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Black Ball
Black Ball
June 5, 2024 5:09 pm

Where would we be without academics? I present now the first paragraphs of a report in the Hun:

An independent report says the treatment of First Nations players and their families when at Hawthorn constituted racism.

The report, prepared by Deakin professor Yin Paradies and provided to AFL investigators, also said the families could be subjected to ‘victim blaming’ as a consequence of levelling claims of racism against former coaches Alastair Clarkson, Chris Fagan and Jason Burt.

FMD just shut down this shitshow and fire those responsible for drawing out this dingleberry. False hope springs to mind.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 5, 2024 5:14 pm

How it started.

m0nty

 June 5, 2024 9:44 am

Bruce, …

Where I have a problem is that you think you know better than Fauci. You aren’t fit to shine his boots, scientifically speaking. 

Next step, response to the above.

132andBush

 June 5, 2024 1:21 pm

Seeing as you and your lot are constantly on your knees licking said boots, there’s no need for a shine.

Let’s end this.

Given the adoration shown to Fauci by m0nty and his ilk, not only does Fauci not need to shine his boots, he doesn’t need to buy toilet paper either.

cohenite
June 5, 2024 5:15 pm

feelthebern
 June 5, 2024 4:26 pm

cohenite, there’s a fb/insta page called “Japan Muscle Girl Bar”.
I’ll leave you alone as you book the next available flight.

Been there, done that. As for tough ladies, this is what I’m talking about: mean cute owl:

cute-owl-very-muscular-and-stern
Helen
Helen
June 5, 2024 10:05 pm
Reply to  cohenite

Fake tits
with that amount of body fat no way you can have tits

Helen
Helen
June 6, 2024 11:19 am
Reply to  cohenite

Tits fake. That percentage of body fat has no allowance for tits.

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 5, 2024 5:17 pm

Where would we be without academics? 

In a much better Australia. Dons are a menace and we’d be better off without them.

Chris
Chris
June 5, 2024 5:24 pm

We often hear now that there are more women at university than men.

I would be curious to see a breakdown by discipline. Men vs women in sciences, including engineering, for example. 

The split is alleged to be 60/40 F/M. The other 61 genders are not of interest, apparently.

I too would like to romp through the stats by discipline. When I started Engineering we had two females among the first-years, and they too were ‘that good’.

I have ‘read it said’ (anon/they, 2023) that the imbalance is nowhere near as skewed as implied by the raw number, because a great many nursing and ‘care professions’ are almost 100% female. Making these trades degree-based skews the results dramatically.

Given that Arts faculty (as was) has just about expired from lack of interest, I doubt that the unbalanced females are stacked into the Grievance and Identity Studies schools!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 5, 2024 5:51 pm
Reply to  Chris

The split is alleged to be 60/40 F/M.

Yes, replied to your earlier comment but the blog died. Here you go, I remembered this one is from a couple weeks ago:

The Daily Chart: What Patriarchy? | Power Line (23 May)

I think the Powerline guys have posted data on the gender split by academic field, but I couldn’t find it on their blog.

I did find the data for the US in 2020-21 but it’s paywalled. Didn’t hit the paywall when I initially looked though, and it was exactly as you would expect. Here’s the link fwiw. The dataset is probably available elsewhere if you look hard enough.

Bluey
Bluey
June 5, 2024 7:24 pm
Reply to  Chris

Funny that, I’ve known a couple of females that initially studied under the Soviet system, then went to uni in eastern europe. Demonstratable more competent than home grown, and a far better attitude in general.
Probably a bit of a selection bias, but I still reckon they didn’t rock the shitty attitude.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 5, 2024 5:24 pm

Sweet cheeses, Cohenite. Will you stop doing that! Some of us are preparing for dinner!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 5, 2024 5:52 pm
Reply to  Mother Lode

Beef?

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 5, 2024 6:43 pm
Reply to  Indolent

Indolent, the Queensland Health Department or whatever wokism they call themselves, are still telling people who have had an organ transplant to get the “vaccine” despite the manufacturer insert stating patients with compromised immune systems shouldn’t.
The Department needs a thorough clearing out – with prejudice.

Last edited 9 months ago by BobtheBoozer
Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 5, 2024 5:30 pm

Quenthland news (the CM):

A former couple who repeatedly engaged in having sex with two dogs have avoided a custodial sentence as details of their shameful acts were revealed.

Mum of six Crystal

Aaahahahahaa.

May Hoare

Haaaaaaaahahahaha.

engaged in penile intercourse with the two dogs while her then partner Jay Wade Veenstra filmed the vile conduct.

The scripts – and cast names – write themselves.

Chris
Chris
June 5, 2024 5:38 pm

KD, this is terrible. Cats are not interested in vile stuff like this Queensland behaviour; maybe New Zealanders would be?

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
June 5, 2024 5:44 pm

Hahaha – 2 dogs fcking

132andBush
132andBush
June 5, 2024 7:14 pm

Believe all dogs.

Vicki
Vicki
June 5, 2024 5:37 pm

I have just read the following article in the current Quadrant Online. It is astonishing in its implications. Basically, it investigates the failure of a judge to recuse herself in a case involving the challenge against the release of a Covid vaccine. I have not posted the entire article but will, do so if DB approves and Cats require it.

I think it is an astonishing indictment (if we need more!) of Australia’s failure of authorities to follow procedures in this Covid debacle.

https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/covid/2024/06/after-covid-now-its-the-lawyers-turn/

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 5, 2024 5:41 pm

Bandt says Israel army has engineered a famine
Rhiannon Down
Greens Leader Adam Bandt has defended his party against attacks from Labor and the Coalition accusing his MPs of failing to condemn anti-Semitism, accusing Anthony Albanese of seeking to make the Middle East conflict “about himself”.
“This house is united in condemning anti-Semitism and condemning Islamophobia and we also condemn the invasion of Gaza,” Mr Bandt said.
“Now, I will not be lectured to about peace and non-violence by people who back the invasion of Gaza.
”Children are dying because the Israeli army has engineered a famine, and instead wants to make it about himself.”
Mr Bandt sought indulgence from Speaker Milton Dick to defend his party’s actions on the issue, but it was not granted.

Indolent
Indolent
June 5, 2024 5:41 pm

Dr. John Campbell with Prof. David Anderson

Vitamin D and Global change

Ties in vitamin D deficiency to plan to reduce global population.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 5, 2024 5:48 pm

I suppose we can expect mUnturd to start his next drive-by raid later this evening/early tomorrow, when the DNC Talking Points come out morning US east coast time.

Last edited 9 months ago by Boambee John
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 5, 2024 5:52 pm

Over 2200 ADF personnel sign letter against war crimes
Ben Packham
Defence is considering disciplinary action against officials and serving ADF personnel who have signed an open letter accusing the Australian government of complicity in “the genocide, ethnic cleansing and illegal occupation of Palestine”.
The department’s secretary Greg Moriarty and the Chief of the Defence Force Angus Campbell told a Senate estimates hearing on Wednesday that uniformed and civilian Defence employees were among more than 2200 public servants who had signed the letter.
They said they were still trying to determine how many of their people had done so. The letter called for an end to Australian military exports to Israel including F-35 fighter jet parts.
Mr Moriarty said staff would be reminded of their obligation to be impartial and professional in their public comments.
“My inclination is to proceed to do that quickly,” he said. “We have further options to take formal action in accordance with the APS code of conduct, and certainly the CDF has at his disposal other arrangements in relation to members of the ADF.”
The revelation came as Defence officials defended the sale of Australian F-35 parts which could be used by Israel.
Greens Senator David Shoebridge demanded the government stop selling F-35 parts to Israel, citing regulations that require military sales to not “aggravate an existing threat to international peace and security”.
But deputy secretary Hugh Jeffrey said the F-35 supply chain was a global one, and parts exported by Australia went to the US, which managed the stockpile.
“I think the question of whether or not the F-35 is being employed in the crisis in Israel is not material to the question of whether or not we grant an export permit,” he said.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 5, 2024 6:23 pm

Once, it tended that around 30% of graduate entries to Defence moved to other departments within about six months, in large part because they were not happy to work in an organisation that accepts the use of military force.

Now it seems that they stay, and simply perform poorly, while trying to sabotage the department.

Perplexed of Brisbane
Perplexed of Brisbane
June 5, 2024 6:29 pm

Great, thousands who can’t identify an existential threat to a nation and the necessity to it’s survival of repelling that threat. Fat lot of good they are going to be to Australia.

Chris
Chris
June 5, 2024 6:36 pm

We can tell what kind of human being Shoebridge is by this.

Vicki
Vicki
June 5, 2024 6:42 pm

Good grief! Maybe, if the ADF have these ideologies, we would be better off with mercenaries, as is being proposed.

billie
June 5, 2024 7:42 pm
Reply to  Vicki

It’s not that they have particular ideologies, they just don’t care about the end product of what they do or where it goes.

Most of the public servants in the Dept. Defence would be horrified to think their work ended up with or affected the warfighter.

They don’t even think about it, nor do most of the people around them.

It’s just another step inb their career path, they dont care at all which department they work in or what they do.

A small minority cares, but most don’t.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 5, 2024 6:51 pm

Sack them.
Sack them all.
Sack them with prejudice.

Roger
Roger
June 5, 2024 7:23 pm

The headline contradicts the information supplied in the report.

I suspect the majority of the signatories are Defence public servants, not ADF personnel.

Last edited 9 months ago by Roger
Indolent
Indolent
June 5, 2024 6:15 pm
Boambee John
Boambee John
June 5, 2024 6:16 pm

One of the more worrying stats on the male/female ratio at uni is the domination of teaching by women, both as students and teachers. Boys at school have few male role models.

Chris
Chris
June 5, 2024 6:39 pm
Reply to  Boambee John

Better a high-energy, switched-on female teacher than nothing-doing box-tickers, like some of the males in the trade.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 5, 2024 7:24 pm
Reply to  Chris

What proportion fit in the “high-energy switched-on female teacher”?

Chris
Chris
June 5, 2024 7:33 pm
Reply to  Boambee John

No idea, but our four kids in 20 years family exposure to the school system got some very good teachers; high value males and high value females.
One of those made us wonder if she would be good for our ‘special’ young fella (Engineer-level specialness) because she was out and proud; but she was absolutely great for the kids in her classes.
Only one teacher in all those years exposure was a total dud. Not a male. The school knew what was going on, and she was not re-employed.
However, there are teachers and heads I have known socially that I would doubt had the capacity to identify if their arse was on fire, except if it were in memo. And after someone told them, they would not have had the initiative to put it out.

Last edited 9 months ago by Chris
Indolent
Indolent
June 5, 2024 6:17 pm
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 5, 2024 6:31 pm

Gotta love Labor, they can lie their head off and get away with it.

Latest GDP numbers show we got the Budget ‘exactly right’: Treasurer (Sky News, 5 Jun)

Treasurer Jim Chalmers has given his assessment of the latest economic data released by the Australian Bureau of Statistics on Wednesday.

The Australian Bureau of Statistics revealed on Wednesday the nation’s GDP has grown by 0.1 per cent in the March quarter.

Over the year, Australia’s economy grew by 1.1 per cent.

Mr Chalmers claimed that the numbers show that the Albanese government got the Budget “exactly right”.

In other words factor in immigration and we are in a recession on the basis of GDP per capita. This is “exactly right” apparently. I wonder what “wrong” would be like?

And if you factor in inflation of over 4%pa, vs GDP growth of 0.1% this quarter and I think it’s more than just a recession on a per capita basis.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 5, 2024 11:54 pm

Growth numbers were woeful. Population Ponzi on its last legs. Even ALPBC apologist Kohler openly critical.

Black Ball
Black Ball
June 5, 2024 6:33 pm

Shorter response to Shoebridge:

“Go farketh thyself”

Black Ball
Black Ball
June 5, 2024 6:42 pm

Gotta love Labor, they can lie their head off and get away with it.

Well yes Bruce o Newk, Rita Panahi has a crack:

Anthony Albanese’s culpability in the Direction 99 scandal may run deeper than first thought.

The Prime Minister’s hands are not clean. He is not only the leader of a government that has badly bungled this issue but it has now emerged that his department directly instructed the Department of Home Affairs to formulate a plan to stop the deportation of New Zealand criminals who had significant ties to Australia.

This intervention from the PM, some eight months before Direction 99 came into effect, was reportedly at the behest of then NZ Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern who had made similar requests to the previous Coalition government, and been rightly ignored.

Direction 99 is a ministerial order, issued by the comically incompetent immigration minister Andrew Giles, which has seen hardened criminals including pedophiles and rapists dodge deportation.

The Albanese government has vowed to replace Direction 99 in the coming days and though Giles bears the greatest responsibility for this sorry mess, it’s apparent that Albanese’s department was also invested in allowing foreign born non-citizen criminals, specifically New Zealanders, to avoid deportation if they’d lived in Australia for many years.

Of course, Direction 99 isn’t limited to New Zealanders but its creation was motivated by a desire to appease Ardern after the PM met with her in mid-2022

At the time Albanese claimed such a change was just a matter of common sense. “We will continue to deport people when appropriate,” Mr Albanese said in July, 2022.

“But we will have some common sense apply here. Where you have a circumstance where someone has lived their entire life effectively in Australia with no connection whatsoever to New Zealand, common sense should apply and we will act as friends.”

Call me crazy but there is no “common sense” in allowing non-citizen violent offenders guilty of the most heinous crimes to remain in Australia, whether they’re from NZ or any other corner of the world. If they’ve lived in Australia for many years they’ve had ample opportunity to seek citizenship.

The first obligation of any Australian prime minister and government is to act in the best interests of Australians, not to formulate policies to appease political allies in New Zealand.

Just another day in Labor Land.

Roger
Roger
June 5, 2024 6:45 pm
Reply to  Black Ball

I thought all this was known?

Albo personally granted Ardern’s wish.

Direction 99 flowed from that.

Zippster
Zippster
June 5, 2024 7:19 pm
Reply to  Black Ball

oi! yir kint sind ir scum bik to is

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 5, 2024 6:42 pm

Mother Lode
 June 5, 2024 4:10 pm

We often hear now that there are more women at university than men.

I would be curious to see a breakdown by discipline. Men vs women in sciences, including engineering, for example.

I seem to remember a push to extend the STEM acronym to include another stream which was definitely not sciency.
I suspect this was a thinly disguised attempt to give a sudden boost to wymminses in “hard disciplines”.

Bluey
Bluey
June 5, 2024 7:28 pm
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

Akin to the women in construction push? Where there’s been an explosion in women holding stop go signs, but not in the trades where you need physicality and get dirty?

Alamak!
June 6, 2024 1:28 pm
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

Similar thing in tech world, plenty of new wimmen managing, or pretending to, but almost none at the sharp end where code gets built and systems designed and run.

Roger
Roger
June 5, 2024 6:46 pm
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 5, 2024 6:46 pm

Lysander …

Sancho, it seems (?) the crimes and moving about were between 1993 and 1996?

If so, they’ll be onto Kennett like sh!t on flies.

Not quite.
His pedo career in Education ended, I think, in 1993. But he had been in the Department for years. The clear thrust of the article was that he had been at it for years, right back through the ’70s and ’80s.

Tom
Tom
June 5, 2024 6:49 pm

This is one of the seats I’ll be watching in 2025’s federal election: McNamara, formerly Melbourne Ports, which covers Port Melbourne, South Melbourne, St Kilda and the Jewish stronghold of Caulfield, formerly held by one of the ALP’s defenders of the Jewish community, Michael Danby.

In a three-cornered contest, the ALP member, Josh Burns (32% in 2022), a Caulfield Jew, will run against the Greenfilth (29%) and the Libs (29%) via the LNP’s new candidate Benson Saulo, a young, educated, articulate Aboriginal-PNG Melanesian mixed-race blackfella.

From 2022’s result, Saulo just has to show up to get 30%. Now that Australian Jews know that Labor and the Filth aren’t their friends, it will be interesting to see how close Saulo gets to winning the seat.

The result in McNamara in 2025 will tell us plenty about the public mood.

Roger
Roger
June 5, 2024 7:00 pm
Reply to  Tom

Burns has been quite forthright in criticising the ALP’s Gaza policy.

Megan
Megan
June 5, 2024 8:37 pm
Reply to  Roger

Maybe so. But his anti-semitic fellow travellers are not persuaded.

Cassie of Sydney
June 5, 2024 7:12 pm
Reply to  Tom

Agree Tom, I reckon the Liberals are in with a good chance.

cohenite
June 5, 2024 7:29 pm
Reply to  Tom

Not public mood but brains.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 5, 2024 6:55 pm

This guy should stand for the Presidency.

Dead Congressman wins election in US despite passing away weeks ago (5 Jun)

A congressman has won his nomination for reelection in New Jersey, the US, despite having died from a heart attack nearly two months ago.

Representative Donald Payne Jr. [D] secured a staggering 99 percent of the vote in New Jersey’s 10th Congressional District as he was the only candidate on the ballot.

He had represented the district since 2012, serving six straight terms before his death.

He’d be perfect in the White House! Oh except he couldn’t then serve his 7th term in New Jersey. Bummer.

MatrixTransform
June 5, 2024 7:13 pm

Anyone want to guess how many people work in the public service?

best place to do that is Siktoria

you know the Vik Govt is giving all Public Service employees a $5600 bonus ?

we are flat broke and they cant even finish their tunnels-to-nowhere
and they are taking tax revenue and giving it away

my own daughter is wrangling the system to make sure she gets the free money before relocating to NT

it’s f*kd up

Megan
Megan
June 5, 2024 8:38 pm

Two of mine are onto it as well. A ‘Cost of Living’ handout. Allegedly.

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 5, 2024 7:22 pm

Btw Bruce I never had any doubts regarding your qualifications and abilities. Just think.your wasted being out of the workforce.

132andBush
132andBush
June 5, 2024 7:40 pm
Reply to  Miltonf

I’m after a chaser bin driver for next harvest.

Top rates
Top food
Top hours

No lefties.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 5, 2024 8:15 pm
Reply to  132andBush

Hah, Bushie, you really really don’t want a poorly coordinated scientist to drive a chaser bin. I could show you the dings on my chariot, and they’re just from carparks and suchlike. 😀

Milton – What has happened to my industry is it has gone down the Alice rabbit hole. Most of it is just as much captured by green climate rubbish as everything else. Lithium! Graphite! Rare earths! Battery metals! I literally cannot in good conscience work in any of those areas. Academia is even worse. I did some on rare earths because a mate asked me to. But I will not anymore. Obviously I don’t need to work or I would be doing so. The trouble is the world has gone totally nuts. I reject consultancy offers these days.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 5, 2024 8:30 pm
Reply to  132andBush

I’ll add also that my youngest brother does Li battery recycling for a certain bunch. He’s about 20 years younger than me. His salary is almost exactly what Albo gets. Hands on in overalls and helmet. Good on him, we never talk politics.

The amount of dosh flooding into these areas is just breathtaking.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
June 5, 2024 9:07 pm
Reply to  132andBush

How long does the harvest take? A week maybe?
Those rates would have to be very tippetty top to make a short harvest worth the travel.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 6, 2024 12:01 am

A week or two of manual labour has a lot to recommend it – providing you know it has a definite end point. I did a couple of 2 week stints on the old man’s place when he was around. Much better fun than shuffling paper and battling corporate inertia.

Muddy
Muddy
June 5, 2024 7:23 pm

Vicki’s 5:37 p.m. link to a Quadrant article relating to the covidiocy is well worth a read. Thanks, Vicki.

cohenite
June 5, 2024 7:26 pm

Isn’t that interesting:

Congress paid $17 million in settlements. Why we know so little about that money. | CNN Politics

These were NDAs for actual sexual assault claims not the mutual sex which the slut stormy lied about and which cohen paid $130K piss off money to the extortionist. So congress, most of them demorats, paid out $17 million to stop political publicity about their sexual assaults: $17 million of tax payer money with no fuking consequence while Trump is convicted in a sham trial on a non-existent, confected crime for paying off an extortionist.

Indolent
Indolent
June 5, 2024 7:26 pm
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 5, 2024 8:35 pm
Reply to  Indolent

The green-progressive religion hates God.
Just like the Islamic religion.

Zippster
Zippster
June 5, 2024 7:27 pm

perplexity.ai
University Gender Balance by Faculty in Australia
The gender balance of students varies significantly across different fields of study at Australian universities. Here is an overview of the male to female student ratios in various faculties:
Fields with Higher Proportion of Female Students
EducationThe education faculty has the highest proportion of female students at around 76%. For every 100 students in education courses, there are only 32 males.
Health
Health-related courses like nursing, midwifery, and allied health also have a high female enrollment of around 72%. The male to female ratio is around 1:3.5.
Society and Culture
Courses related to society, culture, humanities and arts tend to attract more female students, with around 67% being female. The male to female ratio is around 1:2.
Creative Arts
In the creative arts faculty, around 63% of students are female, with a male to female ratio of around 3:5.
Fields with Higher Proportion of Male Students

Engineering and Related TechnologiesEngineering remains a heavily male-dominated field, with only around 16% of students being female. For every 100 engineering students, there are only 19 females.
Information Technology
Similarly, in the information technology and computer science disciplines, only around 19% of students are female, resulting in a male to female ratio of around 4:1.
Architecture and Building
The architecture and building fields have a 60% male majority, with a male to female ratio of around 3:2.
Natural and Physical Sciences
In the natural and physical sciences like physics, chemistry and mathematics, there is a more balanced gender ratio of around 50% males and 50% females.
Management and Commerce
Business, management and commerce courses tend to have a slight male majority of around 51%, with a male to female ratio of around 19:18.

Overall, while some traditionally male-dominated fields like engineering and IT still have significant gender imbalances, many other disciplines now have a higher proportion of female students compared to males. The data highlights the need for continued efforts to promote gender equity and encourage participation across all fields.

Entropy
Entropy
June 5, 2024 9:39 pm
Reply to  Zippster

Miss Entropy is an engineering student. She just won a scholarship to Japan to do an intensive summer course a nuke and a hydrogen facility. Hundreds of applicants but only 20 get to go. Amazingly, half of them are girls.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 5, 2024 7:30 pm

Defence is considering disciplinary action against officials and serving ADF personnel who have signed an open letter accusing the Australian government of complicity in “the genocide, ethnic cleansing and illegal occupation of Palestine”

Any of the bush lawyers here help out? Would any serving A.D.F. members who signed such a letter be in breach of military law?

Chris
Chris
June 5, 2024 7:53 pm
Reply to  cohenite

Also, oxygen thieves in Government or cross benches should be deprived of oxygen for 48 hours.
To encourage the others.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 5, 2024 7:38 pm

Sexual harassment, bullying claims rock the ABCAlmost 100 ABC staff have been sexually harassed at work and a further 186 employees claim to have been bullied, survey finds, prompting a warning from managing director David Anderson.

Daily Tele. Snork, snork..

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 5, 2024 9:11 pm

Earlier, complaints about racism were apparently confirmed in an internal investigation.

Now sexual harassment and bullying, not exactly a model employer. What have they said about other employers facing not just claims on one of these, but all three.

Rabz the place, as an example to others.

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 5, 2024 7:54 pm

Riding a six car vline diesel to the city right now. Lovely train but only about 7 people in my carriage. Economics must be terrible. If Allen is running out of OPM, I wonder what’s going to happen.

132andBush
132andBush
June 5, 2024 8:05 pm

Chris
June 5, 2024 2:40 pm

A $Billion for computers to “misforecast” weather, even up here in the tropics, where it should be very easy to get it right, seems like a complete waste of taxpayers dosh to me.

I know the BOM get some things wrong, but my experience is that weather forecasting these days is incredibly good. Rain forecasting is a ‘best-guess’ sure, and longer-term forecasting swamped in warmening rhetoric, but apart from that the wind and cloud cover and temperature forecasting is outflamingstanding.

Just the weather radar alone is incredible.

Cyclone forecasting is over-detailed so people can sometimes be too sure it will not come their way, but updates are constant.

The harm saved in actions based on good forecasts – eg concrete pours, or picnics…

Nah really, BOM are worth it. If they didn’t parrot fashionable lies they would be great.

Worth it.

Definitely.

The BOM should be funded only to the extent that they collect accurate data for dissemination by other entities, by that I mean private subscription based companies. Otherwise known as people who suffer monetarily for getting things consistently wrong.

There are many out there and most provide an excellent product.

It’s obvious The BOM has been completely, or at the very least greatly, politicised in line with what Eisenhower warned about in his farewell speech.

There is a quickly deteriorating confidence and trust in rural areas re anything they have to say about the medium and long term outlook and all short term forecasts are just as accurate from international forecasters.

Remember also how culpable they have been in the pillaging of Australias finances, countryside and people.

Chris
Chris
June 5, 2024 9:07 pm
Reply to  132andBush

Yes, culpable.
But the product is still very useful.

Entropy
Entropy
June 5, 2024 9:46 pm
Reply to  132andBush

Something in that. BOM should spend all its money on observations, as many and as widely across this wide brown land as the money allows. The number of met stations has been declining a couple of decades now, in favour of interpolated modelling in the gaps. Let other organisations access the data for modelling purposes.
Let’s face it, when the Europeans can model Australian wealthier better than BoM’s old POAMA or ACCESS-S, we have a problem.

that said, even though the two coral sea coast crosser cyclones this year were in reality not much puff (although Jasper was a tad wet) the bom forecast track was the closet both times.

anyway, AI is going to take over that field.

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 5, 2024 8:09 pm

Spot on Bush. Another Canbra abomination.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 5, 2024 8:36 pm

Bush at 8:05 re BoM.
Agree.
Their 7-14 day forecasting is pretty good. Yeah, rain can be a bit iffy, but often that is the nature of it … 5-10mm here, and nothing 10 kms up the road.
But the politicised climate change shit just “damages the brand” as we say.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 5, 2024 8:38 pm

From Michael Smith. Tomorrow!

The Longest Day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpaTwpWt8BQ

Song and Lyrics by Paul Anka

Many men came here as soldiers
Many men will pass this way
Many men will count the hours
As they live the longest day
Many men are tired and weary
Many men are here to stay
Many men won’t see the sunset
When it ends the longest day
The longest day the longest day
This will be the longest day
Filled with hopes and filled with fears
Filled with blood and sweat and tears
Many men the mighty thousands
Many men to victory
Marching on right into battle
In the longest day in history

Black Ball
Black Ball
June 5, 2024 8:39 pm

New South Wales may as well walk off
Listening to Paul Kent last year and yes he has been silly of late.
But what he said remains true. Queensland plays for the jumper, NSW for themselves.

Megan
Megan
June 5, 2024 8:47 pm

In my long-winded travelogue on the decline of Bologna earlier today, I forgot about a lovely little corner where a 1920s Art Nouveau streetlamp hangs. The Lampiere del Bambini, Babies Lamp, is a unique anachronism. Unique to the world, I suspect. When a baby was born in the city, a nurse in one of the two major hospitals, would press a button to illuminate the lamp. Symbol of the connection between old and new. It is no longer operational.

Showing photos to my local friend she lamented it’s demise. “No more Italian babies being born in the city. Sole stranieri…only strangers.”

A lovely, lost tradition.

132andBush
132andBush
June 5, 2024 8:49 pm

Some evening humour.

Nikki Osborne and Troy Kinne taking some well deserved pi$$ out of The Bachelor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdWajm5VkNc

Pretty new to Nikki Osborne and finding her a bit of a blast and I realise some may not.
Her “Angry Iso Workout” is a thing of beauty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbKxCLg1_eQ&t=1s

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 5, 2024 8:52 pm

Zulu, just out now in the Oz:

Defence is considering disciplinary action against officials and serving ADF personnel who signed an open letter accusing the federal government of complicity in “the genocide, ethnic cleansing and illegal occupation of Palestine”.

The department’s secretary, Greg Moriarty, and the Chief of the Defence Force Angus Campbell told a Senate estimates hearing on Wednesday that uniformed and civilian Defence employees were among more than 2200 public servants who had signed the letter. They said they were still trying to determine how many had done so. The letter calls for an end to Australian military exports to ­Israel – which the government says are no longer occurring.

Mr Moriarty said Defence staff would be reminded of their obligation to be impartial and professional in their public comments.

“My inclination is to proceed to do that quickly,” he said. “We have further options to take formal ­action in accordance with the APS code of conduct, and certainly the CDF has at his disposal other ­arrangements in relation to members of the ADF.”

In other words, nothing will be done.

Entropy
Entropy
June 5, 2024 9:49 pm
Reply to  Top Ender

Why are those people in the military?free sex changes?

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 5, 2024 8:58 pm

Interesting video on gold refining and manufacture of gold wire/jewelry at the Korean Gold Exchange.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 5, 2024 9:06 pm

Nikki Osborne and Troy Kinne taking some well deserved pi$$ out of The Bachelor.

Brilliant, as was the ‘iso’ workout.

I have had limited exposure (none) to Ms Osborne till now, but it is apparent she is indeed a comely lass with a cracking sense of humour, and who certainly deserves to play A Grade.

In which case, she needs to move to Darwin.

Rosie
Rosie
June 5, 2024 9:17 pm

Ndis could be infinitely sharpened up, very quickly, by requiring recipients to make co-payments which would greatly incentivise demanding value for money; and imposing income thresholds.
And while I hate to say it, plan management should be moved to the public service, if that’s where a lot of the fraud is now.
And it needs to be limited to those with severe disabilities.
Good luck with that.

Black Ball
Black Ball
June 5, 2024 9:31 pm

Mr Moriarty

Good Lord

Cassie of Sydney
June 5, 2024 9:43 pm

UK chattering leftist scum are sniggering at the assault on Nigel Farage overnight. Leftist scum think it’s a hoot to physically attack a conservative or right of centre politician or commentator.

From Talk TV…..Julia Hartley-Brewer Hits Out At “The Left” After Nigel Farage Milkshake Attack…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnrXcDTzy2U

I think Ms Hartley-Brewer says it best.

m0nty
June 5, 2024 9:45 pm

Bruce, you can post the Royal Seal of the Queen of Shiba for all I care (although LOL at you decrying credentialism and then literally posting your credentials).

A career in the mining industry with a 95% fail rate for your work does not qualify you to gainsay Anthony Fauci on the subject of disease.

Saints preserve us from rock doctors with delusions of grandeur.

MatrixTransform
June 5, 2024 9:56 pm
Reply to  m0nty

stfu mUnty

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 6, 2024 12:06 am
Reply to  m0nty

“The Royal Seal of the Queen od Sheba..”

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 6, 2024 7:24 am
Reply to  m0nty

Saints preserve us from failed economists who think a degree in j’ism is an education.

Bruce has more than sufficient scientific knowledge to challenge Fauci on stupidities like the Vax, much less minor idiocies like masks and soshul distancing.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 6, 2024 8:29 am
Reply to  m0nty

It’s time that Munted had the same standards applied to him that he applies to others – hit him with the ban hammer.

cohenite
June 5, 2024 9:52 pm

Saints preserve us from rock doctors with delusions of grandeur.

And leftie bastards with no dick.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 5, 2024 9:56 pm

Saints preserve us from rock doctors with delusions of grandeur

Saints preserve us from porky ranga failed economics students and basement fantasy football operators surviving on other people’s assets.

132andBush
132andBush
June 5, 2024 10:00 pm

Saints preserve us from rock doctors with delusions of grandeur.

No.

Saints preserve us from butter soft, pseudo intellectual, disingenuous commie trolls.

And their wives.

Megan
Megan
June 5, 2024 10:04 pm

Munsterous makes sewer rats look charming.

Black Ball
Black Ball
June 5, 2024 10:17 pm

This khunt. FMD

billie
June 5, 2024 10:27 pm

Don’t.feed.trolls.ever.

just.don’t.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 5, 2024 10:28 pm

Ouch!

She’s out cold.

—-

Steve Inman:

Horsed Around & Found Out
https://rumble.com/v4zpg7z-horsed-around-and-found-out.html

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 5, 2024 10:30 pm

The spiteful mediocrity somewhat tetchy today.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 6, 2024 12:02 am

Anyway, “Sliante” to all you horrible mob. It’s that time of year, when the family company pays it’s dividend to those of us, who inherited the shares in the first place.

Certain of my siblings begin muttering in dark corners about how, if we liquidated the whole deal, and paid out the shareholders, they could buy more land, bigger farms, bigger houses and prop up their partner’s failing business enterprises.

Their brother, who they all regard as past praying for, regards that dividend as being spent on good single malt, a decent library, and taking Mme Zulu on an overseas holiday….

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
June 6, 2024 12:15 am

onya Zulu

Megan
Megan
June 6, 2024 12:28 am

Excellent plan. Sliante!

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 6, 2024 6:56 am

Inheritance and children’s expectations – don’t get me started.
They will all do well, but some are not satisfied. Meanwhile I wake early worrying about fairness and equity for them all, pondering various what ifs in the future for them and for us.

Your plan sounds very workable, Zulu.

calli
calli
June 6, 2024 12:36 am

Rock doctors

I have great respect for geologists and metallurgists.

Everything you have in modern society would not exist without them. You would be living in a cave, naked and starving.

I have far less respect for dodgy doctors with delusions of grandeur and political connections. They all came out of the woodwork during covid and were rewarded handsomely for their services to their masters. One was even made a state governor.

Roger
Roger
June 6, 2024 7:18 am
Reply to  calli

One was even made a state governor.

That would be the one whose husband was an adviser to Pfizer?

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 6, 2024 7:27 am
Reply to  Roger

Yes.

Roger
Roger
June 6, 2024 8:01 am
Reply to  Boambee John

Rhetorical question, BJ 😀

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
June 6, 2024 12:38 am

From Herald Sun.
Police bid to force activist burger boss Hasheam Tayeh to spill on kidnappingActivist burger chain boss Hasheam Tayeh will face a court hearing where police will fight to force him to reveal what he knows about a kidnap and torture case.

This is the same guy who had the arson attack on one of his burger joints and was involved in stirring up animosity against Jews.

I am sure it is just a coincidence that a lot of dodgy goings on are connected to him.

calli
calli
June 6, 2024 12:38 am

And greetings from Madrid. Staying just off the Gran Via.

Drove the car in through appalling traffic. Muchos gesturing, shouting, ducking and weaving all around us.

My guardian angel works overtime. Thankfully he charges mate’s rates.

KevinM
KevinM
June 6, 2024 12:44 am

Interesting, or dull. Depends on the reader.

What an amazing discovery! Scientists have discovered that ants, after collecting the grains and seeds that they need for winter break those seeds down into halves before storing in their nests because breaking them in half keeps them from germinating even through rain and the most perfect germinating conditions.

But scientists were stunned when they discovered that coriander seeds stored in the ant nest were broken down into 4 pieces instead of 2 pieces. After lab research, scientists discovered that a coriander seed will still germinate after being divided into two, but it won’t germinate after it’s divided into four parts.

So how do these tiny tiny creatures know all this? Humans know very little, there’s a lot to learn from other creatures.

My question is, did it happen by intelligent design, or did some ancient ant observe this factoid and passed it on somehow?

Probably posted on a dying thread?

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Megan
Megan
June 6, 2024 2:08 am
Reply to  KevinM

For some reason, known only to my creator, I absolutely love this!

calli
calli
June 6, 2024 12:45 am

An anniversary today…and a remarkable one.

Eighty years on. They were the Greatest Generation. We won’t see their like again.

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Bruce in WA
June 6, 2024 5:30 pm
Reply to  calli

Calli, I fervently hope we never NEED to see their like again

JC
JC
June 6, 2024 1:59 am

Of course, they were a great generation, but I wouldn’t say they were the greatest, as it was events that tested them.

The same could be said of the past Israeli generations, who helped make Israel a great addition to the West. Prior to the 7th, you could have suggested the younger Israeli generations had become soft and flabby like their western counterparts, and then? And then the 7th occurred, and the younger gens performed with spectacular bravery, foresight, intelligence, and restraint.

If our younger gens were tested, and they will, I see them behaving in the same way as the Israeli kids. As always, I’m optimistic.

calli
calli
June 6, 2024 2:45 am

I am an optimist also. My comment referenced demographers.

Out and about in Madrid – an arsehole driving a minivan beeping his horn. On the back…a Pali flag.

I don’t know what came over me. “Go Israel! Return the hostages!”

Again, that tired angel averted an international incident. But I was that angry seeing the driver’s sleek, fat self satisfied face.

Megan
Megan
June 6, 2024 4:43 am
Reply to  calli

Ten thumbs up, calli. The keffiyak and the pali flag provide a clear statement that says I Am An AntiSemitic Moron.

Tom
Tom
June 6, 2024 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
June 6, 2024 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
June 6, 2024 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
June 6, 2024 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
June 6, 2024 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
June 6, 2024 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
June 6, 2024 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
June 6, 2024 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
June 6, 2024 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
June 6, 2024 4:07 am
Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
June 6, 2024 5:49 am

Thank you Tom, your efforts are appreciated and make my day every day

Megan
Megan
June 6, 2024 3:10 pm

Seconded.

Roger
Roger
June 6, 2024 7:06 am

Governor Ronald Reagan, in his 1967 inaugural address, famously remarked, “Freedom is a fragile thing and it’s never more than one generation away from extinction.”

Reagan today might have expanded on his theme by declaring that civilization itself is both fragile and can lost by a generation that recklessly spends its inheritance while neither appreciating nor replenishing it—if not ridiculing those who sacrificed so much to provide it.

Such is the noxious epitaph of the Baby Boomer generation that is now passing after a half-century of preeminence and whose Jacobin agendas have nearly wrecked the nation they inherited.

In contrast to them, eighty years ago this week, the Allied powers of World War II—chiefly the United States, the United Kingdom, and Canada—landed on five Normandy beaches to begin what Gen. Dwight Eisenhower, supreme commander of the Allied expeditionary forces, would call the great “crusade” to liberate Western Europe from four years of brutal Nazi occupation.

Victor Davis Hanson, The Destructive Generation

Caveat – Of course not all “baby boomers” fit the above bill. Taking his cue from Reagan, Hanson is engaging in generational analysis, a broad brush approach to social and cultural trends and their impact on society and history.

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Vicki
Vicki
June 6, 2024 7:53 am
Reply to  Roger

Roger, as you know, Hanson is an historian. And a brilliant one. That is the role of the historian – to observe, critically analyse the evidence, and interpret the passage of time in societies.

My personal assessment is that he is dead right on what he sees,

Roger
Roger
June 6, 2024 8:09 am
Reply to  Vicki

Yes, I’ve been following him for years, Vicki.

The combination of military history and agrarianism first piqued my interest, then his political commentary followed.

Some disagreements here and there, but worth paying attention to.

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BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 6, 2024 8:58 am
Reply to  Roger

(NOT addressed to you in particular, Roger, it’s just a general spray at whinging kids who can never inherit enough to be thankful.)
Lets not forget that the Boomers who built this economic powerhouse (GWP) from 1965 $9,126.98 to 2019 $87,752.00
We haven’t been tested yet, but the coming generations will be, and at least they have something to fight with.
Yes, I’m fed up with the boomers being the whipping boy for every dissatisfied up and coming generation who feel they have the right to inherit the homes, assets and hammocks we built whilst criticising the fact we worked bloody hard to create those homes, assets and hammocks.
I’d like to see ‘you lot’ start with what I had – the equivalent of a weeks wages from a paper run, and the chance to get a job as a process worker in a factory.
We’ll meet up in wherever we end up and compare outcomes.

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Rufus T Firefly
Rufus T Firefly
June 6, 2024 3:58 pm
Reply to  Roger

95% of all German armour went East.
Russia suffered the losses that the US/UK/Canada suffered on 6th June, EVERY day of the war.

Whilst not in any way denigrating the chaps who landed on the beaches on June 6th, I think Ivan had a much larger role in defeating Germany than the “allies”.

Why was it that the landings occurred in June 1944 and not earlier?
Was there really a significant build up of forces from, let’s say, June 1943 to then? (Spoiler alert – No.)
What was happening then, that precipitated that event?

I recently came across a quote from Zhukov that I quoted a few weeks ago.
“We saved Europe from the Nazi’s, ….., they will never forgive us for it.”

The more I think about it and what is now going on in Eastern Europe, the more fascinating that statement becomes.

Cassie of Sydney
June 6, 2024 7:07 am

D-Day anniversary today…..yet now Nazism, in the guise of ‘progressivism’ is prevalent and growing again across Western Europe, Jews are taunted, threatened, intimidated, spat upon, beaten and attacked. Jewish schools, kindergartens, aged care homes, synagogues, temples, communal organisations require massive security. Many Jews are scared to walk the streets. In the UK there is talk that a new Sturmer government will recognise a Nazi state called ‘Palestine’.

Jews need to leave the UK NOW.

As for Australia, I don’t know what the future holds for us Jews, one thing I do know is that we have a Nazi Party in this country and that party is called the Greens and anyone who votes for this Nazi party is a Nazi supporter and no different from those Germans who voted for Hitler in 1933.

But I will always remember and I will always thank those brave young men who landed on the beaches of Normandy that overcast windswept day. As a child I remember looking at a book my father had (I often wonder what happened to that book). It was a Time Life book on the history of World War II. I still recall the full page pictures of the young wide-eyed men huddled and cramped together in the pontoons, pictures taken just before they landed on those windswept Normandy beaches, the men shivering due to the cold and you could see the fear on their faces. I recall their young beautiful eyes, these young men were true sacrificial lambs, brave lambs fighting a noble cause to rid the world of the evil of Nazism. And anyone who doubts their valour, who doubts the validity and nobility of World War II, remember this. As those young men were landing on the cold beaches of Normandy, an aunt of mine, in a town near Budapest, was living her last days with her family, because between May and July 1944, almost half a million Hungarian Jews were rounded up and deported to Auschwitz for extermination.

If that is not an evil worth fighting against I don’t know what is, but in 2024 we reward evil, we’re condoning Nazism. Sometimes I get despondent and I wonder whether we deserved the sacrifice and valour of those young men. Today, on our streets and university campuses there are calls for a new genocide against Jews and all I can think is….

Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose

Still, I will always remember and thank those brave young men of 6 June 1944.

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Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
June 6, 2024 7:25 am

Thank you Cassie for this tribute

Vicki
Vicki
June 6, 2024 7:49 am

Absolutely Cassie. I think the attack on our Jewish community represents the most significant and disturbing indication that our democratic ideals are under sustained attack. Both sides of politics need to come together and demolish this evil. Frydenberg’s documentary was the first step in summoning senior Labor figures to join the struggle against anti-Semitism.

Helen
Helen
June 6, 2024 11:06 am

No doubt there were young Jews on the beach as well, Cassie.
I remember the poignant tribute to 9/11 when those fire fighters marched into that building to their certain death. Amongst them were Jews, too, Jews and Christians shoulder to shoulder.

Rufus T Firefly
Rufus T Firefly
June 6, 2024 4:01 pm

In 2022, a motion was put before the UN to:
“Oppose Nazism”.

Australia, under the vile Wong and intellectually challenged Albo, managed to ABSTAIN!!!

It is not merely the Green piles of vomit, you should be wary of.

will
will
June 6, 2024 7:20 am

Dilbert.

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Black Ball
Black Ball
June 6, 2024 7:22 am

Don’t really need to add anything about D Day except to thank them for the freedom they granted.
Monty should be thanking them also in the same manner that he can post his flatus on this site. The same flatus those men fought against.

Vicki
Vicki
June 6, 2024 7:42 am
Reply to  Black Ball

Indeed. This is why the Covid years and the attack on our rights should not be forgotten. The Australian Spectator has a good article on the lessons of those years.

Cassie of Sydney
June 6, 2024 7:27 am

This is the same guy who had the arson attack on one of his burger joints and was involved in stirring up animosity against Jews.

It was worse, far worse, than simple ‘animosity towards Jews’, it was a convenient pretext used by Nazi leftist and Muslim scum (wonder if our own Nazi was there) to gather, with Vic Police approval, outside a synagogue on the Sabbath to scream, hurl and shout intimidation and abuse at Caulfield’s Jews.

I still remain dismayed by the whole event, and the following night here in Sydney, a convoy of cars filled with Nazi Muslims and leftists (one of whom was a convicted Nazi Muslim terrorist), were provided with a personal escort by NSWaffen Police to drive through Jewish suburbs here in Sydney’s eastern suburbs….screaming abuse and intimidation at Jews….whilst NSWaffen Police stood back and did nothing.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 6, 2024 9:24 am

The police forces of this nation have taken a hell of a hiding to the public respect they had for so many years. The politicisation of the upper echelons of the bureaucracy and the reduction in quality of the performance of the Armed Forces, Police, Teachers, Doctors, etc is going to take a long time to recover – if it ever does.
We’re looking at exactly the same thing that has happened in the US in the FBI/Homeland Security/Defence/Justice – Obama didn’t need to overturn the worker ants, he just had to replace those giving the orders.
But at least when they voted for Obama, they stopped getting called racists. Didn’t they?*

  • I guess I need a sarc tag here.
Boambee John
Boambee John
June 6, 2024 7:42 am

I see that the fat fascist fool was again polluting the thread late last night.

Its latest project seems to be a weak attempt to “Alinsky” Bruce of N. The turd has identified his target, is in the process of personalising it, and now seems to be trying to isolate Bruce, with limp attempts at discrediting Bruce’s credentials.

We’ll, Saints preserve us from failed economists who think a degree in j’ism is an education.
Bruce has more than sufficient scientific knowledge to challenge Fauci on stupidities like the Vax, much less minor idiocies like masks and soshul distancing.

So, I stand with Bruce (and I also have scientific credentials, gained in an era when rigorous testing was still applied). The rubbish Fauci put out as “Science” was transparently dishonest.

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Vicki
Vicki
June 6, 2024 7:57 am
Reply to  Boambee John

From what I have read, under examination Fauci has virtually admitted he made decisions and recommendations without evidence due to what he claimed was an emergency medical situation. Fauci traded on an elevated position he had after years in the medical bureaucracy.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 6, 2024 9:26 am
Reply to  Boambee John

Boambee John, I have no scientific credentials, but I do have a healthy sense of scepticism, and it tells me that Fauci is full of shit.

Rufus T Firefly
Rufus T Firefly
June 6, 2024 4:04 pm
Reply to  Boambee John

“Dishonest”???? WTF!!!!!

I think you mean a crime against humanity!

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 6, 2024 7:44 am

I’m doing well, have accumulated 3922 points at Coles and have an txt to tell me to redeem them, this is wonderful as I’ve only spent about $100 there in the last two years. Are people so stupid, excepting mutley as we know he’ll believe anything, to respond to these phishing messages.

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Diogenes
Diogenes
June 6, 2024 7:53 am
Reply to  GreyRanga

We are still boycotting Woolies, have spent the dollars we had, uninstalled the app, and unsubscribed from their emails, yet every night I get an email telling I have won a 36 piece glass storage set. I wonder how many people fall for it.

And the texts from Aussie Post telling me I have a parcel…

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 6, 2024 8:20 am
Reply to  Diogenes

Every time I use Paypal – because there’s no other bloody option – within a couple of days I get an email letting me know my order for a Titanium Apple iPhone has been accepted and the seller has been instructed to ship said item.
The building address on the request for payment is also Paypals – 15/1 York Street, Sydney.
“Please pay on this account.”
It looks reasonably official and even gives a phone number to call if it appears suspicious. So I’ve googled the number and it’s well known for being a scam site.
So the problem is this:
It’s within the authorities ability to raid the place – yes, there’s an address – and obviously Paypal has a security issue that allows names and addresses to go to an outside organisation.
So why don’t they deal with it? Fraud is still a crime in Australia or is it? Too lazy? Too complicated, Who cares?
(Yes I know it’s a bit more complex than what I’ve described, but are the Police that frigging disinterested in doing their bloody jobs?)

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 6, 2024 8:49 am
Reply to  BobtheBoozer

Is fraud still a crime in Australia? The reluctance to pursue fraudulent NDIS managers making off with huge sums of taxpayer money suggests not.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 6, 2024 7:54 am
Reply to  GreyRanga

lol, Ranga. The number of texts I was getting (until I blocked them) telling me to click this link urgently because I was building up fines for not paying my electronic tolls was off the planet. We have a regular bank payment on them. Someone has hacked into the list of those paying in this way and is making money off scamming those on it who click their fake texts.

Zatara
Zatara
June 6, 2024 1:50 pm

It’s much easier to buy the data from some insider scumbag than hack for it. Hacking takes work.

Roger
Roger
June 6, 2024 8:05 am
Reply to  GreyRanga

Some, yes.

American police are known to send texts to low level criminals with outstanding warrants telling them they’ve won a TV or similar and when & where to turn up to collect their prize.

Never fails to hook some.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 6, 2024 8:46 am
Reply to  GreyRanga

By an amazing coincidence, I seem to have accumulated exactly the same number of points.

LB2
LB2
June 6, 2024 7:45 am
132andBush
132andBush
June 6, 2024 8:14 am

The transcript of Bidens interview with Time has been released, apparently pretty much verbatim.

It’s a mush of vagaries and thought train (crashes).

There is probably a reason it was allowed out without significant editing.

https://time.com/6984968/joe-biden-transcript-2024-interview/

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 6, 2024 8:18 am

Biden will be making a speech at the D-Day ceremony I assume. I wonder if he will veer off-script and regale people with his own experiences on that terrible day. His buddy dying in his arms, begging him to increase illegal migration, after having his head blown off by a Wurlitzer fired by a German MAGA battalion. (That’s a fact.)

Perhaps he will tell a little of his own heroics, how he was the first to land on U-Haul beach and the Republicans in their pillboxes didn’t shoot him because they were intimidated by him (not a joke), how he saved Admiral Patton’s life by catching a bullet in his own hand just before it hit Patton’s head (no kidding), How he helped his buddy Corn Pop round up the Hitler Ewes, and…and…anyway.

He is saying, apparently, that every world leader he meets takes him aside and tells him that he cannot let Trump win the election. I imagine among there European elites there is little appetite for a return of Trump – he stood up to them and showed how bad they were. By why would you tell that to a addled, mumbling dotard who forgets it as soon as he hears it? There are other, more effective people to conspire with behind the scenes.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
June 6, 2024 8:31 am
Reply to  Mother Lode

No Malarkey!
Thanks ML, bigger laugh than Tom’s cartoons today

Zatara
Zatara
June 6, 2024 1:56 pm
Reply to  Mother Lode

Certainly he won’t forget his son Beau, who died on Omaha Beach and was eaten by escargot?

(No offense Beau. But if he can use you for sympathy points we can use him dong so for laughs.)

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 6, 2024 8:21 am

Haha, how to get out of jury duty…

Newsmax Viewers Shunned From Trump, Biden Juries (5 Jun)

Newsmax viewers were among the people disqualified or not included on the juries in both former President Donald Trump’s New York paperwork trial and Hunter Biden’s Delaware gun trial. …

In the Trump trial, which ended with the former president being found guilty of 34 felony charges, the jury was comprised of people who mostly got their news from reading The New York Times.

That was not a problem for Judge Juan Merchan, whom Trump and his allies have accused of issuing partisan rulings.

Probably the same for Breitbart readers also. I wonder what would happen if I told a local beak that I read and watch Sky News Australia?

Chris
Chris
June 6, 2024 8:31 am

Anything that could get you marked down as an intellectual is dangerous. Get a mullet, and don’t wear your glasses!

shatterzzz
June 6, 2024 8:24 am

How woke can you get ..! .. British paratroopers staged a jump onto the Normandy beaches to honour the D Day landings .. On touchdown they were required to have their passports ready for French Customs who had set up a temporary passport checking table for the “new arrivals” .. FFS!

https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/1d8xuyf/british_paratroopers_jumping_into_normandy_having/

Roger
Roger
June 6, 2024 8:32 am
Reply to  shatterzzz

More than a little ironic given that France turns a blind eye to illegals leaving its shores for the UK every day.

Crossie
Crossie
June 6, 2024 8:46 am
Reply to  shatterzzz

Also a pity they had to liberate France in order to liberate the rest of Europe.

calli
calli
June 6, 2024 4:24 pm
Reply to  shatterzzz

Stay classy, France.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 6, 2024 8:24 am

I also wonder if anyone will see the irony if Biden talks about the danger of a nation led by a war monger who keeps tucked away in a bunker, issuing increasingly irrational orders, severely mentally impaired and kept able to stand only with the aid of an exotic cocktail of chemicals and drugs.

I am also curious to see if he has a dig at Trump or the Republicans. It would be stupendously inappropriate and embarrassing but I don’t think he can help himself.

Tom
Tom
June 6, 2024 8:30 am

Cassie at 7.07am:

… we have a Nazi Party in this country and that party is called the Greens and anyone who votes for this Nazi party is a Nazi supporter and no different from those Germans who voted for Hitler in 1933.

According to the results of the 2022 federal election, Australia has just short of two million Nazi Greens voters — 12.2% of the voting population — who are now supporting the persecution of Jews in this country.

They dishonour the 34.000 Australians who died fighting Nazism in World War Two.

Needless to say, like true Nazis, they hate this country’s freedom.

Crossie
Crossie
June 6, 2024 8:49 am
Reply to  Tom

You need to add a sizeable number of voters from the religion of pieces to that total.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 6, 2024 9:46 am
Reply to  Tom

Tom:

Needless to say, like true Nazis, they hate this country’s freedom.

Nah, Tom.
They love this countries freedoms – they just think they should be the only ones to have them.

Tom
Tom
June 6, 2024 10:59 am
Reply to  BobtheBoozer

Spot on, Bob. Fascists think they’re the only ones entitled to liberty and freedom from incarceration. They see themselves as our jailers.

Chris
Chris
June 6, 2024 8:33 am

On touchdown they were required to have their passports ready for French Customs who had set up a temporary passport checking table for the “new arrivals” .. FFS!

Brexit! But lets be clear – they would have asked in French and English.
‘Vo ist ihre reisepass, bitte?’ would not have been asked.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 6, 2024 9:29 am
Reply to  Chris

Supposed to have been an American tourist in France, some years ago, who was being questioned about some irregularity in his passport, by an officious French customs officer.

“Do you not know this? Have you never visited France before?”

“Well, yes, I have – in June 1944, and no — one asked to see my passport then.”

duncanm
duncanm
June 6, 2024 8:37 am

Cassie of Sydney
 June 6, 2024 7:07 am

D-Day anniversary today

Reading “With the old breed” at the moment.. timely.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 6, 2024 8:40 am

I see that the fat fascist fool was again polluting the thread late last night.

He only pop’s his head up when he can get some sort of vicarious enjoyment when he thinks he sees his ‘side’ winning. Trump being convicted of those…ahem…’Trumped up’ charges.

What is perhaps most telling is not that he pops up here from time to time, but that most of the time he stays away.

Roger
Roger
June 6, 2024 8:44 am
Reply to  Mother Lode

What is perhaps most telling is not that he pops up here from time to time, but that most of the time he stays away.

I have taken note of that as well.

(Not that I roost here, but I try to keep a weather eye on the discussion.)

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 6, 2024 8:45 am

Yuckolyte.

Disney Tops Long List Of Woke Failures With Upcoming Release Of Gay Star Wars Show (6 Jun)

Of course, film and streaming series productions are usually initiated at least a couple years in advance of release. So, even with the sweeping sea change in public awareness of woke propaganda, media companies like Disney are still stuck with the garbage projects they already sunk money into back in 2022-2023.  

This is why we now have ‘The Acolyte’ to look forward to – Another woke Star Wars travesty featuring lesbian representation, a perfect diversity pie chart, and director Leslye Headland, the former personal assistant to Harvey Weinstein. Headland noted that this version of Star Wars will break from the good vs. evil roots of the franchise and will instead explore morally relative characters. Truly, a crowd please…

The Acolyte, to be released this week, is expected to plunge in viewership after the first episode much like every other Star Wars show featured on Disney+. The corporation and the establishment media are already in damage control mode declaring that the fans are the problem

You horrible Cat people, how dare you not watch black lesbians in space! Hey, that’d be a good name for an Ed Wood movie! I suspect he was a better director than Kathleen Kennedy.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 6, 2024 9:55 am

The last movie I watched either on screen or the intarwebs, was “Saving Private Ryan”, when it first came out. I haven’t bothered since and see no reason to change my viewing habits.
So just for your enjoyment – “How Ping Pong Balls are Made” and with a snappy track, just for Rabz.
(Don’t people ever clean their damn production machinery?)

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 6, 2024 8:49 am

KevinM:

But scientists were stunned when they discovered that coriander seeds stored in the ant nest were broken down into 4 pieces instead of 2 pieces. After lab research, scientists discovered that a coriander seed will still germinate after being divided into two, but it won’t germinate after it’s divided into four parts.

I think you are referring to the Great Coriander Disaster of 42 Mya, when a flourishing civilisation of ants in Naarm was hoist several feet into the air as a bumper crop of coriander seeds, dutifully halved, nevertheless germinated.
It was immediately eaten by the Predatory Great Big Ant Eating Thing.
The episode moved into Ant History as a lesson to all those who doubted the veracity of The Great Big Book of Seed Storage.

KevinM
KevinM
June 6, 2024 11:22 am
Reply to  BobtheBoozer

LOL Bob, I wish I thought of this.
I will next time. But who knows, it may have happened this way?

Thou shalt divide coriander seeds into four parts, not two, not three but exactly four, as is written!

Fascinating how nature works but.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 6, 2024 8:56 am

Populism.

I’m old enough to remember when being on the side of the masses was a left wing “thing”. The “Voice of the People” was holy writ.

But now, anyone who takes the side of the people over the self-selected so-called “elites” is derided as being a far or hard right wing populist.

Orwell smiles, Nu-speak has arrived.

Last edited 9 months ago by Boambee John
Indolent
Indolent
June 6, 2024 8:59 am
Roger
Roger
June 6, 2024 9:00 am

I’ll bet you didn’t see this in the news:

In 2020, fuel regulations abruptly reduced the emission of sulfur dioxide from international shipping by about 80% and created an inadvertent geoengineering termination shock with global impact. Here we estimate the regulation leads to a radiative forcing of +0.2±0.11 Wm-2 averaged over the global ocean. The amount of radiative forcing could lead to a doubling (or more) of the warming rate in the 2020s compared with the rate since 1980 with strong spatiotemporal heterogeneity. 

Abrupt reduction in shipping emission as an inadvertent geoengineering termination shock produces substantial radiative warming
Green fuel regulations lead to worldwide global warming!

I’m sceptical as to whether any human activity impacts the climate in any significant way, but I’ll have to leave it to those who are more sciencey to dissect the assumptions and calculations in the above NASA paper.

In the meantime, don’t let the greenie in your life off the hook for this. Chuckle.

Last edited 9 months ago by Roger
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 6, 2024 9:10 am
Reply to  Roger

There’s certainly a correlation between banning sulfur in fuels and cloud cover. The cloud cover changes neatly explain global warming without CO2.

Of course the irony with this is rather than weirdo geoengineering projects all we’d have to do is let jets use kerosene with some sulfur in it. That would be particularly effective by releasing SO2 into the high troposphere. Also using high sulfur coal in power stations with FGD units turned off and as the paper says removing the ban on sulfur in Bunker C fuel oil for merchant ships would also work.

All that of course is complete anathema to the green-prog religion adherents.

132andBush
132andBush
June 6, 2024 9:52 am

Bruce,
I’ve always held the view that those pushing geoengineering in the form of SO2 addition to the atmosphere need to be in strait jackets in a padded cell for the sake of humanity. My worry being they could really tip things the wrong way on the cold side from which we may not recover, or at least a lot of people would die.

Do you think this is possible or would it only have a minimum affect?

Indolent
Indolent
June 6, 2024 9:00 am

@austerrewyatt1

Fauci testified the BOARD OF THE NIH approved the gain of function research not him.

He didn’t mention his wife was on that board.

She is in charge of BIOETHICS.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
June 6, 2024 9:21 am
Reply to  Indolent

I’d assign her the job in toto. Fly her out to the biggest ranch, provide her with the test kits, show her how to do the lab work, and let her go to do 30,000,000 tests. Alone.

Indolent
Indolent
June 6, 2024 9:04 am
Chris
Chris
June 6, 2024 9:10 am
Reply to  Indolent

Statistically impossible? Mmmmno. Statistically improbable based on particular assumptions, such as evenness of sampling and stationarity.

Indolent
Indolent
June 6, 2024 9:04 am
hzhousewife
hzhousewife
June 6, 2024 9:18 am
Reply to  Indolent

Expert practitioner recognises the form!

Indolent
Indolent
June 6, 2024 9:07 am
Chris
Chris
June 6, 2024 9:18 am

Populism.

I’m old enough to remember when being on the side of the masses was a left wing “thing”. The “Voice of the People” was holy writ.

But now, anyone who takes the side of the people over the self-selected so-called “elites” is derided as being a far or hard right wing populist.

Orwell smiles, Nu-speak has arrived.

But at no time were The People to be consulted; the Party was their Voice.

Its the same with this lot, except it speaks for Holy Gaia and Social Justice. These are ‘whatever the needs of the speaker are at the time’, which has the advantage that there are fewer voices to contradict, and thus have to be made ‘no problem’.

Roger
Roger
June 6, 2024 9:20 am

Fauci testified the BOARD OF THE NIH approved the gain of function research not him. He didn’t mention his wife was on that board.

She is in charge of BIOETHICS.

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

johanna
johanna
June 6, 2024 9:28 am

Just tuning in to Paul O’Grady’s ‘For the Love of Dogs’ on SBS, as I do most mornings.

It’s a PR exercise for Battersea, it’s corny and hokey, but I enjoy it. Good vibes. He was a gay entertainer who did stand up, drag and TV stuff for many years. There are no stains on his character of the kind that we often see today.

O’Grady (RIP) was the old fashioned kind of queen. He didn’t want to ram his sexuality down everyone’s throat at every opportunity, and he understood that there was a difference between his Adults Only shows and this family program about lost and abandoned dogs.

There is the odd double entendre which would go straight over the heads of young viewers, but mostly it is just a genuine and witty animal lover and an appealing cast of human and animal characters.

No doubt raised as Catholic in Liverpool or thereabouts, the cultural grounding is very apparent. And, he genuinely loved animals, and instinctively knew how to connect with them.

Flat faced dogs might be described as ‘looking like Ena Sharples’ or ‘havin’ a face like a Bristol publican’s wife.’ 🙂

Worth a look if you like animals and a bit of sly humour.

johanna
johanna
June 6, 2024 9:33 am

Re the ants and the seeds – from my observation, ants are like those computer programs that just keep running through gazillions of combinations until they find one that works.

Or maybe the opposite is true?

Whichever, a lot of progress is via trial and error – as we have all experienced! 🙂

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 6, 2024 12:27 pm
Reply to  johanna

Johanna, a year or so ago someone published an algorithm of ants crossing a puddle.
1 Is the ant in front of you (a) lying down or (b) standing up?
If (A) walk over him.
If (B) push him over, and go to (a).
I think that’s correct, but it’s an interesting study if you like looking at ants.

Kneel
Kneel
June 6, 2024 9:57 am

“…you are never going to win a battle of credentialism against Anthony Fauci.”

It’s not so much that they got it wrong, but rather that they said it was solidly backed by science and you had to do what they said or you were killing grandma.
If they’d have said “Look, it’s new, we don’t know, but we believe such-and-so will help, and that this-and-that will make a difference, so we’d suggest that everyone do these things, but at the end of the day it’s up to individuals to do the right thing” then when things turned out differently, I could accept that they did their best.
But they didn’t – they said “You must ‘social distance’ or you’ll be fined!”, and “If you don’t get a vax, you can’t leave your house…” when these things were not, in actual fact, based on research at all, but what they felt would work.
And now that it turns out there were unanticipated problems with all that stuff, they’re saying “We did what we thought would work – we had to do something!”, it falls pretty flat – to me, anyway.
Sorry, by doing what they did instead of being honest and straightforward about what they knew and what was a guess, they have lost trust with people. That’s their own fault, and frankly is a very bad thing – how can I believe that any pronouncements they make actually are backed by science when they lied last time around? Not only how can I believe it, but why should I, given their history?

m0nty
June 6, 2024 10:08 am

Ah geez, now BJ is claiming to be a distinguished scientist too.

Bruce claimed that because his pet rocks have lichen living on them, or something, he knew better than Fauci about how to manage a pandemic. No Bruce, you have no specialist domain knowledge in Fauci’s field.

Science is a process of trial and error. The fact that it incorporates some error has sent you lot insane. You just can’t comprehend the concept of agreeing to curtail your personal freedoms as an ongoing experiment to see whether it will save lives.

Like in that Dilbert comic upthread, you are asking for Fauci to achieve incompatible goals. No, you can’t maximise both freedom and safety in a pandemic. We don’t know going into it what the right mix should be. There will be some A/B testing and some overreach. This is part of the scientific process.

Normal people understood this, didn’t like the restrictions, but got why it was happening. You lot are just spoilt children, still whining years later. You are pathetic.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 6, 2024 10:14 am
Reply to  m0nty

Hmmm, why was it happening?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 6, 2024 10:19 am
Reply to  m0nty

Feel free to vook off, whenever you like, monty.

Arky
June 6, 2024 10:40 am
Reply to  m0nty

Science is a process of trial and error. 

Wrong. Trial and error is one possible procedure within scientific study. Others, such as logic, consensus of opinions, reason, observation, dissection or induction are commonly used. Trial and error or brute force, is time consuming and not used so much.
..

You just can’t comprehend the concept of agreeing to curtail your personal freedoms…

You mean “agree to curtail your behaviour”, not freedoms. If one is free to agree to something they are by definition keeping that freedom.
..

You just can’t comprehend the concept of agreeing to curtail your personal freedoms as an ongoing experiment to see whether it will save lives.

..
Not “whether it will save lives” but “whether more lives will be saved or lost” The missing part of your sentence is the place where we can see why people had to be FREE to make their own medical decisions.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 6, 2024 10:58 am
Reply to  m0nty

LOL, Monty’s back. I must’ve hit him below the waterline, he’s really butthurt.

Paging Barry Marshall!

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 6, 2024 11:12 am
Reply to  m0nty

Thanks for confirming that you read my comments. You can now stop pretending that you don’t.

As for the rest of your crude attempt at scientism, if a climate eggspurt said that we should all live in caves to save the world, would you do it?

PS, I don’t make any claim to be a distinguished scientist, but I am certainly more knowledgeable in some relevant fields, like statistics, than you are, while Fauci seems to have forgotten all the statistical knowledge he might ever have had.

dopey
dopey
June 6, 2024 11:23 am
Reply to  m0nty

Professor Monty, does the sun make an orbit of the solar system? Trial and error will tell you.

Figures
Figures
June 6, 2024 10:16 am

What on earth do you know about science Monty?

You think that men can have babies.

Science is falsifiable and therefore disease based medicine (which is predicated on probabilities) is not science.

Nor is climate “science”.

The concept of “trial and error” is meaningless. You can argue that homeopathy or astrology or bloodletting or whatever involve “trial and error” if you want to. After all, is something that is constantly in “error” (eg vaccines) more scientific than something that is never wrong (eg Maxwell’s equations)?

Nor is the idea that if something is published in “scientific journals” anything useful – it is just circular reasoning (because people only think journals are scientific if they agree with them).

You don’t understand anything about the philosophy of science. You don’t understand anything about anything.

m0nty
June 6, 2024 10:32 am
Reply to  Figures

Speaking of pathetic children, here is Figures with his pre-school understanding of science.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 6, 2024 11:15 am
Reply to  m0nty

Speaking of just plain pathetic, here is mUntird, with his complete absence of any knowledge of science trying to sound at least semi-intelligent.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 6, 2024 11:33 am
Reply to  m0nty

Dunning-Kruger is strong with this one.

johanna
johanna
June 6, 2024 10:18 am

Piss off, troll.

And, readers, please don’t feed it.

Bill From The Bush
Bill From The Bush
June 6, 2024 10:38 am
Reply to  johanna

Totally agree with you.
Feeding trolls is giving them the attention they crave.

Figures
Figures
June 6, 2024 10:20 am

You just can’t comprehend the concept of agreeing to curtail your personal freedoms as an ongoing experiment to see whether it will save lives.

My theory is that all leftists are superspreaders and, in order to protect the rest of us, they need to be held in prison until they are given 1 million vaccines. We have to test this theory to see if it’s in error – because of SCIENCE!!!!

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 6, 2024 1:28 pm
Reply to  Figures

Certainly it sounds sciency.
Using the uncertainty principal, we must do this experiment.

Hugh
Hugh
June 6, 2024 10:27 am

Next up, Grendel’s mother will lecture us on table etiquette.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 6, 2024 11:17 am
Reply to  Hugh

Coffee via nasal passages all over iPad.
Many many lols.

local oaf
June 6, 2024 10:31 am

Too much Monty?

Why not get one of these handy new Monty monitors

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2FOCOL90Vs&t=20s&pp=ygUNbW9udHkgbW9uaXRvcg%3D%3D

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 6, 2024 10:38 am

Mutley angry the Milko is still there banging his wife.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 6, 2024 10:39 am

Reading “Churchill’s shadow” by Geoffrey Wheatcroft.

Churchill’s lifelong friend F.E. Smith, Earl Birkenhead, was famous for his legal learning and insolent wit. To one judge who said “Having read your submission, Mr Smith, I am none the wiser.” he replied “No, m’lord, but much better informed.” Years later, when a pompous judge , perplexed about the correct sentencing policy in what was then called a case of unnatural vice, asked Smith, then Lord Chancellor, “What do you give a man, who allows himself to be b#ggered?” Birkenhead answered ” Oh, thirty shillings, two pounds, whatever you have on you.”

Arky
June 6, 2024 10:42 am

Science is a process of trial and error. 

Wrong. Trial and error is one possible procedure within scientific study. Others, such as logic, consensus of opinions, reason, observation, dissection or induction are commonly used. Trial and error or brute force, is time consuming and not used so much.
..

You just can’t comprehend the concept of agreeing to curtail your personal freedoms…

You mean “agree to curtail your behaviour”, not freedoms. If one is free to agree to something they are by definition keeping that freedom.
..

You just can’t comprehend the concept of agreeing to curtail your personal freedoms as an ongoing experiment to see whether it will save lives.

(My italics)
..
Not “whether it will save lives” but “whether more lives will be saved or lost” The missing part of your sentence is the place where we can see why people had to be FREE to make their own medical decisions.

From embedded.

Eyrie
Eyrie
June 6, 2024 10:49 am

My theory is that all leftists are superspreaders and, in order to protect the rest of us, they need to be held in prison

Anyone else good with helicopters? We can do some trial and error to see if they can fly.

Chris
Chris
June 6, 2024 12:48 pm
Reply to  Eyrie

As God is my witness… I thought those turkeys could fly.
If you don’t budget resources for the checking, we could complete the trial before checking results.

cohenite
June 6, 2024 10:56 am

m0nty
 June 6, 2024 10:08 am

Dickless doesn’t do irony. Science is trial and error the troll spews. Yet it supports alarmism which is based on the science is settled and fauci who opined that that attacks on him are ‘actually criticizing science’. So masks work, 6′ distancing works and the covid came from a bat’s arse not a chunk lab and the jabs have no side effects.
Go and look after the milko’s kiddies dickless. Do something useful instead of vomiting bullshit.

Lysander
Lysander
June 6, 2024 11:08 am

Astronomers seem more willing to burn each other, and long-held theories down, unlike “climatologists.”

I note the raging debate about the Hubble Constant at the moment. There’s plenty on YouTube but the latest findings of the JWS Telescope are causing some serious problems.

Scientists can’t currently explain why the most distant galaxy they have found is (1) Accelerating too fast according to the BB Theory and (2) It is too well formed, meaning that it would have formed very early after the BB; likely impossibly so.

This finding has raised three questions:

1) Is our maths wrong?
2) Is the whole BB Theory wrong?
3) Is humanity’s whole concept of space and time fundamentally flawed.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 6, 2024 11:18 am
Reply to  Lysander

That’s why I mentioned Barry Marshall.

He showed the entire medical science establishment was wrong. All the Faucis, all the Birxes, all the Suttons, the lot.

Got the Nobel for it, one of the most deserved awards since they were started.

These days they’d gaol him for challenging the received wisdom of his lefty medical overlords.

Lysander
Lysander
June 6, 2024 11:30 am

Barry was a legend. He could drink a fair bit too!!!

Eyrie
Eyrie
June 6, 2024 12:10 pm
Reply to  Lysander

Never did like BB.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 6, 2024 1:35 pm
Reply to  Lysander

1) Is our maths wrong?

2) Is the whole BB Theory wrong?

3) Is humanity’s whole concept of space and time fundamentally flawed.

Pick me! Pick me!
I have the answ

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 6, 2024 1:37 pm
Reply to  BobtheBoozer

God:
“No. The answer is not 42.”
You are terminated for Silly Answers.

Lysander
Lysander
June 6, 2024 11:10 am

For Cats, so inclined, you can read more at:

A Possible Crisis in the Cosmos Could Lead to a New Understanding of the Universe | Scientific American

Several unexplained measurements are threatening to upend scientists’ understanding of the universe’s origin and fate

cohenite
June 6, 2024 11:11 am

When is the West going to do something about islam:

Two-Thirds of Unemployment Benefits in Germany Go to . . . | Frontpage Mag

Roger
Roger
June 6, 2024 11:18 am
Reply to  cohenite

The revolution is being subsidised.

Gabor
Gabor
June 6, 2024 11:35 am
Reply to  cohenite

Merkel’s father was Horst Kasner. a communist and lunatic multiculturalist.

Roger
Roger
June 6, 2024 11:12 am

Several unexplained measurements are threatening to upend scientists’ understanding of the universe’s origin and fate

Oh, no…this can’t be. The science was settled.

johanna
johanna
June 6, 2024 11:16 am

TheirABC, friend of the people, really cares about the thousands of homeless people, not to mention the many on the brink.

Here is one of today’s offerings:

When Kirsty and Mark were looking for a property in the Adelaide Hills, the heritage officer and architect were after something a little different.
They found it in the form of a 170-year-old colonial cottage that was slowly being reclaimed by thickets of blackberries and overgrowth around it.
The couple purchased the property known as Longview, which included a cottage and a second modern house, for $945,000 in late 2021.
Their plan was a DIY restoration on the 40-square-metre cottage to save the history of the building, and also give their family of five a little more room.
Even if there weren’t heritage restrictions in place, Mark and Kirsty said their aim was to do an authentic restoration, using as many techniques and materials specific to the period it was built as possible.
“There’ll be no modern paints or modern cement renders, it’ll be all lime — lime renders and lime paints,” Mark said.
The budget was $100,000 and they were hoping they could have it finished in a year.

Yup, just your typical battlers, complete with heritage awareness.

ABC types will be invited to the housewarming.

PEOPLE ARE LIVING IN THEIR CARS, WANKERS.

Hopefully the cars are being owned and maintained in eco-sensitive ways,

I detest these people with a whole new form of detestation, so I’m attaching a little number on the upper right hand side of the numeric.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
June 6, 2024 11:52 am
Reply to  johanna

I think it’s Erin on a Friday night on Sky who has a segment each week highlighting a multi-million dollar house for sale. Must be an earner for the channel, doubt it applies to most viewers

Alamak!
June 6, 2024 12:24 pm
Reply to  johanna

heartrending tories about “our” people who think like “us” barely getting by and having to live in a shack worth only 945k.

I shed a tear or 2 .. not.

Yup, just your typical battlers, complete with heritage awareness.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 6, 2024 2:13 pm
Reply to  johanna

Looking for Radelaide battlers try Elizabeth, having to choose between Fridays meth pipe and a new tattoo.

Crossie
Crossie
June 6, 2024 11:20 am

If they’d have said “Look, it’s new, we don’t know, but we believe such-and-so will help, and that this-and-that will make a difference, so we’d suggest that everyone do these things, but at the end of the day it’s up to individuals to do the right thing” then when things turned out differently, I could accept that they did their best.

This is what I wanted and expected to see at the start of the so-called pandemic, just wanted us to be treated as adults. What’s more, it didn’t make sense that the situation was not presented in this way. All we heard were slogans like “the new normal”. The other red alert was that no innovation or experimentation with treatments was allowed let alone encouraged. Three strikes and the powers that be were no longer legitimate.

With all of the above it’s hard not to suspect that there was something else at play and that the truth would have spoiled those plans. The tragedy is that all of this has brought medicine, science and technology into disrepute that may take generations to correct.

johanna
johanna
June 6, 2024 11:29 am
Reply to  Crossie

I have no idea what that gibberish means.

Vicki
Vicki
June 6, 2024 12:31 pm
Reply to  Crossie

bern – I buy the frozen ones now and they are top quality. Mind you, I use them as an ingredient in our Nutribullet drink every morning – blueberries/green apple/carrot/celery & an orange out of our orchard.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 6, 2024 12:41 pm
Reply to  Vicki

Yep, I have the frozen ones in the freezer for back up, with a couple of smaller freezer bags ready to thaw overnight as needed.
Cheap at both Costco & Coles.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 6, 2024 11:24 am

Costco haven’t had blueberries on sale for the two times I’ve been there over the last five weeks.
They seemed to have peaked at 50 bucks a kilo.
Coles are selling them at 70 bucks a kilo as of the weekend.
No wonder controlled environment (green houses) has experienced explosive growth over the past two years.

Crossie
Crossie
June 6, 2024 11:33 am
Reply to  feelthebern

My Guess is that blueberries are out of season here and in the northern hemisphere at the moment.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 6, 2024 12:09 pm
Reply to  Crossie

Maybe.
But more likely part of the WEF & Soros master plan.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 6, 2024 11:31 am

Had a blood test this morning.
The fasting is easy, not having a morning coffee had me on edge.
I’m first in at 8:30.
Sitting in the little room & the nurse walks in with a huge mug of coffee.
It was almost cartoonish with the smell wafting around the room.
This has to be a breach of some OH&S policy.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 6, 2024 1:53 pm
Reply to  feelthebern

When I was doing the Nursing Training in 1983, we still had the older Sisters who would have gone through the war. Some of them were quite rigid in their outlook.
Doing a medications round, I always started with a coffee on the trolley. Little old Nursing Supervisor totters over and glares at the coffee. “That doesn’t look very professional, Mister Sewell.”
Never have been someone who could resist a retort for whatever reason, I replied “It looks even more unprofessional if I’m lying on the floor in a Low Caffeine Coma, Sister.”
I’m not sure what she thought, but a large six foot male talking about caffeine comas may have stretched her understanding of the Nursing Student role as she tottered back off to the Nursing Station.

Bruce in WA
June 6, 2024 6:33 pm
Reply to  feelthebern

I’m allowed black coffee even when fasting??

bons
bons
June 6, 2024 11:32 am

This is dififferent. One of the dogs is off colour so I had them inside last night and left the rear door ajar.

In the middle of the night they went berserk so I staggered out expecting a possum or even a snake. Nope, it was an echidna patrolling the kitchen floor. I have never seen one here and I cannot imagine how it got onto the property given that it is walled.

He/she is now ensconced in a cardboard box and is off to animal rescue. Given the number of dogs around here, its survival is a miracle.

Roger
Roger
June 6, 2024 11:58 am
Reply to  bons

Echidnas are great diggers, bons. You’ll find a hole somewhere.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
June 6, 2024 11:34 am

Where is the coloured gob-stopper for this clown?

https://content.api.news/v3/images/bin/4af533e521c2cbc923814df85df8c7e7

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 6, 2024 11:35 am

That was very interesting about the preliminary findings from the telescope.Truth is variable as the facts come to hand. Conservatives are wary generally only changing their mind upon evidence and proof provided. It is all we can go by. The looney left, which is all of them, truth is what it is no matter the evidence to the contrary. If the evidence proves overwhelmingly something to be false then another equally ridiculous reason will be provided.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 6, 2024 11:38 am

Bons, echidnas are the most widespread native animal in Australia. Not many people know that. Said in a Cockney accent.

johanna
johanna
June 6, 2024 11:52 am
Reply to  GreyRanga

Yup, have seen echidnas several times around the Canberra/Queanbeyan region.

They trundle around happily along trails made by humans.

Plenty of platypus as well, both in Lake BG and locally in the river.

Reports of their imminent extinction are full of it.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 6, 2024 11:39 am

Where is the coloured gob-stopper for this clown?

Nazis gotta nazi.

Adam Bandt threatens to sue Attorney General Mark Dreyfus for alleged defamation (Sky News, 6 Jun)

Blackest of irony seeing Dreyfus is Jewish.

one old bruce
one old bruce
June 6, 2024 2:05 pm

And in the same statement Bandt makes wild claims about genocide and ‘36,000’ dead which are themselves surely defamatory, since the numbers are unverifiable and the ICC claim is widely condemned. Can the Jewish community sue Bandt? Perhaps he has even singled out a particular race for vilification, by implication, so he broke that law as well. Grounds for de-registering the Greens?

one old bruce
one old bruce
June 6, 2024 2:23 pm
Reply to  one old bruce

PS, Bandt? Barossa German. I see that “very few” Barossa Germans supported the Nazi Party. Hardly any.

Lysander
Lysander
June 6, 2024 11:49 am
BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 6, 2024 1:57 pm
Reply to  Lysander

OMIGERD! OMIGERD!
When in danger, when in doubt,
Run in circles, scream and shout!
/doublesarc.

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Gabor
Gabor
June 6, 2024 11:58 am

Crossie
June 6, 2024 11:20 am

This is what I wanted and expected to see at the start of the so-called pandemic, just wanted us to be treated as adults. What’s more, it didn’t make sense that the situation was not presented in this way. All we heard were slogans like “the new normal”. The other red alert was that no innovation or experimentation with treatments was allowed let alone encouraged.

This authoritarian tone was the most upsetting for me.
I had to take the wretched thing, luckily only once, not to lose my job.

But my sister who is a sucker for any order or recommendation coming from officials was the first to take the jab of AZ and a couple of boosters after.

She had two hip replacements after that and the first time she was extremely lucky that the nurse was with her after the operation, she had a stroke, couldn’t speak, just gesture and as I said lucky being in the right place with someone.

Reason, blood clot.

The second time after the op. they were watching her like a hawk and sure enough she had a stroke, small blood clot again.

She is now on blood thinners which gives her other problems.
I am not saying it was definitely caused by the vaccine, I am not a medical specialist nor do I immerse myself in the literature about the subject.
It just made me think reading the posts here

Vicki
Vicki
June 6, 2024 12:27 pm
Reply to  Gabor

Gabor, AZ was renown for causing thrombosis and micro clotting. It has since been withdrawn from the market.

cohenite
June 6, 2024 11:59 am

Trump latest:

1 Georgia CA has indefinitely paused the fanny willis case against Trump

2 A federal appeals court has stopped accepting public complaints, many seeking the recusal of U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon, from the U.S. Government’s classified documents case against former President Donald Trump, citing a flood of 1,000 filings in recent weeks that appear to be part of “an orchestrated campaign.” The orchestration appears to be by jack Smith.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 6, 2024 2:00 pm
Reply to  cohenite

It’s sort of looking as if ALL the Lawfare stuff is slowly rebounding on the Democrats.

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
June 6, 2024 12:02 pm

Echidnas are like the bats of the bush- they’re everywhere, all the time, but bloody hard to see for some reason. They’re like a camouflaged chameleon, wrapped in an enigma. Then dipped in spikes.
In my half-century here, ive only seen two in the wild.
They also provide an invaluable service to global warming gas pollution offset mitigation, by predating the species responsible for 1/3 of the earth’s methane toxic emmissions- termites*.
*more or less accurate. The other 2/3 comes from Snowy 2.0 and vegan farts from Naaarm.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 6, 2024 12:11 pm

WHO confirms first fatal human case of bird flu A(H5N2)

Crazed sex poodle news.

Al Gore Drives Climate Hysteria at WHO: Demands ‘transition…away from the unhealthy practice of burning fossil fuels’ (5 Jun)

These people never shut up, never go away, never learn anything and never stop their hypocrisy. Sort of like someone who obsessively visits this blog.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 6, 2024 2:02 pm

That’s very cruel, BoN. I only come here and dribble when I’m awake.

Cassie of Sydney
June 6, 2024 12:12 pm

For my fellow canine lovers…

Family dog succumbs to wounds after saving loved ones on Oct. 7
?June 5, 2024 by JNS

The canine hero who saved her family from Hamas’s Oct. 7 attack on Kibbutz Be’eri has succumbed to injuries sustained during the harrowing ordeal, according to Ynet.

According to the Ben Zvi family, Petel’s (the name means Raspberry) relentless barking alerted them to the presence of terrorists attempting to break into their home. The family credits the dog’s warning, amplified by a baby monitor, for causing the terrorists to flee the scene.

“The terrorists heard the dog in stereo. I can only assume that the scene became too complicated for them and they decided to leave the house,” Ela Ben Zvi recounted.

Tragically, when the family was evacuated by soldiers later that day, they were forced to leave Petel behind; she was traumatized by the explosions and too afraid to come out. They provided her with food and water, intending to retrieve her once the situation was resolved. However, in a devastating turn of events, soldiers conducting searches in the kibbutz mistakenly believed terrorists were present in the house and opened fire, and Petel was hit by shrapnel.

Upon realizing their mistake, the soldiers swiftly transported her to a veterinarian. After receiving medical care, she was eventually reunited with her beloved family. Despite her ordeal and advanced age of 11 years, Petel persevered “and received a lot of love, hugs and pets,” said Ben Zvi.

“But she was an older dog…and she went through a lot and spent a lot of energy on her rehabilitation and recovery,” she added. “There were several people who told us that she held on a little longer to be with us, and then she let go.”

Truly a man’s best friend. May Petel’s memory forever be a blessing.

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Vicki
Vicki
June 6, 2024 12:22 pm

Just another event to break my heart, as I am a hopeless lover of animals.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 6, 2024 2:05 pm

I hope that one day, when Mankind settles other planets, we take dogs along with us.
Cats should only be taken for videos and as a walking food supply.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 6, 2024 12:19 pm

The canine hero

Petel has a friend if there’s a doggie heaven.

Disaster prevented: Hamas captured Oketz K-9 dog, IDF soldiers took action (5 Jun)

Hamas terrorists killed an Oketz K-9 Unit dog, which was sent to track them down, and planted explosive charges in [his] body to injure the soldiers. Their vigilance prevented a disaster.

The K-9 soldiers, canine and human both, have been doing incredible acts of heroism. I hope this fine doggie bit a terrorist before he fell in battle.

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Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
June 6, 2024 12:33 pm

Media does what media does:
Israel accused of shooting back at Hezbollocks in Lebanon.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 6, 2024 12:57 pm
Reply to  Bungonia Bee

Somewhat strangely, the media might have forgotten to mention that the Hizbies shot first.

Vicki
Vicki
June 6, 2024 12:36 pm

The tragedy is that all of this has brought medicine, science and technology into disrepute that may take generations to correct.

This may have a silver lining – since it may encourage people to question the amount of medication they are prescribed. Statins is the obvious one in question, but there are many others that are routinely prescribed as people age. Apparently the number of drugs taken in aged homes is staggering. Already there are cardiac medications coming on the market that utilise the new nano gene affecting technology. One actually edits our genes to eliminate possible future cardiac problems. What could possibly go wrong?

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feelthebern
feelthebern
June 6, 2024 12:44 pm
Reply to  Vicki

Dunno about statins…so many competing views on that.
But everything else, 100%.
People need to do basic stuff to take control of their health.

John H.
John H.
June 6, 2024 1:01 pm
Reply to  feelthebern

Difficult! Lowering lpa is more important but that is very difficult. Recently a drug has been designed to lower lpa.

What is not widely known are the studies suggesting lowering cholesterol can aid in cancer treatment and survival.

Vicki
Vicki
June 6, 2024 1:46 pm
Reply to  John H.

Recently a drug has been designed to lower lpa.

John H, I know you do your own research but this one needs careful consideration. I have recently had a pretty long consultation with a prominent cardiologist who hadn’t read some of the latest research. He foolishly suggested I must be reading “Mr. Google” I then pulled out a dozen cardio articles from prestigious journals relating to some of these new drugs. He was astonished & had not seen some of them.

As bern noted, there is a lot of controversy re statins – but the pendulum (even among some cardios) is tending to note that, at best, they can prolong your life very little (based on stats & a lot of studies) but can have nasty side effects.

The thrombosis v cholesterol argument has revived in recent years. Haven’t heard from our own flying duk on the Cat recently, but I would think he has some views of the topic.

BTW my understanding is that statins will not lower lpa. The only drug that apparently will…..is good old aspirin!

Cassie of Sydney
June 6, 2024 12:40 pm

In Judaism there is no ‘doggie heaven’…..the Jewish perspective is that all life on this planet has a soul, and when that life dies, be it a dog, human, cat or crocodile, the soul of that person/animal returns to the creator, Hashem.

Lysander
Lysander
June 6, 2024 12:42 pm

I’m pretty sure Catholicism is the same? I think it was Aquinas (I stand to be corrected) who said that animals had a “material soul” which dissipated upon death…

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 6, 2024 12:52 pm

Yes, the Christian Bible is silent on the question. I was just making a tangential comment, didn’t intend to be theological at all. Those two canines were heroic, faithful and deserve being lauded.

Lysander
Lysander
June 6, 2024 1:00 pm

LOL I wasn’t holding you responsible for any heresy Brucey! 🙂

Vicki
Vicki
June 6, 2024 1:55 pm

“Doggie heaven”???? Who knows. I love my animals and mourn them when they pass on. Shortly after my little spaniel died (years ago) an image appeared in my mind of her skipping along & stopping, as she would do, to wait for me to catch up. She turned her head, saw that I wasn’t coming….& just kept happily going. A similar image appeared of my 19 year old Abyssinian cat when she died but, as was her personalty at the end, she didn’t turn her head, but walked on in her obstinate way.

Maybe that is just my brain’s way of coping.

KevinM
KevinM
June 6, 2024 3:10 pm
Reply to  Vicki

Vicki, I had the same experience on a different level, ie. human, hence my current intense interest in studying the Bible from different sources. Christian, Jewish, perhaps I should broaden my interest to other religions, but one is enough for the time being.

Still in limbo and being a pest questioning but better be an informed agnostic than an ignorant, blind believer.

With dogs, never had an other dog after my last one passed, too much heartache.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 6, 2024 4:09 pm
Reply to  Vicki

I still see Attapuss in his old fave spots even though I know he’s not there. Miss him so much.

calli
calli
June 6, 2024 4:48 pm

Yes, Bruce. There is a silence on the issue…they live and are then no more.

But…and it’s a big but – “Behold I am making all things new”. All things, all creation will be redeemed in some way or other. I take it that anything was good or worthy will live on.

I suppose I’m a little swayed by Lewis’ picture of the new, real world and the farewell to the shadowlands. 🙂

Annie
Annie
June 6, 2024 11:53 pm
Reply to  calli

I like C.S.Lewis’s thoughts on the matter. If love is what finally matters and survives, then a loved and loving animal does. I do hope he is right.

mareeS
mareeS
June 6, 2024 6:03 pm

In my Catholic upbringing, we were taught that the place called heaven after death is where one’s soul returns into God’s love and peace.I got very close a couple of times during an illness, and it did feel like surrendering into the arms of peace. Though, hear I remain in life’s mortal coil.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
June 6, 2024 12:41 pm

Minns does what Labor mostly does:
“That big deficit we have, caused by the previous government …”
Now, I don’t want to excuse any government for over-reacting to the covid scamdemic and (i) spending too much (including on welfare), (ii) causing business failures, and (iii) releasing their inner tyrant and sooling the cops onto the citizenry plus depriving us all of our rights to go about our normal lives.
But: Labor were all lining up with their hands out, asking for covid relief funds. Labor in VIC were shockers.
Frydenberg was about to announce a surplus when the covid crap hit the fan.
So don’t come the raw and mouldy prawn with that old excuse about what coalition governments did that impacted on budget bottom lines. All were in it, all are implicated, and all should be punished.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 6, 2024 12:56 pm
Reply to  Bungonia Bee

Funny how whenever Labor are in power the state debt blows out. Then the LNP comes in and fixes the problem. Victoria is a notorious example, they’re in yet another round of this particular circus.

billie
June 6, 2024 2:01 pm

I don’t understand why LNP bothers to clean up the debt left by Labor governments since they get booted out very quickly hence – no one cares.

Just leave the debt, I know I know that’s not the conservative way, but Labor are going to blame LNP anyway.

Play with their rules and see how it goes .. please, someone just give it a go.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 6, 2024 12:45 pm

Is this Iron Dome battery getting blown up old news, new news or fake news?

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
June 6, 2024 12:46 pm

Minns is now apologising for the criminalising of homosexuality. It wasn’t just one side of politics that did it, and it isn’t now a bed of roses that it’s no longer criminal. There are risks to health, particularly for males (but who cares?), and risks to societal cohesion.
It’d be refreshing for both Labor and Greens to apologise for all the things they have done which have helped our formerly cohesive and reasonably affluent society to go downhill to the vast extent that it has.

Helen
Helen
June 6, 2024 12:54 pm
Reply to  Bungonia Bee

They’ll be running out of things to apologise for soon, what then?

Roger
Roger
June 6, 2024 12:57 pm
Reply to  Bungonia Bee

It’d be refreshing for both Labor and Greens to apologise for all the things they have done which have helped our formerly cohesive and reasonably affluent society to go downhill to the vast extent that it has.

You’d need to line them up against a wall before a firing squad for that to happen.

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Barry
Barry
June 6, 2024 2:20 pm
Reply to  Roger

Even if they don’t recant, that sounds worthwhile.

Arky
June 6, 2024 3:14 pm
Reply to  Bungonia Bee

Minns is now apologising for the criminalising of homosexuality

..
”Homosexuality” was never criminal. Various dirty acts were.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 6, 2024 4:14 pm
Reply to  Bungonia Bee

It’s not compulsory. Although people in Sydney may think so.

Roger
Roger
June 6, 2024 12:55 pm

These people never shut up, never go away, never learn anything and never stop their hypocrisy. 

The money keeps rolling in with every speech but…

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 6, 2024 1:11 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

Wall them off. Let no one out unless they apostatize. If they later recant their apostatization put them back over the wall.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 6, 2024 1:20 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

In their own countries.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 6, 2024 2:34 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

Who cares?

billie
June 6, 2024 2:06 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

Some say, the words of Abbott Amalric might come into play.

Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius.

That was in the past, this is now though.

Personally, I don’t know what we can do, short of the entire country voting to throw them out, to somewhere not here.

Eventually I reckon, that, though extreme, may be a path forward.

Barry
Barry
June 6, 2024 2:16 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

Partition was very popular last century. I’m coming round to the idea that it was not so unwise.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 6, 2024 2:18 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

Take the sugar of the table.
Let them go back to their own culture.
If they are naturalised citizens, then they’ve taken citizenship under false pretences as they still hold their religion over the State. Send them back to their own cultural roots.
There’s plenty we can do but our leaders refuse to do it, and their refusal will end up with the ethnic cleansing that is a repeated feature of Islam coming in contact with another religion – but this time it’s going to be Europe that is cleansed of Christianity.

Vicki
Vicki
June 6, 2024 2:19 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

Ever the realist, DB. Even so, the West MUST belatedly stop admitting them into our nations. Not easy, of course, now that so many of their brethren are in our communities and are ever ready to cry racism or discrimination.

Nevertheless, although the horse has bolted, we need not sit down and watch the mayhem. We need to start asserting the OBLIGATIONS of citizenship – rather than thank them incessantly for deigning to join us. Similarly, we need to start, or RE start, celebrations of our nationhood and achievement.

The current fear re Islam is fundamentally because we have retreated from the conviction that we have something worthwhile in our British heritage. Damn it…the Brits themselves are into self loathing these days. This attitude is poison to a society. The Islamist can sniff out self doubt in an instant.

We can start by TOTALLY backing Israel and our own Jewish community. Personally, I think that Frydenberg’s excellent doco, with admirable positions taken by Labor luminaries, may have turned a corner in the appalling anti-semitism that has shocked the nation.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 6, 2024 4:06 pm
Reply to  Vicki

French option. Severely control the ones you already have. Good idea to limit new entrants too.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 6, 2024 1:09 pm

Balloons are killing the planet.

NSW Greens MP Kobi Shetty calls for statewide ban on helium balloons outdoors (6 Jun)

The release of a single helium balloon could soon carry an $1100 fine under a new call for a statewide ban in NSW. …

Speaking in parliament, Ms Shetty said the ban on releasing balloons outdoors should apply to all materials, including the foil and plastic mix Mylar balloon and latex balloons that incorrectly claim to be “biodegradable”. …

Ms Shetty said the proposed change would prevent the “tragic deaths of countless animals, ensuring a safer future for our wildlife”.

Hey lady! Can we also ban wind turbines while we’re at it? They cause far more “tragic deaths of countless animals” than party balloons do. Birds too. You wouldn’t want to be a hypocrite would you?

Eyrie
Eyrie
June 6, 2024 2:15 pm

Anything to stop people having harmless fun.
What is she going to do about weather balloons?

johnjjj
johnjjj
June 6, 2024 3:20 pm

Here is the problem Kobi and her team
One photo pretty well sums it up.

Muddy
Muddy
June 6, 2024 5:38 pm

Settling for a state-wide or even world-wide ban is the lazy option. Why not be ambitious and push for a galaxy-wide ban and set an example for other habitable planets?

Lysander
Lysander
June 6, 2024 1:22 pm

There was some talk about BOM’s forecasting… my two cents…

I think BOM are pretty good* at forecasting weather that’s 4 to 6 days out. They are total crap at forecasting anything beyond that. Some companies in the US can provide pretty good 20+ day forecasts and I think that proves that the private sector is better placed to do this, rather than gubbermint.

*BOM have had at least two doosies recently in Perth; on both days, in that very morning, they predicted 0% chance of any rain. It wasn’t until the Northern burbs were underwater did they change the forecast…

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 6, 2024 1:28 pm

ADF culture ‘may be’ behind women’s reluctance to joinBen Packham

The Chief of the Defence Force Angus Campbell has conceded the ADF’s culture “may be” a factor in women’s reluctance to join-up, as a Senate committee heard more than one in three surveyed female recruits said they were victims of sexual misconduct.
The 2021 survey results, first tabled in the royal commission into defence and veterans’ suicide, revealed 36 per cent of women at the Australian Defence Force Academy said they had experienced sexual misconduct at the college.
But 30 per cent of Defence recruits who experienced unacceptable behaviour took no action, with many reporting “the behaviour is accepted around here”.
Greens Senator David Shoebridge read the survey results into evidence during a Senate estimates hearing, which earlier heard Defence was forecast to achieve just 57 per cent of its recruiting target this year.
Senator Shoebridge asked General Campbell whether women were being deterred from joining the ADF by the organisation’s workplace culture.
General Campbell replied: “Senator, it may be a consideration by potential applicants and indeed families of those applicants, amongst a range of other considerations, some that might encourage and some that might discourage application to serve.”
The committee also heard the military court martial system was letting off offenders convicted of indecent assaults with small fines and reductions of rank.
The data showed such cases “almost never end in dismissal”, and offenders’ records were “wiped” when they entered civilian life, Senator Shoebridge said.
General Campbell said he was aware of the issue but had not raised it with Defence Minister Richard Marles.

Bluey
Bluey
June 6, 2024 2:46 pm

Nothing to do with the dirty, physical, hard work for long hours in many of the corps I’m sure.

Chris
Chris
June 6, 2024 3:51 pm

My data points:
1) As a reserve soldier in the 1970s I saw some bad behaviour from fellow teenage diggers. There were a very few female soldiers with us, and they had to negotiate the ‘male only’ world, not have the male world make safe spaces for them. In the latter stages of drunken dining-in nights etc, one or two drunken losers greatly exceeded their welcomes, entering female quarters with stupid ambitions. If 98% of soldiers will in all circumstances treat decent women decently, that leaves a few whose behaviour might be very bad when drunk or drug affected.
When my daughter was interested in following her brother into the army via a post high school reserves gap year plan, I was dead against it, because I believed the chance of being raped was way too high.

2) I am since acquainted with a female army reserve officer who has had a psych retirement. The root cause event was being raped by a senior NCO. I don’t know anything beyond that, but the harm is substantial.

I am not sure that the Army is the root cause here; youth, testosterone, and a male sense of entitlement to sex among the terminally stupid are characteristic of the wider world.

But trying to use the modern sense of female entitlement to power over the behaviour and attitudes of young men in groups seems to be the way feminists teach, including in the Army.

Lysander
Lysander
June 6, 2024 1:42 pm

Canadian conservative leader Pierre Poilievre seems pretty solid?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 6, 2024 1:43 pm

Space fish.

Fish on Board China’s Space Station Are Doing Swimmingly, Confused as Hell (5 Jun)

Last month, China sent four small zebrafish as stowaways to its Tiangong space station.

And so far, according to the state-owned Xinhua News Agency, the striped catch is thriving in the microgravity environment of its celestial space aquarium. That’s despite the astronauts on board the station observing the fish “showing directional behavior anomalies, such as inverted swimming and rotary movement.”

In a video released by the China National Space Administration, the fish are swimming in all sorts of different directions inside a glass cube, seemingly struggling to tell which way is up. …

This is not the first time humans have had to entertain fish in space. In 1973, NASA launched two mummichog fish into space, alongside a container of 50 fish eggs, according to a 2016 Scientific America article, making them the first fish in space.

Upon arriving at the NASA Skylab space station, the fish “swam in elongated loops as though they were the spinning hands of a Salvador-Dali created clock,” the article reads. “Without gravity the fish didn’t know which way was up.”

Eventually, the fish oriented their backs to the lights inside the Skylab, using light as a way to direct themselves. And the hatchlings that came on board as eggs also used light to orient themselves.

Be fun to see what birds make of microgravity, but I suspect the experiment would be pretty inconvenient. Especially the effect of um, byproducts on sensitive instruments in the space station.

Meanwhile Elon’s ginormous rocket is scheduled for another attempt tonight, it looks like coverage starts about 9:30 pm AEST. I’m not sure of that timing, the launch is due sometime from about 7am Texas time.

Tom
Tom
June 6, 2024 1:50 pm

7am in Texas is 10pm AEST.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 6, 2024 2:13 pm
Reply to  Tom

Tom – Thanks! The coverage starts 30 minutes prior. Launch window is 2 hours though. The SpaceX page said 9:30pm, but I was on a NZ VPN server so I wasn’t sure whether it knew I’m an Aussie.

cohenite
June 6, 2024 1:55 pm

Amusing summary of the slut stormy conviction of Trump:

I have it on the authority of New York Times guest editorialist Norm Eisen that Trump’s 34 felony convictions concern “profoundly serious” crimes. But one point I’m still not clear on is how Trump was supposed to describe his payments to Stormy Daniels.

That is, after all, the heart of the case: Trump committed felonies by recording the payment to Daniels — made through his lawyer Michael Cohen — as a “legal expense,” thus creating a “false business record.”
How was he supposed to describe it?

— “Nuisance fee”?

— “Extortion payment”?

— “Cost of doing business for a celebrity”?

— “Legal settlement that’s a lot cheaper than having my lawyers run up gigantic bills suing Daniels for defamation”?

NO! The only answer liberals will accept is this:

“Hush money payment to a porn star who was threatening to claim we had sex — a claim as false as the Trump Tower doorman’s allegation I had an illegitimate child with an employee, which is so false that even the media admit it’s false — for the exclusive purpose of hiding the porn star’s (false) claim from the electorate, so that they would vote for me, even though they did vote for me, despite seeing a video one month before the election of me bragging about grabbing women ‘by the p*ssy.’ The Daniels allegation, however, I believe would have pushed them over the edge, so I used my own money to pay Daniels not to lie about me, much like the $30,000 that was paid to the lying doorman.”

If he’d said that, District Attorney Alvin Bragg would have been forced to say, BINGO! That’s exactly what I and The New York Times wanted you to write in your internal business records. Free to go, Mr. Trump.

Bear in mind this alleged book keeping misdescription is a STATE misdemeanour which was out of time. It was piggy backed to one main Federal felony which the state has no jurisdiction over: electoral interference; the other 2 alleged federal felonies which were only mentioned by merchan in his jury directions of tax avoidance and a worse book-keeping offence can be ignored. The electoral interference allegation was dismissed by the Federal Elections Commission (FEC) in 2021. The 9th Circuit Court, a superior court, to merchan’s kangaroo court also dismissed it in 2022 and awarded costs to Trump. Also bear in mind that the slut stormy had signed a Statutory Declaration in 2018 that she did not sleep with Trump making her testimony before merchan criminal perjury. Also note that cohen paid the slut stormy out of his own pocket and of his own volition and billed Trump not only for the $130k but another couple of hundred thousand and was paid per 34 invoices as per his retainer for the one account. Bear in mind merchan and his family were completely compromised by their history of political connections and merchan was legally obligated to recuse himself and that the lead prosecutor was not the fat back bastard but biden’s right hand man in the WH. Finally the jury was from a district which voted almost 100% for biden in the last election

Other than that it was a fair trial.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 6, 2024 2:32 pm
Reply to  cohenite

Daniels is trying to get out of the court awarded payment of one million smackaroos that she owes Trump.

It’s fun to watch her struggle.

Barry
Barry
June 6, 2024 2:09 pm

Headline: Highly contagious’ new STD on the rise as first case reported in US

Thinks – well that’ll be a homo disease.

Reads a couple of para’s in – Yep

an unidentified New Yorker who became infected with TMVII.

He’d presented with a rash on his penis, buttocks and limbs after visiting England, Greece and California.

He reported having sex with multiple men during his travels, none of whom disclosed similar skin issues

The new monkeypox mpox.

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Lysander
Lysander
June 6, 2024 2:13 pm
Reply to  Barry

Montypox?

Helen
Helen
June 6, 2024 3:36 pm
Reply to  Barry

The first case of a rare, sexually transmitted form of ringworm has been reported in the US, with experts warning it’s “highly contagious”.

Ring worm, huh? Appropriate.

johnjjj
johnjjj
June 6, 2024 6:14 pm
Reply to  Barry

whoda thought that anal …er… well you know, would introduce filth into the act. I suggest they all use a good splash of Dettol before, during and after.

Eyrie
Eyrie
June 6, 2024 2:14 pm

Be fun to see what birds make of microgravity, but I suspect the experiment would be pretty inconvenient.

Way back at the dawn of the Space Age it was decided to take a kitten on a zero G flight in a Lockheed T-33. As soon as the kitten was released as the T-33 was flying its parabola, it latched on to the nearest solid object it could find which was the pilot’s face.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 6, 2024 4:03 pm
Reply to  Eyrie

Those little kitten claws really hurt. Surely they could see that coming, poor little thing?

It’s major flanneries in Woolies top floor carpark in Double Bay right now. Hairy’s back to shopping here again after his principled stand from Australia Day to now. I am leaving him to it.

Eyrie
Eyrie
June 6, 2024 2:19 pm

I think BOM are pretty good* at forecasting weather that’s 4 to 6 days out. They are total crap at forecasting anything beyond that.

Because there is no known methodology to do that. Remember the bit about couple non linear chaotic systems. As for seasonal forecasts, might as well consult a gypsy fortune teller, or use chicken entrails or tea leaves.

Alamak!
June 6, 2024 2:38 pm
Reply to  Eyrie

… or use NASA rainfall data to predict at t-shirt size expected rainfall in next rainy season. Seen this approach used this in commodities trading to make money in softs.

Eyrie
Eyrie
June 6, 2024 2:22 pm

Be fun to see what birds make of microgravity
Plovers probably wouldn’t figure it out but I suspect crows and magpies would be on to it pretty quick.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 6, 2024 2:30 pm

Another day, another social media post on how the USS whatever served steak & lobster overnight.
These retards are posting this stuff almost daily.
Give it up, chumps.

Rosie
Rosie
June 6, 2024 3:13 pm
Crossie
Crossie
June 6, 2024 3:23 pm

Bungonia Bee

 June 6, 2024 12:46 pm

Minns is now apologising for the criminalising of homosexuality. 

First, was this part of their platform? Did they promise this apology during the election campaign? If they did there may have been some disagreement from their Islamic voters.

Second, Minns thinks he’s so clever offering the apology now so that it will be forgotten by the voters in Lakemba, Bankstown, Auburn etc by the next election. Wouldn’t it be a shame if somebody brought it up then to remind the excitable voters.

Third, I am so tired of the holier-than-thou apologising to anyone one for anything in my name, particularly when I and most other citizens had nothing to do with a supposed offence or insult.

Vicki
Vicki
June 6, 2024 3:26 pm

I really like the work of Jim Rickards. Here is his latest appraisal of the Ukraine debacle:

V. NATO Wants to Attack Inside Russia. If That Happens, All Bets Are Off.

As mentioned above, the steady path toward World War III continues. Here’s another example. US and NATO support for Ukraine in the war with Russia has been one long failure, but that has not stopped them from escalating the war with new weapons and tactics. Russia has met the escalation with its own escalation every step of the way.

At what point do rational leaders in the West (if there are any left) pause, consider that the war is lost in Ukraine, and begin to deescalate and seek a treaty to end the war? There’s no sign of that yet. In fact, all of the signs point to further escalation, which is a sure path to nuclear war.
The West supplied Ukraine with HIMARS precision guided artillery, but that failed because the Russians quickly learned how to jam the GPS guidance systems, so the missiles went off course.

The US and NATO supplied Ukraine with Abrams, Leopard and Challenger tanks and Bradley Fighting Vehicles that have been left burning on the battlefield. The Patriot anti-missiles systems cannot shoot down Russian hypersonic missiles and have been destroyed one-by-one at a cost of $1 billion each.

F-16s are the next wonder weapon promised. Those will be shot down by Russian S-400 anti-aircraft batteries. They are also old, obsolete models from NATO inventories that cannot be flown by Ukrainian pilots since they barely read English (the training manuals and maintenance manuals are all in English) and have not had enough time to train. It takes about two years to become a competent F-16 fighter pilot; the Ukrainians have barely had six months to learn.

What’s the next hare-brained scheme from NATO? The US and its allies are green-lighting missile attacks deep inside Russia using US-made ATACMS ballistic missiles with a range of up to 190 miles. These attacks will hit civilian targets such as the Russian city of Belgorod, or critical military targets such as the Russian nuclear missile radar warning arrays.
Both types of attacks will bring a severe Russian response, including the final destruction of the entire Ukrainian power grid. This plan is just another example of failed escalation by the US and NATO and moves the world one step closer to nuclear war.

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Rosie
Rosie
June 6, 2024 3:27 pm

Werribee zoo yesterday, huge numbers of what appeared to be Malaysian muslims, mostly dressed normally but with hijab, one full on black letter box and one younger women who was wearing what at first glance appeared to be a baby carrier but on second appeared to be device to disguise her female assets.
I know women wore those in isis controlled parts of Syria but not here.
I find them isolationist and intimidating.
As for dealing with muslims.
Do like France
Licence clerics, monitor mosques, inflammatory preaching gets dual citizens booted, and/or mosques closed down, no call to prayer, no use of public spaces for prayer mats, no religious symbols in public buildings, no full face covering in public, (surgical masks are no real substitute though they wear them for religious reasons).
Then.
No chain migration. Don’t allow immigration from countries that won’t accept refused migrants or convicted criminals back.
Cap welfare per household. Refuse welfare to second, third and fourth wives, especially when offspring continue to be produced.

Don’t listen when they call it islamophobia.

Megan
Megan
June 6, 2024 4:39 pm
Reply to  Rosie

Who, Rosie, who, in this country has the brains and courage to implement anything so sensible?

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 6, 2024 4:45 pm
Reply to  Rosie

What are they doing here? What benefit is there for Australia in.having them here?

Kneel
Kneel
June 6, 2024 3:34 pm

“…It was piggy backed to one main Federal felony which the state has no jurisdiction over: electoral interference”

Err, campaign finance violation I believe.
Which is crap, because for such a violation to happen, the state of mind of the one making the payment doesn’t matter – all that matters is that the payment could only ever be described as made to further the campaign. That is, if there is any other plausible reason that people have made such payments previously, then there is no campaign finance violation. This is what the former FEC chairman (who was in charge for a decade or more and is a known “expert” on such matters) was going to testify about for the defense – until the judge prevented defense from asking such questions of that witness.
Not only that, but there have been previous cases where the representative that paid such “hush money” from campaign finances, has been convicted of breaking the very same rules! (that is, paying someone to stay quiet is not solely a campaign expense, so you can’t use donations to pay for it)

Even the bookkeeping misdemeanor is a bit of an odd thing – the records themselves were not public, nor used by any other entity for any purpose whatsoever. Who was “misled” by something no-one else ever saw?
In any case, why did the prosecution rely on a single witness (a convicted perjurer at that), when they could have called Trump’s CFO, who allegedly was part of the “conspiracy”? That man, also a convicted felon BTW, could have been called by the prosecution and given immunity for anything that came up during his testimony, so he wouldn’t have to “take the 5th” on any questions – something that he would likely have to do if the defense had called him, because defense can’t make an immunity deal, only prosecution can.

The worst part of Merchan’s “pick a crime, any crime” instructions is the lack of specificity in the charge – how can the defense introduce evidence of reasonable doubt about guilt when they are not sure what the exact crime being alleged is? This would arguably be a civil rights violation under the US constitution, as many with significant legal experience have already expounded upon – for example, Megan Kelly, who was a trial lawyer for 10 years before becoming a journalist, or Jonathan Turley, a professor of law.

Lysander
Lysander
June 6, 2024 3:35 pm

Very large amount of Flannery, approaching the South West coast:

256 km Perth (Serpentine) Radar Loop (bom.gov.au)

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 6, 2024 4:10 pm
Reply to  Lysander

Hope it gets into the Wheatbelt!

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 6, 2024 3:42 pm

Almost think I’d rather have monkey pox than mutley pox. Second thoughts, how do you tell them apart. Only the depraved get them.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 6, 2024 3:45 pm
Reply to  GreyRanga

Cognitive impairment v standard anal STD

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 6, 2024 6:27 pm
Reply to  GreyRanga

GR:
I think a rectal probe (read Pineapple) may help in the diagnosis.

Eyrie
Eyrie
June 6, 2024 3:46 pm

A lot of folks seem to be angling for a World War. I wonder what they think the end state will be when hostilities cease?
You can’t get a substantial nuclear power to accept unconditional surrender. Do these people want a radioactive wasteland in Europe populated by semi naked cannibal savages? Where else?

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 6, 2024 6:29 pm
Reply to  Eyrie

I dunno, Eyrie, but there’s no winner when the radioactive dust settles.

John H.
John H.
June 6, 2024 3:47 pm

Vicki

 June 6, 2024 1:46 pm

 Reply to  John H.

Recently a drug has been designed to lower lpa.

John H, I know you do your own research but this one needs careful consideration. I have recently had a pretty long consultation with a prominent cardiologist who hadn’t read some of the latest research. He foolishly suggested I must be reading “Mr. Google” I then pulled out a dozen cardio articles from prestigious journals relating to some of these new drugs. He was astonished & had not seen some of them.

A couple of days ago I wrote that data analysis and statistics are fundamental to science. What is absolutely appalling, and drives me to think that there is much unconscious and conscious bias in play, is that the two most commonly prescribed drugs, statins and antidepressants, are plagued by statistical and analytical uncertainty regarding their efficacy. Study after study, huge numbers involved, so many meta-analyses, and still confusion reigns.

I don’t care what anyone thinks about these drugs because there are so many contradictory opinions and results that the most logical approach is to harken back to Jack Cohen’s famous paper, heed McCloskey’s advice, and perhaps as Nate Silver argues in The Signal and the Noise, to listen to those who argue frequentist statistics should be abandoned not because of fault but because so many doctors and biomedical scientists lack the training and skills to correctly use those tools. No, I don’t think Bayes will solve the problem. I don’t know what will solve the problem.

Now, back to this …

Why the US Lost the Tet Offensive Despite Beating the NVA (Vietnam War Documentary) (youtube.com)

Kneel
Kneel
June 6, 2024 3:49 pm

“Very large amount of Flannery…”

Ah yes, the dams will never fill again.
Waragamba currently 98%.
Napean current 100%.
Last few days in these parts have been rainy.
Soil is so damp we are seeing fogs already.

If it don’t stop raining, we’ll all be rooned – rooned I tells ya!
I mean, if it doesn’t start raining.
No, I mean if it doesn’t stop.
It’s climate extremes, that’s what it is!
Caused by humans, of course.
Because we aren’t the land of droughts and flooding rains or anything, right? No history of that, no sir!

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
June 6, 2024 3:50 pm

Nonetheless Rosie, it’s pretty inhumane to keep them in a zoo.

Chris
Chris
June 6, 2024 4:04 pm
Reply to  Wally Dali

If it were Greens politicians or Bad Penny Wrong, its better than they deserve.
But random Malaysians, no.

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Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 6, 2024 3:57 pm

Hezbollah claims to have hit Iron Dome battery

They’re about to get their wish to be martyrs.

Herzog: ‘World should not be surprised when Israel retaliates against Hezbollah’ (5 Jun)

Chief of Staff in north: ‘We’re approaching point where a decision needs to be made’ (4 Jun)

Lebanese report: Israel to declare war in the near future (4 Jun)

British sources believe Israel will attack Lebanon in mid-June, report says.

All that looks like they’ve already made a decision to obliterate the Hezbies, but are preparing the Israeli population for the declaration of war. I take it to mean the Gaza theatre is well enough under control that the IDF can now afford to fight on a second front.

This will explode the heads of Biden’s antisemitic handler kiddies. It will be interesting to watch the US Administration tie itself into knots.

(Sad for the Israelis who will give their lives for this, but Israelis understand that survival can only be bought with the blood of their servicemen and women.)

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Lysander
Lysander
June 6, 2024 4:01 pm

Well… after writing to Senator Payman, the ALP and various conservative commentators (who usually write back to me, but haven’t this time) I’ve now written directly to the AEC Commissioner asking if they saw the legal advice that “let” the dual citizen Payman stand for office, whether they will share it or not (with threat of FOI) and if they believe it would stand in the HC, where a literalist interpretation of S44 would have her sacked.

It’s not been since my mediatory sessions with TheirABC over Nil-Again’s writing of a book for personal gain on the taxpayer dime (on Pell) since I’ve ventured into such shenanigans. Then, I also did write to the President of the Senate to inform them that Senator Culleton was elected as a bankruptee… that caused a bit of a stir! 😛

(for the record: Rod is okay-ish but he did me no favours personally; and still owes farmers hundreds of thousands of dollars down Williams way)

cohenite
June 6, 2024 4:02 pm

Hunter will probably get off but it’s amusing that his laptop, previously designated as Russian misinformation by 50 security shitheads, is the main evidence against hunter. The laptop has explicit images of hunter smoking crack, clothed and otherwise while brandishing the pistol he bought after lying on the forms. It also has him fuking underage girls and prostitutes, both federal offences. It also has corroborative evidence of the old pervert’s business (sic) dealings with foreign companies and countries.

And Trump is felonised for ostensibly misdescribing a business record.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 6, 2024 6:35 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

I found it unwatchable with that twit bouncing his head around like a used car salesman’s puppet, and his constant looking down his nose at the camera while bunging on his mid upper class accent.
They just never got to the subject at hand and I gave up.

Vicki
Vicki
June 6, 2024 4:07 pm

Forgive me if I believe that this man – the historian Victor Davis Hanson is the finest, most incisive commentator on our world today. Also, forgive me if I have posted this analysis posted by him a few days ago. Read it and weep.

The Destructive Generation—Proving America’s Weakest Link

A single generation has broken apart the great chain of American civilizational continuance.

By Victor Davis Hanson

June 3, 2024

Governor Ronald Reagan, in his 1967 inaugural address, famously remarked, “Freedom is a fragile thing and it’s never more than one generation away from extinction.”
Reagan today might have expanded on his theme by declaring that civilization itself is both fragile and can lost by a generation that recklessly spends its inheritance while neither appreciating nor replenishing it—if not ridiculing those who sacrificed so much to provide it.
Such is the noxious epitaph of the Baby Boomer generation that is now passing after a half-century of preeminence and whose Jacobin agendas have nearly wrecked the nation they inherited.

In contrast to them, eighty years ago this week, the Allied powers of World War II—chiefly the United States, the United Kingdom, and Canada—landed on five Normandy beaches to begin what Gen. Dwight Eisenhower, supreme commander of the Allied expeditionary forces, would call the great “crusade” to liberate Western Europe from four years of brutal Nazi occupation.

The plan was to land within a few hours and in stormy weather well over 150,?000 Americans, British, and Canadians on the Atlantic Coast beaches of France, where they were to charge directly into the fire of tens of thousands of enemy troops. They were to charge uphill in the sand while being fired upon by entrenched German troops occupying the hills above. From there, the beachhead was to serve as the launching pad for two million more troops, who were to somehow drive eastward through France and into Germany to end the war and the devastation the Third Reich had inflicted on the world.

All that was accomplished in the ensuing 11 months. That can-do American generation assumed that impoverished teenagers emerging from the Great Depression, with equipment often inferior to their seasoned German enemies, would, over the ensuing months, surely prove able to route Waffen SS veterans. Many of them were hastily transferred from the murderous Eastern Front, such as the nihilist 2nd SS Panzer Division das Reich (“The Empire”). No matter, the Americans did the impossible in less than a year—from the Normandy beaches to well across the Rhine River.
That same generation went on to save South Korea, build an anti-totalitarian world order, defeat Soviet communism, and pass on to the Baby Boomer generation the strongest economy, military, and political system in history, or, to paraphrase the poet Horace, “monuments more lasting than bronze.” Or so we, the inheritors, thought.

And what are the now septuagenarian and octogenarian children of the veterans of Omaha Beach and Iwo Jima, leaving as their own legacy?
The self-infatuated and do-your-own-thing generation that gave us the Sixties and the counterculture has left the country $36 trillion in debt, now borrowing $1 trillion nearly every three months. Worse, there is not just no plan to balance budgets, much less to reduce the debt, but also no intention to stop or even worry about the borrowing of some $10 billion a day. 
The U.S. military is almost unrecognizable to that of just a few decades ago. It was humiliated in Kabul. In surrealistic fashion, it abandoned some $50 billion in lethal weaponry to the Taliban—along with our NATO allies, American contractors, and loyal Afghans. And our supreme command labeled that rout a brilliant retreat. Meanwhile, the military suffers from depleted inventory of key munitions while being short 45,000 annual recruits.

The Pentagon is torn by internal dissension over DEI, woke, anti-meritocratic promotions, and a politicized officer class—well, apart from now also being outmanned and outgunned by the Chinese. Many of the world’s key maritime corridors—the Red Sea, the Straits of Hormuz, the Black Sea, and the South China sea—are apparently beyond our navy’s ability to ensure the world safe transit.

For perceived cheap political advantage, the Baby Boomers destroyed the southern border, most recently allowing in nearly 10 million unaudited illegal aliens. With the disappearance of our national sovereignty, so too was lost the once-cherished idea of a melting pot of legal immigrants arriving in America longing to assimilate, to integrate in self-reliant fashion, and to show gratitude for the chance of something far better than what they left.

The country’s major cities are increasingly medieval, with a million homeless camped on fetid streets. Criminals terrorize the law-abiding. They assume their violence will be contextualized away by vacuous “critical legal” or “critical race” or “critical penal” theories. This generation releases violent felons to prey on the weak and sheds hardly a tear as police officers are shot unnoticed at the rate of nearly one a day.

America’s once great universities—such as Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, and MIT—are now into their fourth year of abolishing much of their prior standards. The youth who sought to wreck them from the outside in the 1960s now succeed in finishing the job as elders on the inside. These bankrupt campuses now adjudicate admissions and hiring by race, tribe and gender and then wonder why their students are entitled, ignorant, and arrogant yet unable to meet the very standards that the universities once insisted were critical to ensuring their preeminence.

Worse, the more elite the campuses, the more they became hotbeds of unapologetic anti-Semitism, gratuitous violence, and hatred for the country’s very institutions that guarantee their own freedom of action and speech. Who taught them and allowed them to think that as they illegally occupied buildings, defaced and defiled monuments, and shouted Jew hatred, they were absurdly entitled to free food deliveries and amnesties?

A rapacious higher education welcomed in profitable anti-American students and billions of dollars in hostile foreign cash from those who mock the laws of their host and feel a covetous America can be bought for 10 cents on the dollar. And as we learned after October 7, they were mostly correct.
Abroad, our nomenklatura opportunistically demonizes a democratic Israel trying to fight a terrorist Hamas that slaughtered 1,200 mostly unarmed citizens at a time of peace in the most grotesque fashion of the 21st century.
Yet our elite cannot distinguish killers from our democratic allies. Hamas deliberately drafted their own citizens to serve as shields to protect the terrorists safely ensconced in the tunnels below—on the sick assurance that Israel would surely try to avoid killing civilian shields whom the cynical Hamas apparat deliberately exposed to protect itself.

America hectors its most loyal ally in a way it does not its chief enemies, communist China and theocratic Iran. Not content with hiding its role in birthing the gain-in-function COVID-19 virus, now with impunity China helps kill 100,000 Americans a year through the export of fentanyl. It sends nearly 30,000 adult males into the US illegally. It relies on the espionage abilities of its students and visitors —and apparently exempt spy balloons—to ensure the People’s Liberation Army’s technological parity with the U.S.

But the greatest baleful legacy of this fading generation is the
weaponization of the government against its own perceived American citizen enemies. That bastardization of institutions extends now to the very destruction of the once-hallowed tradition of American jurisprudence.
The degeneration was not just that our government and its political ancillaries cooked up the Russian collusion hoax that warped the 2016 campaign and crippled a presidency—but that, to this day, its unapologetic architects remain smug that they pulled it off and would do it again.
Ditto the efforts of “intelligence authorities” to delude the American people about “Russian disinformation” and the Hunter Biden laptop. The Sixties generation’s new normal is to impeach a president twice, to try him as a private citizen, and to seek to remove him from state ballots.

All that was now characteristic of a generation that learned in the 1960s that if it did not get its way, it would wreck what it could not control. So, it was logical that it sought to pack the court, to end the filibuster, to destroy the Electoral College—and to corrupt the law to achieve political ends. Or as the Sixties generation taught us, “by any means necessary”—an arrogant affirmation of Machiavelli’s dictum that “the ends justify the means.”
Now we are left with a final toxic gift from this generation: the destruction of jurisprudence, a system designed not to easily protect the popular and admired but those often pilloried in the public square, the unorthodox, eccentric, and unliked.

Even Trump’s antagonists know that had Donald Trump been a man of the left, or had he not run again for president, he would never have been charged, much less convicted, of felonies or been punished with nearly a half-billion dollars in legal fees and fines.

We all accept that the charges brought against him by a vindictive and left-wing Letitia James, Alvin Bragg, Fani Willis and Jack Smith—all compromised by either past politicized prosecutorial failures or boasts of getting Trump—have never before been brought against any prior political figure or indeed any average citizen. They were instead invented to target a single political enemy. So what hallowed law, what constitutional norm, what ancient custom, or what Bill or Rights has the fading left not destroyed in order to erase Donald Trump from the political scene?

There is now no distinction between state and federal law. Once a prosecutor targets an enemy, he can flip back and forth between such statutes to find the necessary legal gimmick to destroy his target.
Statutes of limitations are no more as errant prosecutors and political operatives in the legislature can change laws to dredge up supposed crimes of years past, to destroy their political enemies, by employing veritable bills of attainder.

The very notion of an exculpatory hung jury depends on who is to be hung.
Judges can overtly contribute to the political opponents of the accused before them. Their children can profit in the tens of millions by selling to politicos their relationship to the very judge who holds the fate of their political opponents in his hands.
In sum, the First Amendment guaranteeing the right of the defendant to free speech is now not applicable. Asymmetrical gag orders are.

The Fourth Amendment is now torn to shreds by those who boast of “saving democracy.” When the FBI, on orders from a hostile administration, storms into the home of the leading presidential candidate and ex-president’s home, armed to the teeth, treats a civil dispute as a violent felony, and then doctors the evidence it finds, then constitutional insurance against “unreasonable searches and seizures” becomes a bitter joke for generations.

The Fifth Amendment’s protection that no person “shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law” has been destroyed when an ex-president cannot summon expert legal witnesses to testify on his behalf and when he cannot bring in evidence that contradicts his accusers. There is no due process when one ex-president is indicted for the very crimes his exempted successor has committed.

The Sixth Amendment’s various assurances are now kaput. No one believes that Trump was tried “by an impartial jury of the State”—not when prosecutors deliberately indicted him in a city where 85 percent of the population voted against him and are by design of a different political party.
No longer will an American have the innate right “to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor” when Donald Trump was never informed by prosecutor Alvin Bragg of the felony for which he was charged, with little advance idea of all the hostile prosecutorial witnesses to be called, and with no right to call in experts to refute the prosecution’s bizarre notion of campaign finance violations.

The Seventh Amendment is likewise now on the ash heap of history. The publicity-seeking judge Arthur Engoron, a political antagonist of Trump, warped the law in order to serve as judge, jury, and executioner of Trump’s fate, without recourse to a jury of even his biased New York peers.

The Eighth Amendment will offer assurance no longer to the American people that “excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.”

Donald Trump was fined $83.3 million in the E. Jean Carroll case for an alleged assault of three decades past, brought by partisan manipulative waving of the statute of limitations, with the politicized accuser having no idea of the year the assault took place, with her accusations arising only decades later when Trump became a political candidate, with her own employers insisting she was fired for reasons having nothing to do with Donald Trump, and with her narrative eerily matching a TV show plot rather than any provable facts of the case.

By what logic was Trump fined $175 million for supposedly inflated asset valuation to obtain a loan that was repaid with interest to banks that had no complaint? Since when does the state seek to inflict such “unusual” punishments for a crime that never before had existed and never will again henceforth?

In sum, our departing weak-link generation leaves us this final Parthian shot— that when a toxic ideology so alienates the people who are rising up to prevent its continuance, then the desperate architects of such disasters can dismantle the rule of law to destroy its critics.
And so, a single generation has broken apart the great chain of American civilizational continuance. But if this weak-leak generation thinks the evil that they wrought is their last word, they should remember the warning of a great historian:

“Indeed men too often take upon themselves in the prosecution of their revenge to set the example of doing away with those general laws to which all alike can look for salvation in adversity, instead of allowing them to subsist against the day of danger when their aid may be required.” – Thucydides 3.84.3

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Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
June 6, 2024 4:23 pm
Reply to  Vicki

He’s a good man, but broad-brush condemnation of baby boomers, many of whom are conservative and supportive of traditional values and the military rather than wokeism and lefty rubbish, just isn’t fair.

Zatara
Zatara
June 6, 2024 4:47 pm
Reply to  Bungonia Bee

In his defense, VDH was born in 1953, smack in the middle of what is considered the baby boomer generation (1946 – 1964).

While a blanket condemnation would indeed be unfair, it’s hard to dispute that some (many?) of that generation have lead the west to where we are now.

I’d also point out that the baby boomers didn’t get that way by themselves. They were taught/inspired by their elders.

Muddy
Muddy
June 6, 2024 5:20 pm
Reply to  Vicki

All that was now characteristic of a generation that learned in the 19670s that if it did not get its way, it would wreck what it could not control.

That is a very sound observation.

What is missing though, is the question ‘Who chose to defend when the attackers came?’ Who manned the gates when the barbarians attacked from within?

Certainly not conservatives.
Note that I write ‘conservatives’ rather than conservatism.

Yes, the wreckers can be fairly – and largely – blamed, but that blame is shared by those who failed to stand up and defend. Even now, six or seven decades later, who – aside from the odd individual – is standing to defend the near-ruins that remain?

No conflict involves one – and only one – participant.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 6, 2024 6:50 pm
Reply to  Vicki

Yeah.
We’re the worst.
Off to the camps with us because we didn’t defend that which wasn’t attacked. Ignore the fact we faced down a Communist Regime that had the weapons to irradiate the planet, but didn’t because we had spent the treasure of decades into making sure they didn’t.
Perhaps we should have ‘saved the West’ by nuking everything in sight and bragging while we beat our hairy chests.
Don’t worry about the Gross World Product that grew from $4,000 Billion in 1950 to $90,000 Billion in 2020*. That just fell out of the money tree.
Criticise all you want, you ungrateful bastards but don’t forget to demand ‘your share’ when we shuffle off in one of the greatest transfers of unearned wealth the planet has ever seen.
*I had to extrapolate a couple of figures. I’ll ask for penance while I get flogged for ruining the bloody planet, shall I?

Muddy
Muddy
June 6, 2024 10:02 pm
Reply to  Vicki

Simply pointing the finger at those directly responsible for the decline that Victor Davis Hanson writes about – commonly but inadequately described as ‘The Left’ – is unproductive. There is nothing we can do now about what others have already done, other than to bask in our self-righteousness, and stroke our fragile egos.

There is, however, something we CAN do, which is to ask ‘Have we (conservatives broadly) contributed to this situation?’ Could we have acted differently then, and if so, what do we need to change NOW?

The wealth (the rise in quality of life) Bob writes about as a Boomer creation is undeniable, but so is the present decline. The Cold War was won 30 years ago.

There is a difference between blame and responsibility.

Excess pride distorts perception.

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Zatara
Zatara
June 6, 2024 4:07 pm

Speaking of trusting the science:

Academic Publisher Retracts Over 11,300 Papers and Shuts 19 Journals As It Is Overwhelmed by Fraud
Of course there’s no chance that organizations with billions in funding would pump out their propaganda via fake papers in attempts to flood the market. That would be un-sciency.

Vicki
Vicki
June 6, 2024 4:13 pm
Reply to  Zatara

There are many dissidents in the medical and scientific global establishment who believe that many of the papers published in the most respected medical journals can no longer be considered to be independent. Most, they believe, are influenced by economic and career considerations.

Damn scary stuff. I firmly believe that critical thinking skills may be usefully employed across nearly every technical field. However, it is almost a lost art in the current world of scholarship.

John H.
John H.
June 6, 2024 5:38 pm
Reply to  Zatara

Academic publishing is a rip off. Thousands of dollars to get published, months waiting, rewrites, and low acceptance rates. The publishers have been thieving from scientists for decades. Some years ago mathematicians banned Elsevier journals because of costs. Libraries stop providing some journals to reduce costs. Sometimes the reviewers aren’t paid or paid so poorly they don’t put in the necessary effort.

Some of the best journals are published by professional bodies. They aren’t interested in mega profits or big headlines.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 6, 2024 4:09 pm

As a reserve soldier in the 1970s I saw some bad behaviour from fellow teenage diggers

As a reserve soldier in the 1970’s, female soldiers fell into two categories. “We can do anything you guys can do” and “We may not be able to carry such a heavy load such a long distance, but we will do our best.”

I only remember one incidence of bad behavior from the soldiery, and the offender copped a punch on the nose from one of the other diggers.

Chris
Chris
June 6, 2024 4:42 pm

Awesome. I wish we had the opportunity, but the offenders were charged and booted before we knew what had happened.

Megan
Megan
June 6, 2024 8:52 pm

I was a reservist then and amongst a pilot group of women who did dentical officer training to the blokes. 110 XY chromosomes and 40 XX started…45 men finished and 10 women. In the 2 year course never saw one single incidence of even vaguely bad behaviour in that time.
Mind you, the pressure to succeed was enormous and the training team (all XY to a man), made it perfectly clear that there was zero tolerance for misbehaving.

Maybe I just struck it lucky.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
June 6, 2024 4:19 pm

Labor and Greens have resisted exploration and extraction of onshore gas reserves for years, despite it being the only short-term firming option apart from coal.
Madeline King has just been interviewed by Tom Connell and has demonstrated either ignorance or blocking on this topic.
Is she competent to be Resources Minister? Or is she so ideologically bound to climate alarmism and green catastrophism that she will not answer truthfully any question about gas reserves?

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
June 6, 2024 4:30 pm

I am totally sick of pollies and journos in lockstep about scare questions regarding where nuclear power plants will go. In France they are quite close to villages with no issues. Here they could go where coal plants are being shut down. Small modular reactors will be easy to locate where they will not scare the punters, but Labor, Greens, Teals and the left generally (including a large percentage of the media) don’t want to be supportive.
Hence they are all assisting the demolition of our industries and thereafter our financial viability. Shame!!

Tom
Tom
June 6, 2024 4:38 pm

Hilarious watching Sky News lefty Tom Connell interviewing federal resources minister Madeleine King.

King regards Connell as a tribal enemy because he asks questions about Labor policy, whereas 90% of the news media regard Labor policy as a rightwing reactionary defence of the system that is not moving fast enough to dismantle free market capitalism.

King is embarrassed that Victoria’s communist state government has approved a new gas mining project in Bass Strait to stop the hippie electricity grid failing in the years ahead and is trying to spin it as a win for the inner-Melbourne seats where Greenfilth radicals are threatening to eliminate what’s left of Labor’s wafer-thin federal parliamentary majority.

Watch for clips of that interview tonight. Very entertaining.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 6, 2024 5:01 pm

Can you imagine if the same charges faced by D J Trump, the best President they’ve had in my opinion, had been brought to BillandKillary. All those involved in it would be dead by now.

calli
calli
June 6, 2024 5:38 pm

On the Hunter laptop, which has now proved to be entirely genuine and now the subject of legal proceedings…

I’m less interested in what happens to that sack of pus who the fawning media title “First Son” (yech) than in what happened to the poor techie who handed the thing in.

He was harassed, threatened, his business closed down and he had to move to another state. In short, his life as he had planned it, was ruined and he had to start again.

Muddy
Muddy
June 6, 2024 5:49 pm
Reply to  calli

He was an ‘outsider’ thus fair game. There’s a reason I use my analogy of ‘street’ gangs: Because it’s a war for territory. Politics is no longer the clash of words and ideas (if it ever was?).

Roger
Roger
June 6, 2024 6:09 pm
Reply to  Muddy

Politics is no longer the clash of words and ideas (if it ever was?).

It was once.

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 6, 2024 5:46 pm

Yes the current us establishment and demonrat party is more evil than I ever imagined

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 6, 2024 5:50 pm

Lode at 8:18.
And Biden’s D-Day ramblings would be reported in the NY Times as “Biden Debunks WW2 Myths”.

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
June 6, 2024 5:55 pm

Cohen, it’s not sufficient to simply bone Mizz Imam Grant- we should not suffer to live under-and pay for the operation of!- an “e-Safety Commission”, full stop.
Fire them all.
Shut it down.

Roger
Roger
June 6, 2024 5:58 pm

Well… after writing to Senator Payman, the ALP and various conservative commentators (who usually write back to me, but haven’t this time)..

Very interesting.

PS

That conservative commentators haven’t replied, that is.

Not to mention that the senator is your WA representative and would be bound by custom and good manners to at least acknowledge your correspondence.

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Crossie
Crossie
June 6, 2024 6:05 pm

Just saw a brief shot of Peter Costello having flattened journalist getting in his face. I wonder if it was a Channel Nine journo.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 6, 2024 6:57 pm
Reply to  Crossie

Liam Mendes, from “The Australian.”

Zippster
Zippster
June 6, 2024 6:09 pm
Zippster
Zippster
June 6, 2024 6:15 pm

Why Young Women Are More Woke

70% of young women are woke. Universal suffrage has failed

johnjjj
johnjjj
June 6, 2024 6:28 pm
Reply to  Zippster

It is the same reason they all have doe eyed, fluffy, stupid dogs. oooohhhh soooo cute.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 6, 2024 6:43 pm
Reply to  Zippster

Smartphones.

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MatrixTransform
June 6, 2024 6:24 pm

Dunning-Kruger is strong with this one

mUnty is clueless

has firm beliefs but zero scientifical knowledge or experience

his shtick here is more like a performance piece in Interpretive Wankery

cohenite
June 6, 2024 6:25 pm

Nine chairman Peter Costello refuses to answer questions, knocks journalist to the ground in Canberra Airport scuffle | Sky News Australia

Obviously after one for dad and one for mum that was the one for the nation.

But the costellos have form:

Nine Network journalist Seb Costello will fight two assault charges after a dispute involving a man and woman in Melbourne, a court has heard. Costello, son of Nine chairman Peter Costello, did not speak during the brief hearing.

Dad costello personifies the jellos who are conservatives. Nein is a bastion of woke, head up arse bullshit and this alleged conservative is the boss.

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