Open Thread – Weekend 29 June 2024


Day Dreams, John Atkinson Grimshaw, late 1800s

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Zatara
Zatara
June 29, 2024 12:29 am

Reporting claims that the Dems are going nuts today trying to figure out what to do next. Replace (if they can) or press on with Biden.

After a bit of consideration, I think there may be some validity to the theory that the debate was to some degree a setup by the realistic faction of the party to get rid of Biden .

The power of the Biden mob relative to the party was such that even if the party didn’t want to nominate him there was no way to deny it to the incumbent president and presumed leader of the party without tearing the party apart. So they let him destroy himself on live TV as they must have known he likely would.

This would also answer the question of why the Dems pushed for this debate so unusually early in the campaign season, to give them time to reorganize if he drops out.

Keep the popcorn handy because this is going to get interesting.

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 29, 2024 12:49 am

2nd! Hi there from sunny Malta. If we moved to the Mediterranean it would be a good candidate for best place to live.

KevinM
KevinM
June 29, 2024 2:51 am

Genuine warning, DO NOT click!
Definitely not cute owls but they are happy to pose. Why?

God only knows.

Tom
Tom
June 29, 2024 4:00 am
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Tom
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Tom
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Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
June 29, 2024 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
June 29, 2024 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
June 29, 2024 4:08 am
Miltonf
Miltonf
June 29, 2024 5:53 am

Maybe they’ll arkancide the old perv and say it was a MAGA nutjob. No evil, no dirty trick is too great for the DNC and their coconspirators in the FBI and CIA. Then parachute the lesbian bitch in.

Pogria
Pogria
June 29, 2024 6:22 am

During, and the aftermath of the debate, has been like the exploding head scene from “Kingsman”. An example;

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Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 29, 2024 6:50 am

I put this up at the end of the auld threade, but Sancho’s point is worth elaborating on for further discussion:

“In Groupthink, suspected disbelief lasts until someone breaks and goes, nah, fackit, no really, this is crap…”

Good observation, Sancho. It is the same as the Emperor’s Clothes syndrome, except that the realisation comes from within the group rather than external to it, as with the innocence of the little boy re the Emperor.

Once the dam bursts though, suddenly they are all seeing it.

With this debate, it’s really hard to tell whether the puppet-masters put poor old Joe (I’m not sorry for him though) up for deliberate demolition or whether they too were in enough of a bubble to believe they could fake it once again with him. As for the general Democrat-voters, it might be hard for us to believe but as Hairy points out to me, they have probably never really seen from within their bubble the sorts of video clips we’ve been seeing regularly. So they are in shock.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 29, 2024 7:01 am

Re that picture on our current threade header, she’s looking relaxed and every ‘tired businessman’s delight’ in the days when such Victorian art was produced for admiration long before internet porn, but gee, she must have been very uncomfortable in that tight-laced corset around the waist that was so sexy back then (think Chinese-ladies crippled feet, for similar fetishes in the male gaze, ugh). I do have a pic of me at sixteen with a similarly constrained 22 inch waist – but by the 1950’s not the 18 inches that Scarlett O’Hara had to have and not with whalebone corsetry thank goodness; and only worn for special occasions, not daily like the poor soul in the pic above.

We women are our own worst enemies though, for we go along with the ‘looks’ decreed by fashion. Can’t blame men for it all.

johanna
johanna
June 29, 2024 7:15 am

According to TheirABC, the weather runs on rails:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-06-29/australia-weather-strongest-cold-front-of-2024/104037418

The headline says ‘Australia’s weather heading off the rails.’

It turns out that some coldth is coming along, and the fact that it is winter should not distract us from being scared. Also, these are the people who falsely claim that we are in the middle of the hottest year evah.

Also, last week they were telling us that the snowfields were doomed because of you-know-what. I look forward to the reports of the devastation caused by heavy snowfall in the next few days.

Paraphrasing from memory, in Le Carre’s ‘Tinker, Tailor’ etc, there is a passage of dialogue between Smiley and roughneck superbrain Roy Bland:

B: You’re an educated kind of cove. Who was it who said that the definition of ***** was the ability to hold two opposing points of view and remain sane?
S: It was Scott Fitzgerald.
B: Well, he knew a thing or two.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 29, 2024 7:15 am

I am preparing to take my busted coccyx to its first dance class since getting the spinal injection on Monday. It’s an improvement but not a cure yet.

My philosophy of aging is that you keep moving, whatever happens.

I am the same age as Biden, which is a terrifying thought.
Neither dementing nor shuffling, thanks to what?
The Grace of God, as my old mum used to say.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 29, 2024 7:16 am

Lizzie its called survival of the fittest. Nature as it was meant to be. Making the most of what ever assets you have. Thursday, down here in the Shoalhaven was a lot of birdies getting it on. They have no shame. I was sitting there right in front of them. I figure they know its after the winter solstice and spring was on the way. The plovers already have chicks.

bons
bons
June 29, 2024 8:07 am

The fortune waiting for me at the bookmakers is calling to me.

C’mon you Dem morons, nominate Michelle now. I have fantasies to service..

johanna
johanna
June 29, 2024 8:08 am

Why does it seem to be colder when it is dark?

As a smoker who has to step outside to enjoy a cig in these totalitarian days, all sorts of new experiences have come about. But, this one has me puzzled.

Where I live is cold at night, below zero is common in winter. I sometimes put on an overcoat to go out and have a smoke.

What I notice is that it ‘feels’ colder when it is dark than when it is even a bit light. I’ve checked it with temperature readings, yup, same temp, I feel chilled or just mid-fridge, dependent on the light.

Why is that?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 29, 2024 8:10 am

C’mon you Dem morons, nominate Michelle now. I have fantasies to service..

For a terrifying moment i thought that read “A Michelle to service”….

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 29, 2024 8:19 am

Looks like the Dems have decided.

Hillary Clinton Doubles Down on Biden Support (28 Jun)

CNN: Biden Not Planning to Step Aside (28 Jun)

Obama Urges Voters to Stick With Biden Despite ‘Bad Debate’ (28 Jun)

“Bad debate nights happen. Trust me, I know,” Obama wrote Friday on X. “But this election is still a choice between someone who has fought for ordinary folks his entire life and someone who only cares about himself.”

That’s a multiple ROFL right there.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 29, 2024 8:24 am

So Obummer is supporting Donald John Trump, the best President they’ve ever had.

Indolent
Indolent
June 29, 2024 8:32 am
BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 29, 2024 8:33 am

Amazing.
Ladbrokes cover betting on Masterchef, but not the US election.
They are not a serious site.

damon
damon
June 29, 2024 8:34 am

I cannot understand why Biden persists with the “suckers and losers” accusation, when it has been debunked over and over again.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 29, 2024 8:34 am

Disgraced former special forces soldier Ben Roberts-Smith has been welcomed into Western Australia’s Government House to receive a special honour from King Charles III, a year after a federal court judge concluded the ex-corporal had executed and brutalised Afghan prisoners and disgraced the nation’s military

Comment awaiting approval.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 29, 2024 8:37 am

Lizzie at 6:50 …
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
 June 29, 2024 6:28 am

“In Groupthink, suspected disbelief lasts until someone breaks and goes, nah, fackit, no really, this is crap…”

Good observation, Sancho

As I said, one of us is having a Biden episode, because I don’t remember saying that.

Tom
Tom
June 29, 2024 8:39 am

Other Cats have raised the million-dollar question: what did the faceless men who’ve been running the White House for the past four years think would happen when they wheeled out a frail Joe Biden against an aggressive Donald Trump on the debate stage?

It seems to me that, in the past month, the faceless men, led by Barack Obama, have decided it is time to end the façade of their puppet president and replace him with a candidate who has a hope in hell of winning an election in four months’ time.

Or maybe they’re confident they can keep using mail-in ballots to steal presidential elections.
?
In any case, the jig is up. The most disgraceful episode in American history is drawing to a close – but with half the political establishment  still campaigning to destroy the United States.

johanna
johanna
June 29, 2024 8:45 am

Just in case nobody undertands why TheirABC has no comprehension of the real world:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-06-29/reform-uk-nigel-farage-uk-election-2024-clacton/104033158

It’s a balmy British evening and Nigel Farage is holding court in the beer garden of a small, seaside pub in the east coast town of Clacton-on-Sea in Essex.
He’s wearing a three-piece suit, but the former commodities trader tries to be the everyman — downing pints with the locals and talking football ahead of England’s latest match at the Euro 2024 tournament.

Leaving aside the ‘It’s a balmy etc’ that is now apparently mandatory in introductions to news reports (because they are all wasted at TheirABC and should be writing Great Novels) – wow. Just wow.

He’s wearing a suit and faking it as Everyman – how does she manage to get dressed in the morning?

Farage sometimes wears suits and drinks in pubs, been doing it for decades.Sometimes he does one or the other. His immense political achievements mean nothing to this airhead.

She knows nothing about Farage, except what she’s read on social media.

Hand-picked by TheirABC, the kind of person they want to employ.

vr
vr
June 29, 2024 8:47 am

I confess to “upticking” Leak’s toon before even checking it out. He never fails.

damon
damon
June 29, 2024 8:47 am

Lizzie, the body failing is an inevitable part of aging, and we generally accept it. The real tragedy is when the mind fails. I am, I think, slightly older than you, and I’ve seen both sides. Mum died at 90.

johanna
johanna
June 29, 2024 8:51 am

format fail – meh.

Get rid of this stupid setup and things might improve,

Indolent
Indolent
June 29, 2024 8:52 am

It’s sad that we’ve reached the point where this can even be estimated. I don’t think you need to be a doctor to see that it’s self-evident. If you pump yourself full of drugs to achieve your self-vision what do you expect.
Transgender and Gender Nonconforming Cancer Survivors Have Higher Odds of Most Conditions

alwaysright
alwaysright
June 29, 2024 8:54 am

Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper. Truth itself becomes suspicious by being put into that polluted vehicle.

Thomas Jefferson

Indolent
Indolent
June 29, 2024 8:56 am
Roger
Roger
June 29, 2024 8:59 am

A Canadian trend we should follow:

A Canadian “Pretendian” woman has been sentenced to three years jail for defrauding the government of C$150 000 by falsely claiming benefits for her Inuit daughters…who were not indigenous.

Better yet…just pull the brakes on the whole gravy train.

Indolent
Indolent
June 29, 2024 8:59 am

This is unbelievable. Not only has no one ever gone to jail over this, but the Attorney General of the U.S. has done exactly the same thing he is charged with with NO repercussions.
Supreme Court Denies Steve Bannon’s Request To Stay Out Of Jail

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
June 29, 2024 9:01 am

If there’s not a three piece suit, a set of overalls and wellies, and a dreadlocked Belgian girl in cheesecloth, and standing room only at 5 on a Tuesday, then it’s just not an English Pub

Indolent
Indolent
June 29, 2024 9:04 am

Dr. John Campbell

Dementia awareness

Interesting day to raise this.

Bruce
Bruce
June 29, 2024 9:08 am

See also:

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There are several of these “Captain Pike” images out there now.

The “memes” just seem to make themselves.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 29, 2024 9:08 am

In news thats probably more significant than Joes brainworm problems the Supremes in the US may have just gutted the administrative state.

The Chevron ruling enabling agencies to create “law” out of thin air has been overturned.
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/06/28/politics/chevron-precedent-supreme-court/index.html

The decision overturns the Chevron v. Natural Resources Defense Council precedent that required courts to give deference to federal agencies when creating regulations based on an ambiguous law. Congress routinely enacts open-ended laws that give latitude to agencies to work out — and adjust — the details to new circumstances.
“Chevron is overruled,” Chief Justice John Roberts wrote in his majority opinion. “Courts must exercise their independent judgment in deciding whether an agency has acted within its statutory authority.”
Justice Neil Gorsuch, the son of a former Environmental Protection Agency administrator, wrote separately to call Chevron Deference “a grave anomaly when viewed against the sweep of historic judicial practice.”
The 1984 decision, he said, “undermines core rule-of-law values ranging from the promise of fair notice to the promise of a fair hearing,” adding that it “operated to undermine rather than advance reliance interests, often to the detriment of ordinary Americans.”

damon
damon
June 29, 2024 9:11 am

What irritates me about this artwork is that at least two of the paintings on the wall are hanging crooked.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 29, 2024 9:12 am

JC at 6:06.
That is hilarious but it does pose the question … why did the media go from not only “nothing to see here” but spruiking “Joe is at the top of his game” (despite the mounting evidence of a marble deficit) to unanimously declaring yesterday that Joe had lost it?
The stuttering, bumbling vacant shell of the crook he once was hasn’t changed.

Indolent
Indolent
June 29, 2024 9:18 am
Roger
Roger
June 29, 2024 9:19 am

He’s wearing a three-piece suit, but the former commodities trader tries to be the everyman…

I’ll see your Nigel Farage and raise you a property portfolio multi-millionaire who “fights Tories.”

Indolent
Indolent
June 29, 2024 9:20 am
Roger
Roger
June 29, 2024 9:22 am

Arthur Sinodinos will be along any minute now to vouch for Joe Biden.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 29, 2024 9:22 am

So Obummer is supporting Donald John Trump, the best President they’ve ever had.

Even the most vampirish Democrats realise that they must let their host recover a little replenish it’s blood supply rather than sipping until it is stark dead.

132andBush
132andBush
June 29, 2024 9:37 am

johanna

June 29, 2024 7:15 am

According to TheirABC, the weather runs on rails:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-06-29/australia-weather-strongest-cold-front-of-2024/104037418

The headline says ‘Australia’s weather heading off the rails.’

Thanks for posting that, johanna, Lord above it was hard reading.

Describing the standard winter weather pattern with a positive Southern Annular Mode in play as something akin to the end of days sure takes some doing.

This weather system has been on the long range cards for weeks now, in fact we had a meeting of the heads yesterday to make sure we don’t get surprised if conditions quickly become too wet to move.

A major repair job to one of the spray booms has been cut to a “just enough to have it going” level in order that all in crop spraying is a whisker ahead of assigned dates.
More urea being stockpiled so we can spread everything in one hit if need be.

First sown canola paddock just starting to run up.

Rufus T Firefly
Rufus T Firefly
June 29, 2024 9:42 am

I watched the debate yesterday on Shapiro’s “Daily Wire” channel.
(Thats 90 mins of my life I will not get back.)

Two things surprised me.

  1. I thought the moderators were not too bad, considering.
  2. It was essentially an insult contest, “yes you are – no I’m not”.

I was hoping that after DJT briefly mentioned the sacking of the Ukraine prosecutor, that the “fondler in chief” would return with:
“Well, why did you threaten to sack that CDC official if he didn’t release the “vaccines” into the arms of the great unwashed?”
Of course the official did and now millions are dead.
(I just cannot understand the mentality of people, lining up for their own execution, like in Jonestown.)

I guess that would require him to be a sentient being and also of course, that would affect his continuing income stream.

By far the best part of the broadcast, was an advert, made by Daily Wire, for “Jeremy’s razors”. (I don’t know if that is an actual product, or a piss take.)
It went for 2 mins and was the best ad I’ve seen for decades.

Several of the Daily Wire staff took the mickey out of themselves, including Shapiro and they explained why “white people” do not appear in ads any more.
Well worth a look.

mem
mem
June 29, 2024 9:43 am

CSIRO CEO Dr Doug Hilton says Peter Dutton’s comments on the GenCost report corrode the public’s trust in science. No, Mr Hilton, The CSIRO’s flawed report has corroded public trust in what was once a reputable scientific body. Mr Hilton goes on to try and explain away why the GenCost report failed, without admitting it failed. Sorry mate, I’m no scientist, but your excuses don’t pass the pub test .https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-06-29/csiro-chief-executive-peter-dutton-comments-corrode-public-trust/104038696

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 29, 2024 9:57 am

Roger
 June 29, 2024 9:22 am

Arthur Sinodinos will be along any minute now to vouch for Joe Biden.

Greg Sheridan had to write a “Trump wins debate” article through gritted teeth.
He glossed over the debate and started quacking on about the various policy development think-tanks the Dimocrats have, and how the debate rules helped Trump … rules set by the Biden camp and CNN.
He doesn’t think the debate will determine the election. He regards Biden’s performance as “stumbles” like mispronouncing the name of a Russian diplomat, or forgetting the date of some event from the distant past. He doesn’t see it as evidence of catastrophic and irreversible cognitive decline and what that means if he is elected for another four years to the most powerful office in the world.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
June 29, 2024 9:57 am

Rufus, Jeremy’s razors is a genuine product. Created by Jeremy Boring CEO Daily Wire after a razor company who advertised with DW went woke and cancelled their advertising. They did not like something Michael Knowles (in the ad the one who Jeremy refuses to hi five with) said on another podcast. However they made the huge mistake of having a go at DW. Jeremy’s Razors was the not so subtle but brilliant response.
Agree one of the best ads made.

Roger
Roger
June 29, 2024 9:58 am

Real cost of renewables is in your power bills

Chris Uhlmann, The Australian 29 June, 2024

There is a moment of profound irony in the New Testament when Jesus tells Pontius Pilate he has come to bear witness to the truth. “The truth,” Pilate replies. “What is that?” Consider what the author had in mind. Pilot has Christ, aka The Truth, standing right in front of him and he cannot see it.

If you prefer the movies to scripture then truth is also on trial in A Few Good Men when Colonel Nathan Jessup cracks under cross-examination by Lieutenant Daniel Kaffee.

Jessup: You want answers?!

Kaffee: I want the truth!

Jessup: You can’t handle the truth!

Confronted with uncomfortable truths, many prefer their own version of reality.

And so it was when the Energy Institute delivered its annual Statistical Review of World Energy. For over 70 years this report has done the world a great service by simply recording the energy it is consuming.

For some, the truth of this year’s report was confirmation of the extraordinary progress being made by weather-dependent generation.

The Energy Institute declared “New wind and solar installations outpaced all other additions to the global energy mix in 2023”. Carbon Brief agreed that, “In 2023, wind and solar combined added more new energy to the global mix than any other source, for the first time in history.”

This is true. Renewable energy is rising in the world’s primary energy mix, hitting 14.6 per cent, and the share of fossil fuels is falling.

But look closely and the two reports committed what was once seen as the cardinal sin of journalism, burying the lede.

The big story wasn’t hard to spot; it was in the first line of the Energy Institute’s media release.

“Record global energy consumption, with coal and oil pushing fossil fuels and their emissions to record levels,” it said.

Fossil fuel consumption in the world’s primary energy mix did fall, by 0.4 per cent, but it still accounts for 81.5 per cent of the stuff that makes the world work. Oil production increased by 1.8 million barrels a day to reach a new high of 96 million barrels a day in 2023.

Let’s stick with the zeitgeist and put the good news on coal first. In Europe and North America coal consumption “has been in constant decline over the past 10 years”. But then, this: “Global coal production reached its highest-ever level, beating the previous high set the year before.”

“Whilst China is by far the largest consumer of coal (it beat its own record set in 2022 and now accounts for 56 per cent of the world’s total consumption), in 2023 India exceeded the combined consumption of Europe and North America for the first time ever,” the report says.

The only thing that is changing with coal is where it is burnt, and not much of anything has changed with the world’s consumption of oil. It all nets out to an increase in carbon emissions, exactly the opposite of what the world says it wants to do.

In Australia this week the search for a needle of truth in the energy haystack focused on the alleged ruinous cost of nuclear energy.

Having a debate about energy costs is vital because if they continue to rise it will cripple industry and further beggar the poor. The starting point should be serious scrutiny of the cost of the renewables-dominant system the government favours and what it will do to the retail price of power.

Recall Labor’s pledge to cut power bills rested on the dubious claim that wholesale electricity prices would fall because when wind and solar generate it, the fuel is free.

This thesis was neatly summed up in the beginnings of an energy haiku penned by Climate Change and Energy Minister Chris Bowen.

“The sun and wind don’t send a bill.”

Alas, the retailer does, and prices keep going up.

Stephen Wilson, an Adjunct Professor in the School of Mechanical and Mining Engineering at the University of Queensland, has tackled this myth in a new report for the Institute of Public Affairs titled “The Ruinous Cost of Free Energy”.

He points out what all energy ministers ignore: that the cost of wholesale electricity is not set by the lowest cost of generation on the National Electricity Market. It is set by the highest. And the size of the bill for consumers and taxpayers does not rest on the wholesale price alone. Australians will pay for the total system cost.

But even the wholesale electricity price won’t fall across a year under the government’s plan, because the frequent troughs of weather-dependent generation must be covered by something and whatever that something is will be expensive.

Wilson notes the cheapest system is the one we inherit, engineered in the 20th century on a foundation of low-cost mine-mouth coal.

Gas and energy expert Saul Kavonic says price spikes and scarcity in energy will cause manufacturing to be “unsustainable”.

“It can provide bulk electricity at a wholesale cost level in round numbers of about $50 per megawatt-hour (MWh) or in other words 5c per kilowatt-hour (kWh).”

With the retirement of coal, and the rise of wind and solar, the balance has shifted to an era where gas dominates price setting, as it fires up to cover renewable generation troughs. Even if gas only “meets the last megawatt of demand, it sets the spot price for all generators operating at that moment across the entire market”.

“(If) an extra unit of gas for the marginal generator is about $10 per gigajoule (GJ), then the wholesale electricity price at that moment will be about $100/MWh, which is 10c/kWh.” So, double what we once paid and entirely a function of covering the limitations of variable renewable energy.

The truth of Wilson’s thesis played out in what happened to the wholesale price during the recent cold, still nights, but this is just a halfway house on the road to ever more expensive power. The next phase will be worse.

“If the system is to be operated only on wind, solar and hydro power, with energy shuffled in and out of large and small storage assets and devices, the generation cost averaged across the energy for the total interconnected system will approach $200/MWh (20c/kWh) or more,” the report says.

“The further the system moves away from the inherited generation system in the coal-based ‘$50 cost zone’ through the gas-based ‘$100 cost zone’ and towards the wind- and solar-based ‘$200 cost zone’, the more the actual outcomes for final consumers are likely to escalate to even higher price levels.”

Wilson concludes that the lowest cost system is the one we have, and the next-lowest cost system is one built on new baseload power plants, whether they be coal or nuclear. And the focus of this entire debate should be: How do you generate zero-emissions energy without a catastrophic fall in living standards?

No doubt Wilson’s thesis will be furiously contested. But time will out. The truth will be written in your electricity bill.

Some inconvenient truths to point out to any renewables enthusiasts in your sphere of influence.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
June 29, 2024 9:58 am

Week in Pictures, the Debate, one to look forward to tonight.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
June 29, 2024 10:16 am

The media will have a brief panic attack and then go on doing what they have been doing for a long time. Both Nixon and Reagan won elections with huge majorities, but that didn’t stop the media from attacking them relentlessly. They have done much the same to every Republican candidate or President for the past sixty years.
The salvage operation today looks like (i) BBC Newshour letting their TDS hang out bigly with “Joe tells the truth badly while Trump lies competently”.
(ii) Joe fronting a crowd with better juice and saying that while he doesn’t do some things as well as he used to he still tells the truth!
(iii) Harold Ford on The Five saying that while the performance by Joe was poor, there’s nothing poor about his policies! Really? Open Border, importing democrat voters, selling the petroleum reserves, running down the military in more ways than one, wokifying so many aspects of society and ruining the future for kids, jailing the political opponents and innocent attendees at Capitol on Jan6th? Great policies.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 29, 2024 10:25 am

Recall Labor’s pledge to cut power bills rested on the dubious claim that wholesale electricity prices would fall because when wind and solar generate it, the fuel is free.

Coal, oil, gas are free too. Just lying there underground for aeons. The cost is turning them into energy. Fossil fuels have the added benefit of not ceasing to exist for days at a time.

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 29, 2024 10:27 am

At the risk of repeating myself, I’m a bit disappointed that after a quarter century of the internet, the legacy meja is still with us. Nice in a way though to see the Sydney Morning Vomit and Aged still limping along like zombies sans rivers of gold and losing money bigly for their stupid owners.

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Roger
Roger
June 29, 2024 10:28 am

The media will have a brief panic attack and then go on doing what they have been doing for a long time.

ABC radio this morning wrote Biden off.

Someone else needs to step up and save the world from another Trump presidency was the line.

Vicki
June 29, 2024 10:29 am

Article by by Peter Jennings, The Australian 29 June 2024
Forget the media circus, Julian Assange put our brave soldiers’ lives in danger

PETER JENNINGS

Now that he is out of His Majesty’s Belmarsh Prison, we will come to know the real Julian, not the figure managed so artfully over the past decade by the Assange fan club. 

Julian Assange has returned to Australia and into the arms of his family after reaching a plea deal with the United States.
Anthony Albanese is, as usual, describing the situation rather than defining it. “Look, I think that there will continue to be different views about Julian Assange and his activity,” he told a media gaggle on Thursday. The Prime Minister is just relieved that “this saga is over”.

Albanese should be worried that the next phase of the saga is about to begin. Whatever Assange has in mind for his future, it won’t involve being obliging to Albo.Could the Prime Minister even articulate the “different views” that people are supposed to have about Assange? We are unlikely to find out.Albanese had the sense to stay away from Canberra airport although the instinct must surely have run deep to jump into C1 with Toto and charge for a photo opportunity. The challenge for the PM will be to milk what credit he can from facilitating the return of a driven, deeply idiosyncratic individual with the potential to become a deep headache for the political left.

Assange’s WikiLeaks shot to global prominence on July 25, 2010, when it released online what it called the Afghanistan War Diary – 91,000 reports “written by soldiers and intelligence officers, and mainly describing lethal military actions involving the United States military, (and including) intelligence information, reports of meetings with political figures, and related details”.

This act flung Canberra into a panic. What if these reports gave targetable details of Australian military operations, or named ­Afghans working with Defence or intelligence? I was deputy secretary for strategy in Defence and was tasked to lead a process reviewing the leaked material. The context is important. We were fighting a bloody counter-terrorism war at the time. 
On June 7, 2010, sapper Jacob Moerland, 21, was killed by an improvised explosive device in the Mirabad Valley of Uruzgan province. Injured in the same explosion was sapper Darren Smith, 25. He was evacuated by helicopter and later died of his wounds. On June 21, privates Scott Palmer, 27, Timothy Aplin, 38, and Benjamin Chuck, 27, all serving with the special forces, were killed on operations in a Blackhawk helicopter crash. Then on July 9, private Nathan Bewes, 23, was killed and another soldier wounded by an IED in Uruzgan’s Chora Valley. 

A fortnight later, Assange’s WikiLeaks release of uncensored battlefield reports put our forces, indeed the whole of the international coalition in Afghanistan, and the many brave Afghans fighting with us, under serious risk.
The only group that could benefit from this tactical information was the Taliban.

I mention the names of these fine soldiers to help the Prime Minister understand how it is that some people may have “different views” about Assange. Many more ADF deaths and woundings followed. The essence of political leadership is to separate the spin from what truly matters rather than pretend that different views are just happy celebrations of ­diversity.
On Sky News on Wednesday, The Australian’s Washington ­correspondent Adam Creighton argued that “in the 14 years this stuff’s been out there, you know, there has basically been no damage at all”. “Those who attack Assange, they claim that, you know, he has caused enormous danger to various people but I just don’t see that has been borne out in reality. And frankly, even if it is true then that’s the price of, you know, knowing the truth.”“The truth” looks different looking backward from, you know, the safety of a television studio.

At the time, in the middle of Australia’s most serious combat operations since the Vietnam War, Assange threw a bomb into the middle of the ADF.
No one was taking this risk more seriously than Stephen Smith, then foreign minister, soon to become defence minister, and Kevin Rudd, who in June 2010 had just lost the prime ministership, but would become foreign minister in September of that year. WikiLeaks kept throwing bombs. In October 2010, 391,832 combat reports from Iraq were put online, again uncensored. And beginning in November 2010, tens of thousands of State Department cables started to be released. 

The Australian Washington Correspondent Adam Creighton discusses whether Julian Assange’s publishing of classified material on Wikileaks was justified.One of those cables, marked secret, reported that in 2009, then prime minister Rudd told the US embassy that Afghanistan “scared the hell out of him”. He was right to be so worried.

It is by no means clear that the material put online by Assange did not cause deaths. After President Joe Biden’s disastrous decision to withdraw from Afghanistan in ­August 2021, we know that the ­Taliban targeted Afghans who worked for the International Security Assistance Force. The combat reports have never been taken off the WikiLeaks site. The release of the State Department cables caused significant disruption to Western intelligence operations globally, including the urgent withdrawal of exposed agents. Some of Assange’s supporters may celebrate that as a dismantling of an evil state apparatus, but that would be a case of not “knowing the truth” so much as just being unable to handle it. 

The biggest geopolitical beneficiaries of WikiLeaks were Russia and China. They don’t indulge quirky libertarians like Assange. By contrast, the democracies, particularly the US, suffered. Reading through the combat reports and the cables, the picture that emerges is not one of the Deep State malignly plotting, or that of a war machine endlessly committing war crimes. These are fantasy views, animating fringe-dwellers on the hard left and right of politics.What is revealed is flawed democracies fighting confused wars with barely coherent strategic planning, imperfect knowledge and limited resources. Mistakes get made. The benefit of the US and Australian systems is that we will regularly admit to the fault.

A fair reading of the State Department cables would judge that American diplomats are, very often, savvy judges of character and political processes.
Is it news to anyone that the US embassy thought Rudd was a “control freak”?As a Defence official closely engaged with a variety of different governments, I can reveal that the heart of modern democracy is not an all-knowing, all-controlling “Deep State” – you will find that only in China. What we have is the Shallow State – something that looks more like a sweaty and short-sighted clown troop riding the dodgem cars. 

Based Politics Podcast Co-host and Journalist Brad Polumbo says WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange acted “reckless” and in a “haphazard way” to leak sensitive US documents.That is what WikiLeaks reveals. Spare me the nonsense about fearlessly exposing the truth. 
What happens next? Assange could turn his gaze towards how successive Australian governments have increasingly misused national security classifications to cover up political stupidity.It has been a long time since the security classifications of “confidential”, “secret” and “top secret” have been used, as intended, to control information of genuine ­national security significance. 

The government failed to release a recent report by David Peever on innovation and the Defence Strategic Review by Stephen Smith and Sir Angus Houston, and they did so on spurious national ­security grounds. 
Albanese has created a new role for himself as the bringer-home of incarcerated Australians. He does not mention the Islamic State ­jihadi brides and children returned in October 2022 in his roll call of success.
The good news for Albanese is that DFAT reports 318 cases of Australians imprisoned overseas in 2022-23, including 49 in China, 47 in the US and 30 in Vietnam. Will they all get a phone call from the Prime Minister upon return? How about a private jet with Rudd and Smith in attendance? One hopes both these gentlemen are profoundly embarrassed by having to accompany Assange. That could only have been a prime ministerial call and was completely unnecessary.On Thursday morning ABC Radio, Stella Assange asked only for privacy for her family in comments reminiscent of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle, surely the only close competitors for such media attention. But I can’t see ­Julian marketing his own brand of dog biscuits. 

Instead, he may consider politics. In an election for half the Senate, a 14.3 per cent vote – a “quota” – lands a Senate position. With global name recognition, Assange will threaten the Greens for a Senate spot in any state in the country. Assange previously ran for a Senate position for the WikiLeaks Party in 2013. An early disturber of Assange’s privacy might be a call from Adam Bandt who, presumably, would rather have Assange in the Greens tent than out of it. Bandt could see Assange as a political threat. There are plenty of inner metropolitan seats in Sydney and Melbourne where Assange would stand a solid chance off knocking off a Labor or Greens incumbent.

For the rest of us, including the thousands who maintain onerous security clearances, the image of Albanese’s grinning phone call welcoming Assange home will ­linger. Given the government’s obsession with secrecy and information control, common decency and a touch of political astuteness would suggest the PM should give Assange a wide berth. Assange was found guilty by our closest ally of conspiracy to obtain and disclose national defence information. The man is no hero. The same action would put any Defence official in prison. Albanese should acknowledge that, out of respect for the thousands of loyal Australians who ­uphold our national security.
 
Peter Jennings is director of Strategic Analysis Australia and was executive director of the Australian Strategic Policy Institute from 2012 to 2022. He is a former deputy secretary for strategy in the Defence Department (2009-12).

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 29, 2024 10:32 am

Biden’s FB page.
“Folks I may not walk as easily or talk as smoothly as I used to.
I might not debate as well as I used to.
But what I do know is how to tell the truth”.
FMD.
“I am a sandwich short of a picnic but I will tell the truth … if I can remember it”.

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 29, 2024 10:37 am

Biden is and always was a lying, amoral, immoral PoS. Filthy both figuratively and literally.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 29, 2024 10:41 am

News that the fire services in SA,Vic and NSW are meeting to discuss the fire safety issues involved with the renewable overbuild in the bush.
It takes time but we’ve finally got through to senior officers that there is definitely a problem looming.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 29, 2024 10:43 am

Branco nails it. The only ones missing were the alphabet agencies.

JC
JC
June 29, 2024 10:43 am

Given this, and given how poor a replacement Harris would be, they are stuck with Biden. Their next play is a deal with Trump, and here, the signals from people like Ackman suggests that the Regime has made their peace and is preparing for a Trump presidency.

That’s not all Ackman said. Obviously, it’s a low probability bet. Ackman suggested the Demons beg (anoint) Jamie Dimon for the candidacy, He would win, I suspect with less cheating.

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shatterzzz
June 29, 2024 10:45 am

Furgle me ..! End of June, into winter and the bloody “park” out back needed a haircut ..
Another 90 minutes of my life .. wasted ..!

JC
JC
June 29, 2024 10:47 am

Taped conversation in the DNC conference room late last evening, after the debate.

” Are you on drugs, man. We can’t print 38 million fake ballots and not get caught”.

Indolent
Indolent
June 29, 2024 10:47 am
Indolent
Indolent
June 29, 2024 10:52 am
Zatara
Zatara
June 29, 2024 10:58 am

As mentioned above:

Jeremy’s Razors: The Greatest Commercial Ever

Jeremy’s Razors: The 2nd Greatest Commercial Ever

I can attest that they are excellent blades as well as excellent ads.

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Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 29, 2024 11:02 am

News that the fire services in SA,Vic and NSW are meeting to discuss the fire safety issues involved with the renewable overbuild in the bush.

Gez – This one doesn’t pertain to the fire issue, but it is extremely relevant to residents and also animal husbandry. Wildlife also.

People Living Near Wind Turbines Vacate Their Homes Due To Harm To Pets, Livestock, Water Supply (27 Jun)

Living within 10 km of a wind turbine may be associated with serious consequences to the health and safety of people and animals.

Examples include:

• limb deformities in horses

• birth defects (born with missing eyes and tails) in cattle, chickens born with crossed beaks

• 264% higher cortisol (stress) levels in forest animals

• enhanced aggression and erratic behavior in pets and livestock (such as kicking newborn calves)

• higher rates of cancer

• stillbirths and miscarriages, fertility declines, prolapsed birthing

• contaminated, gray water wells with 14,000 times higher levels of black shale

I’ve seen a lot of such reports over the last 10 or so years, all of which get buried by the usual suspects. The infrasound issue is real and has significant effects that no one in high castles want to know about.

Zippster
Zippster
June 29, 2024 11:03 am

Biden is a professional corruptocrat and grifter and he will never step aside, Asking him to take one for the party is like asking a mafia boss to take one for his men. He will need to be battered around the head with a baseball bat and only then can they cart the corpse out of the door.

Juice him up harder, nothing some meth or amphetamines cant fix for 90 minutes.

Zatara
Zatara
June 29, 2024 11:07 am
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 29, 2024 11:08 am

Roger at 10:28

ABC radio this morning wrote Biden off.

Someone else needs to step up and save the world from another Trump presidency was the line.

Something similar on ABC TV last night.
“Biden fumbled the ball and let Trump off the hook for his multiple lies!”
Interesting to look at that Hannity link someone put up on the old thread.
Biden was at some post debate rally mumbling “Don’t worry, the fact checkers will be on to him tomorrow”.
Still clinging to the belief that, no matter what you say or do, the faithful media will go into Trump bashing mode, so all good.
Again, there is something suspicious about the way a previously compliant media executed a perfect 180 degree turn in unison yesterday.

Vicki
June 29, 2024 11:17 am

Lots of contributors here have health issues as the years pass. So here is an encouraging remark from Edith Wharton:

“In spite of illness, in spite even of the arch-enemy, sorrow, one can remain alive long past the usual date of disintegration if one is unafraid of change, insatiable in intellectual curiosity, interested in big things, and happy in small ways”.

shatterzzz
June 29, 2024 11:18 am

Just realised , yesterday June 28 .. 57 years in Oz ……..

Zippster
Zippster
June 29, 2024 11:21 am
Zippster
Zippster
June 29, 2024 11:23 am
cohenite
June 29, 2024 11:28 am

KevinM
 June 29, 2024 2:51 am

Genuine warning, DO NOT click!
Definitely not cute owls but they are happy to pose. Why?
God only knows.

You bastard, that’s criminal. The real thing: cute owl.

Zippster
Zippster
June 29, 2024 11:30 am
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 29, 2024 11:35 am

“In spite of illness, in spite even of the arch-enemy, sorrow, one can remain alive long past the usual date of disintegration if one is unafraid of change, insatiable in intellectual curiosity, interested in big things, and happy in small ways”.

People with MND and terminal cancers will be pleased to hear that it is a matter of choice.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 29, 2024 11:45 am

Where’s m0nster?

Zatara
Zatara
June 29, 2024 11:46 am

 ‘the once-unthinkable now seems an imminent reality’.

In the upcoming snap legislative elections the right is widely expected to become the largest party in France’s parliament.

Macronism is all but done it seems.

Dunny Brush
Dunny Brush
June 29, 2024 11:46 am

Age headline says Biden has bounced back today and looks “alive and feisty”. Bless.

cohenite
June 29, 2024 11:47 am

If the demorats bring in obamas hubbie will Trump demand a sex test.

Official Gov’t Docs Expose Michelle Obama’s 14 Year History as a Man (rumble.com)

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 29, 2024 11:55 am

The Paywallian reporting that Bannon says it must be the Wookie.

m0nty
m0nty
June 29, 2024 11:58 am

First post-debate POTUS poll by MorningConsult: Biden gains a point to lead by one.

Media and DNC frightbats might have underestimated how much voters listened to the content of the answers, rather than just paying superficial attention to style. Trump ranted like a madman.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 29, 2024 12:00 pm

mUnty!

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 29, 2024 12:06 pm

Montys talking point.

“Dont vote for the lucid man with energy who was comprehensible”…

sad.
Very low energy.
Brainworms.

vr
vr
June 29, 2024 12:09 pm

From the WSJ editorial board

But the bitter truth for Democrats after Thursday is that Mr. Trump’s liabilities may not matter if Mr. Biden is the party nominee. Mr. Trump at least looked vigorous and reminded voters of the pre-Covid economy. Mr. Biden looked like a feeble man no American should want going head to head with Mr. Putin or China’s Xi Jinping.

One inevitable question is why those closest to Mr. Biden let him run again. We and many others warned them. It was clearly a selfish act for him to seek a second term. But did they really think they could hide his decline from the public for an entire election campaign? It’s hard to believe they wanted this early debate as a way to change the campaign in their favor.

The debate instead has exposed him and their long cover-up of the truth. If they believe that Mr. Trump is the threat to democracy they claim, they did a disservice to the country by nominating Mr. Biden again. They owe an apology to Dean Phillips, the sole Democrat willing to challenge the President.

All of this presents Democrats with an excruciating choice. Mr. Biden has the delegates to win the nomination, and the only way he won’t be the nominee is if he decides to withdraw. The question is whether any prominent Democrats will now break from their party-wide omertà and call on the President to consider stepping aside. Perhaps there will be a delegation of the President’s closest friends willing to tell him so privately.

A Biden withdrawal would create some temporary panic as Democrats seek a new nominee. Vice President Kamala Harris isn’t the answer. But others would come to the fore as candidates, and the Democratic convention would command the attention of the world. You know Mr. Trump is counting on Democrats to stick with Mr. Biden, but the country deserves a better choice.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 29, 2024 12:11 pm

Somebody tell mUnty san the war’s over.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 29, 2024 12:12 pm

ABC radio this morning wrote Biden off.

Funny. People on the right say something and progressives erupt in rage, calling us every bad word they can think of: bigot, white supremacist, misogynist, homophobe, racist, etc, while they themselves strut about with their hollow chests puffed out priding themselves on their intellectual doughtiness.

When, finally, the obvious becomes too much to deny they never acknowledge their opponents were right, much less apologise for the abuse. Instead they just go on, briefly pausing to nurse their egos bruised by having had to change their mind.

Instead they resent the right more, and accuse them even more of being intransigent and narrow minded because they aren’t changing their minds.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 29, 2024 12:12 pm

This is a real ad.
From a real* state in Australia.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1806825047220519099

*Sicktoria anyway.

“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 29, 2024 12:13 pm

One thing I’ve not seen anything about is Biden’s physical appearance.

In close ups he looked like a cadaver that had been embalmed by a particularly enthusiastic bunch of ancient Egyptian priests. Like a dessicated glazed ham coated with Gladwrap.

All I can think is the concoction they’ve had him on in the last year or so is doing what ice does to a person.

Zatara
Zatara
June 29, 2024 12:19 pm

Polls Post-Debate (fivethirtyeight.com):
Survey USA – Trump 45%, Biden 43% (Trump +2)
The New York Post – Trump 45%, Biden 38% (Trump +7)

Yesterday BEFORE Debate (realclearpolitics.com):
NY Times/Sienna – Trump 48%, Biden 44% (Trump +4)

Direction of Country
Reuters/Ipsos – Right 13%, Wrong 68% (Wrong +55%)
NYT/Sienna – Right 24%, Wrong 66% (Wrong +42%)

26 June
Quinnipiac – Trump 49%, Biden 45% (Trump +4)

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Luzu
Luzu
June 29, 2024 12:27 pm

I guess this where we can be thankful for the truly venal nature that Jill Biden possesses. No way will the FLOTUS crown be prised from her grip.

So for Biden, he either dies or stays on the ballot. He will not step aside.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
June 29, 2024 12:37 pm

The debate instead has exposed him and their long cover-up of the truth.
The destruction of the USA from within by the embedded people in so many positions has proceeded with the complete connivance of lefty MSM. They have lied to the public and should be held responsible.

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 29, 2024 12:44 pm

Agree- Marxists took over arts, meja and ejucation. All these skin suits need to be abandoned and allowed to die as they deserve to.

m0nty
m0nty
June 29, 2024 12:47 pm

To the extent that Trump was lucid and comprehensible, he:

  • refused to rule out another insurrection
  • took full credit for Roe vs Wade
  • had nothing to say at all on policy
  • answered every single policy question by attacking migrants

He delivered dozens of lies with confidence, because he is a confidence man. We knew that already.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 29, 2024 12:49 pm

The content of what Biden had to say, eh, m0nster.
Let’s go to the CNN transcript …

We’d be able to right – wipe out his debt. We’d be able to help make sure that – all those things we need to do, childcare, elder care, making sure that we continue to strengthen our healthcare system, making sure that we’re able to make every single solitary person eligible for what I’ve been able to do with the COVID – excuse me, with dealing with everything we have to do with.

Look, if – we finally beat Medicare.

Makes sense to me.

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 29, 2024 12:54 pm

Biden filth, for filth he is, was actually forced to withdraw from the demonratic nomination in 1988 after being caught lying about being in the top ten in his shitty law skool.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
June 29, 2024 12:55 pm

Message to Monty San – “This is your Emperor. We must surrender. Come out from the dark, dank jungle of the mind you inhabit and hand yourself in to the people in charge. I say this with complete authority for now, even though someone has stolen all my clothes. No, come to think of it, that actually happened years ago but my loyal media kept it quiet.”

cohenite
June 29, 2024 12:58 pm

He delivered dozens of lies with confidence, because he is a confidence man. We knew that already.

What lies dickless. All the lies were the corpse’s and the demorats.

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 29, 2024 1:00 pm

Odd that someone of the left so passionately hates someone who is all about opportunities & security for people of modest means.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 29, 2024 1:01 pm

Dover makes a good point.
To replace Dementia Joe as candidate necessitates replacing him as President – not legally, but politically.
Putting Kamala in the big chair, even with adult supervision, is untenable.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 29, 2024 1:11 pm

‘Palace decision’: PM over Ben Roberts-Smith awardNoah Yim
5 minutes ago

Anthony Albanese has distanced himself from an award reportedly in line for disgraced former soldier Ben Roberts-Smith.
The ex-SAS soldier was reportedly welcomed to Western Australia’s Government House to receive an honour from King Charles III, the Nine newspapers reported.
This comes after Roberts-Smith was last year found by a Federal Court judge, on the balance of probabilities, to have been involved in the unlawful killings of four detainees while on deployment in Afghanistan.
The Prime Minister told Channel 9 on Saturday morning that “this isn’t a decision of the government”.
“This was the decision of the palace to give all VC (Victoria Cross) recipients a further award.
“There’s ongoing legal action – potentially – on these issues. So given the government’s engagement, it’s important that there not be interference in that.
“But it certainly wasn’t a government decision.”

Roger
Roger
June 29, 2024 1:15 pm

Odd that someone of the left so passionately hates someone who is all about opportunities & security for people of modest means.

Not really, if you think about it.

A permanent class of poor people – preferably dependent on government – is essential to the Left’s success.

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Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 29, 2024 1:15 pm

m0nty
 June 29, 2024 11:58 am

First post-debate POTUS poll by MorningConsult: Biden gains a point to lead by one.

As your namesake Monty Burns would say … “Exxccellent!”.
The longer Dementia Joe stays in, the better for Trump.
Of course, if Sniffler Joe runs, the focus will be on VP. Yeah, they always talk about “a heartbeat away”, but this time voters will have a high degree of certainty that Crooked Joe won’t make it through the four years.
So it can’t be Kamal-toe.
Newsome won’t risk burning a potential future term by being thrust into the job with a touch over two years to run.
So who can they find who is credible enough with voters to be seen as a backstop, but also stupid enough to be shackled to The Big Guy (10%)?

cohenite
June 29, 2024 1:21 pm

FMD. Nick Shirley goes out and asks folks, mainly black, before and after the debate who they’re going to vote for:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyXHQHqJpEs

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 29, 2024 1:24 pm

A permanent class of poor people – preferably dependent on government – is essential to the Left’s success.

Like what Johnson did. What vile creature he was.

JC
JC
June 29, 2024 1:26 pm

m0nty

June 29, 2024 11:58 am

First post-debate POTUS poll by MorningConsult: Biden gains a point to lead by one.

Media and DNC frightbats might have underestimated how much voters listened to the content of the answers, rather than just paying superficial attention to style. Trump ranted like a madman.

Agreed Monst. Biden performed superbly. Ignore betting markets

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 29, 2024 1:26 pm

Miltonf
 June 29, 2024 12:54 pm

Biden filth, for filth he is, was actually forced to withdraw from the demonratic nomination in 1988 after being caught lying about being in the top ten in his shitty law skool.

The Dimocrats never forget.
They saw that and thought they could do the same to Dubya in 2004.
Documents surfaced purporting to be unfavourable internal assessments of Dubya’s performance in the Air National Guard in 1972/73.
Dan Rather (pronounced “Wather”) eagerly wan the weport on CBS, only to find that the documents had been produced on Microsoft Word, which wasn’t around until well after 1973.
We await Wussiagate 2.0.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 29, 2024 1:31 pm

Biden’s latest slogan …
“Sure, I’m shithouse.
But I’m the best we got.”

duncanm
duncanm
June 29, 2024 1:33 pm

A really good thread from the energy expert at CIS explaining all that is wrong with CSIRO’s gencost report.
https://x.com/QuixoticQuant/status/1794977505344184510

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 29, 2024 1:38 pm

I seem to recall during the 2016 Dimocrat primaries, the fix was in for the Gin-soaked Scrag. No matter how rank and file voted in primaries, there were “super delegates” who held a majority of convention votes.
So clearly the party has centralised mechanisms to determine candidates.
Yeah, I know, as declared candidate, Joe could hang on, but the party could change that with the stroke of a pen.
This “Weekend at Biden’s” will be all about a negotiated settlement, which will probably involve Joe getting a Purple Heart for falling off his bike, and Jill being appointed to some plum role.

Roger
Roger
June 29, 2024 1:40 pm

First post-debate POTUS poll by MorningConsult: Biden gains a point to lead by one.

Meanwhile, the Daily Mail reports that American celebrities are peeling away from Biden & calling their NZ real estate agents.

Chuckle.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
June 29, 2024 1:54 pm

Roger @ 0958. Great article but chasing up the research is turning out to be problematic.

Googled “Ruinous cost of free energy” and got zero on Stephens research except a link to Ulhman article and useless white noise unrelated to my search but at a stretch semi related. I did try multiple permutations & even look through IPA.

Hmmm. Seems Goolag is getting smart with subjects it wants to hide from your perusal.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 29, 2024 1:58 pm

Montys moist for Kamel-toe.

Because no-one expects Joe to survice another 4 years as anything other than a desiccated brain in a jar.

JC
JC
June 29, 2024 2:06 pm

The corpse and the demon party are like a modern version of Boss Tweed and Tammany Hall.

Rosie
Rosie
June 29, 2024 2:10 pm

Biden has been facelifted and botoxed to the Max.
I remember someone claimed body double back in the day except the ‘after’ was a photo of his brother.
How many hours is he putting in a day?
4?
I was unlucky enough to see a couple of minutes of some ABC pale blue jacket wearing pundit last night.
Apparently Trump is a danger to democracy because if he gets in he’ll make himself ‘president for life’.
If only he’d had the forethought to do that last time.
Not to mention he’s already an old man.
No wonder no-one watches the ABC.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 29, 2024 2:11 pm

What IS noticeable – and sinister – is the ‘about face’ by the media. They could put a team in the Olympic Games Synchronised Swimming event, not practice, get on the booze the night before, and still take the gold medal.

cohenite
June 29, 2024 2:16 pm

These 2 appear to have the perfect marriage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR3uPr1hXhQ

Zippster
Zippster
June 29, 2024 2:27 pm
Roger
Roger
June 29, 2024 2:39 pm

Googled “Ruinous cost of free energy” and got zero on Stephens research except a link to Ulhman article and useless white noise

Ditto, RD.

Will have to have a look around the IPA site.

Several other links to his work, though.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
June 29, 2024 2:48 pm

Does anybody know what the medal is that the King has awarded to Ben Roberts Smith and other VC recipients? Perhaps Kings Coronation medal where Coronation and Jubilee medals are traditionally given to all living VC holders. Either way his pending legal issues have nothing to do with the medal.
July is when the current Chief of Defence steps down and I am betting shortly after there will be some announcement about medals for Afghanistan. Better he is no longer in post when that is done and it will be a Navy guy in charge.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 29, 2024 2:53 pm

Back in D-Town.

There was a billboard at Mascot (early, very early) this morning explaining that Time magazine put out their latest edition, and apropos of the appalling display Biden put forward in the first debate.

The cover is all red. There is only one word on the cover aside from ‘Time’, and that word was:

‘Panic’.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
June 29, 2024 2:54 pm

Tommy sprung from immigration purgatory in Canada:

https://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2024/06/28/free-tommy-robinson-4/

Via SDA, click on the video hyperlink.

Tom
Tom
June 29, 2024 3:02 pm

Bugger me: 2019 Melbourne Cup winner Vow and Declare (J: B. Egan; T: D.O’Brien) has just won his second Tattersalls Cup (2400m) at Eagle Farm — as an eight-year-old gelding.

PS: I was on him five years ago on the Cup. What a war horse.

Black Ball
Black Ball
June 29, 2024 3:02 pm

FMD monty give it up you silly khunt.
You are a turd like Biden and the rest, true enemies of the West and all it stands for.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
June 29, 2024 3:06 pm

Borne

Related, the present RSM(A) another you go girlzzz type from Signals Corps (Must have changed as I remember as a kid all the RSM’s I saw were cranky Viet vets with an ICB or similar equally cranky Armoured Corp types). Apparently Signals Corp was fairly prominent in the Kings Birthday honours for……. You guessed it doing their job.

The honours and awards system is broken at all levels.

Zippster
Zippster
June 29, 2024 3:24 pm

Hitler reacts to the Biden-Trump presidential debate
the hitler rant starts half way through

Last edited 23 days ago by Zippster
Tom
Tom
June 29, 2024 3:43 pm

Hitler reacts to the Biden-Trump presidential debate

Hitler: “Biden is too old. When he was born, I was still alive.”

Magnificent!

Must-watch entertainment.

Zippster
Zippster
June 29, 2024 3:44 pm
Oh come on
Oh come on
June 29, 2024 3:52 pm

m0nty appears to be the only person in the entire world who, after watching the debate, thinks everything is just peachy over at Team Biden and there was nothing amiss with Biden’s debate performance at all.

Makka
Makka
June 29, 2024 3:55 pm

He delivered dozens of lies with confidence, because he is a confidence man. We knew that already.

But m0ron, CNN has Fact Checked Biden and found that he lied his arse off in the debate. Here are at least 11 big lies told by Biden that CNN has easily exposed.

It was a Demorat debacle. And I’m concerned about the actions the deviant left will take.

https://x.com/WallStreetSilv/status/1806659354290008093

Pogria
Pogria
June 29, 2024 3:55 pm

Muntsac today, after yesterday’s debate.

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Pogria
Pogria
June 29, 2024 3:59 pm
shatterzzz
June 29, 2024 4:07 pm

And it’s with great sadness that I must announce I’m bringing my home “baking” career to a close .. After several years of never not having a home baked cake sitting on the kitchen bench … I’m thru! .. Woolworths have been upping the price of Green’s ready mix cake ingredients for the past 2 years from a modest $1.50 to a now $4.75 and it just isn’t economical to bother with once you buy some extra filling and add the egg(s) ..
Thankfully, I don’t have a “sweet” tooth so the cakes were a treat rather than a staple and life will go on ……..
F**K You .. WOOLWORTHS ……….!

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 29, 2024 4:10 pm

Shows how the wonderful economic policies of the Useless Effin Liars and that jug eared treasurer on training wheels is. Every year for for last 8 years we’ve had the beach house rented to a group that stay between 4 and six weeks. This year 2 1/2 weeks. Noticed other places only seem to have a merc, beemer, audi or lexus parked outside. Place that used to be rented often at the cheap end of the market is up for sale. Rarely see anyone there.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
June 29, 2024 4:18 pm

From Daily Mail article about Ben Roberts Smith medal.

“Australian Defence Force Chief Angus Taylor (should be Campbell) has recommended to Defence Minister Richard Marles that a group of special forces commanders be stripped of their medals over the misconduct of the units”.

As I indicated earlier today this can only be done after CDF Campbell is gone. Reason being he is one of the commanders himself. I guess it depends how high up the accountability goes? Maximum LtCol in the field ? That way Campbell not having to surrender his Distinguished Service Cross.

New CDF technically “clean” as Navy. Recent articles also suggest a belated Victoria Cross for Vietnam might also be announced at same time to lessen the blow from the Afghan medals announcement.

Watch this space as Defence fuck up morale even more.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
June 29, 2024 4:20 pm

Uh oh I used a bad word and have post waiting for approval.
F@@k!

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 29, 2024 4:24 pm

There is an explanation for mUntyfa’s ignorance of the latest DNC talking points.

After observing his recent output, the DNC has decided he is too stupid to be useful.

Rosie
Rosie
June 29, 2024 4:29 pm

You must have an expensive Woolies Shatterzzz.
The RRP at Victorian Woolworths is $3.50 and on special this week for $2.80.

Rosie
Rosie
June 29, 2024 4:30 pm

And you know you can get woolies gift cards for 5% off if you are the holder of a senior’s card?
https://www.nsw.gov.au/community-services/seniors-card/deals-discounts/woolworths-seniors-discount

Makka
Makka
June 29, 2024 5:00 pm

RBA forced into a humiliating rate-raising cycle

In a huge embarrassment for the central bank, its next move in interest rates should be higher, not lower.The Reserve Bank of Australia is truly screwed. It has once again been humiliated by a predictably protracted, and now re-accelerating, inflation crisis that it refuses to tackle for fear of upsetting its political masters, who control negotiations over the future of monetary policy setting.

https://www.afr.com/wealth/personal-finance/rba-forced-into-a-humiliating-rate-raising-cycle-20240624-p5jo4f

Governed by fkg morons.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 29, 2024 5:04 pm

“Thursday, down here in the Shoalhaven was a lot of birdies getting it on.”

Ranga, life is always busy looking after itself.

How lovely today it was to see some young girls aged around eight dressed in their football gear stand at the wide open entrance to the hall where we older girls were going through our paces. Then they started to follow us in our jazz ballet steps – second position, plies, four quick chasses, heel-toe-heel and lunge and arabesque, and turn and same on the other side, and turn and circle and jump-land into a modified fifth position, arms just so, etc, all done to a very heavy bass beat. This little group were so serious, and so cute, and so very feminine in spite of the footie strip, desperately wanting to do what the older ladies were doing, and the older ladies shaped up well for them, no slacking in front of this audience.

I think the desire to dance, to take the beat up, is inherent in all humans, as is music. These artifacts show were the earliest forms of human sociality in groups. We note dance’s absence, as when Biden was the only one who wasn’t bopping along in that video. Clearly, something was very wrong with him then.

Zatara
Zatara
June 29, 2024 5:18 pm

Picked up an interesting read recently: -Douglas Murray, ‘The Strange Death of Europe: Immigration, Identity, Islam’

“However greatly you might wish to benefit from an endless supply of cheap labour, a wider range of cuisine or the salving of a generation’s conscience, you still would not have a right to wholly transform your society. Because that which you inherited that is good should also be passed on. Even were you to decide that some of the views or lifestyles of your ancestors could be improved upon, it does not follow that you should hand over to the next generation a society that is chaotic, fractured and unrecognisable.”

“The definitive discourse on European replacement migration, the powers that drive it, and its devastating social, economic, and political consequences.”

Zippster
Zippster
June 29, 2024 5:20 pm

What could have possibly caused a spike in inflation it’s a complete mystery?!?

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Eyrie
Eyrie
June 29, 2024 5:26 pm

In a huge embarrassment for the central bank, its next move in interest rates should be higher, not lower.The Reserve Bank of Australia is truly screwed.
Why is this embarrassing for the RBA? The political masters cause this by spending money we don’t have.

Pogria
Pogria
June 29, 2024 5:36 pm

Tranny kills tranny. Tranny is housed in women’s prison.
Media describe killing as Trans Activist murdered by “Woman”.

https://thepostmillennial.com/just-in-male-trans-suspect-in-murder-of-trans-activist-held-in-minnesota-womens-prison?utm_campaign=64470

Barry
Barry
June 29, 2024 5:43 pm

RBA should have gone 1% x 5 times.
These ghey 0.25% increases just indicate that they’re not serious.
They should have gone hard and telegraphed that they were going to crush inflation.
They actually telegraphed that they are weak.

So yes, 100% RBA fault and they should be condemned.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 29, 2024 5:50 pm

Forget the media circus, Julian Assange put our brave soldiers’ lives in dangerPeter Jennings
18 hours ago.
Updated 4 minutes ago
279 comments
Julian Assange emerged from his charter jet in Canberra on Wednesday night in a dark suit, white shirt and thin tie, raising his right arm in a clenched-fist salute. Perhaps Assange wanted to echo the image of Nelson Mandela walking out of the Victor Verster prison on February 11, 1990.
But Assange is no Mandela. He will not go on to lead this country or be a global figure of reconciliation. Assange is and will remain a disrupter. Now that he is out of His Majesty’s Belmarsh Prison, we will come to know the real Julian, not the figure managed so artfully over the past decade by the Assange fan club.

Julian Assange has returned to Australia and into the arms of his family after reaching a plea deal with the United States.
Anthony Albanese is, as usual, describing the situation rather than defining it. “Look, I think that there will continue to be different views about Julian Assange and his activity,” he told a media gaggle on Thursday. The Prime Minister is just relieved that “this saga is over”.
Albanese should be worried that the next phase of the saga is about to begin. Whatever Assange has in mind for his future, it won’t involve being obliging to Albo.
Could the Prime Minister even articulate the “different views” that people are supposed to have about Assange? We are unlikely to find out.
Albanese had the sense to stay away from Canberra airport although the instinct must surely have run deep to jump into C1 with Toto and charge for a photo opportunity. The challenge for the PM will be to milk what credit he can from facilitating the return of a driven, deeply idiosyncratic individual with the potential to become a deep headache for the political left.
Assange’s WikiLeaks shot to global prominence on July 25, 2010, when it released online what it called the Afghanistan War Diary – 91,000 reports “written by soldiers and intelligence officers, and mainly describing lethal military actions involving the United States military, (and including) intelligence information, reports of meetings with political figures, and related details”.

This act flung Canberra into a panic. What if these reports gave targetable details of Australian military operations, or named ­Afghans working with Defence or intelligence?
I was deputy secretary for strategy in Defence and was tasked to lead a process reviewing the leaked material. The context is important. We were fighting a bloody counter-terrorism war at the time.
On June 7, 2010, sapper Jacob Moerland, 21, was killed by an improvised explosive device in the Mirabad Valley of Uruzgan province. Injured in the same explosion was sapper Darren Smith, 25. He was evacuated by helicopter and later died of his wounds.
On June 21, privates Scott Palmer, 27, Timothy Aplin, 38, and Benjamin Chuck, 27, all serving with the special forces, were killed on operations in a Blackhawk helicopter crash. Then on July 9, private Nathan Bewes, 23, was killed and another soldier wounded by an IED in Uruzgan’s Chora Valley.
A fortnight later, Assange’s WikiLeaks release of uncensored battlefield reports put our forces, indeed the whole of the international coalition in Afghanistan, and the many brave Afghans fighting with us, under serious risk.
The only group that could benefit from this tactical information was the Taliban.

Zippster
Zippster
June 29, 2024 5:51 pm
Zippster
Zippster
June 29, 2024 6:01 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 29, 2024 6:08 pm

https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2024/06/yasser-crackafat.html

In June, 1964, an Egyptian, on the payroll of the Muslim Brotherhood, held up a Jordanian flag, with the star removed, and began “3,000 years of Palestinian history.”

John H.
John H.
June 29, 2024 6:21 pm

Indolent

 June 29, 2024 8:52 am

It’s sad that we’ve reached the point where this can even be estimated. I don’t think you need to be a doctor to see that it’s self-evident. If you pump yourself full of drugs to achieve your self-vision what do you expect.

Transgender and Gender Nonconforming Cancer Survivors Have Higher Odds of Most Conditions

The range of conditions made me suspicious that this has a genetic component. I had a hunch this is related to SOX 9(SRY) which plays a critical role in testis formation in utero. SOX 9 is involved in a host organ developmental trajectories. I checked. It is. This is a fascinating genetic issue. Another example of why physiology is so frustratingly difficult to model and understand!

Chronic Health Conditions, Disability, and Physical and Cognitive Limitations among LGBTQ+ Cancer Survivors | Cancer Epidemiology, Biomarkers & Prevention | American Association for Cancer Research (aacrjournals.org)

Results:
Of 40,990 cancer survivors, 1,715 were LGBTQ+. LGBTQ+ survivors had significantly higher age-adjusted prevalence of all outcomes. The prevalence of all outcomes was the highest among TGNC survivors, except for depressive disorders and cognitive limitations. LGBTQ+ survivors had higher odds of reporting asthma [adjusted OR (aOR): 1.5; 95% confidence interval (CI), 1.2–1.9], depressive disorders (aOR: 1.9; 95% CI, 1.6–2.4), kidney disease (aOR: 1.5; 95% CI, 1.1–2.1), stroke (aOR: 1.7; 95% CI, 1.3–2.3), diabetes (aOR: 1.3; 95% CI, 1.0–1.6), vision disability (aOR: 1.6; 95% CI, 1.2–2.2), cognitive limitations (aOR: 2.3; 95% CI, 1.8–2.9), difficulty walking (aOR: 1.7; 95% CI, 1.3–2.0), dressing (aOR: 2.0; 95% CI, 1.5–2.7), and running errands (aOR: 1.6; 95% CI, 1.3–2.1). In TGNC models, TGNC cancer survivors had increased odds of most outcomes in comparison to cisgender survivors.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 29, 2024 6:34 pm

But I’m a creep, I’m a weirdo

What the hell am I doing here?

I don’t belong here

A song for Joe.

Radiohead – Creep (1992)

Arky
June 29, 2024 6:36 pm

Poor old Kamala.
It must be so humiliating that everyone looks at Biden doing his Bill Burr “old person permanent look of horror” face and say “He’s gotta go, we can’t possibly do this”, then they look at Cackles and go “Not her”.
She is literally the person who is supposed to step in.

Zippster
Zippster
June 29, 2024 6:38 pm

image didnt work heres the links

GDP year on year growth – economy is slowing into recession
https://tradingeconomics.com/australia/gdp-growth-annual

M3 growth
https://tradingeconomics.com/australia/money-supply-m3

look at max year M3 and extrapolate the growth to where it should be today to where it actually is. The excess money supply has a long way to go to before it is soaked up.

M1 growth – click max
you can see them trying to cut back from aug 22 to june 23 then started growing again. they went absolutely insane from mar 19 to jul 22
extrapolating prior to mar 19 to present M1 should be around $1.3T currently at $1.67T

public admin spending – select max
https://tradingeconomics.com/australia/gdp-from-public-administration
is growing without bounds

Mining and manufacturing has flatlined since covid

Arky
June 29, 2024 6:41 pm

US presidential candidates now strategically picking VPs based on who is too horrifying to be contemplated as a replacement.
”We can’t impeach: look who the replacement will be”.

132andBush
132andBush
June 29, 2024 6:42 pm

cohenite

June 29, 2024 1:21 pm

FMD. Nick Shirley goes out and asks folks, mainly black, before and after the debate who they’re going to vote for:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyXHQHqJpEs

That was disturbing.
MSM brainwashing/gaslighting is complete. Some of those people can’t say what they know they saw. Their brains won’t allow it.

Roger
Roger
June 29, 2024 6:43 pm

public admin spending – select max

https://tradingeconomics.com/australia/gdp-from-public-administration

is growing without bounds

Behold, the bedpan economy.

At least one third of new jobs are reckoned to be NDIS/aged care related.

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 29, 2024 6:52 pm

Yeah the canbra blob- attacking productive Australians- confiscatory taxation, mass immigration, irrigation, electricity. No wonder we have inflation. Interest rates are irrelevant or at best a blunt instrument.

Indolent
Indolent
June 29, 2024 6:52 pm
hzhousewife
hzhousewife
June 29, 2024 7:13 pm
Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 29, 2024 7:17 pm

Behold, the bedpan economy.

At least one third of new jobs are reckoned to be NDIS/aged care related.

I know. We can import aged and infirm and childless Chinese and the necessary Asians to look after them. After they pass away, a sustainable hydrogen cremation, ashes back to ancestral China.
Win, win, win.

Australia: the Departure Lounge Powerhouse.

No, really. No, honestly, listen…

cohenite
June 29, 2024 7:27 pm

Perhaps the most resonant and animated thing the perverted corpse said during the debate was that Trump said soldiers were losers and suckers. Trump denied this and Snopes of all places details the context for this bullshit:

Trump Called Fallen US Soldiers ‘Suckers’ and ‘Losers’? | Snopes.com

Roger
Roger
June 29, 2024 7:29 pm

Australia: the Departure Lounge Powerhouse.

No, really. No, honestly, listen…

With the right pitch, we can probably tap into some generous government funding.

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Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 29, 2024 7:36 pm

Australia: the Departure Lounge Powerhouse.

With the right pitch, we can probably get a government grant.

I was thinking something fairly modest, say $10 million, perhaps $20 million, to workshop and road-test the slogan narrative reveal.

Followed up by a CSIRO study of some sort.

Roger
Roger
June 29, 2024 7:41 pm

I was thinking something fairly modest, say $10 million, perhaps $20 million, to workshop and road-test the slogan narrative reveal.

Followed up by a CSIRO study of some sort.

Heh…who says government can’t pick winners?

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