Open Thread – Weekend 14 Sept 2024


At the Tea Table, Konstantin Korovin, 1888

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Top Ender
Top Ender
September 15, 2024 5:09 pm

Andrew Bolt: Brendan Kerin wants us to believe the Welcome to Country is “250,000 years old”

Brendan Kerin’s Welcome to Country at Saturday’s AFL semi-final showed the “reconciliation” movement is turning us into a nation of liars.

Kerin, from Sydney’s Metropolitan Local Aboriginal Land Council, declared “a Welcome to Country is not a ceremony we’ve invented to cater for white people – it’s a ceremony we’ve been doing for 250,000 years.”

What? Kerin wants us to believe Aboriginals were here at least 50,000 years before our human subspecies – homo sapiens sapiens – actually evolved.

Kerin wants us to believe Aboriginals did this Welcome to Country in all that time when it was actually invented in this form in 1976 by television presenter Ernie Dingo and musician Richard Walley.

Or course, there were once other ways tribes welcomed strangers, but describing them is unwelcome today.

Dingo, himself with Aboriginal ancestors, said one involved elders taking “the sweat from under their arms and [rubbing] down the side of your shoulders so any spirits around can smell the perspiration or the odour of the local, and say, ‘He’s right, leave him alone’”.

Another was more horrific. Adolphus Peter Elkin, a professor of anthropology, detailed it in his classic The Australian Aborigines (sic): How to Understand Them, the final edition of which was published in 1964. He said tribes made peace or welcomed each other by sending over their women for sex.

Robert Hughes in his best-selling history The Fatal Shore, recorded the same: “As a mark of hospitality, wives were lent to visitors … If a woman showed the least reluctance … she would be furiously beaten or even speared.”

But such facts now seem unkind. We prefer sweet lies.

It’s why Melbourne University hired a fake Aboriginal, Bruce Pascoe, as an Enterprise Professor in Indigenous Agriculture, after Pascoe claimed in his fake history, Dark Emu, Aboriginals had actually been farmers in “towns” of 1000 people.

Who dares tell the truth? Prime Minister Anthony Albanese promotes “the stolen generations”, when our courts still haven’t identified a single child stolen from their parents just because they were Aboriginal.

He also claims Aboriginals were here for “65,000 years”, based on just one outlier study – debunked by two more – which claimed to have found a 65,000-year-old hearth.

But who cares? The science actually says 40,000 years. Albanese says 65,000. Pascoe says 100,000. Now Kerin says 250,000. The bigger the untruth, the bigger your heart in a country where truth is dead and sentiment is all.

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Roger
Roger
September 15, 2024 5:17 pm

“Pope Francis is ambiguous and imprecise, but not a heretic so y’all stop spouting this nonsense on social media.”

A priest pronouncing on the orthodoxy of the pope.

I thought it was supposed to work the other way ’round?

😀

cohenite
September 15, 2024 5:32 pm

But who cares? The science actually says 40,000 years. 

It’s a good article of Bolt’s pointing out the grotesque crap this fat bearded bastard and other shits like him sprout in the 3rd nation grifter industry; BUT FFS the first folks came to this shithole 47000 years ago. This is set in bones:

(PDF) Humans rather than climate the primary cause of Pleistocene megafaunal extinction in Australia (researchgate.net)

Environmental histories that span the last full glacial cycle and are representative of regional change in Australia are scarce, hampering assessment of environmental change preceding and concurrent with human dispersal on the continent ca. 47,000 years ago. Here we present a continuous 150,000-year record offshore south-western Australia and identify the timing of two critical late Pleistocene events: wide-scale ecosystem change and regional megafaunal population collapse. We establish that substantial changes in vegetation and fire regime occurred ?70,000 years ago under a climate much drier than today. We record high levels of the dung fungus Sporormiella, a proxy for herbivore biomass, from 150,000 to 45,000 years ago, then a marked decline indicating megafaunal population collapse, from 45,000 to 43,100 years ago, placing the extinctions within 4,000 years of human dispersal across Australia. These findings rule out climate change, and implicate humans, as the primary extinction cause.

Indolent
Indolent
September 15, 2024 5:37 pm

Statement Dr Reiner Fuellmich Sept 10, 2024

A new statement by Dr Reiner Fuellmich, 10 Sept 2024, from his prison cell in Germany. Still in isolation, and talking about his mother’s death and how he could not say good-bye to her.

But he is a strong, very strong spirit, and his compassion for humanity shines through. His suffering has allowed the light in his heart to shine brighter than ever before!

Indolent
Indolent
September 15, 2024 5:39 pm
DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 15, 2024 5:41 pm

It’s a good article of Bolt’s pointing out the grotesque crap this fat bearded bastard and other shits like him sprout in the 3rd nation grifter industry; BUT FFS the first folks came to this shithole 47000 years ago.

A white bloke is not allowed to contradict an aborigine. Or even someone who identifies as one. That’s just white supremacism.

Roger
Roger
September 15, 2024 5:43 pm

The science actually says 40,000 years.

Science doesn’t “say” anything.

Scientists interpret data and publish hypotheses that seek to explain it.

More often than not throughout history they’ve been proven wrong by later scientists who have examined their work and the data and developed better hypotheses. Science is rarely “settled” and to suggest otherwise is counter-productive because it militates against asking questions, which is key to the scientific method.

That’s not criticising science but pointing out how it works.

We shouldn’t dogmatise science…we’ve recently seen the dangers of doing so.

And we should be very wary of governments attempting to forbid criticism of “the science” via “misinformation” legislation. Governments and their bureaucratic advisers have no monopoly on scientific truth.

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cohenite
September 15, 2024 5:47 pm

Outstanding summary of cackles from WIP:

word-salad-v0-13sl8mlecgmd1.jpg (719×720) (powerlineblog.com)

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 15, 2024 5:50 pm

Observer: “Monty is the biggest tard in Australia”…

David Shoebridge: ” Hold my soy latte”

https://x.com/DavidShoebridge/status/1834778799424389298

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 15, 2024 6:20 pm

‘Aggressive, drunken, lascivious, sexist’ – Bob Hawke before he was PMBy Frank BongiornoSeptember 13, 2024 — 4.00pm

Listen to this article
6 min
BIOGRAPHY
Young Hawke: The Making of a Larrikin
David Day
HarperCollins, $49.99

What changed when he became P.M?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 15, 2024 6:40 pm

I just saw the article Roger posted about the nuclear families – posted around midday.

One of the points raised was the origin of ‘the individual’, the article citing the Greeks and the Romans.

My immediate response was ‘The Greeks, certainly. The Romans probably less so.’ But then it struck me – we know the Greek idea of the individual as an individual found its greatest expression in their philosophy. The idea that the universe orbits around each individual as the centre of the universe. Multiple ‘centres’ at the same time so each sees something slightly (or even profoundly) different.

An astounding revelation.

But then I thought – this thinking would have been concentrated in a certain class – the elite class that read Plato and bummed boys. Did the average Greek see things this way?

Did the early Church read it and made it a core expression of an idea which explained religious teachings which they then pressed upon the whole of their flock? Telling even the lowliest among them such in a way that the ancient Greeks did not bother.

It would be a bit like the marble busts and statues. The European tradition of statuary made of pure marble or limestone or bronze or whatever – unpainted an unadorned – is a sort that we sense as the most honourable and revered. Our parks feature statues of past heroes in blind material. Daubing them with colours would look silly and tacky. Painting Captain Cooks coat and eye-colours would look ridiculous to us, Graffiti, in fact. But now we learn that the Romans and Greeks DID paint their statues. (And columns, and so on.) But the Europeans accidentally created something new. The sculptings of Michelangelo are far more poignant than anything a Roman (or even a Greek) could have created. You see those statues of Augustus Caesar posing as Father of the Country and see something splendid. The Romans wouldn’t have. They painted it. Painted the eyes, the eyelashes, and God knows what traits were not depicted in shape such as skin colour. The Europeans carved figures that would make the ancients’ work look rather flat.

I always come back to Michelangelo’s ‘David’. I see exactly what Kenneth Clark saw when he described it as, below the neck just an ordinary statue of the sort that any Roman or Greek sculptor might have made. But then you come to the head and see something new, perhaps something unique to Christian tradition – the ancient statues showed faces in anger, pride, placidness, majesty, even magnanimity. But the David shows a distinctive determination and a contempt for physical discomfort. Something not just absent from the statues but the literature.

It found a place in the art because they did not know about the paint.

And here is the kicker. While your average Greek might not have had much of an idea of the primacy of the individual (while they all would certainly had a clear idea of their own individuality “I am immobilised by my pain. I fear for my children and my family – they are most important to me) there was perhaps an accidental precursor to the non-Clan corporations in Greece in the Athenian reforms by some old guy that rearranged the Athenian political system into Trittys where instead of having organic tribes from the city, the plain and the coast (who would all have had their own city, plain, or coastal prejudices) they deliberately created new tribes which were each made up of people of the three regions who now had to work together in competition with other tribes so comprised – people from the city working with people of the plain against other people of the city from a different tribe.

Even now our electoral system tries to prevent geography like the urban areas riding roughshod over less populous areas like farmers. It is why we have the senate system we have, and the Americans their electoral college.

Tyrannous people in London, NY, LA, Sydney and Melbourne hate these systems precisely because they are harder to game.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 15, 2024 6:46 pm

Brendan Kerin wants us to believe the Welcome to Country is “250,000 years old”

That would make the locals homo erectus. They really should think before spouting this stuff.

Indolent
Indolent
September 15, 2024 7:02 pm

Outsiders really cut loose on this issue. Well justified. It’s terrifying.

‘Insanity’: Coalition ‘finally’ standing up to Labor’s misinformation bill

Crossie
Crossie
September 15, 2024 7:23 pm

Somebody commented earlier today or yesterday that they have had enough of the welcome to country and the aboriginal activism, that the best thing to do is repeal the Native Title Act and make everyone equal.

Most Australians are equally fed up but are not able to stop the juggernaut that is being encouraged by Labor in particular and the left generally. This will likely be resolved in the next five to ten years by the very millions of migrants currently being let into the “country”.

Once the new arrivals become citizens and start voting they likewise will be disgusted by the divisions and inequality these laws and practices are facilitating and will vote to repeal the Native Title Act and disband or strip the myriad aboriginal groups, committees, councils etc of any powers.

In other words, Labor and Greens are importing the very people who will put an end to their grip on power.

bons
bons
September 15, 2024 7:24 pm

If you were an inner European communist Catholic bishop electing a new pope, what would be your ideal useful idiot.

Thank you Lord, a hillbilly Peronist fascist will do just fine.

Rabz
September 15, 2024 7:46 pm

we commemorated 51 years from the appalling US and Australian backed coup that toppled the democratically elected Allende government

Well, there you go – from an ahistorical greenfilth imbecile who isn’t afraid to traduce St Gough – the latter being the legislative legend who gifted sewerage to Mosquebourne, freed all the indodgyknees, gave women the vote and brought the diggers back from Veitman. 😕

Arky
September 15, 2024 7:51 pm

Modern cars are shit. Really, really shit. Engineers need to be brought, grabbed by the back of the neck, to their idiotic creations and have their heads banged against metal until they get it.
Just did the service on the missus new acquisition, a 2018 Camry. Forget that I had to bung the Model A’s body back on it’s chassis to make room in the shed for the Toyota. That’s the least of it.
It has an electronic park brake. What a stupid idea.
Are people really so lazy and useless that they can’t be bothered pulling a lever?
These are ideas searching for some clueless lady person customer.
Fine. You want, Mr Engineer, to sell cars to ladies, and gadgets that do already simple operations at the flick of a switch help you to do that.
But the switch has to be attached to two electric motors. Which attach to the rear brake cylinders. Which Arky has to spend half the day researching how to disengage without breaking them or the sensors attached thereto.
Turns out Toyota has programmed in a procedure which involves pressing the brake pedal, turning the key on and off, and lifting the park brake button up three times, down three times, all of which must be performed in correct order and timing. And the drivers door has to be open. And if you stuff it up you turn the car off and walk away to give it and you time to cool down.
After many attempts, eventually the motors disengage themselves from the brake cylinders, and the brakes can be serviced as per a normal car which a normal man might be enticed to buy in a normal world full of engineers who weren’t sadistic pricks with tiny hands, tiny, deviant minds and microscopic genitals.
Admittedly, the motors, once the extravagant dance of the ignition key, button and foot brake is complete, withdraw themselves with a satisfying whir. Pretty cool actually.
Ladies. Understand, that even though you are a fragile, semi incapacitated and delicate individual with special needs, all these little extra gizmos require motors. The automatic tailgate, the handbrake that turns itself on and off, the button operated sunroof. The seat that massages your generous arse.
These motors are responsible for the fact that your car, like you, is now obese. Also, your car will be broken beyond economic repair once these motors start to break, making your resale value and the usefulness of the vehicle to subsequent owners… doubtful. The downsides far outweigh the tiny bit of “specialness” you might feel at purchase. Just stop.

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Rabz
September 15, 2024 7:55 pm

Modern cars are shit. Really, really shit.

Good to see you’ve finally noticed, Arks.

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
September 15, 2024 8:04 pm

I don’t know what’s more infantilising- the Noble Savage industry expecting us to believe that pre-British australians were wise, subtle, humble and hospitable demi-nature-gods who never knew hardship nor greed… or expecting us to believe that the penultimate nations were actually a united fierce warrior race who woulda taken all youse c**** out but were tricked out if their inheritance by trickery, genocide, poisoned waterholes and biowarfare blankets.

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132andBush
132andBush
September 15, 2024 8:04 pm

JC
 September 14, 2024 11:30 pm

Fatboy

So, the state invites 20,000 Haitians to move into a tiny town, knowing it’ll cause serious tension, and somehow Vance is a Nazi for pointing that out? Seems like the left’s strategy is, “If you spot a problem, congratulations, you’re now a Nazi”

The sheer callousness of doing this to vulnerable folks is just unfathomable.

This is hilarious.

JC, one of many here representative of the bourgeoisie, can plainly see what’s happening to those less fortunate and vulnerable.

On the other hand we have Monty (Comrade), fearless defender of the proletariat, who, let’s face it, couldn’t give a fat rats clacker what happens to the little people.

Crossie
Crossie
September 15, 2024 8:04 pm

Modern cars are shit. Really, really shit.

What I hate the most is the automatic lane guide that some cars have where it wants to wrestle you for the steering wheel if it doesn’t think you are doing it right.

Just drove a rented Opel in Europe and had to remember to disable the feature each time I started the car. It was really distressing when it kicked in while huge trucks were driving past in the opposite direction on very narrow roads.

Miltonf
Miltonf
September 15, 2024 8:09 pm

Well Opels are crap and have been for many years.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 15, 2024 8:10 pm

Test.

BOM

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 15, 2024 8:14 pm

Test 2

BOM

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 15, 2024 8:17 pm

Steps followed, no joy.

Eyrie
Eyrie
September 15, 2024 8:28 pm

Modern cars are shit. Really, really shit.

The Mazda CX-5 has an electronic park brake. Kinda neat actually as it never needs to be adjusted. Electric motor winds a cable on a drum. I suspect they monitor the motor current and stop it when it stalls. Cable stretch/pad wear doesn’t matter
It took awhile to adjust as we leaped 19 years of automotive tech but the driver assist features are pretty unobtrusive. Love the radar cruise control and the synthetic top down camera view for parking.
You want low tech? Get a Cessna. Makes an FJ Holden look like a riot of modern technology.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 15, 2024 8:29 pm

dover0beach
 September 15, 2024 8:24 pm

—-

Indeed it did. Cheers.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 15, 2024 8:35 pm

I do love the SpaceX people. Was just scanning the vid of the return of the private spacewalk mission, when I saw what they had decalled on the inside of their spacecraft.

WARNING 1.21 GIGAWATTS

Perfect!

(From 1:55:10 in the video.)

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 15, 2024 8:38 pm

https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2024/09/im-with-elon.html

Numbers Bob is there, turning the site into how he was conscripted to fight in Vietnam…

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 15, 2024 8:40 pm

Dover, when I highlighted BOM, is that ment to appear in the link box?

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 15, 2024 8:41 pm

First experience with all the bing bongs of a modern car was a rental car out of Mackay on the Peak Downs hwy. Approaching a slow vehicle between Eton’s Gap and Nebo with not a lot of room to overtake.

Made the d to go for it but had got gotten too close to the car in front that my car started backing off for without my input. Here I am after not noticing the car was washing off speed and pulling into the oncoming lane to overtake and WTF till I planted the foot and she took off before it got dangerous and I pulled in front. There were others behind me waiting to have their turn as well.

About 10km later approaching an overtaking lane same approaching a slower vehicle and it did exactly the same, till the foot was planted and I passed.

Now I was wary WTF is going on. Other side of Nebo approached another slow veh but no good for overtaking. The car started washing off speed keeping a gap that was bigger than I wanted or needed. That’s when the light bulb went on the car was doing it.

At site on handover my offsider had a giggle and asked how I didn’t know it was a safety feature and all the newer models have it. I didn’t at that time and retorted it was also bloody dangerous.

I quickly learned how to switch off these features and did it every time I had the vehicles. I think we can be too reliant on technology at times.

Cassie of Sydney
September 15, 2024 8:53 pm

250,000 years old

If that’s the case, then Australian aboriginals are not part of the human story, they’re a different human to the rest of us.

Is there no one in the media and in academia who is willing to stand up and say ‘enough’ of this rubbish?

Muddy
Muddy
September 15, 2024 8:57 pm

Response to Wally’s 8:04 p.m. post:

I’ve noted previously that the black armband version of history is a spit in the face of those indigenous people at the time of European settlement who chose to adapt to radically different circumstances as best they could, and who saw the benefits the newcomers brought.

Straddling two worlds could not have been an easy task, but plenty must have done it. To ignore the trials and tribulations of those who chose to try to mesh the old with the new, is more than ignorance and arrogance: It is a conceit that anyone would or could have acted differently.

Spitting on the spirits of those 2-world straddlers is worthy of having the bone pointed. You cannot be a ‘proud’ such-and-such if you disrespect the memory of those you claim to be a descendant of. The chances are that back then, weak characters like yourself would have been cast aside, if you were lucky.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 15, 2024 9:06 pm

More SpaceX awesomeness.

“Lets talk about the heatshield in greater detail…most of the capsule is composed of a SpaceX Proprietary Ablative Material or SPAM.”

Yes, they rode through the atmosphere back to Earth on a heatshield made of Spam.

(Vid at about 45:00.)

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Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 15, 2024 9:19 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 15, 2024 9:18 pm
Awaiting for approval

‘Cold blooded deviant’ walked free, killed partner Liam Mendes
3 hours ago.
Updated 1 hours ago
8 comments
A man who cut through his partner’s achilles tendon after a three decade history of assaulting women has been charged with murder after being released from prison less than a year ago, when he was sentenced to less than one-third of the maximum sentence by the Northern Territory’s chief justice.

Miltonf
Miltonf
September 15, 2024 9:22 pm

The Hyundai steering assist is pretty unobtrusive.

Indolent
Indolent
September 15, 2024 9:29 pm
MatrixTransform
September 15, 2024 10:15 pm

omfg… The Voice

I’m pitching some improvements to help them attract a wider viewing audience

option 1, The Voice: death-match

everybody sings but the loser, instead of going home, gets hog-tied and grilled over open flame like Haitian long pig
the losing judge is left on an ant-hill with the camera rolling until it’s over

option 2, The Voice: Roller Derby

contenders roller skate with knuckle dusters and baseball bats at high speed … singing, obviously
the last skater who can carry a tune wins
and the judges are pooled defenseless at the end of the series to be mercilessly beaten by the contenders

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
September 15, 2024 10:27 pm

It’s 10 minutes

@yashar Sep 13 Vice-President Kamala Harris sat down for her second tv interview since she jumped in the race as the presidential candidate. The interview was with Brian Taff of Philadelphia’s Action News 6 ABC. Here is the entire interview.

Perhaps I need help.
Comrade Kamala comes off as caring and reasonable in this interview.
Targets grassroots in contrast to the trickle-down theory of Trump.
I suppose it all being paid for by OPM is the catch.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
September 15, 2024 10:42 pm

Muddy, the “walks in two worlds” conceit leaves me cold… it’s an invention of the Geoff Clarks of the current day, where a massive beneficiary wants to reap the boons of the Enlightenment while claiming protected victim status at the same time.
I doubt that any of the overwhelming majority of aboriginals who left the hardships of a hunter-gatherer superstitious gentocracy and grabbed British civilization with both hands ever looked back, let alone believed that they were somehow transcending both cultures.

Aaron
Aaron
September 16, 2024 1:18 am

Modern cars?

Just for 12 months, I like to see a rule that every car had to be manual.

Sort out the yummy mummies trekking through wildest,deepest,unexplored Australian shopping centres in V8 Patrols, LandCruisers etc.

m0nty
m0nty
September 16, 2024 2:48 am

JD Vance admits on CNN that the Haitian cat barbeque stuff is all made up.

If I have to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention to the suffering of the American people, then that’s what I’m going to do.

Christopher Rufo offered five grand for proof that the Springfield stories were true. He got some grainy footage of chickens on a grill in Dayton, with live cats prowling nearby.

You lot look like fools once again.

m0nty
m0nty
September 16, 2024 3:05 am

Meanwhile, Trump reacts with dignity and composure to an Ipsos poll where he is down six points:

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LB2
LB2
September 19, 2024 7:17 am
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