Open Thread – Thurs 19 Sept 2024


Orchard in Bloom, Claude Monet, 1879

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JC
JC
September 20, 2024 3:42 pm
1735099
1735099
September 20, 2024 3:47 pm

More anti-vax bullshit –
The deadly and harmful ingredients of the monkeypox (mpox) vaccine
The reality  
Out of 13,294 research articles initially identified, 187 were screened after removing duplicates. Following the inclusion and exclusion criteria, the meta-analysis included ten studies with 7430 patients. Three researchers independently assessed the risk of bias in the included study. The pooled results suggest that the vaccinia-exposed group had fewer side effects when compared to the vaccinia naïve group (odds ratio: 1.66; 95% CI: 1.07–2.57; p = 0.03). Overall, the modified vaccinia has proven safe and effective in both vaccinia naïve and previously exposed groups, with higher efficacy in the previously exposed groups.
Source – Department of Epidemiology and Biostatistics, School of Public Health, College of Health Sciences, Jackson State University, Jackson, MS 39217, USA

m0nty
m0nty
September 20, 2024 3:55 pm

NYT journo Olivia Nuzzi has been having some sort of dalliance with RFK Jnr while reporting on national politics from Washington, including a nice profile of him and several nasty pieces on Biden. The age difference is decades, he is married, she is engaged. Eww.

Lawgi Dawes-Hall
Lawgi Dawes-Hall
September 20, 2024 3:58 pm

Poor Sneakers. Wonder what he was up to?

Checking on vacancies for toddler day care.

Cassie of Sydney
September 20, 2024 3:59 pm

Hindsight is both a good and bad thing, in some some ways it’s a curse. We all like to pontificate and judge years after something has transpired, or in this case years after John Howard was PM. I’m the queen of hindsight. But sometimes even I need to sit back and take a chill pill. It’s hard to believe that it has now been nearly 17 years since Howard was PM, 2007 is now a distant time, and in that time since Howard was ignominiously booted (and remember, he lost his seat in that election) I do agree that this country has slipped deeper into a quagmire of bad governance and stupidity. But we should remember that when we judge Howard’s tenure as PM we are often comparing apples and oranges, 2024 is far removed from 2007 and particularly from 1996.

Whilst I do think Howard squandered opportunities, particularly during his last three years of governance when the Liberals actually had a senate majority (the last time and they are unlikely ever to do so again), as Johanna has accurately written here on this pages before, during those last Howard years nobody was calling for the ABC to be privatised or dismantled, and if such a proposition had been raised in cabinet, everyone at the time would have scoffed at such an absurd idea.

2024 is very different to 2007. We don’t need the ABC in 2024.

I’m no great defender of John Howard, I recognise his mistakes but compared to what we’ve had since him, as in Rudd, Gillard, Rudd, Abbott, Turdbull, Morrison and now the grub from Grayndler, dunno about others here but I’ll take ‘little Johnny Howard’ as PM any day. In fact, If I could reside in a dimension where I had revolving years of Hawke and Howard as PM, I’d go there in a jiffy!

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 20, 2024 4:02 pm

Check out this Orca hunt @15:07. This occurs of the coast of Western Australia near Cape Range National Park.

Probably some of the best of the best footage ever captured of a Orca hunt.

They turn into torpedoes and knock the calf out and drag it away.

Ruthless. But hey, that’s nature.

—-

B2B Castaways (Strick and Fran)

Chasing GIANT LOBSTER in a Nature Documentary (ORCAS HUNT)

m0nty
m0nty
September 20, 2024 4:04 pm

Big news day in America. Latest is Matt Gaetz and a live girl.

Kneel
Kneel
September 20, 2024 4:07 pm

“Was Tupperware still being sold via party plan?”

Their can openers are extremely good, especially for older people – it un-picks the seam rather than cutting, so no sharp edges and no need to even rinse it after use (no part touches the can contents). I’ve had mine for 15 years, still going great.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 20, 2024 4:09 pm

How Government Nudge Units Secretly Influence Us: Laura Dodsworth

Maybe we’d trust governments more if they closed down their Nudge Units.

Rosie
Rosie
September 20, 2024 4:19 pm
JC
JC
September 20, 2024 4:27 pm

m0nty

September 20, 2024 4:04 pm

Big news day in America. Latest is Matt Gaetz and a live girl.

Oh, sworn testimony? Well, that settles it, right? If you’re wheeling this barrow around, tubby, then I guess we also have to accept the affidavit from the ABC whistleblower claiming Kamaltoe rigged the debate, right? Or is outrage applied selectively?

Rosie
Rosie
September 20, 2024 4:34 pm
Rosie
Rosie
September 20, 2024 4:39 pm
Arky
September 20, 2024 4:40 pm

Welcome to Monty’s Scandal Sheet News.
My Baby’s Father is An Alien!
RFK Jnr’s Steamy Dalliance!
Black Nazi Governor!

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 20, 2024 4:46 pm

Much wow.
Very surprise.
Numberwang is a vax fanboi.

“Govern me harder daddy”.

govern
alwaysright
alwaysright
September 20, 2024 4:49 pm

Has anyone senn montynumber and numbermonty in the same room?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 20, 2024 4:54 pm
Philby
Philby
September 20, 2024 4:57 pm

https://www.timesofisrael.com/trump-if-i-lose-election-jewish-people-will-have-a-lot-to-do-with-it/

Same as here why vote for those who would destroy you the teaching makes no sense.

alwaysright
alwaysright
September 20, 2024 4:58 pm

Can we beef up our sedition and traitor laws?
Rope at dawn.

I can imagine a long queue of our politicians forming.

JC
JC
September 20, 2024 5:03 pm

I came across an article comparing Elon Musk to Howard Hughes, and honestly, Musk seems like the introvert Hughes. I had to dive into Hughes’ Wikipedia page for the full saga.
Only in America can you get a guy like Howard Hughes—part eccentric genius, and the very definition of chaos.

At a young age, Hughes Jr. showed interest in science and technology. In particular, he had a great engineering aptitude, and built Houston’s first “wireless” radio transmitter at age 11. He went on to be one of the first licensed ham-radio operators in Houston, having the assigned callsign W5CY (originally 5CY). At 12, Hughes was photographed for the local newspaper, which identified him as the first boy in Houston to have a “motorized” bicycle, which he had built from parts of his father’s steam engine. He was an indifferent student, with a liking for mathematics, flying, and mechanics. He took his first flying lesson at 14, and attended Fessenden School in Massachusetts in 1921.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Hughes

Indolent
Indolent
September 20, 2024 5:06 pm
Vicki
Vicki
September 20, 2024 5:08 pm

I am not a fan of Piers Morgan, but I have seen Jordan Petersen talk on contemporary society and its mores, & can never hear enough of his profound analysis of the human condition. Below is an interview of Peterson by Morgan, particularly focussing on the US election and the tempest that is the West. Well worth the almost 60 minutes of attention.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0zxgXgLlJo

JC
JC
September 20, 2024 5:10 pm

Fatboy:

m0nty

September 20, 2024 4:47 pm

Show me the court where this ABC affidavit is lodged.

Tubbs, an affidavit is like our statuary declaration. It needs to be sworn but doesn’t require lodging with a court, you big fat idiot.

Rosie
Rosie
September 20, 2024 5:16 pm
chrisl
chrisl
September 20, 2024 5:22 pm

Keir Starmer now known as Free Gear Keir after accepting over $100,000 of free stuff since 2020. Including suits dresses for his wife and football tickets . Two things the Poms hate , queue jumpers and hypocrites

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 20, 2024 5:30 pm

Keir Starmer now known as Free Gear Keir

Would that be this Sir Keir Starmer?

‘Screaming hypocrite’ Keir Starmer torn apart for rejoicing in Boris Johnson’s ‘sleaze’ (17 Sep)

Labour is so like Labor.

cohenite
September 20, 2024 5:37 pm

I’m no great defender of John Howard, I recognise his mistakes but compared to what we’ve had since him, as in Rudd, Gillard, Rudd, Abbott, Turdbull, Morrison and now the grub from Grayndler, dunno about others here but I’ll take ‘little Johnny Howard’ as PM any day.

And that is the very reason he is the worst. He is ostensibly the best, the wise old sage who people refer to and respect. Because he is held in high regard he is capable of being that more damaging. Forget about all his failures that I’ve outlined, just consider what he said about Trump, that Trump is a threat to democracy because Trump would not accept the umpire’s finger: I say, bad sport old toast!

Every POTUS election in the US has featured objections, law suits, protests and even revolutions. In 2000 when Bush beat Gore, the legal actions went on for months.

When Trump won in 2016 there were riots in DC for weeks. Trump was bugged, everyone from shrillary down called him illegal; idiots walked around carrying Trump’s severed heads and there many demands he be assassinated. When that ended they spent 2 years on the Russian dossier and when that failed they impeached him repeatedly and BLM and antifa riots went on for years. How about that for an election rejection. The umpire was not only ignored he was taken out the back, tarred and feathered and then shot.

Yet the sage of the liberal party is rejecting Trump because Trump complained about corrupt practices during the election: corrupt practices we know to have happened. We also know Jan 6 was an inside job and Trump was blameless even if anything happened which it did not.

Little johnnie’s TDS is no less virulent just because he is so wise and calm and measured. His faux wise demeanour makes it worse. And that is why he is the worst.

Lysander
Lysander
September 20, 2024 5:37 pm

I was out getting my double bass rebridged this AM (“only” cost $400) and came across the most gorgeous Czech I’ve ever seen!!! She was a beauty.

Nice curves, red and a great body, she was made in 1907 in Czechoslovakia; of a fine rustic spruce and only costs $6,500. She is, of course, a violin. And one of the finest I’ve played…

This is going to take some saving…

Rosie
Rosie
September 20, 2024 5:46 pm
Rosie
Rosie
September 20, 2024 5:50 pm
Indolent
Indolent
September 20, 2024 5:53 pm
Miltonf
Miltonf
September 20, 2024 6:05 pm

His attitude to Trump and Turnbull means that I no longer have any time for him. Apparently Turnbull’s disgusting public tantrums are quite ok.

Miltonf
Miltonf
September 20, 2024 6:17 pm

It sometimes seems to me that Turnbull was Howard’s poisonous egg and eff you to Australia.

Last edited 13 days ago by Miltonf
Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 20, 2024 6:24 pm

Another classic from Danger Dan Reviews:

D*ckhead Of The Week!

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Almost the greatest video ever made!

calli
calli
September 20, 2024 6:34 pm

My view is that Howard was charmed. Turnbull, debonair, deceptive, connected, wealthy, reputation stacked up on paper. A great “win”, bringing him in from Labor.

And there was the crikit connection.

Howard was not a good judge of character here. I’ve made similar mistakes, but then I’m not PM.

As others have noted before me, Trump is a type of Turing test. They hate him, but they can never tell you why. To face reality, they’d have to admit they’re in thrall to what the media endlessly pumps out rather than rational individuals. And that they will never do.

bons
bons
September 20, 2024 6:35 pm

Spot the difference between ADF and IDF leadership.

The Chief of IDF only wears fatigues and always carries a weapon. He devotes enormous effort to face to face contact with the troops, in the field.

The CDF always wears sam browne and service dress and relies on releasing scolding videos as his means of communicating with the detested troops. If he leaves Canberra it is to travel OS, not to ADF bases or AOs.

Leadership versus self serving conceit.

Eyrie
Eyrie
September 20, 2024 6:41 pm

As others have noted before me, Trump is a type of Turing test. They hate him, but they can never tell you why. 
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calli, I’ve noticed that too from normally sensible people.

Pogria
Pogria
September 20, 2024 6:48 pm

Bloody hell, the spam calls are coming thick and fast this evening.
One of the scammers must have been a newbie. They hung on long enough to go to voice mail. A chinese voice saying “huwo? Lol.
It was spoofed through a heavy machinery business number in Pannawonica, WA.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 20, 2024 6:49 pm

It sometimes seems to me that Turnbull was Howard’s poisonous egg and eff you to Australia.

A practical demonstration of the failure of Howard’s version of ‘Broad Church’. Bring in someone who would otherwise be a Centre/Centre Left member of the Labor Party (minus the Union affiliation).

Result: absolute political chaos.

  • Policy brain farts, tracking very close in form and substance to the (then Labor) opposition, because ‘managerial science’ polling;
  • Infighting and Parliamentary and Party division;
  • Voter indecision – what do they stand for? What does Jobsongrothe actually mean?
  • Split conservative vote neutered by the Preferential System;
  • Greens tumescent;
  • Labor driven by the Greens.

[Slow handclap] How’d that all work out?
Farking Dickhead.

Miltonf
Miltonf
September 20, 2024 6:53 pm

The ‘broad church’ rubbish has been around for decades with wishy washy ‘small l’ liberals like McPhee and Fraser.

Miltonf
Miltonf
September 20, 2024 6:55 pm

Ruddock is another example.

Oh come on
Oh come on
September 20, 2024 7:03 pm

The Australian National University’s Vice-Chancellor Professor Genevieve Bell has also fronted the inquiry, and refused to comment on a student who expressed their “unconditional support” for Hamas.

Student Beatrice Tucker was expelled over the comments made about the militant group on ABC Radio earlier this year.

Um what? She got expelled for that? Mmm that doesn’t sit well with me. Likewise, I wouldn’t support the expulsion of someone who expressed their unconditional support for kiddy fiddlers/fiddling, or, say, the complete elimination of humanity (although I would certainly support such people not being allowed near children and/or laboratories of any kind). Isn’t it good to know what people like this want to let out into the world?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 20, 2024 7:10 pm

Student Beatrice Tucker was expelled over the comments made about the militant group on ABC Radio earlier this year.

Expelled one day, up for student president the next (Paywallian)

ANU student Beatrice Tucker, who said earlier this year that Hamas ‘deserved unconditional support’, is now running to be student association president after the university overturned an expulsion.

Deport it to Gaza. And the rest of the student association too.

calli
calli
September 20, 2024 7:16 pm

Paging Beatrice!

Roger
Roger
September 20, 2024 7:18 pm

Ive made this point to lefties before, and the shannott believe it.

Howard was able to massively ramp up migration on the back of “being in control”.

I mentioned this earlier today but worth repeating:

Dutton’s proposed cuts to Albanese’s immigration figures would still leave us at Howard’s ponzi levels: 160 000 per year.

The Uniparty gives concerned Australians only Hobson’s choice.

Last edited 13 days ago by Roger
bons
bons
September 20, 2024 7:31 pm

Super tweet.

Hezbollah is no longer a multi generational organisation.

JC
JC
September 20, 2024 7:47 pm

How does the song go. “I shot the sheriff” , but the sheriff shot the judge,

A sheriff in Kentucky is accused of fatally shooting a district judge at a courthouse Thursday afternoon, authorities said.

Judge Kevin Mullins was in his district office when he was shot shortly before 3 p.m., and Letcher County Sheriff Mickey Stines has been detained in the slaying, Kentucky State Police said Thursday night.

Pogria
Pogria
September 20, 2024 7:59 pm
Miltonf
Miltonf
September 20, 2024 8:03 pm

Has Elgar been denounced as a racist yet I wonder?

Salvatore - Iron Publican
September 20, 2024 8:18 pm

Spot the difference between ADF and IDF leadership.

Had a pair of Israeli lads working with me a few years ago, fresh from having just done Three years in the army.

They claimed the army had taught them a few things & was generally a pretty handy thing.

Wickedly I said to them that the army does teach young men some barrack room tricks, & their new skills in ironing clothes to crisp perfection, making perfectly neat beds, & polishing metal to mirror-shiny, would be quite useful in a pub.

Response: Puzzled blank stare.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 20, 2024 8:27 pm
Miltonf
Miltonf
September 20, 2024 8:29 pm
Last edited 13 days ago by Miltonf
Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
September 20, 2024 9:12 pm

Sal, thanks for trying to track down that book earlier.
I tipped out the recycling bin myself this arvo…. to no avail. Wifey has been turning over flower beds and lining newspaper under the mulch layer- poor naive thing.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 20, 2024 9:33 pm

Welcomes to country are a mark of mutual respectJust like toasts at birthday parties or speeches at weddings, welcomes to country are sometimes over-cooked or strike the wrong chord. But conducted properly at the right events, this practice enriches all of us and furthers reconciliation.

I can’t access this article from the Oz, would anyone be good enough?

Black Ball
Black Ball
September 20, 2024 9:58 pm

I’d like to see the Sydney blokes do to Ken Hinkley what he did to Hawthorn last week.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 20, 2024 10:00 pm

It’s always good to go back have a listen from time to time.

He was a humble bloke.

Crucify Your Mind – A Beautiful Song by Sixto Rodriguez 1970 – Film Clip “Monika”

Indolent
Indolent
September 20, 2024 10:04 pm
Indolent
Indolent
September 20, 2024 10:08 pm
Indolent
Indolent
September 20, 2024 10:33 pm

@robinmonotti

Lord Alli funded at least seven Cabinet ministers:

‘Labour peer has given more than £300,000 to members of Sir Keir Starmer’s front bench during span of almost two decades’

“The Labour peer has handed out £314,147 to members of Sir Keir Starmer’s front bench as part of a string of donations spanning almost two decades.

The donations suggest Lord Alli backed candidates running against Jeremy Corbyn, … before ramping up donations under Sir Keir’s premiership.

The Prime Minister and Angela Rayner, his deputy, top the list, taking £155,122 and £72,450 respectively from the peer in benefits and cash donations, records show.

Other beneficiaries include Wes Streeting, the Health Secretary, who has been handed £14,600 by the media entrepreneur since 2021, as well as Ed Miliband, the Energy Secretary, who was given £10,000 last year.”

Ellie
Ellie
September 21, 2024 11:10 pm

Matrix, you mourn the same way I do.

Ellie
Ellie
September 22, 2024 11:44 am

Words disappearing.
Am cooking up an Italian storm, JC. My 20 year old cat was put to sleep recently. He is missed. My 19 year old is spritely and waking me at 4am.
Thankfully I don’t live in Springfield

  1. I think the punters are stirring, getting ansty. Normally letting politics of either persuasion slide by as we just get…

  2. Great stuff from the past. Visuals and audio are great. —— F r. David – Words Don’t Come Easy

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