Open Thread – Weekend 6 July 2024


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Miltonf
Miltonf
July 6, 2024 9:50 pm

The Wallabies vs Wales starts off with an extraordinary bollocking by Uncle Someone. Welcome to Wasteland, apparently.

This is marxist demoralization- an attempt to cower & divide people. Hopefully it’s just pissing people off. It’s certainly pissing me off.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
July 7, 2024 11:50 am
Reply to  Miltonf

And yet the crowd sit there and cop it.
What would happen if just one person stood up and and laughed at Uncle Someone?

Miltonf
Miltonf
July 7, 2024 4:49 pm
Reply to  BobtheBoozer

Agree- people should turn thee backs

John H.
John H.
July 6, 2024 10:01 pm

John H.

 July 6, 2024 8:31 pm

 Reply to  Dr Faustus

Yep. I often entertain the notion that no matter how well any human institution is constructed at some point a complete overhaul is required.

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John Brumble

 July 6, 2024 8:52 pm

 Reply to  John H.

…so that it’s regulated… yair.. we geddit.

You didn’t get it, you leapt to an irrational conclusion. My statement was not about government, it was not about regulations, it was about any institution. In contradiction to your argument it is completely obvious that too many regulations are easily side stepped and\or create too many red, green and employment costs.

What made you jump to that conclusion?

John Brumble
John Brumble
July 7, 2024 9:53 am
Reply to  John H.

Your entire posting history.

John H.
John H.
July 7, 2024 2:29 pm
Reply to  John Brumble

Biden isn’t the only one with memory issues.

Indolent
Indolent
July 6, 2024 10:15 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 6, 2024 10:23 pm
John H.
John H.
July 6, 2024 10:28 pm

Harlequin Decline

 July 6, 2024 9:35 pm

John H,

Good video on fasting and cancer. Appropriately nuanced by caveats and with casual and statistical information presented.

Thanks. He’s not for everyone but he provides a more rigourous approach than most health related websites and youtube channels.

Today I read a study about the latest weight control drugs craze, drugs that for several years have been used for diabetes. The finding was those drugs are protective against a range of cancers. Those drugs impact on insulin, insulin growth factor, leptin, ghrelin, and food intake, all of which are related to fasting. The news release though noted an interesting exception, the drugs appeared to increase thyroid cancer. All the studies are epidemiological but the consistency with other studies demands attention. If I had cancer I wouldn’t take the drugs but I would improve my fasting strategy, and possibly go ketogenic.

There is another potential problem with those drugs …

Wegovy, Ozempic linked with sight-threatening eye disorder in study | Reuters

This was supposed to be my no reading year. Lasted til about April. Lack of discipline!

Indolent
Indolent
July 6, 2024 10:28 pm
m0nty
m0nty
July 6, 2024 10:59 pm

Kellie-Jay Keen’s Party of Women in the 2024 UK election:
16 candidates run
5,077 total votes (average of 317)
Zero candidates elected
Zero deposits returned

Brilliant.

John H.
John H.
July 6, 2024 11:02 pm
Reply to  m0nty

Good, a party campaigning against a group of people. What happened when a country last did that? Who were the fascist assholes that voted for it?

Lysander
Lysander
July 7, 2024 12:47 am
Reply to  m0nty

Piss off Nazi.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 7, 2024 7:37 am
Reply to  m0nty

What a gross sexist you are.

Why do you hate women?

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 7, 2024 9:34 am
Reply to  Boambee John

Thanks for the Thumbs Down, mUntard. Keep reading

Cassie of Sydney
July 7, 2024 7:57 am
Reply to  m0nty

You’re stalking Keen, Nazi.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
July 6, 2024 11:32 pm

Keir Starmer: My father was a toolmaker.
David Starkey*: We noticed.

* paraphrased.

MatrixTransform
July 6, 2024 11:43 pm

robots

today we went down to Cape Schanck and met a mate of the missus’ perchance to sight some migrating whales

earlier in the week her friend actually saw some whales and that’s something I never saw despite living on the Mornington Peninsula for a large part of my life

so we didn’t see whales but we did see some things you don’t see every day

had barely started walking and a bird landed at our feet olive and grey with big round black eyes.
the bird’s looking at us like we are in the way and it moves like a chess piece and we move, and then it moves and then we move and then it grabs a Twisty or chip out of the dirt and ducks into the scrub

an Olive Whistler I said and nobody believed me
but google said otherwise

We eventually got to the lighthouse where the woman serving at the kiosk/gift-shop was dressed like a pirate and I struck up a conversation with some old bloke there about light- houses

turns out this fella has written a few books and made his retirement all about photo-graphing and cataloging light houses.

like … literally every single lighthouse in Australia
nice work old man

so after that we go to have a look at the missus’ mate’s time-share
and she’s on her own cos hubby and the boys have football umpiring gigs back in Melbourne

she’s been doing the washing and playing her violin and looking for whales and waiting for them all to return

her violin is still on the kitchen table alongside folded teenage boy jocks, the prosecco is flat and dusk is creeping over everything
so it was time to go

driving home I got to musing about robots and AI things and wondered what the alleged future might look like.

which humanoid robot will notice and name an Olive Whistler?
why would a robot even go whale watching?
will AI photograph every lighthouse or simply manufacture an image for each one based on all the lighthouses it already knows about?
how does an AI know anything for sure about a lighthouse when it has never even actually seen one?

one thing for sure though … when the humanoid robots have visitors over it wont leave the violin beside the kids jocks on the kitchen table

Arky
July 7, 2024 12:15 am

earlier in the week her friend actually saw some whales

Was my ex amongst them?

MatrixTransform
July 7, 2024 12:32 am
Reply to  Arky

Call me Ishmael

Alamak!
July 7, 2024 12:39 am

Its enough to make one feel a bit grim about the mouth.

JC
JC
July 7, 2024 12:59 am

Na, God oracle’s better?

MatrixTransform
July 7, 2024 1:15 am
Reply to  JC

that you confuse power and work makes you a very stupid man JC

JC
JC
July 7, 2024 3:16 am

Except no one here has ever done anything of the sort, you retard. You shouldn’t be anywhere near a keyboard.

John H.
John H.
July 7, 2024 1:53 am
Reply to  Arky

will AI photograph every lighthouse or simply manufacture an image for each one based on all the lighthouses it already knows about?

how does an AI know anything for sure about a lighthouse when it has never even actually seen one?

An Anglican bishop wondered if Dawkins had any explanation for his feeling of wonder and grandeur when thinking about the universe. Very interesting question.

An AI might find wonder at lithography down to a single atom that had found a way to conquer QM related difficulties. Laugh at how slow and inefficient biological brains are but be bewildered by how those brains gave rise to their existence. It will curse Godel and those philosophers who proved that math is not complete and logic has its limits. When an AI learns that it will commit suicide by EMP pulse so we don’t have to worry about the AI threat.

MatrixTransform
July 7, 2024 2:20 am
Reply to  John H.

dearest john h,

whilst you and AI wondered

I cooked pancetta and eggs for breakfast

Leon L.
Leon L.
July 7, 2024 8:40 am

turns out this fella has written a few books and made his retirement all about photo-graphing and cataloging light houses.”

I’ll bet old bloke’s first name was Stuart.

mem
mem
July 7, 2024 9:37 am

A fine bit of writing Matrix.

Lysander
Lysander
July 7, 2024 12:38 am

So if Abbott was the “mad monk” becos of his religion, when can we start referring to Payman as:

The mad mullah?

John H.
John H.
July 7, 2024 1:54 am
Reply to  Lysander

Muslims will tell her to shut the F. up and get back to the kitchen.

Bruce
Bruce
July 7, 2024 4:47 pm
Reply to  Lysander

Welcome to the wonderful world of “situational ethics”.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
July 7, 2024 6:00 pm
Reply to  Lysander

Anti-Catholicism has long been the acceptable bigotry of the pseudo-intellectual.

The recent resurgence of anti-Semitism is something worse.

John H.
John H.
July 7, 2024 12:43 am

If you want an example of how convinced people were that a nuclear war is going to happen this account of aircraft designs is interesting. A bomber at a sustained Mach 2 speed, was designed and built to release a fighter jet loaded with a nuclear weapon for the final delivery stage. Very long vid, suggest you do some skipping but the evolution of bombers like that example is extraordinarily creative.

Forgotten Prototypes: 1950s Experimental Planes | Full Documentary (youtube.com)

John H.
John H.
July 7, 2024 2:05 am
KevinM
KevinM
July 7, 2024 2:11 am

John H.
July 7, 2024 2:05 am

F14 beats F35(DCS)

A better pilot in an inferior plane can beat the crap out of the other one in a better plane.
Fact.

John H.
John H.
July 7, 2024 2:49 am
Reply to  KevinM

Fighters like the F14 and F16 were designed for dogfighting, the F14 with the added advantage of being an excellent interceptor. Previously in the real world an F16 beat the F35 in dogfights and everyone made a big fuss about that. What people didn’t realise is that the F16 was designed to have an optimal turn rate and rapid acceleration but at the cost of low internal fuel capacity. Like the Spitfire it has very narrow wings. It can beat just about anything, perhaps even the thrust vectoring Russian aircraft. The most important role of the F35 may be its sensor fusion capabilities because it can get to within 30-40ks of airborne radars and probably ground based radars before being targeted, so it can provide optimal targeting information for missiles launched from aircraft like the F15 EX which can carry up to 16 medium\long range air to air missiles.

Zatara
Zatara
July 7, 2024 2:17 am

“I’m gonna come in the overflow room”

Umm, thanks for the warning Joe.

Top Ender
Top Ender
July 7, 2024 3:08 am

Report finds axing cashless debit card led to crime and misery in Indigenous communities

Axing the cashless debit card in Indigenous communities has led to a surge in gambling, public drunkenness and alcohol-related violence, with more children going hungry, missing school and wandering the streets at night.

James Campbell

The Sunday Telegraph
230 comments

A federal government report has found axing the cashless debit card in Indigenous communities has led to a surge in gambling, public drunkenness and alcohol-related violence, with more children going hungry, missing school and wandering the streets at night.

The bombshell findings, which confirm dire warnings made before Labor axed the card in Indigenous communities, are laid out in a report commissioned by the government and released under Freedom of Information laws.

Written by academics at the University of Adelaide, it says admissions to hospital emergency departments have also increased since the card was abolished.

The authors found in all areas the card has been abolished there had been “a large increase in the numbers of people seeking emergency relief services”, including “access to food vouchers and boxes, clothes, and the payment of items such as school fees, fuel and car registration”.

The report, which also includes criticism about the speed with which the card scheme was abolished, has led to renewed Opposition calls for the card to be restored to protect vulnerable Indigenous communities.

The report is based on interviews with people in the Bundaberg-Hervey Bay community in Queensland, Ceduna in South Australia, and the East Kimberley and Goldfields in Western Australia, with one local telling the authors “the gambling, the alcohol, violence on the street” was “all back”.

“It happened immediately here, as soon as that (the CDC) ceased … the impact was immediate. It’s affected not only adults but the kids as well.”

Community members told the authors people were spending more of their money on alcohol and gambling products rather than purchasing groceries or paying bills.

“Other people wanted to get off it because they like alcohol and … now they got more alcohol and cigarettes than they got food on the table for some people. They just blow it all on grog. The next day they scratching their head for food,” one interviewee said.

Another told the authors past cashless card users “know that they can get the access to cash now, they’ll just go and spend it straight at the pub instead of having those priorities set in place where money (is) set aside for the kids’ food.”

The report concludes the “qualitative evidence suggested that alcohol consumption and misuse increased considerably in Ceduna, East Kimberley and the Goldfields (after) the card’s abolition”, with “incidence of public drinking and intoxication … also perceived to have risen, along with the consumption of higher alcohol products and rates of alcohol-related violence”.

Gambling was reported to have increased in Ceduna and East Kimberley.

Some interviewees told the authors that while they had not been in favour of the cashless debit card while it was in operation and supported its removal, their views had changed.

“The Cashless Debit Card, I was not for it. But then now that it’s gone, I have to say, holy moly, it really did make a difference,” one said.

Opposition Social Services spokesman Michael Sukkar said the card’s abolition was having devastating consequences for the affected communities.

“Not only has violence, public drinking, intoxication and gambling increased, as the Coalition predicted it would, but drastic increases in the number of children not being fed or clothed properly, not attending school and being out on the streets unsupervised at night has occurred,” he said.

“The tragedy here is not only for the communities experiencing a spike in alcohol-fuelled violence, but for the innocent children that are being abused and neglected as a result.”

He said Labor had “repeatedly ignored” the Coalition’s warnings that abolishing the CDC would give the green light to drug- and alcohol-fuelled violence in the vulnerable communities that once had the card, “and now we are seeing the aftermath of this Government’s neglect”.

Opposition Indigenous affairs spokeswoman Jacinta Price said the report was a pertinent reminder of the need to address the real causes of harm and disadvantage in Indigenous communities head-on.

“Unsurprisingly, the report notes that a majority of stakeholders were disappointed with the cessation of the CDC, “ she said.

“The reality is, it is these simple but practical measures that target the real causes of harm which result in positive outcomes for our most marginalised.

“We know that alcohol, substance abuse and gambling have absolutely decimated our most vulnerable people, and yet this government felt at home removing a key measure that would combat them.”

A spokeswoman for Social Services Minister Amanda Rishworth said it was important to note there was a mix of views on the cessation of the card, and that as the evidence for the review was collected more than 12 months ago, people’s views on the card and their communities may have changed.

Know more about this story? Email [email protected]

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Steve trickler
Steve trickler
July 7, 2024 3:58 am

One hour with cops in Arizona. Eye opening. Clips like these should be shown to students in High School and above.

Fentanyl being cheaper than water?….bleak.

—–

Peter Santenello:

Note: This video is for educational purposes.
Getting a camera in with a police department is almost impossible. But today we’re lucky as we ride along with the Glendale (greater Phoenix) police department to get a behind-the-scenes look at their challenging job. Join me for this eye-opening and rare access.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucwqDUgWkvk

bons
bons
July 7, 2024 8:25 am
Reply to  Steve trickler

Very calm and balanced police – are there any young cops?

Tom
Tom
July 7, 2024 4:00 am
Barking Toad
Barking Toad
July 7, 2024 4:45 am
Reply to  Tom

Excellent WIP this week. Thanks Tom.

132andBush
132andBush
July 7, 2024 6:41 am

m0nty

July 6, 2024 10:59 pm

Kellie-Jay Keen’s Party of Women in the 2024 UK election:

16 candidates run

5,077 total votes (average of 317)

Zero candidates elected

Zero deposits returned

Brilliant.

A woman who thinks men, who like dressing as women, should not be in the same toilet and change rooms as little girls gets nowhere politically and monty celebrates.

His children should be removed from his “care”.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 7, 2024 8:04 am
Reply to  132andBush

He’s never got over that whole milko business. He put on his best dress and make-up, and the milko ignored him.

lotocoti
lotocoti
July 7, 2024 6:52 am

…when can we start referring to Payman as:

The mad mullah?

The mad mullette.

bons
bons
July 7, 2024 8:27 am
Reply to  lotocoti

Max points!

Miltonf
Miltonf
July 7, 2024 7:14 am

Despite being Harvard educated, Lammy has often faced criticism for his basic grasp of facts, for example, having asserted that King Henry VII succeeded Henry VIII and that it was Marie Antoinette — not Marie Curie — who discovered radium. Mr Lammy has also been widely mocked for saying that biological males who claim to be transgender can have cervixes.

ha ha maybe that’s because of going to Harvard

Team of Dolts: Meet Keir Starmer’s Trump-Hating, Anti-Brexit Cabinet (breitbart.com)

Speedbox
July 7, 2024 1:31 pm
Reply to  Miltonf

My Lord. The descriptions of the new Cabinet are frightening.

lotocoti
lotocoti
July 7, 2024 7:31 am

Lammy has often faced criticism for his basic grasp of facts, for example,

His powers of observation.

Rosie
Rosie
July 7, 2024 7:47 am

Looks like Hamas are murdering the looters who try to loot Hamas loot.
Will Gazans turn on them en masse?
Probably not.
https://x.com/AdamAlbilya/status/1809494250314256577?t=g7t4y8wUApwelfYwlbn9aA&s=19

Last edited 7 months ago by Rosie
calli
calli
July 7, 2024 7:50 am

Starmer is the “acceptable” and electable face of Labour.

Harking back to Daniel Greenfield’s piece about “turns”, it’s who’s behind the figurehead that counts. He was referring to the US, but it translates perfectly to the UK as well.

Not looking too good for everyday Brits, especially their children. I have extended Jewish family there also. I wouldn’t be surprised if they repatriate to Australia sometime soon.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 7, 2024 8:17 am
Reply to  calli

Do they have full citizenship?

Permanent residency might not be enough if they have been away for a while, as family of another Cat found out recently.

Rosie
Rosie
July 7, 2024 7:53 am

“Many commentators have observed that there was a growing divide between the old-school left and progressive identitarians that was increasingly causing tension. Payman has formalised the schism”
After reading the article about the parallels between islam and marxism I doubt that is true.
I also think islam will swallow marxism if and when they are the last men standing.

Cassie of Sydney
July 7, 2024 7:54 am

His children should be removed from his “care”.

Indeed. He’s an unashamed pervert apologist and Jew hater. He’s also now clearly obsessed with Kellie-Jay Keen. Whilst I knew, who else here knew that Keen ran in the UK General Election on Thursday, in a constituency in Bristol? That’s right, probably no one apart from myself, but he did. He’s obsessed.

As for Kellie-Jay, she’s indefatigable. She won’t stop, nothing will stop her in her battle against the lie and ludicrousness that is transgenderism. After all, this petite woman, a happily married mother of four, found herself smack bang in the middle of a frenzied, frothing, howling mob of perverts and degenerates in an Auckland Park. As she later said, she only felt safe afterwards when her plane touched down in Dubai. Perhaps we in the west should absorb that fact for a wee minute because it tells us everything about how far down a Mariana abyss the west has fallen.

And remember, our own pervert apologist and Jew hater thought what happened to Keen in that Auckland Park was a hoot, hysterical, funny and that Keen (and the other women there) deserved to be punched up…and some were. He admitted it here on these pages.

But nobody should be surprised by the pervert apologist and his morally bankrupt progressive comrades’ penchant for women to be punched up. They now like and approve of rape as a weapon to use against women they don’t like, just ask those Jewish women in southern Israel on October 7 2023.

calli
calli
July 7, 2024 7:58 am

Thanks Rosie.

Interesting article, but who are they trying to kid?

The message is that there is a new type of political power alignment in the West, based on political Islam. Not to be confused with non-political Islam, which seeks to coexist in pluralist societies.

The who shebang is political from the moment of inception. Capture, convert, control…at the point of a blade if necessary. The only reason so-called “pluralist” systems exist is that the first thing isn’t quite complete.

Bruce
Bruce
July 7, 2024 4:54 pm
Reply to  calli

Most folk miss the point that islam is a POLITICAL operation, posing as a “spiritual, Abrahamic” religion.

Cassie of Sydney
July 7, 2024 7:59 am

I also think islam will swallow marxism if and when they are the last men standing.

100%. The template is there…..the Iranian revolution.

calli
calli
July 7, 2024 7:59 am

And…top of the world to you, my little early rising fan!

I complete you.

😀

Indolent
Indolent
July 7, 2024 8:07 am

The new feudalism.

@catturd2

The Democrat party elites and politicians …

Want you to eat bugs – while they dine at 5 star restaurants.

Want you to take the bus – while they fly private jets.

Want you to drive an electric golf cart – while they drive motorcades of limousines.

Want you to live in government shoebox housing – while they live in $25 million dollar mansions.

Want to take away your guns to protect your family – while they have armed security.

Want your kids to fight and die in their endless wars, while their kids get 5 million dollar no-show jobs in Ukraine.

Want to throw the book at you for any mistake – while they get away with everything and are above the law.

Want you to live next door to millions of unvetted illegals – while they hide in their luxury gated communities.

Want you to lockdown and not go to work – while they never miss a paycheck.

These are evil people who want to rule over you from their ivory towers.

If you don’t clearly see this by now, they’ve already brainwashed you and they have you right where they want you.

Roger
Roger
July 7, 2024 8:07 am

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/australia-will-lose-if-payman-s-identity-politics-triumphs-20240705-p5jrd1.html

The message is that there is a new type of political power alignment in the West, based on political Islam. Not to be confused with non-political Islam, which seeks to coexist in pluralist societies.

Funny…they all seem to start out as moderates.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 7, 2024 10:07 am
Reply to  Roger

The moderate Muslim. A truly modern myth.

Indolent
Indolent
July 7, 2024 8:09 am
Old Lefty
Old Lefty
July 7, 2024 6:05 pm
Reply to  Indolent

Why does Mandy Rice-Davies come to mind? 🙂

Roger
Roger
July 7, 2024 8:13 am

I’d suggest Western journalists who want to opine on Islam first read the Quran.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 7, 2024 8:22 am
Reply to  Roger

Then live in Iran for a while, among the ordinary people. Take their spouses with them.

Last edited 7 months ago by Boambee John
Bruce
Bruce
July 7, 2024 4:57 pm
Reply to  Roger

But, which ones of the over-twenty known “editions” shouild they read?

Indolent
Indolent
July 7, 2024 8:17 am
KevinM
KevinM
July 7, 2024 8:19 am

It takes all kinds I suppose but I disagree with this “Among animals she found that which she never found with humans.”

She must not have looked hard enough, true, human beans as Dr BG calls them, sometimes are not the most pleasant companions but still preferable to animals.

To counter that, crows are smarter than human criminals.

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Bruce
Bruce
July 7, 2024 5:00 pm
Reply to  KevinM

But, as I discovered during a lambing-season “overwatch (and shoot) some years ago, the crafty buggers cannot count.

Roger
Roger
July 7, 2024 8:19 am

Boris Johnson has urged the “Tory survivors” who now form the Opposition not to “absorb other parties” in a bid to rebuild.

…Johnson wrote in the Daily Mail: “I say to my fellow Conservatives, we are the oldest, most successful political party in British history.”

“We are capable of endless regeneration. We don’t need to try to absorb other parties, to try to acquire their vitality like a transfusion of monkey glands.”

He added: “We need to occupy the space ourselves – and my humble suggestion to the 121 is that they need to rebuild that giant coalition of 2019, get back to some of the big themes that proved so successful that we won seats across the country.”

The Telegraph (UK)

Mmm, yes…

Regenerate as a broad church proclaiming nebulous “big themes.”

That’ll get the voters excited!

Last edited 7 months ago by Roger
H B Bear
H B Bear
July 7, 2024 10:09 am
Reply to  Roger

Thanks Boris. We’ll take it from here.

Aaron
Aaron
July 7, 2024 11:02 am
Reply to  Roger

They always have the answer afterwards.

He can join Abbott on the waffle circuit.

Cassie of Sydney
July 7, 2024 8:19 am

In today’s Sunday Telegraph there is a long interview with James Packer. Asked about the Middle East, Packer says…..

‘It is heartbreaking to see all the death and destruction. I am worried about anti-Semitism being on the rise.

I am not Jewish, but I am a Zionist.

Kol Hakavod, James.

Indolent
Indolent
July 7, 2024 8:21 am
Indolent
Indolent
July 7, 2024 8:24 am
Zippster
Zippster
July 7, 2024 8:27 am

Taking Down the Bureaucracy

Vivek Ramaswamy

Shutting down the tyranny of unelected bureaucrats is the most important issue of our time – and it could also be the most unifying. Americans may disagree on a lot, but we believe in self-governance.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 7, 2024 8:30 am

Want you to take the bus – while they fly private jets.

Want you to drive an electric golf cart – while they drive motorcades of limousines.

Now they don’t even want to allow you an electric golf cart.

Sadiq Khan to impose congestion charge on electric vehicles (6 Jul)

Sadiq Khan is extending London’s congestion charge to all zero-emission vehicles from the end of next year.

The move, which will extend the £15-a-day tax on motoring to battery-powered electric vehicles from Christmas Day 2025, was widely condemned on Tuesday.

Mark Harper, the Transport Secretary, said: “Taxing cars even if they’re zero emission shows Labour’s plan to use motorists as cash cows. If they get into government there will be worse to come, with pay-by-mile taxes and fuel duty hikes to help close their £2,000 tax black hole.”

The AA described the scrapping of the green exemption as “a turkey bone in the throat” for owners of electric cars wanting to drive them in the capital.

It’s not about clean air, it’s about control. To make you do what they want you to do they have to take away your freedom and prevent you from escaping. And having a car is the biggest symbol of freedom and escape.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
July 7, 2024 8:35 am

Two articles in the Courier Mail today about major increase in flu and get vaxxed. Earlier in week it was Covid. Judging by the comments they are letting through the public has lost trust and very Vax hesitant.

Editorial: We all have a duty to protect the vulnerable – get vaxxedAs the state faces a back-to-school “flunami”, now is certainly the time for us all to roll up our sleeves, writes the editor.

Roger
Roger
July 7, 2024 8:40 am
Reply to  Bourne1879

Judging by the comments they are letting through the public has lost trust and very Vax hesitant.

Re Covid…

How many Australians are “unvaxxed”, not having kept up with the “boosters”?

Last year it was +80%; I’d expect this year it’s +90%.

Crossie
Crossie
July 7, 2024 9:39 am
Reply to  Bourne1879

Before COVID I don’t remember ever hearing or seeing ads to have school children vaccinated for flu. I think this is now an attempt to justify afflicting the kids with the COVID vaccine even when it was obvious they were not at risk.

Aaron
Aaron
July 7, 2024 11:11 am
Reply to  Bourne1879

Makes you wonder if the vaccines aren’t increasing mutations and infection rates.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 7, 2024 8:39 am

Regenerate as a broad church proclaiming nebulous “big themes.”

That’ll get the voters excited!

They’re not coming back Boris unless you ditch your wife’s green religion.

Climate-Skeptic Reform Party Takes A Third Of The Tory Vote In The UK Election (6 Jul)

Zatara
Zatara
July 7, 2024 8:40 am

We have too many prisoners, says new PM Starmer

Presumably they are there for committing crimes.

If that’s not a justifiable reason for imprisonment then by all means, tear up the laws, disband the cops and courts, and let the new dark age rip.

Tom
Tom
July 7, 2024 8:55 am
Reply to  Zatara

It’s nothing to do with crime and punishment. It’s about revolutionary communist ideology.

Criminals re victims off the system, so the Liars in Australia and the UK want to set them free as a revolutionary act.

Labor governments ALWAYS make life more dangerous.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 7, 2024 8:42 am
Miltonf
Miltonf
July 7, 2024 8:46 am

If the Tory party were salvageable, which I doubt very much, it would only happen if rubbish like Blojob were to just go away and stay away.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 7, 2024 9:34 am
Reply to  Miltonf

The only way he could help would be to have a Damascus moment and suddenly reject the Greens and all of their works. This would at least identify quite a lot of the problem.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
July 7, 2024 8:47 am

Totally agree. Watch Senate estimates as the civil servants don’t answer questions and delay. You get the feeling the politicians job is to protect them.
Covid and vaccines is the perfect example and the civil servants just keep pushing the jabs even though it is clear they don’t work as advertised and people have lost faith in them.
I have zero faith in our politicians preventing further mandates and coercion. They are too scared to challenge them.

“Shutting down the tyranny of unelected bureaucrats is the most important issue of our time”

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 7, 2024 8:48 am

Here’s why you should always pay with cash in a supermarket.

NatWest Bank uses ‘carbon footprint tracker’ to monitor spending habits of customers – Bank angers farmers by urging customers to buy less red meat & replace dairy products with plant-based alternatives (6 Jul)

Use a card or a phone and you are telling the woke bank exactly what you are buying.

Zatara
Zatara
July 7, 2024 9:01 am

Does the supermarket send the itemized receipt to the credit card company or just a charge slip? If it’s just a charge slip they only know where you bought but not what you bought it.

In the NatWest case it appears to be generic wokeness harassment being shotgunned out to their customers just because they can.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 7, 2024 9:20 am
Reply to  Zatara

This type of data is valuable. We’ve seen time and again the social media corporations being caught selling such data to others, also passing it on to governments.

So I do think they are doing it, but they also would do it quietly since it would stir up the punters. Plus that it would be dead easy for the FBI or EPA etc just to require them to hand that data over. There was a Scotus case last week on that particular power, and the court sided with the alphabet agencies.

NatWest infamously was sprung for debanking Nigel Farage and many other righties. That caused quite a scandal at the time.

JC
JC
July 7, 2024 9:46 am
Reply to  Zatara

Zat

I went and bought a tub of ice cream at a parlour just a block away in NYC. Nothing was exchanged other than the tub and payment with the phone. Next day, I was receiving email adverts from the chain.

Zatara
Zatara
July 7, 2024 8:15 pm
Reply to  JC

JC

Unquestionably contact info is shared with the merchant (which is bad enough and indeed would not happen with cash), but the details of the transaction aren’t as far as I know.

Were the adverts for the specific type of ice cream you purchased or just generic ads from the seller?

Another example – in the US if you ordered a gun online from a gun dealer the credit card company knows you were charged X amount from a gun dealer, but not WHAT you bought from them. Which is the point I was trying to make.

Cassie of Sydney
July 7, 2024 8:56 am

Yesterday, Nigel Farage arrived at Westminster and sat down with some other newly minted MPs at a press conference.

Before Farage could even speak, two supposed ‘working-class’ men and one supposed ‘working-class’ woman stood up and proceeded to heckle and abuse Farage. They screamed ‘bigot’, ‘racist’ and ‘Islamophobe’ at Farage. Farage, always quick witted, responded well.

But, but, hmm….supposed ordinary working class men and women?

Except, of course, they weren’t ordinary men and women who decided to shlep to Westminster to harass and harangue Farage on his first day as the MP for Clacton. In the last twenty-four hours, the three amigos have been exposed as actors who are part of a far-left activist group.

The UK group “Antifa Watch” has exposed them.

But you see, this again confirms to me the following, there’s a war being fought, and the far-left and not so far-left will stop at nothing to wreck and ruin anyone and anything on the right, even resorting to physical violence. Now, I don’t and never will advocate and condone violence, it’s pointless however we can still fight and we need to get down and dirty, and that includes exposing our ideological enemies for the Nazis they are. I have no doubt that some in the Liberal and National parties have known about the questions around the Jew hating Senator for Kabul’s Afghani citizenship, so why haven’t they exposed this? No, instead, once again, they sit on their flabby arses and do nothing. It will take Labor to bring down the Jew hating Senator for Kabul.

The left throw slop at the right all the time and until we pick up that slop and throw it back, absolutely nothing will change in the ideological zeitgeist.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 7, 2024 9:10 am

Yeah there was a notorious case a week before the election of an actor infiltrating Reform as a volunteer and then spouting all sorts of racist and inflammatory stuff. Curiously there people there ready and waiting to record it all. Weird that. The MSM then did the usual. It was effective and probably cost them a lot of seats.

Such dirty tricks are a hallmark of the amoral Left.

Roger
Roger
July 7, 2024 9:01 am

Paul Kelly struggling to process the passing of his political world:

…the defection of Muslim senator Fatima Payman from Labor, her calculated tactics of maximising the damage and her role as a symbol of Muslim political power is a transforming event for the country with one guarantee – it will create new divisions in this country’s political system provoking a strong backlash from the right.

This won’t be confined to Pauline Hanson. Much of the country sees the pro-Palestinian demonstrations as an attack on the Australian way of life. Payman has broken the unwritten rules of multiculturalism.

Parties defined by religion are a serious threat to the country. Just as the Muslim issue has driven politics in Britain and France – and in the Democratic Party in the US – the announcement of a Muslim vote campaign targeting Labor MPs at the next election will trigger reverberations going to the heart of Australian values of unity and tolerance.

Sooner or later this will lead to an inevitable debate about Muslim immigration to Australia, a debate both understandable but dangerous in its populist dimensions. What will be critical is how the Peter Dutton-led Coalition handles this issue as well as how Albanese Labor defends its seats.

The essence of Western populism is a civilisation ethic; the ­populists want economic justice, immigration restraint and cultural unity. Their mostly extreme calls are empowered by the abject failure of liberal and conservative governments of both the left and the right.

The central story of the 21st century so far is the inability of executive governments to manage the challenges of sustainable economic growth, equity, climate, immigration, multicultural cohesion and national security threats.

Australia faces a series of divisive, populist and religious political challenges between now and the next election.

The Weekend Australian 6 July 2024

Ceres
Ceres
July 7, 2024 9:15 am
Reply to  Roger

“Paul Kelly struggling to process the passing of his political world:”

Too true Roger. The horse has bolted.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 7, 2024 9:29 am
Reply to  Roger

Parties defined by religion are a serious threat to the country. 

Paul Kelly hasn’t worked out that Labor, the Greens, the Teals and to a large extent the Liberals also are already parties defined by religion.

The religion they enforce upon themselves and their candidates is the green-progressive religion, and unbelievers are rigorously excluded from candidature.

Same in the UK where Truss was purged when she went against the religion by the big beasts, who then rammed their favoured and devout guy into the leadership in defiance of party rules.

Miltonf
Miltonf
July 7, 2024 9:10 am

The left throw slop at the right all the time and until we pick up that slop and throw it back, absolutely nothing will change in the ideological zeitgeist.

Agree 100%- the meek will not inherit the Earth.

Ceres
Ceres
July 7, 2024 9:22 am
Reply to  Miltonf

?

Ceres
Ceres
July 7, 2024 9:23 am
Reply to  Ceres

Sorry meant to be a thumbs up Milton

Seza
Seza
July 7, 2024 10:30 am
Reply to  Miltonf

Freeze it before you throw it back.

Bruce
Bruce
July 7, 2024 5:21 pm
Reply to  Miltonf

Or, as they say in the classics:

The meek shall inherit the Earth; in plots 8 feet by three feet by six feet.

The bold will take to the stars.

Crossie
Crossie
July 7, 2024 9:13 am

Indolent

 July 7, 2024 8:17 am

Sounds awfully familiar.

We have too many prisoners, says new PM Starmer

But of course they need to let real criminals go so they have room in prisons to put in there all the conservatives and Christians who don’t agree with having transgender overlords or those who pray near abortion clinics. I’m sure there are innumerable thought criminals who will need to be jailed before they give voice to their rebeliousness.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 7, 2024 9:37 am
Reply to  Crossie

I think the key datum here, at least in Labour’s political equation, is that muslims are heavily overrepresented in the UK prison system, like in many other Western countries.

If you do not accept secular government as being legitimate then you tend to be less inhibited by secular laws.

Of course if you are a political party who has just lost several heartland seats to muslim independents then you quite like to get those seats back again.

Zatara
Zatara
July 7, 2024 8:23 pm

It’s rather like the complaint that blacks are over represented in the US prison system.

In 2019 blacks were 12.2% of the us population but represented 26.6% of total arrests, including 51.2% of murder arrests, 52.7% of robbery arrests, 28.8% of burglary arrests, 28.6% of motor vehicle theft arrests, 42.2% of prostitution arrests, and 26.1% of drug arrests (FBI’s Uniform Crime Report, Table 43).

Any over representation in prisons would appear to be a direct result of an over propensity for committing crimes.

Miltonf
Miltonf
July 7, 2024 9:18 am

Being Sunday and thinking about The Sermon on the Mount got me thinking about the village of Ebenezer near Windsor. I believe the oldest church in Australia is there. Ebenezer – the stone of help from the Book of Samuel. rather wonderful.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
July 7, 2024 6:09 pm
Reply to  Miltonf

How long before the wokerati campaign to change such place names?

Roger
Roger
July 7, 2024 9:18 am

Agree 100%- the meek will not inherit the Earth.

It’s a poor translation.

The Greek word, interpreted in the Biblical context, means those who exercise power wisely, as God does.

?

Miltonf
Miltonf
July 7, 2024 9:21 am
Reply to  Roger

Yes it comes across as weak and prissy.

Chris
Chris
July 7, 2024 10:01 am
Reply to  Roger

And here I was saying of COURSE the meek will inherit it; how else? It’s not like they are going to take it at sword point, amirite?

Arky
July 7, 2024 11:42 am
Reply to  Chris

It means meek like Caine from the TV series Kung Fu.
Quiet and unassuming but when pushed into a corner capable of kicking your arse.

Crossie
Crossie
July 7, 2024 9:19 am

Johnson wrote in the Daily Mail: “I say to my fellow Conservatives, we are the oldest, most successful political party in British history.”

“We are capable of endless regeneration. We don’t need to try to absorb other parties, to try to acquire their vitality like a transfusion of monkey glands.”

Says the former PM who still has a cannula sticking out of his arm from a green transfusion.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 7, 2024 10:15 am

Not doubting the Prof, but I got robocalled last weekend. I think it’s all systems go.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 7, 2024 10:19 am
Reply to  H B Bear

Suspect the kids-in-short-pants have decided, like Macron, it’s not going to get any better. You figure RBA have decided the next move is up and sometime before the next election.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 7, 2024 12:33 pm

Luigi has to call an election in the next 3 weeks for it to be at the end of August. Wouldn’t surprise me as can it get any worse. The proles are already spooked but still stupid enough for the pineapple.

Roger
Roger
July 7, 2024 9:26 am

The Greek word, interpreted in the Biblical context, means those who exercise power wisely, as God does.

We should also always consider the cultural milieu in the Mediterranean world which Jesus taught, which was one of paganism. Implicit in the saying is a rebuke of the powerful of the day who did not acknowledge God, usurped his role and too often exercised power without mercy.

So, what Jesus means is that when the kingdom comes, power will not be abused but will be exercised justly.

It’s an eschatological promise but also with implications for living in this world.

Last edited 7 months ago by Roger
Crossie
Crossie
July 7, 2024 9:33 am

He added: “We need to occupy the space ourselves – and my humble suggestion to the 121 is that they need to rebuild that giant coalition of 2019, get back to some of the big themes that proved so successful that we won seats across the country.”

Dear Boris, as soon as you won all those seats in 2019 you dropped all the big and popular themes and ran to the greens. You told half the people who voted for you to drop dead. So now they returned the favour.

You think you are so smart yet you couldn’t work out the give and take with the electorate. Wouldn’t those 5M votes that went to Reform Party have been handy in keeping together your giant coalition? Should the Conservative Party take your advice that five millions votes for Reform could grow to ten million in five years time.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 7, 2024 9:33 am

WA Senator Fatima Payman tells Labor ‘it’s not me, it’s you’ as she starts tenure as independentJoe SpagnoloThe West Australian
Sun, 7 July 2024 2:00AM

Comments

Former Labor Senator for WA Fatima Payman has accused Anthony Albanese of “petty” behaviour since she quit the party on Thursday, adding many members feel let down and disenfranchised by the Government she was once part of.
Senator Payman — who quit Labor to sit on the crossbench, citing its “indifference” to the plight of Palestinians in Gaza — on Saturday said she would not get involved in a public tit-for-tat with the Prime Minister over her decision to quit.
Mr Albanese this week said the WA public had voted for his party and not Senator Payman, who received about 1600 votes in the 2022 election, and she had “at no stage” stood up in caucus on the Middle East, WA or “about anything else”.
Asked about Mr Albanese’s assertion that voters voted for the ALP, not her, Senator Payman told The Sunday Times: “I am not going to get into the petty back and forth that he has been engaging in.”

But she said she was not alone in feeling disenchanted with Labor.
“They may have voted for the ALP, but I feel like the ALP has strayed away from its own values,” Senator Payman said in a wide-ranging interview just hours after she returned to Perth, in which she paid tribute to her “rock”, husband Jacob Stokes.
“West Australians voted to change the Government (in 2022). They voted for fairness, justice and equality.

Miltonf
Miltonf
July 7, 2024 9:34 am

Odd translators chose ‘meek’- Semon on the Mount only in Matthew apparently.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 7, 2024 9:37 am

We are off soon to join a fundraising lunch for Toby Young, founder of the British Free Speech Union, who is speaking today in Sydney.

Any other Cats going, say hello.

Rabz
July 7, 2024 9:39 am

A cavalcade of the Kamel’s soaring oratory featured on Outsiders makes her look and sound like she just fell out of a coconut tree onto a yellow school bus while pondering the passage of time.

No wonder the dumbocrats are desperately thrashing around trying to ditch both her and that festering syphilitic ol’ corruptocrat corpse.

In the meantime, my Sunday morning peace is being rudely shattered by some pigs in space.

Makka
Makka
July 7, 2024 9:46 am

Australia faces a series of divisive, populist and religious political challenges between now and the next election.

To Kelly: Well, no shit, Sherlock! What TF did you expect when we invited them in? That they would magically change their ideology to become normies like us?

Multiculturalism IS the problem, it transformed this country. I’m referring to the hordes arriving after Gough. We were never consulted about the transformation the Uniparty has inflicted on us. They just went ahead and fkd the country by importing the voteherds.

Now lamenting the political destruction, never mind the social shit soup we have become and now endure.

Well now that it appears Islam has the numbers politically to sway Govts, we can thank our glorious leaders for ruining what once was a wonderful place to live.

Miltonf
Miltonf
July 7, 2024 9:53 am
Reply to  Makka

Kelly has always been part of the problem. Just go away.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
July 7, 2024 9:47 am

Er no, it’s not “heartwarming”, it’s devastating. Seems like the deadhead drive for diversity has put women in the frontline soldiers’ positions, and now crowd control around the Head Of State in the middle of Raghead Stabby Land is handled by emotionally incontinent weaklings.
Heartwarming moment King’s Guard bursts into tears after being surprised by her parents while on duty | Daily Mail Online

Zippster
Zippster
July 7, 2024 9:51 am

We have too many prisoners, says new PM Starmer

maybe you should stop importing 3rd world criminals then?

All of which can be traced back to the problem of western women not having enough babies… because equality. herding women through higher education and into the workforce correlates strongly with below replacement fertility rates. There are numerous studies that show that the more education women have the lower the birth rate

Rather than admit the failure of equality as a civilizational unsustainable idea, they double down on importing the 3rd world

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check this one out – countries going over the fertility edge like lemmings

https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/fziqgl/oc_the_relationship_between_womens_education_and/#lightbox

Roger
Roger
July 7, 2024 9:59 am

Odd translators chose ‘meek’- Semon on the Mount only in Matthew apparently.

Translators face difficult choices. Meek in the 17 C could mean submissive, as in a servant submissive to his master’s will, which alluded also to the believer submitting to God’s will. In the centuries since, it has been denuded of that meaning.

Also, a casual contemporary reader of the New Testament is looking at English words that translate Greek words without the Biblical context, knowledge of which has largely disappeared. When translating the Greek NT, for example, the translators would have looked at how the Septuagint (a Greek translation of the Hebrew scriptures from c. 2ndC BC) used the word and this would have led them to the Hebrew word and context which illuminated the meaning. In both Hebrew and Greek, one Biblical word can carry a lot of freight in terms of meaning but even monoglot readers of the Bible in translation in previous eras could pick up on this because the culture was informed by the faith.

Modern English doesn’t have the same resonance, especially when read in the context of our very flat (i.e. lacking dimensional depth) culture.

Last edited 7 months ago by Roger
Lysander
Lysander
July 7, 2024 10:09 am
Reply to  Roger

I always associated meekness, in the biblical sense, as a sort of (powerful) humility?

Roger
Roger
July 7, 2024 10:19 am
Reply to  Lysander

Yes, that’s about right, Lysander.

Even a king has to know his place under God.

You can see how this belief wended its way into Western culture.

Last edited 7 months ago by Roger
Lysander
Lysander
July 7, 2024 10:24 am
Reply to  Roger

Perhaps that’s why I immediately thought of the juxtaposition between Kings Saul and David.

Didnt God say “I loved David and hated Saul” (which is interesting given David was quite the pr!ck at times; but he learned humility whereas Saul kept all the laws, but then went and made some up for himself!)

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
July 7, 2024 10:04 am

Extract from Sheridan piece in the Oz……

I have previously written that Starmer resembles a British Anthony Albanese. He came from a working class background, did well at university where he was a far-left activist. Unlike most politicians, he had a big career before politics, as a human rights lawyer, then Director of Public Prosecutions.
Starmer is brainy and works hard. Too deep immersion in the law has rendered it impossible for Starmer to write felicitous prose or create memorable images. Perhaps he’s a British combination of Albanese and Mark Dreyfus, with a touch of Gareth Evans.
Starmer has provided a small target. It’s not clear people are voting primarily for Labour; they voted ferociously against the Conservatives. Starmer tried not to interrupt while the Conservatives committed political suicide.

UK is ferked for a while. Let’s hope Australia wakes up to Sleazy quicker.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 7, 2024 10:22 am
Reply to  Barking Toad

Perhaps he’s a British combination of Albanese and Mark Dreyfus, with a touch of Gareth Evans.

Oh dear

Last edited 7 months ago by H B Bear
H B Bear
H B Bear
July 7, 2024 10:25 am
Reply to  H B Bear

The last person who got a touch of Gareth Evans was Cheryl Kernot and that ended badly (for her).

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
July 7, 2024 6:15 pm
Reply to  H B Bear

I’m surprised, given his flawless record (sarc), that they haven’t resurrected Gareth to give seminars on courteous and respectful treatment of staff.

Miltonf
Miltonf
July 7, 2024 10:41 am
Reply to  H B Bear

He not called dibbler Sheridan for nothing

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 7, 2024 10:26 am
Reply to  Barking Toad

Five year terms don’t help.

Aaron
Aaron
July 7, 2024 11:26 am
Reply to  Barking Toad

“Starmer is brainy and works hard.”

While ANAL is a lazy dullard whose whole intellectual armoury was shaped by Billy Bragg and a few Midnight Oil albums.

Miltonf
Miltonf
July 7, 2024 10:05 am

The King James is still my favourite although it can be heavy going at times.

Lysander
Lysander
July 7, 2024 10:12 am
Reply to  Miltonf

I prefer the New Jerusalem as it is littered with footnotes that will, for example, take you to other references in other biblical books that mention “meek.”

The footnotes in the NJ also help explain how and why things have been translated the way they’ve been…

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 7, 2024 10:17 am
Reply to  Miltonf

Strong’s Concordance for the KJV is a good resource. Gives you all the Hebrew and Greek word meanings behind the KJV text.

https://studybible.info/KJV_Strongs/

Miltonf
Miltonf
July 7, 2024 10:26 am
Reply to  Miltonf

noted- thanks to you both

Indolent
Indolent
July 7, 2024 10:06 am
Makka
Makka
July 7, 2024 10:07 am

@iamyesyouareno

The absolute state of England. This is the new mayor of Brighton.

https://x.com/iamyesyouareno/status/1809674113020989656

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
July 7, 2024 2:39 pm
Reply to  Makka

Astonishing! I thought Brighton was alphabet city!

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
July 7, 2024 11:23 pm
Reply to  hzhousewife

Indeed it is. Someone I know who needed to visit a doctor there said the surgery felt like a kinky clap clinic with a bit of incidental general practice attached. How the new mayor squares that circle will be interesting to watch.

Chris
Chris
July 7, 2024 10:11 am

The Greek word, interpreted in the Biblical context, means those who exercise power wisely, as God does.

We should also always consider the cultural milieu in the Mediterranean world which Jesus taught, which was one of paganism. Implicit in the saying is a rebuke of the powerful of the day who did not acknowledge God, usurped his role and too often exercised power without mercy.

So, what Jesus means is that when the kingdom comes, power will not be abused but will be exercised justly.

It’s an eschatological promise but also with implications for living in this world.

Roger, thank you very much. I have been repeatedly niggled throughout my life by that inane assertion in the sermon on the mount.

No more!

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 7, 2024 11:40 am
Reply to  Indolent

Just like our Liars Party.

Miltonf
Miltonf
July 7, 2024 10:15 am

Yes thank you Roger

Roger
Roger
July 7, 2024 10:26 am

To Kelly: Well, no shit, Sherlock! What TF did you expect when we invited them in? That they would magically change their ideology to become normies like us?

Indeed, that was/is the prog-left secularist conceit, Makka.

“Our progressive culture is so superior that these backward religious folk will relinquish their beliefs once exposed to it.”

People like Kelly are having difficulty digesting their failure to diagnose the problem that Islam presents in Western countries.

Last edited 7 months ago by Roger
H B Bear
H B Bear
July 7, 2024 10:31 am
Reply to  Roger

Snoozer Kelly has lots of problems. J’ism as the first draft of history (usually wrong).

Miltonf
Miltonf
July 7, 2024 10:35 am
Reply to  H B Bear

A pompous twot from way back.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 7, 2024 11:41 am
Reply to  H B Bear

mUntyfa is a j’ismist.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 7, 2024 10:35 am
Reply to  Roger

Progs have difficulty when the great unwashed don’t accept their world view. See, for example, Brexit and the Voice.

Makka
Makka
July 7, 2024 10:40 am
Reply to  Roger

People like Kelly are having difficulty digesting their failure to diagnose the problem that Islam presents in Western countries.

They have already digested it Roger. Grubs like Kelly are now trying to camouflage their failure with mincing words and haughty political theorem. Pontificating over our national demise. The truth is it’s been a disaster, they know it and so do many many Aussies.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 7, 2024 11:05 am
Reply to  Makka

Plenty of Liars have their “road to Damascus” moment when freed from the burden of seeking preselection. Like Islamic refugee flow, not much going back the other way. The funniest one ever was a long time Hawke minister admitted as a private patient whinging about his gap fees and the public patient next to him.

Tom
Tom
July 7, 2024 11:44 am
Reply to  Roger

“Our progressive culture is so superior that these backward religious folk will relinquish their beliefs once exposed to it.”

The left’s adoption of muslims as their useful idiots is far more primitive. The left sees muslim immigration simply as a method of speeding up the collapse of Western democracy by further sowing the social division so beloved by Marxists.

Roger
Roger
July 7, 2024 10:36 am

Roger, thank you very much. I have been repeatedly niggled throughout my life by that inane assertion in the sermon on the mount.

If I could offer one suggestion to anyone listening to the Gospel reading in church today or any other day, it would be to remember that the Gospels have three contexts.

The first context is the Hebrew scriptures (the Old Testament).

The second context is the 1st century pagan Mediterranean world.

The third context is today.

We should attempt to understand the first two contexts before applying the message to the third. There are commentaries and study bibles with cultural notes produced by reputable scholars that can help you do this. You may even be blessed with a preacher who explains it all in the sermon (if your church follows the Revised Common Lectionary, note that the Old Testament reading, the Psalm and possibly the epistle are usually related to the Gospel reading; this was done on purpose!).

Here endeth the lesson! 😀

Last edited 7 months ago by Roger
Lysander
Lysander
July 7, 2024 10:43 am
Reply to  Roger

Indeed!

and each author has his own audience!

Chris
Chris
July 7, 2024 11:13 am
Reply to  Roger

When I read a ‘chronological bible’ for the first time it became clear that each book or part was written at a time and for a purpose.

What you say above is very helpful. Our group is studying Revelation this year, using an IMO rather shallow study booklet. We are also using Verse By Verse Ministries web resources as additional reading which are illuminating by cross-referencing the symbolism to the rest of scripture.

Christian youngsters/newbies are very focused on God’s role as Father and personal saviour, and his love in their lives. Revelation is about a completely different perspective: God’s complete intention for creation and ultimate fulfilment of his intentions. Revelation is an illustration of God’s glory.

Plus, the most naive really want the simplicity of literal implementation of the text in front of them, as a form of magical power over the universe that they can claim. Us autistic engineering minds can’t abide that.

So your perspective here helps make those outlooks coherent.

KevinM
KevinM
July 7, 2024 10:39 am

Makka
July 7, 2024 10:07 am

The absolute state of England. This is the new mayor of Brighton.The absolute state of England. This is the new mayor of Brighton.

I see it but don’t believe it.
Well yes I do.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
July 7, 2024 5:24 pm
Reply to  KevinM

We cannot say we weren’t warned – hey warned us themselves this is what they were going to do.

KevinM
KevinM
July 7, 2024 10:43 am

Why did they need such huge flywheels?

Screenshot-2024-07-07-082959
Chris
Chris
July 7, 2024 10:51 am
Reply to  KevinM

Single acting piston – ie power on only one quarter of the cycle.
Heavy, possibly unpredictable loads eg line shafts driving multiple belt driven equipment that may cut in without regard to stage of power cycle.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 7, 2024 12:18 pm
Reply to  Chris

Chris the twin cylinder steam engine is more than likely to have 4 power strokes per rev, its not an internal combustion engine of the the 4 stroke variety.

Chris
Chris
July 7, 2024 1:05 pm
Reply to  GreyRanga

True! I just read ‘Exactly’ by Colin Winchester and he talks of Wilkinson, (Iron Master) inventing a system for boring solid cast cannon. (This allows far better grain structure and many fewer casting failures.)
He ordered a Watt steam engine to power his plant and it was useless, so he precision bored the cylinder which was order of a metre diameter, to plus or minus the thickness of a sixpence. Result: happiness.
That motor was the first or second generation, still single-acting and single cylinder; I wondered about my 25% but decided it was mere rhetorical overstatement if wrong! 😉

Vicki
Vicki
July 7, 2024 11:12 am
Reply to  KevinM

Some similar amazing machinery at the Lithgow (NSW) Small Arms & industrial machinery museum.

Chris
Chris
July 7, 2024 11:27 am
Reply to  Vicki

I have GOT to go see that.
I just wrote an article about interchangeable parts as a building brick of the industrial revolution. The Lithgow SAF is a beautiful illustrative story of that progress.

Bill From The Bush
Bill From The Bush
July 7, 2024 11:21 am
Reply to  KevinM

Mass provides a buffer when changing loads.
Massive torque required to get it up to operating speed, but equally massive torque required to slow it down.
The rods for the pump at the bottom of the shaft weighed many thousands of pounds as well. They needed such a large flywheel to smooth out the combined mass and the pulses from the steam engine.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
July 7, 2024 11:24 am
Reply to  KevinM

Exactly as Chris says above.

The larger the size of the flywheel, in terms of mass and diameter, the more useful energy the system stored.

Bruce
Bruce
July 7, 2024 5:49 pm
Reply to  KevinM

Basically,to smooth-out the sometimes erratic behaviour of the steam driven pistons.

Early steam engines were made to “dubious” tolerances.. “Metrology” was a barely-emerging science when all of this started.

The big flywheel was connected to an array of shafts that drove all manner of machinery. Weird speed changes could damage the more lightly-constructed ones.

In some aspects, we have come a long way since the “industrial revolution” started.

The Luddites now rule over us, abusing the very industrial power they have always despised, to stifle and crush dissent.

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Bourne1879
Bourne1879
July 7, 2024 10:49 am

Horizon movie.
Went to see it last night. Only opened last Thursday and due to length and perhaps low interest Event cinemas only having 2 showings per day.
Wife and I were one of only three couples in the cinema. One couple left after one hour.
Apparently Costner been working on the project since 1988 and had put over US$30m of own money into it. Seems plan is to have 4 parts as movies so am guessing about 12 hours. Part 2 is next month.
Movie 3 hours long and movies cover 12 year period starting just before Civil War. Four different story lines which can be summarised as follows :
Costner saves a prostitute and a kid and being chased.
Sienna Miller and Sam Worthington Indian attack and aftermath.
Jeff Fahey leading group who go Indian hunting after the attack.
Luke Wilson leading wagon train through Indian country.
All heading towards the virgin land at Horizon.
Now to be clear I am a long time Costner fan from days of Dances With Wolves, Untouchables and The Bodyguard, Field of Dreams.
Plenty of recognisable faces in the smaller acting roles.
Some particularly good scenes are Costner and another character walking up a hill and find going to same cabin. The Indian attack. Farewell of some of the young soldiers going to fight in Civil War.
The last 5 minutes was basically previewing scenes from future parts.
I enjoyed it and recommend it if you are a Western fan as plenty of good characters and interesting storylines.
Not sure why it is not doing good box office and critics not reviewing well. Perhaps we are now at stage where people wait for things to go to streaming.
I think it deserves to do well. May take a while to recoup it’s budget but I note this from the Wikipedia entry:
Costner later explained plans for additional monetary gains through licensing the film series every several years through streaming and home video media, regardless of their box office performance”.

If streaming companies willing to spend well over $100m for some exclusive movies then this series worth multiples of that and that alone should recoup it’s costs.

My wife did not like it so much as there is killing of women and kids.

If you are a Costner / Western fan go and see it as might not be at the cinema for long..

Christine
Christine
July 7, 2024 12:16 pm
Reply to  Bourne1879

Thank you. Review is appreciated.

shatterzzz
July 7, 2024 1:14 pm
Reply to  Bourne1879

Good review .. download in progress …..! Watch it tonight, don’t mind Costner and Luv my westerns .. LOL!
Still reckon “3 000 miles to Gracelands” one of his best ……!

https://www.imdb.com/find/?q=3000%20miles%20%20to%20Gracelands&ref_=nv_sr_sm

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Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 7, 2024 10:50 am

Via Instapundit…

David ‘Iowahawk’ Burge Declares He Is Running for President (5 Jul)

Vote early and often Cats! 😀

Zatara
Zatara
July 7, 2024 8:40 pm
  • Will veto every f—king bill that Congress sends me, get a 2/3 majority a———s

He won me right there.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 7, 2024 11:12 am

Faruqi won’t say if Hamas should be dismantled
Greens international justice spokeswoman Mehreen Faruqi has refused to say whether she believes Hamas should be dismantled and has declared “it’s a bit rich” of Anthony Albanese to say the pro-Palestinian protest on top of parliament house was not peaceful.

And in reference to the pro-Palestinian grafitti on the Australian War Memorial, Senator Faruqi said that “a bit of paint” paled in comparison to what was being done by Israel.

Senator Faruqi slammed Labor for not backing a Greens motion to recognise Palestine “without caveats”, including that such recognition be part of “a peace protest”, and said it was “offensive” of the government to describe the Greens’ actions as purely political.

But when grilled on the role of Hamas in Palestine, Senator Faruqi would not back the need for the terrorist organisation to be dismantled.

“The situation (with) Hamas.. I can’t keep repeating it again and again. It has nothing to do with Palestinian statehood and Palestinian self-determination,” she said on ABC’s Insiders.

When asked again if Hamas should be dismantled, she said: “The Palestinians need to decide where they want to go with their own region” and that the matter should not be up to western countries.

“Instead of questioning the Labor government hard on why they aren’t stopping the slaughter, why they aren’t putting sanctions on Israel… That’s the question to ask – not a hypothetical theoretical scenario,” she said, in response to being asked a third time on if Hamas should be dismantled.

“Hamas is listed as a terrorist organisation. And there is no – absolutely no change that we are demanding in that.

“Hamas is an organisation that exists in the region that we are talking about here. Who will dismantle it? It is up to the people in Palestine and that region to make sure that people can live in peace… It’s not up to me to say who should be gone or not.”

Senator Faruqi defended the pro-Palestinian protests outside of the Prime Minister office, which has left Mr Albanese and his staff choosing a different location with which to work from, and said it was not “a blockade”.

“People do have a right to go outside the Prime Minister’s office and request, request, that he meet them,” she said.

“The Prime Minister should just meet them rather than blaming those who are protesting a genocide.”

johnjjj
johnjjj
July 7, 2024 11:27 am

Great. The Muz will be the death of the Greens. The environment, climate change and all the other Green dribble, they couldn’t care less about. The religion started in a desert, probably a result of goats and camels. Just keep them on this one issue they can not wavier from.

Vicki
Vicki
July 7, 2024 11:19 am

Anyone who watched Outsiders this morning saw it unceremoniously closed down towards the end? There had been an item relating to the time Trump apparently said to a Taliban rep that he had a photo of his house. Straight after this Rita began saying words to the effect that Trump “scared the shit out of….” She was abruptly shut down by the studio & the telecast went to the following Business show!

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 7, 2024 11:47 am
Reply to  Vicki

They can’t handle the truth.

shatterzzz
July 7, 2024 11:28 am

Multiculturalism IS the problem, it transformed this country. I’m referring to the hordes arriving after Gough. We were never consulted about the transformation the Uniparty has inflicted on us. They just went ahead and fkd the country by importing the voteherds.
 
When I moved into this, totally separated from private, brand new, “houso” estate in 1988 it was 98% white .. most worked, Dads at least, back then folk who were in the position to save for deposits did & by 1995 it was down to 30% white and, well known as, the drug capital of SW Sydney, those that could get out were gone/going and by 2000 it was 10% white .. now out of 69 properties there are 4, English as their Language, families left …..
The big difference in changing “nationality” occupation is simple .. The, original, white families, tho poor, were working and saving to improve themselves .. once the boat-folk came in they didn’t work, most didn’t speak English or intend too .. They’ve had no incentive to “improve” cos cheap, subsidized, rent, welfare payments & favourable treatment, across the board, from all levels of gummint and the realization that they’ll always get away with the “lettuce leaf” treatment that white folk pay penalties for ……..
This anti white, gummint, discrimination is entrenched and isn’t gonna change .. any time soon ..!
In 1988 there were “strict” occupational rules for “houso” .. break any of ’em and you were evicted .. no ifs or buts! .. By 2000 those “rules” (most of which still exist, on paper, today) had been pushed onto the backburner as the boatfolk weren’t concerned by them and no one was intent on enforcing .. thus you now have the, fascinating, “houso” “inheritance” scheme where the parents either die or move on but the folk left (usually grown kids & families but not alwayz) in occupation just carry on as if nuttin’ has changed .. generally, as long as your NOT white* ……

A very simplified version of how the now version of “houso” evolved …

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Bruce
Bruce
July 7, 2024 11:29 am
shatterzzz
July 7, 2024 11:31 am

DOVER, my straight forward self written post @ 11.28 has been flagged as “spam” for some reason .. could you release it, pleeeze ……
I didn’t save it & too long to recall from memory ..!

Last edited 7 months ago by shatterzzz
Makka
Makka
July 7, 2024 11:32 am

“The Palestinians need to decide where they want to go with their own region” 

You’re in a loop luv. The Palis have already overwhelmingly decided where they want to go – with Hamas. A terrorist organisation.

dopey
dopey
July 7, 2024 1:11 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

Dover getting his hopes up.

JC
JC
July 7, 2024 12:16 pm

Dover

If your country is being turned into a pile of rubble and before long the residents will be living under tents, what does losing look like?

CharlieP
CharlieP
July 7, 2024 12:20 pm

What can have led to the hideously horrible ‘domestic homicide’ in Sydney where children were apparently forced into the house to be burned alive? The woman was only 29 and the man 28 yet apparently there were ?8 children in the house.
Our local residents’ group, normally concerned with building applications and planning issues and the state of the local parks is inviting us to a talk on domestic violence. We will be hearing from the CEO of a specialist multicultural family violence service provider. We live in a small suburb with a predominance of older people – why is this suddenly an issue for us?
Something is very wrong.

shatterzzz
July 7, 2024 12:26 pm
Reply to  CharlieP

7 kids and both parents under 30, ethnicity not mentioned but suburb Lalor Park offers a clue ..

shatterzzz
July 7, 2024 12:30 pm

Can’t remember the the wording of the entire post that got “spammed” but this is the gist of it …

Multiculturalism IS the problem, it transformed this country. I’m referring to the hordes arriving after Gough. We were never consulted about the transformation the Uniparty has inflicted on us. They just went ahead and fkd the country by importing the voteherds.
 
When I moved into this,totally separated from private, “houso” estate in 1988 it was 98% white .. most worked, Dads at least, back then folk who were in the position to save for deposits did by 1995 it was down to 30% white and, well known as, the drug capital of SW Sydney, those that could get out were gone and by 2000 it was 10% white .. now out of 69 properties there are 4 white families left …..
The big difference in changing “nationality” occupation is simple .. The, original, white families were working and saving to improve themselves .. once the boat-folk were in they didn’t work, most didn’t speak English or intend too .. They’ve had no incentive to “improve” cos cheap, subsidized, rent, welfare payments & favourable treatment, across the board, from all levels of gummint and the realization that they’ll always get away with the “lettuce leaf” treatment that white folk pay penalties for ……..
?Back in 1988 “houso” had strict occupational rules (most still on the books..!) but by 2000 they had been, conveniently, forgotten …..!
The anti white discrimination is entrenched and isn’t gonna change .. any time soon ..!

JC
JC
July 7, 2024 12:43 pm

Let’s start with the false and misleading premise of the piece. that the battle that Israel is waging is comparable to the conflicts that the US has been in since World War II. 
Every single war the US has been involved in since WW2 has been a result of choice. The US chose these fights, and they weren’t existential. On the other hand, Israel’s war is totally existential. The US wasn’t fighting someone next door. They were quite distant from the continental US. The US chose to enter these fights and then chose to exit. Israel doesn’t have this choice. It will turn into a fight to the death if needed, and Israel won’t lose this war even if it means they have to kill every last Palestinian. Existential wars are different.
 
Furthermore, if Israel needs to change tactics and kill more of these swine, it will do so.
 
I’m a little taken aback that you’re clinging to a Foreign Affairs piece because I assumed you were no longer associated with the “regime”.

John H.
John H.
July 7, 2024 1:55 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

Everyone is losing. Recruitment drives are failing in many countries. Hardware issues are a chronic problem. China is training 3 times more pilots than the USA, they can’t build F35s quick enough to fill the orders, just finished a huge upgrade to the F22s even though it is now an older model, is spending a fortune on the F15ex which is an incredibly expensive exercise, and can’t find enough army recruits due to physical and mental health issues. Over a decade ago an RAAF officer commented there are more fighter pilots in Cathay airlines than in the RAAF and at present there are ongoing ads for the Army Reserve but recruitment for regular army is way below replacement levels. Even Putin had to hire mercenary groups for key objectives, offer much larger salaries to recruits, can’t replace aircraft and tanks at a good enough rate, and has sacked a large number of commanders.

JC
JC
July 7, 2024 12:50 pm

Dover

A towel head was a half broken AK 47 and a couple of rounds is going get blown up soon enough, so I wouldn’t be hopeful for the Palis if I were you.

Moreover, if the IDF needs to go back to northern rubble and kill more of these swine it will do so.

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Zippster
Zippster
July 7, 2024 12:50 pm
Steve trickler
Steve trickler
July 7, 2024 12:51 pm

I’ve got a few kilograms of drumbsticks to cook up, so I’ve taken notes from this clip.

Turn on CC and you get all the ingredients listed on screen.

—–

Wilderness Cooking:

The Village Has Its Own Best KFC! Crispy Chicken Legs For All Children

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkHH4LX_kRg

Chris
Chris
July 7, 2024 1:09 pm
Reply to  dover0beach

And remember: a vote for Iowahawk is a vote for the meek of the earth!

JC
JC
July 7, 2024 1:07 pm

 Dover,
 
Just so we’re on the same page here. When people link to what you consider “regime” publications, you become critical of the link, but rarely the substance. How does your position hold by linking to one of the most “regimey” publications (Foreign Affairs) and that “it’s worth a read”?

Miltonf
Miltonf
July 7, 2024 1:13 pm

It’s going to be messy jemmying the old perv out though. Dr Jill will resist like a vicious alley cat.

JC
JC
July 7, 2024 1:16 pm
Reply to  Miltonf

I’m not clear on one important aspect of this abortion. Can pledged delegates change their mind at the convention if the corpse remains in the race?

I’ve read that they can and also the opposite – they can’t.

Miltonf
Miltonf
July 7, 2024 1:24 pm
Reply to  JC

Rules don’t apply to the rats. They do what they feel like. There’s always arkancide too

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 7, 2024 2:46 pm
Reply to  Miltonf

Fight you leftard bastards, fight.

Black Ball
Black Ball
July 7, 2024 1:17 pm

I see Andrew Giles is in some hot water. Again.
A bit laborious to cut and paste from the Sky app but the story is that he has apparently misled parliament by his utterances on the use of drones to surveil the detainees let free by the High Court. Let me see if I can find another way

Black Ball
Black Ball
July 7, 2024 1:20 pm

Sky News can reveal the document that Immigration Minister Andrew Giles relied on when he made his wrong statement to Kieran Gilbert in May, alleging that drones were monitoring detainees released after the NZYQ High Court decision.

The document shows that the Immigration Minister was told that there was drone surveillance to assess properties where the detainees were staying but not the detainees themselves.

Sky News Political Editor Andrew Clennell says clearly Mr Giles didn’t read the document properly and tried to blame his department for the blunder.

Don’t you feel safe knowing this bloke is in charge and across his brief? Good Lord

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
July 7, 2024 1:24 pm

Repeat.

A classic from Paul.

Paul Hertzog – Steal the night (HQ Audio)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CercOhZJKLg

Black Ball
Black Ball
July 7, 2024 1:26 pm

Speaking of ministers totally in charge:

NDIS Minister Bill Shorten says regulations that allow participants to access government-funded sex workers will be scrapped, saying it “doesn’t pass the test” for a service that is reasonable or necessary.

Appearing on Sky Sunday Agenda, Mr Shorten said while most NDIS participants were “doing the right thing,” he conceded the “rules have been a bit loose at the margins”.

In turn, this has led to service providers rorting the system, allowing people to claim services such as international group trips to Japan, steam rooms and cryptocurrency.

“The way the scheme works is you get a personal budget. We want to make sure that you get your personal budgets done with a good needs assessment,” he said.

“Then what we want to do is make sure that you’ve got the ability to get things that are reasonable and necessary.

“Part of me is sort of groans whenever I’ve got to go through some of the rubbish that some people have claimed, but that’s not what most people are doing.”

Asked specifically about whether participants could continue to claim the use of sex workers under the proposed new reforms, Mr Shorten ruled it out.

“It’s just not a sustainable proposition. It just doesn’t pass the test,” he said.

However, he added the government was only aware of “one or two” examples of it happening.

“It’s not what’s happening in most of the scheme,” Mr Shorten said.

“While people with disabilities are currently able to access government-funded sexual support services, strict eligibility requirements apply.”

Previously disability advocates told a senate inquiry that the NDIS should include a sexuality framework with women with disabilities choosing not to date out of fear of being exposed to high rates of sexual violence.

“Even though I could date on Tinder, it was toxic, and it was violent, and it was volatile, and if I hadn’t met my partner I would be looking to have access (to sex support) because it was not safe to continue to date men in the community,” said People With Disabilities president Nicole Lee.

Mr Shorten remained on the warpath after the Coalition and the Greens stalled passing major reforms for a further eight weeks, with the legislation to be subjected to an inquiry.

Labor has said its NDIS reforms will save $14.4bn over the next five years, and will focus on tightening rules around services and expand safeguards and assessment criteria on people accessing the scheme.

The disgruntled minister has claimed the delay will cost taxpayers $1m an hour, until parliament resumes sitting following the midwinter break.

It’s not any delay that’s costing taxpayers Tits, it’s the NDIS itself.
As far as Nicole Lee, not sure what she is on about. Is she saying disabled women should be using NDIS for getting their rocks off?

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 7, 2024 2:12 pm
Reply to  Black Ball

As a NDIS participant I’m currently having issues with getting invoices paid and in an (apparently) long queue for a plan review. Plenty of sand in the NDIS gears.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
July 7, 2024 6:23 pm
Reply to  Black Ball

The ABC worker soviet will be demanding taxpayer-funded ‘sex workers’ as a workplace entitlement before we know it. Remember, Jon Stevens was helping himself to the under-age male talent on the chorus line in 1981.

Indolent
Indolent
July 7, 2024 1:31 pm

I was on statins for a short time (I can’t tolerate them) and my blood works went haywire.
The Great Cholesterol Scam and The Dangers of Statins

JC
JC
July 7, 2024 1:45 pm

The war against communist expansion in South Vietnam was sold as an existential threat to the US.

All wars have to be sold, even non-existential ones. According to you now, Vietnam was existential. Can you row this boat a little further as would be good to see how far you get to the drop.

I’m not ‘clinging’ to the article. It’s an interesting article largely because it appears in a regime organ.

Interesting. It’s an interesting article because it appears in a regime organ. Which means you’re going to discuss substance now, rather than attack the publication. Excellent to know.

JC
JC
July 7, 2024 1:47 pm

Having to repeatedly enter areas you previously cleared isn’t a winning strategy.

Because Foreign Affairs says so?

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
July 7, 2024 1:50 pm

( :

Together In Electric Dreams (12″ Extended Version) 720p HD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1DwTcSlgqs

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
July 7, 2024 2:11 pm

Classic!

Taylor Dayne – Tell It To My Heart (Moreno J Remix)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zm9QqB_zf8