Open Thread – Mon 30 Sept 2024


Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, Viktor Vasnetsov, 1887

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Rabz
October 2, 2024 1:04 pm

Vance hammering the appalling economic record of geriatric joe and the cackling kamel.

Meanwhile – “WW, why did you claim to be in Tiananmen Square when the CCP didn’t massacre a whole bunch of reactionary students?”

WW: Well, I’m a knucklehead who grew up in a small rural town …”

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Arky
October 2, 2024 1:15 pm

I think the winner of that debate was four more years of inflation and higher interest rates.

Rabz
October 2, 2024 1:18 pm

the winner of that debate was four more years of inflation and higher interest rates

Not to mention a whole bunch of butchered babies. Winners. Every single one of them.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 2, 2024 1:20 pm

OK, that’s it.

I LOVE JD VANCE.

He’s the same age as my youngest son so the feeling is platonic, but he simply aced that debate against that old, tired and mediocre-level hack Walz, whom Hairy still says is not to be pitied because he is a nasty piece of work.

That Yale polish was showing beautifully and shining brightly for Vance as well the good things that he managed to convey. I could make critiques but I’m not going to do that. I think we saw a similar thing to a young JFK in action there – rising to the firmament. He knows how to deal with the elites as well as coming across as an ordinary man doing extraordinary things.

Roger
Roger
October 2, 2024 1:29 pm

Albanese weighs into Qld election battle with savage LNP swipe and says he has ‘no doubt’ he’ll make campaign trip for Miles (Sky News, 2 Oct)

Albanese might want to focus on his home state, where federal Labor has just fallen to a historic low of 30% according to Newspoll, meaning they’re on track to lose at least 3-4 seats.

Rabz
October 2, 2024 1:34 pm

feral labore has just fallen to a historic low of 30% according to Newspoll, meaning they’re on track to lose at least 3-4 seats

Excellent news, although Sydney and Grayndler are likely to be snaffled by the greenfilth.

Rabz
October 2, 2024 1:36 pm

Uh oh, Vance doesn’t like economists. Can’t imagine why.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 2, 2024 1:36 pm

Indigenous Australians Minister Malarndirri McCarthy says Parliament ‘not ready for Makarrata”Dan Jervis-BardyThe West Australian
Wed, 2 October 2024 2:00AM

Plans for a Makarrata Commission to oversee Indigenous truth-telling and treaty making will not be revived before the next Federal election as Labor tries to avoid a re-run of the divisive Voice debate.
Minister for Indigenous Australians Malarndirri McCarthy admitted Federal Parliament was “not ready” to embrace the idea, blaming Opposition Leader Peter Dutton for politicising Makarrata and killing off any prospects of bi-partisan support.
Almost 12 months on from the Voice to Parliament’s resounding referendum defeat, Senator McCarthy said the Government needed to be “really cautious” about pursuing a policy that could be weaponised against Indigenous Australians.
“I think that the intent behind Makarrata is sincere with that call for truth-telling, but our Parliament is not ready for that,” she said, adding things could change depending on who was voted in at the next election.
A Makarrata Commission and a constitutionally enshrined Voice to Parliament were the two requests in the Uluru Statement from the Heart that Labor committed to deliver in full.
After losing the Voice referendum, Prime Minister Anthony Albanese was accused of walking away from the truth-telling body after only endorsing the principle of Makaratta — a Yolgnu word that means “coming together after a struggle” — during an interview at August’s Garma Festival.
In her first interview with The West since replacing Linda Burney in the porfolio, Senator McCarthy said while Labor still believed in Makarratta it was reluctant to pursue the proposal without the Opposition’s support.

Mr Dutton has ruled out creating a national treaty and truth-telling body if he wins the next Federal election, saying a Coalition government would spend the money on practical measures instead.
“I do value the fact that the principle of voice, treaty, truth is still very strong. You know, we do believe in that,” Senator McCarthy said.
“But we also accept the political reality that if you’re going to weaponise Indigenous Affairs to the extent that we saw through the referendum, we have to be very careful as to how we progress forward and to ensure that we can try and get bipartisanship.
“We have to be really cautious progressing that path and enabling that kind of weaponisation again towards First Nations people.”
Senator McCarthy last month toured Banksia Hill Detention Centre just days after the death of a 17-year-old inside the troubled facility — the second death in WA’s youth justice system in 10 months.
After talks with Aboriginal legal groups and new WA Corrective Services Commissioner Brad Royce, she said everyone agreed there “was an issue that had to be dealt with”.
“What I didn’t hear was universal agreement on how that would happen,” she added.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 2, 2024 1:40 pm

And the memes are already happening! The WIP should be excellent, although the way things are going maybe a midweek WIP could be in the pipeline.

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
October 2, 2024 1:45 pm

Dissappointed in Vance.
He didn’t seem to get the fundamental fact that the moderators would never put hard questions to Vance, and so he should have been ready to.
The moderators would never fact-check Walz- he should have, with chips.
In short, the Blob framed the debate. And won.
Note i listened sporadically on headphones while working.

Rabz
October 2, 2024 1:49 pm

Brilliant – almost thought I hadn’t heard WW say this: “I’ve become friends with school shooters”.

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Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
October 2, 2024 1:56 pm

The abortion debate in the USA has become incredibly dishonest – although credible in the current climate that it goes down this path.
They always want to quote an individual who was denied an abortion in her state, and had to travel to get it, or had something awful happen because she couldn’t.
If states can’t legislate on this matter, why have states? Each has its own governor, each has its own legislature, its own police force.If you don’t like your state you can move. If you can’t get an abortion there you can travel to another place, it’s not that expensive. People move all the time, like from NY to Florida, California to Florida, Blue State to Red state.
A woman’s ability to “control her own body” isn’t just about abortion.

Rabz
October 2, 2024 2:01 pm

The abortion debate in the USA has become incredibly dishonest

Yep, there is no “constitutional right to abortion” you loathsome ghouls.

Vicki
Vicki
October 2, 2024 2:04 pm

Haven’t yet read what other Cats are saying about the debate. Watched it pretty much in entirety, unfortunately interrupted by a neighbouring farmer who sat down to watch it with us & yabbered on and kept diverting from the debate!

Anyway, watched enough for a verdict.

Walz seemed to us like a used car salesman. Very pressured in his “sell”. Tried to look believable, but like many car salesmen – tried too hard. And he became increasingly rattled as it was clear that Vance was giving a peak performance.

Husband just said that Sky is saying it was a “master class” from JD. I agree. That military background, combined with legal training, ensured a really measured & calm performance. JD came across as a genuine, family man who loves his country, and is also exceptionally talented. Personally, I would put my life in his hands in an emergency.

I did like the agreement both men reached on certain points. Very civilised. Walz actually performed better than I expected, but, for the reasons above, I would not trust him with anything of importance to me.

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
October 2, 2024 2:08 pm

Lizzie, in a convoluted inversion, i think i’m like the radio audience who gave the debate to Nixon, whereas you’re the TV watchers who liked Kennedy.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 2, 2024 2:14 pm

A fantastic contribution from Cleetus and all the private helicopter pilots that helped with the relief efforts …and still are. They all dipped into their into their own pockets to get there.

People are now raising money for food and fuel costs.

Top stuff. Check it out.

——

Cleetus McFarland:

We took Consuela home, but went right back to where we got her to run some missions. She ran good, helped people out, and we made it home safely. Not the video I ever thought it would be… wild.

Taking Our Helicopter Into North Carolina’s Disaster

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 2, 2024 2:38 pm

Apparently looters are running amok in North Carolina. Shoot the bastards.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 2, 2024 2:43 pm

…….They all dipped into their own pockets to get there.

Cassie of Sydney
October 2, 2024 2:51 pm

This is why I want Dutton to win…

Peter Dutton has made a pre-election pledge to “turn the tide of anti-Semitism” in Australia, portraying himself as a leader with “moral clarity and courage” who can restore social cohesion.

The Opposition Leader made the pitch months out from the federal election, which is due by May, declaring the Coalition “will not waver” in its support for Israel and Australians of Jewish faith.

“Since October 7, I’ve attended vigils and synagogue services. I’ve delivered speeches and written columns. I travelled to Israel where I spoke with survivors and the families of hostages; I visited a kibbutz and the site of the Nova music festival where innocent people were butchered; I watched footage of Hamas’s atrocities; and I met with Israel’s President Isaac Herzog, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Foreign Minister Israel Katz,” Mr Dutton said in his new year message to Jewish Australians. 

“I’ve done these things to show that I and the Coalition stand with our ally Israel and with Australians of Jewish faith. And we will not waver. In Australia, anti-Semitism is not only a threat to one segment of our community. It’s a threat to our social cohesion, to our democratic values, and to our way of life.

And remember, first they come for the Saturday people and then they come for the Sunday people.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 2, 2024 2:53 pm

Apparently looters are running amok in North Carolina.

Special persons of no describable description who have been unlucky in life with a desperate need for stuff.

Report: 8 Migrants Arrested for Looting in Flood-Ravaged Tennessee After Hurricane Helene (1 Oct)
Nothing to see here, move along.

bons
bons
October 2, 2024 3:34 pm

Something doesn’t add up in southern Lebanon and Gaza.

This is the most heavily surveiled land on the planet.

How then were they able to dig and fit out enormous tunnel complexes and high tech systems without being detected?

It is not just a question of how they hid the massive quantities of spoil. These things aren’t dug with a garden trowel, they require sophisticated equipment that is large, specialised and, you would imagine, be traceable from source.

Yet, the Israelis were not aware of their location.

These are the people who knew what phone number to call to blow up pagers.

It is strange.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 2, 2024 3:46 pm

Toad , you have made Sir Waffle worth the turd, kbg, omgisfg, diligaf esq. Very sad.
The imminent potential greatness of Florence will be revealed at the appropriate time.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 2, 2024 3:52 pm

I’m thinking good limestone tunneling in S Lebanon.

Rabz
October 2, 2024 3:52 pm

Boring machines like Flo Turnbuckle are what make this country grate.

Rosie
Rosie
October 2, 2024 3:54 pm
Rosie
Rosie
October 2, 2024 3:56 pm
Rosie
Rosie
October 2, 2024 4:01 pm
Rosie
Rosie
October 2, 2024 4:06 pm
Rosie
Rosie
October 2, 2024 4:16 pm

“During dozens of operations spanning approximately 200 nights of raids, the IDF entered Hezbollah positions along the border with Lebanon, including underground infrastructure, up to 3 kilometers (less than 2 miles) from the border”
Israel did know and have been dismantling them for the last year.
https://allisrael.com/revealed-idf-destroyed-700-hezbollah-targets-including-tunnels-in-commando-raids-over-the-past-year

Indolent
Indolent
October 2, 2024 4:18 pm

Is there a problem with X? The images don’t seem to be loading normally.

Indolent
Indolent
October 2, 2024 4:18 pm

@KimWexlerMAJD

During the Trump years, Antony Blinken didn’t just work at WestExec. He also worked for the Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement, doing policy work that would eventually put the Biden State Department’s Refugee Admissions Program on steroids.

Indolent
Indolent
October 2, 2024 4:19 pm

@shellenberger

It may seem like what’s happening in Brazil has nothing to do with us, but it does. Brazil is a test case for the kind of censorship Kamala Harris wants to impose in the U.S. How do we know? Because we’ve caught her and Biden funding it.

Indolent
Indolent
October 2, 2024 4:22 pm
Barking Toad
Barking Toad
October 2, 2024 4:46 pm

The Israel response to the Iran attack ….from the Oz

If there were ever cause to target Iran’s nuclear facilities, this is it. Iran has shown that it might well use a bomb if it’s acquired, and Tehran would certainly use it as deterrent cover for conventional and terrorist attacks on Israel, Sunni Arab states and perhaps the U.S. Iran is closer than ever to a nuclear weapon and won’t stop itself. The question for American and Israeli leaders is: If not now, when?

Iran’s revolutionary regime has shown itself again to be a regional and global menace. It started this war via Hamas, which it funds, arms and trains to carry out massacres like the one on Oct. 7, and it escalated via Hezbollah, spreading war to Lebanon. Other proxies destabilise Iraq and Yemen, fire on Israeli and U.S. troops and block global shipping. It sends drones and missiles to Russia and rains ballistic missiles on Israel. All while seeking nukes.

Escalating this confrontation now is a gamble for Iran. With Hamas depleted and Hezbollah in disarray, Iran’s proxies can’t defend it the way they usually would. Ayatollah Ali Khamenei may be betting that Mr. Biden will shrink again from defending the civilised world from a dangerous regime. Will he be right?
The Wall St Journal

Interesting days ahead. Let’s see how the Sleaze and Pong handle this.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 2, 2024 4:47 pm

Moment loved-up newlyweds ‘forced to move their first dance into underground shelter in Jerusalem’ as Iran’s missiles rained down on Israel
Daily Mail.

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 2, 2024 5:03 pm

A 19 year old is a “teen”!

A teen has been charged with displaying a terrorist organisation’s symbol after she allegedly marched with a Hezbollah flag around her shoulders at a protest in Sydney’s CBD over the weekend.

Police launched a public appeal on Wednesday to identify a woman depicted at a pro-Palestine and Hezbollah protest in the city’s centre on Sunday as part of an investigation into alleged displays of prohibited symbols.

Just hours later, Sarah Mouhanna handed herself in at Kogarah police station, where she was arrested for questioning.

The 19-year-old woman has now been charged with causing a public display of a prohibited terrorist organisation symbol after police allege she had a yellow Hezbollah flag wrapped around her shoulders while marching with protesters.

Hezbollah, which traditionally represents the Lebanese Shia community, has seats in Lebanon’s parliament and has political, social and military components.

Daily Tele

Vicki
Vicki
October 2, 2024 5:08 pm

Military strategist Edward Luttwak reckons that, rather than attack Iran’s nuclear facilities, Israel should bomb their port facilities from where they ship the product they completely depend upon – oil.

https://unherd.com/2024/10/israel-should-hit-iran-where-it-hurts/

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 2, 2024 5:10 pm

As I go about my business, I’ve been following the UK reporting of events in the ME.

Aside from direct reporting of the missile strikes on Israel there has been the usual media strategic commentary, ranging from people with some inside knowledge to embarrassing twaddle from ‘Our ME Correspondent’.

Interestingly, there is an increasing focus on the long-term regional destabilisation strategy of the loathsome Iranian regime. And the public comments from government talking heads are starting to reflect this tone. So, presumably, the US Administration is pondering some sort of response that Team Starmer is going to have to sell.

Also interestingly, there is no commentary whatever about the abject failure of the UN in its implementation of Resolution 1701. Lots of anguished UN hand-wringing, but zero reflection on nearly 20 years of shuffling inaction while Tehran and Hezbollah gives the international community the forks.

(Yes, Wikipedia as reference. But this is a reasonable recount of events.)

Vicki
Vicki
October 2, 2024 5:10 pm

Me? I’d wipe out their nuclear facilities ….like yesterday.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
October 2, 2024 5:18 pm

Afternoon all.

Tragic bus fire in Bangkok yesterday.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13914035/Tragedy-bodies-20-schoolchildren-three-teachers-bus-erupted-flames-Thailand.html

What I’ve been told through a Thai living in Oz. Bus run off compressed methane that isn’t liquified, I’ve seen these set ups on normally lorries in that part of the world but never a passenger bus. Anything to do with methane between 5 & 20% is explosive, one spark and the poor kids would never have had a chance.

Apparently though the bus was signed off to run off 3 tanks, there were 6 on board one behind the driver and 2 more in the cargo bins as well as the approved fuel cylinders.

Thai vehicles have to get an annual inspection but the process is fraught with corruption especially in rural regions like Isan. The bus did have a recent check and was signed off on.

I’d say the inspecting authority, bus owner and even the driver will be looking at jail time. Driver didn’t help himself by running away, apparently has gone down like a lead balloon in Thailand.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
October 2, 2024 5:31 pm

“And remember, first they come for the Saturday people and then they come for the Sunday people”

I am not religious so should be OK then. Right ?

Oh wait, how will the scumbag religion of peace people know I not religious? I am white but am considering identifying as camouflage in order to escape the bad guys when they come for the weekend people.

Seriously though am with the Jews and Israel all the way as this is a defining time in history.

Pogria
Pogria
October 2, 2024 5:34 pm

“Aussie”, mum and her four sprogs, crying for the Oz Government to bring them home from Beirut.
Absolutely no sympathy in the comments. Boo Yah.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13914643/Aussie-mum-four-kids-Lebanon.html

Rosie
Rosie
October 2, 2024 5:56 pm
bons
bons
October 2, 2024 5:56 pm

And in glouriously stupid news;

Albanese announced that he would be going to QLD to ‘help and support’ Labor’s campaign.

The lack of self awareness is eye watering. He obviously believes that he still has influence and credibility – in QLD!!!

Roger
Roger
October 2, 2024 6:00 pm

Is there a problem with X? The images don’t seem to be loading normally.

Roughly a quarter of the time I find the posts don’t load at all, even after pressing retry.

calli
calli
October 2, 2024 6:09 pm

Good. Credlin is onto it. Two tier policing.

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Pogria
Pogria
October 2, 2024 6:16 pm

Saw the front page of the Australian. It has labelled sleazy as White Flag Albo.
Minor correction, it should be “White Feather Albo”.
Everywhere he goes from now on, he should be thrown white feathers.

Roger
Roger
October 2, 2024 6:21 pm

Albanese announced that he would be going to QLD to ‘help and support’ Labor’s campaign.

Meanwhile…

Newspoll: Federal Labor hits historic low of 30% in NSW.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
October 2, 2024 6:39 pm

Some moderate rain 30 Km SE to Barcy.
It’s going to pass us by, but some other lucky bugger will get it.

cohenite
October 2, 2024 6:39 pm

I’ve done this too. Collon Noir, gun expert extraordinaire, takes 2 anti gun fluffies out to the range and changes their little minds completely about guns:

Taking An Anti-Gun New Yorker & Brit Shooting For The First Time (youtube.com)

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
October 2, 2024 6:46 pm

Barking Toad  October 2, 2024 4:46 pm

Escalating this confrontation now is a gamble for Iran. With Hamas depleted and Hezbollah in disarray, Iran’s proxies can’t defend it the way they usually would. Ayatollah Ali Khamenei may be betting that Mr. Biden will shrink again from defending the civilised world from a dangerous regime. Will he be right?

This one bomb isn’t the worst case scenario.
That belongs to the scenario where Iran makes 6 nukes and tells the West they have secreted them in the major cities of the Infidels.
I think the scum we have in charge of Christendom will fold and let Iran and Pakistan dictate terms to us that will make Genghis Khan look like a nice guy.

JC
JC
October 2, 2024 7:02 pm

They keep finding oil.

Barron’s

Guyana has the fastest-growing economy in the world because of massive offshore oil fields being developed by Exxon Mobil. Now its next-door neighbor Suriname could be on the verge of a burst of economic growth after two oil producers announced a $10.5 billion investment on Tuesday in oil and gas production there.

French energy giant TotalEnergies is the operator on the project, in a partnership with Houston oil company APA. Staatsolie, Suriname’s national oil company, is also eligible to take a 20% stake.

First production should come by 2028, and TotalEnergies expects the project to pump out 220,000 barrels of oil a day. That’s not in the league of Guyana. The Guyana project could eventually produce 2 million barrels a day, up from over 600,000 today, some analysts say.

2 million barrels represents around 2% of the world’s daily consumption.

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Black Ball
Black Ball
October 2, 2024 7:06 pm

SBS has something good to watch.
A recreational version of the Hoover Dam.
It remains the most audacious project.

JC
JC
October 2, 2024 7:07 pm

In that scenario, why wouldn’t Iran return the favour and target their port, energy, nuclear, or other countervalue targets?

They did this time and were incredibly unsuccessful.

JC
JC
October 2, 2024 7:17 pm

Dover

Can I be honest with you, as opposed to dishonest. Towel heads are absolutely fcking useless in warring. The only thing they appear to be good at is murdering defenseless civilians.

Iran may end up having a mullahless government in the not too distant future. I’m not suggesting it’s odds on, but it’s probably at 30%.

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Pogria
Pogria
October 2, 2024 7:35 pm

I don’t mind Garth Hamilton, BUT, he keeps saying WE, are not standing with Israel.
WE ARE, standing with Israel.
The Labor Government are NOT standing with Israel.

cohenite
October 2, 2024 7:39 pm

Gawd blot is frustrating: Rowan Dean saying the fuking obvious that iran should be bombed to glass and blot starts tut tutting, won’t someone please think about the (iranian) kids who will be destroyed along with the fat mullahs.

Then the palli protests: Dean sensibly says they are not free speech but just intimidation and criminal. Blots starts tut tutting again about slippery slopes. It’s frustrating because the arrogant twot is right about a lot but he has these utter brain farts and seems to misunderstand the issues completely. The tragedy is he is the best on Sky (apart from Dean) which is the best of the Australian media cretins.

John H.
John H.
October 2, 2024 7:53 pm

JC

 October 2, 2024 7:02 pm

They keep finding oil.

Just a drop in the ocean compared to this:

Russia’s Oil Exploration in Antarctica threatens Science Diplomacy (forbes.com)

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 2, 2024 7:54 pm

Heh, Darwin Award.

Palestinian killed by own weapon during Tulkarm Camp celebration of Iranian attack (JPost, 2 Oct)

An 18-year-old Palestinian was reportedly killed by the explosion of his own weapon barrel during the celebrations that took place on Tuesday night in the Tulkarm Camp West Bank refugee camp, Army Radio reported on Wednesday.

The celebrations came after Iran launched its attack on Israel, sending approximately 180 missiles throughout the country.

I don’t think he’s getting his 72 virgins for that. Do try to clean, oil and maintain your firearms Pali kiddies.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
October 2, 2024 7:58 pm

Toying with the idea of watching the VP debate in full… I only heard slices of it, disjointed-
Was there a Moment?
like, an “Ask yourself this” moment?
A “There you go again”? moment?
“You’d be in jail”?
I really don’t know what he said at the end of that sentence. I don’t think he knows what he said either”?
A definitive zinger that might have gained Trump-Vance some votes?
I don’t think so, which is why I reckon it’s a dead rubber, ie a terribly lost opportunity for a smart young bloke to absolutely tear strips off a compromised, mendacious and malevolent opponent.
There was notably no “Moment” in Trump debating Harris neither.
I want a rematch! Death or Glory, no more of this anodyne safety vest NPC routine!

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
October 2, 2024 8:01 pm

Ean Higgins deemed brown bread.
https://www.skynews.com.au/business/media/veteran-australian-journalist-and-mh370-author-ean-higgins-confirmed-to-have-died-in-2020-nsw-coroners-court-finds/news-story/96f5861bd80aa5d8519e2210399f779a

‘Relentless in the pursuit of the truth’: Veteran Australian journalist and MH370 author Ean Higgins remembered after NSW Coroner’s Court ruling

Prominent Australian journalist and MH370 author Ean Higgins, who has been a missing person for several years, is confirmed to have died in 2020, a coronial inquest has heard.

Ripe for conspiracy theory. Did he correctly figure out who was to blame and then get extorted or killed? There’s just not enough info in the news report to say. No cause of death given.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
October 2, 2024 8:05 pm

Did Miriam Corowa (ABC) call her Managing Director David Anderson a “bungee waller”? I thought that was a New Zealand bridge jumper.

cohenite
October 2, 2024 8:06 pm

Just watched JD shred tampon tim’s balls. Tampon is weird: he looks terminally insecure which possibly explains his stolen valour, done to prop up his image; otherwise he appears to be a typical commie sociopath with all sorts of compensatory mental spasms going on.

But for me the takeaway was the smug kunts officiating. They did their best to aid and abet tampon’s attacks on JD, which he swatted away. If Trump wins we should go through the legacy media with a dose of salts beginning with banning any government advertising on them. Then beef up the FCC’s regulatory powers by giving it a fact checking power with real teeth.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
October 2, 2024 8:06 pm

Justin Smith is useless and a waste of time on Chris Kenny’s show just as Jessica Tarlov is useless and a waste of time on Fox’s The Five.

JC
JC
October 2, 2024 8:14 pm

They fired 200 ballistics. No drones or cruise missiles this time. 181 reached Israel. So the failure rate is very low. Israeli and US AD couldn’t stop dozens of arrivals.

Approximately 20 got through the defensive perimeter.

They actually fired closer to 200.
19 were lost and 160 blown up in the sky.
Their success rate is 10%, which means their failure rate is 90%. I guess for a Mideast regime, 10% success rate is considered, pretty, pretty good.

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JC
JC
October 2, 2024 8:28 pm

No they didn’t, and no, they weren’t. How ‘successful’ they were we are in no position to determine atm. Next few days will clarify.

Huh huh.

dover0beach

October 2, 2024 8:00 pm

Reply to  Roger

They fired 200 ballistics. No drones or cruise missiles this time. 181 reached Israel. So the failure rate is very low. Israeli and US AD couldn’t stop dozens of arrivals.

Didn’t you break your own rule?

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John H.
John H.
October 2, 2024 8:29 pm

JC

 October 2, 2024 8:14 pm

They fired 200 ballistics. No drones or cruise missiles this time. 181 reached Israel. So the failure rate is very low. Israeli and US AD couldn’t stop dozens of arrivals.

Approximately 20 got through the defensive perimeter.

They actually fired closer to 200.

19 were lost and 160 blown up in the sky.

Their success rate is 10%, which means their failure rate is 90%. I guess for a Mideast regime, 10% success rate is considered, pretty, pretty good.

That is how missile attacks should be conducted. When I saw the Hezbollah attacks I was surprised that they appeared to be only firing 10-12 at a time. Iran did it correctly, saturation attacks with the aim of overwhelming defenses. No-one expects the majority of missiles to strike heavily defended targets.

The problem for Israel and the USN is anti-missile missiles are very expensive. Iran can keep lobbing cheap stuff at Israel and unless they can maintain continual fighter patrols to use cheaper air to air aircraft missiles for interception they will run out of missiles and the costs will be enormous.

JC
JC
October 2, 2024 8:33 pm

Iran can keep lobbing cheap stuff at Israel and unless they can maintain continual fighter patrols to use cheaper air to air aircraft missiles for interception they will run out of missiles and the costs will be enormous.

Sure, but that assumes Iran will continue as a functioning state.

Rosie
Rosie
October 2, 2024 8:34 pm

Let’s hope Israel decides to do something other than allow Iran the right to one way traffic.

JC
JC
October 2, 2024 8:41 pm

Here’s how I see it:
You’ve got Iran, the Hez and the missile-loving dancing Tootsies taking shots at Israel. Their game is not just to wreck Israel’s military and civilian setup, but to stack up as many dead Jews as they can.
Meanwhile, if Iran’s hell-bent on going nuclear, Israel may have to make a move soon. Otherwise, they’re staring down the barrel at their own annihilation.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 2, 2024 8:45 pm

Flee little Hezbies, flee.

IDF expands Lebanon ground invasion, rockets target Israel’s North (JPost live, 2 Oct)

Haha:

Israel bars UN secretary general from entering country (JPost, 2 Oct)

Go back to fighting climate change, dickhead.

John H.
John H.
October 2, 2024 8:52 pm

JC

 October 2, 2024 8:33 pm

Iran can keep lobbing cheap stuff at Israel and unless they can maintain continual fighter patrols to use cheaper air to air aircraft missiles for interception they will run out of missiles and the costs will be enormous.

Sure, but that assumes Iran will continue as a functioning state.

Iran has the same problem. It will also run out of missiles. It might even have to stop selling missiles to Russia. Iran won’t collapse through invasion, a nightmare scenario for anyone contemplating that. Rot it from within, cripple the economy, kill the religious leaders. It has huge underground storage facilities and no amount of missile or airborne attacks can damage that. I can’t see Iran collapsing. Wars are not won from the air alone. Despite years of ground attacks by the Saudis using highly capable ground attack fighters Yemen remains functional as a military force.

JC
JC
October 2, 2024 8:59 pm

How ‘successful’ they were we are in no position to determine atm. Next few days will clarify.

They fired 200 ballistics. No drones or cruise missiles this time. 181 reached Israel. So the failure rate is very low. Israeli and US AD couldn’t stop dozens of arrivals.

JC
JC
October 2, 2024 9:02 pm

John H

I hope it doesn’t happen praying it won’t get that far. If Israel considers its fate is existential, what choice do they have but use nuclear weapons?

Rosie
Rosie
October 2, 2024 9:08 pm
John H.
John H.
October 2, 2024 9:18 pm

JC

 October 2, 2024 9:02 pm

John H

I hope it doesn’t happen praying it won’t get that far. If Israel considers its fate is existential, what choice do they have but use nuclear weapons?

It won’t fire first. If it has to retaliate though even nukes won’t take out the underground facilities. Israel will know if a nuke has been fired at it because even if the missile is destroyed in flight it will leave a radiation signature(?). We don’t know how many warheads Iran has but I suspect it is fewer than Israel and the odds of a nuke getting through the shield is very low. That leaves Iran with the prospect of having attempted a nuclear attack, failed, and dealing with the repercussions. That would also create a dilemma with their pals in the Kremlin and any country aligned with Iran.

People need to stop thinking that their enemies are stupid. Remember the “drug addled neo-Nazis” some fools were proclaiming?I don’t think Iran will go nuclear. They’re not stupid, even this attack demonstrates that. Poor aiming but the same is happening with Russian missiles in Ukraine and I vaguely recall that in the Gulf and Iraq Wars they kept quiet about how many Tomahawks went astray.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 2, 2024 9:25 pm

Anyway, “Sliante” to all you mob.

Mme Zulu has been on the internet – she informs me that there is the whisky lounge of a hotel in Edinburgh, Scotland, where you can sample very rare single malts for THREE HUNDRED POUNDS a session.

To certain of my family, expecting a sizeable inheritance, bad luck, your eccentric forebear blew the lot in his lifetime. Serves you right for voting Labor/Greens.

Rosie
Rosie
October 2, 2024 9:28 pm

“Pretty small crater for a ballistic missile”
Sorry to disappoint.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 2, 2024 9:42 pm

Damn your ban: October 7 rally organisers to ignore court ordersAlexi Demetriadi
3 hours ago.
Updated 1 hours ago

170 comments
Pro-Palestine organisers have vowed to go ahead with a protest and vigil regardless of a court bid by NSW Police Commissioner Karen Webb to block the events as political leaders from the major parties voiced support for banning rallies on the one-year anniversary of Hamas’ October 7 terror attacks.
The NSW Supreme Court on Thursday will hear the state police’s argument to stop the two events – and to deem both as “unauthorised” – which would be contested in the same court by the organisers, the Palestinian Action Group.
On Wednesday, the group said regardless of the court’s decision, Sunday’s rally and Monday’s vigil would go ahead.
PAG organiser Josh Lees said: “We will be protesting on Sunday regardless of any court outcome as we have done for 51 weeks, in opposition to the ongoing genocide in Gaza and the war on Lebanon.”

Don’t New South Wales coppers have tear gas and truncheons, any more?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 2, 2024 9:51 pm

Iran got a school they were aiming at.

Pretty small crater for a ballistic missile.

Looking the vision on early morning TV of some of the impacts, I was also struck by the modest craters. Being explosive, but not military minded, I wondered how many of these ballistic missiles Iran would have to launch to cause any significant damage.

Then I realised, it’s state terrorism, not really a military endeavour at all.

Rosie
Rosie
October 2, 2024 10:02 pm

“All of the missile impacts in Israeli airbases are deemed by the IDF as “ineffective,” meaning that no harm was caused to the continuous operations of the IAF.”
https://x.com/manniefabian/status/1841436923363017211?t=RbKnhHXVsmuCXqR9MtWAKw&s=19

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 2, 2024 10:05 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCgnbRWVvU8

In memory of the IMMORTAL Kris Kristofferson.

Helen
Helen
October 2, 2024 10:06 pm

A woman’s ability to “control her own body” isn’t just about abortion.

Funny, dat. A woman can control her own body to abort baby, but not resist the Health Czar’s Semashko direction to be vaccinated against her will.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
October 2, 2024 10:12 pm

You’re wasting your own, Zulu.
Take your 300 quid and stand the bar at the Ensign Ewart, Sandy Bell’s or- my favourite- the Sheep Heid. So old they’re not really sure when it established. Also, contains a sheep’s heid. And a skittle alley. Huge fun.
Or git outta E’burg and out west to the Old Forge.

Indolent
Indolent
October 2, 2024 10:26 pm
Indolent
Indolent
October 2, 2024 10:29 pm
Indolent
Indolent
October 2, 2024 10:30 pm
Indolent
Indolent
October 2, 2024 10:33 pm
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MatrixTransform
October 2, 2024 10:35 pm

Kristofferson and Cash … sunday morning coming down

Indolent
Indolent
October 2, 2024 10:40 pm
Rosie
Rosie
October 2, 2024 10:50 pm
Natural Instinct
Natural Instinct
October 2, 2024 11:33 pm

I wonder if our prime minister will be attending something like this …
….
President Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States of America, will participate in an October 7th Remembrance Event on Monday, October 7, 2024, at 6:00PM EDT. Jewish community leaders will gather to honor the 1,200 lives lost after being taken hostage and killed on that fateful morning one year ago. The event will also remember the victims of antisemitic violence that has continued to afflict communities worldwide since that tragic day

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
October 3, 2024 4:21 am

Shocking Video Footage of Kentucky Sheriff Gunning Down Judge Played in Court — Horrifying Moment Unfolds After Sheriff Sees ‘Something’ on Judge’s Cellphone

You may remember this from a couple of weeks ago – the Sherriff sees something on the Judges phone and shoots him several times in the Judges rooms.
There are comments to the effect that the Judge had been molesting the Sheriffs daughter and the Sherriff was convinced the Judge was trying to kidnap the child and mother. All this from evidence on the Judges phone which is now being examined forensically.
Hmmm. Murky.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
October 3, 2024 4:32 am

Grid Apocalypse Hits Carolinas: 360 Substations Down, Power Restoration Could Take “Months”

“Distribution transformers are a bedrock component of our energy infrastructure,” National Renewable Energy Laboratory researcher Killian McKenna said, who was recently quoted by PV Magazine

McKenna pointed out, “But utilities needing to add or replace them are currently facing high prices and long wait times due to supply chain shortages. This has the potential to affect energy accessibility, reliability, affordability—everything.”

Other reasons for the transformer shortages besides power grid upgrades include raw material sourcing problems, pandemic-related supply chain woes and backlogs, labor constraints, shipping issues, and geopolitical tensions. 

It appears the US is struggling to fix its system and the last 20 years of hollowing out the spares infrastructure is coming home to roost.
“How do you go bankrupt? Slowly at first then all in a rush.”.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
October 3, 2024 4:38 am

Posted on October 1, 2024 from PowerLine.
A Question Too Tough For KamalaTo be fair, pretty much every question is too tough for Kamala. But this one is a real softball:

WATCH Kamala Harris STRUGGLE to answer: “Should folks stand for the National Anthem?”

— Resist the Mainstream (@ResisttheMS) 

Of course. I rise for the anthem, I kneel before God, And I stand to piss.

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Winston Smith
Winston Smith
October 3, 2024 4:46 am

…aand a little something from the Babylon Bee:

 After Minnesota Governor and U.S. Vice Presidential candidate Tim Walz claimed he was friends with them in Tuesday night’s debate, school shooters across the nation were quick to distance themselves from “that total weirdo.”

A spokesperson for the National Association of School Shooters clarified that “we didn’t really know him all that well” and “our moms just made us hang out with him and invite him to our birthday parties sometimes.”

Just to let you all know that the Babylon Bee is a satirical site – and Tim Walz is a dickhead.
There.
I said it out loud.
🙂

Vicki
Vicki
October 3, 2024 7:14 am

I noticed that last night Cats were discussing whether Israel would attack Iran’s nuclear facilities. OS pundits are suggesting that Israel will more likely take out their port facilities which export their only serious product – oil.

bons
bons
October 3, 2024 8:31 am

I have been given an automatic vacuum by one of the daughters – sheesh.

It appears to get around ok, or it would if the bloody kelpie would stop trying to herd it and corral it into corners. When all else fails it jumps all over it trying to stop it.

As much as I think it to be hilarious, the dog will never give up so the machine is headed for the storage shed between daughter visits.

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 3, 2024 10:32 am

Stuff most people don’t know about Kris Kristofferson:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kris_Kristofferson

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