Open Thread – Weekend 14 Sept 2024


At the Tea Table, Konstantin Korovin, 1888

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Delta A
Delta A
September 14, 2024 9:39 pm

Thanks for that, Bushie. Another la Nina would suit me just fine.

will
will
September 14, 2024 9:47 pm

CIA Whistleblower on Julian Assange

CIA Agent Reveals Deadly Mistakes the Government Tried to Cover Up

Indolent
Indolent
September 14, 2024 9:47 pm

It’s outrageous that something like this should even need to be contemplated.

Trump pledges to launch federal task force to ‘liberate Aurora’ from foreign gangs 

Indolent
Indolent
September 14, 2024 9:53 pm
Rabz
September 14, 2024 10:00 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 14, 2024 10:00 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTt0L_qwntg

Rhodesian “Ballard of the Green Berets”

This ones for a couple of the okes – they know who they are…

Indolent
Indolent
September 14, 2024 10:03 pm

Anyone passing a law like this is a fascist.

@cb_doge

Australian PM dismissed Elon Musk’s claims that the Labor government is “fascist,” stating X has a “social responsibility.”

Australia proposed a law to fine social networks up to 5% of global revenue for failing to curb misinformation. Its a clear attack on free speech.

Indolent
Indolent
September 14, 2024 10:06 pm

@robinmonotti

Infants have very good immune systems which are constantly being topped up by mother’s milk. What their immune systems have NOT evolved to deal with is piercing their skin layer with needles to inject various toxins used in “vaccines” as adjuvants. This can damage them for life.

Indolent
Indolent
September 14, 2024 10:11 pm

@robinmonotti

THE REAL REASON FOR CLIMATE CHANGE:

The warming from the Sun is cyclical, it’s NOT constant. The distance of where you are from the Sun is constantly changing because both the Earth’s orbit around the Sun is irregular and the Sun itself wobbles due to the combined gravitational pull of all the planets together. Look at the Schwabe solar cycle of 11 years, the Jose solar cycle of solar Inertial Motion of 179 years, Eddy Solar Cycle of 1000 years, the Bray-Halstatt Cycles of 2300-2500 years, then look into the three Milankovitch Cycles.

Short to medium term climate change:
Solar Inertial Motion: the combined mass of the planets also moves the position of the Sun through their combined gravitational pull, meaning the Sun moves around following the ever moving barycentre of the Solar system rather than being in a fixed central point in the middle Solar System. That is the key thing to understand: the Sun is moving around, wobbling in spiral like motion as it travels, it is not stationary. Once you understand that all medium term climate change can be explained simply because of the Sun’s changing distance from the Earth.

None of this has anything to do with humans. None of this has anything to do with CO2. The models of the Solar System you grew up believing as a child were gross over simplifications. They conditioned you to believe that the Solar system has a fixed Sun position with a regular Sun activity with regular orbits, of which the Earth is one. Yet that is not the reality: not only the earth both tilts and wobbles as it orbits, but the orbit is a changing ellipse not a perfect circle, meaning the distance from the Sun is not constant. These are the three Milankovitch cycles. Also other planets have irregular orbits.

The combined effect of all these irregular orbits together pulls the Sun off centre of the solar system into the barycentre. A wobbling Sun is the real reason for short to medium term climate change, and an irregular earth orbit, tilt and wobble is the reason for long term climate change.

And this is just the beginning of the story of irregularity in the Earth’s orbit around the Sun, then there are cycles of Sun activity, making it stronger and weaker according to how close to the 11 year cycle of magnetic poles flip it is, next being in 2024, and how many Sun spots & Solar flares we are exposed to.

Then you need to factor volcanic activity, the Hunga-Tonga Hunga underwater volcanic eruption of January 2022 increased the water vapour in the stratosphere by 10%, this in itself will cause considerable warming of the planet in most regions.

It’s definitely not a simplistic neat black and white story of CO2, a minor greenhouse gas, as 95% of the earth’s greenhouse gases are constituted by water vapour instead.

Humans have no power to determine either the orbit of the Earth around the Sun or the Sun’s internal & external activity, or the water vapour in the atmosphere.

Life adapts much more easily to higher temperatures and increases in CO2, particularly plants, vegetation, trees, plankton& phytoplankton, than it does to decreases in CO2.

The real danger is a decrease of CO2, and a decrease in temperature, not an increase in either.

Once again, we have been deceived by a systematically corrupt scientific funding system linked to oligarchs interests.

CO2 was always a control knob for economic prosperity, not climate.

Indolent
Indolent
September 14, 2024 10:13 pm

@liz_churchill10

Bill Gates to use AI to silence those that oppose his ‘vaccines’.

“We should have free speech, but if you’re inciting violence…OR if you’re causing people NOT to take vaccines, where are those boundaries that even the US should have rules?” -Bill Gates

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 14, 2024 10:13 pm

Sydney Lord Mayor Clover Moore heads into a third decade in power
From the Oz.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 14, 2024 10:50 pm

Another good walk with Cash. Always attracting a crowd and smiles.

I do wonder what people think when Stevo just drops the leash with so many people around?

Woof bark Growl:

Cash 2.0 Great Dane at the Americana at Brand in Glendale, California 11

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcNTiqY2DXU

m0nty
m0nty
September 14, 2024 11:03 pm

JD Vance now straight up running the Nazi playbook.

In Springfield, Ohio, there has been a massive rise in communicable diseases, rent prices, car insurance rates, and crime. This is what happens when you drop 20,000 people into a small community. 

Kamala Harris’s immigration policy aims to do this to every town in our country.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 14, 2024 11:26 pm

In Springfield, Ohio, there has been a massive rise in communicable diseases, rent prices, car insurance rates, and crime. This is what happens when you drop 20,000 people into a small community

mUnter:

Are you able to say, without equivocation, that this isn’t happening?

No?

No. Thought not.

JC
JC
September 14, 2024 11:30 pm

Fatboy
So, the state invites 20,000 Haitians to move into a tiny town, knowing it’ll cause serious tension, and somehow Vance is a Nazi for pointing that out? Seems like the left’s strategy is, “If you spot a problem, congratulations, you’re now a Nazi”

The sheer callousness of doing this to vulnerable folks is just unfathomable.

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Indolent
Indolent
September 14, 2024 11:41 pm
KevinM
KevinM
September 15, 2024 1:38 am

Doing good work without pay a humane thing to do, it happened, still does.

The Extraordinary Story of ‘The Madonnas of Pervyse’.
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In 1914, Mairi Chisholm and Elsie Knocker left London determined ‘to do their bit’ on the Western Front.

The women had met through their shared passion for motorbikes.
In Belgium they got jobs driving ambulances to military hospitals.
Yet, Mairi and Elsie soon discovered that many of the soldiers who they transported across bumpy roads, died of their wounds before they reached hospitals.

To address this, Mairi and Elsie resolved to set up their own first-aid post on the front line in the wrecked village of Pervyse, near Ypres.
Elsie, a qualified nurse who was full of bold ideas, reasoned that soldiers could be treated and stabilised in the aid post within a few critical hours after their wounding, which would save lives. After initial resistance, medical authorities agreed to the plan.

Elsie and Mairi installed themselves in a primitive cellar of a house that was 55 yards from the front line.
To combat the bitter winters, they dressed and slept in rubber boots over two pairs of stockings. They also wore thick trousers, a shirt, three sweaters, and a heavy overcoat that reached to the tips of their boots.

The friends continuously risked their lives, working under sniper fire and heavy bombardment, to treat their patients.
News of their courage and expertise quickly spread. They soon became known as The Madonnas of Pervyse’.

A procession of journalists, photographers, dignitaries, and royals visited them.

Despite their celebrity, Elsie and Mairi were not paid for their work. Rather, they spent their savings and sold their beloved motorbikes to keep their first aid post open.

Elsie and Mairi remained in Pervyse until arsenic gas nearly killed them in the spring of 1918.
They returned home and tried to readjust to peacetime life. They soon discovered that society still retained narrow views on a woman’s role in everyday life.

This proved more challenging for Elsie and Mairi than the war itself.

Elsie
KevinM
KevinM
September 15, 2024 1:39 am

Under sail.

sub
KevinM
KevinM
September 15, 2024 1:41 am

“History teaches us that men and nations behave wisely once they have exhausted all other alternatives.”
(Abba Eban, Israeli diplomat)

Incidentally, he said the very same thing about the US.

“You can always count on the American people to do the right thing, after they have exhausted all other possibilities.”

Nothing changed since.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 15, 2024 3:50 am

Obviously many here at the Cat have been traumatised by all the recent cat and animal memes related to Springfield.

Just a trigger warning about the Great Springfield Pet Massacre over at the Week in Pictures. You might think you are mentally tough. However prepare yourself and have a handkerchief ready for what happened to the brave firefighters after they rescued some cute animals. Some counselling may be required and under no circumstances look at this week’s images with children as the horror will stay with them forever.

You have been warned.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 15, 2024 3:54 am

PS KevinM great story about the nurses. However not very gentlemanly of the British Army not to pay them.

Tom
Tom
September 15, 2024 4:00 am
Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 15, 2024 4:33 am

From a Daily Mail article about Welcome to Country at an AFL game. Must have been some new cave paintings or archeological dig we have not been told about.
Seems added another 150,000 years.

‘It’s a ceremony we’ve been doing for 250,000 years-plus BC – and the BC stands for Before Cook.’

Beertruk
September 15, 2024 5:13 am

Today’s Sunday Tele:

ANGRY LIBERALS TRASH BALLOT

LINDA SILMALIS – JAKE MCCALLUM
15 Sep 2024

Angry Liberal supporters turning up to council elections with no conservative candidates ended up trashing their ballot papers with record numbers of informal votes recorded yesterday.

And while Sydney’s independent Lord Mayor Clover Moore last night claimed victory after snatching a historic sixth term, she was set to lose her majority with three rather than five councillors being elected.

The day brought mixed results for both major parties while the Greens were being punished in Woollahra and Waverley in Sydney’s eastern suburbs.

On the northern beaches, up to one quarter of votes lodged were informal with the lack of Liberal councillors blamed for the record high.

The absence of Liberals was also attributed to the Greens looking to double their number from two to four councillors while the Your Northern Beaches Independents were on track to increase their number from five to seven.

The lack of Liberal candidates on one ward in Penrith resulted in all five Labor candidates being elected.

Down in Sutherland, the Liberals were set to gain a majority despite the controversial dumping of the mayor and deputy mayor, both of whom ran as independents.

In Parramatta, the Liberals were also out-polling Labor while the party was experiencing a landslide in the Hills – a council where candidates were previously rolled by the party in 2021.

The Liberals were also set to retain the Ryde and Canada Bay mayoralty.

Up in Byron, independent Mayor Michael Lyon was set to be defeated with Labor to take his place. Mr Lyon, who is currently embroiled in domestic violence allegations, said he was feeling defeated over early polling results.

Mr Lyon is accused of assaulting his wife Susan Lyon at their home on August 1. He has pleaded not guilty.

“It’s an absolute disaster for me at the moment,” he said. “To be honest, my initial results are so bad that I’m not sure I’ll even get on council this time around, let alone mayor. The results have been pretty poor so far but not wholly unexpected.”

Over at Ku-ring-gai Council – which has waged a war against the Minns government housing reforms – Mayor Sam Ngai declared development to have been the “single biggest issue for voters” at north shore polling booths.

“About 80 per cent of people who talked to me had concerns about the six-storey uniformed approach the government is taking,” he said.

Sydney’s most popular mayors are independent Frank Carbone – who comfortably retained the top job at Fairfield with almost 80 per cent – and “pro-housing” Burwood Labor Mayor John Faker who was far behind.

In Liverpool, Mayor Ned Mannoun was ahead with more than 40 per cent over the vote last night.

The lead-up to the NSW council elections saw a catastrophic failure from the NSW Liberal Party, which failed to nominate almost 140 candidates by deadline set by the NSW Electoral Commission.

Counting will resume on Monday.

Hopefully the dog collar will have it’s wings clipped a bit.

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Beertruk
September 15, 2024 5:39 am

Today’s Sunday Tele:

HE’S A REAL ALBO-TROSS AROUND ALL OUR NECKS

Peta Credlin
15 Sep 2024

The fact that a first term government is now struggling in the polls, just 50/50 in two party preferred terms, with its primary vote well down even on the last election’s record low, and some 30 seats in play, shows that many voters are starting to think they’ve been had.

Dudded.

Worried that a great country is now in decline, Australians look at Anthony Albanese and see that, far from trying to improve economic competitiveness and social cohesion, his government is making things worse.

Sometimes, deliberately.

Take energy. Our electricity bills tell the story of renewable power; the more of it we have, the more expensive our power has become. The government keeps insisting that power from the sun and wind is “free” as if there’s no capital cost, no transmission cost and no firming cost but all of that must be paid for.

Take the so-called “Made in Australia” program. This government talks constantly of so-called “investments” that will supposedly “unlock” private capital – especially as part of the so-called “green economy” – when, in fact, all this will do is create a sector of subsidy dependent crony capitalists. Likewise, it boasts about job creation even though statistics prove that two-thirds of the recent jobs created are in the public sector, so jobs we pay for as taxpayers.

Take rights. Of course, Australians have a right to protest but they don’t have a right to disrupt the daily lives of others and they certainly do not have a right to use violence no matter how strongly they feel about climate issues or about life in Gaza. And, while no one wants to see trans people disrespected, that doesn’t give biological men the right to invade women-only spaces such as change rooms and sporting competitions. On issues like these, the Albanese government can’t quite seem to decide whose side it’s on.

At least for a time, most prime ministers grow into the job, as they transition from party to national leader. But because he chose the divisive Voice as his “signature” policy, Anthony Albanese has never really transcended intense partisanship. Even the couple of issues where a measure of bipartisanship has just been achieved, such as putting the CFMEU into administration and aged care reform, reflect more on Peter Dutton’s growing political maturity than that of the PM.

It’s hard to avoid the conclusion that the PM’s heart is still basically with the far left he championed as a student activist. You want to know why preschool kids are expected to participate in reconciliation week activities; why nearly all official business starts with an “acknowledgment of country”; why the military now have diversity targets; and why schools won’t tell parents that their kids want to change their gender? It’s the impact of the rampant cultural Marxism that holds that societies like ours are essentially illegitimate because they’re supposedly based on white, male, settler “privilege” and are bent on destroying the environment. And it’s this cultural Marxism that Labor finds hard to resist because it now depends on the preferences of the Greens to survive.

For the best part of 50 years, the hard left has been trying to undermine our institutions and corrode the self-confidence of western democracies, especially the English-speaking ones. The phrase “the long march through the institutions” well describes the left’s tactics: To infiltrate leftist thinkers into key institutions, especially educational ones, and to put committed, or at least malleable, people into key jobs so that, over time, institutions such as universities, bureaucracies, courts, and even the army and the church become agents of radical social change rather than social stability.

As it’s turned out, the Marxists who could never persuade the working class to revolt over strict economic equality have been much better at persuading the middle class to revolt over saving the planet, ending the patriarchy, and fighting racism, even though environmental protections have never been greater, and minorities of every type have never been better looked after.

It was the PM’s identity obsessions which saw him unleash the Voice onto an unsuspecting public: a massive sneak attack on a constitution that had served us well for over a century, that would have given some people a special say over everyone, based on their ancestry. Naturally, Albanese dressed it up as just being “polite” and “gracious” to Aboriginal people and a way of saying sorry for the past even though that had supposedly been addressed with Kevin Rudd’s apology in 2008.

This is why Anthony Albanese stressed, pre-election, that he was “safe change” and really only wanted to swap out an unpopular incumbent in Scott Morrison, plus cut power bills, boost real wages and ease mortgage pressure – none of which, in fact, he’s done. Instead, cost of living has never been higher, hospitals are in crisis, he’s massively boosted union power, made new resource developments almost impossible, weakened border protection and released foreign criminals into the community.

More and more, the Albanese government looks like it could really be a “oncer”.

THUMBS UP:

Peter Malinauskas: The SA premier has finally forced all sides of politics, state and federal, into doing something to limit the harm that social media is causing our young people.

THUMBS DOWN:

Melbourne’s violent, masked-up protesters: They attacked police, further damaged the state’s reputation and cost taxpayers$30 million in extra security costs during the three-day defence expo.

Beertruk
September 15, 2024 5:46 am

Today’s Sunday Tele continued:

MEDAL-STRIPPING DEBACLE IS WHY WE HAVE SUICIDE EPIDEMIC IN ADF

Peta Credlin
2024

The Albanese government has just stripped medals off mid-ranking officers who fought in the Afghanistan campaign.

We don’t know how many are involved because the Defence Minister refuses to tell us, but his reason is that possible war crimes were committed on their watch. It’s hard to overstate how badly this whole business has been handled.

First, it’s very hard from the comfort and safety of our lounge rooms to judge the conduct of people whose lives are at risk every day, and have seen their mates killed, in part, because of rules of engagement specifying catch and release.

It’s wrong for soldiers to take matters into their own hands – if that’s what’s happened – but it’s not entirely their fault when we ask impossible things of them.

Second, if there must be punitive action, it can’t drag on and on and on and on.

Our part in the actual fighting finished in 2013, more than 10 years ago. The Brereton investigation began in 2016.

A redacted version of his conclusions was published in November 2020. For some eight years, 25 special forces soldiers have been living under the shadow of possible war crimes trials – yet still, only one individual has ever been charged. It’s just not right that people who volunteered to put their lives on the line for our country have been treated like this, even if some of them might have made serious mistakes.

Earlier this week, with the release of the royal commission on veterans’ suicide, we collectively resolved to treat our soldiers better.

How is this latest humiliation and indignity consistent with that? If this is a national shame, it’s at least as much about how our soldiers have been treated as anything done on the battlefield.

And please, the idea that senior command was completely without fault, that they were blameless? Don’t insult our intelligence. Senior command can’t claim ignorance, many of them, including the current Chief of the Defence Force, all served on the ground in Afghanistan. I went there three times, I sat in their briefings at our base in Tarin Kowt and now, from the safety of Canberra, they say they never knew? Truth, they say, is the first casualty of war.

Too many points to highlight.

Cassie of Sydney
September 15, 2024 5:47 am

JD Vance now straight up running the Nazi playbook.

Nazi, everyday you’re here ‘running the Nazi playbook’.

Beertruk
September 15, 2024 5:55 am

Today’s Sunday Tele

TESLA TRUCKCRASH BLAZE

15 Sep 2024

US firefighters used 190,000 litres of water to extinguish a blaze involving an electric Tesla Semi truck after a crash, a government agency said.

The crash took place in the wee hours of August 19 near Emigrant Gap in California, the National Transportation Safety Board confirmed.

The truck, operated by a Tesla employee, veered off the road while navigating a curve and struck a tree.

The driver was uninjured, but “the vehicle’s lithium-ion electric battery system ignited after the roadway departure”.

Lithium-ion batteries…’saving the planet’…/sarc off

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Cassie of Sydney
September 15, 2024 5:56 am

From The Oz…..

Early results suggested the party had also taken a hit across wards in Waverley and Randwick respectively. The former has a large Jewish population, although Labor has preferenced the Greens, and, in Randwick, it was placing third and last in incumbent Greens Mayor Philipa Veitch’s ward.

The Labor party preferencing Nazis. What’s good is that the Nazis have lost ground in Sydney’s suburbs, particularly here in Sydney’s eastern suburbs with big swings away from them.

Amen, nice to see the Nazis get punched electorally. To paraphrase the character Jake from The Blues Brothers…..

‘I hate Green Nazis’.

Oh, further to Nazis, I note how our very own and very real Nazi comes on here late at night when he thinks nobody is around to post a comment. Our Nazi is such a coward but then Nazis are always cowards.

Cassie of Sydney
September 15, 2024 6:22 am

Clover Moore will still be Lord Mayor in 50 years time.

Rosie
Rosie
September 15, 2024 7:00 am

Saw what I assume was a genuine video of Biden carrying a maga hat up the airborne one steps with him.
Reinforcing the message?

m0nty
m0nty
September 15, 2024 7:05 am

The city, not the state, asked for legal immigrants to shift cities to work jobs that the locals weren’t.

The migration was not 20,000 Haitians.

Haitians are 94% Christian.

House prices did not rise much more than the average.

Crime and communicable disease have not skyrocketed in Springfield.

There are no credible first-hand reports of Haitians stealing and eating household pets. It’s all rumours and hearsay.

Viral photos of black men carrying dead animals are not from Springfield, not of pets, not of Haitians and not recent.

Apart from that, good talking points you lot.

Cassie of Sydney
September 15, 2024 7:10 am

Cassie, Gemma Tognini has a good op-ed in the Paywallion:

Yes, I read her piece last night. I presume it was Tognini’s piece that triggered the Jew hating flasher/nudist from Whale Beach when he took to Twitter to call The Australian, ‘The Israelian“. The flasher, like our own Nazi, doesn’t like it when non-Jews speak up for Jews and Israel.

Cassie of Sydney
September 15, 2024 7:11 am

Nazi alert.

m0nty
m0nty
September 15, 2024 7:16 am

I would have thought Cranky would recognise a blood libel when she sees one. But no, she hates black people so it’s fine by her that her side is spreading lies about Haitians like the Nazis said about Jews with their lice spreading disease. Oy.

shatterzzz
September 15, 2024 7:31 am

Follow your media lead ..

Fluffy
calli
calli
September 15, 2024 7:33 am

Thanks for all the cat memes. This one amused me, having sat in the snug where The Guy hatched his plot.

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GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 15, 2024 7:35 am

The munted one is a disease only excised by complete removal from the planet. They have no place in civilization, a corporal, backed by a tailor and now supported by a footy fabulist shows the depth of intellect available. Death cannot come soon enough for this contagion.

Miltonf
Miltonf
September 15, 2024 7:37 am

A nasty piece of work.

calli
calli
September 15, 2024 7:40 am

Gosh this moggie, doggie and goose story has legs! We are even arguing over it thousands of miles away!

The real problem here is incompatible cultures combined with overwhelming numbers. It isn’t that difficult. Squeaking “waaaacist” won’t help the situation.

The Amazon angle is interesting. Cheap labour. Which will annoy the locals even more. It may well be that even a town loaded with progressives has had enough, which would account for all the chatterdebunking and squidink.

Cassie of Sydney
September 15, 2024 7:41 am

There are racists in Springfield like there are in any small town. 

Yes, there are racists on blogs like there are on any blog, and here on this blog that racist is you, Nazi boy.

By the way Nazi, we noted your silence on the blood libels spouted on Melbourne’s CBD streets this week. You and your lot didn’t utter a word of condemnation.

We see your venal hypocrisy, Nazi, and we hear your deafening silence, Nazi.

Cassie of Sydney
September 15, 2024 7:43 am

Our Nazi using the word ‘pogrom’. Our Nazi has no shame.

Cassie of Sydney
September 15, 2024 7:50 am

I would have thought Cranky would recognise a blood libel when she sees one. But no, she hates black people so it’s fine by her that her side is spreading lies about Haitians like the Nazis said about Jews with their lice spreading disease. Oy.

Hmm, interesting comment from our resident Nazi. Clearly, he’s rattled, he doesn’t like being called Nazi despite the fact that over the years here he’s called others ‘Nazis’, even proudly saying how much he wanted to ‘punch a Nazi’. When he hasn’t advocated violence against his ideological opponents, he’s called them ‘Nazis’. Gosh, could our resident Nazi be a venal hypocrite? Why yes, he is!

Actually, our Nazi can punch a Nazi everyday if he wants, all he has to do is look in a mirror, and punch away!

Miltonf
Miltonf
September 15, 2024 7:50 am

Just vomiting up the latest Demorat ‘talking points’

Indolent
Indolent
September 15, 2024 7:56 am
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Miltonf
Miltonf
September 15, 2024 7:58 am

Speaking of the left establishment, what are Starmer, the soft handed lawyer, and the old perv, another lawyer, up to? Trying to rev up the war in the Ukraine? These rubbish people are beyond despicable.

Indolent
Indolent
September 15, 2024 7:58 am
Rosie
Rosie
September 15, 2024 7:59 am

Of course if the 6665 residents of Seymour suddenly had 2000 Sudanese residents move in and made some objections Monty would call them racists too.
Normal people would be okay with people being less than comfortable that non English speaking people of an alien third world culture, religion, and skin colour moved in to their neighbourhood without so much as a by your leave.
Especially of most of them were young adult males.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 15, 2024 7:59 am

I see the fat fascist fool lauding the Haitians in Springfield Ohio.

Grant him his wish, but locally. Increase the population of his suburb by a third by flying thousands of Somalis and Sudanese there, and giving them preference for housing and social services.

Grant the m0ron his wish.

Indolent
Indolent
September 15, 2024 8:03 am
Indolent
Indolent
September 15, 2024 8:05 am
Rosie
Rosie
September 15, 2024 8:09 am
Zippster
Zippster
September 15, 2024 8:10 am

Humanoid Robots, the Job Market & Mass Automation – The Current State of AI w/ Emad Mostaque | EP114

The video features an in-depth conversation with Imad Mustak, the previous CEO of Stability AI, discussing his perspectives on the rapid evolution of artificial intelligence (AI) and its implications for society, technology, and the economy. Mustak emphasizes the transformative potential of AI, referencing his recent white paper “How to Think About AI,” which outlines the urgency of harnessing AI responsibly while mitigating its risks. The discussion covers various themes, including the future of work, investment opportunities in AI, the role of international cooperation, and the need for open-source infrastructure. Key points include: – Mustak argues that society is on the verge of one of the most transformative events in history due to the rapid advancement of AI, which he likens to the introduction of electricity as an essential national infrastructure. – He expresses concern about the potential existential threats posed by AI, particularly if mismanaged. – The white paper serves as a framework for understanding AI’s impact on daily life, urging individuals to consider their agency in relationship to AI developments. – He emphasizes the need for urgent action to harness the benefits of AI while addressing fears related to job displacement, predicting that despite job loss due to automation, many new jobs will emerge as a result of AI adoption. – Mustak notes that AI agents, likened to interns, will soon be capable of performing a variety of tasks, revolutionizing industries and potentially enhancing productivity across sectors. – He highlights the importance of human and AI ( calls them Centaurs) collaboration , arguing that the combination of human intelligence and AI capabilities will yield much greater results than either could achieve independently. – He calls for international cooperation in AI development, advocating for open-source models and infrastructure that can be accessed equitably, stating that this will ensure a balance of power and improve outcomes for society as a whole. – Mustak suggests that to understand and adapt to the evolving AI landscape, education systems must incorporate AI literacy, prompting users to engage with AI tools and explore innovative use cases actively. – He concludes by advocating for a collective approach to building AI systems that respect ethical considerations and reflect diverse global perspectives. An important quote from Mustak: “Intelligence is like electricity; it’s like clean water. It becomes available to everyone.” a collective global approach to harness its benefits for all of humanity.

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Chagpt o1-preview is out and I’ve been giving it a good workout. its coding abilities are mind blowingly good. Gpt 3 was a bit like an idiot savant, its small context window made it barely useable. gpt4 was probably at senior high school, undergrad level. o1 preview feels like post-grad level so far. The speed at which it generates really complex code is insane.

At this rate super intelligence is only a couple of generations away ie in the next few years.

Indolent
Indolent
September 15, 2024 8:16 am

@TONYxTWO

WOW!!!! Registered Democrat will be voting Donald J Trump on November 5th

This is a powerful video!! His emotion and story will bring you to tears!!! Watch entire video

MatrixTransform
September 15, 2024 8:21 am

House prices did not rise much more than the average

what an idiotic statement

Indolent
Indolent
September 15, 2024 8:21 am

@DC_Draino

I’ve been in this game long enough to know this media assault against @LauraLoomer isn’t a normal smear campaign

They are furious with her and finally taking out their anger

Why?

Who exposed Doug Emhoff’s secret nanny love child?

Loomer

Who exposed Trump trial Judge Merchan’s family secretly taking Democrat payments?

Loomer

Do the math

m0nty
m0nty
September 15, 2024 8:46 am

Of course if the 6665 residents of Seymour suddenly had 2000 Sudanese residents move in and made some objections Monty would call them racists too.

The same thing happened in the town in which I was born: Shepparton. You don’t see pogroms led by my kinfolk running the Sudanese fruit pickers out of town. The local industries need the workers, to be honest.

My godparents still live there, and they have told me stories of neighbours living in rather cramped conditions due to poverty. There are teething problems and cultural differences, as there have been throughout Australia’s migrant-fuelled history, but largely the story is the same as every other non-Anglo group since the Irish: they become part of the richer whole.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 15, 2024 8:49 am

Haitians for Hawthorn. You know it makes sense. Coming to a basement near you soon.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 15, 2024 8:54 am

Has mUnturd yet commented on KamelToe being endorsed by both Putin and Dick “Darth Vader” Cheney?

With those two on side, Shirley she will win.

Beertruk
September 15, 2024 8:57 am

You don’t see pogroms led by my kinfolk running the Sudanese fruit pickers out of town. The local industries need the workers, to be honest.

Lot of potential workers at Centrelink.
If a farmer went into Centrelink and yelled out ‘I NEED 20 FRUIT PICKERS’ most of them would scatter like cockroaches.

calli
calli
September 15, 2024 8:58 am

Words have meaning and meaning is important.

Pogrom – an organized massacre of a particular ethnic group, in particular that of Jewish people in Russia or eastern Europe in the late 19th and early 20th centuries

It also means “violent riot” in English.

I see no evidence of either in Ohio. I see cheesed off, worried residents.

Next we’ll see “Holocaust” used to describe mean looks.

Cassie of Sydney
September 15, 2024 8:59 am

Suddenly the Nazi is obsessed about pogroms. Weird because he had nothing to say about the October 7 pogrom.

Makka
Makka
September 15, 2024 9:00 am

m0ron with the current leftard talking points;

There are teething problems and cultural differences,

Black machete wielding B&E gangs, car theft, violent robbery etc – just your normal “teething problems and cultural differences”. And that’s just Melbourne suburbs.

Never ever believe a word m0ron posts. Not only is he invariably wrong, he’s an inveterate liar.

Miltonf
Miltonf
September 15, 2024 9:04 am

Pollutes this blog

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 15, 2024 9:08 am

Monty the rebel on the side of Amazon, that struggling little startup, and its quest to suck those sweet, sweet non citizen benefits.

https://hiring.amazon.com/our-team/refugees#/

Step one: Have a friendly mob import a group with “assimilation” problems.
Step 2: Offer to assist as a good corporate citizen.
Step 3: Get rid of your local employees who cost you about $14 an hour and replace them with ‘fugees you pay about $9 an hour (once the subsidy kicks in).
Step 4: Profit.

https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2003/07/09/03-17398/employment-subsidy-program-for-refugees-with-assimilation-difficulties

Monty is on the side of scab labour, slumlords and grinding the poorest segment of society into the dirt.

Miltonf
Miltonf
September 15, 2024 9:10 am

This is thing, canbra is very big on importing people who attack and kill regular citizens. Murders in Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane. People murdered in their own home in Brisbane. Home invasions in Melbourne. But that’s the canbra way. I sometimes wonder if the poisonous pubes in that despicable city built on theft have a little giggle about teaching the bourgeoisie a lesson in diversity.

As I’ve stated many times, the challenge for any half decent government is making those vile parasites in canbra actually act like public servants.

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Tom
Tom
September 15, 2024 9:13 am

Monty is on the side of scab labour, slumlords and grinding the poorest segment of society into the dirt.

LOL. Our troll is determined to ensure Australians vote for the establishment candidate in the November 5 US election after the ruling party sacked the senile puppe it installed in 2020 and nominated his bimbo box-ticking exercise for 2024 because people are stupid enough to vote for anything.

Miltonf
Miltonf
September 15, 2024 9:13 am

Actually I recall ‘Dr’ Miles did have a giggle about that attack in Ipswitch.

LB2
LB2
September 15, 2024 9:16 am

US firefighters used 190,000 litres of water to extinguish a blaze involving an electric Tesla Semi truck after a crash, a government agency said.

This might have helped:

79e26926-5b72-43b7-b02f-b07315dc95bc
thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 15, 2024 9:21 am

This is normal.

https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1835068431957418449/photo/1

The FBI is putting up BILLBOARDS written in HAITIAN CREOLE here in Springfield, Ohio encouraging people to “report hate crimes”

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 15, 2024 9:22 am

US firefighters used 190,000 litres of water to extinguish a blaze involving an electric Tesla Semi truck after a crash

It gets even better…

Tesla Semi Truck Crash Required 50000 Gallons of Water & Fire-Fighting Aircraft to Put Out Blaze – Fire’s temperatures reached 1,000 degrees F! (14 Sep)

A Tesla Semi crash in California last month required firefighters to dump 50,000 gallons of water on the burning wreckage of the electric tractor-trailer in order to extinguish the fire, the National Transportation Safety Board announced on Thursday — and authorities were even forced to call in air support to waterbomb the vicinity to keep the fire from spreading.

They actually brought in a waterbombing aircraft

Pogria
Pogria
September 15, 2024 9:22 am

I wonder if Blabbersack is paying attention to the Haitian/cat eating drama unfolding in the US.
She may be able to save Taxpayers money on the Feral Cat Eradication Program by importing several thousand Haitians, and dumping them in Alice Springs.

I’d pay to see that. Wait, I’ll be paying for it either way…

Titus Groates
Titus Groates
September 15, 2024 9:24 am

Outsiders is nearly unwatchable when the three hosts (especially Rowan Dean) talk over the top of each other. Not good television.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 15, 2024 9:26 am

Rosie

No thanks I still have relatives in Seymour and surrounds. They incidentally try talking about dumping Sud’s there 10 years ago but the backlash was furious along with the screams of waaacism. It was quickly and quietly dropped.

Beertruk
 September 15, 2024 8:57 am

Was in Shep recently when I was in Vic, it’s an shole but even before the illegal immigrants were dumped there by RGR it always had a rough element with the orchard workers and half caste Aboriginal element out by Mooroopna.

My observations over a few visits, there’s some Sud’s there but they are dwarfed by Iranians/Arabs overwhelmingly the majority of who don’t have any wish to work.

Shep was a city down on it’s luck and taken advantage of by Labor. Most of the business owners I talked to had nothing good to say about the new arrivals and the younger ones exuded typical Middle Eastern macho behaviour.

I don’t think the Local Government is helping either, the massive beautiful park on Lake Victoria had the best part bulldozed and some monstrosity of an art gallery built on it. Beautiful established trees, pic-nic areas and BBQ’s bang gone for something that looks as trashy as the Melbourne eye sore. CBD is dirty, full of vagrants and run down. Only place seemed to be doing well was Benalla rd industrial area.

We stayed 2 nights on our way in and out of Vic and because it’s the main commercial centre of thr GV if I needed car parts etc we’d have to go up there. Also even though it was in decline I don’t think Amatil’s take over of SPC has helped any, the seconds outlet used to be very good. It is now not much cheaper than the supermarkets and has all this other produce that isn’t cheaper than the supermarket.

Miltonf
Miltonf
September 15, 2024 9:27 am

I think the murder of the Pelligrini coffee guy in Melbourne was a shameful indication of the complete degeneration of public administration in Australia.

Rabz
September 15, 2024 9:27 am

Next we’ll see “Holocaust” used to describe mean looks.

hamarse pallyweirdos – the fattest famine victims in human history.

Davey Boy
Davey Boy
September 15, 2024 9:29 am

Yesterday, the Muslim Vote conducted a test run in the local government elections.

Presumably in preparation for the upcoming federal election.

In the Cumberland Council ward of South Granville, Labor’s share of votes collapsed from 64.9% in 2021, to 20.6% at the close of counting last night.

A group of previously unknown candidates now leads all others in South Granville ward, by a significant margin.

This group consists of individuals (Ahmed Ouf, Marwa Mosallam and Selim Khalil) who are associated with the Auburn Islamic Centre, which is believed to have issued directions at Friday prayers to vote for these candidates.

The previous long-serving Labor candidate, Glenn Elmore, is said to be devastated by the result.

Zippster
Zippster
September 15, 2024 9:36 am
Makka
Makka
September 15, 2024 9:39 am

The previous long-serving Labor candidate, Glenn Elmore, is said to be devastated by the result.

No doubt Albo is paying very close attention to these results too and also somewhat devo’d..

We’ll see in coming days and weeks an onslaught of moslem a*se kissing from our Labor Govts, soothing Islamic sensibilities, more anti-Israel slurs and gas lighting, more Govt jaw boning about the terrible “hate crimes” directed at moslems , Burgess moaning about “far right” terrorist organisations congregating in churches etc.

They only have to get the numbers to control the swing and then we have lost the country.

Miltonf
Miltonf
September 15, 2024 9:39 am

My observations over a few visits, there’s some Sud’s there but they are dwarfed by Iranians/Arabs overwhelmingly the majority of who don’t have any wish to work.

So why were they brought here? Shep is a pretty depressing place I agree and it reminds me of Wendouree.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 15, 2024 9:40 am

hamarse pallyweirdos – the fattest famine victims in human history

They’ve run out of room to store all the food.

Hamas Has More “Humanitarian Aid” Than It Knows What To Do With (14 Sep)

In the recordings of radio conversations, one operative says, “We have trucks overflowing with goods.” The second operative declines the offer, saying “we have everything. In the meantime, we have no room in the stores.” He then suggests they send the goods to Khan Younis.

Meanwhile UNRWA is feeling unloved. I’m blackly amused given how many of their employees were Hamas guys.

m0nty
m0nty
September 15, 2024 9:43 am

Proud Boys marching in Springfield. What was that about no pogroms?

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 15, 2024 9:46 am

The Daily Mail article about Welcome to Country has only one comment showing and it has 711 likes as I write.

If you look at the comments area you can actually see how many people are typing comments. Perhaps the moderator not approved them yet but an article to watch as might be a sudden surge of comments going up.

Miltonf
Miltonf
September 15, 2024 9:47 am

Clr Elmore is passionate about Cumberland…

A most overused word

Miltonf
Miltonf
September 15, 2024 9:55 am

Pope Francis: ‘All Religions Are a Path to Reach God’ (breitbart.com)

Cranky Frankie (nasty old turd) seems to be the Catholic version of Huxley’s Arch Community Songster.

The current creep in Canterbury seems to show Huxley got it right and much sooner than predicted in Brave New World.

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Rosie
Rosie
September 15, 2024 9:55 am

“an organized massacre of a particular ethnic group, in particular that of Jewish people in Russia or eastern Europe in the late 19th and early 20th centuries”
Noticing that Monty has nothing to say about Nigerian Christians be slaughtered by Muslims in ‘organised massacres’
Why is that?

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 15, 2024 9:55 am

So why were they brought here? Shep is a pretty depressing place I agree and it reminds me of Wendouree.

From what I heard cheap labour and businesses thought they’d increase business not take them over, employ only their own and sell to only their own. Try getting 2nd hand parts for cars round that way, they won’t even serve you unless you are middle eastern. Also a raft of government subsidies from RGR that dried up later.

Seymour had bitter experience with the ungrateful Kosovars, I had already left home working in Brisbane but dad was on the cusp of retirement and mum worked on the base. I heard first hand what they were like and that businesses in Seymour were banning Kosovars from their premises. Goes that’s why they said na to the Sud’s.

cohenite
September 15, 2024 9:57 am

m0nty
 September 15, 2024 9:43 am

Proud Boys marching in Springfield. What was that about no pogroms?

Dickless salivates at some good old boys being patriotic. Poor old dickless is jealous because those boys have dicks.

Rabz
September 15, 2024 9:59 am

Clr Elmore is passionate about Cumberbland…

But the passion is no longer reciprocated.

Well deserved obscurity awaits, you political whore.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 15, 2024 9:59 am

I’ll remind Monty of the event I mentioned to him since it was so gloriously hilarious at the time.

Feds in Khaki Pants March in DC (2021)

If you read an earlier take here, you know that a group of about 200 men wearing matching hats, blue jackets, and khaki pants marched in Washington, D.C., on Saturday. They marched around D.C. monuments then disappeared. It was absurd theater.

So it is just so amazingly amazing that the FBI is putting up Creole signs saying “report hate crimes” (see Mole’s comment) and entirely coincidentally a bunch of not-at-all-glowies are suddenly doing a march in Springfield.

The panic on the Left about this pet story is wonderfully entertaining!

Miltonf
Miltonf
September 15, 2024 10:00 am

Yeah interesting, car parts is def a middle eastern thing.

cohenite
September 15, 2024 10:02 am
Rosie
Rosie
September 15, 2024 10:03 am

Shepparton is a welfare town with huge social problems.
Did you forget about all the fairly recent incidents at the Secondary college.
Also linked to a grooming gang a while back.
But great some Somalis do a bit of seasonal work.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05-23/forced-marriage-shepparton-perth-guilty/103885642

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 15, 2024 10:08 am

Yeah interesting, car parts is def a middle eastern thing.

My 2c worth, remembering the towies & panel beaters links to mafia of older times I wouldn’t be surprised if there an element of organised crime involved as well.

Roger
Roger
September 15, 2024 10:08 am

Trump on God: Moralistic Deism

Trump: rejection of religion is the reason for social decay

Rod Lampard, The Spectator (Australia), 13 September 2024

Donald J. Trump’s theological acumen goes about as far as an M1A1 tank being driven into deep water. No one can fairly fault the former President for how he stumbles over questions about God, faith, Church, and State. Theology isn’t his thing. Trump is campaigning for President, not interviewing to be a pastor. This said, there are times, when the former President manages to skim that heavy M1A1 across the water, answering a theology question like a pro.

He recently told scientist turned podcaster, Lex Fridman:

‘If you’re religious, you have, I think a better feeling towards your own mortality. You’re supposed to go to heaven, ideally, not hell – but you’re supposed to go to heaven if you’re good.’

Trump was answering Fridman’s questions about death, and how often the former President thought about being here one minute and gone the next.

‘I have a friend who’s very, very successful,’ Trump continued. ‘He’s in his 80s, mid-80s, and he asked me that exact same question. I turned it around and I said, “Well, what about you?” He said, “I think about it every minute of every day.”’

Unprompted, Trump discussed his views on faith, adding a lament about the erosion of restraint.

‘I think our country is missing a lot of religion,’ he said.

‘I think the United States really was a much better place with religion. It was almost a guide. To a certain extent it was a guide. You want to be good to people.’

The former President and 2024 Republican candidate then concluded, ‘Without religion there are no guardrails. I’d love to see us get back to religion, more religion in this country.’

As Trump has explained, his eldest brother’s addictions influenced the former, and potentially future, President’s moral compass.

Consequently, Trump rejects drugs, alcohol, and cigarettes, with a raw ferocity reminiscent of Johnny Cash preaching on stage next to Billy Graham.

In something I once summarised as his 8-point guide to the dad-life, Trump’s kids view him as a normal dad with an abnormal public life.

Don Jnr and Ivanka credited Trump’s guidance for ‘keeping them from becoming train wrecks, like the children of other famous public figures’.

‘None of us are saints. We all like to have fun,’ Ivanka explained. ‘I think our parents have just been pretty tough with us. They’ve always made sure that we lived within some realm of reality.’

This is not a carefully scripted publicity stunt.

Neither is it an appeal to the ‘religious right’.

Trump’s consistency here is genuine, and well-documented.

What does Trump mean by religion?

He means moralism – albeit, mixed with a small salute to God’s objective morality and a hint of nostalgia for church-going, Biblical literacy.

Moralism aside, Trump’s lament at America’s loss of Biblical restraint is on the right track.

The late great R.C Sproul once explained freedom as natural ability and moral ability.

Post-fall humanity remains naturally free, ‘but is morally enslaved’.

Building on Jonathan Edwards’ and Augustine’s framework for freedom, Sproul said, post-fall ‘man lacks the moral disposition, the desire, or the inclination for righteousness’.

While humans still have free will, we’re ‘morally predisposed’ to abuse liberty, because we’ve lost ‘something profoundly vital to moral freedom’.

‘Appetite for sin’ corrupts free will, because men and women are not ‘totally free in the moral sense’.

Moral failure isn’t because of too much freedom, it’s because humanity has lost the moral freedom that once co-existed alongside natural freedom.

Freedom is the ability to choose what we want, therefore, desire and disposition have to be governed, and the ‘mechanism for sin’ restrained.

‘God’s sovereignty does not extinguish that [free will] dimension of human personality, but certainly rules over it.’

Trump blaming the rejection of religion for social decline has merit.

It’s either Christ or chaos.

To paraphrase Chuck Colson, humanity’s moral compass has lost its truth north.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 15, 2024 10:09 am

Bruce, surely you arent spreading “disinformation” that the prod chaps march might be a glowie effort?

Why that would be unheard of in US politics.

Fake terror plots, paid informants: the tactics of FBI ‘entrapment’ questioned

shatterzzz
September 15, 2024 10:09 am

Sydney’s most popular mayors are independent Frank Carbone – who comfortably retained the top job at Fairfield with almost 80 per cent

He does a decent job, overall, but does has a tendency to be biased towards ethnics on specific “people” issues .. Lotza “Sgt Schultz” involving Council by-laws .. Especially with rubbish on footpaths and park-where-you-like issues …….
Still, he’s a professional trougher and with, probably, 70% of Fairfield ethnic he knows how to keep in with the voteherd ……

Arky
September 15, 2024 10:09 am

m0nty

 September 15, 2024 9:43 am

Proud Boys marching in Springfield. What was that about no pogroms?

..
I guess when it starts to dawn on a person that Dick Cheney and all the Bushes love your gal, but Kennedy and Tulsi back Trump, you will grab any old bollocks to try to salve the brain dissonance.
The democrats became everything you said you hated, Trump took the ordinary working classes away, all that’s left for you is crazy woke and the warmongering, failed new world order mob.
The democrats and their supporters really have become a basket of deplorables.

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Indolent
Indolent
September 15, 2024 10:10 am

This is an analysis of the Kamala post debate interview on ABC by Barry Cunningham, who I have never heard of before, which was posted some six hours ago and has had well over 400,000 views and about 8,500 comments.

The Kamala Harris Presidential Campaign Is OFFICIALLY OVER After This Interview!

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 15, 2024 10:10 am

Link here.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/nov/16/fbi-entrapment-fake-terror-plots

But in its commonly understood usage, FBI entrapment is a widespread tactic. Within days of the 9/11 terror attacks, FBI director Robert Mueller issued a memo on a new policy of “forward leaning – preventative – prosecutions”.

JC
JC
September 15, 2024 10:14 am

The Kamala Harris Presidential Campaign Is OFFICIALLY OVER After This Interview!

As someone said. There are two wings in the Kamaltoe campaign. Those that don’t want her to do any interviews and those that that do. Those that do won on this occasion and those that don’t were vindicated.

lotocoti
lotocoti
September 15, 2024 10:14 am

Next week in the New York Times:
Our Top Five Fast and Flavorsome Cat Recipes.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 15, 2024 10:15 am

Just got in car for short trip. 4BC playing the clip from AFL Welcome to Country and host not impressed with the lecture given.

JC
JC
September 15, 2024 10:19 am

Monst:

I saw this joke and thought of you.

It’s hot out here! It was 118° in the Valley. I was sweating like Fatboy at a donut shop.

bons
bons
September 15, 2024 10:19 am

How hilarious. Western Sydney pets are eating their Labor owners.

Albanese will compound the negative effect by dumping Australia’s interests in favour of winning his grubby little western Sydney kasbahs. He is lost.

Good to see that the ABC has finally won it’s fully owned electorate of Byron Bay.

cohenite
September 15, 2024 10:21 am

Dickless supporting the suds as well as the haitians. Black boys have big dicks so no surprise that dickless supports the big black boys.

Some relevant facts about the suds:

Sudanese top for crime charges Sudanese-born people are 67 times more likely to be charged with aggravated robbery and 55 times more likely to be charged with riot and affray in Victoria than those born elsewhere, ­according to analysis released yesterday by the state’s Crime Statistics Agency.

Also memorable was fatty Ashton’s advice to Victorian suckers/citizens: don’t defend yourselves; just do what they tell you to do.

My own experience with black immigrants at the gym is that the suds are arrogant shitheads who are typically good in gangs but not so good by themselves. Alternatively the stocky east Africans are good blokes.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 15, 2024 10:22 am

4BC playing the clip from AFL Welcome to Country

If one gets paid (and handsomely) to welcome other people to country they consider theirs, then it’s not really a welcome.

No, not at all.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 15, 2024 10:24 am

For those that know..

ravenloft-trump
Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 15, 2024 10:27 am

mUnter, when the Horn of Africa people move in next door:

‘But…… but you’re bleck’.*

*h/t Lethal Weapon II

Miltonf
Miltonf
September 15, 2024 10:28 am

Yeah quite a few Africans (not Somalis or Suds afaik) belong to my gym and they are generally pretty courteous if a little reserved.

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Miltonf
Miltonf
September 15, 2024 10:30 am

It’s a very yo bro sorta place

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 15, 2024 10:31 am

In The Plot Thickens news:

More bomb threats hit Springfield, Ohio, after Trump elevates false claims about Haitians

On Friday, a Springfield woman, Erika Lee, apologized for rumors about Haitian immigrants eating pets that resulted from a post she wrote on Facebook claiming that the friend of a neighbor’s daughter lost her cat – and then found the animal strung up outside the home of a Haitian family.

Lee now says she had no firsthand knowledge of the claim. The neighbor referenced in the post, Kimberly Newton, revealed that she also had heard the story from an acquaintance and not her daughter.

Lee said she was filled with regret and insists she never intended to put a target on the backs of the Haitian community.

“I’m not a racist,” Lee said, adding that her daughter is half-Black and she herself is mixed race as well as a member of the LGBTQ+ community. “Everybody seems to be turning it into that – and that was not my intent.”

Bomb threats? More bomb threats?
Could only possibly come from the vast hoards of White Supremacists parading downtown Springfield like lethal panthers.

Shirley there’s an DOJ/FBI incitement charge pending for Trump.

Presumably Mx Lee is in witness protection.

Roger
Roger
September 15, 2024 10:35 am

How hilarious. Western Sydney pets are eating their Labor owners.

Pay that!

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 15, 2024 10:37 am

Axial movements, of both the earth and the sun, introduce instability into that ‘regular’ eliptical solar system we learned about a children, just as the excellent artice at 10.11 suggests.

How else to explain the major ice ages, and the movement in and out of them? In the face of this, minor variations in this planet’s climate in the interglacials seem fairly small beer, related to smaller variations in the sun’s reach or to the sun’s own sunspot factors. What is clear is that factors on earth, things that disturb the earth’s atmosphere, such as volcanic erruptions, or things that are the after-effects on landforms of the melting ice, explain some past historic variations in regional climates (‘earth’s’ climate, if you must). These are not related in any meaningful way to CO variations, the anthropogenic component of which is very small indeed even in recent times. Oceanic cycles affecting water vapour (cloud formations) seem the more likely culprits for any cyclical variations noted.

We need to be thankful for warmth, not fear it, for cold is what the black darkness of space is all about. No wonder ancient peoples put their faith in the sun, as a ‘light bringer’, as god and creator. No surprise either that human societies became shattered and often religiously changed when normal solar activity became abnormal, as in circa 1500bc or 536ad, both periods when Volcanic winter dimmed the sun world-wide.

King Arthur, a sun god if ever there was one (as I have argued in Quadrant, 2018), is said by religious annalists to have ‘died’ in 536ad. He was by no means the only sun god to have a hard time then either, nor earlier. During the 1500bc period, in Egypt, after a major volcanic tsunami, the sun god Ahkenaten rose as a lone monotheistic sun god, for a brief period destroying Egyptian polytheism. Even the Roman Emperor Constantine, who favoured Christianity, took his time about that, giving credence initially to a Sol Invictus – an unconquered ‘unconquerable’ sun god, aligned with the Persian Mithras. I find it interestng that the Invictus title was also applied to the Roman gods Jupiter, Mars, Hercules, Apollo and Silvanus – all what I call ‘aspect’ gods, deities respectively of fatherhood, war, strength, beauty and nature – but sometimes sun deities too, especially Mars, Apollo and Silvanus.

Lawgi Dawes-Hall
Lawgi Dawes-Hall
September 15, 2024 10:39 am

Word find.

Tetter (n.) vague name for skin diseases characterized by scabby eruption or scaling (ringworm, eczema, herpes), Middle English teter, from Old English teter, from a reduplicated form of PIE root *der- “to split, flay, peel.”

Example of usage: “He [Napoleon] is covered with tetter, a disease of such a sort as to increase his vehemence and his activity.”

JC
JC
September 15, 2024 10:39 am

There’s an advertisement circulating online (quite a lot), urging Americans living abroad to vote by mail or even email. I suspect it’s a scheme by the Demo to inflate the vote count.
It doesn’t appear to be difficult to use

Here.

Roger
Roger
September 15, 2024 10:46 am

“I’m not a racist,” Lee said, adding that her daughter is half-Black and she herself is mixed race as well as a member of the LGBTQ+ community. 

The 21st C. identipol equivalent of “Some of my best friends are black, but…”

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Makka
Makka
September 15, 2024 10:51 am

Alternatively the stocky east Africans are good blokes.

The benefits of their terrible colonial past, often with Christian upbringing,schools and good command of English.

Whereas the Suds (mostly Southies here) come from horrifically violent , tribal voodoo like backgrounds , preying on anything and anyone their thug gangs can overcome.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 15, 2024 10:54 am

From Indolent’s link on the Cat memes taking over the internet:

it’s just everywhere because it captured somehting A LOT of people wanted to say but could not. and what are the dems supposed to do?

if they ignore it, it thrives and they look scared, but if they try to refute it, they just add fuel to the fire and keep the conversation on a topic on which they cannot win.
and once started, the discourse all flows one way.
apparently, the guy who made this remix from the debate is now having a melt down because it was intended to malign trump and instead has been adopted as a MAGA and immigration reform rallying cry.
sorry amigo, but the internet decides what things are for, not you.
it was meant as critique.
it turns out this is “meowsländer raus.”

and every time someone says “no, they did not eat a cat!” not only is it likely not true, but the obvious pivot is to “perhaps, but they did kill my auntie in a home invasion” or “OK, but they have overwhelmed schools, are beating on local kids, and have displaced low income americans in housing because the feds are paying top dollar for landlords to kick you out and put them up.” oh, and let’s not forget “voter fraud.”

once you have engaged with the immigration issue, the whole of the issue is on the table. and it’s not a great look for the politicos.

Roger
Roger
September 15, 2024 11:04 am

The Rise of the Western Nuclear Family and the “European Miracle”

Ryan McMaken, Mises Wire, 13/09/2024

It’s now been nearly 35 years since E.L. Jones first published his watershed book The European Miracle. Jones’s history of Europe’s economic development examined the reasons why Europe—a comparatively poor and backward part of the world in the Middle Ages—somehow became the wealthiest and most productive place on earth in the nineteenth century. The fundamental question remains: why did Europe surpass other civilizations1such as Islam and China—which had once been much richer than the west?

According to Jones, a major factor in Europe’s drive to economic prominence was the high degree of economic freedom. As Jones puts it: “Economic development in its European form required above all freedom from arbitrary political acts concerning private property.” Or, as historian Ralph Raico concluded, Europe’s industrialization was closely connected to the fact that “the economy achieved a degree of autonomy unknown elsewhere in the world except for brief periods.”

This, of course, raises the question of why Europeans enjoyed higher levels of economic freedom. As Raico shows in his work on late antiquity and the Middle Ages, Europe’s political institutions were different from anywhere else, thanks largely to the unique position of the Western Church as a rival and competitor against the civil power. Consequently, no single state or polity was able to consolidate power across the region. Ongoing rivalries between the Church, various kings, and countless private “corporate” organizations further solidified a decentralized political structure in which various groups jealously guarded their property and economic interests from the grasping hands of princes and legislators.

But there’s even more to it than that. Another institution at the core of the story of the European miracle is the family, and specifically the European nuclear family. We find that specific European factors led to growing numbers of nuclear families which, in turn, supported the rise of Europe’s private “corporate” organizations that fueled Europe’s ecosystem of decentralized, diverse, and private organizations.

One notable characteristic of Western Europe after the Early Middle Ages is an unusually high proportion of nuclear families. Outside Western Europe, so-called “stem families” and “joint families” were more common. In these two family types, grown children and elderly adults more commonly lived together, and the creation of new households was less common than in areas with nuclear families. In joint families, large extended families could be found living together in close proximity or even on a single estate. (One variation of this model is the Roman ideal of the “pater familias.”)

In the case of stem families, most of the grown children leave to start new households while one of the children—often the oldest son—remained living with the elderly parents in anticipation of inheriting the parent’s land or business.

The historical extended families, and the clan structures that accompanied them, went into relative decline during the Middle Ages in Europe. The resulting rise in prevalence of nuclear families appears to have been encouraged by economic factors and also by religious factors tied to the Catholic Church.

According to economic historian Avner Greif, the Catholic Church in the early Middle Ages “instituted marriage laws and practices that undermined kinship groups.” Polygamy, concubinage, divorce and remarriage we all discouraged, and this worked to limit the overall size of families. Moreover, the Church restricted “consanguineous” marriages—generally marriages among first cousins or other close relatives. The Church also required that women explicitly consent to their marriages. These latter two factors did much to curtail the power of patriarchs and patriarchs of large families who might seek to consolidate their power through arranged marriages and marriages among cousins.

Over time, this all encouraged a proliferation of nuclear families, and Greif notes:

By the late medieval period … the nuclear family was dominant. Even among the Germanic tribes, by the eighth century the term “family” denoted one’s immediate family and, shortly afterwards, tribes were no longer institutionally relevant.

This created a need for new organizations to replace the old services offered by extended families. That is, individual nuclear families are generally unable to provide their own means of settling disputes and fostering economic exchange beyond the immediate family. Clans and tribes often provide these resources. So, in order to replace what had once been offered by family networks, groups of families participated in the creation of “corporations.”

These were not the corporations we today associate with joint-stock companies. These organizations were “voluntary, interest-based, self-governed, and intentionally created permanent associations. In many cases, they were self-organized and not established by the state.” These included the Church itself, but also monastic orders, universities, the Italian city-states, urban communes, militias, and merchant guilds. All actively sought to protect their own commercial interests in Europe’s various legal institutions.

Moreover, whatever their provenance, these corporations tended to think of their own interests as distinct from the interests of the prince or civil power. The corporations thus acted as yet another institutional brake on state power. As Raico shows, Europe’s decentralized political power—and the accompanying protections for private property—grew out of complex legal environment of contracts, rights, and other legal considerations forced upon princes and civil authorities by the demands of these corporate groups. Thus, Europe came to be home to political and legal philosophies respecting the idea of “mine and thine” rather than the idea that all belongs to the prince or the collective. 

Of course, the rise of nuclear families was not only the result of Church reforms. Economic and ideological factors were significant as well. Greif notes that Europeans were more accepting of relatively high levels of individualism—which he claims stemmed from earlier Greek, Roman, and Germanic ideals.

Economic realities also affected the shift in family types. 

The Black Death was one factor. As one pair of historians put it in 2013, “By killing between a third and half of the European population, it [the Black Plague] raised land-labor ratios.” Moreover, Christopher Dyer notes “Unskilled workers’ wages rose more rapidly than those of the skilled after 1349, a sure indication of a labour shortage…” It thus became easier to create new, economically viable household under these conditions.

By the sixteenth century, wages were also rising due to increases in urbanization, new forms of wage work, and new economic opportunities that came with proto-industrialization. 

Rising economic opportunities did not, however, erase the desire among nuclear family groups to further pursue economic and social opportunities through corporations that provided critical services to member families. Over the long term, as Greif concludes, these corporations contributed to the economic growth of Europe by streamlining greater economic exchange, developing a reliable legal framework, and by fostering trust among non-kin groups. These benefits accrued to Europeans also in how the corporations limited state power—a key factor in the European miracle, according to Jones.

Unfortunately, the rise of new political ideologies and movements in Europe eventually destroyed many independent, non-state corporations while bringing many others under the control of states. Mercantilism, absolutism, and nationalism, for instance, all weakened or destroyed the non-state corporations by promoting the consolidation of state power. As Murray Rothbard notes about the rise of the French absolutist state:

The sixteenth century French legalists also systematically tore down the legal rights of all corporations or organizations which, in the Middle Ages, had stood between the individual and the state. There were no longer any intermediary or feudal authorities. The king is absolute over these intermediaries, and makes or breaks them at will. Thus, as one historian sums up Chasseneux’s view: “All jurisdiction, said Chasseneux, pertains to the supreme authority of the prince; no man may have jurisdiction except through the ruler’s concession and permission. The authority to create magistrates thus belongs to the prince alone; all offices and dignities flow and are derived from him as from a fountain.”

By the late nineteenth century, the free corporations—once tools of the rising tide of nuclear families in the late Middle Ages and Early Modern Period—had become essentially adjuncts of states.

Nonetheless, by then, Europeans for centuries had benefited from the economic growth and political decentralization fostered by these organizations. Even today, we continue to benefit from their important contributions to the European miracle.

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Anders
Anders
September 15, 2024 11:19 am

Why don’t they import all of the population of Haiti into the US – as soon as they cross the border they all transform into upstanding wonderful hardworking citizens – then immediately return them to Haiti and fix Haiti’s problems. Because apparently there’s some kind of magical process where anyone who crosses into the West suddenly discards all the problems of their previous culture and society and become lovely industrious people.

Makka
Makka
September 15, 2024 11:21 am

By the late medieval period … the nuclear family was dominant. Even among the Germanic tribes, by the eighth century the term “family” denoted one’s immediate family and, shortly afterwards, tribes were no longer institutionally relevant.

Which explains why m0ron’s tribe is so intent on destroying this foundation of our civilisation. Specifically by getting at the kids. Evil doers, all of them.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 15, 2024 11:24 am

The big take out from ‘that debate’ a month or so down the track is only going to be that Trump pointed out that 20K of immigrants wrecked a community of 60k by ‘eating people’s pets, eating cats and dogs’. Who remembers anything at all that Kamala said?

Vicki
Vicki
September 15, 2024 11:26 am

Outsiders is nearly unwatchable when the three hosts (especially Rowan Dean) talk over the top of each other. Not good television.

They were pretty bad this morning. We should all write to them.

LB2
LB2
September 15, 2024 11:36 am

Explainer:

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Morsie
Morsie
September 15, 2024 11:46 am

Mate had his car stolen this week.Yojng African guys broke in took the keys while he and wife and kids were upstairs.
The miscreants are obviously scared of the police as evidenced by their online posts showing what they had stolen.
Car dumped and recovered but thrashed.Insurer will write if off.
Cops can’t seem to find them despite the online posts

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 15, 2024 11:59 am

The Ig Nobel Prizes are always awesome.

Backside breathing and pigeon bombers studies win Ig Nobel prizes (Phys.org, 14 Sep)

If, in hospital, a nurse shoves an oxygen line up your anus you now know why.

m0nty
m0nty
September 15, 2024 11:59 am

some good old boys being patriotic

As usual cohenite is right behind the Nazi putsch.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 15, 2024 12:07 pm

Seems if you don’t like something and say so then you are Nazi.

m0nty
m0nty
September 15, 2024 12:08 pm

The big take out from ‘that debate’ a month or so down the track is only going to be that Trump pointed out that 20K of immigrants wrecked a community of 60k by ‘eating people’s pets, eating cats and dogs’.

Yep Lizzie, Trump’s campaign has all the momentum of George Wallace in 1968.

cohenite
September 15, 2024 12:12 pm

Week in Culture:

THIS WEEK IN CULTURE 203 (rumble.com)

Great opening scene with Trump; then goes down hill rapidly. Did you know Abraham Lincoln was gay?

cohenite
September 15, 2024 12:13 pm

As usual cohenite is right behind the Nazi putsch.

That is Herr cohenite to you dickless.

Rosie
Rosie
September 15, 2024 12:26 pm

Monty is correct. All immigrants are wonderful and anyone who doesn’t agree is a pogroming nazi.
https://x.com/GadSaad/status/1835083919361798617?t=c9VAhQiuGVwUUOzut68_cg&s=19

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 15, 2024 12:50 pm

Daily Mail put up the Welcome to Country article but with 6 only comments I think we can safely say they either have no moderators on or are suppressing the comments.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 15, 2024 1:00 pm

Hey FatBoy

How many Haitians were murdered, assaulted, or expelled from their homes in the Great Springfield Pogrom and riot of September 2024?

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Rosie
Rosie
September 15, 2024 1:05 pm
thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 15, 2024 1:10 pm

Footage of Monty, convincing the Dems hes useful to them…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgHXHtHSsNo

Vicki
Vicki
September 15, 2024 1:10 pm

Karine Jean-Pierre, the White House Press Secretary was born in Fort-de-France, Martinique, France, the daughter of Haitian immigrants. She has two younger siblings, and was age five when her family relocated to Queens Village, a neighborhood in Queens, New York City.

Interesting.

JC
JC
September 15, 2024 1:26 pm

Blainey is just great in this piece. What a contribution from a tiny minority.

Ominous protest marches raise the question: Has social cohesion in Australia ever been in such peril?

Geoffrey Blainey

12:00AMSeptember 14, 2024.

Few of us in Australia understand the distinguished role played by the Jews in the history of our nation. They are even dismissed by many critics as late arrivals, but at least six sailed here with the First Fleet in 1788, arriving not as merchants but as convicts.

One fact is almost beyond dispute, though that fact is ignored in today’s atmosphere of fierce dispute. In proportion to its population, no other ethnic or religious group has contributed so much to Australia. Indeed, Jews have been criticised or condemned partly ­because as a people they are so ­successful in this land.

Rubbish bins burn on Spencer St, Melbourne, this week ahead of clashes between anti-war activists and police around the Land Forces International Defence Expo. Picture: Darrian Traynor/Getty Images

Jews became noticeable in public life earlier in Australia than in most other countries. Even as early as 1840 they had the same right to sit in legislative bodies as did members of mainstream churches. And in the course of time they also commanded enough respect, when they stood for parliament, to attract large numbers of Christian voters.

It is remarkable that a Jewish merchant held a seat in the local legislature in Western Australia in 1849. That was nine years before a Jew could even stand for a seat in the House of Commons at Westminster. The colonial Jew was ­Lionel Samson, a Fremantle merchant, and he was a nominee member of the WA Legislative Council in all but three years during a period of 18 years. In contrast, in Britain no Jew sat in the House of Lords until Lord Rothschild became a member in 1885.

Towards the end of the 19th century, Jewish politicians became household names in certain Australian cities, though not in Sydney. In the first federal parliament, meeting in Melbourne in 1901, at least four of the total of 108 members in the two houses were Jews. Two were Victorians, Isaac Isaacs and Pharez Phillips. And yet the Jews, if a population quota were enforced by law, would have been allowed or assigned only one half of one member in that parliament.

Sir Isaac Isaacs, governor-general of Australia (1931-1936).

Three decades later, in 1930, Sir Isaac Isaacs, the son of a migrant tailor, was appointed the governor-general. He became our Number One Citizen when probably no other country in Europe and the Americas so honoured a Jewish inhabitant. Another talented Jew, the Melbourne law professor Sir Zelman Cowen, was to become governor-general. Yet another, Lord Casey, is said to be a descendant of John Harris, a Jewish convict who was transported here for stealing eight silver tablespoons.

A local Jew admired internationally was Sir John Monash, the soldier. Born in Melbourne in 1865, soon after the arrival of his German-speaking parents, he studied at a primary school that stood just a short walk from the Melbourne Cricket Ground and then attended a rural school in the small NSW town of Jerilderie. There his father ran a small shop. Maybe one third of the big emporiums in Australia in the following century were to be founded by Jews.

After the Monash family returned to live in Melbourne, the young John studied at Scotch College where he became equal dux. A “bookworm”, easily identified by his dark curly hair, he had that kind of mind which tackled almost any subject that was mentally challenging. At Melbourne University – then possessing only a few hundred students – he starred in engineering before earning other degrees. He became a pioneer in reinforced concrete, and many bridges and buildings were his work.

As a volunteer soldier in WWI, Monash sailed to the Middle East and at the age of 50 was one of the commanders at Gallipoli. There the experienced British officers held the highest posts but it soon became apparent that the observant Monash was the more likely to advance the art of warfare.

On the battlefields of France, experiencing the huge daily casualties caused by heavy artillery and machine guns, he was one of the few generals who developed a new kind of attacking warfare: he exploited the latest petrol-driven inventions such as aircraft and armoured tanks. His aim was “to advance under the maximum possible protection of the maximum possible array of mechanical resources, in the form of guns, machineguns, tanks, mortars and aeroplanes”.

This array of weapons would risk fewer lives and at the same time capture far more ground from the enemy.

Commanding a large army of Australian and American soldiers, he achieved major victories against the Germans in 1918. In the eyes of certain observers he was the most innovative of all the Allies’ generals. He was even hailed as the soldier who virtually won the war, though the long British naval blockade, by depriving Germany of imported foods, was probably just as important in achieving victory.

Sir John Monash died in 1931 and his death in Melbourne attracted probably the largest crowd ever seen at an Australian funeral.

Perhaps Australia’s second most famous Jew during Monash’s lifetime was Professor Samuel Alexander. A St Kilda boy, he was brought up by his widowed mother. From nearby Wesley College and Melbourne University, when just a teenager, he migrated in the mid-1870s to England, becoming the world’s first Jew to win a fellowship at an Oxford or Cambridge college.

In his heyday, Sam preferred a chair of philosophy at Manchester than at any other European university, and that city was proud of him and his eccentricities, his loyalty and even his renowned book Space, Time and Deity, the two volumes of which were so learned that naturally they were not devoured by local readers. He was the first Australian to be awarded the prestigious Order of Merit by the king.

In Manchester, the celebrated cricket writer Neville Cardus, recalling in his autobiography the ­famous people he had personally met, named Don Bradman the Australian cricketer and Samuel Alexander – the “greatest of contemporary metaphysicians, a figure out of the Old Testament, a more genial Moses”, though so absent-minded.

Pro-Israel counter-protesters gathered at the other side of University of Sydney’s campus during pro-Palestine encampment rally held at the same time. Picture: Britta Campion

Anti-Semitism existed in Australia in this time but it was also accompanied in various towns and cities by respect for Jews. Many such families, rarely noticed in the history books, are fascinating.

The Solomon brothers – Emanuel and Vaiben – arrived in Tasmania as teenage convicts in 1818. Accused of stealing clothing, they had been sentenced in Durham to transportation. Having served their seven years, they returned to the clothing trade – the legal side of it – and sewed clothes for Sydneysiders and then became auctioneers and exporters of wool. In Adelaide in 1840, Emanuel opened a theatre called The Queen’s. Too large for a rising but smallish town, it was converted into the main law court. What a windfall toward respectability for this enterprising family.

A founder of the Adelaide synagogue, Emanuel himself won seats in the South Australian parliament, and later a relative sat in the first federal parliament that met in Melbourne in 1901.

There, in Collins Street, another branch of the family was already well established, its convict origins largely forgotten. Thus, Michael Cashmore, a draper, had been the first president of Melbourne’s synagogue, an elected member of the municipal council, and a governor in what is now the Athenaeum Library. A young member of this ever-growing Melbourne family played in 1858 in the first recorded football match of Australian Rules football, and another was in the Australian athletics team at the Olympic Games in Rome just over a century later. The ups and downs of these families can be read in Trevor Cohen’s book The Greatest Gift: A 200-year chronicle of my Australian Jewish Family.

Sam Pisar survived three concentration camps before landing in Port Melbourne as a lone migrant. Picture: Michelle Bracken for The Washington Post/Getty Images

In the 1930s, the tensions in Europe and the rise of Nazi Germany dramatically expanded the Jewish population of Australia without raising it to anywhere near 1 per cent. After WWII, in the huge communist-controlled zone in eastern Europe, oppression again expanded the Jewish outflow. So many of our big names in finance and commerce came from this wave of immigration, spread mainly over the 20 years from 1936 to 1955. Notable Jewish families included the Abeles, Adlers, Blooms, Finks, Gandels, Lowys, Pratts, and at least a dozen more. Whereas the Scots were the main philan­thropists in Australia in the 19th century, the Jews have now taken their place.

Many new arrivals had escaped the Holocaust – that most terrifying event of the 20th century. Samuel Pisar was such a migrant. Born in 1929 in a German-speaking city in the new-born Poland, Sam was not yet a teenager when the Gestapo shot his father and despatched his mother into the gas ovens.

Somehow Sam, miraculously surviving three concentration camps, landed in Port Melbourne as a lone migrant. Learning more English at Taylors Business College, he became a persuasive debater at Queen’s College in Melbourne University, speaking in a language largely new to him. He excelled as a law student before travelling to Harvard, where he ­repeated his success.

In the United States, Sam began to shine as a minor adviser to president John F. Kennedy, and later in his long-term Paris home he was a big-name lawyer and consultant for Elizabeth Taylor, Robert Maxwell and Steve Jobs. Impressive as a mediator in the Cold War, he described the nuclear arms race as a kind of “planetary gas chamber”.

A name now in the daily global-news is Antony Blinken, who is the Secretary of State under President Joe Biden. When aged only nine, Antony Blinken had become Sam’s stepson and increasingly his political pupil. In major wartime speeches televised this year from Jerusalem, Washington and other cities, Blinken can be sometimes heard praising his late stepfather, the brilliant Sam. In sporting Sydney, Sam is remembered too, for he quietly helped that city win the right to stage the 2000 Olympic Games.

The increasing dispute between Jews and Muslims has weakened social cohesion in this nation. Picture: NCA NewsWire / Jeremy Piper

While the post-war Jews were so influential, they were increasingly surpassed in numbers by Muslims. Back in 1900 Muslims had minimal influence on the country. As late as the census of 1991, they still had less than 1 per cent of the nation’s population.

Today, in contrast, Muslims form about 3.3 per cent of the nation’s people and are at least eight times as numerous as Jews. As their birthrate is very high, the Muslim proportion of the population will continue to grow. Even if their level of immigration slows they will possibly reach 10 per cent of the population sometime this century. For the first time they have definite political influence: the present federal Labor ministry has two Muslims, and Labor’s foreign policy, especially towards the Middle East war, shows signs of uneasiness towards Israel.

In any case, large numbers of Australians are increasingly sympathetic to the Muslims in Gaza though they are not supporters of mainstream Islamic attitudes towards women, abortion, and homosexuality.

Meanwhile the Jewish population in Australia is alarmed at the level of anti-Semitism – and sometimes the terrorist threats – they now have to face in daily life.

All arguments in time of war or crisis have to be examined with care. But at present there are strong reasons why Australia should be sympathetic to the Jews in its midst. Jews should be supported because kinsfolk in their own homeland, ­Israel, were ruthlessly attacked on October 7 last year and because so many, dead or alive, remain ­captive.

That Israel is a democracy offers another reason why Jews should receive carefully considered support. Above all, Jews have, in proportion to their numbers, been remarkable contributors to the ­success of Australia.

Meanwhile, the increasing dispute between Jews and Muslims has weakened social cohesion in this nation. So long as the war in the Middle East continues, our social cohesion is likely to be diminished. Ominous were the protest marches and anti-Israel riots which on Wednesday in Melbourne were described by the Police Association as “some of the most violent” seen in decades. In all, 27 policemen were injured.

Protest marches and anti-Israel riots in Melbourne this week were described as ‘some of the most violent’ seen in decades. Picture: David Crosling

Another question is now nervously asked. Has social cohesion in Australia been previously in such peril? My own view is that on at least two occasions it has been ­definitely more endangered than at present.

The first was in 1916-17 – at a delicate phase in WWI – when the nation was divided on the question of whether young Australian men should be conscripted to fight against the Germans on the Western Front.

The second time was in the world depression. In 1932, the unemployment rate probably was just over 30 per cent, social welfare was haphazard, and political solutions proved inadequate.

Possibly a third time was in 1940-41 when Nazi Germany was in triumph and the mighty French army was trounced but a large body of Australian opinion did not yet realise the peril. Even parliament in Canberra itself was deeply divided.

Of course, social cohesion consists of various factors, none of which is easily measured. Human memory is also fickle. The high casualties from the fighting in Gaza are quoted, though often the cause is often disputed, but hardly a mention is made of the massive death toll in a recent war.

The Great War of the Persian Gulf lasted from 1980 to 1988 and its dead and wounded, exceeding 1.4 million, utterly dwarf the casualties arising so far from the present war in the Middle East. Another fact has also been largely forgotten. That long and terrible war had been fought between Iraq and Iran – two enemies fighting a feud that arose inside Islam.

Despite our present fears, one positive conclusion is easily overlooked. In the past half century, ­social cohesion in Australia is normally higher than in nearly every country in the Middle East and not a few in Europe.

Geoffrey Blainey’s first book was published in 1954. He has since written another 40, on Australian and international history.

Oh come on
Oh come on
September 15, 2024 1:29 pm

Yet another ABC big brain take on the US:

A prime reason why the 2024 presidential election feels so epochal is because it has become a fight between avatars of these contrasting and conflicting Americas. Kamala Harris is a Black woman, whose earliest political memories come from attending civil rights rallies in the late-1960s. “Fweedom” she shouted from her pushchair, she tells us in her memoir. Donald Trump is a white nationalist who made his political name as the untitled leader of the so-called birther movement, which denied the very legitimacy of the country’s first Black president, Barack Obama.

Imagine being dumb enough to not laugh at the claim of a presumably toddler-aged Kamala Harris shouting “fweedom” from her pusher, and instead include it in your article as the gospel truth.

And imagine also being sleazy and disingenuous enough to call Trump a white nationalist, whilst no doubt insisting its literal truth – he is white and he is a nationalist – but with full knowledge of the altered meaning those two words, when collocated, take on.

If you can imagine this, you have conjured up a typical ABC journalist.

The gun debate is a clash over the meaning of the 27 words of tortured syntax and questionable grammar that make up the Second Amendment. Whereas the founding fathers intended it to be a collective right applicable to state militias, the National Rifle Association has succeeded in up-ending this interpretation and making the Second Amendment the basis for individual gun rights. Through much of US history, the Supreme Court repeatedly rejected this specious interpretation. After state militias diminished in importance, the Second Amendment even became known as the lost amendment because of its obsolescence. Not until 2008, in its landmark Heller ruling, did the conservative-dominated court finally grant victory to gun rights activists by altering its meaning.

Wow. Going after the writing skills of the drafters of the Bill of Rights. That is some serious chutzpah right there. And to speak on their behalf regarding their intentions and 2A as if this were settled fact – nope, what he puts forward as fact is actually a minority opinion on what the FFs intended, and has been for the last 40 years at least. The “specious interpretation” is now the mainstream interpretation. To claim otherwise is specious. SCOTUS merely reflects this shift. It’s true that the ‘collective right’ interpretation was prevalent throughout much of 20th century scholarship, but SCOTUS didn’t expressly embrace this and it rarely adjudicated on 2A (still doesn’t). Its decisions in the 20th up until Heller were either narrow or ambiguous. This ABC hack is flat out wrong to say SCOTUS rejected individual gun ownership until Heller.

And by the way, Heller didn’t “alter the meaning” of 2A. It isn’t obvious based on the ordinary and natural meaning of the words of 2A that they refer to collective rather than individual gun rights. Heller affirmed what SCOTUS considered to be the correct interpretation of the Amendment. Courts don’t “alter meanings”. They interpret the correct meanings of statutory and contractual text, which can be open to multiple interpretations. That is an important distinction. Legal disputes are, at a fundamental level, disagreements over what words are understood to mean.

There is just too much partisan bullshit in this purportedly neutral article to fisk the entire thing. I’d be at it all day. But I have to end on this howler:

Yet the Obama years showed that hope and history rarely rhyme. Perhaps the central lesson we learnt from his eight years in office was that there cannot be a post-racial America partly because there cannot be a post-historical America while so much racial discrimination still persists. During the Obama years, US politics became even more racialised. Equality gaps somewhat narrowed but did not close. Rather than being unifying, a transcendent figure who could draw the red and blue states together, a Black president became polarising largely because of his pigmentation. He was followed into office by a man routinely considered to be a racist, a refutation of the Obama years in human form.

As Paulie from the Sopranos would say, ‘the balls on dis f*ckin’ guy’. Obama was twice elected by a nation desperate to become “post-racial America”. The reason it didn’t was because Obama himself was extraordinarily racially divisive. This was not due to a popular reaction to his pigmentation. It was due to his deliberate policies and pronouncements that exacerbated racial animus and grievances. In office, Obama did the opposite of what he promised to do prior to his election in 2008.

And to claim Trump was elected based on his race is to essentially state you know nothing about the US electorate. It’s an impressively stupid article, all up. Read it here if you want to.

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m0nty
m0nty
September 15, 2024 1:37 pm

Kentucky Klan recruiting in Springfield, allegedly (unconfirmed but going viral).

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m0nty
m0nty
September 15, 2024 1:40 pm

And imagine also being sleazy and disingenuous enough to call Trump a white nationalist, whilst no doubt insisting its literal truth – he is white and he is a nationalist – but with full knowledge of the altered meaning those two words, when collocated, take on.

So he’s a white nationalist but not a white nationalist, mmhmm. OCO living up to his name by posting ridiculous nonsense as usual, LOL.

Oh come on
Oh come on
September 15, 2024 1:42 pm

I have to add the following:

Contemporary political ideology has become more historical. On the conservative side of politics, originalism is one of the few core ideas to have survived the Trump years intact.

In the previous paragraph to this, the guy was pushing an originalist interpretation of 2A as being the truth. What an oblivious, know-nothing tool.

Oh come on
Oh come on
September 15, 2024 1:45 pm

I see m0nty’s sparkling intellect is on display as always.

cohenite
September 15, 2024 1:47 pm

The milko must be visiting the kiddies today and dickless is out on the corner with time on his greasy hands to post polished turds.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 15, 2024 1:48 pm

Monty grasping for the Jussie Smollett/KKK handout now?

Things must be bad.

Has Trump with his “eating the cats” line done more to unveil the government/NGO people stacking nexus than any amount of “serious” reporting could have done?

Lets face it, if hed said “they dropped 20,000 Haitians into a town of 40,000 people” it would have got zero traction.

Rosie
Rosie
September 15, 2024 1:58 pm

Good Grief, Monty thinks a photo of a flyer allegedly produced by the kkk in Kansas is proof of something something.
Meanwhile Haitians, many of whom practice voodoo irl as well as eating just about anything back in Haiti couldn’t possibly be stealing pets and protected wildlife to eat in Springfield Ohio.

Oh come on
Oh come on
September 15, 2024 2:02 pm

And really, m0nty. You sure you want to come at me with that? You know using the words isn’t your strong suit. Last time you tried to get clever with language, you ended up inadvertently defaming a well-known and liked commenter here as a paedophile because you were throwing around words you don’t understand.

Fortunately for you, they saw the lighter side of your idiocy. If I were them, I wouldn’t have.

Slip-ups like that can cost you $50k, easy. I’ve seen it happen first hand, in fact. Best you head back to the wading pool for your own safety, m0nts. Deep water isn’t for you.

Rosie
Rosie
September 15, 2024 2:02 pm

Perhaps Monty the Journalist could go to Haiti and report back.
Oh wait it’s on the Do Not Travel list.
“The security situation is volatile. Violent crime is common, including murder, armed robbery, kidnapping, assault, sexual assault and carjacking. There’s a State of Emergency in Port-au-Prince and curfews in place from 10pm to 5am. Air, land and sea borders between Haiti and the Dominican Republic are closed. Airports are open but can be difficult to access due to the highly volatile security situation”

Rosie
Rosie
September 15, 2024 2:03 pm

You can see why Americans are wildly enthusiast about Haitian immigration.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 15, 2024 2:11 pm

Amused that Monty has just revealed, in his own words, that he is a full-on antisemite.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 15, 2024 2:11 pm

Haiti has the dubious distinction of being No 3:

Ranking of the most dangerous cities in the world in 2024, by murder rate per 100,000 inhabitants

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
September 15, 2024 2:14 pm

Now I left my protestant religion behind 50+ years ago, but I do have considerable sympathy for those genuine followers of the Catholic faith who must endure IMHO the worst, most divisive and destructive ‘Pope’ ever.

https://www.breitbart.com/faith/2024/09/13/pope-francis-all-religions-are-a-path-to-reach-god/

Pope Francis told young people in Singapore on Friday that all religions are paths to God, an affirmation that seems to counter the Christian belief in Jesus Christ as the sole savior of humanity.

In an interreligious meeting with youth at Singapore’s Catholic Junior College, the pontiff underscored the importance of interreligious dialogue, insisting that there is no point in arguing about who is right since everybody is right.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 15, 2024 2:31 pm

Monty is also fine with the pleb American workers on $14 an hour being replaced by the Haitians who cost $9 an hour after Federal employment subsidies.

Scab labour.

shatterzzz
September 15, 2024 2:36 pm

Aaaah! .. the Intelligence of the thugby player just shines thru ..
Josh “Addled” Carr sez, I’ll be cleared” not long after accepting the dui charge & fine .. “Addled” doesn’t quite understand that by accepting the fine he’s G-U-I-L-T-Y and he ain’t gonna be “cleared” ..
Besides he’s got a bigger problem ……. Gus ain’t gonna be too happy .. LOL! https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2024-josh-addocarr-wont-attend-bulldogs-sea-eagles-final-requested-fast-tracked-results-of-secondary-drug-test-will-he-be-suspended-rugby-league-news/news-story/4c5bdb222cced859d41d7c771a2cf031

JC
JC
September 15, 2024 2:40 pm

Hey Rooster

Were Dover’s linking instructions helpful?

shatterzzz
September 15, 2024 2:44 pm

Monty is also fine with the pleb American workers on $14 an hour being replaced by the Haitians who cost $9 an hour after Federal employment subsidies.
Scab labour.
 
Used to be/may still be standard CentreLink practice here .. 2009 on the ‘dole’ & got a job as a storeman .. With CentreLink subsidies for age/time out of work the employer was only paying $150 a week out of $450 gross the rest was covered by CentreLink for 6 months ……. Laid off after 6 months & two weeks ……!

calli
calli
September 15, 2024 3:15 pm

Let me test this linky thingo…

Test

Now…I wait…

calli
calli
September 15, 2024 3:16 pm

Try again…

calli
calli
September 15, 2024 3:17 pm

And again

calli
calli
September 15, 2024 3:19 pm

Okay Dover. Your instructions clearly left a step out.

images
Oh come on
Oh come on
September 15, 2024 3:19 pm

It is indeed interesting how the US has had a tendency to involve itself in conflicts adjacent to major narcotics production regions. Aside from Afghanistan, there’s the Golden triangle/Vietnam, Central and South America…all just coincidences I’m sure.

Pogria
Pogria
September 15, 2024 3:20 pm

I never had a problem, not once, linking on the old layout.
Calli, you are not alone. 😀

MatrixTransform
September 15, 2024 3:24 pm
Last edited 18 days ago by MatrixTransform
pete m
pete m
September 15, 2024 3:40 pm

Interesting:

Step 1. Write and then highlight a word or phrase.
Step 2. Press link button, third from the right.
Step 3. Paste the address in the window that appears.
Step 4. Press save.
If comment finished, press post.

WordPress.

m0nty
m0nty
September 15, 2024 3:46 pm

OCO summarised: okay so Trump is a white nationalist but he’s not a white nationalist, know what I mean orright. One and one may equal two when added together but individually they are still just ones so QED that proves Trump is not racist. I am a noted intellectual and you are a poo head.

Rosie
Rosie
September 15, 2024 3:50 pm
calli
calli
September 15, 2024 3:53 pm
calli
calli
September 15, 2024 3:54 pm

Yee Haw!

PeteM, could you please re-write the instruction manual for my son’s Bosch oven?

Ta. 😀

Rosie
Rosie
September 15, 2024 3:55 pm

“As paganism and Judaism prepared the way for Christ, so all religions MAY be pathways to God, but the ultimate destination of the pathway (by God’s providence) must be the foot of the cross of Our Lord Jesus Christ who is the Way, the Truth and the Life”
“Pope Francis is ambiguous and imprecise, but not a heretic so y’all stop spouting this nonsense on social media.”
Pope Francis’s comments on this and that have zero effect on my faith, or of the faith of anyone I know.
https://x.com/dlongenecker1/status/1834942155208454512?t=tiG5ZMvqCVfw1xtjTrHEig&s=19

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 15, 2024 4:06 pm

I’ll say this for m0nty, he’s the ultimate answer to white supremacism.

Nobody who has read any of his posts and seen his picture could conceivably believe that white men are innately superior to the rest of the human race.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 15, 2024 4:12 pm

Mutley’s brain is the hole in the krispy kreme.

Cassie of Sydney
September 15, 2024 4:29 pm

I see Nazi boy has been dropping his Jew hating turds here all day.

Wasn’t there a Jew hating riot for Nazi boy to attend in Melbourne’s CBD today, or have they decided to take Sunday off? How sweet and thoughtful of them, it must sooooo tiring throwing acid and bricks at horses and police, all the while screaming genocidal Jew hating rhetoric.

By the way, upthread the Nazi describes ‘nationalism’ as akin to sewerage. Another weird statement from Nazi boy, but Nazi boy is nothing if not weird. And if Nazi boy really believes this, if Nazi boy is so repulsed by ‘national’, ‘nationalistic’ and ‘nationalism’, perhaps he should avoid anything with those words in it, such as the National Gallery, the Australian National University, the National Museum of Australia, the National Portrait Gallery, the National Art School, the National Art Gallery, even the ABC prides itself on it being our ‘national‘ broadcaster. Are any of these organisations ‘far-right’? I don’t think so.

So, if Nazi boy thinks nationalism and being nationalistic is akin to sewerage then Nazi boy should steer clear of the above mentioned filthy sewer laden ‘national‘ organisations.

Bruce in WA
September 15, 2024 4:40 pm

Singapore Changi airport makes anything we have look very ordinary. But when you have a 9-hour layover it’s still just an airport.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 15, 2024 5:02 pm

Tom
 September 15, 2024 9:13 am:

Our troll is determined to ensure Australians vote for the establishment candidate in the November 5 US election after the ruling party sacked the senile puppe it installed in 2020 and nominated his bimbo box-ticking exercise for 2024 because people are stupid enough to vote for anything.

I’ll vote for $5K a week pension, two women in every bed and a free booze card.*
Apart from that, you’ve gotta work hard to get me motivated.
*OK, $4/week pension and a free ammo card at the range.

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