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The Hunt of Diana, Arnold Böcklin, 1896

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Beertruk
September 24, 2024 6:14 pm

My comment on the Paywallion:

Uni boss ‘arrogant and condescending’ to Jewish leaders
A terrible and horrible state of affairs. All student activist protestors involved with the anti-Semitism protest and intimidation of Jewish students on the university grounds should have their courses cancelled and expelled from the university.
Not appeased by Vice Chancellor Mark Scott.

11 hr(s) ago
Status REJECTED

Retarded moderators.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
September 24, 2024 6:21 pm

JC hope all will be well for your little darling.Such a worry.

Rosie
Rosie
September 24, 2024 6:22 pm

I’m guessing this is Bekaa Valley residents driving over the border into Syria?
https://x.com/realMaalouf/status/1838329958491676673?t=XxVovGxE1KSG5KH2va35Eg&s=19

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
September 24, 2024 6:23 pm

Retarded moderators.

More like, educated beyond their intellectual capacity, as Sir Jim Killen used to say.

chrisl
chrisl
September 24, 2024 6:23 pm

Can anybody reproduce the column in the Herald Sun by Jeff Kennett on the topic of Disaster Dan Andrews

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 24, 2024 6:28 pm

Jeff Kennett puts on the hobnailed boots and lays into Dan Andrews in the Hun in a piece headlined:

“Time for the truth about the conspiracies that have protected Dan”

Some extracts:

Last week when more evidence was reported in this paper about the failure of normal police procedures that followed Daniel Andrews’s car accident, which almost killed a young man, on the Mornington Peninsula in 2013, Andrews responded with his normal trademark rejection, this time of “appalling conspiracy theories”, and a typical personal attack on the late Dr Raymond Shuey AM, a former Assistant Commissioner of our Victoria Police force.

Has the biggest boot in the final line of his article:

.Don’t believe a word Daniel Andrews says.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 24, 2024 6:31 pm

IMHO every time there is a inflammation triggered there is a tiny % chance of an adverse outcome.
I do think part of the autism/seizures etc is the sheer number of “events” kids are exposed to.

So while you were getting 15 or so vaxes in childhood with a .0001% chance of an adverse result each we how have dozens with the same .0001% so the numbers are bigger.

I am coming to the opinion that every round of vaccination should start and stop with a pre-vax assessment, followed by a post vax assessment 2 weeks or so later.
As much to restore the reputation of vaccination as any other reason.

Glad the little one worked out ok JC, sometimes the seizures can roll on and starve the brain of oxygen/sugars with lifelong consequences.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 24, 2024 6:34 pm

Marked Scrotum flaunts its anti-Semitism as well as defends the indefensible.

https://x.com/MikeCarlton01/status/1838436906914451626

This is not journalism, it’s vicious vendetta. NewsCorpse has not forgiven Mark Scott for being a senior Fairfax editor and then running the ABC. He is, in fact, one of the most honourable, able and decent men I know.
……
Truth was at least entertaining, and it made no pretence to be anything much else. The Israelian, on the other hand, is preposterous, self-lubricating drivel.

The catamites supporting him need Monty to visit…

Salvatore - Iron Publican
September 24, 2024 6:35 pm

Jeff Kennett: Time for the truth about the conspiracies that have protected Dan

Ray Shuey’s report into the Dan Andrews crash found the Andrews’ version of events “implausible”. Now he joins a conga line of people the former premier has thrown under the bus to protect himself.

Jeff Kennett 3 min read
September 24, 2024 – 4:24PM
 
Last week when more evidence was reported in this paper about the failure of normal police procedures that followed Daniel Andrews’s car accident, which almost killed a young man, on the Mornington Peninsula in 2013, Andrews responded with his normal trademark rejection, this time of “appalling conspiracy theories”, and a typical personal attack on the late Dr Raymond Shuey AM, a former Assistant Commissioner of our Victoria Police force.

Let me deal with that first.

Ray Shuey was a highly respected member of our police force. He was appointed Assistant Commissioner by a Labor government.

On retirement he served overseas and here because of his excellent reputation. He was highly respected for his impartiality and professionalism. At his funeral, four former Police Chief Commissioners attended, as well as current Chief Commissioner Shane Patton.

Andrews attacking Shuey was cowardly, but tactical.

Shuey’s report into the failings of the police force in letting Andrews leave the scene of the accident without the police following normal procedures, including breath testing Andrews after he had been eating and drinking at a local sailing club.

Shuey’s investigations found “the version, as provided by Catherine and Daniel Andrews, is considered improbable and implausible”.
The only conspiracy that appears to have been done is not against Andrews but by him and sadly one or more members of our police force.

No other citizen would be able to leave the scene of such a major accident, so quickly, without the police following normal procedures even before young Ryan Meuleman had been picked up by an ambulance.
Shuey now joins a conga line of people Andrews has thrown under the bus to protect himself.

The late Jane Garrett, Jenney Mikakos, Gavin Jennings and 800 Victorians who died while Andres oversaw hotel quarantine, and when asked at the royal commissino of a salient point, you had your great lapse of memory with the reply: “I don’t remember”.

You don’t remember when it suits you, Mr Andrews.

Misuse of taxpayer money in the Red Shirts exercise which you fought to the High Court using taxpayers money and lost.
Let’s not forget your accident, falling down two steps on to grass, which caused you such serious injuries. Again, Andrews is being protected by friends and members of his staff and some in our emergency services.

With one exception Andrews can’t be trusted.

He did say he would not honour the signed contract by the previous government to build the East West Link project.
He did honour that, and on gaining office in 2014 promptly tore up the contract saying it would not cost Victorians a cent.

Sadly, he was wrong. It cost us Victorians more than $1.1bn for which we got absolutely nothing. No freeway, no road, no footpath, no potholes repaired. Nothing except more debt.

The Meulemans are suing their former lawyers Slater and Gordon because the Meulemans believe Slater and Gordon did less than a professional case in representing their interests.

Slater and Gordon, a well-known Labour legal firm, where today the chairman is one of the brains behind the Suburban Rail Loop, James Mackenzie.

The Meulemans are to be congratulated for continuing to have the truth be established, and we the public must support them to take the case to court.
And then there’s the cancellation of the Commonwealth Games. He promised and then reneged.

Andrews easily could have brought the Games back to Melbourne and avoided all the cost overruns.

But no, just cancel, and now Victorians are going to partly fund the Commonwealth Games being staged in 2026 in Glasgow. Victoria is the butt of jokes around Australia and in all Commonwealth countries. How can you trust anything Andrews says?

Last today, the extraordinary infrastructure build, all at once, mismanaged, and late on delivery, that is going to cost generations of Victorians for decades.

At his last caucus meeting, when trying to secure the deputy Leadership of the ALP for Tim Pallas, his authority was challenged, he exploded saying “what have I done to deserve this?”

Well Mr Andrews, you have destroyed the state’s economy, the people are hurting as never before, and you have for your entire time as premier attacked others for seeking the truth for your behaviour.

The Meulemans’ court case must go ahead in the public interest. The public is entitled to know the truth about the conspiracies that have protected Andrews to date.

Maybe that’s why Andrews’ mates rushed to have him receiveAustralia’s highest civilian honour before the truth became public.

But then, I know of cases where an honour given has been withdrawn. As it should here.

Don’t believe a word Daniel Andrews says.
Jeff Kennett is a former Premier of Victoria

Beertruk
September 24, 2024 6:46 pm

chrisl
 September 24, 2024 6:23 pm

Can anybody reproduce the column in the Herald Sun by Jeff Kennett on the topic of Disaster Dan Andrews

This one Chrisl? :

Jeff Kennett: Time for the truth about the conspiracies that have protected Dan
Ray Shuey’s report into the Dan Andrews crash found the Andrews’ version of events “implausible”. Now he joins a conga line of people the former premier has thrown under the bus to protect himself.

Last week when more evidence was reported in this paper about the failure of normal police procedures that followed Daniel Andrews’s car accident, which almost killed a young man, on the Mornington Peninsula in 2013, Andrews responded with his normal trademark rejection, this time of “appalling conspiracy theories”, and a typical personal attack on the late Dr Raymond Shuey AM, a former Assistant Commissioner of our Victoria Police force.

Let me deal with that first.

Ray Shuey was a highly respected member of our police force. He was appointed Assistant Commissioner by a Labor government.

On retirement he served overseas and here because of his excellent reputation. He was highly respected for his impartiality and professionalism. At his funeral, four former Police Chief Commissioners attended, as well as current Chief Commissioner Shane Patton.

Andrews attacking Shuey was cowardly, but tactical.

Shuey’s report into the failings of the police force in letting Andrews leave the scene of the accident without the police following normal procedures, including breath testing Andrews after he had been eating and drinking at a local sailing club.

Shuey’s investigations found “the version, as provided by Catherine and Daniel Andrews, is considered improbable and implausible”.

The only conspiracy that appears to have been done is not against Andrews but by him and sadly one or more members of our police force.

No other citizen would be able to leave the scene of such a major accident, so quickly, without the police following normal procedures even before young Ryan Meuleman had been picked up by an ambulance.

Shuey now joins a conga line of people Andrews has thrown under the bus to protect himself.

The late Jane GarrettJenny MikakosGavin Jennings and 800 Victorians who died while Andrews oversaw hotel quarantine, and when asked at the royal commissinon of a salient point, you had your great lapse of memory with the reply: “I don’t remember”.

You don’t remember when it suits you, Mr Andrews.

Misuse of taxpayer money in the Red Shirts exercise which you fought to the High Court using taxpayers money and lost.

Let’s not forget your accident, falling down two steps on to grass, which caused you such serious injuries. Again, Andrews is being protected by friends and members of his staff and some in our emergency services.

With one exception Andrews can’t be trusted.

He did say he would not honour the signed contract by the previous government to build the East West Link project.

He did honour that, and on gaining office in 2014 promptly tore up the contract saying it would not cost Victorians a cent.

Sadly, he was wrong. It cost us Victorians more than $1.1bn for which we got absolutely nothing. No freeway, no road, no footpath, no potholes repaired. Nothing except more debt.

The Meulemans are suing their former lawyers Slater and Gordon because the Meulemans believe Slater and Gordon did less than a professional case in representing their interests.

Slater and Gordon, a well-known Labour legal firm, where today the chairman is one of the brains behind the Suburban Rail Loop, James Mackenzie.

The Meulemans are to be congratulated for continuing to have the truth be established, and we the public must support them to take the case to court.

And then there’s the cancellation of the Commonwealth Games. He promised and then reneged.

Andrews easily could have brought the Games back to Melbourne and avoided all the cost overruns.

But no, just cancel, and now Victorians are going to partly fund the Commonwealth Games being staged in 2026 in Glasgow. Victoria is the butt of jokes around Australia and in all Commonwealth countries. How can you trust anything Andrews says?

Last today, the extraordinary infrastructure build, all at once, mismanaged, and late on delivery, that is going to cost generations of Victorians for decades.

At his last caucus meeting, when trying to secure the deputy Leadership of the ALP for Tim Pallas, his authority was challenged, he exploded saying “what have I done to deserve this?”

Well Mr Andrews, you have destroyed the state’s economy, the people are hurting as never before, and you have for your entire time as premier attacked others for seeking the truth for your behaviour.

The Meulemans’ court case must go ahead in the public interest. The public is entitled to know the truth about the conspiracies that have protected Andrews to date.

Maybe that’s why Andrews’ mates rushed to have him receive Australia’s highest civilian honour before the truth became public.

But then, I know of cases where an honour given has been withdrawn. As it should here.

Don’t believe a word Daniel Andrews says.

Jeff Kennett is a former Premier of Victoria

Ps:
Just looked at my strike rate for comments accepted on this rag.
Not that good.

Tom
Tom
September 24, 2024 6:46 pm

FFS. Chris Uhlmann (married to a former Labor MP) has just announced on Sky News he’s a maaaate of Sydney University vice-chancellor Mark Scott and therefore has no opinion on USyd’s persecution of Jewish staff and students, even though he admits that’s what has happened.

Uhlmann has already shown he’s prepared to lie to promote leftwing ideology.

IMO, he’s not a real journalist’s bottom. Get rid of him, Peta Credlin.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 24, 2024 6:46 pm

It feels like Anthony Albanese’s re-election strategy is to turn up to Perth and bag out Keep the Sheep. 
 
That’s right, he’s in Perth again today, and yet again, he can’t escape being asked about the ban on live sheep exports and our campaign. 

“The campaign, Keep the Sheep, in my view, their name is an admission, because it’s not keep live sheep exports”.  
 
He still doesn’t get it.  
 
Keep the Sheep means keeping our rural communities, it means keeping our farmers, our shearers, our truckies and our livelihoods. 
 
I’ve got a message for Albanese. 

If you’re sick of being asked about live sheep exports and Keep the Sheep: Drop the ban. 
 
In the meantime, we’ll keep campaigning and keep being a thorn in your side every time you come to WA. 
 
Keeping the Sheep,

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 24, 2024 6:50 pm

The headline (the Hun):

Why weird nicknames make your relationship stronger

Can relate.

I had a girlfriend for a time a couple of years back I called ‘spanner’ because she made my nuts tighten.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 24, 2024 7:11 pm

No payment to the maaaates fund?

More than a thousand e-scooters were packed up and transported out of Melbourne’s CBD on Monday night, just hours before a ban imposed by the city council took effect.

Melbourne Lord Mayor Nick Reece pulled the plug on the popular transport option in August, moving a motion to tear up the city council’s contracts with e-scooter operators Lime and Neuron.

The motion, which was supported by a slim majority of councillors, gave the companies 30 days to remove their e-scooters from the 14 suburbs that make up the City of Melbourne, with Tuesday marking the beginning of the ban.

Roger
Roger
September 24, 2024 7:14 pm

News out of left field:

The ethnic Arab mayor of the US’s only Muslim majority city, Hamtramck MI (greater Detroit), has endorsed Trump for POTUS.

Dunny Brush
Dunny Brush
September 24, 2024 7:15 pm

Amusingly, to me at least, the Coles under HQ in Tooronga – for non Melbourne people
Tooronga is sort of a dead spot between Toorak and Glen Iris – is palatial. Over run with staff and speciality items like flash cheeses and lobsters. Heaps of womaned check outs. Nothing reallly sells because it’s a show room to impress the dickheads upstairs. Fabulous discounts if you know when to go. I walked out with a bucket of French cheese and some exotic fish for about $10 not so long ago. Pathetic people. Potemkin village. Parking good.

Arky
September 24, 2024 7:21 pm

Testing:
Pricks

132andBush
132andBush
September 24, 2024 7:21 pm

Winston Smith

September 24, 2024 9:02 am

Reply to  132andBush

Which region is this, 132andbush?

Is it just localised or widespread?

Can you give us a like to a reliable information site, please.

All areas around Griffith, Winston.
From what I’m hearing it’s 100km+ radius.
I haven’t heard any reports from further out.
As Gez mentioned earlier the Mallee region of Vic has been hard hit as well.

Arky
September 24, 2024 7:22 pm

Test:
arsehole

Arky
September 24, 2024 7:23 pm

Nope, it’s a mystery what triggered the moderator.

Arky
September 24, 2024 7:24 pm

Oh.
It’s j.*.r.k

Arky
September 24, 2024 7:26 pm

You deleted the whole post because I called magpies j*rks?
WTF Dover.

Miltonf
Miltonf
September 24, 2024 7:28 pm

The black building right Dunny Brush? Didn’t know there was a supermarket in it- interesting. Been there for yonks back to before it became Coles-Myer?

Arky
September 24, 2024 7:32 pm

I mean, it’s not even a swear word really, is it?

Arky
September 24, 2024 7:33 pm

Oh, there it is.

Bullying j*rks of a magpie couple still showing up expecting food.
I made the mistake of reading some advice online, which said the bloody things need ground up mealworms added to any steak you hand them.
So today I went out to the pet shop and specifically bought the special magpie dietary additive.
What a sucker.
I added the powder to the porterhouse steak specially cut up magpie gob hole sized.
Took it outside.
Male magpie eyed me up suspiciously and turned his beak up because I had left the steak in the Tupperware. So I took the steak out and placed it deferentially on the ground before his majesty. Who preceded to wipe the steak on the grass to wipe off every trace of special magpie powder, before glaring at me and flying off. His missus repeated the same.
Pricks

bons
bons
September 24, 2024 7:36 pm

I am slow out of the blocks. It was only tonight listening to Dutton that I realised the yawning difference between he and Albanese.

Dutton discusses, considers and debates. His statements are nuanced and leave room for questioning.

Albanese stands rigidly behind the microphone and delivers Andrews model monologues based exclusively on assertions and implied threat.

The fading old memory dragged me back to the Sydney Uni refec where lefty moron PolScience and Econ students insisted on disturbing our snatched time off out of the lab with rants that are carbon copies of the utterences of current delayed adolescent clowns in Government.

That assertion does not encompass Wong. She is different. She is true bolshevic fossil.

Rabz
September 24, 2024 7:38 pm

preceded to wipe the steak on the grass to wipe off every trace of special magpie powder, before glaring at me and flying off. His missus repeated the same

err, Arks, anyone might think they’re doing this to you because they can and they enjoy it. Obviously they aren’t in danger of starving to death any time soon.

chrisl
chrisl
September 24, 2024 7:39 pm

Monica Smit story on Current Affair tonight. She was arrested 3 times in one day . Looking back at the footage of the Vicpol thugs I wonder if the average person would look back in pride or horror .

Miltonf
Miltonf
September 24, 2024 7:46 pm

Good analysis bons- Anal and Wong haven’t grown beyond their days as uni agitators. They have nothing good to offer.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 24, 2024 7:55 pm

Herc flew into the ‘Ville today. As the domestic flight I was on taxied past it was chock a block full of supplies.

Now that in itself isn’t definitive as we share an airport with a RAAF base. Also not the bigger C17’s weren’t present.

However wonder if the word has gone out to grip up and centralise all the kit around to support a protected evac. Surprised the Bankstown boys haven’t already been screaming from Tripoli…

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 24, 2024 8:08 pm

JC saw upthread the bad news, god speed to the little one.

LB2
LB2
September 24, 2024 8:20 pm

Knuckle Dragger
  Supra, 6:50 pm

Why weird nicknames make your relationship stronger

Not quite on point, but we had a one-armed bloke at work years ago.
We knew him as “Digital” – because he didn’t have a second hand… (tish boom).

Miltonf
Miltonf
September 24, 2024 8:21 pm

Best wishes for your granddaughter JC- sorry missed your earlier post.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 24, 2024 8:25 pm

Elsie just decided she wanted either – some attention – or some of that special milk you give them instead of normal milk.
So she’s been scratching around my feet, trying to look half starved – unsuccessfully – and generally being a pest.
As the leg scratching and plaintive meowing hasn’t worked, she jumped up onto the other chair and then the bench top, only to come face to face with the laptop screensaver. She doesn’t like dogs with lots of teeth, drops back to the floor and watches the office ready to ambush the predator that lives on the desk.
She’s come back and the screensaver has gone to the next in line – one of Monets Haystacks – she walked warily past the screen and checked to make sure the dog wasn’t hiding behind the haystack then came up and demanded feeding. With special milk.
Now that she has scoffed the bloody lot, she’ll go and have a nap – her fifth or sixth today.

Has.not.caught.one.mouse.in.nine.months.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 24, 2024 8:33 pm

One of my favourite Video Channels, Cutting Edge Engineering.
Small one man operation in Queensland that does heavy haulage and mining equipment repairs etc.
This one show has 5.7 million views!
Which is quite amazing that such a small operation gets that much attention.

132andBush
132andBush
September 24, 2024 8:35 pm

Small update to this morning’s update re the frost.

Barley has been badly impacted.
I spent over an hour this morning getting a proper gauge on all the barley. Some areas are 80%+ gone while others are 10%.
Overall somewhere between 30-40%. Hopefully some rain in the next 24hrs will give the plants enough to fill late emerging heads which seem to have escaped the freeze, there’s not many of them but it could claw back 5%.

I have also heard a lot of anecdotal reports of the grape vines in and around Griffith being 50% hit.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 24, 2024 8:42 pm

Sorry to hear about the little tyke JC.
You’re right about the slow train analogy.
Until maybe some “grown out of it” stage is reached you don’t get good news.
All you can hope for is an absence of bad news.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 24, 2024 8:42 pm
Rosie
Rosie
September 24, 2024 8:51 pm

Dunno Dover.
My vague recollection is that the borders between the Bekaa Valley and the west of Syria were always pretty open as many members of the same tribes lived on both sides of the border. Looks like Tartus being majority Alawite would be reasonably safe.
Not so much Sunni majority areas of course.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 24, 2024 9:21 pm

Huge kerfuffle around here just now. A very large and extremely noisy police helicopter drew out all the neighbours and us at our good ventage point to watch as this copter put a searchlight all around the shores of Watson’s Bay, seemingly following someone or something, along the bay which we overlook, and now it’s headed up to The Gap – Sydney’s suicide central. So noisy the whole neighbourhood has come out.

Don’t know what it is about yet.

JC
JC
September 24, 2024 9:24 pm

As a woman, I find it disrespectful.

Get a load of this errant nonsense of an economic plan coming from the kamaltoe campaign.

This campaign is a disaster even in the age of incompetence.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 24, 2024 9:27 pm

So, I’m in my local bottleshop, treating myself to a good bottle of single malt, and I cop an earful from one of the local grifters

“Jeez, hundred and thirty bucks for a bottle of grog. I wouldn’t mind having that sort of money. Man works his guts out to feed his missus and kids.”

The results of the casual couplings of the lower orders just don’t know their place any more…

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 24, 2024 9:35 pm

A very large and extremely noisy police helicopter drew out all the neighbours and us at our good ventage point to watch as this copter put a searchlight all around the shores of Watson’s Bay, seemingly following someone or something

Vaucluse resident Andrew O’Keeffe’s obviously out and about again.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 24, 2024 9:44 pm

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/20966/persecution-of-christians-august

  • “So let everyone know that the role of Christians in Lebanon has ended! You have become a minority in this country, and yet you still hold high positions… Nobody would accept this issue. The coming generations will… not accept that the president must be Christian; he must be a Sunni Muslim or Shi’ite.” — Reda Saad, pro-Hezbollah commentator, x.com, August 18, 2024.

If you think the Lebanese are going to fight and win, you are wrong.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 24, 2024 10:01 pm

A true mighty machine.

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Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 24, 2024 10:25 pm

Hairy has just found out what the kerfuffle seems to have been about. Waverley police are searching for an old bloke, a missing man called Rudiger Burns, aged 84, who went missing from his home in Vaucluse around 4.30pm. The police helicopter must have been out looking for him. At least we know and if some old codger blunders into our unlocked gate (not too many around here are unlocked) then we shall know who he is. A very worthwhile use of police resources, says my nice Hairy.

Something that came to my mind when I was in heightened imagination thinking that someone might be going to take a pot shot at us on our verandah, and Hairy now admits he thought the same, that he should turn off the light while we were out there, was that Donald Trump must live every moment of his life under this sort of pressure. Six groups have been identified as having the intent to kill him, and now this previous attempted assassin has been shown to have been part of a wider group of ideologues who want Trump dead. The Donald must worry at every twitch in the curtains even at home, for these people will stop at nothing, especially if given ‘help’ by those State ‘protectors’ set up to ensure such things don’t happen. Man of Steel. Vote Trump.

Indolent
Indolent
September 24, 2024 10:36 pm
Top Ender
Top Ender
September 24, 2024 10:38 pm

The Wong chap talking especial bollocks at the end.

Aboriginal academic and human rights lawyer Hannah McGlade has criticised the overseas travel spend for the Ambassador for First Nations People, saying the role should be focused on a more serious issue.

Exclusive: The overseas travel spend for the Ambassador for First Nations People is “extraordinary” and the role should instead focus on “children suffering appalling abuse,” says an Australian on the United Nations’ top body for Indigenous issues.

Academic and human rights lawyer Hannah McGlade launched the stinging rebuke on Tuesday as Foreign Affairs Minister Penny Wong stepped up her defence of the role of First Nations People ambassador, Justin Mohamed.

Senator Wong was stirred into action after Peter Dutton vowed to abolish the role, with the Opposition leader declaring the $350,000 budgeted for Mr Mohamed’s business-class international trips last financial year would be better spent on “Australians who are struggling at the moment to keep a roof over their head or to pay their electricity bill.”

In New York, Ms Wong hit back, saying it was “disappointing that Mr Dutton doesn’t see a role for Indigenous Australians in representing Australia.

“We see again his character on display. He divides us at home, and frankly, he diminishes us in the world,” she said.

While Ms Wong was prepared to take on Mr Dutton, her office had nothing to say about Ms McGlade’s comments.

Ms McGlade, who is Aboriginal and has been a member of the United Nations Permanent Forum for Indigenous Issues (UNPFII) for nearly five years, had said: “Honestly I think it’s an extraordinary amount of travel and costs associated with the role of Ambassador to date.”

Writing on LinkedIn, she added: “As a member of UNPFII I’m disappointed the Ambassador [role] does not appear focused on advancing Indigenous people’s rights, especially the rights of children suffering appalling abuse in Australia”.

This masthead was unable to contact Ms McGlade directly. On LinkedIn, she was replying to a post by Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Social Justice Commissioner Katie Kiss.

Ms Kiss had defended the Ambassador’s role and described Mr Dutton’s view as “disappointing.”

Mr Mohamed did not respond to a request for comment; nor did his employer, the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade.

On Tuesday, this masthead revealed the Ambassador’s role has a salary range between $240,000 and $326,000.

The revelation has brought more scrutiny of the role, which the Opposition Leader Peter Dutton on Monday vowed to abolish after this masthead brought to light the full extent of the position’s overseas travel budget.

The world-first role was established in March 2023, with Labor declaring the “new position ensures, for the first time, that Australia will have dedicated Indigenous representation in our international engagement.”

At a Senate estimates hearing on June 3 this year, Shadow Minister for Indigenous Australians Jacinta Nampijinpa Price asked Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade bureaucrats for details of Mr Mohamed’s salary.

The officials said Mr Mohamed was “engaged at the SES band 2 level.”

The 2022-23 DFAT annual report shows that the Senior Executive Service band 2 was paid between $240,000 and $326,000.

Senator Price asked for Mr Mohamed’s specific salary. The bureaucrats didn’t know and said they would “have to take on notice the exact package he’s on.”

It appears no answer has been provided to date.

However, on Monday, the Albanese government confirmed to this masthead that the pay grade and range was correct.

Mr Mohamed declined to comment on Monday, other than to say he was not upgraded to first class on any of the nine overseas trips he undertook in 2023-24. Four of the journeys were to the US; two were to Geneva, Switzerland.

Mr Mohamed’s business-class flights cost more than $100,000; the bill for his overseas hotels was more than $30,000.

Including the travel expenses of Mr Mohamed’s support staff, DFAT budgeted more than $350,000 for the nine trips.

Mr Dutton told Sydney’s 2GB radio that “if it is the case that we win the next election, that position will be abolished on day one.

“That money will be spent to help Australians who are struggling at the moment to keep a roof over their head or to pay their electricity bill. We’ve got higher priorities at the moment.”

Foreign Affairs Minister Penny Wong attacked the Opposition Leader over his call to abolish the position in the wake of the revelations.

“It’s disappointing that Mr Dutton doesn’t see a role for Indigenous Australians in representing Australia,” she said.

“We see again his character on display. He divides us at home, and frankly, he diminishes us in the world.”

Senator Wong said Ambassador Mohamed was rebuilding Australia’s “relationship with the Pacific family.

He “and his team are delivering results for all Australians including our First Nations communities,” Ms Wong said.

“Ambassador Mohamed has helped secure greater access for Indigenous Peoples to the Human Rights Council, he was essential to delivering a groundbreaking treaty securing formal legal recognition of First Nations people’s genetic resources and traditional knowledge, and has boosted First Nations trade.

“First Nations diplomacy is a powerful element of our engagement with the Pacific given the strong First Nations cultural and historical connections with our region.

“It is one of the ways we are rebuilding our relationship with the Pacific family after Mr Dutton and the Liberals disrespected Pacific leaders and neglected Pacific priorities over nine long years, leaving a vacuum for other countries to fill.”

– Additional reporting by Tom Minear.

Daily Tele with comments off to the races

Indolent
Indolent
September 24, 2024 10:39 pm
Indolent
Indolent
September 24, 2024 10:41 pm

@GuntherEagleman

Holy sht!

Even CNN is being forced to tell the American people how BAD Kamala’s polling is.

The polls have NEVER been this bad for a Democrat running against Trump.

She’s even hemorrhaging minorities.

Americans see the truth, 4 years under Kamala would WRECK our country…!

Indolent
Indolent
September 24, 2024 10:44 pm

@Jules31415

Tucker Carlson: “I actually don’t really want to show up in somebody else’s state and like attack their politicians…but I saw a photograph of your Governor Josh Shapiro standing with a foreign leader, signing an artillery shell that is going to kill civilians in a country we’re not at war with, with a grin on his face…I was disgusted by it, actually, I was enraged by it.”

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 25, 2024 12:00 am

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
 September 24, 2024 10:25 pm

Hairy has just found out what the kerfuffle seems to have been about. Waverley police are searching for an old bloke

Codgers on the loose in Vauclause?
It’s what Colin Powell or Stormin’ Norman Schwartzkopf used to describe as “a target rich environment”.

John H.
John H.
September 25, 2024 12:40 am

Biobots arise from the cells of dead organisms ? pushing the boundaries of life, death and medicine (theconversation.com)

Biobots arise from the cells of dead organisms ? pushing the boundaries of life, death and medicine (theconversation.com)

And now, in a new study, a team of experts have detailed how certain cells, when provided with the necessary stimulation, have the ability to “transform into multicellular organisms with new functions after death.”

What is this ‘third state?’

Death is slow.

For example, in humans, white blood cells die between 60 and 86 hours after organismal death. In mice, skeletal muscle cells can be regrown after 14 days postmortem, while fibroblast cells from sheep and goats can be cultured up to a month or so postmortem.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 25, 2024 2:07 am

H B Bear
 September 25, 2024 12:08 am

 Reply to  Dunny Brush

I drove past Battlestar Galactica a few times. Just bizzare. Didn’t a Coles Myer CEO do time for fraud?

Quite so.
Brian Quinn.
Diverting company money to renovate his house in … Templestowe.
I know, right?
Apparently his wife Trenna ran up the tab on very lavish finishes.
A new word was coined in her honour to describe OTT house improvements … “a trennavation”.

Gabor
Gabor
September 25, 2024 3:11 am

Brian Quinn.

Diverting company money to renovate his house in … Templestowe.

I know, right?

Apparently his wife Trenna ran up the tab on very lavish finishes.

I remember that, She wanted bevel glass window panes fitted to an unsuitable window frame, frame too small for that and looked shyte, tried for 3 or 4 times.

And that was just a minor thing.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 25, 2024 3:29 am

Carnarvon 1981.

I was getting looked after by a bunch of teenagers for the night. I was 6. Come midnight I decided I want to go home. I just walked out the front door and proceeded to walk home from East Carnarvon. It was a bloody long walk. I got to Robinson street in the centre of town … Port Hotel was on the other side of the road ( Hello Wilson Tuckey ). I was bawling my eyes out.

This bloke came along and calmed me down. He then picked me up and put me on his shoulders and proceeded to walk me the rest of the way home.

Got to about kilometre from home when dad and mum went past in the car and hit the brakes. The bloke put me down and dad amd mum were relieved to have found me. It was all hands on deck that night.

Anyway, a conversation ensued and I distinctively remember him telling father he was just released from jail. For what crime I can not remember.

Dad proceeded to take the bloke home, mum and I walked the rest of the way home.

Did I cause a fuss? You bet i did.

This song brought all the memories back. I found my way home.

Jon and Vangelis – I’ll Find My Way Home (with lyrics)

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Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 25, 2024 3:34 am

The option to edit posts appears sometimes but not all the time.

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Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 25, 2024 3:39 am

Ignore. I figured out the edit function.

Tom
Tom
September 25, 2024 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
September 25, 2024 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
September 25, 2024 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
September 25, 2024 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
September 25, 2024 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
September 25, 2024 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
September 25, 2024 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
September 25, 2024 4:06 am
Top Ender
Top Ender
September 25, 2024 4:31 am

Pop star Taylor Swift has received a barrage of negative feedback for backing Kamala Harris, much of it from mums vowing to never spend a cent on her concerts or merchandise.

Rita Panahi

When it comes to Taylor Swift and poor choices, the jokes write themselves.

After all, she’s made a fortune writing songs about picking the wrong person and she’s done it again, endorsing Kamala Harris.

But her endorsement of the Democrat appears to have backfired as the star’s popularity takes a battering.

She has closed comments on her Instagram page after a barrage of negative feedback, much of it from mums vowing to never spend a cent on her concerts or merchandise.

The decision means Swift’s 284 million followers are currently banned from commenting on her posts.

And, her backing of Harris – a Vice President so hopelessly inept that she had record low approval ratings as VP before the media propaganda campaign rebranding her as capable and visionary – has seen Swift record a favourability rating that is lower than Donald Trump’s.

According to latest polling by the New York Times and Siena College, a reputable survey that typically favours the left, Trump had a favourability rating of 47 per cent, while Swift was at 42 per cent.

When it comes to Republicans, Swift’s popularity is down to 23 per cent.

This is not the first time Swift has become highly political.

In 2018 she emoted widely about “being on the right side of history” and spoke out against Tennessee Republican Marsha Blackburn, labelling her “Trump in a wig” and accusing her of breaching “basic human rights”.

The ill-advised hyperbole did not seem to hurt Blackburn, who won Swift’s home state with a healthy 10.8 per cent margin.

The celeb class were warned to stay in their lane.

To stick to what they’re good at and not use their profile to push their uninformed views on their fan base and the wider public.

Ricky Gervais said it best when he told the Hollywood elite at the 2020 Golden Globes to resist making a political speech if they won an award.

“You’re in no position to lecture the public about anything, you know nothing about the real world,” he said.

“Most of you spent less time in school than Greta Thunberg.”

But, alas, they cannot help themselves, particularly when it comes to the US election.

Swift joins a long list of celebs backing Harris.

We saw a similar phenomenon in 2016 with the A-list endorsing Hillary Clinton.

It didn’t help her and it remains doubtful whether celebrity power will get Harris over the line.

Herald-Sun

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 25, 2024 4:40 am

Thanks, Tom.

KevinM
KevinM
September 25, 2024 4:40 am

Bending over or kneeling, sitting down even is a cinch.
Getting up is the problem.

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KevinM
KevinM
September 25, 2024 4:42 am

18 wheelers?
Pfft.

dull
KevinM
KevinM
September 25, 2024 4:43 am

Good decision, bit pricey but.

acot
Top Ender
Top Ender
September 25, 2024 5:18 am

The Secret Salim!

Disgraced former Auburn deputy mayor Salim Mehajer has been secretly jailed for brutally attacking his ex-girlfriend – as she breaks her silence over her horrendous ordeal. 

Mehajer, 38, was sentenced to seven years and nine months in prison at the District Court for a raft of offences last May – including domestic violence and fraudulent use of documents. 

A jury had found the former politician and property developer guilty of suffocating, punching and threatening to kill his ex-partner during ‘four bouts’ of anger during the ‘abusive’ relationship.

However, the lengthy jail term could not be reported until this week when a court lifted a non-publication order after Mehajer pleaded guilty to a series of separate offences. 

Daily Mail

KevinM
KevinM
September 25, 2024 5:21 am

Speaking of supermarkets.

From humble beginning.

Tesco

tesco
DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 25, 2024 5:50 am

We’ve been here before…

The Dunciad: Book The Fourth.

  By Alexander Pope

    ARGUMENT.

    The poet being, in this book, to declare the completion of the prophecies mentioned at the end of the former, makes a new invocation; as the greater poets are wont, when some high and worthy matter is to be sung. He shows the goddess coming in her majesty to destroy order and science, and to substitute the kingdom of the Dull upon earth; how she leads captive the Sciences, and silenceth the Muses; and what they be who succeed in their stead. All her children, by a wonderful attraction, are drawn about her; and bear along with them divers others, who promote her empire by connivance, weak resistance, or discouragement of Arts; such as half-wits, tasteless admirers, vain pretenders, the flatterers of Dunces, or the patrons of them. All these crowd round her; one of them offering to approach her, is driven back by a rival, but she commends and encourages both. The first who speak in form are the geniuses of the schools, who assure her of their care to advance her cause, by confining youth to words, and keeping them out of the way of real knowledge. Their address, and her gracious answer; with her charge to them and the Universities. The Universities appear by their proper deputies, and assure her that the same method is observed in the progress of education.

Beertruk
September 25, 2024 6:25 am

Today’s Paywallion:
It’s time Labor held Indigenous land councils to account

Jacinta Nampijinpa Price
25 Sep 2024

I firmly believe land councils can be valuable and meaningful bodies; places where traditional owners are informed and enabled to pursue economic development and independence on their land. But in order to function at their peak, land councils must be accountable. We must have an effective way to scrutinise and track both their governance and outcomes.

It is becoming overwhelmingly clear, however, that the Albanese government’s approach to accountability is severely problematic. Not long ago, the federal government commissioned the Australian National Audit Office to audit all four Northern Territory land councils. At the outset, that sounds like a positive step toward accountability. The usual process then followed in that the audit recommendations were left to be implemented by each council.

Now, in theory, those land councils were still subject to scrutiny because the Senate is entitled to interrogate their progress at Senate estimates. But I say “in theory” because it is remarkable how well and compliant an organisation can present itself to a committee at Senate estimates, and how different that presentation can be from reality.

The Anindilyakwa Land Council is a prime example of this. It came before the estimates committee I was on in June this year, and proudly announced in relation to the ANAO audit recommendations that it had “completed 85 per cent of the responses to those recommendations”. Great. But enter the report from an independent review of the ALC after estimates, and a starkly different picture emerged.

Of the 14 ANAO recommendations agreed to be implemented by the ALC, the independent review found none of them had been fully implemented or closed. None. The review found that the recommendations should be reopened until they had been implemented to an acceptable standard.

It was damning. Yet no one would have known that from the Albanese government’s system of auditing and self-reporting. All we would have known was the nice, neat picture given by the ALC at estimates.

And the problem is, technically, those assurances the ALC gave at estimates were true. Thanks to the self-assessment process, a land council can truthfully say it has fully complied with the audit recommendations because, according to its definition of compliance, it has.

This Albanese system of accountability is at best lazy and at worst encourages corruption to abound in organisations that are meant to protect and advocate for our most marginalised.

But the Albanese government doesn’t care – even Minister for Indigenous Australians Malarndirri McCarthy’s recent announcement to withhold funding from the ALC due to the review findings was tokenistic. It didn’t address the underlying weak system of accountability, but it also came just before the council was to hold its election.

The self-serving timing was impeccable – if the board was returned to govern, then the ALC members had independently affirmed the failing leadership and the minister could step away from the problem; and if the board was changed, the ALC had taken steps to sort out the mess itself – both eventualities standing as the pinnacle of self-determination.

As recently as last week, McCarthy continued to tout the ANAO audits as the answer to providing “oversight and recommendations to improve internal governance of these bodies”. We are left only to imagine the situation of the three other Northern Territory land councils that haven’t been independently reviewed. But as the example of ALC demonstrates, the current system of ANAO auditing doesn’t reassure anyone of the good governance of these bodies.

That is why I will continue to push for a formal inquiry into land councils and registered native title bodies – an inquiry specifically focused on matters of governance, accountability and transparency, that wouldn’t rely on self-reporting and would afford the Indigenous Australians who these bodies are supposed to serve the opportunity to go on record about how those bodies have or have failed to serve their interests.

But aside from an inquiry into governance of these bodies, we desperately need to undertake an audit of the money being funnelled into these bodies, and the Aboriginal industry more broadly.

Quite unlike the ANAO audits this government has commissioned that examine financial trails and ensure money is dealt with properly, I am calling for an audit that scrutinises the effectiveness of that money. An audit tasked with evaluating whether money is being spent where outcomes are being delivered and Indigenous lives are being improved, or where it is being wasted on unproductive projects.

Like me, I know most Australians want to see these bodies functioning at their best, and that requires close scrutiny of both their governance and their outcomes. But in order to do that, we need both an inquiry for governance and an audit for effectiveness.

The Albanese government has explicitly opposed an inquiry into land councils and registered native title bodies, and is content with its current method of auditing. Its obtuse attitude holds all Australians back – marginalised Indigenous Australians, the bodies that are supposed to represent them, and the rest of the country, who are lifted when our most vulnerable are lifted too.

Senator Jacinta Nampijinpa Price is opposition Indigenous Australians spokeswoman.

lotocoti
lotocoti
September 25, 2024 6:36 am
Vicki
Vicki
September 25, 2024 6:41 am

Really looking forward to the rain promised tomorrow for the NSW Central West. Getting pretty dry for Spring here. Clover has been good this year, but cows have pretty much eaten it out. No bloating, thank goodness. A bloke in the valley lost a cow a few weeks ago.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 25, 2024 6:43 am
Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
September 25, 2024 6:45 am

BBC Fails Self-Awareness Test Again!
Reporting on the Murdoch Succession matter, the Beeb made reference to Lachlan having views more in line with his father’s, that is to say falling on the conservative side of the line. They went on to say that the empire included far-right Fox News, which had promulgated debunked conspiracy theories, and that the succession would determine how people heard the news!
Never mind that people now hear mostly left-leaning news from about 90% of the MSM, including the BBC itself.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
September 25, 2024 6:58 am

Alexander Pope – Timon’s Villa is a nice bit of satire on the overblown estates of the rich. There’s quite a bit of it about these days too!
And don’t forget A.D. Hope’s Dunciad Minor – where he slices and dices literary critics, particularly those who want to reduce Shakespeare to “extended metaphor”.
I recall one wag at Uni many years ago submitting an essay in verse he entitled “Dunciad Minimus”.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 25, 2024 7:13 am

And don’t forget A.D. Hope’s Dunciad Minor – where he slices and dices literary critics, particularly those who want to reduce Shakespeare to “extended metaphor”.

I haven’t read it but will look it up. Of course, smacking down literary critics is shooting fish in a barrel.

Cassie of Sydney
September 25, 2024 7:22 am

In May 2022, here in Oz land, the electorate kicked out a useless, spineless, craven and quisling Coalition government and replaced it with a motley crew of ghastly far-left mediocrities headed by the grub from Grayndler.

We here in Oz land have paid a heavy price since then. Whilst we all knew it would be worse under the grub from Grayndler and his comrades, we knew we could no longer continue to reward Coalition uselessness and cowardice so we have been lumped with the mediocrity from Grayndler since May 2022. But we should count ourselves lucky, our PM and his motley crew are models of propriety and competence compared to UK Labour under Fuhrer Sturmer. Since being elected in early July, and particularly since the Southport massacre of little girls, Fuhrer Sturmer and his merry comrades have merrily spent their time smearing and branding their ideological opponents as far-right and Nazis. You might ask why? Well, ya see, if you dare to oppose the increasing (and quickening) Islamification of the UK, and if you dare to critique mass legal and illegal immigration into the UK, according to Fuhrer Sturmer and his comrades, you are a Nazi, you are far-right.

Overnight, at the UK Labour Conference, Fuhrer Sturmer, no doubt dressed in Savile Row attire (Fuhrer Sturmer has long been enamoured of all things Savile), attire donated to him by an Islamist millionaire, stood on a podium and said…..

“I call again for all parties to pull back from the brink. I call again for an immediate ceasefire in Gaza, the return of the sausages.”

Now, if anyone else had said the above, I could and would forgive them for such a verbal lapse. It’s something we all do at times, although you would think a man with years behind him as leader of UK Labour, a man who trained in law, a man who practised as a top London barrister, and a man who once headed the DPP in London would be more careful with his words, particularly when addressing others. But you see, I think Sturmer’s Freudian lapse is an insight into his sinister totalitarian mind. He has no heart, rather he is a hardcore freezing cold Marxist, a man who has accumulated over 10 million pounds but who takes dosh from a sleazy Labour donating Islamist millionaire to dress his wife.

You see, socialists never stop taking other people’s money.

Despite the UK MSM doing their best to cover up the grift and the stench of this new Labour government, watching Fuhrer Starmer is like watching a slow moving train wreck.

Back to the ‘sausages’ remark, no Mr Sturmer, those hostages in Gaza are not ‘sausages’, they are Jewish men, Jewish women and Jewish children.

For the record, I believe most of the hostages are now dead. The IDF are searching for graves.

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Black Ball
Black Ball
September 25, 2024 7:24 am

FMD. Your children are being taught by arseholes. Hun:

A former teacher at The Knox School has won the right to return to the classroom after being initially declared psychologically disturbed and unfit for work.

The Supreme Court has strongly condemned the actions of the Victorian Institute of Teaching (VIT) for suspending the teacher for more than two years without due process.

Elsa Brissenden, a talented musician and primary school educator, was banned by the VIT based on just one medical assessment that was at odds with their own psychiatrist’s opinion.

Mmmyes something rotten in the state of Denmark, er, Victoria.

The trumpet player, who wishes to be known as Mx Brissenden rather than Ms Brissenden, was working at Bethal Primary School in Meadow Heights in late 2022.

Well she could have been a flute player. So what piqued the interest of her colleagues that something was amiss?

At the time school leaders reported a number of incidents including Mx Brissenden allegedly crying, screaming and banging their head.

This led to them being assessed by consultant psychiatrist Dr Remy Glowinski, who concluded that they were “in an acutely disturbed mental state” and provisionally unfit for work until further clarification.

Dr Glowinski suggested they were possibly suffering from “acute substance intoxication” or “an organic mood disturbance”. This was strongly denied by Mx Brissenden and never verified.

Entirely reasonable one would have thought. But this being Victoria:

The interim suspension, which must be reviewed every 30 days, was continued 15 times until it was overturned by the Supreme Court this week.

Justice Stephen O’Meara was scathing about the VIT’s lack of procedural fairness and poor treatment of Mx Brissenden and ruled they should be free to return to teaching.

He ruled the VIT overlooked evidence, such as that from Mx Brissenden’s own psychologist Charles Veevers who had seen them professionally for 11 years and declared them fit for work.

Justice O’Meara said the VIT based its decision largely on Dr Glowinski’s preliminary assessment and conducted a preliminary investigation without telling Mx Brissenden about it or giving them a chance to contribute.

Justice O’Meara pointed out that “barely anything has been done by the defendant (VIT) in respect of the investigation for more than a year” despite the law requiring immediate investigation.

The judge also noted that there was “no suggestion that anything untoward” occurred while Mx Brissenden was teaching at The Knox School.

I feel reassured judge. As is the union involved.

A spokesman for the VIT said it was “currently reviewing the judgement”.

The Independent Education Union welcomed the ruling. A spokesman said it was “vital that there are robust processes for ensuring that our schools are staffed by suitable people, but this doesn’t mean that the rights of the individual to procedural fairness can be ignored”.

“All too often we see the careers of good educators cut short by extremely punitive processes. This decision reaffirms the rights of all educators to fair treatment and due process, rights which the IEU will continue to fight for,” he said.

All perfectly fine, except when it isn’t.
Good Lord what a shitshow.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 25, 2024 7:27 am

Dover Beach, 1032 last night:

The interesting part in that was left out. What speech that he mentions in the beginning is he referring to?

I’m thinking it was this one.

https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/article-815412

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 25, 2024 7:36 am

Army! Tanks! news (the Hun):

A dozen soldiers have been injured after two tanks collided in an international military training exercise near Rockhampton.

Tanks! Must have been spectacular.

The incident occurred at Shoalwater Bay training area about 7.30pm on Tuesday when two military tanks collided.

Military Tanks!

A military helicopter flew 12 injured soldiers to Rockhampton Airport before they were taken to hospital by paramedics.

A Singapore Armed Forces (SAF) spokesman said one tank rear-ended another.

Tanks!

“At approximately 7.40pm Australia time, one Hunter Armoured Fighting Vehicle rear-ended another

Ahhh. Not tanks after all, then.

while moving back to base at Shoalwater Bay Training Area in Queensland, Australia,” they said in a statement.

Suggestions the Singaporean drivers were attempting to parallel park at the time have yet to be confirmed.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
September 25, 2024 7:43 am

who wishes to be known as Mx
íAfuera!
Sheesh it’s not that hard to tell is it?

Crossie
Crossie
September 25, 2024 8:00 am

As an alternative to BOM I also check the weather forecasts on Weather.com. It seems they are about as good as their government financed colleagues. They had the rain due tomorrow with today just cloudy. It just rained, slightly, at my place so I checked again and, lo and behold, the forecast is now to rain today. How prescient of them?

Muddy
Muddy
September 25, 2024 8:14 am

Qld State Erection (sic).
My interpretation of the LNP propaganda received in the mail the other day:

Labor has had ten years to kick you in the head while you’re down, now it’s our turn! (You’re already semi-conscious – We won’t feel a thing).

And also:

We wear a different brand of lippy*, so we’re not COMPLETELY identical twins.

* We’re Not Them (W*NT)(TM) – Now with 2% extra glitter, made with Klimate Denier labour.

Voters are like condoms – Use once, as quickly as possible, then discard.**

** We discarded you during the covidiocy – it was easier than we thought, and consequence-free – and we know that you know we’ll do it again. Let’s keep this respectful: You’re morally floppy.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 25, 2024 8:15 am

BoM fail.
Supposed to be average rain in the SE with a possible La Nina in Spring.
Farmers know it stopped raining in August. A dry pattern has set in, though it takes some time before the paid experts confirm what we simply observe.
The old man would say “If it doesn’t rain in August, it seldom rains in September.”

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 25, 2024 8:19 am

Anyone for cat stew?

Haitian Group Asks Ohio Court to Charge Trump, Vance (24 Sep)

An immigration advocacy group asked authorities Tuesday in Springfield, Ohio, to charge former President Donald Trump and his running mate, Ohio Sen. J.D. Vance, with multiple criminal offenses related to claims they made about the city’s Haitian community.

The Haitian Bridge Alliance (HBA), a San Diego-based group, filed a bench memorandum and supporting affidavit in Clark County Municipal Court, asking a judge to charge Vance and Trump with disrupting public services, making false alarms, two counts of complicity, two counts of telecommunications harassment and aggravated menacing. The filing asks that the court find probable cause for the charges and issue arrest warrants for Trump and Vance.

Who knew that funny memes are “telecommunications harassment and aggravated menacing”? Well if they thought they were unpopular in Springfield before this they now are going be detested by 80 million Trump supporters too.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
September 25, 2024 8:21 am

Idea-deficient NSW guv dips his wick into the rental market because… something something fleeing domestic violence something.
Idiot council here is swinging at the AIR B&B list, threatening all sorts of stings like “refuge availability” requirements, garnisheeing money, and higher rates. Immediate result- lots of doctors’ wives, usually the right-on sort for the Blob, are withdrawing from the app and going word-of-mouth, cash only. Less rentals available, rental rates rise, cleaners and dry-cleaners cool off. Brilliant.

Pogria
Pogria
September 25, 2024 8:39 am
mizaris
mizaris
September 25, 2024 8:50 am

Hobbes…salient…

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Jock
Jock
September 25, 2024 8:54 am

OK. Watched a bit of Paul Murray last night. He’s loud and I was trying to stay awake. But what got me was the level of economic illiteracy. Now Murray isn’t on his tod in lacking economic nous but at least he admits it. But one thing really annoyed me. Interest rates. And the correlation with inflation. He was banging on about what people were paying for mortgages as compared to during the pandemic. The rates during the pandemic were “emergency levels” because the treasury and the rba thought there was a risk of economic meltdown. This was the worldwide thinking. Since the gfc we have had QE and emergency rates a few times especially in Europe. The point I’m making is that monetary policy has been skewed by these events. People now think interest rates should be continually low, and yet a 4% cash rate is hardly excessive and frankly it was the same or mostly lower than inflation. Rates possibly should have been higher. And if inflation abates what does the rba see as neutral rates? 2 or 3 %? The only people who gained from the extremely loose monetary policy last time were IT grifters, and asset owners. It was always going to increase inflation particularly with the extremely loose fiscal settings. Oh and that’s the other reason inflation remains high. Treasury needs a good clean out.

Pogria
Pogria
September 25, 2024 8:56 am

An excellent piece from ACE.

“Ever since the Six-Day War, Israel has diddled and vacillated and tried to please the elites in the West (primarily America) while simultaneously trying to protect its citizens from the existential threat of Islam.
Land for peace…political autonomy…hundreds of thousands of jobs for the West Bank and Gaza Arabs within Israel itself…carefully titrated responses to the never-ending terrorist attacks against its citizens.
Nothing worked. What did Israel get? Hezbollah to the North, Hamas to the South, with the even more kleptocratic but equally homicidal Palestinian Authority to the East. Thousands of Israelis have died, and the threat of both home-made and Iranian supplied missiles has never been greater. And all of this culminated in the worst attack on Jews since the Holocaust. October 7th should have been the catalyst for a radical departure from the status quo, but because of pressure from the Iran-loving American administration and Israel’s fear of Western media disapprobation, The military response has been drawn out and muted. Yes, tunnels have been destroyed, rockets have been destroyed, thousands of Hamas terrorists have been killed…but the war has been going on for more than 11 months! Israel’s goals have been muddied by the intense pressure from both the West and its own fifth column of ardent leftists.
But the magnificent operation of last week has handed Israel a tremendous opportunity to snatch back the initiative, and return to the Israel of old…lightning strikes on its enemies, daring and unconventional operations, and finally taking the fight to its real enemies.
Retired colonel Kobi Marom urges Israel to target Nasrallah in IDF ground maneuver

During the interview, Marom stated, “This week has been the hardest in the organization’s history, following severe damage to its command structure. Therefore, the question is: where is Israel headed? Do Israel’s initiative, attack, and significant damage lead Iran and Hezbollah to reach an arrangement? I say no.”Marom then explained that unless the IDF destroys Hezbollah’s power centers in Beirut and Baalbek, “Hezbollah will not sit down for negotiations, what Israel is trying to do is escalate attacks, and doing more of the same is a mistake. There is a rare, once-in-a-generation opportunity here; it’s time for brave decisions.”

Exactly. Israel does not have the luxury of time. A war of attrition favors the terrorists, who are content to conduct low-level attacks from all sides until the Israeli body politic is exhausted and ready for the existentially awful “Two State Solution.”Take the gloves off. Let the military planners do their work without political considerations that ALWAYS temper their plans.
And then conduct fast unrestricted war against Hezbollah and the remnants of Hamas. Make them shiver with fear, unsure when the next Israeli operation will come, but knowing that it will be fierce and from an unexpected direction.
That is how Israel can win its war.”

Absolutely.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
September 25, 2024 8:57 am

Pog, that noodle-arm spaffing on the warhead is Josh Shapiro, who was very nearly the Dems’ VP candidate.
Tucker Carlson called it disgusting, putting a mark on munitions which will inevitably kill innocents, in a war which the US has no active part in…. outside photo ops, exporting pallets of cash, and the buy-up of a nation by Blob allies in Black Rock and Vanguard. Disgusting, he’s right about that.

LB2
LB2
September 25, 2024 8:57 am

Hard to believe

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lotocoti
lotocoti
September 25, 2024 9:05 am

…when two military tanks collided.

Glad they clarified that.
Otherwise people might’ve assumed there were shenanigans involving Singaporeans hamster-wheeling water tanks.

Roger
Roger
September 25, 2024 9:11 am

Progressives at 12 paces:

Saturday Paper journalist lashes publication’s ‘unethical’ defence of robodebt bureaucrat

‘The newspaper for which I work has published a comment piece by Chris Wallace defending her friend of 40 years, former DHS Secretary Renee Leon. I consider the piece to be garbage revisionism, unethical and a betrayal of actual reporting and told the editors as much.’

Rick Morton

The Guardian

Leon was one of 12 public servants found by an APS inquiry to have breached the APS code of conduct 97 times.

She’s now VC of Charles Sturt University.

Pogria
Pogria
September 25, 2024 9:16 am

Javier Milei has scrapped Argentina’s rent control system. The rental market is now booming.

https://redstate.com/wardclark/2024/09/24/javier-milei-scrapped-argentinas-rent-controls-now-the-rental-housing-market-is-booming-n2179713

Roger
Roger
September 25, 2024 9:19 am

He fights Tories:

The SMH reports that Mr. 32% is about to take on negative gearing.

It’s as though he walks into his office every morning and asks, “Who can we p*ss off today?”

Eyrie
Eyrie
September 25, 2024 9:20 am

Not content with running destroyers into civilian shipping the USN has other troubles:
https://gcaptain.com/us-navy-oiler-usns-big-horn-aground-forcing-carrier-strike-group-to-scramble-for-fuel/

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 25, 2024 9:23 am

From Pogria’s post above:

all of this culminated in the worst attack on Jews since the Holocaust

Be a good hook for an article. List all of the wars Israel has been involved in, maybe with a precipitating action.

Then list all of the fatalities.

Argue a) the wars are caused by self-defence, and b) the fatality count is now the worst and totally unacceptable.

And of course the Pogria’s concluding comments are right. Wars are won by Offensive Action – one of the Principles of War I used to teach at the Naval College. Go in hard, as much as possible, and keep punching forward.

Roger
Roger
September 25, 2024 9:26 am

Powderfinger bassist John ‘JC’ Collins appointed as Queensland Night-Life Economy Commissioner

Powderfinger bassist John Collins has been appointed as the Queensland Night-Life Economy Commissioner

Mr Collins will be tasked with reviving the state’s venues, nightclubs, festivals, and restaurants. 

Mr Collins said his first priority as commissioner would be to cut red tape for late-night businesses.

ABC News

It speaks volumes about the incompetence of our political class that this appointment had to be made.

That being said, perhaps the next QLD Premier could also appoint Collins Commissioner for Revitalising the Small & Medium Business Economy.

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Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 25, 2024 9:30 am

Yay!! Yesterday I had to fill in the long (take a coffee with you) computerised St. Vincent’s Private hospital admission form to get knocked out again in Day Surgery for another pain-relieving injection into my busted coccyx – to get me through the months of booked travel in December and January. Happily, much of this form was already pre-filled by me for the same procedure last June. So we come to Weight, and that horrifying June figure from all of that South American food.

A number from which I can now edit to remove THREE KILOS.

Yes. A modified Keto diet really works, and I haven’t been hungry once since I started it nearly five weeks ago. Nor have I had to substantially change how I eat with Hairy, we always have plenty of meat, so I now I simply don’t eat any bread, rice, pasta and potatoes which he has (I eat ‘cauliflower rice’ instead plus a few low-carb vegies with cream and butter, and have berries and cream with Greek yoghurt for arvo tea – yum). Scrambled egg and mushrooms all done in butter and cream for a ‘savoury’ brekkie instead of sugar-rich Sultana Bran, and various meaty things for lunch.

Thinking about those australopithecus on the Savannah helps. 🙂

Rabz
September 25, 2024 9:32 am

32% albansleazey is about to take on negative gearing

Not to mention the “capital gains tax concession”. Surprised the ALPBC didn’t refer to it as the “capital gains tax subsidy”.

Apparently various labore MPs are out and about furiously attempting to hose down the “rumours” of these inevitable new tax increases. Wonder if they’ll wheel out teats peanuthead as well, given his magnificent efforts in 2019?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 25, 2024 9:35 am

Javier Milei has scrapped Argentina’s rent control system. 

He has to navigate the internal politics carefully. These two stories are fun when seen together…

Falklands panic as Argentina sparks fresh fears of land grab in cryptic statement (24 Sep)

Argentina has sparked fresh fears of land grab over a potential threat to the country’s sovereignty in the Falklands and surrounding seas.

Argentina Sends More Gold To London (23 Sep)

In July, the Central Bank of Argentina (BCRA) shipped another 3 tonnes of gold to the U.K. to swap for foreign exchange. A month prior, BCRA also transported 3 tonnes to the U.K. BCRA is now estimated to have 37 tonnes (60% of Argentina’s gold reserves) on swap in the London Bullion Market.

Putting 60% of your gold in the hands of the British Government when planning to invade a British territory seems unwise!

The problem is of course that the Argie-in-the-street is completely loopy when it comes to the Falklands. Romantics one and all despite Argentina never actually owning the place, except for a couple times when they invaded and were unceremoniously booted off again by the Royal Navy.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 25, 2024 9:42 am

There’s a heap of variable quality information on Youtube re diets of various types. I mostly tend to watch more those who come from a genuinely academic biochemical or cellular biology perspective rather than the pushers of various theories and associated products. Some very interesting work is being done and published in the keogenic metabolic field now.

Hairy laughs to visitors that Lizzie’s study has long and intense monologues on the chemistry of human metabolism coming down the hallway keeping her busier than political blogging right now. Makes a change when the surge for Kamala was getting me too cross to continue.

Roger
Roger
September 25, 2024 10:00 am

Sir Keir Starmer warns Britain to ‘turn up our collar and face the storm’ as he hinted at years of tax rises during downbeat speech

Daily Mail

More taxes and more illegals to be granted asylum.

No wonder Britons are depressed.

Roger
Roger
September 25, 2024 10:02 am

There’s a heap of variable quality information on Youtube re diets of various types.

You mean to say that not everyone on the interwebs can be trusted?

Shirley not!

😀

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 25, 2024 10:04 am

Eyrie
 September 25, 2024 9:20 am
More on this fuel issue.
We really do have to ask what the Hell is going on in the supposedly professional US armed forces.
That, however, would bring the lesson home that we need to have a navy/army/air force ourselves.
Meanwhile, we are closing facilities to build and supply the equipment we need while making recruiting for these forces is dropping like a Hezbollah Pager.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 25, 2024 10:08 am

I wonder why he chose that name for his company?

Scrap law making schools serve meat, urges Labour donor (Who Owns A Vegan Food Company!) (24 Sep)

Major Labour donor Dale Vince says he wants to talk to the new government about scrapping compulsory meat and dairy in school meals in England.

The green entrepreneur, who has donated more than £5m to Labour, says vegan meals are healthier and better for the environment.

He is campaigning for an end to all farming of animals, which he says is now the biggest driver of the climate crisis.

He told a fringe meeting at Labour’s conference that his company, Devil’s Kitchen, already supplies vegan food to “one in four” primary schools.

Calling a vegan food provider to primary school children “Devil’s Kitchen” is really rather interesting. I should read Good Omens again.

Rabz
September 25, 2024 10:11 am

I have no problem at all if they go back to the old CPI formula for CGT.

The current CGT system is supposed to “simplify” that. Oddly I suspect the tax revenues increased significantly after this simplification.

Excellent point, BoN, which my accountant agrees with.

However, there should be no tax on capital gains at all, as it is simply blatant extortion.

Having said that, some other winning policy positions for labore would be CGT on principal residences and death duties, as per their greenfilth bedmates’ “policy” manifesto.

We all know they want to.

Roger
Roger
September 25, 2024 10:16 am

The green entrepreneur, who has donated more than £5m to Labour…

“It’s just the way politics is done.”

Deputy PM Angela Rayner on the BBC this week.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 25, 2024 10:20 am

Scale of existing turbines in NW Vic and the new Bowen Fan Club merch

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Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 25, 2024 10:24 am

Gaza, Gaia…only one letter difference, easy to mix them up.

Greta Thunberg: Palestine’s fight & climate change are linked (24 Sep)

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 25, 2024 10:26 am

Victoria again leading the way in corruption. Top story online at The Australian.

“Victorian public servants found to have hacked fire chiefs’ emails to help union boss Peter Marshall”.

Marshall was getting inside information taken by IT guys from Fire bosses computers and discussing with Ministers before they had even received the information. Fire Chiefs could tell leaking was going on.

Roger
Roger
September 25, 2024 10:31 am

Greta Thunberg: Palestine’s fight & climate change are linked (24 Sep)

“And what are you rebelling against, Greta?”

“What have you got?”

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 25, 2024 10:36 am

Herald Sun now covering the story with more to come.

Militant union boss Peter Marshall has been implicated in a major corruption report, after it was revealed he pressured senior Fire Services Victoria staff to illegally share confidential information to further his own interests.

A bombshell report, published by the Independent Broad-based Anti-corruption Commission on Tuesday, revealed Mr Marshall worked with senior staff at the former Metropolitan Fire Brigade, now FRV, to access sensitive data after he became convinced he was the subject of a WorkSafe bullying investigation.

It found he also used illegally shared information to pressure the Andrews government and former emergency services minister Lisa Neville over a range of matters.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 25, 2024 10:40 am

Heh.

SpaceX@SpaceX

FAA Administrator Whitaker made several incorrect statements today regarding SpaceX. In fact, every statement he made was incorrect.

It is deeply concerning that the Administrator does not appear to have accurate information immediately available to him with respect to SpaceX licensing matters.

7:36 AM · Sep 25, 2024

I really do hope he launches his giant rocket without FAA approval. They’re being bastards.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 25, 2024 10:59 am

Greta Thunberg. She looke like the product of a brother and sister that had a root. The looks of inbreeding.

I know, it’s a harsh thing to say.

Funninly enough, her family lineage goes all the way back to Svante Arrhenius.

Arrhenius was the first to use the principles of physical chemistry to estimate the extent to which increases in the atmospheric carbon dioxide are responsible for the Earth’s increasing surface temperature. His work played an important role in the emergence of modern climate science

Black Ball
Black Ball
September 25, 2024 11:01 am

Voice to Parliament by any other means than, you know, democratically elected. Read and weep, Daily Telegraph:

The overseas travel spend for the Ambassador for First Nations People is “extraordinary” and the role should instead focus on “children suffering appalling abuse,” says an Australian on the United Nations’ top body for Indigenous issues.

Academic and human rights lawyer Hannah McGlade launched the stinging rebuke on Tuesday as Foreign Affairs Minister Penny Wong stepped up her defence of the role of First Nations People ambassador, Justin Mohamed.

Senator Wong was stirred into action after Peter Dutton vowed to abolish the role, with the Opposition leader declaring the $350,000 budgeted for Mr Mohamed’s business-class international trips last financial year would be better spent on “Australians who are struggling at the moment to keep a roof over their head or to pay their electricity bill.”

In New York, Ms Wong hit back, saying it was “disappointing that Mr Dutton doesn’t see a role for Indigenous Australians in representing Australia.

“We see again his character on display. He divides us at home, and frankly, he diminishes us in the world,” she said.

While Ms Wong was prepared to take on Mr Dutton, her office had nothing to say about Ms McGlade’s comments.

While Ms Wong was prepared to take on Mr Dutton, her office had nothing to say about Ms McGlade’s comments.

Ms McGlade, who is Aboriginal and has been a member of the United Nations Permanent Forum for Indigenous Issues (UNPFII) for nearly five years, had said: “Honestly I think it’s an extraordinary amount of travel and costs associated with the role of Ambassador to date.”

Writing on LinkedIn, she added: “As a member of UNPFII I’m disappointed the Ambassador [role] does not appear focused on advancing Indigenous people’s rights, especially the rights of children suffering appalling abuse in Australia”.

This masthead was unable to contact Ms McGlade directly. On LinkedIn, she was replying to a post by Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Social Justice Commissioner Katie Kiss.

Ms Kiss had defended the Ambassador’s role and described Mr Dutton’s view as “disappointing.”

Mr Mohamed did not respond to a request for comment; nor did his employer, the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade.

On Tuesday, this masthead revealed the Ambassador’s role has a salary range between $240,000 and $326,000.

The revelation has brought more scrutiny of the role, which the Opposition Leader Peter Dutton on Monday vowed to abolish after this masthead brought to light the full extent of the position’s overseas travel budget.

The world-first role was established in March 2023, with Labor declaring the “new position ensures, for the first time, that Australia will have dedicated Indigenous representation in our international engagement.”

At a Senate estimates hearing on June 3 this year, Shadow Minister for Indigenous Australians Jacinta Nampijinpa Price asked Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade bureaucrats for details of Mr Mohamed’s salary.

The officials said Mr Mohamed was “engaged at the SES band 2 level.”

The 2022-23 DFAT annual report shows that the Senior Executive Service band 2 was paid between $240,000 and $326,000.

Senator Price asked for Mr Mohamed’s specific salary. The bureaucrats didn’t know and said they would “have to take on notice the exact package he’s on.”

It appears no answer has been provided to date.

However, on Monday, the Albanese government confirmed to this masthead that the pay grade and range was correct

Mr Mohamed declined to comment on Monday, other than to say he was not upgraded to first class on any of the nine overseas trips he undertook in 2023-24. Four of the journeys were to the US; two were to Geneva, Switzerland.

Mr Mohamed’s business-class flights cost more than $100,000; the bill for his overseas hotels was more than $30,000.

Including the travel expenses of Mr Mohamed’s support staff, DFAT budgeted more than $350,000 for the nine trips.

Mr Dutton told Sydney’s 2GB radio that “if it is the case that we win the next election, that position will be abolished on day one.

There’s more to the item at hand but you get the drift.
Whilst most blacks are on Struggle St, along with a fair proportion of the nation as a whole, these turds are pissing on your neck and telling you it’s raining. A deplorable set of circumstances.
Shut it down, fire them all.

Roger
Roger
September 25, 2024 11:05 am

In New York, Ms Wong hit back, saying it was “disappointing that Mr Dutton doesn’t see a role for Indigenous Australians in representing Australia.

Dutton disappoints me too but that’s not what he said.

“We see again his character on display. He divides us at home, and frankly, he diminishes us in the world,” she said.

That’s rich given Wong’s recent performance.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 25, 2024 11:09 am

When you’ve lost Dick Smith…

Dick Smith weighs in on the nuclear energy debate, saying Australia is ‘dumb’ (25 Sep)

Businessman Dick Smith has thrown his support behind an overhaul of Australia’s energy system, saying nuclear power is “the only answer.”

Mr Smith has long maintained that renewables alone could not keep electricity flowing across the country, despite independent modelling suggesting otherwise.

But in his latest comments on Wednesday, Mr Smith reasoned that Australia should switch to nuclear because China is ramping up its nuclear infrastructure and “the Chinese are smart.”

Interesting how some greenies like Dick Smith and Bob Brown are getting red pilled lately, at least a little bit. Says everything that Bowen is now to the left of them.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 25, 2024 11:10 am

From my reply to Pogria, for more general dissemination re diet.

I really do think we evolved via a lot of meat eating, and from what I know of hunter-gatherer cultures in Savannah environments, such as the central Australian desert tribes, the meat protein diet (much of it ‘gathered’ as insects or small animals) is only supplemented by roots and seeds, nuts and berries. Coastal communities relied on hunting but also a lot of protein from seafood, and Bruce Pascoe be damned.

Our omnivore dentition, used in the past by anthropologists to suggest a high plant-based diet during human evolution, is being explained more recently by a focus on the early presence of the use of fire, and hence – cooking! – which softens meat and makes our modified lesser canine-teeth dentition explicable for predominantly meat eaters. It is fascinating on the internet to see a major debate being fought so fiercely between the ‘carnivore’ keto-style dieters and the ‘food pyramid’ orthodoxy of plant-based and grain dependent existence.

The greenies, of course, are all plant-based freaks, and the whole science of metabolic disorders due to plant-based diets is anathema to green ideologues who want to prohibit meat eating. I suspect too that over millennia since the Neolithic where a major dietary shift occurred certain populations have accommodated physiologically to different sorts of diets.

Kennedy, now a Trump supporter, is onto this quite a bit.
Meat eaters unite, you have nothing to lose but your American obesity.
Especially the epidemic of obese children, who are now being dangerously put on Ozempic, with all of its side effects, when a dietary change is what is most needed.

Pogria
Pogria
September 25, 2024 11:18 am

Courtesy of Michael Smith. Laugh out loud funny!!!

https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2024/09/the-horror-the-horror.html

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 25, 2024 11:21 am

Karens are a plague on humanity, change my mind.

Sad update on Molly the magpie and Peggy the staffy (24 Sep)

The photos are charming! Here’s the rub of the story from the A Current Affair link:

Eventually, authorities granted a licensce with special conditions so Molly could return home to owners Juliette Wells and Reece Mortensen.

But A Current Affair can reveal their licence to keep Molly is now being called into question.

Legal documents have revealed an anonymous wildlife support volunteer and magpie specialist is challenging the Queensland government’s decision to reunite the magpie with the family. …

The applicant is unnamed in court documents and will stay anonymous as they contest the government’s decision to grant them a special licence to care for Molly.

Over one magpie?! This is mad. The waste of time over this when the birdie is obviously happy is just insane.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 25, 2024 11:22 am

Russell Broadbent MP has a short clip on YouTube called Tell your stories.
He is talking about how the vaccine injury compensation scheme will end on Monday.
Is asking people to tell their vaccine injured stories to local MP or to Daily Mail.

Figures
Figures
September 25, 2024 11:45 am

The problem with vaccines is not “too many too soon” or “have they done a randomised double blind placebo trial with an actual placebo”?

The problem is epistemology.

If people had bothered to approach medicine using a modicum of thought rather than “let’s make up a theory that enriches lots of people and justifies totalitarianism and simply ignore every obvious and relevant fact which proves we’re wrong” the whole thing would have been sorted out thousands of years ago.

The incredible thing is how astonishingly obvious it all is when you actually step back, ignore the brainwashing and actually think.

You simply can’t not see it. Unless you’re an abject imbecile.

Take blatantly obvious phenomena that anybody in history could have observed – no need for microscopes or PhDs or whatever – and the cause of disease is obvious to anybody with an IQ above 10.

1) Most people get sick much more than once in their life (which means that most people recover from most illnesses). This means that disease is an endogenous process (ie controlled from start to finish) or, at the very least, is dominated by negative feedbacks.

2) Symptoms sometimes cluster around multiple people. So disease is caused by something multiple people can experience.

3) Doctors and their patients are clearly not in any danger (doctors never have any trouble getting life insurance). So whilst disease is shared (as in 2)), it is not spread. Sick people are not the cause of disease.

4) Rashes are typically focused. So disease is caused by something that understands and differentiates between different parts of our body.

5) Animals often physically freeze when they’re trapped (tonic immobility). This is made famous by the opossum (why we have the term “playing possum”). So disease can be related to trauma.

Now, the cause of disease is blatantly obvious from all this – the mind’s response to emotional traumas. And all of this could have been realised before anybody looked through a microscope. The fact that not one person in a million saw it in history is testament to how dumb and easily brainwashed people are.

But we can go even further today though because we do have microscopes and they are telling us that germs are completely ubiquitous – if they had anything to do with disease there would be no living organisms to experience it.

We also have phenomenon surrounding antibiotics. Most people would consider this as proof that germ theory is correct when it is actually the exact opposite. People can have specific germs which are clearly killed by antibiotics (as shown in a petrie dish) and yet they fail to improve. Conversely, people can have specific germs that are not killed by antibiotics (as shown in a petrie dish) and yet they still see their symptoms improve.

IOW, antibiotics do kill germs and they can suppress symptoms, but it is certain that they do not suppress symptoms because they kill germs. Antibiotics cause a change in our subconscious mindset (a reaction to being poisoned) which makes us feel better (like when we go out and get drunk when we have a cold) in the short term but make the eventual healing (sickness symptoms) much worse.

And of course there is vaccination. The most obvious scam in history. 99% of people have fallen for it though – even people who claim to be vaccine skeptics tend to have a far better view of them than they deserve.

All anybody ever had to do was look at total rates of paralysis since the polio vaccine and they would have understood what a gigantic fraud it was.

Astonishingly, even though everybody always says “you never see polio anymore hurr durr” not one person in a million bothered to check to see if paralysis rates had actually fallen since the polio vaccine.

They had not. Or if congenital defect rates had fallen since the rubella vaccine or sterility had fallen after the mumps vaccine or liver cancer rates after the Hep B vaccine etc etc.

None of the diseases fell – doctors just refused to diagnose them in vaccinated patients (and the diagnostic criteria was often strengthened so that lab tests were now required).

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 25, 2024 11:49 am

This cover band still spins me out.

Homage at its finest.

“Little Lies” Fleetwood Mac performed by Rumours of Fleetwood Mac

Figures
Figures
September 25, 2024 11:57 am

Whether or not there has been a true placebo in any vaccine trial is irrelevant.

Randomised double blind placebo trials are completely invalid regardless of whether you use an actual placebo.

For a hundred years epidemiologist imbeciles (but I repeat myself) have said that this is the gold standard of testing – that there could be no bias from such a brilliantly conducted study.

Complete nonsense. If you’re not a retard you will see the obvious flaw:

Anybody in the trial who gets the vaccine (rather than the (inert) placebo) will know that they got the vaccine if they experience a reaction (even if it’s just a minor one). The study is no longer blinded for many of the participants.

As every participant is presumably a vaccine zealot (given they are self-selected) they are likely to try and use this information to manipulate the data to make the vaccine look safe and effective.

This is what happened in the polio vaccine field trials. Everybody marvelled at how “scientific” the study was. It was complete horseshit.

Of course, if you use a poison (eg an older vaccine) as the placebo instead, you are just comparing one poison to another. You get around the problem of participants being unblinded but create a different but equally devastating problem for the validity of the trial.

Note that the same problem holds true for any kind of chemo drug trials.

And this is why I say it comes down to epistemology. We got it horrifically wrong with epidemiology – an absolute joke of a “science” – because we were only concerned with being told we were already right. The germ industry was already worth the equivalent of trillions of dollars and formed the basis of the power of so many politicians before there was a way to verify if any of it was true.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 25, 2024 12:05 pm

Homage at its finest.

I can do that.

Researchers determine female gibbons dance for attention (Phys.org, 24 Sep)

I had a memorable month in Perth once, in an apartment next to Perth Zoo. The gibbons would wake me each morning. They were loud and musical!

So I suspect female gibbons also add vocals to their dancing, sort of like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmAz62Ys3oY

Maybe the female gibbons should wear red dresses too.

shatterzzz
September 25, 2024 12:05 pm

How good is the Sunday Park footie management .. ? .. Yesterday they announced that “addled” was on a 4 game suspension & $15 000 fine for bringing the game “into disrepute” .. What they didn’t shout out was it’s, actually, a 3 game suspension .. cos .. drum V’Landy’, pleeeze ..! …. He stood himself down from the Manly game so that counts as one game …….. LOL!
?They then invoked another $3 000 suspended fine from last years “koori” rubbish cos it’s inside the 12 months good behavior clause ……. !

Vicki
Vicki
September 25, 2024 12:07 pm

I don’t know if many Cats read the daily sub stack of the German academic eugypius. He is a sensible conservative and was a great supporter of the unvaccinated during the Covid madness. Today he has written about the decline of the Greens in Germany, where he resides. I hope this is an omen for the loss of support for those clowns here.

Make no mistake about it: If you live in a developed Western democracy, you have spent the last decades wrestling with the insanity of the Greens. This is true whether or not your political system has allowed this noxious force to condense into a specifically named Green Party, or whether – as in the United States –the Greens exist instead as a nebulous, diffuse faction within your progressive establishment. Whatever the politics of your country, the Greens have specific features that make them easy to identify. They are worried about carbon emissions, they cast themselves as defenders of the rights of racial and sexual minorities, they support mass migration, they believe ardently in technological progress and they cultivate a distinctly internationalist political outlook. Those are the Greens I’m talking about.

I have been thinking a lot about the Greens since their drubbing in the recent German elections. Something strange and unexpected is happening to them – something that even two years ago I wouldn’t have predicted. They are bleeding support; they are on the defensive and suddenly everybody hates them. In East Germany you could even say that they are in outright collapse. The party of the future, the party of the youth, the party at the cutting edge of progressivism, is now withering on the vine. And I suspect that this is not just happening in Germany. It may be happening here faster than it is in other countries, but the Greens are an international phenomenon, and Green politics is in trouble in many places beyond the Federal Republic. 
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What is going on with the Greens? Are they really done for? And if they are, what kind of politics will replace them? These questions are hugely important, because the Greens are not just another political faction. They are an entire elite-centred movement, distinguished by a peculiar body of moral doctrines and religious beliefs. To understand what is happening to them, we must begin by asking where they came from, and who they are…

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 25, 2024 12:10 pm
Tom
Tom
September 25, 2024 12:17 pm

Of all the Albanese regime’s Big Government fantasies, the High Speed Rail Authority — to which the regime has allocated $500 million — is one of the most ludicrous.

Albanese, of course, was transport minister in the RGR circus and regularly used high speed rail to pump out feelgood fantasy press releases.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 25, 2024 12:18 pm

I am the only true conservative on this blog.

shatterzzz
September 25, 2024 12:19 pm

The moment the Greatest historian of modern times learns the Holocaust is a hoax.
Wonder how much he got paid ..? .. Must have been a tidy sum to trash his world renowned reputation .. FFS!

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/166/584/357/playable/98d3aa66fc7e279a.mp4

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 25, 2024 12:22 pm

Science!

Fecal transplants reduce ADHD and anxiety symptoms in dogs with epilepsy, researchers find (Phys.org, 24 Sep)

Researchers from the Texas A&M College of Veterinary Medicine and Biomedical Sciences (VMBS) and Center for Systems Neuroscience in Hannover, Germany have discovered that fecal microbiota transplants (FMT) can reduce negative mental health symptoms in dogs with epilepsy—especially in dogs with a version of epilepsy that is resistant to drugs.

The work is published in the journal Frontiers in Veterinary Science.

Well yes, I would indeed characterize squirting shit up a mad dog’s bum as being on the absolute bleeding edge of the frontiers of veterinary science.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 25, 2024 12:25 pm

Academic and human rights lawyer Hannah McGlade launched the stinging rebuke on Tuesday as Foreign Affairs Minister Penny Wong stepped up her defence of the role of First Nations People ambassador, Justin Mohamed.

So…the spent Penny sees these First Nations as foreign and external to Australia.

She then goes on to say:

“We see again his (Dutton’s) character on display. He divides us at home, and frankly, he diminishes us in the world,” she said.

For what it is worth Dutton never said that there was one group that needed the money spent on it. He is so bad at being divisive!

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Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 25, 2024 12:29 pm

Bottled water is killing the planet.

Bottled water has a huge and growing toll on human and planetary health, experts warn (Phys.org, 24 Sep)

The huge and growing toll bottled water is taking on human and planetary health warrants an urgent rethink of its use as 1 million bottles are bought every minute around the globe, with that figure set to rise further still amid escalating demand, warn population health experts in a commentary published in the open access journal BMJ Global Health.

Fine by me, we should drink beer instead.

WATCH: Toddler Seen Chugging Beer at Texas Game (24 Sep)

A toddler was shockingly spotted on video chugging a beer at Darrell K Royal-Texas Memorial Stadium in Austin on Saturday, and the video is going viral.

She’s going to grow up into a fine human being!

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Eyrie
Eyrie
September 25, 2024 12:31 pm

I had a memorable month in Perth once, in an apartment next to Perth Zoo. The gibbons would wake me each morning. They were loud and musical!

Many, many years ago a bloke lived in the apartments overlooking the South Perth Zoo. He had to get up early for work so near first light he would get out on the verandah and beat his chest and scream in his best Tarzan imitation. Really stirred up the apes and monkeys, much to the annoyance of the other neighbours.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
September 25, 2024 12:32 pm

“Candy is dandy but liquor is quicker!” (from Willy Wonka)
Nuclear is dandy but coal is quicker, or at least cheap, effective, and already here and we have hundreds of years of reserves.
Gas is dandy too, but the ideological useful idiots have hamstrung that as well.
Off with their heads, as the Red Queen said.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 25, 2024 12:36 pm

I remember being depressed at having lost a leg.

But then I watched a few episodes of Fawlty Towers and, with my new-found glee another leg started budding off from the stump and I was dancing the next weekend.

Thanks, Mr Cleese. And real science.

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Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
September 25, 2024 12:36 pm

Bruce, maaan, free your mind.
At first glance- and with a primer on gut-biota-brain interface in effed up kids- it’s sound science. And not the worst job a vet would have to roll up sleeves for, neither.
Plus, ADHD and anxiety-stricken dogs- read, outdoor have-a-go pack creatures who are locked up alone- are a great viaduct for the transfer of wealth from the doctors’ wives and WIFOs of the SW to my humble shack.
Double plus, if this frontier eventually gets the human kids off their soul-sucking pharmatasmagorical cocktail of uppers and downers, then it’s Nobel Prize stuff as far as I’m concerned.

Kneel
Kneel
September 25, 2024 12:59 pm

Figures: “For a hundred years epidemiologist imbeciles (but I repeat myself)…”

Epidemiology, like most fields of statistics, is valuable because it tells you things that are anti-intuitive, but easily shown to be true.
I’ve posted this to the old cat, but not, I think, here yet, so here goes…

I have a medical test for a condition that is 99% accurate and has no bias in the errors – that is to say, on average we expect 99 correct results and one erroneous result for every 100 tests we make, and it is just as likely that the test gives a false positive as a false negative.

We take this test and administer it to a random person we pull off the street.
The result is positive.

What are the chances this person has the condition the test tests for?
Write down your answer.

If I told you that the condition we are testing for is fairly rare, in that only 1 in every 10,000 people in the general population has it, does that change your answer? Write down that answer as well.

Done?

Good.

Now lets go through the math.

Let’s say we give the test to 10,000 people, and further more that we have a “perfect” sample of the population in that only one person in our test group actually has the condition – we know this a priori, 100% certain sure it is true.
The test results we get will indicate 99,or much more likely 101 people have the disease.
Why? our 1% error rate, remember? 1% of 10,000 is 100. The “99 or 101” comes because the error COULD be the one person with the disease going false negative, but it is much more likely they will test correctly – 99:1, right?
Yet we know, 100% sure of it, that only one does have the condition.
Meaning that our 99% accurate test, in this particular case, only gives us very close to a 1% chance that if you test positive, you actually have the condition – because of the 101 (most likely) that tested positive, only one actually has it, right?

Now go back and read the answers you wrote down – most likely, you said 99% and telling you how prevalent it was generally did not change your answer. If you did answer so – and most people, including medical professionals do – then you were not just wrong, but spectacularly wrong.

This is a very simple example of why epidemiology is important and required if you want actual evidence based medicine. It also gives you an insight into why most epidemiologists never say they have proof, only that “current data gives a strong indication” – they know they could easily have missed something. And they also know that if they do miss something, it could easily make them just as spectacularly wrong as most people noted above.

JC
JC
September 25, 2024 1:09 pm
Rabz
September 25, 2024 1:12 pm

greenfilth:

believe ardently in technological progress 

In which bizarre parallel universe?

They believe ardently in taking humanity back to the dark ages.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 25, 2024 1:34 pm

Lebanon: During a wild tirade, Reda Saad, a pro-Hezbollah commentator, did not even bother to hide a deep-seated antagonism against Lebanon’s Christians, who have historically been the largest demographic of the nation, although now they are a close second to Muslims:

“I fear that the Christians in Lebanon will face a similar destiny to that of the Afghans, when they clung to the wheels of the American helicopters and are thrown from the sky. I fear that you won’t have an airport or a port [to flee from]. And perhaps the foreign warships are coming to take you, to the last of you…. Unfortunately, did you see where you ended up? You can’t even appoint a president!…. So let everyone know that the role of Christians in Lebanon has ended! You have become a minority in this country, and yet you still hold high positions… Nobody would accept this issue. The coming generations will not accept it. They will not accept that the president must be Christian; he must be a Sunni Muslim or Shi’ite.”

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/20966/persecution-of-christians-august
If there is a further/longer speech, Gatestone don’t supply a link.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 25, 2024 2:05 pm

Meanwhile in the UK:

I’m Britain’s ‘welfare Queen’ and I’ve spent taxpayers’ cash on a boob job, designer vagina and a horse – being on benefits has never held me back

I know a bloke who’s been on benefits here for 25 years and the system basically does nothing about it.

Daily Mail

Morsie
Morsie
September 25, 2024 2:10 pm

Sat through a presentation by the head of Ferron Energy.They are looking to establish a renewable energy source by burning iron .I got a bit lost after that.They do seem to be a long way down the track.Any technical cats know anything about it or care to comment?

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 25, 2024 2:17 pm

Fine by me, we should drink beer instead.

Bottled water. Stubbies contain water.

BoN may correct me but I’d suggest over 90% of a stubbie is water.

We recycle empty stubbies.

Gays and hippies just dump plastic water bottles.

shatterzzz
September 25, 2024 2:23 pm

Shirley, this is a bit on the rubbery figures side ..! Using one-off payments to claim that inflation is coming down ..FFS!
Bit like headlining that once every 14 dayz OAPs are a lot better off than last week cos they got their fortnightly stipend ……. LOL!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-25/monthly-inflation-2-7-per-cent-august-2024-australia/104392940

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 25, 2024 2:24 pm

Sat through a presentation by the head of Ferron Energy. They are looking to establish a renewable energy source by burning iron.

They’re not totally off the planet but I would not be investing any hard earned in them.

Welcome to the New Iron Age (Ferron website)

Renewables such as wind and solar power account for less than 20% of energy generation and are not suited to the provision of high temperature industrial heat as well as suffering from intermittency in power delivery. …

All good until…

The recycled iron fuel can be burned again to repeat the cycle, creating a true circular iron power system. The combustion process and recycling with green hydrogen to recharge the fuel is completely CO2 free.

Green hydrogen is completely bonkers. Using green hydrogen to make iron is ridiculously beyond infinity bonkers. Burning iron for energy, made by green hydrogen, is so off the planet I wish for a dinosaur asteroid.

The subsidies and the grift are just so yummy though.

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Figures
Figures
September 25, 2024 2:25 pm

That’s an astonishing post Kneel given epidemiologists are the most dogmatic “scientists” that have ever walked the face of this earth. You never hear engineers or nuclear physicists or mathematicians tell people “you have to do exactly as I say because I’m an expert” – even though such people are dealing in an actually valid field of knowledge.

Epidemiologists told us we should shut down our economy and take a useless and dangerous concoction all on the basis that there was no possible way that they could have been wrong.

If you were to take a survey of epidemiologists I’m sure you would find at least 95% support for censorship of questioning the medical establishment. Not sure what the error rate or base sample of such a survey would be but I think you get the idea.

I mean, your example is fine and well made, but I can’t for the life of me understand how you think it supports the integrity of epidemiology. I was discussing the fundamental flaw in randomised double-blind placebo controlled trials. I am sure there are plenty of other flaws in epidemiology but why on earth would such flaws increase my confidence in it?

And this reinforces something I noticed. Absolutely nobody ever addresses any of my points. You just say “but look over here!”

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 25, 2024 2:30 pm

I’ve just watched, live, another Elon Starlink launch.
Some bits of civilization still work.

https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1838789456331223071

shatterzzz
September 25, 2024 2:37 pm

Impressive CV …….!

Reality
NFA
NFA
September 25, 2024 2:55 pm

Leigh Lowe

Your face looks worse than if a cat shat on it.

Your a gormless f*ckwith.

Going to America to collect the reward for his death?

Be about your style

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
September 25, 2024 3:00 pm

Typical female Demonrat
Again stretching my capacity to distinguish satire from tragedy.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 25, 2024 3:08 pm

From Rafes latest newsletter:

21.15 The Impossible Task of the Green Energy Transition with Existing Technology

August 2021

Background. The Energy Security Board is preparing recommendations for market reforms to make the green energy transition as quickly as possible

The Problem. The fundamental problem is the gap in supply of wind and solar power on windless nights. Very high levels of installed RE capacity provide no power in the absence of wind and sun.

It looks like the Victorian government is finally stirring in its slumber. But is it too late? Only time will tell.

Indolent
Indolent
September 25, 2024 3:18 pm

It’s interesting to note that, in RFK’s case, everything goes way beyond the Covid jab. He’s been harshly critical of the whole childhood vaccine program for years.

@CollinRugg

NEW: Former CDC Director Robert Redfield endorses Donald Trump, admits to Robert F. Kennedy Jr. he “got everything right.”

RFK Jr. explained how he was appalled to find out that Redfield, who he was extremely critical of, was endorsing Trump.

“Robert Redfield, who I really go after in my Fauci book, wrote an editorial in Newsweek magazine today saying that he was endorsing President Trump because President Trump was gonna restore American health.”

Redfield said: “He has chosen exactly the only person who can do this, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.”

“This was breathtaking to me because this is the guy who’s the head of the CDC that I’ve been criticizing for years, and then this afternoon he came over and had lunch with me.”

“And the first thing he said to me is: ‘You got everything right.’”

Wow.

Vicki
Vicki
September 25, 2024 3:23 pm

Fecal transplants reduce ADHD and anxiety symptoms in dogs with epilepsy, researchers find (Phys.org, 24 Sep)

I am commenting on this in a separate post because I think it is important. It seems to me that the gut microbiome connection with both the immune system and the gut/brain axis is one of the most promising research areas today – in humans or – by extension I guess – animals.

At this point in time quite a few immunologists and research scientists are working on the connection of Long Covid symptoms and the gut microbiome. Prof. Bob Clancy is one them and has recently discussed his research with John Campbell (Utube) – for those interested.

Relevant are quite a few medical journal articles on the evidence of the efficacy of some probiotics in addressing anxiety and other related symptoms. If I recall – bifidobacterium longus is one recommended.

Faecal transplants were pioneered in this country by Prof. Tom Borody. I know of patients with longstanding digestive problems who greatly benefited from this treatment.

alwaysright
alwaysright
September 25, 2024 3:28 pm

Now you see me.

Ha!
Now you don’t.

Indolent
Indolent
September 25, 2024 3:29 pm
Kneel
Kneel
September 25, 2024 3:29 pm

‘I mean, your example is fine and well made, but I can’t for the life of me understand how you think it supports the integrity of epidemiology.’

You said epidemiology was “crap” or “useless” or whatever it was – can’t be bothered going back to check. I simply made the point that it provides anti-intuitive results that are provably true, and therefor it has value.
And I note that your arguments appear to be based on intuitive evaluation and “common sense”, which is not always correct as my example also demonstrates.

You may as well say all doctors are bad because a lot said “take the vax”, even though many also advised against it but were unable to provide you with any sort of exemption (I know, I tried!)

So individual practitioners of medicine and/or epidemiology may be somewhat lacking in moral virtues and/or be unable to assist you in avoiding the dictats from our inestimable political class, but that doesn’t mean the entire field is not worth a second of your time or a dollar of your money. They may often be wrong, as these are very complex and difficult fields of study, but that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t pay attention to what they say – whether you take the advise or not is up to you, but I think it is something you should at least consider, especially if you have found a doctor that you trust. If you haven’t then keep looking – you can’t know everything, and it is more likely they will have better info than you at any one time on any one subject.

Your body, your life, your choice.
I advise at least listening to experts and getting second or even third opinions, but that is up to you. Listen to some dude on youtube if you prefer.

Indolent
Indolent
September 25, 2024 3:33 pm
Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 25, 2024 3:38 pm

dover0beach September 25, 2024 2:51 pm
From the link within the link:

My theory is the Russians torpedoed it in retaliation for the NATO-led strike on Toropets.

Interesting theory with a high percentage of accuracy in my humble opinion.
We are at Step 7 (aproximately) in the Traditional Crises section on Herman Kahns 44 step Escalation Ladder. *
Plenty of time to stop the game of Nuclear Chicken.
Two big assumptions:

  1. Our leaders are sane and not sociopaths.
  2. Our leaders don’t have ‘end of world’ fallout shelters.

We may have to rethink those two assumptions.
*All my downloads are in PDF and linking to them are difficult. This link will help, I hope.

Indolent
Indolent
September 25, 2024 3:42 pm
Vicki
Vicki
September 25, 2024 3:46 pm

You may as well say all doctors are bad because a lot said “take the vax”, even though many also advised against it but were unable to provide you with any sort of exemption (I know, I tried!)

Kneel, I agree, there ARE some great doctors around. But, as in all fields, the cream is at the top, and most of us only partake of the milk.

Quite frankly, I think that that Covid had yet another consequence – namely, it destroyed the myth of many patients that their GPs were better than they actually are. Like all professionals, they acquire knowledge with years of practice. But although there are basic premises on which modern medicine operates successfully, there are also areas in which research has overturned previous assumptions (think cardio). It is my experience that very very few GPs keep abreast of research that is readily available in journals. Of course, Covid has also brought many of these publications into disrepute because of links with Big Pharma – but that is another issue.

I still think surgery is one of the most proficient, skilful and successful areas of medicine today. (Although, having read the material of Prof.Ian Harris on dubious back surgery, I might make exceptions). But the astonishing failure of the medical profession in general – in particular the retirees, since the practising medicos were compromised – is something I will never forget.

Kneel
Kneel
September 25, 2024 3:48 pm

“And this reinforces something I noticed. Absolutely nobody ever addresses any of my points. You just say “but look over here!””

You say there is a flaw in the double-blind process, and perhaps there is. However, the entire point of such processes is to reduce extraneous factors as much as possible, including “I took a pill that’ll fix me!” etc. Everyone gets a pill, they all look the same to the doctor administering it, the patient doesn’t know and the doctor doesn’t know who’s getting the one with the active ingredient and who’s getting the one that is all sugar. Same with injections, everyone gets one, some are active others are not.
If you have found a flaw, then publish on it – or perhaps better yet, ask someone who does such studies if they have a way to control for what you perceive is the flaw. They may already do something about it. Or perhaps not because there are ethics involved as well – you won’t get them to do things that can or can potentially harm a patient, so that’s a limit you have to live with. You can’t deliberately give someone what is called an incurable disease because you think you have a cure – what if you are wrong and it is no cure at all?

Indolent
Indolent
September 25, 2024 3:56 pm

This, from Dr. Suneel Dhand, is quite interesting.

SORRY: But YOU are going to get DIABETES (a terrible illness)

Figures
Figures
September 25, 2024 3:57 pm

Kneel, I appreciate your thoughts but as I keep alluding to, the key is epistemology.

Some forms of medicine are systematically sound, others are systematically terrible.

It’s all to do with epistemology. How are some views in medicine formed compared to others? Now, I submit that it is pretty much all by accident because there has basically never been any kind of useful philosophy of medicine – although Ryke Hamer and Stefan Lanka have touched on it. Nonetheless, even if it’s by accident, some forms of medicine have sound epistemological groundings compared to others.

In emergency medicine, it’s pretty easy to determine if you have stumbled upon a useful intervention because it’s unlikely the guy hemorrhaging heavily from multiple gunshot wounds would have survived if you just patted him on the head and said “good luck”. The surgeon can personally observe the efficacy of their intervention.

But how does that apply to disease? The assumption is that all cancer patients will die sans intervention. So if there is intervention and the person survives we believe that the intervention must have been responsible. The problem is that the assumption is wrong. People absolutely can spontaneously recover from cancer – nobody ever bothers to quantify it though because it would destroy all of oncology. According to doctors it must be very very rare (but they admit it occurs) but, like I said, they won’t quantify it so it could be anything from 1 per cent to 99 per cent of cases. For all we know, every second person right now has cancer cells in them and we just don’t know. They never go very far and never lead to death until they have some symptoms for a time and so decide to get checked out and then get given a horrendous prognosis and told their best option is to take highly toxic drugs.

For polio or smallpox or measles this problem is the same. Indeed, with vaccines, not only are we looking at people’s survival rates we are also looking at the possibility that they will get the disease in the first place. The link between the intervention and the result is impossible for anybody to personally observe and can only be done on a massive population basis using epidemiological data which is completely worthless (for reasons I have covered).

So how does the epistemological framework underpinning emergency medicine apply to vaccines? Clearly it doesn’t. They have absolutely nothing to do with each other. Nobody would bother doing a random double blind placebo trial on the efficacy of sewing up gunshot wounds. But these same trials are lauded as the height of scientific endeavour for vaccines. The doctor giving the vaccines cannot personally observe the efficacy of the vaccines. They have a massive bias towards them, but no actual useful observations to rely on. When it comes to vaccines, doctors are literally the last people on earth to provide a useful opinion. You would get more useful analysis if you took a survey of parents asking them if their own children were beautiful.

Tldr: if a phenomena can be personally observed, then it is unlikely to be open to systematic flaws. It can still be wrong, but the errors tend to get corrected. If it can only be seen using statistics then there is often no correction and instead just institutionalisation of the error (particularly if the error is lucrative).

This is why there has never been systematic errors in engineering philosophies but we have them all the time in economics and (disease based) medicine.

Kneel
Kneel
September 25, 2024 3:59 pm

“But the astonishing failure of the medical profession in general – in particular the retirees, since the practising medicos were compromised – is something I will never forget. “

If your own doctor is any good, then they would have told you during COVID that it may not have been of value for you to take the vax, and/or that it was not actually fully tested and so on, but that they had no valid reason under the law to provide you with an exemption. And further that if they did a “dodgy” for you and got found out, they would lose their license and livelyhood, so basically “Sorry, I don’t think you need it but I can’t get you out of it.”
That’s what mine told me.
That’s why I trust him.
That’s why I don’t want him to go out of business.
He put the blame squarely where it belongs – on the politicians.
Grubs, Vicki, absolute grubs that broke their own rules to try and save their own jobs, with no regard to the lives or rights of those they say they represent.
Never forgive, never forget.

cohenite
September 25, 2024 4:12 pm
Kneel
Kneel
September 25, 2024 4:17 pm

“This is why there has never been systematic errors in engineering philosophies but we have them all the time in economics and (disease based) medicine.”

I disagree.

In engineering, systems are normally deterministic and tests that endanger no-ones life or livelyhood can be run as many times as required to obtain the data needed to correctly predict the system response (eg Does the building collapse in force 7 gale winds?)

For econmics and even more so for medicine, the system is not deterministic at the current level of understanding (if ever), and we cannot exactly duplicate all conditions and vary only one thing at a time because the complexity of the systems involved is so large and/or it is unethical to do so.
In such situations then, collecting data and performing a statistical analysis that at least gives an indication of correctness (or not) is the best we can do.
If you believe we can do better while maintaining all ethical constraints, then by all means propose how. If you know of ways to improve such systems, tell us all how.
If, as I suspect, you do not have such improvements available, then STFU about how “bad” these things are – they are as good as we can make them and as you have no solutions, complaining about it adds nothing of value.

John H.
John H.
September 25, 2024 4:21 pm

It is my experience that very very few GPs keep abreast of research that is readily available in journals.

How many people read the methods section or the sample selection of a paper? How many people ask for the primary data? How many people check references to be sure they are accurate? How many are aware of Ioannidis and others which point to a huge error rate? The reasons for that are complicated. One issue. Pleiotropy: epistemic nightmare, can’t be modeled.

There are at least 3 major publishing houses I typically won’t bother reading because the journals are littered with bad studies. Most people don’t even get that far in their analysis.

It is impossible to keep abreast of the current research. There is so much published and a critical analysis of a paper can be so time intensive that expecting GPs to be informed across many different areas of medicine is unrealistic. No-one can do that.

Rosie
Rosie
September 25, 2024 4:26 pm

After 11 months and 8000 rockets Hezbollah are now ‘warning Israelis to move out of a ‘red zone’ part of that red zone is the west bank, where are these people supposed to evacuate to?

Eyrie
Eyrie
September 25, 2024 4:30 pm

I reckon we are somewhere between 8 and 18 on the Kahn scale.

Vicki
Vicki
September 25, 2024 4:31 pm

If your own doctor is any good, then they would have told you during COVID that it may not have been of value for you to take the vax, and/or that it was not actually fully tested and so on, but that they had no valid reason under the law to provide you with an exemption.

I didn’t seek advice from the surgery I have attended for decades. Husband went early in the pandemic for another issue & was startled to see the surgery fitted out with every sort of barrier & the physician in virtual operation garb. Said it all – as well as frequent communications about getting the jab (nothing that I can recall about precautionary info).

We had already decided against the novel “vaccines” when someone known to our family died within 24 hours of receiving AZ. She was the first (& was one of very few) who was acknowledged by the government as having died as a result of the vax.

Our decision was reinforced when, months later, we met a prominent (& retired) pharmacologist of 40 years experience who absolutely advised against being vaccinated. He and his wife have subsequently become good friends and his advice proved invaluable. Before retiring he operated a medical consultancy which conducted clinical trials of new drugs for the TGA. He told me what I had already discovered in my own research – that vaccines, and indeed all new drugs – were subject to years of research and trials before release on to the market. He could hardly believe that a vaccine which was developed to use nanotechnology to affect a genetic response could be released with so confidently. I figured we were talking about a Trojan Horse containing soldiers with unknown weaponry and intentions. The rest is history.

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Rosie
Rosie
September 25, 2024 4:47 pm

“Big threats on my life by Iran. The entire U.S. Military is watching and waiting. Moves were already made by Iran that didn’t work out, but they will try again. Not a good situation for anyone. I am surrounded by more men, guns, and weapons than I have ever seen before. Thank you to Congress for unanimously approving far more money to Secret Service – Zero “NO” Votes, strictly bipartisan. Nice to see Republicans and Democrats get together on something. An attack on a former President is a Death Wish for the attacker!”
https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1838802596066209994?t=uT5-e1CPJU3VZku36lNdxw&s=19

Roger
Roger
September 25, 2024 5:02 pm

…although there are basic premises on which modern medicine operates successfully, there are also areas in which research has overturned previous assumptions (think cardio). It is my experience that very very few GPs keep abreast of research that is readily available in journals. 

The Kuhnian paradigm shift in operation.

Re GPs, however much they read the literature and attempt to keep up with developments, they’re now effectively muzzled in regard to speaking and constrained in regard to acting by the government’s health bureaucracy, which now decides what science is approved and what is not.

When one considers that bureaucracy’s [plural if we include state health departments] performance during covid, one can see just how potentially dangerous this is.

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