milk, probably in public, and the rest had whatever the adults ate for breakfast.
Unless you think Inuit ate the whole whale the night before.

I expect that was the case. From what I understand children were breast fed until a new baby arrived which could be up to five years as the actual breastfeeding prevented ovulation, up to a point.

Roger
Roger
June 27, 2023 8:29 am

A Guardian poll (yes, someone’s gotta read it) reveals Albanese now owns the cost of living crisis, with 75% reporting the government is not doing enough to address the issue.

Cue a Coalition attack on supply-side reform in 3…2…1…crickets.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 27, 2023 8:30 am

OldOzziesays:
June 27, 2023 at 7:44 am
The real casualties of Russia’s ‘civil war’? The Beltway “expert” class

Numerous serious casualties were incurred during Wagner chief Yevgeny Prigozhin’s supposed “coup.” The Grayzone offers an in-depth look at the massacre carried out by some of America’s top Russia experts against their own credibility.

General Field Marshal mUntgumery, Master of Strategy, didn’t come out of it too well either.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 27, 2023 8:30 am

Daughter called into directors office. There’s no annual bonus this year for anyone,,,,, except you. 3% thankyou very much.

rosie
rosie
June 27, 2023 8:30 am

I suspect the children getting a bag of chips and a bottle of coke for the day has a lot to do with the destruction of aboriginal culture not because their parents never traditionally fed them breakfast.
Plus it’s most likely if there was no food stored in a dilly bag, and of course no school to go to, hungry weaned children would be perfectly capable of foraging for themselves, they didn’t have to wait till someone came home that night with a roo, or not.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 27, 2023 8:32 am

Crossie my friend was told that by her GP, three months later pregnant again.

Gabor
Gabor
June 27, 2023 8:32 am

BoN, any thoughts on feeding wild ducks with bread?
Read a report by wildlife activists, that it’s dangerous for them.

Can’t link sorry.

Rufus T Firefly
Rufus T Firefly
June 27, 2023 8:33 am

No coup was launched by the fool Prigozhin, against Putin.
His gripe was with Shoigu and Gerasimov.

Cassie of Sydney
June 27, 2023 8:33 am

“I expect that was the case. From what I understand children were breast fed until a new baby arrived which could be up to five years as the actual breastfeeding prevented ovulation, up to a point”

Yep.

Dot
Dot
June 27, 2023 8:34 am

Young Laydees are paying up to $3000 a ticket for Taylor Swift.

I don’t understand and I don’t want to.

duncanm
duncanm
June 27, 2023 8:34 am

miltonf says:
June 27, 2023 at 5:07 am
The devil is now in the Vatican-evil old kPope Francis stunned the faithful this weekend when he welcomed some 200 avant-garde artists in the Sistine Chapel, including photographer Andres Serrano, creator of the controversial “Piss Christ” work showing a crucifix submerged in a glass of urine.

I’m not religious, but I see Christian good and forgiveness welcoming into your fold those that pour scorn on it.

.. and its a nice big ‘see – it doesn’t bother us, we are all the same’ to him, as a bonus.

Dot
Dot
June 27, 2023 8:36 am

Rufus: How can he walk back the comments about a new President or the basis for war being fake?

Putin has made a blanket statement saying it was foolhardy and treachery.

Roger
Roger
June 27, 2023 8:38 am

I suspect the children getting a bag of chips and a bottle of coke for the day has a lot to do with the destruction of aboriginal culture not because their parents never traditionally fed them breakfast.

As the ABC would put it, the colonisation of the palette [sic].

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 27, 2023 8:40 am

rosie says:
June 27, 2023 at 8:21 am
You know what I reckon, the littlies got breast milk, probably in public

Ewwww!!
Dis-gust-ing!!!!

rosie
rosie
June 27, 2023 8:43 am

My daughter has a friend who is about to have Irish twins.
I wouldn’t be relying on breastfeeding alone.
I suspect the harsh circumstances of living a stone age existence coupled with breastfeeding might have something to do with ovulation suppression.

shatterzzz
June 27, 2023 8:43 am

Cue a Coalition attack on supply-side reform in 3…2…1…crickets.

And this is why Luigi can direct support at his pet, the VOICE, rather than address the country’s social & economic problems .. no, bloody, effective opposition .. and he knows it! ..

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 27, 2023 8:44 am

Let me just put it on the record here.
I have no problem with breasts being on public display.

Damon
Damon
June 27, 2023 8:44 am

WTF is the ABC doing continually referring to Melbourne a ‘Naarm’?

Indolent
Indolent
June 27, 2023 8:45 am

Dr. Peter Hotez was the single most vehement pusher of the vaxes, perhaps even outdoing Fauci. He changed his tune frequently but only ever to ramp up the number of jabs required. He has recently rejected a contribution of $1m. to his favourite charity simply to enter into a debate on the topic. He will only talk to compliant media about the urgency of getting ever more boosters.

Exclusive: Dr. Peter Hotez’s Funding Linked to Controversial Chinese Military Scientists at Wuhan Lab

Roger
Roger
June 27, 2023 8:46 am

Putin has made a blanket statement saying it was foolhardy and treachery.

Update…apparently Prigozhin is forgiven; Zelensky & “the Anglo-Saxons” are now responsible.

I’m getting a distinct “bunker” vibe.

Roger
Roger
June 27, 2023 8:51 am

WTF is the ABC doing continually referring to Melbourne a ‘Naarm’?

Reminding you who the owners are.

Crossie
Crossie
June 27, 2023 8:51 am

GreyRanga says:
June 27, 2023 at 8:32 am
Crossie my friend was told that by her GP, three months later pregnant again.

I had to laugh, I heard of similar instances and that’s why I said up to a point.

Indolent
Indolent
June 27, 2023 8:52 am
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 27, 2023 8:52 am

Prosecutto is hoping to rely upon his “dossier” as part of his defence.
Dossier is word you use when you want to add some MI-7 espionage cred to something.
See also, Steele Dossier.
It is a series of clippings from social media.
I can’t wait for the cross examination on how Prosecutto established the veracity of “@RealTransWarrior” account on Twatter.
I might walk beside him to court in my SS uniform to demonstrate how easy it is to be labelled a Nasti.

Crossie
Crossie
June 27, 2023 8:55 am

Roger says:
June 27, 2023 at 8:51 am
WTF is the ABC doing continually referring to Melbourne a ‘Naarm’?
Reminding you who the owners are.

Yet they ask themselves why are the voting public turning off the voice.

lotocoti
lotocoti
June 27, 2023 8:59 am

All the Hawkeis in the world won’t help in a mixed minefield*.
*You can find it for yourselves.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 27, 2023 9:01 am

Prosecutto is the equivalent of a 1970’s Assistant Manager (acting) at a State Bank sub-branch, making a big show of publicly berating the office girl for not collecting his safari suit from the dry-cleaners on time.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 27, 2023 9:01 am

BoN, any thoughts on feeding wild ducks with bread?
Read a report by wildlife activists, that it’s dangerous for them.

Gabor – I’ve seen that from time to time but I don’t have an authoritative answer one way or the other really, just a few observations. I don’t feed the wild wood ducks around here mainly because they don’t like bread much.

Instinctively I think the wildlife activists are speaking pseudoreligious rubbish. Plus people have been feeding ducks with bread for a long long time, eg in parks, lakes and chook pens. We’d do that when we had muscovies in our chook pen and the only harm they experienced was when we ate them.

The other argument I can offer is that the activists say you shouldn’t feed any wild birds because it’s bad m’kay? That is clearly wrong given the healthy Cafe denizens, who breed well and have taken over the suburb. The noisies eat lots of bread, in part because they’ve stripped the area of spiders and insects. But the production line of new noisies is still going full bore at two or three chicks per nest each couple of months. I’m not awash in them because the clans kick the kids out – they then go find other places to live. Bread certainly doesn’t do them any noticeable harm. With a secure source of food they also tend not to persecute other birds, which spares my eardrums.

The muscovies in our chook pen would scoff anything of course, including old cat food and chook pellets. So chook pellets might be a cheap and more balanced alternative.

Crossie
Crossie
June 27, 2023 9:05 am

Francis stunned the faithful this weekend when he welcomed some 200 avant-garde artists in the Sistine Chapel, including photographer Andres Serrano, creator of the controversial “Piss Christ” work showing a crucifix submerged in a glass of urine.

I’m not religious, but I see Christian good and forgiveness welcoming into your fold those that pour scorn on it.

Christians welcome into the church only the penitents, those who have repented their sinning ways. I have not heard that Serrano has seen the light.

Crossie
Crossie
June 27, 2023 9:10 am

Indolent says:
June 27, 2023 at 9:00 am
Just following the zeitgeist of the day.

Pants on fire! Harvard behavioral scientist who studies dishonesty is accused of fabricating data in multiple research papers

This is getting into the parody territory.

Crossie
Crossie
June 27, 2023 9:11 am

Indolent says:
June 27, 2023 at 9:08 am
The REAL power behind the North Korean throne revealed: Explosive new book exposes Kim Jong-un’s little-known sister as a ruthless psychopath who executes officials for ‘getting on her nerves’ and is tipped to succeed him as dictator

Unless little Un gets rid of her first.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 27, 2023 9:11 am

Crossie my friend was told that by her GP, three months later pregnant again.

A relative of mine was told, just after the birth of her first child, to use contraception, as there was nothing to stop her becoming pregnant again.

“Are you kidding? Do you think I’m letting the old man near me, ever again?”

Indolent
Indolent
June 27, 2023 9:12 am
Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 27, 2023 9:14 am

Lode:

Why should it not be enough to say “I had no idea that they were there and they had nothing to do with us.” The supposed ‘crime’ was that they allowed neo-Nastis to join their rally so it should be enough to assert that that was not true.

No one ever demands such a thing when lefties have Socialist Alliance and other socialist and marxist groups actually intermingled in their bully parades

Boom.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 27, 2023 9:15 am

WA local governments warn Indigenous heritage laws will result in neglected firebreaks and higher rates
Josh Zimmerman
The West Australian
Tue, 27 June 2023 2:00AM

Councils will be left with little choice but to hike rates to recover the costs imposed by updated Aboriginal heritage laws while some landowners may elect to shirk their responsibility to maintain firebreaks over concerns they might breach the new requirements.

Those stark warnings were contained in a submission from the WA Local Government Association as part of late-stage consultation on the Aboriginal Cultural Heritage Act in December.

WALGA used the opportunity to lobby the State Government to subsidise councils for costs associated with complying with the new Act, while flagging a swag of concerns and pleading for a delay to the July 1 commencement date.

One of those concerns related to the maintenance of firebreaks, listed then — and now — as a tier 1 activity under the new Act, which requires a “due diligence assessment” to ensure no Aboriginal heritage is being disturbed prior to commencing work.

Every year, councils across the State issue thousands of Section 33 firebreak notices requiring landowners to “clear and maintain a firebreak to assist with the prevention, control and extinguishment of bush fires”.

WALGA wrote the categorisation of complying with a Section 33 notice as tier 1 raised “significant issues” while arguing maintaining firebreaks should be exempt under the Act.

“Compliance with firebreak notices may be compromised as landowners may not understand the due diligence process and as a result may refuse to comply, adversely affecting levels of bushfire mitigation activity,” the peak body wrote.

“It is likely that landowners will seek advice and guidance from local governments relating to compliance with the ACH Act, resulting in a significant additional administrative burden on Local Government.”

Good luck with the vote for the Voice….

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 27, 2023 9:19 am

One other data point on bread and birds that I’ve just remembered – I have a wild cockie that has been coming every day for over 10 years. She(?) is a bit of a loner and has a slightly wonky wing joint from some injury a long time ago. As a result she tries to stay in trees so she can launch and flap to the next tree without getting stuck on the ground where she can’t easily take off.

She’s been eating one to two slices of white bread every day for those ten or so years. Probably a large proportion of her diet, since she can’t eat kikuyu like the others, yet she’s obviously been healthy all this time except for her wing. She was here this morning looking fine.

Cockies though are seed eaters and bread is derived from seeds, whereas ducks are more into grass and weed and suchlike.

Crossie
Crossie
June 27, 2023 9:19 am

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:
June 27, 2023 at 9:11 am
Crossie my friend was told that by her GP, three months later pregnant again.
A relative of mine was told, just after the birth of her first child, to use contraception, as there was nothing to stop her becoming pregnant again.

“Are you kidding? Do you think I’m letting the old man near me, ever again?”

Ha, ha. How many kids do they have now?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 27, 2023 9:25 am

Today’s big question is, do the Inuit feed their children breakfast?

Implicit in the question, inside the Arctic circle do they only have one breakfast a year?

One breakfast, six months of lunches, one dinner, then six months of midnight snacks.

Crossie
Crossie
June 27, 2023 9:25 am

Seriously folks, if our politicians were actually smart we would have very little to discuss here. At the cost to my entertainment I would still like the experience of living in a well run society where the politicians are doing the best for the voters who put them there. It’s on my bucket list.

Dot
Dot
June 27, 2023 9:31 am

Update…apparently Prigozhin is forgiven; Zelensky & “the Anglo-Saxons” are now responsible.

I’m getting a distinct “bunker” vibe.

Anglo-Saxon conspiracy theories.

Stalinist vibes.

Cassie of Sydney
June 27, 2023 9:33 am

“No one ever demands such a thing when lefties have Socialist Alliance and other socialist and marxist groups actually intermingled in their bully parades and their track record for carnage and oppression (think USSR, China, North Korea and Cuba) is certainly comparable to the Nastis.”

Quite so, but consistency is never ever required from the left. And remember, whenever Israel has to launch military action in Gaza, progressives and adherents of the religion of pieces protest in large numbers in Sydney, Melbourne and other cities across this nation. Always in attendance at these protests are Labor and Greens politicians, and in the crowd, where those same Labor and Greens politicians are mingling, you’ll see placards daubed with such peaceful slogans such as “open the ovens”, the genocidal cry, “From the River to the Sea”, the Star of David superimposed over a Swastika, and other such peaceful sweet slogans. But I suppose, as a certain grub once wrote on these pages, that’s okay because they have “legitimate grievances”.

There is never any opprobrium directed at those Greens and Labor politicians. Never.

The stench of hypocrisy is nauseating and what Prosciutto and the eternally stupid Victorian Liberals did was to give credence to such hypocrisy.

The appearance of those Nazis in Melbourne in March was NO accident. It was a carefully designed and orchestrated stunt and the dickhead Prosciutto and his fellow Liberal party dickheads fell for it hook, line and sinker.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 27, 2023 9:36 am

publicly berating the office girl for not collecting his safari suit from the dry-cleaners on time

Powder blue or tan?
Shorts with knee high socks and sandals of trousers and brown shoes?
Pith helmet or terry toweling hat?

Its the little details like that separate the average man from those imbued with the aura of sartorial splendor.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 27, 2023 9:37 am

VicPol
– saw the neo Nazis at the rally
– watched them make offensive gestures
– let them remain at the rally
– allowed them to parade at the rally
– kept them safe from attack at the rally

What standard of association does Nancy Pesutto apply for his defence?
He’s as doomed as doomed can be.

Cassie of Sydney
June 27, 2023 9:37 am

Speaking of the grub…where is he?

Oh and I note that DaFisk has gone quiet. Pochemu? He was getting all excited on Saturday night at the thought of Prigozhin marching on Moscow.

Roger
Roger
June 27, 2023 9:39 am

Seriously folks, if our politicians were actually smart we would have very little to discuss here.

History, literature, philosophy, religion.

Mere ephemera.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 27, 2023 9:41 am

Yet they ask themselves why are the voting public turning off the voice.

Possibly a future strategy to employ every time the left come up with a campaign to destroy an aspect of Australian life which they are trying to sneak through disguised as something warm and fuzzy.

Carefully manoeuvre them to where they feel they are on the verge of winning and then…watch. They cannot help at that point but to unleash all their vileness, their contempt, and their hatred. All their real motivations come tumbling out of their mouths – the trick is to let them feel they are on the threshold before they really are and their explosive misanthropy has time to turn the tide of opinion against them.

You ever seen kids jumping up and down excitedly when a birthday cake comes out? Same thing with lefties, but they have less self-control.

Roger
Roger
June 27, 2023 9:41 am

Powder blue or tan?

Beige.

Dot
Dot
June 27, 2023 9:43 am

The REAL power behind the North Korean throne revealed: Explosive new book exposes Kim Jong-un’s little-known sister as a ruthless psychopath who executes officials for ‘getting on her nerves’ and is tipped to succeed him as dictator

The “stannings” are quite ridiculous.

Imagine Kim Yo-jong

Imagine her just grabbing you by the skull with her vice strength hands and just throwing your naked body onto the bed

“You are my toy now”

She sits on you and plays with your trembling…

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
June 27, 2023 9:44 am

Then they came for the doggos, and I said nothing because I was not a doggo.

First dog in history to be ‘cancelled’: Rescue pup faces Pride Month
…“I rather grumpily wrote to Tractive in Austria and I said, why don’t you just concentrate on tracking dogs and cease the virtue signalling,” he told Sky News Australia host Piers Morgan.

Dot
Dot
June 27, 2023 9:44 am

WTF Reddit degenerates?

Kim Yo-Jong: The supreme leader of my heart

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 27, 2023 9:46 am

Mother Lodesays:

June 27, 2023 at 9:25 am

Today’s big question is, do the Inuit feed their children breakfast?

Implicit in the question, inside the Arctic circle do they only have one breakfast a year?

One breakfast, six months of lunches, one dinner, then six months of midnight snacks.

And this is the sort of silliness we’ve come to expect from you.
Sad.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
June 27, 2023 9:48 am

Someone, somewhere, knows exactly who those “ fine” young men are.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 27, 2023 9:50 am

Kim Yo-jong

Im imagining some of the old Flashman writings recast with her in the saddle.

So Flashman becomes an North Korean and winters with them, into 2050, and becomes best friends with the Kim or, as the world would later know him, Supreme leader for life.
The Koreans make the assumption that Flashman is settled with them. he’s happily making Kim Yo-jong Woman’s bells ring and who could imagine a lifestyle better than this.

Dot
Dot
June 27, 2023 9:52 am

I think the idea of breaking up Russia is bonkers, but here is better-informed opinion on it:

https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2023/03/24/why-pushing-for-the-break-up-of-russia-is-absolute-folly/

Why pushing for the break up of Russia is absolute folly

Even the most vociferous opposition leaders say creating new states out of the federation would be fraught with disaster. Here’s why.

Indeed, Khodorkovsky is adamant that it is “irresponsible to wish for the collapse of the Russian Federation” and insists that “the Putin regime is leading to the destruction of Russia.” He continued, “A broken up Russia could cause more problems that the current version.” Writing in Politico he argued that if disintegration did occur, “a new need will arise for the forced unification of Russia’s main territory, and this will be accomplished by the next Russian dictator. It will set in motion a new totalitarian cycle in Russia.”

There were some dissenting voices at the Hudson Institute symposium in February. For example, Natalia Arno, the president of the Free Russia Foundation (and herself an ethnic Buryat) said, “We want to fix Russia, not to dissolve it,” adding that “There is no demand for dissolution on the ground level, aside from emigrants.”

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 27, 2023 9:55 am

hzhousewifesays:

June 27, 2023 at 9:48 am

Someone, somewhere, knows exactly who those “ fine” young men are.

Wouldn’t it be great if a couple could be ID’d and dragged to court?

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 27, 2023 9:55 am

Prosciutto provided the greatest election night TV as he sat on the ALPBC panel and proceeded to lose his safe seat. The Victoriastan Lieborals breathed life into the corpse like a dog returning to its vomit. He is the best man to lead the party.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 27, 2023 10:00 am

Of course, breathing life into a corpse gave WA Emperor Barney so it shouldn’t be dismissed out of hand.

Dot
Dot
June 27, 2023 10:01 am

I’m not religious, but I see Christian good and forgiveness welcoming into your fold those that pour scorn on it.

Not just forgiveness, it could be repentance. He might feel sorry for causing offence for no reason other than spitefulness to millions if not billions.

Both are at the core of Christianity.

Reminds me of something about feet and wash cloths.

Dot
Dot
June 27, 2023 10:02 am

Of course, breathing life into a corpse gave WA Emperor Barney so it shouldn’t be dismissed out of hand.

Keep in mind if we are talking about fantasy, we are giving a nod to Nagash, not Aslan.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 27, 2023 10:05 am

Pesutto is a typical paid player for the political AFL team.
A-nother
F-ucking
L-awyer

Black Ball
Black Ball
June 27, 2023 10:05 am

Phil Egan writing reports for the English Cricket Board?

Cricket in England and Wales is riven with elitism, sexism and racism, a new report has found.

The ECB, which commissioned the report in November 2021 after allegations of racism at Yorkshire, last night (Monday) responded to its findings by issuing an”unreserved apology” to those who have faced discrimination in cricket.

The report’s authors said they were shocked by the evidence submitted to them by more than 4,000 people, saying that the “stark reality is that cricket is not for everyone”.

The report, titled Holding up a Mirror to Cricket concluded that:

– Ethnic minority cricketers have regularly experienced discrimination within the game, with 87 per cent of Pakistani and Bangladeshi respondents, 82 per cent of Indian respondents and 75 per cent of black respondents saying they had encountered discrimination at all levels of the sport. However, most said they had not reported racist incidents because they did not believe that they would be investigated properly.

– Working-class people, especially in inner cities, are often denied access to cricket, and independent schools have a huge hold over it, providing more than half the present England team.

– There is a prevalent culture of sexism in cricket, with women hugely under-represented in positions of power. Many women reported “unwanted and uninvited advances” from men and that the “drinking culture within cricket leaves women exposed to predatory behaviour”.

Among the 44 recommendations that the report urges the ECB to adopt is that players from the England women’s team should be paid as much as the men by 2030.

The report identifies that the average salary for the women is 20.6 per cent of that paid to the men for playing white-ball cricket and that the match fees women receive are worth only 25 per cent of those paid to England’s men for white-ball matches and 15 per cent for Test matches. The ECB has acknowledged this gender pay disparity and has promised to review the affordability of increasing women’s pay.

Cindy Butts, who led the report, said that there is a “drinking culture” in cricket that has led to discriminatory behaviour against female and Muslim players who do not drink and that those who do not drink can be excluded from progressing in the game.

Class discrimination features heavily in the findings of the report, which asserts there are significant structural barriers for those not educated in independent schools.

“Our evidence points to the prevalence of elitism and class-based discrimination in cricket,” it said, adding: “Private school and ‘old boys’ networks’ and cliques permeate the game to the exclusion of many.”

The report also criticises the governing body and recommends that an independent regulatory body should be established urgently to separate out the functions of the ECB, which is both the promoter and regulator of the game.

“Our findings are unequivocal,” Butts said. “Racism, class-based discrimination, elitism and sexism are widespread and deep rooted. The game must face up to the fact that it’s not banter or just a few bad apples. Discrimination is both overt and baked into the structures and processes within cricket.”

The ECB has committed to producing an action plan within the next three months. Richard Gould, its chief executive, said: “We’ve got a job to do.”

Dame Caroline Dinenage MP, who chairs the culture, media and sport committee, said the evidence of racial discrimination, sexism and elitism in the report “is unacceptable in a sport that should be for everyone and must now be a catalyst for change”.

She added: “That sexism and misogyny is routine in our national summer game, with women treated as second-class citizens, shows just how much more needs to be done.”

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 27, 2023 10:09 am

What standard of association does Nancy Pesutto apply for his defence?
He’s as doomed as doomed can be.

It is sometimes nice to indulge in a little fantasy.

I would like to imagine Pesutto driven to penury by Deeming’s lawsuit. I would like to see him having just lost his job at the McDonalds drive through because no matter what people ordered he kept giving bland food that was ‘what they need’.

Customer: Could I have a BBQ Bacon Angus, a Double Cheeseburger, and a Chicken Deluxe. Can I also get three Large Fries, two Large Cokes and a Frozen Fanta.
Pesutto: Here you are! Two junior burgers, a small fries, and 3 nuggets without sauce. Here are three cups – there is a tap around the corner
Customer: Hey! That is not what I ordered!
Pesutto: I have been talking to ordinary Australians, across all demographics across this wide and magnificent restaurant, and I have been listening. And what they have been telling me is that they want Junior Burgers, cold fries, stale nuggets, and tap water. I think you might have to have a bit of a rethink about your order.

I would like him to turn up to the Liberal party begging for any work, complaining that the only income he has is taking the family labrador to a strange dingy club called ‘Puppy Love’ for people with an unnatural carnal fondness for dogs and where ‘Cooper’ turns tricks rather than does them.

And half of that money must go straight to Moira as part of the court settlement.

I would like to see him then ushered into a room with a ladder and a hole high in the wall which he has to stick his head through, and on the other side of the wall, between trophies of stags, caribous, and lions, Pesutto’s head projects above a small brass plaque reading ‘John Pesutto. F’wit. Loser. Dog Pimp.’

Vicki
Vicki
June 27, 2023 10:09 am

There were some dissenting voices at the Hudson Institute symposium in February. For example, Natalia Arno, the president of the Free Russia Foundation (and herself an ethnic Buryat) said, “We want to fix Russia, not to dissolve it,” adding that “There is no demand for dissolution on the ground level, aside from emigrants.”

The Russia I visited in the late 1980s seems to be nothing like the Russia of today. Like other earlier tourists, I have not really followed the development of Russian daily life, other than expecting it would obviously become more prosperous with the opening up of oil production etc. So I was stunned months ago when I saw a video taken by an American tourist of a shopping mall in Moscow. Crikey, when I was there the shops were virtually empty of any significant products and even food was rationed in everyday life. But today the shopping malls seem indistinguishable from those in the West, complete with luxury brands. And the carparks have the latest models as well.

Black Ball
Black Ball
June 27, 2023 10:15 am

Pesutto is a typical paid player for the political AFL team.

Speaking of political AFL sides, Sam Landsberger reporteth:

Almost one in 10 AFL players said they hid a concussion last year while a broader “culture of silence” is preventing players from speaking their truths on human rights issues including racism, an AFLPA survey says.

The AFL Players’ Association’s Insight and Impact report has revealed male and female players often feel gagged by their own clubs.

“We’ve heard players talk about this off the back of Adelaide (pre-season camp) and Hawthorn (racism saga),” AFLPA boss Paul Marsh said on Monday night.

“I think the industry needs to be asking itself the question why players are not comfortable?

“Our view is there’s very strong team cultures, which is one of the great positives of AFL, but at the same time players feel as though they’re potentially hurting their team culture if they speak up on issues.

“We think it’s important the industry does make players feel comfortable. They have a right to speak out and it’s about safety and at times we’ve questioned whether aspects of our industry are safe.

“It’s a concern and it’s something we’re doing a bit of work on.

“We’re introducing a whistleblower service and this is something the industry needs to keep striving to improve because there has been a common theme in big issues in recent years.”

The rate of Indigenous and multicultural players experiencing racism while listed in the AFL has not changed – 32 per cent (men) and 30 per cent (women).

Fourteen per cent of respondents in the AFLPA survey reported that they had experienced racism in the past 12 months while 77 per cent of AFLW and 40 per cent of AFL Indigenous and multicultural players were not satisfied with how a racism incident was handled once it was reported.

Last year nine per cent of male players said they experienced a concussion that they didn’t report – surpassing the five-year average of seven per cent and returning to the levels in 2016-18.

Marsh said it was due to the mandatory 12-day sit-out period.

“Anecdotally what we’re hearing from players is a fear of missing out on matches,” he said.

“Obviously careers are tied to matches and payments are tied to matches – that’s what it is largely.

“It’s not a huge number, but it’s an alarming number in a sense that we’ve never had a better understanding of how serious the injury is.

“It’s something we’d like to see turned back the other way.”

Mental health and trolls on social media were the biggest two societal issues for players.

Players were asked to select up to three of the most significant issues facing players – with 73 per cent of men and women choosing mental health, followed by social media (56 per cent for women and 52 per cent for men).

The other main issues for female players were gender and sexuality inclusivity (54 per cent) and media scrutiny (51 per cent).

For males it was media scrutiny (45 per cent), racism (43 per cent) and gambling (26 per cent). Gambling was reported as a problem by just 1 per cent of female players.

Illicit drugs was selected by 19 per cent of men and 4 per cent of women as an issue.

AFLW mental health issues are led by anxiety (16 per cent) and depression (9 per cent) while ADHD has emerged as an issue for female players.

The AFLPA report reinforced the strong correlation between workplace culture and on-field success – the three AFL clubs with the highest workplace culture scores finished in last year’s top six.

Measures include time off, care, off-field development and support.

“The progression we have seen over 10 years in workplace culture scores really does talk to the value of us seeking player feedback and then constructively feeding it back to clubs,” Marsh said.

“The results speak for themselves. Clubs have improved their cultures and players feel more trusted, supported and cared for in these environments. This is a win for everyone.”

But the expectation for players to attend their club on their day off has soared from 2 per cent (2019) to 12 per cent (2022).

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 27, 2023 10:15 am

taking the family labrador to a strange dingy club called ‘Puppy Love’ for people with an unnatural carnal fondness for dogs and where ‘Cooper’ turns tricks rather than does them

Show me on the dolly where “cooper” did the bad touch on you

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 27, 2023 10:18 am

is preventing players from speaking their truths

The enlightenment was nice while it lasted.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
June 27, 2023 10:18 am

President Vladimir Putin warns those responsible for Saturday’s attempted coup will ‘be brought to justice’.
Speaking from his basement, Putin displayed harrowing CCTV images from Rostov-on-Don. “You can see here the barbarity of the violence in this coup” he said, as images of Wagner troops calmly walking through the Rostov historical society museum played on the main screen. “We know that they were assisted by traitors amongst our ranks” stated Putin, apparently supported by video of Rostov museum guards accompanying Wagner through the building.
“You can see the bloodthirsty derangement in their eyes”, while freezing the video on one soldier admiring a statue of Rostov’s founder…

😉

Tom
Tom
June 27, 2023 10:24 am

“We know that they were assisted by traitors amongst our ranks” stated Putin, apparently supported by video of Rostov museum guards accompanying Wagner through the building.

In other words, a rerun of the January 6 2021 insurrection in Washington DC.

Morsie
Morsie
June 27, 2023 10:26 am

Pesutto is a very good local member, comes to everything helps out at rubbish clean ups .Mild mannered and pleasant.
Clearly not up to leading and I wonder who is pulling his strings or whether it was just an ill fated attempt to lay down a marker for his leadership.
Even if he wins the defamation battle, his costs will be enormous as solicitor client costs exceed by at least 20 – 30 % the amount of costs that he might be awarded, that’s assuming Deeming has any assets.
If he loses he will be stuffed.

Arky
June 27, 2023 10:27 am

I doubt Wagner group can expect very enthusiastic or accurate future close air support after shooting down and killing craft and crews from that branch.
As to the idea that waiting in the wings to take over are people more hard line and anti-Western than Putin: Bring it on I say.
The last 50 years since Nixon went to Beijing has shown us what happens when our leaders cosy up with communist regimes: their elites and our elites decide they have many interests in common against the ordinary masses in both blocs, and the commie ideology bleeds into our institutions, not the reverse.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 27, 2023 10:29 am

Gruinaid continuing the in-voice charm offensive…

As an Arrernte woman, I feel stuck with a choice between systems I do not trust and the fear of giving in to rabid racists

Yet the yes side aren’t actually anti-racist. In fact, over generations, they have benefited from racist ideas and policies. They now see promoting the yes vote as a way to perform their anti-racism without any inconvenient interrogation. Indigenous people on the yes side who I have spoken to are tired of telling scores of white people who reckon they are anti-racist what it is that they should be doing to help secure that positive outcome.

Nothing says ‘wining’ like kicking your own most enthusiastic supporters.
Who am i kidding, they will lap it up and come back for more.

Roger
Roger
June 27, 2023 10:29 am

77 per cent of AFLW and 40 per cent of AFL Indigenous and multicultural players were not satisfied with how a racism incident was handled once it was reported.

Define “racism.”

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 27, 2023 10:30 am

Prosecutto is in a world of self-inflicted pain.
The Libs organisational wing refusing to pick up the tab for his legal folly tells you they don’t agree with him and/or they think he has no chance of winning.
He is cooked prosciutto.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 27, 2023 10:33 am

The Paywallian reporting Daggles Macguire has been charged in what must surely be Australia’s most bizarre sex non-scandal.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 27, 2023 10:35 am

He is cooked prosciutto.

While not strictly authentic, still the basis for a perfectly acceptable carbonara.

areff
areff
June 27, 2023 10:35 am

That was just the start of it, Bear. If memory serves, he went on to say the SFLs needed to go big on wind turbines and solar because his teenage daughter had just attended a kiddies climate march and was very worried about the climate.

And yet, having not learned the lesson of Matthew Guy, that half-formed creatures lacking brain and spine can’t win (twice), they go with an even bigger idiot.

Until Deeming and her ilk are in charge, a vote for the SFLs is a vote wasted.

Roger
Roger
June 27, 2023 10:38 am

If memory serves, he went on to say the SFLs needed to go big on wind turbines and solar because his teenage daughter had just attended a kiddies climate march and was very worried about the climate.

Lucky for her that no Nazis turned up.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 27, 2023 10:40 am
Delta A
Delta A
June 27, 2023 10:40 am

Mother Lode in fine form today.

🙂

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
June 27, 2023 10:42 am

Never was anything great achieved without danger.

– Niccolo Machiavelli

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 27, 2023 10:42 am

Prosecutto is in a world of self-inflicted pain.

Hey, he might be a nice guy up close and in his private life. But can he really be so blind as to see that he is utterly ineffectual as an opposition leader and that the only scalps he can hang from his belt are from his own people? And when he retreated to his subterranean burrow or wherever serves as a sanctuary for him after dealing with the Deeming affair, did he feel he had won a victory, or that he had contained a defeat?

Does he look back on his achievements and notice it is not a garden but a wasteland. Or does he have a mole-like near-sightedness and sees an unending vista of adroitly managed peripheral matters – calming grumbling members, crafting press releases (that never get printed in full), getting some business to cough up some cash, etc.

Cassie of Sydney
June 27, 2023 10:43 am

Lucky for her that no Nazis turned up.

The Grampian Nazis are very selective about what protests they turn up to!

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
June 27, 2023 10:43 am

Man who takes Woman up hill, not on level.

– Benny Hill

LOL.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 27, 2023 10:44 am

I expect it it just a coincidence that Victoriastan is the only jurisdiction having problems with slugs and Nazis.

Dot
Dot
June 27, 2023 10:45 am

Does he look back on his achievements and notice it is not a garden but a wasteland.

King Nothing. An empire of dirt.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 27, 2023 10:46 am

Pesutto is a very good local member, comes to everything helps out at rubbish clean ups .Mild mannered and pleasant.

OK.
Let him pick up discarded condoms in the park then, if that is his skill set.

Clearly not up to leading and I wonder who is pulling his strings or whether it was just an ill fated attempt to lay down a marker for his leadership.

Err, there is a jug-eared buffoon sitting opposite him in the chamber who has provided ample opportunity to “lay down a marker”.
But no.
The bully-gnome won’t go there.
Watch this space.
His next stunt will be going full bi-partisan on da Voice.
At which point Dan will describe him as a “patronising opportunist” and Prosecutto will agree.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 27, 2023 10:50 am

If memory serves, he went on to say the SFLs needed to go big on wind turbines and solar because his teenage daughter had just attended a kiddies climate march and was very worried about the climate.

I have noticed this with middle-aged men in both politics and business, particularly if they are divorced with teenage kids. They will do the most illogical and embarrassing things to appear cool to their kids.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 27, 2023 10:50 am

slugs and Nazis.

Both dress in black
Both hate exposure to sunlight
Both quite revolting
Both leave a train of slime & destruction wherever they go.

Has anyone tried sprinkling salt on nazis to see what would happen?

Bar Beach Swimmer
June 27, 2023 10:55 am

Pesutto is a very good local member, comes to everything helps out at rubbish clean ups .Mild mannered and pleasant.

Damning with faint praise.

The Scouts could do any of that, and better, if required.

Yes, politicians once were supposed to be able to show their affability by kissing the proverbial baby. But we’re no longer in that world of the common courtesies.

Gee, today, drag queens and transgenders are the got-to’s if tiny tots are to have their brows pattered.

Which segues nicely to John Pesutto and his argument with Moira Deeming.

Clearly not up to leading and I wonder who is pulling his strings or whether it was just an ill fated attempt to lay down a marker for his leadership.

If there’s no actual leadership, then there’s no actual leader.

What Pesutto is engaged in is the bullying of one woman who is fighting for the rights of all women. Which means that Pesutto is fighting against the rights of all women to not be intimidated by men dressed up as women. Fine “leadership” there.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 27, 2023 11:00 am

The sum total of matters where the opinions of teenage girls are worth listening to is Nil.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 27, 2023 11:03 am

Politics, particularly in Victoriastan, isn’t a Lions club meeting.

Tom
Tom
June 27, 2023 11:06 am

The SFL “women’s problem” explained: John Pesutto is fighting for the right of sexual predators dressed as females to invade women’s toilets and change rooms. And he thinks women are too stupid to notice he’s not on their side.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 27, 2023 11:08 am

John Pesutto thinks he can win the culture wars by surrendering BEFORE the jug eared corrupt slug mongler even launches an attack.

Bar Beach Swimmer
June 27, 2023 11:10 am

I have noticed this with middle-aged men in both politics and business, particularly if they are divorced with teenage kids.

Years ago, a uni lecturer told me that in one of her post graduate courses, which was designed for the company exec type, these previously hard-faced businessmen because all soft and fuzzy once their own – especially their daughters – entered the workforce.

Previous to that experience, they were utterly disinterested in the plight, if there was one, of the young things below them.

But when it was the turn of their own kids to enter the workforce, their kids’ bosses were deemed far to hard on them.

Bar Beach Swimmer
June 27, 2023 11:12 am

**because**

became

Frank
Frank
June 27, 2023 11:13 am

Powder blue or tan?
Beige.

Fawn.

Black Ball
Black Ball
June 27, 2023 11:15 am

Dutton in the Courier Mail, Matthew Killaron reports:

Australians will not back the Voice if the Prime Minister keeps “yelling” at them, Opposition Leader Peter Dutton said, warning “Australians would not vote for something they did not understand”.

As support for the Yes case drops and polling puts the No vote ahead for the first time, Anthony Albanese conceded there was more work to be done to explain the Voice to Australians.

He also confirmed that the Labor Party would mobilise its resources to support the Yes campaign.

Mr Dutton said the Australian public was not ready for the Voice because they would not vote for something they did not understand.

“I don’t think there’s any wonder that people want to a better outcome for Indigenous Australians, but why won’t the Prime Minister explain it to me and why is the Prime Minister yelling at me that I’m not smart enough to understand it, or that I’m racist because I don’t support the Voice,” Mr Dutton said.

“That’s a nonsense approach.

“There are many big-hearted Australians who want a better outcome for Indigenous Australians at the moment, but they are really looking at the detail and wondering why the Prime Minister is keeping that detail from them.

“Until the Prime Minister can explain properly what the Voice is, it should not proceed.”

Mr Albanese played down the plunging support for the Yes campaign.

He said there was plenty of time to make the case, with a date yet to be set for the vote, though it is widely tipped to be in October.

“The ballot is not this Saturday,” he said.

“We have got to explain what it is about, we will continue to do so.

“We will continue to govern across the whole range of portfolios, but at the same time, there hasn’t been a referendum held at any time this century and we will continue to put our case.

“The single one-word slogans will certainly be there. (WTF?)

“But what we need to do is to make it clear and encourage people to look at what the words are that are being put forward, the very simple proposition.” (if it were as simple as what you say, then the points would have been articulated already)

A Newspoll published in The Australian on Monday showed the Yes vote had fallen to 43 per cent, while the No vote had risen to 47 per cent.

Queensland, Western Australia, South Australia and Tasmania were all leaning towards a majority No vote.

A referendum needs a majority of the nation and a majority of the states to succeed.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
June 27, 2023 11:16 am

It’s great to see Tom got my joke, but I was worried I was making the analogy so close and so obvious that it wouldn’t be subtle enough to be funny.

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