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A Night in Paris, Konstantin Korovin, 1930

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Rossini
Rossini
June 20, 2024 12:22 am

Everyone sleeping.

KevinM
KevinM
June 20, 2024 12:28 am

Not really, even before writing was invented it was dispersed, just took a while longer and reached a smaller audience.

Lucky them.

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Bruce in WA
June 20, 2024 12:48 am

Turd …

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
June 20, 2024 12:55 am

Forth

KevinM
KevinM
June 20, 2024 2:09 am

Another thing I didn’t know.
(and the list grows daily)
hello bird men/ladies

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KevinM
KevinM
June 20, 2024 2:27 am

Can’t sleep and having an easy day tomorrow, not taking any dilly pills, came across euro soccer on my feed, just as effective.

shatterzz, when you watch it, do have the sound on?
I find the inane commentary most off putting.

KevinM
KevinM
June 20, 2024 2:43 am

Boring you to death with trivia tonight, excuse and scroll.

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Zatara
Zatara
June 20, 2024 2:43 am

US Solar Power Company Collapses Leaving Homeowners in the Dark

In the Nevada desert, in the summer. Ouch.

Over 2023 and 2024 to date, 16 major solar companies have filed for bankruptcy, Solar Insure reported.

Reality strikes when govt subsidy cash runs out.

KevinM
KevinM
June 20, 2024 2:49 am

The game I tired to watch is the Germany – Hungary, the germans should pay rent on the Hungarian side of the pitch.

Nothing to do with the coach, the huns are just not good enough.
Whatever happens later, it thankfully put me to sleep.

Night all

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 20, 2024 3:12 am

Oh Tommy Tommy, Tommy Tommy Tommy Robinson!

Great show from Ezra Levant.

Rebel News HQ:

Tommy Robinson Is In Canada

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J4heTKevwo

Rian
Rian
June 20, 2024 3:35 am

Sitting here in south of France watching grandchildren play using electricity provided by Nuclear Power.
Not a windmill in sight on the hills surrounding us, with an incredible number of Raptors free to soar in the sky.
Great future ahead for them but what will it be like for us when we return to FNQ.

Tom
Tom
June 20, 2024 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
June 20, 2024 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
June 20, 2024 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
June 20, 2024 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
June 20, 2024 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
June 20, 2024 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
June 20, 2024 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
June 20, 2024 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
June 20, 2024 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
June 20, 2024 4:09 am
Black Ball
Black Ball
June 20, 2024 4:45 am

Proof will be in the pudding:

ABC chair Kim Williams has outlined his vision for a dramatic renewal of the national broadcaster, with the overhaul to be underpinned by a frank internal assessment of the relevance of the taxpayer-funded media organisation in the digital age.

Delivering the Redmond Barry Address at the State Library of Victoria on Wednesday night, Mr Williams – who assumed the role of ABC chair in early March – said the exponential growth of digital technology was threatening society’s “freedoms and our democracy”, and was presenting serious challenges for modern media companies including the ABC.

“A starting point (for the ABC) must be a greater understanding of the wants and behaviours of our audiences, and some tough assessments about whether we are fulfilling our audiences’ needs, interests and aspirations to the extent we should be,” Mr Williams said.

“How else can we be the reliable and compelling microphone and mirror to the nation?”

Mr Williams pinpointed key areas of the change that are needed at the national broadcaster, including “a renewed Radio National” to uphold the ABC’s “purpose and intellectual ambition”.

The ABC’s radio arm has experienced a sharp decline in ratings over the past two years, with Radio National’s audience slump of particular concern to management.

In his speech Mr Williams acknowledged that the ABC “must have a strong accountability framework that requires it to do better.”

“We need to be toughminded to achieve our goals and we need to measure performance reliably,” he said.

How best to achieve this new strategy?

But in controversial remarks which are sure to attract criticism Mr Williams called for an increase to the annual funding of the ABC – which currently draws about $1.1bn in taxpayer money each year – to help achieve its “renewal”.

“Of course, achieving our goals will also take something else. Something you have probably guessed. Investment,” he said.

“We all know greater investment will be needed. The ABC is an investment in Australia’s future because a revitalised ABC will be a source of great national strength.

“A great national campfire around which our stories can be told and can coalesce into a renovated national narrative about our future. A narrative able to draw all Australians a bit closer together to face up to and make sense of the disrupted times we are in.


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“Such an investment will repay itself over and over and over again.?


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“I am confident that we at the ABC can make the case for it. The budgetary outlook is tight; however the rationale is plain.”?


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Mr Williams also spoke of his serious concerns about digital disruption and the “unforeseen and insufficiently contested consequences of digital technology which abounds around us”.?

“Despite the best efforts of many in recent decades, it seems to me that the digital world has caused a fragmentation and dislocation of effort at the ABC that is failing to deliver what we need,” he said.

“It has altered the personality, chemistry and character of our national debates in sometimes, indeed often, negative ways. It is time for refreshed purpose.

“Our community and nation deserve better, renewed performance horizons.”

Speaking about the wider impacts of the dominance of the big tech companies on the media landscape, Mr Williams said: “The flow of advertising revenues to Google, Facebook and others has been relentless and devastating in its consequences … our newspapers are thinner, our newsrooms sparser, our readers and viewers and listeners fewer, to our own Australian media.

“It’s no wonder that some have stated that the decline of commercial news has now reached a critical point and is now facing even more rapid decline.

“The devastation isn’t just about revenues and audiences. It has involved an assault on the moral resources that hold our society together. Including on the qualities good media organisations offer: objectivity and truth, without which democracy becomes impossible to sustain.”

Just spitballing but maybe Mr Williams, just actually work to the charter and be impartial, don’t cheerlead for the Trot In Chief?
Start but getting rid of all the ‘talent’ right now. There’s some taxpayer cash saved.
Always someone else who foots the bill for any Left wet dream.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 20, 2024 5:47 am

Reorganised the channels on the teev yesterday, too many duplicates. The list for the ALPGBC was amazing. Radio stations as well. I guarantee each channel and station has a production team. A veritable home for slow mutleys.

Pogria
Pogria
June 20, 2024 6:06 am

My new love interest arrived yesterday.
A Honda, 3,000 psi Log Splitter.
Be still my beating heart!

Rosie
Rosie
June 20, 2024 6:11 am

I think most people have figured out that wind and solar will never cut the power mustard, no matter how much arable land is destroyed and how many towns have a Giant Battery.
I’d prefer lots of coal making lots of heat but nuclear is a great wedge by Dutton.
It’s a climate emergency!

Rosie
Rosie
June 20, 2024 6:19 am

It doesn’t matter how disorganised, wilfully blind, incompetent, deliberately undermining of the government senior members of the IDF may have been.
Hamas are still responsible for 7 October
The followers of Islam are still responsible for their genocidal intentions.

Rosie
Rosie
June 20, 2024 6:23 am
Megan
Megan
June 20, 2024 6:23 am

I think most people have figured out that wind and solar will never cut the power mustard, no matter how much arable land is destroyed and how many towns have a Giant Battery.

Not amongst the ex-public serpents and lefties cheer leaders I’m travelling through Sicily with

Much admiration for the despicable bird choppers on every mountain and the fully electric buses chugging through Catania and Palermo.

It’s the climate salvation cheer squad on steroids. The SP and I look bemused at these well educated* dummies and their gross ignorance of chemistry and physics.

* three in arts, one in botany who should know better but built a career on the Great Clinate Change Bogey Man

Am also somewhat tired of listening to regurgitated nonsense from the Age, SBS, the Guradian and the Almighty ABCess. No amount of inquiry can shift a closed mind.
Am obliterating myself on Limoncello and Campari. Not together, that would be nasty.

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Rosie
Rosie
June 20, 2024 6:25 am
Rosie
Rosie
June 20, 2024 6:30 am
Rosie
Rosie
June 20, 2024 6:31 am
Rosie
Rosie
June 20, 2024 6:32 am

James Morrow on twitter wondering how Australia’s paltry 26 million inhabitants could hold sway over the world’s climate.

Rosie
Rosie
June 20, 2024 6:36 am

“well educated* dummies” are the exception to the rule.
I shudder at the thought of daily rubbing shoulders with over educated idiots.

132andBush
132andBush
June 20, 2024 6:48 am

m0nty
June 19, 2024 8:33 pm

Reply to  132andBush

The Libs had over a decade in office to something, anything, about introducing nukes. They did nothing. That is all you need to know about the seriousness level of this policy, which is nil.

I’ll repeat my first sentence for your comprehension.

“The only reason this discussion has to be had is because your lot of gullible, ideological, grifting nut jobs have been in control of everything for way too long. Way too long.”

I am referring to BOTH colours on the political spectrum, the malignancy of the green (communist) ideology has seeped well into the LNP along with all the corruption.

The West needs Trump (or someone) to put a stop to this madness.

Anyway, it’s good to know you’re accumulating some properties, probably doing better than this humble Kulak who started with zip.
In fact you’ll probably be in front of me in line for the wall come the glorious revolution.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 20, 2024 6:50 am

Their ABCs ” national campfire” burns money and produces only thick clouds of smug.

132andBush
132andBush
June 20, 2024 6:57 am

I think most people have figured out that wind and solar will never cut the power mustard, no matter how much arable land is destroyed and how many towns have a Giant Battery.

No, they haven’t.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
June 20, 2024 6:58 am

Conservatives are fighting not just the numbers in parliament, they are up against the majority of the MSM who reflexively try to take them down while giving a soft ride to green-left pollies and policies.
This means they have to ardently present policies which go around the media and speak directly to Australian voters.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
June 20, 2024 7:01 am

The BBC gave a substantial opening boost in NewsHour to a new report by a UN Israel hater, purporting to have examined the war crimes of both Israel and Hamas. It is further evidence that the UN is no longer a force for good (as if we needed it) and the report itself is a farrago of hearsay evidence that would go nowhere in a court of law.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
June 20, 2024 7:03 am

Gary Varvel! Harsh but accurate. Obama and his crew are the string pullers; thanks Tom.

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Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
June 20, 2024 7:05 am

The ABC should get less funding, not more, until it rediscovers its proper role.

Cassie of Sydney
June 20, 2024 7:09 am

Apparently another Douglas Murray smackdown.

I’ve watched the debate. Douglas and Natasha won hands down. It is so sweet watching Murray expose and demolish the Jew hating Jew, Gideon Levy (who still chooses to live in Israel, funny isn’t it, how he’s yet to move to Ramallah or Rafah) and the Jew hating, Qatari mouthpiece, wolf in sheep’s clothing, and all round rape, murder and kidnapping of Jews apologist, Mehdi Hassan.

Further to Jew hating and rape, murder and kidnapping apologists, I see that yesterday the blog was defecated by one. It was nice to see him smacked down.

By the way, the IRC is still yet to visit one hostage in Gaza. Please, please, please, never give one cent, one penny or one dime to this disreputable Jew hating organisation.

Cassie of Sydney
June 20, 2024 7:15 am

And this morning in woke world, the uber woke Pitt-Rivers Museum in Oxford will not display an African Igbo mask because apparently, in Ibgo culture, women are forbidden from looking at it.

LOL. Does that ban apply to cocks in frocks? After all, those cocks in frocks are male! Or what about females who identify as male, as they now insist they are male, surely then they can view the mask?

OMG, woke world is truly weird world!

billie
billie
June 20, 2024 7:15 am

ABC Chairman “The devastation isn’t just about revenues and audiences. It has involved an assault on the moral resources that hold our society together. Including on the qualities good media organisations offer: objectivity and truth, without which democracy becomes impossible to sustain.”

I have no words ..

Maybe one, Delusion

Cassie of Sydney
June 20, 2024 7:19 am

The ABC should get less funding, not more, until it rediscovers its proper role.

No, there is no ‘proper role’ for their ABC, rather the whole organisation should be ‘properly’ disbanded.

Rosie
Rosie
June 20, 2024 7:21 am

The higher the energy bill the more the scales will fall, I’m looking at Europeans to lead the way.
It’s their people that are dying from energy poverty.

bons
bons
June 20, 2024 7:22 am

William’s speech was terrifying.

“The market has failed, only OUR truth must prevail”!

Just another smug trougher, but probably more dangerous than his predecessors because of his agressive promotion of his marxist ideology. Albanese chose well.

Fascinating how Labor appointees are promoted as being reasoned, moderate and rational until they take up their post and reveal their true totalitarian motivations. Unelected ABC will direct the Nation’s media.

Rosie
Rosie
June 20, 2024 7:23 am

If you read through, the terror security staff were removed.
https://x.com/UKLFI/status/1803376333784768519?t=XLpifNuCdu-v_deTLOj5_A&s=19

Rosie
Rosie
June 20, 2024 7:28 am
Cassie of Sydney
June 20, 2024 7:29 am

Last night I caught up with some Cats (here’s looking at you Lizzie, Hairy, Rabz and Rafe) and we sat down to hear the always engaging larrikin Fred Pawle talk to the genius larrikin Johannes Leak.

I reckon Bill is smiling in heaven.

It’s always nice to be in a room with like-minded people. It’s always good to have a laugh.

shatterzzz
June 20, 2024 7:33 am

Dropped this on the earlier thread, by accident, but I deserve a wider audience .. LOL!
Bloody hell .. went for my, usual, morning toddle (4kms not bad for 76 yrs old) at 5 this morning (usually go about 6 but woke early ..) and thought it was a bit chill-ish .. turns out it is down to 2C here in Fairfield NSW .. FFS!
tempted to roll down the sleeves but ya gotta draw the line somewhere ..

Pogria
Pogria
June 20, 2024 7:38 am

shatterzz,
minus 2 here in the Southern Tablelands.
It was the first “softball bat frost”, of the season.
Normally, I can crack the ice on the duck and goose baths with my walking stick. As it becomes colder, the ice becomes thicker and I need a better persuader for the ice. 😀

Zippster
Zippster
June 20, 2024 7:40 am

The Boeing Starliner Has A New Problem!

anyone still fly boeing?

Zippster
Zippster
June 20, 2024 7:42 am

Canadian man teams up with Elon Musk to FIGHT Aussie government over $800,000 FINE for trans post

the australian bureaucracy must be hollowed out by at least 80%

Cassie of Sydney
June 20, 2024 7:42 am

If you read through, the terror security staff were removed.

No different to wearing SS uniforms and Nazi insignia.

Jew hatred, now out in the open, they don’t even try and hide their hatred.

We live in disgraceful times.

Rosie
Rosie
June 20, 2024 7:44 am

ABC funding proposal includes a loudspeaker in every home, turned on and off at management’s discretion only.
How else will they improve their ratings for RN?

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 20, 2024 7:46 am

From Kim Williams’s babblespeak.

“The devastation isn’t just about revenues and audiences. It has involved an assault on the moral resources that hold our society together. 

An assault led by Their ABC, and for which he wants lots moar Munni.

Rabz it.

Rosie
Rosie
June 20, 2024 7:51 am

A cold winter in Australia.
More evidence of climate change.
Actually heard a lady yesterday, in her early seventies say it reminded her of her school days.
Which are now known as ‘briquette days’.

Rosie
Rosie
June 20, 2024 7:53 am
Rosie
Rosie
June 20, 2024 7:58 am
Rosie
Rosie
June 20, 2024 8:02 am
Rosie
Rosie
June 20, 2024 8:06 am

It’s absolutely pointless using the reply function on an old thread or the previous page, bad enough on the current page.
No-one will read them.
The reply function is a pita even on the current page.

Diogenes
Diogenes
June 20, 2024 8:07 am

I hope the southern Kats and kittens survive the polar blast today.

I may have have mentioned that I am now on Insulin. Like a good little patient, I get get my script filled in my way home from hospital. Excellent – no. I have needles and I have vials of insulin, but the idiot chemist, who asked if I had ever been on it before, “no” and doesn’t give me the delivery pen, so absolutely useless to me. I spent yesterday hunting down a chemist who actually had the delivery pen in stock.

Excellent – no. I discovered that my long lasting insulin requires a different pen. That is my task today. ( Insert many many swear words)

Whilst normally quite reasonable and patient with fools, I was a school teacher, I am at the point where I am in “tear their arms off and beat them round the head with soggy bits” mode when dealing with pharmacist , the young lasses working the counters are exempt because they are not the professionals.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 20, 2024 8:09 am

Peter Dutton’s nuclear plans get an early thumbs up in rural electorates
[Unlinkable OZ]

Let the nuancing begin:

Opposition Leader David Crisafulli was unequivocal, saying he would not change Queensland law to allow nuclear power plants in the state if both he and Mr Dutton were elected at upcoming polls.

“No, no, no, I gotta be really clear, it’s not part of our plan,” Mr Crisafulli said.

…Liberal National Party MP Deb Frecklington, the opposition’s energy spokeswoman, told The Australian the party was still opposed to nuclear.

“We have been consistent from the start; our position has not changed, this is not part of our plan and is a matter for Canberra,” she said. “The LNP has outlined the plan we’ll take to the next election; that’s what we’ll deliver and this is not part of it.”

To paraphrase a great philosopher: We have plans; if you don’t like them, we have other plans.
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Whether nuclear at dead power stations is the shot, or not, this ‘next election’ public debate plop is why Australia can’t have nice things without selling the country.

shatterzzz
June 20, 2024 8:11 am

If “our” ABC need more funding then make it interesting … Take any increase from the 251s $40billion a year .. we, the mug, taxpayer scan then sit back and eat popcorn to watch the fireworx .. if we are gonna cough up we may as well do it laffin’ .. LOL!

Crossie
Crossie
June 20, 2024 8:17 am

Mr Williams – who assumed the role of ABC chair in early March – said the exponential growth of digital technology was threatening society’s “freedoms and our democracy”,

Nope, not threatening freedom or democracy, just revealing the ABC’s lies. ESafety commissioner to the rescue!

Roger
Roger
June 20, 2024 8:19 am

In his speech Mr Williams acknowledged that the ABC “must have a strong accountability framework that requires it to do better.”

“We need to be toughminded to achieve our goals and we need to measure performance reliably,” he said.

Says the man who disappeared from view when Ms. Tingle called us racists.

Roger
Roger
June 20, 2024 8:21 am

Modi just snubbed the CCP by communicating directly and warmly with Taiwan’s president, promising closer ties in the future.

China’s foreign ministry is going nuts.

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billie
billie
June 20, 2024 8:21 am

Kim Williams, ABC Chairman, fully assimilated into the collective.

No wonder La Tingle had no concerns about calling Australians racist.

He’s her poodle ..

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Crossie
Crossie
June 20, 2024 8:24 am

“A starting point (for the ABC) must be a greater understanding of the wants and behaviours of our audiences, and some tough assessments about whether we are fulfilling our audiences’ needs, interests and aspirations to the extent we should be,” Mr Williams said.

How can you fix anything when you don’t even know who are your audiences? It’s not just the dregs that are watching and listening now, it’s all taxpayers since we have been forced to fund the ABC. When you have realised that then come back to us.

Cassie of Sydney
June 20, 2024 8:25 am

Here is a fact……

David Crisafooli does not deserve to become premier later this year.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 20, 2024 8:29 am

Glad to see you’re getting better Diogenes. I can by the anger at having to deal with educated idiots, in your case chemists. If you were not feeling better you’d curl up sucking your thumb. Not all chemists are idiots. I’ve had two recently provide excellent advice. The first one, an Indian, asked me about side effects from an over the counter medicine. I’ve stopped taking it even though my GP knew I was taking it never mentioned the side effects. I feel better generally without it. The other was a young guy still with trainer wheels. I’d had a head cold that went from my head to throat to upper chest and back again several times. He gave me a nasal spray that I should have been using in conjunction with the cold and flu tablets. My usual chemist tried palming me off with a range of wallet lightening products. When you used to be able to get pseudoephedrine it knocked colds on the head in a couple of days.

Indolent
Indolent
June 20, 2024 8:30 am
Roger
Roger
June 20, 2024 8:32 am

ABC QLD radio doing a vox pop in the South Burnett town of Nanango couldn’t find anyone to speak against using the present Tarong coal plant site (scheduled to close in 2036) for nuclear. Best they could do was a lady yet to make her mind up.

Nanango is the LNP’s avowedly anti-nuclear energy spokesperson Deb Frecklington’s home base.

Chuckle.

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Indolent
Indolent
June 20, 2024 8:34 am

This is supposedly a wellness check!

alwaysright
alwaysright
June 20, 2024 8:34 am

The ABC should get less funding, not more, until it rediscovers its proper role.

nuking from orbit is the only safe solution.

Indolent
Indolent
June 20, 2024 8:38 am
Rufus T Firefly
Rufus T Firefly
June 20, 2024 8:40 am

I haven’t asked for a while.
Is everyone still happy about the IDF engaging in Gaza?

All going swimmingly, ….., is it? Hey, that is great.

I guess Hamas must have been “eliminated”, because now they are going to send the IDF into Lebanon.
The attack plans have been “approved”, according to Zero Hedge.
Airstrikes have started.
Israeli Foreign Minister Katz said “Israel was very close to the moment when we will decide to change the rules of the game against Hezbollah and Lebanon.”
His memory clearly doesn’t go as far back as 2006.

I said on about the 10th Oct 2023: “It is NOT in Israel’s best interest to enter Gaza”.
If Israel launches large scale attacks against Lebanon, it will be CATASTROPHIC for Israel.

Israel has never been weaker, compared to its neighbours. Hezbollah is much stronger now than 2006. Not to mention Iran, who will act, as opposed to the Hamas affair, about which they have zero investment or control.
They have already provided examples of their targeting capacity.

There appears to be no upper limit, to the number of Israeli’s that the PM, Bibi Pfizer, is willing to sacrifice, to keep his sorry arse out of gaol.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 20, 2024 8:40 am

Delivering the Redmond Barry Address at the State Library of Victoria on Wednesday night, Mr Williams – who assumed the role of ABC chair in early March – said the exponential growth of digital technology was threatening society’s “freedoms and our democracy”, and was presenting serious challenges for modern media companies including the ABC.

Because of people not taking CHO advice seriously and Grampian Nasties exchanging fashion tips?

Apparently not:

“Despite the best efforts of many in recent decades, it seems to me that the digital world has caused a fragmentation and dislocation of effort at the ABC that is failing to deliver what we need,” he said.

Forget shivering Cosplay Nazis and Far Right Extremists making their own health decisions, the Digital World has disrupted the ABC – and thus our freedom and democracy.

Faced with that, nobody will be able to blame Mr Williams when he can’t save the ship without more trays of munni.

Indolent
Indolent
June 20, 2024 8:41 am

@EmeraldRobinson

James Comey got a book deal.

Andrew McCabe got a book deal.

Peter Strozk got a book deal.

Vindman got a book deal.

Bill Barr got a book deal.

Nikki Haley got a book.

Mike Pence got a book deal.

Do you see how this works?

shatterzzz
June 20, 2024 8:43 am

If nuclear power is so on the nose with federal & state gummints why not try the, obvious, solution ..? Upgrade all the existing power stations .. FFS!
After all, they operate on … COAL .. cos if there is one resource we have oodles of it’s … COAL …… FFS!

Pogria
Pogria
June 20, 2024 8:43 am

Diogenes,
sorry about your troubles.
You should have told them you were a junkie on the NDIS. A complete array of needles would have been sent to your house by Taxi or Uber within the hour.
Stay strong, and keep us updated.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 20, 2024 8:45 am

Finally found the Debate “Is Anti Zionism Anti Semitism.” On page 3 of the search results.
Sound is barely OK, no subtitles. Picture quality is poor at 360p.
Douglas Murray is his usual witty and incisive best.
Mehdi Hassan is a propagandist only used to speaking before supporting audiences and it shows.Natasha Hausdorff – I haven’t heard her speak before, but a credible and polished performance. Made several very pointed remarks that got audience applause.Gideon Levy – I had a bit of trouble working out if that was the bloke who spoke. He essentially said “I’m a Jew, how can I hate myself, all Jews are bad. Look at my history of being a Nazi victim, All Jews are bad.”The motion was carried.
Excellent result – the pair who spoke against the motion appeared a little angry and surprised at the result. That’s what happens when you get your information from the media. I think they believed they had a good chance at winning.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 20, 2024 8:51 am

Some interesting poll numbers in the UK today.

Nigel Farage’s Reform UK surges to new record high in poll overtaking Tories (Express, 19 Jun)

Nigel Farage’s Reform Party could get 24% of the vote at the ballot box on July 4, a poll has projected.

The highest share of the vote he has ever received in a poll.

Pollster Matt Goodwin, of People Polling who conducted the survey, said: “Is this a freak poll? Maybe.

“It is a radical outlier? Maybe.

“Or is it the first of many polls to find Nigel Farage and Reform climbing to a significantly higher level of support than they’ve won until now? Again, maybe.”

The highest share of the vote for Nigel Farage and Reform in the national polls to date has been 19%, which was reported by YouGov last week.

The survey, of 1,228 adults for GB News, put Labour at 35%, Conservatives at 15%, Lib Dems on 12%, the Greens at 8% and the SNP on 3%.

Plus Farage himself looks likely to win the seat he’s standing in, which had a 72% Tory vote in 2019.

Poll Predicts Historic Victory Sending Nigel Farage to UK Parliament in July Election (Breitbart, 19 Jun)

The swing against the Tories according to Ipsos could be 55%, with the Tories down to 17% in that poll. Chunky!

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 20, 2024 8:55 am

DrF I’d like to see the Liars re-elected simply on the basis of collapsing the State. Followed by the other states. Australians have to learn the hard way. Incompetence, idiotology and graft have to be the focus of voters. How far are we away from the cliff, hard to tell. I didn’t think I’d ever see this happen in Australia. 45 years ago stepping off the plane in Sydney I was surprised to find in the space of a few weeks how savvy the locals were politically. It didn’t matter which party they supported they didn’t like graft or stupidity and called it as they saw it. Now they support it due to lazy thinking and reliance on government to do their thinking for them.

Indolent
Indolent
June 20, 2024 8:57 am

Because all the Biden glitches are nothing but misinformation and lies.
Report: Biden Campaign Creates Special Task Force to Mitigate ‘Cheap Fake’ Videos

Indolent
Indolent
June 20, 2024 8:58 am
Zippster
Zippster
June 20, 2024 8:58 am
Zippster
Zippster
June 20, 2024 8:59 am

Is Mortality Data Being Suppressed or Disguised?

Malcolm Roberts

I asked questions about suppressed or disguised data. It’s been well established that the modelling during COVID was not done well – potentially to support the government program regardless what the data was actually showing.

There are numerous methods through which excess mortality can be hidden. We simply cannot trust the government data when it stands in such stark contrast to the widespread experiences of everyday Australians.

A study of excess mortality in Queensland in 2021 offered warning signals. There was a huge spike in deaths immediately after the COVID injection rollout began, even before the virus itself arrived in Queensland. Similar patterns was seen in Western Australia and other parts of Australia. This spike then came back to near normal levels once the “vaccine” rollout slowed down.

It is not acceptable that instead of seeking to understand the reasons behind these findings, our health authorities are looking for ways to discredit this data.

Indolent
Indolent
June 20, 2024 9:08 am

Dr. John Campbell’s presentation to the Australian Medical Professionals’ Society

Evidence based communication

alwaysright
alwaysright
June 20, 2024 9:10 am

Dear Warministas,
In my time this, is easily the coldest June in Melbourne.
Plants don’t lie.

Tom
Tom
June 20, 2024 9:15 am

The J-school kiddies writing the radio news scripts don’t realise they’re doing satire:

On the 9am AIR (Australian Independent Radio) news:

There is concern that construction of nuclear power stations in Australia could delay necessary climate action.

As I keep saying, the problem isn’t the radio/TV station or the news outlet: Australian journalism schools ALL produce the same group-thinking activist zombies who wouldn’t know the public interest if it jumped up and bit them.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 20, 2024 9:22 am

Is everyone still happy about the IDF engaging in Gaza?

In the exact words of the thankfully-retiring midget cheat Warner, sitting in the lunch room at Lord’s when Jonny Bairstow sat down across from him and asked ‘Are you blokes happy with that?’, apropos of his legitimate stumping dismissal when he walked out of his crease:

‘Very’.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
June 20, 2024 9:30 am

Laura Jayes: why do we need nuclear? Aren’t renewables and batteries better?
(I wish reporters wouldn’t imagine that they are science-literate, particularly regarding energy)

Roger
Roger
June 20, 2024 9:32 am

First week of a Dutton government.

The Communications Minister calls Kim Williams.

“Kim, mate, you were spot on in your Redmond Barry address; news media is now too fragmented to justify spending billions indefinitely for a national broadcaster with a rapidly decreasing audience. We’re defunding the ABC. Tell Laura we’ll entertain serious offers from the staff co-op in the unlikely even they’ll be able to raise the capital. No….sorry, Kim, I don’t have time for a chat about it. I’ve got to call SBS.”

I know…I’m dreaming.

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Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 20, 2024 9:35 am

From my morning consumption of media, it’s quite clear that Australia is blessed with a huge, previously hidden, supply journalists who are hardcore energy market experts, all with noocular power as their specialist subjects.

It seems that, just as Chernobyl and Fukushima are the ‘go to’ safety design prototypes for any Australian nuclear installation, Vogtle 3&4 and Hinkley C are the preferred economic models for the nuclear disasteratii.

I’m seeing sensible policy debate about to drown in a tsunami of misinformation and stupidity.

[For wonks: the actual back stories of Vogtle and Hinkley give fascinating insight into government incompetence and bastardry and Contract Risk Transfer 101. My particular favourite, the awful mess that is Hinkley C, is a legacy of nine years of EU anti-protectionist lawfare.]

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 20, 2024 9:48 am

EMT and Gordon Corrigan’s monumental work on the Second World War.
“Despite the fact that they did not win the war from the air, Arthur Harris and the men of Bomber Command were in many ways the heroes of the British war effort. With only 7% of all British military manpower, Bomber Command suffered 24% of all British military deaths, and they got precious little thanks for it. Embarrassed by criticism of civilian deaths, the British Government pulled the carpet from under Harris and his men. There was a Burma Star and an African Star, an Atlantic Star and a Pacific Star, but there was no Bomber Offensive Star, and alone amongst the Commanders in Chief, Harris was not elevated to the peerage after the war.It was a disgraceful way to treat brave men. (Page 452.)

Re – posted, from the old thread.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
June 20, 2024 9:50 am

Now Laura has Tim Buckley “Climate Energy Finance Director” on to tell us all that noocleer ain’t good.

Oh come on
Oh come on
June 20, 2024 10:02 am

Unsurprisingly, the ABC found their expert to whine about nuclear power:

Nuclear won’t make power bills cheaper, energy analyst says, as Coalition claims scrutinised

Actually, I’m surprised it took them this long. Anyhoo, some basic bitch analysis occurred:

Dr McConnell said there was merit to the idea that Australia should “leave the door open” to the use of nuclear power in future, but it was stretching credulity to argue it would lower power bills.

What would lower power bills is abandoning the entire zero carbon boondoggle and go back to coal fired power generation, but that is off the table. So the question is which policy will result in the smallest increase in power bills, not which policy will lower them.

He said there was nowhere in the developed world that had built a nuclear reactor since the start of the century without incurring significant cost and time blowouts on the construction.

Well, the start of the century is less than 25 years ago and it probably takes 15 years to bring a plant online including planning and design phases. So this isn’t a very illuminating factoid (assuming it is true). If we wanted to do this seriously and we want to use developed countries as our standard, we would look at periods when nuclear power station construction was in its heyday and try to replicate those conditions.

Also, there are going to be enormous cost and time blowouts building a reliable renewables-powered grid (if such a thing is possible). We still haven’t switched off many of the coal-fired stations that provide stability to the network. When we do, then let’s talk about costs and time blowouts.

But Dr McConnell said the wholesale cost of nuclear in Ontario — at $110 a megawatt hour — was comparable to or higher than the wholesale cost of energy across much of Australia.

If retail electricity prices were relatively low in Ontario, he said, it had little to do with cheap nuclear power and arguably more to do with other factors such as low poles-and-wires costs.

Well, why does Ontario have low poles and wires costs compared to us? Because we need to build a grid capable of managing the the massive spikes and collapses in power output that are inherent in diurnal solar and transient wind. A steady baseload source means you don’t need to construct a grid capable of absorbing such wild fluctuations.

Anyway, it seems the good doctor’s only concern is that the coalition claimed nuclear power wouldn’t be cheaper. Okay, fine. Let’s say it won’t be cheaper. What it will be is reliable. That cannot be said about wind and solar. I want a reliable source of power. If we build a grid that provides unreliable power, the cost will be enormous and will dwarf any savings from the allegedly lower sticker price of implementation of this unreliable model.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
June 20, 2024 10:03 am

Check China’s Nuclear Power station build program.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 20, 2024 10:09 am

Democracy, German-style.

Germany Moves Closer To AfD Ban, Green Claims Party Is “Security Risk For People & Democracy” (19 Jun)

The Alternative for Germany (AfD) party, which is now the second most popular party in the country, is moving closer to being banned. Christian Democrat (CDU) MP Marco Wanderwitz says he has enough MPs in his corner to table a motion for an AfD ban in the Bundestag.

How dare the voters vote for the wrong party!

Diogenes
Diogenes
June 20, 2024 10:10 am

Unsurprisingly, the ABC found their expert to whine about nuclear power:

Nuclear won’t make power bills cheaper, energy analyst says, as Coalition claims scrutinised

Ask him about what happened to prices when Finland opened their latest reactor last year!

Everything is coming in in over time and budget, whether it is a new council park, a new stadium, road or railway.

Salvatore - Iron Publican
June 20, 2024 10:11 am

Zippster: You are an oracle of the highest order & must be given an office & clerical staff to promulgate this truth to every household & workplace in the nation, daily.

… the australian bureaucracy must be hollowed out by at least 80%

Salvatore - Iron Publican
June 20, 2024 10:17 am

There was a Burma Star and an Africa Star (sic), an Atlantic Star and a Pacific Star, but there was no Bomber Offensive Star

Who wrote this?
The Air Crew Europe Star, furthermore, in the order of precedence came before the Africa Star.
For those who already had a chestful of service stars, there was the Bomber Command Clasp.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 20, 2024 10:19 am

Roger
 June 20, 2024 8:32 am

ABC QLD radio doing a vox pop in the South Burnett town of Nanango couldn’t find anyone to speak against using the present Tarong coal plant site (scheduled to close in 2036) for nuclear

Channel Nein did a little better in the Latrobe Valley yesterday.
A small group of elderly Greens (some looked like they may have been refugees from the Australian Democrats) waving hastily constructed placards declaring their avowed opposition to “Noocular Power”.
The vox-pop was equally enlightening … “It’s dangerous” … “I don’t like the idea” … etc.
And when I say “small group” I am talking 10-12, but it didn’t stop the reporterette declaring victory:-
“There you have it. The people of Latrobe Valley do not want Noocular Power plants on their doorstep”.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 20, 2024 10:30 am

The highest share of the vote for Nigel Farage and Reform in the national polls to date has been 19%, which was reported by YouGov last week.

The survey, of 1,228 adults for GB News, put Labour at 35%, Conservatives at 15%, Lib Dems on 12%, the Greens at 8% and the SNP on 3%.

Not wanting to be a Debbie Downer here, but under the Pom first past the post system, Reform = Springtime for Labour and Winter for the Conservatives.

As an example: pretending the YouGov poll represents a typical seat and assuming all the vote flowing to Reform comes from the Torries, the Reform candidate on 19% will come a distant second to the Labour candidate on 35%.

Whereas previously Labour and the Conservatives were line ball on 35:34.

So, expect a Torrie wipeout with no redeeming features.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 20, 2024 10:31 am

It seems that, just as Chernobyl and Fukushima are the ‘go to’ safety design prototypes for any Australian nuclear installation

Chernobyl. Decaying infrastructure run by disengaged and poorly trained staff.
Fukushima. Poor site scoping risk assessment.
None of the sites suggested by Dutton is remotely at risk of a tsunami, and Australia is the most geographically stable place on earth for operation of reactors and storage of waste. Fun fact for the Techno-illiterates … Australia is the only continent on the planet with zero active volcanoes.

Roger
Roger
June 20, 2024 10:38 am

Nuclear won’t make power bills cheaper, energy analyst says, as Coalition claims scrutinised

Scrutinised, eh?

I don’t suppose they asked him to show his workings?

Factoring in progressively lower construction costs once the first installation is built and the savings on poles and wires because the grid will be less dispersed than with renewables? And what about the longevity of nuclear plants as opposed to the relatively short lifespan of renewables infrastructure?

I’ve no difficulty with scepticism about such a large undertaking, but let’s see some evidence and not merely hear opinions voiced.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 20, 2024 10:40 am

Faustus, the poll said 24% for Reform, not 19%. Which if true was estimated to give Reform 50 seats.

If there is a swing on Reform could be the second largest party behind Labour. And Labour only had 35% themselves.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 20, 2024 10:43 am

Dr F at 10:30.
The first past the post system is problematic when you split the “conservative” vote, but maybe this is the sort of “burning down the house” which is required.
Probably too late, but Farage could maybe drag the Conservatives back to somewhere in sight of where Thatcher was by agreeing to a form of Coalition (with a few hard core non-negotiables like Immigration).
Agree for a tactical withdrawal from selected seats on both sides.
It seems a whacky idea, but as PJ Keating once said “In the great race of life always back Self Interest. At least you know it’s trying”.
Faced with oblivion and the end of the gravy train career, the Conservatives might jump at it.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 20, 2024 10:53 am

Conservatives might jump at it.

Sancho – not in a million years. The Turnbull/Kean wing of the Conservative Party will never allow the great Trumpian unwashed take over the reins.

The CDU trying to ban AfD (see upthread) is exactly the same equation. I expect the establishment parties in Britain will attempt to do likewise to the Reform Party.

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Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 20, 2024 10:58 am

Who wrote this?
The Air Crew Europe Star, furthermore, in the order of precedence came before the Africa Star.

Thanks for sorting that one, Sal.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 20, 2024 10:59 am

Everything is coming in in over time and budget, whether it is a new council park, a new stadium, road or railway.

An inconvenient fact, oddly ignored by AEMO/CSIRO, and missed completely by the media children.

Doctor Chalmers informed us yesterday that Australia is facing a $225 billion bill for the rollout of renewables infrastructure out to 2050. Run through a Snowy2.0.xlsx real-world-estimates model, that becomes $0.5 to $1.5 trillion (today’s dollars) spend without raising an assumption sweat.

Now that renewables have moved beyond an opportunistic panic subsidy grab, nobody with any experience of project management is game to commit to stump up that sort of money.

Which is the realisation now rattling through the offices of Canbra in the presently dawning ‘Oh, Shit! Moment’.

Indolent
Indolent
June 20, 2024 11:00 am
m0nty
m0nty
June 20, 2024 11:03 am

On one hand, Nigel Farage is everything wrong with British politics, an opportunistic grifter with no morals or principles, and his Reform Party has no grassroots structure at all.

On the other hand, he could legitimately claim a lot of credit for destroying the Tories.

Tough choice.

Vicki
Vicki
June 20, 2024 11:05 am

For a landmark report on the origins of SARS 2 – this is a report on the US Senate’s official inquiry and relevant testimonies.

It is conclusive re the role of US virological research scientists – namely Peter Daznak’s Eco Health Alliance in funding viral gain-of-function research in the Wuhan lab. The turning point in this research was the insertion of the furin cleavage site in the genomic sequence – the stabilising human mutation called DG14G. It is truly an amazing story that is gaining light of day finally in the public domain, though it has been known in scientific circles and social media sites for some time. I suspect that although no one will be gaoled, there will be quiet changes of personnel in many labs. Will it stop similar disguised research, however? Doubtful.

https://petermcculloughmd.substack.com/p/origins-of-covid-a-historic-senate?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 20, 2024 11:09 am

Doctor Chalmers informed us yesterday that Australia is facing a $225 billion bill for the rollout of renewables infrastructure out to 2050. 

That would buy ten nuclear power plants easy. Even if built by the CFMEU.

Roger
Roger
June 20, 2024 11:10 am

I note that in the UK the peak bodies representing Muslims, Sikhs and Hindus have each issued “manifestos” making demands of political parties for special treatment for the voting blocs they purport to represent.

We’re not far from that here at least in western Sydney.

This neo-sectarianism is the terminus ad quem of multiculturalism and, perhaps, of democracy as we have known it.

Rosie
Rosie
June 20, 2024 11:10 am

“Is everyone still happy about the IDF engaging in Gaza?”
No.
I think they are sacrificing far too many fine young Israeli men to minimise the civilian casualties Hamas so desperately wants.

Roger
Roger
June 20, 2024 11:13 am

Monty has Farage Derangement Syndrome.

Have Bex and a nice lie down, there’s a good fellow.

Crossie
Crossie
June 20, 2024 11:14 am

Unsurprisingly, the ABC found their expert to whine about nuclear power:

Nuclear won’t make power bills cheaper, energy analyst says, as Coalition claims scrutinised

It will always be cheaper than the renewables electricity, even if you gold-plate the cooling towers.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 20, 2024 11:15 am

Whilst on such things…

Senate Passes Major Pro-Nuclear Bill, Sends To Biden’s Desk (19 Jun)

The legislature’s upper chamber passed the Fire Grants and Safety Act — a bill containing the text of the pro-nuclear ADVANCE Act — by a strong 88-2 bipartisan vote. The bill represents one of the most significant efforts undertaken in recent years by Congress to spur the country’s nuclear energy infrastructure and capacity

Someone should ask Bowen about this. Maybe Monty could, since he’s a journalist.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 20, 2024 11:15 am

m0nty
 June 20, 2024 11:07 am

 Reply to  Sancho Panzer

The Latrobe Valley is on eleven fault lines.

California sits on about 400, of far greater potential than anything in Australia, and they manage construction standards to cope.
We have the most geographically stable environment on the planet. The occasional 3 – 4 shake would barely cause a “mind mah tea!” in the control room, or shake a few of your belly rolls.
I smell fear.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 20, 2024 11:16 am

Faustus, the poll said 24% for Reform, not 19%. Which if true was estimated to give Reform 50 seats.

If there is a swing on Reform could be the second largest party behind Labour. And Labour only had 35% themselves.

Exactly my point.
The UK Commons has 650 members.

The only positive I can see is the massive majority is going to neuter the insane factions within Labour.

Crossie
Crossie
June 20, 2024 11:18 am

Then there’s what happened to wholesale prices when Finland turned on their new nuclear plant…

Bruce of Newk, you would think our parliamentarians would be lining up for a fact-finding tour to Finland. Not even throwing in a Santa sleigh ride with reindeer is enough to tempt them to visit there.

Vicki
Vicki
June 20, 2024 11:18 am

Re the Lib proposal of the nuclear substations:

Personally, we are extremely enthusiastic. One of the proposed sites is the current Piper facility on the NSW Central Tablelands. If this went ahead it would cancel out the installation of the current proposal for vast swathes of solar panels planned for the “Orana” farming area & also potential approval of massive amounts of wind turbines on the slopes.

One of the Cats – it could have been Farmer Gez – warned me some time ago about the proposals for our area. It wasn’t until we saw a map of the proposed sites at the IPS Energy Forum in Sydney recently that we really understood the horror of it all.

We really must get the Coalition elected to stop this insanity.

BTW the installation of a nuclear facility (there are all the requirements there) would allow a complementary continuation of the coal industry in the area – & perhaps a gradual phasing out of these operations as they become redundant. The developing tourist facilities and attractions in the amazing “Gardens of Stone” National Park and in the relatively unexplored Wollemi promise to fill any loss of jobs.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 20, 2024 11:22 am
Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 20, 2024 11:31 am

That would buy ten nuclear power plants easy. Even if built by the CFMEU.

Which directs us to Labor’s real problem with nuclear power. Very few jerbs for the boys.

Almost all employees on coal fired power stations are blue collar union members. Similarly wind and solar farms.

Almost all employees on nuclear power stations are scientists and engineers.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 20, 2024 11:37 am

Why renewables are a hard sell in the bush.
German company RWE is proposing a wind project at Campbell’ Bridge NW of Stawell. It’s magnificent dual purpose country with good soils and rainfall.
RWE is a major coal miner and steel producer in Germany that in 2018 was the number one CO2 emitter in the EU.
Tell me again Bowen that this is about the climate and not just a huge subsidised investment scheme for the big players and funds.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 20, 2024 11:40 am

Eating fish and chips is saving the planet, but not enough. We need to eat more fish and chips.

Green aviation targets driving cooking oil fraud at ‘mass scale’ (19 Jun)

Net zero targets aimed at encouraging airlines to use so-called green aviation fuel are driving fraud “at a mass scale”, campaigners claim.

Exporters in China and Malaysia are using virgin palm oil instead of recycled cooking fat to make sustainable aviation fuel (SAF), research from lobby group Transport & Environment (T&E) suggests.

This means that rather than reducing CO2 emissions, the drive to adopt SAF may instead be driving deforestation.

I’m amused that used chip fat is now known as “green aviation fuel”.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
June 20, 2024 11:42 am

Dylan McConnell is not exactly an independent energy analyst and fails to disclose that fact, neither does the ABC by the looks but that’s normal:

https://scholar.google.com.au/citations?user=E8qBor0AAAAJ&hl=en

Oh well, going to be more of his ilk squealing and massaging data to protect their gravy train before long.

m0nty
m0nty
June 20, 2024 11:44 am

Good news, Cats! Matthew Guy has come out in support of Dutton’s nuke plan.

Callum Godde @calgodde

Former Victorian opposition leader Matthew Guy says no state government will have the right to stand in the way of Peter Dutton’s nuclear plan if the coalition wins the next federal election.

“He’ll come in with a mandate.” #springst

So good old Potato Head has the support of one state Lib leader. Well, former state Lib leader. In a state where the Libs may never win office again. But hey, it’s something!

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 20, 2024 11:44 am

Dim Chalmers just crapped in the lefturds’ bed.

Screeching “Noocular is expensive” is now open to the questions “Compared to what? A $225 billion ‘investment’ in renewables that will have to be repeated every 20 years? Not having reliable electricity at all?”

Only stupid lefturds like Dim Chalmers and mUntyfa could possibly think that we can manage without either or both of lower emissions coal generation (available now) or nuclear starting in under ten years time.

There is a role for renewables, in isolated sites backed up by diesel generators. Sort of like many EV charging stations.

Crossie
Crossie
June 20, 2024 11:44 am

The developing tourist facilities and attractions in the amazing “Gardens of Stone” National Park and in the relatively unexplored Wollemi promise to fill any loss of jobs.

Vicki, don’t count on those to be available to the public. There will be many ersatz aborigines who will soon claim that these are holy of holies and must be locked away from colonisers and only available to the select of the 251 nations.

local oaf
June 20, 2024 11:49 am

This might help

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Barking Toad
Barking Toad
June 20, 2024 11:49 am

Anyone able to post the article by Robert Gottliebsen in the Oz Online?

Deals with dams and the climate hysteria infecting BoM and CSIRO.

Salvatore - Iron Publican
June 20, 2024 11:49 am

The Air Crew Europe Star, furthermore, in the order of precedence came before the Africa Star.

Thanks for sorting that one, Sal.

Furthermore, in the order of precedence, the Air Crew Europe Star also comes well before the Burma Star.

Cassie of Sydney
June 20, 2024 11:50 am

Tough choice.

The UK Conservatives deserve ‘net zero seats’ and it’s looking like that might happen. Sweet, very sweet. But at least people now have a choice in Reform and Farage. Farage speaks for middle and working England. If nothing more, he’s enlivened a dull campaign. Will Reform do well? Well, that’s hard in a ‘first past the post’ system however I reckon Farage will win in Clacton, the constituency he’s running in, located in Essex.

Anyway, what’s it you Nazi. UK Labour will win in two weeks, in a landslide, but not because anyone wants Labour and Der Sturmer. But once they win we’ll see the true colours of the Der Sturmer government, and blasphemy laws will be introduced, and so, instead of the Church of England being the ‘official’ religion, it’ll be Islam. But unlike in 1997 there is no hankering for a Labour government. Besides, just like the Slug from Grayndler, you’re a Corbynista (like Sturmer was), not surprising really, Jew haters always like other Jew haters.

Meanwhile, Jews will leave the UK, and slowly but surely the UK will become ‘Judenfrei’, which no doubt will make you and your comrades happy.

m0nty
m0nty
June 20, 2024 11:56 am

Judith Sloan of the Institute for Private Enterprise, last August: Dan Andrews resurrecting the SEC is Hitler

Judith Sloan of the Institute for Private Enterprise, today: Peter Dutton promising a 100% government-owned nuclear industry is the “sensible thing to do”.

What a shameless hack.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 20, 2024 12:08 pm

Yikes.
Noocular fallout incoming!
Sold my shares this morning.
It’s all in iodine now.

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Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 20, 2024 12:11 pm

robert gottliebsen Hold tight: storms gathering over our precious water

These days, most weather discussion revolves around climate change, which can obscure significant conventional weather events that look to be heading Australia’s way.
Right now, some of America’s top weather analysts along with those who operate in Australia independent of the Bureau of Meteorology are sending out alerts to their clients about a possible large Australian rain pattern developing.
It is a weather pattern that we have seen many times over the last century. The emphasis of the warning is on the word “alert” and not on “forecast”.
But the alert has a particular relevance communities around the dams that have previously exacerbated floods such as Sydney’s Warragamba, Brisbane’s Wivenhoe and other dams scattered around eastern Australia – possibly as far south as Lake Eppalock in Victoria, which, if there is a spill, can flood the town of Rochester.

If the system the experts are tracking continues to follow its historic pattern, then there will be heavy rain in eastern Australia around the end of the year and/or the beginning of 2025.
The managers of the above dams and similar water storages don’t need to make decisions now, but must follow the weather pattern. Last year, US weather people noticed a body of deep cold water proceeding easterly across the Pacific towards the US. On many (but not all) occasions in the past, similar water streams have hit the America’s coast and rolled over to become a stream of cold water much closer to the surface, heading west across the Pacific towards Australia.

Americans fear this water movement pattern because it very often creates increased hurricanes in the US.
Of course, it doesn’t always happen that way but, to date, this particular water movement is looking like a hurricane causing classic. The stream of surface cold water is now headed towards Australia and has passed Honolulu.
Again, with the US style alert caveats, if the stream of water comes close to northern Australia it will force warmer water into the Papua New Guinea/Indonesian area. When that happens, it usually creates very heavy rainfall. It is possible that the rain will stay in PNG and Indonesia, but normally it extends across northern Australia and spreads south through Brisbane and Sydney into northern Victoria.
If such a pattern developed, southern Victoria and South Australia would be unlikely to get heavy rain. The clients of US and Australian commercial weather analysts are now receiving regular updates, with the constant qualification that the pattern could change.

No one, and particularly our Bureau of Meteorology, is prepared to issue the kind of forecast put out by the Australian BOM last September which stated:
“Unusually low rainfall is at least twice as likely for parts of southern and northeastern Australia, with the chance of unusually low rainfall increasing to 3 times as likely for southeastern WA and parts of southern Victoria.”
Then came 19 chilling words for farmers: “Unusually low rainfall equates to the driest 20 per cent of October to December periods from 1981 to 2018.”
Apart from getting it totally wrong (there was heavy rain) the weather bureau did not update with sufficient clarity and regularity that the systems they had previously followed evolved into a different direction to the way they had expected, Farmers sold stock at low prices.
And of course that could happen with the current weather system.
I was first alerted to this developing water system late last year when it was very speculative, but since then the system has performed exactly the way similar eastern Australian rain creating systems have developed over the last 100 years. So it’s time to issue an alert.
The management of our big dams are always reluctant to let water go in advance of major rain falls because they fear the rain might not arrive, and they will be short of water.
And so in 2016 there were calls for the Warragamba Dam to release water. The dam managers resisted the pressure and the rain system went in a different direction. In the years that followed there was a severe drought which would have been far worse had the dam levels been lowered.

In 2022, Brisbane’s Wivenhoe started the wet season only 56 per cent full. The large rainfall later caused a spill, but it wouldn’t have been conceivable to reduce water when it was only 56 per cent full.
The bottom line is that there are likely to be some difficult decisions for the water bodies that control the dams, but it will be much easier to make those decisions if they are following the cold-water pattern.
The long term issue is that weather issues in the Bureau of Meteorology and CSIRO have often been entwined with climate change agendas. The Americans are more skilled in separating those agendas from concentration on the nature of a particular weather system and how they have performed in the past. It doesn’t mean their conclusions will be right, or climate change based forecasting wrong, but at least they’re a basis of precedent.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
June 20, 2024 12:13 pm

Thanks ZK2A.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 20, 2024 12:14 pm

Monty, you are one ignorant puppy.

The “new” SEC performs no function as it owns no generation or transmission assets.
It remained on the books as a moth balled entity until Andrews decided to use the title as an election stunt. The only current purpose of the SEC is as a bucket of money for renewable investors to apply for a nice taxpayer subsidy grant.

Feel free to provide alternative “facts” Monty.

Muddy
Muddy
June 20, 2024 12:16 pm

The Bodies of Others

The New Authoritarians, COVID-19 and the War Against the Human

By Naomi Wolf

The Bodies of Others is about how we came to the harrowing civilizational crossroads at which we find ourselves – engaged in a war against vast impersonal forces with limitless power over our lives and which threaten the freedoms we have always taken for granted.

In her most provocative book yet, Dr. Naomi Wolf shows how these forces—from Big Tech and Big Pharma to the CCP and our oligarchical elites—seized upon two years of COVID-19 panic in sinister new ways, to not only undermine our Republic but to fundamentally reorient human relations.

Their target is humanity itself. Their end goal is to ensure that our pre-March 2020 world is gone forever. Irretrievable. To be replaced with a world in which all human endeavor—all human joy, all human fellowship, all human advancement, all human culture, all human song, all human drama, all worship, all surprise, all flirtation, all celebration—is behind a digital paywall. A world in which we will all have to ask technology’s permission to be human.

But we, the people of the world, did not vote to abandon our old systems and destroy our old ways so absolutely they could never be recovered. And Wolf shows how, against overwhelming odds, we still might win.

Random thought: How long until ‘Your body belongs to The State. You are permitted to reside in it for a designated period?’

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billie
billie
June 20, 2024 12:18 pm

Florence Turnbull

Could be made more useful, should she ever complete the Snowy Mountains Folly task.

Drive it underground, to Sydney, then drive it underground to Melbourne.

High speed rail tunnel

Just a thought

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
June 20, 2024 12:20 pm

Wasting time saying what a dufus Monty is ranks somewhere below saying how nutty the policies of the Biden regime are. In both cases the objective of the policies espoused by the left are purely destructive of national interests. In the USA the leftists game is to detonate the USA from within, with some help from 12 million illegals.
I’m not entirely convinced that dopy Australian leftists aim that high, but they are on the same track. Don’t waste your time pointing out the flaws in their thinking, just be aware that bringing down capitalism is the project and that it is being pursued on many fronts.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 20, 2024 12:28 pm

PETER VAN ONSELEN: Deformed pets, three-eyed fish and even Lara Bingle in a bikini: Anthony Albanese’s anti-nuclear power campaign is an insult to Aussie voters
Daily Mail. Your tax dollars at work.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 20, 2024 12:28 pm

Chalmers and Albo are panicking amazingly today. They’re going full Dutton Derangement Syndrome and absolutely nuclear about his nuclear policy.

These are Sky News stories that have been posted just this morning. Too many to link, but go to their webpage if you want to read them.

‘Stick to the facts’: Dutton fires back at criticism of his landmark nuclear proposal

Opposition leader Peter Dutton has staunchly defended the staged rollout of his nuclear proposal as “the right one”, after Treasurer Jim Chalmers piled on and claimed the project would be “the dumbest policy ever”.

‘Farcical’: Albanese blasts Dutton and the Coalition’s nuclear plan

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has launched a blistering critique of the Coalition’s nuclear ambitions and labelled the proposal “farcical” and an “economic catastrophe”.

PM: Peter Dutton a ‘lion outside and a pussycat in front of Premier Li’

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese says Opposition leader Peter Dutton was a “pussycat” when in front of Premier Li.

‘An announcement without any substance’: PM hits out at Opposition’s nuclear plan

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has labelled the Opposition’s nuclear plan an “announcement without any substance”.

Nuclear debate highlights ‘core issue’ of high energy prices

Independent MP Dai Le says the Coalition’s nuclear plan is “hypothetical” until they win government.

Coalition’s nuclear plan met with ‘grave reservations’

South Australian Premier Peter Malinauskas has expressed “grave reservations” over the federal Coalition’s nuclear plans.

Labor ‘signed up to safety’ of nuclear technology with submarines: Peter Dutton

Opposition leader Peter Dutton says the Albanese government has “signed up to the safety” of nuclear technology and the disposal of waste…

Nuclear will help ‘revitalise’ some ‘wilting’ towns: Peter Dutton

Opposition Leader Peter Dutton says his nuclear plan will help “revitalise” some towns which are “wilting” at the moment.

Australia has been a nuclear country since 1958: Peter Dutton

Opposition Leader Peter Dutton says Australia has been a nuclear country since 1958 because of the Lucas Heights reactor in New South Wales.

Labor’s ‘unreliable energy’ led to ‘three-fold increase’ in manufacturing firms closing

Opposition Leader Peter Dutton has slammed the Albanese government over a “three-fold increase” in manufacturing firms closing because of…

Coalition’s nuclear policy announcement has set up an ‘energy election’

Sky News host Laura Jayes says the Coalition’s recent nuclear policy announcement has set up an “energy election”.

Wow oh wow. I haven’t seen so much political excitement since Kerr booted Gough! The final one is fun because the aroma I’m getting is the punters are (a) not especially against nuclear (b) are ok with the on-coal-plant-sites model and (c) like the big swinging balls Dutton has just revealed. His come back against Malinauskas’ hypocrisy is nearly perfect, since Malinauskas agreed to an entire nuclear fuel industry for the subs.

What it also smells like to me is that Labor have just received some internal polling numbers on this issue that they really really do not like. Like the ones a few weeks ago on SMRs. When that happens they tend to explode with ad hominems all over the place…just like they are doing today.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 20, 2024 12:31 pm

Just a random thought.

But assuming Putin the shirtless is sourcing his artillery shells from home/China (I assume) and the Norks and apparently not suffering too much from shortages, while the Kiev/USA/EU seem to be having real trouble getting production up to parity (after a year) just what was the “west” counting on.
A formal slap of the glove to the face and an agreement to meet on the field in a decade?

I cant imagine the standard of Australian stocks.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
June 20, 2024 12:36 pm

I think somebody linked to below Substack article by Steve Kirsch already. However Kirsch gives concerning details about deaths in a US aged care after jab rollout. He was tipped off by a staff member. Deaths increased significantly after jabbing.

The COVID “vaccine” had no benefit. Zero. Zip. Nada.
Here’s official US government data, all in plain sight, so you can decide for yourself. If the vaccine reduced the risk of death, this data is simply impossible to explain.

So what do I hear on 4BC news today? Health Department concerned about low jab uptake in aged care and getting staff to go to aged homes to encourage keeping updated with jabs. So how many times does a resident have to say no or are they coerced by threats of isolation etc ? Anybody got a relative in a home and what is happening to them ?

Vicki
Vicki
June 20, 2024 12:37 pm

In her most provocative book yet, Dr. Naomi Wolf shows how these forces—from Big Tech and Big Pharma to the CCP and our oligarchical elites—seized upon two years of COVID-19 panic in sinister new ways, to not only undermine our Republic but to fundamentally reorient human relations.

I like and admire Naomi Wolf and much of her work – particularly her brave early stance against the mRNA vaccines when many were going along with the narrative.

However, I am still “out to lunch” on her theories (shared by many others) that the sinister forces of “Big” entities (Govt & Pharma & other major industries/corporations) were consciously carrying out plans to seriously affect human civilisation eg population reduction through Covid and/or the vaccines).

Call me naive, but I generally first suspect the frailties of mankind – the propensity to succumb to fear, survival instincts in the masses & the corresponding over reaction of the dominating institutions.

Of course, I don’t for one minute think that bureaucracies and polls alike will not exploit positions of power when such opportunities arise. And while political opportunists like to dismiss our fears as “conspiracy theories” – some of the more outlandish theories encourage this response.

However, at the end of the day, I might be wrong and we plebs are in great danger in the current era when Big Business and Big Pharma have common aims.

Bruce in WA
June 20, 2024 12:42 pm

I’d rather have a nuclear power plant in my backyard than the proposed “small” offshore wind farm off the south-west coast of WA.

Well, when I say small I mean it’s only 7600 sq km. Nothing, really …

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Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 20, 2024 12:45 pm

Tough job, but someone has to do it.

Collecting sex-crazed zombie cicadas on speed: Scientists track a bug-controlling super-sized fungus (Phys.org, 19 Jun)

With their bulging red eyes and their alien-like mating sound, periodical cicadas can seem scary and weird enough. But some of them really are sex-crazed zombies on speed, hijacked by a super-sized fungus.

West Virginia University mycology professor Matt Kasson, his 9-year-old son Oliver, and graduate student Angie Macias are tracking the nasty fungus, called Massospora cicadina. It is the only one on Earth that makes amphetamine—the drug called speed—in a critter when it takes over. And yes, the fungus takes control over the cicada, makes them hypersexual, looking to spread the parasite as a sexually transmitted disease.

I for one welcome our new super-sized fungus infected amphetamine-addicted sex-crazed zombie cicada overlords.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 20, 2024 12:57 pm

Who had “cicadapox linked to mardi gras week” on their bingo card?

Pogria
Pogria
June 20, 2024 1:00 pm

hahahaha,
I saw the Labor ad for the one-eyed dog, if we go ahead with Nuclear.
It’s a mega enlarged photo of a bed bug. That pic has been around for decades. snork!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 20, 2024 1:03 pm

Surfing news.

Surfing injects almost $3 billion into the Australian economy each year, research shows (Phys.org, 19 Jun)

It’s no secret Aussies love to surf. It’s one of our favorite pastimes, but it turns out riding the perfect wave offers more than just the ultimate thrill—it also provides a major boost to the economy, according to new research from The Australian National University (ANU).

Great to see ANU researching important topics with our taxpayers’ money. Meanwhile for any aspiring surfers who want to make history:

Researchers find wave activity on Titan may be strong enough to erode the coastlines of lakes and seas (Phys.org, 19 Jun)

Now, MIT geologists have studied Titan’s shorelines and shown through simulations that the moon’s large seas have likely been shaped by waves. 

There you go, you could be the first to surf the ethane seas of Titan. Might need a very light surfboard. And a spacesuit also.

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m0nty
m0nty
June 20, 2024 1:16 pm

Interesting thread from an engineer:

Glen @Gergyl

Mr Dutton has chosen Callide in Central Queensland as one of his putative ‘locations’ to build Federal Government nuclear power stations. Since I personally designed a number of the surface facilities on this site, thought you might be interested in a run-through.

It’s a congested, hilltop site. There are three power stations, two of which still operate, sometimes — Callide B and Callide C. Despite being separately owned, the generators for those two are actually co-located in the same extended shed. Here: https://google.com.au/maps/@-24.3407926,150.6195781,3079m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu

Image from this report: https://solarquotes.com.au/blog/callide-plant-investigation-mb2705/ on the Callide C turbine explosion, mark-up mine.

I suppose you could find a place there somewhere to put a 500-1000 MW nuclear unit — perhaps up near the old Callide A site, which plant has still not been demolished and rehabilitated, many years after it closed. (It was for a time used for abortive carbon capture experiments.)

This power station cluster is located where it is because it’s beside the Callide coal mine, now run by a little private operator called Batchfire Resources. The site has no other major advantages. https://google.com.au/maps/@-24.3212499,150.6091515,13059m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu

Actually it had significant disadvantages that needed to be overcome in the original design:

1. It’s a long way from the load centre in South East Queensland. Solved with strong grid connections — to Gladstone PS (then existing), Boyne Smelter, later Stanwell PS (Rockhampton).

Dutton is correct to view those as a current *advantage* of the site.

2. It’s in an important agricultural area, Callide Valley, with the available irrigation water supply (from two existing dams, Callide and Kroombit, and from groundwater) heavily overcommitted.

These are thirsty evaporatively cooled power stations (note the cooling towers above). They need lots of fresh water. That was solved, for Callide B and C at least, by a part-distance pipeline over the Great Dividing Range from Awoonga Dam near Gladstone.

A nuclear power station on this site would also be evaporatively cooled, and at least as thirsty.

3. The site is hard-adjacent to the upstream edge of the agriculturally important Callide Aquifer. Protecting it was a significant concern, and would also be for any nuclear unit.

It’s not widely appreciated that evaporatively cooled thermal power stations, coal-fired or nuclear, are significant generators of wastewater — not especially toxic wastewater, but *salty* (technically, ‘cooling tower blowdown’). That is generally just discharged, under licence.

At Callide that was not acceptable, because the downstream aquifer is already salty — too salty to irrigate some crops. So, unlike (then) every other power station in Australia, Callide was design for on-site salty wastewater disposal, via extensive hillside evaporation ponds.

There are now other ways to do that (reverse osmosis with brine crystallisation), which might be used for an evaporatively-cooled nuclear unit here.

Is this a good site for a nuclear power station (leaving aside that other question)? Not imo. This is the driest lived-on continent on Earth. Inland evaporatively-cooled thermal power stations (nuclear!) are immensely thirsty machines. That’s not a wise use of scarce fresh water.

shatterzzz
June 20, 2024 1:16 pm

Meanwhile, Jews will leave the UK, and slowly but surely the UK will become ‘Judenfrei’, which no doubt will make you and your comrades happy.

Very unlikely, the one element missing from all these “horror” stories is where it is happening .. and it ain’t happening in the one place you’d expect it to be .. GATESHEAD, Co. Durham, the town I was born in & grew up in .. As a kid in the 1950s/1960s Gateshead had the largest, area, Jewish population in the UK .. 27 000 out of 86 000 .. They had their own schools & a university .. The one thing missing was trouble .. tho there was little inter-action outside of shopping there and was no problems .. The Jews were a majority in 3 suburbs out of 10 .. My grandparents (Dad’s side) lived in a street with 90% Jewish occupancy and had a Jewish landlord for 25 years ..
No idea what the proportional occupancy is nowadayz but the schools, university & shops are still there and one my last visit (2016) the same 3 suburbs didn’t seem much changed .. Lotz more ethnicity around now (there was NONE as a kid) but wherever the ethnics are living but it hasn’t, really, impacted into the Jewish areas …
Mind, it is TOON-land and apart from “fitba” & “broon ale” very little intrudes into the Geordie way of life .. LOL!

Oh! .. and it is & alwayz has been staunch Labour-land ……..!

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John H.
John H.
June 20, 2024 1:17 pm

Vicki

 June 20, 2024 12:37 pm

In her most provocative book yet, Dr. Naomi Wolf shows how these forces—from Big Tech and Big Pharma to the CCP and our oligarchical elites—seized upon two years of COVID-19 panic in sinister new ways, to not only undermine our Republic but to fundamentally reorient human relations.

I like and admire Naomi Wolf and much of her work – particularly her brave early stance against the mRNA vaccines when many were going along with the narrative.

However, I am still “out to lunch” on her theories (shared by many others) that the sinister forces of “Big” entities (Govt & Pharma & other major industries/corporations) were consciously carrying out plans to seriously affect human civilisation eg population reduction through Covid and/or the vaccines).

Wolf is wrong about the population reduction strategy. That has been happening for decades and there is no clear answer for that. Corporations and governments prefer a growing population.

She is right about the dangers of corporate-government power. Last night I chanced upon a documentary on SBS On demand, The New Corporation, which is an updated version of The Corporation that was published long ago. The historical quirk is that The Corporation very much echoed left concerns about the dangers of corporate power while The New Corporation tends to echo more the concerns of the right but only in relation to Big Pharma and social media. Big Food is much more serious threat.

The right used to argue that private enterprise, small government, and all but eliminating the public service was the best way forward. That represents a foolish faith in human behavior, as if some magical hand and the higher quality of humans in private enterprise will lead us to the promised land. It is just as naive as the left believing government will solve everything. Where does that leave us? FIIK.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 20, 2024 1:26 pm

Miltonf, yes I live in canbra. No longer by choice but family. I openly admit it was a mistake to come here but a job offer doing interesting things not employed by government. Be grateful, wife taken on to get a project back on track thats building dragons. Her term for the stories people tell about the project. Everyone does whatever they feel like. She’s been told they’re scared of her for holding them to account. They didn’t want her coz she’s not one of them. Tell me which POS did you send to canbra. They just about come from everywhere else. Otherwise get effed.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 20, 2024 1:27 pm

To give you an idea of the size of individual wind projects on farmland.
Most are 25,000 hectares which equates to a 16×16 km block.
You could build most of Dutton’s nukes in one project area.
Renewables waste valuable land. The inefficiency of the wind and solar speaks for itself.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 20, 2024 1:28 pm

p.s. just about every job I’ve had is doing what other people are employed to do but for whatever reason can’t or won’t do. This includes the private sector or government.

shatterzzz
June 20, 2024 1:28 pm

Here’s one for the “techies” .. if you know what a”mouse jiggler’ is/does and want one but haven’t gotten around to buying a physical one .. here is a link to a “freebie” jiggler program …..
https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/mickey_1.html

cohenite
June 20, 2024 1:31 pm

Speaking of nuclear waste which energy source is the safest:

What are the safest and cleanest sources of energy? – Our World in Data

Chris
Chris
June 20, 2024 1:33 pm

m0nty

 June 20, 2024 1:24 pm

 Reply to  Bruce of Newcastle

He announced seven locations with no costings, no consultation, no ownership of the land, no buy-in from industry, no private investment, no realistic timelines, no plan for radioactive waste, no plan to overturn state bans, no support from premiers and no announcements of taxes to pay for it all.

Apart from that, very realistic.

So just like Labor announcing NDIS, NBN, Resource Supertax, Net Zero by 2030, Building the Education Revolution, Ceiling Insulation, subsidised solar, Khemlani Loans, their share of Virginia-class shared subs, WA gun laws, WA Aboriginal Heritage Act, live sheep shipping ban, and just about every major project Labor ever had a hand in whether real or just an announcement.
The corrupt sell-off of public assets under corrupt Labor governments did less harm than the clown shows of major projects in recent years.

cohenite
June 20, 2024 1:47 pm

m0nty
 June 20, 2024 1:16 pm

Interesting thread from an engineer:

Engineer my arse; like you he/she/it has no dick dickless. China has already built some new reactors like which Billy gates is building: they’re molten salt or helium cooled and don’t need water. So fuk off.

Roger
Roger
June 20, 2024 1:50 pm

Labor’s ‘unreliable energy’ led to ‘three-fold increase’ in manufacturing firms closing

Speaking of which, a gas supply shortage has resulted in a price spike and a crisis warning to the market from AEMO.

Victorian gas was yesterday sitting at 142% above Albo’s $12Gj “price cap.” That will flow through to this month’s electricity bill.

But the worst-case scenario is a coal plant going off-line before spring with no gas reserves to back up its generating capacity.

The government is apparently distracted by Dutton’s nuclear nightmare.

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Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 20, 2024 1:51 pm

How amazing! Who’d ever thunk this might happen, except for us recalcitrant knuckledragging Cats for only the last decade.

Emergency gas meeting as supplies tighten (Paywallian, 1 hour ago)

Australia’s energy market operator has warned fuel supplies are running tight and without urgent action there could be insufficient reserves for the rest of winter.

Hey Monty, get in here and explain to us how your holy-to-Gaia renewables will keep the lights on without gas back up.

2dogs
June 20, 2024 2:01 pm

Unsurprisingly, the ABC found their expert to whine about nuclear power

The ABC has a problem here. All of the actual factors that make Australia different in terms of nuclear power are actually in favour of it: geologically stable, access to fuel, etc. The only thing the GenCost report could hang its hat on was lack of “expertise”, which is kind of a circular argument, but anyway…

If it is the case that Australia does not have expertise, then it follows that whoever the ABC drags in can not be an expert.

Cassie of Sydney
June 20, 2024 2:06 pm

By the way, the next Prime Minister of the UK, Sir Keir Sturmer, was Director of Public Prosecutions in 2007 and 2008 when UK police carried out investigations into Jimmy Savile whilst he was still alive. Sturmer declined to prosecute.

However, just a few years later, Sturmer, always a greasy opportunist, did join in the lynching of well known conservatives politicians and celebrities, choosing to ‘believe’ the fantasist Carl Beech’s fabrications (whose fantastic fantasies were only ever directed against conservatives…odd that). Sturmer, a supposed lawyer, barrister, member of parliament, who’d once been Director of Public Prosecutions) decided to join in and trash that quaint old fashioned principle that is the presumption of innocence

As former Conservative MP, Harvey Proctor (himself a gay man), whose life was ruined by Beech, the media and many in UK Labour, says..

Starmer’s job as DPP was to uphold the law. Instead he overturned the basic principle of innocence until proven guilty. Starmer has questions to answer and apologies to make. To reiterate and assert what I said in Lord Ashcroft’s book, Red Knight, Sir Keir Starmer is not fit to be Prime Minister. He is not fit to be a Leader of the Opposition; he should not grace the benches of the House of Commons.

Whist the decent men and women of the UK don’t deserve what’s coming, the Tories most certainly deserve electoral Armageddon.

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Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
June 20, 2024 2:15 pm

via Rosie. June 20, 2024 8:02 am

A clip of Douglas Murray at the debate

https://x.com/AvivaKlompas/status/1803157927257088092?t=zlFmcQIrKH9VojO8zZj6IA&s=19

One slight problem with Murray’s hypothetical challenge to Hasan. Even if Hamas returned the hostages tomorrow the war would not be over. Israel’s stated goal was the elimination of Hamas.
Otherwise an excellent retort from Murray.

Rosie
Rosie
June 20, 2024 2:21 pm

Naomi Wolf could ponder her own decision to have just two children before pronouncing about population control.

You are right John, it’s been happening for decades, some people call it ‘The Pill’.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 20, 2024 2:32 pm

I see Dim Chalmers claims to have to have been shown going to nukyulah will not reduce the price of electricity.

I will wager that one of the assumptions in the underlying calculations is that we at the same time remain wedded to ruinables, and thus the mushrooming cost of ruinables is implicitly (because explicitly would lay their shenanigans bare) being heaped upon nuke.

i Gather Dutton is also talking about nuclear infrastructure being kept as government assets. I wonder if part of this is to sidestep the inevitable campaigns by left wing astroturfers to frighten financial institutions off providing capital to private ventures. Like they have been doing to stop investment in coal and gas. Labor and the unions will be desperate as nuclear would render their ruinable investments near useless the moment someone realises we can just use nuclear 24/7 far more cheaply than also maintaining the ruinable garbage.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 20, 2024 2:33 pm

Smashed avo strikes back.

Summer fruit injuries are real. Here’s how to prevent and treat avocado hand, watermelon wounds and lime burns. (19 Jun, via Instapundit)

Similar to avocado hand, treatment for a watermelon wound begins with applying pressure to the area, followed by cleaning the wound, applying an antiseptic and bandaging, says Whyte. …

How to avoid an injury: If possible, avoid juicing limes and lemons into your cocktails and salads outside during the daylight hours, and if you get any citrus juice on your skin, wash it off with soap and water immediately. Also keep in mind that knowledge is power, says Torbati.

There you go Cats, it’s official. Knowledge is power. That will let you save yourselves from horrific attacks by avocados, watermelons and daylight-enraged citrus fruits.

Zatara
Zatara
June 20, 2024 2:37 pm

Japan Granted Asylum to Just 303 People Last Year, Rejecting 98% of Applicants.

Even with a declining population issue Japan understands what polluting their culture with masses of country shoppers would mean. If only the west had paid more attention to their example.

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Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 20, 2024 2:41 pm

Oh, and keeping newk as a government asset has the additional benefit as far as selling the Australian people on it: How long has the left harped on about the injustice of the old state owned energy assets being privatised.

A nonsense, of course. While it is true that public assets were sold it was to help pay for public debt racked up in Joe Public’s name, and until the AGW and ruinable scams were inflicted upon us the privatised power was going fine.

So, Dutton could play upon Labor’s cherished claim that power should be government owned.

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Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 20, 2024 2:45 pm

Litres per MW/h cooling.
Coal fired – 2,910
Nuclear – 3,160

Not much in it despite Monty’s quoted expert claiming water as a big issue.
Next to the sea is best as you can run a once through cooling system.

Pogria
Pogria
June 20, 2024 2:50 pm

Has anyone seen the piece about Antoinette Lavosh putting herself forward for Paul Barry’s spot at Media Watch?

It’s so absurd, The ALPBC may actually do it.
Anything for clicks, eh Lavosh?

Lysander
Lysander
June 20, 2024 2:57 pm

With Nooclear being so evil, Muntard obviously doesn’t have/use/care for:

Smoke detectors (in his basement), never uses diagnostic imaging (Xrays, SPECTs, dentistry etc.), radiotherapy, doesn’t eat food (irradiation), drink water (where isotopes regularly used to trace pollutants), does care for carbon dating, doesn’t care for new developments in physics through particle accelerators, nor discoveries beyond in space rovers that use nuke power, sterilisation of equipment; both medical and industrial, preservation of artefacts via gamma radiation, medical tracer techniques, use of isotopes to detect atmospheric pollution, sterilisation of male pests (could come in handy Munt), emergency exit signs, watch dials and luminscent paint, CT scans, scientific research in universities, brachytherapy for (his ass) cancer patients, blood irradiators, quality control in paper mills, cosmic radiation detection in aeroplanes, irradiated surgical gloves, food packaging materials, forensic analysis, cancer research, soil erosion research, DNA analysis, analysis of ancient climates, space weather monitoring…

So Munted, let’s hope you never need a doctor, dentist, water, food, paper, climate studies, degree in anything, science or breathing (last one preferable).

Lysander
Lysander
June 20, 2024 2:58 pm

So, Australia is not the only one then:

Philippines accuses Chinese coast guard of boarding and ramming its navy vessels in South China Sea

The Philippine military says the Chinese coast guard has rammed and boarded Filipino navy boats in a violent confrontation in the South China Sea in which a Filipino sailor lost a thumb.

Monday’s incident was the latest in a series of escalating confrontations between Chinese and Philippine ships in recent months as Beijing stepped up efforts to push its claims to the disputed area.

Philippines accuses Chinese coast guard of boarding and ramming its navy vessels in South China Sea – ABC News

Lysander
Lysander
June 20, 2024 3:05 pm
Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 20, 2024 3:10 pm

Japan Granted Asylum to Just 303 People Last Year, Rejecting 98% of Applicants.

It ought be remembered that this is not just like any 303 of our motley intake – it should be thought of as the top 303.

But even that does not quite capture it as those applying to Japan would be applying to a country which does not just hand out goodies for lucky winners, whereas we are just a great drain that people swirl around and fall into more from our gravity than their energy.

Japan’s top 303 would be a better calibre (303. Calibre. Geddit?) than ours.

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Bourne1879
Bourne1879
June 20, 2024 3:17 pm

From the Courier Mail. He has 869 cars and 363 motor bikes. Seems the locals were not in favour. I am not a car enthusiast myself but you would think a tourist attraction like that would be welcome in most places particularly when he was paying for it, on his own land and no doubt would promote it.

“Clive Palmer withdraws car museum proposal for Yaroomba car museum resort
Clive Palmer has withdrawn his application for a hugely controversial, enormous, luxury car museum, labelled an “eyesore” by Sunshine Coast locals”.

So what does he do with the cars ?

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
June 20, 2024 3:21 pm

Bruce got a link to the source of that LCOE table from yesterday?

I am about to engage with a troll on another forum.

Some links on how they rarely meet capacity and total carbon footprints of said farms would be nice as well.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 20, 2024 3:32 pm

Bruce got a link to the source of that LCOE table from yesterday?

RD – Here you go.

The True Cost of Wind and Solar | Power Line (3 Apr)

The data comes from this article which Hinderaker links:

How to destroy the myth of cheap wind and solar (3 Apr)

There’s a link in the latter to a PDF of their study. I haven’t looked into their assumptions, but the graph I posted is consistent with other studies I’ve seen.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 20, 2024 3:34 pm

Comment, from the Oz, on the nuclear power issue.

Mike

3 minutes ago
Even South Africa, now a third world country, started its nuclear initiative in 1976 and has had reliable nuclear power for over 35 years – and we lily livered Australians still hiding under a rock.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 20, 2024 3:36 pm

I ordered a (madder silk) tie and a (wool silk) pocket square from the US on Tuesday.

They are being sent by FedEx.

Already they have gone from the warehouse Minneapolis to Honolulu.

The expected date of delivery is Monday, 24 June.

That is what FedEx predicts. Poor, naive fools.

They will likely get to Mascot tomorrow, then to be passed into the achingly slow machinations of Aussie Post. Although Mascot is scarce 10km from here and Sydney not entirely without Aussie Post facilities, I expect the package to be sent from Mascot to that whirling black hole facility in Victoria where time dilation racks up days before the package ventures back north to Sydney. I expect an extra week.

FedEx may have the world at their fingertips, but they do not know Australia.

Last edited 5 months ago by Mother Lode
Muddy
Muddy
June 20, 2024 3:39 pm

An extract from Mother Lode’s 3:10 p.m. post re immigration:

…we are just a great drain that people swirl around and fall into more from our gravity than their energy.

We are certainly keen on the hobby of do-it-yourself disembowelment.

Rosie
Rosie
June 20, 2024 3:41 pm

“Israel’s stated goal was the elimination of Hamas.”
RenderingHamas much less able to wage war would be the realistic option.
Destroy its physical infrastructure most importantly its smuggling tunnels.

m0nty
m0nty
June 20, 2024 3:48 pm

A comprehensive demolition of the source of Bruce’s favourite LCOE graph.

The Clean Energy Alliance and the Center of the American Experience cherry-picked data to trick Minnesotans into believing that wind energy is expensive, unreliable, and environmentally unhelpful. In reality, wind energy is the cheapest form of energy in the upper Midwest, it is being reliably integrated in the region and across the U.S., and it is a significant contributor to carbon emissions avoidance. In short, wind is a good deal for Minnesotans.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
June 20, 2024 3:48 pm

Just finished reading Brendan Nelson’s autobiography covering the period from childhood, as a practicing GP, as president of the AMA, to federal politics, minister for Health then Defence and leader of the Liberal party in opposition, to ambassador to the EU, director of the Australian War Memorial and then to CEO of Boeing Australia.

Of Life And Of Leadership.

While not viewed though the critical eye of an outsider, he impresses me as a man of honesty and integrity with principles adhered to although leaning slightly left on issues regarding health matters and also aborigines.

Until reading it I didn’t appreciate how much he had achieved in his life.

He sussed out the character of Turnbull early in his political career and, while he didn’t exactly call him an arrogant, narcissistic, back stabbing Cnut – Cats and Kittehs reading between the lines will know that’s exactly what he was saying.

Thoroughly recommended reading.

Zatara
Zatara
June 20, 2024 3:59 pm

The Wealthy Are Fleeing London. Here’s Why…

Millionaires are fleeing Britain faster than any country except China, amid concerns over a likely Labour victory in the upcoming July 4 snap election. The Henley Private Wealth Migration Report reveals that 9,500 millionaires left Britain last year, with only China seeing a higher number of departures.

Many high-net-worth individuals (around 20 percent) who relocate are entrepreneurs and company founders, often creating local jobs in their new countries. This percentage rises to over 60 percent for centi-millionaires and billionaires.

Brexit Part Deux – The Flight of the Golden Geese?

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