Open Thread – Mon 8 July 2024


Boulevard of Capucines, Claude Monet, 1883

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Cassie of Sydney
July 9, 2024 6:59 pm

In a related vein I attended a minyan (memorial service after a funeral) at a “progressive” synagogue here in Melbourne recently. In the lobby was donation box for the asylum seeker resource centre in Canberra but I didn’t see any similar thing for Jewish charities or Israeli victims. I almost spat on the floor in disgust.

Unsurprised, Vagabond. Reform Judaism is not my cup of tea. Milquetoast Judaism, it’s led to the collapse of American Jewry. Reform doesn’t have the same presence here or in the UK.

I think I know the progressive shul you went to. I was there in December 2018 for a Batmizvah, it’s all about ‘Tikkun Olam’.

132andBush
132andBush
July 9, 2024 7:02 pm

Strange, Nigel Farage went to Westminster the day after his election win. And I have just seen a picture of Nigel Farage and the other Reform MPs standing in the great hall of Westminster, taken less than an hour ago.

Monty suffers another bout of premature exclamation.

Pogria
Pogria
July 9, 2024 7:02 pm

I have faith in the future of the West while ever there are young men being raised such as this young man.

https://www.breitbart.com/local/2024/07/08/watch-cant-teach-this-kind-of-courage-teen-jumps-onto-runaway-boat-after-captain-goes-overboard/

132andBush
132andBush
July 9, 2024 7:05 pm

Trump will pick someone who does not have a high profile.

Beertruk
Beertruk
July 9, 2024 7:14 pm

Pogria
 July 9, 2024 7:02 pm

I have faith in the future of the West while ever there are young men being raised such as this young man.
https://www.breitbart.com/local/2024/07/08/watch-cant-teach-this-kind-of-courage-teen-jumps-onto-runaway-boat-after-captain-goes-overboard/

Toxic Masculinity at its best. 🙂

Cassie of Sydney
July 9, 2024 7:37 pm

UK newspaper the Independent has just uploaded this piece on Farage and Reform MPs arriving at Westminster this morning (UK time), it’s about 10.30 a.m. in the morning….

Nigel Farage arriving at Westminster

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/nigel-farage-richard-tice-westminster-mps-commons-b2576458.html

Uploaded only hour ago, oh and The Independent is not some ‘far-right’ media outlet, it leans left.

Pogria
Pogria
July 9, 2024 7:39 pm
Rosie
Rosie
July 9, 2024 7:41 pm

Just had an opportunity to observe the Canberra public health system close up.
Not as bad as I thought it would be, in the paediatric arena anyhow.
Rehydrated and sent home thank goodness.
They checked to see which particular virus was the culprit, turned out to be influenza A on top of croup, I have been well and truly exposed so fingers crossed I dont get a dose.

Beertruk
Beertruk
July 9, 2024 7:48 pm

m0nty
 July 9, 2024 6:40 pm

Farage didn’t even turn up for his first day at Westminster, LOL.

Cassie of Sydney
 July 9, 2024 7:37 pm

UK newspaper the Independent has just uploaded this piece on Farage and Reform MPs arriving at Westminster this morning (UK time), it’s about 10.30 a.m. in the morning….
Nigel Farage arriving at Westminster
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/nigel-farage-richard-tice-westminster-mps-commons-b2576458.html
Uploaded only hour ago, oh and The Independent is not some ‘far-right’ media outlet, it leans left.

Explain yourself Monty.

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Bourne1879
Bourne1879
July 9, 2024 7:48 pm

Jordan Petersen interviewed Tommy Robinson in Canada via JP Youtube.
Robinson is one of the bravest guys around and interview well worth a listen. He cries at one point and you can understand why. Chances are he may go to jail soon after returns to UK. For telling the truth (an incredible story).
Born in 1982 in Luton. One mosque at that time and now 45.
Why the Establishment Hates This Man | Tommy Robinson | EP 462

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
July 9, 2024 7:55 pm

This:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-07-09/teenagers-charged-with-murder-warrawong-brawl-kristie-mcbride/104076574

But the GayBC rahes against Opus Dei schools that teach purity, chastity, temperance, modesty, self-control…..

Megan
Megan
July 9, 2024 7:57 pm

The Prime Minister said people of Jewish faith, like Palestinians and Muslims, overwhelmingly did not want the conflict in the Middle East to inspire discord in Australia

Ho, ho, ho. Largish pachyderm type assumption in that statement.

Gabor
Gabor
July 9, 2024 8:01 pm

Whoever posted the link to J Peterson’s interview with Tommy R, I find it interesting but I had to stop a few times to recover.

Tommy is like a windmill, gesticulating while he speaks, most distracting.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 9, 2024 8:04 pm

That great 15yo schoolgirl steeringthe bus to safety, absolutely marvellous. I paid for reading about something good. I always scroll down to see what other things are in the news, I was suitably rewarded with eye bleach, knickerless and look a like hubby. Only their mothers can tell them apart.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
July 9, 2024 8:14 pm

Rellies in Vic telling me some deciduous trees already budding and the wattles sprouting flowers, know Golden Wattle is not usual to late July and my memory has it as more August at full bloom. You guys about to have an early spring brewing there?

Ag Dept report says a warmer than average 3 months:

https://agriculture.vic.gov.au/support-and-resources/newsletters/the-break/the-fast-break-victoria

Cassie of Sydney
July 9, 2024 8:30 pm

Just in, UK Sky News (no relation to Oz Sky News) has posted footage of Nigel and the other Reform MPs arriving at Westminster this morning (UK time)….

https://news.sky.com/video/nigel-farages-reform-uk-mps-arrive-at-parliament-13175460

This was uploaded by UK Sky only 52 minutes ago.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 9, 2024 8:32 pm

Inside Qartaba Homes’ unravelling interest-free sharia development schemeAlexi Demetriadi
35 minutes ago

A western Sydney property development company that offered a halal-friendly “interest-free housing solution” has left hundreds of Muslim families facing ruin amid allegations that it mortgaged its own mosque in breach of sharia law.
The developer, Qartaba Homes, spruiked its interest-free solution as motivated by Islamic anti-interest sharia laws, but has since gone into administration.
The victims are mostly Muslim families from Pakistan who came to Australia to start a life and buy a home but have seen their lands possessed and sold at auction.
Qartaba and its sister company Hume Homes are run by Wajahat Rana, Khurram Jawaid and Kashif Aziz. Since 2012, Qartaba has sold lots off the plan in western Sydney, Melbourne’s eastern suburbs, and southern Queensland.
It promoted itself as Australia’s “interest-free halal answer” to the housing market’s “fluctuating interest rates”, primarily targeting Muslim families.
Qartaba would buy land before selling it to customers off the plan per lot. Customers would pay a deposit for the land, before then paying monthly or quarterly develop­ment costs or land payments, which would be interest free.

Qartaba even named streets after Pakistan’s major cities, such as Lahore St and Karachi St.
Customers who bought land a decade ago, and paid development costs, are still waiting for ownership of the property. Some are waiting for construction to start.
Others have had their lots sold off, auctioned by creditors who possessed the land after Qartaba failed to pay its debt.
In many cases, Qartaba had mortgaged the land to secure those loans, without notifying customers, who – speaking on the condition of anonymity – alleged it was so that it could borrow and build more. Some have claimed incompetence.
Others have alleged criminality, and that emails and phone calls go unanswered to directors who don’t answer the door at their Riverstone offices.

Ek roll ap die vloor…

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 9, 2024 8:38 pm

You guys about to have an early spring brewing there?

Amazing what a really big kaboom can do for the weather.

Hunga Tonga volcano: impact on record warming (5 Jul)

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Big and wet! Water vapour is a real greenhouse gas, unlike wimpy CO2.

Cassie of Sydney
July 9, 2024 8:39 pm

Oh and here is the Times & Sunday Times footage of Nigel Farage arriving this morning (UK time) at the House of Commons with Reform MPs, uploaded 57 minutes ago…..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEyvVZo7JqI

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
July 9, 2024 8:52 pm

Gee whiz, Bruce- would you mind giving us scrollin’ amateurs a brief exposition of your chart?
…….not to worry, I read the article…
Vine leaves were very late hanging on here, pears also. Some vines are putting out volunteer leaves, but buds in the large are dormant.
Flowers in the bush were pretty deranged last summer, including very early jarrah, extended heavy marri and absolute no-show for blackbutt. Gumnuts on the marris are solid wieght, I’m actually surprised that there hasn’t been more boughs sloughing off- this winter has been very wet and wild so far.

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Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 9, 2024 9:19 pm

Worried New Zealand mum Amy Dixon starts petition to ban ‘pornographic’ G-strings at the Todd Energy Aquatic Centre her sons attend in New Plymouth
Daily Mail.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 9, 2024 9:50 pm

Ray Mickelberg – Western Australian Cats will know that name!
Ray Mickelberg battling Department of Veterans’ Affairs in court over military service compensationHannah CrossThe West Australian
Tue, 9 July 2024 7:43PM

One of the brothers accused of the notorious Perth Mint swindle has found himself in yet another court battle, this time with the Department of Veterans Affairs over compensation.
Ray Mickelberg and his brothers Peter and Brian were most notably convicted and then exonerated of robbing the Perth Mint of 68kg of gold bars to the tune of millions in the 1980s.
But before that, Ray served with the Special Air Service Regiment in the Vietnam War between 1969 and 1970.
Mr Mickelberg has been paid compensation under the Defence-­related Claims Act for several medical issues since retiring from the Defence Force, including severe peripheral polyneuropathy and colorectal cancer.

The Military Rehabilitation and Compensation Commission last year revoked those claims, saying a “mistake had been made” when determining Mr Mickelberg’s entitlements — namely whether he classified as an employee under the act.
It argued the AAT should throw out the case because “Mr Mickelberg’s applications have no reasonable prospects of success”.
But the tribunal disagreed, instead ruling it would not quash the case without it being “adduced properly and tested thoroughly at hearing”.
“Given the existence of this substantive issue, the Tribunal is not satisfied that this is a matter that should be disposed of on the papers and without the benefit of a substantive hearing,” senior member Andrew George said in his decision.
“Indeed, the Tribunal is also not satisfied on the material before it that Mr Mickelberg’s applications are so without merit that they have no reasonable prospects of success.
“Accordingly, the Tribunal refuses to dismiss the applications.”
The Mickelberg brothers were jailed for allegedly orchestrating the 1982 robbery of the Perth Mint, with Ray, Peter and Brian sentenced to 20, 16 and 12 years, respectively.

After multiple appeal attempts, Peter and Ray had their convictions quashed in 2004 after a police officer confessed to fabricating evidence in the case.
The pair received an apology from the State over their wrongful convictions in 2007 and more than $1.5 million in ex-gratia payments in 2008.

Black Ball
Black Ball
July 9, 2024 10:04 pm

Monty caught talking shit. Again.

Helen
Helen
July 9, 2024 10:13 pm

Agree re unusual weather and animals
Most of the wet season birds are still here
Normally gone by now, I keep saying something is not quite right
And we have had bugger all cold weather.
Now I know about the water vapour, it explains it. Thanks Bruce, early spring on the way and hopefully early rain break.

cohenite
July 9, 2024 10:29 pm

I spoke earlier of having talking points to counter alarmist bullshit; here is the latest from the great Richard Lindzen, Will Happer and Steve Koonin:

Scientific method counters climate alarmism | Financial Post

Indolent
Indolent
July 9, 2024 11:23 pm
Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
July 9, 2024 11:33 pm

I’m going to start sneaking “Hunga Tonga Summer” into conversation, see if it catches on…

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
July 9, 2024 11:51 pm

Classics …. others may disagree and that is totally fine. Each to their own when it comes to tunes.

Paul van Dyk ft. Plumb – Music Rescues Me (Official Video)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HepGqkSVnA

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
July 10, 2024 12:09 am

Gee whiz that was good.

Music takes you places.

—-

Paul van Dyk:

Paul van Dyk – Duality (Official Video)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wnzgR06or0

Oh come on
Oh come on
July 10, 2024 12:57 am

In short:Jillian Segal will be Australia’s special envoy to combat anti-Semitism.

The government will also shortly appoint an envoy on Islamophobia.

This is all really stupid. The last thing we need is more government-appointed anti-antiphobics.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
July 10, 2024 1:47 am

No f*cking way would eat Chinese food in China or here. I don’t trust them at all.

Filthy animals.

Serpentza:

China is now Using Nasty Poop Water to Cook Food!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92ZP33_mN9s

JC
JC
July 10, 2024 3:02 am

Pretty interesting stock market and what it’s telling us. Possibly!

US bank stock are on a tear, with JP Morgan ripping to a new all time high. I suspect this is telling us that the market believes the worst is over on the inflation front and the macro picture is looking good.

Banks are going to begin reporting quarterly results this week and this should be a tell for the macro layout.

And Tesla? New recent highs. One old gal fund manager, Kathy Cook, keeps plugging the stock and saying it will reach US$2,700 a share by 2029 on the back of self-driving taxis, AI and robotics. Huge cal, but don’t underestimate Musk, LOL.

I also think the market is more or less suggesting it believes Trump is going to win the election in 4 months time. I’m not that sure though and believe it’s a 50/50 bet, with the likelihood of serious cheating.

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Top Ender
Top Ender
July 10, 2024 3:32 am

Walked past some statue set pieces from Gladiator 2 the other day in Valetta, Malta. Larger than life gods etc in a square of the city.

Seems they might be gold plated. Apparantly the government paid them big bucks – about $60 million Aus – to make it there:

https://timesofmalta.com/article/gladiator-film-given-46-million-taxpayers-money.1050361

“Are you not entertained?”

Tom
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Beertruk
Beertruk
July 10, 2024 5:46 am

Oh dear…

Paywallion:

Inside Qartaba Homes’ unravelling interest-free sharia development scheme
ALEXI DEMETRIADI
10 hours ago

A western Sydney property development company that offered a halal-friendly “interest-free housing solution” has left hundreds of Muslim families facing ruin amid allegations that it mortgaged its own mosque in breach of sharia law.

The developer, Qartaba Homes, spruiked its interest-free solution as motivated by Islamic anti-interest sharia laws, but has since gone into administration.

The victims are mostly Muslim families from Pakistan who came to Australia to start a life and buy a home but have seen their lands possessed and sold at auction.

Qartaba and its sister company Hume Homes are run by Wajahat Rana, Khurram Jawaid and Kashif Aziz. Since 2012, Qartaba has sold lots off the plan in western Sydney, Melbourne’s eastern suburbs, and southern Queensland.

It promoted itself as Australia’s “interest-free halal answer” to the housing market’s “fluctuating interest rates”, primarily targeting Muslim families.

Qartaba would buy land before selling it to customers off the plan per lot.
Customers would pay a deposit for the land, before then paying monthly or quarterly develop­ment costs or land payments, which would be interest free.

Qartaba even named streets after Pakistan’s major cities, such as Lahore St and Karachi St.

Customers who bought land a decade ago, and paid development costs, are still waiting for ownership of the property. Some are waiting for construction to start.

Others have had their lots sold off, auctioned by creditors who possessed the land after Qartaba failed to pay its debt.

In many cases, Qartaba had mortgaged the land to secure those loans, without notifying customers, who – speaking on the condition of anonymity – alleged it was so that it could borrow and build more. Some have claimed incompetence.

Others have alleged criminality, and that emails and phone calls go unanswered to directors who don’t answer the door at their Riverstone office.

The directors are prominent in the community and were board members of the Islamic Forum for Australian Muslims – Mr Aziz was recently its vice-president – and at its 2023 convention Qartaba was a “silver sponsor”.

One person with knowledge of the situation said Qartaba’s rapid expansion had been akin to “Icarus flying too close to the sun”.

Qartaba’s Riverstone Masjid is going under the hammer, leaving the community furious at the mortgaging of the mosque, which is against sharia law. It was shut and possessed in April by a creditor, from whom Qartaba took out a $1.7m loan on the property, and put up for sale for $2m as a “timeless heritage homestead”, although its fate remains unclear.

The community was crowd-funding to buy it back and The Australian understands that the creditor remained in negotiations with a party who’d retain the property as a mosque, although there are multiple caveats on the property, which places a freeze on any new owner registering it.

Left in the dark
Qartaba and Hume Homes took out mortgages on large amounts of its land across the east coast, after it had been sold as lots to customers.

Creditors, which across the two companies total almost 30, have since come circling, repossessing the mortgaged land and auctioning it off to recover what’s owed. Customers have seen land they bought years prior sold off.

Others have attempted to put a ­caveat on the land, but that hasn’t been able to stop the sell-off.

They allege they’ve been left in the dark by the developer, were not told the land had been mortgaged, and had to find out for themselves that lots they’d bought were being sold.

Some of Qartaba’s land in Tarneit in Victoria has already been auctioned off by creditors, and at plots in Schofields, Austral, Riverstone and Werrington County in NSW, and other sites in Victoria and Queensland.

One lender, Balanced Securities Limited, run by former top lawyer David Geer, appointed an external administrator to Qartaba in April, which had not paid back in full the mortgage it took out to borrow across four blocks of land in Tarneit, which have since been put up for sale by the creditor.

In 2018, Qartaba took out a $34.6m loan from Balanced Securities, with an interest rate of up to 19.95 per cent.

According to the Australian Securities & Investments Commission, creditors have securities on all of the two companies’ present and future properties. In some of those agreements, the companies borrowed in the millions each time, with one mortgage signed in late 2023 including up to a 26 per cent interest rate. In multiple sites, creditors have possessed mortgaged lands as the two companies failed to pay what they borrowed.

In May and June, at least 30 plots of Qartaba’s NSW land were sold at auction, many of which customers had signed and paid contracts on years prior.

Last week, the mortgagee also exercised its power of sale of Qartaba’s two sites across 149 and 161 Riverstone Rd, NSW, which sold for $5.6m and $2.65m respectively.

At the same auction, Qartaba’s 30 Kelly St, Austral, sold for $14.7m while its land at 2 John Oxley Ave was for sale at $2.5m.

In Victoria, 137 lots at Qartaba’s 120 Bodycoats Rd are up for sale, with one customer who purchased in mid-2018 saying they feared they could lose both their land and likely the money they put into it.

‘Complete loss’
Hundreds of customers have enlisted legal representation to help salvage what’s left, and those who sought retrospective financial advice have been met with damning news. One solicitor called Qartaba’s contracts the “most unsatisfactory” they’d seen, calling the documents “extremely unfair” and that the negative implications fell heavily onto the customer.

An accountant told a customer investments with Qartaba were a “complete loss at this stage”, while crisis meetings have been held with state and federal MPs.

In June, NSW Fair Trading Commissioner Natasha Mann said the watchdog was “concerned” about the issues being raised about Qartaba and was “making inquiries”.

Dither and delay
Sister company Hume Homes sold its off-the-plan contracts at 71 and 121-123 Boundary Rd, Box Hill, in southwest Sydney, between 2014 and 2016. At 121-123, a single lot cost about $150,000 for the land, and settlement should have been end-2019, but the land remains a patch of shrubbery.

A development application was submitted to Hills Shire Council in August 2016, approved two years later in mid-2018, before Hume Homes lodged a construction certificate application in November 2020, which was approved in June 2023. Council blamed the delay on planning issues by Hume Homes and said the same problems held up the next phase of the planning process.

The development cost per lot for customers was about $110,000, which was divided into monthly or quarterly interest-free payments. Any additional cost sought should have been paid on settlement.

But citing an “unusual increase in cost of living” in 2023, Hume Homes asked each customer to pay an additional $25,000 for unspecified “development charges”.

‘Negative propaganda’
The company has claimed it’s a victim of “unethical behaviour and negative propaganda” originating from WhatsApp groups.

Membership of those groups, however, are in the hundreds. All are customers, who Qartaba has blamed for approaching councils directly, claiming it has resulted in investors pulling funds.

“This negative campaign has affected our business resulting in lesser interest by investors (and) many pulling their investments,” a Qartaba statement claimed.

“Civil contractors and consultants working on our projects get alarmed. Some have ceased work on our projects and a few have ­refused to bid for (new) projects.”

The directors failed to respond to questions from The Australian.

ALEXI DEMETRIADI
NSW POLITICAL REPORTER

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will
will
July 10, 2024 5:47 am

Dilbert

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Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
July 10, 2024 6:11 am

The Burlesque Broadcasting Corporation (aka BBC) has a scary Trump doll that they’ve been sticking large sharp needles in for years, to no effect. Today they’re waving the scary Trump doll around at various NATO members and supporters with the incantation “If Trump is elected he’ll change the terms of NATO because he hates it, precious!”
It’s not working. NATO is going from strength to strength, most members are coughing up the 2% to fund military, and new members are joining as fast as Turkey will allow. Finland and Sweden joined recently, in time for the 75th Anniversary. They all know that Trump just wants it stronger, and the only threats he has made are really to get them to carry their weight.

KevinM
KevinM
July 10, 2024 6:14 am

For bird lovers.

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Beertruk
Beertruk
July 10, 2024 6:29 am

And also in the Paywallion:

‘Second way to close the gap’: Jacinta Nampijinpa Price outlines her post-voice vision
Paige Taylor
8 hours ago

Jacinta Nampijinpa Price has laid out her vision for an “advancement movement” in Indigenous affairs, in which welfare-dependent Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people do the jobs in their communities currently done by fly-in, fly-out workers, and “meet the standards other Australians are expected to meet”.

The opposition Indigenous affairs spokeswoman also calls for an end to an implied acceptance of cultural payback, arranged marriage, apportioning tragedies and mishaps to sorcery and other practices that are “anathema to modern culture”. As her home base of Alice Springs enters its second curfew this year to curb youth violence, and the nation struggles to find a new policy path after the failure of the voice to parliament referendum, Senator Nampijinpa Price has declared there is a “second way” to close the gap.

“We know where the gap is – it is 20 per cent of the 3 per cent,” the Northern Territory senator writes in an essay on history commissioned for The Australian’s 60th Anniversary Collector’s Edition magazine, published on Saturday.

“It’s remote Indigenous Australians, many of whom do not have English as a first language. We already know that we can either fix or exacerbate that by school attendance.

“There should be no fly-in, fly-out workers in communities with Indigenous Australians on welfare.”

Senator Price – a Warlpiri-Celtic woman from Alice Springs – has set out her arguments for an “advancement movement” and her hope for “real reconciliation and integration”, as she works on the Indigenous affairs policy she and Peter Dutton will take to the next election.

She describes the advancement movement as “a second way”.

“We can continue along the separatist road that sees Indigenous Australians as irrevocably damaged by settlement and wants to keep Aboriginal culture stuck in time like a museum piece,” Senator Nampijinpa Price writes.

“Traditional culture is romanticised by those who do not live it, while reinvention of culture has become an industry in the name of reconciliation for the purpose of political influence.

“This (separatist) way forward leaves negative parts of Indigenous culture alone to grow and fester. Things like violent cultural payback, arranged marriage and apportioning tragedies and mishaps to sorcery, all of which are anathema to modern culture.

“This is a view that lowers standards for Indigenous Australians … This has been the strategy of decades of government agencies and academic activists, and yet they fail to draw the obvious connection between this approach and the failure to make much ground on Closing the Gap.”

Senator Nampijinpa Price has never supported a truth-telling commission as proposed by the Greens in parliament last week. Indigenous Australians Minister Linda Burney on Tuesday said the government would look at the nature of the proposal.

Sources have told The Australian that Labor will block any judicial model that would in any way replicate the Truth and Reconciliation hearings in South Africa. Instead, it has been consulting communities that prefer truth-telling projects potentially overseen by a central body. The Albanese government has left this work to states.

“My personal view is that it needs to be more of a community-led initiative that brings people together,” Ms Burney told ABC on Tuesday.

Senator Nampijinpa Price expresses her concern about truth-telling because, as she tells The Australian in a video interview to be published with her essay, it has been “driven by this notion that somehow modern non-Indigenous Australians have to compensate for what occurred to Aboriginal people in our country’s history”.

But she said Australia needed to understand the atrocities that occurred at and after colonisation, which included the murders of many of her Warlpiri family in the last sanctioned massacre at Coniston in 1928. “Seventy-five years after that we had a commemorative ceremony and invited those descendants of those who killed our family … (we told them) ‘we don’t blame you for what happened in our country’s history’.

“We recognised those were hard times but we are now together as Australians moving forward, and I think that is one of the greatest acts of reconciliation I’ve ever been part of.”

Senator Nampijinpa Price said guilt politics was like racism because “it denies the truth and it doesn’t help anybody progress”.

“We need a second way: the advancement movement. Under this movement, we are all Australians. We can learn and cherish our Indigenous culture while still meeting the same standards that every other Australian is expected to meet,” she writes in her essay.

“Our culture will be respected like never before when Indigenous Australians are making it thrive under their own steam and not as part of a welfare industry. That culture will become part of our national tapestry, rather than a separate story to be fought over.”

Senator Nampijinpa Price was the Coalition’s most potent weapon during the debate that culminated in a failed referendum for an Indigenous voice in October 2023. Her decision to join right-wing activist group Advance in February 23 was a landmark for the No campaign.

She said the nation needed a nuanced understanding of its own history, including what is great about the nation that emerged from it. She said few younger Australians were taught that King George instructed Governor Arthur Phillip to “live in amity and kindness” with Aboriginal people and to punish crimes against them. “Of course, the British settlers did not always live up to King George’s instructions, but that doesn’t change the fact the instructions were given,” she writes.

“Even … when barbaric crimes were committed against Aboriginal Australians, the civilising rule of law often played out. The infamous Myall Creek massacre in 1838 marks a dark and bloody moment in our history, when 28 Indigenous Australians were murdered by British settlers. But the activists have done a good job of playing down what happened after the massacre.

“Contemporary sources indicate that while there were pockets of excuse-making for the perpetrators, there was also clearly an abiding desire of the colony as a whole to do the right thing. The attorney-general, John Plunkett, prosecuted the perpetrators and then – when they were acquitted on a technicality – he prosecuted them again. Seven white men were thus found guilty and hanged.”

Read the essay in full on Saturday in the 60th Anniversary Collector’s Edition magazine.

2dogs
2dogs
July 10, 2024 7:03 am

There should be no fly-in, fly-out workers

You may be wondering how it is that mines get FIFO workers allowed even though the are otherwise subject to very strict environmental regulations about their operation. FIFO workers are the most environmentally damaging part of mining in Australia.

This is allowed because of action of the CFMEU on behalf of its members, who don’t want to live in the remote regions where they work, even though it would be better for the environment and the housing crisis if they did. Bad public policy solely as a result of a union.

Good luck to Jacinta if she is taking the CFMEU on.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
July 10, 2024 7:09 am

The Prime Minister said people of Jewish faith, like Palestinians and Muslims, overwhelmingly did not want the conflict in the Middle East to inspire discord in Australia.

It’s pretty bloody obvious that the Palestinians and Muslims DO want the conflict to inspire discord in Australia. Their actions are consistent with nothing else.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
July 10, 2024 7:26 am

Inside Qartaba Homes’ unravelling interest-free sharia development scheme

What’s the bet our taxpayer dollars will come to the rescue?

lotocoti
lotocoti
July 10, 2024 7:36 am

Standby for a push to increase the ABC’s budget.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
July 10, 2024 7:37 am

Tintarella di Luna @ 7:26 am
What’s the bet our taxpayer dollars will come to the rescue?

An accountant told a customer investments with Qartaba were a “complete loss at this stage”, while crisis meetings have been held with state and federal MPs.

Nice election you’ve got coming up, be a shame if it became a crisis…

KevinM
KevinM
July 10, 2024 7:45 am

I like, LOL.

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Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
July 10, 2024 7:46 am
Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
July 10, 2024 7:49 am

The Prime Minister said people of Jewish faith, like Palestinians and Muslims, overwhelmingly did not want the conflict in the Middle East to inspire discord in Australia.

I note the corollary, that Albanese apparently has detected that some in the Jewish faith apparently do ‘want the conflict in the Middle East to inspire discord in Australia’.

Personally I haven’t seen evidences of that and I can’t really imagine why they would – but, then, I don’t have an intelligence service advising me. Perhaps they’re mixed up with Gay Grampian Nasties.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
July 10, 2024 7:58 am

They have given Joe the shouty supplements again.

132andBush
132andBush
July 10, 2024 8:00 am

Rellies in Vic telling me some deciduous trees already budding and the wattles sprouting flowers, know Golden Wattle is not usual to late July and my memory has it as more August at full bloom. You guys about to have an early spring brewing there?

One of the everlasting memories my Mother had was of the wattle being in full bloom as she looked from her hospital room after giving birth to me.
That was around this time of year.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
July 10, 2024 8:04 am

Is that why you were named Bush?

shatterzzz
July 10, 2024 8:11 am

A feel-good story to start the day .. Vogue’s 102yrs old pin-up gal ……
?https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-13601133/Margot-Friedl-nder-German-Vogue-Holocuast.html

Cassie of Sydney
July 10, 2024 8:23 am

The Prime Minister said people of Jewish faith, like Palestinians and Muslims, overwhelmingly did not want the conflict in the Middle East to inspire discord in Australia.

Oh I see, that explains the screaming, screeching and shouting mob on Monday night 9 October, outside Sydney Town Hall and the Sydney Opera House, the cavalcades of leftist and Muslim scum driving through Jewish suburbs in Melbourne and Sydney, and the numerous other Jew hating incidents, including the weekly Jew hating festivals that parade through the streets of our major cities.

Albanese – a weasel whose sole talent is mouthing weasel words.

Segal has allowed herself to be Albanese’s ‘Jewish’ puppet A court Jew. Anyone with a modicum of knowledge about Jewish history and the role of court Jews knows full well how this will work out and where it will end.

Tom
Tom
July 10, 2024 8:23 am

I hope Jacinta Price will soon be put in charge if the government aboriginal industry on her way to the prime ministership as she writes and thinks so clearly:

Traditional culture is romanticised by those who do not live it, while reinvention of culture has become an industry in the name of reconciliation for the purpose of political influence.

?

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
July 10, 2024 8:31 am

Bush’s nativity scene.
”Wattle I name him.”
Lucky it’s not here or you’d be called Frosty.

Indolent
Indolent
July 10, 2024 8:38 am
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 10, 2024 8:43 am

A single cigarette can go for $45 in Gaza, and gangs are seeking to profitBy Miriam Berger and Hajar HarbJuly 9, 2024 — 2.43pm

Listen to this article
9 min
Jerusalem: A black market for cigarettes is booming in the besieged Gaza Strip, a window into the lawlessness and desperation in the enclave nine months into Israel’s war against Hamas.
The illicit cigarettes, one of Gaza’s last forms of currency, are hidden inside hollowed-out watermelons and boxes of nappies, smuggled on trucks through Israeli-controlled crossings and sold for as much as $45 apiece.
Gangs lie in wait along the anarchic road in southern Gaza that runs through military zones, ransacking trucks in search of cigarettes, humanitarian officials say. Once cigarettes reach the open market, Hamas authorities try to take a cut of the sales through fines and extortion, according to traders and civilians.
The black market is fuelling attacks on humanitarian trucks, hampering desperately needed aid deliveries as relief officials warn of famine.
Hamas regulated and at times banned tobacco during its 17 years in power but also profited by heavily taxing the product. Cigarettes were widely available in Gaza before the war, a small comfort for people living under Israeli siege and Hamas rule.
The political and security void in Gaza left by the war has allowed the underground trade to thrive, according to interviews with a dozen people involved or affected by cigarette smuggling in the territory. And Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s refusal to lay out a post-war plan has prolonged the chaos, frustrating his generals.

The Israeli military says it will allow daily pauses in its Gaza assault to allow more aid to get through. But the announcement appears to have caught the Netanyahu government off guard.

The United Nations has said it may need to cease aid operations in starvation-gripped Gaza if it cannot protect its workers, among other factors.
Georgios Petropoulos, the head of the UN humanitarian co-ordination office in Gaza, said criminal gangs had developed a “cartel-like operation”. Fuelled by the demand for cigarettes, he said, any truck could be a target.

In response, some private sector traders have hired armed guards to protect their convoys. Trucks carrying UN aid were a “softer target”, Petropoulos said, because as a policy, they did not hire private guards.
Israeli authorities say the looting is not a major hindrance to moving UN aid.
“There is looting in a specific area, but it’s not something that is new to us,” said Elad Goren, head of the civil department for COGAT, the Israeli agency that oversees the Palestinian territories. “The looting is happening by criminal families.”
Who profits from the illicit trade in cigarettes and other goods is often murky. But it comes at the expense of ordinary Gazans struggling to survive.
“There is security chaos,” said Yazan Ahmed, 34, who worked as a restaurant manager in Gaza City. Displaced in central Gaza, he now depends entirely on humanitarian food aid and can no longer afford cigarettes. “The strong are eating the weak.”

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
July 10, 2024 8:44 am

Barcaldine 18c my arse. My thermometer on the porch says 11c. It’s overcast and the frost has only just disappeared.
It feels like it’s gonna snow, FFS.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
July 10, 2024 8:49 am

Before I am busy for the day another one, Bali yet again, no insurance by the looks yet again. This guy could afford it so has no excuse.

I’m really curious and don’t take my disbelief at someone who is without empathy but what kind of fool donates to these self inflicted situations, really:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13610407/Bali-Belly-blood-clot-brain-stroke.html

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 10, 2024 8:52 am

Shame to see him go. He fought very hard against the climate fraud.

Fmr Oklahoma GOP Sen. James Inhofe Dies at 89 (9 Jul)

Indolent
Indolent
July 10, 2024 9:00 am
Indolent
Indolent
July 10, 2024 9:05 am
Rosie
Rosie
July 10, 2024 9:20 am

I was reading a couple of internet bits and pieces on that muslim home developer. Firstly from 2013 when the gen pop was complaining about muslim only housing estates.
Then social media forums from 2020 and 2022 when buyers were complaining about the developers failing to complete contracts etc.
So much for muslim ‘brotherhood’.
Not being able to borrow money at interest is a huge barrier to wealth creation in islam. The work arounds are a joke.
Probably a good thing.
They seem to be overrepresented in taxpayer scams, family day care, childcare centres, school funding, social security fraud and the ndis.
Let’s import some more.

Rosie
Rosie
July 10, 2024 9:31 am

Why do you call people’s homes on small blocks ‘human warehousing’ Calli?
All over the world people for thousands of years have chosen to live in close proximity to each other, it doesn’t make them some sort of lumpenproletariat who have less interesting and rewarding lives than those on a glorious acre somewhere else.

Zippster
Zippster
July 10, 2024 9:48 am
Roger
Roger
July 10, 2024 9:52 am

Good luck to Jacinta if she is taking the CFMEU on.

Malcolm Roberts succeeded:

CFMEU involved in deals linked to Australia’s $500m work theft case

Robert Gottliebsen The Australian 9 July, 2024

The likely size of Australia’s largest “wage theft” case has exploded from $100m to $500m as a result of a dramatic Fair Work Commission order that highlighted the anomaly. The latest Fair Work rulings, making the liability simpler to calculate, have sent shockwaves through the union movement because of the deep involvement of the CFMEU in the wage deals which led to the massive underpayment.

It’s a remarkable story and illustrates what can happen when unions and employers get too close together and the regulator does not intervene.

The underpayment might never have been uncovered but for the work of one miner and the federal parliament, Malcolm Roberts, and the Independent Workers Union.

The black coal award makes it illegal for coal mining companies to hire casuals — their workers must be employees. But, most coal companies contracted out their mining to five labour hire companies who undertook the work using casuals — but did not pay those casuals the 25 per cent casual entitlement.

The radical agreements were CFMEU-approved and often negotiated by the union. They were then presented to the Fair Work Commission for approval.

In almost every other situation in Australia, the Fair Work Commission would have thrown them out with little debate.

Instead, the Fair Work Commission approved the CFMEU-endorsed casual labour with no 25 per cent margin deals on the basis of a highly dubious legal technicality which has been ruled out for 2024-25.

Now [the FWC] has restored the casual entitlement for 2024-25, the next step is the back pay.

kneel
kneel
July 10, 2024 10:04 am

“I use stock instead of water.
Also after taking the gravy off the heat, I stir in a bit of butter.”

For mushroom gravy, rehydrate dried porcini mushrooms, chop porcini into small bits, and use the rehydration water for the gravy (essentially mushroom stock).

That also works really well for mushroom risotto.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 10, 2024 10:09 am

Sea level rise, what sea level rise?

Cannon-Brookes buys up 19ha beachfront site (Paywallian)

Annie Cannon-Brookes, the estranged wife of Atlassian co-founder Mike Cannon-Brookes, has bought real estate in Mission Beach as rumours swirl she is considering selling Dunk Island.

Worser and worser cyclones, what worserer cyclones?

Roger
Roger
July 10, 2024 10:12 am

…it doesn’t make them some sort of lumpenproletariat who have less interesting and rewarding lives than those on a glorious acre somewhere else.

No; but how many wouldn’t prefer an acre of land?

Or, better yet, “three acres and a cow.”

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 10, 2024 10:19 am

A western Sydney property development company that offered a halal-friendly “interest-free housing solution” has left hundreds of Muslim families facing ruin amid allegations that it mortgaged its own mosque in breach of sharia law.

It would racist of Luigi not to bail them out.

Eyrie
Eyrie
July 10, 2024 10:26 am

All over the world people for thousands of years have chosen to live in close proximity to each other

Usually a result of communications and transport difficulties. Technology largely overcomes these, hence the growth of suburbia, acreage etc.
Living further apart is also better for preventing spread of disease.
People aren’t that good, why would you want to live closer to them?

Roger
Roger
July 10, 2024 10:27 am

…amid allegations that it mortgaged its own mosque in breach of sharia law.

Sharia law now applies in Australia?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
July 10, 2024 10:38 am

It would racist of Luigi not to bail them out.

It would. In fact, worse, it would be Islamophobic.

The only issue remaining is how to avoid the People of the Interest Rate demanding an equal go at the trough.

Roger
Roger
July 10, 2024 10:50 am

French loony Leftists threaten to blow up the Eurozone:

France under debt pressure in ‘unprecedented situation,’ warns Moody’s

France’s sovereign debt rating is at risk as it faces an “unprecedented situation” over its public finances, the agency Moody’s has warned.

Europe’s second-largest economy remains in legislative deadlock after its election on Sunday, in which the hard-Left became the largest group but fell short of a majority.

The Telegraph (UK)

Over to you, Macron.

And have the riot police ready to deploy.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 10, 2024 10:56 am

Boomer news (the Hun):

A Victorian couple has been labelled “selfish” after revealing they’re spending tens of thousands of dollars of their children’s inheritance on expensive holidays.

Leanne and Leon Ryland have two sons who won’t see a cent of inheritance, with the couple having spent $170,000 on luxury holidays since they retired.

Not seeing a problem with this.

The United States are next on their agenda and several other “wonders of the world”, they told SBS Insight on Tuesday night.

They said they are part of a growing trend called “spend your kids’ inheritance (SKI)”, which diverts from the traditional expectation that money is passed down onto future generations.

“We’ve done all the right things by investing in property, boosting up our super, making sure that was healthy, going without a lot of things,” Ms Ryland said.

Still not seeing a problem. Here’s someone else who also doesn’t see a problem:

Their adult son Alex, who was in the TV audience, said he supported their actions.

“It’s their money. They’ve worked hard their entire life and invested well in order to get that money so I think they should be able to do whatever they’d like with it,” he said.

“They’ve raised me to be self-sufficient. I don’t need them for money.”

Well said, that man. Naturally, lazy greedy-gutsers had to have a say:

Many viewers were quick to brand the couple as “entitled” and “privileged”,

If you earn it, you are neither entitled nor privileged.

while some others supported the mindset.

“SBS Insight tonight is hilarious – boomer privilege at its best and still not conscious of it. So entitled,” one user wrote online.

“Boomers are evil … bragging about overseas holidays with no regard for the environment, spending all their money so their kids have no inheritance,” another wrote.

‘so their kids have no inheritance’. The absolute entitlement.

shatterzzz
July 10, 2024 10:59 am

Didn’t get a great deal of media coverage ..! ?

?One hundred and nine people were shot, 19 fatally, in gun violence across Chicago from midnight Wednesday to midnight Monday during the extended Fourth of July holiday weekend, police said.

shatterzzz
July 10, 2024 11:02 am

Oh dear..! .. some “sad” news .. LOL!

As Israel stepped up its offensive, Hamas warned recently advanced ceasefire talks could be “back to square one”.

Roger
Roger
July 10, 2024 11:04 am

Sir Tony Blair has sounded the alarm: Sir Keir Starmer will have no choice but to slap the public with a tax hike of £53 billion, according to a report from the Tony Blair Institute today. Labour’s tax-and-spend tendencies are laid bare, with forecasts predicting taxes must rise by 1.9% of GDP by the end of the Parliament just to keep debt in check.

Guido Fawkes 9 July 2024

Tax & spend? If the tax raid merely keeps debt in check, cuts to services will have to follow. As reported recently, the spending is related to immigration, which is now a net drain on the UK budget, with each migrant, on average, receiving more in government subsidies and benefits over the period of her residency than she will pay in taxes or create in wealth by starting a business.

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Cassie of Sydney
July 10, 2024 11:10 am

I note that last night Monty the Moron came on here to state that…

Farage didn’t even turn up for his first day at Westminster, LOL.

The Moron was quickly rebutted with proof that Farage did turn up to his first day at Westminster. In further news, I am happy to report that Farage not only turned up for his first day at Westminster, he has also delivered his first speech in the Commons and that speech has already caused a stir.

LOL.

We note Monty’s disappearing act. The garage calls.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
July 10, 2024 11:12 am

Paul Kelly has an interesting opinion piece in the Unlinkable Oz, arguing that Albanese has pulled on his Big Boy Pants and doesn’t need to worry about forming a minority government in coalition with the Greens.

The Kelly Theory goes thus:

The Greens have apparently outed themselves over recent months as opportunistic poseurs, nut jobs, and bomb throwers, entirely unfit for government. (Technical Note: Obviously, you don’t get to be Editor at Large on the Australian for nothing.)

Apparently “steel has entered the calculations of many Labor ministers who lived through the Gillard era” – when Labor became a sex toy for Bob Brown.

‘Rod of Iron’ Albanese’s “entire history reveals he would never succumb by compromising his prime ministership to the Greens.“ Never a backward or compromised step for this Handsome Boy.

Better yet:

“Albanese doesn’t need a governing alliance with the Greens to get a commission from the Governor-General.

Only one thing matters – getting a majority of the House of Representatives on a vote of confidence. That would happen because neither the Greens nor most independents would want Dutton as prime minister.”

After that, it’s all plain sailing for Minority Albanese. Apparently.

All he has to do is deal with Indies, (remaining) Teals, (potential) Muslim pop ups, and Greens on individual issues – and Winner!!!

I sense that this is actually likely to be exactly where Labor will end up going.
If so, unlike Paul Kelly, I fear Australia is going to experience an entirely new level of political, economic, and social chaos.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 10, 2024 11:14 am

French loony Leftists threaten to blow up the Eurozone

Totally predictable.

France ‘on the brink of financial meltdown’ as ‘rich to flee country over 90 percent tax’ (9 Jul)

A top banking expert has warned the “deadlock” facing France could push the nation into financial crisis – while others have warned French high earners will flee the country.

France is on the verge of a “financial crisis” and consequent economic decline after the surprise success of a hard left coalition in this weekend’s elections, the country’s outgoing finance minister Bruno Le Maire has warned.

Speaking on the political situation, UK-based banking expert Bob Lyddon has told Express.co.uk the result signals an end to Emmanuel Macron’s policy of “controlling debt and public spending”, warning the inevitable “deadlock” is no better than a victory for Marine Le Pen’s far-right National Rally.

In a possible hint at future chaos, riot police clashed with left-wing demonstrators in Paris on Sunday evening.

The hastily assembled Popular Front (NFP) – spearheaded by left-wingers including former Presidential candidate Jean-Luc Melenchon – is pledging to increase public spending by £125 billion if they successfully form a government.

They have also proposed a 90 percent tax on incomes over £340,000 a year – but Mr Le Maire suggests such a move could cost more than £250 billion with France already saddled with a budget defunct of 5.5 percent.

It’ll be a laffer oops laugh a minute. My spelling is terrible. Will the last Frog millionaire leaving from Charles de Gaulle Airport please turn out the lights?

Roger
Roger
July 10, 2024 11:23 am

Only one thing matters – getting a majority of the House of Representatives on a vote of confidence.

No strings attached!

Eyrie
Eyrie
July 10, 2024 11:29 am

Alleged old Boer saying ” A good neighbour is one whose chimney smoke you can see, on a clear day, with the aid of a good telescope”

shatterzzz
July 10, 2024 11:30 am

A western Sydney property development company that offered a halal-friendly “interest-free housing solution” has left hundreds of Muslim families facing ruin amid allegations that it mortgaged its own mosque in breach of sharia law.

Odds on Luigi will step into the breach .. Not that long ago that taxpayers bailed out a “private’ funeral insurance mob in the NT for no other reason than the majority of “customers” were 251s …..

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 10, 2024 11:32 am

Can I just make a prediction re: the French.

It wasn’t real socialism/ communism.
That hasn’t been tried yet.

Alamak!
Alamak!
July 10, 2024 11:36 am

Only one thing matters – getting a majority of the House of Representatives on a vote of confidence. That would happen because neither the Greens nor most independents would want Dutton as prime minister.”

Albo has not shown any great skills in political calculations or reading the room so far. Given that “Politics is Addition” it should be a bit worrying for Labor that the (current) leader has no solid skills in math.

Roger
Roger
July 10, 2024 11:41 am

Albo has not shown any great skills in political calculations or reading the room so far.

There’s one room experience has taught him how to read and that’s the Caucus. He has Left & Right sides stitched up with Plibersek on the outer.

No sign of fraying as yet. If anything, the Payman debacle has strengthened his position internally.

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Arky
July 10, 2024 11:53 am

Ukraine has stepped up drone strikes into Russia in response to the hospital attack.
While understandable, I think that is a mistake.
The more you piff explosives at your neighbour, the more likely you are to end up with a hospital incident of your own.
Plus it’s the same mistake Hitler made after the RAF bombed Berlin in 1940.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 10, 2024 11:59 am

Young Labor are revolting.

Young Labor revolting against government’s treatment of Fatima Payman (Sky News, 9 Jul)

Young Labor branches are revolting against the Albanese government’s treatment of Senator Fatima Payman.

Ms Payman gained notoriety within the Labor party for breaking party convention and crossing the floor on a Greens motion to recognise Palestinian Statehood.

Anthony Albanese’s foundational faction – the New South Wales Young Labor Left – will host Senator Payman as a special guest next week.

Have fun keeping your excitable kiddies in line Albo.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
July 10, 2024 12:12 pm

That clearly looks like petrified wood. Ultimately, it’s up to the individual to decide.

It certainly makes you think.

—–

Hangman1128:

Biblical Tree Remains 7-8-2024

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfO36yVsusc

Bill From The Bush
Bill From The Bush
July 10, 2024 12:34 pm

I read this at another site.

I wonder how the poor sniffer dog is feeling and whether they have counselling available for the canine.

alwaysright
alwaysright
July 10, 2024 12:34 pm

regarding the French:

Students of history will tell me what happens when the gulf between left and right becomes too great.

Kneel
Kneel
July 10, 2024 12:43 pm

“ROME — Pope Francis warned Sunday democracy is in “crisis” around the world, likely with an eye to a rise in right-wing parties across Italy, Austria, Argentina, Netherlands, and Germany.”

Let’s see – one party (the left) goes too far from the centre (ie, what most people want) and so those people vote in people who promise to get policies closer to what the people want.
Seems to me democracy is working just fine – people are getting what they vote for, are they not?
I did not notice anyone claiming that “democracy was in crisis” when the far left starting taking control of the “deep state” with the “long march through the institutions”.
Odd, innit? When the unelected force unpopular things on people everything is fine and dandy, but when the voters want some of that crap undone and vote accordingly, democracy is at risk?

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
July 10, 2024 12:45 pm

Steve Inman:

Canada: An Arsonist’s Plan Backfires
https://rumble.com/v568s4y-canada-an-arsonists-plan-backfires.html

Rabz
July 10, 2024 12:49 pm

left hundreds of moozley families facing ruin

Hello, Ozzie taxpayers!

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
July 10, 2024 12:49 pm

Seeing Joe address NATO, obviously juiced up compared to normal:
What can I say but “I want what he’s having”.

Rabz
July 10, 2024 12:52 pm

unlike Paul Kelly, I fear Australia is going to experience an entirely new level of political, economic, and social chaos

He ain’t known as Paul “is wrong, again” Kelly for no good reason(s).

Salvatore - Iron Publican
July 10, 2024 12:53 pm

Young Labor are revolting.

Factcheck: True

bons
bons
July 10, 2024 1:00 pm

The great grands are here at the moment. Nice kids and well informed.

Apparently there is no more oil and gas so all cars have to be electric and electricity will come from the wind and be free.

Kindy and first year. Fkn teachers!

On the positive side, the genius woman down the street loaned me her two puppies. Not a peep has been heard from the kids, just intense cuddling.

Miltonf
Miltonf
July 10, 2024 1:13 pm

They were saying the oil was going to run out when I was at school

Morsie
Morsie
July 10, 2024 1:17 pm

Great comment on Instapundit to the effect that Trump was fined twice as much as Boeing for accurately valuing his estate

m0nty
m0nty
July 10, 2024 1:20 pm

Hey JC, can you explain why Trump keeps obsessing about Hannibal Lecter, like today when he called him a “lovely man”? Is this a New York thing?

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 10, 2024 1:27 pm

Genuine question, how does someone like Pope Francis get elected when it was already known what he was like? Are the Cardinals responsible and if so why is more not being said about them coz when Frankie is gone they will just elect another the same or has he spooked them?

duncanm
duncanm
July 10, 2024 1:29 pm

peak oil – nah..

m0nty
m0nty
July 10, 2024 1:43 pm

I see that when the five Reform MPs did bother to show up at Westminster yesterday, they were so late that some of them had to stand, and Farage could only get a seat in the back row.

The LOLs from Farage’s blatherings are going to be delicious.

Black Ball
Black Ball
July 10, 2024 1:49 pm

Good news:

One of the world’s top law firms has implemented new standards for job applicants from America’s top law schools following antisemitic protests that swept universities across the world in the aftermath of the October 7 terrorist attack on Israel.

Sullivan & Cromwell, which is headquartered on New York’s Wall Street and has offices in Sydney and Melbourne, states that individuals who participated in university protests should be held responsible for their actions, as well as the actions of those around them.

The company told the New York Times that the firm will do background checks to scrutinise American applicants’ involvement with pro-Palestinian groups and campus protests, looking for examples of antisemitism.

The firm will screen students who apply from top law schools, including Harvard University, Yale College, Columbia University, and New York University, each of which had hundreds of students participate in anti-Israel protests.

Applicants who have publicly used the phrase, “From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free” will be disqualified, Joseph Shenker, a partner in the firm told The New York Times.

Sullivan & Cromwell is the first Wall Street firm to publicly discuss such a rule, although four other top firms are considering a similar policy and some law firms in the US have rescinded job offers for students who participated in campus protests.

Last November, Sullivan & Cromwell joined hundreds of other firms in encouraging American law school deans to curb campus antisemitism.

Me likey very much

Oh come on
Oh come on
July 10, 2024 1:50 pm

How is m0nty coping with the conga-line of Dem operatives dumping Biden? Is he still doing his ‘nothing to see here’ act?

KevinM
KevinM
July 10, 2024 1:53 pm

I can’t recall anything about Kristofferson, I have heard about Johnny Cash of course, who hadn’t?
Anyhow here is a tidbit, he was apparently a janitor before he became famous.
———————–

Here’s an interesting read: Johnny Cash Once Demanded that Kris Kristofferson, who was a janitor at the time for Columbia Records, be allowed to sit in on one of his recording sessions.
And it all started with Kristofferson being banned from Johnny’s recording sessions…Kris in his own words.
Kristofferson: “I almost got fired one time because a couple of songwriters crashed the session, and they were trying to pitch him a gospel album.
And for some reason the woman who was the secretary to the producer blamed me for letting them in there and tried to get me fired.
And so the next night my boss came down and said, “I don’t think you should go to John’s session tonight,” which was heartbreaking for me because I lived for those recording sessions….But I understood it.”
Johnny was not happy to hear that Kris wouldn’t be sitting in on the recording session.
Kristofferson: “I hid down in the vault of the recording studio and was erasing tapes down there or doing some kind of busy work, and John appeared down there in the basement.
He said, “I understand you’re not coming to the session.”
I said “No, I’ve got a lot of work to do down here, I can’t.
He said “Well I just wanted to tell you I’m not gonna record until you come up there.
So, I had to go up there and sit on the floor.
Kristofferson: “And here I was, the janitor, and I’m sitting on the floor and this woman who tried to get me fired was watching me and the whole session. It was the most uncomfortable I’ve ever been in my life.
But I thought it was the measure of the man. He always stood up for the underdog…. And that’s something I’ve tried to live up to. He’s been a good example.”
Kristofferson said this whole experience was an example of who Johnny Cash really was.”

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Arky
July 10, 2024 1:58 pm

After progressives have destroyed every bit of value in a thing, their last act is to magnanimously hand the hollowed out, decaying husk to minorities.
They did it with Hollywood, they’re doing it with universities.
If Kamala becomes US President, that’s your sign that either the office has had all value wrung out of it, or the country has.

Cassie of Sydney
July 10, 2024 2:10 pm

Note how the resident Nazi refuses to admit when he’s wrong, he just doubles down on his wrongness and idiocy?

If he was not a Nazi I’d feel sorry for him…..but I can’t feel sorry for Nazis, they’re repulsive.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 10, 2024 2:14 pm

No love for Waffleworth in today’s Paywallian.

Rosie
Rosie
July 10, 2024 2:21 pm

I’d like a similar list of restaurants I should visit in Melbourne.
https://x.com/jerlevi/status/1810493716601487438?t=DFn-UTVyRs2FdGCTTQur6w&s=19

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
July 10, 2024 2:45 pm

I see that when the five Reform MPs did bother to show up at Westminster yesterday, they were so late that some of them had to stand, and Farage could only get a seat in the back row.

Tuesday was pageantry day at Westminster – elect the Speaker and polite(ish) speeches by the party leaders. About 50 newbie Labour MP’s were unseated and milled around like sheep.

The MP’s spend the rest of the week being sworn in before sitting starts next week.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 10, 2024 2:47 pm

KD at 10:56 on evil boomers …

Well said, that man. Naturally, lazy greedy-gutsers had to have a say:

Many viewers were quick to brand the couple as “entitled” and “privileged”,

Allow me to paraphrase:-
“Oh shit! I hope Mum’s not watching this!”

eric hinton
eric hinton
July 10, 2024 2:54 pm

I can’t recall anything about Kristofferson.

How Me and Bobbie McGee got wrote. This might be from interview on U tube -which I can’t find – where he said a story that he’d landed his helicopter in Johnny Cash’s front yard to pitch a song might have been embroidered.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
July 10, 2024 3:14 pm

left hundreds of moozley families facing ruin.

That is not a bad thing. Rorters getting rorted is a beautiful thing.

Hello, Ozzie taxpayers!

That is a bad thing.

The Sleaze will see this as a perfect opportunity to shore up support in Labor seats in western Sydney to cover cnuts like Burke with cash handouts.

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
July 10, 2024 3:15 pm

Here you go Chris.

Is anyone else worried about Malcolm Turnbull?
Janet Albrechtsen

Malcolm Turnbull said on Sunday “there’s no point pulling my punches”. Oh, but there is a point. For Turnbull’s own sake, he should give it a rest. Say no next time The Project calls. Say no when the executive producer of the 7.30 program calls, be strong, say no when Radio National’s Patricia Karvelas says: “How about it, mate?”

Maybe no one at the ABC invited Turnbull on their program last week. It was especially sad to see a former prime minister sitting on a panel on The Project. Doesn’t the poor bugger have better things to do on a Sunday night?

When Turnbull called his former colleague and now Opposition Leader Peter Dutton a “thug” on The Project, the panel laughed. So did the audience.

Can’t Turnbull see people aren’t so much laughing with him, more at him? Turnbull has become our own Joe Biden – minus the medical senility and public office. 

Like Biden, the more Turnbull talks, the more obvious it becomes that he should, for his own sake, stop.

Like Biden, there appears to be no one close to the former prime minister who can see how he is destroying his own reputation, while he indulges delusions of grandeur about having an impact on the careers of people he regards as his enemies.

In Canberra, Turnbull was known for having young sycophants in his office, and older ones with little judgment too. But now, why don’t those who love and care for Turnbull give him advice he needs to hear? For his sake. And maybe for theirs.
The former prime minister should be happy: he is cashed up, he has a lovely family, grandchildren. Surely no one in their right mind, only someone still brooding about failure, would keep harping about his political enemies with such venom almost six years after he left office?

The problem for Turnbull is that each time he airs his bile for his former colleagues in the Liberal Party, the smaller he becomes.

He was prime minister for just under three years. He was booted out in August 2018. He has now spent twice as long as a former PM openly sledging his former Liberal colleagues, as he did in office. Who can remember what he did in office anymore?

His latest appearance on the weekend is a reminder that Turnbull is the worst former prime minister the country has had in modern times. He’s no Malcolm Fraser, who was also known to be a critic of the Liberal Party. Unlike Fraser, Turnbull’s self-proclaimed morality judgments turn into personal abuse.
When Turnbull called Dutton a “thug” it was not clever, not constructive. 

He’s fallen into that trap of thinking people he disagrees with are morally inferior to him. The left does it all the time. It’s woefully lazy. If their political opponents descended to the same low-rent personal attacks, they’d scream blue murder.
Some say Turnbull is the Liberal version of Kevin Rudd. That’s not fair either. Not fair to Rudd. 

To be sure, there are similarities on the narcissistic personality scale. But Rudd has never appeared as vindictive as Turnbull, for so long. But then Rudd may have parked his need for revenge in the hope of some nice appointments. Sending him to DC was a good way to shut the man up – for a time.

Turnbull has some similarities with Donald Trump. With ego-driven determination, they both used a political party as a conduit to power. Donors gave money to the Liberal Party in the belief Turnbull would be a decent prime minister and a decent former PM. He’s failed them twice. No wonder many think the bloke is a rat.

Both considered themselves bigger than their party, and political norms. As prime minister, Turnbull fought with then attorney-general Christian Porter as to whether to drag the governor-general into deciding whether Dutton should be disqualified under the Constitution given an upcoming leadership spill. Porter opposed Turnbull’s plan. Turnbull wasn’t happy.

When Warren Entsch added his name to a list of 43 signatories calling for a second leadership ballot against Turnbull in August 2018, he added three words under his name – “for Brendan Nelson”. It was a reminder of Turnbull’s wretched and disloyal treatment of Nelson during his short stint as leader.

If Turnbull is working his way through that list, determined to sledge those who dared to question his leadership, then first place as party rat is his.

That said, the last thing the Libs should do is expel Turnbull. That would allow him to wear the mantle of a martyr. Few deserve that less than Turnbull. The more critical question is for Turnbull, a man with such a high regard for self-proclaimed moral standing: Why isn’t he doing the right thing and handing in his Liberal Party membership?

What has Turnbull done for the Liberal Party since he left parliament? Is the former Liberal PM helping Roanne Knox, the new Liberal candidate for his old seat of Wentworth? Or is he helping the teal in that seat, Allegra Spender?

Malcolm Turnbull during the lead-in to the voice referendum.
Turnbull’s post-politics behaviour is now his lasting legacy. He’s at home on the left, adopting its same histrionics. When Dutton became leader, then Western Australian premier Mark McGowan called him an “extremist”, a man who doesn’t “fit with modern Australia”.

“I actually don’t think he’s that smart,” McGowan said.
Tanya Plibersek attacked Dutton for looking like Voldemort, the evil lord from Harry Potter who scares kids and wizards. It was tacky. At least Plibersek apologised.

Can anyone imagine Turnbull apologising for his mean-spirited outbursts? Showing grace, not hurling four-letter words, wins you respect. Especially if you’re no longer in politics. Can anyone imagine John Howard or Julia Gillard appearing on The Project years after losing office – or indeed ever – and calling one of their past internal enemies a “thug”?

Unlike Biden, what Turnbull does won’t impact the country. But it will impact how history remembers him. A man who spends a good part of his public life after being prime minister on X, on the ABC and on The Project, railing against his enemies, cementing his real legacy as the country’s most disgruntled former leader, still unable to come to terms with the inconsequentiality of his prime ministership.

Turnbull has become a pantomime of political and personal hatred, and he can’t see it. What a shame someone close to him can’t help the man move on.

Vicki
Vicki
July 10, 2024 3:26 pm

KD at 10:56 on evil boomers …

I probably have said this before – but we have thought long & hard about our bequest. Our only child & her spouse have done well ( following our advice until they didn’t – & splurged on a more spectacular property after they had paid off their loan) & will inherit our main domicile, which will finance their retirement. All our investments, including the farm, will go to the grandchildren – & will set them up for their lifetime. They all know the allocation of assets.

We have traveled virtually every place we want to go – both in Oz & OS. I think we now live pretty frugally – at least compared with our circle of friends. We have both worked hard during our youth and middle age (& still do!) and have earned every dollar and every item we have accumulated.

We do not feel any guilt, nor should we. What we acquired at times came with some sacrifice. I stayed at home until my child was of school age, and almost certainly prejudiced a tertiary teaching career. I would do it again in an instant. My only regret is that I did not care for my daughter’s children full-time. I believe they definitely suffered being in almost full day care from infancy.

These are the choices we make.

Gabor
Gabor
July 10, 2024 3:36 pm

Since our sojourn to the red center a few months back now, I kept an eye on what’s happening in Alice Spring via this link.

Things are getting worse and I feel sorry for the residents.
Is there a solution?

JC
JC
July 10, 2024 3:48 pm

m0nty

July 10, 2024 1:20 pm

Hey JC, can you explain why Trump keeps obsessing about Hannibal Lecter, like today when he called him a “lovely man”? Is this a New York thing?

Dunno wtf you’re babbling about, Fatboy. Go on a diet and STFU.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
July 10, 2024 3:49 pm

Janet A gives me the horn when she dons the hob nailed boots and goes for the “World Kicking In The Cnut Record” about Turnbull.

Beautiful words…

Some say Turnbull is the Liberal version of Kevin Rudd. That’s not fair either. Not fair to Rudd.

And this gets even better………….

Unlike Biden, what Turnbull does won’t impact the country. But it will impact how history remembers him. A man who spends a good part of his public life after being prime minister on X, on the ABC and on The Project, railing against his enemies, cementing his real legacy as the country’s most disgruntled former leader, still unable to come to terms with the inconsequentiality of his prime ministership.
Turnbull has become a pantomime of political and personal hatred, and he can’t see it. What a shame someone close to him can’t help the man move on.

The only thing I disagree with Janet A on is the expulsion of Turnbull from the Liberal party. She worries it would make him a martyr.

Who gives a fcuk. Get rid of the Cnut.

Thank you Mak Siccar @03:15pm for posting the article.

Kneel
Kneel
July 10, 2024 3:50 pm

“So having a degenerate, mentally collapsing figurehead doesn’t matter as long as the right factions of faceless puppeteers remain in charge of the USA.”

Who was it who said, prior to the 2020 election, that all they needed was Biden’s “corporeal form” and nothing else mattered?

They’re between a rock and a hard place.

Polling for JRB is tanking – massively. But the Kamel is worse! And how can they kick out the DEI “black woman” and install a white man? Can’t be done.

They could go for Whitmer, but would anyone other then inner city Chicagoans vote for her? Polling says “No”.

Who would want to take the poison pill of “replacing” Biden, knowing that you have no control over policy and even if you did, have no time to fix what really matters to voters – better to wait for 2028, right?

And even so, can and would the media cover for you? They covered up Biden’s decline, then acted shocked after the debate. They may do another 180 and back him again, but maybe not. And no matter who they back, will Joey (Jolene) Average believe them and “Vote blue no matter who?” Black (males at least) increasingly are not. Hispanics are increasingly not. Oh dear…

The most amusing thing would be if DJT won the popular vote and forced CA to cast electoral college votes for him. And latest polling shows he is already close to getting that. Pass the popcorn…

Kneel
Kneel
July 10, 2024 3:55 pm

m0nty

July 10, 2024 1:20 pm

Hey JC, can you explain why Trump keeps obsessing about Hannibal Lecter, like today when he called him a “lovely man”? Is this a New York thing?

Actually, it’s probably just a sarcasm thing – like when they asked him if he’d be a dictator and he said “Only on day one”.
Normal people understand, the media pretend such jokes are not jokes and “he’s coming for US!”

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 10, 2024 4:22 pm

I’m amused that lefties have gone from Trump is literally worse than Hitler…

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To Trump is literally Hannibal Lector…

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Seriously guys why settle for a lesser evil?

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Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 10, 2024 4:30 pm

I’m going to have to make a donation to Dover’s flower fund, after eating up so much of his bandwidth like that.

Rabz
July 10, 2024 4:33 pm

Young labore spawned Albansleazey. He was despised by everyone apparently.

Anyone remember that touching li’l schlockumentary, “Rats in the Ranks“?

Albansleazey makes a cameo (off camera) appearance, on his his way to “fixing” a problem involving some squabbling labore plenipotentiaries.

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Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 10, 2024 4:43 pm

Andrew Bolt: Bruce Pascoe’s begging email should embarrass Melbourne UniFake Aboriginal Bruce Pascoe wants more donations to save his Black Duck Foods business, in a move that should deeply embarrass the gullible Melbourne University.

From the Hun.

billie
billie
July 10, 2024 4:49 pm

Many viewers were quick to brand the couple as “entitled” and “privileged”

That couple should be called by their true titles, elders.

Some respect for elders would be appropriate, for people who have contributed, worked hard, raised families and are solid and reliable citizens.

The very definition of elder, wise and successful people.

BTW – Let’s stop calling anyone who is on Centrelink benefits, an elder as the actual term for them is moocher, yes some exceptions but everyone I have seen called an elder of 251 variety is an entitled and privileged moocher..

*I saw a story recently of some old aborigine who wanted his free house fixed up, “like a white person’s house” he said, because he felt entitled to it for no other reason than he has become used to entitlement ..

and envy, don’t ever forget that’s the primary driver of the left.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 10, 2024 4:55 pm

https://michaelsmithnews.typepad.com/.a/6a0177444b0c2e970d02dad0c90cb3200d-800wi
“Calls to violence, BDS, Hamas ties: New UK MPs take hardline anti-Israel stances,” by Mathilda Heller, Jerusalem Post, July 7, 2024:

Several of the new MPs elected in Thursday’s UK elections have made anti-Israel comments, called for BDS, denied October 7, and have ties to Hamas and other terrorist organizations, various UK media reports have noted over the weekend.

Five pro-Palestinian MPs succeeded in ousting other candidates from their seats, effectively becoming the sixth largest party, the Telegraph said on Saturday.

The Jerusalem Post reported on election day that Shockat Adam, an optometrist by trade and independent Muslim candidate, accepted his Leicester South seat on behalf of the “people of Gaza” while holding a keffiyeh.

However, an exclusive report by Jewish News on Saturday revealed that Adam’s brother, Ismail Patel, is the founder of the hardline Islamist group Friends of Al Aqsa and has previously visited Hamas leaders in Gaza.

According to the Meir Amit Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center, Ismail Patel, like his brother, a British citizen of Pakistani descent, has called in the past for the demise of the state of Israel, with comments such as, “The Zionist edifice… will soon fall. It’s a matter of time now.”

He has also expressed support for Hamas by stating that it was not a terrorist organization and saluted Hamas for “standing up” to Israel.

Ismail Patel also met with Ismail Haniyeh, according to the Center, and during the second intifada, celebrated that the “Zionist nightmare is at its end.”

Terrorist ties

His brother, the new MP of Leicester South, wrote on his website that he condemns “weaponising terms like antisemitism, a heinous prejudice in itself, to smear any objector of the actions of the Israeli military” and that he is in opposition to “Zionist organizations.”

In Birmingham, Khalid Mahmood, England’s first Muslim MP, who has held the seat since 2001, lost to the barrister Ayoub Khan, a former Liberal Democrat councilor who left his former party over Gaza.

Shortly after October 7, Khan posted several clips on TikTok questioning Israeli reports of Hamas’s actions, such as the beheading of babies and widespread rapes, saying he had yet to see evidence, the Jewish Chronicle reported.

The liberal democrats investigated Khan, and said he agreed to receive antisemitism training, which Khan himself denied, claiming that there “was no need.”

The situation in Blackburn was similar. Adnan Hussain, on hearing the news of his election as Member of Parliament, said, “We will raise our voice for Gaza! We will continue to fight, until death, inshallah!”…

billie
billie
July 10, 2024 5:00 pm

Turnbull
Who can remember what he did in office anymore?

Before he was in office, but the Republican movement can thank him for burying that cause for a generation.

In 1999 we all saw very quickly that Turnbull was setting himself up to be the first President of Australia, and John Howard then spiked the referendum.

One of the few things John Howard did that I am thankful for.

*In office, he backstabbed everyone because he was envious of anyone else getting attention. That’s my memory of his political career, just a prick.

Vicki
Vicki
July 10, 2024 5:06 pm

Just received a communication from our NSW Rural Fire Service. Bureaucracy writ large! Am I the only one who wonders how we can protect ourselves from rural fires with this degree of bureaucracy? It reminds me of an incident during one of the past blazes in our valley. One of our local farmers reminded a meeting attended by one of the top brass of the RFS that “you should get your questions in….these guys clock off at 5pm”.

Fire Permits and TOBAN/TOBEX modules now live in Guardian
Good afternoon all, 

I am pleased to announce that the first of four staged releases of the Guardian Phase 2 project is now live. This milestone introduces significant enhancements to our operational capabilities, starting with new modules to support the digitisation of Fire Permits, Burn Notifications, Total Fire Bans (TOBANs), Fire Danger Ratings (FDRs) and Total Fire Ban Exemptions (TOBEX).  

Importantly, this release includes the introduction of a public portal for members of the public to apply for Fire Permits, notify of planned burns, apply for TOBAN exemptions and notify of TOBEX works. The new portal simplifies the process for both the public and for our members, enabling public users to create an account to apply, notify, view and track their interactions. 

Thank you to all members who have been a part of our Fire Permits Working Group, alongside stakeholders from the RFSA and NSW Farmers Association. Your input has been essential to the development of the Fire Permits and Burn Notification modules in Guardian Phase 2. A training package is in development to ensure that members of the public, Fire Permit Officers and all members can understand and navigate the new system. 

How to access the new Guardian modules? 

Public facing portal: You can access the public facing portal via the RFS website. Simply select the ‘Apply. Notify. Enquire.’ tile on the homepage or click here.
 
Member portal: To view or process applications, notifications or exemptions, or to acknowledge or action TOBANs and FDRs, you can access the member portal using eMembership or via One RFS. Simply navigate to the ‘Portals’ section for either Staff or Volunteers and select ‘Guardian’ or click here.

What has changed? 

TOBAN/TOBEX and FDR 
With a streamlined digital process and real-time integrations with the Bureau of Meteorology (BoM), the TOBAN, TOBEX and FDR modules will bring enhanced speed and accuracy to the RFS. Benefits include: 
• quicker and more accurate review, declaration and communication of TOBANs 
• greater visibility and assurance that TOBAN Exemptions are recognised and actioned promptly 
• a public portal for members of the public to submit TOBEX Applications and notify of works. 
• integration with the Fire Permits process, enabling the RFS to automatically suspend relevant permits during a TOBAN 
Fire Permits and Burn Notifications 
Fire Permits can now be applied for and issued directly through Guardian, allowing Fire Permit Officers to manage Fire Permit Applications online with greater oversight and ease. This includes a portal for the public to apply for and track permits, as well as to notify of burns online. Benefits include: 
• reduced administrative burden by automating the previously manual notification processes 
• a centralised system that allows for a map view of all Fire Permits and Burn Notifications across the state 
• enhanced monitoring, actioning and communication for RFS members and the public 
Guardian Phase 2 release schedule 

Keep an eye out for information and training on the remaining project releases, which will digitise the following RFS processes: 
• Release 2: Fire Trails, Annual Works Plans, Bush Fire Management Committees (BFMC), Activity Management 
• Release 3: Grants Management 
• Release 4: Development Applications 
Expected outages in Guardian platform 

There will be scheduled overnight outages for the Guardian system as part of Releases 2, 3 and 4. The outages have been scheduled to occur overnight to minimise disruption to our business-as-usual activities. The first outage is expected on Wednesday 10 July from 8.00pm to 10.30pm. Additional known dates and times can be found on the Guardian Phase 2 One RFS project page. 

Support and information 

Further information on all releases, as well as support resources, can be found on the Guardian Phase 2 One RFS project page. This includes training videos, step-by-step Quick Reference Guides and Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs). 

For support or system-related inquiries, please contact the RFS ICT Service Desk on 1800 00 5123, by email at [email protected] or online through the RFSNow Portal

For questions relating to how these modules fit in with your current business, you can reach out to the relevant Business owners: 
• Fire Permits and Burn Notifications – Laura Wythes, Manager Emergency Management 
• TOBANs and FDRs – Craig Geddes, Manager Operational Response 
• TOBEX – [email protected] 
Regards, 

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 10, 2024 5:13 pm

Australia’s last two WWII coast watchers die, aged 100 and 101By Vice Admiral Peter Jones (Retd)July 10, 2024 — 1.10pm

Listen to this article
7 min
The last two World War II coast watchers, Jim Burrowes (101) and Ron “Dixie” Lee (100) passed away in Melbourne on Sunday and Monday, respectively.
The courageous deeds of the legendary and secretive WWII coast watchers represent one of the most illustrious chapters in Australia’s military history.
Despite their losses, the coast watchers’ contribution to reporting on Japanese shipping and air movements had a real strategic impact. Their finest hour was in the Guadalcanal campaign, where they reported on incoming waves of enemy aircraft, rescued the future president John F Kennedy, and launched lethal guerilla raids on the Japanese with the assistance of fearless Solomon Islanders. Their actions led Admiral ‘Bull’ Halsey to remark: “The coast watchers saved Guadalcanal, and Guadalcanal saved the South Pacific.”

Rest in peace, gentlemen, you won’t ever be forgotten

damon
damon
July 10, 2024 5:16 pm

“Trump will pick someone who does not have a high profile”

I think he should pick Vivek. He’s persuasive, has the courage. of his convictions, and would probably make a good future President.

cohenite
July 10, 2024 5:21 pm

Made a mistake with too many links

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cohenite
July 10, 2024 5:22 pm

m0nty
 July 10, 2024 1:20 pm

Hey JC, can you explain why Trump keeps obsessing about Hannibal Lecter, like today when he called him a “lovely man”? Is this a New York thing?

As reported in the scum media:

Former President Donald Trump reportedly called Hannibal Lecter, the fictional cannibal from the book and adapted film The Silence of the Lambs, a “nice guy” this week, prompting questions from some on social media.

On Thursday, CNN’s Jim Acosta said that he had received reports from the network’s Capitol Hill correspondent Melanie Zanona, that Trump spoke about Hannibal Lecter during a meeting with Republican lawmakers in Washington, D.C.

“Andddd now we’re back to jokes, per members,” Zanona wrote in a post on X, formerly Twitter. “Said Trump: ‘Hannibal lector…..nice guy….he even had a friend over for dinner.’”

You fuking moron dickless. There are 2 ways to look at this:

1 reportedly called; by the same msm which has lied continually about Trump for the last 8 years.

2 The left have absolutely no sense or humour or irony: .”nice guy….he even had a friend over for dinner.’”

You humourless POS dickless. This is the defining characteristic of the left; no sense of humour because they take themselves so seriously. Trump is one of the great stand up comedians who rips the guts out of the left scum and they hate it.

Black Ball
Black Ball
July 10, 2024 5:41 pm

Allow me please kind reader to bring to you what Zulu touched on earlier by Andrew Bolt:

Fake Aboriginal Bruce Pascoe sent followers a begging email two weeks ago that should deeply embarrass the gullible Melbourne University.

Pascoe wants more donations to save his Black Duck Foods business, which sells Aboriginal food grown on his tiny farm in Victoria’s far east.

“To be honest with you Black Duck Foods is currently living hand to mouth,” Pascoe writes.

“We need your help to keep going … Together we can re-centre Indigenous knowledges and agricultural practices at Australia’s heart to secure a strong, resilient and sustainable future.”

Let me say here that I don’t hate Pascoe, author the prize-winning bestseller Dark Emu, which falsely claims Aboriginals were originally farmers, raising crops and living in “houses” in “towns” of 1000 people.

He seems well-meaning, and I hope he keeps his farm. If you like him, please donate.

No, my fascination here is really with the many people of the Left – and institutions such as the ABC – who have insisted Pascoe really is Aboriginal and his history isn’t as fake, either.

It’s so telling that they so desperately want to believe what’s so clearly fake, just because it suits their anti-West and anti-colonial ideology. Never mind all the evidence that I and others have published, showing Pascoe’s genealogy is 100 per cent British, and his “history” has been debunked.

Most frightening is that even Melbourne University fell for it, and made Pascoe not just a professor, but one of its very exclusive Enterprise Professors. It even claimed he was a member of no fewer than three Aboriginal tribes, despite two of those tribes calling Pascoe a fake.

What’s more, it made him an Enterprise Professor of Indigenous Agriculture, despite overwhelming evidence that Aboriginals weren’t agriculturalists but hunter gatherers. It institutionalised Pascoe’s fake history, as if hunter gatherers were shamefully primitive.

Pascoe’s appointment gave him yet another platform for his quackery. Now he was preaching that we should grow and eat more Aboriginal food, like the flour made from native grasses from his farm, rather than the settlers’ wheat and beef.

“Why do we eat wheat? Because our grandfather did,” he scoffed.

But our Western agriculture “is highly destructive of soil health” and its “economies are largely mythical”.

Oops. Pascoe has now had to confront a tough truth: It’s “Aboriginal agriculture” that has mythical economies. The real reason we grow wheat rather than native seeds for food is that we’d starve if we didn’t.

See, Pascoe just can’t make Aboriginal food pay. The yields of native grasses are just far too low.

A Sydney University study last year worked out that average wheat yields in northwest NSW ranged from 3 to 4 tonnes per hectare, but native grasses produced just 0.1 and 0.5 tonnes a hectare.

I wonder if Pascoe teaches that at Melbourne University.

You can’t feed millions of people with “Aboriginal crops” that produce so little energy. Nor can you sell it at prices most people can afford, as Pascoe has shown

He’s had little to sell in his online shop for many months, but once was selling a kilogram of his kangaroo and spear grass flour for $360, and dancing grass flour for $220. In contrast, Coles sells a kilogram of wheat flour for just $1.40.

The poor, including poor Aborigines, could never afford the Aboriginal food Pascoe grows. It’s only Western ways that lets them eat well – another benefit of the colonialism we’re taught is so evil.

That’s why Pascoe’s business is in strife. Tony Thomas, a finance writer and columnist at Quadrant Online, checked with the Charities Commission and found Black Duck Foods raised $2.2 million from donations and taxpayer-funded grants up to June 2023, but spent most of it on Pascoe’s farm.

That included wages for its three to five Aboriginal workers, a plump $149,000 rent to Pascoe for use of his farm and $61,000 in fees to accountants and lawyers.

After all that, the Charities Commission records say sales from Black Duck Foods were just $38,000.

Enough. Melbourne University should finally show it still had academic standards.

Four years ago it announced it was hiring this “Indigenous author” to “build knowledge and understanding of Indigenous agriculture”.

But Pascoe is not “Indigenous” and can’t make this so-called “Indigenous agriculture” pay, even with handouts, mass publicity and admiring videos sent to schools by the ABC, in a project titled: “Bruce Pascoe: Aboriginal Agriculture, Technology and Ingenuity:

Shouldn’t Melbourne University now face facts and stand for truth, reason and Western civilisation, the great gift to humanity, and sack Pascoe?

Start a GoFundMe campaign. Or just go away.
I don’t mind him having a crack at running a business. But don’t look for donations to keep afloat.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
July 10, 2024 5:53 pm

I visited Vietnam last 20 years ago. I found this odd as I remember Muslims being the untrustworthy ones then. Literally told by more than one local who spoke English that muslims weren’t trustworthy and police keep a careful eye on them.

Wow how times change:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13618611/Aussie-family-kicked-shop-Vietnam-Jewish.html

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 10, 2024 5:55 pm

Guess where Albo is on the ladder…

These Are The 10 Highest-Paid World Leaders In 2024 (10 Jul)

A man of the people he is!

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
July 10, 2024 5:55 pm

I don’t mind him having a crack at running a business. But don’t look for donations to keep afloat.

Con artists like Pascoe are very useful to society; by penalising the credulous by taking their cash and exposing them to ridicule. It says a lot about the present state of universities that one should take him seriously.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
July 10, 2024 6:08 pm

Mildly interesting challenge which is not interesting to watch.

Three time slackline world champion Jaan Roose is attempting to set a new world record for the longest slackline. To do this he will walk across a 3.6 kilometre line suspended above the Messina Straits between mainland Italy and Sicily, exposed to the heat and changeable winds at the heights of over 200 metres above the sea

He’s currently 1.6km in with 2km to go.

Top Ender
Top Ender
July 10, 2024 6:25 pm

Fake Aboriginal Bruce Pascoe sent followers a begging email two weeks ago that should deeply embarrass the gullible Melbourne University.

Pascoe wants more donations to save his Black Duck Foods business, which sells Aboriginal food grown on his tiny farm in Victoria’s far east.

“To be honest with you Black Duck Foods is currently living hand to mouth,” Pascoe writes.

“We need your help to keep going … Together we can re-centre Indigenous knowledges and agricultural practices at Australia’s heart to secure a strong, resilient and sustainable future.”

Let me say here that I don’t hate Pascoe, author the prize-winning bestseller Dark Emu, which falsely claims Aboriginals were originally farmers, raising crops and living in “houses” in “towns” of 1000 people.

He seems well-meaning, and I hope he keeps his farm. If you like him, please donate.

No, my fascination here is really with the many people of the Left – and institutions such as the ABC – who have insisted Pascoe really is Aboriginal and his history isn’t as fake, either.

It’s so telling that they so desperately want to believe what’s so clearly fake, just because it suits their anti-West and anti-colonial ideology. Never mind all the evidence that I and others have published, showing Pascoe’s genealogy is 100 per cent British, and his “history” has been debunked.

Most frightening is that even Melbourne University fell for it, and made Pascoe not just a professor, but one of its very exclusive Enterprise Professors. It even claimed he was a member of no fewer than three Aboriginal tribes, despite two of those tribes calling Pascoe a fake.

What’s more, it made him an Enterprise Professor of Indigenous Agriculture, despite overwhelming evidence that Aboriginals weren’t agriculturalists but hunter gatherers. It institutionalised Pascoe’s fake history, as if hunter gatherers were shamefully primitive.

Pascoe’s appointment gave him yet another platform for his quackery. Now he was preaching that we should grow and eat more Aboriginal food, like the flour made from native grasses from his farm, rather than the settlers’ wheat and beef.

“Why do we eat wheat? Because our grandfather did,” he scoffed.

But our Western agriculture “is highly destructive of soil health” and its “economies are largely mythical”.

Oops. Pascoe has now had to confront a tough truth: It’s “Aboriginal agriculture” that has mythical economies. The real reason we grow wheat rather than native seeds for food is that we’d starve if we didn’t.

See, Pascoe just can’t make Aboriginal food pay. The yields of native grasses are just far too low.

A Sydney University study last year worked out that average wheat yields in northwest NSW ranged from 3 to 4 tonnes per hectare, but native grasses produced just 0.1 and 0.5 tonnes a hectare.

I wonder if Pascoe teaches that at Melbourne University.

You can’t feed millions of people with “Aboriginal crops” that produce so little energy. Nor can you sell it at prices most people can afford, as Pascoe has shown.

He’s had little to sell in his online shop for many months, but once was selling a kilogram of his kangaroo and spear grass flour for $360, and dancing grass flour for $220. In contrast, Coles sells a kilogram of wheat flour for just $1.40.

The poor, including poor Aborigines, could never afford the Aboriginal food Pascoe grows. It’s only Western ways that lets them eat well – another benefit of the colonialism we’re taught is so evil.

That’s why Pascoe’s business is in strife. Tony Thomas, a finance writer and columnist at Quadrant Online, checked with the Charities Commission and found Black Duck Foods raised $2.2 million from donations and taxpayer-funded grants up to June 2023, but spent most of it on Pascoe’s farm.

That included wages for its three to five Aboriginal workers, a plump $149,000 rent to Pascoe for use of his farm and $61,000 in fees to accountants and lawyers.

After all that, the Charities Commission records say sales from Black Duck Foods were just $38,000.

Enough. Melbourne University should finally show it still had academic standards.

Four years ago it announced it was hiring this “Indigenous author” to “build knowledge and understanding of Indigenous agriculture”.

But Pascoe is not “Indigenous” and can’t make this so-called “Indigenous agriculture” pay, even with handouts, mass publicity and admiring videos sent to schools by the ABC, in a project titled: “Bruce Pascoe: Aboriginal Agriculture, Technology and Ingenuity:

Shouldn’t Melbourne University now face facts and stand for truth, reason and Western civilisation, the great gift to humanity, and sack Pascoe?

Herald Sun, with comments open

Top Ender
Top Ender
July 10, 2024 6:27 pm

Snap BB – I should have scrolled back!

will
will
July 10, 2024 6:30 pm

JC  July 10, 2024 3:48 pm

Dunno wtf you’re babbling about, Fatboy. Go on a diet and STFU.

I guess the steak nights between JC and Monty were a long time ago

Top Ender
Top Ender
July 10, 2024 6:34 pm

Meanwhile also in mental Melbourne:

The Yarra City Council will look to traditional Aboriginal land management practices in order to bring the municipality back from “the precipice of climate and ecological collapse” and “decolonise” the urban landscape.

It plans to increase the number of people travelling the streets of Richmond, Collingwood and Fitzroy on bikes and scooters by 20 per cent by 2027 and by 40 per cent by 2032.

The 81-page Yarra City Council Climate Emergency Plan 2024-2030 — which was passed and carried unanimously at Tuesday night’s Yarra council meeting — calls on residents to “act on the climate emergency” by moving towards a vegetarian diet, using active and public transport, “consuming resources consciously”, and shifting their banking and superannuation away from fossil fuel investments.

Herald-Sun

Indolent
Indolent
July 10, 2024 6:35 pm

@robinmonotti

CDC Study Reveals Covid Vaccines Linked to 111,795% Increase in Brain Clots:

“Covid-19 mRNA injections have been linked to a staggering 111,795% increase in brain clots in the United States post-vaccine rollout, according to data sourced from Centers For Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS).

Cerebral thromboembolism, acknowledged as a potential side effect of Covid-19 vaccines, is a condition in which a blood clot (thrombus) forms in a blood vessel, travels through the bloodstream, and becomes lodged in an artery that supplies blood to the brain.

This obstruction can restrict blood flow to areas of the brain, potentially causing a stroke.

In their study, researchers analyzed data from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the US Food and Drug Administration’s (FDA) Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) spanning from January 1, 1990, to December 31, 2023. They compared the instances of cerebral thromboembolism reported following Covid-19 vaccinations to those reported after flu shots and other vaccines.

The pre-print study found the risk of cerebral thromboembolism after covid-19 mRNA injections is significantly higher compared to flu vaccines and all other vaccines.  While there were 52 reports of cerebral thromboembolism associated with influenza vaccines, there were 5,137 cases linked to Covid-19 injections.”

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 10, 2024 6:36 pm

https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2024/07/good-on-em.html

Don’t you feel so sorry for the poor little snowflakes? Naaah, me neither.

Salvatore - Iron Publican
July 10, 2024 6:38 pm

He’s currently 1.6km in with 2km to go.

Now 2.2km with 1.4km to go. Thanks, fascinating watch.

Roger
Roger
July 10, 2024 6:44 pm

When Turnbull called his former colleague and now Opposition Leader Peter Dutton a “thug” on The Project, the panel laughed. So did the audience.

Can’t Turnbull see people aren’t so much laughing with him, more at him?

It’s The Project, Janet; I wouldn’t be so sure.

(Not that I’m a great fan of Dutton.)

Salvatore - Iron Publican
July 10, 2024 7:00 pm

He’s 50 metres short of the world record. This is riveting stuff.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
July 10, 2024 7:03 pm

Jaan Roose has passed the world record for slacklining!

Roger
Roger
July 10, 2024 7:23 pm

The Yarra City Council will look to traditional Aboriginal land management practices in order to bring the municipality back from “the precipice of climate and ecological collapse” and “decolonise” the urban landscape.

Have at it and report back to us.

LOL.

Rosie
Rosie
July 10, 2024 7:34 pm

Turnbull parrots Mr Teal and gets community noted.
Best news of the day.
https://x.com/GrayConnolly/status/1810933494564147479?t=d6m03s36M4icqTXtFTLywg&s=19

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
July 10, 2024 7:36 pm

The Yarra City Council will look to traditional Aboriginal land management practices in order to bring the municipality back from “the precipice of climate and ecological collapse” and “decolonise” the urban landscape.

Decolonising the urban landscape. Does that mean tearing down all the buildings and replacing them with humpies?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 10, 2024 7:40 pm

Decolonising the urban landscape

The Melbourne CBD is already bereft of businesses and associated commercial traffic, yet full of Lord of the Flies cast members preying on the few genuine visitors anywhere near it.

It’s already decolonised.

Miltonf
Miltonf
July 10, 2024 7:40 pm

They really are evil, insane and stupid. Yes are they going knock down all the buildings?

Rosie
Rosie
July 10, 2024 7:41 pm
Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
July 10, 2024 7:42 pm

He fell! Only had about 100m to go! D’oh

Black Ball
Black Ball
July 10, 2024 7:50 pm

Devil’s Vine malbec I chose to drink with the steak. Very strong aroma. Looking forward to this dinner.

132andBush
132andBush
July 10, 2024 7:51 pm

The Yarra City Council will look to traditional Aboriginal land management practices in order to bring the municipality back from “the precipice of climate and ecological collapse” and “decolonise” the urban landscape.

Can’t think of a better place for a bit of traditional fire stick farming.

132andBush
132andBush
July 10, 2024 7:55 pm

In fact a quick,”traditional burn” through that joint would result in a marked reduction in anti semitism.
Call it “hazard reduction”.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
July 10, 2024 7:57 pm

Bruce that Top Ten Shiny Bums chart is an eye-opener- I wonder how the GDP:pollie costs would stack up?
ie, Singapore- PM gets paid at $1:$291000 of GDP
NZ $1:$858 000
Aus $1:$4 295 000
So, in a real way, Luxon costs kiwis five times as much as what Albanese fleeces us for, and the Singaporean top job is pretty lush money.
…I actually have a sneaking suspicion I went to school with Lawrence Wong

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
July 10, 2024 8:04 pm

Turnbull

Who can remember what he did in office anymore?

Me. Me, ask me!

Jobson Grothe.

Excusing Australian actors in Islamic terrorism as: “not Hitler’s Germany, Tojo’s Japan or Stalin’s Russia“.

Gonski.

Julie Bishop.

Failure to do anything with the Royal Commission into union corruption.

Perhaps not quite the worst Australian PM evah (that title is currently being heroically challenged by Handsome Boy).

But a really, really solid, the ‘Punters Get You’ solid, destruction of a massive mandate to improve Australia from the RGR debacle.

A 100% category-forming, ‘Self-enchanted Knobhead’ exemplar of how formally smart persons can also be catastrophically stupid.

Now, a hateful POS.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 10, 2024 8:07 pm

Rosie
 July 10, 2024 7:41 pm

Dan enjoying retirement.

I saw them referred to as “Cath and Crim” on soshul meeja today.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 10, 2024 8:26 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbqGWTxwZEA

Discussion upthread of Kris Kristofersen.

For anyone who ever woke up Sunday morning, with a hangover that would have killed a stone statue, and wondering who the lady was on the other side of the bed, this one’s for you.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
July 10, 2024 8:29 pm

London son has apparently torn a ligament playing touch on Hyde Park. A (private, vs 6-12 month NHS wait) £400 MRI tells us his treatment options are:

Going through the NHS process – with the objective of potentially world-leading treatment within two years. Or, possibly not at all, because young and waiting lists and non-critical injury.

Private treatment in the UK. Current preliminary estimate £12,000 to £30,000.

Flying to Australia + private treatment estimated at around $3,000.

The moral of this is: Do not get non-critically sick, or injured in Britain.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 10, 2024 8:39 pm

Religious group charged with death of eight-year-old diabetic Elizabeth Struhs face trialMackenzie Scott
22 minutes ago.
Updated 3 minutes ago
.
Eight-year-old diabetic Elizabeth Struhs spent days vomiting, drifting in and out of consciousness and slurring her words as her parents allegedly refused to give her lifesaving insulin because of their devout Christian beliefs, a court has heard.
Mother Kerrie Elizabeth Struhs, 49, and her husband, Jason Richard Struhs, 52 – both members of a small, tightly-knit Christian group known as “The Saints” – didn’t believe in modern medicine. Just three weeks before the young girl suffered a prolonged death in January 2022, Ms Struhs had been released from prison and returned to the family home where seven of their eight children lived in wealthy suburban Rangeville, Toowoomba.
She had served five months for failing to provide the necessities of life after refusing to take Elizabeth to hospital when the first symptoms of her type-1 diabetes appeared.
It was only after the then six-year-old girl was unconscious that her father had taken her to hospital, and she was saved.
But 2½-years later, and despite Mr Struhs signing documents with health authorities that he knew the insulin medication was essential for Elizabeth, the parents instead turned to prayer.
Police allege they stopped ­giving her insulin – and she died four days later.
Now the couple, along with 12 other defendants – including their eldest son Zachary Struhs, 21, and 62-year-old religious group leader Brendan Luke Stevens – are facing trial in Brisbane’s Supreme Court over the girl’s death.
The entire group entered no pleas, which were accepted as not guilty during the indictment to varying charges of murder and manslaughter at the start of the trial on Wednesday afternoon.
All 14 are representing themselves in a judge-only trial before Martin Burns.
The courtroom on the Supreme Court’s sixth level was specially modified to accommodate the group of defendants and several corrective officers. The dock, where those on trial would typically sit, was removed and replaced with two long tables where they sit together.
Mr Stevens, 62, and Mr Struhs, 52, have each been charged with murder. Ms Struhs and Zachary are among 10 others facing ­manslaughter charges for failing to intervene.
These include the group leader’s wife, Loretta Mary Stevens, 67, and their children, Acacia Naree Stevens, 31, Alexander Francis Stevens, 26, Andrea Louise Stevens, 34, Camellia Claire Stevens, 28, Sebastian James Stevens, 23, and Therese Maria Stevens, 37. Other group members charged were Lachlan Stuart and Samantha Emily Schoenfisch, aged 34 and 26, and Keita Courtney Martin, 22.
Lachlan Stuart Schoenfisch and Samantha Emily Crouch have been charged with manslaughter.
The court heard that for much of the 17 years Ms Struhs had followed Mr Stevens’s teachings, her husband had resisted prescribing to the group’s beliefs, which included the fundamental tenet that the Lord would heal.
Crown prosecutor Caroline Marco said Mr Struhs became baptised into the congregation only four months prior to Elizabeth’s death because he was “not coping” looking after their young children, aged three to 16, and arguing with his son Zachary while his wife was in prison.

Sickening.

Delta A
Delta A
July 10, 2024 8:45 pm

Under Learn Something New heading:

Trypophobia refers to disgust or fear of a pattern of holes. Seeing clusters of holes in foods, flowers and everyday items like sponges can trigger feelings of revulsion. Trypophobia is gaining recognition as an anxiety problem that can affect quality of life.

What next?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 10, 2024 8:57 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=544Avsvy-eg

Rudyard Kipling – “The Last of the Light Brigade.”

Gabor
Gabor
July 10, 2024 9:45 pm

Delta A
July 10, 2024 8:45 pm

   Trypophobia refers to disgust or fear of a pattern of holes.

What next?

Just you wait, they will come up with something, that’s all Universities are for now.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
July 10, 2024 10:03 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha @ 8:39 pm

Eight-year-old diabetic Elizabeth Struhs spent days vomiting, drifting in and out of consciousness and slurring her words as her parents allegedly refused to give her lifesaving insulin because of their devout Christian beliefs, a court has heard.

…Mr Struhs signing documents with health authorities that he knew the insulin medication was essential for Elizabeth, the parents instead turned to prayer.

This takes me back 50+ years.

A 16-year old kid I knew from school, a trade apprentice at the pit I worked at, was accidentally crushed by a mining machine.

He had pelvic injuries that could have been treated – but surgery required blood transfusion. Sadly, his family were Jehovah’s Witnesses – so he spent a week dying in Ashington hospital, presumably in distress and pain, while surrounded by family and friends desperately trying to help him with Healing Prayer.

At that point, I lost my religious belief.

Louis Litt
Louis Litt
July 10, 2024 10:05 pm

Ok on netflex there is a show about a sperm super spreader. Blonde haired athletic guy that looks like female couples inseminate themselves with his sperm.

they are taking him to court due to incest.

so what’s his crime.

these same sex couples are not built for children.

all are females, one looks like he’s had his testes removed.

whats the crime?

Gabor
Gabor
July 10, 2024 10:24 pm

Dr Faustus
July 10, 2024 8:29 pm

London son has apparently torn a ligament playing touch on Hyde Park. A (private, vs 6-12 month NHS wait) £400 MRI tells us his treatment options are:

I mentioned the plight of my cousin a few weeks ago, who moved back to the UK 5 years ago and desperate to come back but her permanent residency visa has expired
.
She travels for private medical treatment to Czechia (Czech Republic), first class treatment at a reasonable price.

On a side note some good news for her, I posted the same on a different forum and it looks like help is on the way in both selling her house and migration agents promising a visa at 99.99% guarantee but $$$$.

There are only 3 privately owned houses on the estate with not only willing but anxious sellers and the council is negotiating.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
July 10, 2024 11:19 pm

I have feelings of disgust for the series of *rseholes I see in the world… do I get a grant?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 10, 2024 11:24 pm

All this chatter about the Waffeworth and no one has mentioned his signature achievement.
Currently bogged less than a 10th of the way up a mountain and at mor than 10 times the original budget.

Come in down Florence the snowy mountain butt plug.

John H.
John H.
July 10, 2024 11:52 pm

Indolent

 July 8, 2024 8:38 am

I’m reading a historical/mystery series set in early 19th century during the Napoleonic wars and the similarities are just amazing. The corruption seems endemic.

@robinmonotti

It’s very simple once you are ready to see it. Unfortunately, too many people are not ready.

In yet another mystery of human cognition earlier tonight I recalled a book from the 90’s by a Canadian author that had some interesting things to say about culture. Eventually the memory coalesced so I identified the book, found a review, and learned he anticipated trends present in the 1990s which were damaging society. He was apolitical, he did not argue for secret cabals and agendas but rather that the trends had in a sense a life of their own. He was not a fatalist but he knew it would be damaging. Many of the comments lamented that his warnings are still not heeded.

It isn’t simple, it isn’t obvious. For example, countries have been going to war ever since bows and arrows were made, there must have been a Woodworkers Industrial Complex.

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