Open Thread – Mon 24 June 2024


Villa by the Sea, Arnold Böcklin, 1865

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Rosie
Rosie
June 26, 2024 10:46 am

I’m not surprised about range anxiety.
It’s one thing to ooh aah about a trip from Melbourne to Magnetic Island when you have no time constraints, another when you have to pick up a child from preschool and get to a doctor’s appointment and the red light is flashing.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 26, 2024 10:46 am

Cronkite at 10:43
I note you neatly avoid any reference to birth defects in aquatic animals.
Hmmmm.

Oh come on
Oh come on
June 26, 2024 10:48 am

Gotta say, I like the cut of Justice Croucher’s jib. I like how he didn’t put up with the prosecution’s shenanigans. I prefer a judge who will err on the side of the accused when it comes to what evidence the prosecution is allowed to adduce or present. This befits the fact that the accused is presumed innocent and should be treated as such. I liked the instructions to the jury – ‘there are many paths to acquittal but only one narrow path to conviction’ or whatever he said. That’s a good encapsulation of the standard required to convict.

It was an interesting case. Ordinarily, you wouldn’t expect the accused to give witness testimony, but given he was the only witness to two deaths in extremely unusual circumstances (if his version of events was accepted), perhaps that version had to be heard from him.

Or perhaps he’s a dark triad type whose narcissism meant he believed he would be so compelling on the stand that the jury would not be able to resist falling for his story, and he insisted on testifying.

In all honesty, this is one of those cases where even if he didn’t commit murder per se, I’m still not unhappy that he’s going to be in a cell for the next 20+ years. Someone who was willing to do what he did to the bodies of those two people shouldn’t be roaming the streets.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 26, 2024 10:55 am

Rosie
 June 26, 2024 10:46 am

I’m not surprised about range anxiety.

And it is not just restricted to ladies, either.
A chap I know does commentary for local sports, and gets a sponsors car for out of town assignments. He picks up an EV on Saturday for the 150 km round trip with three burly ex footballers on board.
Range shows nearly 300 km.
No problems.
About halfway into the outbound trip the meter dropped dramatically and tells him he won’t make it there and back. There is no charger in the little rural town they are headed for, so it involved limping on another 30 kms in the wrong direction after the game to find a charger and waiting for the battery to charge.
The advice when they rang the dealer?
“Dunno. Turn off the heater and radio and slow down.”
The joys of EV motoring.
Toad of Toad Hall would not approve.

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Eyrie
Eyrie
June 26, 2024 10:55 am

I’m for building enough nukes to cope with Australia’s peak load plus a bit. When not required to keep the lights on and industry running, desalinate water and drought proof the place as well as pump it inland.

Rosie
Rosie
June 26, 2024 10:56 am

I agree; it’s immensely frustrating that there is any discussion about wind, solar, nuclear, pushing water uphill when we have an abundant supply of coal that we are exporting.
Frankly, it’s nuts.

Indolent
Indolent
June 26, 2024 10:58 am
Vicki
Vicki
June 26, 2024 10:59 am

There are a couple of interesting articles (one by Ramesh Thakur, as I recall) on the dilemma many conservatives have in respect to Julian Assange. We see this in the last 24 hours as many conservatives are applauding his return to Oz. Basically, it is a conflict between the principles of freedom of speech and actual espionage.I think it is a no-brainer when military engagement of our troops are involved. Others disagree.

But I also suspect that many of Assange’s casual supporters have not closely followed his career.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 26, 2024 11:02 am

Oh come on
 June 26, 2024 10:48 am

Gotta say, I like the cut of Justice Croucher’s jib. I like how he didn’t put up with the prosecution’s shenanigans. I prefer a judge who will err on the side of the accused when it comes to what evidence the prosecution is allowed to adduce or present. This befits the fact that the accused is presumed innocent and should be treated as such.

Me?
Not so much.
The presumption of innocence is one thing.
But Croucher went overboard to scrub evidence which was unfavourable to Lynn, but entirely relevant.
He has very keen to jump all over the prosecution for merely putting forward their case theory, but allowed the defence to put totally unsupported claims of “planted evidence” which was simply a throwaway line to cast doubt which wouldn’t otherwise exist.

Chris
Chris
June 26, 2024 11:07 am

One really good aspect to keeping coal in the ground is that when everyone pushing decarbonation grows up or dies, Australia might have preserved some lower-cost reserves. Every other country (egs China, UK, Germany) is scraping up scraps at minimal profit!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 26, 2024 11:08 am

Um, maybe guys you were doing it wrong.

Popular pub collapses owing more than $1m, just 63c left in bank account (26 Jun)

The iconic Carringbush Hotel, in the inner Melbourne suburb of Abbotsford, stopped trading at the start of June before being placed into liquidation just two days later.

The pub group’s owners had cited “horrendous” expenses as the reason behind its closure, adding they would need to charge a whopping $20 for a single beer to survive. …

The 135-year-old pub had announced on Facebook on May 27 its was closing its doors for good after five and a half “amazing years”.

“Like most, we are feeling the current financial pinch and instead of running the gauntlet we have decided to go out on a high,” its post read.

“We have the best group of staff, locals and regulars and to all of you, thanks for everything. We would love to see as many of you as possible this week for one hell of a huge party, then again on Sunday for a few bloody Marys for our last day of trade.

“From today we will not be taking any more bookings. Walk-ins only. Our menu will slowly wind down and the taps are running dry.”

The pub had offered a vegan menu with burgers costing $28.

That’s the perfect hook to bring in punters in their thousands! A $28 vegan burger and a $20 schooner, yum!

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 26, 2024 11:09 am

Rosie
 June 25, 2024 4:44 pm

You are right Cassie, long odds against your wife dying in suspicious circumstances then being involved in a double ‘accidental’ deaths.

Quite right rosie, but coincidences do happen – there’s the case of the poor bastard who has been struck by lightning 7 times and lived!

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johanna
johanna
June 26, 2024 11:28 am

Washing clothes in a machine shortens their life, and (apart from knickers) the notion that anything worn once needs to be washed has no basis except for a cultural one.

It’s a bit like the famous ‘rinse and repeat’ admonition on shampoo bottles, which was probably the most brilliant marketing ploy of the C20th.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 26, 2024 11:42 am

Federal PoliticsAustralia

Coalition slams Prime Minister for not expelling rogue Labor Senator Fatima Payman
Ellen RansleyThe Nightly
Wed, 26 June 2024 8:51AM

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The Coalition have accused Prime Minister Anthony Albanese of “weak leadership” after Labor confirmed renegade senator Fatima Payman wouldn’t be suspended or expelled for voting against the party.
The 29-year-old first-term West Australian senator sent shockwaves through the party on Tuesday when she broke Labor Party rules to vote in favour of a Greens motion calling for Palestinian statehood.
It was the first time a Labor politician crossed the floor while in government since 1986, and Senator Payman risked suspension or expulsion from the ALP because party rules state that all members must vote in line with the caucus’ position.
But Deputy Prime Minister Richard Marles has confirmed Senator Payman won’t be punished with either of those actions, prompting the Liberal Party to accuse its opponents of being weak.

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“What on earth is going on here on the floor of the Senate? We’ve got Labor senators on both sides of the debate,” deputy Liberal leader Sussan Ley said on Wednesday morning.
“It’s effectively a green light to Labor senators that if you feel strongly about an issue, you can cross the floor.
“So the shield of caucus solidarity is gone, and no one has crossed the floor in Labor since 1986. It’s clearly not Labor Party policy.”

Liberal senator James Paterson had earlier said allowing Senator Payman to stay in the party was a failure of Mr Albanese.
“This is a direct challenge to his authority as Labor leader. And if he fails that, if there are no consequences for Senator Payman, then not just in your eyes, and my eyes, will he be a weak Prime Minister — but in the eyes of his own caucus members,” Senator Paterson said.
“So if she can get away with this, then every other Labor MP and Senator will be thinking, well, maybe I can get away with this in the future. And his authority over the party will be completely shattered.”
Mr Marles said while crossing the floor was a “significant issue”, now was not the time to be “going around expelling people because they’re expressing a particular opinion”.
“I think if you were to ask Senator Payman, she would say it was a very significant issue,” Mr Marles told ABC Radio.
“There isn’t a mandated consequence for this within our rules. It’s actually not with our precedent, and we’re going to handle this in a sensible and a mature way.”
Liberal senator James Paterson said if Senator Payman was allowed to stay in the party, it was a failure of Prime Minister Anthony Albanese.
Both the Government and Opposition attempted to amend the Greens’ motion on Tuesday afternoon, and Senator Payman sat with advisors as a number of procedural votes took place.

Eyrie
Eyrie
June 26, 2024 11:42 am

I think it is a no-brainer when military engagement of our troops are involved. 

We were at war were we? I must have missed the formal declaration of War.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
June 26, 2024 11:47 am

Below is an article headline from Brisbane Times.
Seems to be a distortion of Tuckers view. I would think he is more along the lines of money can be better spent in US and why support a corrupt regime. Plus US basically pushed Putin for last 8 years. A bit like Farages view for which the media jumped on him.
Seems can’t criticise involvement in Ukraine without being considered a Putin apologist.

“He’s ‘rooting’ for Putin’s war in Ukraine: How did Tucker Carlson get an Australian visa?”

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 26, 2024 12:05 pm

But Deputy Prime Minister Richard Marles has confirmed Senator Payman won’t be punished with either of those actions

Marles says it’s really really really complicated.

‘Difficult issue’: Senator Fatima Payman to stay in Labor despite crossing the floor on motion to recognise Palestinian statehood, says Deputy PM Richard Marles (Sky News, 26 Jun)

A really really really difficult issue! I wonder if Tony Burqa had a word with Mr Marles about how really really really difficult the issue is?

I hope the Libs keep hammering Labor on this abject hypocrisy and antisemitism day after day. It would be the perfect political counter to “three eyed fish”.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 26, 2024 12:06 pm

Roger @ 7:47

Under AEMO’s “step change” or most likely, scenario, gas-­powered generation would increase from 11.5GW now to 15GW in 2050, while electricity consumption would nearly double from 174TWh to 313TWh. Distributed solar, including rooftop, would increase fourfold from 21GW to 86GW and grid-scale wind and solar would increase six-fold from 21GW to 127GW. Storage capacity, such as batteries and pumped hydro, would jump from 3GW now to 49GW in 2050.

Behold, the power of mismatched units.

The assumed 2050 electricity consumption of 313TWh adds up to 35.7GW per annum.

Apparently according to AEMO, this 35.7GW of demand is going to be supplied by:

• 86GW of distributed solar; plus
• 127GW of grid scale wind and solar
• 15GW of gas turbines

All backed up by 49GW of storage (not immediately clear what this means in terms of GW hours).

And 10,000km of new grid infrastructure.

About $500bn of forward investment (discounting the Snowy 2.0 factor and pesky farmers and assuming all rolls out as per the Excel spreadsheet).

About $14bn per delivered GW.
(Which may not be available 24/7, depending on seasonality and time of day.)

How capitally efficient is all that?

(See what they did there?)

johanna
johanna
June 26, 2024 12:08 pm

True.

There are many documented cases of people who have awful runs of bad luck.

That’s why Napoleon wanted his appointees to be ‘lucky.’

BTW, I regard myself as one of the ‘lucky’ ones. Looking back, from riding on motorbikes and in cars at, let’s say, ‘exhilarating’ speeds, to sampling drugs, to one night stands, to catching trains late at night in Sydney – and they’re just the ones I remember.

Mind you, I’m a lot more cautious nowadays. Luck is all very well when you are young, and handy when you are old. But, there is no harm in hedging your bets.

Oh come on
Oh come on
June 26, 2024 12:29 pm

People here are down on Assange?

I can’t see how you could live through the Trump Presidency and not realise that the people Assange exposed desperately needed – and continue to need – an extended spell of sunlight. No one has directed more sunlight on these people than Assange.

Rosie
Rosie
June 26, 2024 12:34 pm

Oh please, what had lightning got to do with a man who repeatedly threatened to kill his wife, and then she was dead in suspicious circumstances, then was involved in the death of two people where he admitted eradicating evidence burning, raking and making it impossible to determine the cause of death of at least one of the two victims.
Neither of these circumstances were ‘acts of God’.

Oh come on
Oh come on
June 26, 2024 12:39 pm

But Croucher went overboard to scrub evidence which was unfavourable to Lynn, but entirely relevant.

Which evidence are you referring to?

He has very keen to jump all over the prosecution for merely putting forward their case theory, but allowed the defence to put totally unsupported claims of “planted evidence” which was simply a throwaway line to cast doubt which wouldn’t otherwise exist.

Well, it was a bit more than a case theory – it was kind of a wild extrapolation. The defence is allowed to do this (even though it generally doesn’t play well with juries) because the job of the defence when the accused has pleaded Not Guilty is to do whatever it takes* to get to that verdict. The prosecution’s job is not to secure a conviction – it is to act in the interest of justice. So, in theory, it is held to a higher standard with regard to what it can present to the court.

*short of knowingly misleading the court. Speculation, even wild speculation, doesn’t meet this mark.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
June 26, 2024 12:43 pm

From post on prostate cancer treatment by shaterzzz @09:51am and others embedded to his post.

I was diagnosed with prostate cancer 2nd half of 2021 and commenced quarterly hormone injections in November that year for two years. Then radiation treatment over 3 months commencing March 2022 – 39 treatments.

Suffered radiation proctitis October 2022 to March 2023. Treatment included 3 colonoscopies and blood transfusions and diathermy. Fixed the problem.

Then June 2024 hit with radiation cystitis – 3 admissions via Emergency over 14 days until finally to theatre for cystoscopy/diathermy.

Hopefully that’s the end of it – didn’t enjoy the catheter with leg bag! If not, to Sydney for Hyperbaric Medicine treatment.

The Urologist who confirmed the prostate cancer, after scans/biopsy, recommended against prostate removal and opted for hormone/radiation treatment. A senior medical professor also told me to get a second opinion if prostate removal was the recommended treatment. Both seemed to be of the opinion that surgical removal of the prostate was a path chosen too easily by some.

Best wishes for your journey shaterzzz.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 26, 2024 12:51 pm

Good news everyone!!

Sicktoria has solved crime!
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2024/jun/26/australia-politics-live-labor-coalition-greens-parliament-julian-assange-saipan-wikileaks-fatima-payman-anthony-albanese-peter-dutton-nuclear-emissions-newington-question-time
In Victorian political news, AAP reports the Victorian government will be shutting two prisons:
Victoria will close two prisons, including a privately-run maximum security one, and shift inmates to a $1.1 billion facility that has been sitting idle for almost two years.
Port Phillip Prison will close by the end of 2025 and the 59-year-old Dhurringile Prison will close within months, Corrections Minister Enver Erdogan announced on Wednesday.
Port Phillip Prison is privately operated by G4S and has been open since September 1997 with a capacity of 1087 inmates.
The state’s contract with G4S was renewed in 2015 and agreement extensions were expected to continue for 20 years, depending on performance.
Workers at both closing prisons will be given the opportunity to work elsewhere within Victoria’s justice system.
Inmates at Dhurringile will likely move to the Beechworth minimum security prison.

?

johanna
johanna
June 26, 2024 12:51 pm

Amid all the arguments about purchasing submarines, Billy Connolly nailed it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qvFxFVRcRo

Don’t know how to put a series of hearts …

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 26, 2024 12:58 pm

Don’t particularly like Assange but he did cause considerable embarrassment to the lesbian bitch in 2016 iirc.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 26, 2024 1:00 pm

Roger:

Australia faces power blackouts unless regional communities back the acceleration of renewable ­energy and construction of 10,000km of transmission lines, with authorities raising the alarm that not enough green electricity will be built before coal exits the grid by 2038.

As many Cats suggested/foretold, the plan is coming undone at the implementation stage, and the people responsible are blaming us – the very people who have been pointing out the problems and trying to get the government to treat the project as an engineering problem, not a political one.
The difference is that the authors of the plan have been -in the main – advised by the university eye candy in their offices instead of the old fart Engineers who foretold this unfolding disaster decades ago.

The Australian Energy Market Operator’s 25-year road map to shift the National Electricity Market to net-zero emissions was ­released as the Albanese government approved its second gas ­extraction project, giving the green light to 151 coal seam gas wells in Queensland under the $1bn Senex Energy Atlas project.

Too little, and WAY too late.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 26, 2024 1:16 pm

Apparently according to AEMO, this 35.7GW of demand is going to be supplied by:

• 86GW of distributed solar; plus

• 127GW of grid scale wind and solar

• 15GW of gas turbines

All backed up by 49GW of storage (not immediately clear what this means in terms of GW hours).

And 10,000km of new grid infrastructure.

So, to deliver some 36GW of capacity, we will need 15GW of reliable gas, 213 GW of intermittent ruinables and 49GW of “storage”.

Take off the 15GW of reliable gas, and the build will be 213GW of ruinables (replaced every 20 or so years) and 49GW of storage (which will also need regular replacement) to provide 31GW of actual capacity, or almost a seven times overbuild of ruinables, plus a lot of storage and 10,000 Kms of transmission lines.

And they claim that nuclear is too expensive!

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Vicki
Vicki
June 26, 2024 1:17 pm

Stumbling Into Ruin
Reflections on senescence, amnesia, and war. JOHN LEAKE
JUN 24
 
Recently I reread Paul Kennedy’s The Rise and Fall of the Great Powers: Economic Change and Military Conflict from 1500 to 2000. 
A consistent theme throughout the book is how great powers often fall when their military ambitions surpass their capabilities—that is, great powers have always had a tendency to overestimate themselves and underestimate their rivals. 

Chapter 5 details to the run-up to World War I, and how every power in Europe failed to understand the sheer scope of the cataclysm they would unleash when they committed to war in 1914. In spite of possessing far greater general education and knowledge of history than today’s pitiful crop of politicians, the leaders of Europe in 1914 miscalculated everything. At the war’s conclusion four years later, the disaster had claimed 20 million lives and wounded 21 million others. 

The war started when ranking members of the Hapsburg Court in Vienna issued an unfulfillable ultimatum to the Kingdom of Serbia, and it concluded with the end of the Hapsburg dynasty’s rule since 1282. 

I woke up this morning to reports of an attack on a beach resort in Sevastopol (Crimea) with five US-supplied ATACMS tactical missiles, fired from Ukrainian territorythat killed three people and wounded over 100. And so, it seems, the U.S. and Nato continue on the path of escalation. 
I wonder if the people featured in the following video know what they are getting themselves into. Are they acquainted with the history of the 1900-1914 period, and recognize the eery resemblance it bears to the current situation in Europe?

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BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 26, 2024 1:19 pm

Ted Cruz on a Senate Judicial Nomination goes nuts on the Communist representative and catches her out on multiple lies she’s told.
She’s a Democrat nominee for a Judges position. The Radicals have taken over the US Government.

Crossie
Crossie
June 26, 2024 1:24 pm

Just realised that the “e” fell off the end of my name in previous comments, now corrected.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 26, 2024 1:41 pm

Recommended reading for those who think Greg Lynn was hard done by (sorry can’t link).
What jurors in Greg Lynn’s trial over the deaths of two Victorian campers weren’t told
abc.net.au
As per Rosie’s comment, Lynn had a history of gratuitous violence towards animals. There are long standing proven links between extreme animal cruelty as exhibited by Lynn, and the sort of psychopathy which leads someone to commit murder over a relatively minor slight.
Why could this not be advanced in evidence?
Whether or not he murdered his first wife is as yet unknown, but there was significant evidence of his OTT rage and threatening behaviour at the merest trigger.
Again, why is that inadmissible?
Croucher tried to throw the murder case out right at the start by having it downgraded to manslaughter. The Court of Appeal knocked him back on that one. Next minute, he is taking manslaughter off the table mid-trial, saying it is murder or nothing, confident in his belief murder wouldn’t get up.
Thank Christ the jury tipped him over on at least one count.
I don’t like Lynn’s chances on appeal. And he now has a likely coronial inquest into the death of his first wife to deal with.

m0nty
m0nty
June 26, 2024 1:43 pm

I doubt you lot would enjoy it if AEMO actually did the sums on a realistic budget and timeframe for Dutton’s Snowy 3.0 and the Seven Radiation-Stunted White Elephants.

I also doubt that anyone living close to a nuke plant would enjoy it if an EMP was successfully deployed overhead.

Crossie
Crossie
June 26, 2024 1:46 pm

Wind would dominate installations through to 2030, complementing rooftop solar, and by 2050 grid-scale solar would contribute 58GW and wind 69GW.

The plan would cost $122bn to 2050.

Seven nuclear power stations would cost half that much and not scar the landscape or require that amount again every twenty years when solar panels and wind turbines will need replacing. Nuclear reactors would not need replacing for a century. Our leaders are illiterate and innumerate so we have no hope but to go bankrupt.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 26, 2024 1:53 pm
Top Ender
Top Ender
June 26, 2024 1:58 pm

Postcard from Tunisia Part 2
 
Some of the Tunisia houses and hotels are built “inside-out” – the exterior is a two or three storey wall all around, and once inside there is a central atrium with a courtyard in the middle. A good way of achieving peace. Usually, the roof is utilized for clothes drying and outside recreation space. 
 
Sousse had its ancient walls from more than 1000 years ago, but in one place a big gap had been smashed by WWII bombing raids, so it was left that way. There was much fighting between the Allies and the Axis around the whole area.  We stayed in a very pleasant place with an interior courtyard, as many houses and hotels have, with the rooms up winding stone staircases.

Went on a walk around the local souk and came across a pro-Palestinian demonstration going on. About 400 people and lots of chanting. 
 
From Mrs TE now:
 
Went to their local beach – very busy with thousands at play. Only a few burka neck to ankle swimmers.  Most women wore a scarf or hijab, but I was surprised to see “local” girls throughout Tunisia in shorts, off the shoulder tops, and some bellies bared.  Noted a few women bike and car drivers.  Men rule at the coffee shops – not a woman to be seen.  There are “sports bars” – men only smoking cigarettes/hookah, drinking coffee, chatting inside aircon.  Cigarettes are drug of choice and cheap – there are overwhelming male numbers (not women). Call to prayer happens five times a day – and night. TE was woken a few times at 3am.
 
One of the highlights has been that we have stayed in some stunning hotels and airbnb’s.  The tiles, colour, furnishings, carpet, paintings, marble, antiques and distinctive architecture has been a delight. Some very tiny doorways – watch your head!  The courtyards and rooftops with potted plants have been wonderful to relax in. Our breakfasts have been local food, plentiful and varied.  Unique boutique accommodation costing about $200 Australian at most expensive.
 
Went further south to Mahdia, another seaside place. The transport to get there was by “louage” – a system of vans and drivers. Buy your ticket (a bun fight), get in and it goes when all seats taken – very cheap.   We arrived alive! The city was worth seeing for its 12C fort and the surrounding cemetery dating back hundreds of years – all facing Mecca – as well as the beaches. 
 
An oddity on leaving. It’s illegal to take dinars – the currency – out of the country so what to do? Obviously buy up what you need, but there’s always something left. Two of us gave the airport cleaners what we had left, and there were others doing that too. Very strange “closed currency” concept.

TE’s conclusion: not sure about Tunisia. Much to dislike, but still a lot worth seeing. 

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
June 26, 2024 2:15 pm

Albo gets up to speak in parliament, and the number one problem isn’t the economy, with inflation on the rise again. It’s not the energy crisis which is stripping Australia of manufacturing and affordable reliable energy – such that we can look forward to a barista led recovery followed by IKEA flat pack challenges. No, it’s Peter Dutton.

Kneel
Kneel
June 26, 2024 2:21 pm

“Albo gets up to speak in parliament, and the number one problem isn’t …
No, it’s Peter Dutton.”

Well, of course it is! Without that pesky opposition, he’d be able to foist his green utopian plans upon the plebs – he knows best, just shut up and let him help you! You don’t need to bother your head with all that pesky stuff, we’ve considered it long and hard, just get out of our way and let us do it to you, er, do it for you, yes, for you.

Figures
Figures
June 26, 2024 2:27 pm

CPI at 4 per cent.

Will Monty come here and blame Menzies, Thatcher, Pinochet and the moon being in the wrong phase?

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
June 26, 2024 2:33 pm

I think John Anderson said this morning that a number of institutions preferred to report what the government wanted them to, which is another way of saying they’ve been “marched through”.
AEMO, BoM, CSIRO and most of the media come to mind.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 26, 2024 2:39 pm

Someone quoted the learned jurdge in the Lynn case as saying “there are many paths to acquittal but only one narrow path to conviction”.
It is more correct to say “There is only one path of plausible truth. You will not be able to see all elements along that pathway, but if you see enough to convince you of guilt – beyond reasonable doubt – you must convict. If not, you must acquit”.
This “many paths to acquittal” line is utter bullshit in this case. Lynn very unwisely (but in keeping with his narcissistic personality) took to the stand and gave his account. Therefore there was only one path to acquittal. You either believe his story or you don’t. He admitted he was responsible for the deaths, but ran the line of self defence in the case of Hill, and accidental shooting in the case of Clay. It is fairly clear this was a compromise verdict. I suspect a good number of jurors wanted to convict on both counts. They conceded Lynn the possibility of self defence in the Hill death, but simply couldn’t buy his “magic deflecting bullet” story regarding the death of Clay. They knew it probably wouldn’t alter his sentence by much, so went with the single conviction.
Kind of funny that he heard “Not Guilty” on the first count and probably thought he was home free, only to have the rug pulled on the second count.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 26, 2024 3:03 pm

I also doubt that anyone living close to a nuke plant would enjoy it if an EMP was successfully deployed overhead.

An important planning concern.

If Poot the Shirtless, or Emperor Xi, really want to destroy Australia’s functional economy with nuclear weapons and minimal civilian casualties, they would target Loy Yang, Eraring, Dumaresq, the Bayswater switchyard, Dampier, Wheatstone, Moomba, and Longford.

If really vindictive, they would leave Canbra untouched.

Don’t pass this on.

Oh come on
Oh come on
June 26, 2024 3:11 pm

As per Rosie’s comment, Lynn had a history of gratuitous violence towards animals.

Isn’t this what his former MiL claimed? I wouldn’t place too much stock in it if she is the only source.

And no you can’t put her on the stand. The fact his ex-wife died from suicide would inevitably be adduced as a part of her testimony – or she would be testifying as an anonymous woman whose link to the accused isn’t allowed to be revealed to the jury but who would clearly be hostile to him. This would unfairly prejudice the jury.

The fact that an accused murderer’s ex-wife died from suicide is indeed grounds to suspect guilt. But it is the kind of thing that is rightfully kept from a jury which needs to decide solely on the evidence related to the crime whether he is guilty or not guilty of it.

Similarly, the criminal history of committing similar crimes is also kept from juries. It is something for the judge to account for during sentencing, however. In this case, whilst the judge isn’t going to take Lynn’s deceased wife’s fate into account when sentencing him, I’d hope the coroner has another look – a very long look – at the suicide of his former wife.

Rosie
Rosie
June 26, 2024 3:20 pm

Alleged suicide.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 26, 2024 3:20 pm

Isn’t this what his former MiL claimed? I wouldn’t place too much stock in it if she is the only source.

She isn’t.
Two others.
A neighbour and a house-guest also both witnessed abject and depraved animal cruelty.
That, folks, is what we call a pattern of behaviour.

Oh come on
Oh come on
June 26, 2024 3:24 pm

And I agree about the improbability of a successful appeal. Very hard to appeal a properly instructed jury verdict. Given most appear to consider the judge was favourable to Lynn, there probably isn’t going to be much for him to hang his hat on in the jury instructions. Prosecutorial or police misconduct…well, that’s very much Hail Mary territory. Unless something new arises, all of the issues in this regard have been ventilated.

I don’t reckon he’ll beat the conviction.

Oh come on
Oh come on
June 26, 2024 3:28 pm

Alleged suicide.

Wasn’t it determined to be a suicide? If so, there is nothing alleged about it, legally speaking. The cause of death might change with further investigation, of course.

Oh come on
Oh come on
June 26, 2024 3:32 pm

A neighbour and a house-guest also both witnessed abject and depraved animal cruelty.

If animal cruelty isn’t part of the factual matrix of the crime, it’s not relevant and shouldn’t be included. If it were included, he’d have grounds for appeal and would probably be successful.

Rosie
Rosie
June 26, 2024 3:33 pm

“In 2000, Victorian coroner Graeme Johnstone found her death was caused by “combined alcohol and drug toxicity” and said investigations did not reveal any suspicious circumstances or the involvement of other people.”

“As no suicide note or other definitive indications of the deceased’s intentions were found, it is unclear whether she intended to take her own life,” the coroner wrote”
So it’s an alleged suicide.

Gilas
Gilas
June 26, 2024 3:36 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 26, 2024 11:50 am
Reply to Bill From The Bush

Hairy chose radiation with seeds – called Brachytherapy.

If your cancer and pelvic structure is suitable for it, it gives excellent results.

All oncology treatments are becoming increasingly personalised, including prostate ca, so generalised advice is almost uniformly wrong. Variables to consider include the presence of metastases, tumour extending beyond the prostatic capsule, (multi)focality of the tumour/s within the capsule, histologic differentiation and the presence/absence of specific genetic signals beyond the usual PSA. Some of these (macro and micro-histology) are summarised in the Gleason score, which is inversely related to survival and is the single most important prognostic signal. Wikipedia has a good summary of all this.
Personal preference has a significant impact on post-treatment quality-of-life, so avoiding surgery when otherwise “indicated” isn’t necessarily a death sentence, but avoiding surgery will always prevent post-surgical complications. These can sometimes be worse than untreated disease.

The most important fact: 45-50% of post-mortems in men revealed incidental findings of prostate cancer ie. usually asymptomatic at the time of death ie. it is a prevalent, overwhelmingly low-morbidity disease. This was common knowledge in the 1950s and 60s, the results can therefore be trusted.
Everyone deciding on any invasive treatment should take this into account.

With regard to anti-hormonal, targeted or radiotherapies.. much higher benefit/risk ratios. That’s where I would be informing myself and asking most of the questions..

Kneel
Kneel
June 26, 2024 3:39 pm

I also doubt that anyone living close to a nuke plant would enjoy it if an EMP was successfully deployed overhead.

You can smell the desperation.”

Indeed.
One might also suggest it is doubtful that anyone living downstream from a pumped hydro dam would enjoy it if someone caused a catastrophic failure of the dam wall. Or that someone living within 1 few km of a dangerous goods warehouse would like it if such a warehouse was rocked by an explosion.

Oh come on
Oh come on
June 26, 2024 3:41 pm

Lynn very unwisely (but in keeping with his narcissistic personality) took to the stand and gave his account. Therefore there was only one path to acquittal. You either believe his story or you don’t.

I’m not sure it was unwise in this instance. Given his previous statements to police, there was already an account he’d provided that could be presented to the court. If he didn’t testify, he’d probably still have been found guilty.

I highly doubt he would have been acquitted if he didn’t testify. The circumstances of the victims’ deaths strongly suggest he did it. He needed to tell his story to stand half a chance of acquittal.

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Oh come on
Oh come on
June 26, 2024 3:43 pm

Okay Rosie, so it’s either a suicide or accidental death.

Vicki
Vicki
June 26, 2024 3:46 pm

This was posted by TdF on Jo NOva’s website today. I hope TdF won’t mind me reposting it here. It is SO good:

Sydney Harbour bridge. 1932. 92 years old

26 locks and weirs on the Murray river. 85 years old.

Sydney Opera House. 1973 Unbelievably expensive. World famous. 50 Years old.

Snowy Mountain hydro scheme, 70 years old.

West Gate Bridge. 1978. 40 year life expectancy. 46 years old.
Imagine if they all had to be built again?

We also built many power stations to burn free coal and gas.
Hazelwood power station 1971. 53 years old. Running at 98% of design when destroyed.Liddell power station. 1972. 53 years old when turned off.

Many more destroyed. All blown up or planned to be switched off.
To be replaced with windmills and solar panels which we know will be worn out in 20 years. 

How can this be cheaper? 

Why is Green never about solving problems and just about endless spending. And what do we, the paying public, get for our money? 
Short term Renewables solve no problem. And when they stop, we have nothing.
?
Why are we doing it? Cui Bono?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 26, 2024 3:47 pm

Sancho Panzer @ 9:25 am

The very question I was asking the other day. It used to be very easy to look up the status of the Iona gas reservoir on the web.

Now not so much.

It’s still easy for us Platinum Members.

Oh come on
Oh come on
June 26, 2024 3:55 pm

In case anyone thought otherwise, I don’t actually give a rat’s about this bloke. I’m not in any sense in his corner. I think the police interrogation of him was questionable, but that is about it. I appreciate the judge’s adjudication of the trial, as discussed above. I have no reason to doubt the jury’s verdict.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 26, 2024 4:00 pm

Alleged suicide.

I think this possibly has all the hallmarks of the early days in the Chris Dawson case. Very convincing ex-husband knows local coppers and primes them with a story about his crazy ex-missus going off the rails, and her nut-job family.
Cursory investigation follows including out-of-hand dismissals of complaints from her family.
Anyway, there is obviously enough prima facie evidence for the coroner to re-open it.
That might include how a confirmed tea-totaller ended up with a BAC of 0.21% and an overdose of prescription meds. It might just be that, if pathology samples still exist, that there was something else in her bloodstream that wasn’t tested for at the time.

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Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 26, 2024 4:02 pm

The Toodyay businessman, charged with failing to kiss the bare arze of the mythical rainbow serpent – the Wagyl – has had his case adjourned, yet again.

In Australia, in the Twenty first century, we are supposed to take this malarkey seriously?

bons
bons
June 26, 2024 4:04 pm

I was reminded this morning of the pernicious nature of OZ irrational anti nukism and its unquestioning acceptance by almost everyone.

Close friends came to visit us in France. One of their requests was that we book them into a chateau on the Loire for a few days. We did so although I had never seen the place.

It turned out that the pIace was in relatively close proximinity to nuke.

They refused to stay there, which left me utterly breathless.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 26, 2024 4:04 pm

Prosecutorial or police misconduct…well, that’s very much Hail Mary territory. Unless something new arises, all of the issues in this regard have been ventilated.

The “police misconduct” thing won’t fly, because that isn’t “evidence”. It was merely defence counsel spit-balling in front of a jury.
The Court of Appeal will bin that by 10:02 day one in the absence of hard evidence of evidence tampering.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 26, 2024 4:10 pm

“In 2000, Victorian coroner Graeme Johnstone found her death was caused by “combined alcohol and drug toxicity” and said investigations did not reveal any suspicious circumstances or the involvement of other people.”

Because it wasn’t explored?

“As no suicide note or other definitive indications of the deceased’s intentions were found, it is unclear whether she intended to take her own life,” the coroner wrote

He seems to assume that she ingested the substances voluntarily and possibly overdosed.
Not leaving a note seems very strange for someone who was driven to suicide by her psycho ex, but still had a loving extended family.
Also, choosing alcohol as a partial medium to suicide is an unusual thing for a non-drinker to do.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
June 26, 2024 4:15 pm

A Sydney bakery that made a terror-themed cake for a four-year-old’s birthday party and then boasted about it online has broken no laws and will not be prosecuted, the Australian Federal Police has confirmed to Sky News.

Didn’t we go through this already with the gay wedding cake saga? The business can choose who it trades with, and to a large degree how.

What exactly could the AFP do anyway? Form a Bakery Brigade?
Sweets With Appearance of Terror (SWAT) team.
Flan Force, LOL.

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
June 26, 2024 4:19 pm

What, the Wagyl still can’t be reached for comment?Methinks the lack of flood/drought/dissapeared children indicates things are a-OK in the Dreamtime realm. Case dismissed. The lawyers acting for the Wagyl, or the trustees for Wagyl Inc Pty Ltd, can pay damages, too.

Bruce in WA
June 26, 2024 4:21 pm

How true … and what a comb-over!

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Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 26, 2024 4:35 pm

Dr Faustus
 June 26, 2024 3:47 pm

Sancho Panzer @ 9:25 am

The very question I was asking the other day. It used to be very easy to look up the status of the Iona gas reservoir on the web.

Now not so much.

It’s still easy for us Platinum Members.

Ooooh.
That is a very steep curve!
(Thanks for that. It is bookmarked so I can watch the decline).

Pogria
Pogria
June 26, 2024 4:41 pm

At least we drinkers will be okay if we live near a nuke plant. 😀

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Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 26, 2024 4:44 pm

Thanks Dr F.
We had a very mild Autumn down here, and the Iona storage has dropped from 23,000 to below 15,000 in about 4-5 weeks.
But no doubt ‘Conomies ‘o Scale will kick in at some point.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 26, 2024 4:47 pm

Ooooh.

That is a very steep curve!

Yes. Which accounts for AEMO squeezing a little poo of fright.

Particularly given that Iona is a depleted gas field – which, despite a buffer, makes extraction on demand of the last gas in the working storage less assured.

Tom
Tom
June 26, 2024 4:56 pm

Cultural cringe update: today I bought a couple of tins of 400-gram Woolworths house brand “peeled Italian tomatoes” on special for $1.10 each, which I will turn into delicious vegetarian pasta later in the week.

I would much prefer tomatoes grown in the Murray Valley in Shepparton, but apparently modern Australian consumers believe it will taste better if it is grown in Italy.

This reminds me of the 1970s, when Australian writers threw off the cultural cringe which had been compulsory in the Australian arts.

Except the Australian cultural cringe is now alive and well. Australia has the best, the least polluted farmland in the world, but we crave the approval of Europe for everything, including our food.
 
 

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 26, 2024 5:05 pm

How long do you give Ms Markle sticking around?
Michael Smith. Seems Hazza isn’t going to inherit Mama’s estate after all…

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 26, 2024 5:06 pm

Particularly given that Iona is a depleted gas field – which, despite a buffer, makes extraction on demand of the last gas in the working storage less assured.

The Heinz sauce bottle effect?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 26, 2024 5:10 pm

What exactly could the AFP do anyway? Form a Bakery Brigade?

Yeah, that’s fine, except if you got a cake baked which said something uncool about muzzies or qwerties the AFP would be down on you like a thousand falling brick outhouses.

Roger
Roger
June 26, 2024 5:12 pm

Someone senses blood in the water:

Greens plan more Palestine resolutions to test Labor MPs
Sydney Morning Herald

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Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
June 26, 2024 5:15 pm

delicious vegetarian pasta
crinnnnge
Real aussies eat meat at every meal, and tomatoes in season.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 26, 2024 5:15 pm

Malarkey we are supposed to take seriously…

“It came after traditional custodian Rod Garlett told the trial that changes to the waterway could disturb the Wagyl, also known as the Rainbow Serpent, which could curse his people, leading to sickness and even death.

Move to scrap the trial failsMr Maddox’s lawyer, former federal attorney general Christian Porter earlier failed to have the case thrown out on the grounds the state had failed to demonstrate enough evidence.”

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
June 26, 2024 5:22 pm

Very interesting article on primogeniture in the Anglo world, as suddenly seems to have Mr Markle’s cousin’s sister’s spokesperson’s sourcesclosetothepalace a bit miffed.
Tho, as pointed out by some Cat not too long ago, a pattern of behaviour by state supreme courts overturning explicit Wills in favour of group-hug distribution of assets lately has seemingly punted us in the direction of Napoleonic inheritance laws.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 26, 2024 5:27 pm

Cultural significance explained 
Ballardong man Rod Garlett told the trial the river’s tributaries were like veins in a human body, providing life to the land.
“If your vein is blocked you become sick, your body doesn’t work,” he said.
“That slow water that comes from tributaries are places where mothers would give birth to children … they are places for ceremony.”
He said the waterway was linked to the Wagyl, highly significant in his cultural beliefs.
“He was our creator … today our people are snake people for the river land for my mother’s people,” Mr Garlett said. 

He said it was difficult to separate the different categories of sites, such as ceremonial and spiritual, as they are delineated by the existing Aboriginal Heritage Act.
“They are all connected, and they have been for 65,000 years,” he said.
“It’s about life, it’s about mother earth. It’s about a living, breathing entity that we live on today.”

Roger
Roger
June 26, 2024 5:27 pm

This reminds me of the 1970s, when Australian writers threw off the cultural cringe which had been compulsory in the Australian arts.

I’d aver the quality of our literary and other arts was better prior to the ’70s.

Cultural cringe or not.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
June 26, 2024 5:30 pm

It came after traditional custodian Rod Garlett told the trial that changes to the waterway could disturb the Wagyl, also known as the Rainbow Serpent.

Could he sue the Wagyl for intruding into his waterway without written permission?

JC
JC
June 26, 2024 5:37 pm

Dover

How strongly would you feel if there was a Russian version of Julian Assange and a Russian WikiLeaks exposing Russian intelligence? Would they be seen as a hero or not so much?

Would you want him freed or executed?

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
June 26, 2024 5:52 pm

Went to my local gay bathhouse bakehouse
Ordered a gluten-free halal vego mud cake with “The AFP is right about Allah being right about The Gays” in (edible) rainbow lettering, organic of course.
Dude looks me up and down over the top of his Oscar Wylees and says, “You, dear, couldn’t afford the deposit”

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 26, 2024 5:52 pm

Particularly given that Iona is a depleted gas field – which, despite a buffer, makes extraction on demand of the last gas in the working storage less assured.

The Heinz sauce bottle effect?

Yes a bit of that. Also, torturing the food analogy, a bit of sucking hard on a straw at the bottom of an ice filled glass for the last few mouthfuls and getting noises but no beverage.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 26, 2024 5:53 pm

I bought a couple of tins of 400-gram Woolworths house brand “peeled Italian tomatoes” on special for $1.10

Yes, well.

It is common knowledge that if tomatoes are peeled by an Italian, someone who has been to Italy or who is of Italian descent, they are Italian tomatoes.

Tom
Tom
June 26, 2024 5:57 pm

FFS, Sky News: shrieking females is not entertainment.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 26, 2024 5:57 pm

No tough Labor: rat in Labor ranks Fatima Payman gets off virtually scot-free
I dunno, she won’t be allowed to play in the bouncy castle with the other boys and girls..

cohenite
June 26, 2024 6:00 pm

We have a handsome boy for PM who is scared shitless of muzzies and the chunks and believes in man made global farting and that renewables work. What could go wrong?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 26, 2024 6:02 pm

Great literary works of the 21st Century!

Man arrested with knife outside politician’s office after sending manifesto to public figures threatening mass-killing (Sky News ,26 Jun)

A 19-year-old man has been arrested by NSW Police with a knife outside NSW state Labor MP Tim Crakanthorp’s [Newcastle] office.

Sky News can reveal the teenager was reading a 200-page manifesto he had written where he vowed to commit a mass-killing.

The manifesto was sent to a number of high-profile figures in the media and politics today, who immediately notified police.

Counter-terrorism police are understood to be investigating the incident.

It’s understood the 19-year-old is now in custody.

So this 19 year old was reciting his 200 page opus outside the Labor MP’s office whilst waving a knife?

I’m all ears about what he was saying, but I seriously expect never to hear what it was.

caveman
caveman
June 26, 2024 6:06 pm

“Alleged suicide”

Are we taking dibs on Assange???

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 26, 2024 6:14 pm

Hmmmm

More than four hours since I challenged mUntyfa to produce evidence to back a claim he made yesterday. I am coming to the conclusion that there is no such evidence, and he just made it up.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 26, 2024 6:14 pm

Are we taking dibs on Assange???

Depends on what he has on Hillary. She’s been out and about this week, and has a new book on release. Pick me, pick me!

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Righty memesters are quick!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 26, 2024 6:15 pm

breaking

Kingsley Pickett: Recidivist who killed pregnant mum, son in high-speed crash removes tracker after releaseRebecca Le MayThe West Australian
Wed, 26 June 2024 4:09PM

One of WA’s worst criminals is back behind bars after allegedly removing his GPS tracker and committing other offences.
Kingsley Arnold Pickett was being kept behind bars indefinitely under a continuing detention order for high-risk serious offenders imposed in 2020 because there was an unacceptable risk he would commit further major crimes.
His long list of convictions includes the death of pregnant mother Margaret Blurton and her one-year-old son Shane on Boxing Day 1991 after a high-speed crash in a stolen vehicle and the rape of a 27-year-old woman during a violent home invasion in Cloverdale during a five-day crime spree in 1998.
Supreme Court of WA Justice Anthony Derrick rescinded Pickett’s indefinite imprisonment order in February.

But the 46-year-old was back in the same court via videolink from Hakea Prison on Wednesday, when Justice Joseph McGrath imposed an interim detention order pending the outcome of fresh charges.
Court documents show Mr Pickett has been charged with five counts of contravening a requirement of a supervision order, four counts of trespass, one count of criminal or destruction of property and one count of using amphetamines.

If he only knew about the Rainbow serpent?

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 26, 2024 6:19 pm

Clinton, Pelosi, Waters or Warren? Which is the foulest of them all?

Bruce in WA
June 26, 2024 6:21 pm

Most of the “Italian” canned tomatoes are canned in Italy from Chinese grown tomatoes.

Also, 90 % of the tomatoes grown in Italy are owned by the Chinese.

I can recommend “Napolina” brand tinned tomatoes … grown, processed and tinned in Italy, Puglia, by an Italian family-owned company.

Indolent
Indolent
June 26, 2024 6:27 pm
Rossini
Rossini
June 26, 2024 6:43 pm

Any one know why “Flash” hasn’t updated its opinion shows

MatrixTransform
June 26, 2024 6:43 pm

Why are we doing it? 

…because your’e the farm

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 26, 2024 6:48 pm

Redeye flight to Sydney later this evening, via Melbourne if you don’t mind, in a several-days-long pursuit of smallgoodsery.

Lots of direct flights to Darwin, but not from Darwin.

It’s been eleven years since I graced that fair town. Hills and rivers everywhere, making it an impossibility to go as the crow flies – unlike everywhere else.

I do hope the rampant poofery is less obvious now.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 26, 2024 6:50 pm

The UK continues to head for troubled waters in the latest Ipsos poll:

  • Labour lead voting intentions by 42% (-1 from early June) to Conservatives’ 19% (-4)
  • Reform UK up 6 points to 15% (highest share with Ipsos), LibDems up 3 to 11%. 
  • Rishi Sunak most unpopular Prime Minister with Ipsos ever at this stage of campaign.
  • Just over a third say they may change their mind before polling day.
  • 72% say they dislike the Conservatives (a record high), their worst score, and 78% think it is time for a change

No comeback for the Tories.

This poll (via the FT poll of polls) suggests that intention to vote for Reform has plateaued – indicating one or two parliamentary seats. However, 35% of Brits still think they may change their minds, so who knows…

The bright spot is that the Greens vote fell – pointing to no representation aside from Brighton, City of Sodomy.

The really dull spot is that only 50% of Brits think it matters who wins, a stonking FMD conclusion in these troubled times.

MatrixTransform
June 26, 2024 6:50 pm

“police misconduct”

It wan’t misconduct it was procedure …they did’t follow procedure and it screwed everything up

allegedly there was much info that never got presented (don’t ask how i know)

the Andrews’ family car collects a cyclist and procedure isnt very important at all

now a likely serial killer has a loophole and apparently procedure does matter

go figure

Indolent
Indolent
June 26, 2024 6:54 pm
chrisl
chrisl
June 26, 2024 6:58 pm

I’ll see your Italian tomatoes and raise you…. American cherries.
300 grams punnet grown in USA selling in central Qld for $7.50
How is this even possible ?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 26, 2024 7:00 pm

Anybody know if it’s true that Albanese has just got his bill to ban the live sheep trade, through the Lower House?

Roger
Roger
June 26, 2024 7:00 pm

The really dull spot is that only 50% of Brits think it matters who wins, a stonking FMD conclusion in these troubled times.

Mmm…poll them again after 18 months of Labour.

Salvatore - Iron Publican
June 26, 2024 7:13 pm

Anybody know if it’s true that Albanese has just got his bill to ban the live sheep trade, through the Lower House?

It is true.
Kate Chaney – Teal member for Curtin, changed her mind at the last minute & voted against the bill (i.e. she voted to retain the live sheep trade)

Rosie
Rosie
June 26, 2024 7:22 pm

Yes there’s a website called ‘tomato news’.
It’s a little bit hard for me to believe that fresh tomatoes are shipped from China to Italy, they’d have to be picked green or shipped by air and given the price of tinned tomatoes from Italy it seems unlikely.
It’s seems it’s Chinese tomato paste and the ‘packaged in Italy’ stuff goes to Africa and the ME.
The EU is pretty ruthless about this sort of thing.
https://www.tomatonews.com/en/chinese-tomato-products-anicav-clarifies-the-situation_2_1833.html

bons
bons
June 26, 2024 7:24 pm

The Dunny Brush flew to Saipan to greet the Creep!

Rumours that he is going to have another go at OZ politics are probably true. You can see the ticket – “Malcom and Me”

God it is so depressing.

Rosie
Rosie
June 26, 2024 7:33 pm

When I was a kid a relative grew tomatoes commercially.
I loved to work the grading machine.
They were picked mostly green and then gas ripened, we only ate fresh home grown and it’s why I now only buy hydroponic, at least they smell like tomatoes.
I tried growing them myself years ago but the water rats, which are plentiful around here, picked them and hid them in the garden (I found their stash)so that was the end of that.

Salvatore - Iron Publican
June 26, 2024 7:34 pm

Apropos of Italy & tomatoes, Here’s a nifty video of the 2022 tomato harvest. Farmer types may be interested.
Part of the broader field of tractor videos.

tomato-carrying-in-italy
132andBush
132andBush
June 26, 2024 7:39 pm

I would much prefer tomatoes grown in the Murray Valley in Shepparton, but apparently modern Australian consumers believe it will taste better if it is grown in Italy.

Why didn’t you buy Aussie ones?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 26, 2024 7:57 pm

chrisl
 June 26, 2024 6:58 pm

I’ll see your Italian tomatoes

I still remember ViTrioli on their ABC telling a Shepparton tomato grower that “Italian tomatoes are superior and she, because Italian genes, had the palate to discern the difference”.
The grower put up with this shit for about five minutes before the gauntlet was thrown down.
“I will be back tomorrow with a selection of tomatoes for a blind taste test”.
She laughed it off, but he persisted.
She declined.

Rosie
Rosie
June 26, 2024 8:00 pm

As though Italians invented the tomato.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
June 26, 2024 8:06 pm

LGBTQI+ troops in the Ukrainian front line fight homophobia at home:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd1140yv03po

From the BBC, but out-gaying even our GayBC.

caveman
caveman
June 26, 2024 8:08 pm

“Here have a gum leaf”… tonight’s welcome to country state of oranges.
They think tank up shit to say.

Rosie
Rosie
June 26, 2024 8:10 pm

ViTrioli grew up in Melbourne’s eastern suburbs. Her dad most likely grew tomatoes, Australian ones.

JC
JC
June 26, 2024 8:10 pm

Rosie

 June 26, 2024 8:00 pm

As though Italians invented the to

How the hell did they make tomato sauce 500 years ago?

🙂

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 26, 2024 8:20 pm

How the hell did they make tomato sauce 500 years ago?

They didn’t. Disinformation. Fake news.

It is common knowledge among the informed that tomatoes were invented by the CSIRO in 1931 to prevent ‘green only’ salad riots.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 26, 2024 8:21 pm

As though Italians invented the tomato.

Well, yes. By an Italian guy named Christopher Columbus. 😀

I’d like to shake his hand, especially for spag bol and pizzas, but his hand is probably a bit dried out an icky these days. Potatoes also are yummy. Thanks to Ferdinand and Isabella for backing him!

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 26, 2024 8:27 pm

The last bloke to hit the ground had some serious AIR time.

—–

Steve Inman:

The robbers escape plan crumbled.
https://rumble.com/v53t93o-the-robbers-escape-plan-crumbled..html

Crossie
Crossie
June 26, 2024 8:46 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

 June 26, 2024 5:27 pm

Cultural significance explained 

Ballardong man Rod Garlett told the trial the river’s tributaries were like veins in a human body, providing life to the land.

“If your vein is blocked you become sick, your body doesn’t work,” he said.

“That slow water that comes from tributaries are places where mothers would give birth to children … they are places for ceremony.”

Yet as soon as any of the aboriginals feels unwell they call the Flying Doctor service.

How many of the indigenous women have given birth near the water? Any at all?

I would be more likely to believe that they believe this if not for their insistence on modern medicine to be laid on for them in the traditional regions. They can’t have it both ways.

Rosie
Rosie
June 26, 2024 8:56 pm

Birthing trees, birthing waters.
I’m not convinced there was any special place.

pete of perth
pete of perth
June 26, 2024 9:19 pm

BLAG rules J6 committee illegitimate. Calling Monty, monty …
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/06/breaking-big-news-steve-bannon-bipartisan-legal-advisory/ link

cohenite
June 26, 2024 9:32 pm

69% of US Jews vote demorat:

Party affiliation of US voters by religious group | Pew Research Center

As good a definition of insanity as you’ll get.

JC
JC
June 26, 2024 9:48 pm

A lot of important stuff came from the Americas. Not in any order.
Tomato, corn, potato, coffee, cocoa, sweet potatoes, death squads, child sacrifice, drug cartels, cocaine.

JC
JC
June 26, 2024 9:49 pm

The 4% inflation rate announcement is a zinger.
I suspect we’re in the accord, mark 3. They keep feeding inflation through annual wage increases and more restrictive labor practices without even a smidgeon of productivity increase.
The only way inflation comes down is through tighter RBA policy until we go into a decent recession.
This could very end up as a one term government.
There needs to be a constitutional amendment banning any big eared stupid treasurers from Queensland..

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 26, 2024 9:51 pm

Assange looks like Sir Les Patterson.
A verandah over the tool shed and the strides hanging on for dear life.

Pogria
Pogria
June 26, 2024 9:54 pm

If Assange has been locked away for more than a decade, why are his children under five years old?

Turkey baster by Post?

JC
JC
June 26, 2024 10:01 pm

The economist reported that despite all the bullshit about da China’s Yuan becoming a reserve currency, holdings have actually stalled.

China’s currency is not as influential as once imagined

Its share of international reserves has stalled

Chinese officials seem pleased with the yuan’s recent progress as a global currency. The international monetary system is diversifying at an accelerating pace, said Pan Gongsheng, the governor of China’s central bank, in March. The yuan has become the fourth-most active currency in global payments, he noted. In trade finance, it now ranks third. And according to the central bank’s data, about half of China’s transactions with the rest of the world (for financial assets, as well as goods) are now settled in yuan.

The yuan may one day live up to the global role once envisaged for it. It may one day even rival the American dollar. But first it must eclipse the Canadian one.

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No one wants it. At the end of the day, you reserve into a currency which has a deep credit market and most importantly, you have a 95% chance of being able to get your money back, provided you’re not Putin, one of his buddies or a drug dealer. That’s the Greenback.

The confiscation of Russian assets is pure evil though. I can’t abide what the West has done there.

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Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 26, 2024 10:02 pm

JC
 June 26, 2024 9:48 pm

A lot of important stuff came from the Americas. Not in any order.

Tomato, corn, potato, coffee, cocoa, sweet potatoes, death squads, child sacrifice, drug cartels, cocaine.

And tobacco.
Oh, that’s right.
You’re trying to forget.
Bob Newhart did a skit years ago based on a phone call from Sir Walter Raleigh explaining tobacco to his boss back in London, England.
“You, what?!? You set fire to it?”

JC
JC
June 26, 2024 10:03 pm

Sanchez

Of course, how could I forget filtered cigs came out of there.

JC
JC
June 26, 2024 10:07 pm

cohenite

June 26, 2024 9:32 pm

69% of US Jews vote demorat:

Party affiliation of US voters by religious group | Pew Research Center

As good a definition of insanity as you’ll get.

I don’t believe that number, Cronkite. I suspect Jews being contacted are too ashamed to say they’re voting Trump/GOP.

Look, the big rump of the Jewish vote is in NY and polls are suggesting that Trump is actually within 6% and closing. He’s not going to win NY, but he could actually get close.

Any American Jew voting Demon needs serious psychiatric care.

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H B Bear
H B Bear
June 26, 2024 10:31 pm

Got a robocall in Bishop”s old seat of Curtin. Must be 50:50 whether Albo can even make it to2025.

KevinM
KevinM
June 26, 2024 11:21 pm

For those who are whining about the timescale and cost of nuclear, there are a lot projects that take longer and cost more, yet were built.

If you don’t start you never finish.
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Forty-seven years ago today, first oil entered the Trans Alaska Pipeline System, changing Alaska’s history overnight.

Since that historic day, more than 18 billion barrels have moved through TAPS.

The pipeline project involved some 70,000 workers from 1969 through 1977 and it took three years, two months to build. It cost a whopping $8 billion in 1977, making it the largest privately funded construction project at that time.

It took first oil more than a month to reach the Valdez Marine Terminal due to a series of mechanical problems that halted the pipeline’s operation. In Valdez the oil was loaded aboard the tanker ARCO Juneau, which departed August 1 with the first shipment of North Slope crude, nine years after the discovery well at Prudhoe Bay.

For more pipeline facts and tidbits, go here. https://bit.ly/3Rt2gjR

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m0nty
m0nty
June 27, 2024 8:22 am

The 4% inflation rate announcement is a zinger.

I suspect we’re in the accord, mark 3. They keep feeding inflation through annual wage increases and more restrictive labor practices without even a smidgeon of productivity increase.

The only way inflation comes down is through tighter RBA policy until we go into a decent recession.

Annualised inflation will lower markedly over the next four months as a string of high-inflation months drop out of calculations. Don’t be a frightbat, JC.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 27, 2024 8:44 am

Tucker having fun with the media.
I never like his presentation style, but seeing journos, especially Australian ones mocked to their faces is a beautiful thing.

https://x.com/i/status/1806034521369776406

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