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The Pont Neuf Rainy Afternoon, Camille Pissaro, 1901

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Dot
Dot
September 5, 2023 6:09 pm
GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 5, 2023 6:10 pm

DBG and Mem, I couldn’t believe the crap Bess Price had to put up with. Jacinta is a chip of the old block and even better. I’m so pleased Jacinta Price is in Federal politics. Hated because she speaks the truth to everyone. The truth the left don’t want voters to know.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 5, 2023 6:11 pm

And she cops just as much grief from the “Aboriginal Industry” as her daughter.

Of course she does. That’s because she isn’t a power hungry creep and tells the truth. And of course she’s a genuine hundred percent aborigine, unlike most of those in the industry.

She makes them look like the shallow, dishonest chancers they are. Both she and Jacinta are worth a million Pearsons or Dodsons.

Cassie of Sydney
September 5, 2023 6:11 pm

“The LDP/Libertarian Party, Craig Cameron and Aboriginal elders and activists are holding a rally against the Voice to Parliament.”

I will attend.

Mark from Melbourne
Mark from Melbourne
September 5, 2023 6:13 pm

I wanted to include their entire ‘energy footprint’

I’m certainly above my pay grade on energy footprint, but another thing which is only just beginning to get anything like sufficient attention is their physical footprint.

Yale, I think, calculated wind turbines at about 3 acres per turbine, and solar PV is something like 85+ acres per MW nameplate. These are very significant numbers!

Add in the fact that all this (“plentifully available, in this vast continent”) land is hundreds of miles from anywhere useful if you’re lucky, and you’re right where Farmer Gez is right now, I think… if the land for the generation doesn’t kill you, the land for the transmission probably will.

Black Ball
Black Ball
September 5, 2023 6:15 pm

If you thought it not possible to loathe Frydenburg any more than you already do, take a gander at this article by Charles Miranda:

A public push for an inquiry into shocking rates of military suicides was initially blocked after a secret forum was convened by the then Treasurer Josh Frydenberg with a select clique of “powerful” civilians.

The Royal Commission into Defence and Veteran Suicide has heard evidence the high level 2019 gathering in Mr Frydenberg’s Melbourne office included a “back door appearance” by then Prime Minister Scott Morrison.

The then Coalition government in 2021 vocally opposed calls for an inquiry but did eventually buckle to public pressure to announce the royal commission.

But why the Coalition did not want the inquiry and why Frydenberg as treasurer convened such a secret meeting and who attended will remain just that – secret – after a claim of parliamentary privilege by Commonwealth lawyers.

Revelation of the meeting was made by former ADF Army doctor and captain Dr Daniel Mealey who was privy to a chain of emails which detailed the mid December 2019 gathering and which have now been suppressed.

He said the meeting was secret in that it was not advertised or promoted in the media despite it being convened by Frydenberg, attended by Morrison and “a group of mostly civilians in quite significant positions of power”.

Emails that recounted the minutes of the meeting revealed everyone at the table did not want the royal commission inquiry.

Instead it was proposed that an Office of the National Commissioner for Defence and Veteran Suicide Prevention be established and funding provided “for a project that was considered to be of value” to the organisations of the civilians present were linked to.

Commissioner Dr Peggy Brown asked why it was the then Treasurer was involved at all in such a meeting.

“I mean that’s a very good question, Commissioner Brown, why is the treasurer or the Prime Minister needed in … I don’t know what you want to call it … healthcare initiatives,” Dr Mealey said. “I don’t know. I think it’s excessive. It violates the principle of subsidiarily to have highest level of government to open healthcare and welfare services.”

Dr Mealey said it was never clear why the Coalition wanted to “experiment” with an untested national commission concept for one of the most traumatised demographics in the country.

He said after more than 37 reports, inquiries, and previous recommendations nothing has changed for veterans or those still suffering in the ranks.

“So something has to give and there has to be a morality shift in the leadership of the country and the leadership of the Defence Force that starts understanding that their leadership failures have caused over 1,600 deaths and countless lives ruined,” he added.

Many kicks in the nutsack to the many men who have put their lives on the line in service of this country.

Indolent
Indolent
September 5, 2023 6:18 pm
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 5, 2023 6:25 pm

Except the article could well be bollocks on stilts.

It’s bollocks on stilts. Vlad met with Erdogan today. Erdogan knows him well, if the Russians put up a body double it would have quite dangerous diplomatic results. Turks are very attuned to power equations.

Indolent
Indolent
September 5, 2023 6:25 pm
Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 5, 2023 6:27 pm
Indolent
Indolent
September 5, 2023 6:28 pm

Hodgetwins
@hodgetwins

Last week, a friend of ours was raided by the feds over J6, his name is Nathan Hughes and he’s from Fayetteville, Arkansas. Nate was raided by the FBI and arrested at gun point. His girlfriend (who just had a miscarriage) was held at gun point and put in handcuffs. The FBI turned off his security cameras, unplugged his internet, and flipped his house upside down in a search. The feds called the manufacturer of his Liberty Gun Safe and got the passcode to get into it too. All for protesting at the Capitol over 2 1/2 years ago.

He is being charged with crimes related to January 6th. He didn’t assault anyone and he didn’t vandalize anything. He is being labeled a domestic terrorist and a traitor to his country by woke leftists and the media.

Nate is just like us…he’s an outspoken American Patriot…he loves freedom, loves his country, and would do anything to preserve our rights. He’s been fighting to save our country for years now.

He’s also a small business owner with a family that relies on him.

We all know how heated this political climate is getting, but they’ve pushed too far and it’s time for people to speak up for people getting screwed by the system. BLM and Antifa can go burn down our cities and get off the hook, but Trump supporters get raided and rounded up for protesting.

Nate’s legal bills to fight these charges will be over $100,000, so we’re donating $5,000 to Nathan’s defense fund to start it out, and hope you can donate something too. Link in next tweet.

mem
mem
September 5, 2023 6:30 pm

Whocounts the cats/

Federal Environment Minister Tanya Plibersek said tackling invasive species was a priority of the Albanese government.
“Australia is the mammal extinction capital of the world and cats have played a role in two-thirds of mammal extinctions over the last 200 years,” she said.
“Every year, cats kill 2 billion reptiles, birds and mammals in Australia. That’s almost 6 million every night.

(NB This figure is totally made up by modelling and I call bullshit.)
“It’s one of the core goals of our Threatened Species Action Plan, supported by our $224.5 million Saving Native Species fund and $1.1 billion National Heritage Trust.” (Yep follow the money down the Green sewer.)
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-09-05/un-invasive-species-report-biodiversity-loss-australia/102815414

Dot
Dot
September 5, 2023 6:31 pm

A question for cohenite

If sea quarks (momentarily) exist in baryons, why don’t they exist everywhere else? Why is the probability for quark-antiquark pairs to exist greater in baryons?

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 5, 2023 6:33 pm

The LDP/Libertarian Party, Craig Cameron and Aboriginal elders and activists are holding a rally against the Voice to Parliament.

With the country set to vote on The Voice in October 2023, the Liberal Democrats NSW is ramping up our campaign to oppose The Voice. The Hon. John Ruddick, The Hon. Ross Cameron, and The Hon. Craig Kelly, will lead the Sydney rally, to say NO! to The Voice, with other exemplary participants including anti-voice indigenous campaigners (Bruce Shillingsworth Sr, Bruce Shillingsworth Jr and Aunty Glenda (a Ngunnawal elder)).

Would that be the Bruce Shillingworth Jr who has just received a jail sentence?

One protester has pointed angrily at a jury, while others have loudly exclaimed in dismay, after two men were found guilty over their roles in the destructive fire that damaged Old Parliament House.

Cries of “no!” emanated from the public gallery in the ACT Supreme Court on Monday, when the jury found Bruce Shillingsworth jnr, 32, guilty of aiding and abetting arson.

Jurors had, moments earlier, found co-offender Nicholas Malcolm Reed, 32, guilty of arson.

The jury deliberated for less than a day before returning the verdicts, holding the pair responsible for the December 2021 blaze that caused $5.3 million worth of damage to the historic Canberra building.

CCTV and police body-worn camera footage formed the basis of the case against Reed and Shillingsworth, who were involved in anti-government protests at the time in question.

From the Molonglo Pravada.

miltonf
miltonf
September 5, 2023 6:35 pm

NB This figure is totally made up by modelling and I call bullshit.

yes by some canbra pube

Indolent
Indolent
September 5, 2023 6:35 pm
Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 5, 2023 6:35 pm

Oops. Not received a jail sentence – yet. Just found guilty.

Dot
Dot
September 5, 2023 6:39 pm

I don’t judge, but if a lot of Indigenous folk are against the Voice, it seems like a bad idea to me!

Indolent
Indolent
September 5, 2023 6:39 pm
Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 5, 2023 6:44 pm

An area the size of Tasmania covered in wind and solar is the actual plan.
These clowns are deliberately targeting the best arable land (disturbed) in order to avoid the sacred forests and spiritual zones.
They will substantially impact food production and cut billions out of Ag returns. We are talking about millions of hectares.

miltonf
miltonf
September 5, 2023 6:46 pm

Yes they are stupid and evil.

Tom
Tom
September 5, 2023 6:49 pm

Ex-union hack Tony Sheldon, of the Transport Workers Union, never forgave Allan Joyce for defeating the union thugs in 2011 when he grounded Qantas’s international fleet rather than give in to the TWU’s wage demands.

Now, with the trade union party in power, Sheldon wants QAN chairman Richard Goyder’s head on a pike — Joyce having made himself unavailable for beheading after he left the Qantas building today in disgrace months before he was supposed to exit.

Joyce was a useful idiot for the ALP only as long as he wasn’t sacrificing votes of the Green/Teal-voting middle class being forced to pay higher international air fares and threatening Elbow’s inner-Sydney seat and those of other ALP federal cabinet members.

But being a pouve still isn’t worth a single vote at trade union headquarters in Sussex Street, Sydney, bruvver.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 5, 2023 6:52 pm

Masked Lapwings eh. Mrs just sent me footage of 3 sulphur crested cockatoo’s deliberately stirring the nesting plovers in the easement out the back of my place.

Very amusing as the buggers were doing it in trios and from different palm trees so completely bamboozling the birds and sending them nuts.

Usually as KD described the pre teen boys out there bugging the hell out of them. Also a similar survival rate of young after the local cats, snakes and falling into storm drains have had their way with them.

calli
calli
September 5, 2023 6:52 pm

Tom, it all seems to have come unstuck the moment Albo’s son was given entry into the Chairman’s Lounge and that was made public.

Albo, of course, is conveniently overseas again.

Cassie of Sydney
September 5, 2023 6:58 pm

” it all seems to have come unstuck the moment Albo’s son was given entry into the Chairman’s Lounge and that was made public.”

Yep, that was the start of the derailment.

If Joyce’s replacement had any guts she’s immediately reneg on Nathan’s membership.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 5, 2023 7:01 pm

Tom, it all seems to have come unstuck the moment Albo’s son was given entry into the Chairman’s Lounge and that was made public.

Something that should still being pursued but isn’t. I get that he is kissed having the lineage he has to open doors most of us can’t, such is life but for a 23 yo grad to land a membership to this sort of exclusive club is a bridge too far and as far as I’m concerned (Looking at you Littleproud) not off limits.

Roger
Roger
September 5, 2023 7:01 pm

It all started to become unstuck the moment Joe Aston did what journalists are supposed to do.

Tom
Tom
September 5, 2023 7:02 pm

Calli, the point of my post is that union hacks like Tony Sheldon are always rewarded with lucrative senate seats and support staff to conduct vendettas on their behalf when the ALP returns to government.

Sheldon is just another union parasite who’s never had a real job.

calli
calli
September 5, 2023 7:02 pm

And lost in all the squid ink is the Qatar Airlines decision, which is at the heart of the crony deal. The source of the stink if you like.

Roger
Roger
September 5, 2023 7:07 pm

If you thought it not possible to loathe Frydenburg any more than you already do…

I’ve never conceded that point.

Morrison’s financial enabler has much more to offer, I’m certain of it.

miltonf
miltonf
September 5, 2023 7:08 pm

So Littleproud is another member of the so called opposition that actually assists the government or ‘work with’. Puke making.

Indolent
Indolent
September 5, 2023 7:11 pm
Tom
Tom
September 5, 2023 7:19 pm

And lost in all the squid ink is the Qatar Airlines decision, which is at the heart of the crony deal.

Correct, Calli.

Nothing bad ever happens as a result of competition, especially to protected quasi-monopolies like Qantas. The trade union party government has abandoned compeitition reform.

Alan Joyce. who I have until now generally supported, became a crony capitalist scammer no different from the subsidy miners using government subsidies to enrich themselves.

Roger
Roger
September 5, 2023 7:21 pm

Plibersek going after cats at a time when the Yes “grassroots” campaign is reliant on the Friends of the ABC for manpower is a political timing error of Albanesean proportions.

Pogria
Pogria
September 5, 2023 7:22 pm

Federal Environment Minister Tanya Plibersek said tackling invasive species was a priority of the Albanese government.

Should start with getting rid of the invasive Blabbersack species of parasite.

Cassie of Sydney
September 5, 2023 7:24 pm

Amazing what journalists can do when they’re curious.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 5, 2023 7:26 pm

Watching a video discussing Elon Musk & the DOJ.
It’s paywalled so can’t share.
They’re basically outlining the DOJ investigation into his companies.
Originally the DOJ was probing his ecosystem to see if Elon had anyone working for him who didn’t have the relevant security clearances.
Not just SpaceX, there are other businesses that also require it.
The DOJ only flipped it to not employing undocumented workers when they came to the conclusion that Elon was 100% compliant with adhering to the security clearance standard.
The DOJ needs to be cleaned out.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 5, 2023 7:27 pm

And lost in all the squid ink is the Qatar Airlines decision, which is at the heart of the crony deal. The source of the stink if you like.

Tip of the iceberg you suspect. The Mangy Roo has always represented the worst of crony capitalism.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 5, 2023 7:30 pm

Channel surfing before & swung past Sharri.
Two observations.
Liz Storer is hot…she had a body hugging number on…wow.
& Paul Murray need to lose some weight. Seriously, I am worried about his health.

Roger
Roger
September 5, 2023 7:31 pm

Amazing what journalists can do when they’re curious.

And backed by their employer.

You can be sure political pressure was applied.

Tom
Tom
September 5, 2023 7:33 pm

Amazing what journalists can do when they’re curious.

Correct, Cassie.

Most brainwashed university-educated Australian journalists now see themselves as ideological enforcers for the Greens and the ALP, not the public’s eyes and ears.

MatrixTransform
September 5, 2023 7:35 pm

… sixty thousand millennia?
Gee that’s a long time

nonsense … it’s only 60 x 3 x 3

… but check with sancho to be sure

Mark from Melbourne
Mark from Melbourne
September 5, 2023 7:37 pm

An area the size of Tasmania covered in wind and solar is the actual plan.

Gez, that “plan” only intends (as I understand it) to support – I use the term loosely – what is basically current output.

Factor in economic growth (unlikely in the circumstances) or expected growth in those wonderful EVs I keep hearing about. and Victoria looks to be the minimum bound. On a good day, with a following breeze.

The whole thing is nuts. Turtles all the way down.

mem
mem
September 5, 2023 7:38 pm

Cassie of Sydney
Sep 5, 2023 7:24 PM
Amazing what journalists can do when they’re curious.

Pogria
Sep 5, 2023 7:22 PM
“Federal Environment Minister Tanya Plibersek said tackling invasive species was a priority of the Albanese government.”

Should start with getting rid of the invasive Blabbersack species of parasite.

mem
Sep 5, 2023 6:30 PM

Who counts the cats?

Federal Environment Minister Tanya Plibersek said tackling invasive species was a priority of the Albanese government.
“Australia is the mammal extinction capital of the world and cats have played a role in two-thirds of mammal extinctions over the last 200 years,” she said.
“Every year, cats kill 2 billion reptiles, birds and mammals in Australia. That’s almost 6 million every night.

(NB This figure is totally made up by modelling and I call bullshit.)
“It’s one of the core goals of our Threatened Species Action Plan, supported by our $224.5 million Saving Native Species fund and $1.1 billion National Heritage Trust.” (Yep follow the money down the Green sewer.)
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-09-05/un-invasive-species-report-biodiversity-loss-australia/102815414

A good journalist would follow this down the rabbit hole.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 5, 2023 7:41 pm

TE, you still in Greece?

From Oz Cyclone Chasers, seems one of the team is in Greece. The below is from their website. Wordwall warning:

From Nitso

Add to that now we have upcoming record breaking 2-3 day rain totals to start Autumn with the intense rain beginning this morning as a Mediterranean Low creates convergence and the Greek Mountains force that warm air from the Aegean Sea to lift sharply they will see North East Queensland intensity rainfall over the next couple of days in areas that aren’t well equipped to handle it.

Mediterranean Lows aren’t really that new they happen most years but the frequency of them is increasing slightly and what’s concerning is that they are happening earlier in Autumn. That means they’re (and most importantly their convergence bands are) tapping into energy and heat that they don’t normally have access to with waters in some areas of the Med as of this morning still capable of actually supporting a surface based heat engine (I.e a Tropical Cyclone) and temps in the Aegean Sea almost as warm. A Mediterranean hurricane or subtropical Low can rarely can produce the totals shown (up to 600mm in 2-3 days and widespread 200 plus) here over such a short space of time when they occur late in Autumn (most common times for Med Lows) or in Winter as the moisture carrying capacity of the atmosphere diminishes and rarer still would be its ability to produce these sorts of intense falls over such a large land area.

Anyway Nitso says that part of Greece is difficult chase country with mountains everywhere and small villages (not major cities thankfully except for Larissa which will miss the worst of it) interspersed with the road network and patchy public transport making it difficult to move as services are cancelled this morning. The rest of us at occ think they’re just excuses and he just wants to laze on the beach in another part of Greece. Whatever the reason I’m sure the Greeks would want him to go back home soon and take his Aussie weather of droughts/bushfires/high temps and North Queensland style flooding rains back with him.

Image below is the forecast rainfall for Central Greece over the next 3 days with falls up to 600mm possible (most falling in the next 24 hours). Note the big Greek cities of Athens and Thessaloniki have been largely spared from this rain setup. Image thanks to windy.com

Cassie of Sydney
September 5, 2023 7:51 pm

I’m going to go out on a limb here, I don’t like Joyce, he strikes me as a smug little arsehole however Joyce was a good CEO, for a time. He certainly had the backing of shareholders for a long time. He was right to ground the fleet when the unions tried to stymie the airline. The problem with Joyce was that things began to go awry when he started to meddle in political and social causes, such as SSM, when he should have kept the airline neutral. That meddling left a bad taste in people’s mouths. Then came Covid, when the airline was grounded. That was the fault of the Morrison Liberal government, togethre with various state governments. Qantas should have refunded flights back in 2020. That was a big mistake. However the Covid disaster, combined with the increased “indigenisation” of the airline, has alienated and rankled people, and then the icing on the cake was the Qatar deal and awarding little Nathan Albanese Tebbutt membership of the Qantas lounge.

I suspect it all went to little Alan’s head. He made other mistakes too, such selling shares whilst CEO.

But I can do without all round thug unio Tony Sheldon popping his head up and sanctimoniously preaching about Qantas and the little leprechaun. Spare me.

Min
Min
September 5, 2023 7:52 pm

I can’t believe Josh would have done that his Mum Erica is a psychologist and we fought hard to get PTSD recognised in the ADF . This problem is the result of ongoing PTSD

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 5, 2023 7:53 pm

Ben Wyatt lends star power to Voice Yes campaign, Libby Mettam in No camp slams ‘virtue signalling’
Rebecca Le MayThe West Australian
Tue, 5 September 2023 5:28PM
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Former senior McGowan Government Minister Ben Wyatt has lent his star power to the Yes campaign, saying he’s “very optimistic” WA will back the proposed Indigenous Voice to Parliament despite polling showing support in the State is among the nation’s lowest.

Mr Wyatt was the main drawcard at his first Yes 23 campaign press conference on Tuesday, where national campaign director Dean Parkin seemingly swayed at least one passing voter to the affirmative side in front of the media pack.

“My view is very optimistic,” Mr Wyatt said.

“Western Australians have more experience with Aboriginal policy than most States in the nation and the best example is native title.

“Western Australians are going to embrace this when it comes to the crunch on the 14th of October because I also know that Western Australia is not going to accept the status quo.

“They don’t accept the fact that millions of dollars have been spent to get not just no outcomes, but actually see outcomes go backwards.”

Asked why the Albanese Government pushed ahead with the vote despite failing to secure bipartisan support, Mr Wyatt replied: “There was never going to be a bipartisan opportunity, in my view, unfortunately”.

“I speak to a lot of friends and colleagues, historically Liberal voters who are voting Yes,” he said.

“So I think the Liberal Party itself will be surprised by the level of consensus that is out there.”

Now a corporate high-flyer on the boards of companies including Woodside and Rio Tinto, the former Treasurer and Aboriginal Affairs Minister backed Prime Minister Anthony Albanese only recently setting a date, saying it avoided a “long, frustrating campaign”.

The same Rio Tinto that blew up the caves at Juankan Gorge? Mr Wyatt doesn’t have any problem taking their money?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 5, 2023 7:54 pm

Cockatoos are amazing, like all parrots. Birds are something else again.

Here’s a rescued cockatoo who is enjoying his life once rescued.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 5, 2023 7:55 pm

Bruvvas have not missed the opportunity. No prizes for guessing who the ALPBC went to for comment.

Cassie of Sydney
September 5, 2023 7:59 pm

And Alan Joyce, by cosying up to Sleazy, made himself an easy target.

Pogria
Pogria
September 5, 2023 8:17 pm
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 5, 2023 8:21 pm

Cockatoos are amazing

The sulfur crested cockies are the smartest Cafe denizens. I had an adult and a young one on the Hills Hoist today, the young one was wary. Wouldn’t let me come near. So I stood right next to the adult and gave her bread, and said nice things. Sure enough young one overcame his wariness, crept along the support and gingerly took the bit of bread I offered him. Which he’d refused to do until I stood right next to his mum. They can reason that if you are friendly to another of their kind then you are friendly to them too, which is quite a conceptual leap.

132andBush
132andBush
September 5, 2023 8:25 pm

Cockatoos are amazing, like all parrots. Birds are something else again.

Great video, Lizzie.
Reminds me of my best mate’s cocky, Les.
Les was an all round lunatic, bopping to music, acting as guard dog (he used to bark), necking empty stubbies and cans to get the dregs, sitting on your shoulder and saying “ARRRR” (Pirate style), nibbling at your ear, swearing etc. He was my mates pride and joy.
Then one day Les laid an egg! Which, when word finally got out thanks to a near sobbing with laughter wife, necessitated a name change to Leslie and a period for my mate of copping the most merciless shyte stirring from the rest of us.
Just about the funniest thing I’ve ever seen.
Bloody hell I miss him.
And Leslie

Dot
Dot
September 5, 2023 8:28 pm

Surely we can trust a KGB Lt Col and the commander of the Qods Forces.

Dot
Dot
September 5, 2023 8:33 pm

What’s the point of going after Assange?

To let him go into American custody would merely protect people like Hillary Clinton.

Vault 7 was absolutely amazing. Why should Assange be punished for shedding light on the (often illegal) CIA’s spying activities against civilians globally?

Delta A
Delta A
September 5, 2023 8:40 pm

Thanks Bruce of Newcastle and Mark from Melbourne for replying to my question. I do need to spend time deciphering your replies – especially yours, BoN, – but I have them there in case my simple statement comes under fire.

KevinM
KevinM
September 5, 2023 8:40 pm

Indolent,
for once I followed your link to Scott Ritter’s interview.

Very interesting, some of his recollections I doubt, but his view about the sanctions on Russia is spot on.

You can hold back development of a small landlocked country with little or no natural resources, but not some like Russia.
The sanctions only made them more self reliant.

Not to mention that they don’t really work anyway, Belgium and Spain had imported the largest amount of Russian LNG since ever this year, despite EU prohibition

Lee
Lee
September 5, 2023 8:59 pm

It’s an absolute disgrace that voting for a senate inquiry into Qantas/Qatar only got up by one vote.

Even more disgracefully, the Green scum voted against it.

miltonf
miltonf
September 5, 2023 9:00 pm

But it still got up? That’s good

JC
JC
September 5, 2023 9:15 pm

Dot
Sep 5, 2023 8:33 PM

What’s the point of going after Assange?

He’s the equivalent of a J6er. Anyone that screws over the demonrats will rot in jail. Not setting him free was one of Trump’s big mistakes.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 5, 2023 9:20 pm

I do need to spend time deciphering your replies – especially yours, BoN

Oops, sorry. 😀

The whole grid renewables thing is so complex it’s hard to wrap your head around it. Bowen certainly hasn’t. AEMO sort of has, enough to say Oh Shit a few days ago. And they’re supposed to be in charge of it all.

I’m happy to help with advice where I can. Other Cats are probably better than me though.

Black Ball
Black Ball
September 5, 2023 9:28 pm

Made the mistake of leaving it on ABC where Mother And Son came on. Apparently Arthur is going to be a sperm donor. To a lesbian couple.
Now the mother is burying the chook in the backyard and they are all dressed in black.
I can’t remember the first installment so does the above storyline in any way similar to what was first screened? Or should I just assume that no is the answer to this question?

JC
JC
September 5, 2023 9:32 pm

Indolent
Sep 5, 2023 6:25 PM

Qantas CEO Alan Joyce Steps Down Early After Horror Final Weeks

Joyce’s big mistake was not paying back the money for cancelled flights. Everything else they were trying to pin on him was absolute bullshit.

The freaking government closed down aviation! The business had massive overhead, and if the government shuts it down, the state has an obligation to pay the costs. That’s exactly what occurred, and because Qantas made a good profit, the liars and the rest of the parasitic pack wanted Q to pay back some of the compensation. Are you freaking kidding me?

Joyce made a mistake, and I still maintain the Irish dwarf was the best CEO in the business. Of course he wasn’t perfect, but look at the rest.

At the beginning of each crisis (GFC and COVID) the first thing the gay dwarf did was raise capital. Absolutely masterful CEO action.

I can’t believe this place at times. The main carrier made a decent profit and people are dissing it for that reason only? Just sad.

Joyce should put out one single press release., which reads

” Fcuk you”!

JC
JC
September 5, 2023 9:33 pm

Aussie dollar is fcked. Lows of the year.

Perfidious Albino
Perfidious Albino
September 5, 2023 9:33 pm

Seriously, we sent Mong for Kooyong to the US to make special pleadings for Assange?! Such gravitas…

JC
JC
September 5, 2023 9:35 pm

Our biggest export partner (China) looking like it’s heading over a cliff. PMI (purchasing managers report) shows more contraction and here is our government ware totally focused on the Squeal. FMD.

Perfidious Albino
Perfidious Albino
September 5, 2023 9:35 pm

Still, if they pull it off, it will be worth it to see Wong marginalised in salty.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
September 5, 2023 9:37 pm

Lee Sep 5, 2023 8:59 PM
It’s an absolute disgrace that voting for a senate inquiry into Qantas/Qatar only got up by one vote.
Even more disgracefully, the Green scum voted against it.

I’m old enough to remember when Qatar was bringing stranded Aussies home while Qantas was … cancelling flights.

JC
JC
September 5, 2023 9:50 pm
JC
JC
September 5, 2023 10:11 pm

Has anyone seen the vids of those moronic Florida Nazis? I’m not going to link them because they’re so disgusting. One thing made me LOL about them though. They said they didn’t like Trump because his kids married Jews and they supported Ron DeSantis.

cohenite
September 5, 2023 10:17 pm

Has anyone seen the vids of those moronic Florida Nazis?

They’re FBI plants. I put up a link the other day. Keep up or I’ll stimulate your lazy brain with a cute owl.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
September 5, 2023 10:22 pm

Math Genius Explains Why Women Are Now Forced to Date Down
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXiiHRC2UD0

But I’ll save you the click if you trust me to summarise it. 1. When men make more money than women, Feminazis argue it must be unfair and lobby the government to pass laws and intervene in the labour market to force women to be paid as much salary as men. 2. Then women demand that the men they date make more money than the women do (“dating up”) and if they can’t they are a loser. 3. The desperate men are told to go out and work smarter and climb the ladder and make more money, and if by some miracle, in spite of all the legal barriers put up against it, they do make more money than the women, the cycle repeats.

JC
JC
September 5, 2023 10:23 pm

Really, you think they’re FBI plants?

They sound pretty legit, Cronkite.

If they were plants why would they say they support DeSantis and not Trump. The swamp would be using them to dis Trump, no?

Bonehead can’t be an FBI plant. Look at him!

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
September 5, 2023 10:33 pm

JC Sep 5, 2023 9:50 PM

My Lord he’s good.

yes but not perfect. At 3:46 he says he “would not have nominated phony slates of Electors”. As a matter of law, the State legislatures can nominate whoever they want, and they wanted to do so, there was nothing phony about them, but they were prevented. The election was phony, not the States’ electors.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
September 5, 2023 10:38 pm

JC Sep 5, 2023 10:11 PM
Has anyone seen the vids of those moronic Florida Nazis? I’m not going to link them because they’re so disgusting. One thing made me LOL about them though. They said they didn’t like Trump because his kids married Jews and they supported Ron DeSantis.

We’ll see more of this. The way the liberal left & US MSM lose their rag over a few low IQ white blokes in matching shirts will see more them appear in public, purely for the lolz.

Dot, the first thought is they’re feds, especially considering the timing & the nature of their appearance.
The more you look at them, the easier it is to believe they’re real.

Blokes like that exist. I’ve known (as in, crossed paths with) some of these fellers.
Visit some headbanger clubs & dens, you’ll see a few. They’re weird, & they hold day jobs where this side of them doesn’t necessarily come out, but they exist.

They’ll really get some kicks from causing the liberal left/MSM to have an attack of the vapours every time a few tattooed white blokes go for a walk in matching shirts & sprout some garbled vaguely political waffle.

Rosie
Rosie
September 5, 2023 10:41 pm

I suspect the feral animal fund is a way to allocate more funds to Aboriginals, you know, cat lkilling rangers.

JC
JC
September 5, 2023 11:05 pm

Dover

Arrested? Was he convicted? Was there a trial?

JC
JC
September 5, 2023 11:08 pm

Just get it right? Is it bonehead or boneface?

JC
JC
September 5, 2023 11:22 pm

The suspense is finally over. It’s boneface.

Someone commented about his dental health. He’s not getting dental care because his dentist Is Jewish hahahahaha

JC
JC
September 5, 2023 11:25 pm

Dover

It does matter because arrest doesn’t mean he’s banned from flying although it’s likely he’s on a watch list.

Those morons looked legit.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 5, 2023 11:27 pm

Yoorrook Commission’s recommendations are ‘taste of what we can expect’ if voice to parliament is enshrined, says Jacinta Price.

By rachel baxendale
Victorian Political Reporter
@rachelbaxendale
and joe kelly
National Affairs editor
@joekellyoz
10:15PM September 5, 2023
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Coalition frontbencher Jacinta Nampijinpa Price has warned recommendations made by Victoria’s Indigenous “truth-telling” commission “lower expectations” for Aboriginal people, will not solve the problems that lead to over-representation in the criminal justice and child protection systems, and are “just a taste” of what to expect if the voice to parliament is enshrined in Australia’s Constitution.

The opposition Indigenous ­affairs spokeswoman’s concerns were echoed by Victorian Indigenous leader Ian Hunter, who said some of the demands made in the Yoorrook Justice Commission’s report, handed down on Monday, would result in an “apartheid” system with “one rule for blackfellas and another for everyone else”.

Premier Daniel Andrews ­responded to concerns that the demands would result in separate justice systems for Indigenous and non-Indigenous Victorians by declaring the state’s Koori Court to have been a “stunning success”. However, Mr Andrews indicated his government was unlikely to meet the “ambitious” 12-month timeline set by the commission to respond to its 46 recommendations.

Indigenous leader Marcia Langton and former Liberal Indigenous affairs spokesman Julian Leeser, both voice proponents, argued the issue had “nothing to do with the voice”, which would only advise parliament and the executive government.

Victorian First People’s Assembly co-chair Rueben Berg said any demands would be ­“subject to ongoing negotiations with the government over the coming years”.

The report into Victoria’s child protection and criminal justice systems argued present-day failures were “deeply rooted in the colonial foundations of the state of Victoria”, which were “predicated on beliefs of racial ­superiority”.

It called for “decision-making power, authority, control and resources” in both child protection and criminal justice to be transferred to Indigenous Victorians; detention for children under 16 to be abolished; Victoria Police to “take into account an Aboriginal person’s unique background and systemic factors when making decisions on cautioning or diversion” and; courts to similarly ­account for “the unique systemic and background factors affecting First Peoples” when sentencing Indigenous offenders.

“deeply rooted in the colonial foundations of the state of Victoria”, – Keep picking at the scabs the wounds will never heal…

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 5, 2023 11:31 pm

G’day Rockdoctor, yes still in Greece.

Just came over a terrific Frog-built bridge from the Peloponnese peninsula down the south-west of the country. It bucketed down last night for several hours, but no flooding that we saw. Forecast is stormy but only about 20-30mm of rain tops.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
September 6, 2023 12:01 am

ABC NorthQld: Rangers in North Queensland have fined a four-wheel drive owner and towing company after their “deep wheel ruts” scared protected wetlands.

John H.
John H.
September 6, 2023 1:36 am

Kim Jong-un to meet with Vladimir Putin in Russia to discuss ‘food for guns’ Idea

This can’t be true. If it is so much for all those claims about Russia not being impacted by sanctions and having a production capacity NATO can only dream about.

Muddy
Muddy
September 6, 2023 2:28 am

Indolent’s link at 6:28 p.m. last night mentioned an alleged 6 Jan individual being raided. While I don’t know of those particular circumstances, I’ll repeat what I wrote recently: That the mystery person/s responsible for making & planting the two pipe b@mbs nearby has seemingly escaped the attention of security services and (mostly) the media. Generally I’m sceptical of what were once quaintly known as ‘conspiracy theories,’ but the over-emphasis on hunting trespassers* simultaneous with the apparent nothing-to-see-here approach to the use of explosive devices (regardless of their functional status), the latter which would add the missing substance to allegations of a conspiracy, is deeply suspicious.

* I believe that anyone involved in allegedly damaging property or assault, should be investigated & potentially prosecuted within the normal parameters of the law as it applied in that jurisdiction. The resources which must have been consumed to pursue convictions (and detentions without charge) for trespass without damage, must be astronomical & appear far beyond proportionate (which one supposes is the point being conveyed: We control EVERYONE’S fate).

In the undeclared information conflict, the media is a state-sponsored militia.

Back to insomnia now.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 6, 2023 2:40 am

Seems a bit of trouble at mill down in Victoria with their new separatism:

Mr Hunter, a Wurundjeri elder and uncle of Yoorrook Justice Commission deputy Sue-Anne Hunter, seized on Mr Andrews’ comments about the success of the Koori Court, saying the Premier should familiarise himself with the case of 22-year-old Alisha Fagan, who last month was sentenced by the court to 2½ years’ jail with a non-parole period of six months over the death of 69-year-old grandfather Sedat Hassan.

When her car collided with Hassan’s, Fagan was a suspended learner driver on four sets of bail for driving offences. She had been drinking, and was speeding 28km/h over the limit in a residential street.

“They’re getting lenient sentences, and they want them to be even more lenient,” Mr Hunter said. “The irony is that if we were going to have a traditional sentencing situation, the grandfather’s family would have the right to spear her (Fagan). Do they want traditional customary retribution? I don’t think so.

“I’m glad they (Yoorrook) are bringing up this rubbish, because it’s going to make more people more determined to vote no to the voice. It’s everything that’s wrong with the voice. It’s apartheid. It’s one rule for blackfellas and another for everyone else.

Oz

Bruce in WA
September 6, 2023 3:11 am

American toilet paper is far, far softer than ours.

It also tears far, far easier than ours.

That is all.

Gabor
Gabor
September 6, 2023 3:36 am

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Bruce in WA
Sep 6, 2023 3:11 AM

American toilet paper is far, far softer than ours.
It also tears far, far easier than ours.
That is all.

Not a traveler, I’m grateful for that info, will keep it mind.

Tom
Tom
September 6, 2023 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
September 6, 2023 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
September 6, 2023 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
September 6, 2023 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
September 6, 2023 4:08 am
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Tom
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Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
September 6, 2023 4:11 am
Johnny Rotten
September 6, 2023 4:32 am

Thanks for the Toons Tom.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 6, 2023 4:32 am

From the Peloponnese peninsula…

In the beautiful Lousios river gorge, is the Byzantine Old Philosophos Monastery, dating from 964AD. The buildings cling to the steep cliffs and their walls are crenelated, which allowed the monks to repel attackers whenever the occasion arose. We didn’t stay long because for the first time of our trip, a storm blew up, complete with lightning and thunder. No connection to our visit I assume. For hikers, this is part of the famous Menalon Trail.

We drove on to Kalavryta where there is skiing in the winter. Very mountainous. The temperatures dropped dramatically and we had rain overnight. We had snug accommodation complete with fireplace, giving some hint of the winter temperatures – there are plenty of ski lodges around, mostly closed at present.

In Kalavryta we visited the memorial to the massacre which took place there on 13 December 1943. After an operation against Greek guerrilla fighters, the German Army massacred all of the male inhabitants of the village, machine-gunning 438 of them, including boys down to the age of 12. The women and children were then rounded up and locked inside the school which was then lit. An Austrian soldier left an escape route open, so most escaped. The monument was most impressive and included the victims’ names. The Chancellor of Germany visited in some year back, and apologised to the people of the village.

Cassie of Sydney
September 6, 2023 5:37 am

Unsurprising – the IRGC’s General Qasim Soleimani, who did more than anyone else (much more than any American, especially) to organise the defences in Iraq & Syria in 2014-2015 against Daesh & the ‘moderate rebels’ jihadis while Obama etal dithered. #Realpolitik
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Connolly is correct (as he usually is).

Further to this, and it relates directly to Ukraine because the roots of the Russian invasion of Ukraine also stem from the inept and woeful Obama administration, particularly the coup in 2014.

I don’t mind justified criticism of the Russian invasion of Ukraine, but what I can’t tolerate is this adolescent, romantic and misty eyed view that Vladimir Putin is all evil (he’s not), that Ukraine is some plucky little country that never did anything to stoke Russia (not true), and that the West is always heroic and on the side of the good guys (again, not true).

In late 2013, 2014, 2015, and 2016, when Obama was president, the West stood back and did virtually NOTHING whilst ISIS and Daesh scum ran amok through Syria and Iraq, destroying Aramaic speaking Christian communities in the cradle of Christianity, communities that dated back until the time just after Jesus, raping and enslaving Christian and Yazidi females, butchering Christian and Yazidi males. Read my lips….THEY DID NOTHING. In fact, deliberately or not, Western countries such as Britain, France and the US armed jihadi groups that funnelled weapons and money to ISIS and other Islamic terrorist groups. Most of this Western inertia was due to the misty eyed and nonsensical view that Syria would be better off without dictator Assad, a completely absurd notion that fed directly into the ideology of ISIS and Daesh. The truth is that Assad, like Putin, is no likeable democrat, but he ran (and runs) a secular regime where religious minorities and women have equal rights. Sure, Assad isn’t Mr Nice Guy, but don’t be fooled, there’s no such as Mr Nice Guy in the ME, the only democracy being Israel, but the Israelis aren’t so stupid as to know who they’d prefer on their border, Assad and the Russians or ISIS and Daesh? It ain’t rocket science. The Israelis also know that Russia can influence Iran and its proxies, such as Hezbollah (which sits on Israel’s Lebanese border).

I shouldn’t need to remind people here as to who expelled ISIS and Daesh from Syria and parts of Iraq? As we know, it wasn’t the West, they were too busy arming jihadi groups. No, it took the Russian army to move in to cleanse Syria of the jihadis. Now cynics might argue that was simply a PR exercise on the part of Vladimir Putin, designed to provide Russia with a military base on the Mediterranean? Well, I’d say those cynics are partly right, but also, maybe, just maybe, Putin and Russia actually did care (and still care) about the remaining Christian communities in the ME, almost exterminated to oblivion by western armed and financed jihadi group. Going back to the days of the tsars and Imperial Russia, the Russians have long seem themselves as the protector of Orthodoxy in the ME, just like once Christian nations such as Britain and France also saw themselves as protectors of Christians in the ME….all of that has now gone by the wayside as the West has become increasingly militantly secular.

The truth is that few in the West really truly cared about the slaughter of Christians and Yazidis less than a decade ago in Syria and Iraq. Sure they uttered the usual flaccid verbal condemnations, but it was all mealy-mouthed. Thankfully the Russians did care. Instead, back in 2014 you had scum like Victoria Nuland and other Washington insider neocons peddling political and social unrest in Ukraine. Did they not ever think that their stoking of political and social unrest on Russia’s borders would not come back to bite them on the bum? Or is it that they just don’t care about the consequences to their warmongering neocon fantasies and adventures. To those who say Putin is a war criminal I say okay then, prepare the gallows, but the queues for these gallows are long, and well before you tie the noose around Putin’s neck, you can first start by tying the noose around the necks of Nuland, Obama, Biden and others.

Miltonf
Miltonf
September 6, 2023 5:46 am

Spot on Cassie.

Cassie of Sydney
September 6, 2023 5:51 am

I’ve been up since 3.30 a.m. with hideous tooth pain. I’ve taken panadol and Codapane Forte (left over since my op last year). I’ve checked the expiry date….all okay….but given my pain, I dunna care.

Off to the dentist go I (I hate dentists).

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 6, 2023 6:01 am

In fact, deliberately or not, Western countries such as Britain, France and the US armed jihadi groups that funnelled weapons and money to ISIS and other Islamic terrorist groups

As confirmed by the US cables.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 6, 2023 6:17 am

The problem with US foreign policy is that it appears to be either short sighted, profit driven or both.
What were they thinking in Syria?

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 6, 2023 6:17 am

What were they thinking in Libya?

Dot
Dot
September 6, 2023 6:17 am

Which is why Assange should be freed. If you despise what Hillary Clinton has done, he must be freed.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 6, 2023 6:19 am

Which is why Assange should be freed.

One million upticks.
Organic upticks, of course.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 6, 2023 6:21 am

Most of the money that the US has pissed up against the wall since 2001 on military adventures could have been spent on out competing China.
Either home or abroad.

Cassie of Sydney
September 6, 2023 6:24 am

Which is why Assange should be freed.

I agree.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 6, 2023 6:28 am

Sorry to hear about the tooth Cassie.
I share your dislike of going to the dentist.
Imagine going to the dentist 50 years ago?
PTSD generators.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 6, 2023 6:35 am

Another 8/10 in the Oz quiz.
Why would a bicycle race be held in Australia in January?
Bonkers.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 6, 2023 7:01 am

The new Qantas boss throwing Joyce under the bus, meeting board and shareholder expectations in the process.

Excellent.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 6, 2023 7:02 am

Anyone else wondering if Qantas is in fact a front organisation for Q?

Hiding in plain sight?

No? Righto then.

Dot
Dot
September 6, 2023 7:07 am

Q Agents Not Telling Any Secrets

Black Ball
Black Ball
September 6, 2023 7:16 am

Rita Panahi giving Alan Joyce a righteous serve:

Goodbye and good riddance, Alan Joyce. Take your undeserved millions – about $100m so far plus a reported $24m golden handshake – and leave the company that once enjoyed unparalleled levels of consumer goodwill.

Joyce took Qantas from the “spirit of Australia” to an overcharging activist airline, one that is facing a record penalty of $250m after being sued by the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission for allegedly engaging in “false, misleading or deceptive conduct”.

Passengers are more likely to have toxic race politics shoved down their throats than experience a premium service.

Whether you’re an occasional traveller grappling with flight credits and hour-long wait times on the airline’s ironically named customer service line or a frequent flyer accustomed to being disappointed by late and cancelled flights, rundown lounges, mediocre service and utterly unnecessary acknowledgements of country messages, it’s clear that Qantas’s credibility has crashed.

I have been writing about Joyce and Qantas’s warped priorities, substandard service and corporate virtue signalling for some time.

A year ago one of my pieces was headlined “Qantas is no longer the spirit of Australia”. It was considered scathing back then but it’s positively mild compared to the headlines the company has copped in recent days, such as “The lying kangaroo” and “Just give it back”, referring to the more than $500m Qantas was attempting to arrogate from customers.

The Qantas board should not have waited for Joyce to prematurely end his farewell tour this week.

It should have shown him the door long ago, and now the focus switches to chairman Richard Goyder and incoming chief executive Vanessa Hudson.

Judging by Goyder’s comments about Joyce’s departure, he still doesn’t get it. Being out of touch may be the norm at the AFL, where Goyder is commission chairman, but one would hope for higher standards in the aviation industry.

It beggars belief that Joyce could sell $17m of his own Qantas shares while the company knew the ACCC was looking into its shoddy conduct.

For confidence to be restored we need to see a dramatically different approach from Hudson and a reckoning for the board.

calli
calli
September 6, 2023 7:18 am

Excellent precis of the ME sh*tshow, Cassie. Thanks.

Amazing how a bit of pain concentrates the mind. Anyway the dentist is better than the toothache. Shame you can’t always opt for the Twilight Zone pain relief. That’s my favourite.

calli
calli
September 6, 2023 7:21 am

Also, I’m very suspicious about making Joyce the whipping boy for everything that’s wrong with aviation. Too convenient.

When the j’lists start doing that, and with the pollies’ permission, you have to start wondering what’s being deflected from. Corrupt behaviour requires two partners, not one.

calli
calli
September 6, 2023 7:23 am

I’d also be looking hard at the Board. Nothing happens without their say-so.

Dot
Dot
September 6, 2023 7:31 am

What’s the time again?

I feel like a Tim Hortons or two.

Cassie of Sydney
September 6, 2023 7:41 am

“I have been writing about Joyce and Qantas’s warped priorities, substandard service and corporate virtue signalling for some time.”

Rita Panahi has long been consistent about the folly of Qantas and other companies and corporations engaging in indulgent woke virtue signalling. A few months ago Panahi rightly asked where the Business Council of Australia and its chief executive, Jennifer Westacott, were regarding this government’s insidious anti-business crusade and industrial relations changes which will stifle and crush business and growth in this country. But as Panahi said, they’ve all been far too busy greasing up to Sleazy and his motley crew, and they’ve far too buy engaging in spruiking woke rubbish such as da Voice, to stick to their knitting, which is business and economic growth. Instead, they’ve preferred to engage in welcome to country, Voice, LGBTQI+ crap, ESG and DEI rubbish, all of which is fundamentally anti-business and anti-growth. Does the CEO of BHP really think that far-left indigenous activists like the Marxists Mayo and Langton really care about business?

Of course one of the biggest woke companies is now BHP, and I read this morning, having been up since 3.30 a.m. with hideous toothache that “BHP has warned that Labor’s industrial relations changes will drive up costs for consumers and businesses, as employers predicted the wages bill will be significantly higher than government claims of $9bn over the next decade”. Geez Louise, I’m no economist but even I could have predicted that.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 6, 2023 7:44 am

This was a bit rich.

New Qantas CEO Vanessa Hudson vows rebuilding trust as first priority (6 Sep)

Rebuild trust eh? So why do you need to rebuild trust? And why, exactly, did you lose trust if you were the Chief Customer Officer and the CFO for all those years?

Well we have a saying here in rightlyland: GWGB. Maybe you should look up what it means.

Cassie of Sydney
September 6, 2023 7:44 am

“Also, I’m very suspicious about making Joyce the whipping boy for everything that’s wrong with aviation. Too convenient.”

Correct.

Peter Greagg
Peter Greagg
September 6, 2023 7:48 am

From the Oz today. Another government brain fart.

The Albanese government’s Southeast Asia envoy has called for taxpayers to help underwrite risky Australian investments in the region in his blueprint to harness the nation’s economic future to the powerhouse countries to Australia’s north.

Former Macquarie Bank boss Nicholas Moore says Australia could triple two-way trade with the region to $534bn a year by providing the raw materials for its growth, targeting its burgeoning middle class, and using Australians’ superannuation savings to build its infrastructure.

Anthony Albanese will release Australia’s Southeast Asia Economic Strategy to 2040 at an ASEAN business reception in Jakarta on Wednesday, where he will declare: “Our economic future lies with Southeast Asia.”
The document urges the government to consider “derisking mechanisms” such as political risk insurance to allow investors to “partly or fully” hedge against unforeseen events and sovereign risk by sharing exposure with government agencies that have “experience and diplomatic leverage”.

“One of the most significant risks faced by foreign investors in Southeast Asian countries is disruption of the operations of companies by governance and regulatory uncertainty,” it says.

“If done right and with the right Australian government agencies involved, this could help reduce risks for Australian investors into Southeast Asia and encourage further investment.”

The strategy identifies 10 priority sectors offering the most potential for growth: agriculture and food; resources; green energy; infrastructure; education and skills; tourism; healthcare; the digital economy; professional and financial services, and; creative industries. It calls for a whole-of-nation effort to boost Australians’ “regional literacy”, remove barriers to trade, and promote our national “brand”. It urges visa changes to streamline movement of people, greater investment in skills to support priority sectors, and a better focus on business start-ups.

Mr Moore says investors will have a significant role to play, calling on the $3.5 trillion superannuation industry to improve its understanding of the region so it can tap emerging opportunities. At the current long-term growth rate of 5.5 per cent, total trade with the 10 ASEAN nations plus East Timor will rise from $178bn to about $465bn by 2040.

But lifting two-way trade growth to 6.3 per cent – 0.8 above the long-term average – would triple total trade with the region to $534bn over the same period, the strategy says.

The Prime Minister, who departed on Tuesday afternoon for the Indonesian capital to attend the ASEAN and East Asia Summits, said Southeast Asia presented a huge opportunity for Australian businesses, “but we haven’t kept pace with their exponential growth”. “This strategy outlines how we can harness this growth, and seize the vast trade and investment opportunities our region presents,” he said.

By 2040, Southeast Asia will be an “economic powerhouse fuelled by favourable demographics, industrialisation, urbanisation and technological advances”, the strategy says. As a bloc, the region is projected to be the world’s fourth-largest economy after the US, China and India.

What could possibly go wrong?

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
September 6, 2023 7:49 am

What were they thinking in Libya?
They were thinking of sinking the Libyan dinara, the gold-based currency that would have become the coin throughout Africa, and so challenge the hegemony of the greenback.
And they did.

calli
calli
September 6, 2023 7:52 am

And why, exactly, did you lose trust if you were the Chief Customer Officer and the CFO for all those years?

Bingo! Yesterday some female reportette was fairly gushing about Australia’s two big airlines now being run by women!

They’re magical, don’t you know.

Dot
Dot
September 6, 2023 8:05 am

They were thinking of sinking the Libyan dinara, the gold-based currency that would have become the coin throughout Africa, and so challenge the hegemony of the greenback.

Libyan gold backed currency?

America doesn’t care.

Indolent
Indolent
September 6, 2023 8:07 am
shatterzzz
September 6, 2023 8:08 am

I’d also be looking hard at the Board. Nothing happens without their say-so.

Never mind sacking or resigning .. there should be a criminal investigation .. knowingly selling non existent seats on “ghost” flights is/should be a criminal offence, as should keeping folks money and offering “future” credit instead of immediate refunds ..
Bit like underpaying wages .. ordinary folk get gaoled for fraud but companies get waved thru ……
we now have 3 layers of law .. the big end of town/251s/ordinary folk ..
but only one of these systems punishes folk regularly .. the 3rd! .. FFS!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 6, 2023 8:09 am

The strategy identifies 10 priority sectors offering the most potential for growth: agriculture and food; resources; green energy; infrastructure; education and skills; tourism; healthcare; the digital economy; professional and financial services, and; creative industries.

LOL. Agriculture and food: we ban live cattle and sheep exports. Resources: they want coal and LNG and we won’t sell it to them. Green energy: which they don’t want. Infrastructure: we can’t even build a pumped storage or electricity interconnector without a major stuff up. Education and skills: gender studies and black armband history is just so useful in SE Asia. Tourism: well maybe, just don’t try climbing Ayers Rock. Healthcare: maybe if we stopped stealing their doctors and nurses they might be better off. The digital economy: we definitely can help there, our censorship tech is world class. Professional and financial services: ask Daniel Andrews about that, he’ll help. Creative industries: well if they like polka dot paintings…

I can’t see why SE Asia would be much interested in what we have to offer really.

Dot
Dot
September 6, 2023 8:11 am

Sure, the BILDERBERG GROUP “orchestrated” the Viet Minh from the first Vietnam War to 1980 when they invaded Cambodia, leading to the US defaulting on war bonds, closing the gold window, massive monetary growth and inflation after coming off the Bretton Woods “gold standard” and the Yom Kippur War and OPEC flexing its muscle as well as disastrous rationing policies.

FMD. Buy me a coffee.

Indolent
Indolent
September 6, 2023 8:11 am

They’re determined to ramp it up again without admitting the quiet part, which is that it’s now just another cold and, like the common cold of old, it mutates far too fast for any vaccine to be of use.

Big Fish
@BigFish3000

Had Covid 3 times and is going to get his seventh jab.
At what point do you realize the shot doesn’t work?

rosie
rosie
September 6, 2023 8:14 am

Let’s not go anywhere near a discussion of Japanese ablution facilities, other than to say what a relief it was to work out how to dial down from fire mode.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 6, 2023 8:14 am

Indonesia is one of our top grain export destinations. Australian Ag companies have bought into mills in that country.
The private sector have been doing business in the region for decades with little fuss and good relationships with their counterparties. It’s only Labor that regularly stuff things up for all.

lotocoti
lotocoti
September 6, 2023 8:20 am

What were they thinking in Libya?

Gaddafi’s past defiances couldn’t be allowed to go unpunished.
It didn’t matter that he’d seen the light. They wanted blood.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 6, 2023 8:21 am

One for Coles and Woolies.

Major UK supermarkets spark confusion with bag searches for customers using self-service (5 Sep)

Shoppers have been left scratching their heads as major supermarkets begin searching bags after they’d already paid at a self-service checkout.

After one Brit shared their experience of having their bag searched on NextDoor, others said they had experienced the exact same thing.

A spark in theft due to the cost of living crisis appears to be pushing supermarkets to crack down on anyone trying to sneak an extra item or two in their bag.

Wow, who knew that if you let the customers scan their own items they might try to cheat? Weird huh?

Then there the problem of what do you do if you actually find someone has been cheating? Citizens’ arrest? Call the police? I don’t think the latter are going to be much interested, they seem too busy chasing non-existent garage nazis.

And anyway if you have to have someone doing bag searches, why not just employ a checkout chick instead and get rid of the self scan section entirely?

Indolent
Indolent
September 6, 2023 8:23 am
Crossie
Crossie
September 6, 2023 8:25 am

Mr Moore says investors will have a significant role to play, calling on the $3.5 trillion superannuation industry to improve its understanding of the region so it can tap emerging opportunities. At the current long-term growth rate of 5.5 per cent, total trade with the 10 ASEAN nations plus East Timor will rise from $178bn to about $465bn by 2040.

They have killed all our industries, except farming and mining, and now wonder where they can invest our own savings. Mr Moore is part of the problem, not the solution.

Tapping into emerging opportunities? Is that like tapping into aboriginal elders, present, past and emerging?

Indolent
Indolent
September 6, 2023 8:25 am
calli
calli
September 6, 2023 8:26 am

what a relief it was to work out how to dial down from fire mode.

Lol! I made a mistake with the buttons and the loo shot the door.

calli
calli
September 6, 2023 8:28 am

And anyway if you have to have someone doing bag searches, why not just employ a checkout chick instead and get rid of the self scan section entirely?

Can’t have that! Harassing customers is much more fun than serving them.

Dot
Dot
September 6, 2023 8:28 am

Libyan GDP was about 0.13% of global GDP in 2012 (95 bn USD).

This was a peak year off oil prices. In 2011 it was under 60 bn USD.

Currently Tasmania, NT and ACT have about 70 bn USD of GSP.

Gaddafi was a corrupt madman with a harem. This gold dinar was going nowhere.

Even if everyone was better off with him staying in power.

Indolent
Indolent
September 6, 2023 8:30 am
Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 6, 2023 8:30 am

Plibbers on the ABC all very knowledgeable about water and rivers.
She thinks a river running dry in a drought should be tackled. It’s entirely natural and the opposite is unnatural.
We are drowning rivers and wetlands with all this environmental water. Mummy Tanya will kill the rivers with kindness.

Dot
Dot
September 6, 2023 8:31 am

Mr Moore says investors will have a significant role to play, calling on the $3.5 trillion superannuation industry to improve its understanding of the region so it can tap emerging opportunities.

Of course…but the fund managers are simply our agents. WE are the investors and we don’t have a choice in the matter.

Crossie
Crossie
September 6, 2023 8:31 am

And anyway if you have to have someone doing bag searches, why not just employ a checkout chick instead and get rid of the self scan section entirely?

You can’t have that. How else will CEOs convince the Boards that they saved the corporations money and deserve to be paid that money instead of shareholders?

Cassie of Sydney
September 6, 2023 8:33 am

“Gaddafi was a corrupt madman with a harem. “

Yeah, but he was secular, and not nearly as mad, bad and dangerous as what came after him.

I don’t recall ever reading about slave markets operating in Tripoli under Gaddafi. But there are now, sub-Saharan black men, women and children for sale in downtown Tripoli.

P
P
September 6, 2023 8:34 am

Calvary inquiry told ‘self-government in ACT not a right’
6 September 2023

Canberra-Goulburn Archdiocese chancellor Patrick McArdle has told a Senate inquiry that self-government in the ACT is not a right. Source: ABC News.

The Senate committee is due to deliver its findings today.

Roger
Roger
September 6, 2023 8:39 am

Yesterday some female reportette was fairly gushing about Australia’s two big airlines now being run by women!

They’re magical, don’t you know.

I wonder what she thinks of Margaret Thatcher.

Roger
Roger
September 6, 2023 8:40 am

If she thinks at all.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 6, 2023 8:40 am

Has anyone got today’s earthquake forecast for Kyoto?

rosie
rosie
September 6, 2023 8:42 am

Speaking of travel, last night we went to the ball game, Swallows v Giants. An arbitrary decision had been made to be Swallows fans so we sat with their supporters.
The mood was always good natured, despite the amount of beer being served by sweat dripped young ladies running around dispensing it from backpack kegs.
When Swallows got a home run all the fans pulled out mini decorative club umbrellas and bobbed them up and down, it was a hoot, a kind lady lent one to my sister so she could join in the fun.
It was another day of dreadful heat but with a little breeze and evening fall it was perfectly tolerable in the stadium. We watched lightning march from left to right on the far side of the stadium but it never got closer than that.
The chants were all in English, I’m not sure why, we left before the ninth to avoid the crush, just as well, Swallows lost.
Also went to Yokahama for the Gundam Factory for grandson robots and the Noodle museum (don’t judge me) and to the Metropolitan Art Museum where we looked at black squiggles on paper and some western style art, much of which was European scenes by Japanese artists.
Translated one to see if it said the location but all we got was ‘white village’.
Japanese have been very kind and friendly, we got chit chatting with three older ladies at morning coffee, one had lived in the US for eight years and translated back and forth. At the end they wanted a group photo as a keepsake.

Johnny Rotten
September 6, 2023 8:43 am

According to the ADL, the numbers 1-11, 109/110, 12, 13, 13/52, 13/90, 14, 14/23, 14/88, 18, 21-2-12, 211, 23, 23/16, 28, 311, 318, 33/6, 38, 43, 511, 737, 83, and 88 are all hate symbols.

The number 88 is a lucky number for the Chinese.

rosie
rosie
September 6, 2023 8:45 am

No earthquakes in Kyoto today thankyou.
We are going to be there this afternoon.
Well maybe just a little one so I can mark off my list.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 6, 2023 8:50 am

rosie

Sep 6, 2023 8:14 AM

Let’s not go anywhere near a discussion of Japanese ablution facilities, other than to say what a relief it was to work out how to dial down from fire mode.

The most complex appliance in the Japanese home. Automatic lids, heated seats, flashing lights, multiple flush and “irrigation” modes.
I have carefully avoided using the fire hose function.
Fearful I might enjoy it.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 6, 2023 8:52 am

Off to the dentist go I (I hate dentists).

All the best for a full recovery, Cassie.

lotocoti
lotocoti
September 6, 2023 8:54 am

According to the ADL…

… the only way to gainsay the 4Chan conspiracists
is to become everything the 4Chan conspiracists
say they are.
Or so it seems.

JC
JC
September 6, 2023 8:55 am

I don’t recall ever reading about slave markets operating in Tripoli under Gaddafi. But there are now, sub-Saharan black men, women and children for sale in downtown Tripoli.

Unfortunately slavery gets an undeserved bad rap these days. 🙂

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 6, 2023 8:55 am

Swallows vs Giants.
Local derby.

shatterzzz
September 6, 2023 8:56 am

Shoppers have been left scratching their heads as major supermarkets begin searching bags after they’d already paid at a self-service checkout.

How would this work if you go with the “no receipt”option? …….?

Roger
Roger
September 6, 2023 8:57 am

‘Cuba claims to have uncovered a “human trafficking network” that coerced its citizens to fight for Russia in the war in Ukraine. ‘

– Reuters

rosie
rosie
September 6, 2023 8:58 am

As a former check out chick, I’d much rather dedicated security check for contraband.
I dont know what tech the British use but in Australia colesworth know if items are left in the trolleys or are excess on the scale on the other side in the bagging area.

Bear Necessities
Bear Necessities
September 6, 2023 9:01 am

Tucker brings on a man who says he was a very happy fellow with Barack Obama. Not there is anything wrong with being a very happy fellow.

rosie
rosie
September 6, 2023 9:02 am

Yep, Sancho, why we chose that game to attend.
Oh and part of the entertainment, the cheer leaders had a baton relay, which Swallows won easily. Woot.
The Giants were short of cheerleaders, and during the rallies, or whatever they call them, a couple of Swallows girls helped them out.

Roger
Roger
September 6, 2023 9:07 am

How would this work if you go with the “no receipt”option?

You do not have to prove your innocence, the police must prove your guilt.

And supermarket staff have no right to search your person or belongings, including your shopping bags, without your consent, although they can detain you if they have a reasonable suspicion that you have committed an offence.

Obviously, if you’ve stolen nothing, cooperating would be advisable. But people should be informed as to their legal rights.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 6, 2023 9:09 am

Japanese Baseball has been highly recommended by Mrs Panzer’s nephew, even if you don’t like sport.

KevinM
KevinM
September 6, 2023 9:13 am

John H.
Sep 6, 2023 1:36 AM

Kim Jong-un to meet with Vladimir Putin in Russia to discuss ‘food for guns’ Idea
This can’t be true. If it is so much for all those claims about Russia not being impacted by sanctions and having a production capacity NATO can only dream about.

I don’t think you have read the whole article. It’s basically a hotch-potch of brain farts.

The fact that the Russian expended less artillery shells lately could be that there was no target to shoot at, maybe?
This is on par with your medicinal expertise. Read but not comprehend but parrot just the same.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 6, 2023 9:16 am

Surely Alan Joyce selling his shares was indulging in what looks like insider trading? Pretty suss, anyway.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 6, 2023 9:18 am

I have carefully avoided using the fire hose function.
Fearful I might enjoy it.

Can always do a Razey. Do you like sushi?

Dot
Dot
September 6, 2023 9:21 am

This is on par with your medicinal expertise. Read but not comprehend but parrot just the same.

Sure, buddy.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 6, 2023 9:21 am

Chin up, Cassie. Oops, that’s what the dentists say. Be brave and remember that your second name for dentistry is pain relief.

Hope it is nothing serious and quickly fixed.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 6, 2023 9:25 am

Surely Alan Joyce selling his shares was indulging in what looks like insider trading? Pretty suss, anyway.

Most companies have a trading window after announcing full and half year results. I’m sure it is fine. Perhaps a question mark against whether a possible ACCC investigation should have been announced to the market ahead of any trade.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 6, 2023 9:27 am

If QAN knew of any possible investigation. Arguably it was uncertain until the ACCC decided to go ahead and did its own media.

Gabor
Gabor
September 6, 2023 9:36 am

Gaddafi was a corrupt madman with a harem.

Corrupt, madman?

I don’t think so, he was just a run of the mill dictator, the kind of leader the ME sadly needs.
Not the way I want live but then I’m not living there, and you can’t change culture overnight, if ever.

Hillarity has a lot to answer for.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 6, 2023 9:45 am

Given the opportunity who wouldn’t run a harem? Although a lot of men would just opt for a quiet life and try to find more time for golf.

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