Open Thread – Weekend 21 Sept 2024


Picnic Under The Trees, Julius LeBlanc Stewart, 1895

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Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 21, 2024 12:17 am

I see Chris Kenny yet again failing to read the room in his article about Welcome to Country.
Have never before seen the author of an article at the Australian make so many reply comments. Looks like at least 80% disagree with him..

John H.
John H.
September 21, 2024 12:40 am

calli

 September 20, 2024 6:34 pm

My view is that Howard was charmed. Turnbull, debonair, deceptive, connected, wealthy, reputation stacked up on paper. A great “win”, bringing him in from Labor.

And there was the crikit connection.

Howard was not a good judge of character here. I’ve made similar mistakes, but then I’m not PM.

As others have noted before me, Trump is a type of Turing test. They hate him, but they can never tell you why. To face reality, they’d have to admit they’re in thrall to what the media endlessly pumps out rather than rational individuals. And that they will never do.

He claims to be a very stable genius, Tom reckons his IQ is 150+, but he was repeatedly and manipulated by a woman he claims has a very low IQ and is crazy.
He insists he won the debate despite overwhelming polling.
He continually boasts about his intelligence. In doing so he reifies Hawking’s comment about those who boast about their IQ.
He has on multiple occasions said “I know more about X than anybody”.
He lies too often.
He said water destroys magnets.
He said that immigrants are taking 100% of jobs, actually much more than that.
His response to the question about childcare at the Economy Club of New York was incomprehensible gibberish.
He claims English professors said what he did with “weaving” during speeches was brilliant and not rambling yet never named one person to support that claim.
He is always playing the victim card.
But wait, there’s so much more.

This is all on the public record. It is not about what the media states, it is about his statements all available on YT.

Turing test? Ironically are bots that can generate more rational responses than Trump.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 21, 2024 12:41 am

John Stossel:

Americans fear speaking about Islam – and with good reason. Ten cartoonists were murdered for drawing cartoons of the Prophet Mohammad. Other critics have been shot, firebombed, and hacked to death.

Stossel interviews people brave enough to speak out, like Ayaan Hirsi Ali, who is on an Al Qaeda “Wanted Dead or Alive” hit list, and Bosch Fawstin, who won the “Draw Mohammad” cartoon event in Garland, Texas that was attacked by Islamic gunmen. They argue that if Americans want freedom, everyone must refuse to be censored by violent extremists.

Classic Stossel: Free Speech and Islam

shatterzzz
September 21, 2024 12:45 am

Why not he sez .. 4th …………!

KevinM
KevinM
September 21, 2024 3:39 am
Tom
Tom
September 21, 2024 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
September 21, 2024 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
September 21, 2024 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
September 21, 2024 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
September 21, 2024 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
September 21, 2024 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
September 21, 2024 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
September 21, 2024 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
September 21, 2024 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
September 21, 2024 4:07 am
KevinM
KevinM
September 21, 2024 4:18 am

Wise advice, better heed it, prevents a visit to the doghouse.

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DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 21, 2024 4:38 am

Thanks Tom.

Pogria
Pogria
September 21, 2024 5:18 am

Henry Payne #1 for the win.
John Spooner should do the same with Fat Farooki.

KevinM
KevinM
September 21, 2024 5:48 am

Most of of you will remember him, I don’t and don’t apologise any more, just not my kind of music.

But it’s interesting nonetheless to read about the life of the man.

It’s about Richard Wayne Penniman.

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Richard Wayne Penniman (December 5, 1932 – May 9, 2020), known professionally as Little Richard, was an American singer, pianist, and songwriter. He was an influential figure in popular music and culture for seven decades.

Described as the “Architect of Rock and Roll”, Richard’s most celebrated work dates from the mid-1950s, when his charismatic showmanship and dynamic music, characterized by frenetic piano playing, pounding backbeat and powerful raspy vocals, laid the foundation for rock and roll. Richard’s innovative emotive vocalizations and uptempo rhythmic music played a key role in the formation of other popular music genres, including soul and funk.

He influenced singers and musicians across musical genres from rock to hip hop; his music helped shape rhythm and blues for generations.
“Tutti Frutti” (1955), one of Richard’s signature songs, became an instant hit, crossing over to the pop charts in the United States and the United Kingdom. His next hit single, “Long Tall Sally” (1956), hit No. 1 on the Billboard Rhythm and Blues Best-Sellers chart, followed by a rapid succession of fifteen more in less than three years. In 1962, after a five-year period during which Richard abandoned rock and roll music for born-again Christianity, concert promoter Don Arden persuaded him to tour Europe.

During this time, the Beatles opened for Richard on some tour dates.
Richard is cited as one of the first crossover black artists, reaching audiences of all races. His music and concerts broke the color line, drawing black and white people together despite attempts to sustain segregation.

Many of his contemporaries, including Elvis Presley, Buddy Holly, Bill Haley, Jerry Lee Lewis, the Everly Brothers, Gene Vincent, Pat Boone, and Eddie Cochran, recorded covers of his works.
Richard was honored by many institutions. He was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as part of its first group of inductees in 1986. He was also inducted into the Songwriters Hall of Fame. He was the recipient of

Lifetime Achievement Awards from The Recording Academy and the Rhythm and Blues Foundation. In 2015, Richard received a Rhapsody & Rhythm Award from the National Museum of African American Music. “Tutti Frutti” was included in the National Recording Registry of the Library of Congress in 2010, which stated that his “unique vocalizing over the irresistible beat announced a new era in music”.

Richard
Miltonf
Miltonf
September 21, 2024 5:55 am

He lies too often.

He is always playing the victim card.

examples?

Trump is an accomplished and successful businessman with real achievements in the real world. Unlike you.

Beertruk
September 21, 2024 6:19 am

Thought this would be of interest:

Today’s Saturday Tele cartoon

Warren_21_Sep_2024
shatterzzz
September 21, 2024 6:47 am

Apparently, the various media outlets have forgotten “Charlie Hebdo” as they compete for the “honour” to be terrorism’ best cheerleader ..

1735099
1735099
September 21, 2024 6:57 am

Don Watson is brilliant.
Read the Passion of Private White, and listen to this – https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/bigideas/don-watson-on-democracy-sorrento-writers-festival/103881950

shatterzzz
September 21, 2024 7:09 am

Most mornings I browse the Mail Online, simply to fill in time, but lately for some reason they have become obsessed with death and illness .. 70% of stories seem to be some, usually unknown to me anyway, celebrity dying or kiddies, ordinary folk catching weird but deadly diseases ….
?Starting to be resemble an adverting forum for a “Cemeteries R Us” campaign ………..!

shatterzzz
September 21, 2024 7:20 am

How desperate can the terrorist luvvin’ media get .. can exploding pagers breach international law ..?
We’re talking about terrorists getting a taste of their own “who-gives-a-damn” games and the media is concerned Israel isn’t playing fair .. FFS!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-20/exploding-pagers-walkie-talkie-booby-traps-lebanon-war-law/104369392

shatterzzz
September 21, 2024 7:26 am

Sraight hitting wordz from a great boxer & world champion ………!

Lionel
damon
damon
September 21, 2024 7:34 am

One of the most brilliant, and specific, counter terrorism operations in recent history.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 21, 2024 7:38 am

Another good day for the world.

A top Hezbollah commander and 10 other senior operatives are among 12 confirmed dead after Israeli fighter jets unleashed a furious targeted attack on Beirut.

MatrixTransform
September 21, 2024 7:47 am

not just pagers and walkie-talkies … apparently solar arrays are now being maliciously exploded

the electronical version of covid

semi-plausible, invisible hand, unprovable, an insidious danger to everybody

but apparently contained by the media to Lebannon

what a crock of seriously retarded “proverbial”

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 21, 2024 7:49 am

Yet another land claim. From Daily Telegraph

Minns govt to fight land claim over Penrith Stadium redevelopment site
The $300 million redevelopment of Penrith Stadium has hit a hurdle as the Minns government fights an Aboriginal land claim over the site.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 21, 2024 7:52 am

A top Hezbollah commander and 10 other senior operatives are among 12 confirmed dead

The Hezbies aren’t having a good week. They had all their pagers blown up, then their walkie talkies blown up. That meant phones or face to face meetings. Looks like they chose face to face meetings…kaboom.

calli
calli
September 21, 2024 7:53 am

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said it killed senior Hezbollah commander Ibrahim Aqil and about 10 others from the group’s Radwan special forces unit in what it said was a “targeted strike” on Friday afternoon, local time.

Israel claimed in a statement following the strike that Aqil and the other killed commanders were planning an attack in which Hezbollah would infiltrate Israeli communities and murder innocent civilians.

From ABC

Apparently many injured. Assume hospitals already filled with pager injuries. Naturally, Hezbies will be given priority.

Which might be a clue as to how these creeps can be pinpointed.

Rosie
Rosie
September 21, 2024 8:04 am

The entire senior command of 20.
Someone will be along shortly to tell us 200 will pop up in their place.
https://x.com/BarakRavid/status/1837157721272943091?t=yKOpce4hiYGX_BKEQfIyLA&s=19

Rosie
Rosie
September 21, 2024 8:04 am
GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 21, 2024 8:06 am

Hisbollocks now has a new favourite colour. Blew!

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 21, 2024 8:06 am

Someone will be along shortly to tell us 200 will pop up in their place.

Might be hard getting life insurance.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 21, 2024 8:11 am

John Birmingham wrote a book last century entitled “He Died With a Falafel in His Hand”.
What did he know and when did he know it?

Rosie
Rosie
September 21, 2024 8:16 am

Local Thai restaurant now has an enormous trannie working as a server.
I didn’t know Thai men could be well over 6 foot tall but there you go.
Beautiful nail polish.
I’m sure he’s very nice but I’m not going back there.

Rosie
Rosie
September 21, 2024 8:17 am

“On July 18, 1994, Hezbollah pulled off the deadliest terror attack in Argentina’s history when they bombed a Jewish community center.

85 people sadly lost their lives, and hundreds more were horrifically injured.

This is the group you mourn, the ideology you find acceptable, the deaths you are willing to tolerate out of your hate for the world’s only Jewish state.”
Just a reminder this isn’t about Israel.

https://x.com/HenMazzig/status/1837195346323161273?t=HJN7peZPGpi31mZTmGb-OA&s=19

132andBush
132andBush
September 21, 2024 8:17 am

John H.

 September 21, 2024 12:40 am

Those of a more pragmatic nature and less likely to vote with our genitals look at what he actually did.
Policy wise Trump was overwhelmingly good.

Cassie of Sydney
September 21, 2024 8:23 am

It tells us something about the shoddy calibre of industry leadership and industry organisations that they allowed themselves to be tricked by Labor prior to the 2022 election. In today’s Oz, Chris Uhlmann has written a very good, accurate and brutal opinion piece on big industry’s flirtations and dalliances with the left, but Uhlmann says nothing we haven’t discussed and stated on these pages over the last few years. As always we here on the Cat have been ahead of the curve in pointing out the bleeding and blindingly obvious, that the love affair between big business, industry councils/organisations and Labor/Unions/Greens was always going to end in buckets of tears.

Big business flirtation with Labor seems to have come to a rather sticky end

There is a saying you hear a lot in the Middle East: no one respects anyone who is weak.

It holds true not just in national defence but in work and life. This does not mean you have to be belligerent, unreasonable or lack empathy for different views, just that it is better if people know where you stand on matters you consider important. It’s about setting boundaries and defending them.

It would appear that Australia’s business community has now finally got the memo that the meek will not inherit the Earth but buy a world of grief.

In two speeches in two weeks the leaders of peak business organisations have taken the opportunity of having the Prime Minister as a captive member of their annual dinner audience for an airing of
grievances.

Tania Constable, from the Minerals Council of Australia, opened the batting in parliament’s Great Hall on September 10 and hers was the standout innings.

She described a mining industry under “siege” from “a steady stream of restrictive policy interventions, reckless industrial relations changes, and royalty raids, complex regulatory changes, and the looming threat of onerous and arbitrary environmental approvals”.

Next up was Business Council of Australia’s Bran Black, who reported on Wednesday night: “I’ve spoken to many CEOs who’ve said they are far, far more cautious about hiring after the government’s raft of recent workplace changes.”

It’s interesting that Black name-checked Constable and the heads of two other peak bodies in the audience, saying they were “all committed to working together”. Maybe business is learning something from the unions: if you want to fight a war you need to raise an army.

If you had to pick a moment that underscored the business community’s meek march towards its own demise, rewind to the 2022 Jobs and Skills Summit. For those who have forgotten, this jamboree was about Labor forging a “consensus” between business and unions to improve workplace relations and grow the economy.

In the lead-up the BCA and Council of Small Business Organisations Australia unveiled agreements with the Australian Council of Trade Unions over industrial relations changes. The small-business outfit would go so far as to agree to explore multi-employer bargaining, and dismissed the idea that it could be a Trojan horse for sector-wide pattern bargaining.

Before the summit the then head of the business council, Jennifer Westacott, appeared on the ABC’s Insiders with ACTU secretary Sally McManus, and both were lauded for what seemed like furious agreement. During the event the two held a joint press conference and all hailed the hands-across-the-water atmosphere as ushering in a new era of industrial harmony.

In the midst of the love-in a senior member of the fourth estate was called to parliament’s Queens Terrace cafe by one of this nation’s leading chief executives.

“We’re being had here, aren’t we?” the CEO observed.

“Too right,” the journalist replied.

What should have been evident to a cave salamander was that Labor was building a mirage of consultation over its intention to deliver the ACTU’s workplace agenda.

Prime Minster Anthony Albanese is set to face a barrage of criticism from the Business Council of Australia over Labor’s new industrial relations laws, regulations and taxes.

This is not a criticism of either McManus or the then workplace relations minister, Tony Burke. On the contrary, both had a strong view about what they believed was best for their constituents – workers, unions and Labor’s base – and stayed true to it. Neither could be described as weak.

They had a plan, they executed it, and used business as a human shield. At the summit’s end Burke was already announcing the government’s reforms. He indicated he was sympathetic to the unions’ call for multi-employer bargaining and underlined that he was seeking consensus and co-operation, not unanimity.

And Burke delivered for his people in spades. This has the not inconsequential side-effect of giving every union in the land a reason to be grateful to him. That will matter the next time the Labor leader’s job is up for grabs.

Meanwhile, business was having that nasty what-did-I-drink-last-night? morning after.

This column sought the views of business insiders and former politicians for an anonymous, unvarnished view of the meek past and the current, combative, stance of industry associations. One noted the associations were a reflection of their memberships and had been weakened because the nation’s largest companies were populated by “corporate bureaucrats who mistake access for impact”.

“In their mind, an angry minister is indicative of failure, not a necessary milestone to a better policy outcome,” he said. “They shit themselves if some idiot green activist turns up in a koala suit in their foyer, or with half a dozen proxy votes at their annual general meeting. They (and their directors) cannot resist the latest lefty fad, like the voice, not least because they don’t want to soil their chances of a comfy semi-retirement as a non-executive director.

“Collectively, the weathervane approach and puppy dog preference for being patted rather than issuing the odd bark has undermined their most important asset, latent power, the ability to shape outcomes without exercising brutal power.”

This weakness had emboldened Labor because it reckoned it could act without consequences. It would have shown more restraint if business had drawn clear red lines. “So they are the authors of their own predicament,” the insider said.

Another business insider pointed to the sway union-controlled industry super funds now have on companies. Big stakeholders were championing environmental, social and governance investing, and corporate bureaucrats seemed eager to celebrate every imposition.
“The companies are now lost in a woke labyrinth,” he said.

Current and former Coalition MPs hold big business in barely disguised contempt. Liberals trace the party’s break with corporates back to the 2007 election campaign, where the Howard government was fighting a rearguard action defending its overreach on WorkChoices. Corporates had begged for this industrial relations plan but when the political battle came they beat a retreat as unions poured $10m into a brilliant and brutal campaign.

One former minister said it was then he realised big business would “fight to the last drop of our blood”.

Another former minister said the conservative ill-feeling worsened as corporations championed every progressive cause, a tendency that reached its apogee during the voice referendum campaign. “They are now so self-loathing they don’t seem to mind legislation that puts them out of business,” he said.

The reviews are bad but self-awareness is the beginning of wisdom so it’s good to see the industry associations unmuzzled by their corporate masters. It’s also noteworthy that a new lobby group, Coal Australia, has emerged determined to make the case for an industry that is the nation’s largest energy resource and that delivers $100bn in export earnings.

To reflect on the mistakes of the past, and to stiffen their spine for a more combative future, corporate Australia should turn the page to Revelations 3:15:

“I know all about you: how you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were one or the other, but since you are neither one nor the other, but only lukewarm, I will spit you from my mouth.”

This unholy dalliance has now ended in sobs as we all knew it would. I doubt such a dalliance would ever have occurred 20, 30 and 40 years ago, but that was a different time when we had real titans leading businesses and business organisations..

I’ll just remind people about Ms Constable, who has suddenly woken up to the fact that Labor is not her friend. Last year, prior to the racist divisive Voice referendum, Ms Constable said the following…..

Asked whether it supported the Voice, Minerals Council of Australia chief executive Tania Constable said: “The MCA supports a Voice and has a long demonstrated history of listening to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander communities.”

So, the MCA has gone from heavyweight Hugh Morgan to lightweight woke Tania Constable. One good thing from reading Uhlmann’s piece above is that at least numerous Liberals and Nationals are distancing themselves from these corporates, they are no longer enamoured of large corporates and their woke industry bodies.

Memo to Ms Constable, you supped with the devil. The devil always has the last laugh. Perhaps is Ms Constable and other woke lightweights, instead of listening to ‘dreamtime’ nonsense, had instead remembered that old biblical adage about being deceived…..

Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, this he will also reap

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Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 21, 2024 8:23 am

Rosie
 September 21, 2024 8:04 am

The entire senior command of 20.

Someone will be along shortly to tell us 200 will pop up in their place.

Entirely predictable themes:-
1. Scores of “civilian” casualties;
2. Downplay the impact. “What did it achieve?” (Well it’s stopped some Hezbollocks breeding, and quite a few trigger fingers have had to be sewn back on).
3. Escalation. Every Israeli action “risks sparking a wider conflict in the region”. Presented as if Israel was living amongst completely benign neighbours who have finally lost their patience.
4. Futility. “Just breeding the next generation of terrorists. Not that this lot are terrorists, you understand.”

Rosie
Rosie
September 21, 2024 8:24 am

Not a movie I wish to see.
Even Lineham acknowledges that porn is the heart of the problem.
https://x.com/Glinner/status/1837223050514944324?t=OssQVnETSOZHiazWGxYDIg&s=19

Rosie
Rosie
September 21, 2024 8:25 am
Indolent
Indolent
September 21, 2024 8:29 am

@LauraLoomer

BREAKING EXCLUSIVE:

The ABC Whistleblower who claimed ABC News gave @KamalaHarris the Presidential debate questions ahead of the Presidential debate has exclusively given me a copy of the official complaint they filed with the SEC today.  

See screenshots of the submissions below:
As of today, The Securities and Exchange Commissioner (SEC) has acknowledged receipt of two complaints lodged against @Disney, the owner of ABC News @ABC. The complaint, seen below, states that ABC News and their Parent company Disney colluded with the 
@KamalaHarris Presidential Campaign to influence the Presidential debate on 9-10-24 and to further influence the outcome of the 2024 Presidential Election. 

@DavidMuir @LinseyDavis
 
The Complaint shows documents uploaded to the official SEC complaint system and a screenshot of the uploaded file that the Whistleblower claims contains evidence of this collusion. 

Below are the documents that were exclusively provided to me today. 

Submission Number: 17268-694-586-914 was submitted successfully on Friday, September 20, 2024 at 08:55:41 AM EDT

Submission Number: 17268-178-298-389 was submitted successfully on Friday, September 20, 2024 at 10:16:25 AM EDT

The Whistleblower complaint that was submitted to the SEC today reads: 

“I have heard and observed conversations and have evidence in hand of ABC News, a wholly owned subsidiary of Disney Media Networks, which is a division of The Walt Disney Company, collusion between ABC news and the Kamala Harris campaign for the Presidency of the United States. It is my belief from the context of the conversations, that ABC news in the debate held on September 10, 2024, and at other various times before and after this debate to influence the Presidential election. I would like to emphatically state, that I am not a Donald Trump supporter and have never voted for Donald Trump. The context of the conversations heard and among other observations is that ABC News is working with the Kamala Harris campaign, and that Disney may exact monetary or other future considerations if they aid in the election of Kamala Harris. I have sat idly by for years and watched the media on both sides of the political spectrum become nothing more than campaign ads for politicians. It is clear that there are multiple considerations being exchanged in this current Presidential campaign. I have enclosed further evidence for your consideration. Please note, this evidence contains personal information of mine and I wish for it to remain undisclosed for safety considerations for my family.”

This was the brief statement on the complaint which was partially cut off in submission photo.

Here are the screenshots of the Whistleblower’s official complaint to the SEC today regarding their alleged claims of having evidence that @ABC News gave @KamalaHarris’s campaign the questions for the Presidential debate against Donald Trump ahead of the debate. 

ABC News and Disney must issue a statement immediately. 

Cassie of Sydney
September 21, 2024 8:31 am

Whilst Trump might not be the world’s greatest orator, at least he doesn’t spout shallow waffle like Obama and I think Trump’s ‘gibberish’ has always a lot more comprehensible than the current POTUS (remember him) or VEEP.

Indolent
Indolent
September 21, 2024 8:32 am

@Travis_4_Trump

HAPPENING NOW: In a shocking twist, new documents prove that Donald Trump requested National Guard troops on January 6th, and the Pentagon delayed it and the Biden admin hid it.

This is nothing short of treason. Every single member of the J6 committee should be tried for treason, along with Milley, Biden, Harris, Pelosi, and anyone else who knew about this.

This is one of the biggest injustices we’ve ever witnessed! How are they still getting away with this?

Indolent
Indolent
September 21, 2024 8:38 am

This was my first thought when I saw yesterday that P. Diddy had been put on suicide watch.

@catturd2

Let me guess – the security cameras mysteriously don’t work and the guards are all asleep.

Indolent
Indolent
September 21, 2024 8:39 am
Indolent
Indolent
September 21, 2024 8:41 am

The kind we have in America, Canada, the U.K. and right here, among others.

@DogRightGirl

What kind of government willfully destroys its own country?

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
September 21, 2024 8:43 am

Hezbollah is so rattled that it’s not staging Grieving Relatives Over The Bodies Of Children Slain In Attack On School/Hospital photos.
….not even with A.I.
Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk

Indolent
Indolent
September 21, 2024 8:44 am

@JackPosobiec

A story from the past

This man went to the same school as Trump years ago

When his dad died young, Trump’s father privately went to their mother and paid the full tuition for him and his 2 siblings

cohenite
September 21, 2024 8:45 am

He lies too often.

Name one. With proof.

Cassie of Sydney
September 21, 2024 8:48 am

Cat Poll, which ‘gibberish’ do you prefer?

Donald Trump’s gibberish

or

Kamala Harris’s gibberish

I will tally later.

Indolent
Indolent
September 21, 2024 8:50 am
cohenite
September 21, 2024 8:54 am

Trump does not do gibberish

Cassie of Sydney
September 21, 2024 8:55 am

This came up on my feed. Please watch, of course this was underreported by the UK Media, it only happened a few weeks ago.

Muslim woman storms into church shouting ‘Allahu Akbar’ and ‘I am here to kill the God of the Jews’

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OFvBPUu3QU

This will become the norm across the west. Churches invaded and violated by Muslim scum. You see, due to massive security at synagogues across the West, it’s very hard for Muslims to enter a synagogue.

Indolent
Indolent
September 21, 2024 8:56 am

The Bee. But I don’t see the joke.

Jill Biden Becomes First Female President

Rosie
Rosie
September 21, 2024 8:56 am

Apparently Palestinians in Lebanon don’t get the royal treatment.
https://x.com/TMasudin/status/1837175134836130092?t=T1NUYC00Mwt_Fw3nFfc3Pg&s=19

Indolent
Indolent
September 21, 2024 8:58 am
Indolent
Indolent
September 21, 2024 9:00 am

@MattWalshBlog

If you want to speak like Kamala Harris, in terms of how you speak and the language you use and the sentences you utter and articulate, it’s important to always use ten words when one would suffice, and to never — in terms of ending sentences — actually end your sentence, but instead continue, and proceed, and even carry on, in terms of how you continue, so that you won’t reach the end of your sentence and be expected — even, you might say, encouraged, urged — to begin a new sentence, when in fact, in terms of saying things, you actually have nothing to say at all, so you continue saying words, terms, and phrases, so no one notices — hear me on this — no one notices — how stupid, in terms of intelligence, you actually are

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 21, 2024 9:00 am

Clark, the thief who stole hopes of a peopleGeoff Clark’s criminal downfall has prompted an outpouring of regret and anger from Aboriginal leaders and policy makers, who see him as the symbol of dysfunction in Indigenous affairs.

From the Oz – anybody able to post the full article?

Rosie
Rosie
September 21, 2024 9:00 am

Someone on twitter pointed out it’s a little harder to stage palliwood events in Lebanon than Gaza. Still some semblance of democracy and a free press, not to mention not everyone is a Shia Muslim so a bit harder to get away with fakes.

shatterzzz
September 21, 2024 9:02 am

Bought this is a “thank you”/burfday present for my youngest daughter, her being a coin collector, because I don’t drive, she has dun all the transporting of me to & fro to quacks, scans & hospital stays culminating in the removal of my Prostate & nearby Cancer …..
Not sure if many of you collect/know Oz two dollar coins but if you do you’ll understand what your looking at & one coin in particular .. the “holy grail” of the Oz coloured two dollar coins ..
Trying to say “THANK YOU” when your kid(s) care .. priceless ………!

Burfday
Roger
Roger
September 21, 2024 9:03 am

Apparently Palestinians in Lebanon don’t get the royal treatment.

Bear in mind that Hezbollah is the de facto ruling entity in Lebanon.

If Palestinians there are marginalised by state policies, it’s because Hezbollah endorses it as useful to their purposes there.

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Indolent
Indolent
September 21, 2024 9:03 am
Indolent
Indolent
September 21, 2024 9:05 am
Indolent
Indolent
September 21, 2024 9:08 am
Indolent
Indolent
September 21, 2024 9:09 am

@VividProwess

Hezbollah has fired over 250 rockets and missiles toward Israeli civilians since this morning with one intention only: to kill as many as possible.

Has the United Nations said a word?

Has any mainstream media said a word?

Where is the outrage?

m0nty
m0nty
September 21, 2024 9:13 am

Trump most definitely speaks gibberish, it’s a common function of getting old – Biden was the same on the stump. Harris speaks in technocrat jargon, reminiscent of Rudd with his programmatic specificity.

Is one better than the other? You have to work at decoding both of them. There is always a meaning hidden under the argot, you just have to pay attention.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 21, 2024 9:14 am

So, the MCA has gone from heavyweight Hugh Morgan to lightweight woke Tania Constable. […]

Memo to Ms Constable, you supped with the devil. The devil always has the last laugh.

For most of her career Mz Constable has been feeding at the devil’s table:

Prior to joining the MCA, Tania was Chief Executive Officer of the Collaborative Research Centre for Greenhouse Gas Technologies a leading global research organisation testing carbon capture and storage low emission technologies in Australia.

Tania previously worked as chief adviser in the Personal and Retirement Income Division of Treasury, working on tax-related matters, and has had a long association with resources and energy, holding various senior executive roles in the Australian Government. Tania had responsibility for policy advice to the Minister for Industry on oil and gas regulation, exploration and development, and sustainable mining activities.

During this time Ms Constable also had the privilege of being the Australian Joint Commissioner and Sunrise Commissioner for Australia and Timor Leste, leading joint activities on the development of the Joint Petroleum Development Area and Greater Sunrise Project.

?She was awarded the Public Service Medal in 2014 for outstanding public service in the development of Australia’s liquefied natural gas and other resource and energy industries.

She may have zero experience working in businesses exploring, appraising, financing, developing, and operating resources projects, but she certainly knows how to use Satan’s cutlery.

100% Stockholm.

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Roger
Roger
September 21, 2024 9:17 am

Classroom classics revolution could save our failing society

Greg Sheridan, The Australian, 20 September 2024

Nothing is failing in Western societies more completely, and more tragically, than school education. This is especially so in Australia. Billions upon billions of new dollars – Gonski funding, NAPLAN funding, state promises, federal commitments – and yet the results, even measured in narrow, utilitarian, technical terms, get ever worse and we sink further down the international education league tables.

We cram every ideological fad into the curriculum – safe schools, reconciliation, gender theory, race theory, decolonisation, peace studies, green worship, net zero hymns and devotions – yet division, alienation, even violence, spread.

Even as we’ve sometimes banned the use of mobile phones in school hours, we’ve flooded our schools with gadgets – laptops and iPads and endless, endless screens. But instead of producing citizens who master technology discerningly for their beneficial use, the memes and screens have fried our children’s brains, the relentless giddy, dizzy images, bright colours, dark colours, dopamine hits, changing images, fluid images, rapid image turnover, relentless distraction, have destroyed childhood, eaten adolescence and blighted young adulthood.

We’ve sub-let our thinking out to algorithms, and in the process all but abolished deep learning, while embracing the terror of the screens.

But there’s a way back.

Perhaps the most dramatic and hopeful development in all Western culture right now is the rapidly growing movement in the US, which is also gaining traction in Australia, for an approach of classical education in high schools. This is the same as what is often called the liberal arts approach.

It’s huge in the US, with 750-odd classical high schools and 100,000 students. Growing and growing.

It’s just getting started in Australia. I’ve been investigating this in recent months, on both coasts of the US and in three Australian states.

This is a road back to sanity, learning and truth in education. A road back to depth and texture in life. A road back to intellectual substance and enchantment.

If we’re lucky, these students will form eventually a leadership cadre in our culture.

What does classical education mean?

Mary Broadsmith, principal of Harkaway Hills College, a newish girls school in eastern Melbourne, which is not fully a classical school but has moved strongly in that ­direction, says: “We want students to pursue the good, the true and the beautiful.”

Frank Monagle, the founding principal last year of Sydney’s Hartford Academy (Ian Mejia is the principal this year), believes state education systems have a narrowly utilitarian ideology.

“The purpose of education was seen as getting a job,” he says.

“The true purpose of education is to help young people be the best young people they can be.”

Kenneth Crowther, the principal of the new St John Henry Newman School in Brisbane, which will take its first students in 2026, was a teacher for years before he embraced classical education.

“I realised there were deeper purposes around what it means to be a human being,” he says.

“We have this educational inheritance that we’ve rejected. I saw so much alienation. Fifteen-year-olds would say to me, ‘why am I studying Shakespeare, when will I use Shakespeare in a job?’

“This represented an ideology of utilitarianism, instead of seeing Shakespeare as a way to deeper meaning and purpose.”

Peter Crawford, academic dean of the US Institute of Catholic Liberal Education, whom I met in Napa, California, says: “The purpose of education is to teach children the art of being free.”

He adds: “A school first of all is a community.”

Claire Whereat, the secondary school head at Toowoomba Christian College, is another who, along with her school, which was established in 1979 and has 800 students, has been on a journey to a liberal arts approach. “We had to ask ourselves what is the purpose of education? The purpose of education is to form young people of wisdom,” she says. “A wise young person is able to engage in any topic with a critical understanding of truth, beauty and goodness. Wisdom is also for everyday life.”

All of these schools are classical, or liberal arts, schools up to a point. In Australia, every registered school, especially an independent school, needs to follow state and national curricula. But they can still organise much of their school’s effort around classical principles.

All these schools are explicitly Christian. In classical education, the idea of integrated understanding – as a Christian might say, all truth is God’s truth – is a central organising principle. An integrated understanding of the world leads to an integrated human being. But in the US many classical education schools, and many liberal arts colleges, are not religious. There are 50-odd Great Hearts Charter Schools, funded by government but with a local community given a charter of indepen­dence. They’re not religious but they still study the Great Books. This is not only for religious believers, though much of humanity’s greatest thinking focuses on God.

The school’s mission is to equip students in spirit, soul, and body to serve the Living God in today’s world. As a Christian school rooted in the Liberal Arts tradition, they believe this educational approach best fulfills their purpose. What does it mean to be a…

So what does classical education consist of at the practical level of teaching and content?

From speaking to dozens of teachers, principals, parents, students, movement leaders, education administrators and curriculum developers, I would offer the following summary.

Classical education offers the student an integrated understanding of life, culture, knowledge and the meaning of being a human being. It gives students direct exposure to what English poet Matthew Arnold called “the best that has been thought and said”, the greatest of the Great Books.

It promotes an intellectually sophisticated encounter with these writers through Socratic ­dialogues. It offers the thrill of chronological, deep history and the finest literature. As Crowther comments: “Contemporary education fails in giving students an understanding of how the (modern) world came about.”

Thus, a classical school student may study ancient Greek civilisation in history at the same time as reading ancient Greek plays in literature. If the school teaches philosophy and theology, as many do, that too will be co-ordinated.

Says Crowther: “The unity between subjects is very important in classical education. The modern system is very fragmented. The subjects don’t connect up.”

Socratic dialogue is critical. Students might have read Dostoevsky’s Crime and Punishment, then explore in discussion the nature of evil. This inculcates moral education and accustoms students to disagreeing with each other, profoundly and passionately, but civilly, in friendship.

Many classical schools teach Latin, the most accessible of the classical languages, in which many of the greatest works, from ancient Rome through to the late Middle Ages, are written. Studying Latin helps students master English grammar, and understand the roots and history of words.

In the most junior years, children might begin their classical exposure through Aesop’s Fables or Arthurian legends. In Australian schools they’ll meet Snugglepot and Cuddlepie.

In the early years there’s an emphasis on play, but also on explicit instruction, led by the teacher, and on rote learning. Learning times tables and English grammar provides foundational knowledge, but also exercises brain muscle, memory, attention span.

In the US recently I journeyed out from Washington DC to Annapolis in Maryland, to spend an afternoon and evening with the Chesterton Academy of Annapolis.

I was met at a nearby rail station by Azin Cleary, who founded the school with her husband, Bill. She’s originally Iranian. The family left Iran when Azin was a teenager so her brother could avoid the army in the Iran/Iraq war. In the US she fell in love with Bill, a dashing air force pilot. He wasn’t very religious but told her he wanted to get married in a church, was pro-life, and wanted to bring his kids up Catholic.

Azin was fine with that. She was a disengaged Muslim and felt no pressure to change her religion. It was years later that she herself ­became Christian.

The classical education movement is extremely ecumenical. The Annapolis Chesterton Academy, although a school in the Catholic tradition, rents its space from a Lutheran church, to which it’s a close friend.

Two things are striking. First, it’s named after GK Chesterton, an English journalist – my hero – who died nearly a hundred years ago. Chesterton and CS Lewis, who died in the 1950s, are inspirations to the classical education movement. It reveres them, two of the most prodigiously gifted Christian writers of the 20th century, because they bring everything together. They wrote theology, biography, newspaper columns, novels, poetry, adventure stories, profound theological meditations. And they exuded joy.

The Chesterton schools movement has been going just 15 years but already has 62 high schools in the US and 10 overseas. Bill and Azin hadn’t heard of Chesterton when they were looking for something better for their kids. The Chesterton network provided them a full template for a classical school.

“It’s good to have someone tell you what to do when you don’t know what you’re doing,” Bill says modestly. Now they love Chesterton.

The school’s other striking feature is its no-gadgets policy. Students hand their phones in every morning. But also, throughout their entire school learning, they don’t use laptops, iPads or anything else. The fees are $US11,700 a year. That’s cheaper than many good Catholic schools, but the families typically have iPads and the like at home. The kids all have phones. They get computers. But school time is a screen-free oasis, a time for deep learning.

State school curriculum requirements are much less prescriptive than in Australia so classical schools can design the program they want. At the Chesterton Academy, the curriculum is full and demanding. For all four years of their senior secondary schooling, students study the humanities, maths and science, and the fine arts. In the humanities, they spend what Americans call Freshman Year in the ancient world. In literature: Homer, Aeschylus, Virgil and a book by Chesterton; in history: ancient Greece and Rome; in philosophy: Plato, Aristotle and formal logic; in theology: Old Testament. In Sophomore Year literature: Augustine, Chaucer, Shakespeare and Chesterton on St Francis and on Orthodoxy; history: early church and early medieval; philosophy: Plato and Aristotle; theology: New Testament. In Junior Year literature: Dante, Shakespeare, Cervantes, plus Chesterton on Thomas Aquinas; history: Renaissance, Reformation, and Counter-Reformation; philosophy: Aquinas, Descartes, Hobbes; theology: the Catholic Catechism. And in senior year literature: Goethe, Dickens, Dostoevsky, Orwell, plus Chesterton’s classic, The Everlasting Man; history: American and French Revolutions, US Civil War, World Wars I and II, communist revolutions; philosophy: Locke, Rousseau, US Founding Fathers, Marx and more Chesterton.

In all four years, students study Latin and practise debate, take maths and science, practise and study art (really the history of art), practise and study music, and stage plays, including in senior year a full-length Shakespeare. And of course they play sport.

That is a rich and taxing educational experience. Not every student could manage it, not every school could attempt it. Notice there are no elective choices for students? This is extremely sensible.

When I was at secondary school, English, maths, science and history were compulsory. We could choose an elective combination either of Latin and French, or commerce and geography. I’m profoundly grateful I studied Latin and French and didn’t have elective choices, at age 14, like guitar, environment studies, or, as in some American schools, “forensics”, in which kids actually get to waste their time watching NCIS episodes and pretend it’s school work.

No electives and no gadgets at all, and the students graduating from Chesterton Academy are blitzing college entrance exams and pursuing stellar academic and professional careers. If you can think well and hard, and read deeply, you can master anything.

Some US states actively promote classical education. Florida recognises the Classical Learning Test as the equivalent to the SAT for college admission.

That night I had dinner with Bill and Azin, five of their six kids, Azin’s mum, and a school board member, at the Clearys’ home. They may be the nicest people I’ve ever met. The kids are years ahead of their respective age groups in conversation and sophistication. Nor do they automatically agree with each other, with me, or with their parents. But also, they actually seem to like their parents, and even to find the conversation of a visiting journalist from Australia worth turning up for. The oldest son, Matthew, a college student, after dinner drives me all the way back to Washington and is an ­absorbing conversationalist.

Kids at this Chesterton Academy are lucky. But classical, or liberal arts, education is a broad movement. There are lots of different shades of emphasis, different intensities. Australian liberal arts schools also de-emphasise gadgets. But because NAPLAN assessments have foolishly gone online, no school now can banish gadgets altogether. Some classical schools have classes on gadgets to acquire particular skills, typing or coding, but don’t use them in most classes.

Whereat tells me the science is conclusive. When students take notes by hand they can’t write as quickly as when they type, so they actually have to process and select information much more actively. They learn better taking notes by hand than typing notes on an iPad.

Broadsmith comments: “One of the problems we have is not that students aren’t interested (in deep learning) but they’ve been taught that everything has to be fast and snappy.” Students see devices not as paths to contemplation but as sources of entertainment and distraction. Efforts to ban social media for kids are a tiny recognition that gadgets fry brains.

No Australian school could produce a curriculum like the Chesterton Academy because of the state requirements, which are obviously necessary for accountability but seem to emphasise mediocrity, ideology, narrowness in the faux service of choice, triviality, incoherence.

Claire Whereat tells Inquirer that the Toowoomba Christian College secondary literature curriculum includes Shakespeare, Dickens, Jane Austen, Louisa May Alcott, Pilgrim’s Progress, To Kill a Mocking Bird. They’re all good choices.

She also makes a profound point about teaching history chronologically: “You can’t understand where Australia has come from if you don’t understand the Judeo-Christian background, or the Westminster system.”

All the classical or liberal arts schools teach grammar. She says: “We spend a lot of time looking at beautiful words, looking closely at what words mean, their Latin and Greek roots.”

NSW schools enjoy one happy curriculum freedom because of the legacy of former premier Bob Carr. Monagle says: “Carr saved history as a discipline.”

In other states history has been rolled into geography and social studies and mangled into a thousand incoherent pieces, often at best a few isolated case studies and relentless agitprop.

Carr recalls: “I insisted on maintaining the traditional disciplines. I wanted curriculum rigour. I insisted history remain a separate subject. History could be defined as what happened next and why. I also reinstated traditional grammar, and corrected the retirement of Shakespeare from English courses.”

Carr wrote his own version of a guide to the Great Books in his much-neglected My Reading Life, which is a classic of sorts in Australian letters. He thinks now a suitably supple Great Books approach has a lot to recommend it.

Dedicated classical and liberal arts schools are just beginning in Australia. But existing schools, especially Catholic and Christian schools, are increasingly examining this option. It’s a trend. It’s the future.

In an important recent speech, Sydney Catholic Archbishop Anthony Fisher argued for a move to a more integrated liberal arts approach in Catholic schools. He asked: “How might we cultivate a more expansive educational environment, whereby all academic disciplines interconnect and serve the transmission of faith and development of the whole child?”

In a distressed and bleeding culture, these schools are field hospitals; perhaps more than that – base camps; perhaps more than that – signs of a new creation.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 21, 2024 9:22 am

Here you go Monty.

Kamala Harris Gives 90-Word Rambling Response About Plan to Reduce Soaring Costs (20 Sep)

Cringefest Townhall: Worse than Biden Off-Script! Exasperated Oprah Has to Step in After Word Salad (20 Sep*)

Throughout the evening, Vice President Word Salad Annie refused to answer a single question or make news. But things got especially awkward when Oprah hit her limit on Kamala’s nonsense.

A young man asked Kamala a very straightforward question: “What will be your specific steps for strengthening the border?”

That’s it. That’s all the guy asked. That’s not a loaded question. It’s a softball. But here’s what he got and here’s what I think was going through Oprah’s head over the next interminable three minutes (the quotes from Kamala are real)…

I won’t put up the quotes, but needless to say she didn’t answer the question. She never does.

(* mainpage headline)

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 21, 2024 9:22 am

Cassie at 8:23.
The article by Uhlmann is spot on.
As is the quote about directors shitting themselves if a couple of activists show up in the foyer or at the AGM.
But interesting that he still doesn’t go on the record to be quoted directly.
The real test is yet to come.
Who will be first to attack Blackout Bowen and Luigi the Unbelievable directly and publicly over the renewballs scam?

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JC
JC
September 21, 2024 9:24 am
Roger
Roger
September 21, 2024 9:25 am

How his crimes and his ego poisoned Indigenous affairs all the way up to the Voice

Paige Taylor, The Australian, 20 September, 2024

Just the sight of Geoff Clark made some Australians want to vote No to the Indigenous voice. And that suited him. The former chairman of the Aboriginal and Torres Strait ­Islander Commission arrived at the landmark Uluru convention in 2017 to make the case against an Indigenous advisory body in the Constitution. When he complained there had been “no consultation” on the long walk towards a referendum, Aboriginal people familiar with his methods knew he meant there had been insufficient deference to him.

For proponents of the voice, Clark’s interventions during the campaign were as unwelcome as they were unsurprising.

“It was always about Geoff Clark,” said Geoff Scott, once an acting chief executive of ATSIC. “His story is a very sad one for the whole Aboriginal community. It cast that shadow over everything”.

Clark, now 72, is in prison awaiting sentencing for stealing almost $1m from the Aboriginal community in rural Victoria that he had ruled for decades.

His criminal downfall has prompted an outpouring of regret, anger and even grief from Aboriginal leaders and policy makers, who see Clark as the symbol of 25 years of dysfunction and corruption in Indigenous affairs.

An outline of the prosecution case, released by the Victorian County Court, shows the police investigation was lengthy and complex. It took about 11 years for police to unravel Clark’s offending over 16 years.

One whistleblower – an Aboriginal elder – died waiting for the outcome. There were four trials, each subject to suppression orders until this month. Clark’s critics ­describe him as intelligent, but the court documents suggest he got sloppy at some point.

For example, Clark committed perjury when he swore an affidavit in which he stated he did not hold any real estate. The prosecution showed Clark held three properties and legal title for each of these was registered in his name.

“He kept a folder marked ‘Geoff’s houses and land’ at his house in which he stored documents pertaining to his purchase and improvement of these properties over the years,” the prosecution stated.

Clark is not only a thief, he is a great wrecker in the modern era of Indigenous affairs, according to Fred Chaney.

It was around 2000 when Chaney – who had been Malcolm Fraser’s Indigenous affairs minister – watched in awe as Clark gave a compelling and succinct explanation of ATSIC’s work towards a treaty. “Clark was a person of terrific ability who, as it turned out, had so many ugly aspects to his character,” Chaney said. “The trouble with terrific ability is that, when badly used, it is disastrous. Clark brought the whole thing undone because it was his personal reputation that enabled ATSIC to be attacked so effectively … he provided ammunition for the assimilationists to pull down Aboriginal organisational structures notwithstanding those structures were operating more effectively than the ones they replaced.

“It’s been all downhill in Indigenous affairs since.”

By 2001, Clark was embroiled in a power struggle with his deputy, Ray Robinson, and fending off allegations from four women who said he raped them. A special audit did not uncover fraud at ATSIC. Regardless, perceptions were growing that the organisation was problematic.

In 2002 the Brisbane Courier-Mail aired allegations that Robinson, the deputy, had received money to which he was not ­entitled from a taxpayer-funded organisation. In 2011, after a retrial, Robinson was put on a good ­behaviour bond after being found guilty of misappropriating $45,000, part of the proceeds from the sale of 10 cars owned by community-based Aboriginal corporations formerly under his control. His appeal was dismissed in 2012.

Noongar lawyer Hannah McGlade recalls that in the early 2000s, ATSIC at the federal level was a men’s club characterised by sleaze and disrespect to Aboriginal women. She was an ATSIC executive, hired for her qualifications in international human rights law to work on treaty, yet she said Clark spoke down to her.

When McGlade was invited to a human rights convention in Ireland, she asked ATSIC for permission to attend but could not get an answer. McGlade quit ­ before she found out why. “It became untenable after the sexual assault allegations against Clark,” she said.

McGlade turned her anger into a PhD about sexual assault and ­violence against Aboriginal women and children, and became an even stronger advocate for them. She later learned from a story in The Australian that Clark had taken her work trip to Ireland, and stayed only two nights at the week-long convention.

Freedom of Information documents showed he toured Ireland with his wife and friends, with stopovers in London and Singapore. In all, Clark’s week abroad in 2022 cost the taxpayer $31,000 or $50,200 in today’s money. McGlade says Aboriginal women did excellent work at ATSIC, especially in the regions, but they were not properly ­acknowledged for this under Clark’s leadership.

Clark’s tenure was a contrast to ATSIC’s early years when Aboriginal women were in charge. Pat Turner was the chief executive from 1994 to 1998 and Lowitja O’Donoghue was the government-appointed chair from 1990 to 1996. Turner went on to rewrite the Closing the Gap agreement with Scott Morrison. When O’Donoghue died in February aged 91, Noel Pearson described her as the greatest Indigenous leader of the modern era.

He said her six years as chairwoman were “ATSIC’s best years”.

“They were years of great ­coherence in Indigenous affairs, before the national commission’s subsequent poor leadership played into the hands of the Howard government’s antipathy to all things Indigenous,” Pearson said in his tribute to O’Donoghue.

Amanda Vanstone was the minister who suspended Clark in 2003 after he was convicted for­ obstructing police during a pub brawl. “He was a sharp one, he was always being nice to me saying things like ‘you’re all right, not like all your Coalition mates’. Full on blatant sucking up really,” she said.

Vanstone recalls a detective phoned her about Clark more than 10 years ago. Those were the early days of Operation Omega which slowly established how Clark had stolen from the Framlingham Aboriginal Trust and three related entities. Across multiple trials, Clark was found guilty of 25 charges. His son, Jeremy Clark, 51, was found guilty of seven charges including theft and false accounting.

Vanstone says she is particularly troubled by corruption in Indigenous organisations because of who it deprives. “The key thing is that when you have people up the top creaming the money out of Indigenous affairs, people underneath aren’t getting it,” she said.

“In that sense, corruption in ­Indigenous affairs is more detrimental than some other areas because it is at the expense of people for whom life really is very difficult. There are plenty of really good people genuinely trying to do the right thing and then you have others helping themselves and their family, hurting people who need the most help.”

Though Clark was reinstated the year after Vanstone suspended him over the pub brawl conviction, John Howard’s gutting of ATSIC was under way in 2004. Labor’s then leader, Mark Latham, made abolishing ATSIC an election promise. On March 16, 2005, parliament disbanded the federal body that had been elected by Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people to be responsible for half the commonwealth budget for ­Indigenous-specific programs.

Clark was never convicted of rape. However, a jury at a 2007 civil trial found he led two pack rapes at Warrnambool in March and April 1971.

Aboriginal entrepreneur Sean Gordon, a conservative who supported the Indigenous voice, said Clark should have resigned as chairman for the good of ATSIC. However, Gordon says that the Howard government’s decision to shut ATSIC down rather than deal in the usual way with an organisation’s leadership problems has had lasting ramifications.

“I have no doubt it was on ­people’s minds during the voice debate,” Gordon said.

“That government response to ATSIC is inconsistent with their response to other elected representative bodies such as local government authorities.

“When they are dysfunctional they aren’t wound up but are put into administration and councillors replaced. The body itself ­remains intact … unfortunately we got special treatment.”

Vanstone herself was not entirely sure that abolishing all of ATSIC was the answer.

Mick Gooda, Australia’s former social justice commissioner, told The Weekend Australian that ­Aboriginal people knew Vanstone had fought and lost in cabinet to keep the regional councils.

Vanstone confirmed she saw the value of ATSIC in the bush.

“I do have a slight lingering doubt about getting rid of all the regional offices,” she said. “I did think at the time it might be worth keeping some of the regional offices for the purposes of getting information from those offices and feeding it into Canberra.”

In her travels as a minister, Vanstone said she saw first hand the disconnect between the government and its Aboriginal constituents in regional and remote areas. She said she also saw people living in appalling conditions while their land councils or Aboriginal corporations managed many millions of dollars.

“I still think and worry about what we need to do,” she said. “Once you’ve had Indigenous ­affairs you never let go of the things you have seen.”

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 21, 2024 9:28 am

ZK2A:

Welcomes to country are a mark of mutual respectJust like toasts at birthday parties or speeches at weddings, welcomes to country are sometimes over-cooked or strike the wrong chord. But conducted properly at the right events, this practice enriches all of us and furthers reconciliation.

“Welcome to Country” is a conversation between someone who owns the country, to some who doesn’t belong there.
It’s a lot like a dog pissing on a lamp post – with Whitey being the lamp post.

m0nty
m0nty
September 21, 2024 9:30 am

Yes Bruce, politicians waffle in response to direct questions to avoid being pinned down on future policy decisions. This happens all the time with every politician, yes, including Trump. It’s frustrating, but understandable given how gotcha-crazy the media is.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 21, 2024 9:32 am

Still live streaming as I write but caught some of latest Megyn Kelly interview with Daily Mail journalist Maureen Callaghan.

Topics covered :
ABC debate assistance to Kamala (the post above about Laura Loomer and filing with SEC is very interesting – however they need to get details out there as election close and public needs to know)
Kamala interview by Oprah. Megyn thinks Kamala would have been given the questions.
Jill Biden in cabinet meeting. Then discussion on P Diddy Coombs (he is never getting out).

Whilst I listen to various podcasters like Joe Rogan, Tim Pool, Patrick Beth David etc I think for research and analysis, particularly if there is a legal angle, then Megyn is one of the best. Good guests.

I also caught a bit of Triggenometry guys with historian Sir Niall Ferguson. They were talking about the so called historian who appeared on Tucker Carlson. Ferguson had never heard of him before and said he looked him up and the “historian” has not written a single book on history. He was not impressed with Tucker.

Black Ball
Black Ball
September 21, 2024 9:34 am

The ruling caste hates your guts. Another far queue for Joe Public. Hun:

Victoria’s 54,000 public servants are set to pocket up to $3000 extra pay into their bank accounts this week – in a move set to cost taxpayers tens of millions of dollars.

The one-off annual payment follows a $5600 cost of living bonus they received earlier this year and comes ahead of shift workers in the public service who are set to gain a $1000 cash bonus from next month.

Public servants will each get between $709 and $3108 – based on their pay grade – as part of a special windfall in their new pay deal to compensate them for being moved from one department to another in times of crisis.

FMD. Useless parasites.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 21, 2024 9:36 am

Cats, your Democrat talking points word for the day is “escalation”.

Could Israel’s calculus for war be shifting to escalation? (Paywallian mainpage headline)

Difficult conversation – Macron to Netanyahu: Show responsibility and prevent escalation (21 Sep)

Austin to Gallant after Beirut strike: Concerned over the recent escalation (20 Sep)

UN after Beirut strike: We urge all parties to deescalate immediately (21 Sep)

This is so predictable. Escalate away Israel, doing exactly opposite of what these people urge seems to be an excellent strategy.

Roger
Roger
September 21, 2024 9:37 am

She was awarded the Public Service Medal in 2014 for outstanding public service in the development of Australia’s liquefied natural gas and other resource and energy industries.

The Australian prog-left establishment do love their medals despite their professed egalitarianism.

Which is funny, because it’s a holdover from the imperial honours system.

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Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 21, 2024 9:41 am

Indolent from last night 10:04 pm
Labour Rocked By New Exposé
The comment “Israels war machine” at 4:44. Does he care to discuss that one? Doesn’t Israel have the right to defend itself?

Roger
Roger
September 21, 2024 9:42 am

I also caught a bit of Triggenometry guys with historian Sir Niall Ferguson. They were talking about the so called historian who appeared on Tucker Carlson. Ferguson had never heard of him before and said he looked him up and the “historian” has not written a single book on history. He was not impressed with Tucker.

He was once impressed with Tucker, but no more.

I’m not a great one for watching podcasts but I make an exception for Kisin and that one was particularly good.

[a link for JC :D]

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Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 21, 2024 9:45 am

Many of the fine upstanding Hollywood/ music elite who want people to vote for Kamala are the same people who kept quiet about Harvey Weinstein and attended P Diddy’s parties.

Megyn Kelly did mention tapes have been seized from Diddy’s house. Going to be a lot of very stressed out celebrities. Justin Bieber, Usher and Aston Kuchner are ones being mentioned in past few days.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 21, 2024 9:50 am

Megyn Kelly did mention tapes have been seized from Diddy’s house.

Betcha they end up in that big warehouse, in a box on the shelf between the Ark of the Covenant and Epstein’s little black book.

Rosie
Rosie
September 21, 2024 9:54 am

Justin Bieber is emerging as potential prey more than anything else according to X.
He was 15 in one filmed exchange with Diddy, about whom I know Diddly, a rap entrepreneur?

bons
bons
September 21, 2024 10:02 am

He had refused U.S. decorations during World War II, saying that it was not proper for him to accept such honors as chief of staff and while men were dying.”

A certain A Campbell of the ADF vehemently rejects this noble policy.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 21, 2024 10:05 am

Another good video from Jeff Taylor:
German ‘far right’ on the verge of SHOCKING win!
Comment:

“It’s NOT the “right-wing” Jeff, it’s simply people who care about their country and their people and are not corporate activists portraying themselves as “politicians” like those currently in power across the Western world.”

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Good point – the Left want to frame the rejection of their policies as part of the Lift/Right divide. It’s not. The fight is between authoritarianism and subjugation.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 21, 2024 10:06 am

Chris Kenny on Welcome to Country has blown up Teh Weekend Paywallian. 1531 comments at last count and you would struggle to find any in support.

1735099
1735099
September 21, 2024 10:07 am

There’s something about Queensland politics that favours symmetry.

If you care to go back to 1916, you’ll note that T J Ryan, the Queensland Labor Premier was in no-holds-barred conflict with Billy Hughes, Prime Minister, over many things, including conscription.

This was the era of the famous Warwick egg incident, although much of what was going on at the time was a reflection of personality politics between Ryan and Hughes.

Move forward to 1975, and we see a similar state-federal conflict between Whitlam and Bjelke-Petersen. Except that the party allegiances were reversed, the situation was uncannily similar – two politicians with large egos fighting tooth and nail. The replacement of Bert Milliner with Albert Field by Bjelke-Petersen was just one of the more bizarre events during this period.

After the Labor split in Queensland in 1957, the Coalition was in power until 1989. This period of 32 years saw entrenched corruption take hold in the police force, leading to the Fitzgerald Report and the demise of conservative government.

Again, move ahead to the present era, and we see a Labor government of more than 20 years reduced to a political rump in 2012 after corruption and incompetence took hold. The pattern is the same as what occurred in the late eighties, only the politics are reversed.

It looks as if Labor will be booted out in October, although probably not by the margins of 2012, and the results for Greens and Independents might be interesting.

Why does this happen in Queensland?

In the first place, the lack of an upper house means that the shock absorbing effect of such a chamber is absent. Queensland politics, will, I believe, continue to lurch from one extreme to the other as a result. Strong personalities with untrammelled power will always have a tendency to overreach. It has happened too often in Queensland to be a coincidence.

In addition, Queensland is essentially regional in culture. This means that there is always competition between competing regional interests. Usually it’s the bush versus the South East corner. When the two interests get together and get organised through the formation of a political alliance (in this case the amalgamated LNP) a great deal of political power results. It’s taken the conservative side of politics a long time to wake up to this salient fact, and now that they have, they are reaping the rewards.

The old saying – “All power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely” is specifically applicable in Queensland. Understand that, understand symmetry, and you begin to understand our politics.

Non-Queenslanders, as a rule, don’t.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 21, 2024 10:16 am

Harris speaks in technocrat jargon, reminiscent of Rudd with his programmatic specificity.

Harris speaks with the hackneyed politicians’ trick of making noise without actually saying anything. Off the same content base, she would sound pretty much the same explaining cold fusion as she does stating her policies to address cost of living pressures.

Slightly different to Rudd, who tortures the English language because he thinks it makes him sound profound.

Tom
Tom
September 21, 2024 10:20 am

I won’t put up the quotes, but needless to say she didn’t answer the question. She never does.

Most of Harris’s coaching so far has been in avoiding policy questions and in ways to waffle when she is asked policy questions.

I realise most of the left’s strategy in the US presidential election is based on the belief that normies will believe whatever they’re told to believe by the news media.

Of course, lefty strategists don’t really believe people are that stupid.

But the selection of a radical leftist as Harris’s running male tells me the Dems have no intention of running on policy and will instead use cheating to rig the outcome.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 21, 2024 10:20 am

Here you go Numbers.

Latest poll spells disaster for Miles with five weeks until Qld election (Sky News mainpage headline, 21 Sep)

Queensland Premier Steven Miles is facing a major defeat in the state election, with the latest survey predicting the Liberal National Party will form majority government.

Mr Miles is at risk of losing the state’s top job not even a year into taking the position from former Labor leader Annastacia Palaszczuk who stepped down late in 2023.

According to a Newspoll conducted for The Australian ahead of the election campaign, the David Crisafulli-led LNP is 10 points clear of Labor 55 to 45 after preferences.

It is an 8.2 per cent swing against Labor from the 2020 election and would mean the LNP will claim a majority of 55 of the 93 seats in parliament after the October 26 poll.

The LNP are not exactly what you could call inspiring, especially since Crisafulli won’t back nuclear, but the mess Miles has made suggests the baseball bats are out.

Roger
Roger
September 21, 2024 10:25 am

German ‘far right’ on the verge of SHOCKING win!

Speaking of which…a headline this week in Berlin’s mass circulation daily:

Hilfe, mein Kind rutscht nach rechts!

Help, my child is becoming right wing! 

It’s a surging trend among German youth, apparently.

The article includes “eight tips for democratic parents with undemocratic children” courtesy a social worker.

Including family pizza nights where the subjects of politics and immigration are verboten.

That’ll work.

Chuckle.

Bear in mind the policies of Alternative for Germany are basically those of the centre-right pre-Merkel.

h/t eugyppius @ substack

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calli
calli
September 21, 2024 10:29 am

And good morning to you too Ellie!

It’s a beautiful day. Enjoy it.

Ellie
Ellie
September 21, 2024 10:34 am

I went to palates this morning. Trying to get all bendy. Saw a queer queen at the bus stop. In Paddo of all places! He/she tried to converse with me, but being a far right, closed minded bigot, I told him to feck off. Last I saw he/she was heading for the library. I hope he/she is being followed by the fixated person’s unit.

Roger
Roger
September 21, 2024 10:37 am

The LNP are not exactly what you could call inspiring

Or “extreme.”

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
September 21, 2024 10:44 am

Harris is well-drilled on an easy, ancient trick- waving her hands in front of her face, tossing her head around and la-ha-ha-halfing when discourse is inconvenient.
Ardern was a master at it, too.
It’s an indictment on our inconvenient interviewer class that they have the attention span of twitchy TikTok eyeballs.

Roger
Roger
September 21, 2024 10:48 am

Keir Starmer (+ his wife) and several senior members of his Cabinet have received thousands of pounds in gifts, mostly clothing, since coming into office.

It seems their generous salaries aren’t enough to keep shirts on their backs.

Starmer has been leading an austerity drive which included breaking a promise to pensioners not to cut their winter fuel allowance.

I sense a winter of discontent looms in the UK.

Roger
Roger
September 21, 2024 10:49 am

Ferguson and Kisin are Regime toadies.

Chuckle.

Now who’s triggered?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 21, 2024 10:58 am

A nice comment from Aces.

They convinced Hez they were being tracked by their cellphones. They supplied Hez with “safer” pagers. Then they blew up the pagers. Hez then switched to walkies. Israel anticipated that, and pre-placed explosive walkies. Israel blew up the walkies. Hez decided all electronic comms were unsafe, so they held in-person meetings. THEN ISRAEL BLEW UP THE IN PERSON MEETINGS.
….
And apparently the only bit Nullbolocks werent paying for was the meeting location.
If that turns out to be rented from an Israeli as well.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 21, 2024 10:58 am

Fascinating story for naval and military Cats:

As World Watches Explosions Elsewhere, the Boomsday Ship Gets Towed Past Norway (19 Sep)

Recently a truck carrying 40 tonnes of ammonium nitrate blew a very large hole in the Bruce Highway. This floating bomb is carrying 20,000 tonnes of the stuff.

Indolent
Indolent
September 21, 2024 11:02 am
Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 21, 2024 11:03 am

“It’s revealing how ‘triggered’ the Regime was by that segment of the Tucker interview”.

Actually the problem was Tucker introduced the historian as though he was the most well known historian in USA. The reality is he is far from it. As Ferguson said not written one historical book and basically a podcaster

I don’t know many US historians but perhaps Tucker needs to interview Victor Davies Hanson who was also not impressed with the non historian.

bons
bons
September 21, 2024 11:14 am

https://youtu.be/CvP0Turzy7g?si=pwe-6Cl7vt-AEV7u

Dominic Frisby being brilliant again.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 21, 2024 11:18 am

Just replied to John H’s anti-Trumpism below. What John H fails to see is that Trump is big-noting himself to his base using concept to impress them, like IQ and ‘professors’, which are not directed at elites like .. well, like us, here especially any like John H who are non-believers in Trump’s economic efficacy. Trump’s exagerations are staking a claim with his base, not the likes of most of us bookish types. One-of-you not one-of-them, he’s saying.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 21, 2024 11:51 am

Brought a waterproof lock for the garden shed. Works perfectly. Every bit of water that falls on it gets trapped inside. The best lock I had lasted years, even confounding the local druggies. Cost only a few bucks. The water ran straight through it.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 21, 2024 11:52 am

Paul Joseph Watsom Watson comments on Bald and Bankrupts latest travel video.

Bald does not sugarcoat the truth. India has serious problems, all captured on camera.

Who cares if the Indians are upset. No wonder they are fleeing the joint to come to places like here, Canada the UK and elsewhere.

The squalor is breathtaking.

He’s Made Them Very Angry

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 21, 2024 11:57 am

This could be fun…

SpaceX@SpaceX

Flight 5 Starship moved to the pad at Starbase

5:43 AM · Sep 21, 2024

The reason why it could be fun is that the FAA has told SpaceX that they cannot give a launch date until late November because they need to do environmental studies in case Starship falls onto a fish. (I am not joking.)

Then FAA wanted to fine SpaceX a million Aussie for not waiting for approval after they built some buildings – whilst informing FAA in a timely manner. Elon is now suing FAA over that bureaucratic bastardry.

So the fun thing will be if SpaceX launches Flight 5 Starship without FAA approval. Which they just might.

Arky
September 21, 2024 11:59 am

Kamalala sounds simultaneously pretentious, drunk, constipated and stoned.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 21, 2024 12:03 pm

The Bald and Bankrupt video in full.

I Visited India So You Don’t Have To

Arky
September 21, 2024 12:05 pm

I think Kamalala’s main problem among many, is she’s used to getting what she wants with the little girl voice thingy revolting females do that they think is charming, but she has been told she has to seem “Presidential”.
Her tiny bird brain is flicking between “Marilyn” and “Oprah”, and sometimes suddenly reverts back to “badgering prosecutor”, but “Presidential” is nowhere to be found.
She is also rehearsed to within an inch of her life with lines that are so cheesy I don’t think even she is believing them while she is delivering them.

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Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 21, 2024 12:30 pm

Ze red lines, they are not working!!

PM Netanyahu’s advisor to Arab media: ‘Previous red lines with Hezbollah no longer exist’ (21 Sep)

The head of Iranian Ayatollah Khamenei’s office was reported to have also declared that the response to the assassination of Hamas political leader Ismail Haniyeh “is coming soon.”

Sounds like a great time for all excellent Iranian regime kiddies to dust off those lead lined underpants. Israel has roughly 90 nuclear weapons, and I suspect all of them are hydrogen bombs.

Ellie
Ellie
September 21, 2024 12:35 pm

There is a reason I left social media when I entered rehab. Toxic, self absorbed waste. Back to shock treatment.

m0nty
m0nty
September 21, 2024 12:37 pm

Trump explains his policies clearly, like the no tax on tips (which Kamala then stole) and the no tax on overtime. Plus of course building the wall and drill baby drill.

Trump’s tip tax policy was a lurk for hedge funders and lawyers to lower their income tax. Harris’s version was a real tax cut aimed exclusively at low-paid workers, with no dodgy loopholes for the rich.

Vance has told us all we need to know about how Trump would gut Medicare, destroy public services, and blow out inflation with his tariffs, all to fund upper-class tax cuts. Reaganism revisited.

m0nty
m0nty
September 21, 2024 12:40 pm

As with “globalists” and “merchant bankers”, when db and his Moldbug-inspired mates invoke the phrase “the Regime”, it is an obvious anti-Semitic dog whistle.

White Robot
White Robot
September 21, 2024 12:40 pm
Ellie
Ellie
September 21, 2024 12:42 pm

In the emojis of calli and pogria ?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 21, 2024 12:58 pm

Roger
 September 21, 2024 9:25 am

How his crimes and his ego poisoned Indigenous affairs all the way up to the Voice

Plenty comes to mind in reading the article about Geoff Clark, but to suggest he is the sole cause of dysfunction in The Great Grift that is Aboriginal politics is a bit of a stretch.
And politicians knew that at the time.
ATSIC was finally abolished in 2005, but Clark was convicted in December 2003 on a charge of hindering police.
As this offence carried a potential jail term, Clark would have been disqualified from ATSIC anyway.
Clark is a symptom, not the cause.

White Robot
White Robot
September 21, 2024 1:10 pm

BoN my estimation of a person’s critical reasoning plummets the moment food is mentioned. Also nahtsiies.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 21, 2024 1:15 pm

Clark is a symptom, not the cause.

True.

it’s not going to be fixed until Australia abolishes having a special group who have their own flag, rules, funding etc – and all the while the ruling class kneels before them in supplication.

Is there anywhere else on the planet where a country has a separate flag for one group within itself? Excepting the “rainbow flag” but actually that’s just the same concept.

Do our fearless leaders really think separatism is a good thing for a country?

Actually many don’t, but they’re now too afraid to say it was a mistake and we need to abolish all of the Aboriginal industry. Close down the “remote communities” and just treat everyone the same.

bons
bons
September 21, 2024 1:20 pm

Racing folks – what is the purpose of the mephistophelean masks that they put on the horsies’ ears and head these days?

shatterzzz
September 21, 2024 1:30 pm

From an, unverified, Hadbollocks military report .. excellent if true ..!
Lotza smilie goats in Lebanon today .. LOL!

– 879 Hezbollah Terrorists died.
– 291 Senior Commanders died.
– 509 Blinded.
– 1,735 injured in “reproductive organs.”
– 613 Permanent function damage.
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https://x.com/intent/like?tweet_id=1837028598177239383

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Delta A
Delta A
September 21, 2024 1:46 pm

 

Top Ender

 September 21, 2024 1:15 pm

Close down the “remote communities” and just treat everyone the same.

March10, 2015, when PM, Tony Abbott made the decision to close remote aboriginal communities. The resultant whining from do-gooders registered on the Richter scale. Brave Sir Tony boldly turned his tail and fled from what would have been a legacy-making decision.

From the Guardian, 2015:

Tony Abbott has shrugged off the decision to close 150 Western Australian remote Indigenous communities, saying the taxpayer should not have to fund people’s “lifestyle choices”.
The WA premier, Colin Barnett, foreshadowed the closure of up to 150 remote communities after the commonwealth said funding for them would soon lapse and fall entirely to the states. The federal government is currently a major contributor to keeping the communities afloat.

Abbott told ABC Radio in Kalgoorlie that Barnett was right to shut down the communities if the cost of providing services outweighed the benefits.
“What we can’t do is endlessly subsidise lifestyle choices if those lifestyle choices are not conducive to the kind of full participation in Australian society that everyone should have,” Abbott said during a visit to the historic city on Tuesday.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 21, 2024 1:58 pm

For those interested in the mechanics of spoiling a Hezbollah day, CNN has an expert to show how. Unsurprisingly, CNN tells us this because of the outrageous risk of damage to innocent bystanders.

[That little piece of sheet compound in the pager contains 4 or 5 grams of PETN.]

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 21, 2024 2:07 pm

– 1,735 injured in “reproductive organs.”

Not much point martyring yourself if you can’t rape reap the reward – those 72 virgins.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
September 21, 2024 2:13 pm

Mr Kerin’s Welcome to Country raised eyebrows when he explained why the ceremony was given at events.

“I’m here this evening to perform a ceremony of Welcome to Country,” Mr Kerin began.

“A Welcome to Country is not a welcome to Australia. Within Australia we have many Aboriginal lands and we refer to our lands as ‘country’.

“So it’s always a welcome to the lands you’ve gathered on.”

There’s an explanation that was long overdue. Yet despite clearing up the ambiguity of the word ‘country’, it still doesn’t really resolve the issue, does it?
For one thing, is it conceivable that Mr Kerin could have had a quick discussion with the elders and decided that the footy fans were not welcome and should all turn around and go home? On what basis could such a decision be enforced?
It’s just rather difficult to look at the issue without the lens of European law intervening. You’re being welcomed by someone who doesn’t own the stadium. That’s one reason this ‘country’ explanation doesn’t quite resolve the controversy. Am interested if Cats can think of another.

JC
JC
September 21, 2024 2:15 pm

People are complaining basically because they didn’t like what he said.

And people like Victor Hanson explained why his commentary was bullshit. Instead of complaining with pejorative terms like regime etc. perhaps you could also add why someone like Hanson is wrong and your boy is correct.

cohenite
September 21, 2024 2:15 pm

Trump most definitely speaks gibberish

Example dickless.

Makka
Makka
September 21, 2024 2:16 pm

– 879 Hezbollah Terrorists died.

– 291 Senior Commanders died.

– 509 Blinded.

– 1,735 injured in “reproductive organs.”

– 613 Permanent function damage

Mossad can’t be reached for comment. They still haven’t stopped pissing themselves rolling on the floor laughing.

cohenite
September 21, 2024 2:17 pm

JC
 September 21, 2024 9:24 am

Cronkite, what the hell is going on?

It’s the soy effect: manifested in men by growing tits; in women by reducing or removing them. Some of these poor rats finally realise they’ve been shafted.

JC
JC
September 21, 2024 2:18 pm

I think Trump wonders a bit at times, but he always circles back to the point being made and offers a direct response.

KamalToe is a fcking moron, and although in a different way, about as bad as Dementia.

Barry
Barry
September 21, 2024 2:27 pm

Welcome to country is always contaminated by payment. Ole boorie mate takes $3000 as rent for your stay, and dresses it up as a welcome. Legally it’s a license, payment for the right to occupy temporarily. The smoking leaves and painted dancing is just window dressing. Goes back to Mabo. That’s why it can never be got rid of. It’s here to stay, part of common law.

cohenite
September 21, 2024 2:27 pm

Trump’s tip tax policy was a lurk for hedge funders and lawyers to lower their income tax. Harris’s version was a real tax cut aimed exclusively at low-paid workers, with no dodgy loopholes for the rich.

Alright dickless it’s plain you’re just piss taking.

Trump lowered company tax rates from the highest to the lowest and enabled the highest rate of US employment, particularly of minorities, post WW11 as all the foreign based corps rushed back to the US.

End of of story. Now go and play with the milko’s kiddies.

shatterzzz
September 21, 2024 2:29 pm

So which one is special?

2nd along top row .. Red Poppy .. worth $300 upwards .. If you can get one under $300 you’ve scored a bargain .. The 2012 Red Poppy was the 1st $2 coloured and the Mint only produced 500 000 (normal colours nowadays 1.5 to 2.5 million) cos they thought the coloured would be more of a novelty than the collector pieces they’ve become ..
The 2023 Red Poppy is worth about the same as the 2012 but not as sort after. They used the same Poppy design with an updated Queen’s head on the obverse tho only 60 000 issued it doesn’t have the same appeal cos if you’ve got a 2012 you’ve already got the Red Poppy ..
To get an idea of the price difference(s) the next most expensive coloured $2 is the 2016 Purple Coronation (not in pix) from $45 upwards .. The rest between $3 & $25 …….!
They have issued a couple of hundred various $2 coloureds since 2012 but only 62 are the general circulation coins the rest are limited edition & sets ..
Most collectors settle for the circulated issues with a smattering of the “specials” if you come across them cheap (the average Mint “special” single $2 coin retails, when issued, around $30 and sets can get into 4 figures) ..
Those “Woolies Only” are, for all intents & purposes, classified by the Mint, as “circulated” but you don’t find them in “official” albums cos they are “specials” which Woolies pay the Mint for exclusive release to encourage shopping in Woolies ………..
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Burfday
Old Lefty
Old Lefty
September 21, 2024 2:35 pm

The good rabbi, Shimon Cowen, has it exactly right:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-21/lnp-amanda-stoker-pulls-support-for-rabbi-shimon-cowen-book/104378994

The GayBC and the Academics Lawyers and Perverts party (which have us Orkopoulos, Bill Darcy, Bob Ellis, Bob Collins and Keith Wright) are, therefore, going all out to cancel him.

Rosie
Rosie
September 21, 2024 2:37 pm

“There are any number of one-teacher schools in remote and rural Queensland”
Crap analogy.
Remote primary schools are there to service productive farming communities.
Not the same as living on welfare in remote communities and demanding food be helicoptered in during the rainy season.
There was also the issue of domestic violence and sexual abuse which so called do gooders turn a blind eye to.
Many examples.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05-14/looma-man-jailed-over-sexual-assault-of-girls-in-1990s/103844232

Rosie
Rosie
September 21, 2024 2:38 pm

“– 879 Hezbollah Terrorists died.

– 291 Senior Commanders died.

– 509 Blinded.

– 1,735 injured in “reproductive organs.”

– 613 Permanent function damage”
That document on Telegram was a fake.
Claimed 39 civilian deaths.
Hezbollah claimed 2 , as if they would hide more?

Rosie
Rosie
September 21, 2024 2:47 pm

“large pool of people questioning the prevailing WW2 narrative and its relations.”
I read many of the comments, it revealed a large number of virulent anti Semitic white nationalists who felt even more comfortable spiting out their Jew hate and acclaim for the nazi policies of exterminating people they considered subhuman, Jews, Gypsies and Slavs, which a failure by Churchill to pursue a war in the west would have been a complete success, rather than just a partial one.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 21, 2024 2:58 pm

Would those “closed down” be communities with predominately indigenous populations? How would that be “treating everyone the same”?

Obviously I’m referring to the indigenous populations.

Someone once referred to these isolated Outback villages as cultural aquariums. Good description.

Somehow we have arrived at keeping certain groups funded and living in dysfunctional places in a way we would not if anyone else wanted to do it.

Generally as a result of white guilt. Also with the pretence they are somehow a Utopian centre of excellence to be admired and emulated.

Instead they are in general centres of chronic violence and ill-health and crime.

It’s been disastrous for those living in them, and for the rest of Australia funding them.

Close them down.

Bear Necessities
Bear Necessities
September 21, 2024 3:00 pm

Watching the Broncos NRLW team. Scott Prince coaches the team. Top of the ladder and caning the dragons. It looks as though they have a game plan and the players are enthusiastic. Maybe he should be the Broncos men coach.

Rosie
Rosie
September 21, 2024 3:00 pm
johanna
johanna
September 21, 2024 3:05 pm

Scrolling through the Teev channels, I came upon NITV’s rugby league ‘Koori Knockout.’ The game currently being broadcast is between a Redfern based team and a NSW country team.

They are whiter than your average professional NRL team. Most of them have tan marks at the shorts line on their legs!

On another note, I bought a new phone today because the old one won’t survive the closure of the 3G network. The screen had begun to come away from the casing, but it worked fine.

When the saleslady opened it to transfer the SIM card, it turned out that the battery was swollen. She freaked out, said it could blow up or burst into flames any minute, etc. Didn’t want to reassemble it so I could transfer anything to the new one.

So, I have lost my photos. I’m disappointed, but them’s the breaks.

What really irks me is that I consulted a few websites earlier which assured me that my contacts would be on the SIM card. Well, they’re not. I have lost all my phone contact numbers as well. Some I can fairly easily reconstruct, but some (like old friends who live interstate or overseas) are going to be hard, maybe impossible, to find unless they call me. And that means answering calls from unknown numbers, which I don’t usually do.

Moral of the story – use 0G technology (pen and paper) to record important information. Do not believe websites, even if they all say the same, reassuring thing.

Grrr! 🙁

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 21, 2024 3:14 pm

The Democrat Party recently announced its plan to register 9 million UOCAVA voters for the upcoming election, despite government tracking numbers revealing only 2.4 million eligible overseas voters.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/09/remember-when-gop-poll-challengers-were-kicked-absentee/

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 21, 2024 3:15 pm

According to E&E News the CEO of the World Wildlife Fund, Carter Roberts, takes home a nifty $1.2 million each year in compensation. Similarly the president of the Environmental Defense Fund (EDF) gets close to one million each year, and the head of the Nature Conservancy gets three-quarters of a million. It takes half a million dollars to get the chief of the “Rainforest Alliance” to turn up for work, and $415k to feed the account of the president of the Wilderness Society. The two co-directors of Greenpeace USA get about $330,000 a year each. “Nice work if you can get it”…

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 21, 2024 3:23 pm

Theres pork barrelling, and then theres offering the taxpayers arse to be porked.

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Queensland Labor
@QLDLabor

BREAKING: If re-elected on October 26 we will double the funding for Queensland’s LGBTQIA+ alliance and events.

We’ll also make funding to Queensland LGBTQIA+ Alliance permanent – providing much needed certainty and support for the community.

1735099
1735099
September 21, 2024 3:33 pm

Obviously I’m referring to the indigenous populations.

Obviously nothing to do with race (sarc).

Someone once referred to these isolated Outback villages as cultural aquariums. Good description.

No. Breathtakingly arrogant judgement.

Somehow we have arrived at keeping certain groups funded and living in dysfunctional places in a way we would not if anyone else wanted to do it.

We fund and support seniors in nursing homes. Many of those in these communities are rendered dysfunctional through dementia. We care for them. Should these “certain groups” be abandoned? How about people with disabilities?

Generally as a result of white guilt.

White guilt or rational compassion?

Also with the pretence they are somehow a Utopian centre of excellence to be admired and emulated.

Nobody who has spent any time in these communities believes that.I spent a few years unsuccessfully trying to recruit people to work in them. Logically, if they were”Utopian centres of excellence” Australians would be flocking to live in them.

Instead they are in general centres of chronic violence and ill-health and crime.

And why is that so, old mate?

It’s been disastrous for those living in them, and for the rest of Australia funding them.

The first sentence is correct. The second isn’t. Most urban and regional Australians couldn’t give a stuff.

Interesting that the Voice referendum was overwhelmingly carried in the booths in these communities – https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/booth-by-booth-indigenous-australians-backed-the-voice-20231015-p5ecc7.html

Close them down.

Maybe we should try listening to them. That would be novel. It hasn’t been tried in two hundred years.

JC
JC
September 21, 2024 3:34 pm

Dear God, VDH, Roberts and Ferguson, among others, circle the wagons, because someone you and others call a ‘nobody’, ‘my boy’, etc. touched up the official narrative re WW2 in a conversation with Tucker.

I’ve never called Cooper a nobody. I’ve argued his views are bullshit and explained why I believe that. In fact, when first discussing his interview, I said that I thought his views on Jim Jones were very interesting.

They were all rushing out to put out spot fires because Tucker was mainstreaming criticisms of of the official WW2 narrative that were already being made but are only familar to a narrow audience.

Cooper’s views are hardly unique as Buchanan was making similar clams in the 90s.

I don’t be grudge VDH’s opinions, people are entirely justified in coming to different conclusions (although last I looked his article was paywalled) and I’ve seen Gray’s opinion as well, and the latter is more circumspect then merely characterizing what MartyrMade said off the cuff as ‘bullshit’.

Where is it pay-walled because I read it at Free Press.

Here

Just be specific with what Hanson gets wrong in that piece that makes Cooper’s claims credible?

I also watched this interview with Hanson.

https://www.gbnews.com/news/us-historian-victor-davis-hanson-tucker-carlson-churchill

If you choose to defend Cooper’s claim’s it would be a good idea to criticize his biggest one, which was that Churchill was the chief villain of WW2.

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cohenite
September 21, 2024 3:56 pm

Maybe we should try listening to them. That would be novel. It hasn’t been tried in two hundred years.

You are a piece of shit numbers. A typical leftie who invents causes to reflect your sense of virtue which have no connection to reality and consequences. The 3rd nations are the luckiest bunch of H&G to exist. They survived because the Brits got here and set up shop with the best social, economic and political system ever; and not the Portuguese, Spanish, Frogs or any of the Asian butchers.

EVERY problem with the 3rd nations today is because leftoid bastards like you have designated them as victims who have to have compensation for wrongs which were not done to them. Every attempt at the separation which flows from this creates suffering, discord and social corruption.

3rd nations deserve no special treatment, whether it be ghastly subsidised remote settlements, NT, Voices etc. They deserve equality with every other citizen and the responsibilities, benefits and consequences which flow from that, nothing more.

Leftoids, on the other hand, really do deserve special treatment.

Makka
Makka
September 21, 2024 3:57 pm

Maybe we should try listening to them. 

I think Jacinta knows them better than you numbers. So I’ll listen to her. She is calling for an Audit and an RC into Child Abuse in the communities. Once those 2 matters are thoroughly investigated and exposed, then and only then is any further “listening” worthwhile. Until then the best course of action is cutting funding to the parasites and other assorted cretins that enable these squalid shitholes to keep going.

johanna
johanna
September 21, 2024 4:04 pm

Clark is a symptom, not the cause.
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True, and this lame attempt to pretend that everyone else was innocent and virtuous is deflection on a grand scale.

Not only did plenty of people, black and white, know what he was doing, many of them paticipated and benefited from the culture of grift and intimidation he represented. And that includes Saint Lowitja O’Donoghue.

What about those millions in mining royalties pouring into communities where people are living in squalor years later? What about the luxury homes, boats, cars and even helicopters for the Big Men?

When I worked for the NSW government in the 1990s, a Treasury person who investigated a prominent Land Council told me: ‘If they weren’t Aboriginal, they’d all be in jail.’

Nothing seems to have changed.

cohenite
September 21, 2024 4:06 pm

More results of the leftoids’ assault on the West: it’s happened here already and will happen more as rub and tug imports his muzzie voting hordes:

“That Is Not The Same God” : Personal Trainer Who Stopped Muslim Terrorist | Frontpage Mag

1735099
1735099
September 21, 2024 4:14 pm

A typical leftie who invents causes to reflect your sense of virtue which have no connection to reality and consequences.

This “typical leftie” worked in remote communities (Urandangi, Dajarra, Boulia, Bedourie and Camooweal) in the nineties. I lived the reality and observed the consequences.

As soon as we started to listen to the locals (Mitakoodi and Kalkadoon) they started to gain confidence and improve their situations.

Borbidge’s government put an end to that.

As soon as the issue becomes political, any hope of progress goes out the window.

Miltonf
Miltonf
September 21, 2024 4:15 pm

Those who can do. Those who can’t teach.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 21, 2024 4:23 pm

Someone with a lot of time on their hands.

https://x.com/i/status/1837063509101662699

cohenite
September 21, 2024 4:24 pm

As soon as we started to listen to the locals (Mitakoodi and Kalkadoon) they started to gain confidence and improve their situations.

Typical leftoid arrogance: the 3rd nations are incapable of helping themselves but once the wise leftoids place their holy hand on them all becomes better.

Ellie
Ellie
September 21, 2024 4:24 pm

Why do contributors to Dover’s blog give Numbers such a serve? Yes, he repeats his legacy. It’s interesting. He may be a communist. Who cares! What harm is he doing? But how many here (hello cassie) repeat the same fecking shite every fecking day?

First world problems. I ordered some Chardonnay. Lift is out. How to retrieve it without a bra on. I was in the army. Tactics.

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Vicki
Vicki
September 21, 2024 4:38 pm

We really are living in the midst of administrative incompetence. This afternoon the NSW RFS began a hazard reduction west of the Northern Beaches at a time of gathering wind from the West. A little over an hour ago a warning to take shelter was issued to residents in the path of the out-of-control fire that had resulted. WTF!

From where we are it looks like that fire is now under control, thank the Lord. But it must have been terrifying to the residents – particularly in the retirement village in its path.

BTW as a result I consulted the Fires Near Me website to check, in our absence, on our own valley in the Central Tablelands. And again, WTF! The “map” of NSW is no longer visible – only fire symbols in an undefined area.

johanna
johanna
September 21, 2024 4:39 pm

He has quite a story to tell:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-21/new-zealand-pilot-phillip-mehrtens-freed-from-captivity-in-papua/104380250

19 months in the jungle with separatists! Wow!

Armed pro-independence rebels in Indonesia’s Papua region have released New Zealand man Philip Mehrtens after holding him hostage for more than 19 months.

Indonesian police in Papua announced Mr Mehrtens was handed over to a joint military-police helicopter crew at a remote village in Nduga regency in a central highlands area.

From there, the 38-year-old father-of-one was flown to the nearby town of Timika, where police said he underwent medical and psychological assessments.

Well, there’s something to tell his grandchildren about. It’s like a Victorian era adventure story.

Miltonf
Miltonf
September 21, 2024 4:40 pm

Teachers in Year 10 made us parrot off Newton’s Laws of Motion without ever explaining how they might be applied to the real world.

Miltonf
Miltonf
September 21, 2024 4:42 pm

Actually doing something and teaching in a classroom or lecture theatre are separable. Only on-the-job do they come together.

Rosie
Rosie
September 21, 2024 5:03 pm
Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 21, 2024 5:14 pm

Why do contributors to Dover’s blog give Numbers such a serve?

Because it is well deserved.

I was in the army

Conscripted? Et tu?

cohenite
September 21, 2024 5:15 pm

Great analysis of the Israeli testicle strategy by Melanie, and the cowardice of the West especially by the gliblins now in power in not so Great Britain:

(6) An explosive moment of clarification – Melanie Phillips (substack.com)

Includes this:

But Britain no longer seems interested in fighting just wars at all. In a speech this week, Foreign Secretary David Lammy said climate change was the “most profound and universal source of global disorder” and more “fundamental” than either terrorism or an “imperialist autocrat” — an apparent reference to Russian president Vladimir Putin’s war on Ukraine.

Belief in alarmism is now along side TDS a measure of the person; no matter what other virtues you may have if you have TDS or alarmitis then you are a dead loss.

Ellie
Ellie
September 21, 2024 5:17 pm

Wore my maternal grandmother’s Star of David in public for the first time yesterday, since October7. It was in the Eastern suburbs. I felt safe.

Back in the early 90s when working in child protection, we knocked on the door of a man in Lakemba who was tying his children to the bed and beating their heals.

He saw my Star of David and spat at my feet.

We needed police.

He said – I don’t care I live in Australia, I do what I want to do.

Ellie
Ellie
September 21, 2024 5:19 pm

I interviewed a murderer coming up for parole. He raped, buried, dug up and raped again. His little finger was twitching. I asked the obvious question. He said – that is the victim talking to me.

Ellie
Ellie
September 21, 2024 5:21 pm

I watched a triple murderer die from cancer. I spent years trying to keep him inside. But there is a special release option for those suffering.

johanna
johanna
September 21, 2024 5:22 pm

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-21/newcastle-council-paige-johnson-first-transgender-councillor/104379968

A trannie has been elected to the Newcastle Council.

Roads, rates and rubbish?

Oh, no.

It’s all about posturing.

Ellie
Ellie
September 21, 2024 5:23 pm

Stopping. I could go on. 22 years of it.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 21, 2024 5:42 pm

A trannie has been elected to the Newcastle Council.

Nelmes got the boot though, which is pretty amazing.

I haven’t been keeping track of Lake Mac much, since we’re rusted on and fortunately local Labor is saner than Ncl council.

Ellie
Ellie
September 21, 2024 5:49 pm

Sancho, you know nothing. I am now retired at 56. Family trust keeping me alive. Coming for you, sweets. Keep shitting on me.

Back to the boring ra ra.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 21, 2024 6:02 pm

Ellie
 September 21, 2024 4:54 pm

Reply to  Ellie
A downtick represents the echo chamber this blog is no.

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This place is no echo chamber. Plenty of differing opinions each and everyday.

Frank
Frank
September 21, 2024 6:08 pm

ABC never changes.
The Israeli military has repeatedly used fighter jets to create sonic booms over Beirut — some say it’s ‘psychological warfare’I feel more stupid for having engaged with it. The authoress is gives off some serious weather underground vibes. That magical combination of sinister and retarded with bunny boiling eyes.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 21, 2024 6:09 pm

That bloke who pulled the cat of the chair and gave it a kick deserved what he got. What a wanker.

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Steve Inman:

Animals Gone Wild Compilation

Roger
Roger
September 21, 2024 6:20 pm

‘New South Wales Greens MP Jenny Leong will visit the Sydney Jewish Museum after a complaint was lodged with the Australian Human Rights Commission over comments she made about Jewish lobby groups last year.

Days after the story broke, a member of the community lodged a complaint of racial vilification against Jewish people with the human rights commission. The parties went through a conciliation process and reached a settlement earlier this week.

Leong agreed to attend a free guided tour of the Jewish museum and donate $2,000 to the museum – without admitting liability.

Leong has separately donated $2,000 to the Jewish Council of Australia, which she said was a “diverse coalition of Jewish academics, lawyers, writers and teachers united in their opposition to Israel’s continued policies aimed at the destruction of Palestinian life”.’

The Guardian

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Pogria
Pogria
September 21, 2024 6:20 pm

Mossad HQ earlier this year.

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Roger
Roger
September 21, 2024 6:24 pm

ABC never changes.

The Israeli military has repeatedly used fighter jets to create sonic booms over Beirut — some say it’s ‘psychological warfare’

Meanwhile, Hezbollah fired 200+ rockets into northern Israel yesterday.

Some say it’s actual warfare.

Pogria
Pogria
September 21, 2024 6:26 pm

Kamaltoe has often mentioned how much she loves Venn diagrams.

https://ace.mu.nu/archives/dodging.jfif

Pete of Perth
Pete of Perth
September 21, 2024 6:26 pm

The CCP are taking notes on what Israel just did.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 21, 2024 6:36 pm

The bloke handing out a flogging would probably be arrested if he did this in Australia.

I’m guessing this is in South America?

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Steve Inman:

Dad vs Bike Thief

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 21, 2024 6:40 pm

Ellie September 21, 2024 5:49 pm

Sancho, you know nothing. I am now retired at 56. Family trust keeping me alive. Coming for you, sweets. Keep shitting on me.
Back to the boring ra ra.

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Go buy some spray on latex to make your skin a bit thicker.

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