Open Thread – Mon 17 June 2024


A Blacksmith’s Shop, Joseph Wright, 1771

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Pogria
Pogria
June 17, 2024 3:48 am

oooh! Bingo!
Had to put more wood on the fire. It’s freezing here.
Stay warm everyone. 😀

Tom
Tom
June 17, 2024 4:00 am
damon
damon
June 17, 2024 1:26 pm
Reply to  Tom

Cruel but accurate.

Tom
Tom
June 17, 2024 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
June 17, 2024 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
June 17, 2024 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
June 17, 2024 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
June 17, 2024 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
June 17, 2024 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
June 17, 2024 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
June 17, 2024 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
June 17, 2024 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
June 17, 2024 4:08 am
Rosie
Rosie
June 17, 2024 4:24 am
Beertruk
June 17, 2024 7:50 am
Reply to  Rosie

Bloody hilarious!!! 😀
And on point.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 17, 2024 7:54 am
Reply to  Rosie

Heckling Seinfeld? Gutsy play.

Figures
Figures
June 17, 2024 8:56 am
Reply to  Rosie

Seinfeld was already the top 5 greatest comedies – but they just keep getting better now.

Rosie
Rosie
June 17, 2024 4:26 am
KevinM
KevinM
June 17, 2024 4:31 am

Captcha and robots eh?

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Rosie
Rosie
June 17, 2024 4:35 am
Muddy
Muddy
June 17, 2024 5:59 pm
Reply to  Rosie

One suspects that ‘famine’ has been redefined, for this special occasion only.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 17, 2024 4:57 am

If a GOP strategist said this, the legacy media would be promoting this non-stop.

Clinton Advisor Rips Female Democrats & Blames Them For Election Losses!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP-rZX80qMQ

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 17, 2024 5:15 am

Absoute banger!

Faithless – God Is a DJ (Live At Alexandra Palace 2005)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ltoAcZrjBw

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 17, 2024 5:27 am

I left the L out.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
June 17, 2024 5:35 am

Thanks Tom.

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 17, 2024 6:15 am

Aha from a small Greek island.

Bruce in WA
June 17, 2024 9:47 pm
Reply to  Top Ender

Don’t go for a walk; FGS, don’t go for a walk!!

The Bungonia Bee
The Bungonia Bee
June 17, 2024 6:51 am

The BBC has a segment called Witness History which deals with events past in a quick ten minute summary. Often interesting. I heard another similar program which raised some discordant notes in my mind. It was about the 1984 shoppies strike in Dublin, where checkout chicks refused to sell South African products in their store, and were suspended. They remained on strike for two years.
They became a cause célèbre, so much so that Desmond Tutu and even Mandela himself attributed them with helping to overturn apartheid. Mention was made of brutal SA police gunning down blacks back in the day.
When will the BBC do a similar program about the torture and murder of white SA farmers and their families in recent times. There is now a minority party in SA that has as one of its catch cries “kill the boer”. The country is falling apart under black rule. The BBC must be so proud of that.

will
will
June 17, 2024 7:16 am

Dilbert

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Bruce in WA
June 17, 2024 10:28 pm
Reply to  will

Once worked with a supervisor who timed everybody’s bathroom visits. More than 10 minutes a day and you got a face-to-face “please explain”.

Cassie of Sydney
June 17, 2024 7:29 am

Jerry Seinfeld and the pali heckler

Very nice to see.

One of the best comedy takes on ‘Israel/Palestine’ is Larry David’s take on Curb Your Enthusiasm, the……’Palestinian Chicken’ episode.

Soooo funny.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 17, 2024 7:35 am

This is what you can do as an Order of Australia recipient (the Hun):

Daniel Andrews is resisting a Supreme Court order to hand over his mobile phone records from the day of a near-fatal 2013 car crash with a teenage cyclist.

The Herald Sun can reveal the former Victorian premier – who last week received the highest award in the King’s Birthday Honours – has ­engaged high-profile lawyer Leon Zwier to fight the order.

Lawyers for Ryan Meuleman, who was 15 when he was struck by the Andrews’ family SUV in Blairgowrie, are seeking to establish who Mr Andrews spoke to – and when – amid concerns of interference in the collision’s aftermath.

And:

Victoria Police Assistant Commissioner Brett Curran, Mr Andrews’ chief of staff at the time of the incident, has declined to clarify if he received a call from the then-opposition leader from the crash scene.

‘I’ll let somebody else ring the ambos – I need to get my story straight so I’ll ring my copper chief of staff who I will promote if I slide out from under this.’

Dr (Ray) Shuey (ex high-up traffic jack), now an expert witness for the Meuleman family, asked: “What happened in those four missing minutes between the crash and Andrews’ call?”

In sworn statements to police, Mr Andrews and his wife Catherine, who was the driver, said he had “immediately” called triple-0 for an ambulance.

Mr Meuleman said: “A neighbour called the moment she heard the crash. So what was Andrews waiting for? What the hell was he doing in those four minutes?”

Getting his story straight and organising the cover-up, that’s what.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 17, 2024 8:41 am

You get the feeling this is a slow burn for the Stairman.

Perfidious Albino
Perfidious Albino
June 17, 2024 8:54 am

Let’s hope justice prevails and we get to see exactly where all the downstream tentacles from this incident travelled. That same high profile lawyer again too.

alwaysright
alwaysright
June 17, 2024 9:34 am

Justice prevailing? In Viktoristan?

Comedy post of the day!

flyingduk
flyingduk
June 17, 2024 9:36 am

I spent 2 years doing onsite investigations of fatal accident scenes with Adelaide Uni. Having seen the crash pictures, it is 100% obvious that Dans car struck the cyclist with its front (hence the damage to the windscreen) … the cycle did NOT run into the side of Dans car.

Beertruk
June 17, 2024 7:42 am

Today’s Paywallion:

Look out! The environment is low on the modern Greens agenda

Nick Cater
17 Jun 2024
 
We begin with an update on Germany’s transition from an economic powerhouse to a zero-emissions, zero-nuclear, zero-industrial dystopia.

Germany’s emissions last year fell by 10 per cent. Renewable energy enthusiasts may interpret this as vindication, thinking their plan to reduce emissions while phasing out nuclear power is back on track. Context matters, however. Over the past five years, Germany’s emissions fell 8.5 per cent while heavy industrial production fell 8.4 per cent in the same period. Coincidence? Probably not.

The exorbitant cost of electricity and natural gas has led to cuts in industrial production and employment with no net decline in global emissions. Shutting down caprolactam production at BASF’s Ludwigshafen plant last year, for example, transferred emissions and jobs to BASF’s plants in São Paulo and Shanghai.

Last weekend, German voters sought revenge on the politicians responsible for this gross policy incompetence in European parliamentary elections. The Greens’ share of the vote in Germany fell from 20.5 per cent in 2019 to 11.9 per cent. Similar declines in France and other Western European countries reduced the Greens’ contingent in the European parliament from 71 to 52 MEPs.

The declining support for environmentalist parties prompts a beguiling thought: Half a century after peak oil, has Europe reached peak Greens? Their fading electoral fortunes in Germany, in particular, has caused an outbreak of self-doubt, a mental state to which the Greens once seemed immune.

Robert Habeck, a leading German Green who was foolishly assigned Minister for Economic Affairs and Climate Action, told The Guardian his party needed to ditch its alarmist instincts and moral superiority complex. It has to abandon its “claim to have access to some higher form of truth that others don’t”, and transition to something with a broader political appeal.
Anxiety about global warming has been subsumed by a change in the climate of debate. Covid, the war in Ukraine, the ensuing surge in energy prices, the economic slowdown and rising interest rates have shifted the agenda on to jobs and the cost of living, reducing the demand for luxury beliefs.

The European Green Party’s secretary-general, Benedetta De Marte, concedes the 2019 European election was the high-water mark for the Greens. There was a “drive towards climate action in a society that unfortunately we don’t see any more”, she told Euronews.

Some in the movement now regret the decision to become coalition partners in government. It denied them the indulgence of being high-minded critics and forced them to make trade-offs.

A consistent pattern has emerged: the Green vote suffered worst in countries where the Greens have been in power. In an opinion piece in the European Green Journal last month, Filipe Henriques pondered whether being in government was all it was cracked up to be. “Is it wise for Greens to enter government and push for reform, even if it means compromising their values?” he asked. “Or is it better to remain in opposition, at the risk of having no role in crucial political decisions?”

It is not just the loss of votes that worries the Greens but who is walking away. The Greens were at the forefront of the campaign to reduce the voting age to 16 in Germany, Austria and Belgium. The ungrateful teenage voters slapped the left in the face last weekend when a significant proportion opted for conservative nationalist parties such as Alternative for Deutschland.

It would be nice to think the Greens will gradually chin-stroke their way to irrelevancy as the Australian Democrats did in Australia. Yet there is every reason to believe the Green movement will survive the declining interest in climate change and find new vehicles to project their moral virtue.

Indeed, this is already happening. It was noticeable that the German Greens campaigned hardly at all on the climate scare and instead contrived a scary story about the threat of a resurgence of fascism. It has been illegal to display the swastika in public since the mid-1970s, but the Greens did it anyway, hanging posters from lamp posts to raise the spectre of the imminent return of Nazism.

The movement has found a temporary distraction in the Middle East, throwing itself behind the Palestinian cause. Its followers attempt to legitimise the move as part of a more extensive campaign to change social structures that perpetuate the climate crisis. The adoption of the term “climate justice” has granted the movement licence to hitch a ride on transient campaigns from transgender rights and Black Lives Matter to decriminalising drugs and sub-Saharan feminism.

However, none of these causes has the mass appeal needed to keep the movement in the headlines. They are mere skirmishes as the movement prepares to launch an assault on the next big front: constitutional animal rights.

In a portent of the shift in direction last week, Jonathan Yeo’s new portrait of King Charles on display in London was defaced not by Extinction Rebellion but by members of a group called Animals Rising. Its rhetoric goes beyond the conventional calls for humane treatment to grant non-human species full legal rights. Its intellectual foundation is an academic movement known as The Animal Turn, which makes a qualitative leap to view animals as sentient beings whose lived experiences are morally, socially, politically and even legally significant.

Activists are testing the waters for compulsory veganism on campuses with campaigns to restrict the sale of food in university canteens to 100 per cent plant-based products. All of this is evidence the Green franchise is far from exhausted. The sense of entitlement that encourages the anointed to impose their vision on the rest of us remains, together with the linguistic dexterity that enables them to turn eccentric academic arguments into mainstream moral crusades.

Nick Cater is a senior fellow at the Menzies Research Centre and a visiting fellow at the Danube Institute.

NICK CATER 
 COLUMNIST

FFs…the ride against the stupid never ends :

They are mere skirmishes as the movement prepares to launch an assault on the next big front: constitutional animal rights.

Activists are testing the waters for compulsory veganism on campuses with campaigns to restrict the sale of food in university canteens to 100 per cent plant-based products.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
June 17, 2024 7:51 am

The Labor/Green/Teal spokespersons known as The ABC assure us that “experts” say the coalition’s plans to build nuclear power stations are impossible.
Tell that to China. “As of February 2023, China has 55 plants with 57GW in operation, 22 under construction with 24 GW and more than 70 planned with 88GW.”
And via Bloomberg: “The Chinese nuclear project construction record reveals a few interesting insights. Since the start of 2022, China has completed an additional five domestic reactor builds, with their completion times ranging from just under five years to just over 7 years.”

Plus: “China is able to build reactors at a fraction of the cost of places like France and the US, according to BloombergNEF. That’s in part thanks to low lending rates from supportive state-owned banks. It’s also because of smart construction strategies.”

But blackouts Bowen and all the green left (Labor/Greens/Teals) have said we can’t do nuclear. So they’ll continue on their merry way to bankrupting Australia more surely than by NDIS alone. The climate scam has been nurtured for the purpose of sinking the West.

Might as well just refurbish/rebuild the coal plants then.
 

billie
billie
June 17, 2024 10:51 am
Reply to  Bungonia Bee

LGTBC….?

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 17, 2024 8:03 am

Absolute filth.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 17, 2024 8:04 am

From the Nick Cater column.

Activists are testing the waters for compulsory veganism on campuses with campaigns to restrict the sale of food in university canteens to 100 per cent plant-based products.

Do it! Advance the effective end of universities by decades. Then return most training to technical schools and apprenticeships.

Crossie
Crossie
June 17, 2024 8:24 am
Reply to  Boambee John

How will they stop students bringing in their salami sandwiches? Will there be inspections at entrances to the campus?

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 17, 2024 9:50 am
Reply to  Crossie

The Slime are fascist enough to at least try that on.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 17, 2024 10:06 am
Reply to  Crossie

Yes.
There will be sniffer dogs. Labradors.
They can detect a single slice of salami in a truck load of vegetables, just by smell.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 17, 2024 8:07 am

Former SAS soldier caught in visa confusion
By paul garvey

A decorated SAS veteran and his family are in limbo after the Department of Home Affairs refused to grant his Thai-born wife a visa.
The soldier – who was awarded the nation’s second-highest military honour, the Medal for Gallantry, for his conduct in the Afghanistan War – has been living in Thailand for eight years while he works as a FIFO security contractor in the resources sector.
He has had to return to Australia for treatment for his declining mental health, but Home Affairs refused to give his wife a partner visa because the soldier was unable to secure criminal clearances from some of the countries he had worked in.
While the couple and their two Australian citizen children have been based in Thailand for eight years, his work has taken him around the world and he was unable to source the required paperwork from Iraq, Papua New Guinea, Ghana and Nigeria.
A briefing note prepared by RSL Victoria spells out the family’s frustrations with the conduct of the department, and what appears to be an error in the way the application was assessed. The former soldier has been working to secure the partner visa since September 2021, but has now been told to restart the application process from scratch. It means his wife is unlikely to secure a visa before 2027 at the earliest.
He was formally notified late last year that his wife’s application had been refused due to the lack of police clearances, triggering a 21-day window for an appeal to the Administrative Appeals Tribunal. According to the RSL note, the man’s health had worsened during that period and he was unable to lodge a response in time.
The RSL briefing note details how the police clearance certificate request is not mandatory, while it says there are provisions in the regulations for Immigration Minister Andrew Giles to exercise ministerial discretion and approve a sponsor if there are compelling circumstances.
“This discretion extends to permit the minister to approve sponsorship of people with significant criminal histories,” the RSL Victoria note says. “It would be outrageous if such a discretion was not exercised to support and assist an Australian war hero with no criminal history.”
Before the application was formally rejected, the soldier had provided Home Affairs with a letter from a psychiatrist specialising in veterans’ healthcare describing how his poor mental health – stemming from his war service – hampered his capacity to negotiate the visa process.
“(The soldier) is a man who has given his country everything he has, at very great personal expense, and now finds himself held at a distance from this country,” the psychiatrist wrote.
“(He) is an exceptional individual in his commitment to our country and in his capacity as an Australian citizen. I would ask that his exceptional situation be considered in the processing of his applications.”
The RSL note argues the department erred in the scope of the police clearance request. While the regulations provide for the minister to seek clearances from countries where the sponsor or spouse has lived for at least 12 months, the department sought the paperwork from nations where the man had worked only temporarily.

Crossie
Crossie
June 17, 2024 8:28 am

Yet we are bringing in hundreds of thousands of who migrants from who knows where and even terrorists from Gaza. Firing everyone in the Immigration Department would certainly improve things.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 17, 2024 11:14 am
Reply to  Crossie

The Immigration Department is staffed by the people who have negotiated the immigration process and there are now very few Australian born/cultural background employees left.
Welcome to the Dictatorship of the Bureaucracy!

Beertruk
June 17, 2024 8:42 am

And yet idiot Giles can release illegal immigrant rapists into the community from gaol and yet an Australian citizen and his family are put through the ringer…again.

Zatara
Zatara
June 17, 2024 8:47 am

And they wonder why nobody wants to sign up to serve anymore.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 17, 2024 9:53 am

And hundreds, if not by now thousands, of Pally potential terrorists and murderers are coming in on a nod from Benny Wrong and NO clearance certificates.

Pogria
Pogria
June 17, 2024 8:21 am

Digger, if you are reading the Cat this morning, here’s a link you may enjoy/ empathise with/ snort and chuckle.
I love my job, I love my job, I love my job. 😀

https://x.com/Judianna/status/1801374301951545586

Eyrie
Eyrie
June 17, 2024 8:28 am

From the weekend OT

Not really, CH3OH, the simplest alcohol.

hmmm…flash-point baby
methanol 9 °C, 
diesel fuels 50 to 100 °C

Bunker No 2 would be higher.
Try Avgas (ordinary petrol similar) flash point Minus 43 deg C yet small aircraft generally do not spontaneously catch fire.
It isn’t all that difficult to inert the fuel tanks with nitrogen in the ullage space in a large ship.

MatrixTransform
June 17, 2024 10:50 am
Reply to  Eyrie

what evvs … I was only guessing

I dont even know what Bunker No 2 is

… googling

Crossie
Crossie
June 17, 2024 8:30 am

China. “As of February 2023, China has 55 plants with 57GW in operation, 22 under construction with 24 GW and more than 70 planned with 88GW.”

Within a few years China will not need our coal. Where then will Blackout Bowen find the money to shower on the renewables carpetbaggers?

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 17, 2024 11:20 am
Reply to  Crossie

He doesn’t give a shit because he will be retired on a Parliamentary Pension and several windfalls from his Chinese friends.

Eyrie
Eyrie
June 17, 2024 8:30 am

Activists are testing the waters for compulsory veganism on campuses with campaigns to restrict the sale of food in university canteens to 100 per cent plant-based products.

The Maccas, KFCs and Burger Kings etc around the campuses will do well.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 17, 2024 8:49 am
Reply to  Eyrie

Even student poverty (a relative concept at UWA. If you were genuinely poor you went to Curtin) couldn’t get students to make their lunch. Tofu hotdogs might though.

Zatara
Zatara
June 17, 2024 8:34 am

The March of Dimes Syndrome

Why have activists declared a “national state of emergency” for LGBT people? Why was the election of the first black president followed by the Black Lives Matter movement? Why, as radical prejudice declined, was there a rise in the number of “hate groups”? Why, as sexual violence declined in America, did academics and the #MeToo movement discover an “epidemic of sexual assault”?

The better things get, the more desperately activists struggle to stay in business.

For career activists, success is a threat. They can never declare mission accomplished.

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 17, 2024 8:39 am

That Blairgowrie disgrace just stinks to high heaven. Despicable.

Indolent
Indolent
June 17, 2024 8:46 am

@RepClayHiggins

I will not support one dime of funding for the ATF until constitutional policy is fully restored. Please wake up America, We the People are living in a police state. These Federal agencies DOJ/FBI/ATF are WAY OUT OF CONTROL. This American had a perfect record, he was squared away for his whole life. ATF had warrants for alleged regulatory paperwork violations, easy stuff they could have handled 100% peacefully, instead they hit his home heavy and hard pre-dawn like he was MS13, so the man wakes up and freaks out and in those wild seconds begins to defend his family from the violent home-invasion and he promptly gets shot in the head.

Unbelievable. Abhorrent.

Beertruk
June 17, 2024 8:50 am

The Maccas, KFCs and Burger Kings etc around the campuses will do well.

A licence to print money.

Eyrie
Eyrie
June 17, 2024 8:56 am

The Maccas, KFCs and Burger Kings etc around the campuses will do well.
A licence to print money.
On further thought, If I owned any of those outlets, I’d donate money anonymously to the vegan campus people

Indolent
Indolent
June 17, 2024 8:56 am
BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 17, 2024 11:31 am
Reply to  Indolent

So if GB decides to block all migration routes, and sends them back to wherever they came from – France, Germany, Uganda, Afghanistan etc, who will the EU use to enforce their diktat? French and German troops? IIRC, the last time the Luftwaffe tried to enforce its will on England it didn’t work out so well.

Beertruk
June 17, 2024 8:56 am

‘…LGBT people?’

I think the ‘T’ in ‘LGBT’ stands for :

Totalitarianism

or

Toilet intruder/s.

Last edited 6 months ago by Beertruk
Zippster
Zippster
June 17, 2024 9:43 am
Reply to  Beertruk

Turds

billie
billie
June 17, 2024 4:11 pm
Reply to  Beertruk

Teals

Eyrie
Eyrie
June 17, 2024 8:57 am

I will not support one dime of funding for the ATF until constitutional policy is fully restored. Please wake up America, We the People are living in a police state. These Federal agencies DOJ/FBI/ATF are WAY OUT OF CONTROL. This American had a perfect record, he was squared away for his whole life. ATF had warrants for alleged regulatory paperwork violations, easy stuff they could have handled 100% peacefully, instead they hit his home heavy and hard pre-dawn like he was MS13, so the man wakes up and freaks out and in those wild seconds begins to defend his family from the violent home-invasion and he promptly gets shot in the head.

?When you accept that governments and their minions are merely criminal gangs this all makes sense.

Zippster
Zippster
June 17, 2024 9:43 am
Reply to  Eyrie

The “deep state” is a parasite class

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 17, 2024 9:01 am

On Sunday, the Zionist Federation of Australia, supported by the Executive Council of Australian Jewry, wrote to the government calling for Hizb ut-Tahrir – the international Islamist organisation currently mainstreaming antisemitism in Australia – to be proscribed as a terrorist organisation.

The letter, sent to the Prime Minister, the Attorney-General, Mark Dreyfus, and Home Affairs Minister Clare O’Neil, said HUT had “built a hate ­machine”.

“It is glorifying terrorism, radicalising Australians, and covertly using front organisations to mainstream its extremism,” the pair wrote. “For Hizb ut-Tahrir to have so much as a foothold in Australia is dangerous. Especially given that it is banned in Germany and proscribed as a terrorist organisation in the UK.”

Not an unreasonable suggestion, then.

He also suggested such a legislative scheme would open up a range of law-enforcement powers, saying Hizb ut-Tahrir had frequently been “anti-Semitic, misogynist, homophobic, transphobic, and anti-Western”.

So, even if a bit of light antisemitism is OK, HUT is guilty of all the really big ones.

“In its hatred of democracy, Jews and all non-believers, Hizb ut-Tahrir is a threat to us all,” it read, alleging its ideology was a “gateway to terrorism”.

Which achieved a response that Bismarck himself would have been proud of:

A spokesman for the attorney-general said the government condemned the group’s “hateful comments” and that those had “no place in Australia”.

It appears that these pesky Jews have completely misinterpreted what “a threat to us all” actually means.

[Unlinkable OZ]

Crossie
Crossie
June 17, 2024 9:49 am
Reply to  Dr Faustus

Well there you go, a statement that nobody else will see, certainly not their Muslim voters in vital Labor electorates. Actions are for losers, as in election losers.

Roger
Roger
June 17, 2024 10:05 am
Reply to  Dr Faustus

A spokesman for the attorney-general said the government condemned the group’s “hateful comments” and that those had “no place in Australia”.

What…no mention of motherhood and meat pie?

132andBush
132andBush
June 17, 2024 9:02 am

FFs…the ride against the stupid never ends :

They are mere skirmishes as the movement prepares to launch an assault on the next big front: constitutional animal rights.

Activists are testing the waters for compulsory veganism on campuses with campaigns to restrict the sale of food in university canteens to 100 per cent plant-based products.

The other prong to be used (already is) will be banning the use of one chemical after another. Glyphosate, Haloxyfop (canola) etc, alternative chemistries will then come under the banning spotlight. All designed to make food production harder.

It’s all about less humans on the planet, with those remaining living strictly regulated lives.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 17, 2024 9:04 am

EMT and Alan Dershowitz’s book “The Case for Peace – How the Arab Israeli conflict can be resolved. ”

Dershowitz devotes a chapter to the University academics in Europe and the United States who consider themselves more Palestinian then the Palestinians…

Indolent
Indolent
June 17, 2024 9:07 am
BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 17, 2024 11:35 am
Reply to  Indolent

The steady drumbeat to war continues.
So many similarities to pre WW1.

Indolent
Indolent
June 17, 2024 9:08 am
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Zatara
Zatara
June 17, 2024 9:33 am
Reply to  Indolent

If so it will be interesting to see how they plan to get around the state deadlines for filing.

There is no formal, national deadline to file to run for president of the United States. Instead, candidates must meet a variety of state-specific filing requirements and deadlines to appear on each state’s election ballot.

The last of those deadlines passed on 03/24/24.

Could the Dem elites at the convention try to force one through? Sure. But how is that going to play with the states? The Dem party bribing Bernie to step out of the race is still a fresh scar in the memories of many Dem voters.

132andBush
132andBush
June 17, 2024 12:35 pm
Reply to  Zatara

Would the section of the constitution dealing with a president being medically unfit come into play?
Short term – Kamala takes over but won’t be running for pres.
Then they shoehorn in another candidate to run.

All they need do is make it look like they’re shutting the border, put a stopper on some of the DEI and transing children BS.
They’ve already managed a gaslighting of enormous proportions wrt the law by getting Bunter convicted, (we’ve all seen it), “see, the law applies evenly to everyone”, thereby legitimising what they did to Trump.

Enough brain dead people will fall for this shit, mark my words.
Why?
Because Trump, that’s why.
Like I’ve said before, I hope the fanboyz have got a plan B. And I hope I’m wrong.

Zatara
Zatara
June 17, 2024 1:47 pm
Reply to  132andBush

Would the section of the constitution dealing with a president being medically unfit come into play?

Well, the Dem party isn’t a monolith. In effect we are talking about a coup within the party because Biden and his faction aren’t going to let go of power without a fight. So is the anti-Biden faction large enough and organized enough to pull off a secret campaign to zap him with the 25th amendment (fitness) at the last minute?

Again, just dumping him isn’t enough and they don’t want to be left with the utterly unelectable Kamal in his place so they have to have done a heap of groundwork down to the state party level to shoehorn someone else in. Again all in secret.

Attempting it and failing to unseat Biden would very likely be fatal to the Dems in the election (and long term for that matter). They got away with the Bernie stunt but that left a really bad taste in many of their mouths. Another massively shady deal by the Dem party isn’t going to go unnoticed by the voters.

132andBush
132andBush
June 17, 2024 2:52 pm
Reply to  Zatara

Here’s hoping they stuff it up.
Like I said the other day, Biden will short circuit in full view of the world, I mean all they have to do is stop the meds, and it’s fait accompli.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 17, 2024 4:17 pm
Reply to  132andBush

Yep – he’s a mean and nasty bastard – it will most likely be a punch up with a reporter who decides he or she (!) wants to press his buttons.

Zatara
Zatara
June 17, 2024 6:22 pm
Reply to  132andBush

Yep, and there isn’t going to be a whole lot of sympathy for the Dems when Biden finally strips his last gear.

If they can’t keep their zombie juiced up enough to make it to election day too bad. They have been telling the world for years to ignore what we see and hear, he’s fit!

Except of course when the special counsel needed an excuse not to charge him for the classified documents in his garage. Then he is a “sympathetic, well meaning, elderly man with a poor memory” and thus supposedly couldn’t be convicted, but could still run the country.

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Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 17, 2024 9:17 am

Excellent.

Federal Coalition vows to scrap NSW offshore wind farm (Tele, paywalled)

A controversial offshore wind farm development along the NSW south coast will be scrapped by the federal Coalition if it wins the next election, amid local outrage over the project.

Meanwhile the nuclear policy discussion, far from making Dutton unpopular has done exactly the opposite.

Peter Dutton overtakes Anthony Albanese as Australia’s preferred prime minister while Labor’s primary vote dips, new poll reveals (Sky News, 17 Jun)

The Resolve Strategic poll, conducted for the Sydney Morning Herald, showed 36 per cent of voters placed Mr Dutton as preferred prime minister over Mr Albanese who scored 35 per cent.

The results mark a five percentage point drop in support for Mr Albanese as preferred leader and two percentage point rise for Mr Dutton since the last Resolve Political Monitor poll.

The voters seem to be wising up to Labor’s lies. Maybe their electricity bill has something to do with that.

Crossie
Crossie
June 17, 2024 9:55 am

Meanwhile the nuclear policy discussion, far from making Dutton unpopular has done exactly the opposite.

The voters seem to be wising up to Labor’s lies. Maybe their electricity bill has something to do with that.

An empty wallet and an empty bank account do concentrate the mind. People are more maths savvy than any Labor, Greens or Teal politicians.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 17, 2024 10:45 am
Reply to  Crossie

People are more maths savvy than any Labor, Greens or Teal politicians.

There’s probably nothing that highlights Canbra Bubble Think more than cost of living.

Over the past three years, inflation in the areas that consume most of the average Australian’s income – food staples, energy, cost of accommodation, and clothing – has run double digits.

Quite the issue when you are living off your last pay and any unexpected bill is a drama.

Less of an issue when you are on $225,000 basic, plus committee sweeties, plus expenses, plus subsidised food, drink, and housing.

Enough public padding there for your elected bien pensant to explore luxury issues on your behalf.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 17, 2024 11:24 am
Reply to  Dr Faustus

Exactly. I’m not sure this Liars to be returned in minority government is a done deal quite yet. Maths does not favour the Lieborals.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 17, 2024 9:40 am
BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 17, 2024 9:43 am

Didn’t we have that picture before, DB?
Or was it just similar?

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 17, 2024 11:42 am
Reply to  dover0beach

Of course – now I remember the kiddies in the workshop with no H&WS Officer present.

Roger
Roger
June 17, 2024 9:57 am

Peter Dutton overtakes Anthony Albanese as Australia’s preferred prime minister while Labor’s primary vote dips, new poll reveals (Sky News, 17 Jun)

Heaven help us…the Australian electorate has gone “far right”!

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 17, 2024 11:53 am
Reply to  Roger

I must refurbish the German M35 helmet I used to use as an ashtray, for the new regime.
Although I should cover the SS runes on the side. Someone will object, I think.

Figures
Figures
June 17, 2024 10:08 am

I suspect that it is only downhill from here for Albo Bruce.

Make Helicopters Great Again!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 17, 2024 10:17 am

Any Cats heard anything about a class action in South Australia – a group of the indigenous are claiming their ancestors served in the Boer War, the First and Second World Wars, alongside non – indigenous Australians – the others received cash, houses and land, and all the indigenous received was a return to their status under the “Flora and Fauna Act?”

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 17, 2024 10:56 am

If so, the evidence presented by the defence, if done at all honestly, will make uncomfortable reading for the plaintiffs.

And the plaintiffs’ legal advisors will be exposed as grasping charlatans.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 17, 2024 11:53 am
Reply to  Boambee John

I’m sorry, I just don’t understand how anyone can bring a lawsuit, claiming the existence of a piece of thoroughly discredited nonsense, such as the “Flora and Fauna Act?”

132andBush
132andBush
June 17, 2024 2:58 pm

Perhaps they should read Maters’ excellent series of posts a while back which hit this subject square on the head.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 17, 2024 10:22 am

Gonna need a lot more pink paint…

Arts Schools Offered “Plus-Size Inclusivity Training” to Tackle “Fatphobia (16 Jun)

The chairs that life models sit on may need strengthening.

Roger
Roger
June 17, 2024 10:30 am

Heaven help us…the Australian electorate has gone “far right”!

Speaking of which, The Age has today labelled Narendra Modi “far right.”

What, in the context of Indian politics, makes Modi a Hindu Hitler?

Presumably his policies aimed at curbing Muslim immigration, which is about the only domestic policy he shares with Le Pen, Meloni, Wilders, Orban, et. al.

The prog-left establishment cannot abide that sovereign countries should have sovereign borders. Until the problems end up on their doorsteps, that is.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 17, 2024 10:40 am
Reply to  Roger

a Hindu Hitler

Chandra Bose was in the lefty Congress Party along with Gandhi and Nehru.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 17, 2024 10:33 am

I’m getting some big trees over 20m tall, down at the moment. 3 guys, you could call semi skilled but you’d be wrong. These guys all young don’t talk to each other, they know what their job is and can do it without talking to each other. I have camellias, maples, magnolias plus other assorted shrubs underneath. Hardly any of the branches have come anywhere near damaging them and most are winched straight across to the chipper without touching the ground. There are so many trees on the coast, having a tree business is a licence to print money.

Pogria
Pogria
June 17, 2024 11:02 am
Reply to  GreyRanga

Ranga,
I had a dozen huge conifers taken down a year ago. The guys were a joy to watch. No broken fences, no unnecessary mucking about. Same as yours, limbs straight into the chipper.

One of the great joys in life is watching professional tree loppers at work.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 17, 2024 11:37 am
Reply to  Pogria

Must be an East Coast thing. Next door strata unit had a 20yo Chinese Tallow (planted by me) done where it had been growing without incident. Removed about half a dozen branches including all lower ones that could be reached without a ladder. Horticultural backyarders.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
June 17, 2024 12:24 pm
Reply to  Pogria

Yep. When we had a oak removed (rotten) the team were brilliant. I videoed a lot of the removal and they requested a copy, one bloke said he wanted to show his young sone what he was learning to do for a living. It is very skilled.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 17, 2024 3:36 pm
Reply to  hzhousewife

Yes, we’ve had a lot of call to get in tree men at various properties over the years. They are truly magnificent, especially in large trees like the coral one with a rotten truck we had to have removed eight years ago here. People came from everywhere to watch them expertly swinging around in the canopy and finally branch by branch bringing the awful malplanted thing down. True skilled professionals.

Roger
Roger
June 17, 2024 10:45 am

A Different Conservatism

Dr Campbell Campbell-Jack, The Conservative Woman 16 June 2024

THE right has made significant gains in the European elections. Sorry, I must correct that: according to our media the ‘far right’ and the ‘hard right’, even sometimes the ‘neo-fascist right’, has made significant gains in the European elections.

It is important for the establishment media to keep the dependent masses afraid of the populist European right. If the media insist on calling them ‘far right’, many middle-of-the-road voters will dismiss them out of hand as Nazi wannabes. This, of course, serves to reinforce the crumbling liberal order, which is the whole point.

Just how ‘far right’ are these insurgent national conservative parties? Marine Le Pen’s National Rally has two main policies which distinguish it from the establishment parties in France and the rest of Europe, including the UK. These are stopping uncontrolled immigration and extinguishing the influence of radical Islamist ideologues and their networks. If, like the establishment, you refuse to recognise that these are major concerns of a significant proportion of Europeans, you are living in a self-deluding bubble. Most Britons would endorse these policies in a heartbeat.

As for the rest of National Rally’s platform, it is utterly conventional with everyday policies which would be endorsed by conservatives everywhere. Tax incentives to boost industry, lower taxes on energy products, greater defence spending, revitalising France’s nuclear energy programme, getting tough on crime. It is highly likely that if Marine Le Pen were to gain power she would prove no more ‘far right’ than Georgia Meloni has proved in Italy.

If we look at the policies of Reform UK we find the same thing. Their policies are conventionally conservative. Raising the income tax threshold and lowering VAT, banning the teaching of gender ideology and critical race theory in schools, increasing defence spending, speeding up clean nuclear energy; none of this is ‘far right’ despite media assertions. Reform even plan on the left-wing move of nationalising utility companies.

Of course there are two points of contention the establishment cannot tolerate. Reform, like other populist parties in Europe, wish to stringently control legal immigration and totally halt illegal immigration, and they wish to roll back the obsession with Net Zero and green energy subsidies.

I am no supporter of Reform, yet I am considering giving them my vote. I cannot, however, give them whole-hearted support. It has grassroots appeal without grassroots presence. Reform has no party structure with local branches giving it internal democracy with the flow of information in both directions. It is very much top down with its charismatic leader Nigel Farage acting as though Reform is his personal fiefdom. The previous candidate for Clacton was unceremoniously dumped so that Farage can stand in a winnable seat, and previous leader Richard Tice was informed at a moment’s notice that he and Farage would be swapping roles.

Yet, as Andrew Cadman notes, ‘it currently looks best placed to act as a battering ram to prise open the system’. Reform will never be the national conservative movement we need, but it may pave the way for one. The question which must be worked on before it is needed is: What will this national conservatism look like?

It cannot be the shallow conservatism of the centre-right parties such as the Conservative Party which, lacking roots, has lurched from Thatcherite free markets and family values to David Cameron’s ‘heir to Blair’ social liberal promotion of same-sex marriage ‘because I’m a conservative’. To be a lasting influence on the country, national conservatism must have deep ideological roots if it is to withstand the buffeting it will receive. Those roots can only be Christian roots.

National conservatism must be built on an organic conception of society. The UK cannot be insular and xenophobic residing in splendid isolation, but rather see itself as part of a free Europe understood as a single Christian civilisation made up of many independent co-operating nations with their own distinct languages and customs which are not only recognised but valued and fostered. The UK can, and should, play a part in the cultures and politics of Europe without being bound into a stifling bureaucratic monolith.

The constitution of the EU deliberately makes no mention of the formative influence of Christianity in Europe. This is more than merely a political decision to placate secularists and other religions: the omission gives the EU the freedom to go its own way. 

Hungary’s prime minister Viktor Orban argues: ‘The European Union rejects Christian heritage, it is managing population replacement through migration, and it is waging an LGBTQ offensive against family-friendly European nations.’ Without a Christian basis, political entities are free to do whatever they wish. This has led to what Orbán describes as an ‘unaccountable empire’.

Valuing the protections of a Christian heritage is not just the position of Christians. There are many non-believers, like historian Niall Fergusson, who are aware enough to argue for the importance of Christendom: ‘I’m a big believer that with the inherited wisdom of a two-millennia old religion, we’ve got a pretty good framework to work with.’ Roger Scruton considered that Christianity was in many ways the soul of Western civilisation and that the uniquely Christian concept of forgiveness was utterly indispensable to its survival. Matthew Parris argues that human rights are neither fundamental nor unalienable without a Christian foundation. Douglas Murray refers to himself as a ‘Christian atheist’ and believes that Christianity is essential because secularists have been utterly incapable of creating an ethic of equality that matches the concept that all human beings are created in the image of God.

All other national conservative policies can stem from this Christian foundation. Our understanding of the family, the protection of the individual from the womb to the end, the formation of a holistic education policy, the way in which we view welfare and taxation, our relationship with the environment; all these and more can emerge from a Christian understanding of reality. We may be at the beginning of a new Europe: it could be our last chance to be a Christian Europe.

Campbell is a retired Presbyterian minister who lives in Stirlingshire. He blogs at A Grain of Sand.

Tom
Tom
June 17, 2024 10:54 am
Reply to  Roger

The “far right” label is a propaganda device designed discredit political opponents of whoever is using it.

Any journalist using it is declaring that he has — and deserves — zero credibility. He is not a neutral observer of anything.

Roger
Roger
June 17, 2024 11:17 am
Reply to  Tom

Correct.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 17, 2024 3:49 pm
Reply to  Roger

A very well argued piece.

Reinvigorating our culture with Christian themes would be a good thing to start promoting in schools, universities and other cultural institutions.

And moral discussions of Christian themes. Like Scruton, I’ve always placed forgiveness very high on my list of why Christianity works so well. It helps the torgiver and the forgiven and everyone can then sigh with relief and move on. Without that, we could live in the shadow of the eternal blood feud. Some cultures, naming no names, still do.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 17, 2024 10:49 am

Knuckle Dragger
 June 17, 2024 7:35 am

This is what you can do as an Order of Australia recipient (the Hun):

Daniel Andrews is resisting a Supreme Court order to hand over his mobile phone records from the day of a near-fatal 2013 car crash with a teenage cyclist.

So many questions.
What is interesting is that, even as Opposition Leader, he had a VikPol fixer on staff.
The other question, which will probably remain unanswered, relates to the unfortunate first choice of lawyers by the kid’s parents.
They went to a Labor-aligned law firm (Slugs and Bugs I think) who, faced with the prospect of suing a Labor Premier, sent them on their way with a “put a claim on TAC. Nothing much we can do.”
I an trying to imagine if the response would have been the same if Tony Abbott was the driver.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 17, 2024 11:43 am
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

VicPlod and other elements of the Victoriastani public service see themselves as a part of the Liar machine. It does and would not occur elsewhere in Australia.

cohenite
June 17, 2024 10:49 am

Dr Faustus
 June 17, 2024 9:01 am

On Sunday, the Zionist Federation of Australia, supported by the Executive Council of Australian Jewry, wrote to the government calling for Hizb ut-Tahrir – the international Islamist organisation currently mainstreaming antisemitism in Australia – to be proscribed as a terrorist organisation.

This has been happening for a long time:

Jewish leaders demand Islamic Hizb ut-Tahrir teacher be sued for anti-Semitic hate speech (smh.com.au)

Muslim extremist Ismail al-Wahwah calls for ‘armies of jihad’ to conquer Europe | Daily Mail Online

Radical Muslims say Australia Day is ‘terror and genocide’ | Daily Mail Online

And so on. No society which tolerates the intolerant survives. This country is fuked.

Eyrie
Eyrie
June 17, 2024 10:58 am
BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 17, 2024 1:06 pm
Reply to  Eyrie

 a chorus of ‘go fight your own wars with your rainbow coalition of neurodivergent genderqueer pronouns of colour’.

I wish I’d said that.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 17, 2024 10:59 am

Heaven help us…the Australian electorate has gone “far right”!

The correct verb is ‘lurched’, I believe.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 17, 2024 11:12 am
Reply to  Mother Lode

Have the Liberals pounced on this yet?

Roger
Roger
June 17, 2024 11:18 am
Reply to  Mother Lode

I think it’s more a wobble at this time.

😀

MatrixTransform
June 17, 2024 11:39 am
Reply to  Mother Lode

staggered ?

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 17, 2024 11:45 am
Reply to  Mother Lode

More of a Spud.. “You rang?”

Titus Groates
Titus Groates
June 17, 2024 12:06 pm
Reply to  Mother Lode

Not even “veered”?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 17, 2024 12:24 pm
Reply to  Mother Lode

I suspect the voteherd hasn’t moved too far anywhere. What has been apparent, particularly over the past 25 years, is the movement to the Left by Government, government, structures and organs of government, and the viewpoint of a commentariat firmly intertwined with government.

Looking backwards while speeding Left, the electorate may appear to be heading Right – a sort of political Red Shift.

Roger
Roger
June 17, 2024 11:33 am
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 17, 2024 11:37 am
Reply to  Roger

They should flee this terror and genocide to another country then. I suggest Somalia.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 17, 2024 11:50 am

Gaza?

Roger
Roger
June 17, 2024 12:18 pm

The history of Islam.

Rossini
Rossini
June 17, 2024 12:21 pm

The sooner the better!

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 17, 2024 4:19 pm

Atlantis is a good runner up choice.

Peter Greagg
Peter Greagg
June 17, 2024 11:47 am

I made a post on the Old Fred but by the time it made it out of Moderation, the Cat had moved on.

I repost it here hoping some military minded Cats had a view.

Military minded Cats may be interested to hear I was at the War Memorial the other day in Canberra.

A volunteer guide told me that an aboriginal man couldn’t enlist in the AIF in 1914 because of his ‘race’.

I told him that I thought that was unlikely. I noted that aboriginal men (and women) were eligible to vote in 1901 if they had been able to vote in State elections previously. And so I thought as they could vote in Federal Elections, they were likely to be able to enlist.

I was directed to this resource:

“Quandamooka/Noonuccal man Richard Martin enlisted in the Australian Imperial Force (AIF) on 17 December 1914. As Aboriginal people were prevented from enlisting, he declared that he was a New Zealander with five years’ service in the Light Horse. In fact, he had been born on Stradbroke Island in Queensland and had no known previous service.
https://www.awm.gov.au/learn/schools/resources/anzac-diversity/aboriginal-anzacs/richard-martin?fbclid=IwAR1JI3BlAlqGHLDuP8OtnZcHiR9y9T1jUvehswSgQmPzA5BkWWnxh3uTlek”

Does anyone have any thoughts?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 17, 2024 11:51 am

Roger at 10:45.

I am no supporter of Reform, yet I am considering giving them my vote. I cannot, however, give them whole-hearted support. It has grassroots appeal without grassroots presence. Reform has no party structure with local branches giving it internal democracy with the flow of information in both directions. It is very much top down with its charismatic leader Nigel Farage acting as though Reform is his personal fiefdom. 

He assumes that democracy can only work with a local branch structure and it is not possible for a party leader to understand the will ‘o de people without it.
I would contend that a generally apathetic public and tiny party branch memberships have corrupted democracy by providing leverage to a highly organised few.
There can be no better example than the Liars Pardee in Danistan.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 17, 2024 11:56 am
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

Both sides of the UniParty understand the value of a branch stack. The Liars seem to get caught more often, especially in Victoriastan.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
June 17, 2024 8:11 pm
Reply to  H B Bear

But only the beleaguered and impotent Right faction (e.g. Somyurek) gets held to account for it.

bons
bons
June 17, 2024 12:02 pm
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

You have succinctly described my branch.

Why do I hang around, especially as I refuse to vote LNP?

To make the pomposities who occupy the front rows at branch meetings as uncomfortable as possible. One might even achieve a collective head shake on a good night.

Zatara
Zatara
June 17, 2024 12:03 pm
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

I would contend that a generally apathetic public and tiny party branch memberships have corrupted democracy by providing leverage to a highly organised few.

That would describe the anglosphere if not the entire ‘west’ for the last 4-5 decades.

Much too comfortable, accommodating, and ‘civilized’ to fight back on the little things, which have turned into massive things.

Roger
Roger
June 17, 2024 12:16 pm
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

Still, he has a valid point.

A one-man party may be useful for disrupting the status quo, but If a broad-based democracy is to be revived (if that is possible), a “grassroots” movement is, by definition, necessary.

In regard to branch stacking and so on:
Abusus non tollit usum – abuse does not negate proper use.

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Cassie of Sydney
June 17, 2024 11:58 am

Physical attacks on Jews have always been preceded by extreme hateful rhetoric. It is only a matter of time before an attack becomes deadly. In the UK, in some parts of the US, in France and other Western European countries, Jews, particularly religious Jews, are daily being targeted for physical assault by leftist and Palestinian scum. How long before an attack is deadly? Well, I know my Jewish history and all I can say is that it’s inevitable. To be honest, I am very concerned by the increasing rhetoric from scum as per below. This is real hate speech. The word “Zionist’ is simply code for “Jews”.

The Oz…

Political, Jewish leaders urge crackdown on activists’ Hamas, Hezbollah symbols
Pro-Palestine activists in Melbourne have been displaying and wearing Hezbollah and Hamas emblems unimpeded, despite criminal legislation outlawing the usage of the two terror groups’ symbols.

Photographs obtained by The Australian from recent Melbourne pro-Palestine rallies stretching back weeks show a cohort of activists wearing Hamas’ distinctive emblem on their clothing – one activist donning the insignia is pictured less than a metre from Victoria Police officers.

In another from early June, two activists hold up a cardboard poster of the Hezbollah flags.

One of those pictured, and a prominent leader of the rallies, is Mohammad Sharab, shown wearing a Hamas badge while leading one of the protests. Sharab was charged in February after an alleged abduction, alongside another prominent activist, Laura Allam, after an incident in Melbourne’s western suburbs.

The entirety of both Hamas and Hezbollah are recognised by the federal government as terrorist organisations, and in certain circumstances the public display of the groups’ insignias is a breach of section 80.2 of the commonwealth criminal code.

The outlawing of the groups’ emblems was introduced into the criminal code in January, alongside the display of Nazi symbols. For someone to be charged with the offence, one further element is that the display of the symbols would also have to incite others to offend, insult or intimidate people of a certain race or religion, or advocate “hatred” of that group.

It is punishable with up to a year imprisonment.

Opposition home affairs spokesman James Paterson said the prevalence of the terror groups’ symbols was concerning.

“It is alarming so many Australians are openly and proudly displaying the symbols of listed terrorist organisations like Hamas and Hezbollah,” the Liberal Senator said.

He urged authorities to “prosecute every single person” found to be breaching the law, saying ­failure would “embolden the ­extremists on our streets”.

Hamas’s emblem depicts two crossed swords in front of the Al-Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem while Hezbollah’s flag is a distinctive green rifle on a yellow backdrop.

In other instances during pro-Palestine Melbourne rallies, Hamas bandannas can be seen worn by activists, T-shirts with the group’s logo and of its spokesman, Abu Oubaida, as well as one protester wearing a shirt with the words “Khaybar, Khaybar, ya yahud, Jaish Muhammad soufa ya?oud” in Arabic, which translate to an anti-Israel call that: “Oh, Jews, the army of Mohammed will return.”

Australian Jewish Association chief executive Robert Gregory, the group as been active in finding and highlighting on social media the symbols’ usage, said it was “concerning” to see insignias of terror groups flying in major Australian cities. “There’s little point in having anti-terror laws if they are not enforced,” he said, adding that anti-Israel rhetoric and the display of the symbols had been “steadily escalating”.

“Many people are questioning why the authorities are so timid in the face of Islamist extremism.

“Extremists will likely interpret the failure to act as a green light for further escalation.”

A Victoria Police spokeswoman said the force respected the right for peaceful protest but unlawful behaviour would “not be tolerated”.

“Victoria Police provide a visible presence at rallies in Melbourne to keep the peace and ensure the safety of those attending and the broader community,” she said. She also said Victoria Police would investigate any specific alleged incidents brought to the attention of the force.

I note that the NSWaffen Police have been very busy charging those Christian men and women involved in the church riot after Bishop Mar Mari Emmanuel was attacked by a teenage Muslim (the good bishop lost an eye in the attack). Impressive police work from NSWaffen, isn’t it? But remember this, the same NSWaffen Police are yet to charge one person from the night of 9 October 2023.

In the piece above, the name ‘Mohammad Sharab’ is mentioned. Interesting. A few months ago Sharab was charged with a serious crime. He is currently on bail yet even this has not curbed his ‘activities’. About two months ago, after he was charged, I watched an altercation between him and Avi Yemeni outside the Victorian Parliament. Yemeni is not a timid Jew, he stood his ground against Sharab, and it was very revealing seeing Sharab’s reaction. Sharab does not like Jews, particularly tough Jews. Despite being charged by Victorian police, despite being on bail, Sharab is clearly empowered, aggressively so. And yet the Victorian Police stand back and do nothing.

Watch this space. When (not if) a physical attack happens in this country against Jews, I will know who to blame.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 17, 2024 12:09 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

I thought the book recommendations were only there to annoy JC?

Roger
Roger
June 17, 2024 12:22 pm
Reply to  H B Bear

Chuckle.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 17, 2024 12:25 pm

Alan Dershowitz’s book “The Case For Peace” contains the following anecdote.

“Many British academics and scholastic organizations have threatened or imposed boycotts on Israeli educators and academic institutions. Oxford Professor of Pathology Andrew Wilkie (!!!) refused to accept an Israeli student, because of Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians. As he wrote to Amit Duvshani, a master’s student in molecular biology at Tel Aviv University:

“Thank you for contacting me, but I don’t think this would work. I have a huge problem with the way that the Israelis take the high moral ground for their appalling treatment in the Holocaust, and then inflict gross human rights on the Palestinians because they wish to live in their own country. I am sure you are perfectly nice on a personal level, but no way would I take on someone who has served in the Israeli Army.” (Pages 129 – 130.)

Crossie
Crossie
June 17, 2024 2:31 pm

I expect the centre of learning to move from Oxford to Jerusalem since the most capable students and teachers will be there instead of Oxford. Oxford will only have the wokesters who know nothing.

Jock
Jock
June 17, 2024 2:32 pm

For an academic. his writing is rather poor. Is this what he actually said? That Israel is inflicting “gross human rights on the palestinians” ? And all they want is to live in their own country.

There are no palestinians. Only Jews can be Palestinians. And Palestine was Israel as described by the Romans. The Arabs are out of luck.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 17, 2024 3:56 pm

Yes this professor accepts UK taxpayers money for his salary?

He is discriminating on the basis of ethnicity not for scholarly reasons.

I’d have him up before a tribunal for this. These leftists can be hoist on their own anti-discrimination petard – to say nothing of their serious moral failings. I expressing outright anti-Semitic attitudes he is introducing sheer Nazism into his scholarship and behaviour.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 17, 2024 3:57 pm

in expressing etc.

Zatara
Zatara
June 17, 2024 4:48 pm

He seems pretty comfortable in saying what he did. Particularly as he did it in writing.

Which unfortunately suggests he isn’t going out on a limb relative to the views of his peers and superiors.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
June 17, 2024 8:17 pm

He should be sacked immediately.

This is tragic to anyone with a sense of history. In better days, Oxford was very generous in taking in refugees from Nazism. (And, indeed, in taking in refugees from Jaruselki’s Communist crackdown on Solidarity in 1980; they would now be clerical fascist running dogs of capitalist imperialism.)

Bazinga
Bazinga
June 17, 2024 8:26 pm

Do it and I’ll let you keep your job.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 17, 2024 12:33 pm

The only animal more useless than a panda is a koala.

China to replace Australia’s popular giant pandas (Phys.org, 16 Jun)

China will loan Australia new “adorable” giant pandas to replace a popular pair that failed to produce offspring in more than a decade together, visiting Premier Li Qiang announced Sunday.

Adelaide Zoo has been home to Wang Wang and Fu Ni since 2009 when they were loaned by China as part of a global preservation scheme that also serves as a tool of “panda diplomacy”.

Can we donate them to someone else? Please?

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 17, 2024 6:06 pm

Appropriate for Radelaide.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
June 17, 2024 12:34 pm

From what I know of Reform UK- all from the Podcast of the Lotus Eaters, highly recommended- their lack of grassroots/branch grit has left them open to leftist lawfare and led to them burning through a number of very savvy candidates because Unnacceptable. Farage is a late lob into leadership. I like him, he seems very much accross the brief, tho I don;t know how much of the manifesto he’s written himself. He”l harvest any amount of protest votes from natural Conservatives who now hate the home of their natural two-party loyalty.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 17, 2024 2:08 pm
Reply to  Wally Dalí

Interestingly, a fairly unbiased BBC analysis of the impact of Farage and Reform on the Conservative Party.

What the commentatrix can’t bring herself to say is that Conservative Party has destroyed itself by pursuing ’me too’ Labour heartland policies that appeal to nobody.

Or to explore who will still be standing at the next opportunity for a conservative government, which will come after 10 or 15 years of Labour misrule and ineffective Conservative Opposition.

Perplexed of Brisbane
Perplexed of Brisbane
June 17, 2024 5:53 pm
Reply to  Wally Dalí

My eldest son has been living in the UK for a decade. He said he probably would have considered himself a Labour voter but has since heard Farage explain the issues including immigration and Brexit very clearly and he now says he would vote for the Reform party if he could.

There might be some hope for the young after all. If they get clear and thorough information they can come to the right conclusions.

johnjjj
johnjjj
June 17, 2024 12:45 pm

Poor Lucy, poor Ella. What are they going to do now.
Black Star Pastry baristas wore keffiyehs to work. The next day they were sacked
What is it with young women and Hamas. I thought climate change and cute animals would keep their ‘care’ genes busy.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 17, 2024 1:02 pm
Reply to  johnjjj

So sad, too bad.

Zatara
Zatara
June 17, 2024 1:10 pm
Reply to  johnjjj

“It’s about accountability,” she says.

Indeed it is. Welcome to what is apparently your first lesson in it.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 17, 2024 1:13 pm
Reply to  johnjjj

Had they worn a Star of David to work, a Pali mob would have sacked the place?

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 17, 2024 1:18 pm

If they were up here, I’d have worn the Kippah I bought for occasions like this.
See just how they like it.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 17, 2024 1:30 pm
Reply to  BobtheBoozer

Fired by that example, I’m buying a Kippah…

Pogria
Pogria
June 17, 2024 1:41 pm
Reply to  johnjjj

More than three quarters of the comments are not on their side. Boo Hoo, you morons.
Revel in your mental illness you dumb bints.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 17, 2024 4:22 pm
Reply to  Pogria

*snork*

Crossie
Crossie
June 17, 2024 2:45 pm
Reply to  johnjjj

What is it with young women and Hamas.

These are mostly well-off, bored girls who want some adventure in their pampered lives. You notice they are not volunteering to go and fight in Gaza. Not many are volunteering even for the humanitarian work in the Middle East as lately it has become rather deadly. They are all fakes.

cohenite
June 17, 2024 3:43 pm
Reply to  johnjjj

Fuk ’em; and I don’t mean sexually.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 17, 2024 4:24 pm
Reply to  cohenite

Steady on, Cohenite. Some of them are presentable, and if you buy me a slab (of XXXX Bitter) I’ll take one for the team.

Bruce in WA
June 18, 2024 9:07 pm
Reply to  BobtheBoozer

oooooh …. you slut 😀

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 17, 2024 12:45 pm
Vicki
June 17, 2024 12:56 pm

While the visit of the Chinese Premier is dominating news, the escalating conflict between Russia and the West is getting bit scary. Harry Richardson posted this update in the last 24 hours.

BIDEN’S BOLSHEVIKS ON PATH FOR WAR IN EUROPE….AND AMERICA
RUSSIAN NUCLEAR SUB AND WARSHIPS OFF U.S. COAST AS PUTIN STRIKES HEART OF DICTATORSHIP
HARRY RICHARDSON
JUN 16

By Howell Woltz

Without congressional approval, Biden pledges support to Ukraine dictator Zelenskyy for 10 years—to start a war
The stage has been set by the Biden Bolsheviks and NATO collaborators for nuclear war with Russia.

I was nine years old in 1962 when Russian missiles were last sent to Havana, Cuba and a similar stand-off took place, but this time we do not have a sensible president like John F. Kennedy in the White House.
We have a demented old man who had to be led around the G-7 summit like a pet, by Italy’s Giorgia Meloni.

Sadly, all of the Obama left-overs running the government from Secretary of State, Anthony Blinken (Ukrainian with US/Israeli citizenship) to the real ‘powers’ running the show—Susan Rice (who literally lives with the Obamas) and Hamas supporter, Samantha Powers—former U.N. Ambassador now using the CIA U.S. Aid cover for her activities—are calling every shot moving ahead on multiple war fronts.

As Russell Brand points, out—where is “our” rep?

MEANWHILE, THE G-7 CLUB OF FOOLS ARE IN ITALY
The brilliant posting by recent convert to Conservatism and Christianity, Russell Brand, says it all. The only elected ‘leader’ at this supposed summit in the picture who has any chance of being or remaining in office is Italy’s Giorgia Meloni! The rest are Globalist puppets installed by the Soros/WEF/Rothschild cabal or are so unpopular that recent polls have certain STDs ahead of them.

LET’S TRY FOR A MOMENT TO THINK OBJECTIVELY
For those who have been drinking the media kool-aid too long to think clearly, what we are witnessing is a slew of psychopaths pushing nuclear war with Putin seeming to be the only one wanting to avoid it.
To put this question into context as to how stupid US/NATO aggression has been,here are the numbers from International Peace Research Institute to help make my point:

What would you—or a real leader, if any of us had one—do if a hostile gang of nations put 250,000 armed troops, and ringed your borders with missiles and bioweapons labs? You’d stop them!

Here are the stats:
Russia’s nuclear missiles- 5,889
United States’ nuclear missiles- 5,244
Communist China’s nuclear missiles- 410

Now add in the ‘hypersonic’ capability of Russia, which the U.S. military has been too busy to develop due to much more important things—such as feminising its military and forcing deadly ‘vaccines’ on all its personnel to weaken the troops. There has been no time for preparing for war—yet billions for forcing Critical Race Theory racist training and pushing transgender agendas—from the top.

Meanwhile, the Russians, surrounded by a hostile NATO and U.S. proxies in Ukraine, prepared to take out any real threats to its sovereignty or survival.

Meet Russia’s Mach 9 Tsirkon hypersonic missile faster—by far—than a speeding bullet
HYPERSONIC IS FASTER THAN THE SPEED OF SOUND—MACH 9 MEANS YOU’RE DEAD BEFORE YOU KNOW IT
Sound waves travel 761 miles per hour (1,225 kilometres per hour) and even faster at the Tsirkon’s intended flight level of 35,000 feet.

Russia now has the capability of launching hypersonic nuclear missiles from high-altitude jets or even space, meaning that before former Joint Chief of Staff, Mark Milley, could get on his high heels to go wake up Sleepy Joe, Washington, DC would be an ash heap.

The real test case to teach NATO and the gang a lesson, in my opinion, will not be Washington, DC—or nearby Miami, Florida, however—but a much more dramatic exhibition of strength not threatening to civilians.

This morning, as example, Russian missiles and drones hit seven targets across Ukraine—including their capitol city of Kyiv—as a warning at 4 a.m. after US/NATO proxy attacks by Ukraine into the Russian motherland.

Hypersonic cruise missile from sub to a U.S. battleship or a hypersonic glide vehicle is my guess of Putin’s ‘teaching moment’ for US/NATO. The most western of those missiles hit about an hour drive from my office in Rzeszów, Poland, which was a warning to Poland, in my opinion, to quit being NATO’s doormat for ballistic missiles targeting Russia—or pay the price.

And the Polish people are clearly not with their feckless ‘leaders’.
How can I say such a thing? Because Poland’s most anti-war politician, Grzegorz Braun, just clobbered his EU-sycophantic opponent in one of the greatest defeats in Polish political history. To put this in context, Grzegorz Braun is the guy who brought a fire extinguisher into the Polish Parliament last year to put out the Menorah lit by the new EU-centric government at Hanukkah—while the same Marxists were forbidding Christian symbols.
The Left smeared him with the usual anti-semitic slurs and hate, for simply saying that Poland is Christian, not subject to Jewish, Islamic—or EU—tyranny.

There is a wonderful interview on Redacted with Clayton Morris with Grzegorz Braun, after his 115,000 vote victory—even though Mr. Braun was denied any coverage by the state-controlled press now run by the Marxists. 
That’s right—zero coverage on any State media—yet he won by a landslide indicating the Polish people are not with the Global Marxists—or their war.
Watch the interview here:
https://substackcdn.com/image/youtube/w_550,c_limit/l_youtube_play_qyqt8q,w_120/-qmXN2s5ds8

SO, WHAT WILL HAPPEN NEXT?
That depends on the pathetic puppets put in place by Barack Obama and his government stooges now running things in Washington, DC.
Yes. Barack Obama is behind all of it. He and Hillary Clinton laid out their 16 year plan in 2008, which was disrupted by Donald J. Trump in 2016.and they’ve got to finish it before Sleepy Joe takes his final slumber —which is all out nuclear war with Russia to destroy it and allow their masters to steal its assets.

My best guess is that Poland and Finland will continue picking a fight with Putin as proxies for the Brusselites, putting their own people in harm’s way, but the real ‘teaching moment’ for US/NATO will come elsewhere.
Yes. Like the U.S., Russia will use proxies. Unlike the U.S., Russia will use its superior technology to take out U.S. Battleships to end this madness.

The new F-class Russian nuclear sub is sitting within spitting distance of the United States
If that fails, then it’s lights out in the world’s war capitol, Washington, DC.
What’s next is your worst nightmare.

Remember the hypersonic Russian Tsirkon missiles? Sending half of the USS Gerald Ford battle carrier group to the bottom of the mediterranean—by Yemenis or Iranians—might do the trick

Do you want to play a game, NATO? Your move.

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Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 17, 2024 1:14 pm

A Victoria Police spokeswoman said the force respected the right for peaceful protest but unlawful behaviour would “not be tolerated”.

Oh, but it is tolerated.

“Victoria Police provide a visible presence at rallies in Melbourne to keep the peace and ensure the safety of those attending and the broader community,” she said. She also said Victoria Police would investigate any specific alleged incidents brought to the attention of the force.

If only they could spare a couple of officers from their crack Grampians Nazi Squad to investigate.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 17, 2024 3:49 pm
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

If only they could spare a couple of officers from their crack Grampians Nazi Squad to investigate.

Well, that’s easier said than done.

These are specialist officers, trained to identify (and, if necessary to go undercover, wear convincingly) tight black shorts and bucket hats.

Takes years, with a high failure rate.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
June 17, 2024 1:18 pm

I see the media / public not allowed to hear complaints evidence in Lehrman case. See Daily Mail.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 17, 2024 1:31 pm
Reply to  Bourne1879

No jokes about knickers allowed…

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 17, 2024 6:08 pm
Reply to  Bourne1879

The ‘Woomba is the real star.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
June 17, 2024 8:20 pm
Reply to  Bourne1879

Remember the Pell trial. Secret trial + public execution = open justice.

Lysander
Lysander
June 17, 2024 1:25 pm

Good on Sky for making the Never Again presentation on anti-semitism and for making it publicly available (not just for subscribers).

Kudos also to Gillard (amongst others) for agreeing to interview, calling out antisemitism.

Albo was on there talking about his support for Israel and using all the right words but he’s a duplicitous little shite and his actions (or lack thereof) speak much louder than his words.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 17, 2024 4:27 pm
Reply to  Lysander

Albo could be ground up to a paste and he would make a fine grease for spacecraft engines seeing as he’s used to working in all sorts of vacuums – moral, intellectual, professional etc.

Figures
Figures
June 17, 2024 1:29 pm

In the farce that is Lehrmann’s second trial I really want to hear what the totally credible complainant says when she explains how Lehrmann could have “stealthed” her not just once but twice!!!

Ok the first time might be a surprise but a) if she was so traumatised from the first time they had sex without a condom (without her prior knowledge), why did she consent to sex again?; and b) surely the second time around she would have been ultra-diligent in ensuring that Lehrmann remained with the condom on.

Of course, I doubt that this will matter. The laws of physics and logic are now called “rape myths” and aren’t allowed to be utilised in sexual account cases. The judge will just check his/her twitter account for whatever decision will get them the most likes and rule in that way.

Rafiki
Rafiki
June 17, 2024 9:38 pm
Reply to  Figures

You’ll hear her story on a trial (if it gets that far). If it is plastered over the media now, without contradiction by him, that might – probably wouls – prejudice a jury against him.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 17, 2024 1:35 pm

Busy doing some writing, as I look up over the ruffled water with the wimd buffeting the trees a sea eagle, not a manly one, makes a dive into the water clutches a reasonable sized fish and flies off. Although I’ve seen them out many times this is only the second time I’ve viewed a strike. I look up again too see its mate with its wing feathers apart to fly slowly over the same spot. Nature at its finest.

Vicki
June 17, 2024 1:58 pm
Reply to  GreyRanga

Grey Ranga, many years ago we had a house on the NSW south coast. The sea eagles regularly patrolled, as we were on a headland. One day my husband saw a sea eagle release a toadfish which he had caught. As husband noted, no good fisherman would keep a “Toadie”, and so the eagle released it. The only trouble was that some rock walkers below had not seen what husband saw & were startled & flummoxed when a toadfish landed at their feet from the heavens!

Lysander
Lysander
June 17, 2024 1:35 pm

Pro-tip for Dutton:

Bring back live export.

(Live export of Islamists, born here or abroad, to Yemen).

Tom
Tom
June 17, 2024 1:44 pm
Reply to  Lysander

Correct: Mr Potato Head, you have the opportunity to lead the only party that gives a sh*t about Australian agriculture — and its customers in the Australian outer suburbs.

Labor’s policy is to kill Australian agriculture and make its produce unaffordable in reparations to Gaia.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 17, 2024 1:54 pm
Reply to  Tom

For shame, doesn’t your true Labor voter believe that food appears by magic on the supermarket shelves, already wrapped?

damon
damon
June 17, 2024 2:18 pm
Reply to  Lysander

Surely it would be more efficient to kill them first?

dopey
dopey
June 17, 2024 1:41 pm

Bryson out of the bunker on 18. Man oh man !!!

Tom
Tom
June 17, 2024 1:50 pm
Reply to  dopey

Bryson DeChambeau is a cross between Jimmy Cagney, Fred Astaire and Tiger Woods — a tonic for the fractured game of golf.

dopey
dopey
June 17, 2024 5:08 pm
Reply to  Tom

So many dull US Opens but not this one.

Anders
Anders
June 17, 2024 1:44 pm

Looking briefly at my local rag paper, The Advertiser, I see this headline:

‘They’re animals’: Trump’s shock vow on immigrants

A headline designed to make Trump look like he’s calling immigrants animals when he was referring specifically to illegal immigrant gang activity. The media are just lying scum.

They’ve done this all before, and even PolitiFact found it was complete lies: https://www.politifact.com/article/2018/may/17/context-donald-trumps-comments-about-immigrants-an/

Ceres
Ceres
June 17, 2024 1:59 pm

“Black Star Pastry baristas wore keffiyehs to work. The next day they were sacked”

Yippee. Mugged by reality.
Black Star had a strict uniform policy and stated that wearing the keffiyeh was “divisive and inflammatory and was serious enough to bring Black Star pastry into disrepute.”
You bet. I would have avoided the place like the plague.
Now these entitled missies who got on the “current vibe” bandwagon are pursuing a law suit.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
June 17, 2024 8:22 pm
Reply to  Ceres

Feminists for rape? I’m lost.

Cassie of Sydney
June 17, 2024 2:16 pm

Poor Lucy, poor Ella. What are they going to do now.
Black Star Pastry baristas wore keffiyehs to work. The next day they were sacked
What is it with young women and Hamas. I thought climate change and cute animals would keep their ‘care’ genes busy.

How wonderful, a business standing up to apologists for the rape, murder and kidnapping of Jews.

Funnily enough, only this morning I ordered a cake from Black Star. Black Star Bakery has fabulous cakes, their Watermelon Cake is sensational!

Zippster
Zippster
June 17, 2024 2:30 pm

70% of young women in the US vote democrat, universal suffrage was a mistake

Crossie
Crossie
June 17, 2024 2:16 pm

“Many people are questioning why the authorities are so timid in the face of Islamist extremism.

Labor governments, state and federal, are telling the rest of the voting public who are the favoured people and that even their extremism doesn’t change things. We will see how that affects the vote at the next election. Labor may find that they have only the extremists’ votes.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 17, 2024 2:41 pm
Reply to  Crossie

We can but hope.

bons
bons
June 17, 2024 2:51 pm
Reply to  Crossie

Apparently they can control 27 seats with their down to 5% voter base.

Crossie
Crossie
June 17, 2024 3:03 pm
Reply to  bons

If Labor loses more than 5% from other groups then the 5% from Muslims becomes meaningless.

Vicki
June 17, 2024 2:19 pm

“The left seems oblivious to the reality that one reason Trump leads Biden in the polls is precisely because voters can compare the four-year record of the prior Trump presidency to Biden’s last 40 months.”

Victor Davis Hanson

Crossie
Crossie
June 17, 2024 2:26 pm

I note that the NSWaffen Police have been very busy charging those Christian men and women involved in the church riot after Bishop Mar Mari Emmanuel was attacked by a teenage Muslim (the good bishop lost an eye in the attack). Impressive police work from NSWaffen, isn’t it? But remember this, the same NSWaffen Police are yet to charge one person from the night of 9 October 2023.

Cassie, this is not slipping anyone’s notice. The comments I have heard are “Wow, brave cops, not afraid of Christians” and “What a surprise?”. Labor are losing more and more of the Christian votes and have forgotten that muslims may be very visible but Christians are still more numerous.

Rafiki
Rafiki
June 17, 2024 9:41 pm
Reply to  Crossie

They might declare that they’re Christian, but the Assyrian youth in this part of the world have a history of bad violence

damon
damon
June 17, 2024 2:29 pm
Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
June 17, 2024 3:25 pm
Reply to  damon

They claim they got compliments. Wonder how many complaints head office fielded that they wouldn’t have known about.

Actions have consequences especially on polarising political subjects and they just learned a life lesson or the way they are squealing maybe not.

Zatara
Zatara
June 17, 2024 2:39 pm

If there is a shortage of racism … invent some.

Texas Democrat Arrested for Sending Himself Bogus Racist Messages

Taral Patel, the Democratic candidate for Fort Bend Precinct 3 Commissioner, was arrested by Texas Rangers and is being charged with Online Impersonation and Misrepresentation of Identity.

Authorities allege that Patel spent months sending a stream of racist and derogatory comments to himself, impersonating a supporter of incumbent Republican Commissioner Andy Meyers.

This scumbag even used an innocent Fort Bend resident’s photo as the profile photo for the fake messages.

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Kneel
Kneel
June 17, 2024 2:45 pm

““Black Star Pastry baristas wore keffiyehs to work. The next day they were sacked
Serves them right. Airheads.”

Not in any way defending Ham-Arse, but:
1) they were young
2) when told “no”, they removed them (that is, corrected mistake when pointed out to them)

So losing the job seems a little harsh to me – of course, maybe they had already been warned about this sort of thing previously, I can’t say. But if not, a single transgression seems a bit harsh – it was a dress code, not that they were stealing.

bons
bons
June 17, 2024 3:00 pm
Reply to  Kneel

They deliberately put their employers business at risk by pursuing a strategy that they would have known would be upsetting to customers.

It is because of ‘no consequences’ that they and their ilk believe that they can do as they wish and damn everyone else. It is not an issue of dress code it is a display of contempt for their employers and customers.

‘ck em!

Zippster
Zippster
June 17, 2024 3:04 pm
Reply to  Kneel

not at all, real world, real word consequences

Kneel
Kneel
June 17, 2024 3:58 pm
Reply to  Kneel

“not at all, real world, real word consequences”

Yes, but as I said, seems a little harsh for a “first offense” which they corrected when told. No warning (written or verbal), and not “on the spot” but next day – if it was so serious, why wasn’t it on the spot? If it wasn’t so serious as to be on the spot, and they stopped doing it, why sack them? Something odd going on.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 17, 2024 4:36 pm
Reply to  Kneel

Sounds like it was dealt with initially at middle management level, but overruled by senior management who had a much stricter interpretation of the rules.
Fair enough.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 17, 2024 6:55 pm
Reply to  Kneel

Kneel, I know it seems harsh, but this is something important for these young women to learn. Also, I think there is a strong element of pour encourager les autres in the management’s decision. I am pleased to see a strong position being made against what is effectively anti-Semitism. I hope it also makes these young women think more reflectively on how life can change for you in a flash, to learn more and know that is exactly what happened to certain young women in Israel who went to a rock concert and ended up raped and dead.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 17, 2024 2:55 pm

WA nurse in Gaza: Smell of blood is unbearable as bodies lie everywhereBy Sarah BrookesJune 17, 2024 — 3.00am

Broome nurse Rebecca Smith is in the red zone in Gaza, dealing with a fresh flood of patients, treating many of them on the floor, in the blood of those who came before them.
Smith is volunteering with Doctors Without Borders at Al-Aqsa hospital, which is crammed with the dead and hundreds of wounded, mostly women and children, after heavy Israeli ground and air strikes on June 8-9.
Rebecca Smith is one of many working around the clock to treat mass casualties in Gaza.
Her team leader Karin Huster said the smell of blood in the emergency room was unbearable.
“The situation is apocalyptic,” she said.
“There are people lying everywhere, on the floor, outside … bodies were being brought in plastic bags.
“The situation is overwhelming.
“This man-made catastrophe needs to stop now.”
Smith has worked in Ethiopia and Ukraine and said while all conflicts were awful, Gaza was different because of the huge number of displaced people in one area.
“The number of people crammed into this tiny area with makeshift tents, with overcrowding, poor ventilation, no access to clean drinking water, no effective sanitation facilities, and really high food insecurity is just mind-boggling,” she said.

“In Al-Aqsa hospital, the displaced people have made themselves tents within the hospital, with used IV lines and blankets draped over these, to make themselves a little private area among the crush of humanity.
“The staff are completely overwhelmed and it’s very hard to tell who’s a patient and who’s living there.”

Smith said the Rafah crossing had been closed for a month, with no replenishment of medical supplies since the start of June to treat the influx of patients streaming in with blast injuries, broken legs, burns and shrapnel wounds.
“To deny people access to basic medical equipment like gauze and gloves, things that are needed, it’s unspeakable,” she said.
“There is a shortage of analgesia especially, a shortage of paralysing agents and things you need for intubation.
“We use ketamine for pretty much everything; how long that supply will last, who knows?
“Whether the trauma of the event itself has given you some mental health issues – which it absolutely will – or you’ve got a serious injury that will be with you lifelong, the chances of coming out properly rehabilitated are very, very small.”
Smith said staff were performing magnificently in appalling conditions, with a UN cap on fuel leading to frequent blackouts at the hospital where there was only one working generator.
“Last week a woman on a ventilator died because there was just too many critical patients, the blackout happened and no one ‘bagged’ her, and she died, which is terribly sad – all for a lack of resources and simple things that we take for granted, like power,” she said.
“I’m so tired, every night we don’t sleep for very long, maybe two hours at a stretch because of air strikes and shelling. The drones are relentless and people have been living like this for eight months.”
Smith said the most traumatic injuries involved children.
“It is very hard to say, ‘we can’t fix this person, we have limited resources and there’s just too many, and this one today we cannot help.’ That is very, very difficult, and you think about it often, about the ones that have gone to the black zone. All we’re trying to do is save as many as we can, under extreme duress.”
Smith said the experience had shown her the best and worst of humanity.
She described staff working shifts 24 hours long then going “home” to sleep in a tent on a beach without toilets or showers and beach location, constantly worried by sandflies.

“She said while she had no view one way or the other on a complicated political situation, she believed the killing of women and children who had “no part in any of this political playground of men” was not right.

Zippster
Zippster
June 17, 2024 3:05 pm

“This man-made catastrophe needs to stop now.”

yeah…. nah.

bons
bons
June 17, 2024 3:16 pm

How many Hamas script writers were employed to create this fantasy?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 17, 2024 3:19 pm
Reply to  bons

Fair question given that it’s from the same stable as the “Sydney Moaning Hemorrhoid”, and “The Age.”

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 17, 2024 3:20 pm

Don’t suppose she thought of volunteering in Israel after the October 7th attacks. Does she not realise all those young men in the attack were nurtured by these innocent, cough, women to hate Jews. Its probably the only thing pali’s can do successfully is hate. Their shiite at everything else.

Zatara
Zatara
June 17, 2024 3:28 pm

Her team leader Karin Huster said the smell of blood in the emergency room was unbearable.

It’s an emergency room. People bleed there, as in emergency rooms the world around. You are a nurse, you might want to get used to that.

bodies were being brought in plastic bags.

Um, why? Why are they bringing bodies into what you describe as an overcrowded hospital?

“In Al-Aqsa hospital, the displaced people have made themselves tents within the hospital, with used IV lines and blankets draped over these, to make themselves a little private area among the crush of humanity.

Yeah, about that overcrowding thing…

a UN cap on fuel leading to frequent blackouts at the hospital where there was only one working generator.

Does that apply to fuel stolen from the UN by Hamas? Or is that excepted? Because their generators, and refrigerators, and microwaves, and TVs… are still running.

The drones are relentless and people have been living like this for eight months.”

Those would be the drones looking for the Israeli hostages that have been held for nine months? Any thoughts on them? No? OK.

the killing of women and children who had “no part in any of this political playground of men” was not right.

Welcome to war. Doesn’t it suck that Hamas started this one? No? OK.

Question. Did you volunteer to help treat the Israeli women and children casualties of 7 Oct? If not why?

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Pogria
Pogria
June 17, 2024 4:36 pm

Photos, or it didn’t happen.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 17, 2024 4:51 pm

One sided, stupid Bint.
To fix this issue, all Hamas has to do is hand back the hostages, put down the weapons and stop killing the Jews.
No, they won’t do that – they want someone to step in and stop the fight on their terms, allowing them to keep their gains.
They keep doing this and it works.

Cassie of Sydney
June 17, 2024 3:17 pm

“She said while she had no view one way or the other on a complicated political situation

Sure you don’t, Ms Smith

she believed the killing of women and children who had “no part in any of this political playground of men” was not right.

Hmm, here are some inconvenient facts for ‘Ms Smith’, firstly, this war was not started by Israel. Secondly, the murder of Jewish women and children on October 7, and the continued holding of Jewish women and children as hostages ‘was and is not right’.

Oh and Ms Smith, any thoughts on the Bibas children? I’m quite sure that Kfir and Ariel Bibas had no/zero/nada part in this ‘political playground of men’.

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Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 17, 2024 7:06 pm

They called the terror attack into Israel their Al-Aqsa flood and now a flood of blood is coming back to them at Al-Aqsa hospital. Israel has given civilians the opportunity to remove themselves from combat areas, but they stay, encouraged (sometimes at Hamas gunpoint) with Hamas’ blessing. Hamas have first call on all medicines, energy sources and supplies. These Hamas-supporting people are simply martyrs for the cause, according to senior Hamas leaders just the other day. Their religion treats life lightly and adulates martyr deaths. Western non-Muslim women such as this nurse on this front line of a war have to understand this. Yes, it is hideous to see and the moral affront is huge when it involves injured and dead children, but sheet it home to where it belongs. This is Hamas at work here.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 17, 2024 3:27 pm

From the nested comments:

Its probably the only thing pali’s can do successfully is hate. Their shiite at everything else

Kenneth Pollack, a scholar at the American Enterprise Institute:

Arab armed forces have performed poorly in numerous areas of warfare. These problems—too many to list here—range from poor tactical leadership by junior officers to poor strategic leadership by generals, from mismanagement of information to struggles handling weapons. Other problems include unit cohesion, terrible equipment maintenance, and sub-par training.

Pollack identifies four theories that experts have proposed to explain the weaknesses of Arab armed forces: reliance on Soviet-style doctrine and military methods; poor civil-military relations and the “excessive politicization of Arab militaries resulting from the constant coups—and coup-proofing—endemic to the Arab states”; economic factors, particularly the “chronic underdevelopment of the Arab states throughout the post-World War II era”; and “patterns of behavior derived from Arab culture.”

Well, duh.

Zippster
Zippster
June 17, 2024 3:40 pm

low IQ and a 7th C death cult will do that

Rohan
Rohan
June 17, 2024 7:25 pm
Reply to  Zippster

1300+ years of marriage to 1st cousins has contributed to low IQ

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 17, 2024 4:55 pm

https://www.amazon.com.au/Armies-Sand-Present-Military-Effectiveness/dp/0190906960 A very good book on the Arab problems – which accurately mirror their civil problems.
Shorter – the Arab World is shit.

“Since the Second World War, Arab armed forces have consistently punched below their weight. They have lost many wars that by all rights they should have won, and in their best performances only ever achieved quite modest accomplishments. Over time, soldiers, scholars, and military experts have offered various explanations for this pattern. Reliance on Soviet military methods, the poor civil-military relations of the Arab world, the underdevelopment of the Arab states, and patterns of behavior derived from the wider Arab culture, have all been suggested as the ultimate source of Arab military difficulties. In Armies of Sand, Kenneth M. Pollack assesses these differing explanations and isolates the most important causes. Over the course of the book, he examines the combat performance of fifteen Arab armies and air forces in virtually every Middle Eastern war, from the Jordanians and Syrians in 1948 to Hizballah in 2006 and the Iraqis and ISIS in 2014-2017. The book ultimately concludes that reliance on Soviet doctrine was more of a help than a hindrance to the Arabs. In contrast, politicization and underdevelopment were both important factors limiting Arab military effectiveness, but patterns of behavior derived from the dominant Arab culture was the most important factor of all. Pollack closes with a discussion of the rapid changes occurring across the Arab world, and suggests that because both Arab society and warfare are changing, the problems that have bedeviled Arab armed forces in the past could dissipate or even vanish in the future, with potentially dramatic consequences for the Middle East military balance. Sweeping in its coverage, this will be the go-to reference for anyone interested in the history of warfare in the Middle East since 1945.”

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Rabz
June 17, 2024 3:27 pm