Open Thread – Weekend 29 June 2024


Day Dreams, John Atkinson Grimshaw, late 1800s

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Rosie
Rosie
June 29, 2024 7:43 pm

“We reached out to Trump’s representatives to see if they had any supplemental evidence to help substantiate their denial, as well as for a response to renewed attention on the comments in 2023”
How can you ‘substatiate’ something didn’t happen when there is no evidence that it did happen?

Indolent
Indolent
June 29, 2024 7:44 pm
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 29, 2024 7:46 pm

Japan’s Kobayashi Pharmaceutical now probing 80 deaths over possible link to benikoji red yeast supplement

They were warned.

War Of The Worlds – The Red Weed (1978)

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
June 29, 2024 8:13 pm

Here’s a piece of typical ABC: a puff piece for the euthanasia industry that refuses to acknowledge that there could be an alternative point of view.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-06-29/nsw-report-data-voluntary-assisted-dying-state/104039592

Cassie of Sydney
June 29, 2024 8:19 pm

Greens is an Australian family owned company. They employ Australians and the mixes are ALL made locally. The reason the prices have increased is no doubt due to sky rocketing power and transport costs. This is negatively impacting many local companies. However Coles/Woolworths and IGA have weekly specials and Greens is frequently on their special list. I bake most things however Greens products are good quality and handy to have in a pantry. I particularly like the Greens’ Date Loaf mix.

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Indolent
Indolent
June 29, 2024 8:25 pm
Indolent
Indolent
June 29, 2024 8:27 pm
Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 29, 2024 8:33 pm

Excellent rendition. Have a squiz.

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DR Kocerthuset:

Lawrence of Arabia – Ouverture – Danish National Symphony Orchestra (Live)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-D897l350A

Rabz
June 29, 2024 8:34 pm

Biden ain’t given’ up the nomination …

Until he, Jillee and the Bunter experience some coincidental mysterious fatal accidents (i.e. they’re Arkancided) …

The simple fact is, having those imbeciles out front and centre allows for far more nefarious goings on behind the scenes, eh, mom jeans kenyan?

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 29, 2024 8:40 pm

Oops, DR Koncerthuset.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 29, 2024 8:41 pm

I was going to go with brain freeze from eating too much icecream but no brain to freeze. So I’m split between tsunami at the beach in Delaware or not quite jumping the shark.

Rabz
June 29, 2024 8:45 pm

BTW, any Cats hoping to look up the Bill Leak ‘toon featuring the spectacularly talentless Dim Munchkins caterwauling about the joys of being a hypocritical collectivist cockhead, good luck.

It’s been “memory holed”*.

If you own a copy of “Trigger Warning“, it’s on page 8.

*A mate texted me last night asking if it could be found – no luck, despite engaging several search engines.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 29, 2024 8:45 pm

mom jeans kenyan?

He’s very seventies.

David Dundas – Jeans On (1977)

That was a one hit wonder btw.

Rabz
June 29, 2024 8:54 pm

Leak had been fearlessly essaying the brutal reality of aboriginalgender-based violence” for many years before this relatively harmless depiction of the bleeding obvious commenced his Auto-da-fé …

So much for tall poppies.

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JC
JC
June 29, 2024 9:00 pm

Just to get things in perspective.

The star for recent US flight safety is Boeing, which has seen only about 10 US deaths since 9/11, only one of which (AFAIK) was due to mechanical problems. If someone in late 2001 had predicted this sort of Boeing safety record for the next 22 1/2 years, they would have been laughed out of the room. Why have Boeing airplanes become so astoundingly safe?

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Zatara
Zatara
June 29, 2024 9:00 pm
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Rabz
June 29, 2024 9:04 pm

Yeah, no. Linkee now workee

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Black Ball
Black Ball
June 29, 2024 10:38 pm

Peta Credlin:

If the Albanese government turns out to be a one-term wonder, last week could mark the point when things really started to fall apart.

The Prime Minister looked weak and out of touch — exactly as the Opposition is tagging him — in failing to discipline Senator Fatima Payman and for lionising Julian Assange.

With inflation ticking up, the government’s economic strategy is fraying and its response to Peter Dutton’s nuclear initiative has been, frankly, juvenile.

There’s no doubt the electorate cuts first-term governments some slack and doesn’t lightly change its mind.

But the Coalition under Peter Dutton is nothing like the outfit that looked too cocky and smug under Scott Morrison against a Labor Party that, hiding its true intentions from the public and with only 32 per cent of the primary vo

In defying conventional wisdom to oppose Labor’s divisive Voice last year, Dutton showed that he knows what he’s against: the scourge of identity politics; and in taking a justified risk to support nuclear power, he’s now showing what he’s for: achieving net zero without destroying the economy and putting out the lights.

Finally, there’s now a clear contest over something that’s vital for our future and not just the puerile personality politics. Finally, there’s a big difference between the two major parties over a matter of real policy substance: the maintenance of the affordable and reliable electricity system that’s essential for modern life.

Labor says we can trust our future to the wind and the sun; Dutton says we need power 24/7, not just when the wind blows and the sun shines, and that means making a place for the only proven form of emissions-free baseload power.

His nuclear pledge makes him the first leader to inject a note of realism and honesty into the energy debate in at least a decade, which is why he’s now neck-and-neck in the polls with Anthony Albanese as a credible alternative PM.

Albanese’s misjudgment was not so much using his influence to get Assange out of jail, because not even someone who’s more traitor than hero could be locked up forever. His mistake was thinking that the release of someone who’d put national security at risk was a cause for national celebration.

A PM who can’t wait to place a sympathetic call to an admitted felon but who couldn’t find time to visit the Perth victim of one of the foreign criminals his government had released and couldn’t find it in his heart to immediately call his Israeli counterpart after the October 7 atrocity has got his priorities wrong.

A compounding factor last week was the government awarding its new Governor-General a $200,000 pay rise at a time when most households are tightening their belts.

When the Prime Minister initially admonished Senator Payman over her use of the genocidal phrase “from the river to the sea” he was arguably extending some latitude to a political novice.

But in failing to impose any serious penalty in the wake of her crossing the floor in favour of a Greens motion in support of Palestine, he has junked 130 years of Labor history.

Never before has a Labor MP crossed the floor without sanction.

Indeed, this is only the second time in Labor’s history that an MP has crossed the floor during their time in government. The last time was under Bob Hawke when two Labor politicians crossed the floor and were immediately suspended from the party by Hawke.

And yet, with Payman, she’s told to merely miss one caucus meeting.

This is the first time a Labor rat has been allowed to stay in the ranks. The Prime Minister has either given up on internal discipline, or he’s decided that the rules don’t apply to a Muslim woman who wears a hijab because he’s fearful of blowback in seats in Western Sydney where he needs the Muslim vote to survive.

There’s more on Moisten but that’s for another day.

KevinM
KevinM
June 29, 2024 10:46 pm

Works for me, but I do the swishing.

shut
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 29, 2024 10:56 pm

Zinger from John Stewart (of all people) describing Dementia Joe’s “slack-jawed deer in the headlights” look:-
“Oh, that’s just his resting 25th Amendment face”.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 29, 2024 11:05 pm

JC
 June 29, 2024 9:00 pm

Just to get things in perspective.

The star for recent US flight safety is Boeing, which has seen only about 10 US deaths

Well, yes.
US deaths.
But there is the little matter of the MCAS cock-up which caused two 737 Maxidents and deaths of 346 people (only a small number being US citizens).

Lysnader
Lysnader
June 29, 2024 11:34 pm

Well, I’ve landed in Sicktoria and was wondering, does Melbournistan have more round-a-bouts and speed bumps than any other shitty?

calli
calli
June 30, 2024 12:57 am

Greetings from Dubrovnik! Hot as Hades and full as a goog.

We were ripped off for cool drinks and jostled and elbowed from one end of town to the other. Despairing of ever getting a seat on a shuttle, we were ripped of again for a taxi ride back to the wharf. Never again.

On a positive note, I had fun at lunch yesterday. A table mixture of Aussies and Americans, conversation inevitably turned to the candidates.

In for a penny, in for a pound and going where angels fear to tread…”I quite like Trump.”

The horror! Gazing around the concerned faces like a naughty child, I caught a twinkle and a grin. She was a Texan. 😀

calli
calli
June 30, 2024 1:35 am

I’m finding the rôle of enfant terrible far more effective than arguing sensibly about Trump.

We are now living in a post analytical world. Zero self awareness, maximum cognitive dissonance spiced with emotion and informed by an utterly demeaned and partisan media.

It’s a deadly mix if you want to engage in rational discussion.

Zatara
Zatara
June 30, 2024 1:54 am

‘Native French’ Pose ‘Serious Problem’ for Social Cohesion, Says Far-Left Leader Mélenchon

“When I was born, one in ten French people had a foreign grandparent, now it’s one in four. Consequently, those who call themselves native French pose a serious problem to the cohesion of society,” he said in comments reported by Le Journal du Dimanche.

“In the Paris region, there are thirteen million of us, including at least eight million immigrants: Corsicans, Bretons, Malians, Algerians, Moroccans… Everyone was torn from the environment from which their parents or grandparents came and put against the wall to build a society.”

I’m guessing those mean old “native French” didn’t tear anyone from anywhere to import them to Paris. They did probably expect you to assimilate when you got there though.

But hey, “diversity is our strength”, so party on.

calli
calli
June 30, 2024 2:28 am

Thought for the day

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Tom
Tom
June 30, 2024 4:00 am
KevinM
KevinM
June 30, 2024 4:47 am

Probably safe at this time of day?
n’est-ce pas?

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calli
calli
June 30, 2024 5:52 am

Thanks Tom.

After nearly nine weeks of travel, here’s one the Kittehs will understand. 😀

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calli
calli
June 30, 2024 5:55 am

And I did like this one also.

calli
calli
June 30, 2024 5:56 am

Bother. This one.

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Top Ender
Top Ender
June 30, 2024 6:58 am

Nice Calli!

Where are you now?

We are in Rabat, Malta, in an excellent old four-storey old-made-new apartment – right next door to a pub hosting a wedding.

Interesting – Western music, inc Tom Jones and Frankie, and then a lot of old standards. We spied down into the courtyard and worked out the couple are in their 50s. Then followed some traditional Italian and maybe Maltese – and now the ambulance has turned up and is carting away a groovy grannie in an oxygen mask.

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 30, 2024 7:43 am

As the major political parties have abandoned the ideologies – conservatism, social democracy, liberalism – that once gave them meaning, ‘saving the planet’ and posing as the guardians of minorities have provided a semblance of mission to their otherwise deathly technocracy.

The revenge of the centrist dads – spiked (spiked-online.com)

Zippster
Zippster
June 30, 2024 8:07 am
OpenAI Taking Steps to Block China’s Access to Its AI Tools
Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
June 30, 2024 8:23 am

Apology if this has already been posted.

The Heritage Oversight Project has identified three swing states – Georgia, Nevada and Wisconsin – where they believe removing Biden from the Democratic ticket would prevent anyone else from replacing him.

Wisconsin does not allow withdrawal from the ballot for any reason besides death, while in Nevada, no changes can be made to the ballotafter 5 p.m. on the fourth Friday in June of an election year unless ‘a nominee dies or is adjudicated insane or mentally incompetent.’ In Georgia, if Biden were to withdraw less than 60 days before the election, his name would remain on the ballot but no votes would be counted.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/06/uh-oh-another-bad-news-democrats-biden-cannot/

Pogria
Pogria
June 30, 2024 8:30 am

Zippster,
thanks for the Tucker link. It was great.
My favourite part, “Jakinda Ardhern, the retarded girl with BIG teeth”.

A perfect description of the former Kiwi PM. 😀

Rosie
Rosie
June 30, 2024 8:30 am

Malta was an English colony until the early sixties, preference for Anglosphere music not much of a surprise.
In fact doesn’t matter if you are in Spain Italy France or Portugal eityer, Anglosphere music is played everywhere, with the local stuff interspersed in bars, cafes on buses etc.
I always remember the bar owner at the agora in Marseilles singing along to Queen.
It was very amusing.

Rosie
Rosie
June 30, 2024 8:33 am

So the Dems are stuck with Biden, unless there are exceptional circumstances.
I don’t know what the concern is.
He answered all the questions.

shatterzzz
June 30, 2024 8:42 am

I realise that “Holocaust” series aren’t for everyone but this one ..
WE WERE THE LUCKY ONES .. recounts the wartime suffering of a Polish Jewish family who thru various subturfuges & separate paths survived the entire war outside the ‘camps” .. From Poland to Siberia, on to Italy & Brazil it follows various family members as they struggle to avoid falling into the NAZI “camp” system …..
Based on a true story with post war bio added into the end credits .. unvarnished & no frills life on the run/in hiding account from the book by a grandaughter, Georgia Hunter ……
Available on “free” online streamer .. HULU

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9114512/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_in_0_q_we%2520were%2520the%2520lucky%2520ones

Black Ball
Black Ball
June 30, 2024 8:51 am

James Campbell on Julian Assange:

Every now and again an event occurs that helps to clear up any doubts you might have had that Lefties see the world differently.

Most of us would probably assume progressive politicians would not want to be seen anywhere near a bloke who had skipped bail to avoid extradition over alleged sex crimes.

But if, like Julian Assange, you also happen to be a thorn in the side of the US government, different rules apply.

For some bizarre reason, the Australian government – your government – felt it was a good idea for Assange be accompanied on his journey home by not one but two former Labor politicians, Stephen Smith, our man in London, and the Ruddster himself, currently taking care of business in Washington until the commencement of the second Trump administration.

Assange, it must be remembered, took shelter in the Ecuadorean embassy in London after he lost his fight against extradition to Sweden where authorities wanted him for questioning over sexual assault allegations by two women.

That the US subsequently did seek his extradition on espionage charges does not change the fact the claim he needed to stay out of Sweden because he risked being sent to America was always absolute bullshit.

As one of his alleged victims pointed out to The Australian this weekend: “Sweden doesn’t have an extradition agreement with the US that the UK has.”

The way Assange was able to get otherwise sane people to repeat his nonsense shows the extent to which Leftoids will overlook anything as long as you share the right enemies.

The government’s embrace of the bloke is even harder to understand given there’s no real question he damaged Australia’s national security. As Peter Jennings, who at the time was a senior bureaucrat in Defence, wrote this week, Assange’s 2010 publication “of uncensored battlefield reports put our forces, indeed the whole of the international coalition in Afghanistan, and the many brave Afghans fighting with us, under serious risk”.

Bizarrely, however, there are still people who claim there’s no evidence Assange’s actions caused danger to anyone. Tell that to the family of Majid Jamali Fashi, a kickboxer hanged by Iran in 2012 after “confessing” to killing an Iranian nuclear scientist on behalf of Mossad.

In 2010, Fashi was arrested within days of WikiLeaks publishing a US diplomatic cable which related material from an Iranian source who described how “private martial arts clubs and their managers are under intense pressure to co-operate with Iranian intelligence and Revolutionary Guard organisations, both in training members and in working as ‘enforcers’ in repression of protests and politically motivated killings”.

Assange’s publication of this cable, written by a diplomat in Baku, Azerbaijan – who described the information as coming from “a licensed martial arts coach and trainer from Tabriz currently visiting Baku” – allegedly enabled Iranian authorities to identify Fashi as the source. If that was so, then Assange deserved everything he had coming to him from the US justice system, and it’s a damn shame our Prime Minister shielded him from it.

According to The Guardian’s Karen Middleton, “the deliberate and determined effort to secure Assange’s release involved many people – but prime ministerial advocacy was central to achieving it”.

Bizarrely, despite the fact he released a photo of himself on the phone with Assange, Middleton was in awe at Albanese’s restraint: “With all the accolades flowing, he must have been tempted to meet him off the plane and receive them in person. But he chose to stay away from the media circus surrounding his return.”

Fear not, though. Albo intends they will catch up “but he’ll gauge the response first”, Middleton reassured Guardian readers, who may have felt the nation’s leader wasn’t doing enough for their hero, adding: “That will determine how soon and whether he does it in public or in private.”

Lefties, they’re different I tell you, different.

Rather different tune from all the flogs clamouring over who saved the bloke.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 30, 2024 9:10 am

Under-pressure WA senator Fatima Payman vows to continue fighting for her beliefsJoe SpagnoloThe West Australian
Sun, 30 June 2024 2:00AM

After a bruising week, WA senator Fatima Payman says she cannot promise Prime Minister Anthony Albanese or her Labor colleagues that she will not cross the floor again — even if it means jeopardising her political career.
Senator Payman admitted to The Sunday Times she had not had any contact with her WA and Federal colleagues since crossing the floor to support a motion recognising the State of Palestine, but said she was prepared to wear the repercussions of her actions in pursuit of what she believes to be right.
“It’s probably impacted our relationship,” she said.
“If the Caucus is upset with me, I don’t have control over their emotions and how they are letting this affect them.

“This is an important issue to me — fighting for justice, equality and freedom is something I hold very dearly.
“I can’t afford to be silent on this matter.”
The 29-year-old defied party ranks on Tuesday when she crossed the floor — the first time any Labor politician has done so since 1998, and sparking a political firestorm in the process.
In Federal Labor, no one ever goes against “The Family” — not publicly anyway, with an expectation all follow the “all for one, and one for all” mantra in the public domain.
Party rules for candidates state: “If elected to Parliamentary Office I will, on all questions before the Parliament, vote as a majority of the Parliamentary Labor Party may decide at a properly constituted caucus meeting.”
So Senator Payman’s move to cross the floor to vote with the Greens and crossbench senators Lidia Thorpe and David Pocock, left Prime Minister Anthony Albanese red-faced and left many of her colleagues seething.
Several Labor sources spoken to by The Sunday Times were scathing of Senator Payman’s actions, with calls for her to be expelled from the party.
“She should be expelled,” a source said.
“It is a long-held rule of the party and the foundation upon which it is built that the party acts collectively and that decisions are made at party level at the expense of individual views.
“If you do disagree with that view, you have two options — suck it up or resign.”
Another Labor source claimed the Senator’s preselection in four years’ time would now be in jeopardy because of her actions.
“There is a lot of anger towards her,” a Labor source said.
“Her colleagues are really angry at her.
“It might be tough for her to be preselected (again).
“If she continues to vote against the party, there is no way back for her.”
Mr Albanese hauled Senator Payman into his Parliament House office to tell her she could not attend any Labor Caucus meetings this week as punishment for her actions. Several Labor sources believed he should have been tougher.
Senator Payman said she respected Mr Albanese, but admitted their meeting was tough.
“It was very similar to being taken to the principal’s office for a telling-off,” she said of the experience.
“I told the Prime Minister I literally made my mind up (to vote with Greens and independents) on the floor (of the Senate).
“I had spent the whole day, thinking, reflecting, praying.
“I knew this (decision) was above me.
“It wasn’t a self-indulgent act.
“I understood that by me crossing (the floor) this could mean I’d be expelled from the party.
“So I was conscious of the fact that my membership could be terminated.”
Mr Albanese made clear this week he expected Senator Payman to toe the line.
“We expect that people will participate in our caucus process and comply,” he said.
Even so, Senator Payman remains unrepentant about her stance.

Indolent
Indolent
June 30, 2024 9:13 am

Some good news. NYT so paywalled, but this is an excerpt.
A String of Supreme Court Decisions Hits Hard at Environmental Rules

A spate of decisions over the past two years by the Supreme Court has significantly impaired the Environmental Protection Agency’s authority to limit pollution in the air and water, regulate the use of toxic chemicals and reduce the greenhouse gasses that are heating the planet.

This term, the court’s conservative supermajority handed down several rulings that chip away at the power of many federal agencies.

But the environmental agency has been under particular fire, the result of a series of cases brought since 2022 by conservative activists who say that E.P.A. regulations have driven up costs for industries ranging from electric utilities to home building. Those arguments have resonated among justices skeptical of government regulation.

On Friday, the court ended the use of what is known as the Chevron doctrine, a cornerstone of administrative law for 40 years that said that courts should defer to government agencies to interpret unclear laws. That decision threatens the authority of many federal agencies to regulate the environment and also health care, workplace safety, telecommunications, the financial sector and more.

But more remarkable have been several decisions by the court to intervene to stop environmental regulations before they were decided by lower courts or even before they were implemented by the executive branch.

On Thursday, the court said the E.P.A. could not limit smokestack pollution that blows across state borders under a measure known as the “good neighbor rule.” In that case, the court took the surprising step of weighing in while litigation was still pending at the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit.

Indolent
Indolent
June 30, 2024 9:16 am
Indolent
Indolent
June 30, 2024 9:19 am

This is something I don’t understand. Michelle Obama has a zero public service and/or business record. She is a lawyer who lost her licence under mysterious circumstances (similar to Hillary). How on earth can anyone think she is suitable to be president of the U.S.?
Michelle Obama Odds Surge to Replace Joe Biden After Debate

duncanm
duncanm
June 30, 2024 9:24 am

#believeallwomen #exceptassange

Roger
Roger
June 30, 2024 9:27 am

“It’s probably impacted our relationship,” [Senator Payman] said.

“If the Caucus is upset with me, I don’t have control over their emotions and how they are letting this affect them.

Commits political adultery, and then says,

“It’s not me, it’s you.”

I did predict this lady was going to be big trouble for the ALP.

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Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 30, 2024 9:31 am

In Flies on a Turd news:

Payman’s decision to cross the floor buoyed the Greens, who are now preparing to test government MPs’ loyalty to the Labor Party line with another motion supporting Palestine.

Greens party leader Adam Bandt said Payman had set a precedent and that other Labor MPs who supported Palestinian statehood, or had reservations about other government plans, should now be able to vote with their conscience without threat of expulsion.

Luckily, there’s not much else for Canbra to be concerned about at the moment.

mem
mem
June 30, 2024 9:37 am

So how is the left media spinning Joe’s debate performance and the way ahead for American voters. Watch this clip, “Why Americans must live the reality”. The art of double speak knows no bounds. https://www.msnbc.com/the-weekend/watch/why-americans-must-live-in-the-reality-about-their-choice-between-trump-and-biden-213948485603

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 30, 2024 9:43 am

Our defense is in the best hands…

Biden ‘has the capacity’ to stay on as US president: Marles (Grauniad, 20 min ago)

“I think he has the capacity,” Marles says when asked if Joe Biden has what it takes for the next four years. “I’ve got no doubt there will be no issues in relation to that.”

Biden can serve another four years: Marles (Paywallian)

shatterzzz
June 30, 2024 9:47 am

Woolworths, apparently, thinx lotza shoppers suffer from short term memory loss ..a month ago they raised the price of Home brand tinned cat food from $1.65 to $1.85 425g tin ..
This week they have reduced the same cat food via one of their “locked down saver price” specials from $1.85 to $1.65 …

Zippster
Zippster
June 30, 2024 9:49 am
Roger
Roger
June 30, 2024 9:52 am

“I think he has the capacity,” Marles says when asked if Joe Biden has what it takes for the next four years.

He is, of course, lying.

What’s interesting is he either doesn’t realise or doesn’t care that he looks like an idiot.

Mind you, he also things Senator Payman is true blue Labor.

Perhaps Marles is as dim-witted as he looks.

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Gabor
Gabor
June 30, 2024 9:58 am

Indolent
June 30, 2024 9:19 am

This is something I don’t understand. Michelle Obama has a zero public service and/or business record. She is a lawyer who lost her licence under mysterious circumstances (similar to Hillary). How on earth can anyone think she is suitable to be president of the U.S.?

Even if you were raised in a log cabin you can become president, why not her?

Gabor
Gabor
June 30, 2024 9:59 am

Oops forgot to include the pic.

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Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 30, 2024 10:04 am

“I think he has the capacity,” Marles says when asked if Joe Biden has what it takes for the next four years. “I’ve got no doubt there will be no issues in relation to that.”

In his defence, you have to remember who Marles is surrounded by when he makes that call. Dribbly Joe probably does seem adequate from the bottom of the well.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 30, 2024 10:06 am

This is something I don’t understand. Michelle Obama has a zero public service and/or business record. She is a lawyer who lost her licence under mysterious circumstances (similar to Hillary). How on earth can anyone think she is suitable to be president of the U.S.?

Shirley a redundant question.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 30, 2024 10:09 am

Watching a montage of Biden’s greatest public cockups, thoughtfully provided by Outsiders.

Quality viewing, and very clearly indicative of lengths the democrat machine has gone to in order to hide this senile puppet’s actual cognitive ability.

Oh come on
Oh come on
June 30, 2024 10:17 am

So I watched the CNN debate again. Despite all of CNN’s purported ‘strict rules’ of no notes, pen and paper only etc, it seems pretty clear to me that Biden had an earpiece and he was being told what to say.

Much of the time when Trump was speaking, Biden was not reacting at all to what Trump was saying, even when Trump was landing blows on him and, if he were listening, we should have seen head shakes or facial reactions. And it wasn’t that he was incapable of understanding Trump, as there were times when he was listening and following along and making the appropriate gesticulations, facial gestures and so forth.

Now I know people might say he was zoning out when he fairly obviously wasn’t listening to Trump’s responses, and that was no doubt true some of the time, but I watched him closely and there were several spells when he appeared to be listening to something else rather than staring vacantly into the void, his mouth agape. After these particular occasions, when it was his turn to speak next, he tended to jump straight out of the gate with relatively detailed information, as if he had literally just been told it. Which I suspect was the case. There was one time after one of these moments of paying no attention to Trump when he got the first question of a new topic; he started answering the question way too quickly relative to his previous responses. It seemed fairly clear to me that he’d just been told the question was coming up and to be ready with his answer.

At least twice he touched his right ear in an unnatural way. The first time could maybe be described as a one-off but the second was a fairly clear signal – he appeared to be staring at someone with a panicked look on his face when he did it, and it was much more of an indicative gesture rather than a tweak – it looked to me to be a ‘tell me wtf to say, man!’ kind of gesture.

When I first watched the debate, I noticed there were times when CNN unexpectedly cut away from the side-by-side headshots whilst Trump was speaking to show only Trump, and this looked suspicious. I reckon these were times when old Joe was too clearly taking instructions from his handlers and CNN didn’t want to show that. After all, it was clear they were making an effort to depict themselves as being super impartial, so they wouldn’t want to broadcast any evidence that they’d fed Biden’s team the questions in advance, the order in which they’d be asked, and the fact he was permitted to use an earpiece…and their ‘strict rules’ about what each candidate could bring to the podium were an illusion (for Biden, anyway).

To be fair to CNN – not that they deserve it – they kind of had to let him cheat. I mean, if they allowed him to go up there entirely unaided, he would have been unable to answer the questions beyond superficialities.

Actually, on second thoughts, CNN doesn’t deserve it. The American public should know exactly how incapable their CinC is. By permitting Biden to use an earpiece, CNN obscured this from them. Suspicions that otherwise might have arisen did not due to moderators’ appearance of being super duper fair and balanced in their questioning, the time given for each candidates to respond and the unusual lack of editorialising from Tapper and Bash, who are clearly in the tank for whomever isn’t Trump. CNN’s ostensible discovery of journalistic ethics during the debate was itself an unscrupulous pretense, erected to deceive viewers into thinking old Joe was on his own up there. No, he had someone in his ear the whole time, and CNN facilitated this.

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Makka
Makka
June 30, 2024 10:20 am

Perhaps Marles is as dim-witted as he looks.

He is but he may have insider knowledge of he coming election theft.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 30, 2024 10:28 am

In Hey Siri, define ‘first world problem’ news:

I like my toast really, really toasted – threshold setting off the fire alarm toasted.

We had a designer toaster that at full blast setting produced Assange-coloured toast requiring two+ sessions for adequate bronzing. I rejoiced (quietly) when it died.

The $20 K-Mart replacement that I bought didn’t do much better. I binned it.

Mrs F has now brought a digital toaster to the family home. This morning I discovered that even AI and the computing power of an Apollo spacecraft is unable to achieve proper darkness and crunch.

There must be some Australian design standard behind this mischief.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
June 30, 2024 10:30 am

Daily Telegraph has an article up about NSW Productivity Commission report into how flu jabs could save lives and $500m a year.
Naturally the answer is people take the flu jab. Because herd immunity and protecting your mates etc.
The answer is always more jabs.

Roger
Roger
June 30, 2024 10:36 am

The American public should know exactly how incapable their CinC is.

Which brings us to the question, do enough Americans fear/hate Trump so much that they’re prepared to come out en masse and vote for Biden?

Absent a substantial turnout, I don’t think any Democrat ballot shenanigans being planned would have plausibility.

Roger
Roger
June 30, 2024 10:41 am

There must be some Australian design standard behind this mischief.

We have a Sunbeam around 5 y.o. that can do dark and crunchy.

Mind you, it’s not the quickest toaster on the planet.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 30, 2024 10:46 am

Despite all of CNN’s purported ‘strict rules’ of no notes, pen and paper only etc, it seems pretty clear to me that Biden had an earpiece and he was being told what to say.

This was the genius strategy of Trump. He realised that all that would be necessary was to get Biden in front of a camera.

So what he did was agree to every term for the CNN debate, then kept to the rules meekly no matter what indignity and unfairness they meted out. For tactical effect Trump certainly would not mention Biden’s earpiece, since his whole aim was to make it about Joe and not let the MSM make it about him.

And it worked. In spades. Probably too well, since despite Obama and his team of puppetmeisters it looks pretty likely the panicking Democrats are going to dig up another candidate from somewhere.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
June 30, 2024 10:59 am

LOL the s$#@show called the Townsville City Council rolls on. The mayor has pulled the nutter card had a week off then tried to re-enter his office. Access was blocked by the CEO & security. He’s now screaming everything from its undemocratic to discrimination being the latest. He’s already got an open CCC investigation into him, apparently a local government body is waiting in the winds with another and Miles wants this off the news pages before the election. However that’s the least of it, well known the council finances are a shambles.

The Deputy Mayor a guy who’s been around the north for years and been a bit of a transparency crusader, Paul Jacob has dashed any hopes the councils opaque nature will change tack. The ALP leaning councillors closed ranks with him and are already doing business behind closed doors especially on the debt & Houghton Pipeline. Commercial in Confidence apparently… The budget came out this week and Mr Jacob called it a bold budget. All us ratepayers get slugged 10% and the all the fees/charges rise. Then there’s piece de la résistance, installing parking meters on “The Strand” which for those south is probably the only real tourist attraction round these parts apart from the WWII bunkers and buildings still about for military buffs.

One ray of light is that something Chrisifulli may actually do, set the dogs of the CCC on the council and appoint an administrator. Rumours around that us and Rockhampton are in the firing line and another council in SEQ. Our previous Mayor was quite chummy with Paul Pisale who got jailed for corruption at the Ipswich council.

FFS, the standard of person standing for public offices all around this country is abysmal.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 30, 2024 11:01 am

Payman ‘won’t quit caucus’Anne Barrowclough

Fatima Payman has said she has no intention of leaving the Labor caucus despite crossing the floor over a vote on Palestinian statehood.

However she suggested that Labor didn’t entirely embrace diversity when it came to votes such as the Palestinian issue.

Senator Payman broke with 130 years of Labor tradition on Tuesday night in voting against her party while refusing to tender her resignation, prompting calls for her immediate expulsion or a long-term suspension from the party.

But the Prime Minister instead barred her from attending just one scheduled caucus meeting next week, a decision she told ABC’s Insiders was “stern but fair”.

Asked if she had any intention of quitting caucus, she replied: “No, I don’t have any intention.”

However, she continued: “We know that the 47th parliament has been the most diverse parliament ever. You can’t have that diversity in personalities and the representation but not have the diversity in views and opinions.

“We’ve had diverse views in the caucus from various people, various perspectives on the table. But I think we need to embrace that diversity of views.”

Senator Payman said she believed in a two-state solution and accepted Israel’s right to exist. But she said she would cross the floor again if she felt it was necessary.

“We’re talking about 40,000 Palestinians being massacred here,” she said. “And so that’s why I will use what is within my power as a backbench senator to continue advocating for a just and lasting solution. And I think that’s what Australians want.

The Palis have rejected five offers of a Two State solution since the late 1930’s. What makes anyone think they will accept such a solution now?

Makka
Makka
June 30, 2024 11:06 am

The deviants are abandoning the Kiddy Sniffer in Chief;

NY Times Editorial Board Urges Biden To Quit Race 

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/ny-times-editorial-board-urges-biden-quit-race-did-trump-administer-premature-kill-shot

Makka
Makka
June 30, 2024 11:11 am

Fatima Payman has said she has no intention of leaving the Labor caucus despite crossing the floor over a vote on Palestinian statehood.

Awesome! She’ll do it again too. Brandt will see to that. This is just what normies want- to see the Govt and the PM pandering to the moslems.

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bons
bons
June 30, 2024 11:11 am

I was just reading a paper that suggested a direct correlation between Karening and fewer women getting married.

It postulated that in the absence of men being readily available in the home to fulfill their primary role as targets for bitter and resentful mid-thirties women, Karens are forced to take their psychopathy out into the community.

Bulltish? Possibly, but a great dinner party destroyer.

Roger
Roger
June 30, 2024 11:11 am

“We’ve had diverse views in the caucus from various people, various perspectives on the table. But I think we need to embrace that diversity of views.”

Putting my Nietzschean hat on for a moment…

The call for diversity is but a masked will to power.

Once power is achieved, diversity is out the window (sometimes literally).

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 30, 2024 11:20 am

The astonishment with which the world beheld the frail and decrepit state of Joe in the debate will be a gift for Trump no matter what the Dims do.

All the talking heads who vouched for Biden’s mental health, even marvelling at his mastery of facts and subtlety of his thinking, have now been revealed as mere shills. The evidence is plain to see – they sang Biden’s praises and scornfully denounced anyone suggesting he was in any way impaired (‘cheap fakes’ anyone?) right up to Thursday night. Trump need only remind voters of the dishonesty of the MSM and Democrat politicians. They lie without the least compunction when their agenda is at stake.

He will also be able to point out that it is not possible that Biden was making the decisions. There were others behind the scenes who were responsible for the disastrous policies that have so damaged America. If they swap Biden out and bring in a new figurehead it won’t make a difference because those people in the shadows will still be there. No matter who they put up they will be offering a Biden Presidency.

It all unravelled because they thought they thought it a good idea to have a debate rather than weasel out with a BS excuse.

shatterzzz
June 30, 2024 11:24 am

$40 billion a year ain'[t “meagre” .. FFS!

With Australia increasingly recognising Indigenous land claims, now the climate battle often involves First Nations people.
Armed with relatively meagre resources, they’re usually represented by legal charities and supported by philanthropists — and facing off with multi-billion-dollar fossil fuel companies or governments.

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Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 30, 2024 11:25 am

Oh, and the thing Biden said about his golf handicap having lowered from 8 to 6?

Just look at his stiff shuffling walk. Trump put it perfectly, “I’ve seen your swing.”

It was just such a ridiculous and obvious lie from Biden. Not even necessary. It was an instinct to talk himself up with fibs. What a small man.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 30, 2024 11:28 am

NY Times:

  • “Voters cannot be expected to ignore what was instead plain to see: Mr. Biden is not the man he was four years ago.”

Actually Biden is pretty much the man he was four years ago. I’m old enough to remember how he was hidden away to avoid his then obvious infirmity being ‘plain to see’.

Anyone who has, or had, someone with dementia in their lives would have recognised the dreadful lost look in his eyes.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 30, 2024 11:33 am

Oh noes.

Fast fashion is harming our planet—these four tips can help you build a more sustainable wardrobe (Phys.org, 29 Jun)

In the face of such serious concerns, how can anyone hope to shop sustainably? …

Recycling and clothing rental are valid options, however, it is worth noting that textile recycling can be expensive and not without environmental impact in terms of both materials and carbon footprint. …

The French government recently introduced a country-wide program to subsidize clothes and shoe repairs with the aim to reduce the amount of clothing thrown away. Check to see if your area has similar programs and petition for their creation if not. …

Clothing, such as jeans, should be worn for as long as possible and be made from safe, recycled or renewable materials. The design of the garment should also be minimal. For instance, distressed jeans require the use of several toxic chemicals to give them their worn-out appearance. …

In time, you may even come to appreciate a smaller well-curated wardrobe of timeless pieces that you can wear for years, and not just a few weeks.

Those poor distressed jeans! Who will save them? I’m not entirely sure I’d want to rent a pair of jeans, distressed or otherwise. At least now I know if I want to get a hole in my jeans repaired I can go to France and the government will subsidize the needlework.

I think it’s ironic that this green lady is advocating for women to dress pretty much how men have done since, like, forever.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 30, 2024 11:38 am

Dr F at 10:28.

We had a designer toaster that at full blast setting produced Assange-coloured toast requiring two+ sessions for adequate bronzing. 

Ah, yes, you may say it is not fit for purpose, but it does have a five star energy rating, only using 2.56 Ratowatt hours per annum.

shatterzzz
June 30, 2024 11:39 am

Alwayz amazed at how folk who remember past lives are never, run-of-the-mill, peasants .. LOL!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13503507/ayahuasca-retreat-experience-past-lives.html

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Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 30, 2024 11:44 am

Clothing, such as jeans, should be worn for as long as possible and be made from safe, recycled or renewable materials. The design of the garment should also be minimal. For instance, distressed jeans require the use of several toxic chemicals to give them their worn-out appearance.

The Cat is such a valuable resource.

I am now able to quote PhysOrg when challenged about my carefully curated, extended use, chemical-stained jeans.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 30, 2024 11:44 am

Roger at 10:36.

Absent a substantial turnout, I don’t think any Democrat ballot shenanigans being planned would have plausibility.

Now you’ve hit on why the Dimocrats are in panic.
This isn’t a forced binary choice.
Option 3 is to stay home.
I don’t see too many people pounding on the door of a polling station to vote for “Err What’s My Name Again” if Friday was any example of his best tub-thumping rev up.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 30, 2024 11:48 am

In the spirit of the original Diogenes I have been making toast under the griller for years. Use your nose for doneness and don’t get distracted.

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Oh come on
Oh come on
June 30, 2024 11:54 am

I don’t think the CNN people thought he would do as badly as he did. They were probably told by Joe’s minders that he’d be all right on the night, they’d juice him up appropriately, he’d have his earpiece and he’ll turn in a performance similar to that at the last SOTU. CNN might well be furious after Joe’s performance. They have questions to answer about what took place. If it emerged that CNN permitted Joe to wear an earpiece and provided his team with the questions in advance, that would be a scandal that I don’t think it could survive. And it may well emerge – if there is a concerted campaign by the Dems to pressure Biden to step aside, it is exactly the kind of information they would leak. People already think he’s bad. It wouldn’t be hard to join the dots and calculate how much worse he’d be with no voice in his ear telling him what to say just before he needs to say it.

Even if this doesn’t happen, seems to me that CNN still has serious questions to answer that arise through simple deduction. The issue is whether it is medically possible for a person at the stage of dementia Biden appears to be in to turn in the performance he did without aid. I think it might not be. After all, Biden did cover a lot of ground, much of the time incoherently, but still. How could someone with his condition do that without aid? I don’t see how they could. The breadth of information and the level of detail he was ostensibly recalling and stating when questioned was incongruous with the manner in which he stated it, assuming he was up there unassisted.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 30, 2024 12:10 pm

No, he had someone in his ear the whole time, and CNN facilitated this.

Cmon man, have you ever tried to maintain concentration with a mindworm in your ear??

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 30, 2024 12:15 pm

dover0beach
 June 30, 2024 12:06 pm

As I said yesterday, if Biden is unfit to be a candidate for President he’s unfit to be President now.

I think that is true if looked at impartially.
However, if the Dimocrats want to replace him but keep him in the chair until January, they will spin it as “whilst he is currently capable of performing the role, there are concerns that his health may deteriorate towards the latter part of the next Presidential term”.
Bullshit, of course, but that hasn’t bothered them up until now.

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cohenite
June 30, 2024 12:30 pm

Monday a big day for SCOTUS when it hands down its judgment in Trump’s immunity claim against the Mara-Lago document prosecution. If the court agrees with absolute immunity ALL 4 cases against him including the slut stormy hush money case where the corrupt creep merchan is due to sentence on July 11 will be nullified. If Trump has absolute immunity merchan cannot sentence. Partial immunity will still make it problematic.

Oh come on
Oh come on
June 30, 2024 12:32 pm

I guess the other question is when (or should) Trump start to express pity for Biden, and expressly call out the people who continue to use him in the manner that is now clear. There have long been jokes about elder abuse and Biden, but even those with TDS who refused to see the reality until it smashed them about the head during the debate will not be able to escape the conclusion that what they’re doing to Biden is cruel to the point of sadistic.

I understand that Biden has gone after Trump and his family in a way that would be hard to overlook. However, can it be said that Biden is truly responsible for this? He’s evidently a meat puppet at this stage, and has likely been for a good long while. Trump would have long had detailed intel on this.

I can’t stand Biden – he’s a truly loathsome individual and he always has been. You still see glimpses of that awful person in his current decrepitude. However, he really is no longer that person anymore and should not be held responsible for what is being done in his name.

Once someone has lost their marbles, it is at that point a civilised society no longer seeks punitive justice against the body of that person, even if it was inhabited by the most abhorrent of individuals you can think of – any of history’s monsters, I don’t care. The principle remains. A civilised society instead places that living body, as innocent as a newborn, in an environment where it is comfortable, safe and able to spend its last days in privacy and dignity – even if the person that body once was is not remotely deserving of such mercy.

If we haven’t quite yet approached this point with Biden, we certainly aren’t far off it. Perhaps Trump should acknowledge this.

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thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 30, 2024 12:37 pm

I feel a movement in the force, like a billion incels all Reeeeed at once and were suddenly silenced…

See this – this is why I should not pay tax anymore.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/article/2024/jun/29/this-is-how-we-do-it-in-australia-susan-and-samuel

Every month, I pay Samuel £840 to meet me for four hours in a Brisbane motel room. I always book the same motel, because it’s wheelchair-accessible: I’m paraplegic, so I have certain accessibility needs. I make sure to arrive early, so I can do my makeup. We’ve been meeting this way for a year, but I still feel a flutter of nerves as I’m waiting for his knock on the door. As soon as I set eyes on him, I feel calmer. He has a gentlemanly, soft way about him, which is what attracted me when I found his escort profile online. He always arrives in a button-down shirt and jacket, and he is never quite clean-shaven. We start with a chat and he mixes me a cocktail. Then he carries me into the bedroom.
I’m not sure if the motel staff know that Samuel is a sex worker, but I’m not bothered if they do. In most of Australia, sex work is decriminalised – and my time with Samuel is even subsidised by the government. At the end of each session, Samuel sends an invoice marked “support worker” to my plan manager at the national disability insurance scheme. In 2020, a woman with multiple sclerosis won the legal right to get the NDIS to pay for her sessions with a sex worker. Reading about that case gave me the idea of meeting an escort.
The term “support worker” is vague, but feels right to me. I do feel supported by Samuel. When I contacted him, I was recovering from a nasty separation. I’d been with my ex for a decade, and his approach to intimacy had been rough and unfeeling. Single again at 56, I didn’t feel hopeful about meeting another man. Trying to date as a wheelchair user makes you very vulnerable. If I go home with someone and he takes advantage of me, I can’t run away or fight back.
Being paraplegic, I feel exposed – but also invisible. I’m a sexual person, but a lot of men simply look through me. Samuel sees me as a sexual being. He works with a number of disabled clients, so isn’t afraid to put me on top or experiment with acrobatic positions. He’s got a beautiful, sturdy body, what he describes as a “dad bod”. I looked at other escorts online but they were all so buffed-up and young – the thought of being with a man like that made me feel insecure. Samuel is greying in a lovely way; he’s in his late 40s and has depth.
I never lose sight of the fact that there is a boundary between us. I am aware I pay to see a shiny, perfect version of Samuel and, in a way, I am relieved I’m not burdened with a full-time relationship. I’ve given too much of myself away to men in the past. I don’t think I would want to see Samuel more than once a month. Apart from anything else, I don’t have the stamina.

Leading to.
https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/ndis-cost-could-blow-out-to-125b-a-year-20240118-p5eye5

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
June 30, 2024 12:40 pm

Trump would do good to not comment on “immunity” – detractors would easily frame it as a technicality, a get out of jail card, a fringe privilege for the lawyered-up- but return to the riff of mucking out the three-letter agencies and shining a light on the ridiculuos convolutions f procedure and jurisdiction by which the marginal DA’s and state courts have tried to take him down.
“They’re coming after you- but I’m just standing in the way.”

cohenite
June 30, 2024 12:41 pm

As I said yesterday, if Biden is unfit to be a candidate for President he’s unfit to be President now. 

This has been proven. I am amazed that Trump never mentioned the Hur report into whether biden was fit to stand trial for offences which Trump has (erroneously) been charged with: taking and dealing with confidential documents. Biden did this while he was a senator and VP. The only person who has authority to deal with confidential documents is POTUS. Yet biden despite him doing this was not charged because he was unfit to stand trial. If he is unfit to stand trial he is unfit to be POTUS.

cohenite
June 30, 2024 12:44 pm

And before I forget, WIP featured a sensational cute owl:

file:///C:/Users/User/Documents/cuteowl%20in%20US%20bikini.webp

If the link doesn’t work it’s the last photo in the current WIP.

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Miltonf
Miltonf
June 30, 2024 12:46 pm

Yes tax time is coming up and I’m very mindful of how the Canbra filth demands my money with menaces and then squanders it The Mostyn pay rise probably the most grotesque example. Hard to think of a more ghastly wimmin. Only in Canbra.

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Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
June 30, 2024 12:50 pm

Dammit Cohen don’t ruin WIP for me

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 30, 2024 12:51 pm

It was not part of their blood, It came to them very late, With long arrears to make good, When the Incel began to hate.
They were not easily moved, They were icy — willing to wait Till every count should be proved, Ere the Incel began to hate.
Their Reeeees were even and low. Their websites were level and straight. There was neither sign nor show When the Incel began to hate.
It was not preached to the crowd. It was not taught by the state. No man spoke it aloud When the Incel began to hate.
It was not suddently bred. It will not swiftly abate. Through the chilled years ahead, When Time shall count from the date That the Incel began to hate.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 30, 2024 12:53 pm

It’s complicated, but Breaker Morant is still a war criminal | Peter GoersI’ll always believe that Morant was following orders and that he became a scapegoat of empire – but he was also a war criminal, writes Peter Goers

From the Hun.

Rorshach
Rorshach
June 30, 2024 12:57 pm

Greetings from Dubrovnik! Hot as Hades and full as a goog. 

We were ripped off for cool drinks and jostled and elbowed from one end of town to the other. Despairing of ever getting a seat on a shuttle, we were ripped of again for a taxi ride back to the wharf.

Calli – are you by any chance on one of the Split/Dubrovnik cruises? [We got on the MV Memories exactly one year ago with Antun as cruise director… 1 July D -> S cruise]

JC
JC
June 30, 2024 12:57 pm

dover0beach

June 30, 2024 12:37 pm

Hippokleides

@Hippokleides

It’s almost surreal that figures in the US increasingly talk earnestly about “confronting China” or preventing its rise. But China’s rise has already happened, it’s just that the diplomatic and military reality is lagging.

Indeed. BTW, amazing that global shipbuilding is essentially concentrated in the NW Pacific, between China, South Korea, and Japan. Good short thread too.

You wrote the last para and totally missed what you’re saying. South Korea and Japan are under the American nuclear umbrella and inside the American orbit, or as you’re constantly reminding us , the GOA. So what if commercial ship building is maintained off the continental US. It’s like ship building was concentrated in Hawaii for all intents as SK and Japan are essentially “GOA”: appendages.

Moreover, the production of commercial ships from those two countries equals China’s, so where’s the concern here?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 30, 2024 1:01 pm

The Trump camp needs to play this very carefully.
In no way can they be seen to be gloating or making fun of the Sniffer in Chief.
The narrative needs to go something like …
“Clearly Biden is cognitively impaired.
Which is personally sad for him and his family.
But it draws into question his ability to perform the duties of POTUS.
He is making momentous decisions every day which effect the safety and security of the nation …”
And the punchline …
“… or if he is not making those decisions, who is?”
Don’t name names.
Don’t speculate.
If asked who the puppet master is just say “I don’t know. That is the point. Either we have a severely impaired President making these decisions, or he is being guided by someone else, and the American people – including me – don’t know who that is”.
Let CNN say the word “Obama”.

JC
JC
June 30, 2024 1:11 pm

Instead of just looking at commercial shipping, let’s look at who is the biggest arms exporter in the world.

the United States

Arms exports by the United States, the world’s largest arms supplier, rose by 17 per cent between 2014–18 and 2019–23, while those by Russia fell by more than half (–53 per cent).

How about China?

Nestled in just above Germany at 5.8% of global arms exports. US is currently at 41.7%. This is where the rubber meets the road. This shows you that when countries have a choice they buy the better more reliable equipment and says a great deal where countries go.

Commercial shipping is no discernible importance in an ocean war, which is what a confrontation with China would entail.

More importantly, who exports the most fighter jets and war related aircraft?

Oh, it’s the US again.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_aircraft_and_spacecraft_exports

Next Twitter feed. US doesn’t manufacture Leggo, which has huge implications in a confrontation.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 30, 2024 1:14 pm

Is this circumstance unique to Biden or has this ‘delegation’ been a feature of the GAE for some time or since its inception?

Which Presidents are you referring to?
Reagan?
Bush I and/or II?
Clinton?
Obama?
Trump?
Sure, they all had a circle of advisors (which is wise), but I doubt any of them were taking verbatim direction from some shadowy cabal.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 30, 2024 1:16 pm

Marles warns Payman over crossing floor again
Anne Barrowclough
Richard Marles has signalled that Fatima Payman may receive a harsher punishment than suspension if she crosses the floor again as she did last week over a vote on Palestinian statehood.

Senator Payman told ABC’s Insiders on Sunday that she would not rule out crossing the floor again on a similar motion.

However, earlier on the same program, the Defence Minister suggested the Labor caucus would not take lightly another floor crossing.
“I can’t over emphasise enough how important all of us who are members of the team regard the obligations of being a member of the team in terms of the way in which we behave,” he said.

“Caucus solidarity is fundamentally important to everyone of us. It’s the heart of the obligations that we have in terms of being members of the Labor Party.
“And clearly that will be foremost in the minds of the caucus.”

Gilas
Gilas
June 30, 2024 1:17 pm

Oh come on
June 30, 2024 10:17 am

So I watched the CNN debate again. Despite all of CNN’s purported ‘strict rules’ of no notes, pen and paper only etc, it seems pretty clear to me that Biden had an earpiece and he was being told what to say.

I wasn’t aware that notes were verboten, so it didn’t register at the time I first saw it, (and now can’t be bothered to watch the debate again), but I could have sworn that the demented carcass was looking at notes on the lectern, while Trump was talking, on at least one occasion.
Have other observant Cats noticed this?

Also, can an earpiece be so small that it can be totally hidden from view? A modern, expensive (small), simple hearing aid ie. just a battery-powered amplifier with no RF receiver still sticks out of the ear like the proverbials.

Shenanigans from the CNN leftist sewer are a 100% certainty, however, the way the Machine works, we will probably read about it in an upcoming hard-cover reveal-all sometimes in the next 3 decades.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 30, 2024 1:17 pm

The CCP plays a fairly straight bat:

Face-off of US presidential candidates ‘fails to inject vitality’ into rigid politics

Associated Press said the debate was defined by personal attacks after US President Joe Biden delivered rambling answers and his Republican rival, Donald Trump, countered with falsehoods.

Lü Xiang, a research fellow of US studies at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, told the Global Times on Friday that the debate itself did not bring any fresh ideas as the two candidates are not new faces, and the public know their policy orientation and style quite well. 

Based on the two candidates’ governance in the past, analysts are worried over whether the incoming president can rally the government departments whose interests could contradict each other, and make them work together smoothly. 

“A US fighting with itself will bring about major uncertainties and risks to the world,” Lü said. 

Translation: Democracy with US characteristics has failed.

A message to the world that will bring comfort and great joy to the mandarins of the Chinese Empire and their satraps everywhere.

Makka
Makka
June 30, 2024 1:23 pm

NBC:

Despite delivering a rousing speech at a rally in North Carolina on Friday that calmed some of his allies, Biden was described by one person familiar with his mood as humiliated, devoid of confidence and painfully aware that the physical images of him at the debate — eyes staring into the distance, mouth agape — will live beyond his presidency, along with a performance that at times was meandering, incoherent and difficult to hear.

“It’s a mess,” this person said.

Another person familiar with the dynamics said Biden will ultimately listen to only one adviser.

“The only person who has ultimate influence with him is the first lady,” this person said. “If she decides there should be a change of course, there will be a change of course.”

JC
JC
June 30, 2024 1:24 pm

The Thursday debate merely followed election tradition and had barely any impact on Americans, who have to acknowledge the reality that neither candidate can bring vitality to a stagnant US political scene, Chinese observers said on Friday.

Hahahahaha, XI is up for reelection this year?

Eyrie
Eyrie
June 30, 2024 1:28 pm

Some are talking still about a second debate. lol.

What with? The baby seal is lying on the ice with its brains bashed out.

JC
JC
June 30, 2024 1:29 pm

Note: This isn’t the first time the Demons have hidden their candidates physical failings.

FDR.

He was diagnosed with poliomyelitis and underwent years of therapy, including hydrotherapy at Warm Springs, Georgia. Roosevelt remained paralyzed from the waist down and relied on a wheelchair and leg braces for mobility, which he took efforts to conceal in public.

It was never spoken about in the media at the time and when in front of the camera they hid his impairment with various tricks.

JC
JC
June 30, 2024 1:41 pm

I suspect it’s going to be next to impossible to get rid of the corpse.

From what I’ve read, the delegates are basically locked into the convention. One alternative is to 25th amendment him out of there. However, you have to expect the cabinet members who have been bullshitting about the corpse’s sharpness to do a 180 and pretend this was all new to them. Also, these people are lick-spittles, and they won’t throw him out.

Recent chatter coming from the administration, other then the fact the corpse had a cold , was that he’s very functional between 10.00 am to 4.00 pm. LOL

The last possibility is the wife talking him out of running. By the looks of things, it’s a it’s a fat chance.

Eyrie
Eyrie
June 30, 2024 1:44 pm

Also, can an earpiece be so small that it can be totally hidden from view?

The battery will be the largest piece but for a couple of hours there are expensive primary cells (non rechargeable). Zinc – air is pretty good.
Who knows what comes out of CIA black labs? Might be skin thin conformal.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 30, 2024 1:45 pm

Aspiring artist news (the Hun):

The homeless man accused of killing a fisherman at random at Frankston pier promotes himself as an amateur artist who even tattoos his own body.

Oh okay. So he’s one of those people.

Forrest Stevenson, 36, faced the Melbourne Magistrates’ Court on Sunday on a single charge of murder following the alleged stabbing death of fisherman Andres Malmis Pancha at Frankston pier shortly before dawn on Saturday.

I will speculate that this ‘homeless’ bloke had plenty of homes to go to, but has been kicked out of them all because of shit behaviour.

Homicide Squad detective senior constable Kate Lynch

What? Why, she’s a… woman. In a Homicide Squad. Surely that only happens in British pulp novels.

told the court police would need 12 weeks to compile a brief of evidence in the criminal case. The process ordinarily takes six weeks, but the court heard an extension was required to complete pathology and DNA testing reports.

Magistrate Marc Sargent remanded Mr Stevenson in custody until November 6, saying the accused murderer was to promptly be seen by a custody management nurse to make his “stay more comfortable”.

“The nurse will see you as soon as possible today,” Magistrate Sargent told the accused.

Ah. I am not at all confident that the now-privately-owned custody firms take direction for what happens in their own wheelhouse from jumped-up lawyers masquerading as magistrates.

The court did not hear why the accused murderer requires medical attention.

I bet they didn’t. Any mention of ‘iced-up nuffery’ may scandalise the court.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 30, 2024 1:47 pm

chatter coming from the administration, other then the fact the corpse had a cold

Ha.

Eyrie
Eyrie
June 30, 2024 1:49 pm

To get Joe out Dr Jill first needs to have an unfortunate accident.
Hello, Hillary?

Eyrie
Eyrie
June 30, 2024 1:51 pm

Serious question: In the event of a war of China vs USA in the Pacific, how do you get the losing side to stop fighting?

cohenite
June 30, 2024 1:55 pm

The Jan 6 protestors were charged under 18 U.S. Code § 1512 – Tampering with a witness, victim, or an informant
(c)Whoever corruptly—(1)alters, destroys, mutilates, or conceals a record, document, or other object, or attempts to do so, with the intent to impair the object’s integrity or availability for use in an official proceeding; or
(2)otherwise obstructs, influences, or impedes any official proceeding, or attempts to do so,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.

SCOTUS has over turned this. Federal prosecutors have threatened to introduce new charges and seek higher sentences if appeals based on the SCOTUS Judgment are made and upheld.

One remembers shrillary destroying her computer when it was under subpoena by Mueller.

JC
JC
June 30, 2024 1:55 pm

Yes, yes, JC, everything is fine.

Explain your reasoning then, because a quip isn’t an answer. It’s a cop out.

You couldn’t be more wrong. In an ocean war, commercial shipbuilding will have to take on the bulk of warship building, as was the case in WW2, the US is going to have to count on Japan and South Korea which are both far closer to China than the US.

Really. You understand that the US does build its own warships don’t you?

The ‘nuclear umbrella’ is not going to make a difference here. As for percentage of arms exports, that is simply a product of the alliance system.

Except the the “alliance”, as you call it has arms makers inside the “alliance” that isn’t just the US so there are choices.

Now, you’re sniffing off the fact the US is by and large 50% of global arms exports.

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Indolent
Indolent
June 30, 2024 2:00 pm

They’d have to be as demented as Joe to actually believe their own recommendation.

@catturd2

The evil demons just won’t stop.

JC
JC
June 30, 2024 2:01 pm

Moreover, if China attacked SK and Japanese shipbuilding yards it would mean it’s an all out war. which would then mean Chinese ship building would come under attack.

But of course, your answer is “everything is fine” ?

JC
JC
June 30, 2024 2:18 pm

Wow.

WASHINGTON — President Joe Biden is expected to discuss the future of his re-election campaign with family at Camp David on Sunday, following a nationally televised debate Thursday that left many fellow Democrats worried about his ability to beat former President Donald Trump in November, according to five people familiar with the matter.

Biden’s trip was planned before Thursday’s debate. He and first lady Jill Biden are scheduled to join their children and grandchildren there late Saturday.

Makka
Makka
June 30, 2024 2:24 pm

According to NBC, Biden is with his family at Camp David this weekend, where “informal” discussions are said to be held about the Old Sniffer’s future vv the race.

If Jill comes out next week strong and emphatic that Joe will continue then it’s likely that Biden’s stepping down is off the table, unless he has a serious episode that disables him before November. Then it’s POTUS Kamala. Recent tweets by Obama, Clinton et al all support the Old Sniffer.

Bottom line; no sign Biden is pulling out. Yet.

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Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 30, 2024 2:37 pm

SCOTUS has over turned this. Federal prosecutors have threatened to introduce new charges and seek higher sentences if appeals based on the SCOTUS Judgment are made and upheld.

I’m an NDIS sex worker, not a lawyer, so I have to reach down amongst the dead men for advice here.

Is the above not legally outrageous and contemptuous?

JC
JC
June 30, 2024 2:41 pm

“Really? I didn’t know that. You’re telling me for the first time.”

Could be that you simply forgot until you were reminded.

Australians are constantly being made aware of these choices in our procurement program.

Actually, we chose French subs first for some inexplicable reason and when it finally became obvious it wasn’t the best choice, we moved on. So, no it doesn’t show anything you’re trying to suggest. It actually shows the exact opposite.

It’s been the global hegemon for the last thirty years, of course its going to be far and away the largest arms exporter.

You don’t say.

NW Pacific presents no strategic problem to the US?

Nope, it doesn’t.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 30, 2024 2:53 pm

I would not be surprised to find Biden volunteering to stand aside as candidate for the next election. I would expect the FBI, CIA, et al to have loads of stuff on the rancid old perv. It might not worry aforementioned perv who won’t be able to make sense of what he is being told, but the elder abuser wife could be threatened. Even if not for her own misdeeds (she is a progressive PhD so she would be suffocatingly ignorant of the real world) then whatever prospects she might perceive would accrue to her as a former First Lady.

If the perv is disgraced then she will suffer the equivalent of the mathematical distributive law – a wife of a disgraced President is equal to a disgraced wife of a disgraced President.

Then there is Bunter. And I doubt all of the rest are squeaky clean. But if not, see above distributive law.

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Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
June 30, 2024 2:56 pm

With Australia increasingly recognising Indigenous land claims, now the climate battle often involves First Nations people.
Armed with relatively meagre resources, they’re usually represented by legal charities and supported by philanthropists — and facing off with multi-billion-dollar fossil fuel companies or governments.

Meagre my bum. Extorted money from private companies, tax payer largesse on racial grounds and donations from far left non for profit orgs often has them with better legal representations than us whiteys.

Lib’s need to go with a platform of ending race based centrelink payments, overhauling native title that they cannot arbitrarily close off public areas that have been used for over a century or two and a full forensic audit of the Aboriginal industry’s use of public funding.

?LOL post under things that will never happen,

JC
JC
June 30, 2024 2:58 pm

Could be that you simply forgot until you were reminded.

No.

Possibly one of the most important points. You just left it out then. No biggie.

They would have been better subs than the US ones which we are never going to get.

No they weren’t. You’re just making shit up now to argue your point. They were diesel based and totally inappropriate for our needs. The American subs are far better equipped and nuclear powered. And now you’re claiming we will never receive them. Are you hot-wired to the defense agencies too now?

Then stop bellyaching about the Chinese. Everything is fine.

You’re the one actually bellyaching and breathlessly posting silly twitter comments along with those from Russian trolls.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
June 30, 2024 3:00 pm

Frollicking that disabled bint spends more on fraudulent care aka sex services than my mates son gets in funding a year and he has to be on waiting lists of over 12months if they move somewhere.

I’ll say it again where is Sukkar? His the shadow minister and is barely bothering Billy Shorten!

John H.
John H.
June 30, 2024 3:08 pm

JC

 June 30, 2024 2:01 pm

Moreover, if China attacked SK and Japanese shipbuilding yards it would mean it’s an all out war. which would then mean Chinese ship building would come under attack.

But of course, your answer is “everything is fine” ?

This won’t be a liberty ships style build. Russia has barely managed to replace fighters lost in the Ukraine war, it will take several years to fill existing F-35 orders. In WW2 existing factories could be used but modern military hardware needs specific facilities and expertise. Ships take so long to build the addition will be of little effect. Modern missile technology will involve huge air and naval losses on both sides. The USA and China have thousands of missiles. 4th gen aircraft and ships are far too vulnerable.

A sustained war will turn the world upside down. To end it quickly take out the 3 Gorges Dam.

JC
JC
June 30, 2024 3:17 pm

Thanks JohnH

I know that. It’s not me suggesting a freighter ship-yard could be rejigged into a naval yard in 24 hours with a new naval ship coming out quickly like a GM vehicle line.

I’m just making the point that the US isn’t vulnerable because commercial shipping yards reside with its very close allies.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 30, 2024 3:20 pm

To retaliate to any chinese aggression the first two shots fired should be Beijing and the 3 gorges dam.

Eyrie
Eyrie
June 30, 2024 3:24 pm

To retaliate to any chinese aggression the first two shots fired should be Beijing and the 3 gorges dam.

Which American cities and how many do you want to sacrifice?

JC
JC
June 30, 2024 3:29 pm

How is it an important point?

Are you for real? We’re talking about strategic advantage in a US/China war. You focusing on the advantages of having commercial ship yards on your door step even though the US has its own naval yards.

Their peace time capacity, which isn’t that great, is always going to be dwarfed by what is required in war time. That was the experience in WW2 when they had to convert civilian industries into armaments foundries. BTW, it took them 12 years to build their latest carrier.

WW2 ships were rudimentary and the only thing that’s similar to present day is that they float.

No, I just read what is going on.

Obviously you misunderstood what you read if you still believe those French subs are superior to US nuclear subs. Not just inferior, but totally inappropriate.

I’m bellyaching? Sure. But returning to the twitter comment, you really didn’t address the principal point, namely, that China had already emerged and that diplomatic and military reality was simply lagging.

Well you do. Most of your comments relate to how inferior the West is to St. Vlad and how China is a misunderstood panda. That’s bellyaching on a St Ruth level.

shatterzzz
June 30, 2024 3:30 pm

Welcome to the real world ..! PVO exposed to the same sort of rules media “fact checkers” use on their commenters and isn’t happy .. LOL!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13578633/PVO-Albanese-media-office-emails.html

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 30, 2024 3:30 pm

Rockdoctor

Its pretty foul.
Yet Billy boy hasnt just said (&legislated) “Nope, not paying for you to have a NDIS assisted wank”.

National Dick Insertion Service, has a nice ring to it doesnt it?

And people signing up and charging extra to be NDIS prostitutes, what a rort.

Eyrie
Eyrie
June 30, 2024 3:35 pm

Last I heard the US can’t build Virginia Class subs quickly enough for their own navy. We ain’t ever getting any.

John H.
John H.
June 30, 2024 3:39 pm

JC

 June 30, 2024 3:17 pm

Thanks JohnH

I know that. It’s not me suggesting a freighter ship-yard could be rejigged into a naval yard in 24 hours with a new naval ship coming out quickly like a GM vehicle line.

I’m just making the point that the US isn’t vulnerable because commercial shipping yards reside with its very close allies.

Sorry, didn’t mean to suggest you were ignorant of the issues. The elephant in the room is will China use tactical nukes to take out US fleets, Kadena, and Philippines bases?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 30, 2024 3:43 pm

National Dick Insertion Service

Liberty quote.

JC
JC
June 30, 2024 3:45 pm

The elephant in the room is will China use tactical nukes to take out US fleets, Kadena, and Philippines bases?

I recently heard a pretty decent comment related to this. Can’t recall who it was. The chances of a nuclear exchange between the US and China would be pretty high because the battles would be fought on water and so would the exchange. Hate to be a fish in the China Sea if that happens. 🙂

But I tend to agree with you. If China used nukes to take out a US battle fleet, the US would think about taking out the dam.

JC
JC
June 30, 2024 4:03 pm

So why haven’t you mentioned China’s military shipbuilding capacity?

Here we go, the nonsensical games again. You presented that stupid twitter feed suggesting the US is vulnerable because it lacks commercial shipyards even though shipyards in its two closet allies are as big as China’s, and the US builds it’s own naval ships. Why would I even need to as it’s not directly relevant to the silly topic introduced by that feed.

No, because the relevant consideration was whether we would ever see them delivered.

But you stated earlier that the French sub were superior. A laughable comment on its own.

They would have been better subs than the US ones

You’re projecting, JC.

Naaa, just bellyaching.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
June 30, 2024 4:07 pm

“Which American cities and how many do you want to sacrifice?”

Can I nominate DC, Portland, Mineappolis, Seattle and Sanfrancisco as a good start ? Plus Canberra as a bonus.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
June 30, 2024 4:09 pm

Who really believes that Obama is some sort of svengaliesque puppetmaster? I am convinced that he is actually quite dumb, zero experience of, or interest in, the grassroots life and useless without a teleprompter.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 30, 2024 4:10 pm

PM suspends Payman from caucus indefinitelyGreg Brown

Anthony Albanese has indefinitely suspended Fatima Payman from caucus for threatening to again cross the floor and vote with the Greens on recognising Palestine as a state.
“By her own actions and statements, Senator Payman has placed herself outside the privilege that comes with participating in the federal parliamentary Labor Party caucus,” an Albanese government spokeswoman said.
“If Senator Payman decides she will respect the caucus and her Labor colleagues she can return, but until then Senator Payman is suspended from the right to participate in federal parliamentary Labor Party caucus meetings and processes.”

She won’t be allowed to play in the bouncy castle…

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 30, 2024 4:34 pm

A Sunday drive to Clunes.
Bloody frigid.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 30, 2024 4:36 pm

Every afternoon, the interwebs goes shonky and continues to cut out, restart, and cut out again. I thought it was just me and the local area, but my sister in Coffs Harbour says the same thing.
Anyone else having this problem?
I’m with Telstra.

cohenite
June 30, 2024 4:40 pm

The focus has been on Trump as the guardian of Western democracy but there are some other outstanding pro-democracy leaders and potential leaders coming through the ranks; for instance Poilievre, the Canadian opposition leader who regularly tears castro’s sprog a new arse every time he speaks:

What’s on the menu? Poilievre BLASTS Trudeau’s $220k food expenses on a 6-day trip (youtube.com)

Bespoke
Bespoke
June 30, 2024 4:45 pm

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Miltonf
Miltonf
June 30, 2024 4:45 pm

Turdo, the old Perv, Starmer, Sunak, Macaroon, Anal- talk about ancien regime and ‘let them eat cake’.

JC
JC
June 30, 2024 4:50 pm

You’re not fooling anyone, JC.

It’s not me trying to fool anyone. It’s you throwing the baby out with the bathwater and peddling anything you read that’s critical of the dreaded “GOA”, as well as showing the Russian Klepto in good light – a misunderstood genius. and saint walking among plebs.

It or I never said therein that this meant the US was vulnerable.

Really!

And now you’re arguing that China’s military ship building capacity is not relevant while at the same time accusing me of ignoring the US’s military shipbuilding capacity? I’m mean, really.


It’s a given, China’s shipbuilding capacity has increased. There was nothing to debate about this. The question was if US capacity is vulnerable because it doesn’t build commercial ships of any number. The stupid feed you linked even had a chart breakdown. I made the point that it’s not as relevant as you think it is for the reasons stated.
This no longer interesting.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 30, 2024 4:52 pm

Who really believes that Obama is some sort of svengaliesque puppetmaster?

There was a recent report:

Obama and Biden are holding secret strategy meetings ahead of election, report claims (27 Jun)

Presidents Joe Biden and Barack Obama met for private “secret” meals to discuss strategy as the highly contested 2024 election approaches.

The political pair have been having meetings, between just the two of them, as concerns over Donald Trump’s potential victory in November have creeped into reality, New York Magazine reported.

The former president’s “anxiety about the election is real,” a friend of Obama’s told the outlet. The source clarified his nerves are related to the general divisions of the country, not to his former vice president or Biden re-election campaign specifically.

I’d expect the “anxiety” may have gone up a few notches since the debate…

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 30, 2024 5:06 pm
Miltonf
Miltonf
June 30, 2024 5:11 pm

Today, ordinary working people no longer believe in religion. They no longer believe in ideology. They no longer believe in the left-right divide. That is over. They only believe in one thing: defending their way of life. These are people who recognise that they have been materially and culturally dispossessed by the upper echelons, by a new bourgeoisie that is totally egocentric.

This is about France but could equally apply to Oz.

‘The populist movement is irrepressible’ – spiked (spiked-online.com)

Black Ball
Black Ball
June 30, 2024 5:14 pm

I see Channel Stokes is having some sort of discussion on the Spotlight program focussing on the covid era. Palacechook being one of the panelists.
She sez she stands by those poxy decisions. Article in the Courier Mail if some fine person is willing to share it because I am on the piss after work and with great company.

JC
JC
June 30, 2024 5:16 pm
Miltonf
Miltonf
June 30, 2024 5:18 pm

From the same article and how very very true. Just think of that foul Allen wimmin.

There is a big debate in France, Britain and the US about why the West is collapsing. Is it because of China, because of India or because of Islam? No, the real reason we’re living in such difficult times is because we have such terrible, idiotic elites. Ordinary working people are the lifeblood of society, but they have been completely excluded from politics, culture and the economy. 

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 30, 2024 5:19 pm

A Sunday drive to Clunes.

Bloody frigid

Well, yes.

Because of the lesbians.

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 30, 2024 5:21 pm

Clunes and Creswick are amazing towns though- wonderful gold rush buildings.

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 30, 2024 5:22 pm

RACV resort is absolutely beaut too.

cohenite
June 30, 2024 5:27 pm

As I said earlier, Monday is crucial when SCOTUS hands down its immunity judgment. Merchan is going to jail Trump; no doubt; and the only thing which can mitigate that is SCOTUS delivering a total or large immunity Judgment.

John H.
John H.
June 30, 2024 5:33 pm

BobtheBoozer

 June 30, 2024 10:23 am

 Reply to  Miltonf

It’s about the quandary the citizens find themselves in – all of them are shit, making promises they’ll break as soon as their flabby arses hit the Big Chair

but there’s no one else to vote for.

Remember the marketing exercise about dog shit yoghurt? It’s the same offering to the British – just some have a little less dog shit than the rest.

For over 20 years I’ve been voting for independents, libertarians, and minor parties. I’ve done that because it has long been obvious that the two party system allows for corruption and the perpetuation of a system that favour elites. My vain hope was that if enough of the above won office it would force the two major parties to change. Over the last 20 years there has been very significant shift in voting parties that reflect my choice but it hasn’t helped.

My suspicion is that most people here will keep voting for the coalition. Asking for more of the same.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
June 30, 2024 5:34 pm

A link from Frollicking’s article:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-06-30/qld-fatal-bus-crash-bowen/104041032

I know this stretch well, straight, clear and north of the sh$#fight 80km of roadworks through to almost Proserpine. Inattention or fatigue? Maybe heart attack or unconsciousness.

Not many close detours unless you turn off or backtrack to Ayr up to Charters Towers down the Gregory Dev rd near Belyando Crossing then on to the Bowen Dev rd to Bowen, probably min 5 hours out of your way gibe Bowen Dev rd is mostly unsealed.

Closing the railway though is excessive IMO.

Arky
June 30, 2024 5:37 pm

Ships take so long to build the addition will be of little effect.

I’d say you have to distinguish the components.
There are hulls.
There is fit outs.
There is propulsion.
There are all the little components like numerous sea cocks, pumps and pipes that are likely currently supplied from the cheapest possible source (China).
There is the computer parts of control and weapons systems.
Mostly, there is the requirement for highly skilled trades.
What one hopes is that the required work has been done to ensure essential supplies given the change in requirements that moving from the previous wars on terror to a likely near- peer war. While security of sea lanes are challenged.

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Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 30, 2024 5:39 pm

Mentioned a couple of days ago by another poster, but this is every single thing wrong with both this stupid, stupid decision and the government behind it (the Hun):

The police union have called for “reckless” public drunkenness laws to be fixed after officers were unable to help an intoxicated man who was hit by a car and died.

This would be the decision that pisswrecks, so drunk that they are a danger to themselves and others that instead of being locked up for several hours until they got hold of themselves, would be handpatted and let roam.

About 3.20am on Friday, police responded to a report that a man was lying on a road in Melbourne’s west in Wyndham Vale.

Before – in the back of the van, taken to the watchhouse and sleep it off. Now:

Police Association of Victoria union secretary Wayne Gatt said two officers spent about an hour with the man before they left him at his home when they were called to another job.

An. Hour. In prime time Friday night shift for urgent jobs. This is why they’re not around to prevent home invasions or your car being pinched or smack down punters swinging knives at each other in the street.

“They tried to get that person to drink, they made that person a bowl of spaghetti and gave that person food,” he said.

They WHAT? Where is this in the job description?

“They rang a sobering-up centre that wouldn’t come and then they got called off to a ram raid

On a dodgy tobacconist or bottle shop, in all likelihood, and which they could have potentially prevented by, oh I don’t know, doing patrols around places susceptible to being ram-raided.

… but they did everything they could in the hour or so that they were there.”

Oh my God. If you’re ever in need of VicJack Inc services, please be mindful that they are now all terribly busy making mac and cheese for drunken dickheads without the sense to look after themselves.

132andBush
132andBush
June 30, 2024 5:40 pm

Dr Faustus

June 30, 2024 1:17 pm

The CCP plays a fairly straight bat:

Face-off of US presidential candidates ‘fails to inject vitality’ into rigid politics

A bit rich coming from that mob.

Show any vitality in China and you’re under a tank toot sweet.

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 30, 2024 5:43 pm

I voted UAP in the Senate last election and Babet got in which was good. Seems very hard to dislodge the established parties from the HoR though. Best alternative I can find is supporting Advance Australia in pushing the LNP in the right direction.

Roger
Roger
June 30, 2024 5:52 pm

PM suspends Payman from caucus indefinitely…

Given that she’s already said the problem lies with the caucus and the party and not her, I don’t think she’s going to be overly perturbed by that.

Now, do you suppose Labor will learn from this?

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Delta A
Delta A
June 30, 2024 5:59 pm

Bespoke! Good to see you.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
June 30, 2024 6:00 pm

On CL’s blog I spitballed the idea that the cleanest way for the Lizard People to get out of Biden and into a replacement DNC candidate was to actively assassinate him.
Just had the thought echoed by Louder With Crowder.
Which is a bit gratifying, but also disconcerting, like when Homer’s prediction of the Death Comet fizzing out to a chihuahua’s head-sized non-event comes true.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 30, 2024 6:00 pm

The former president’s “anxiety about the election is real,” a friend of Obama’s told the outlet. The source clarified his nerves are related to the general divisions of the country, not to his former vice president or Biden re-election campaign specifically.

“General division in the country” you say?
That’s pretty rich coming from someone who spent his whole career stoking division.
What he really means by “division” is, “Oh shit! We gonna lose!”
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Miltonf
Miltonf
June 30, 2024 6:00 pm

Notice the complete contempt Payman has for Australia and the state she is meant to represent but then rusted ons must have voted for her.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 30, 2024 6:06 pm

Interesting website..

https://themuslimvote.com.au/

Put together by pro-Muslim group, shows the % in each electorate with a certain % of the vote.

Just to see how subservient their dhimmis are Ill add the margin of the seat at the last election.

Tony Burke
(Tony Burke
(Watson)25.1%)25.1% muslim
15.1% margin


Jason Clare
(Blaxland) 31.7% muslim
14.7 margin.


Chris Bowen
(MacMahon)13.8% muslim
6.6% margin


Ed Husic
(Chifley)9.6% muslim
12.4% margin

Bunch of others being “reminded” of their status on that page, just the sort of thing for Friday at the mosque.

billie
billie
June 30, 2024 6:07 pm

Richard Marles has signalled that Fatima Payman may receive a harsher punishment than suspension if she crosses the floor again as she did last week over a vote on Palestinian statehood.

Oh boo hoo .. that’s probably seen as a reward by some, as if they have any bearing on caucus outcome anyway, the unions set the direction.

I’ll bet she crosses as much as she likes and then will demand “tolerence!”, if anyone says anything.

She’ll get it too .. the religion of peace demands it and gets it and Labor are too gutless to resist.

They only suspended her because Penny Wong is absolutely furious about this, she sucked it up about same sex marriage when required and now sees this silly person gets a free pass.

Not even the mean girls can get Payman kicked out.

mizaris
mizaris
June 30, 2024 6:08 pm

WTAF!!!

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mizaris
mizaris
June 30, 2024 6:12 pm

So…no b1den jokes allowed on fakebook.

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JC
JC
June 30, 2024 6:17 pm

It’s pretty incredible that Uncle Xi’s father was a victim of the Cultural Revolution and he’s turned out the way he has.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 30, 2024 6:20 pm

The next Federal election signals a shift. We will no longer accept being taken for granted. Australian Muslims are a powerful, united force of nearly 1 million acting in unison. The Muslim Vote alone is capable of forcing the current government into minority government. In 2024, we are focused on Federal seats where the Muslim vote can influence the outcome.

From the website.

Indolent
Indolent
June 30, 2024 6:33 pm

@robinmonotti

Climate change is very simple, if you look in the right places: the Solar cycles. CO2 change is the result of Solar cycles: it can’t cause the Solar System to change, this is obvious to all who are not getting rich from the climate crisis narrative. Unfortunately scientists love career, money & prestige much more than they love truth! And let’s say it: most who follow money do so because they are not even very bright so just go with consensus as could not do anything else!

Indolent
Indolent
June 30, 2024 6:35 pm

@goddeketal

HOW THE GLOBALISTS HIJACKED SCIENCE

In this post, as a canceled scientist, I’ll expose how the ruling elite hijacked science for their pseudotheories:

First, they ensured that scientists at universities are no longer permanently employed but are hired on a precarious project basis for 3-4 years.

Second, a scientist only gets a grant for a project if it fits within the rigid and ideological framework of the funding organization. These almost always mandate gender, equality, inclusion, and climate change.

Third, if you don’t comply and integrate these politically charged issues into your funding application, you will not get a job. This system ensures that only sycophantic, uncritical scientists receive funding grants.

Fourth, these woke scientists then teach—or should I say indoctrinate—our children, creating the illusion of a scientific consensus that men can become women, masks prevent the spread of a pathogen, and that CO2 is the main driver of climate change.

Fifth, those brave few scientists who still adhere to the principle of challenging hypotheses are ostracized, mobbed, and eventually fired for being “anti-science.” According to the self-appointed scientific elite, the science is settled and cannot be questioned.

That’s exactly how I lost my jobs as a scientist. Questioning the dogma of man-made climate change, the efficacy of masks, and my critical stance on the COVID vaccine were, according to my former employers, dangerous falsehoods that exceeded the bounds of free expression and got me fired.

Academia is dead, and so is common sense.

Rorschach
Rorschach
June 30, 2024 6:36 pm

calli

Greetings from Dubrovnik! Hot as Hades and full as a goog. 

We were ripped off for cool drinks and jostled and elbowed from one end of town to the other. Despairing of ever getting a seat on a shuttle, we were ripped of again for a taxi ride back to the wharf

You are not by any chance doing the Dubrovnik -> Split cruise? We did that exactly a year ago on the MV Memories. Wonder if it’s a small world…

Anders
Anders
June 30, 2024 6:44 pm

Hilarious line from one of the News Corp rags:

In an unexpected move, SA’s pro-Palestine protesters have linked with Extinction Rebellion to demand a ceasefire in Gaza.

That sounds like the exact opposite of unexpected. I’m sure Israel will call off its offensive any moment now it knows this powerful alliance has formed against it.

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